July 29, 2024 • 50 mins
The Dodgers traded for utility infielder, Tommy Edman and pitcher, Michael Kopech. David Vassegh joins us to let us know what others moves to expect from the Dodgers with the deadline being tomorrow afternoon. When it comes to the Olympics, why is it so hard to determine if what im watching is live or on tape?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And away we go on a Monday, Rogan and Rodney
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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great Ben Malor in for the guys here on this
Monday as we take you all the way up until
three o'clock. It's a Mallard Monday here on the show.
And Ben Mallor, can you believe it? We are doing
live radio and there are no street lights on? Can
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you believe it? It's shocking, Jonas. I'm sure the police will
be here before we know, be arrested, will be incarcerated.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's not right here. People complaining what are you doing here? Now?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm in the Rodney chair right, So you're in the
Fred chatsa. Is that a better chair than the Rodney chair.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
If we flip a coin on this, I don't know
how that works.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well, you know we were talking about this last week
that the big difference between Fred and Rodney is what
they do on their vacations. So like Rodney goes on
the yacht with Magic Johnson, they're having cavear. They've got
everything lined. I mean it is like legitimate celebrity, superstar, athlete,
TV star, you name it. That's the life Fred. Meanwhile,
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he's in the midst of a baseball tour on the
East Coast, so he's going to see, he's going to
see he's in Baltimore where I'm in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You know, I'm checking out the time your stadium, That's
what I'm doing. Yeah, man, I really got to see
that count Ripkin statue. I just want to see how
accurate it is. You got to get a.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Photo right there and survive my trip to Baltimore. That's
what I have to do. Yes, so it will be
Bet and I here and yes, we are doing it.
We are doing Normally you can hear the Ben Malor
Show eleven PM to three am and a M five
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on who you are and what time you're waking up
and how banged up you got over the weekend. And
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then you can hear myself along with God, what's that
Nickel and Dime sometime former like football quarterback in then
like a big star defensive player that used to play
for you.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But the point is that shows on from three to six, myself,
LeVar Arrington and Brady Quinn. That's those guys, two pros
and a cup of Joe now.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
And the record. Let the record show it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
We do pass in the night, literally ships passing the
night shonas I hand the baton off to you and
three in the morning and I just hell out there
and so to survive. So people understand that in the
passing of the torch or the baton, whatever you will,
in the middle of the night. Ben Mahler has been saying,
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four weeks because what we like to talk about in
those moments is nothing about like meltdowns by fellow radio
industry people on social media. That's definitely not what we
would want to discuss or anything like that. While we
are passing the baton. Instead, Ben Maller has been saying,
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four weeks. I'm telling you, if the Dodgers got a
shot here, it involves Tommy Edmund and Michael Kopick. Yeah
like that.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That has been.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
That has been what you have been calling for, and
your wish has been granted, Ben Mallor.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. Jonas.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'm a little excited I'm a little a little tingley.
I mean, this is you talk about a big time trade.
I mean, what is Fred Claire back running the Dodgers.
Like one of my favorite stories, Jonas, when I was
around the Dodgers a lot back in the day and
I was beloved out there was the trade deadline.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The Dodgers made a deal right before the.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Deadline, and I think it was like they got like
Otis Nixon or something.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And that was the whole name.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
But uh, the way Fred talked about you know, the
gem at the time, talked about him, you would have
thought this was like Willie Mays. Uh, And it was
just I mean, listen, Tommy, that we got Tommy Edmund,
Oh my god, come on, buy your tickets right now.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Tommy Edmand's coming to don it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
He's playing as much as you have, Jonas. And now
so the what what he goes there?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
In return?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Miguel Vargus, who has been a very popular minor leaguer
for the Dodgers in their system. David Vassil have more
on that. They sent over a couple of other prospects
as well too, But the Tommy Edmond side of it,
tell me, if this sounds familiar or sounds like something.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That the Dodgers have dealt with this year.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
He's injured, Yeah, like he has not, he has not late. Yeah,
he's been a spectator. He buy some popcorn and apparently
while working to come back from his injury. You know,
it's been a little bit slowed as of late because
an ankle issue popped up or something like that. So
that is that is where we're at with that. And
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then Kopik, you know, he's been with the White Sox
for several years. He was part of the Chris Sale
trade back and I believe the nineteen seventies when that
one got done. He's got a you know, he's bullpen help.
He's got a four to seven four ERA throughout the
course of the season. They feel like this is going
to help bolster that bullpen who's been a little bit
shaky at times obviously. But that being said, you like
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to call it like you see it when it comes
to the Dodgers. Takeaway from the deal, is this the
only one we're gonna see Ben Mallor for.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Your owne Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
No, everyone took less money Jonas so they could load
up the team at the deadline. They've got one more
day to go tomorrow. Oh, I guess tomorrow in three hours.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
They got twenty seven hours till the trade deadline on Tuesday,
so they've got time to make a trade, a big trade,
a meaningful trade, like Tommy Edmond come on. And then
Michael Kopek. That guy, you know what he is, Jonas,
He's a monet. He looks better from a distance. He's
big guy, big pitcher, power arm.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
All the scouts get all excited about him, and he
hasn't performed.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
He has not pitched well as a big league pitch.
Certainly the last couple of years he's been terrible. Let
me guess I'm gonna say that. Vessey when he.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Comes on, here's saying, well, he's pitched well the last
ten games or something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You know, it's one of those on a morbid White
Sox team. Have you seen the Whites?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I know you like Chicago little bit Jones, but oh
pub a White Sox guy, like god.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Theyrible, They are brutal.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Listen, there's nothing better than when the White Sox are
bad and just giving a shout out and making a
phone called to Mike North and just put the phone
down on speaker phone and let him talk for fifteen
minutes straight on the White Sox and how and how
bad they are. So you know, uh, Copek comes over
in this deal. You've got Tommy Edmund. I wonder this,
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and tell me if this is a crazy thought, because
I wondered about this as well too, because Dave Roberts
was talking about potential moves after this series against the Astros,
and you know there's a lot going on with that.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I mean, you know, not ideal to lose two or
three to the Astros and five run leads, five run
lead Jonas and and it was Bregman two who you
know who did the dance.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So it doesn't count because he's a cheater, So it
doesn't count, all right, So we wipe that one away. Yeah,
see that's a win or a tie.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
So the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So so they split the series a three game series
with the Astros. We'll call it that one and a
half wins each. We'll call it that. And we're gonna
look at it. Look at that the positive way, I think,
and and this has been my takeaway on the team
over the past couple of weeks. I think they're looking around,
going you know, maybe we should just wait and see
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if everybody gets healthy. You know, like there's there's a
lot of talent that's on the injured list that's been
on the I L. By the way, Ben, you cannot
say the d L anymore. I just want you to
know that I'm old school, Jonas, I'm from the old country.
Just want to be clear here. We don't want to
offend anybody, all right, there's been a lot of that
going on here. If anybody saw that, Ceronia and Jonas.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
The world's a much calmer place since Major League Baseball
got rid of the disabled list. I think we're all
nicer to each other and there's less people making fun
of each time.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's wonderful. That'll fix it, you know, they.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Have they gotten rid of handicapped parking, Jonas, is that
still a thing they still have that?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I'm still a thing?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But the I L has been riddled with Dodgers over
the past several months here since the season started. The
only one and maybe vast sale have more on this
as well too. That's a little weird, as Max Muncy like,
it seemed like it was a minor injury two months later,
still the same thing. Dave Roberts doesn't seem to have
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any answers. But that being said, I wonder if their
approach is just listen, we're gonna get healthy, like that's
gonna be our best bet. Why give away some of
the best in our farm system to add some rental players,
and we feel like these guys are right around the
corner from getting better, getting back with the big league club,
and then we make a run for this thing with
the roster that we initially thought we were going to
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have coming into the season.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
All right, So first of all, watching the team recently,
does seem like they are I don't know if they've plateaued.
They played well against the Red Sox, Fine, they came
back in those games not that long ago, But it
does seem like they're just kind of playing in neutral
spinning their wheels a little bit right now. But I
don't want to hear the Dodgers waiting for guys to
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come back off the injured list, because that's what the
Dodgers used to do. This is the golden era of
Dodger baseball. This is not like that period of time,
and now you make it trade and the minor league
system I have long been an advocate of trading minor
league players, and the Dodgers very rarely have gotten burned
trading away minor league players. In this run they've been
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on where they've traded a lot of their their mining players.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And every year it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
In spring training or in the offseason they come out
with a new list of top prospects.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
So even if you trade, it's a renewable resource.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It's like being a farmer and being sad that you
have to get rid of your crop. Well you can
plan a new crop, and you can make more, and
it can come back. And so No, the whole point
of having a minor league system is to enhance the
big league team, and the Dodgers get that right.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And but this trade that they made.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I mean, this is a nice starter trade if you
want to be positive and and and put sugar all over,
he said, with Tommy Edmund's a glue guy and all that.
I'm not going there. But that is not never can
As Ernest Hemingway said, Jones never confused movement with action,
so that in itself was did not.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Get me all excited. But there's a bigger trade on
the horizon here.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I would I would assume that there is, because like
if you were to say, right now, if somebody pulled
you aside and said, hey, if you could just sit
like carve out and just point to the biggest issue
with the Dodgers of this season, it's been what health Like,
health's been the biggest issue, which is odd because they
have all the top trainers and all the top many
people and they all still get hurt anything. And what
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might be even more odd is the fact that if
health's a big issue, why did you just trade for
a guy who hasn't played all year because he's not healthy, Like,
you're not supposed to call there Jonas will swung with you.
I'm just I'm just I'm just wondering, Like, so, what
is the next move? Randy rose Arena was supposed to
be a trade target. He was gone last week. It
feels like moves of like Dave Roberts even said this
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put which I have not heard Dave Roberts be this
blunt about things where he's basically I don't know if
you don't if you want to say calling out the
front office, I don't think he was doing that, but
he basically just said, yeah, you know there are some
moves to be made, but a couple of the bigger
ones have already gone by, and so maybe we're looking
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at some smaller moves coming around the corner. And I
wonder if he thought that there would be more help
on the way, and if there's just sort of this,
you know, I like tug a war between Hey, listen,
you've got to produce with what you've got. Those guys
are gonna get better, But don't expect a big time,
blockbuster move. We'll add a couple of small pieces, but
we feel like what we have that's coming back is
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going to be the move. And Dave Roberts is maybe
looking around going no, I think there are bigger issues.
So I just wonder how concerning it. I said it
last week. I'm not concerned at all. I think they're
gonna win the World Series. There's something about this team.
I get the vibe and the feeling. I felt that
I feel better about this team than some of the
other ones that have been to the postseason recently that
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have faltered. Why would that be, Joes, I, Well, to me,
this is more of the same. We don't know what
Otani's gonna do. I hope they win the World Series
every year, you know, Jones, I hope they win every year,
all right, But it's the same situation. Are they gonna
be able to hit? Are they gonna be out there
and and and totally limp like they've been the last
couple of postseasons offensively and just have no spark. And
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you know, because all these wins in the regular seasons, great,
and they're gonna win the National League West again going away.
