July 24, 2025 • 45 mins
The Dodgers salvaged a 2-4 record from their homestand against the Brewers and Twins but clearly still need bullpen help. What kind of targets are out there? As the starting staff gets healthy, could Dustin May be a trade chip to help improve the bullpen?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's go Fred Rogan Rodney Pete at a
five seventy LA Sports Big three hour program for US today.
Benny Bond Signor will jump on the show during the
one o'clock hour, and Net Coletti will be here during the.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Two o'clock hour.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Rodney, Well, the Dodgers have left, and they got out
of town alive. And after what happened yesterday, I said,
run for the plane as quickly as possible and go
before they take that one back. It was a very
interesting homestand they went to win four and if we're
to be completely honest, didn't look very good. But they
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did at least when yesterday, after the bullpen gave it up,
Freddy Freeman came up big, hit the ball, the Dodgers win, And.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
What can you say? What can you say when when
Freddy came up? Would you think when Mookie beat it
out and then they walked Reefe Freddy came up, did
you just feel like it was a rap or did
you feel like it's not going good for the Dodgers.
This is gonna be another one of those moments you
want the truth, Yes, I didn't feel like it was
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a rap. You didn't I wasn't sure that it would
go south, but I didn't think, well, this will finish
it right here. I thought something's gonna have to happen,
and that's kind of the way they've been playing lately.
Something has to happen.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And fortunately he hit it, Baterer made a play and
left couldn't make the play, and the Dodgers win, and
then though it looked like they had won the World Series, some.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
People were questioning, I'm just gonna talk baseball. People were
questioning batter in his play, like why did he go
for it like that, You've got runners at second and third,
you're up one. You either have to make the catch
or game two. You can't let it bounce in front
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of you. You gotta go for it if it bounces
it because it's two outs. Otani's running from second on
the hit of the on the on the on the
crack of the bat, so he's going to get a jump.
And I heard people tell me, oh, why did why
didn't he Why did he try to die for it?
Why did he try to go for it? Why didn't
he just let it bounce and try to throw him
out of the play. No chance, it's the only play,
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and you told that before the play starts, by your
defensive coaches and just in training in general, you got
to make that play. And and he and he attempted
it and came very close. But good thing for the Dodgers.
But no, I didn't. I felt it like old school.
I was like Freddy, Freddy lists for this moment, this
is this is good, We're good. And I knew they
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were in trouble. You know, it was good for you know,
for Mookie to do that, even if it wasn't infield
hit and he beat it out, but to get on
base to keep it going. And then they walk O Tani.
You're like, oh, why why didn't he just why did
they walk O Tani? You know, because he's a beast,
And he said, poor, straight five straight home runs. I
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get it. With the runner on first, they're gonna put it,
put the winning run on base. But it just happened
to be Otani. That's like a cardinal sent right. You
don't put the winning run on base unless it's Otani
or Barry Bonds. Well, when Barry Bonds was playing, Yeah,
they put him on walked in a run, yeah they did, Yes,
they did. Gave up a run. Yes, they did. We'll
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give up a run instead of four. How good is
Otani right now? Though? I mean he can look, he
can look. You know, sometimes he looks bad at the
plate where he gets fooled and he just off balance
and swinging that crazy stuff and he what kind of
swing was that? But he said, so many home runs
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with two strikes where you think, oh my god. He
takes that time out, he regroups and he goes in
there and he just okay, now I'm dialed in. I've
seen it all. Boom, it didn't matter. I mean two
days ago or two games ago, the guy came in
throwing one hundred and two and it's like, oh, he's
our guy. Boom, home run, two strikes, and then yesterday
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he did it again. I mean, it's just he's absolutely amazing,
amazing hitter.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Here's the thing about baseball, Rodney. Three weeks ago, people
were going, what's wrong with o Toddy? Yeah, what's wrong
with him? He's not hitting the ball. He doesn't look
good up there, But that's baseball. It's ebbs and flows.
What I like when he steps out of the batter's
box and he asks for time. He always does in
such a polite way, kind of nods his head, smiles,
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asked for time, always very polite, just gonna have a second.
Sure he can get back in there, There goes, there goes.
But as for walking him and getting to Freddie and
you thinking, oh, well now this is done, we're in
good shape.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I will say I was worried when, you know, because
Ruiz came in for Tiascar and yeah he hit the
home run the other day, its first one. But you're like,
but he drew the walk, so I was good. But
Treddy came up out, Yeah it was good. I when
when yeah, when Treddy came up, I was like, okay,
this's gonna get done. Yeah, well let me put it
like this. A half step more and it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Wouldn't have got done by badern was a half step
wasn't like it was just cut and dry and we're
gonna walk on of here. I have step more. And
I got to tell you I thought he made a
good play on the ball. I mean, he did what
he had to do. He went for it, and he
gave him really close. Yeah, I half step more and
it's a different story. Yeah, And then you have.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
To ask away one in five right at two and four.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, and you ask yourself a half step more and
it would have been over. But they gave up the lead. Yeah,
And it's like, God, it's not like that was a
win where you go, that was great, that was.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
A win where you oh, you said this the other day,
you said this the other day. It's now the opposite.
Because early in the season, when they started the season
they got behind, it was like, no problem, they're down two,
down three, down four, whatever, it is no problem. They're
coming back now, especially against that series against Milwaukee, right
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they took the lead several times in that series, and
you're thinking at this moment, you're like, we're up three.
That's not good enough. That's not good enough. Here they come,
they're gonna tie it up or take the lead. And
that's the feeling of it right now, which you say
ebbs and flows in baseball. It's weird how you feel
a certain way at a different part of the same season.
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You know, where you felt that no lead was safe
for the other team. The Dodgers were going to find
a way to win. Now it's it didn't matter if
the Dodgers are up three or four because of the
way the bullpen and the pitching is gone. It's a
crapshoot if they're going to pull it out and stay ahead.
But I will say, good, good looking Tyler Glass. Now
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he looked great. He looked fantastic. He added all work
and when you have twelve strikeouts, went seven innings, he
was fantastic. He was fantastic. And hopefully that continues. And
it was happy to see after the game he said
he felt good and he still feels good. Because that's
the question.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
That's the only thing that matters, you know, can you
believe you're a point with him? Okay, nice, nice game tonight, boy,
you were really on at Thanks.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
How are you feeling? Yeah? Can you imagine that's the
question every time? How are you feeling? Yeah? You feel
all right?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Could you imagine if you walked into work every morning
somebody walked up to you and you said, hey, Bill,
how are you doing? How you feeling? How are you
all right? That's he's gonna get that every game.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
How are you feeling? After every game? How are you?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's gonna be a four while Yeah, until he puts
a bunch of them in a row. I don't care
if he put five in a row, six in a row,
How you feeling?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
You good? Any paying, any problems? Does he get to
the point does he get to the point where they
stop asking me that damn question? No, because that's when
they'll get hurt again. So he can't. He can't do that.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But I was just sitting here thinking how bizarre would
that be if that became your work life? Every day
we walked in did whatever you do? Anybody that walks
by and goes, hey, how you feeling, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
You're right? And he ain't bothering you. How's your arm?
How's your shoulder? Right?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Every day this guy pitches, someone's gonna ask him that question.
They're gonna ask him before he pitches, day before, how
are you good? Any tightness, any soreness, stretched out?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Feel good? Great? After the game? Okay? Any pain you
feel anything? That would be tough.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That would be a tough position to be in where
basically everybody asks everybody always asks you how you feeling?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
How you doing good? That's where he's at. It would
get annoying. It would get very annoying. I'm sure he's
gonna get testy if he continues to hear that. But
he's handling it well and hopefully he can't stay healthy
because he was. He was fantastic and they're going to
need him, and they got guys coming back, which is
going to be good. So let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Blake Snell schedule to make his final rehab start Saturday,
trying in pitch yesterday. He's expected to pitch again today
at Triple A. Could join the team this weekend for
trying again. It's kind of the Tyler Glass now scenario.
How you feeling, You're right?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You good?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
He's one of those guys too, He's going to get
that all the time. Let's hope he is feeling all
right and he is good and he is ready. I
don't think Blake Snell's going to get that. I think
Blake Snell will just come back and pitch. Yeah, Sazaki, Now,
we didn't know when he was going to pitch again,
if at all this year. If you remember back when
this happened, He's gonna throw a bullpen session Saturday, and
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if that goes well, he'll face live hitters at the
Arizona Complex next week. I think he would be the
added bonus if he's ready to go. And I'll tell
you this, when he came up and he started. We
know how he looked at his outings and he was
getting better. And maybe I could be wrong about this,
or maybe I'm just overly optimistic or hopeful, but I
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think if in fact, he can come back this year
and pitch, I think he's going to be the guy
everybody expects. And I don't know why. When he first started,
he was learning to pitch. Remember he's a guy that
probably should have started in the minors. He really didn't
have any experience pitching.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
They started, Yeah, they decided to bring him right up
and allow him to go pitch. And that's a different
It's a different game over here. It's a amy. You're
you're talking about the best hitters in the world and
things you've got away with in Japan. You're not going
to get away with over here. You make a mistake,
somebody's gonna make you pay. And he found that out
in a hurry. But again that being said, he absolutely
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when he's on, he's tough to hit. He's got electric stuff.
