July 25, 2025 • 41 mins
Based on Andrew Freidman's recent comments, it seems like the Dodgers are banking on their own players improving (and getting healthy) more than making any major moves in the trade market. USC is picked 9th while UCLA is picked 15th in the preseason Big 10 football poll - what does it mean?
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All right, here we go, Fred Rugan, Rodney Pete one
hour today the sprint is on on a five seventy
LA Sports Rodney. Dodgers opened a road trip there in Boston.
They are what, Yes, they are in Boston. Fred, it's
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a good thing. Why should a good thing? Well, you
know it is LA Boston is always good. Uh, Fred,
did you just see you know we were talking about
this the other day. I just had to bring it
up real quick. Uh, your boy Ryan McMahon is gone
to the Yankees. I didn't see that. Yes, gone gone.
How happy is he to be out of Colorado? Oh?
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This is one of the happy going to the Bronx.
I mean his wedding maybe if he has kids, the
birth of his kitch and this he's out. He's out, man.
I think the Yankees sniffed around that the Dodgers might
be looking at him and gobbled him up. Well, there's
one bat off the market.
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So the Yankees got a couple of minor league pitchers.
They have McMahon now for this year and two more.
Pretty good deal for them. A guy with a stick.
He hasn't torn the cover off this year, but certainly
he was one of the sought after hitters available. And
the Yankees struck first. Yeah, they did. Who's he replacing
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because I think Chisholm plays there a little bit right,
but he plays kind of all over. Yeah, Jazz plays
all over. I think he played second base a little
bit third base. And I just remember him from the
World Series when Bulti tried to throw the ball to
him and it just you know, it was a bad throw,
but still he didn't pick it. And that was the
part of that ugly fifth inning that the Yankees had.
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It will be etched in Dodger fan's mind forever. What
do you think that conversation was like with Ryan McMahon,
You got to make it. Come on into the office.
I got to tell you something. What do you think
what do you think his reaction was when they told him, well,
you're getting traded, oh okay to the Yankees. What do
you think it was? I think, well, first of all,
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I think if his agent told him first, which probably
easily happens. If the agent told him first, he got
the call and was going crazy, yelling, yelling, And I
think if the once the Rockies informed him, I think
outwardly he might have been ah man, Inside, he went crazy,
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He went nuts. He jumping up and down inside and
didn't probably didn't want the Rockies to see it. But man, yeah,
he just yeah, he struck gold. He would he say
he's got left He's got two years lefty after this?
Whe Yeah. So yeah, going from Colorado plan in that
environment and then going to the Yankees, it's got to be,
oh my god, I just hit the lotto. Yeah, but
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you have to figure this. And again, he did not
have a great first half of the season. He hit
a couple of home runs after the All Star break.
He was an All Star last year. You have to
figure this, who would you rather have if you're the
Dodgers and this guy's healthy. Ryan McMahon or Max Munsey,
I think you would go with the known commodity of
Max Munsey in this situation. Yeah, absolutely, all right, So
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did the Dodgers lose out? Probably not. Did the Yankees
get stronger? We'll find out. Is one guy celebrating one
of the greatest moments of his life. Definitely. It's Ryan
McMahon and he's out of Colorado. Let me give you
a name. I read about this last night and I thought, Hm,
that's interesting. If they actually made this move, I don't
know if it'll happen because there's a lot of speculation
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at this time outfielders, even quantity Indians. He's a bad boy.
Hit a home run yesterday. I saw that. Yeah, he's
a bad boy. I like him a lot. I like
his game, like his attitude. I like everything about him.
I really do. He's a he's a he's a difference
maker for that team. I mean, he he had talked
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about a whole lot, but I think he is one
of their top two or three guys that he that
they depend on with the Indians, yeah, or the Guardians.
So I saw that Yester and I thought, that's interesting.
What would Cleveland trained him? I don't know, but that
would be interesting. And that would be the kind of
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guy that Dodgers would take a run at if if
they had the opportunity. And he's a left handed hitter,
right right and got some pop to him too. Did
you see Diamondbacks lost their first baseman in Naylor. I
couldn't believe that. I couldn't believe it either. What are
they doing? What are they doing? I I was really surprised.
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You know, they acquired him during the off season from
Cleveland and I played fantasy baseball. Actually have him on
my team this year. That guy's having a good year,
a really good year. Yea. He is the league too.
He has a brother in the league too, doesn't Yeah
he does. Yeah. Yeah, but for you to move him,
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that tells me you might get waving a white flag
on this. Yeah, you're giving up on the season. Yeah.
I was shocked when I heard that, because he's one
of your power guys in your lineup. That is, like
you said, having a good year too. Why would you
give something like that up? Well, then that leads to
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this the third baseman, sware is why are they going
to give him up again? Yes, I mean you're talking
about two you know, the corner infielders that are having
good years. You know, Swarers obviously, you know, going crazy
with home runs. But both of those guys are I mean,
big time guys in your lineup. Offensively, they deliver. So
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you know the fact that even talking swore because they
were talking Suare is that his name was flying all
over the place. I didn't hear about Naylor as much,
did you know? It really surprised me. It's kind of
like they're going, Okay, Corbin Burns got hurt, and you know,
we're looking up and maybe we can get there. Maybe
we can't, So we'll just retool this thing right now.
I mean they still have Corpyn Carroll, they have Perdomo,
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they have Cotel Marte. They've got guys that can play.
But that was their power aside from Corpyn Carroll, that
was their power. Yeah, And so we'll see if Suarez
goes next where how far are they back trying to
check it out real quick? Are they Let's see? There
are they are ten games out? What about the wild
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card and wild Card? I don't even think they're close
in the Wildcard. Oh they might be, because you got
the Philly, you got Chicago. Now that Milwaukee's overtaken them.
I'll tell you they're closing. Yeah, yeah, they're close. Actually
is the next one. They're five games out. Okay, okay,
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that's interesting. There are five games because you got San
Diego and San Francisco gonna be in it too, So
that's the problem, all right. But then there's a vision.
They got two guys, so they're looking at it and going,
we can't we can't do it. That's what they're doing.
We can't make it. So let's make some moves, bring
some younger players in here, and live to fight another season.
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If we get hot, we get hot. But that's what
we're trying to do. And it's funny. Arizona's five games
back in the wild card in the American League. The
Angel of five and a half games back, the Angel
will probably hold serve. We're going for it. Hey, we're
we're alive. Where in the National League Arizona saying, well,
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let's see what we can get here. Five games back
on a division and we're five games out of the
wild card. So yeah, for us, that's going for it.
That's smoke, that's that's uh. We can taste it right now.
We can taste it. If you're the Angels striking distance
for it. Striking distance maybe, right. Okay, so that's what
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Arizona's doing. So now we go back to the Dodgers,
the Stephen Kuan possibility.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
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Speaker 1 (08:23):
Andrew Friedman now said, first of all, what about these
woes the Dodgers are going through, And let's be honest,
they are real woes. They don't look very good and
Mookie's not even there. Mookey's out for personal reasons. It's
It's funny when you think of Mookie in La do
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you think he's always played for the Dodgers. Yeah, it
kind of feels that way, doesn't it doesn't it. Yeah,
kind of feels like he came up through the system
and he's the he was a young phenom and and
now he's in his tenth year with the Dodgers. Yeah,
it feels like that. Right. Of course, he played for
the Red Sox. I know the people in Boston know
he played for the Red Sox, but I think if
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they're a casual fan, you think he's always been with
the Dodgers. And that's why with him at least sitting
out tonight, I was a bit surprised because they're back
in Boston and those people do know them, and I
think they would treat him kindly there. They liked Mookie
and Boston. Yeah, yeah, they did. No, he was their superstar.
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You know. They won the World Series. And that's the
thing Dodger fan, and we say this all the time,
fred they win the World Series, they break it all up.
They don't go they're not trying to go back to back.
