July 3, 2025 • 37 mins
Dan Woike hops on to talk maritime hijinx and DeAndre Ayton signing with the Lakers. Are carnival games actually rigged? Theres a way to increase your chances of winning. Can Mookie's offensive struggles be attributed to playing shortstop?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Big Ben Maller
in today for Rodney on a five seventy LA Sports
as we cruise into the fourth of July weekend later
this hour. Next segment, maybe this will be an inside
tip of how to win at the carnival, and Ben
brought it up. Kevin has found it and we'll look
(00:21):
forward to hearing it. The way you can guarantee you
spend your money and you win at the carnival. And
I think that will be the most important information we
will impart today.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Ben, I don't think we should overseell guaranteed win now, Kevin,
you guys sell it man.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And by the way, this is gonna the people over
at the La County Fair are not gonna like this,
for we're gonna get in trouble because everyone's gonna win
stuffed animals when they go to the fair. You're gonna
win it cash in big money.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
If we're not here for the people, what are we doing.
If we're not here to help people, why are we here?
This is what people want and we're gonna get to
it coming up. But now let's bring on a man.
I think he spent some time at a few carnivals
in his life. From the Athletic Our good friend Dan Waki, Dan,
how are you today?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Guys? Love a good carnival, Love a good Fourth of
July carnival, like the like the spaceship that goes around
the gravitron, Like the ride that plays really bad eighties
having metal music as it spins around them, circle really quickly.
Take a lot of lead af Ford stuff like that. Hey, guys, uh,
fred I heard you say the word cruise there. I
(01:23):
just gotta tell you. Do you think Rodney ever even
sees Magic Johnson on that boat? Like it's so big?
Did you see the the the drone shot that Magic posted?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, No, the boat's enormous. But here's the way it works,
because Rodney has told us Dan, Uh, I think everybody
gets up in the morning and has breakfast. Okay, so
now you've seen you've you've seen everybody, and then you
can go into town. You can stand the boat. Everybody
can go to it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You're retired to your own province on the boat. Your
small your small province.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But the boat, everybody must come together for dinner. That
I know. That's the rule. Everybody do whatever you want.
But when we have dinner and you'll know what time
it is. And sometimes it's on the boat, and sometimes
it's in the town. We all go to dinner together.
That's that's the Magic Johnson boat rules.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
So it's like a cruise.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Good way to get your t it's a good way
to get your ten thousand steps in walking from your
room to wherever Magic's dinner on that thing. Oh my god,
you know what.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I don't know if it's the same boat. I think
last year or two years ago, Magic actually rented Stan
Kronkey's boat. Stan Kronkey owns a boat like that, and
I think Magic and Stan leases it out. I think
Magic use Stan Qunkey's boat one year. Maybe it's this
year too.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I don't know, Ben, what's the biggest boat you've ever
been on? Me? Either of you guys? Have you guys ever?
I mean, are.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
No. I've been on the Queen Mary. I've been on
the Queen Mary for.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I've been on the Queen Mary too. I'm married on
the Queen Mary.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You did really well?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
It was we toured the venue. Did I get married
on the Queen Mary?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You thought about it?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
One of the Queen Mary. The Queen Mary couldn't go
in water. It was just dot correct, right, I mean
a boat that's been in the water. What's the biggest boat.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Uh, aloat like an a person sailboat. No, I've been
on the ferry to Catalina. That's probably the biggest.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Oh, yeah, I've been on that. I was on a
boat on Lake Superior one time. That was kind of
big out riving around Lake Superior. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, like a like a ferry, like some side of.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The exactly the ferry.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I was on the Bablo boat.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Nobody answered the Bablo boat was no idea? Yeah, what
is that for?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
The Babelo boat? And I asked Steve Balmer, This Steve
Balmer's from Detroit, and I said, if you're really from Detroit,
I don't believe you tell me what the Babelo boat is.
And he knew.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Is that Detroit to Toronto.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
No, it was right to Babelo Island and it was
an amusement and you would take the Babelo boat and go.
But he knew what that boat was. I've never been
on a boat from Detroit to Toronto.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I don't think you can get to Toronto from That's
one of the reasons that's from the problems.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, you gotta you ever seen Niagara Falls?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I have. I've been to Niagara Falls.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Isn't it spectacular?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's amazing. Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Dang, you ever seen Niagara Falls?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Just on nature films? Never?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Now, Frid have you gone? I was very disappointed because
I went to the I was on the US side
and then I crossed over to the canad Canada side.
It was the same thing. Yeah, exactly, well one of
those other countries. Yeah, but it was the same thing.
It was just different money.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But you know, but we saw it at night and
that was really beautiful.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Did you take the boat though? Did you go on
the boat? We go around?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
No, we did that.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
They give you a they give you a poncho and
it's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
No, we didn't do that. All right, Well, Dan, thanks
for coming on today.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, thanks, guys, have a great have a great Fourth
of July.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Everybody, Marinas enjoy the hot dogs.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Merit Maritime Insider of the Rogan and Rodney Show.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
All right, Dan, So I read this love letter you
wrote about DeAndre Ayden, So are you all in on
this guy? Now?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I think of the options, certainly you know, he cost
them almost nothing. He is a very talented basketball player
who was in the NBA Finals as the starting center
four years ago, and is a capable pick and roll
partner that Luka Doncic wanted to play with. Like, compared
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to the options that were out there, this is a
slam dunk. Now. There's a reason he was an option
that was out there, right, and that's because you know,
there have been questions about his motivation, about his professionalism.
Does he understand where he stands in a hierarchy in
a locker room? Hasn't always gotten along with coaches. There
are things like that that are in play certainly, But
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I think if you can get a great player at
a time when he needs to be great, you know,
I mean, whether or not he's good this year or
not is probably the difference between I don't know whether
or not he makes another one hundred million dollars or
so in the NBA or if he makes another twenty
like it's it's a massive season for him. He turns
twenty seven at the end of July, so still a
(06:11):
fair young player. Uh yeah, what's not to like? Guys?
I mean, I think now I think we can like
slow down on the Kareem Wilt Shack graphics. We can
hill on that for a minute. Ye, but I like it,
but on the whole, Like I'm like, yeah, I like it.
What's not to like?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Well, you mentioned some of the things not to like it,
but I'm curious, Like I'm curious, Like seriously, we talked
about this yesterday. I was in for Rodney yesterday with
Fred is like every generation in the NBA, every sport
has guys that are really talented, but they're enigmas. And
I was trying to think, you know, I've watched the
NBA a long time, have there have there been guys
that were titled that? And then change the narrative, like
(06:53):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Recall a World Peace met a World Peace, but he was.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
A he was good?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Is that the only example?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I think?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
But I mean that's one. I mean like Dennis Brodman
certainly that was certainly more of his sort of persona
through a time. Like the name that came to my
mind right away was met a World Piece. What I
thought about this, And you know they're they're different, right,
like Denner it was the number one overall pick. So
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like there's like they start from a different position here.
But I but I think, right, like the DeAndre Ayton stuff,
despite all of this, he's been a a minimal, like
an empty stats production player, right. And I would even
argue that I don't even think the stats have been
that empty the last two years. They have been in
(07:41):
a weird situation in Portland. But look, this was a
guy that you know, as a young player trying to
get a max deal. The only reason he got it
from the team he played for was because they matched
Indiana pace the Indiana offer, Right, So he really wasn't
He really wasn't an eye of the beholder type of thing.
And in Phoenix, and it was a little sideways that
(08:03):
the coach didn't totally understand where he was in the
hierarchy of the team. You know, I'm gonna sound like
gona make excuses, these are excuses. I'm just that this
is the pot this is the positive argument though for it. Right,
So all that stuff is true, you know, but he
was still the starting center on a championship team. You know,
made a huge play against the Clippers in the in
(08:26):
the Western Conference finals. So I mean, like, this guy's
played in big games and done big game stuff, you know,
the Valley Oop. I think was the clever headline that
everybody used for that play. And like you said, he's
really really talented. Right When people talk about the twenty
eighteen NBA draft, like there isn't a ton of like, boy,
Phoenix was really stupid, they should have drafted Luka Doncic,
(08:49):
Like there's an element of that, but I think everybody,
like the consensus at the time was basically take Deander eight.
