8/14 H1: Angels sweep Dodgers and now San Diego leads NL West; Rams 2nd most valuable NFL franchise?

The Angels completed the sweep of the Dodgers who now are in 2nd place in the NL West behind the Padres who will have all of the momentum heading into this weekend's series at Dodger Stadium. The Cowboys are the most valuable franchise in the NFL and the Rams are 2nd in line.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, here we go three hours today, Fred Rogan
Rodney Pete on a five seventy LA Sports. Well, now
they're not even in first place. Now they're they're a
game back, and they've got the Padres just where they
want them. Padres will come in over confident the Dodgers
have got them, Rodney right where they want them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(00:26):
you believe that, no saying it? No, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
This is rubber meet the road, nut cutting, you know,
bone chilling, whatever you want to call time for the Dodgers.
This is this is where they separate the men from

(00:47):
the boys, Fred, This is uh, this is one of
the weekend tournaments that is going to uh shape a
lot of things going forward. So it'll be interesting to
see how the Dodgers come out and play after this
four game losing street getting swept by the Angels, which
should have never happened, but they did. How do they

(01:09):
recover from this? They get a day off today and
then they started up and you know, you know, I
said the other day it might be a good thing
that they're playing at home. Now I rethink that I'm
not so sure. I'm not so sure because well, the
Dodger fans. They don't necessarily turn on you, like say

(01:30):
Philadelphia would turn on their home team. But there's grumblings
in Dodger Stadium with things don't go well. You can
feel it. And on top of that, I think with
the Dodgers reeling and struggling and not and playing with
such lack of confidence right now, that it's like sharks
for the Padre's blood in the water. They smell it

(01:51):
and they can't wait to get here and really beat
up on the Dodgers in their home stadium. I think
it's an extra motivation for the Padres to come here
at this time and go, we got them where we
want them, and we're playing them in their stadium, and
now we're gonna embarrass them in Dodger Stadium. That is

(02:11):
their mentality I think coming in. So I'm not so
sure it's a good playing at home. I know it'd
be tough. It's gonna be tough when they had to
go down there to San Diego play because they're gonna
be the crowd's gonna be crazy. But does it give
the Padres a little extra knowing that they got a
chance to really put a foot on the Dodger's neck
by coming in and doing it in Dodger Stadium? Does

(02:34):
it give them a little extra? Probably? Do they need
a little extra at this point? No, they don't. I mean,
I think you nailed it. This is it, this is armageddon.
What's gonna happen? Who are the Dodgers? Now, you can
make this argument, let's say they get swept. Oh god,
but let's say they got swept. You're just focusing on

(02:55):
the playoffs. The argument, well, two, it's the best of
the three instead of a bet. You just got to
get to the playoffs. So that's number one. You've got
to get there. And it really comes down to one.
Are things going to change? When are they going to
play differently? When are they going to play like the Dodgers?
Last night, they're up five to two. By the way,

(03:16):
what time did you go swimming last night? Oh? Man?
I actually I didn't go swimming last night because I
thought I thought it was going to be okay, and
but I didn't. Actually, I take that back. I was
there was a nervousness in my studying stomach the whole game.

(03:37):
And when it got to five to four and you're
only one run up, and I kept saying in the
later innings, we just we need we need another run,
We need another run for a little cushion. And it
stayed five four, five four, five four, and you just felt,
you just felt at some point the wheels are going
to come off and the Angels are going to come
up with a big hit or big or whatever and

(04:00):
and make the plays. And they said it last night,
fed when it's going bad, it's going bad, you know,
the night before Otani hits a bullet up the middle
for triple play where the Dodgers are threatening. Dodgers are
threatening again a couple times in that game. I think
tail struck out with the bases loaded one time, and
some other guys did. But they get a Tailor made

(04:20):
double play later in the eighth, I believe was to
seal it. Get out of that inning, still being up
five to four. It carms off Enrique's glove and it
turns into a base hit instead of going to Mickey
Row for an easy double play to get out of
that inning. That's how it's going for the Dodgers. They
were up five to two. Yeah, honest to god, I

(04:44):
thought they'll figure out a way of losers. Now think
about that think about the mentality of that they're up
five to two. In the past, they're up five to two,
might be time for you to go swimming because they
got this one. Yeah, they were up five to two
and I was sitting there thinking, know what is going
to happen now? If I feel that way watching and

(05:07):
I don't know how many fans are feeling that way
now that and I said it the other day, No
lead is safe. None. You could be up by one
hundred runs now and it's not safe because something could happen.
But if I think that watching it, and I'm sure
there are a number of people that felt the same way,
how do they feel The Dodgers are playing not to lose.

(05:29):
They're playing not to lose at that point. Not well,
we'll just blow them out, finish them off right now.
If I'm thinking, oh god, I don't know if they
can hold on, that might tell you the club is
playing not to lose. And that's distinctly different than going
out and trying to win. Am I right? Yeah, you
don't think that in the moment, But I tell you

(05:50):
what you do think? You do think that in the
course of innings and during the game of things. You
let get away, should have capitalized on and you didn't.
That's what you kind of think about, and that sometimes
will Linger like, for instance, they get three runs off
Hendrix in the first inning, I think they should have.