They're not trying to do you know, let's go three
pete or anything like that. And that's the difference, you know,
with with organizations. They blew it up. They won the
World Series, beat the Dodgers obviously, still a bad taste,
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not as bad as the Astros, but a bad taste.
And they got hot at that year. Remember they got
hot at the right time. And it was a guy
that got that won the MVP that just went crazy
with home runs. I forget his name, but they got
hot at the right time. But they blew up the
team after that. And can you imagine the Dodgers doing that.
You imagine the Dodgers after last year. Okay, uh, we're
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gonna deal, Freddie. We're gonna deal half a dozen guys
because we gotta, you know, we gotta think about ten
years from now that would never happen. No, no, no,
but they did in Boston and that's how we ended
up with Mookie. But he's not playing tonight. Yeah, I know. Well,
I mean, I'm sure we'll hear about it and what's
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going on, but hopefully everything's okay and it's not something
that's medical or family medical or anything like that. So
hopefully all we know is personal reasons at this point.
So Andrew Freeman says, the best way to address the
situation with a team right now the issues is for
guys to get back to a semblance of normalcy. What
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he's saying is, yet, we know how good we are.
We know the team that we put out there every night.
They're just not on clicking out all cylinders for whatever reason,
they're just not playing the way they should. And that's
the way we're going to fix our situation by addressing
those issues and getting the guys back to a semblance
of normalcy. Is it that easy, Rodney, It's easy to say,
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hard to do. But the good part for the Dodgers
is that is a veteran team. It's not a young
team that hasn't kind of gone through this very often.
And you got to wonder what kind of mindsets some
young players have after going through big slumps or the
team is not playing well, can they come out and
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bring themselves out of it? But this Dodger team is
loaded with veterans that understand that. And another thing that
they have going for him is that he just won
the World Series. So they know how good they are.
They know and to a person, I mean, you could
see it in the postgame interviews. They all know that
they're not playing well and it's frustrating and they got
to pick it up. And and also the beauty of
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the Dodgers is that it doesn't take much for them
to get it going, because the lineup is so strong
and the depth is so strong. Is that I'm speaking
offensively right now, that it only takes a couple of
guys to get going, and that can be any guys
up and down the lineup. Tommy Edmonds could get going,
and Andy Potts can keep going, and and uh and
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Freddy and Mookie can struggle. You know, Otani never struggles,
and when he struggles, it's like, oh he went he
went one for four and only hit a double. That's
that's an old struggle. Oh he only got he only
hit two home runs this week, struggle, But they got
enough guys up and down that lineup that it only
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takes one or two guys to get hot and then
then they're off to the races. So yeah, I think
it's for the Dodgers, it's probably easier than other teams
to say, let's get back to normalty, let's get it
back to who we are, because they know who they
are and they just want it so they understand what
it takes to be a champion. As for the trade
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market for the Dodgers, Andrew Friedman said, what they would
do is they would go for it for a needle
moving player if they come available, a needle moving player.
So these aren't ancillary parts this year, fill in here,
filling there. It's got to be somebody that is somebody.
Let's think about that. Let's think about the needle moving
players that Dodgers acquired over the years. Manny Ramirez remember
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mid season got him, Manny Machado, need a moving guy,
maxN It, Max Schurzer, and Trey Turner, yep, needle moving guys.
So they have a track record of picking out those
guys that will move the needle yours when they got him,
you Darvish. Absolutely, I don't know who's out there or
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at least talked about unless we you know, we're missing
something and keeping it an incredible secret. But who's the
move who's the needle moving guys of the people we've
been talking about for this past week, Well, it depends
what you're looking for, Okay, pitching close Bedar needle moving,
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Gren needle moving, Stephen Kwan, Yeah, he'd be needle moving.
I would say that would be yeah, but those are
be the kind of guys. And I don't even know
if Bedenar is needle moving. I don't think so. I mean,
he's good. I like it, but I don't know he's
not sures they're coming in. He's not, you know, he's
not Uh who they who they pick up one year?
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I forget who it was. Yeah, he's not, uh class,
I would say class. I think it needle mover. Yeah,
I just don't know the name that are being thrown
out there right now that would move that needle. So again,
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it doesn't appear to be the we're gonna plug one
bullpen hole here according to what he's saying right now. Now.
Then again, he could say yeah, but you know, if
we acquire this reliever and we look at him a
seventh inning guy, he's a needle mover. So I mean,
it's just all in your definition. Yeah, but it's like
the Dodgers to say that, right, and he says, yeah,
it's got to be a new and they don't tell
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you who that particular needle moving guy is, and all
of a sudden, you hear Dodgers just got Manny Machado
or Dodgers got Manny Ramirez. Oh, Dodgers got Shurger. Wait
and Trey Turner. Baby, let's go for it. And that's
kind of way it is, right. It's just like they
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will spring it on you, like how did they get
that done? How did they make that happen? And they
make it happen. So what I was reading in the
Stephen Kwan deal, they would have to give a lot
to get him, you know, like James Outman their number
one prospect. I mean that kind of thing. It would
really cost to get a player like that. But now
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let's just talk about the current day guys right now,
the pitchers, because we kicked us around the other day
and now it seems to be true if in fact,
they're going to make a move and everybody is healthy.
And you kind of chuckle when you say that, because
one has everybody been healthy. So I guess what you're
hoping is everybody got hurt at the right time so
they can come back and be healthy. But let's say
they are. Yeah, I'm amoto struggled a bit lately, kershaw
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Otani Snell Glass now Sazaki. Well, there you go. If
everybody's healthy, there you go. So what does that mean
for Emmit Shehan? What does that mean for Dustin May?
Stand by? Or they may be dealt if they need
Like you said, if it is Steven Kwan who they're
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looking for, a left handed bat with some pop and
can play defensively, those guys may be on the table.
And that's what I'm starting to think. Yeah, those would
be the guys to go. Of those guys obviously, you know,
I think, you know, Dustin May would be the hardest
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to see Gaul, But you know, Ima Chian has done
himself a lot of favors because he's he's been pretty
good in the dotty uniform. I just I don't know
if is it worth it to give up Dustin May,
say for Stephen Kwan robably. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
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it is if for a guy like Stephen Kwan. Sure,
if he's available, if they're really talking to the Guardians.
And again to think about the Guardians, and this is
what everybody says. They're the toughest front office to deal
with in baseball. Not going to be easy. This is
not going to be Hey, Joe, what are you thinking, Yeah,
let's make this deal. No, that's not how they operate.
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They're pretty tough to deal with. And Kwan is a
very good player. If they brought him in here right now,
if Stephen Kuan was playing right now for the Dodgers
in the outfield, he'd be their best hitting outfielder right
now at the moment, at the moment, at the moment, Yeah,
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I was gonna say, wait to ask her. Pretty good
when he's good, Yeah, but task's not right. He's struggling,
and I think he's hurt. Yeah, there's something wrong. So
Stephen Kuan would be their best hitting outfielder if they
brought him in. But then you have to give something up, right.
I think Dustin May would be the guy. Let's not
forget what Tony Gonsolar. Remember he was pitching that he
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hurt himself. Waits Yeah, is he expected back anytime soon?
I don't know. I haven't heard a peep about him, right,
but he's still around. Yeah, it's still pretty good. Let
me ask you. Let me ask you this. Obviously they
like Robleski. Yeah. You know, he's got that one way
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ticket to Oklahoma City and back again. He's got a
round trip. So if if a team like Cleveland says okay, yeah, Kwan,
it's gonna take four four to get them. We're taking Robleski,
We're taking Dustin May, we're taking your number one pick,
your number one prospect and somebody else. Would you trade
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them both? Would you trade because somebody wants Dustin May
and Robeski you're saying for Kwan, Yeah, you Now that
you bring it up about Tony Gonson, I would find
out what the deal is first, is he coming back
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to give you some cushion? If he is, and yeah,
then then those other guys become expended a little bit.
What's your trade, Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin, and Robleski in
the same deal, all three and assuming the demon May,
he said, who Gonsolin May and Robleski? Who? That's all
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that's an overhaul to just get one guy to get Kwan.