And hopefully this time off allowed him to kind of regroup,
settle in. And I'm with you for I think he will.
I think he comes back, and I think it helps
that maybe not a whole lot of people going to
have seen him. He's not gonna get a whole lot
of starts before the playoff starts, and so it might
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be a good thing that he's like that ace in
the hole that they hold off and they put him out,
throw him out there, and guy's like, who's this guy?
We don't have a big book on him anymore. So
he could be back as well. Now the flip side
of this, Tanner Scott is now on the injured list.
The forearm and elbow inflammation. AMURI didn't show any structural
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or ligament damage. They're going to shut him down for
a few days and then go from there. All right,
So what does that mean? That means I think everybody
catches a break here. I think he catches a break,
and I think so do the Dodgers. You would think
earlier in the year when he was struggling. You know,
the first thing if a guy's really struggling, but you're
paying him a lot of money but he can't figure
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it out and he just doesn't have it. You know,
we watch him, they go, hey, man, I gotta tell you, so,
I think your arm hurts. I think you got a
bad arm. You know, don't you feel any pain in
your arm? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Not really, little bit maybe a little bit, okay, a
little bit. Yeah, you're going in the il. That gives
everybody a chance to regroup. He catches, saying, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
what are you saying? What the I'm like listening to
you rant on this. I'm trying to figure out if
you're talking you know.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
What.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
But guy's really struggling. Guy's struggling. Okay, I mean really struggling.
And Tanner Scout was struggling. Fair, fair, okay, absolutely there
needed to be a reset one way or another.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Now I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Just sending them back out there wasn't working. The reset
wasn't working. Well, we'll just put him back out there
and let him work his way through it. He did
a little bit and then he didn't. So if that's
the case, why don't you go up to him and say, hey, look,
I know you've been struggling. Then your leg bothering you?
What do you mean my leg is fine?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No? No, seriously, I get doesn't your leg hurt? Oh?
Maybe a little bit? Good? I l everybody, catch your breath.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You work it out, stretch it out, work on your
leg that apparently didn't hurt, but I think it did,
and you kind of reset everybody.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
We reset, we bring it back and you're ready to go.
Do you think that ever happens? Oh yeah, I'm sure.
Why are you question me? Of course it does. I
don't think he's sitting here questioning me because I don't think.
I mean, when you're talking about that. It just reminded
me because it happens in football. I don't know the
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rules now, but back when I played, you had so
many guys that that you could add to I R.
But you had to do it before the season started.
If you did it before the season started, you had
a chance they could come back and you can, they
can play and all that. So there's a certain number.
So every fourth game, the last preseason game, every team,
there would be four or five guys that would just
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happen to get hurt, just happened to get injured, you know,
roll down, Oh my shoulder, Oh my shoulder. Yeah, we
got to put them on, eye on, and you get
to keep those borderline guys that you didn't want to
cut or you didn't want to put on bride squad.
But it reminds me of that. Yeah, of course that happens.
I'm sure it does. You know. It's like, hey, yeah, yeah,
you arm hurts. Your arm hurts a little bit, doesn't it.
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And the guy says no, no, no, no, no, no,
you're not hearing me. I'm telling you your arm hurts.
It's not a question. It's not a question. It's a statement.
Your arm hurts, all right, okay, and we're gonna put
you down. I just don't. I don't. I don't think
it's that situation with Tanner Scott. I really don't. I
think it now. It's I think it's a blessing, be
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honest with you, because hopefully it's not serious and he
can come back. But the fact that he's going to
get a reset, I think it's a good thing. And
the question, though, the question, because we we've heard this before,
to your point, is has he been hurt and pitching
hurt all along and not said anything, because you know
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obviously that was the case with Sasaki and some other guys.
It's like, I wanted to push it because I know
we were struggling. I wanted I need to get out
there and help the team, and I'm not going to
say anything, So Hopefully that's not the case, but it
could very well be the case that his arm has
been bothering him for a while and he didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
That we speculated on that the other day. Yeah, and
you don't wish that on anybody. And if his arm
had been hurting him for a while and he didn't
say anything, he should know that his arm was killing
all of.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Us watching him. We were in pain watching him go
out there.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So hopefully this is a reset, give him a few days,
let him get himself right, you know, get some treatment
on his arm, and I think also psychologically, Rodney, Yeah,
you know, just step back for a minute. But that's
a hard thing, Fred, I'm just telling you, it's a
hard thing at any sport, you know, because you taught
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to play hurt as an athlete, you taught to play
through the pain. And even if you're a pitcher and
that's what you do, I've done it. I don't know
anybody that hasn't done it. Where you feel sore and
you're like, I don't even know if I can go,
but you don't tell anybody that you're sore, and you
just kind of work through it because you believe you
out there is better than anybody else, the other options,
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and you just work through it. So I don't you know, Yes,
of course you got to be honest, But I understand
why certain guys in certain situations won't say anything.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Freddy Freeman's that way. Freddie Freeman will never tell you
he's hurting. I mean the only time I was shocked
to see Freddie walk off the field when he got
hitting the wrist, because Freddy is a guy that will
Freddy might have three broken legs, if he can still run,
he'll he won't tell anybody to go out and play.
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Didn't you think though, when you saw him when he
got hit. I knew because of what you said. I
knew that moment he started walking he was done. That
wasn't even a question. There wasn't even a pause.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
No, he was done.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It just took off.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But how many games did he set out? I mean,
that looked bad by the way it did. It did
I thought it, honestly, I really did too. And the
look on his face, the look on his face when
he was walking off, he didn't even stop to say
anything to anybody. He kept walking through and went to
the clubhouse right away. I was shocked that he played
the next day, and then he comes back yesterday. Boom done. Yeah,
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that's pretty cool. We're gonna talk more Dodgers here in
a couple of minutes. But the story that broke this morning,
and Kevin told me about it, and I thought, God,
he's so young.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well he wasn't that young. I mean, I guess kinda.
But Hogan died. He wasn't young seventy one. Oh yeah,
I guess that is, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I mean, you know, in today's world, it's not really old,
let's be honest, and not that young, right. He was
experiencing a serious medical related issue, according to the police
in Clearwater, Florida. Personnel provided medical treatment. Hogan was taken
to a nearby hospital, but he died at the hospital.
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Cause of death has not been released. Police confirmed there
was no signs of foul play. A nine to one
one call from his house for a possible cardiac arrest,
and that's all we know.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I have to tell you.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Over the years, you know, you've either liked pro wrestling
or not like pro wrestling. And when I was on
Channel four, I used to show wrestling highlights, and I
remember people saying to me, it's not sports and I
would turn around and go, yeah, but it's something people watch,
it's something people like. It was great theater, it was
good drama, and it attracted an enormous audience. And I
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would say during the periods of professional wrestling, there have
been superstars, and it might be generational, but Hulk Hogan
might have been the biggest superstar in wrestling history. John
Cena the Rock, I got it, Hogan was before them,
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but Hulk Hogan really was the WWF at that point.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
He was the face, he was the draw.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
He had transcended. He had transcended wrestling into everyday life.
And that's always the key, if you can transcend what
you do, even if you didn't follow pro wrestling. Rodney,
I think people knew who hul Cogan was. Yeah, I'm
sure obviously played in the Rocky movie Rocky eight three.
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I believe it was.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah. I mean, he definitely made it, made it what
it was. He was a showman, not well liked by
his other peers, though not very well liked at all.
That's all I got to say. Did you know him? No,
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I'd heard that as well, but I knew I always
believed that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
There was some jealousy associated with it because I mean,
he was the guy, and there was nobody bigger than
he was.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
People definitely thought that he was in Vince mcmaon's back
pocket and he was a shill for management a lot,
and so there was a lot of people in the
WWF at the time that helped that against them.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
What else did you make? He was like the only
one getting paid. Everybody else was making minimum wage when
he was the guy.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, he was a guy. There's no question about him.
And you know, we can't go into how Vince McMahon
operated that thing is.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
That's a show in and of itself.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So yeah, no, that's a whole deal. That's I'm just
not a fan. Later on and later on in his
life he just went on the ugly side and rants
and stuff like that. So I'm not I was never
really a big fan. Okay, Well, I know the sex
tape that I know, Well, I'm not even talking about that.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
He had a lot of He was very out released, spoken,
outspoken with a political takes in the in recent years
that turns a certain sect of the population off.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I put it that way. Yeah, we don't have to
get into it. But yet, Okay, Well, in any event.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
He did pass away today at the age of seventy one,
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A lot of great stuff. We'll be giving that away
later on in the program when we come back. Let's
get into some potential trade targets for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
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Speaker 2 (22:42):
Ah, there you go. Let's let this go for a minute.
