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August 19, 2025 • 45 mins
After sweeping the Padres, the Dodgers lost their series opener against Colorado. A big scapegoat for the loss was Teoscar Hernandez who had a couple of defensive miscues. David Vassegh hops on to discuss the reported 'secret meeting' between Mookie Betts and the Dodger brass after the game, potential defensive solutions in right field and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, let's go to work, Fred Ruggan Rodney Pete
on a five seventy LA Sports. It is the big
two hour program for us today because the Dodgers continue
their series in Colorado, and uh, just when you thought
the skies were bright and everybody was happy, they go
up there and they lose yesterday. Ford, it's right now,

(00:23):
there is good Fred.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
You did that, you put it on them?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
What did oh? Please? All right? What did I do?
Did I say they were gonna sweep or did you Yeah,
you said they were gonna sweep it? No, yeah, you
said they're gonna win it. All you said they're definitely
gonna win yesterday. I did say that. I did say that.
But you see it's good news because the game actually
didn't count. And you go, why is that it didn't
even count? It's like never happened because the Padres lost too.

(00:50):
So see that's why I counted even more, Fred, what
are you talking about? What are you talking about? Fred?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
That's exactly why it counts even more because the Padres
he's trying to You know, it once was a time
to keep pace with the Padres. Now it's time to separate.
Isn't that what we said yesterday. By them going to
Colorado and the Padres having a tough run against the Giants,
it's gonna be difficult for them. We said, the Dodgers
can can separate themselves, and that's what they needed to do,

(01:19):
and they got off to a horrible start by losing
the first game to Colorado. Now Colorado's got confidence and
wants to play spoiler. No, we can beat the Dodgers,
knock them back down. Come on, you got to go Dodger.
That was disappointing.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Fred.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, it was at a number of levels. First, I
thought yamamoo had a pretty good outing. Rodney, Yeah, I
did too.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I did too.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
You know, I think, yeah, he didn't get a whole
lot of help, But I thought I thought he pitched
well well enough to win and he went deep for him.
So that that's kind of what the Dodgers need. And
you expect in Colorado the Dodge's gonna score more than
three runs. I mean, that's just that's three runs when

(02:06):
you wake up out of bed in Colorado, that's a given.
You know, at least you gonna get two by waking up,
you brush your teeth, and that's three. So for them
to lay an egg when he pitched like that is
not a good thing either. Yeah, that didn't help offensively.
But the real story last night, and look, it's been

(02:27):
an issue, but it really exploded last night because they
should have won that game with defense, and the defensive
problems were pointed at one person, Tail Hernandez, playing right field,
he made two costly defensive mistakes. He tried to throw
out the lead runner at third instead of keeping the
batter from going from first to second. Both runners scored

(02:49):
on a subsequent single, and then he booted a ball
in the outfield, allowing the winning run to reach base
and ultimately score. Now we know a couple of things. First,
tails better and left than isn't right. Second, Tale is
not right. He was injured earlier in the year, and
I think it's been abundantly obvious that he's not been
the same guy defensively lastly, at least last night Colorado.

(03:16):
There's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Room to roam there. That outfield is gargantelan and he's
been having some problems getting to the ball because I
don't think he's still right. So you total all of
those up, and that explains what happened with the winning
run the other mistake he made. And if you watch

(03:38):
baseball and understand the game, you know, just a throat
of the wrong base can cost you, and it cost
them last night we have Dave Roberts talking about that.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
I mean, he does he's got to get better out there,
and there's just no way to put it. I know
there's effort is it's not a lack of effort, but
I think the thing is is that we just got
to kind of get better. We do, and so, yeah,
I don't know what else to say.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
You sound a little frustrated for the second part of
the season with the ringfield player.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Are you're considering any changes.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Is there anything you can do?