You're saying something like that, Oh, that's an awful lot
to give up, Fred, an awful lot. That's an awful
lot to give up for for one guy. And I like,
you know, you're wrong. We've just been talking about I
like Kwan, But is he that guy? Is? Yeah? Is
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he really that guy? He's good? But is he really
that guy? Is he Manny Ramirez that's gonna come in
and hit fifty home runs from the trade deadline to
the end of the season. No, but is he solid
and will definitely help you in the multi tool player. Yeah,
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but that's an awful lot to give up Dustin May
and Gonsoling and you said Robletski too. Yeah, I don't
know if I make that deal. Well, here's the thing,
and Andrew Friedman is pretty adept at this because you're
not desperate though. That's the other thing, Fred, No, you
know they need a guy, but they're not desperate. Guys
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are awful little bit and you know guys are coming
back from injuries, but they're not desperate. You know they're
not desperate. But you still got you know, Kyk is
coming back at some point, I think, you know, obstacles.
You know, he's okay, but he's coming back, and he's
a guy that you know, September October roll around. He's
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a guy you want in the lineup, and you're gonna
find a way to get him some bats. That's true.
That's true. They're not desperate to do this deal. As
much as Confortos struggled, and you know, they've had some
issues defense and the outfield, and ti Oscar's struggling. I
get it, But even with all of that, they're not
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a desperate team at this point. Well, we know when
the trade deadline is, but the games have already begun,
and that's what interests me. Yankees made a move already, yea, Arizona, Seattle,
they traded with each other. They've made a move. So
now it comes down to this. And Andrew Freeman's pretty
good at this now. Even the Flairty move, what that
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happened like five minutes the deadline, that's right. I forgot
about that one. How good was he for the Dodgers
in his moments, right, and when they played in the
Championship series games that he threw, well, he went like
I think he went like seven and a half or
seven in the third and gave up only one run.
I mean it was he had a phenomenal playoff run. Yeah,
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I don't know. I don't know if you give up
those three guys. Well, here's the thing, if anything happens,
if anything happens, it may not happen on the very end,
because that's what he does, you darbagh last hour? That
was that was a eleventh hour deal. Sures are close
to the last hour. Yeah, so he you know, he's
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not gonna jump out here tomorrow and make a move
unless somebody really knocks his socks off. How about this
is a whole Now it just goes to show you
how baseball is kind of evolving and it's gonna in
a renaissance and starting to get it. I guess like
NBA and NFL they got a whole show about the
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trade deadline on MLB network. Now, the trade deadline show,
you're just going to broadcast a show talking about who
got traded who didn't get traded. So, I mean, it's
just they they are. Baseball is in a good place
right now. And then see that's the kind of show
I would watch. I like that. Yeah, right, I like
putting the pieces together and who could go where and
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the strategy behind it. Yeah, and like you said, he
comes down to you know, the eleventh hour, and then
there's there's fifteen more minutes on the clock and uh oh,
we're hearing something. And then you get to old school.
Oh oh, the guy puts his hand up to the ear.
I'm hearing something. Oh, there's some grumbling in New York. Well,
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You know what it is because it's Friday. That's right.
Rodney P. Fred Rogan on a beautiful Friday. We got
out one hour spread today, so we're rolling. Let's go Freddy,
all right, how would you sum up Lincoln Riley's first
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years at usc UH. I think the first year was impressive,
and in second year somewhat impressive but a little bit
disappointing down the stretch. And then I think last year
was definitely disappointing. I think the way they started and
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and and really had a I think they had a
real you know, beating LSU and then beat and then
having a shot I think, and right in the game
in Michigan, I think, you know, played it down to
the wire, had a chance to win that game. That
game goes differently. I think Miller Moss is still the
quarterback and they they have a different type of season.
But it was disappointing going seven and six. That's just
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for usc that's that's unacceptable. But they were in a
lot of games, even Penn State. I thought they should
have beat them here at the Coliseum. That they had
them on the ropes last year, but that's not good enough.
You can't just have them on the ropes. You gotta
win at see, especially when games get close or you're
in a tight ball game in the fourth. You got
to win those games, and they lost far too many
of those last year. Okay, So you say, summed up
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the years individually and the totality of Lincoln Riley State
at USC, I would kind of say, blah blah. Not great,
not by any stretch of the imagination. Not awful, but
certainly below USC standards. He's Clay Helton, him named Lincoln
Riley and makes more money. Uh yeah, well, no, that
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that's what the record says. I'm not saying record says that. Yeah,
that's what That's what we're going to base it on. Yeah, okay,
so this year yeah, yeah, so you know, again it
is blah because it is USC and and certain things
are unacceptable. But I don't think they were that far off,
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you know, was it three years now, his first year.
I don't think they were that far off. Yeah, lost
some games, and I think there were some glaring issues
and have been some glaring issues in his first three
years that they've they've had to address, especially the defense,
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and they did that and they brought in the out
and then new defensive coordinator and did some things. And
they think he was loyal to a fault with some
of his coaching staff and some of the things that
were happening. So hopefully that's rectified now. But there's high hopes,
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high hopes for the Trojans. Really, Oh okay, well, they're
picking the finished ninth in the Big Ten preseason rank.
I don't believe any of that. Who cares? I don't care.
Do you care a little bit? I care a little bit, Yeah,
because they're pick to finished ninth. Yeah, I care a
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little bit. Yeah I do. I don't think that's good.
Maybe not, but that you still got to play the game.
You still got hunter, You got to play it. And
it's not you know, no easy schedule by any shape
of the matter. And there there will be no easy
schedules going forward for USC or anything, Oregon or anybody anymore.
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Right now that they joined the Big Ten U S C, U,
C l A, Oregon, Washington, there there are no there
are no cupcakes anymore. I mean, you still got to
play teams like Indiana or Wisconsin, who's always gonna go
and fight hard, and and and and make it a battle.
Not to mention Ohio State, Michigan. I think they got
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Michigan out here though this year, which is a good thing. Well,
so we'll see. But yeah, and I think also even
though Jayden you know Maeva, showed some signs of of
of being really good, he also made some mistakes. I mean,
think about it. The Notre Dame game had him on
the ropes going in to win it, and and the
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pick at the end that went the pick six on
that went ninety something yards at the at the end
of that game, as he was right there. And I
think that sometimes when you don't have or either have
the established quarterback coming back, there's not the hype around
of Caleb Williams type at quarterback, then people are still skeptical, skeptical.
(30:20):
I can't even say it skeptical about your about your team,
because you know it's still the jury is still out
on him and how how much improvement is he going
to have this year in twenty five and it's still
you know, you still you still wonder about that. But
I think having played, you know, a few games last
(30:42):
year is really really going to help him this year.
If link Larry Zuker, my friend, just texted me, if
Lincoln Riley wanted to leave, would you stop him? If
he wanted to leave, would you stop him. Yeah, who's
coming in the door? I don't know. You better have
(31:03):
somebody coming in the door. You better have somebody ready
to ready to go. Yeah, I would stop him. I wouldn't,
but because we don't know who else is going to
be given what he's done. Yeah, you can't stop him
because he does have a track record of winning, and
and so I would. I would stop him and allow
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him to try to build something here. First of all,
he's not going anywhere anywhere, and that with the record
compiled here, with with the with the nil money that
they got to shovel out and pay out, and you know,
the possible partnership now with the players and the student
athletes excuse me, athlete students, and his salary, you know,
(31:49):
the buyout is going to be crazy. So you he's
not going anywhere. And plus you know he's the one
that was the driving force for the new facilities at
USC which you know, two hundred million dollars to what
they're they're doing over there to make it competitive to
all of these other schools around the country, the Ohio State's,
the Oregons, and Michigan's and and you know, Penn State,
(32:13):
Notre Dame those Alabama Texas big schools like that that
have crazy sports complexes for their for their athletic program,
especially football. So he was the catalyst behind that. So
he's not going anywhere anytime soon. All right, Well, anyway,
they're picked ninth in the Big Ten preseason rankings. Pardon me,
(32:35):
we're going right now. Okay, you can't just pick on USC, friend, No, no, no,
We're going right over to the other side. Now, okay,
because these are big years. By the way, it's your
two of the Big ten. Big you think it's a
big year for Deshaun Foster in his second year at UCLA,
critical year or no? No, I think he gets a
(32:55):
third no matter what. Yeah, I hope, so I think
he does. He's in a tough situation and that's why.