In addition to Hulk Hogan passing away, so did Chuck
and Jony remember him from the Tonight show Fred back
in the day, very very talented musician. He passed away
as well today eighty four. News of his passing became
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public today. I remember that song, by the way, I
remember that song song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very talented. It's
it's timeless, it really is. Anyway that song comes on
if you just traveling and listen whatever, you stay and
listen to it. You just listen to her, you let
it play. All right, Well, we lost Chuck MANCIONI and
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we've lost Hulk Hogan. And I also say we didn't
say it the other day, but tragic about Malcolm Jamal
Warner the other day? Oh my god, what was Fife old? Yeah, yeah,
it was this tragic drowning in Costa Rica. So man,
it's tough, tough, tough, tough, tough couple of days. Yeah,
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all right, let's get back to the Dodgers here for
a second. So but the trade deadline here, it comes,
ready or not, and now you've got to look at
what are you gonna do? And everybody's starting to speculate
on what they may or may not do. So the Dodgers,
if they're looking for relievers, Johann Doran of the Twins,
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David Bedener are the pirates and the name that has
been circulated for some time. The third Basement from Arizona.
Eugenio Suarez, bad man guy is a bad man. Have
you got thirty something home runs? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
He is just killing the ball this year, Yeah, killing
the ball this year. He could be available as well.
I don't know Bednar, you know what, I should have
looked it up. I don't know Bednar's record. I know
this a couple of years ago he was lights out
as a closer for the Pirates. Yeah, and then he
really went through it. He struggled, really struggled. But then
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do they need a closer?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's the thing they need one with with trying coming
back and Kopec coming back, do they need a closer?
Tanner Scott, you gotta believe, you know, I mean, we
don't know, but the reports are initially were negative on
the MRI, So you gotta believe he's going to come
back at some point. He's still got Kirby Yate. Do
you need that? And do you also think because the
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Suare's name is circling around there that that is the
reason why Max Munsey is taking batting practice in Arizona
this week? Yeah? Well no, I mean it's amazing they
thought he'd be out like they thought he'd be out forever.
But Max is herring trying to get back because yeah,
the deadline's up, and you know they bringing a guy
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like Suarez, that's that's who's been hotter than hot this season.
It's like, m what's that gonna do for him? So well,
they don't need a third basement. I mean, if Max
comes back, they don't need a third basement. They need
an outfielder. Can Suarez play the outfield? I don't care
what position you play on any team. If you come
to the Dodgers you're a third baseman. Great, tomorrow you'll
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play right field. I've never played right field before. There's
one way to learn.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Get out there. I mean that's how they do it.
Just knock yourself out. Get out there. Monty could play second.
Couldn't he put Schwarz at third? Oh that's what he
came up doing playing second? He did, you know, so
he definitely could do that. Both those guys in lineup
would be will be killer.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
By the way, you guys asked about Bednar, So he
does have fifteen saves this year with a two three
one era, so it's not lights out but not terrible.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well, I think the fact that they're not hitting though,
Go ahead, Frand I'm sorry. I was just gonna say.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
The thing you have to consider with Betnar is you
know there are a few save opportunities for the Pirates.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's first, very true. You know how good is he?
I don't know. He doesn't get to do it very often. Well,
he got fifteen of them, so that's probably there's only
been fifteen times. There's only been fifteen opportunities. I'm sure.
Like you said with the Pirates state, Look, they got
the best pitcher in the league, and he's I think
he's got a losing record right now. They don't get
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any runs. Oh, he does have a losing record. Yeah,
I just don't know, you know, given where the Dodgers are,
and do you think it's more of a concern of
the bullpen right now or the offense and hitting right now? Okay,
they answer both, I know both. But the answer ball
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had to go in the direction which way do you
go at the trade deadline? Hitting?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You got to get the best of either or where
you're going hitting. But now here's your question, and then
we'll figure it out. Tanner Scott is now healthy, all right,
He's healthy. Yeah, Yates is healthy, all right? Right now,
do you trust either one of them to close games?
There's your question answer that we'll have. Our answer is
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trying coming back either one of them? Do you trust
right now? I'm not saying they can't do it. I'm
not saying they.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Won't do it. Do not trust? No, No, where they
are right now?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Okay, So now you have two guys you're paying that
were closers and you can't trust either one right now?
That's one thing. Now let's go to trying it. He
is going to come back. Do you believe that he
will remain injury free for the remainder of the season. Yes,
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you do believe that? Yes? Okay, so you're finished out
last year he finished out before. Yeah, I think he'll finish.
If that's the case, then can we agree trying is
the closer without a doubt? All right?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And if you I believe that he is healthy and
will stay healthy, yeah, And do you believe he will
pitch as he has in the past, He'll be the
trind and that we know.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Until he proves otherwise. Yeah, okay, so you're gonna bet
on yes he will? Yes, So we don't have uh,
you remember remember too, look much like Otani probably could
have started a season pitching. The Dodgers are a team.
They're not gonna bring you back early. They're gonna make
sure you are absolutely right. So this is not just
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a rushback for Trying or Copek when he comes back.
They're gonna make sure of those guys are right before
they come back. So you believe when they come back.
Trying in first, he is healthy and he will be
the blake Trying we've seen in the past. And I
also believe he'll make it to the end. Yes, Okay,
if that's the case, then you don't need a closer.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
If that's what you're banking on and you believe that
and you have actions, says two things as the Dodgers
that the average person does not. You have analytics, you
have his medical records, You've watched them train, you've seen
them practice, you've talked to the trainers, you've talked to
the doctor, and after all of that, you believe that
he is going to be good to go and take
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you the rest of the way. You don't need a
closer because if you go out and get bednar but
aren't you don't you get a factor in Kopek too,
because any coming sometime in August, well, I'm not sure.
I know he was on the sixty day, so he's
got to get he's got to get right. We're only
going to base it on one guy right now, the
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guy coming back soon, you know, based on Bruce dog
ranorall coming back either.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I'll see that. The Bazuka, that's sad. Yeah, now that's
a different question. I love the Bazuka. Bazuka came on
a show. I love the bazukah. But you asked me
the question of do I believe trying it will be
healthy the rest of the way, I said yes. If
you asked me that question about the Bozuka, I would say,
I don't know. You're right, he's got bad luck. Yeah,
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he got bad luck.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
All right, So if that's the case, and you have tried,
and then if you're going to trade for Duran or Bednar,
you have trying in Duran bet Noar Yates, Scott, you
got a lot of guys are going to pitch one
ending a game.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Assuming they're all healthy. They're assuming that all those guys
are gonna stay healthy too. There's a lot of hope
and intuition, right now about trying In and Kopek and
you guys that do not have a track record of
being able to stay healthy. So isn't it more prudent
to go out there and just get a guy to
make sure as insurance?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Even I'll ask you the same question I asked Roder.
But that's what they did in the off season, didn't
they So they got to go do it again at
the trade deadline.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I mean, if things aren't working out the way that
you expected, which as of right now they're not.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Kevin will ask you the same question, do you think
Tryanon comes back and makes it the rest of the
season healthy?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
If I were a gambling man, I'd say no, just
based on his history of arm issues and all that.
I'm hopeful that he does, but I can't confidently say that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Okay, no, that's my point. So Rodney says, yeah, I
think he'll make it. You say, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I can't. I can't bet out that because I trust
the Dodgers and how they're going to use it. That's
why I say, yes, he'll he'll he'll finish it out.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, But it's simple. If he can't make it, you
have to get a closer you have to get a reliever.
If you believe it can make it, you don't need
it because if you get bednar or duran and they
come in, great, they're here now. Scott's healthy, Yates is healthy,
Trying is healthy, and I guess it's fine because you
can put them all in for an inning of a
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time like six, seven, eight nine.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
But yeah, you got a lot of guys there that
are like, okay, you guys Tanner Scott coming back? Do
you think you said it's a reset? You think he
comes back and gets back into form because it can't
be much worse than he had for the last two months.
You think he comes back to for him when he comes.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Back uncertain, I'm gonna say he's been hurt all year, Yes,
because I mean he hasn't even resembled the guy he
was and there had to be a reason for that.
So then look at it like this. You got the
eighth and ninth, then he wrapped up. If they go
get a closer and trying and healthy, it's going to
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be those two. You got those two, you got, you
got Vessia still experious.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
You know he had some trouble right then, he have
some issue going on to also hurt right now. Yeah, yeah,
so hopefully he comes back. I mean, you've got a
lot of arms, Yeah, a lot of arms. And what
do you put Yates? What do your Where do you
trust Yates? Where do you trust him?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Now?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I don't know. I don't know. I think you might
have to trust him to close for you for the
next week or so. See how that goes, because he's
been with your setup guy, he's been the eighth inning guy, right,
but he hasn't been lights out. No he hasn't. No,
he hasn't. But maybe you let him close. See if
that makes a difference. Just see how he does see
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being in it.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well, wait a minute, when was the game recently? Oh
my god, it was the game. It was a game
where Autman jumped up and took the three run homer away.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
That was and also yesterday when he loaded the bases
like it almost blew yesterday's game, Kirby Yates. Yeah, so
you're running out of guys to trust at the moment.