(06:11):
They allowed him to pitch four innings. I believe three
and a half three plus. They were beating him up
and they allowed him off the hook. They should have
punished him for about five six runs. Fred, given that
Dodger line up and the way it started with the
triple and then Mookie scored and then will Smith hits
the home run, I'm like, you gotta you gotta put

(06:31):
him away. And in the past Dodgers would have scored
seven runs in the first two innings off of him,
and yet they let him hang in there, get out
of situations, swang at bad pitches, and he held them
at bay and kept it at three nothing, and then
they bring in their relievers and Dodgers couldn't get a
hit since the third inning. I mean, it was it

(06:51):
was one of those crazy games that you look up
like it's been lately. It's not enough, it's not enough,
and missed opportunities. It's gonna come back to haunt them.
And certainly it does Bassis, lotus runners was scoring and scoring, position,
bad defensive plays, you know, you just and they did
it all Fred without and this whole series getting swept.

(07:12):
They did it all without Mike Trout doing anything basically anyway,
he was over three or three strikeouts yesterday. I don't
think he got it. I don't think he did anything
the other other two days either, And so it was
everybody else but Mike Trout. Just imagine Mike Trout was
on because he came up in some big situations too.

(07:34):
Ohtani got him a couple of times, and then he
didn't do anything other than that. But man, it was
the others. The others were playing out of their mind though.
I mean, Taylor Ward is a good player, he really is.
He is a really good player. And he took O'donnie Deep.
He's got twenty nine I think home runs this year.
He is, He's had a fantastic year. But some of

(07:54):
the other guys are just like Netto. Netto, just where
was he Nettles an All Star now? I mean he
is a household name. He's killing it. So they they
came to play, and like we had some calls on yesterday,
it was their World Series. It was their moment and

(08:14):
they showed out. They knew the they knew the world
was watching, and they came to play and they played
like it. They played like it was a playoff game
for them. On the topic about Tony, he was okay,
that was not his best outing. He pitched longer than
he has yah and he left ahead, So those are
good things. He was all right, like he was a

(08:37):
good major league pitcher. Felt like he was laboring a
little bit, you know, not as great a command. I
mean in certain guys he did, but took a lot
of took a lot of guys at three three balls
and and just missed some spots. I thought. I thought
he was laboring a little bit and didn't have He
wasn't as sharp as we've seen him in the past. Right,

(09:00):
do you think the Dodgers have a lack of focus?
I think Will Smith last night became confused at some point.
Do they seem just a little off to you? He
came confused? Which par are you talking about? He didn't
know we got walked. Well, yeah, sometimes you know, let's
face it, Steevie Buckner. He's the second coming of Angel Hernandez.

(09:25):
The cat behind the plate. I was never a proponent bread,
but I was such a proponent of the automatic strike
zone last night that was might that might have been
the worst balls and strikes calls that I've seen in
a long time. He was awful. And I don't mean
just for the dog. He was awful on both sides,

(09:48):
both sides. I mean some of the balls he was
he struck out Otani on and then the couple he
gave to old TONI was like, balls are not even
close to being in the box. And he was so
off and so awful. So I don't blame will Smith
not knowing he walked. You never know with him, he

(10:09):
didn't know it was calling it a ball or a
strike or what it was. He was terrible for it, Yeah,
he was. He really had a bad night. I read
online people were saying he is the second coming of
Angel Hernandez. He was all over the place and see
and that. Not to belabor this, but that's why you
have to have the automated strike zone right there, that's
the reason. Well, not everybody's that bad. It doesn't matter

(10:31):
one guy is. It affects the whole game. Somebody has
an off night, it affects the whole game. And you
can't really pin what happened to the Dodgers on CB,
but I'll tell you what. He did not have a
great evening. He looked pretty bad. I think we'll have
to start if the Dodgers had him behind the plate
again the old Angel Hernanda's Drinking game. Remember that the

(10:54):
Angel Hernanda's Drink Game. People were drunk. Two batters into
the game, take a shot every time, and a bad
call behind the plane. I think somebody I was a
drunk the second batter of the game. That's how bad
he was. And now CB certainly filled that void as well.
And then if that's not enough, If that's not enough,

(11:18):
what up to Max Munsey? Oh yeah, he got scratched
right before the game. I guess he had some soreness
as he was taking batting practice or warming up and
got scratched. That's a that was a big blow. That
was definitely a big blow not being in that game.
So I just you asked if they're there, they're not focused.