That's exactly why. I mean, he's in a very difficult situation.
So look at the Big ten USC UCLA fitting in
in years past. They might have been scary going into
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the Big Ten. They're not. They're not scary. They're an
average Big ten team. Sorry, Rodney, it's true, except for UCLA.
Ucla is not an average Big ten team. UCLA is
a bad Big Ten team. They are picked and finish
fifteenth in the preseason rankings. Fifteenth out of fifteen, I
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think out of fourteenth. They're picked to finish fifteenth out
of eighteenth out of eighteen. When you're fifteenth, does it matter?
They're eighteen teams in the big team now yeah, wow, interesting?
Well yeah, and it's gotten better. Look last year Indiana, Indiana.
(34:05):
Didn't Indiana make the playoffs? I think they did? Yeah,
they did, absolutely, yeah, yeah, I mean Indiana. It is
not a team you think about it a big ten.
You're thinking about you know, Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State,
and you know Wisconsin from time to time is always
going to be pretty good. Iowa. I mean, I think
about Indiana, but that's a good team. Northwestern puts together
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a good team from time to time. So there's no again,
there's no cupcakes. But fifteenth, Oh, who's picked a minute? Michigan,
I mean Ohio State. Yeah, here's the thing. I mean,
you can go, oh god, fifteenth, that's awful. USC at
nine isn't very good. No, And it just tells us
(34:49):
that the two teams out here, these two schools at
this point, hopefully not for long, but at this point
simply are quick to play with the big boys. That's
what it says. They're not equipped to play with the
big boys. For UCLA to be ranked fifteenth, you should
move to the Mountain West Conferences. Flows, Fred, It's Ebbs
(35:15):
and Flows. I'll tell you what. It's been happening a
lot longer for UCLA. And they their athletic department is
in the red. They're a state school. The Border regents
made him pay col bag money to go to the
Big ten. That's a terrible that was a terrible deal.
It's awful. I mean, you know, there's especially in a
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day and age where you got to raise money, you
got to pay you know, the nil, and you got
to be able to be competitive from a financial standpoint,
and they're cutting their legs off by having to pay
col That was horrible. Well, the question becomes do you
want to be competitive? That's really the question in college
sports today. Now USC wants to be competitive and they'll
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raise the money, but then it comes down to if
you have the money and the players and you don't win.
Is Lincoln Rightley the guy on the other side Ucla.
It's like Little Sisters of the Poor, It's like goodwill.
Can you drop something off to help us out here.
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They don't have the cash. And if you don't have
the cash in today's collegiate athletics, you're not committed. You're
just not. And if you're not committed, then don't give
the indication you are. Don't try to fool people. Don't
give the impression we're in it because you're not. Because now,
the only thing that really matters in the world of
athlete students is you've got to win. You got to
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win in football, or you gotta be there. You got
to win in basketball, or you got to be there.
You got to be in the conversation because if you're not,
I would think your nil money is going to lessen
because people want to pay for success.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
There's still a level of prosige that goes with being
in a conference like the Big Ten. You'd rather be
the shortest person in the room in the Big Ten
than the tallest in the Mountain West. That's pretty ridiculous
to say that they'd rather go to the Mountain West. Well,
what you said, Kevin, Vanderbilt cleans up in the SEC
and they are never gonna win anything.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
You'd rather be Vanderbilt than be Boise State.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, so, I'll say I'm looking at it just from
football too, you seel it is about you know, basketball wise,
especially women's basketball. It might be picked to win it
very good and a lot of the other sports, you know.
So yeah, Fred suggests they want to go to the
Mountain West. May ye, I'll be ashamed of yourself.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
There are still gonna be kids who want to play
for the worst Big Ten team that would never want
to play for the best Mountain West or Sun Belt
or anybody else.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, but if you'll use see la Kevin, you don't
want to be the worst Big Ten team.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
No, I'm not saying you want to be there, but
the idea of like.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Okay, so they want to be there, we can.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Move down a level and dominate. Okay, sure you can,
but why would you want to do that?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Why would you want to be in a place where,
in theory you can't compete.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
That's because it's in theory. There's no there's no saying
that they can't. Exactly, they can't. It's going to be
a little bit more difficult for them. Boy, the way,
the fact that they're in the red, they're going to
get a giant influx of money even by just being
in the Big ten money they would not get from
going to another conference. So there's that. Is it going
to be a more more of a difficult trek. Yeah,
But to say they should move down a level, no,
they would ever do.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
That makes regulation deals again. Right, they should be regulated.
It's terrible. They should be regulated to the new old
PAC twelve. You're a communist, Fred, Well, that's the nicest
thing anybody said to me today. Shark shows, who are
(38:45):
back to wrap it up after this? That's right, we're
back Quick show today. Roddy beat Fred Rogan. On Friday,
Dodgers are in Boston. It's supposed to be raining there. Huh.
A little thunderstorms going on off and on a little bit,
but it gets to stop right now. So we got
(39:06):
word to be ready to go longer today, Kevin. Have
you been monitoring that? But uh, we're clearer. We can
get out of here when it's time.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
To the best of my knowledge, we're good to go.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
They had a bit of a thunderstorm front that's rolling
through Boston right now, but from all indications are everything
will be fine. The game will start as schedule.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
All right, Well, that's good news. You'll hear it here
on the radio station emmachen on the Mound tonight, and
I guess, yeah, maybe just get rid of a lot
of guys. You're trying to get rid of them. No,
I'm not guys in Mount. He's listening to the show
and you're trying to get rid of him. Fred kind
of guy? Are you?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
But I mean to get something, you have to give something.
It's just what do you have to give? For him?
Every game in the Mount is an audition, either to
remain in the Dodger rotation, which will be completely impossible
if or when everybody is healthy that's big, or if
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he can't. These are showcases for him. They're showcases. Mm hmm.
You know if if they make a move, if they
pull the trigger, and if he's not gonna be in
the Dodger rotation. Everybody loves him and we know he
can pitch. Wouldn't it be better to see him go
somewhere where he can really pitch and have a good
(40:23):
time instead of sitting here? Yeah? Of course for him personally, yeah, selfishly, yeah,
you want He would want that too. I want to
go somewhere I can be a regular starter and pitch
on a regular basis. But for for the Dodgers, you know,
it's a uh, it's a comfort blanket for them, you know,
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to have a guy like that that can you know
that they can count on. And uh, he's been good
for the Dodgers, So it's it's a tough situation for
him to be in though you know, I get it.
You want to you want to be secure, and you
want to know. This is my my gear, big, my home.
I'm going out every fifth start and doing my thing.
But that sometimes is not the case. And maybe it
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will be some point and maybe you know, in his mind, yeah,
I love the Dodgers, but maybe it Tray would be
good for me. So we'll find out what happens. Emma
Sheeen goes on the hill and we'll see what happens.
Next week's short shows for us as well, because the
Dodgers are on the road in the East and the
Central time zone, so we're gonna we're gonna cram it
(41:27):
into one hour each and every day. We're gonna load
it up and let it go. Ronnie, thanks for great week.
Really appreciate it. Kevin, have a terrific weekend. Our best
to Oliver and Rodney. You have a good weekend. We
do it one day, Red
All right, here we go, Fred Rugan, Rodney Pete one
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They are what, Yes, they are in Boston. Fred, it's
(00:21):
a good thing. Why should a good thing? Well, you
know it is LA Boston is always good. Uh, Fred,
did you just see you know we were talking about
this the other day. I just had to bring it
up real quick. Uh, your boy Ryan McMahon is gone
to the Yankees. I didn't see that. Yes, gone gone.