My thing is, if you get to a point where
you have too many arms, when the postseason arrives, you'll
deal with it.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
You'll find I mean, look.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
At last year when you got to the playoffs, you
had two and a half starters. Imagine you have a
bull playing games and if all these guys are clicking,
probably not the worst thing in the world to have
four or five guys who have closed the experience in
a bullpen game in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
If you need it.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Is coming back Kevin.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
I don't know he had that leg issue, and he's
on the sixty day injured list, so they don't really know.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I think that I think the idea in August, ideally
late August, is what they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
But why did it just become Max Munsey come back
like three weeks after almost breaking your leg in half.
Max Munsey should not be taking batting practice, I have
to be honest. He should not be hitting already. Well,
maybe it wasn't as bad as it looked, Frett. That
guy's a monster, I mean really bad, and they're not
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that bad. And some things don't even look like they
were bad and they're horrible.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Which is I believe what Dave Roberts said.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
It wasn't as bad as that they initially thought, so
he's the initial diagnosis wasn't as bad, so he's going
to be back a little sooner than they thought he
would be.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, all right, all right, only come back. Let's continue this.
What one Dodger pitcher we kicked us around before gaining
some traction. Now what one Dodger pitcher may be gone
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at the trade deadline.
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We kicked this around maybe three weeks ago. Maybe three
weeks ago, just kind of tossed it under the ether,
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and we thought, nah, I don't know if this will
be the case. Well, here's the deal. I think David Vassa,
am I right? Kevin. David Vassa actually had this.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
She mentioned this on Dodger Talk the last time they started.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yes, yeah, And then days ago Ken Rosenthal picked it
up right, and he reported.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
On this this morning in his latest article in The Athletic.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yes, all right, So to be fair, we speculated on this,
but when we speculate, we don't have as much intel
or info as David vass say.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
We were just spitball and throwing stuff against the wall.
It wasn't you know there was a reporting behind what
we said.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, well, when is a reporting behind what I say? Comment?
No comment, no comment. I think that was necessary from you.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Anyway, here's the deal, Ryan McMahon, Colorado is going to
be available, third basement, not having his best but can
hit and if memory serves, he's under club control, which
is a great thing. Here's the deal if Munsey didn't
come back. But of course he's hitting. And we kicked
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around Suarez as a possibility, although personally I don't know.
I don't think Arizona would trade him to the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
That would be far fetched. Yeah, I think, or they
would trade him to the Dodgers, but they were Yeah, exactly,
That's what I'm saying that the Arizona is not going
to trade hiunless they get a boat load back for him.
He's playing them right now and then it into the Division.
So no, but Colorado's a different store. Even though they're
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in the division. Colorado's not going anywhere anytime soon. No,
they'll do anything. They'll do anything to get prospects or
whatever they got to get.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Okay, but here's the name, and I can't believe it
when we were kicking it around. Now it's being tossed
around in reality, Tustin May, that would be the guy.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
The first.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
You wouldn't wish that on Dustin May. It'd be sad
if he left the Dodgers. Moreover, if you had to
go anywhere, that's the last place you want to send
a pitcher to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, I mean point and a half.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
I don't think he's quite a ten to five guy.
With the no trade laws the unfortunately for Dustin.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, so that's the last place a pitcher wants to
be sent. But if you could get McMahon, I don't
know if he plays other positions. I know he's always
played third base. Could he play right field?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Well?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I will also say about it.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Would you if you're going to get these guys that
are that are perennial third baseman? Right? Are you talking
about play third base? And with the defensive issues that
the Dodgers have had, why not let the guy that
you're getting as a third baseman play third base and
move Max when he comes back to second base or
move him somewhere else. Okay, if you move him to
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second base, I'm good with that because he's playing second base. Yeah,
remember years You remember a couple of years ago, he's
playing second base and a guy tries to steal and
here's the throat of Max.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
He almost brought that guy in half. He was on
the show with his Live at Hollywood Park and I
asked him about it. He goes, yeah, you know, I
played linebacker.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I welcome that. I like that kind of play. Yeah,
I thought he was dead. He just leveled him. So
if he can, if he's comfortable there, Okay, But here's
the thing. Here's the thing. Okay, so you put Max
at second base, which I don't I don't like. Here's
why I don't get a maybe not get a position
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player and go pitcher maybe, like Kevin said, it's because
I think you gotta play Hassan Kim. I think you've
got to get him in the lineup. I think you
got to keep playing him and playing him and playing.
He is a weapon and he's starting to hit. I
think you gotta you gotta nurture that speed kills and
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as the season goes forward and into the playoffs, he
will be a tremendous weapon for you. So I would
get him as much experience and defensively, if you watched
him the last couple of series, he's been pretty good.
He's been pretty good. He's probably he's probably the only
one that didn't make an error. Yeah, yes, oh, Rodney,
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he's a gold glove guy. Absolutely, that's what I'm saying.
I don't know if I want to move anybody to
second base, and because I want to allow him to play.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
So I'll also say this in the context of Dustin May,
so Fred that conversation about Ry McMahon is the one
that we just kind of threw out there like a
month ago. The recent reporting between Vesse and now Rosenthal
picking it up this morning, is if you would flip
May as part of a deal to bring in a reliever,
an impact reliever, with the idea of being that May
would lose his spot in the rotation once everybody comes
back healthy. So instead of in being a back end
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of the rotation guy or being just probably being a
long guy in the pen, you can use him as
a trade ship to bring in a bet Gnar or
someone else.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Because if you're banking on Snell and Zaki and all
these guys coming back, and now that Otani's pitching, there's
not a spot for him.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Correct, So it's not about McMahon or a position player.
It will be flipping May as a starter as part
of a deal to bring in an impact reliever.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Which they could probably get something good for him too young, and.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
They wouldn't have to go to Colorado, That's right, they'd
send him to Pittsburgh. Goodtar that much better. Yeah, yeah,
at least right you got a shot. I mean, who
knows how many games you will win? They can't win
to see?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Where did I see where Class A from Cleveland might
be available to I saw that now.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
If Assay's reported on this too, and apparently Cleveland is
one of the stingiest front offices to make trades with,
so he doesn't think a deal with them would be
likely because they'd ask for the farm.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Literally, why don't the Dodgers do what needs to be done?
And why don't the Pirates understand who they are and
just eat it? Why don't the Dodgers trade for Paul's schemes?
Why don't the Pirates know that while he's there, they're
they're not the Angels, Fred, They're not the Angels. Unfortunately,
when Paul Skiings is ready, probably two years before he's up,
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he'll be dealt for a boatload.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Yeah. They still got to sale tickets for it right now?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, for three more years at least milk it every
fifth day, Yeah, exactly, stadium's full. Yeah, you're telling them
why they got to do it now? Why do they
got to do it now? Because the Dodgers need him
now that's why happened.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
That makes sense for Pittsburgh for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, well what what.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Makes sense for Pittsburgh to hold on to him until
the last possible moment? Like pretty much what the Angels
should have did with Otani before it got too late.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
That, yeah, they we're gonna trade O'tani And you know
twenty seventeen, when he was under control for five more
years or whatever, why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
And that look where they're at.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Well, yeah, we all said they should have traded him
in twenty twenty or whatever it was twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
You know what, when the Pirates picked Skiings, they should
have traded him immediately they knew they have no shot.
They should have traded him for ten guys, they are
the true no hope. I know you said that about
San Diego years back, but Pirates, boy, they are truly
the no hope. How how do you feel if you're
Paul Skiings? I'm sorry, I know we gotta go ahead,
no hot to be bad. You gotta be feeling like, wow,
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he's like, these four years can't come quick enough. Get
me out of here.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
All he can do is go out every day and
be his best. Seriously, that's all he can do. Yeah,
you know, dude, strike out? Can you strike out double digits?
And and have you know one earned run and you know,
two hits maybe, and they'll lose. He'll end up with
a record of five and twelve.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
He has a five and eight record right now with
an ERA of one point nine to one. That's hard
to do for it seem to be that bad to
have someone be that dominant and.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Still be five zero games. Did they lose?
Speaker 4 (45:28):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
He could win the cy Young with a losing record.
He probably should because records don't matter, right, records don't
matter anymore. Julio Urias knows that ain't that twenty game
twenty game winner.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Okay, uh, when we come back, Vinnie Bonn signor will
join the program and we'll get into NFL training camps.
All right, let's go Fred Rogan Rodney Pete at a
five seventy LA Sports Big three hour program for US today.