(11:39):
I don't think it's a lack of focus. I think
they're in a funk. I think they're in a funk
of Maybe it's a confidence funk and you go up
and down during the course of a season with confidence.
So maybe they're in that, But they don't think they're
not focused, because I do believe that they are aware
of their situation and how much they're struggling right now,

(12:02):
and to a certain extent, maybe they're trying too hard
instead of letting it go and letting it play and
believing that they are the best team out there with
the best players. But when you're losing and things are
going bad for you, it starts to happen in waves,
and the way it's going for the Dodgers right now,
it is, it's happening in bunches, and they got to
get it turned around immediately. And sometimes, Fred only you know,

(12:25):
a win will do that against a good team. So
a win against the Padres, say they beat the Padres
tomorrow night, after everybody feels the momentums. The other way,
the Padres have got all the momentum and the Dodgers
are reeling. If the Dodgers beat the Padres tomorrow night,
it could change the trajectory of everything. So one hundred percent. Yeah,
so we'll see no, one hundred percent and it's this

(12:49):
day off is a good thing. Yes, If I'm the Dodgers,
I'm not thinking and the players Dave Roberts will, Andrew
Friedman will, but the players, I'm not thinking about one thing.
It's like the off season for me. He probably I would. Yeah.
If I'm Dave, I'm I don't know if he did
this or not. Unless you're hurt, get away from it all.
Don't even come in. Don't even hit, don't even take

(13:10):
batting practice, don't even work out. Just stay home with
your families. Yeah, don't don't. You're not even playing baseball
anymore on this day. Just do something entirely different, Do
not think about anything. Just try to get yourself back,
get yourself right, so when you come in tomorrow you
have a little pep in your step, You've got some energy,
and you're ready to go. You know what you're up against,

(13:34):
you know they Unfortunately you are what your record says
you are. And David Vassay said last night, and I'm
trying to remember if it's since the All Star break
or not. July third, Vassay said, July third, the Dodgers
and the Colorado Rockies have the identical record. Yikes, everybody

(13:59):
hold on. It's just that statement alone. The Dodgers and
the Colorado Rockies have the same record since July third.
There's nothing else you need to say, Well, what happened?
Will that happened? Think about that they have played like
the Rockies since that date. Everybody needs to take a breath,

(14:25):
take a deep breath, and settle down and get back
to where you are. I'm hoping tomorrow I'm going for
this series. Do we know who's going who's going for
them pitching wise? And they'll probably Glass Now and Snell
and be ready to go again, right, Yeah, you know
the rotation? Do we have that? We're gonna get it

(14:47):
right now. I'll tell you that Kevin's looking forward to Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
So I know for a fact that Kershaw is going tomorrow.
I don't know if we know who else is pitching
after that, but Kershaw is going for the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Tomorrow for sure. Okay, would assume you know glass Now
should be up right to go, and well here you go.
I got it, Rodney, I got it. So uh, Michael
King and Kershaw go tomorrow Saturday the Great Dylan Cease
and Blake Snell Okay, and then Sunday's going to be

(15:26):
the great don't cease right, Uh oh you Darvish and
Glass now okay, Well the Dodgers got the guy's pitch
and they want to pitch. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Darfish has kind of owned him ever since he went
to San Diego.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
So Darvish has been stopped.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Us. Do you want to pull up his numbers against
the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Against darbisht He has owned the Dodgers since he went
down there. But I think the same and grace is
that Glass now pitched well his last outing. I think
he's back to so I think he's a good guy
to have on the mound. Competing against him on Sunday.
My one is Blake Snell against Dylan Ceas. Dodgers got
to give get after cease and and Blake Snell's got

(16:07):
to do what he did to the to the Toronto
Blue Jays. Dodgers will beat Dolan ceas the great Dylan Ceas,
they'll beat him. And you want to know what U
Darvis's record I believe on the road is this year
one of those era on the road this year? Don't care,
don't really care?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Do you know if the Angels record overall this year
is what it is? The Dodgers but the idea that
I'm because I'm too realistic.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
That's right. You're not in this now. Sorry, yeah, don't don't.
Don't confuse the story with facts. That doesn't work for anybody.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
The idea that the Dodgers beat up bad pitching has
not been the case recently.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Just saying, well, I think now after seeing the Angels,
they've got say young winners on that staff.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, they played the Dodgers every night they do. See
what you just said earlier, Fred, By the way, is like,
no matter if the Dodgers are up by five, down
by five, I think they're gonna lose. Welcome to being
an Angel fan over the last ten years. They're up
one hundreds to nothing in the second, they'll find some
way to lose that game.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah. Yeah, well, anyway, you Darvish on the road this
year is yeah, seven point three six. The road is
not Well, that's outside California, Fred, Oh, is that what
that means? Yeah, that's what that means. Oh, I've just
met outside of San Diego. He's only Yeah, he's only
you know, he's only an hour and a half, two
hours up the road, so he's still at home basically,
So I'm gonna tell you this right now. Dodgers are
gonna take at least two of three. I'll tell you

(17:25):
that right now. Okay, you can write that down. I'm
going to Vegas this weekend. Tell me which two they're
gonna take for sure? Yes, uh, Saturday, Sunday, Okay, Saturday,
and I want I want him to get the first
one too, deliver a message, a message that must be delivered.
But they'll take two or three. I feel good. Well,

(17:47):
maybe they'll take one and two and not three. Do
you think you think part of any of the Dodgers
were looking ahead to this series with San Diego as
they were playing the Angels. Fair question, My answer, No,
I don't think so. All I mean, right now, their
hair is on fire. As my old boss used to say, Hey,
I got a problem, and I'll address that. But first

(18:08):
my hair is on fire and I have to put
it out. Then we'll get to that. Their hair is
on fire. They got to put out the fire before
they can worry about anything else. You know, they're on
the Titanic. It's going down. You don't sit there and think,
my god, next year I'll be in a beautiful tropical island. No,
you got to get off the boat, then you'll worry
about it. So right now, all they need to worry