How happy is he to be out of Colorado? Oh?
(00:43):
This is one of the happy going to the Bronx.
I mean his wedding maybe if he has kids, the
birth of his kitch and this he's out. He's out, man.
I think the Yankees sniffed around that the Dodgers might
be looking at him and gobbled him up. Well, there's
one bat off the market.
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So the Yankees got a couple of minor league pitchers.
They have McMahon now for this year and two more.
Pretty good deal for them. A guy with a stick.
He hasn't torn the cover off this year, but certainly
he was one of the sought after hitters available. And
the Yankees struck first. Yeah, they did. Who's he replacing
(01:52):
because I think Chisholm plays there a little bit right,
but he plays kind of all over. Yeah, Jazz plays
all over. I think he played second base a little
bit third base. And I just remember him from the
World Series when Bulti tried to throw the ball to
him and it just you know, it was a bad throw,
but still he didn't pick it. And that was the
part of that ugly fifth inning that the Yankees had.
(02:13):
It will be etched in Dodger fan's mind forever. What
do you think that conversation was like with Ryan McMahon,
You got to make it. Come on into the office.
I got to tell you something. What do you think
what do you think his reaction was when they told him, well,
you're getting traded, oh okay to the Yankees. What do
you think it was? I think, well, first of all,
(02:34):
I think if his agent told him first, which probably
easily happens. If the agent told him first, he got
the call and was going crazy, yelling, yelling, And I
think if the once the Rockies informed him, I think
outwardly he might have been ah man, Inside, he went crazy,
(02:54):
He went nuts. He jumping up and down inside and
didn't probably didn't want the Rockies to see it. But man, yeah,
he just yeah, he struck gold. He would he say
he's got left He's got two years lefty after this?
Whe Yeah. So yeah, going from Colorado plan in that
environment and then going to the Yankees, it's got to be,
oh my god, I just hit the lotto. Yeah, but
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you have to figure this. And again, he did not
have a great first half of the season. He hit
a couple of home runs after the All Star break.
He was an All Star last year. You have to
figure this, who would you rather have if you're the
Dodgers and this guy's healthy. Ryan McMahon or Max Munsey,
I think you would go with the known commodity of
Max Munsey in this situation. Yeah, absolutely, all right, So
(03:38):
did the Dodgers lose out? Probably not. Did the Yankees
get stronger? We'll find out. Is one guy celebrating one
of the greatest moments of his life. Definitely. It's Ryan
McMahon and he's out of Colorado. Let me give you
a name. I read about this last night and I thought, Hm,
that's interesting. If they actually made this move, I don't
know if it'll happen because there's a lot of speculation
(03:58):
at this time outfielders, even quantity Indians. He's a bad boy.
Hit a home run yesterday. I saw that. Yeah, he's
a bad boy. I like him a lot. I like
his game, like his attitude. I like everything about him.
I really do. He's a he's a he's a difference
maker for that team. I mean, he he had talked
(04:19):
about a whole lot, but I think he is one
of their top two or three guys that he that
they depend on with the Indians, yeah, or the Guardians.
So I saw that Yester and I thought, that's interesting.
What would Cleveland trained him? I don't know, but that
would be interesting. And that would be the kind of
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guy that Dodgers would take a run at if if
they had the opportunity. And he's a left handed hitter,
right right and got some pop to him too. Did
you see Diamondbacks lost their first baseman in Naylor. I
couldn't believe that. I couldn't believe it either. What are
they doing? What are they doing? I I was really surprised.
(05:01):
You know, they acquired him during the off season from
Cleveland and I played fantasy baseball. Actually have him on
my team this year. That guy's having a good year,
a really good year. Yea. He is the league too.
He has a brother in the league too, doesn't Yeah
he does. Yeah. Yeah, but for you to move him,
(05:21):
that tells me you might get waving a white flag
on this. Yeah, you're giving up on the season. Yeah.
I was shocked when I heard that, because he's one
of your power guys in your lineup. That is, like
you said, having a good year too. Why would you
give something like that up? Well, then that leads to
(05:42):
this the third baseman, sware is why are they going
to give him up again? Yes, I mean you're talking
about two you know, the corner infielders that are having
good years. You know, Swarers obviously, you know, going crazy
with home runs. But both of those guys are I mean,
big time guys in your lineup. Offensively, they deliver. So
(06:07):
you know the fact that even talking swore because they
were talking Suare is that his name was flying all
over the place. I didn't hear about Naylor as much,
did you know? It really surprised me. It's kind of
like they're going, Okay, Corbin Burns got hurt, and you know,
we're looking up and maybe we can get there. Maybe
we can't, So we'll just retool this thing right now.
I mean they still have Corpyn Carroll, they have Perdomo,
(06:29):
they have Cotel Marte. They've got guys that can play.
But that was their power aside from Corpyn Carroll, that
was their power. Yeah, And so we'll see if Suarez
goes next where how far are they back trying to
check it out real quick? Are they Let's see? There
are they are ten games out? What about the wild
(06:51):
card and wild Card? I don't even think they're close
in the Wildcard. Oh they might be, because you got
the Philly, you got Chicago. Now that Milwaukee's overtaken them.
I'll tell you they're closing. Yeah, yeah, they're close. Actually
is the next one. They're five games out. Okay, okay,
(07:15):
that's interesting. There are five games because you got San
Diego and San Francisco gonna be in it too, So
that's the problem, all right. But then there's a vision.
They got two guys, so they're looking at it and going,
we can't we can't do it. That's what they're doing.
We can't make it. So let's make some moves, bring
some younger players in here, and live to fight another season.
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If we get hot, we get hot. But that's what
we're trying to do. And it's funny. Arizona's five games
back in the wild card in the American League. The
Angel of five and a half games back, the Angel
will probably hold serve. We're going for it. Hey, we're
we're alive. Where in the National League Arizona saying, well,
(07:56):
let's see what we can get here. Five games back
on a division and we're five games out of the
wild card. So yeah, for us, that's going for it.
That's smoke, that's that's uh. We can taste it right now.
We can taste it. If you're the Angels striking distance
for it. Striking distance maybe, right. Okay, so that's what
(08:17):
Arizona's doing. So now we go back to the Dodgers,
the Stephen Kuan possibility.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Andrew Friedman now said, first of all, what about these
woes the Dodgers are going through, And let's be honest,
they are real woes. They don't look very good and
Mookie's not even there. Mookey's out for personal reasons. It's
It's funny when you think of Mookie in La do
(08:43):
you think he's always played for the Dodgers. Yeah, it
kind of feels that way, doesn't it doesn't it. Yeah,
kind of feels like he came up through the system
and he's the he was a young phenom and and
now he's in his tenth year with the Dodgers. Yeah,
it feels like that. Right. Of course, he played for
the Red Sox. I know the people in Boston know
he played for the Red Sox, but I think if
(09:05):
they're a casual fan, you think he's always been with
the Dodgers. And that's why with him at least sitting
out tonight, I was a bit surprised because they're back
in Boston and those people do know them, and I
think they would treat him kindly there. They liked Mookie
and Boston. Yeah, yeah, they did. No, he was their superstar.
(09:25):
You know. They won the World Series. And that's the
thing Dodger fan, and we say this all the time,
fred they win the World Series, they break it all up.
They don't go they're not trying to go back to back.
They're not trying to do you know, let's go three
pete or anything like that. And that's the difference, you know,
with with organizations. They blew it up. They won the
World Series, beat the Dodgers obviously, still a bad taste,
(09:47):
not as bad as the Astros, but a bad taste.
And they got hot at that year. Remember they got
hot at the right time. And it was a guy
that got that won the MVP that just went crazy
with home runs. I forget his name, but they got
hot at the right time. But they blew up the
team after that. And can you imagine the Dodgers doing that.