Benny Bond Signor will jump on the show during the
one o'clock hour, and Net Coletti will be here during the.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Two o'clock hour.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Rodney, Well, the Dodgers have left, and they got out
of town alive. And after what happened yesterday, I said,
run for the plane as quickly as possible and go
before they take that one back. It was a very
interesting homestand they went to win four and if we're
to be completely honest, didn't look very good. But they
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did at least when yesterday, after the bullpen gave it up,
Freddy Freeman came up big, hit the ball, the Dodgers win, And.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
What can you say? What can you say when when
Freddy came up? Would you think when Mookie beat it
out and then they walked Reefe Freddy came up, did
you just feel like it was a rap or did
you feel like it's not going good for the Dodgers.
This is gonna be another one of those moments you
want the truth, Yes, I didn't feel like it was
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a rap. You didn't I wasn't sure that it would
go south, but I didn't think, well, this will finish
it right here. I thought something's gonna have to happen,
and that's kind of the way they've been playing lately.
Something has to happen.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And fortunately he hit it, Baterer made a play and
left couldn't make the play, and the Dodgers win, and
then though it looked like they had won the World Series, some.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
People were questioning, I'm just gonna talk baseball. People were
questioning batter in his play, like why did he go
for it like that, You've got runners at second and third,
you're up one. You either have to make the catch
or game two. You can't let it bounce in front
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of you. You gotta go for it if it bounces
it because it's two outs. Otani's running from second on
the hit of the on the on the on the
crack of the bat, so he's going to get a jump.
And I heard people tell me, oh, why did why
didn't he Why did he try to die for it?
Why did he try to go for it? Why didn't
he just let it bounce and try to throw him
out of the play. No chance, it's the only play,
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and you told that before the play starts, by your
defensive coaches and just in training in general, you got
to make that play. And and he and he attempted
it and came very close. But good thing for the Dodgers.
But no, I didn't. I felt it like old school.
I was like Freddy, Freddy lists for this moment, this
is this is good, We're good. And I knew they
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were in trouble. You know, it was good for you know,
for Mookie to do that, even if it wasn't infield
hit and he beat it out, but to get on
base to keep it going. And then they walk O Tani.
You're like, oh, why why didn't he just why did
they walk O Tani? You know, because he's a beast,
And he said, poor, straight five straight home runs. I
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get it. With the runner on first, they're gonna put it,
put the winning run on base. But it just happened
to be Otani. That's like a cardinal sent right. You
don't put the winning run on base unless it's Otani
or Barry Bonds. Well, when Barry Bonds was playing, Yeah,
they put him on walked in a run, yeah they did, Yes,
they did. Gave up a run. Yes, they did. We'll
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give up a run instead of four. How good is
Otani right now? Though? I mean he can look, he
can look. You know, sometimes he looks bad at the
plate where he gets fooled and he just off balance
and swinging that crazy stuff and he what kind of
swing was that? But he said, so many home runs
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with two strikes where you think, oh my god. He
takes that time out, he regroups and he goes in
there and he just okay, now I'm dialed in. I've
seen it all. Boom, it didn't matter. I mean two
days ago or two games ago, the guy came in
throwing one hundred and two and it's like, oh, he's
our guy. Boom, home run, two strikes, and then yesterday
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he did it again. I mean, it's just he's absolutely amazing,
amazing hitter.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Here's the thing about baseball, Rodney. Three weeks ago, people
were going, what's wrong with o Toddy? Yeah, what's wrong
with him? He's not hitting the ball. He doesn't look
good up there, But that's baseball. It's ebbs and flows.
What I like when he steps out of the batter's
box and he asks for time. He always does in
such a polite way, kind of nods his head, smiles,
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asked for time, always very polite, just gonna have a second.
Sure he can get back in there, There goes, there goes.
But as for walking him and getting to Freddie and
you thinking, oh, well now this is done, we're in
good shape.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I will say I was worried when, you know, because
Ruiz came in for Tiascar and yeah he hit the
home run the other day, its first one. But you're like,
but he drew the walk, so I was good. But
Treddy came up out, Yeah it was good. I when
when yeah, when Treddy came up, I was like, okay,
this's gonna get done. Yeah, well let me put it
like this. A half step more and it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Wouldn't have got done by badern was a half step
wasn't like it was just cut and dry and we're
gonna walk on of here. I have step more. And
I got to tell you I thought he made a
good play on the ball. I mean, he did what
he had to do. He went for it, and he
gave him really close. Yeah, I half step more and
it's a different story. Yeah, And then you have.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
To ask away one in five right at two and four.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, and you ask yourself a half step more and
it would have been over. But they gave up the lead. Yeah,
And it's like, God, it's not like that was a
win where you go, that was great, that was.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
A win where you oh, you said this the other day,
you said this the other day. It's now the opposite.
Because early in the season, when they started the season
they got behind, it was like, no problem, they're down two,
down three, down four, whatever, it is no problem. They're
coming back now, especially against that series against Milwaukee, right
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they took the lead several times in that series, and
you're thinking at this moment, you're like, we're up three.
That's not good enough. That's not good enough. Here they come,
they're gonna tie it up or take the lead. And
that's the feeling of it right now, which you say
ebbs and flows in baseball. It's weird how you feel
a certain way at a different part of the same season.
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You know, where you felt that no lead was safe
for the other team. The Dodgers were going to find
a way to win. Now it's it didn't matter if
the Dodgers are up three or four because of the
way the bullpen and the pitching is gone. It's a
crapshoot if they're going to pull it out and stay ahead.
But I will say, good, good looking Tyler Glass. Now
(07:04):
he looked great. He looked fantastic. He added all work
and when you have twelve strikeouts, went seven innings, he
was fantastic. He was fantastic. And hopefully that continues. And
it was happy to see after the game he said
he felt good and he still feels good. Because that's
the question.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
That's the only thing that matters, you know, can you
believe you're a point with him? Okay, nice, nice game tonight, boy,
you were really on at Thanks.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
How are you feeling? Yeah? Can you imagine that's the
question every time? How are you feeling? Yeah? You feel
all right?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Could you imagine if you walked into work every morning
somebody walked up to you and you said, hey, Bill,
how are you doing? How you feeling? How are you
all right? That's he's gonna get that every game.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
How are you feeling? After every game? How are you?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's gonna be a four while Yeah, until he puts
a bunch of them in a row. I don't care
if he put five in a row, six in a row,
How you feeling?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
You good? Any paying, any problems? Does he get to
the point does he get to the point where they
stop asking me that damn question? No, because that's when
they'll get hurt again. So he can't. He can't do that.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But I was just sitting here thinking how bizarre would
that be if that became your work life? Every day
we walked in did whatever you do? Anybody that walks
by and goes, hey, how you feeling, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
You're right? And he ain't bothering you. How's your arm?
How's your shoulder? Right?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Every day this guy pitches, someone's gonna ask him that question.
They're gonna ask him before he pitches, day before, how
are you good? Any tightness, any soreness, stretched out?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Feel good? Great? After the game? Okay? Any pain you
feel anything? That would be tough.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That would be a tough position to be in where
basically everybody asks everybody always asks you how you feeling?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
How you doing good? That's where he's at. It would
get annoying. It would get very annoying. I'm sure he's
gonna get testy if he continues to hear that. But
he's handling it well and hopefully he can't stay healthy
because he was. He was fantastic and they're going to
need him, and they got guys coming back, which is
going to be good. So let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Blake Snell schedule to make his final rehab start Saturday,
trying in pitch yesterday. He's expected to pitch again today
at Triple A. Could join the team this weekend for
trying again. It's kind of the Tyler Glass now scenario.
How you feeling, You're right?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You good?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
He's one of those guys too, He's going to get
that all the time. Let's hope he is feeling all
right and he is good and he is ready. I
don't think Blake Snell's going to get that. I think
Blake Snell will just come back and pitch. Yeah, Sazaki, Now,
we didn't know when he was going to pitch again,
if at all this year. If you remember back when
this happened, He's gonna throw a bullpen session Saturday, and
(10:03):
if that goes well, he'll face live hitters at the
Arizona Complex next week. I think he would be the
added bonus if he's ready to go. And I'll tell
you this, when he came up and he started. We
know how he looked at his outings and he was
getting better. And maybe I could be wrong about this,
or maybe I'm just overly optimistic or hopeful, but I
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think if in fact, he can come back this year
and pitch, I think he's going to be the guy
everybody expects. And I don't know why. When he first started,
he was learning to pitch. Remember he's a guy that
probably should have started in the minors. He really didn't
have any experience pitching.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
They started, Yeah, they decided to bring him right up
and allow him to go pitch. And that's a different
It's a different game over here. It's a amy. You're
you're talking about the best hitters in the world and
things you've got away with in Japan. You're not going
to get away with over here. You make a mistake,
somebody's gonna make you pay. And he found that out
in a hurry. But again that being said, he absolutely
(11:04):
when he's on, he's tough to hit. He's got electric stuff.