(18:29):
about is just getting themselves right. No matter who the
opponent is, it just happens to be the Podreys. And
maybe that's a good thing, all right, if you're gonna
turn it around, turn it around against these guy. There
is a certain mentality that's an involuntary response when you
play teams that you think are not that good, that
your body does and your mind does and plays tricks

(18:49):
on you. Playing the Angels, Oh yeah, we'll get two
out of three from them. We'll beat them. We'll beat them.
Get ready for the Podres. But there's gonna be no
hesitation or no doubt out whether or not the Dodgers
are ready to play the Podres. It's just a matter
of can they put it together.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
By the way, since you did ask Fred So in
his career versus the Dodgers, you darvish five and five
record and fifteen starts, two point two seven r.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
A lot of those under and runs should have been
charged to him. I think it's there. He's higher against
the Dodgers. I see.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
So Baseball Reference is wrong. Apparently they got there. Something's
wrong they gotta forgot to carry the two somewhere? Is
that what you're saying, That's.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
What I'm saying. Gotcha right, They're gonna get you Darvish,
that one I know they'll do. They'll get you Darvish,
and they'll get Dylan Sees. Dylan Sees is a Christmas
Why because we're gonna light him up like a tree.
They're gonna get Dylan See, he's got what you got
against Dylan Sees. I got nothing against Dylan Sees. I

(19:48):
don't know what I have against Dylan Sea. Think you've
had it out for him the last couple of years.
It's personal, and I don't think I should say it.
I mean, if you forced me too, I will, and
maybe you'll consider it stupid.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
He cost you your fantasy team a championship last year.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
What's the what's the basketball player that that he had
it out for to the one and always that the
Lakers were always going to trade for it, but they
never did.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Buddy Healed, Buddy Heal, Let's get him every year.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Buddy Heal was the guy. And what's the other? The
baseball Willia Damas.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Is?

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Can we get William? Oh my god, not Willie and
Damas is he available? Little Sue guy didn't matter. They
popped up. Oh gosh, everybody stopped moving because Buddy healed
and Willia and Domas are available. We got to get
those guys. And the thing about Dylan Cees, it was
three years ago he killed my fantasy team. I watched

(20:41):
him pitch every game. I knew that was it. I
said it was stupid, But you do good research like that.
When you really watch people, you commit to watching them,
then you can make an informed and educated decision. You
screw you, screw the fread Socks. You're out.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
The team is called the fred Socks.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Please tell me, Please tell me your team is not
called the fred Sock. That's right. You pitch poorly for
the fred Socks and you're done. Oh wait, part part
of me thinks, oh, that's pretty cool. Part of me,
that's a.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Pretty cool name, and then the other part of me
is like.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh my god, that's so ridiculous red Socks. Well back
then that year I was a fred Socks. This year
I'm pit Pip Cheerio. What wait there? Dare we ask Kevin? Oh?
Who do you think I have? My team? Who was
my first my second pick? Dylan Sees, No, it was not,

(21:49):
Dylan Sees. My second pick was Cheerio of uh Milwaukee,
and now he's round. So you name the team Cheerio. Yeah,
Pip like you're in London, That's what I named him
this year. We're doing good right now, we're doing good,
but that injury is hurting us. And my pitching, thanks

(22:10):
for asking, is going to complete crap, complete crap. I
don't know why, but pitching is very inconsistent. I'm just saying,
if you want to buy a major league team, consider
that a real team. Speaking of that, do you think
they that the market kind of like what the NFL

(22:30):
did The cycle of NFL and running backs went down, right,
Remember they stopped paying running backs for years when they
were all getting paid the year days of EMITTT. Smith,
Barry Sanders. They were valued and they were getting they
were one of the highest pays next to quarterbacks. Then
they dipped because the entry factor. Now that now the
running backs are back, do you think it's the same

(22:51):
thing now with pitchers and Make League Baseball where teams
are reluctant to pay big money and long term deals
to pitchers anymore. See, I think that's a great question.
And here's what I would do. I wouldn't do it. Yeah,
I simply wouldn't do it. It is It is a crap shoot. Yeah,

(23:13):
Jacob de Gram has made a lot of money not pitching. Yeah,
now when he pitches, he's still really good. And this
year he's been okay because they hasn't really been hurt yet.
Maybe he won't get hurt. You hope he doesn't. But
how much money is that guy made not pitching? Yeah,
a lot. And the thing is you still want them? Yeah,

(23:35):
I'll take them. Okay, Well that's going to be a
five year deal for two hundred million dollars. It's like, what, Well,
that's what it costs. How do you like that? Yeah?
You certainly can't do more than a four year deal, right, Yeah,
I would say so, yeah, four years if I mean,
I think when you start going five there's questions there.
So it's very difficult. But I don't think you see

(23:56):
anymore like those kind of deals like Duran, those ten
year deals that they do to give to pictures anymore.
Didn't Garrett Cole get an eight year deal from the Yankees?
Wasn't that one of the reasons he signed there instead
of the Dodgers, I believe, so they gave me the
extra year the Yankee fan. It was all things being even.
He was going to Yankees anyway, but I don't know what.
I don't know how many years, but I know it