You imagine the Dodgers after last year. Okay, uh, we're
(10:11):
gonna deal, Freddie. We're gonna deal half a dozen guys
because we gotta, you know, we gotta think about ten
years from now that would never happen. No, no, no,
but they did in Boston and that's how we ended
up with Mookie. But he's not playing tonight. Yeah, I know. Well,
I mean, I'm sure we'll hear about it and what's
(10:33):
going on, but hopefully everything's okay and it's not something
that's medical or family medical or anything like that. So
hopefully all we know is personal reasons at this point.
So Andrew Freeman says, the best way to address the
situation with a team right now the issues is for
guys to get back to a semblance of normalcy. What
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he's saying is, yet, we know how good we are.
We know the team that we put out there every night.
They're just not on clicking out all cylinders for whatever reason,
they're just not playing the way they should. And that's
the way we're going to fix our situation by addressing
those issues and getting the guys back to a semblance
of normalcy. Is it that easy, Rodney, It's easy to say,
(11:18):
hard to do. But the good part for the Dodgers
is that is a veteran team. It's not a young
team that hasn't kind of gone through this very often.
And you got to wonder what kind of mindsets some
young players have after going through big slumps or the
team is not playing well, can they come out and
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bring themselves out of it? But this Dodger team is
loaded with veterans that understand that. And another thing that
they have going for him is that he just won
the World Series. So they know how good they are.
They know and to a person, I mean, you could
see it in the postgame interviews. They all know that
they're not playing well and it's frustrating and they got
to pick it up. And and also the beauty of
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the Dodgers is that it doesn't take much for them
to get it going, because the lineup is so strong
and the depth is so strong. Is that I'm speaking
offensively right now, that it only takes a couple of
guys to get going, and that can be any guys
up and down the lineup. Tommy Edmonds could get going,
and Andy Potts can keep going, and and uh and
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Freddy and Mookie can struggle. You know, Otani never struggles,
and when he struggles, it's like, oh he went he
went one for four and only hit a double. That's
that's an old struggle. Oh he only got he only
hit two home runs this week, struggle, But they got
enough guys up and down that lineup that it only
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takes one or two guys to get hot and then
then they're off to the races. So yeah, I think
it's for the Dodgers, it's probably easier than other teams
to say, let's get back to normalty, let's get it
back to who we are, because they know who they
are and they just want it so they understand what
it takes to be a champion. As for the trade
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market for the Dodgers, Andrew Friedman said, what they would
do is they would go for it for a needle
moving player if they come available, a needle moving player.
So these aren't ancillary parts this year, fill in here,
filling there. It's got to be somebody that is somebody.
Let's think about that. Let's think about the needle moving
players that Dodgers acquired over the years. Manny Ramirez remember
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mid season got him, Manny Machado, need a moving guy,
maxN It, Max Schurzer, and Trey Turner, yep, needle moving guys.
So they have a track record of picking out those
guys that will move the needle yours when they got him,
you Darvish. Absolutely, I don't know who's out there or
(14:01):
at least talked about unless we you know, we're missing
something and keeping it an incredible secret. But who's the
move who's the needle moving guys of the people we've
been talking about for this past week, Well, it depends
what you're looking for, Okay, pitching close Bedar needle moving,
(14:21):
Gren needle moving, Stephen Kwan, Yeah, he'd be needle moving.
I would say that would be yeah, but those are
be the kind of guys. And I don't even know
if Bedenar is needle moving. I don't think so. I mean,
he's good. I like it, but I don't know he's
not sures they're coming in. He's not, you know, he's
not Uh who they who they pick up one year?
(14:43):
I forget who it was. Yeah, he's not, uh class,
I would say class. I think it needle mover. Yeah,
I just don't know the name that are being thrown
out there right now that would move that needle. So again,
(15:07):
it doesn't appear to be the we're gonna plug one
bullpen hole here according to what he's saying right now. Now.
Then again, he could say yeah, but you know, if
we acquire this reliever and we look at him a
seventh inning guy, he's a needle mover. So I mean,
it's just all in your definition. Yeah, but it's like
the Dodgers to say that, right, and he says, yeah,
it's got to be a new and they don't tell
(15:28):
you who that particular needle moving guy is, and all
of a sudden, you hear Dodgers just got Manny Machado
or Dodgers got Manny Ramirez. Oh, Dodgers got Shurger. Wait
and Trey Turner. Baby, let's go for it. And that's
kind of way it is, right. It's just like they
(15:49):
will spring it on you, like how did they get
that done? How did they make that happen? And they
make it happen. So what I was reading in the
Stephen Kwan deal, they would have to give a lot
to get him, you know, like James Outman their number
one prospect. I mean that kind of thing. It would
really cost to get a player like that. But now
(16:10):
let's just talk about the current day guys right now,
the pitchers, because we kicked us around the other day
and now it seems to be true if in fact,
they're going to make a move and everybody is healthy.
And you kind of chuckle when you say that, because
one has everybody been healthy. So I guess what you're
hoping is everybody got hurt at the right time so
they can come back and be healthy. But let's say
they are. Yeah, I'm amoto struggled a bit lately, kershaw
(16:36):
Otani Snell Glass now Sazaki. Well, there you go. If
everybody's healthy, there you go. So what does that mean
for Emmit Shehan? What does that mean for Dustin May?
Stand by? Or they may be dealt if they need
Like you said, if it is Steven Kwan who they're
(16:57):
looking for, a left handed bat with some pop and
can play defensively, those guys may be on the table.
And that's what I'm starting to think. Yeah, those would
be the guys to go. Of those guys obviously, you know,
I think, you know, Dustin May would be the hardest
(17:18):
to see Gaul, But you know, Ima Chian has done
himself a lot of favors because he's he's been pretty
good in the dotty uniform. I just I don't know
if is it worth it to give up Dustin May,
say for Stephen Kwan robably. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
(17:44):
it is if for a guy like Stephen Kwan. Sure,
if he's available, if they're really talking to the Guardians.
And again to think about the Guardians, and this is
what everybody says. They're the toughest front office to deal
with in baseball. Not going to be easy. This is
not going to be Hey, Joe, what are you thinking, Yeah,
let's make this deal. No, that's not how they operate.
(18:05):
They're pretty tough to deal with. And Kwan is a
very good player. If they brought him in here right now,
if Stephen Kuan was playing right now for the Dodgers
in the outfield, he'd be their best hitting outfielder right
now at the moment, at the moment, at the moment, Yeah,
(18:28):
I was gonna say, wait to ask her. Pretty good
when he's good, Yeah, but task's not right. He's struggling,
and I think he's hurt. Yeah, there's something wrong. So
Stephen Kuan would be their best hitting outfielder if they
brought him in. But then you have to give something up, right.
I think Dustin May would be the guy. Let's not
forget what Tony Gonsolar. Remember he was pitching that he
(18:49):
hurt himself. Waits Yeah, is he expected back anytime soon?
I don't know. I haven't heard a peep about him, right,
but he's still around. Yeah, it's still pretty good. Let
me ask you. Let me ask you this. Obviously they
like Robleski. Yeah. You know, he's got that one way
(19:10):
ticket to Oklahoma City and back again. He's got a
round trip. So if if a team like Cleveland says okay, yeah, Kwan,
it's gonna take four four to get them. We're taking Robleski,
We're taking Dustin May, we're taking your number one pick,
your number one prospect and somebody else. Would you trade
(19:31):
them both? Would you trade because somebody wants Dustin May
and Robeski you're saying for Kwan, Yeah, you Now that
you bring it up about Tony Gonson, I would find
out what the deal is first, is he coming back
(19:54):
to give you some cushion? If he is, and yeah,
then then those other guys become expended a little bit.
What's your trade, Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin, and Robleski in
the same deal, all three and assuming the demon May,
he said, who Gonsolin May and Robleski? Who? That's all
(20:15):
that's an overhaul to just get one guy to get Kwan.