But yet ultimately, all that matters is what you do
in the moment in the postseason. And the last couple
of years in baseball, we have seen dog food regular
season teams like the Diamondbacks and the Phillies a couple
of years ago, the Atlanta Braves of the year they
won the World Series, they were not a great regular
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season and the Nationals a few years back, they weren't
a good regular season team and they all won the
World Series.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So it's like it's it's it's.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
A weird thing because you want to win every regular
season game, and yet all that matters is do you
hit or you're gonna be bowling in the offseason. Here's
why I'm a law of averages guy. When it comes
to gambling and all. I'll use roulette as the example. Now,
I was going to say to you, you know, Ben,
when you're walking through a casino in Vegas, except you
and I do the overnight. So Ben, when you're walking
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through a casino at State Line, like say you're a
Whiskey Pete okay, and you're at Whiskey Petees and bills
great roller coaster right across the way. Yeah, and you
see the although it took a little while to get
there this weekend according to some of the traffic reports, apparently.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Old friend JT the breck.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Apparently it's an issue is getting you back to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
A lithium battery truck just went up in flames. What
are the odds?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I hate when that happens. You know, we're weird, weird
situation there. But nonetheless, you get to Whiskey Pets. You're there,
you see the Roulette board and it says, hey, it's
hit black like eleven times in a row. I'm the
guy that I don't care that this doesn't actually apply
to Roulette. I look at it from a law of
average standpoint, Well, what are the chances it's going to
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hit black at well, the same as it's going to
hit red as a matter of fact, Like that's how
roulette work, Like, you know, Green's a little bit lower
than that obviously, But yeah, I would go Red every
single time. I think this is going to be the
year that while everybody's expecting the doom and gloom, while
everybody's expecting the falter and everybody's expecting the Bats to
go quiet again, I'm expecting the Dodgers are going to respond.
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I think go Tani's gonna have a great postseason. I
think Mookie Betts is going to improve because there's no
other way to go but up based on last year.
And I think this team is still a World Series
team despite some of the people that are a little
bit stressed out because the trade deadline's right around the
corner and so far they've added a guy who hasn't
played it all this year because of injury, and Michael Kopik,
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who was part of a Chris Sale trade for the
White Sox years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, I like your optimism. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Benny Bright said on this I wish I was, because
I got to see I gotta see this how this
plays out in the playoffs. The last couple of years
have sullied me on this, and they do say in
the gambling world Jonas that the law of averages is
known as wishful thinking.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yes, they do make a lot of They do make
a lot of money. Right, how many you're you like
the Cubs? How many years did people bet on the
Cubs to win the world There were people went to
Vegas every year to bet on the Cubs. Eventually they
did win, but you know, for years they didn't win.
The Red Sox were the same thing. Thest have this
thing called the Curse of the Bambino.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Right, they didn't win any people kept betting on them
and they never they ever want anything.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Which which, by the way, why do you get the Moniker?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Which I think is disrespect and as our old friend
Tony Bruno would say, it's an outrag.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's an outrage.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Why did you get the Moniker? The great the Curse
of the Benbino.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Oh, the Curse of Banino?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yes, because I would make these bold decrees on my
show that something was going to happen, and I'd pick
NFL games and inevitably someone would break their ankle or
they would you know, a key player would get hurt
or I would you know, unexpected thing would happen, I
would lose. It was and this is, this has happened
for my entire career handicapping, which of course is why
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I did a TV show last year handicapping the NFL.
Because everything I say the because it happens. I cannot
win Jonas, I cannot.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Win at all. But I want again.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I want to see the Dodgers do something big here.
The whole point of Otani taking less money there were
two things. A, he's getting one hundred million dollars a
year for endorsements, and B he wanted the team to
improve the roster. And also see he wants better tax
down the line tax situation.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And also you gotta be you gotta make a big
sexy move.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I would have loved Randy Roserena. That's the guy that
I wanted. I know he's had a terrible year for
Tampa Bay. He went to Seattle. That guy had some
Erasmataz in the playoffs with Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That's the guy I wanted.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
You can't get him now, so now you've got to
pivot and get somebody else. And a lot of these names,
I don't know if you're like, me, Jo's I like baseball.
But a lot of these names that.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I'm seeing that are being floated in the speculation from
the insiders, they all kind of numb to them, like
they just kind of seem like a lot of the same.
There's no there's no blockbuster move this year.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, Like there's no real exciting name that you're like,
Oh my god, that that's that that's one that that
people have got to discuss like that, that's one that
we've got to break down and cover. And what his
legacy was with his former team, It's like no, like
there's going to be small pieces, small additions that are made,
and that's just sort of what what how this whole
thing is going to go? And you know, when it
comes to the Randy Rose Arena, I think the bigger
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question I have is why the hell did he think
it was normal behavior to after being traded bringing his
family to go sit in the stands and watch a
few innings of the Rays following the trade. I don't
know if you saw that over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I didn't. Well, maybe they're a big fans the team
and they're sad they have to go.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So even the even the announcers when they spotted him
in the crowd. He's sitting in the outfield with his
family watching the raid. This is after he gets traded.
Even the announcers are right, Jonas, he loves ball. Jonas,
the guy loves ball. Like I mean, a lot of
these guys hate baseball. He's having to be good at it.
This guy loves ball. Okay, he's out there. He's a
pillar of the community. He's sad.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I mean, it's very difficult when you can't go to
a Rays game with your you know, four hundred of
your favorite friends there that go to Rays games. And
did he give a keynote address.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
On his way out?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I mean, listen, all I know is that even the
announcer said, yeah, that's weird, Like that's a little that's
a little odd. That doesn't seemingly happen happen every day.
And I don't know about you, but you know, when
a former employer tells me we don't want you anymore,
the last place I'm going to give any time or
attention to is.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That former employer. Like that's how that works.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
The only reason I take my son to Chuck E
Cheese is because they didn't fire me back in the day.
Otherwise I'd be going somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, places I
used to work when they get rid of me. Normally,
would I do two things. I have a bonfire and
I burn all the stuff that they gave me that
has their logo on it. That's number one. And then
number two. My next move here, and this is probably
the most important thing, is I go on Amazon, I
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buy a voodoo kit and I put a curse on them.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So that's what voodoo boogaaloo. That's my next thing.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I mean, listen, and that's normal, Like all of that
is appropriate here. If somebody's going to burn you, it's
okay to light the flame back. That's my mentality. Yeah.
So we didn't start the fire, Jonas, but you know
they started it and we got to take.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Care of it, damn right. Yeah, my goodness.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
So there's one man who can break it all down.
The trade the Dodgers did pull off and the one
that might be right around the corner, and that man
is David Vassa and he joins you next interesting Rogan
and Rodney a five seventy l a sports. He's been
mallor I'm Jonas knocks in for the guys here on
a Monday morning works Monday morning, Jesus, Monday afternoon. It
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is morning somewhere, but not not here. It's in Hawaii,
it's morning. That's right in Alaska, it's in the morning.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Still I think in Guam. I don't know Vic the
Brick from Guam, don't Is he really fixed from Guam? Well,
he worked there. That's the famous Victor Brick story. He
worked with after college.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
By the way, have you been monitoring Victor Bricks sumo
coverage via social media?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I have missed out on this. It is Oh, it's
so good. Fans feel you.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
And he's a yokozuna is oh yeah, he's got it
on lock by the way, coming up and we'll call
it about a little over twenty minutes from now, from
on AM five to seventy l A Sports, we're going
to tell you how there's a giant event going on.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And it just it's really confusing in the world of sports.
So that'll be yours here again about a little over
twenty minutes from now.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
There's a lot of confusing.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
There's a lot of confusion, Like people turn on the
radio they want to hear Fred and Rodney and they
here like.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
You and me.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I know that's confusing for people. Well, you know it's
no confusing that.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
If you need answers about what the hell is the
plan for the Dodgers around the trade deadline, there's only
one place you go, and it's David David Vasse, who
is joining us here on AM five to seventy LA Sports. Dave.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
What's happening Happy Monday too?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
How's the off day treating you?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I was going great until I heard Ben's voice.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Oh no, look at this guy, this guy Massa takes
potshots at me, pot shots at me, his little Dodger
talk show. After this, yeah, yeah, yeah, I say, why
do you go massage a Dodger player again?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Come on along with you?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Okay, I'll there you God much jealousy and envy.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Hey, so, Dave right away?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Initial thoughts on the move that was made Tommy Edmund,
Michael Kopek, who come over from the White Sox and
from the Cardinals. They are now members of the Dodgers
trade deadline right around the corner. What are your thoughts
on the deal?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Well, I've talked to a few different scouts around the
league regarding this trade Number one Tommy Edmund. The plan
for the Dodgers acquiring him is for him to play
center field, and also if they need him to fill
in on certain days at shortstop or second base, he
can do that as well. But my understanding is the
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primary position that Tommy Edmund is going to play for
the Dodgers is center field, where defense was starting to
get a little shaky out there with Andy Pajs. And
what does this mean for Andy Pajes. It means that
Andy PAHs slides over to the position where he's more
comfortable at, and that's right field. He and Jason Hayward
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will now platoon in right field with Tommy Edmund playing
center field every day. As far as Michael Kopek goes
from my understanding, is coming to the Dodgers and getting
out of Chicago like so many guys, it's going to
be a huge boost for him. He's got big stuff.
He's a fastball upwards of ninety seven to one hundred
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miles an hour, he's got a slider, and Dodger pitching
coach Connor McGinnis is regarded as the best as far
as refining what other pitching coaches or pitchers are missing,
so this is a by low but a high ceiling
trade for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So essentially it's a starter.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It's an appetizer vestment, and there's a bigger trade coming right.
Who's the big trade? Give me the name right now, Vessa.
The trade deadlines to the mom at three pm.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Who they get?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And they getting the pitcher and a relief pitcher and outfielder.
What direction do they go? What's the big name they're
gonna get. This is not a big name, tit. This
is not a sexy trade, So what's the big trade
they're gonna make?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
All right? I feel like they made all their sexy
moves during the offseason. How many MVPs do you want
on the team, Ben Mallard.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I would like to.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I would like two more till they win the World Series,
because they clearly don't have enough until they win another
World Series.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Well, I feel like what they're missing is a guy
like Tommy Edmund who's a steady player who does the
little things that the Dodgers have been unable to do
in the postseason. I think a big problem with the
Dodgers so far this year has been their role players
not understanding their role players, and they're not Freddie Freeman,
they're not Mookie Betts. And Tommy Edmond understands who he
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is as a player and he's definitely a steady ball player. Look,
the Dodgers have tried to entice the Tigers to engage
in trade talks for Tarts School, but they are not
going to trade him. The Tigers are just not trading
Derek Schouble. Between now and three o'clock tomorrow, things can
obviously change, but they have been telling teams, not just
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the Dodgers, they are not trading him. Garrett Crochet with
his demands of wanting an extension that raised red flags
around the industry that maybe he's not as sound health
wise as he and the White Sox want you to believe,
because that seems like, all right, give us our money now,
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and if he breaks down again, that's on you and
we'll go to the bank. So with this trade with
the White Sox, I don't see Garrett Crochet trade happening.