(24:17):
was a longer term deal in which he wanted.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
So it was nine years three twenty four, nine years,
nine years, three twenty four.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Now that's a lot. See and and of that nine years,
how much has he even hurt? Because he has been hurt.
So now he's hurt now, isn't he? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Out for the year?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, yeah, okay, And that's not the first time, right, Kevin,
he's been hurt before.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Uh, let me see. So looking back to his just
his tenure with the Yankees. He signed there in twenty twenty.
I'll just go off to the amount of starts he made.
So twenty twenty was COVID, so twelve starts that was
probably about right, but thirty thirty three, thirty three then
last year he only made seventeen. For the most part,
he's been fined. But as a g it's older. That's
not gonna get better.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Obviously, did what did Max Fried sign up there? How
many years did he sign I thought he got six six.
That's what I thought, too Yeah, and that's too too many.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Freed got eight for two eighteen.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
He had eight eight. Okay, that's a bad deal. Good
for him, a great deal for him, But that's a
bad deal because he becomes Max Freed. He's another guy.
And I know you love him. You know him from
Harvard Westlake and then seeing a little league and stuff.
I know he's an Max Freed. Oh God, let's grab him.

(25:38):
If you really look at what Max Freed has done,
is he a solid pitcher? Yes, I don't think he's
the end all be all stopper, but he's a solid pitcher,
no denying it. Would you consider I consider him top
five in elite. I don't know about that, but he's well.
When they signed him, I would say that I think
they signed him because it was Max Freed. Yeah, hes

(26:01):
gonna have. He was ace of of Atlanta. He had
years in Atlanta where dominant Fred. I don't know what
you're talking.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
He was ace of a World Series team, like I exactly. Yeah,
he's one of the best pitchers in baseball. Is he
all time? Probably not? But right now temporary.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Rodney, the Dodgers could have signed him, and you wanted
him to sign Blake Snell. I like Blake Snell. I
know you do him? Yeah, Okay, So Blake Snell is
better than Max Freed. No, not necessarily. I thought Blake
Stell is a better fit for the Dodgers. How would
a pitcher be a better fit because his uniform better?

(26:38):
The attitude fits, oh attitude, Max is, Max is a
good kid, good guy, nice kid. Blake's Blake's a nasty
killer attitude. Dodgers got a lot of nice guys on
the team, a lot of nice guys. They need more
of the Joe Kelly types, the guys with the get

(27:00):
off my lawn kind of you know, get to get
the hell out of my box and get off the
plate and sit your ass down after I strike you
out kind of guys. And Blake snails that guy. All right?
What LA team is worth ten billion dollars? Let's talk

(27:20):
about it.

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Wip uh huh uh huh, gotta let it flow. Yes,
George Clinton, Funker Dellic Parliament Fame, Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan
on Throwback Thursday. Come on, fore it all right? This
is interesting right now, right now, the Rams are the

(28:06):
second most valuable franchise sports wise in American sports Dallas
Cowboys Dallas Cowboys are number one, but the Rams have
evaluation of over ten billion dollars. The Cowboys are number one.
Cowboys are twelve point eight eight billion, and the Rams
are ten point four to three billion dollars. Think about this.

(28:30):
A decade ago, the Rams were in Saint Louis. They're
my dead last in the NFL. They were worth nine
hundred and thirty million. Now they are worth ten billion dollars.
So what does that tell you? A couple of things. First,
NFL franchise, those are worth more than any franchises, and
that ten point four to three is going to go up. Yeah,

(28:50):
the Los Angeles market is worth an awful lot of money.
If you have a team in Los Angeles, it's worth
an awful lot of money, which is why the characters
we'll never go back to San Diego. That's correct, But
the Chargers are only worth six point two billion. You
own them own. They don't get any of the stadium revenue.
That's all Kronky and the Rams. Well here's why, because

(29:12):
the Rams own the stadium. Yes, that's the deal. You
want to own the stadium. Yes, that increases the value
of your asset. Because if you look, aren't the Jets
and the Giants like back to back or the Giants
are head of the Jets, But the Jets are right
there because they both share that stadium revenue, don't they correct?
And they're in New York, right, that market is worth more,

(29:33):
and if you own the property, it is worth more. Now,
when the Chargers came, the issue was they didn't have
the money to build a stadium. That was really the issue.
So they ended up here and they pay rent, they
lease so far stadium. Yeah, but they don't own it, right,
and those other dates out of the year goes into

(29:53):
Kronky's pocket, correct, not the charge. Do you think the
Chargers ever, once they really have established I mean they
already have established themself here but do you think they
ever build their own stadium? No? No, not enough. Well, well,
if he were to sell the team to somebody, he

(30:13):
would have, they would possibly, But with the Spaniels on
it and they're they're not going to shovel out the
money to do it on their own. No, because California
is not going to pay for it, and they're not
going to put taxpayers are not going to pay for it.
So it's going to come out of private money and
they're not going to do that. No, they won't do it.
And here's the thing. Building the stadium is not enough.