Speaker 4 (04:17):
You know, I don't think that there's right now. Yeah,
I mean he's going to be in the lineup. You know,
there's nothing you know, so for you know, when you
have a plus game, I think I'm doing a good
job of trying to get him off his legs and
putting in some defensive specialists to go into prevent run
prevention mode. But you know, he's got to keep putting
in the work to continue to get better. You know,

(04:40):
he's up third in the next in in the bottom
half or the top half.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
So I'm not going to take him out of the game.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
And so it's just one of those things that you know,
the defense is a big part of postseason baseball and
winning baseball. So yeah, he's just got to continue to
get better.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Okay, I think Rodney, you can hear the frustration and
Dave Roberts voice, Yeah, without a doubt in that situation,
I believe they're up to right and the Dodgers they
got a base hit to right field.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
It's kind of in the gap a little bit. He's
slow to get there, and I'll get into that in
a second, but he's slow to get there. So the
runner decided he was gonna go and challenge it and
went the first to third on that one, and by
him making the throw to third, the batter got to
second base on the throw, and that put runners at
second and third and then next base hit of course

(05:34):
two and the game is tied. So that's the thing
you got to think beforehand. And that's something that you
talk about, you know, from the time you play little
league Baseball's where you're going with the ball that's hit
to you. Where you're going with the ball is hit
to you, and I think the doubt came in when
it kind of went in the gap a little bit.
He probably got a bad jump on it. And you're right,
he is not right. I mean to tell you what

(05:54):
you want to say. He is not right right now.
He is not going at full strength. I think he's
still lumbering from the growing and some of the other
injuries that he's had over this season. And you could
tell his acceleration, his gidea up is not there and
it's affecting him defensively. But again, like Dave said, he's
not coming out of the lineup because his bat and

(06:16):
his offense it's so valuable. But yeah, that was a big,
big mistake early in the game that they cost him
a couple of runs and tied the game up for Colorado.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's deflating. It was just deflating for the Dodgers. And
then what happened in the ninth inning, it's deflating. And
Dave Roberts said they should have won that game. He
also said it wasn't fair to Yamamoto seven innings, three
earned runs, six strikeouts. He deserved better. So offensively they
didn't get him what he needed. But on the defensive end,

(06:45):
that cost him last night, and that was a game
they should have won. So what was interesting after the game?
And by the way, David Vassa is scheduled to be
here in the next segment. What was interesting after the game?
Apparently after some of the player have left, so the
clubhouse was maybe half empty, Andrew Friedman and Dave Roberts
were there, and Mooky asked to talk with them. Moki

(07:10):
hasked to have a meeting with him after the game.
Not everybody was there. Now we don't know what was
said in that meeting, and maybe David vass say, well,
if anybody will, it'll be him, and he'll be on
again next But I found that really interesting that MOOKI
requested a meeting after that specific loss.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Do you agree, Rodney, No, I don't think it's interesting.
He's a leader on the team, and you know, it's
clearly as we're talking about, is a game they should
have won. They go from sweeping the Padres and putting
themselves right back in a position to kind of win
the West again and just control the West, to losing

(07:50):
a game they should win and a chance and an
opportunity to take a bigger lead against the Padres because
they lost. So, yeah, a loss like that in Colorado
was frustrating. And so it could be a number of things.
I know everybody speculating and say that's well the move.
Talk was about a move back to right field for
Mookie and people have been clamoring about that. Look, we
take calls and half the calls are people Mookie should

(08:13):
be back in right field. I get it all the
time from friends of mine. Mukie should go back to
right field. We don't know if that was the conversation.
It could be just very well, what do we gotta
do to get our blank in gear and going and
what do you think the chemistry needs to be on
this team going forward as the leader on this team.
So it could be a number of things. But it's

(08:35):
not shocked by Mookie Betts calling for a meeting. Now
after that game, if ta Oscar calls for a meeting,
and they call for a meeting with tai Oscar, then
then I'm like, oh, something's something's going on. Something is
happening because of what just went down. But for Mookie,
or say it's Freddie Freeman calling for a meeting with

(08:55):
the with the club, I'm not or Muncie. I will
I'm not overly concerned or thinking about it's one thing
or again overly concerned about it.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
But on the surface, as an observer, given what's happened,
you have to consider the possibility that he talked about
or they talked about Mookie, maybe we need to put
you back and right field for defensive purposes. Look, the
Dodgers have not been great defensively this year, and that
is uncharacteristic in multiple situation, in multiple positions right, so