You know. Now Sacramento gets like it gets kind of
breaked over coals for drafting Marvin Bagley second, But that's
these like it's a really talented guy.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I think what I tried to write today is like
you were getting him. I thinking about as good of
a time as you can, right, like someone else has
fitted as someone else is putting the financial risk. You're
not tied into him long term at all. He conceivably
should be motivated because the team just gave him a
bunch of money to go away, you know, and he's
playing with the player and Luka Doncic that he knows
it wants to play with him. And you know who
(09:34):
he has known since he entered the league and who
was a great pick and role player, And when did
Deander eight and play his best basketball guys with Chris
Paul running pick and roll? Like, I just I don't
totally understand the negativity on this one defensively, Like, I mean,
he's not he's not Rudy Gobert, But like this team,
I don't think this team needed Rudy Gobert. This team
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needed a seven foot guy it could put out there
for twenty eight minutes a game, in a big game.
And they didn't trust Jackson as that. You know, Deander
Aiden's like a different level of talent to Jackson has.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Understood. But it's his attitude, Dan, that's the question.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Sure, sure, sure, And I think like again, and and
and I think we're not that long removed from him
being the starting center on the NBA Finals team, And like,
the attitude has to get better, the maturity has to
get better. You know, it should be the buyout should
be a twenty million dollars wake up call, you know,
(10:29):
I mean you get to look out the money, So
it's a two million dollars wake up call because that's
what he sacrificed. It's like it should should be a
wake up call.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But Dan, is it is it what about the conspiracy.
I don't even know if it is a conspiracy that
this was all done behind the scenes because the artist,
you know, so he knew he could go to the Lakers, right,
this was all when he when he worked out with
his agent the buyout.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
But yeah, but Ben, it's it's not this deal, it's
the next one, right, Like, that's what's at stake here
is like the money in front of him. But this
is a young player, like he should if he forms
to his ability. I mean, this is what seven more
years in the NBA. Yeah, I mean that's really like
it's overall it's I mean, in seven more years in
(11:09):
the NBA takes them to thirty four too, right, Like,
I mean it could be longer than that, should he
want it. I mean there's I don't think it's an
overseteamer to say there are one hundreds of millions of
dollars at stake for this player. Now, that might not
be enough. It might not be enough. He like, he
might be a problem here and it might now work.
That's certainly in play. But if you're the Lakers and
(11:30):
you're faced with that is the decision right where you
wanted to kind of still be flexible moving forwards, as
you know, chase bigger fish in the future, as you
move on from the Lebron James there into like firmly
into the Lukadaci area, like you hang on to your
draft assets that you might need in future transactions. You
don't sacrifice the ton of cav face or move on
(11:53):
a player that maybe you don't love to begin with
that just is a center and so you get them.
I just kind of think like, based on the circumstances,
they're about as good as they could have done.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah. Well, the concern though, Dan, you know, on my
show last night, we took calls from people and took
comments from people in Phoenix and in Portland, and nobody
was like, oh man, we really the Suns fans even
as you said they were in the finals, nobody's like,
oh man, we really let eight and get away. Man
that was And in Portland they didn't really mind he
left at all.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
So that's a man I can tell you, Ben, Yeah,
I mean I can tell you In Phoenix. I mean,
when when it was pretty clear that Usuf Nurkics wasn't
going to be the guy, They're like, I mean they
missed him. Now, Like if you re litigated that trade.
The guy that they probably really wish they had back
was Toumani Kamara, right, who was the second round pick
that was thrown in in that deal. He's become one
(12:41):
of the best point of attack defenders in the NBA. Again,
I don't disagree with you on any of the stuff, guys,
and I want to be totally clear to Laker fans,
this stuff is a story. It will be a story
throughout the season. It's gonna be something we monitor, just
like we monitor Luca Doncers' conditioning, just like we're gonna
monitor Lebron James's attitude, just like we're gonna monitor Austin Reeves.
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Is like chance to like go from being you know,
turning down a chance to be a twenty two million
dollars in the quest of being a forty million dollar
play like we're gonna watch all this stuff. I just
think that in a world where the Lakers had limited
ways to get better at center, they really did. Okay,
they weren't getting Walker Cussler. That trade was not happening,
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you know, for for what the Lakers were gonna put
in play like they were not going to get I
don't know, like if it was Nick Claxton we're talking about.
I mean, I've written this fourth Like the Nick Claxton
thing was like this is a guy that like not
everybody was like, this is our future. You know. Clopez
is thirty seven years old and doesn't play the style
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that Lukadacich wants to play. He's a very good player.
It's an awesome signing for the Clippers. But that's not
that that wasn't going to be an answer here. This
has an opportunity to be both the short term and
a long term answer. And if it's not the short
term answer, it doesn't screw up the question for the
long term.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
One, all right. And as an insurance policy, they still
pursue Horford because apparently looking at the Lakers and Warriors.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, Lakers, Warriors retirement, it seems like are the options
that are out there for Al Horford. I think he'd
be a tremendous, tremendous insurance policy. Beyond that, really really
smart player. First, the defender can space the floor. Again,
not not the Lucadacs lab threat, but good, good, smart player.
You can't have enough of them. Championship championship pedigree played
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in huge games would be a great get. Golden State
can offer more money, Golden State can offer a starting spot.
I think I would handicap it as the Lakers being
a slight underdog. Yeah, well, Dan, what about or good
or actually maybe not even slight? Yeah, but but but yeah,
I mean, like Corford Isle just like perfect for how
they want to play. But look, I mean there's a chance,
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there's there's a chance potentially just something pretty special in
Los Angeles if he's able to join that team.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
All right, So, Dan, we love rumors. Rumors are great.
There's a rumor going around the Heat and Lakers if
the Lakers want to get Andrew Wiggins they have to
give up Dalton connect Ruey and a first round pick.
That's what the Heat supposedly are seeking. Is it any
chance of that happens? No, I don't think so think
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got too much zero, that's it not gonna happen. I
just yeah, I don't think like I like Andrew Wiggins.
I think that it would be a good contract in
some ways to have on the books, should the Lakers
be in a big time pursuit of somebody, you know,
as soon as next summer. But I mean I think
a good way. I saw somebody post to say, and
I think there's a good way of looking at it
(15:44):
when it comes to that first round pick, right, And
I know everybody wants Lakers to trade that pick to
get better, and I'm just this is I think what
you have to consider if you're gonna put it into play,
if you don't trade that pick, all right, if you
don't trade twenty thirty one next year on draft night
twenty twenty six Draft night, you can call any team
in the NBA and offer three first Okay, like they
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can offer.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
The twenty twenty six pick, they can offer the twenty
thirty one pick, they can offer the twenty thirty three
pick that elevates the type of guy you can start
looking to add, just like versus like trading one or
trading two. I think if you're using that pick now
to get better, you know, I'm not again not advocating
against it. I'm just just sharing I think where the
Lakers thinking is on this. I think they would use
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they would use it if they found themselves in the
position to get a long term player that they thought
fit with Luka Doncics and fit with what they were
trying to do going forward. I would just say, like,
I mean, like Andrew Wiggins is good number one pick
also is one of the titles, guys, do is you
know how much better than Ruey hot tomuraw where you're
trading your two best assets for it and Ruby hot Tomura.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I just think that's an l Yeah, I agree, I
Wiggins is all right, but I think he's he was
over over value.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
He's more of a wing than a forward, I guess,
which is like the logic behind it. But that's something
that's a lot to pay for, just sort of a
realignment on positions. Some the Lakers like, all.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right, Dan, well, thank you for coming on. Thank you
for this insight. Greatly appreciated.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Guys. I hope you're paying me by the word today.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Very word is a long segment. We gotta pay Dan
extra man. That is a full extended dance remix. Dan,
take a break there.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
You know what, Fred you called it a love letter,
and I just got to say, so the love when
I when I really I'm much more romantic than that.