You're saying something like that, Oh, that's an awful lot
to give up, Fred, an awful lot. That's an awful
lot to give up for for one guy. And I like,
you know, you're wrong. We've just been talking about I
like Kwan, But is he that guy? Is? Yeah? Is
(20:40):
he really that guy? He's good? But is he really
that guy? Is he Manny Ramirez that's gonna come in
and hit fifty home runs from the trade deadline to
the end of the season. No, but is he solid
and will definitely help you in the multi tool player. Yeah,
(21:01):
but that's an awful lot to give up Dustin May
and Gonsoling and you said Robletski too. Yeah, I don't
know if I make that deal. Well, here's the thing,
and Andrew Friedman is pretty adept at this because you're
not desperate though. That's the other thing, Fred, No, you
know they need a guy, but they're not desperate. Guys
(21:21):
are awful little bit and you know guys are coming
back from injuries, but they're not desperate. You know they're
not desperate. But you still got you know, Kyk is
coming back at some point, I think, you know, obstacles.
You know, he's okay, but he's coming back, and he's
a guy that you know, September October roll around. He's
(21:45):
a guy you want in the lineup, and you're gonna
find a way to get him some bats. That's true.
That's true. They're not desperate to do this deal. As
much as Confortos struggled, and you know, they've had some
issues defense and the outfield, and ti Oscar's struggling. I
get it, But even with all of that, they're not
(22:07):
a desperate team at this point. Well, we know when
the trade deadline is, but the games have already begun,
and that's what interests me. Yankees made a move already, yea, Arizona, Seattle,
they traded with each other. They've made a move. So
now it comes down to this. And Andrew Freeman's pretty
good at this now. Even the Flairty move, what that
(22:30):
happened like five minutes the deadline, that's right. I forgot
about that one. How good was he for the Dodgers
in his moments, right, and when they played in the
Championship series games that he threw, well, he went like
I think he went like seven and a half or
seven in the third and gave up only one run.
I mean it was he had a phenomenal playoff run. Yeah,
(22:56):
I don't know. I don't know if you give up
those three guys. Well, here's the thing, if anything happens,
if anything happens, it may not happen on the very end,
because that's what he does, you darbagh last hour? That
was that was a eleventh hour deal. Sures are close
to the last hour. Yeah, so he you know, he's
(23:18):
not gonna jump out here tomorrow and make a move
unless somebody really knocks his socks off. How about this
is a whole Now it just goes to show you
how baseball is kind of evolving and it's gonna in
a renaissance and starting to get it. I guess like
NBA and NFL they got a whole show about the
(23:39):
trade deadline on MLB network. Now, the trade deadline show,
you're just going to broadcast a show talking about who
got traded who didn't get traded. So, I mean, it's
just they they are. Baseball is in a good place
right now. And then see that's the kind of show
I would watch. I like that. Yeah, right, I like
putting the pieces together and who could go where and
(24:01):
the strategy behind it. Yeah, and like you said, he
comes down to you know, the eleventh hour, and then
there's there's fifteen more minutes on the clock and uh oh,
we're hearing something. And then you get to old school.
Oh oh, the guy puts his hand up to the ear.
I'm hearing something. Oh, there's some grumbling in New York. Well,
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You know what it is because it's Friday. That's right.
Rodney P. Fred Rogan on a beautiful Friday. We got
out one hour spread today, so we're rolling. Let's go Freddy,
all right, how would you sum up Lincoln Riley's first
(25:52):
years at usc UH. I think the first year was impressive,
and in second year somewhat impressive but a little bit
disappointing down the stretch. And then I think last year
was definitely disappointing. I think the way they started and
(26:15):
and and really had a I think they had a
real you know, beating LSU and then beat and then
having a shot I think, and right in the game
in Michigan, I think, you know, played it down to
the wire, had a chance to win that game. That
game goes differently. I think Miller Moss is still the
quarterback and they they have a different type of season.
But it was disappointing going seven and six. That's just
(26:36):
for usc that's that's unacceptable. But they were in a
lot of games, even Penn State. I thought they should
have beat them here at the Coliseum. That they had
them on the ropes last year, but that's not good enough.
You can't just have them on the ropes. You gotta
win at see, especially when games get close or you're
in a tight ball game in the fourth. You got
to win those games, and they lost far too many
of those last year. Okay, So you say, summed up
(27:00):
the years individually and the totality of Lincoln Riley State
at USC, I would kind of say, blah blah. Not great,
not by any stretch of the imagination. Not awful, but
certainly below USC standards. He's Clay Helton, him named Lincoln
Riley and makes more money. Uh yeah, well, no, that
(27:26):
that's what the record says. I'm not saying record says that. Yeah,
that's what That's what we're going to base it on. Yeah, okay,
so this year yeah, yeah, so you know, again it
is blah because it is USC and and certain things
are unacceptable. But I don't think they were that far off,
(27:50):
you know, was it three years now, his first year.
I don't think they were that far off. Yeah, lost
some games, and I think there were some glaring issues
and have been some glaring issues in his first three
years that they've they've had to address, especially the defense,
(28:11):
and they did that and they brought in the out
and then new defensive coordinator and did some things. And
they think he was loyal to a fault with some
of his coaching staff and some of the things that
were happening. So hopefully that's rectified now. But there's high hopes,
(28:33):
high hopes for the Trojans. Really, Oh okay, well, they're
picking the finished ninth in the Big Ten preseason rank.
I don't believe any of that. Who cares? I don't care.
Do you care a little bit? I care a little bit, Yeah,
because they're pick to finished ninth. Yeah, I care a
(28:55):
little bit. Yeah I do. I don't think that's good.
Maybe not, but that you still got to play the game.
You still got hunter, You got to play it. And
it's not you know, no easy schedule by any shape
of the matter. And there there will be no easy
schedules going forward for USC or anything, Oregon or anybody anymore.
(29:15):
Right now that they joined the Big Ten U S C, U,
C l A, Oregon, Washington, there there are no there
are no cupcakes anymore. I mean, you still got to
play teams like Indiana or Wisconsin, who's always gonna go
and fight hard, and and and and make it a battle.
Not to mention Ohio State, Michigan. I think they got
(29:35):
Michigan out here though this year, which is a good thing. Well,
so we'll see. But yeah, and I think also even
though Jayden you know Maeva, showed some signs of of
of being really good, he also made some mistakes. I mean,
think about it. The Notre Dame game had him on
the ropes going in to win it, and and the
(29:58):
pick at the end that went the pick six on
that went ninety something yards at the at the end
of that game, as he was right there. And I
think that sometimes when you don't have or either have
the established quarterback coming back, there's not the hype around
of Caleb Williams type at quarterback, then people are still skeptical, skeptical.
(30:20):
I can't even say it skeptical about your about your team,
because you know it's still the jury is still out
on him and how how much improvement is he going
to have this year in twenty five and it's still
you know, you still you still wonder about that. But
I think having played, you know, a few games last
(30:42):
year is really really going to help him this year.
If link Larry Zuker, my friend, just texted me, if
Lincoln Riley wanted to leave, would you stop him? If
he wanted to leave, would you stop him. Yeah, who's
coming in the door? I don't know. You better have
(31:03):
somebody coming in the door. You better have somebody ready
to ready to go. Yeah, I would stop him. I wouldn't,
but because we don't know who else is going to
be given what he's done. Yeah, you can't stop him
because he does have a track record of winning, and
and so I would. I would stop him and allow
(31:25):
him to try to build something here. First of all,
he's not going anywhere anywhere, and that with the record
compiled here, with with the with the nil money that
they got to shovel out and pay out, and you know,
the possible partnership now with the players and the student
athletes excuse me, athlete students, and his salary, you know,
(31:49):
the buyout is going to be crazy. So you he's
not going anywhere. And plus you know he's the one
that was the driving force for the new facilities at
USC which you know, two hundred million dollars to what
they're they're doing over there to make it competitive to
all of these other schools around the country, the Ohio State's,
the Oregons, and Michigan's and and you know, Penn State,
(32:13):
Notre Dame those Alabama Texas big schools like that that
have crazy sports complexes for their for their athletic program,
especially football. So he was the catalyst behind that. So
he's not going anywhere anytime soon. All right, Well, anyway,
they're picked ninth in the Big Ten preseason rankings. Pardon me,
(32:35):
we're going right now. Okay, you can't just pick on USC, friend, No, no, no,
We're going right over to the other side. Now, okay,
because these are big years. By the way, it's your
two of the Big ten. Big you think it's a
big year for Deshaun Foster in his second year at UCLA,
critical year or no? No, I think he gets a
(32:55):
third no matter what. Yeah, I hope, so I think
he does. He's in a tough situation and that's why.