(09:30):
not just right field, and know everybody wants to focus
on right field, but not just right field. It's uncharacteristic.
And yeah, as Dave Roberts said, you got to play
defense in the playoffs. So now the playoffs are on
their mind, and it should be because we're you know,
thirty four or thirty five games left and you'll be

(09:50):
in the playoffs. So they've got to start getting themselves
in a position to be where they're going to be.
I mean, this would be a good time to grab
some momentum they built a little after the Padre series.
Hopefully they'll fix that tonight in the second game in Colorado.
But I thought, Okay, if Mooki is having a conversation
with them. Maybe that's what they're talking about, what's best

(10:10):
for the team, And that would be curious to see
who suggested what was best for the team. Did Mooki,
if they had that conversation, go to them. Did they
ask him about the possibility of going out there? I mean,
Faby and Ardaya said, Tayl ranks fourth among right fielders
with a minus eight outs above average. He has tied

(10:34):
for worst at fielding balls in front of him. I
didn't know they kept stats like that, but apparently they do.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
There's money in stats, Fritz. There's right, there's money in stats.
There's money. Ever since Moneyball, all the all the guys
from from M I, T and cal Tech and all
those guys said, hey, there's there's there's money in sports.
Let me go over there and create these stats and
figure out algorithms, and and yes, next gen all these

(11:02):
companies starts springing up that are analyzing every little detail
in terms of wins and losses. And yeah, so everything
is measured.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
So if in fact, they put Mooki back in right field,
now you have to figure out what you're gonna do
offense defensively in the infield. Now, Kim could be back soon.
He's starting a rehab assignment next week. That'll be good.
But what would you do You have Freeland and you
have Rojas right now, and I'm not sure when Edmond's

(11:33):
coming back, but there would be a way to put
Mooky back in right field. And if that was the
case and Tale's not coming out of the game, no,
that's its Conforto.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Well, yeah, and the obvious I guess the answer is
you move Tail back to left field, where usually the
range doesn't have to be as great as it it
does in right field, along with the arm, even though
Tail has a tremendous arm, but the range for him
in left field would be easier for him. And plus,
Conforto has struggled also defensively in left field when he's

(12:08):
played out there. Now calls played out there a little bit,
but Conforto for the most part has been there throughout
the season and he struggled defensively. So the you know,
the top of mind, simple move is move Tail to
left and put Mookie back and right. But again, I'm
not so sure that was the conversation that they had,

(12:29):
and I know everybody wants to speculate that that is
the conversation that Mookie is going back to right field.
Maybe the conversation Fred was I am absolutely not going
back to right field. Maybe that's why Mookie called that meeting. Hey, listen,
I know you guys are thinking about it. Everybody's talking
about it, moving me back to right field. We made

(12:51):
a commitment for me to play shortstop, and that's where
I'm going to be. Maybe that was a conversation.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Do you do you see Mookie bats having that conversation?
Doesn't it seem a little lot of character? Or do
you see Mooki Bats going what do we need to do?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
How do you think he moved the short stop in
the first place? Do you think they went to him?
Do you think they went to him into Mookie? Hey,
six time gold Glove right fielder, and you don't play
short stop since high school? Uh or coming up in
the minor league. So we just won World Series, you know,

(13:30):
playoffs every year, so let's just move.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
You to uh, let's move you to shortstop.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
We haven't they came to him? Or was it Mooki going, Hey,
I want to play short stop. I think I can
play short stop.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Okay, I'm sure at that point it was obviously Mookie saying, hey,
I want to play shortstop, let me play shortstop. But
that was before the season. Now we're in the season,
and sometimes circumstances change, like last year changed, right, but
I'm talking about right now. Sometimes circumstances change. And to me,
it seems like Mookie would be whatever we all think

(14:05):
is best for the team, whatever we think. And I
can be wrong, and David Vasse will come on next
and he'll have far more insight and perhaps prove everything
I've said makes no sense. But I'm thinking he's the
kind of guy that says, if this is what we
need to win, or we believe this is going to
be a difference maker, I'm in. I'll do it. At