That was a that was a like letter, Like.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
All right, it's a very all right see it Dan?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
No flowers.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So Kevin has done some homework. Ben okay, and we
talked about this last hour. If you're just joining us,
you know, Ben talked about the fact that he had
gone to a carnival aside show whatever you would like
to call it, a little circus, and played the games
and at one point did win by throwing a softball into.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
A wicker wooden basket. It was like a wooden basket.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, but there's an art form to it because you know,
there's a spring at the back. And then Ben pointed
out somebody on YouTube has created cheap videos to help
you want at the carnivals. And Kevin, you have found
one of those. Is that correct? Yes, yes, I will
say the answer to that is yes, yes, looking at
it right now.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
He's hard at work. He's studying the video.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Is what he's studying the video so he can explain
it to us like this's a bruder film. So when
we come back, we will find out the real way
to win at the carnivals. Okay, we've got that coming
up two o'clock. Net Colletti will join the show.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
All Right, Ben Maller today for Rodney and a Throwback Thursday,
as we get ready for the fourth of July. We
talked about this last hour very important information we're going
to impart upon you. If you go to a fair
side show and you want to compete in the little
games a carnival, they're rigged against you. But Ben pointed
out that there are cheat sheets that you can look
at on YouTube, and Kevin, you have found one of them.
(19:16):
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So this is for a game called the tub toss. Now,
if you've seen these giant red tubs, usually you might
see them if you go for a picnic or something
and you throw ice and drinks in it. But they
actually take these tubs and line them up and give
you balls. And the objective is to toss a certain
number of balls into these tubs that if you get
a certain amount, you'll want a prize. And the issue
that a lot of people find is they throw the
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ball and they constantly bounce out, they never stay in,
so people believe that it's potentially rigged. There's no way
to win. So I did find this one gentleman on
YouTube who what kind of walks you through exactly what
the strategy is to be able to win this game
in particular, So let's take a listen to it.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
The tricks to be able to win this carnival game
tub toss. So you don't want to throw it too
hard because if you do, it ll bounce out. And
you don't want to throw it too soft because it
won't go in. You basically want to aim for the lift.
Generally throw it out a little backsmen, and trust me,
when you get the hang of this game, you'll win
every time. Let me know how you do give it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So basically you toss it towards the lip of the
tub and you want it to kind of roll over.
So you don't want to toss it directly in. You
don't want to short arm it, it'll bounce off. You
just basically want to aim for the lip.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It's like the the wrist movement. Correct prop the risk
english on it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yes, backspin, that's exactly thanks exactly why Ben he wants
you to put some backspin on it.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It's a pitcher, right, correct, there you go, that's right,
so we have that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
That was very good. That was a good pull. Kevin.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Well, you know the basketball one too. They have the
rims are not regulation rims right there, higher than regulation
rims and the basketball things they have there and they
I remember one of the videos I watched he talked
about Dad and the the the you can't use the backboard.
The rim is oval, but it's higher than regulation and
so you essentially have to swish it. You can't use
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the backboard or the rim, it'll fall off.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
The basket rims. It's not as large as a regular rim.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, I think that's yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Well, for like like in the NBA, you can fit
two basketballs inside of the rim. I don't think you
can fit two of these little even like their miniature
games or whatever. I don't think that's the exact dimensions
of the rim. They make it a lot more difficult
for you to be able to make it. You essentially
have to shoot a perfect shot to.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Get The rim is thicker, correct if you look at
it right.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, it's designed to the ball if it'll.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Fall off, so bounce off as opposed to roll over
the lip.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah. You know I look when I used to go
to the Carnival and I mentioned it earlier, or the fair.
Growing up you would see Jojo the dog Face girl
and see low.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I feel like that's not a thing anymore. By the way,
what they used to call them freak shows for Editford,
to be honest, that's that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no not. They
weren't called freak shows when I went. They had carnival
games and stuff. They had carnival games and then they
would have these well I guess maybe it was a
freak show. Now, wait, what do you think I'm talking
about here?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Like, did this person who has this some sort of
malady that they just don't what do you mean it's
not it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
A freak of course it was, but they didn't call it.
That is what I'm saying, Kevin. No, I discussed that
I went all these years. I didn't realize what I
had done. I just thought I was going on like
a Saturday. Now, that was very troubling.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
If you want to see the freak show, you go
to the Fremont Street Experience there in Vegas. You'll see
all that right there is walk down the street there
at night, you'll see all the people used to be
at the Freak Show walking down the street there.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
That's a tough way I gotta tell you, that's a
tough way to make a living. Little bit little bit, Yeah,
you think about it. Yeah, is the dark people deserve
to work too. I mean, look, it was a woman,
but she had a full beard, and that's why they
called her that Jojo the dog faced woman. She had
(22:55):
a full beard. It's not like she had a tail
or anything. She didn't look like a dog protruding snout
or something. Well, were you a kid when.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
You saw this? Is this something you still remember as
like a child watching or were you already grown up
when you saw this?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I was about twelve, That's a that's a perfect age.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Twelve you were you know, you're young still, but you're
you're old enough to kind of know what's going on. So,
and that was the Freak Show act that really stood out.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, the other one was se low And who was
ce Loos? Was not Selo Green?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So who was he was not Selo Green? And it's interesting,
it's kind of interesting to describe se loo Uh. First
of all, for the purposes of a sports audience who
remembers the great Chicago White Sox player Walter no Neck Williams.
Do you remember Walter no neck Williams. Okay, Walter no
(23:44):
neck Williams looked like a guy who had no neck.
He was a baseball player, so it looked like his
head was attached directly to his shoulders. No, he had
a little neck, but that's they called him no neck,
all right, So se Low his head was like that.
But it was really weird because he really didn't have
(24:07):
long arms. Okay, so now you can see it, and
now he actually didn't have long legs. So his feet
were kind of attached to his knees, and his hands
were attached to his elbows. And he'd walk around with
a cigar and he'd say, I want to hug all
the little girls here. They didn't say little girls. I
(24:28):
want to hug all the girls. Yeah, that was se
Love and I remember that to this day.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
It sounds like it'd be pretty hard to forget Fred.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
So that's that's next level for it. You know, you
have the human cannonball, you get the fire breathing, but
you're going next level with that though. That's that's a
higher level.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah. Well listen, and now I mean talking about it
and working it out. You can see how you're affected
as a child by things you see. Oh for sure,
I didn't even realize it. Now I know I've been scarred. Yeah,
after this many years, it stays with me. Ben, I
am scarred.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Fred. I hear you, I hear you. They don't do
that anymore though, as Kevin said, right, they like. I've
been to the La County Fair, the Orange County Fair
in recent years. I don't remember seeing anything close. They
didn't even have the human cannonball anymore, or the person
eating glass. I don't think they do that anymore. All
the old side shows they used to have back in
the day. I think they've gotten rid of almost all
of the.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Old flame and sore down the throat thing. Is that
still a thing? Stuff like that?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You know, we do have. I just saw a human
cannonball you did wear okay out here out here it
was like at the I don't know what it was
at It was like the India show Grounds or something.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Is that right? Oh good? I thought they got rid
of that.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
A guy who was the human cannonball. And the problem
is they didn't factor in the wind on that day.
Oh yeah, didn't end well for him. He hit the net,
but he bounced and he got pretty banged up. He's okay,
he's all right, but he went down. It wasn't good.
(26:05):
But you know the greatest human canniball. Do you remember
this that Captain Dynamite. Remember Captain Dynamite?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
No, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't think. I probably do, but I don't if
you if I saw it, i'd probably remember it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
We we We showed it on the Hall of Shame
one hundred years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Captain Dynamite, Well, I probably saw it there for it
when I was watching it on TV back.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Okay, so he showed it and the great Captain and
Colin Cowhard was actually doing local television sports. So Captain
Dynamite blasts out of a cannon, he hits the net.
Colin Cowhard runs up to him and says, hey, can
you hear? And Captain Dynamite says, I'd love a beer.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
He couldn't hear, So yeah, him and Cannonball still exists.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Now, is there? I know back in the day, I
remember Evil Knievo was huge for years. Is there anyone
doing those kind of snuts now?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Right?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
There's nobody doing am I missing somebody on somebody on
YouTube or something that's ben.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
There was a guy out here three weeks ago that
just jumped over thirty BMW's on a motorcycle.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, that is Evil Canevel did the motorcycle jump back
in then, you know, over the casino in Vegas or whatever.