There's one starter that's still out there that would be
an impact starter, and that's Harvard Westlake's own Jack Flaherty,
who was scratched from his start tonight by the Tigers
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in order to keep him healthy and nothing go whacky
in a start today, so he could be traded between
now and tomorrow at three o'clock Pacific, Dave, how.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Much of the Dodgers may be like, if there's not
another blockbuster move or any move whatever from the Dodgers
to be made here, how much of that is there
thinking that, look, we just need to get healthy, Like
we've got guys that are coming back, and let's focus
on those guys coming back and the lineup we thought
we were going to have going into the season. As
you pointed out, what they did in the offseason is
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the team they thought they were going to chase a
World Series with. How much of this is them expecting
healthy results as opposed to what they've gotten thus far.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Well, that's going to be part of this. But even
if these guys were healthy, it feels like the Dodgers
were still going to add another arm in the bullpen.
They were going to shore up the outfield because that's
been somewhat unsettled since the beginning of the year, since
James Outman took a couple of steps backwards. So they
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were always going to make a trade like this to
shore it up. What they weren't expecting having to do
was to find a starting pitcher that was, you know,
a number two or a number three in a playoffs series.
They thought they had that covered with Glass now and Yamamoto.
But the Dodgers are confident right now that Yamamoto will
be able to come back. He's going a bullpen session
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tomorrow in Los Angeles. Excuse me, I got my days
mixed up Friday in Los Angeles. He's been long tossing
from center field to left field, so his shoulder seems
pretty good. But look, another obstacle here for the Dodgers
to make what Ben Maller wants as a blockbuster trade
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is the fact that there are so many teams, so
many average teams that are just three and a half
games out of a wildcard spot, like the San Francisco Giants.
So that has complicated buyers and sellers and the lack
of this market, and many executives I've talked to believe
that if you're going to add this extra wildcard teams
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to the postseason, you've got to move the trade deadline
back to August fifteenth, so there could be more of
a definitive line of who was a buyer and a
seller at that point.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Well, see, that's the problem, David, is that there's too
many full contenders in baseball. And unlike in football, if
you're a full contender, you can get to the World
Series like the Diamondbacks last year. You don't have to
have a sexy record like the Dodgers, which is a
it's a blessing and a curse in baseball, and it's
problem back.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I wanted to run by the.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Pitching thing because for the last I don't know how
many years, the Dodgers have been very precise with young pitchers.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
You've talked about it on your little Dodger talk show
of essay that they have.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
They limit the innings, they limit pitches, right, And every
time I look up, someone's having Tommy John surgery. So
is it time to reevaluate what the Dodgers are doing?
Because this is a pet peeve of mine. These blue
chip pitchers come up and one after another goes down
to some elbow issue or shoulder issue.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And yet it makes no sense to me. I'm not
that smart if I say, you're smarter than me.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
So they keep paying the pitchers, and yet they keep
getting hurt so should they try something else.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm just asking for a friend.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I'm with you, Ben, I'm not sure if you ever
had a chance to talk to Sandy Kofax when you
did Dodger talk for four months, but.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Out there it was six months. It was six months.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Okay, you've moved on to bigger and better things in
the middle of the night. As far as Sandy Kofax,
Sandy Kofax always said, you don't train for a marathon
by running sprints, and he likened it to pitching. If
you're going to be a starting pitcher, wouldn't it make
sense to throw more long toss more. If you're going
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to go one hundred pitches and you're going to go six, seven,
hopefully nine innings, to throw more. I believe that the industry,
from what I understand, is going to reevaluate how they
trained pitchers, and it goes down to the youth levels.
I mean, this is a discussion that can go on
for hours, but it goes down to the high school
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level and the way those kids are being trained. So
it's not just starting at the major league level the
Dodgers or any other team in the minor leagues. It
goes all the way to high school. And I think
everybody needs to start reevaluating that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Dave, what the hell's going on with Max Mounsey, Like,
what is that? Dave Roberts even seems like he's a
little bit perplexed as to what his status is.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
What can you tell us?
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Well, Dave Roberts said yesterday they have taken scans on
Monsey's oblique and it shows no injury anymore. So he
stopped short of saying it's a pain tolerance issue. But
I don't have to stop short. It's a pain tolerance issue.
The Dodgers need Max Mounsey to go out there and
start playing again and not try to make it that
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he's one hundred percent perfect. Nobody's perfect at this time
of the season as far as their health or the
way they feel. The Dodgers need him to start, you know,
just pushing through this and trusting that he is sound
mind and body. And Dave Roberts sounded very frustrated yesterday.
You're right, Jonas, and uh, they need monthly back because
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they are missing a big piece at third base. If
you look at the Dodgers' third basement since Monsey went
on the il and just for the entire year. They
are absolute franchise franchise lows in the last fifty years
as far as banging average on base, all of that stuff,
it's been abysmal there.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
All right, I say, this is my last my last
chance here. So why are you hanging out with all
of my enemies?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
What did you when you you?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I remember you when you were you started out as say,
we all started out together, and now you're hanging out
with Blake Snell. Bro I'm risking my life and William Shatner.
You had Shatner on Dodger Talking the Other's wrong with you?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
What you wanted to meet me?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Are you gonna give you out to meet? Are you
gonna interview?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Are you gonna.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Give you all to a next Is he gonna be
on Dodger Talker? Are you gonna get pregnant on there?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Not?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
There that's wrong with you that you've gone to the
dark side.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
You're the only person that had the guts to go
I to Iowa Carlos Korea and ask him and keep
him accountable. Last year at Dodger Stadium. William Shatner is
an enemy of yours. I mean, maybe you need to
look in the mirror ben. Is it everybody else or
is it you.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
William shat Listen that guy.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
You know, one of my listeners had to be five
hundred dollars to get me unblocked on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It was called Twitter then wanted he blocked. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I could, I wouldn't pay. I couldn't afford that I
do Overnight. I'm not rich, Like, do you doing Dodger programming?
Vaste over hey.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
By the way, by the way, Shatner blocked me too,
like a stray from.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
You were collateral damage. Yeah, so shat Yeah, the backstory
in that for those you know, it's during the day Jonas,
there's new people. For sure, I'm friends and actually knows
this guy. I'm gonna drop it in Fred Dryer TV's Hunter, right,
great man, Fred Dryer. And so he started sending me
messages on on X and I had him on the
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Overnight show a couple of times, and Fred starts tagging
me and Shatner. So then Shatner starts responding to me.
So then I started responding to Shatner on social media.
And then he started getting annoyed that he thought, you know,
I was pretending like we were friends. And then he
got annoyed, and then things blew up. It escalated, things
got out of control. And there was one night William
Shatton was on a flight from la to Germany, and
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he was on a plane all night and he kept
trying to block everyone that was associated with my show,
and he started accidentally following William Shatner Hollywood Icon was
like following the guy that cleaned the toilets at the
the Arco station.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It was a while. What a night, an amazing night.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Now Dave's you know, Reven Elbows and now he's hanging
out with him and Blake Snell and all these mortal enemies.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Oh yeah, Blake Snell, two time Cy Young Award winner,
that was very available this offseason.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
He's not a Dodger. I don't want him on the Dodgers.
The guy's a five inning pitcher. I'm I don't need
that guy.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Oh really, did you see him strike out fifteen and
six innings?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Who is that against me? Who is that against a
minor league team? A minor league glorified team.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Did you see did you see a seven perfect innings?
Before the All Star breakdown?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Late got a room to get a room for him.
I mean, my god, Blake's bro. I'm I'm not playing
unless I get mine bro.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
The Dodgers. Dodgers need a starting pitcher. Blake Snell is
very available.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
No, he's a giant, He's I don't nothing to do
with him. Nothing to do with that.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
I mean, are you a fan or are you an
objective person? Here?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I'm an ejective. I know I'm objective. I realized that
I don't want the guy on my team. That's it.
I don't want the guy. That's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
He's been to Dodger Stadium more than Ben Meller has
this year.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm not well. I'm not invited since Pani came in there.
They don't want me out there.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
The Dodgery PR staff don't want me out there. What
do you want to do with your best I'd go
out there. I'd be out there all the time in
a one game. They don't want me out there. Thirty
years I was out there.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
The Dodger PR people don't want me out there. I
don't know that just because I've gone against Vessa.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
That might be why. Hey, Dave, what's on tap for
the day off?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Are you gonna go have a you know, get on
the liver Lube like around three four o'clock and just
fade away into Bolivion like the old Mike Tyson QUI
I wish, I.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Wish Jonas this day off in San Diego has fallen
on a bad day. I got to keep my phone
charge for all these calls and text that are coming
in as they get closer to three o'clock tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Gotcha, now your phone will works? Say if you're walking
like you know, in the beach there, Pacific Beach, you
could be walking there. Possibly go to the museums over
there and La Joya. You can check that out as well.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
All well, very very cultured expertise from Ben Maller right.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
There, I dominated the mighty six to ninety back in
the day.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Dominated Maybe I'll go check in with Mado.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
That's fun, your perfect time for your fall time. Thank god,
damn any Machado. Could that have not happened sooner? Why
does waited this long for his phone to die? Dave,
enjoy it. Dodgers are in San Diego to take on
the Pods. Next couple of games. Off today, but back
I'm back on tomorrow and Wednesday. Appreciate the time, Enjoy
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the rest of the day and uh, you know, best
of luck out there.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Okay, thanks a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
There is Dodger Stadium, South jonas you know, yes, it
is Southern version of Dodger Stadium. The Great David Vass
with us here on AM five seventy l A Sports.
By the way, if you are a big fan of
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Speaking of sports, we got a problem, very very confusing situation.
It involves a lot of people on this planet. Will
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explain why that is next here on A five seventy
Oh Man.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I hear this song every day.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Because Ben plays it in his Rolls Royce as he
leaves the parking lot at Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah. I've been at about two fifty five AM, so
little Hot Wheels Rolls Royce I got on the internet.
It's pretty cool, right, that's that right there? Roll that out,
I mean wonderful And for those of you wondering, damn,
this is bumping.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Why it's been played so much because Today's Afternoon Delight
is oh sh by Ice Spice. This song features Travis
Scott and is one of ten tracks that appears on
the rappers debut solo album entitled Y two K, which
debuted over the weekend. The song was accompanied by a
music video, which received over a million streams within the
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first few hours of being posted. Again, Today's Afternoon Delight
is oh sh by Ice Spice featuring Travis Scott, so
Ben mallor.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
The Olympics.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Oh, by the way, coming up top of next hour,
We've got a discussion we need to have here on
the air because I feel like it involves everybody who
has grown up a sports fan in this town. One
of the most relatable topics we will do coming up
top of next hour, A.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Little over top, man, you got me relatable? Come on now.
So the Olympics have a problem, all right now.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
It's not the fact that they had some guy with
his belt berries hanging out during the opening ceremony.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Jones like you slowed it down.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I know you're a tellustrator out you were looking at it.