(14:30):
least that's the impression I get from him. I could
be wrong, and he could have the conversation and say
I'm not moving. But I've always looked at him as
a leader, as a guy that would do what was
necessary and honestly, Rodney, because you played and what is
necessary well, and that's what I'm saying. That's an opinion,

(14:51):
what is necessary, that's opinion that everything is going to
go smooth. When he goes to right field and they
put Freeland at shortstop or Mickey Rogue the shortstop, and
now Miggey Rowe is struggling at the plate. I mean,
what makes him go in the right field, going to
be right? Corey Seeker's not playing short stop, coming back

(15:11):
to play short stop right, So Trey Turner not coming
back to play short stop as he has done in
the past when Mooki's played right. So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
If that is I know that's the popular opinion out there,
but I don't know if that is the right thing
to do. So, yeah, all those guys are team players,
but they're also there's a level of selfishness with every player.
They wouldn't be here, they wouldn't be at this position.
So you know, we'll see what happens. And I you know,

(15:45):
you're probably he could be right or you could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
We don't know. That's my thing.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Someone who may be able to shed a little light
on it if I'm right or wrong. David Vass He
is in Denver and he will join us next.

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Speaker 3 (16:29):
Oh yes, come on, let's keep it moving, Rodney Pete,
Fred Rogan on a Tuesday, on a Tuesday, on this
roller coaster season that is Dodgers twenty twenty five, Fred,
Dodgers still have a two game lead over the Podres.
That didn't change because the Padres lost last night. But
the big question what happened after the game. Let's go
to Denver. Welcome on, David Vassy, who is everywhere? Dave,

(16:52):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Hey, great to be with you guys, and great to
be with a big time TV star, Reality TV, Good
Morning Football TV star and you Fred Rogan.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Thanks for that day, David Besse. When they call sometimes
you just gotta go, brother, you gotta go.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
You know the best part of that show? What are
you talking about?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Do you mean good Morning Football?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Good morning? Oh?

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Yeah, yeah, well the best part of the other show.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Hell right, Dave?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
What happened with Mooky after the game in that meeting?
Do you know?

Speaker 6 (17:26):
Well, here we go. Guys, there's a headline, there's a
story written that there was a meeting between Mookie Bets,
Dave Roberts, and Andrew Friedman. We don't know what was
said in that office. We don't know what if it
was just something other than moving back to right field.
Now we all know that's something that might happen. I

(17:49):
don't know when it will happen, but it's not happening
tonight because the Dodgers don't have Tommy Edmond, they don't
have Key k Hernandez. I can envision the Dodgers considering
it more in September, once they get those two guys
back together on the roster and healthy. Right now, they
would not be helping themselves by moving Mookie Bets to

(18:11):
right field. But like I said, it was a little
irresponsible to right there was a meeting between Dave Roberts,
Mookie Bets, and Andrew Friedman without telling us and without
knowing what the meeting was all about.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, and like you said, it could have been about anything.
It could.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
I suggest it could be about, you know, frustration of
them coming off a sweep of San Diego and then
going laying an egg in Colorado. It could be a
number of things, talking about some an issue with maybe
some players, maybe having off the field. Movie's a leader
of that team, so it could have been anything. So
I'm with you on that one.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
I don't even think we can even try to guess
what it was about. But no, a lot of people
are jumping into the conclusion about him moving back to
right field, and look, that's the automatic one, but we
don't know for certain if that's what was discussed, and
I don't know if we ever will, but I mean,
right now, it looks like Taoscar Hernandez is running in quicksand.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, he does, he does. He doesn't look right at all, Dave,
And we mentioned that earlier, Dave, do you think you know, yes,
the speculation of him moving to right field. My thing is,
don't you think they've had these kind of conversations with
Mookie when him moving to shortstop that if it arises
that we need you in right field, would you consider

(19:31):
going back? And the way their communication is that these
are conversations that they probably have already had, not just
waiting to there's you know, it's the eleventh hour. We
were panicking. We got to move you back to right field.
It feels like their communication has always been you're gonna
play short stop, but there might be a moment that
we move you back right field, if that indeed.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Is the case.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
I'm not aware of any of those type of conversations
at this point. It's not like last year, so I'm
not even sure they've had those conversations yet. The only
conversation they came close to having with Mooky going back
to right field was that game, the second game of
the series in Anaheim, were actually the first one when