The Daredevil human.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Daredevil, right, and then his son was Rodney can.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, yeah, the Medievil family.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Sure, all right, Well that'll complete our segment on daredevil's
and side shows and freight shows.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Who do you have in the hot dog? Who do
you have in the hot dog contest tomorrow? Fred at
the fourth?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Don't you gotta go? Joey Chess not you got it.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
He's chalk Man, He's he's the Og, He's the Babe Ruth,
He's the Tom Brady, He's the greatest of all Time's
the Jordan of hot dogs. Gotta go with it.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
It's like seventy six hot dogs, right, I think that's
the record, and he's got ten minutes to break it.
And he sat out last year a contoy.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
He didn't sit out. There was a dispar because he
he endorsed a vegan dog and you're not. It was
a it was a non meat dog and then he
got kicked out last year his band Big Scandal. By
the way.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So his record, by the way is eighty three hot
dogs in ten minutes. He's getting older those three hot
dogs in tutes. And by the way, there is an
over under seventy one and a half for tomorrow. Anybody
wants action on that, I have his number.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I have his number for it. If you want to
call him. I've had him on my podcast before. He's
not the most social guy.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Call him. I'll get with you a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I'll give Kevin the number. Normally he doesn't do interviews
right before the event, but I'll give Kevin his number
and then you can call him up and then he'll say,
who are.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You coase I'll get yelled at.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Great.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, as long as you just don't say you got
it from me, all right, don't say you got it
from me.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Doesn't he have to eat it with the bun? Isn't
that right? You got to see you do have to
the buns?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Do count?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Dog and bun? Yeah dog? And fine? And you can't
you have to wait? Don't they wait a few minutes
after to make sure you don't have a reversal of fortune.
I believe that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Ben, You're right, yeah, because if you do, I think
that eliminates you.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
So you got to keep it down there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I've always been curious how he does that. Yeah, maybe
Kevin can call him and get yelled at. That'd be good.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So I know he trains like year round. He holds
like multiple different records, not just hot dogs, all sorts
of different things.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
No, he told me he moved. He's from northern California.
He told me he moved to Indianapolis because it's more central,
because most of the eating events are on the East
coast or in the Midwest. So he lives literally moved
his entire life to Indianapolis school he'd be closer to
travel to the different events that he eats at. He
makes it he's making a lot of money doing that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, what does he make?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Well, I don't know. I'm sure the internet will tell
you what he makes, but I think it's hundreds of thousands.
If not, you know, I think the peak he probably
made it over a million or close to it, just
eating random foods like he'll he'll make deals with like
raising canes and eat nothing but chicken fingers, you know,
set a record for that. He's got like a million
different records. I'll send a number.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Earlier this year, apparently he won the Ultimate Balogoney Showdown
where he ate fifteen pounds twelve ounces of blooney slices
in eight minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Fifteen pounds of baloney. Now that's him eating good eating,
good eating right there? You know what, that's a That's
why Joey Chestnut is who he is.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
The real video, though, Fred is what happens the day
after and the you know, the night the night after.
That's where the real drama happens with Joey Chesny. That's
where he earns his money. Well, what has got it?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I can imagine when nature takes his course there from
you and you're you're on the throne, and all that
has to exit one way or another.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
See similar to a lot of people who didn't want
to see the Muncie replay from last night, I have
no desire to see that, Ben, I'll pass.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
No.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
That's where you earn your money, though. Imagine the ravage
that your body takes when you consume eighty plus hot
dogs in ten minutes. God, here is.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
The question is your defense affecting your offense and we'll
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Speaker 1 (31:28):
All right, Dustin Man the Mountain Tonight for the Dodgers
as they try to wrap things up in a positive
way with a white Sox. When you look at Mookie
Betts at this point in the year, Ben, Yeah, there
just seems to be in my mind kind of a
perception he cannot wait to get back to the bench
quick enough. I mean, first pitch, baan swing, second pitch swing.
(31:51):
They're not falling form. I mean, I've never seen a
guy he is up there and he is not gonna
waste any pitches. He is just swinging away and they're
not falling form. But it makes you think, you know,
is he focusing And I'm not sure I even believe this,
but some are suggesting it is he focusing too much
on defense. And if that's the case, it's affecting his hitting.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Well, I don't know what it is, but it's not
Whatever it is, they got to figure it out. I mean,
we're already coming up on the fourth of July here
and you start looking down the line and if Munthsy's
going to be out, we don't know yet. Have we
heard any word yet. I'm trying to find something on Months.
We haven't heard anyth yet.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I can't yet.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
We haven't seen it yet on Munsi. So if Months
he's out, it seems like he's hat a while. And
so you're you take Mookie Bets, who's he's not playing
like the usual Mookie Bets. This is not the MVP
All Star version of Mookie Bets. Obviously. Uh, they got
to figure something out, and it's worth to me it's
worth a shot if if you can get Mookie's back back.
I know, Dave Roberts keeps saying it's not because he's
(32:47):
playing shortstop and all that, but if you remember last year,
they moved him back to the outfield last year because
he was having some issues, got hurt, whatever, they put
him back in the outfield, it's worth a shot to
put him back in the outfield to see if he
start hitting, because they you know, two forty six batting
batting averages an old stat and all that, but he's
just not very productive in any in any way. And
(33:08):
it's been it's been how many months has it been
now word into July. So they got to figure something
out because you know, whether this is a hangover from
the illness that he had to begin the year, I mean,
is it is it lingering? There's something going on there,
and they got to figure it out because they're not
getting the you know, two hundred three hundred million dollar
level Mookie bets. They're getting a replacement level Mookie bets.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah. And here's the thing I just can't believe. And
there are people that know far more than I do. Yeah,
but he's concentrating so much on his defense now that
it's affecting his hitting. I don't buy that. I just
don't buy that. I would err on the side of,
you know, after he lost all that weight early in
(33:52):
the year, it's a lot harder to come back than
you think. I would suggest that, or the other option
would be he's just slumping right now.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, Well, if you look the last I go back
forty last forty one games, Mookie Bets is batting two
twenty two or the last forty one games, and he's
got three home runs in that time over forty one games.
I mean, this is a guy, it's a central figure
obviously in your life. Everyone knows that watches the Dodgers,
and I think it's worth a shot. I would say,
(34:24):
if he doesn't start hitting, and it's not some kind
of you know, creeping crud that he's got that they're
not telling us about, that's kind of hanging around and
all that, then I would I would move things around.
I mean, the Dodgers are gonna have to make some
moves here. If Munsey's out, They're gonna have to to
make either they make a trade or they they change
some guys around in the in the field. They're gonna
have to do it now. They didn't make a roster
(34:45):
move a guy that used to lead let baseball and
steels a couple years ago for the A's. They called
this guy up Ruiz, right esther Ruiz. They called him
absolutely so he'll be there. But he's an outfielder. He's
not an infielder, as far as.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I know, you know a guy to look at, and
I maybe they have, maybe they don't care. Ryan McMann
of Colorado a third baseman. That guy can hit. I
think he'd he'd do well at Dodgers seeing him.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I worry about guys with the Rockies though, because they
because of playing at cours Field. You know, what are
his numbers on the road, because those guys usually are
much better in Colorado right than they are on the road.
And is that you take a guy like that? Now?
There have been exceptions that have left the Rockies have
done well, but most of those guys are a shadow
of what they were with the Rockies.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
No, I know, I know, I think he gets all
right on the road, though I do. That'd be a
guy I would just keep an eye on. I just
think about that guy if I were to Dodgers and
they know far more than I do.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So I'm looking at his career home and away. So
at home batting average two sixty four, on the road
two sixteen. He has an OPS which is a big
number nowadays, very very steep decline eight eighteen at home,
six sixty four on the road. So his production is
that he gives most of his production at home than
he does on the road. Eighty five home runs career
(35:59):
at home, fifty one on the road.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
So my point is if the Dodgers were to sign them,
they would then play their home games in Denver.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, right, they can trade stadiums. They'll just uh, they'll
they'll pick up the stadium, move it to Colorado, and
then they'll pick up course field and then move that
over here.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
And no, no, what they're gonna with the Duke Kevin
is they'll they'll actually raise Dodgers Stadium up to a
mile up to pick it up only when they're hitting.