I love how people are like, no, that's not what
it was. It was just an illusion. Okay, all right,
yeah that wasn't what it was. That was that was
his thigh, because everybody's got a skin tag on their
thigh like that. Okay, yeah, you got it, like that
was your guy, Justin Cooper, your producer. I was trying
to make that.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, it's called it's called gas lighting. You might want
to look it up, called gas lighting.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
It's that's the But here's here's my issue with the Olympics.
I don't know when these events are live and which
ones are taped. And for guys like you and I
who are doing you know, radio in the middle of
the night, and we're looking for live sporting events and
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it's not the Australian Open or you know, the the
the Open Championship in golf. We're looking for live sporting
events and I don't know which of these events is live.
I don't know what's happening. I don't know when they're
taking about. So there's two thought. Number No one is
I agree with you. I only want to watch live sports.
I don't watch sports on tape. I'm not a guy
that records. Some people can record NFL games.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
I have to watch it live otherwise I don't want
to watch it. And so that's the first thing. The
second thing is if you don't know the outcome, and
it's very hard to find the results of like table
tennis or ping pong whatever at the Olympics, so kind
of is live, right, you don't know what when it
was played, or you don't know who won or anything
like that. And like last night I was I was
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doing the Overnight Show and I saw our friend, old
friend Amy van dykn was doing the NBC Swimming's awesome
by that and I would love Amy, and so I
was like, oh, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I'll check that out. But I, like you, I didn't
know if it was live or not. I was trying.
I went on my phone. I was fuxing around with
my phone trying to like, what time is it in Paris?
Is this actually live?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I was like, well, probably not because of the time
difference it's in the morning, but maybe it is, because
maybe they're doing it in the morning. It is confused, yeah,
very confusing, And look, maybe I'm outing myself a little
bit here. But you know, if you're somebody who who
you know, maybe likes to go to the window, as
they say, and gamble a little bit, sure, you need
these events to be live, like, you need to know
what's happening and whether or not these events are live.
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I do like though, how even at the Olympics over
in Paris, the NBA still figured out a way to
infuse it with some drama. You know, some of this
NBA drama that is so much fun that people cover
because the latest is, well, why didn't Jason Tatum play?
And what's really going on there? And you've got Jalen
Brown and is it Nike? Is it like that whole
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discussion and that whole fiasco. We like, they can't even
just go over and beat Serbia without there being some
takeaway that is a negative look on the NBA stirring
up more drama. Well, it really is amazing, Jones.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
It's wonderful that Lebron James came out and said this
team is so good on any given night, anyone can dominate, right,
And then at the same time, you're right, Jason Tatum
gets benched, which is very upsetting, distressing, to the Celtic
people that that's heartbreaking. It does not even you know,
he doesn't play in the first game in the Olympics,
so you've got that. And now call me a conspiracy
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theory guy. But how much is Nike spending on the
team USA Olympic squad? I pretty sure it's in the millions,
if not billions, because they're gonna deal he has a
significant amount of money.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
So is it.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Outrageous to think that final edit, final cut on who's
there and who's not would come down to somebody at Nike.
I mean, is Jalen Brown's done some kind of weird
things over the years, But that doesn't seem outrageous.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
To me by it.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
If that's if that's how this is being operated, and
you know, they can try and say, oh, well, no
difficult decisions were made and this like if the idea
was we're putting the best players in basketball right now
on this team to try and chase a gold medal.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
It's not like Jalen Brown didn't want to be a
part of the team. Like he wanted to be a
part of the team.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
He just won Eastern Conference Finals, mv NBA Finals, MVP.
He's one of the better players on the planet. The
fact that he's not on the team but Derek White,
his teammate, is, is a little weird. And to further
the conspiracy theory, there are some people that have wondered
if maybe this is Steve Kerr, Eric Spolstra and who
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else knows who else is involved that is trying to
create some sort of a divide between Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum,
Derek White Jalen Brown and try and get in there
and blow everything up because they see this team could
be a problem for the next several years in the league.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Well, Jalen Brown, to my knowledge, I don't think he
has a shoe deal. He wasn't now I think Adidas,
But yes, they for some reason they got rid of him.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It didn't work out. I guess he wasn't selling shoes
and so now he's a free agent.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
The counter argument be, if you're Nike, wouldn't you want
to bring Jalen Brown in to try to work out
some kind of an agreement and bring him in. But
in terms of the Nike influence on that, it always
goes back to the term. I think it was the
CIA came up with plausible deniability. Right, Well, we didn't
technically make the decision. We recommended that Jalen Brown not
be on the team.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
We did.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
We're not the ones that did it. Team USA did it,
so we didn't. You know, he's he's wrong. It's no conspiracy.
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Well, another thing that's wrong with the Nike angle. And
I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this.
And maybe there's less of an argument now because he
went like eight for eight and made all.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Of his shots yesterday.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
But Kevin Durant, who had not practiced the entire exhibition
cycle for any of these series or anything, versus Kawhi Leonard,
who by all accounts was fully healthy, and Kawhi got
sent home and Kevin Durant is still playing last time
I checked, Kevin Durant is a Nike guy and Kawhi
Leonard is rocking new balances.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I mean, not sure has anything to do with it
or not, but very interesting.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Ben Mallard and by the way, Kevin figures can attest
to this. I give when I give credit to real
Clipper fans, I list a couple of names. Ben Mallard,
Adam Auslin, Okay, Marcellus Wiley, sure and that's pretty much it.
But no, the names that I mentioned, No Clipper, Darryl,
he's not on there. I mean, I think he's still
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in the er if I'm not mistaken. After all, he'll be.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Seeing it downtown.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
But he's back once they move into that into it
in the Palace, the taj Mahall and Inglewood.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah, I just be there.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Like when he got that modified reverse neck breaker off
the railing by that security guard, I just figured, you know,
he's going to be away for a little while.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
I thought it was pretty good security there, you know,
keep him on the line. Very north Korean of the
security staff noticed Staples Center. Yes, it doesn't matter who
you are.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
None of the other security guards around we had any
problem with it, except for that one guy. Like he
was the only one who decided he was going to
take matters into his own head.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Is callings.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
But when you see that Kawhi Leonard, who is healthy
and gets sent home because he wears new balance, I mean,
and Kevin Durant as Kevin, you know, as as Kevin
figures pointed out, gets the nod over Kawhi Leonard. I mean,
you are a die hard through and through. Kawhi Leonard fan,
how does that land with you as a Clippers fan, Well, it.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Would have been nice to see him in the Olympics,
because I am actually watching the Olympics. But Kawhi as
a Clipper has been a lightweight. Let's call it like
it is. He's very fragile, and so they got to
find a way in the next couple of years because
Kawhi is going to be out of his athletic prime soon,
so they've got to find a way to get him
to actually stay healthy for an entire playoff run. He
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has been here for several years now, and every year
he has gotten hurt. So as far as like the
Olympic thing, it would have been cool to watch him
in the Olympics because he would have dominated the Olympics
and would have done very well and all that would
have been wonderful to watch. But I'm more concerned about
the Summer of twenty twenty five Jones, the Summer of
Love when the Clippers. You talk about opening up a
new arena in style with James Harden on one side
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and Kawhi Landed on the other, and the most outrageous championship.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Run in NBA.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
His people, I can't believe that team went all the
way to the NBA fund. Nobody had them in the
fun That's what I'm worried about. No, I'm not worried
about the olymp What about Paul George with the parting
shots that when he would get to La, you know,
people kept saying the Clippers were the B team, that
he felt like he was on the B team, Like.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Paul George is a loser. That's my first thought.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Number two, he said he talked out both sides of
his mouth, Jones, because he had said he wanted to
stay with the Clippers if they had offered him what
he was It was all about the money. It's always
about the money. And if I'm not mistaken, did he
not have the chance to sign with the Lakers and
go to the Lakers and he chose to go back
to Oklahoma City and they gave him like his own
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day in Oklahoma City and then he left anyway, So
if he really wanted to play with the Lakers, he
could have played with the Lakers. And it's a very
weak argument by Paul George. And by the way, Paul George,
who have one big game and then vanished for the
next two or three games. That's been his mo o
his entire career. It's not going to change in Philadelphia.
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They'll eat him alive there in Philly in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
I also like the idea that the guy who grew
up where do he grow like Barstow or someplace like that,
Like he supposedly knows what the deal is in LA
and is surprised that the Lakers get more coverage and
are more talked about.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Like what do you mean, Like, if you grew up here,
you know how this works well?
Speaker 3 (47:16):
And things have changed. That argument that stick that the
Lakers I call them historians Jonas. They like to say,
they're like, oh, you know, the Lakers, they run LA
and all that stuff. The Clippers have been the better
team for the last almost twenty years now, yes, and
it's not even really close, Like if you go side
by side between the Clippers and the Lakers and their
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success in the regular season and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
And the twenty twenty Lakers championship was a joke. It
was in Orlando, at the resort in Orlando. So really,
since Kobe Bryant stopped playing for the Lakers, the Clippers
have clearly been the better team. And you know, we're
starting to get far enough out Jones where there's younger
people that grew up.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Knowing only that world. They didn't know.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Like when I grew up, the Clippers were an embarrassment.
But for some reason, I guess I was attracted to that,
like a moth to a flame and and all that.
So things have changed, and now.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
I was looking this up because you told me. I
remember a couple of years ago that doctor Fauci also
got a ring from the Bubble Championship.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yes, yes, is that correct?
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Ring? You got no parade though they had a socially distance,
They had socially distance and all that.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
I was like that the hardest things about the NBA
playoffs or what let's see, playing on the road, a travel,
all that posing fans.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Uh, none of that. None of that happened in twenty
It was so much easier. And yet I get I
have these arguments with these I call them idiots. They're like, oh, no,
it was it was hard. It was difficult.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
No, it was not.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
It wasn't that was it.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Jimmy Butler started his own coffee shops, Big Head Coffee
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yeah, how great is that? By the way, if he's
if he's doing big Head coffee, why isn't he brought on?
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Bruce Bochie is a sponsor, like to be a part
of the biggest, biggest head in baseball history. He's got
like an eight plus. He's wearing like, yes, like those
angels hats out in front of the stadium, like fun.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Name drop for you Jones.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Back in the day when Bruce Bochie was managing the
Padres and I was a young cat as a radioscribe,
a rated reporter, we we would go out to the
there's a place called the National Sports Grill. Doesn't exist anymore,
right so, I think a long gone, but.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
We would go out there and uh, one time one
night played pool with Bruce Bochie before he became Bruce Bochie.
By the way, I heard a good dude, awesome guy,
drinking beers, talking ball was great, and then he would
Now I didn't at that time he was.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
I thought, who's Bruce Bochi. Now he's a Hall of
Fame manager.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
But at the time I was like, Yeah, just a
regular dude, just having some pops, having have some pops,
playing some pool, billiards, good times, some appetizers, a.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Couple of cocktails of Bruce Bochie. That's the that's the life,
Ben Mallet. It was good, but he wasn't Bruce Bochie.