(20:13):
Dave Roberts ran out of players and Mooki was asked
to go out to right field for the last two innings.
That's the closest it's come to having a conversation about
right field, because it doesn't seem like that was on
the table until maybe recently, Dave.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
After the game last night, Dave Roberts sounded as down
as I've heard him in a long time. And I'm
also talking about during the struggles leading into the Padre series.
Last night, What did you think of what he said
after the game.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
I mean, they were trying to get him to bury
ta Oscar Hernandez. How much can he say? Yeah, the
guy should have caught it. Most right fielders catch it.
But I will tell you this. I know everybody's throwing
out the catch probability of ninety nine percent. That's inaccurate.
It would be ninety nine percent if he was playing
straight away right field. I've been told this. The actual

(21:08):
catch probability of where he was playing no doubles at
course field, the catch probability was significant, significantly lower to
forty two percent. So that changes the entire conversation.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes you don't look at that. You
just say, Okay, this is where he's supposed to be
or usually is in right field, so he should have
caught it. But he could have been shaded to the left.
He could have been playing deep. And in that ballpark,
it's it's a it's a wasteland out there, so it's
a big ballpark.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
So you never know, Dave, Yeah, we do know it's
forty two percent.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Does paying I'm talking about the people saying ninety nine
percent catch probability don't really know.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
Those are the bloggers that just throw numbers out, Rodney,
you know how that goes.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Hey, Dave, let me let me jump in real quick.
If in fact, tail's going to stay out there right
if he so we know there's a defensive problem here,
and we know he's not one hundred percent right, So
we already got that. But what do you do do
They just keep running them out there and hope for
the best.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
Well, fred I said this on Dodger Talk last night.
Obviously the automatic is move Mooky to right field. Moved
Taoskar back to left field because that worked to win
the World Series last year. But there's other ways to
get there better defensively without moving Mooki back to right field.
When keyk a Hernandez returns, you could have an outfield

(22:29):
alignment of Keik and center. Andy Pa hasn't right ta
Oscar Hernandez in left field. But I think we can
all agree that ta Oscar is thirty two years old.
He's a year older. He was so great in left
field last year. The Dodgers didn't feel the urge to
put him there last season. He's a year older. He's
had groin issues this year, he's had a foot issue

(22:51):
this year. He's just not moving well. And it's you know,
you can outslug some mistakes, but the Dodgers haven't been
able and take Oscar hasn't been able to outslug his
mistakes this year, so I think the consensus is he's
better in left field to make the Dodgers a better
outfield defense.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Dave, what do you make of Freelan since he's come up, Man,
I know he's struggling. I have to play a little
bit and kind of been up and down a little bit.
But defensively, I think he's been really good. And I
just I like his confidence. I like his attitude. What
do you think of him?

Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, I like his swagger. I mean, he's a baseball rat.
That's what I've been told, and I think we're seeing
that he only cares about baseball, and I think the
Dodgers have a really good player for the future. I'm
not not necessarily saying he's an everyday player. The jury's
still out on that, but he's certainly a guy to
have on the bench that could play four or five

(23:45):
times a week and play third, play short, play second,
and come off the bench, especially since he's a switch hitter.
We saw that in spring training. I got to like
him in spring training. His teammates love him. He's an
high energy type of guy, so he's a good guy
to have on the team, and you know, moving forward
next year, I could see him being part of the

(24:07):
twenty six man roster and coming off the bench and
being part of the team.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Dave flashing back to the weekend series with the Padres,
the way that played out, The Padres looked like the
Dodgers did going into the series, and the Dodgers then
looked like the Padres were heading into the series. Those
are three very important games and the Dodgers it seemed
to have their number from day one. Is there a
psychological issue do you think with the Padres trying to