And hopefully this time off allowed him to kind of regroup,
settle in. And I'm with you for I think he will.
I think he comes back, and I think it helps
that maybe not a whole lot of people going to
have seen him. He's not gonna get a whole lot
of starts before the playoff starts, and so it might
(11:26):
be a good thing that he's like that ace in
the hole that they hold off and they put him out,
throw him out there, and guy's like, who's this guy?
We don't have a big book on him anymore. So
he could be back as well. Now the flip side
of this, Tanner Scott is now on the injured list.
The forearm and elbow inflammation. AMURI didn't show any structural
(11:47):
or ligament damage. They're going to shut him down for
a few days and then go from there. All right,
So what does that mean? That means I think everybody
catches a break here. I think he catches a break,
and I think so do the Dodgers. You would think
earlier in the year when he was struggling. You know,
the first thing if a guy's really struggling, but you're
paying him a lot of money but he can't figure
(12:09):
it out and he just doesn't have it. You know,
we watch him, they go, hey, man, I gotta tell you, so,
I think your arm hurts. I think you got a
bad arm. You know, don't you feel any pain in
your arm? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Not really, little bit maybe a little bit, okay, a
little bit. Yeah, you're going in the il. That gives
everybody a chance to regroup. He catches, saying, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
what are you saying? What the I'm like listening to
you rant on this. I'm trying to figure out if
you're talking you know.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
What.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
But guy's really struggling. Guy's struggling. Okay, I mean really struggling.
And Tanner Scout was struggling. Fair, fair, okay, absolutely there
needed to be a reset one way or another.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Now I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Just sending them back out there wasn't working. The reset
wasn't working. Well, we'll just put him back out there
and let him work his way through it. He did
a little bit and then he didn't. So if that's
the case, why don't you go up to him and say, hey, look,
I know you've been struggling. Then your leg bothering you?
What do you mean my leg is fine?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No? No, seriously, I get doesn't your leg hurt? Oh?
Maybe a little bit? Good? I l everybody, catch your breath.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You work it out, stretch it out, work on your
leg that apparently didn't hurt, but I think it did,
and you kind of reset everybody.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
We reset, we bring it back and you're ready to go.
Do you think that ever happens? Oh yeah, I'm sure.
Why are you question me? Of course it does. I
don't think he's sitting here questioning me because I don't think.
I mean, when you're talking about that. It just reminded
me because it happens in football. I don't know the
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rules now, but back when I played, you had so
many guys that that you could add to I R.
But you had to do it before the season started.
If you did it before the season started, you had
a chance they could come back and you can, they
can play and all that. So there's a certain number.
So every fourth game, the last preseason game, every team,
there would be four or five guys that would just
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happen to get hurt, just happened to get injured, you know,
roll down, Oh my shoulder, Oh my shoulder. Yeah, we
got to put them on, eye on, and you get
to keep those borderline guys that you didn't want to
cut or you didn't want to put on bride squad.
But it reminds me of that. Yeah, of course that happens.
I'm sure it does. You know. It's like, hey, yeah, yeah,
you arm hurts. Your arm hurts a little bit, doesn't it.
(14:34):
And the guy says no, no, no, no, no, no,
you're not hearing me. I'm telling you your arm hurts.
It's not a question. It's not a question. It's a statement.
Your arm hurts, all right, okay, and we're gonna put
you down. I just don't. I don't. I don't think
it's that situation with Tanner Scott. I really don't. I
think it now. It's I think it's a blessing, be
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honest with you, because hopefully it's not serious and he
can come back. But the fact that he's going to
get a reset, I think it's a good thing. And
the question, though, the question, because we we've heard this before,
to your point, is has he been hurt and pitching
hurt all along and not said anything, because you know
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obviously that was the case with Sasaki and some other guys.
It's like, I wanted to push it because I know
we were struggling. I wanted I need to get out
there and help the team, and I'm not going to
say anything, So Hopefully that's not the case, but it
could very well be the case that his arm has
been bothering him for a while and he didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
That we speculated on that the other day. Yeah, and
you don't wish that on anybody. And if his arm
had been hurting him for a while and he didn't
say anything, he should know that his arm was killing
all of.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Us watching him. We were in pain watching him go
out there.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So hopefully this is a reset, give him a few days,
let him get himself right, you know, get some treatment
on his arm, and I think also psychologically, Rodney, Yeah,
you know, just step back for a minute. But that's
a hard thing, Fred, I'm just telling you, it's a
hard thing at any sport, you know, because you taught
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to play hurt as an athlete, you taught to play
through the pain. And even if you're a pitcher and
that's what you do, I've done it. I don't know
anybody that hasn't done it. Where you feel sore and
you're like, I don't even know if I can go,
but you don't tell anybody that you're sore, and you
just kind of work through it because you believe you
out there is better than anybody else, the other options,
(16:40):
and you just work through it. So I don't you know, Yes,
of course you got to be honest, But I understand
why certain guys in certain situations won't say anything.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Freddy Freeman's that way. Freddie Freeman will never tell you
he's hurting. I mean the only time I was shocked
to see Freddie walk off the field when he got
hitting the wrist, because Freddy is a guy that will
Freddy might have three broken legs, if he can still run,
he'll he won't tell anybody to go out and play.
(17:12):
Didn't you think though, when you saw him when he
got hit. I knew because of what you said. I
knew that moment he started walking he was done. That
wasn't even a question. There wasn't even a pause.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
No, he was done.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It just took off.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But how many games did he set out? I mean,
that looked bad by the way it did. It did
I thought it, honestly, I really did too. And the
look on his face, the look on his face when
he was walking off, he didn't even stop to say
anything to anybody. He kept walking through and went to
the clubhouse right away. I was shocked that he played
the next day, and then he comes back yesterday. Boom done. Yeah,
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that's pretty cool. We're gonna talk more Dodgers here in
a couple of minutes. But the story that broke this morning,
and Kevin told me about it, and I thought, God,
he's so young.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well he wasn't that young. I mean, I guess kinda.
But Hogan died. He wasn't young seventy one. Oh yeah,
I guess that is, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I mean, you know, in today's world, it's not really old,
let's be honest, and not that young, right. He was
experiencing a serious medical related issue, according to the police
in Clearwater, Florida. Personnel provided medical treatment. Hogan was taken
to a nearby hospital, but he died at the hospital.
(18:39):
Cause of death has not been released. Police confirmed there
was no signs of foul play. A nine to one
one call from his house for a possible cardiac arrest,
and that's all we know.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I have to tell you.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Over the years, you know, you've either liked pro wrestling
or not like pro wrestling. And when I was on
Channel four, I used to show wrestling highlights, and I
remember people saying to me, it's not sports and I
would turn around and go, yeah, but it's something people watch,
it's something people like. It was great theater, it was
good drama, and it attracted an enormous audience. And I
(19:13):
would say during the periods of professional wrestling, there have
been superstars, and it might be generational, but Hulk Hogan
might have been the biggest superstar in wrestling history. John
Cena the Rock, I got it, Hogan was before them,
(19:34):
but Hulk Hogan really was the WWF at that point.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
He was the face, he was the draw.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
He had transcended. He had transcended wrestling into everyday life.
And that's always the key, if you can transcend what
you do, even if you didn't follow pro wrestling. Rodney,
I think people knew who hul Cogan was. Yeah, I'm
sure obviously played in the Rocky movie Rocky eight three.
(20:11):
I believe it was.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah. I mean, he definitely made it, made it what
it was. He was a showman, not well liked by
his other peers, though not very well liked at all.
That's all I got to say. Did you know him? No,
(20:35):
I'd heard that as well, but I knew I always
believed that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
There was some jealousy associated with it because I mean,
he was the guy, and there was nobody bigger than
he was.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
People definitely thought that he was in Vince mcmaon's back
pocket and he was a shill for management a lot,
and so there was a lot of people in the
WWF at the time that helped that against them.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
What else did you make? He was like the only
one getting paid. Everybody else was making minimum wage when
he was the guy.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, he was a guy. There's no question about him.
And you know, we can't go into how Vince McMahon
operated that thing is.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
That's a show in and of itself.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So yeah, no, that's a whole deal. That's I'm just
not a fan. Later on and later on in his
life he just went on the ugly side and rants
and stuff like that. So I'm not I was never
really a big fan. Okay, Well, I know the sex
tape that I know, Well, I'm not even talking about that.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
He had a lot of He was very out released, spoken,
outspoken with a political takes in the in recent years
that turns a certain sect of the population off.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I put it that way. Yeah, we don't have to
get into it. But yet, Okay, Well, in any event.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
He did pass away today at the age of seventy one,
and to celebrate the launch of totally awesome cars and
culture from the eighties and nineties, we're often the lucky
winters a day out at one of the world's best
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(22:07):
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A lot of great stuff. We'll be giving that away
later on in the program when we come back. Let's
get into some potential trade targets for the Dodgers.