He was just you know, Bruce. He wasn't what he
is now back then, he was just regular dude. So yeah,
pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
So here on AM five seven of the LA Sports,
we like to be relatable. We want to have a
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up a sports fan in this town, we've got something
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And away we go on a Monday, Rogan and Rodney
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
You can always listen to the show as well on.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
The iHeartRadio app and it is Jonas Knocks and the
great Ben Malor in for the guys here on this
Monday as we take you all the way up until
three o'clock. It's a Mallard Monday here on the show.
And Ben Mallor, can you believe it? We are doing
live radio and there are no street lights on? Can
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you believe it? It's shocking, Jonas. I'm sure the police will
be here before we know, be arrested, will be incarcerated.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's not right here. People complaining what are you doing here? Now?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm in the Rodney chair right, So you're in the
Fred chatsa. Is that a better chair than the Rodney chair.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
If we flip a coin on this, I don't know
how that works.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well, you know we were talking about this last week
that the big difference between Fred and Rodney is what
they do on their vacations. So like Rodney goes on
the yacht with Magic Johnson, they're having cavear. They've got
everything lined. I mean it is like legitimate celebrity, superstar, athlete,
TV star, you name it. That's the life Fred. Meanwhile,
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he's in the midst of a baseball tour on the
East Coast, so he's going to see, he's going to
see he's in Baltimore where I'm in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You know, I'm checking out the time your stadium, That's
what I'm doing. Yeah, man, I really got to see
that count Ripkin statue. I just want to see how
accurate it is. You got to get a.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Photo right there and survive my trip to Baltimore. That's
what I have to do. Yes, so it will be
Bet and I here and yes, we are doing it.
We are doing Normally you can hear the Ben Malor
Show eleven PM to three am and a M five
seventy LA Sports Monday through Friday, Sunday through Thursday, depending
on who you are and what time you're waking up
and how banged up you got over the weekend. And
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then you can hear myself along with God, what's that
Nickel and Dime sometime former like football quarterback in then
like a big star defensive player that used to play
for you.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But the point is that shows on from three to six, myself,
LeVar Arrington and Brady Quinn. That's those guys, two pros
and a cup of Joe now.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
And the record. Let the record show it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
We do pass in the night, literally ships passing the
night shonas I hand the baton off to you and
three in the morning and I just hell out there
and so to survive. So people understand that in the
passing of the torch or the baton, whatever you will,
in the middle of the night. Ben Mahler has been saying,
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four weeks because what we like to talk about in
those moments is nothing about like meltdowns by fellow radio
industry people on social media. That's definitely not what we
would want to discuss or anything like that. While we
are passing the baton. Instead, Ben Maller has been saying,
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four weeks. I'm telling you, if the Dodgers got a
shot here, it involves Tommy Edmund and Michael Kopick. Yeah
like that.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That has been.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
That has been what you have been calling for, and
your wish has been granted, Ben Mallor.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. Jonas.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'm a little excited I'm a little a little tingley.
I mean, this is you talk about a big time trade.
I mean, what is Fred Claire back running the Dodgers.
Like one of my favorite stories, Jonas, when I was
around the Dodgers a lot back in the day and
I was beloved out there was the trade deadline.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The Dodgers made a deal right before the.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Deadline, and I think it was like they got like
Otis Nixon or something.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And that was the whole name.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
But uh, the way Fred talked about you know, the
gem at the time, talked about him, you would have
thought this was like Willie Mays. Uh, And it was
just I mean, listen, Tommy, that we got Tommy Edmund,
Oh my god, come on, buy your tickets right now.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Tommy Edmand's coming to don it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
He's playing as much as you have, Jonas. And now
so the what what he goes there?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
In return?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Miguel Vargus, who has been a very popular minor leaguer
for the Dodgers in their system. David Vassil have more
on that. They sent over a couple of other prospects
as well too, But the Tommy Edmond side of it,
tell me, if this sounds familiar or sounds like something.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That the Dodgers have dealt with this year.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
He's injured, Yeah, like he has not, he has not late. Yeah,
he's been a spectator. He buy some popcorn and apparently
while working to come back from his injury. You know,
it's been a little bit slowed as of late because
an ankle issue popped up or something like that. So
that is that is where we're at with that. And
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then Kopik, you know, he's been with the White Sox
for several years. He was part of the Chris Sale
trade back and I believe the nineteen seventies when that
one got done. He's got a you know, he's bullpen help.
He's got a four to seven four ERA throughout the
course of the season. They feel like this is going
to help bolster that bullpen who's been a little bit
shaky at times obviously. But that being said, you like
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to call it like you see it when it comes
to the Dodgers. Takeaway from the deal, is this the
only one we're gonna see Ben Mallor for.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Your owne Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
No, everyone took less money Jonas so they could load
up the team at the deadline. They've got one more
day to go tomorrow. Oh, I guess tomorrow in three hours.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
They got twenty seven hours till the trade deadline on Tuesday,
so they've got time to make a trade, a big trade,
a meaningful trade, like Tommy Edmond come on. And then
Michael Kopek. That guy, you know what he is, Jonas,
He's a monet. He looks better from a distance. He's
big guy, big pitcher, power arm.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
All the scouts get all excited about him, and he
hasn't performed.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
He has not pitched well as a big league pitch.
Certainly the last couple of years he's been terrible. Let
me guess I'm gonna say that. Vessey when he.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Comes on, here's saying, well, he's pitched well the last
ten games or something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You know, it's one of those on a morbid White
Sox team. Have you seen the Whites?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I know you like Chicago little bit Jones, but oh
pub a White Sox guy, like god.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Theyrible, They are brutal.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Listen, there's nothing better than when the White Sox are
bad and just giving a shout out and making a
phone called to Mike North and just put the phone
down on speaker phone and let him talk for fifteen
minutes straight on the White Sox and how and how
bad they are. So you know, uh, Copek comes over
in this deal. You've got Tommy Edmund. I wonder this,
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and tell me if this is a crazy thought, because
I wondered about this as well too, because Dave Roberts
was talking about potential moves after this series against the Astros,
and you know there's a lot going on with that.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I mean, you know, not ideal to lose two or
three to the Astros and five run leads, five run
lead Jonas and and it was Bregman two who you
know who did the dance.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So it doesn't count because he's a cheater, So it
doesn't count, all right, So we wipe that one away. Yeah,
see that's a win or a tie.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
So the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So so they split the series a three game series
with the Astros. We'll call it that one and a
half wins each. We'll call it that. And we're gonna
look at it. Look at that the positive way, I think,
and and this has been my takeaway on the team
over the past couple of weeks. I think they're looking around,
going you know, maybe we should just wait and see
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if everybody gets healthy. You know, like there's there's a
lot of talent that's on the injured list that's been
on the I L. By the way, Ben, you cannot
say the d L anymore. I just want you to
know that I'm old school, Jonas, I'm from the old country.
Just want to be clear here. We don't want to
offend anybody, all right, there's been a lot of that
going on here. If anybody saw that, Ceronia and Jonas.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
The world's a much calmer place since Major League Baseball
got rid of the disabled list. I think we're all
nicer to each other and there's less people making fun
of each time.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's wonderful. That'll fix it, you know, they.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Have they gotten rid of handicapped parking, Jonas, is that
still a thing they still have that?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I'm still a thing?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But the I L has been riddled with Dodgers over
the past several months here since the season started. The
only one and maybe vast sale have more on this
as well too. That's a little weird, as Max Muncy like,
it seemed like it was a minor injury two months later,
still the same thing. Dave Roberts doesn't seem to have
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any answers. But that being said, I wonder if their
approach is just listen, we're gonna get healthy, like that's
gonna be our best bet. Why give away some of
the best in our farm system to add some rental players,
and we feel like these guys are right around the
corner from getting better, getting back with the big league club,
and then we make a run for this thing with
the roster that we initially thought we were going to
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have coming into the season.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
All right, So first of all, watching the team recently,
does seem like they are I don't know if they've plateaued.
They played well against the Red Sox, Fine, they came
back in those games not that long ago, But it
does seem like they're just kind of playing in neutral
spinning their wheels a little bit right now. But I
don't want to hear the Dodgers waiting for guys to
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come back off the injured list, because that's what the
Dodgers used to do. This is the golden era of
Dodger baseball. This is not like that period of time,
and now you make it trade and the minor league
system I have long been an advocate of trading minor
league players, and the Dodgers very rarely have gotten burned
trading away minor league players. In this run they've been
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on where they've traded a lot of their their mining players.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And every year it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
In spring training or in the offseason they come out
with a new list of top prospects.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
So even if you trade, it's a renewable resource.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It's like being a farmer and being sad that you
have to get rid of your crop. Well you can
plan a new crop, and you can make more, and
it can come back. And so No, the whole point
of having a minor league system is to enhance the
big league team, and the Dodgers get that right.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And but this trade that they made.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I mean, this is a nice starter trade if you
want to be positive and and and put sugar all over,
he said, with Tommy Edmund's a glue guy and all that.
I'm not going there. But that is not never can
As Ernest Hemingway said, Jones never confused movement with action,
so that in itself was did not.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Get me all excited. But there's a bigger trade on
the horizon here.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I would I would assume that there is, because like
if you were to say, right now, if somebody pulled
you aside and said, hey, if you could just sit
like carve out and just point to the biggest issue
with the Dodgers of this season, it's been what health Like,
health's been the biggest issue, which is odd because they
have all the top trainers and all the top many
people and they all still get hurt anything. And what
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might be even more odd is the fact that if
health's a big issue, why did you just trade for
a guy who hasn't played all year because he's not healthy, Like,
you're not supposed to call there Jonas will swung with you.
I'm just I'm just I'm just wondering, Like, so, what
is the next move? Randy rose Arena was supposed to
be a trade target. He was gone last week. It
feels like moves of like Dave Roberts even said this
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put which I have not heard Dave Roberts be this
blunt about things where he's basically I don't know if
you don't if you want to say calling out the
front office, I don't think he was doing that, but
he basically just said, yeah, you know there are some
moves to be made, but a couple of the bigger
ones have already gone by, and so maybe we're looking
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at some smaller moves coming around the corner. And I
wonder if he thought that there would be more help
on the way, and if there's just sort of this,
you know, I like tug a war between Hey, listen,
you've got to produce with what you've got. Those guys
are gonna get better, But don't expect a big time,
blockbuster move. We'll add a couple of small pieces, but
we feel like what we have that's coming back is
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going to be the move. And Dave Roberts is maybe
looking around going no, I think there are bigger issues.
So I just wonder how concerning it. I said it
last week. I'm not concerned at all. I think they're
gonna win the World Series. There's something about this team.
I get the vibe and the feeling. I felt that
I feel better about this team than some of the
other ones that have been to the postseason recently that
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have faltered. Why would that be, Joes, I, Well, to me,
this is more of the same. We don't know what
Otani's gonna do. I hope they win the World Series
every year, you know, Jones, I hope they win every year,
all right, But it's the same situation. Are they gonna
be able to hit? Are they gonna be out there
and and and totally limp like they've been the last
couple of postseasons offensively and just have no spark. And
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you know, because all these wins in the regular seasons, great,
and they're gonna win the National League West again going away.