(30:35):
Oh I build a football stadium. That's great, That's not enough.
It's the development around the stadium. Yes, that's what you
have to build. That's how you make your money back.
You build a football stadium. How many dates a year
to your book? Really thirty? Yeah? With concerts, yeah, you're
and you're competing with concerts. If you build one, you're
competing with so Fi and Staples and right wherever else

(30:58):
you're you're you know, every other stadium is BMO Stadium.
I mean all these stadiums you're competing with that you
try to get soccer and concerts in and you're right.
You know, you got to build around it, a marketplace
around it, so you own that land that you can
build a mall or theater or office buildings or whatever
you've got there. Yeah, so it's worth ten. But which

(31:20):
is why Arty Moreno was pissed off that they didn't
do the deal down there in Anaheim, right, that would
have been the game changer. Yeah, that that that would
have been the game changer right there if they had
gone through with that. But of course then the mayor
got indicted and for inside negotiating and all kinds of
weird stuff, so that what the hell? So they couldn't
do that? Don't you remember when he was going to

(31:41):
go to first he's going to go to Long Beach,
then I think at a point he was going to Tustin. Yeah,
that's the game. It's not good the stadium anymore. Yeah,
could the Chargers move down there? Could the Chargers do
a deal with you know, kind of in Orange County
that works for them building it around And would they

(32:01):
get the attendance still if they were in Orange County, Well,
you gotta figure if they're an Orange County, they're closer
to San Diego. That's number one. They still get that
fan base that they had down there, and you got
the LA fan base that still likes to charge. It
would be willing to go down to Orange County for
a game once a week. But why would you do that?
Because if that happened, then the NFL would put an

(32:23):
expansion team in here in LA. There'd be three teams. No, No,
they wouldn't. Oh, they would have another team in that stadium.
They would have another team in that They will have
another team in that state. They would be considered the
same market. They would not much like I don't know,
baseball team can't be in LA. I understand, But I'm
saying the NFL wants two teams in LA, and they

(32:46):
want two teams in that stadium. They would still be
in LA. Yeah, but they want two teams in that stadium.
They do. That was the plan from the beginning. Yeah,
that was the plans. Change. I don't think anybody argue said,
look we are we we built our own fan base.
Now we don't want to be second fiddle to the
Rams in their stadium paying rent. Let's make our own money.

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It's a business decision.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I mean the Clippers did it move moved to Long Beach. Yeah,
So why couldn't I'm just making up a name. Why
couldn't Jeff Bezos buy the Chargers and do that in
Orange County somewhere if you wanted to.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I guess he could. Would he make his money back?
Would he care? You're saying it would be an investment? Yeah,
I don't know. Jerry Jones bought that team for a
little over one hundred million dollars, right, Jeff Bezos. O's
on that team for ten years? Yeah, he would make money.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, just only AE an NFL franchise for any number
of time you're going to make your money back.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's one hundred percent, one hundred percent. Jeffrey, Jeffrey Loriie
bought the Eagles for under two hundred million dollars. Think
about that in nineteen ninety four, and thirty years later,
it's what ten billion dollars? The Eagles are Yeah around there?

(33:58):
Not a bad investments, not bad.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
So using the same metric you talked about, Fred, if
they buy the Chargers, you make a stadium, you make
a development around the stadium, you can't make that money
back and build it.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
I don't know. I don't think. I don't think you
would make as much an Orange County as you wouldn't
Lost Angeles.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
As a tenant. That's so fright.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, no, because remember you're not spending any money here.
Here's the thing you're paying, right, the Chargers six point
any money either, well.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
A lot of revenue left on the table that you're
not making that.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
I understand that. But certainly you're making money because you're
not putting as much out. The Chargers over six point
two billion dollars because of this. Let's say somebody decided
to buy KNBC television. Somebody came in to buy the
television station and they said, you got it, but there's

(34:50):
no building. You won the television station, but there's no building.
So all the equipment you need you don't have. You
gotta rent it. You got to either runt it back,
build your own building. Now, if you had your own building,
it'd be worth a billion dollars. Now it's worth two

(35:11):
hundred million. That's why the Chargers are worth six point
two billion dollars. Yeah, because they is the Chargers. Yeah,
but if you built their stadium, if they had their stadium,
they'd be worth eight points two billion dollars. They had
their own stadium, and you're talking about Orange County, they'd
be the only show in town. And then you talk
about Venue A. A artist would then go not only

(35:35):
play so Fi, they would play in Orange County as
well on the same bill. So now you if they're
close by, they're picking one of the venues in LA
that they're going to play at, BMO Staples into It
or so Fi, right, depending on the artists. If they
have a stadium, state of the art stadium in Orange County,

(35:57):
that artist is playing down there too. Well, it cost
Kronky five billion dollars to build Sofi Stadium, not the development.
They went crazy because it started out at three, didn't it.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
It started at three?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Right, Yes, yeah, it costs them five billion. The whole
thing's like fifteen billion dollars, but five billion form to
build it. So you're saying there's five added to the
Chargers six. No, you do it like the Raiders didn't
go crazy in Vegas. You don't have to build you
don't have to build Sofi, which is the taj Mahal
of football stadiums in the NFL. It is the best

