The Dodgers lost 2 of 3 in Boston but their fans took over Fenway Park all weekend (even Alex Cora noticed). Could Dustin May have pitched his last game as a Dodger? What all-star could the Dodgers have their eye on as the deadline approaches? The Chargers held a couple of practices in San Diego as a way to extend an olive branch back to San Diego. How long of a leash will Pete Carroll have in Las Vegas considering how tough the AFC West is?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, let's go a sprint.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What hour Frederrgan Rodney Pete on a five seventy LA
sports Dodgers in Cincinnati today. How many times are we
gonna say this? Good they got out of Boston. Good,
they got out of here. Good, they got out of there,
good they got they got out and Rodney, they'll try
to right the ship.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, you wonder is Cincinnati a good thing or a
bad thing. Normally you go in there, you oh, yeah,
Cincinnati are playing well. But Dodger take two out of
three at least. But now you don't know. Now you
really don't know. Fred where are you on the concern panic?
Where are you on that meter? Freddy?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, look at it like this, and if we're being honest,
let's just be honest with each other. They haven't been
very good for a while and they're still in first place.
So is your class half empty or half full? Mine
will be half full, Mine will be half full. They
haven't been very good, but they're still in place. Here's
what was interesting over the weekend in Boston. The manager
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of the Red Sox, Alex Klara, after one of the games, said,
you talk about a team that travels well. The Dodgers. Yeah,
have the best road attendance in baseball. They travel better
than anybody. They're the biggest straw.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And Alex Kora said it sounded like they were playing
at Dodger Stadium. Yeah, and this is at Fenway. This
is not at you know, Chicago White Sox or this
is not in Pittsburgh. This is at Fenway where they've
got a tremendous fan base and the Dodgers took over.
Did you see the shots of pantone two ninety four
walking down the street Walkington Stadium. It was just, you know,
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droves and droves of people just walking overtaking that city
at that point. It's pretty incredible. It's pretty incredible. And
he's not He's like the third manager or player that
has commented on the amount of attendance that the Dodger
fans have at their stadium. I made one of the
biggest mistakes in reestional career dealing with pantone two ninety four.
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You did, Yeah, Dodgers are playing Boston in that World Series.
M They're in Boston and we find out that Pantone
two ninety four is going to have a takeover of
a bar. They preserve the whole thing before the game,
and I thought, this will be a spectacular place for
us to do our live shot. This will be great.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
The bar will be full of Dodger fans, and I
mean the atmosphere will be wonderful. The feel and the
look on TV will be great. So we find out
where the bar is and we tell them we're coming down.
So we walk in. The place is packed, by the way,
it is jam packed. It's about a five minute walk
from Fenway. It's jam packed. We walk in and we're
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ready to go. So I'm standing there. We're off to
the side, so you kind of can see us, but
you really can't. But we can see the entire crowd
behind us. And the one thing I told the photograph,
don't turn on the light until we go on, because
we don't want people to realize we're there and start reacting.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
No problem.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So five four three, they're pitching to me from Los Angeles.
He turns on the light. It turned into a zoo.
It was so loud and so crazy that it looked
like I had been mugged. People were screaming and shouting
and jumping in front of the camera. You couldn't hear
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me you couldn't even hear what I was saying, and
they were pushing and shoving and waving. It was so
out of control that we were going to do the
six o'clock show from there as well. I went outside.
I said, oh, no, we can't go back in there.
It looks like somebody was murdering. Oh so you were
inside the bar, Yeah, we were inside. That's what we
would always do, Go where you weren't supposed to go
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because they gave you the best stuff. But people went berserk,
all Dodger fans and screaming, yelling, cheering, charging the camera,
grabbing the microphone. I mean it was fun. Don't get
me wrong. No one did anything that was wrong, but.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It was just lunacy.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It was insanity, and I thought, we are never doing
that again. But we do have some some audio of
Alex Korra talking about the feel of Thinway with the
Dodgers in town.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Do you some way that the atmosphere here is felt
like October.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
In the first thing that was that was the Understate light.
To be honest with you, I never seen so many people.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
From the opposition in one bullpark that was different.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, credit to that.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Amazing through the years getting to October and.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Then making an abboc of that and their fan base.
You know they travel well, but that was loud. That
was very loud. Never seeing anything like that, Yeah, how
about that. Never say anything like that, traveling loud and
this is what July. Wait, where you know people are traveling,
not a playoff game anything like that, a world series
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like you were talking about. It was crazy. Did they
did they ruin the bar though, Fred, when they were
in there, it just was rowdy when you came on
with the light. Oh, it was no.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
They were well behaved until we went on and then
it was just total and complete insanity, total and complete lunacy.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I mean, Dodger fans show they travel well, they show
they care. They're the best road draw in baseball. That's
why any owner that complains about how much money the
Dodgers have spent or how they've built their team, they
had to thank God because every time the Dodgers come
to town, they make money. They make money. Sadly for
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Dodger fans in Boston, they didn't leave with a big
smile on their face because you know, if it's now
one thing, it's another. Yeah, and it's frustrating to watch.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, it's again the same old thing, fred taking the lead,
losing the lead, taking the lead. And there was a
time where it was they if they took a lead,
they weren't to get caught. And then it was a
time like we talked about, if they were behind, it
didn't matter, they were coming back. And now the end, No,
it's like for the other team was no lead was
safe when you're playing the Dodgers. Now for the Dodgers,
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it's no lead is safe for the Dodgers. I mean,
I thought they hit the ball well over the weekend.
What about you? I mean Comfordo got going. I mean
they they they hit the ball well, hit a few
home runs and scored some runs. But but man didn't
score enough obviously with runners in scoring position. But they
hit the ball well, I thought, and just could not
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could not get that that little extra that it that
they had early in the season.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, it's a difference between the margin between we're good
and winning or off and losing. That's the margin, you know,
that little ook, that little extra that moment, Yeah, that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
With a big hit or the big play or something
that's going to preserve the win. Or get us to win,
and they don't have that right now. And you know,
and it's not something that you can study fixed or whatever.
It just has to happen naturally and organically unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, so they're struggling. They really are. Off to Cincinnati.
Yamamoto goes tonight, and he's been struggling a little bit too. Yeah,
he's been hot or cold. He's been either really good
or he has been struggling. Yeah, So and they started
to get it going to Cincinnati. That's the team that's
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not a slouch either. Their pitching staff is pretty good
and Dela Cruz is just going off right now. So
this will be interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You know. It's not like going to Colorado, fred where
you can go get that remedy for losing, get that elixir,
get that tonic. Yeah no, it's different. And the Reger
making a run of the wild card. Yeah they are, Yeah, yeah,
they really are. So this will be an interesting series
in Cincinnati. But we got the trade deadline Thursday, So
now let's start kicking it around what we kicked around
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about a month ago. You know.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So if we kick it around, then maybe there's some whispers.
Then the whispers get a little louder than the whispers
turned into a conversation. The name Dustin May is being mentioned.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Now. It's real.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
People are saying, if the Dodgers make a deal, Dustin
May could be one of the guys to go. And
let's look at what he did yesterday. He looked really good. Yeah,
until he gave up three runs. Yeah, he just had
a bad, bad stretch there. But for the most part, yeah,
he looked good. His stuff looked good. But he got caught,
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you know, in that place. That's the thing about playing
in Boston too. You can you can be going well
and sometimes a flyout to left field is a double
off that wall, you know, and those guys in that
park know how to play and know how to hit
in that ballpark, and anything the other way, you get
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it up in the air and it's oftentimes bouncing off
that wall for a double, and a couple of times
it was a triple because if you don't play there,
you don't understand how to play. The caram off the
big Green Monster, and that happened to the Dodgers a
couple of times.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
So that's a name now that is being tossed around.