But yet ultimately, all that matters is what you do
in the moment in the postseason. And the last couple
of years in baseball, we have seen dog food regular
season teams like the Diamondbacks and the Phillies a couple
of years ago, the Atlanta Braves of the year they
won the World Series, they were not a great regular
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season and the Nationals a few years back, they weren't
a good regular season team and they all won the
World Series.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So it's like it's it's it's.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
A weird thing because you want to win every regular
season game, and yet all that matters is do you
hit or you're gonna be bowling in the offseason. Here's
why I'm a law of averages guy. When it comes
to gambling and all. I'll use roulette as the example. Now,
I was going to say to you, you know, Ben,
when you're walking through a casino in Vegas, except you
and I do the overnight. So Ben, when you're walking
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through a casino at State Line, like say you're a
Whiskey Pete okay, and you're at Whiskey Petees and bills
great roller coaster right across the way. Yeah, and you
see the although it took a little while to get
there this weekend according to some of the traffic reports, apparently.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Old friend JT the breck.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Apparently it's an issue is getting you back to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
A lithium battery truck just went up in flames. What
are the odds?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I hate when that happens. You know, we're weird, weird
situation there. But nonetheless, you get to Whiskey Pets. You're there,
you see the Roulette board and it says, hey, it's
hit black like eleven times in a row. I'm the
guy that I don't care that this doesn't actually apply
to Roulette. I look at it from a law of
average standpoint, Well, what are the chances it's going to
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hit black at well, the same as it's going to
hit red as a matter of fact, Like that's how
roulette work, Like, you know, Green's a little bit lower
than that obviously, But yeah, I would go Red every
single time. I think this is going to be the
year that while everybody's expecting the doom and gloom, while
everybody's expecting the falter and everybody's expecting the Bats to
go quiet again, I'm expecting the Dodgers are going to respond.
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I think go Tani's gonna have a great postseason. I
think Mookie Betts is going to improve because there's no
other way to go but up based on last year.
And I think this team is still a World Series
team despite some of the people that are a little
bit stressed out because the trade deadline's right around the
corner and so far they've added a guy who hasn't
played it all this year because of injury, and Michael Kopik,
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who was part of a Chris Sale trade for the
White Sox years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, I like your optimism. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Benny Bright said on this I wish I was, because
I got to see I gotta see this how this
plays out in the playoffs. The last couple of years
have sullied me on this, and they do say in
the gambling world Jonas that the law of averages is
known as wishful thinking.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yes, they do make a lot of They do make
a lot of money. Right, how many you're you like
the Cubs? How many years did people bet on the
Cubs to win the world There were people went to
Vegas every year to bet on the Cubs. Eventually they
did win, but you know, for years they didn't win.
The Red Sox were the same thing. Thest have this
thing called the Curse of the Bambino.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Right, they didn't win any people kept betting on them
and they never they ever want anything.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Which which, by the way, why do you get the Moniker?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Which I think is disrespect and as our old friend
Tony Bruno would say, it's an outrag.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's an outrage.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Why did you get the Moniker? The great the Curse
of the Benbino.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Oh, the Curse of Banino?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yes, because I would make these bold decrees on my
show that something was going to happen, and I'd pick
NFL games and inevitably someone would break their ankle or
they would you know, a key player would get hurt
or I would you know, unexpected thing would happen, I
would lose. It was and this is, this has happened
for my entire career handicapping, which of course is why
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I did a TV show last year handicapping the NFL.
Because everything I say the because it happens. I cannot
win Jonas, I cannot.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Win at all. But I want again.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I want to see the Dodgers do something big here.
The whole point of Otani taking less money there were
two things. A, he's getting one hundred million dollars a
year for endorsements, and B he wanted the team to
improve the roster. And also see he wants better tax
down the line tax situation.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And also you gotta be you gotta make a big
sexy move.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I would have loved Randy Roserena. That's the guy that
I wanted. I know he's had a terrible year for
Tampa Bay. He went to Seattle. That guy had some
Erasmataz in the playoffs with Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That's the guy I wanted.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
You can't get him now, so now you've got to
pivot and get somebody else. And a lot of these names,
I don't know if you're like, me, Jo's I like baseball.
But a lot of these names that.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I'm seeing that are being floated in the speculation from
the insiders, they all kind of numb to them, like
they just kind of seem like a lot of the same.
There's no there's no blockbuster move this year.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, Like there's no real exciting name that you're like,
Oh my god, that that's that that's one that that
people have got to discuss like that, that's one that
we've got to break down and cover. And what his
legacy was with his former team, It's like no, like
there's going to be small pieces, small additions that are made,
and that's just sort of what what how this whole
thing is going to go? And you know, when it
comes to the Randy Rose Arena, I think the bigger
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question I have is why the hell did he think
it was normal behavior to after being traded bringing his
family to go sit in the stands and watch a
few innings of the Rays following the trade. I don't
know if you saw that over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I didn't. Well, maybe they're a big fans the team
and they're sad they have to go.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So even the even the announcers when they spotted him
in the crowd. He's sitting in the outfield with his
family watching the raid. This is after he gets traded.
Even the announcers are right, Jonas, he loves ball. Jonas,
the guy loves ball. Like I mean, a lot of
these guys hate baseball. He's having to be good at it.
This guy loves ball. Okay, he's out there. He's a
pillar of the community. He's sad.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I mean, it's very difficult when you can't go to
a Rays game with your you know, four hundred of
your favorite friends there that go to Rays games. And
did he give a keynote address.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
On his way out?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I mean, listen, all I know is that even the
announcer said, yeah, that's weird, Like that's a little that's
a little odd. That doesn't seemingly happen happen every day.
And I don't know about you, but you know, when
a former employer tells me we don't want you anymore,
the last place I'm going to give any time or
attention to is.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That former employer. Like that's how that works.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
The only reason I take my son to Chuck E
Cheese is because they didn't fire me back in the day.
Otherwise I'd be going somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, places I
used to work when they get rid of me. Normally,
would I do two things. I have a bonfire and
I burn all the stuff that they gave me that
has their logo on it. That's number one. And then
number two. My next move here, and this is probably
the most important thing, is I go on Amazon, I
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buy a voodoo kit and I put a curse on them.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So that's what voodoo boogaaloo. That's my next thing.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I mean, listen, and that's normal, Like all of that
is appropriate here. If somebody's going to burn you, it's
okay to light the flame back. That's my mentality. Yeah.
So we didn't start the fire, Jonas, but you know
they started it and we got to take.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Care of it, damn right. Yeah, my goodness.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
So there's one man who can break it all down.
The trade the Dodgers did pull off and the one
that might be right around the corner, and that man
is David Vassa and he joins you next interesting Rogan
and Rodney a five seventy l a sports. He's been
mallor I'm Jonas knocks in for the guys here on
a Monday morning works Monday morning, Jesus, Monday afternoon. It
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is morning somewhere, but not not here. It's in Hawaii,
it's morning. That's right in Alaska, it's in the morning.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Still I think in Guam. I don't know Vic the
Brick from Guam, don't Is he really fixed from Guam? Well,
he worked there. That's the famous Victor Brick story. He
worked with after college.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
By the way, have you been monitoring Victor Bricks sumo
coverage via social media?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I have missed out on this. It is Oh, it's
so good. Fans feel you.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
And he's a yokozuna is oh yeah, he's got it
on lock by the way, coming up and we'll call
it about a little over twenty minutes from now, from
on AM five to seventy l A Sports, we're going
to tell you how there's a giant event going on.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And it just it's really confusing in the world of sports.
So that'll be yours here again about a little over
twenty minutes from now.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
There's a lot of confusing.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
There's a lot of confusion, Like people turn on the
radio they want to hear Fred and Rodney and they
here like.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
You and me.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I know that's confusing for people. Well, you know it's
no confusing that.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
If you need answers about what the hell is the
plan for the Dodgers around the trade deadline, there's only
one place you go, and it's David David Vasse, who
is joining us here on AM five to seventy LA Sports. Dave.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
What's happening Happy Monday too?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
How's the off day treating you?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I was going great until I heard Ben's voice.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Oh no, look at this guy, this guy Massa takes
potshots at me, pot shots at me, his little Dodger
talk show. After this, yeah, yeah, yeah, I say, why
do you go massage a Dodger player again?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Come on along with you?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Okay, I'll there you God much jealousy and envy.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Hey, so, Dave right away?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Initial thoughts on the move that was made Tommy Edmund,
Michael Kopek, who come over from the White Sox and
from the Cardinals. They are now members of the Dodgers
trade deadline right around the corner. What are your thoughts
on the deal?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Well, I've talked to a few different scouts around the
league regarding this trade Number one Tommy Edmund. The plan
for the Dodgers acquiring him is for him to play
center field, and also if they need him to fill
in on certain days at shortstop or second base, he
can do that as well. But my understanding is the
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primary position that Tommy Edmund is going to play for
the Dodgers is center field, where defense was starting to
get a little shaky out there with Andy Pajs. And
what does this mean for Andy Pajes. It means that
Andy PAHs slides over to the position where he's more
comfortable at, and that's right field. He and Jason Hayward
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will now platoon in right field with Tommy Edmund playing
center field every day. As far as Michael Kopek goes
from my understanding, is coming to the Dodgers and getting
out of Chicago like so many guys, it's going to
be a huge boost for him. He's got big stuff.
He's a fastball upwards of ninety seven to one hundred
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miles an hour, he's got a slider, and Dodger pitching
coach Connor McGinnis is regarded as the best as far
as refining what other pitching coaches or pitchers are missing,
so this is a by low but a high ceiling
trade for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So essentially it's a starter.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It's an appetizer vestment, and there's a bigger trade coming right.
Who's the big trade? Give me the name right now, Vessa.
The trade deadlines to the mom at three pm.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Who they get?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And they getting the pitcher and a relief pitcher and outfielder.
What direction do they go? What's the big name they're
gonna get. This is not a big name, tit. This
is not a sexy trade, So what's the big trade
they're gonna make?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
All right? I feel like they made all their sexy
moves during the offseason. How many MVPs do you want
on the team, Ben Mallard.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I would like to.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I would like two more till they win the World Series,
because they clearly don't have enough until they win another
World Series.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Well, I feel like what they're missing is a guy
like Tommy Edmund who's a steady player who does the
little things that the Dodgers have been unable to do
in the postseason. I think a big problem with the
Dodgers so far this year has been their role players
not understanding their role players, and they're not Freddie Freeman,
they're not Mookie Betts. And Tommy Edmond understands who he
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is as a player and he's definitely a steady ball player. Look,
the Dodgers have tried to entice the Tigers to engage
in trade talks for Tarts School, but they are not
going to trade him. The Tigers are just not trading
Derek Schouble. Between now and three o'clock tomorrow, things can
obviously change, but they have been telling teams, not just
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the Dodgers, they are not trading him. Garrett Crochet with
his demands of wanting an extension that raised red flags
around the industry that maybe he's not as sound health
wise as he and the White Sox want you to believe,
because that seems like, all right, give us our money now,
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and if he breaks down again, that's on you and
we'll go to the bank. So with this trade with
the White Sox, I don't see Garrett Crochet trade happening.