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Speaker 2 (22:42):
Ah, there you go. Let's let this go for a minute.
In addition to Hulk Hogan passing away, so did Chuck
and Jony remember him from the Tonight show Fred back
in the day, very very talented musician. He passed away
as well today eighty four. News of his passing became
(23:05):
public today. I remember that song, by the way, I
remember that song song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very talented. It's
it's timeless, it really is. Anyway that song comes on
if you just traveling and listen whatever, you stay and
listen to it. You just listen to her, you let
it play. All right, Well, we lost Chuck MANCIONI and
(23:30):
we've lost Hulk Hogan. And I also say we didn't
say it the other day, but tragic about Malcolm Jamal
Warner the other day? Oh my god, what was Fife old? Yeah, yeah,
it was this tragic drowning in Costa Rica. So man,
it's tough, tough, tough, tough, tough couple of days. Yeah,
(23:52):
all right, let's get back to the Dodgers here for
a second. So but the trade deadline here, it comes,
ready or not, and now you've got to look at
what are you gonna do? And everybody's starting to speculate
on what they may or may not do. So the Dodgers,
if they're looking for relievers, Johann Doran of the Twins,
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David Bedener are the pirates and the name that has
been circulated for some time. The third Basement from Arizona.
Eugenio Suarez, bad man guy is a bad man. Have
you got thirty something home runs? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
He is just killing the ball this year, Yeah, killing
the ball this year. He could be available as well.
I don't know Bednar, you know what, I should have
looked it up. I don't know Bednar's record. I know
this a couple of years ago he was lights out
as a closer for the Pirates. Yeah, and then he
really went through it. He struggled, really struggled. But then
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do they need a closer?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's the thing they need one with with trying coming
back and Kopec coming back, do they need a closer?
Tanner Scott, you gotta believe, you know, I mean, we
don't know, but the reports are initially were negative on
the MRI, So you gotta believe he's going to come
back at some point. He's still got Kirby Yate. Do
you need that? And do you also think because the
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Suare's name is circling around there that that is the
reason why Max Munsey is taking batting practice in Arizona
this week? Yeah? Well no, I mean it's amazing they
thought he'd be out like they thought he'd be out forever.
But Max is herring trying to get back because yeah,
the deadline's up, and you know they bringing a guy
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like Suarez, that's that's who's been hotter than hot this season.
It's like, m what's that gonna do for him? So well,
they don't need a third basement. I mean, if Max
comes back, they don't need a third basement. They need
an outfielder. Can Suarez play the outfield? I don't care
what position you play on any team. If you come
to the Dodgers you're a third baseman. Great, tomorrow you'll
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play right field. I've never played right field before. There's
one way to learn.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Get out there. I mean that's how they do it.
Just knock yourself out. Get out there. Monty could play second.
Couldn't he put Schwarz at third? Oh that's what he
came up doing playing second? He did, you know, so
he definitely could do that. Both those guys in lineup
would be will be killer.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
By the way, you guys asked about Bednar, So he
does have fifteen saves this year with a two three
one era, so it's not lights out but not terrible.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well, I think the fact that they're not hitting though,
Go ahead, Frand I'm sorry. I was just gonna say.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
The thing you have to consider with Betnar is you
know there are a few save opportunities for the Pirates.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's first, very true. You know how good is he?
I don't know. He doesn't get to do it very often. Well,
he got fifteen of them, so that's probably there's only
been fifteen times. There's only been fifteen opportunities. I'm sure.
Like you said with the Pirates state, Look, they got
the best pitcher in the league, and he's I think
he's got a losing record right now. They don't get
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any runs. Oh, he does have a losing record. Yeah,
I just don't know, you know, given where the Dodgers are,
and do you think it's more of a concern of
the bullpen right now or the offense and hitting right now? Okay,
they answer both, I know both. But the answer ball
(27:39):
had to go in the direction which way do you
go at the trade deadline? Hitting?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You got to get the best of either or where
you're going hitting. But now here's your question, and then
we'll figure it out. Tanner Scott is now healthy, all right,
He's healthy. Yeah, Yates is healthy, all right? Right now,
do you trust either one of them to close games?
There's your question answer that we'll have. Our answer is
(28:04):
trying coming back either one of them? Do you trust
right now? I'm not saying they can't do it. I'm
not saying they.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Won't do it. Do not trust? No, No, where they
are right now?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Okay, So now you have two guys you're paying that
were closers and you can't trust either one right now?
That's one thing. Now let's go to trying it. He
is going to come back. Do you believe that he
will remain injury free for the remainder of the season. Yes,
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you do believe that? Yes? Okay, so you're finished out
last year he finished out before. Yeah, I think he'll finish.
If that's the case, then can we agree trying is
the closer without a doubt? All right?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And if you I believe that he is healthy and
will stay healthy, yeah, And do you believe he will
pitch as he has in the past, He'll be the
trind and that we know.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Until he proves otherwise. Yeah, okay, so you're gonna bet
on yes he will? Yes, So we don't have uh,
you remember remember too, look much like Otani probably could
have started a season pitching. The Dodgers are a team.
They're not gonna bring you back early. They're gonna make
sure you are absolutely right. So this is not just
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a rushback for Trying or Copek when he comes back.
They're gonna make sure of those guys are right before
they come back. So you believe when they come back.
Trying in first, he is healthy and he will be
the blake Trying we've seen in the past. And I
also believe he'll make it to the end. Yes, Okay,
if that's the case, then you don't need a closer.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
If that's what you're banking on and you believe that
and you have actions, says two things as the Dodgers
that the average person does not. You have analytics, you
have his medical records, You've watched them train, you've seen
them practice, you've talked to the trainers, you've talked to
the doctor, and after all of that, you believe that
he is going to be good to go and take
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you the rest of the way. You don't need a
closer because if you go out and get bednar but
aren't you don't you get a factor in Kopek too,
because any coming sometime in August, well, I'm not sure.
I know he was on the sixty day, so he's
got to get he's got to get right. We're only
going to base it on one guy right now, the
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guy coming back soon, you know, based on Bruce dog
ranorall coming back either.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I'll see that. The Bazuka, that's sad. Yeah, now that's
a different question. I love the Bazuka. Bazuka came on
a show. I love the bazukah. But you asked me
the question of do I believe trying it will be
healthy the rest of the way, I said yes. If
you asked me that question about the Bozuka, I would say,
I don't know. You're right, he's got bad luck. Yeah,
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he got bad luck.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
All right, So if that's the case, and you have tried,
and then if you're going to trade for Duran or Bednar,
you have trying in Duran bet Noar Yates, Scott, you
got a lot of guys are going to pitch one
ending a game.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Assuming they're all healthy. They're assuming that all those guys
are gonna stay healthy too. There's a lot of hope
and intuition, right now about trying In and Kopek and
you guys that do not have a track record of
being able to stay healthy. So isn't it more prudent
to go out there and just get a guy to
make sure as insurance?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Even I'll ask you the same question I asked Roder.
But that's what they did in the off season, didn't
they So they got to go do it again at
the trade deadline.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I mean, if things aren't working out the way that
you expected, which as of right now they're not.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Kevin will ask you the same question, do you think
Tryanon comes back and makes it the rest of the
season healthy?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
If I were a gambling man, I'd say no, just
based on his history of arm issues and all that.
I'm hopeful that he does, but I can't confidently say that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Okay, no, that's my point. So Rodney says, yeah, I
think he'll make it. You say, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I can't. I can't bet out that because I trust
the Dodgers and how they're going to use it. That's
why I say, yes, he'll he'll he'll finish it out.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, But it's simple. If he can't make it, you
have to get a closer you have to get a reliever.
If you believe it can make it, you don't need
it because if you get bednar or duran and they
come in, great, they're here now. Scott's healthy, Yates is healthy,
Trying is healthy, and I guess it's fine because you
can put them all in for an inning of a
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time like six, seven, eight nine.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
But yeah, you got a lot of guys there that
are like, okay, you guys Tanner Scott coming back? Do
you think you said it's a reset? You think he
comes back and gets back into form because it can't
be much worse than he had for the last two months.
You think he comes back to for him when he comes.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Back uncertain, I'm gonna say he's been hurt all year, Yes,
because I mean he hasn't even resembled the guy he
was and there had to be a reason for that.