(36:29):
stadium in the NFL. Jerry, whatever you want, Sofi is
the best stadium in the NFL might be the best
stadium in the world. You don't have to build that
in Orange County. You have to build that big. You
build it big enough to hold a Super Bowl. You
build it for sixty five thousand, seventy five that can
expand the seventy five thousand need be And it doesn't

(36:51):
have to have necessarily the outside bells and whistles area.
It just has to have nice luxury suites and come
a comfortable stadium. You don't have to put five billion
into it. I'll bet you right now it would cost
four cause prices go up. Yeah, probably probably if you

(37:15):
got me, I make a make a deal down in
Orange County better than you can make it in LA.
What do you what are you negotiating now? Yeah? Are
you gonna call somebody? I had a prid down there.
If you were had a guy Rodney.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
If you were to ask Dean Spandels behind closed doors
where Rodney was just talking about, if that were feasible,
I guarantee you he'd say sign me up today. Guarantee it.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
No, he wouldn't. Here's why because once you're here, you're here.
You don't want to go to Orange County. You want
to be in l A seriously, because then you'd be
the Orange County No, absolutely, LA.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
The Giants and Jets play in New Jersey like that. No, no,
you wouldn't. You still be the.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
LA Chargers, right, still be and reap all the LA benefits.
You know what, I'm gonna call Dean Spanels next week.
Can ask them good I will. I'll call Dean Spanels
and ask him if somebody gave you four billion dollars
right now to build a stadium in Orange County that
you owned, You owned the stadium, you could develop the

(38:20):
land around it, and it was an Orange County would
you go? But I'll say, if you had four billion dollars,
if somebody was gonna give it to them, of course
you go. Say you have to spend the money. It's
to somebody, a wealthy cat. Look I'm looking at I
can't get in as an owner right now. I'll be
your minority partner for four billion and we go build

(38:40):
that stadium down in a developed big developer says, I'll
be your partner four billion dollars, we build the stadium
and land around it in Orange County. Well, but that
would be the majority partner, because it's worth six. If
he gave them four, then they'll give you two because
you can. If I give you two, then we'll do
a loan for the other two to make this the stadium.

(39:01):
All Right, I'm gonna call Dean Spanel sest we can
ask him.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Okay, by the way, everything you just said, if that
were the case, he'd still be in San Diego right now.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's true. Oh, that's true if he Yeah, but it
wasn't the case. Oh are we doing this? Are we
giving these tickets away sometime today? Kevin?

Speaker 2 (39:22):
We have tickets to tomorrow's game Dodgers Padres at some
point to give away today.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Right, Stay with us for that.

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Speaker 1 (39:44):
Up Side Down, Boy, you Turn Me. Today's throwback Thursday
edition of Afternoon Delight is Upside Down by Diana rolf
the Ball. This track was the lead single off the
singer's tenth studio album entitled Diane, which was released in
nineteen eighty. The song reached the top of the Billboard

(40:05):
charts in early September of that year and maintained the
top spot for four consecutive weeks. In addition to top
in the charts in five countries, the song also received
the Grammy nomination for Best Female R and B Vocal
Performance and was ranked seventy seven on the Billboards Hot

(40:26):
Top one hundred Songs of All Time Again. Today's Throwback
Thursday edition of Afternoon Delight is upside Down by Diana
the Boss Ralph.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
All Right now from the Court to the court Room
with Jacob and Ronni all.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Right now on weekly Chat with our buddy Jacob and
Ronnie and Jacob, how are you.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
I'm doing wonderful. How are you Fred? How are you Roddy?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Jacob? We're doing good. We're doing good. Better than the Dodgers, Jacob,
and I wanted to ask you, as the Dodgers are
reeling at your firm, when you guys have I know
you probably never experienced it, but if you're going through
a tough month, Jacob, and you know, spirits may be
down a little bit. It's the doldrums. As the leader
of your firm. What do you say to the team,

(41:17):
how do you get them to respond and let them
know they're they're still the best.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
I say, we go to happy hour. That's what we do.
You know what it is I think, you know they
always in this world, you're always judged on basically your
last you know, your last show, your last performance. And

(41:43):
one of the things that's really important is, you know,
we always say that we have to learn from our
mistakes if it's a mistake. Unfortunately, sometimes the results we
get is not always in our hands. If a case
goes to trial or if there's a jury, you know,
they get a chance to make a decision. That's why
you know, when we go to you know, when we

(42:06):
go into litigation for cases, we're open to go to
mediation because we always love our clients to be the
ones that make the decision if they can to settle
the case. But really, in the big picture, you know,
looking at the Dodgers, looking at what happens with us,
the great thing is there's always tomorrow, There's always another day,

(42:26):
and you've got to be positive because you know, you're
not always judged by today. If you have other chances.
And I always try to encourage our people to learn
from their mistakes, try to make sure that we do
better the next time. And you've got to be positive,
because if you're not positive, then not only have you
had a bad result on the you know, on our