There's one starter that's still out there that would be
an impact starter, and that's Harvard Westlake's own Jack Flaherty,
who was scratched from his start tonight by the Tigers
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in order to keep him healthy and nothing go whacky
in a start today, so he could be traded between
now and tomorrow at three o'clock Pacific, Dave, how.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Much of the Dodgers may be like, if there's not
another blockbuster move or any move whatever from the Dodgers
to be made here, how much of that is there
thinking that, look, we just need to get healthy, Like
we've got guys that are coming back, and let's focus
on those guys coming back and the lineup we thought
we were going to have going into the season. As
you pointed out, what they did in the offseason is
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the team they thought they were going to chase a
World Series with. How much of this is them expecting
healthy results as opposed to what they've gotten thus far.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Well, that's going to be part of this. But even
if these guys were healthy, it feels like the Dodgers
were still going to add another arm in the bullpen.
They were going to shore up the outfield because that's
been somewhat unsettled since the beginning of the year, since
James Outman took a couple of steps backwards. So they
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were always going to make a trade like this to
shore it up. What they weren't expecting having to do
was to find a starting pitcher that was, you know,
a number two or a number three in a playoffs series.
They thought they had that covered with Glass now and Yamamoto.
But the Dodgers are confident right now that Yamamoto will
be able to come back. He's going a bullpen session
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tomorrow in Los Angeles. Excuse me, I got my days
mixed up Friday in Los Angeles. He's been long tossing
from center field to left field, so his shoulder seems
pretty good. But look, another obstacle here for the Dodgers
to make what Ben Maller wants as a blockbuster trade
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is the fact that there are so many teams, so
many average teams that are just three and a half
games out of a wildcard spot, like the San Francisco Giants.
So that has complicated buyers and sellers and the lack
of this market, and many executives I've talked to believe
that if you're going to add this extra wildcard teams
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to the postseason, you've got to move the trade deadline
back to August fifteenth, so there could be more of
a definitive line of who was a buyer and a
seller at that point.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Well, see, that's the problem, David, is that there's too
many full contenders in baseball. And unlike in football, if
you're a full contender, you can get to the World
Series like the Diamondbacks last year. You don't have to
have a sexy record like the Dodgers, which is a
it's a blessing and a curse in baseball, and it's
problem back.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I wanted to run by the.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Pitching thing because for the last I don't know how
many years, the Dodgers have been very precise with young pitchers.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
You've talked about it on your little Dodger talk show
of essay that they have.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
They limit the innings, they limit pitches, right, And every
time I look up, someone's having Tommy John surgery. So
is it time to reevaluate what the Dodgers are doing?
Because this is a pet peeve of mine. These blue
chip pitchers come up and one after another goes down
to some elbow issue or shoulder issue.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And yet it makes no sense to me. I'm not
that smart if I say, you're smarter than me.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
So they keep paying the pitchers, and yet they keep
getting hurt so should they try something else.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm just asking for a friend.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I'm with you, Ben, I'm not sure if you ever
had a chance to talk to Sandy Kofax when you
did Dodger talk for four months, but.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Out there it was six months. It was six months.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Okay, you've moved on to bigger and better things in
the middle of the night. As far as Sandy Kofax,
Sandy Kofax always said, you don't train for a marathon
by running sprints, and he likened it to pitching. If
you're going to be a starting pitcher, wouldn't it make
sense to throw more long toss more. If you're going
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to go one hundred pitches and you're going to go six, seven,
hopefully nine innings, to throw more. I believe that the industry,
from what I understand, is going to reevaluate how they
trained pitchers, and it goes down to the youth levels.
I mean, this is a discussion that can go on
for hours, but it goes down to the high school
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level and the way those kids are being trained. So
it's not just starting at the major league level the
Dodgers or any other team in the minor leagues. It
goes all the way to high school. And I think
everybody needs to start reevaluating that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Dave, what the hell's going on with Max Mounsey, Like,
what is that? Dave Roberts even seems like he's a
little bit perplexed as to what his status is.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
What can you tell us?
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Well, Dave Roberts said yesterday they have taken scans on
Monsey's oblique and it shows no injury anymore. So he
stopped short of saying it's a pain tolerance issue. But
I don't have to stop short. It's a pain tolerance issue.
The Dodgers need Max Mounsey to go out there and
start playing again and not try to make it that
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he's one hundred percent perfect. Nobody's perfect at this time
of the season as far as their health or the
way they feel. The Dodgers need him to start, you know,
just pushing through this and trusting that he is sound
mind and body. And Dave Roberts sounded very frustrated yesterday.
You're right, Jonas, and uh, they need monthly back because
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they are missing a big piece at third base. If
you look at the Dodgers' third basement since Monsey went
on the il and just for the entire year. They
are absolute franchise franchise lows in the last fifty years
as far as banging average on base, all of that stuff,
it's been abysmal there.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
All right, I say, this is my last my last
chance here. So why are you hanging out with all
of my enemies?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
What did you when you you?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I remember you when you were you started out as say,
we all started out together, and now you're hanging out
with Blake Snell. Bro I'm risking my life and William Shatner.
You had Shatner on Dodger Talking the Other's wrong with you?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
What you wanted to meet me?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Are you gonna give you out to meet? Are you
gonna interview?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Are you gonna.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Give you all to a next Is he gonna be
on Dodger Talker? Are you gonna get pregnant on there?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Not?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
There that's wrong with you that you've gone to the
dark side.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
You're the only person that had the guts to go
I to Iowa Carlos Korea and ask him and keep
him accountable. Last year at Dodger Stadium. William Shatner is
an enemy of yours. I mean, maybe you need to
look in the mirror ben. Is it everybody else or
is it you.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
William shat Listen that guy.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
You know, one of my listeners had to be five
hundred dollars to get me unblocked on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It was called Twitter then wanted he blocked. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I could, I wouldn't pay. I couldn't afford that I
do Overnight. I'm not rich, Like, do you doing Dodger programming?
Vaste over hey.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
By the way, by the way, Shatner blocked me too,
like a stray from.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
You were collateral damage. Yeah, so shat Yeah, the backstory
in that for those you know, it's during the day Jonas,
there's new people. For sure, I'm friends and actually knows
this guy. I'm gonna drop it in Fred Dryer TV's Hunter, right,
great man, Fred Dryer. And so he started sending me
messages on on X and I had him on the
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Overnight show a couple of times, and Fred starts tagging
me and Shatner. So then Shatner starts responding to me.
So then I started responding to Shatner on social media.
And then he started getting annoyed that he thought, you know,
I was pretending like we were friends. And then he
got annoyed, and then things blew up. It escalated, things
got out of control. And there was one night William
Shatton was on a flight from la to Germany, and
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he was on a plane all night and he kept
trying to block everyone that was associated with my show,
and he started accidentally following William Shatner Hollywood Icon was
like following the guy that cleaned the toilets at the
the Arco station.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It was a while. What a night, an amazing night.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Now Dave's you know, Reven Elbows and now he's hanging
out with him and Blake Snell and all these mortal enemies.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Oh yeah, Blake Snell, two time Cy Young Award winner,
that was very available this offseason.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
He's not a Dodger. I don't want him on the Dodgers.
The guy's a five inning pitcher. I'm I don't need
that guy.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Oh really, did you see him strike out fifteen and
six innings?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Who is that against me? Who is that against a
minor league team? A minor league glorified team.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Did you see did you see a seven perfect innings?
Before the All Star breakdown?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Late got a room to get a room for him.
I mean, my god, Blake's bro. I'm I'm not playing
unless I get mine bro.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
The Dodgers. Dodgers need a starting pitcher. Blake Snell is
very available.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
No, he's a giant, He's I don't nothing to do
with him. Nothing to do with that.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
I mean, are you a fan or are you an
objective person? Here?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I'm an ejective. I know I'm objective. I realized that
I don't want the guy on my team. That's it.
I don't want the guy. That's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
He's been to Dodger Stadium more than Ben Meller has
this year.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm not well. I'm not invited since Pani came in there.
They don't want me out there.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
The Dodgery PR staff don't want me out there. What
do you want to do with your best I'd go
out there. I'd be out there all the time in
a one game. They don't want me out there. Thirty
years I was out there.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
The Dodger PR people don't want me out there. I
don't know that just because I've gone against Vessa.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
That might be why. Hey, Dave, what's on tap for
the day off?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Are you gonna go have a you know, get on
the liver Lube like around three four o'clock and just
fade away into Bolivion like the old Mike Tyson QUI
I wish, I.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Wish Jonas this day off in San Diego has fallen
on a bad day. I got to keep my phone
charge for all these calls and text that are coming
in as they get closer to three o'clock tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Gotcha, now your phone will works? Say if you're walking
like you know, in the beach there, Pacific Beach, you
could be walking there. Possibly go to the museums over
there and La Joya. You can check that out as well.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
All well, very very cultured expertise from Ben Maller right.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
There, I dominated the mighty six to ninety back in
the day.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Dominated Maybe I'll go check in with Mado.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
That's fun, your perfect time for your fall time. Thank god,
damn any Machado. Could that have not happened sooner? Why
does waited this long for his phone to die? Dave,
enjoy it. Dodgers are in San Diego to take on
the Pods. Next couple of games. Off today, but back
I'm back on tomorrow and Wednesday. Appreciate the time, Enjoy
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the rest of the day and uh, you know, best
of luck out there.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Okay, thanks a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
There is Dodger Stadium, South jonas you know, yes, it
is Southern version of Dodger Stadium. The Great David Vass
with us here on AM five seventy l A Sports.
By the way, if you are a big fan of
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Speaking of sports, we got a problem, very very confusing situation.
It involves a lot of people on this planet. Will
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explain why that is next here on A five seventy
Oh Man.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I hear this song every day.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Because Ben plays it in his Rolls Royce as he
leaves the parking lot at Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah. I've been at about two fifty five AM, so
little Hot Wheels Rolls Royce I got on the internet.
It's pretty cool, right, that's that right there? Roll that out,
I mean wonderful And for those of you wondering, damn,
this is bumping.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Why it's been played so much because Today's Afternoon Delight
is oh sh by Ice Spice. This song features Travis
Scott and is one of ten tracks that appears on
the rappers debut solo album entitled Y two K, which
debuted over the weekend. The song was accompanied by a
music video, which received over a million streams within the
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first few hours of being posted. Again, Today's Afternoon Delight
is oh sh by Ice Spice featuring Travis Scott, so
Ben mallor.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
The Olympics.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Oh, by the way, coming up top of next hour,
We've got a discussion we need to have here on
the air because I feel like it involves everybody who
has grown up a sports fan in this town. One
of the most relatable topics we will do coming up
top of next hour, A.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Little over top, man, you got me relatable? Come on now.
So the Olympics have a problem, all right now.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
It's not the fact that they had some guy with
his belt berries hanging out during the opening ceremony.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Jones like you slowed it down.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I know you're a tellustrator out you were looking at it.
I love how people are like, no, that's not what
it was. It was just an illusion. Okay, all right,
yeah that wasn't what it was. That was that was
his thigh, because everybody's got a skin tag on their
thigh like that. Okay, yeah, you got it, like that
was your guy, Justin Cooper, your producer. I was trying
to make that.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, it's called it's called gas lighting. You might want
to look it up, called gas lighting.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
It's that's the But here's here's my issue with the Olympics.