Only when they're hitting. They'll pick the ballpark up because
they can do that. They have no listen, they have
enough money. They play floating floating stadium.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, talk about home field advantage, man. When the Dodgers
are up the stadium goes up in the sky.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
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All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Big Ben Maller
in today for Rodney on a five seventy LA Sports
as we cruise into the fourth of July weekend later
this hour. Next segment, maybe this will be an inside
tip of how to win at the carnival, and Ben
brought it up. Kevin has found it and we'll look
(00:21):
forward to hearing it. The way you can guarantee you
spend your money and you win at the carnival. And
I think that will be the most important information we
will impart today.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Ben, I don't think we should overseell guaranteed win now, Kevin,
you guys sell it man.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And by the way, this is gonna the people over
at the La County Fair are not gonna like this,
for we're gonna get in trouble because everyone's gonna win
stuffed animals when they go to the fair. You're gonna
win it cash in big money.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
If we're not here for the people, what are we doing.
If we're not here to help people, why are we here?
This is what people want and we're gonna get to
it coming up. But now let's bring on a man.
I think he spent some time at a few carnivals
in his life. From the Athletic Our good friend Dan Waki, Dan,
how are you today?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Guys? Love a good carnival, Love a good Fourth of
July carnival, like the like the spaceship that goes around
the gravitron, Like the ride that plays really bad eighties
having metal music as it spins around them, circle really quickly.
Take a lot of lead af Ford stuff like that. Hey, guys, uh,
fred I heard you say the word cruise there. I
(01:23):
just gotta tell you. Do you think Rodney ever even
sees Magic Johnson on that boat? Like it's so big?
Did you see the the the drone shot that Magic posted?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, No, the boat's enormous. But here's the way it works,
because Rodney has told us Dan, Uh, I think everybody
gets up in the morning and has breakfast. Okay, so
now you've seen you've you've seen everybody, and then you
can go into town. You can stand the boat. Everybody
can go to it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You're retired to your own province on the boat. Your
small your small province.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But the boat, everybody must come together for dinner. That
I know. That's the rule. Everybody do whatever you want.
But when we have dinner and you'll know what time
it is. And sometimes it's on the boat, and sometimes
it's in the town. We all go to dinner together.
That's that's the Magic Johnson boat rules.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
So it's like a cruise.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Good way to get your t it's a good way
to get your ten thousand steps in walking from your
room to wherever Magic's dinner on that thing. Oh my god,
you know what.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I don't know if it's the same boat. I think
last year or two years ago, Magic actually rented Stan
Kronkey's boat. Stan Kronkey owns a boat like that, and
I think Magic and Stan leases it out. I think
Magic use Stan Qunkey's boat one year. Maybe it's this
year too.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I don't know, Ben, what's the biggest boat you've ever
been on? Me? Either of you guys? Have you guys ever?
I mean, are.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
No. I've been on the Queen Mary. I've been on
the Queen Mary for.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I've been on the Queen Mary too. I'm married on
the Queen Mary.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You did really well?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
It was we toured the venue. Did I get married
on the Queen Mary?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You thought about it?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
One of the Queen Mary. The Queen Mary couldn't go
in water. It was just dot correct, right, I mean
a boat that's been in the water. What's the biggest boat.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Uh, aloat like an a person sailboat. No, I've been
on the ferry to Catalina. That's probably the biggest.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Oh, yeah, I've been on that. I was on a
boat on Lake Superior one time. That was kind of
big out riving around Lake Superior. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, like a like a ferry, like some side of.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The exactly the ferry.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I was on the Bablo boat.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Nobody answered the Bablo boat was no idea? Yeah, what
is that for?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
The Babelo boat? And I asked Steve Balmer, This Steve
Balmer's from Detroit, and I said, if you're really from Detroit,
I don't believe you tell me what the Babelo boat is.
And he knew.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Is that Detroit to Toronto.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
No, it was right to Babelo Island and it was
an amusement and you would take the Babelo boat and go.
But he knew what that boat was. I've never been
on a boat from Detroit to Toronto.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I don't think you can get to Toronto from That's
one of the reasons that's from the problems.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, you gotta you ever seen Niagara Falls?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I have. I've been to Niagara Falls.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Isn't it spectacular?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's amazing. Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Dang, you ever seen Niagara Falls?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Just on nature films? Never?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Now, Frid have you gone? I was very disappointed because
I went to the I was on the US side
and then I crossed over to the canad Canada side.
It was the same thing. Yeah, exactly, well one of
those other countries. Yeah, but it was the same thing.
It was just different money.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But you know, but we saw it at night and
that was really beautiful.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Did you take the boat though? Did you go on
the boat? We go around?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
No, we did that.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
They give you a they give you a poncho and
it's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
No, we didn't do that. All right, Well, Dan, thanks
for coming on today.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, thanks, guys, have a great have a great Fourth
of July.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Everybody, Marinas enjoy the hot dogs.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
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Speaker 1 (04:58):
All right, Dan, So I read this love letter you
wrote about DeAndre Ayden, So are you all in on
this guy? Now?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I think of the options, certainly you know, he cost
them almost nothing. He is a very talented basketball player
who was in the NBA Finals as the starting center
four years ago, and is a capable pick and roll
partner that Luka Doncic wanted to play with. Like, compared
(05:26):
to the options that were out there, this is a
slam dunk. Now. There's a reason he was an option
that was out there, right, and that's because you know,
there have been questions about his motivation, about his professionalism.
Does he understand where he stands in a hierarchy in
a locker room? Hasn't always gotten along with coaches. There
are things like that that are in play certainly, But
(05:49):
I think if you can get a great player at
a time when he needs to be great, you know,
I mean, whether or not he's good this year or
not is probably the difference between I don't know whether
or not he makes another one hundred million dollars or
so in the NBA or if he makes another twenty
like it's it's a massive season for him. He turns
twenty seven at the end of July, so still a
(06:11):
fair young player. Uh yeah, what's not to like? Guys?
I mean, I think now I think we can like
slow down on the Kareem Wilt Shack graphics. We can
hill on that for a minute. Ye, but I like it,
but on the whole, Like I'm like, yeah, I like it.
What's not to like?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Well, you mentioned some of the things not to like it,
but I'm curious, Like I'm curious, Like seriously, we talked
about this yesterday. I was in for Rodney yesterday with
Fred is like every generation in the NBA, every sport
has guys that are really talented, but they're enigmas. And
I was trying to think, you know, I've watched the
NBA a long time, have there have there been guys
that were titled that? And then change the narrative, like
(06:53):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Recall a World Peace met a World Peace, but he was.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
A he was good?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Is that the only example?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I think?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
But I mean that's one. I mean like Dennis Brodman
certainly that was certainly more of his sort of persona
through a time. Like the name that came to my
mind right away was met a World Piece. What I
thought about this, And you know they're they're different, right,
like Denner it was the number one overall pick. So
(07:21):
like there's like they start from a different position here.
But I but I think, right, like the DeAndre Ayton stuff,
despite all of this, he's been a a minimal, like
an empty stats production player, right. And I would even
argue that I don't even think the stats have been
that empty the last two years. They have been in
(07:41):
a weird situation in Portland. But look, this was a
guy that you know, as a young player trying to
get a max deal. The only reason he got it
from the team he played for was because they matched
Indiana pace the Indiana offer, Right, So he really wasn't
He really wasn't an eye of the beholder type of thing.
And in Phoenix, and it was a little sideways that
(08:03):
the coach didn't totally understand where he was in the
hierarchy of the team. You know, I'm gonna sound like
gona make excuses, these are excuses. I'm just that this
is the pot this is the positive argument though for it. Right,
So all that stuff is true, you know, but he
was still the starting center on a championship team. You know,
made a huge play against the Clippers in the in
(08:26):
the Western Conference finals. So I mean, like, this guy's
played in big games and done big game stuff, you know,
the Valley Oop. I think was the clever headline that
everybody used for that play. And like you said, he's
really really talented. Right When people talk about the twenty
eighteen NBA draft, like there isn't a ton of like, boy,
Phoenix was really stupid, they should have drafted Luka Doncic,
(08:49):
Like there's an element of that, but I think everybody,
like the consensus at the time was basically take Deander eight.