As we zero went on Thursday, what do you think
because they've got Snell coming back, you know, possibly, you
know thoughts that we were, well, could he move to
the bollpen, got training coming back? You got you know Kopek.
At some point, there's just not enough room in a
starting lineup for Dustin may Or Is he the most
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valuable guy out there for the Dodgers to use as
trade bait?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Little of each? Yeah, little of each. I think he's
the most valuable to use. And if everybody's healthy, then
where does he pitch? So those are the two questions.
So his name is being mentioned. But now it comes
down to again, what are you looking for? What are
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you considering? Give need somebody to close?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, given this situation now, the way the Dodgers have
played the last couple of series, right, and I talked
about the Dodgers hitting, Do you are you leaning more
towards an arm as opposed to a bat?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Now, well, I have to tell you, and the way
I look at it, the problems of hitting, that's the problem.
I'm going for a bat, that's the That's what I
would go for a bat. If you can get both,
then you've you've scored. I think the pitching will be Okay, yeah,
especially when guys get back. We've seen that with the
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Dodgers know how to do that, cobble it together. So
I'm not concerned as much. I think you need somebody
that can hit. Now, Confordo yesterday hit the ball way.
He's making a case not for some playing time, isn't
he don't sit me down. I'm getting I'm just getting
hot now, come on.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, but I mean the guy's hitting one ninety four. Yeah,
he'll break two hundred soon. Okay, Well is that good
for him this year? Good for him this year and
the way he started, Yeah, that'd be a good thing.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, So if he's going in the right direction in
a week, if he's hitting, well, we gotta know by
it like Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes, I know, Freddy, I know we'll know in these
three games. Oh, I think they know right now. I
think they know right now. Is it more glaring because
Freddy and Mooki are struggling. Yes, So it looks like
none of the Dodgers are hitting. None of the Dodgers
are doing anything. Well, look they're not really, But but
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when those two are not hitting, it's it becomes it
becomes enormous. Well, somebody's got to pick up the slack. Yeah,
not a guy hitting one ninety four. Yeah, and no
one see right now too hurts. Yeah, And what is
Mookie hitting two twenty thirty or two twenty or something
like two in the twenties. Yeah, he's having his worst
start to a season that he's ever had. Start, he's
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in it. He's having his worst hitting season. Yeah, he's
still got time to turn around for it. Yeah he does.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And you know for him, you know, two games and
all of a sudden he's back on back on track.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah. But I mean Mokey's in like two twenty two thirty,
confordos in one seventy four. Yeah, Tommy Edmunds is struggling.
Tommy Edmunds struggling down in that lineup. But see, and
as hot as Piez was, he's not as hot as
he was. So yeah, it's it's glaring up and down
the line up. But I thought they hit the ball well.
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I thought they made some cliq key hits. Tay Oskar's
starting to get it going to link. I think a
little bit. He loves it in that part though, maybe
that was an aberration. We'll see this weekend or this
week but uh yeah, yeah, so you going back? Huh,
you're going heavy with the bat. I'd go back.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Here's what Bill Shakin says. If they're going to make
a move, how about this move, take a look at
Kenley Jansen as a closer. Go get Kenley Jansen from
the Angels. Okay, the thought you close him? Would you
close him though, or would you get him just as
a bullpen, high leverage kind of situation? Either way, just
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take get him. That's what Bill Shakin says, Go get
Kenley Jansen. Yeah, who else is out there?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
We can't. Hey, listen, class A now is off the market,
given given his troubles, So you know, why not? Why not?
What's this? What's the how's he doing with the Angels?
I haven't really followed that much. He's doing okay, yeah, yeah,
he's doing all right. I just I wouldn't necessarily have
him closed. I'd wait for you know, I'd still leave
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it to tryning and and uh and it's still probably
and maybe you know, wait and see what happens with
Kopek coming back. I wouldn't put him exclusively in the
closing situation. You know, I think you know, we saw
the fall off when he left the Dodgers of him closing.
So but I still think he can be very effective
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if it's the eighth seven coming in for a couple
of batters. Yeah, I don't I think he can be
effective still, all right, so he's a possibility. Joe Kelly
reportedly we'll throw off at the club. Yeah, what do
you think I had any interest in signing him? What
do you think about that? Joe Kelly? Everybody loves Joe Kelly. Yeah,
you just don't know what you're gonna get. You can
get lights out Joe Kelly, or you can get where
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he's get hitting.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Around, right, You don't know. I mean, can it hurt
that he's gonna throw form? No, can't hurt. But remember
it's always an adventure, an experience when he's on the mound.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Don't know if you have the uh, the ability to
let Joe Kelly perform the Joe Kelly experience.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Not right now. When things are going good, he's a bonus.
But when you're struggling, he needs somebody to be consistent
in that seventh, eighth, ninth INNY. I don't know if
he's your guy again. He's hot and cold. This very
little metal room with Joe. He's either really good and
unhittable or you know, he's not on his game and
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they're hitting him around a little bit. Yeah. No.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
In between Fabi and Arde of the Athletic reports the
Dodgers are interested in trading for an outfielder. Really well,
we didn't guess that, preferably a left added bat. Who
would have known that, So we've been talking about that
for over a month. That's Michael Conforto, by the way.
So if they're interested in making that move, well that
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should tell you what they think. Well they make the
right move, is that move available? One name that has
been kicked around. We kicked around Stephen Kuan last week
because there were reports. I heard this a couple of
times over the weekend. Rdenal's All Star second Basemin Brendan Donovan.
Brendan Donovan town a good year and apparently they like
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trading with the Cardinals because that's where Tommy Edmund came from.
But he's under team control through twenty twenty seven, and
he'd have a hefty price tag. So how much do
you want to spend? How much are you willing to spend?
Now he's a second basement, So who knows who they
move around to where.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, good thing is Dodgers have a lot of chess pieces.
They can move around a lot of guys can play
different positions. Like you said, when they come to the Dodgers,
you better be ready to place multiple positions. So yeah,
even though he's a second basement, is he like a
Tommy Edmund second basement that can play third and can
play center field or right if you need be.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, well that's the question. But it does seem to indicate. Yeah,
something we speculated on. David Vassay mentioned that they are
going to be if need be, at the trade deadline,
and at the very least they are looking around talk
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to some NFL next Chargers something they did do. Fans
appreciate it and the Rams are they in trouble at quarterback?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
That's right, Welcome back on a Monday, Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan,
Let's go, Freddy, Okay, I think it's a training camp
for it all right, let's go. Let's start with the Chargers.
They are in camp.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
They play the Hall of Fame game. You know, they
held some of their training camp down in San Diego.
What do you think of that? They held some camp
down in San Diego. They went back, maybe trying to
hold on to the fans they had down there, or
encouraged them to come north. But they went down there
just to take it a little temperature, little room temperature.
What do you think of that idea?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
M I actually do like the idea. What how many
years have they been gone? Now? Was it four? What
is it now? Four? Or five? Yeah? I think it's five.
I think five. Yeah. I think the the novelty of
them leaving or gone has kind of worn off a
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little bit. It's been five years, I guess, and and
and there are still a number of I believe Charger
fans in San Diego that still come up to games
on a regular basis, So they still got a fan base.