That's exactly why. I mean, he's in a very difficult situation.
So look at the Big ten USC UCLA fitting in
in years past. They might have been scary going into
(33:19):
the Big Ten. They're not. They're not scary. They're an
average Big ten team. Sorry, Rodney, it's true, except for UCLA.
Ucla is not an average Big ten team. UCLA is
a bad Big Ten team. They are picked and finish
fifteenth in the preseason rankings. Fifteenth out of fifteen, I
(33:43):
think out of fourteenth. They're picked to finish fifteenth out
of eighteenth out of eighteen. When you're fifteenth, does it matter?
They're eighteen teams in the big team now yeah, wow, interesting?
Well yeah, and it's gotten better. Look last year Indiana, Indiana.
(34:05):
Didn't Indiana make the playoffs? I think they did? Yeah,
they did, absolutely, yeah, yeah, I mean Indiana. It is
not a team you think about it a big ten.
You're thinking about you know, Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State,
and you know Wisconsin from time to time is always
going to be pretty good. Iowa. I mean, I think
about Indiana, but that's a good team. Northwestern puts together
(34:28):
a good team from time to time. So there's no again,
there's no cupcakes. But fifteenth, Oh, who's picked a minute? Michigan,
I mean Ohio State. Yeah, here's the thing. I mean,
you can go, oh god, fifteenth, that's awful. USC at
nine isn't very good. No, And it just tells us
(34:49):
that the two teams out here, these two schools at
this point, hopefully not for long, but at this point
simply are quick to play with the big boys. That's
what it says. They're not equipped to play with the
big boys. For UCLA to be ranked fifteenth, you should
move to the Mountain West Conferences. Flows, Fred, It's Ebbs
(35:15):
and Flows. I'll tell you what. It's been happening a
lot longer for UCLA. And they their athletic department is
in the red. They're a state school. The Border regents
made him pay col bag money to go to the
Big ten. That's a terrible that was a terrible deal.
It's awful. I mean, you know, there's especially in a
(35:36):
day and age where you got to raise money, you
got to pay you know, the nil, and you got
to be able to be competitive from a financial standpoint,
and they're cutting their legs off by having to pay
col That was horrible. Well, the question becomes do you
want to be competitive? That's really the question in college
sports today. Now USC wants to be competitive and they'll
(35:58):
raise the money, but then it comes down to if
you have the money and the players and you don't win.
Is Lincoln Rightley the guy on the other side Ucla.
It's like Little Sisters of the Poor, It's like goodwill.
Can you drop something off to help us out here.
(36:19):
They don't have the cash. And if you don't have
the cash in today's collegiate athletics, you're not committed. You're
just not. And if you're not committed, then don't give
the indication you are. Don't try to fool people. Don't
give the impression we're in it because you're not. Because now,
the only thing that really matters in the world of
athlete students is you've got to win. You got to
(36:42):
win in football, or you gotta be there. You got
to win in basketball, or you got to be there.
You got to be in the conversation because if you're not,
I would think your nil money is going to lessen
because people want to pay for success.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
There's still a level of prosige that goes with being
in a conference like the Big Ten. You'd rather be
the shortest person in the room in the Big Ten
than the tallest in the Mountain West. That's pretty ridiculous
to say that they'd rather go to the Mountain West. Well,
what you said, Kevin, Vanderbilt cleans up in the SEC
and they are never gonna win anything.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
You'd rather be Vanderbilt than be Boise State.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, so, I'll say I'm looking at it just from
football too, you seel it is about you know, basketball wise,
especially women's basketball. It might be picked to win it
very good and a lot of the other sports, you know.
So yeah, Fred suggests they want to go to the
Mountain West. May ye, I'll be ashamed of yourself.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
There are still gonna be kids who want to play
for the worst Big Ten team that would never want
to play for the best Mountain West or Sun Belt
or anybody else.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, but if you'll use see la Kevin, you don't
want to be the worst Big Ten team.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
No, I'm not saying you want to be there, but
the idea of like.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Okay, so they want to be there, we can.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Move down a level and dominate. Okay, sure you can,
but why would you want to do that?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Why would you want to be in a place where,
in theory you can't compete.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
That's because it's in theory. There's no there's no saying
that they can't. Exactly, they can't. It's going to be
a little bit more difficult for them. Boy, the way,
the fact that they're in the red, they're going to
get a giant influx of money even by just being
in the Big ten money they would not get from
going to another conference. So there's that. Is it going
to be a more more of a difficult trek. Yeah,
But to say they should move down a level, no,
they would ever do.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
That makes regulation deals again. Right, they should be regulated.
It's terrible. They should be regulated to the new old
PAC twelve. You're a communist, Fred, Well, that's the nicest
thing anybody said to me today. Shark shows, who are
(38:45):
back to wrap it up after this? That's right, we're
back Quick show today. Roddy beat Fred Rogan. On Friday,
Dodgers are in Boston. It's supposed to be raining there. Huh.
A little thunderstorms going on off and on a little bit,
but it gets to stop right now. So we got
(39:06):
word to be ready to go longer today, Kevin. Have
you been monitoring that? But uh, we're clearer. We can
get out of here when it's time.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
To the best of my knowledge, we're good to go.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
They had a bit of a thunderstorm front that's rolling
through Boston right now, but from all indications are everything
will be fine. The game will start as schedule.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
All right, Well, that's good news. You'll hear it here
on the radio station emmachen on the Mound tonight, and
I guess, yeah, maybe just get rid of a lot
of guys. You're trying to get rid of them. No,
I'm not guys in Mount. He's listening to the show
and you're trying to get rid of him. Fred kind
of guy? Are you?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
But I mean to get something, you have to give something.
It's just what do you have to give? For him?
Every game in the Mount is an audition, either to
remain in the Dodger rotation, which will be completely impossible
if or when everybody is healthy that's big, or if
(40:02):
he can't. These are showcases for him. They're showcases. Mm hmm.
You know if if they make a move, if they
pull the trigger, and if he's not gonna be in
the Dodger rotation. Everybody loves him and we know he
can pitch. Wouldn't it be better to see him go
somewhere where he can really pitch and have a good
(40:23):
time instead of sitting here? Yeah? Of course for him personally, yeah, selfishly, yeah,
you want He would want that too. I want to
go somewhere I can be a regular starter and pitch
on a regular basis. But for for the Dodgers, you know,
it's a uh, it's a comfort blanket for them, you know,
(40:44):
to have a guy like that that can you know
that they can count on. And uh, he's been good
for the Dodgers, So it's it's a tough situation for
him to be in though you know, I get it.
You want to you want to be secure, and you
want to know. This is my my gear, big, my home.
I'm going out every fifth start and doing my thing.
But that sometimes is not the case. And maybe it
(41:06):
will be some point and maybe you know, in his mind, yeah,
I love the Dodgers, but maybe it Tray would be
good for me. So we'll find out what happens. Emma
Sheeen goes on the hill and we'll see what happens.
Next week's short shows for us as well, because the
Dodgers are on the road in the East and the
Central time zone, so we're gonna we're gonna cram it
(41:27):
into one hour each and every day. We're gonna load
it up and let it go. Ronnie, thanks for great week.
Really appreciate it. Kevin, have a terrific weekend. Our best
to Oliver and Rodney. You have a good weekend. We
do it one day, Red
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