You know. Now Sacramento gets like it gets kind of
breaked over coals for drafting Marvin Bagley second, But that's
these like it's a really talented guy.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I think what I tried to write today is like
you were getting him. I thinking about as good of
a time as you can, right, like someone else has
fitted as someone else is putting the financial risk. You're
not tied into him long term at all. He conceivably
should be motivated because the team just gave him a
bunch of money to go away, you know, and he's
playing with the player and Luka Doncic that he knows
it wants to play with him. And you know who
(09:34):
he has known since he entered the league and who
was a great pick and role player, And when did
Deander eight and play his best basketball guys with Chris
Paul running pick and roll? Like, I just I don't
totally understand the negativity on this one defensively, Like, I mean,
he's not he's not Rudy Gobert, But like this team,
I don't think this team needed Rudy Gobert. This team
(09:55):
needed a seven foot guy it could put out there
for twenty eight minutes a game, in a big game.
And they didn't trust Jackson as that. You know, Deander
Aiden's like a different level of talent to Jackson has.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Understood. But it's his attitude, Dan, that's the question.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Sure, sure, sure, And I think like again, and and
and I think we're not that long removed from him
being the starting center on the NBA Finals team, And like,
the attitude has to get better, the maturity has to
get better. You know, it should be the buyout should
be a twenty million dollars wake up call, you know,
(10:29):
I mean you get to look out the money, So
it's a two million dollars wake up call because that's
what he sacrificed. It's like it should should be a
wake up call.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But Dan, is it is it what about the conspiracy.
I don't even know if it is a conspiracy that
this was all done behind the scenes because the artist,
you know, so he knew he could go to the Lakers, right,
this was all when he when he worked out with
his agent the buyout.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
But yeah, but Ben, it's it's not this deal, it's
the next one, right, Like, that's what's at stake here
is like the money in front of him. But this
is a young player, like he should if he forms
to his ability. I mean, this is what seven more
years in the NBA. Yeah, I mean that's really like
it's overall it's I mean, in seven more years in
(11:09):
the NBA takes them to thirty four too, right, Like,
I mean it could be longer than that, should he
want it. I mean there's I don't think it's an
overseteamer to say there are one hundreds of millions of
dollars at stake for this player. Now, that might not
be enough. It might not be enough. He like, he
might be a problem here and it might now work.
That's certainly in play. But if you're the Lakers and
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you're faced with that is the decision right where you
wanted to kind of still be flexible moving forwards, as
you know, chase bigger fish in the future, as you
move on from the Lebron James there into like firmly
into the Lukadaci area, like you hang on to your
draft assets that you might need in future transactions. You
don't sacrifice the ton of cav face or move on
(11:53):
a player that maybe you don't love to begin with
that just is a center and so you get them.
I just kind of think like, based on the circumstances,
they're about as good as they could have done.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah. Well, the concern though, Dan, you know, on my
show last night, we took calls from people and took
comments from people in Phoenix and in Portland, and nobody
was like, oh man, we really the Suns fans even
as you said they were in the finals, nobody's like,
oh man, we really let eight and get away. Man
that was And in Portland they didn't really mind he
left at all.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
So that's a man I can tell you, Ben, Yeah,
I mean I can tell you In Phoenix. I mean,
when when it was pretty clear that Usuf Nurkics wasn't
going to be the guy, They're like, I mean they
missed him. Now, Like if you re litigated that trade.
The guy that they probably really wish they had back
was Toumani Kamara, right, who was the second round pick
that was thrown in in that deal. He's become one
(12:41):
of the best point of attack defenders in the NBA. Again,
I don't disagree with you on any of the stuff, guys,
and I want to be totally clear to Laker fans,
this stuff is a story. It will be a story
throughout the season. It's gonna be something we monitor, just
like we monitor Luca Doncers' conditioning, just like we're gonna
monitor Lebron James's attitude, just like we're gonna monitor Austin Reeves.
(13:04):
Is like chance to like go from being you know,
turning down a chance to be a twenty two million
dollars in the quest of being a forty million dollar
play like we're gonna watch all this stuff. I just
think that in a world where the Lakers had limited
ways to get better at center, they really did. Okay,
they weren't getting Walker Cussler. That trade was not happening,
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you know, for for what the Lakers were gonna put
in play like they were not going to get I
don't know, like if it was Nick Claxton we're talking about.
I mean, I've written this fourth Like the Nick Claxton
thing was like this is a guy that like not
everybody was like, this is our future. You know. Clopez
is thirty seven years old and doesn't play the style
(13:47):
that Lukadacich wants to play. He's a very good player.
It's an awesome signing for the Clippers. But that's not
that that wasn't going to be an answer here. This
has an opportunity to be both the short term and
a long term answer. And if it's not the short
term answer, it doesn't screw up the question for the
long term.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
One, all right. And as an insurance policy, they still
pursue Horford because apparently looking at the Lakers and Warriors.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, Lakers, Warriors retirement, it seems like are the options
that are out there for Al Horford. I think he'd
be a tremendous, tremendous insurance policy. Beyond that, really really
smart player. First, the defender can space the floor. Again,
not not the Lucadacs lab threat, but good, good, smart player.
You can't have enough of them. Championship championship pedigree played
(14:31):
in huge games would be a great get. Golden State
can offer more money, Golden State can offer a starting spot.
I think I would handicap it as the Lakers being
a slight underdog. Yeah, well, Dan, what about or good
or actually maybe not even slight? Yeah, but but but yeah,
I mean, like Corford Isle just like perfect for how
they want to play. But look, I mean there's a chance,
(14:54):
there's there's a chance potentially just something pretty special in
Los Angeles if he's able to join that team.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
All right, So, Dan, we love rumors. Rumors are great.
There's a rumor going around the Heat and Lakers if
the Lakers want to get Andrew Wiggins they have to
give up Dalton connect Ruey and a first round pick.
That's what the Heat supposedly are seeking. Is it any
chance of that happens? No, I don't think so think
(15:22):
got too much zero, that's it not gonna happen. I
just yeah, I don't think like I like Andrew Wiggins.
I think that it would be a good contract in
some ways to have on the books, should the Lakers
be in a big time pursuit of somebody, you know,
as soon as next summer. But I mean I think
a good way. I saw somebody post to say, and
I think there's a good way of looking at it
(15:44):
when it comes to that first round pick, right, And
I know everybody wants Lakers to trade that pick to
get better, and I'm just this is I think what
you have to consider if you're gonna put it into play,
if you don't trade that pick, all right, if you
don't trade twenty thirty one next year on draft night
twenty twenty six Draft night, you can call any team
in the NBA and offer three first Okay, like they
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can offer.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
The twenty twenty six pick, they can offer the twenty
thirty one pick, they can offer the twenty thirty three
pick that elevates the type of guy you can start
looking to add, just like versus like trading one or
trading two. I think if you're using that pick now
to get better, you know, I'm not again not advocating
against it. I'm just just sharing I think where the
Lakers thinking is on this. I think they would use
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they would use it if they found themselves in the
position to get a long term player that they thought
fit with Luka Doncics and fit with what they were
trying to do going forward. I would just say, like,
I mean, like Andrew Wiggins is good number one pick
also is one of the titles, guys, do is you
know how much better than Ruey hot tomuraw where you're
trading your two best assets for it and Ruby hot Tomura.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I just think that's an l Yeah, I agree, I
Wiggins is all right, but I think he's he was
over over value.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
He's more of a wing than a forward, I guess,
which is like the logic behind it. But that's something
that's a lot to pay for, just sort of a
realignment on positions. Some the Lakers like, all.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right, Dan, well, thank you for coming on. Thank you
for this insight. Greatly appreciated.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Guys. I hope you're paying me by the word today.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Very word is a long segment. We gotta pay Dan
extra man. That is a full extended dance remix. Dan,
take a break there.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
You know what, Fred you called it a love letter,
and I just got to say, so the love when
I when I really I'm much more romantic than that.