I mean they're I would say the large part of
their fan base doesn't like them and probably abandoned them,
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but they still have some fans. I think it's a
good gesture. Fred going back there to show showed some
love to a place they were at forever. Did they
get a good response, I haven't certain seen anything like that.
I think it was okay. I think it was fine.
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I mean I don't think anybody went down there and
like started throwing water balloons at them. But did they
have good crowds down there? That's the question. Yeah, I think, okay, yeah, yeah.
And here's the thing. It really makes sense for them
to try and control down there. Right, people can drive
to Charger games on Sundays. People from LA used to
drive to San Diego, so why couldn't they drive from
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San Diego here? That's true, and I think they do.
I don't you know, I couldn't tell you the percentage
of people that come up from San Diego, but you
know their base is San Diego and was and a
lot of Orange County folks would go down to Charger
games on a regular basis too, so that that that
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area is still right with fans and has a fan base.
So I don't I don't mind them trying to rekindle
that and trying to build on that to get more
Charger fans engaged in them being up here and then
making that trip because it's really two hour drive and
you at the game, so it's it's pretty easy for
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them to get up here. So I don't mind that.
You gotta spread your wings a little bit, and there's
no sense being bitter if you're or or insensitive. If
you're the Chargers are bitter, if you're the fans, you
know it is what it is now, all right.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
They also did some business. They signed Ray Shawn Slater
four years, ninety two million dollars guaranteed. That's the most
offensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, they're committed. You can't say they cheap. Brit They
paid their quarterback, they paid their head coach. Now they're
they're they're paid. They got the highest paid offensive lineman, spanels.
They're doing their thing. They're gonna, you know, they are.
It feels like they're committed with hardball. And I gotta
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believe Jim wasn't coming unless they were committed, unless they
were about to, you know, compete and spend some money,
or he wouldn't be here. Yeah. So so it's good
to see. It's good to see that they are. They're
in the game with everybody else.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
All right, that's for the Rams. The big question. So,
I don't know if this is smoking mirrors. I don't
know if it's real.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Matthew Stafford's back now this you know, if it's real,
it's a problem if it's real.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But what do you mean if it's real? It obviously
is real. Well, what is right, right, that's the question.
We don't want to put him out there now. There's
no reason for him to be out there. We know
what he can do, so there's no reason for him
to run around out there like that right now? Just
take it easy? Or is his back bothering him to
a point like this? Is I got a back problem?
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Or is it you know I can get to this
in a couple of weeks some fine. I don't need
to be running around out here right now doing this.
I mean, I'll work on the side, I'll do what
needs to be done. But everybody knows I can play quarterback,
and everybody knows what I can do. So I'm not
gonna go out here in these drills every single day
because I don't need to. Or does he have a
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problem with his back and we don't want to risk anything.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It's one of those two, right. Well, first off, we're
still in late July, so it's not a real critical
issue right now that he's missing time. Plenty of time,
as you mentioned, Stafford is what thirty eight thirty nine
something like that, and he's played a long time, doesn't
need to play in every preseason game. Or any police
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preseason game. BECU, Sean McVay doesn't do that, so he's
not gonna play anyway. If we're talking in late August
and you know, a week before the season started, he
still hasn't practiced yet, then there's some concerns. But right now, no,
I think at anything with the guy that's that age
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that you are extra cautious with because we're gonna need
you for the season. We don't need you out here
practicing every day and making it worse. The only concern
is that it didn't happen in camp. It happened, you know,
he wasn't able to start camp, So this must have
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been something that was going on all off season or
most of the summer leading up to camp, because he
was not able to participate from day one, So it
must have been something that's bothered him, you know, pretty
much all off season, which may be a little bit
of a concern, But right now, it's still way early
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to jump up and down or to put up any
red flags because he's not practicing right now, all right,
So in your opinion, there's nothing really to worry about, No,
not right now. Sure, If that's the case, you think
the Rams are a contender this year. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
absolutely they are. I think they upgraded in the right areas.
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DeVante Adams and pook and the cool opposite each other
is going to be great. Taking nothing away from Cooper
Cup because I think he was great for the Rams
for a number of years, but we've seen him he
kind of fall off a little bit and he got
the injury issues. But DeVante Adams is still a stud
and can take the top off like Pooka can and
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he will make some big plays. I'm sure Matthew Stafford
is very very happy to have him. And then defensively,
they were young, they've got to get better and you know,
we saw them take the Eagles down to the wire
last year in the snow, So yeah, I think they are.
They are the favorites to me in certainly in the
West in their division. And then to make a make
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a nice run in the playoffs. I see that happening now.
Stafford has to be healthy, right, that's the key, and
it's going to be key for a lot of teams. Right.
The quarterback has to stay upright and stay healthy. And
he's an older one, so they've got to keep him healthy.
That's the big thing. But I think if it need
be and they need Garoppolo to go out and play
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two to four games, I think he's fully capable of
winning those games for the Rams. Now, can he carry
you the rest of the season if Stafford is out
Week eight for the rest of the year, I don't
think so. But to step in from time to time
if Matthew Stafford has to go down or it can't
play one week or two, Yeah, they got a quality
experience backup that can handle that. Yeah. I like the
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Ram chances a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I gotta be honest with you, and I know the
difficulty in the Chargers with Kansas City, but not.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Just Kansas City. They're gonna have problem with Denver. Denver's
to sleep. Denver's the dark horse. Denver quietly has been
a very good team, and Sean Payton is a very
good coach, and they've got a quarterback in his second
year now after having a great rookie season, and what
they did defensively, Denver is a team to watch out for, seriously,
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watch out for. Isn't funny how much of a difference
a real coach makes a real coach. But isn't it funny? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
it definitely does just that, because it's just keeping everything together,
you know, because there are a number of coaches out
there that are very good at x's and o's right,
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and then there are other coaches that are very good
at you know, personalities and just being a player friendly guy.
But rarely do you have the ones that are a
combination of both is what you need and just being
able to be organized and then having the team believe
in you is a big deal. And how do you
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get that cross across as a as a head coach?
And some people can, some coaches can, and some coaches can't.
What's interesting, too, is how long it takes you to
really turn it around. You know, you hire somebody like
a Sean Pateon, you pay him a lot of money,
and you give him the years to do it. He's
going to do it, but it's not going to happen overnight.
Although I think he's making great strikes quickly. Yeah, I
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mean what he took him to the playoffs in year
two of him being there, got you know, made the
bold move to get rid of Russell Wilson with that big,
gigantic contract, went out and got his quarterback, had a
phenomenal year and now you know, they're talked about as
being one of the forces in the AFC that's going
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to challenge Kansas City in San Diego. How do you
think how do you think Pete does in Vegas though,
with that new situation being an older coach.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Truly, I think he's going to do pretty well. Rodney
am I nuts. I think he will make a major
difference there. He knows how to do this, and I
think that's a big.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Success to be sustained means you have a system and
you know how to do it. He can't play and
I don't think really it matters if he's older or younger,
to be quite honest with you, he's Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
He knows what he's doing. I think he will actually
do a pretty good job there. Yeah, I think so too.
I think so too. A Pete is one of the
guys that knows how to adapt to Over the years,
he's found that out and he's learned that from this
time at the you know, his first stints at New
England and the Jets, and he's he's talked about it
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how he had to adapt as a coach and resetting
at USC. I think did wonders for him to go
up to Seattle and do what he did up there.
But yeah, I think he's I think he'll do well
in Vegas. I think that. And I think they got
the right guy, Gino Smith as their quarterback, because we
talked to Vinnie about that last week. I think that
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Gino is a leader, he's a veteran guy. They've got
some veteran guys on that team. I just I'm concerned
about their weapons right now. And then I'm also concerned
how long are they going to give Pete up there
to get it turned around because they're in a tough division.