I don't know when these events are live and which
ones are taped. And for guys like you and I
who are doing you know, radio in the middle of
the night, and we're looking for live sporting events and
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it's not the Australian Open or you know, the the
the Open Championship in golf. We're looking for live sporting
events and I don't know which of these events is live.
I don't know what's happening. I don't know when they're
taking about. So there's two thought. Number No one is
I agree with you. I only want to watch live sports.
I don't watch sports on tape. I'm not a guy
that records. Some people can record NFL games.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
I have to watch it live otherwise I don't want
to watch it. And so that's the first thing. The
second thing is if you don't know the outcome, and
it's very hard to find the results of like table
tennis or ping pong whatever at the Olympics, so kind
of is live, right, you don't know what when it
was played, or you don't know who won or anything
like that. And like last night I was I was
(39:29):
doing the Overnight Show and I saw our friend, old
friend Amy van dykn was doing the NBC Swimming's awesome
by that and I would love Amy, and so I
was like, oh, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I'll check that out. But I, like you, I didn't
know if it was live or not. I was trying.
I went on my phone. I was fuxing around with
my phone trying to like, what time is it in Paris?
Is this actually live?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I was like, well, probably not because of the time
difference it's in the morning, but maybe it is, because
maybe they're doing it in the morning. It is confused, yeah,
very confusing, And look, maybe I'm outing myself a little
bit here. But you know, if you're somebody who who
you know, maybe likes to go to the window, as
they say, and gamble a little bit, sure, you need
these events to be live, like, you need to know
what's happening and whether or not these events are live.
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I do like though, how even at the Olympics over
in Paris, the NBA still figured out a way to
infuse it with some drama. You know, some of this
NBA drama that is so much fun that people cover
because the latest is, well, why didn't Jason Tatum play?
And what's really going on there? And you've got Jalen
Brown and is it Nike? Is it like that whole
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discussion and that whole fiasco. We like, they can't even
just go over and beat Serbia without there being some
takeaway that is a negative look on the NBA stirring
up more drama. Well, it really is amazing, Jones.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
It's wonderful that Lebron James came out and said this
team is so good on any given night, anyone can dominate, right,
And then at the same time, you're right, Jason Tatum
gets benched, which is very upsetting, distressing, to the Celtic
people that that's heartbreaking. It does not even you know,
he doesn't play in the first game in the Olympics,
so you've got that. And now call me a conspiracy
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theory guy. But how much is Nike spending on the
team USA Olympic squad? I pretty sure it's in the millions,
if not billions, because they're gonna deal he has a
significant amount of money.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
So is it.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Outrageous to think that final edit, final cut on who's
there and who's not would come down to somebody at Nike.
I mean, is Jalen Brown's done some kind of weird
things over the years, But that doesn't seem outrageous.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
To me by it.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
If that's if that's how this is being operated, and
you know, they can try and say, oh, well, no
difficult decisions were made and this like if the idea
was we're putting the best players in basketball right now
on this team to try and chase a gold medal.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
It's not like Jalen Brown didn't want to be a
part of the team. Like he wanted to be a
part of the team.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
He just won Eastern Conference Finals, mv NBA Finals, MVP.
He's one of the better players on the planet. The
fact that he's not on the team but Derek White,
his teammate, is, is a little weird. And to further
the conspiracy theory, there are some people that have wondered
if maybe this is Steve Kerr, Eric Spolstra and who
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else knows who else is involved that is trying to
create some sort of a divide between Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum,
Derek White Jalen Brown and try and get in there
and blow everything up because they see this team could
be a problem for the next several years in the league.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Well, Jalen Brown, to my knowledge, I don't think he
has a shoe deal. He wasn't now I think Adidas,
But yes, they for some reason they got rid of him.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It didn't work out. I guess he wasn't selling shoes
and so now he's a free agent.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
The counter argument be, if you're Nike, wouldn't you want
to bring Jalen Brown in to try to work out
some kind of an agreement and bring him in. But
in terms of the Nike influence on that, it always
goes back to the term. I think it was the
CIA came up with plausible deniability. Right, Well, we didn't
technically make the decision. We recommended that Jalen Brown not
be on the team.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
We did.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
We're not the ones that did it. Team USA did it,
so we didn't. You know, he's he's wrong. It's no conspiracy.
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Well, another thing that's wrong with the Nike angle. And
I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this.
And maybe there's less of an argument now because he
went like eight for eight and made all.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Of his shots yesterday.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
But Kevin Durant, who had not practiced the entire exhibition
cycle for any of these series or anything, versus Kawhi Leonard,
who by all accounts was fully healthy, and Kawhi got
sent home and Kevin Durant is still playing last time
I checked, Kevin Durant is a Nike guy and Kawhi
Leonard is rocking new balances.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I mean, not sure has anything to do with it
or not, but very interesting.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Ben Mallard and by the way, Kevin figures can attest
to this. I give when I give credit to real
Clipper fans, I list a couple of names. Ben Mallard,
Adam Auslin, Okay, Marcellus Wiley, sure and that's pretty much it.
But no, the names that I mentioned, No Clipper, Darryl,
he's not on there. I mean, I think he's still
(44:04):
in the er if I'm not mistaken. After all, he'll be.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Seeing it downtown.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
But he's back once they move into that into it
in the Palace, the taj Mahall and Inglewood.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah, I just be there.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Like when he got that modified reverse neck breaker off
the railing by that security guard, I just figured, you know,
he's going to be away for a little while.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
I thought it was pretty good security there, you know,
keep him on the line. Very north Korean of the
security staff noticed Staples Center. Yes, it doesn't matter who
you are.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
None of the other security guards around we had any
problem with it, except for that one guy. Like he
was the only one who decided he was going to
take matters into his own head.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Is callings.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
But when you see that Kawhi Leonard, who is healthy
and gets sent home because he wears new balance, I mean,
and Kevin Durant as Kevin, you know, as as Kevin
figures pointed out, gets the nod over Kawhi Leonard. I mean,
you are a die hard through and through. Kawhi Leonard fan,
how does that land with you as a Clippers fan, Well, it.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Would have been nice to see him in the Olympics,
because I am actually watching the Olympics. But Kawhi as
a Clipper has been a lightweight. Let's call it like
it is. He's very fragile, and so they got to
find a way in the next couple of years because
Kawhi is going to be out of his athletic prime soon,
so they've got to find a way to get him
to actually stay healthy for an entire playoff run. He
(45:25):
has been here for several years now, and every year
he has gotten hurt. So as far as like the
Olympic thing, it would have been cool to watch him
in the Olympics because he would have dominated the Olympics
and would have done very well and all that would
have been wonderful to watch. But I'm more concerned about
the Summer of twenty twenty five Jones, the Summer of
Love when the Clippers. You talk about opening up a
new arena in style with James Harden on one side
(45:48):
and Kawhi Landed on the other, and the most outrageous championship.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Run in NBA.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
His people, I can't believe that team went all the
way to the NBA fund. Nobody had them in the
fun That's what I'm worried about. No, I'm not worried
about the olymp What about Paul George with the parting
shots that when he would get to La, you know,
people kept saying the Clippers were the B team, that
he felt like he was on the B team, Like.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Paul George is a loser. That's my first thought.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Number two, he said he talked out both sides of
his mouth, Jones, because he had said he wanted to
stay with the Clippers if they had offered him what
he was It was all about the money. It's always
about the money. And if I'm not mistaken, did he
not have the chance to sign with the Lakers and
go to the Lakers and he chose to go back
to Oklahoma City and they gave him like his own
(46:35):
day in Oklahoma City and then he left anyway, So
if he really wanted to play with the Lakers, he
could have played with the Lakers. And it's a very
weak argument by Paul George. And by the way, Paul George,
who have one big game and then vanished for the
next two or three games. That's been his mo o
his entire career. It's not going to change in Philadelphia.
(46:57):
They'll eat him alive there in Philly in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
I also like the idea that the guy who grew
up where do he grow like Barstow or someplace like that,
Like he supposedly knows what the deal is in LA
and is surprised that the Lakers get more coverage and
are more talked about.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Like what do you mean, Like, if you grew up here,
you know how this works well?
Speaker 3 (47:16):
And things have changed. That argument that stick that the
Lakers I call them historians Jonas. They like to say,
they're like, oh, you know, the Lakers, they run LA
and all that stuff. The Clippers have been the better
team for the last almost twenty years now, yes, and
it's not even really close, Like if you go side
by side between the Clippers and the Lakers and their
(47:41):
success in the regular season and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
And the twenty twenty Lakers championship was a joke. It
was in Orlando, at the resort in Orlando. So really,
since Kobe Bryant stopped playing for the Lakers, the Clippers
have clearly been the better team. And you know, we're
starting to get far enough out Jones where there's younger
people that grew up.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Knowing only that world. They didn't know.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Like when I grew up, the Clippers were an embarrassment.
But for some reason, I guess I was attracted to that,
like a moth to a flame and and all that.
So things have changed, and now.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
I was looking this up because you told me. I
remember a couple of years ago that doctor Fauci also
got a ring from the Bubble Championship.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yes, yes, is that correct?
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Ring? You got no parade though they had a socially distance,
They had socially distance and all that.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
I was like that the hardest things about the NBA
playoffs or what let's see, playing on the road, a travel,
all that posing fans.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Uh, none of that. None of that happened in twenty
It was so much easier. And yet I get I
have these arguments with these I call them idiots. They're like, oh, no,
it was it was hard. It was difficult.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
No, it was not.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
It wasn't that was it.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Jimmy Butler started his own coffee shops, Big Head Coffee
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yeah, how great is that? By the way, if he's
if he's doing big Head coffee, why isn't he brought on?
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Bruce Bochie is a sponsor, like to be a part
of the biggest, biggest head in baseball history. He's got
like an eight plus. He's wearing like, yes, like those
angels hats out in front of the stadium, like fun.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Name drop for you Jones.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Back in the day when Bruce Bochie was managing the
Padres and I was a young cat as a radioscribe,
a rated reporter, we we would go out to the
there's a place called the National Sports Grill. Doesn't exist anymore,
right so, I think a long gone, but.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
We would go out there and uh, one time one
night played pool with Bruce Bochie before he became Bruce Bochie.
By the way, I heard a good dude, awesome guy,
drinking beers, talking ball was great, and then he would
Now I didn't at that time he was.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
I thought, who's Bruce Bochi. Now he's a Hall of
Fame manager.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
But at the time I was like, Yeah, just a
regular dude, just having some pops, having have some pops,
playing some pool, billiards, good times, some appetizers, a.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Couple of cocktails of Bruce Bochie. That's the that's the life,
Ben Mallet. It was good, but he wasn't Bruce Bochie.
He was just you know, Bruce. He wasn't what he
is now back then, he was just regular dude. So yeah,
pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
So here on AM five seven of the LA Sports,
we like to be relatable. We want to have a
conversation that everybody can get into. And if you've grown
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