That was a that was a like letter, Like.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
All right, it's a very all right see it Dan?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
No flowers.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So Kevin has done some homework. Ben okay, and we
talked about this last hour. If you're just joining us,
you know, Ben talked about the fact that he had
gone to a carnival aside show whatever you would like
to call it, a little circus, and played the games
and at one point did win by throwing a softball into.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
A wicker wooden basket. It was like a wooden basket.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, but there's an art form to it because you know,
there's a spring at the back. And then Ben pointed
out somebody on YouTube has created cheap videos to help
you want at the carnivals. And Kevin, you have found
one of those. Is that correct? Yes, yes, I will
say the answer to that is yes, yes, looking at
it right now.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
He's hard at work. He's studying the video.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Is what he's studying the video so he can explain
it to us like this's a bruder film. So when
we come back, we will find out the real way
to win at the carnivals. Okay, we've got that coming
up two o'clock. Net Colletti will join the show.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
All Right, Ben Maller today for Rodney and a Throwback Thursday,
as we get ready for the fourth of July. We
talked about this last hour very important information we're going
to impart upon you. If you go to a fair
side show and you want to compete in the little
games a carnival, they're rigged against you. But Ben pointed
out that there are cheat sheets that you can look
at on YouTube, and Kevin, you have found one of them.
(19:16):
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So this is for a game called the tub toss. Now,
if you've seen these giant red tubs, usually you might
see them if you go for a picnic or something
and you throw ice and drinks in it. But they
actually take these tubs and line them up and give
you balls. And the objective is to toss a certain
number of balls into these tubs that if you get
a certain amount, you'll want a prize. And the issue
that a lot of people find is they throw the
(19:37):
ball and they constantly bounce out, they never stay in,
so people believe that it's potentially rigged. There's no way
to win. So I did find this one gentleman on
YouTube who what kind of walks you through exactly what
the strategy is to be able to win this game
in particular, So let's take a listen to it.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
The tricks to be able to win this carnival game
tub toss. So you don't want to throw it too
hard because if you do, it ll bounce out. And
you don't want to throw it too soft because it
won't go in. You basically want to aim for the lift.
Generally throw it out a little backsmen, and trust me,
when you get the hang of this game, you'll win
every time. Let me know how you do give it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So basically you toss it towards the lip of the
tub and you want it to kind of roll over.
So you don't want to toss it directly in. You
don't want to short arm it, it'll bounce off. You
just basically want to aim for the lip.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It's like the the wrist movement. Correct prop the risk
english on it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yes, backspin, that's exactly thanks exactly why Ben he wants
you to put some backspin on it.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It's a pitcher, right, correct, there you go, that's right,
so we have that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
That was very good. That was a good pull. Kevin.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Well, you know the basketball one too. They have the
rims are not regulation rims right there, higher than regulation
rims and the basketball things they have there and they
I remember one of the videos I watched he talked
about Dad and the the the you can't use the backboard.
The rim is oval, but it's higher than regulation and
so you essentially have to swish it. You can't use
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the backboard or the rim, it'll fall off.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
The basket rims. It's not as large as a regular rim.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, I think that's yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Well, for like like in the NBA, you can fit
two basketballs inside of the rim. I don't think you
can fit two of these little even like their miniature
games or whatever. I don't think that's the exact dimensions
of the rim. They make it a lot more difficult
for you to be able to make it. You essentially
have to shoot a perfect shot to.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Get The rim is thicker, correct if you look at
it right.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, it's designed to the ball if it'll.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Fall off, so bounce off as opposed to roll over
the lip.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah. You know I look when I used to go
to the Carnival and I mentioned it earlier, or the fair.
Growing up you would see Jojo the dog Face girl
and see low.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I feel like that's not a thing anymore. By the way,
what they used to call them freak shows for Editford,
to be honest, that's that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no not. They
weren't called freak shows when I went. They had carnival
games and stuff. They had carnival games and then they
would have these well I guess maybe it was a
freak show. Now, wait, what do you think I'm talking
about here?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Like, did this person who has this some sort of
malady that they just don't what do you mean it's
not it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
A freak of course it was, but they didn't call it.
That is what I'm saying, Kevin. No, I discussed that
I went all these years. I didn't realize what I
had done. I just thought I was going on like
a Saturday. Now, that was very troubling.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
If you want to see the freak show, you go
to the Fremont Street Experience there in Vegas. You'll see
all that right there is walk down the street there
at night, you'll see all the people used to be
at the Freak Show walking down the street there.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
That's a tough way I gotta tell you, that's a
tough way to make a living. Little bit little bit, Yeah,
you think about it. Yeah, is the dark people deserve
to work too. I mean, look, it was a woman,
but she had a full beard, and that's why they
called her that Jojo the dog faced woman. She had
(22:55):
a full beard. It's not like she had a tail
or anything. She didn't look like a dog protruding snout
or something. Well, were you a kid when.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
You saw this? Is this something you still remember as
like a child watching or were you already grown up
when you saw this?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I was about twelve, That's a that's a perfect age.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Twelve you were you know, you're young still, but you're
you're old enough to kind of know what's going on. So,
and that was the Freak Show act that really stood out.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, the other one was se low And who was
ce Loos? Was not Selo Green?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So who was he was not Selo Green? And it's interesting,
it's kind of interesting to describe se loo Uh. First
of all, for the purposes of a sports audience who
remembers the great Chicago White Sox player Walter no Neck Williams.
Do you remember Walter no neck Williams. Okay, Walter no
(23:44):
neck Williams looked like a guy who had no neck.
He was a baseball player, so it looked like his
head was attached directly to his shoulders. No, he had
a little neck, but that's they called him no neck,
all right, So se Low his head was like that.
But it was really weird because he really didn't have
(24:07):
long arms. Okay, so now you can see it, and
now he actually didn't have long legs. So his feet
were kind of attached to his knees, and his hands
were attached to his elbows. And he'd walk around with
a cigar and he'd say, I want to hug all
the little girls here. They didn't say little girls. I
(24:28):
want to hug all the girls. Yeah, that was se
Love and I remember that to this day.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
It sounds like it'd be pretty hard to forget Fred.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
So that's that's next level for it. You know, you
have the human cannonball, you get the fire breathing, but
you're going next level with that though. That's that's a
higher level.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah. Well listen, and now I mean talking about it
and working it out. You can see how you're affected
as a child by things you see. Oh for sure,
I didn't even realize it. Now I know I've been scarred. Yeah,
after this many years, it stays with me. Ben, I
am scarred.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Fred. I hear you, I hear you. They don't do
that anymore though, as Kevin said, right, they like. I've
been to the La County Fair, the Orange County Fair
in recent years. I don't remember seeing anything close. They
didn't even have the human cannonball anymore, or the person
eating glass. I don't think they do that anymore. All
the old side shows they used to have back in
the day. I think they've gotten rid of almost all
of the.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Old flame and sore down the throat thing. Is that
still a thing? Stuff like that?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You know, we do have. I just saw a human
cannonball you did wear okay out here out here it
was like at the I don't know what it was
at It was like the India show Grounds or something.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Is that right? Oh good? I thought they got rid
of that.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
A guy who was the human cannonball. And the problem
is they didn't factor in the wind on that day.
Oh yeah, didn't end well for him. He hit the net,
but he bounced and he got pretty banged up. He's okay,
he's all right, but he went down. It wasn't good.
(26:05):
But you know the greatest human canniball. Do you remember
this that Captain Dynamite. Remember Captain Dynamite?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
No, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't think. I probably do, but I don't if
you if I saw it, i'd probably remember it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
We we We showed it on the Hall of Shame
one hundred years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Captain Dynamite, Well, I probably saw it there for it
when I was watching it on TV back.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Okay, so he showed it and the great Captain and
Colin Cowhard was actually doing local television sports. So Captain
Dynamite blasts out of a cannon, he hits the net.
Colin Cowhard runs up to him and says, hey, can
you hear? And Captain Dynamite says, I'd love a beer.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
He couldn't hear, So yeah, him and Cannonball still exists.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Now, is there? I know back in the day, I
remember Evil Knievo was huge for years. Is there anyone
doing those kind of snuts now?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Right?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
There's nobody doing am I missing somebody on somebody on
YouTube or something that's ben.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
There was a guy out here three weeks ago that
just jumped over thirty BMW's on a motorcycle.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, that is Evil Canevel did the motorcycle jump back
in then, you know, over the casino in Vegas or whatever.