Oh how long they'll give him? Yeah, they're in a
they're in a tough division. I mean, they got to
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get past Kansas City. They gotta they gotta get past uh,
you know, the the Chargers, they gotta you know, And
I said, upcoming Denver team, it's a very difficult They're
they're they're gonna be picked last in their division. So
how long is he going to get to to turn
things around and overtake Kansas City and the Chargers and
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you know, Denver a young team. How long he's gonna
get to do it? In Las Vegas. Oh so when
you question and you say how long is it gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Get what, do you think they're not get rid of
them after a year?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
No? No, no, I don't think a year. But I'm
just saying, can't city aren't going into anywhere anytime soon.
I don't think they may not be favorites every year
to win the Super Bowl for the next five but
they're gonna be writing a mix as long as they
got number fifteen pulling the trigger for him. And then
you got to believe the Chargers are gonna make a
step in the right direction. And then Denver the young
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team in Denver, like I said, they're pulling up the
rear in their own division. And Chargers are still a
young team and Denver's a very young team. So you
know they're gonna have to make some moves to get
to move up and to be really competitive to the
point where they're winning their division. No, I got it.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I think they will make strides. Sure, I think Geno
Smith's a much better quarterback than I Pat. Can we
agree with that?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, He's definitely an upgrading what they
had in the last five years, six years.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Oh and it was never a question. Even with Antonio Pierce.
The guys played hard. So I think they're gonna play
hard for Pete. And now they have a quarterback that
can playing. So what will be progress five hundred.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
For this year? Yeah? Probably. I don't see them. I
don't see them. I don't see them making the playoffs
number one. I don't see them really being in contention.
But I think they'll be very competitive. I think it's
gonna be a tough out for anybody has to play them,
for sure, But there's too many good teams in their
division right now that that hurts them. Now, if they
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were playing in the AFC South, then I would give them,
you know, I'd say they got a chance to go
to the playoffs this.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Year, right, No, I got you. But I mean there
has to be some reality associated with it. I mean,
he's basically starting with a team. I don't want to
say it's ground zero, but it's not great. So if
they're fundamentally sound, if they win the games are supposed
to win, if they're close in the games that they
can't win, I have to tell you, I think they're
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gonna be Okay. I do I think Pete gets three years.
I think you have to in year two show substantial progress.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Though oh yeah, oh yeah, this is gonna be a
culture year him building this culture. And then next year
they're gonna have to either make the playoffs or be
very close to making it. And then we'll see in
year three when they when Pete gets to put his
real stamp on the team and get all the guys
he wants to get in there, then we'll see. But
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he's a great team builder, so you know, wherever he's gone,
it hadn't taken him long, especially lately, whether USC or
up in Seattle, didn't take him long to get it going.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, so I agree with you. I think he's gonna
be fine. Yeah, it'll take a little time, but that's okay,
that's all right. I think they got a lot better
with him there. Quite honestly, I think they got a
ton better with him there. I know it's very difficult,
the division is very difficult, but they're better because he's there.
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So I would not be surprised to see them make
significant strides, all right. Fred Rogan and Rodney Pete on
a five to seventy l A Sports not just talking
more about the Dodgers as they get ready to play
in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
When we come back. Oh yeah, back to wrapping Pete.
Fred Rogan on a Monday Quick show Today Dodgers are
in Cincinnati. One hour spent for Fred. Do you see
any of the any of the Hall of Fame stuff
that it was going on over the weekend. I didn't
see it. Tell me about it. It was good. C
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Caesar Matthew went in, Billy Wagner, Dave Parker posthumously went in,
his son gave a great speech, wrote or read a
poem that he wrote to him, which was really cool.
I think Dick Williams went in, and then eachier Ro
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eachi Ro went in and had a unbelievable speech. It was,
it was fantastic. And he said it all in English.
He did his whole speech in English, and it was
he had jokes and he did impressions, and it was
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it was just fantastic. And he and he looked good.
He looked like he's he's aging gracefully as a Japanese man,
and it looks good on him. And but he was
he was so funny and and I thought it was great.
I thought it was great. And he was just very
appreciative of of being the first Japanese position player to
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go into the Hall of Fame. So very cool. His
numbers are ridiculous too, you know, when you really he
came in the league at twenty seven. When you really
look at it, he joined the league at twenty seven
as a rookie and one Rookie of the Year and
the MVP, and those years in Seattle Man he was
I think one year he had two hundred and thirty
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six hits or something like that. Hit for over three hundred,
which we'll probably never see again because average is not
that important anymore, and you know, neither are really hits.
It's really about that one hit that you have. You
hit a home run or double or triple that people
care about. But incredible numbers he put together.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's funny when guys going to the Hall of Fame
sometimes you forget about how good they were. Yeah, you know,
I'm standing here now and I'm being enshrined and let
me give you my speech. But you have to be
of a certain age, ranger generation to appreciate that, because
the younger fans don't remember those guys.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
No, like each we know each row. Young fans don't, Yeah,
they don't.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And everything is relative too, So guys that were good
when Babe Ruth played might not be quite as good today.
To be very are honest with you, because it's all relative.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, and you know this because they're Yeah, it's all relative.
And then you know there are certain guys that transcend
any generation, and not a lot of them, but transcend
any generation, any time period, any decade, in all the
different sports. You know another guy too, that that that
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that when you really dive into his stats is C. C.
Sabathia CC And we were talking about it. I don't
know where the numbers, I forgot what they said, but
the amount of complete games that he threw while he
was in Cleveland and New York was an incredible number two.
And again you won't see that anymore like the younger generation.
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Like you said, nobody goes complete games anymore. But that
used to be a badge of honor for pitchers going
complete games. I went all nine and now it's they
won't even let you do it. Wanted to do it.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And if you think so, the argument is guys throw
harder today, right, and the spin rate is higher, so
their arm is moving at a different position, right.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
But back in the day. Yeah, if you felt good
it you were going. If you felt good, it didn't
matter if you had one hundred and twenty pitches in.
How you feeling, How you feeling, Okay, Yeah, I got
three more out to me, skip, I got three more
in me. Go, Okay, we're gonna leave me in.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
So they did it, by the way, I just looked
it up. So CC threw thirty eight complete games in
his career, and in one year he threw ten. Wow,
ten complete games in one season and he was one two.
He was nine years into his career when he did that.
Nobody would do.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
That to that, nobody not even close ten in one season.
And did it seem like guys got hurt. No, less
of the time pitchers back then, No, yeah they didn't.
They were having twenty starts in third starts and things
like that. Yeah, No, you didn't see it. You did
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not see it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
No, it seemed like everybody went out and pitch. You
certainly didn't see this. No, guys, but again, they're throwing
differently now.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, and the bodies got made to throw that, the
Billy Wagners of the world, and the ccs didn't probably
didn't play Little League and travel ball and play ten
months out of the year throwing every week. When they
were growing up, right, you know, they probably played different
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sports and they took time off from their arms, so
they didn't have all these coaches and going to these
clinics and throwing and you said, trying to throw as
hard as they can and trying to spend it as
hard as they can at twelve years old, that didn't happen,
all right, Runn a good job today. Thank you, just
to sprint for us one hour. Appreciate you being with us.