So then look at it like this. You got the
eighth and ninth, then he wrapped up. If they go
get a closer and trying and healthy, it's going to
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be those two. You got those two, you got, you
got Vessia still experious.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
You know he had some trouble right then, he have
some issue going on to also hurt right now. Yeah, yeah,
so hopefully he comes back. I mean, you've got a
lot of arms, Yeah, a lot of arms. And what
do you put Yates? What do your Where do you
trust Yates? Where do you trust him?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Now?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I don't know. I don't know. I think you might
have to trust him to close for you for the
next week or so. See how that goes, because he's
been with your setup guy, he's been the eighth inning guy, right,
but he hasn't been lights out. No he hasn't. No,
he hasn't. But maybe you let him close. See if
that makes a difference. Just see how he does see
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being in it.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well, wait a minute, when was the game recently? Oh
my god, it was the game. It was a game
where Autman jumped up and took the three run homer away.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
That was and also yesterday when he loaded the bases
like it almost blew yesterday's game, Kirby Yates. Yeah, so
you're running out of guys to trust at the moment.
My thing is, if you get to a point where
you have too many arms, when the postseason arrives, you'll
deal with it.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
You'll find I mean, look.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
At last year when you got to the playoffs, you
had two and a half starters. Imagine you have a
bull playing games and if all these guys are clicking,
probably not the worst thing in the world to have
four or five guys who have closed the experience in
a bullpen game in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
If you need it.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Is coming back Kevin.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
I don't know he had that leg issue, and he's
on the sixty day injured list, so they don't really know.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I think that I think the idea in August, ideally
late August, is what they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
But why did it just become Max Munsey come back
like three weeks after almost breaking your leg in half.
Max Munsey should not be taking batting practice, I have
to be honest. He should not be hitting already. Well,
maybe it wasn't as bad as it looked, Frett. That
guy's a monster, I mean really bad, and they're not
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that bad. And some things don't even look like they
were bad and they're horrible.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Which is I believe what Dave Roberts said.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
It wasn't as bad as that they initially thought, so
he's the initial diagnosis wasn't as bad, so he's going
to be back a little sooner than they thought he
would be.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, all right, all right, only come back. Let's continue this.
What one Dodger pitcher we kicked us around before gaining
some traction. Now what one Dodger pitcher may be gone
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at the trade deadline.
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We kicked this around maybe three weeks ago. Maybe three
weeks ago, just kind of tossed it under the ether,
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and we thought, nah, I don't know if this will
be the case. Well, here's the deal. I think David Vassa,
am I right? Kevin. David Vassa actually had this.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
She mentioned this on Dodger Talk the last time they started.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yes, yeah, And then days ago Ken Rosenthal picked it
up right, and he reported.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
On this this morning in his latest article in The Athletic.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yes, all right, So to be fair, we speculated on this,
but when we speculate, we don't have as much intel
or info as David vass say.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
We were just spitball and throwing stuff against the wall.
It wasn't you know there was a reporting behind what
we said.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, well, when is a reporting behind what I say? Comment?
No comment, no comment. I think that was necessary from you.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Anyway, here's the deal, Ryan McMahon, Colorado is going to
be available, third basement, not having his best but can
hit and if memory serves, he's under club control, which
is a great thing. Here's the deal if Munsey didn't
come back. But of course he's hitting. And we kicked
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around Suarez as a possibility, although personally I don't know.
I don't think Arizona would trade him to the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
That would be far fetched. Yeah, I think, or they
would trade him to the Dodgers, but they were Yeah, exactly,
That's what I'm saying that the Arizona is not going
to trade hiunless they get a boat load back for him.
He's playing them right now and then it into the Division.
So no, but Colorado's a different store. Even though they're
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in the division. Colorado's not going anywhere anytime soon. No,
they'll do anything. They'll do anything to get prospects or
whatever they got to get.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Okay, but here's the name, and I can't believe it
when we were kicking it around. Now it's being tossed
around in reality, Tustin May, that would be the guy.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
The first.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
You wouldn't wish that on Dustin May. It'd be sad
if he left the Dodgers. Moreover, if you had to
go anywhere, that's the last place you want to send
a pitcher to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, I mean point and a half.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
I don't think he's quite a ten to five guy.
With the no trade laws the unfortunately for Dustin.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, so that's the last place a pitcher wants to
be sent. But if you could get McMahon, I don't
know if he plays other positions. I know he's always
played third base. Could he play right field?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Well?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I will also say about it.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Would you if you're going to get these guys that
are that are perennial third baseman? Right? Are you talking
about play third base? And with the defensive issues that
the Dodgers have had, why not let the guy that
you're getting as a third baseman play third base and
move Max when he comes back to second base or
move him somewhere else. Okay, if you move him to
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second base, I'm good with that because he's playing second base. Yeah,
remember years You remember a couple of years ago, he's
playing second base and a guy tries to steal and
here's the throat of Max.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
He almost brought that guy in half. He was on
the show with his Live at Hollywood Park and I
asked him about it. He goes, yeah, you know, I
played linebacker.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I welcome that. I like that kind of play. Yeah,
I thought he was dead. He just leveled him. So
if he can, if he's comfortable there, Okay, But here's
the thing. Here's the thing. Okay, so you put Max
at second base, which I don't I don't like. Here's
why I don't get a maybe not get a position
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player and go pitcher maybe, like Kevin said, it's because
I think you gotta play Hassan Kim. I think you've
got to get him in the lineup. I think you
got to keep playing him and playing him and playing.
He is a weapon and he's starting to hit. I
think you gotta you gotta nurture that speed kills and
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as the season goes forward and into the playoffs, he
will be a tremendous weapon for you. So I would
get him as much experience and defensively, if you watched
him the last couple of series, he's been pretty good.
He's been pretty good. He's probably he's probably the only
one that didn't make an error. Yeah, yes, oh, Rodney,
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he's a gold glove guy. Absolutely, that's what I'm saying.
I don't know if I want to move anybody to
second base, and because I want to allow him to play.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
So I'll also say this in the context of Dustin May,
so Fred that conversation about Ry McMahon is the one
that we just kind of threw out there like a
month ago. The recent reporting between Vesse and now Rosenthal
picking it up this morning, is if you would flip
May as part of a deal to bring in a reliever,
an impact reliever, with the idea of being that May
would lose his spot in the rotation once everybody comes
back healthy. So instead of in being a back end
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of the rotation guy or being just probably being a
long guy in the pen, you can use him as
a trade ship to bring in a bet Gnar or
someone else.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Because if you're banking on Snell and Zaki and all
these guys coming back, and now that Otani's pitching, there's
not a spot for him.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Correct, So it's not about McMahon or a position player.
It will be flipping May as a starter as part
of a deal to bring in an impact reliever.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Which they could probably get something good for him too young, and.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
They wouldn't have to go to Colorado, That's right, they'd
send him to Pittsburgh. Goodtar that much better. Yeah, yeah,
at least right you got a shot. I mean, who
knows how many games you will win? They can't win
to see?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Where did I see where Class A from Cleveland might
be available to I saw that now.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
If Assay's reported on this too, and apparently Cleveland is
one of the stingiest front offices to make trades with,
so he doesn't think a deal with them would be
likely because they'd ask for the farm.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Literally, why don't the Dodgers do what needs to be done?
And why don't the Pirates understand who they are and
just eat it? Why don't the Dodgers trade for Paul's schemes?
Why don't the Pirates know that while he's there, they're
they're not the Angels, Fred, They're not the Angels. Unfortunately,
when Paul Skiings is ready, probably two years before he's up,
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he'll be dealt for a boatload.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Yeah. They still got to sale tickets for it right now?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, for three more years at least milk it every
fifth day, Yeah, exactly, stadium's full. Yeah, you're telling them
why they got to do it now? Why do they
got to do it now? Because the Dodgers need him
now that's why happened.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
That makes sense for Pittsburgh for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, well what what.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Makes sense for Pittsburgh to hold on to him until
the last possible moment? Like pretty much what the Angels
should have did with Otani before it got too late.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
That, yeah, they we're gonna trade O'tani And you know
twenty seventeen, when he was under control for five more
years or whatever, why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
And that look where they're at.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Well, yeah, we all said they should have traded him
in twenty twenty or whatever it was twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
You know what, when the Pirates picked Skiings, they should
have traded him immediately they knew they have no shot.
They should have traded him for ten guys, they are
the true no hope. I know you said that about
San Diego years back, but Pirates, boy, they are truly
the no hope. How how do you feel if you're
Paul Skiings? I'm sorry, I know we gotta go ahead,
no hot to be bad. You gotta be feeling like, wow,
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he's like, these four years can't come quick enough. Get
me out of here.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
All he can do is go out every day and
be his best. Seriously, that's all he can do. Yeah,
you know, dude, strike out? Can you strike out double digits?
And and have you know one earned run and you know,
two hits maybe, and they'll lose. He'll end up with
a record of five and twelve.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
He has a five and eight record right now with
an ERA of one point nine to one. That's hard
to do for it seem to be that bad to
have someone be that dominant and.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Still be five zero games. Did they lose?
Speaker 4 (45:28):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
He could win the cy Young with a losing record.
He probably should because records don't matter, right, records don't
matter anymore. Julio Urias knows that ain't that twenty game
twenty game winner.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Okay, uh, when we come back, Vinnie Bonn signor will
join the program and we'll get into NFL training camps.
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