The Daredevil human.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Daredevil, right, and then his son was Rodney can.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, yeah, the Medievil family.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Sure, all right, Well that'll complete our segment on daredevil's
and side shows and freight shows.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Who do you have in the hot dog? Who do
you have in the hot dog contest tomorrow? Fred at
the fourth?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Don't you gotta go? Joey Chess not you got it.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
He's chalk Man, He's he's the Og, He's the Babe Ruth,
He's the Tom Brady, He's the greatest of all Time's
the Jordan of hot dogs. Gotta go with it.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
It's like seventy six hot dogs, right, I think that's
the record, and he's got ten minutes to break it.
And he sat out last year a contoy.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
He didn't sit out. There was a dispar because he
he endorsed a vegan dog and you're not. It was
a it was a non meat dog and then he
got kicked out last year his band Big Scandal. By
the way.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So his record, by the way is eighty three hot
dogs in ten minutes. He's getting older those three hot
dogs in tutes. And by the way, there is an
over under seventy one and a half for tomorrow. Anybody
wants action on that, I have his number.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I have his number for it. If you want to
call him. I've had him on my podcast before. He's
not the most social guy.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Call him. I'll get with you a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I'll give Kevin the number. Normally he doesn't do interviews
right before the event, but I'll give Kevin his number
and then you can call him up and then he'll say,
who are.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You coase I'll get yelled at.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Great.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, as long as you just don't say you got
it from me, all right, don't say you got it
from me.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Doesn't he have to eat it with the bun? Isn't
that right? You got to see you do have to
the buns?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Do count?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Dog and bun? Yeah dog? And fine? And you can't
you have to wait? Don't they wait a few minutes
after to make sure you don't have a reversal of fortune.
I believe that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Ben, You're right, yeah, because if you do, I think
that eliminates you.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
So you got to keep it down there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I've always been curious how he does that. Yeah, maybe
Kevin can call him and get yelled at. That'd be good.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So I know he trains like year round. He holds
like multiple different records, not just hot dogs, all sorts
of different things.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
No, he told me he moved. He's from northern California.
He told me he moved to Indianapolis because it's more central,
because most of the eating events are on the East
coast or in the Midwest. So he lives literally moved
his entire life to Indianapolis school he'd be closer to
travel to the different events that he eats at. He
makes it he's making a lot of money doing that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, what does he make?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Well, I don't know. I'm sure the internet will tell
you what he makes, but I think it's hundreds of thousands.
If not, you know, I think the peak he probably
made it over a million or close to it, just
eating random foods like he'll he'll make deals with like
raising canes and eat nothing but chicken fingers, you know,
set a record for that. He's got like a million
different records. I'll send a number.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Earlier this year, apparently he won the Ultimate Balogoney Showdown
where he ate fifteen pounds twelve ounces of blooney slices
in eight minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Fifteen pounds of baloney. Now that's him eating good eating,
good eating right there? You know what, that's a That's
why Joey Chestnut is who he is.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
The real video, though, Fred is what happens the day
after and the you know, the night the night after.
That's where the real drama happens with Joey Chesny. That's
where he earns his money. Well, what has got it?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I can imagine when nature takes his course there from
you and you're you're on the throne, and all that
has to exit one way or another.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
See similar to a lot of people who didn't want
to see the Muncie replay from last night, I have
no desire to see that, Ben, I'll pass.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
No.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
That's where you earn your money, though. Imagine the ravage
that your body takes when you consume eighty plus hot
dogs in ten minutes. God, here is.
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talk about that next.
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Speaker 1 (31:28):
All right, Dustin Man the Mountain Tonight for the Dodgers
as they try to wrap things up in a positive
way with a white Sox. When you look at Mookie
Betts at this point in the year, Ben, Yeah, there
just seems to be in my mind kind of a
perception he cannot wait to get back to the bench
quick enough. I mean, first pitch, baan swing, second pitch swing.
(31:51):
They're not falling form. I mean, I've never seen a
guy he is up there and he is not gonna
waste any pitches. He is just swinging away and they're
not falling form. But it makes you think, you know,
is he focusing And I'm not sure I even believe this,
but some are suggesting it is he focusing too much
on defense. And if that's the case, it's affecting his hitting.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Well, I don't know what it is, but it's not
Whatever it is, they got to figure it out. I mean,
we're already coming up on the fourth of July here
and you start looking down the line and if Munthsy's
going to be out, we don't know yet. Have we
heard any word yet. I'm trying to find something on Months.
We haven't heard anyth yet.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I can't yet.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
We haven't seen it yet on Munsi. So if Months
he's out, it seems like he's hat a while. And
so you're you take Mookie Bets, who's he's not playing
like the usual Mookie Bets. This is not the MVP
All Star version of Mookie Bets. Obviously. Uh, they got
to figure something out, and it's worth to me it's
worth a shot if if you can get Mookie's back back.
I know, Dave Roberts keeps saying it's not because he's
(32:47):
playing shortstop and all that, but if you remember last year,
they moved him back to the outfield last year because
he was having some issues, got hurt, whatever, they put
him back in the outfield, it's worth a shot to
put him back in the outfield to see if he
start hitting, because they you know, two forty six batting
batting averages an old stat and all that, but he's
just not very productive in any in any way. And
(33:08):
it's been it's been how many months has it been
now word into July. So they got to figure something
out because you know, whether this is a hangover from
the illness that he had to begin the year, I mean,
is it is it lingering? There's something going on there,
and they got to figure it out because they're not
getting the you know, two hundred three hundred million dollar
level Mookie bets. They're getting a replacement level Mookie bets.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah. And here's the thing I just can't believe. And
there are people that know far more than I do. Yeah,
but he's concentrating so much on his defense now that
it's affecting his hitting. I don't buy that. I just
don't buy that. I would err on the side of,
you know, after he lost all that weight early in
(33:52):
the year, it's a lot harder to come back than
you think. I would suggest that, or the other option
would be he's just slumping right now.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, Well, if you look the last I go back
forty last forty one games, Mookie Bets is batting two
twenty two or the last forty one games, and he's
got three home runs in that time over forty one games.
I mean, this is a guy, it's a central figure
obviously in your life. Everyone knows that watches the Dodgers,
and I think it's worth a shot. I would say,
(34:24):
if he doesn't start hitting, and it's not some kind
of you know, creeping crud that he's got that they're
not telling us about, that's kind of hanging around and
all that, then I would I would move things around.
I mean, the Dodgers are gonna have to make some
moves here. If Munsey's out, They're gonna have to to
make either they make a trade or they they change
some guys around in the in the field. They're gonna
have to do it now. They didn't make a roster
(34:45):
move a guy that used to lead let baseball and
steels a couple years ago for the A's. They called
this guy up Ruiz, right esther Ruiz. They called him
absolutely so he'll be there. But he's an outfielder. He's
not an infielder, as far as.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I know, you know a guy to look at, and
I maybe they have, maybe they don't care. Ryan McMann
of Colorado a third baseman. That guy can hit. I
think he'd he'd do well at Dodgers seeing him.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I worry about guys with the Rockies though, because they
because of playing at cours Field. You know, what are
his numbers on the road, because those guys usually are
much better in Colorado right than they are on the road.
And is that you take a guy like that? Now?
There have been exceptions that have left the Rockies have
done well, but most of those guys are a shadow
of what they were with the Rockies.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
No, I know, I know, I think he gets all
right on the road, though I do. That'd be a
guy I would just keep an eye on. I just
think about that guy if I were to Dodgers and
they know far more than I do.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So I'm looking at his career home and away. So
at home batting average two sixty four, on the road
two sixteen. He has an OPS which is a big
number nowadays, very very steep decline eight eighteen at home,
six sixty four on the road. So his production is
that he gives most of his production at home than
he does on the road. Eighty five home runs career
(35:59):
at home, fifty one on the road.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
So my point is if the Dodgers were to sign them,
they would then play their home games in Denver.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, right, they can trade stadiums. They'll just uh, they'll
they'll pick up the stadium, move it to Colorado, and
then they'll pick up course field and then move that
over here.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
And no, no, what they're gonna with the Duke Kevin
is they'll they'll actually raise Dodgers Stadium up to a
mile up to pick it up only when they're hitting.
Only when they're hitting. They'll pick the ballpark up because
they can do that. They have no listen, they have
enough money. They play floating floating stadium.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, talk about home field advantage, man. When the Dodgers
are up the stadium goes up in the sky.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
They're playing with the gems, all right.
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