Kevin terrific work and Rodney hopefully that out and just
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figured this one out today and we'll do it again tomorrow, Yes, sir,
All right, let's go a sprint.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What hour Frederrgan Rodney Pete on a five seventy LA
sports Dodgers in Cincinnati today. How many times are we
gonna say this? Good they got out of Boston. Good,
they got out of here. Good, they got out of there,
good they got they got out and Rodney, they'll try
to right the ship.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, you wonder is Cincinnati a good thing or a
bad thing. Normally you go in there, you oh, yeah,
Cincinnati are playing well. But Dodger take two out of
three at least. But now you don't know. Now you
really don't know. Fred where are you on the concern panic?
Where are you on that meter? Freddy?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, look at it like this, and if we're being honest,
let's just be honest with each other. They haven't been
very good for a while and they're still in first place.
So is your class half empty or half full? Mine
will be half full, Mine will be half full. They
haven't been very good, but they're still in place. Here's
what was interesting over the weekend in Boston. The manager
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of the Red Sox, Alex Klara, after one of the games, said,
you talk about a team that travels well. The Dodgers. Yeah,
have the best road attendance in baseball. They travel better
than anybody. They're the biggest straw.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And Alex Kora said it sounded like they were playing
at Dodger Stadium. Yeah, and this is at Fenway. This
is not at you know, Chicago White Sox or this
is not in Pittsburgh. This is at Fenway where they've
got a tremendous fan base and the Dodgers took over.
Did you see the shots of pantone two ninety four
walking down the street Walkington Stadium. It was just, you know,
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droves and droves of people just walking overtaking that city
at that point. It's pretty incredible. It's pretty incredible. And
he's not He's like the third manager or player that
has commented on the amount of attendance that the Dodger
fans have at their stadium. I made one of the
biggest mistakes in reestional career dealing with pantone two ninety four.
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You did, Yeah, Dodgers are playing Boston in that World Series.
M They're in Boston and we find out that Pantone
two ninety four is going to have a takeover of
a bar. They preserve the whole thing before the game,
and I thought, this will be a spectacular place for
us to do our live shot. This will be great.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
The bar will be full of Dodger fans, and I
mean the atmosphere will be wonderful. The feel and the
look on TV will be great. So we find out
where the bar is and we tell them we're coming down.
So we walk in. The place is packed, by the way,
it is jam packed. It's about a five minute walk
from Fenway. It's jam packed. We walk in and we're
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ready to go. So I'm standing there. We're off to
the side, so you kind of can see us, but
you really can't. But we can see the entire crowd
behind us. And the one thing I told the photograph,
don't turn on the light until we go on, because
we don't want people to realize we're there and start reacting.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
No problem.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So five four three, they're pitching to me from Los Angeles.
He turns on the light. It turned into a zoo.
It was so loud and so crazy that it looked
like I had been mugged. People were screaming and shouting
and jumping in front of the camera. You couldn't hear
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me you couldn't even hear what I was saying, and
they were pushing and shoving and waving. It was so
out of control that we were going to do the
six o'clock show from there as well. I went outside.
I said, oh, no, we can't go back in there.
It looks like somebody was murdering. Oh so you were
inside the bar, Yeah, we were inside. That's what we
would always do, Go where you weren't supposed to go
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because they gave you the best stuff. But people went berserk,
all Dodger fans and screaming, yelling, cheering, charging the camera,
grabbing the microphone. I mean it was fun. Don't get
me wrong. No one did anything that was wrong, but.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It was just lunacy.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It was insanity, and I thought, we are never doing
that again. But we do have some some audio of
Alex Korra talking about the feel of Thinway with the
Dodgers in town.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Do you some way that the atmosphere here is felt
like October.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
In the first thing that was that was the Understate light.
To be honest with you, I never seen so many people.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
From the opposition in one bullpark that was different.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, credit to that.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Amazing through the years getting to October and.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Then making an abboc of that and their fan base.
You know they travel well, but that was loud. That
was very loud. Never seeing anything like that, Yeah, how
about that. Never say anything like that, traveling loud and
this is what July. Wait, where you know people are traveling,
not a playoff game anything like that, a world series
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like you were talking about. It was crazy. Did they
did they ruin the bar though, Fred, when they were
in there, it just was rowdy when you came on
with the light. Oh, it was no.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
They were well behaved until we went on and then
it was just total and complete insanity, total and complete lunacy.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I mean, Dodger fans show they travel well, they show
they care. They're the best road draw in baseball. That's
why any owner that complains about how much money the
Dodgers have spent or how they've built their team, they
had to thank God because every time the Dodgers come
to town, they make money. They make money. Sadly for
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Dodger fans in Boston, they didn't leave with a big
smile on their face because you know, if it's now
one thing, it's another. Yeah, and it's frustrating to watch.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, it's again the same old thing, fred taking the lead,
losing the lead, taking the lead. And there was a
time where it was they if they took a lead,
they weren't to get caught. And then it was a
time like we talked about, if they were behind, it
didn't matter, they were coming back. And now the end, No,
it's like for the other team was no lead was
safe when you're playing the Dodgers. Now for the Dodgers,
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it's no lead is safe for the Dodgers. I mean,
I thought they hit the ball well over the weekend.
What about you? I mean Comfordo got going. I mean
they they they hit the ball well, hit a few
home runs and scored some runs. But but man didn't
score enough obviously with runners in scoring position. But they
hit the ball well, I thought, and just could not
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could not get that that little extra that it that
they had early in the season.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, it's a difference between the margin between we're good
and winning or off and losing. That's the margin, you know,
that little ook, that little extra that moment, Yeah, that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
With a big hit or the big play or something
that's going to preserve the win. Or get us to win,
and they don't have that right now. And you know,
and it's not something that you can study fixed or whatever.
It just has to happen naturally and organically unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, so they're struggling. They really are. Off to Cincinnati.
Yamamoto goes tonight, and he's been struggling a little bit too. Yeah,
he's been hot or cold. He's been either really good
or he has been struggling. Yeah, So and they started
to get it going to Cincinnati. That's the team that's
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not a slouch either. Their pitching staff is pretty good
and Dela Cruz is just going off right now. So
this will be interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You know. It's not like going to Colorado, fred where
you can go get that remedy for losing, get that elixir,
get that tonic. Yeah no, it's different. And the Reger
making a run of the wild card. Yeah they are, Yeah, yeah,
they really are. So this will be an interesting series
in Cincinnati. But we got the trade deadline Thursday, So
now let's start kicking it around what we kicked around
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about a month ago. You know.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So if we kick it around, then maybe there's some whispers.
Then the whispers get a little louder than the whispers
turned into a conversation. The name Dustin May is being mentioned.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Now. It's real.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
People are saying, if the Dodgers make a deal, Dustin
May could be one of the guys to go. And
let's look at what he did yesterday. He looked really good. Yeah,
until he gave up three runs. Yeah, he just had
a bad, bad stretch there. But for the most part, yeah,
he looked good. His stuff looked good. But he got caught,
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you know, in that place. That's the thing about playing
in Boston too. You can you can be going well
and sometimes a flyout to left field is a double
off that wall, you know, and those guys in that
park know how to play and know how to hit
in that ballpark, and anything the other way, you get
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it up in the air and it's oftentimes bouncing off
that wall for a double, and a couple of times
it was a triple because if you don't play there,
you don't understand how to play. The caram off the
big Green Monster, and that happened to the Dodgers a
couple of times.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
So that's a name now that is being tossed around.
As we zero went on Thursday, what do you think
because they've got Snell coming back, you know, possibly, you
know thoughts that we were, well, could he move to
the bollpen, got training coming back? You got you know Kopek.