(42:47):
cases today, but that's going to sort of have an
effect on how they're going to work the cases going forward.
So I always feel like we learn and we keep
pushing forwards.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Jacoba. The NBA schedule release is out. I don't know
if you've had a chance to see the Lakers schedule.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Pretty brutal, huh. Those road trips pretty brutal. Actually, Kevin
and I were just talking about it before I got
on the air. They got some long road trips. They're
going to rock up some miles.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, got a road trip, wow, yep. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
But you know, we've got a couple of new players
on and you know, as they say, these road trips
are are good for teams because it gives them an
opportunity in order to sort of focus in on the team.
There's no you know, family, there's no going home, so
you know, it brings the team closer, and you know,

(43:41):
we are going to have you know, five six new
players as of right now and you know, with Luca
now leading the way, I think these road trips are
great to bring hopefully more harmony together for the team.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, and Jacob, everybody's trying to figure out the motivation
behind Luca and his new body and you know, men's
fitness and men's health. He's undercovers and he's got he
looks great and all that kind of stuff. Is it,
you know, him being around Lebron is it? You know,
being at LA is it he was hoping for the
new contract? Is it revenge against the the Dallas Mavericks

(44:16):
for letting him go and fat shaming him. All of
those things are out there, But at the end of
the day, does it really matter. It could be just
Luca for Luca, can't it. Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Listen, I mean, you know there, we all wake up
every morning. We all have to have motivation to perform.
Sometimes you are self motivated, sometimes there's outside factors. I
know for a fact that when Luke I got tried
it last year, I had the opportunity, you know, to
you know, have some conversations with his manager, and you know,

(44:50):
I was so impressed hearing that Luca is so driven
to always want to be the best wherever he is,
and obviously now being in LA and the Lakers having
giving him the keys to the city. I mean, the
Lakers just keep doing this, right, They keep bringing the
next amazing player, and now with Luca here, this really

(45:13):
is the first time that Luca and the Lakers are
having a chance to, you know, work together to set
up players around Luca. And I think he knows that
this is a big season for him, and you know,
whatever the motivation I could tell you as a Laker fan,
I am so happy to see that he took it

(45:34):
so seriously. He went out there, got that body in shape.
He's killing it in euro Basketball, and he's going to
do great when he comes back. I'm even more excited
for the you know, they have the annual Las Vegas
preseason game, and this year the preseason game is going
to be against the Mavericks as well, so you know,

(45:54):
we're going to be seeing a lot of Mavericks and
I think it's really exciting as a Laker fan and
for all the Laker nation what Luca is going to
do for this team going forward, hopefully for many years.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Jacob, Before we let you go, our listeners love when
you answer a question. Here's the thing I've noticed, So
you tell me if I'm right or wrong. I know
some people that have been in accidents, they're okay, But
it seems like insurance companies are calling them much quicker
to get a statement now than they did in the past.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Yeah, so it's interesting. You know, starting January first, the
California minimum for liability insurance increase to thirty thousand dollars.
For many years, the minimum insurance that anybody you know
have to carry was fifteen thousand dollars, And now with
the increase to thirty thousand dollars, which means insurance companies

(46:50):
are going to be on the hook for more money
even on the lowest level. Not only are they trying
to get statements, but they're calling the clients as quickly
as possible before the client has an opportunity to talk
to an attorney to know their rights, and they're trying
to throw money at them to get a signature. So obviously,

(47:11):
if they could throw one thousand and fifteen hundred bucks
two thousand and three thousand at a client who doesn't
even know what their injuries potentially are, then and they
can get the signature, they're saving money on every policy.
The one thing I want to share with our listeners
is that if you were involved in an accident and

(47:31):
you're not badly injured, and you don't think that you
need any medical treatment, and you get that phone call
and you want to settle the case and they're offering
you one thousand, fifteen hundred, that may be okay, and
you know you can do that, but be very careful
because I've gotten phone calls from people who have settled

(47:53):
the case, you know, with the insurance company who called
them and said, hey, I'm going to pay you two
thousand dollars settle your case. But this client had gone
to the emergency room but had no idea what his
bills were, and suddenly they settled the case for two
thousand dollars and then get a bill from the insurance
you know, emergency room for five grand, and now they

(48:14):
have to go out of pocket. So that's one of
the reasons that we always tell people, don't be in
such a hurry to give a statement to the insurance company.
Don't be in such a hurry in order to get
a settlement or sign paperwork until you get a consultation,
you know, with our firm or any attorney that you
feel is good for you. Make sure you cross your

(48:36):
and dodge your eyes before they get you to sign
on that piece of paper, because you don't know what
amount of bills you're going to have, and that's all
going to come out of your pocket if you undervalue
and you undersettle. And also if they're offering you two
thousand dollars, you can be damn sure that case is
worth ten thousand dollars, or they wouldn't be offering you
two thousand dollars from the jump, right. So you just

(48:58):
want to make sure that you don't get too excited
when somebody calls you with an offer.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
All right, Well we got excited when we talk to you.
Does that count?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Is that okay? Absolutely? Because I get just as excited
talking to you.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
All right, Jacob, thanks for coming on. Have a great weekend.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Thanks guys, have a great weekend too.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Still have a pair of tickets to give away Dodgers
padres tomorrow night's game. We'll do it between now and
three o'clock when we come back. More Dodgers. Bill Plunkett
joins the show