At some point, there's just not enough room in a
starting lineup for Dustin may Or Is he the most
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valuable guy out there for the Dodgers to use as
trade bait?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Little of each? Yeah, little of each. I think he's
the most valuable to use. And if everybody's healthy, then
where does he pitch? So those are the two questions.
So his name is being mentioned. But now it comes
down to again, what are you looking for? What are
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you considering? Give need somebody to close?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, given this situation now, the way the Dodgers have
played the last couple of series, right, and I talked
about the Dodgers hitting, Do you are you leaning more
towards an arm as opposed to a bat?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Now, well, I have to tell you, and the way
I look at it, the problems of hitting, that's the problem.
I'm going for a bat, that's the That's what I
would go for a bat. If you can get both,
then you've you've scored. I think the pitching will be Okay, yeah,
especially when guys get back. We've seen that with the
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Dodgers know how to do that, cobble it together. So
I'm not concerned as much. I think you need somebody
that can hit. Now, Confordo yesterday hit the ball way.
He's making a case not for some playing time, isn't
he don't sit me down. I'm getting I'm just getting
hot now, come on.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, but I mean the guy's hitting one ninety four. Yeah,
he'll break two hundred soon. Okay, Well is that good
for him this year? Good for him this year and
the way he started, Yeah, that'd be a good thing.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, So if he's going in the right direction in
a week, if he's hitting, well, we gotta know by
it like Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes, I know, Freddy, I know we'll know in these
three games. Oh, I think they know right now. I
think they know right now. Is it more glaring because
Freddy and Mooki are struggling. Yes, So it looks like
none of the Dodgers are hitting. None of the Dodgers
are doing anything. Well, look they're not really, But but
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when those two are not hitting, it's it becomes it
becomes enormous. Well, somebody's got to pick up the slack. Yeah,
not a guy hitting one ninety four. Yeah, and no
one see right now too hurts. Yeah, And what is
Mookie hitting two twenty thirty or two twenty or something
like two in the twenties. Yeah, he's having his worst
start to a season that he's ever had. Start, he's
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in it. He's having his worst hitting season. Yeah, he's
still got time to turn around for it. Yeah he does.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And you know for him, you know, two games and
all of a sudden he's back on back on track.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah. But I mean Mokey's in like two twenty two thirty,
confordos in one seventy four. Yeah, Tommy Edmunds is struggling.
Tommy Edmunds struggling down in that lineup. But see, and
as hot as Piez was, he's not as hot as
he was. So yeah, it's it's glaring up and down
the line up. But I thought they hit the ball well.
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I thought they made some cliq key hits. Tay Oskar's
starting to get it going to link. I think a
little bit. He loves it in that part though, maybe
that was an aberration. We'll see this weekend or this
week but uh yeah, yeah, so you going back? Huh,
you're going heavy with the bat. I'd go back.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Here's what Bill Shakin says. If they're going to make
a move, how about this move, take a look at
Kenley Jansen as a closer. Go get Kenley Jansen from
the Angels. Okay, the thought you close him? Would you
close him though, or would you get him just as
a bullpen, high leverage kind of situation? Either way, just
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take get him. That's what Bill Shakin says, Go get
Kenley Jansen. Yeah, who else is out there?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
We can't. Hey, listen, class A now is off the market,
given given his troubles, So you know, why not? Why not?
What's this? What's the how's he doing with the Angels?
I haven't really followed that much. He's doing okay, yeah, yeah,
he's doing all right. I just I wouldn't necessarily have
him closed. I'd wait for you know, I'd still leave
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it to tryning and and uh and it's still probably
and maybe you know, wait and see what happens with
Kopek coming back. I wouldn't put him exclusively in the
closing situation. You know, I think you know, we saw
the fall off when he left the Dodgers of him closing.
So but I still think he can be very effective
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if it's the eighth seven coming in for a couple
of batters. Yeah, I don't I think he can be
effective still, all right, so he's a possibility. Joe Kelly
reportedly we'll throw off at the club. Yeah, what do
you think I had any interest in signing him? What
do you think about that? Joe Kelly? Everybody loves Joe Kelly. Yeah,
you just don't know what you're gonna get. You can
get lights out Joe Kelly, or you can get where
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he's get hitting.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Around, right, You don't know. I mean, can it hurt
that he's gonna throw form? No, can't hurt. But remember
it's always an adventure, an experience when he's on the mound.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Don't know if you have the uh, the ability to
let Joe Kelly perform the Joe Kelly experience.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Not right now. When things are going good, he's a bonus.
But when you're struggling, he needs somebody to be consistent
in that seventh, eighth, ninth INNY. I don't know if
he's your guy again. He's hot and cold. This very
little metal room with Joe. He's either really good and
unhittable or you know, he's not on his game and
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they're hitting him around a little bit. Yeah. No.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
In between Fabi and Arde of the Athletic reports the
Dodgers are interested in trading for an outfielder. Really well,
we didn't guess that, preferably a left added bat. Who
would have known that, So we've been talking about that
for over a month. That's Michael Conforto, by the way.
So if they're interested in making that move, well that
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should tell you what they think. Well they make the
right move, is that move available? One name that has
been kicked around. We kicked around Stephen Kuan last week
because there were reports. I heard this a couple of
times over the weekend. Rdenal's All Star second Basemin Brendan Donovan.
Brendan Donovan town a good year and apparently they like
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trading with the Cardinals because that's where Tommy Edmund came from.
But he's under team control through twenty twenty seven, and
he'd have a hefty price tag. So how much do
you want to spend? How much are you willing to spend?
Now he's a second basement, So who knows who they
move around to where.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, good thing is Dodgers have a lot of chess pieces.
They can move around a lot of guys can play
different positions. Like you said, when they come to the Dodgers,
you better be ready to place multiple positions. So yeah,
even though he's a second basement, is he like a
Tommy Edmund second basement that can play third and can
play center field or right if you need be.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, well that's the question. But it does seem to indicate. Yeah,
something we speculated on. David Vassay mentioned that they are
going to be if need be, at the trade deadline,
and at the very least they are looking around talk
(17:13):
to some NFL next Chargers something they did do. Fans
appreciate it and the Rams are they in trouble at quarterback?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
That's right, Welcome back on a Monday, Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan,
Let's go, Freddy, Okay, I think it's a training camp
for it all right, let's go. Let's start with the Chargers.
They are in camp.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
They play the Hall of Fame game. You know, they
held some of their training camp down in San Diego.
What do you think of that? They held some camp
down in San Diego. They went back, maybe trying to
hold on to the fans they had down there, or
encouraged them to come north. But they went down there
just to take it a little temperature, little room temperature.
What do you think of that idea?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
M I actually do like the idea. What how many
years have they been gone? Now? Was it four? What
is it now? Four? Or five? Yeah? I think it's five.
I think five. Yeah. I think the the novelty of
them leaving or gone has kind of worn off a
(18:28):
little bit. It's been five years, I guess, and and
and there are still a number of I believe Charger
fans in San Diego that still come up to games
on a regular basis, So they still got a fan base.
I mean they're I would say the large part of
their fan base doesn't like them and probably abandoned them,
(18:48):
but they still have some fans. I think it's a
good gesture. Fred going back there to show showed some
love to a place they were at forever. Did they
get a good response, I haven't certain seen anything like that.
I think it was okay. I think it was fine.
(19:08):
I mean I don't think anybody went down there and
like started throwing water balloons at them. But did they
have good crowds down there? That's the question. Yeah, I think, okay, yeah, yeah.
And here's the thing. It really makes sense for them
to try and control down there. Right, people can drive
to Charger games on Sundays. People from LA used to
drive to San Diego, so why couldn't they drive from
(19:30):
San Diego here? That's true, and I think they do.
I don't you know, I couldn't tell you the percentage
of people that come up from San Diego, but you
know their base is San Diego and was and a
lot of Orange County folks would go down to Charger
games on a regular basis too, so that that that
(19:50):
area is still right with fans and has a fan base.
So I don't I don't mind them trying to rekindle
that and trying to build on that to get more
Charger fans engaged in them being up here and then
making that trip because it's really two hour drive and
you at the game, so it's it's pretty easy for
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them to get up here. So I don't mind that.
You gotta spread your wings a little bit, and there's
no sense being bitter if you're or or insensitive. If
you're the Chargers are bitter, if you're the fans, you
know it is what it is now, all right.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
They also did some business. They signed Ray Shawn Slater
four years, ninety two million dollars guaranteed. That's the most
offensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, they're committed. You can't say they cheap. Brit They
paid their quarterback, they paid their head coach. Now they're
they're they're paid. They got the highest paid offensive lineman, spanels.
They're doing their thing. They're gonna, you know, they are.
It feels like they're committed with hardball. And I gotta
(20:54):
believe Jim wasn't coming unless they were committed, unless they
were about to, you know, compete and spend some money,
or he wouldn't be here. Yeah. So so it's good
to see. It's good to see that they are. They're
in the game with everybody else.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
All right, that's for the Rams. The big question. So,
I don't know if this is smoking mirrors. I don't
know if it's real.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Matthew Stafford's back now this you know, if it's real,
it's a problem if it's real.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But what do you mean if it's real? It obviously
is real. Well, what is right, right, that's the question.
We don't want to put him out there now. There's
no reason for him to be out there. We know
what he can do, so there's no reason for him
to run around out there like that right now? Just
take it easy? Or is his back bothering him to
a point like this? Is I got a back problem?
(21:52):
Or is it you know I can get to this
in a couple of weeks some fine. I don't need
to be running around out here right now doing this.
I mean, I'll work on the side, I'll do what
needs to be done. But everybody knows I can play quarterback,
and everybody knows what I can do. So I'm not
gonna go out here in these drills every single day
because I don't need to. Or does he have a
(22:17):
problem with his back and we don't want to risk anything.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It's one of those two, right. Well, first off, we're
still in late July, so it's not a real critical
issue right now that he's missing time. Plenty of time,
as you mentioned, Stafford is what thirty eight thirty nine
something like that, and he's played a long time, doesn't
need to play in every preseason game. Or any police
(22:46):
preseason game. BECU, Sean McVay doesn't do that, so he's
not gonna play anyway. If we're talking in late August
and you know, a week before the season started, he
still hasn't practiced yet, then there's some concerns. But right now, no,
I think at anything with the guy that's that age
(23:08):
that you are extra cautious with because we're gonna need
you for the season. We don't need you out here
practicing every day and making it worse. The only concern
is that it didn't happen in camp. It happened, you know,
he wasn't able to start camp, So this must have
(23:28):
been something that was going on all off season or
most of the summer leading up to camp, because he
was not able to participate from day one, So it
must have been something that's bothered him, you know, pretty
much all off season, which may be a little bit
of a concern, But right now, it's still way early
(23:48):
to jump up and down or to put up any
red flags because he's not practicing right now, all right,
So in your opinion, there's nothing really to worry about, No,
not right now. Sure, If that's the case, you think
the Rams are a contender this year. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
absolutely they are. I think they upgraded in the right areas.
(24:12):
DeVante Adams and pook and the cool opposite each other
is going to be great. Taking nothing away from Cooper
Cup because I think he was great for the Rams
for a number of years, but we've seen him he
kind of fall off a little bit and he got
the injury issues. But DeVante Adams is still a stud
and can take the top off like Pooka can and
(24:33):
he will make some big plays. I'm sure Matthew Stafford
is very very happy to have him. And then defensively,
they were young, they've got to get better and you know,
we saw them take the Eagles down to the wire
last year in the snow, So yeah, I think they are.
They are the favorites to me in certainly in the
West in their division. And then to make a make
(24:56):
a nice run in the playoffs. I see that happening now.
Stafford has to be healthy, right, that's the key, and
it's going to be key for a lot of teams. Right.
The quarterback has to stay upright and stay healthy. And
he's an older one, so they've got to keep him healthy.
That's the big thing. But I think if it need
be and they need Garoppolo to go out and play
(25:19):
two to four games, I think he's fully capable of
winning those games for the Rams. Now, can he carry
you the rest of the season if Stafford is out
Week eight for the rest of the year, I don't
think so. But to step in from time to time
if Matthew Stafford has to go down or it can't
play one week or two, Yeah, they got a quality
experience backup that can handle that. Yeah. I like the
(25:43):
Ram chances a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I gotta be honest with you, and I know the
difficulty in the Chargers with Kansas City, but not.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Just Kansas City. They're gonna have problem with Denver. Denver's
to sleep. Denver's the dark horse. Denver quietly has been
a very good team, and Sean Payton is a very
good coach, and they've got a quarterback in his second
year now after having a great rookie season, and what
they did defensively, Denver is a team to watch out for, seriously,
(26:15):
watch out for. Isn't funny how much of a difference
a real coach makes a real coach. But isn't it funny? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
it definitely does just that, because it's just keeping everything together,
you know, because there are a number of coaches out
there that are very good at x's and o's right,
(26:39):
and then there are other coaches that are very good
at you know, personalities and just being a player friendly guy.
But rarely do you have the ones that are a
combination of both is what you need and just being
able to be organized and then having the team believe
in you is a big deal. And how do you
(27:01):
get that cross across as a as a head coach?
And some people can, some coaches can, and some coaches can't.
What's interesting, too, is how long it takes you to
really turn it around. You know, you hire somebody like
a Sean Pateon, you pay him a lot of money,
and you give him the years to do it. He's
going to do it, but it's not going to happen overnight.
Although I think he's making great strikes quickly. Yeah, I
(27:26):
mean what he took him to the playoffs in year
two of him being there, got you know, made the
bold move to get rid of Russell Wilson with that big,
gigantic contract, went out and got his quarterback, had a
phenomenal year and now you know, they're talked about as
being one of the forces in the AFC that's going
(27:46):
to challenge Kansas City in San Diego. How do you
think how do you think Pete does in Vegas though,
with that new situation being an older coach.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Truly, I think he's going to do pretty well. Rodney
am I nuts. I think he will make a major
difference there. He knows how to do this, and I
think that's a big.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Success to be sustained means you have a system and
you know how to do it. He can't play and
I don't think really it matters if he's older or younger,
to be quite honest with you, he's Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
He knows what he's doing. I think he will actually
do a pretty good job there. Yeah, I think so too.
I think so too. A Pete is one of the
guys that knows how to adapt to Over the years,
he's found that out and he's learned that from this
time at the you know, his first stints at New
England and the Jets, and he's he's talked about it
(28:42):
how he had to adapt as a coach and resetting
at USC. I think did wonders for him to go
up to Seattle and do what he did up there.
But yeah, I think he's I think he'll do well
in Vegas. I think that. And I think they got
the right guy, Gino Smith as their quarterback, because we
talked to Vinnie about that last week. I think that
(29:03):
Gino is a leader, he's a veteran guy. They've got
some veteran guys on that team. I just I'm concerned
about their weapons right now. And then I'm also concerned
how long are they going to give Pete up there
to get it turned around because they're in a tough division.
Oh how long they'll give him? Yeah, they're in a
they're in a tough division. I mean, they got to
(29:23):
get past Kansas City. They gotta they gotta get past uh,
you know, the the Chargers, they gotta you know, And
I said, upcoming Denver team, it's a very difficult They're
they're they're gonna be picked last in their division. So
how long is he going to get to to turn
things around and overtake Kansas City and the Chargers and
(29:44):
you know, Denver a young team. How long he's gonna
get to do it? In Las Vegas. Oh so when
you question and you say how long is it gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Get what, do you think they're not get rid of
them after a year?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
No? No, no, I don't think a year. But I'm
just saying, can't city aren't going into anywhere anytime soon.
I don't think they may not be favorites every year
to win the Super Bowl for the next five but
they're gonna be writing a mix as long as they
got number fifteen pulling the trigger for him. And then
you got to believe the Chargers are gonna make a
step in the right direction. And then Denver the young
(30:20):
team in Denver, like I said, they're pulling up the
rear in their own division. And Chargers are still a
young team and Denver's a very young team. So you
know they're gonna have to make some moves to get
to move up and to be really competitive to the
point where they're winning their division. No, I got it.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I think they will make strides. Sure, I think Geno
Smith's a much better quarterback than I Pat. Can we
agree with that?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, He's definitely an upgrading what they
had in the last five years, six years.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Oh and it was never a question. Even with Antonio Pierce.
The guys played hard. So I think they're gonna play
hard for Pete. And now they have a quarterback that
can playing. So what will be progress five hundred.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
For this year? Yeah? Probably. I don't see them. I
don't see them. I don't see them making the playoffs
number one. I don't see them really being in contention.
But I think they'll be very competitive. I think it's
gonna be a tough out for anybody has to play them,
for sure, But there's too many good teams in their
division right now that that hurts them. Now, if they
(31:33):
were playing in the AFC South, then I would give them,
you know, I'd say they got a chance to go
to the playoffs this.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Year, right, No, I got you. But I mean there
has to be some reality associated with it. I mean,
he's basically starting with a team. I don't want to
say it's ground zero, but it's not great. So if
they're fundamentally sound, if they win the games are supposed
to win, if they're close in the games that they
can't win, I have to tell you, I think they're
(32:01):
gonna be Okay. I do I think Pete gets three years.
I think you have to in year two show substantial progress.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Though oh yeah, oh yeah, this is gonna be a
culture year him building this culture. And then next year
they're gonna have to either make the playoffs or be
very close to making it. And then we'll see in
year three when they when Pete gets to put his
real stamp on the team and get all the guys
he wants to get in there, then we'll see. But
(32:30):
he's a great team builder, so you know, wherever he's gone,
it hadn't taken him long, especially lately, whether USC or
up in Seattle, didn't take him long to get it going.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, so I agree with you. I think he's gonna
be fine. Yeah, it'll take a little time, but that's okay,
that's all right. I think they got a lot better
with him there. Quite honestly, I think they got a
ton better with him there. I know it's very difficult,
the division is very difficult, but they're better because he's there.
(33:01):
So I would not be surprised to see them make
significant strides, all right. Fred Rogan and Rodney Pete on
a five to seventy l A Sports not just talking
more about the Dodgers as they get ready to play
in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
When we come back. Oh yeah, back to wrapping Pete.
Fred Rogan on a Monday Quick show Today Dodgers are
in Cincinnati. One hour spent for Fred. Do you see
any of the any of the Hall of Fame stuff
that it was going on over the weekend. I didn't
see it. Tell me about it. It was good. C
(33:40):
Caesar Matthew went in, Billy Wagner, Dave Parker posthumously went in,
his son gave a great speech, wrote or read a
poem that he wrote to him, which was really cool.
I think Dick Williams went in, and then eachier Ro
(34:02):
eachi Ro went in and had a unbelievable speech. It was,
it was fantastic. And he said it all in English.
He did his whole speech in English, and it was
he had jokes and he did impressions, and it was
(34:23):
it was just fantastic. And he and he looked good.
He looked like he's he's aging gracefully as a Japanese man,
and it looks good on him. And but he was
he was so funny and and I thought it was great.
I thought it was great. And he was just very
appreciative of of being the first Japanese position player to
(34:44):
go into the Hall of Fame. So very cool. His
numbers are ridiculous too, you know, when you really he
came in the league at twenty seven. When you really
look at it, he joined the league at twenty seven
as a rookie and one Rookie of the Year and
the MVP, and those years in Seattle Man he was
I think one year he had two hundred and thirty
(35:06):
six hits or something like that. Hit for over three hundred,
which we'll probably never see again because average is not
that important anymore, and you know, neither are really hits.
It's really about that one hit that you have. You
hit a home run or double or triple that people
care about. But incredible numbers he put together.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's funny when guys going to the Hall of Fame
sometimes you forget about how good they were. Yeah, you know,
I'm standing here now and I'm being enshrined and let
me give you my speech. But you have to be
of a certain age, ranger generation to appreciate that, because
the younger fans don't remember those guys.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
No, like each we know each row. Young fans don't, Yeah,
they don't.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And everything is relative too, So guys that were good
when Babe Ruth played might not be quite as good today.
To be very are honest with you, because it's all relative.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, and you know this because they're Yeah, it's all relative.
And then you know there are certain guys that transcend
any generation, and not a lot of them, but transcend
any generation, any time period, any decade, in all the
different sports. You know another guy too, that that that
(36:24):
that when you really dive into his stats is C. C.
Sabathia CC And we were talking about it. I don't
know where the numbers, I forgot what they said, but
the amount of complete games that he threw while he
was in Cleveland and New York was an incredible number two.
And again you won't see that anymore like the younger generation.
(36:47):
Like you said, nobody goes complete games anymore. But that
used to be a badge of honor for pitchers going
complete games. I went all nine and now it's they
won't even let you do it. Wanted to do it.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And if you think so, the argument is guys throw
harder today, right, and the spin rate is higher, so
their arm is moving at a different position, right.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
But back in the day. Yeah, if you felt good
it you were going. If you felt good, it didn't
matter if you had one hundred and twenty pitches in.
How you feeling, How you feeling, Okay, Yeah, I got
three more out to me, skip, I got three more
in me. Go, Okay, we're gonna leave me in.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
So they did it, by the way, I just looked
it up. So CC threw thirty eight complete games in
his career, and in one year he threw ten. Wow,
ten complete games in one season and he was one two.
He was nine years into his career when he did that.
Nobody would do.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
That to that, nobody not even close ten in one season.
And did it seem like guys got hurt. No, less
of the time pitchers back then, No, yeah they didn't.
They were having twenty starts in third starts and things
like that. Yeah, No, you didn't see it. You did
(38:05):
not see it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
No, it seemed like everybody went out and pitch. You
certainly didn't see this. No, guys, but again, they're throwing
differently now.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, and the bodies got made to throw that, the
Billy Wagners of the world, and the ccs didn't probably
didn't play Little League and travel ball and play ten
months out of the year throwing every week. When they
were growing up, right, you know, they probably played different
(38:38):
sports and they took time off from their arms, so
they didn't have all these coaches and going to these
clinics and throwing and you said, trying to throw as
hard as they can and trying to spend it as
hard as they can at twelve years old, that didn't happen,
all right, Runn a good job today. Thank you, just
to sprint for us one hour. Appreciate you being with us.
Kevin terrific work and Rodney hopefully that out and just
(39:00):
figured this one out today and we'll do it again tomorrow, Yes, sir,
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