(24:34):
get past the Dodgers, because the Dodgers looked pretty good
against them.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
Yeah, I think that's a fair question to ask. Are
the Dodgers in the Padres head? They've beaten them eight
out of ten times and coming back after being down
two games to one last year. It just feels like
they're not the same team. And even some of the
guys that covered the Padres on an everyday basis said,
this doesn't look like the same team that we have
seen the last two months. So yeah, yeah, it's a

(25:00):
valid question the Dodgers have the mental edge over the Padres.
I don't know. I hate to use this analogy again,
but it feels like it that little brother big brother situation,
and the Dodgers certainly heightened their focus, and it started
on Friday night with Clayton Kershaw demanding that not only
on Friday, but demanding it every time he goes out.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, speaking of that, because we talked about it yesterday
day before we let you go. Clayton Kershaw has been
the stopper. He's been the consistent pitcher for them, and
what he did Friday night when the Dodgers absolutely have
to have it was incredible. When people are written him
off is fastball? What is topping out at ninety two?
Maybe if that? And he is just pitching unbelievable right now.

(25:48):
Just can't say enough about Clayton what he's.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Doing for sure. And that's what the great ones do.
Every time everybody's so eager to push them out of
the league, they show that they still belong. It happened
with Tom Brady, it's happening with Clayton Kershaw. You know
Rob Manfred gave him that honorary spot on the All
Star team. Well, he better be ready to do it

(26:11):
again next year because I don't see any reason why
Clayton Kershaw should retire if he stays healthy the rest
of the year.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Dave, who's on the pre game tonight?

Speaker 6 (26:21):
We got third base coaching the outfield coach Dino Ebel
on the show tonight, and tomorrow we're going to catch
up with newly retired world champion Alex Wood.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Nice nice Wood, Georgia boy. I love it.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
All right, guys, have a great rest of your show.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Thanks Dave, appreciate you. Jump day David Massey and Denver
Well Rodney he said.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
What you said? Yeah, we who knows what that meeting
was about? Yeah, we don't know. And it's easy. I mean,
that's what we do, right. We like to speculate and
like to figure it out beforehand so we can say
we're right. But same time, and I know the betting
money is that was what the conversation was. But still,
and then you think about this, Fred, what does it

(27:10):
do to Mooki. He's already gone through some struggles this year.
He's just coming off of a cold streak that we
haven't seen from him ever in his career. He's starting
to heat up again. Now you drop this bomb on
him and say, okay, Mooki by the way, we value

(27:31):
more in right field than at shortstop. And I don't
care what you say who you are, that moving him
back is a blow to.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
The ego.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
So I don't get that if they went to him
and said, but you would understand because you played, so
you have a different perspective.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
MOOKI.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Obviously there's an issue here. We've got to clean this up.
As we look at it, the only option we have
to clean that part of it up, and we know
it's probably going to be a pain, but we got
to put your back in right field for a while.
Tale's not right. We can't afford to be giving up
runs out there. So would you go back because we

(28:13):
think that'll clean it up? Well, does that sound like
a demotion or sort of a plea we need help?

Speaker 3 (28:21):
No, it's not of demotion, but it's certainly it's certainly
a blow to the ego from a guy that went
to them and said, I want to play shortstop. I
can play shortstop. And now you're saying you're not as
valuable for us at a shortstop, you're more valuable for

(28:41):
us at in right field. It would be just a
slight blow to your ego because then you're saying, well,
we don't believe you can cut it as much at
shortstop as you could in right field. If you just
look at things on paper, what's the more valuable position defense?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, I got it one hundred percent. But I'm not.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Saying he wouldn't do it. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Don't get me wrong, because Mooki is a team player,
and if they plead it with him to go play
right field, he would probably do it and and and
do it well. But still, guys are individuals, Guys have egos,
and it would it would it would be a little
blow to him.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I believe that. Listen.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I went to you, said I to prove I can
play shortstop people doubt, if people still doubt whether he
belongs at shortstop. So there is a prove it to
you mentality that Muki has right now. And if you
move him back, then do you ever does he ever
get to go back and play shortstop? Yes, this will
be two years in a row that they're moving back

(29:47):
to right field, and I don't think they ever or
he ever gets a chance to go back to play shortstop. Really,
if they and you, again, you may know better than
I do, but how do you put him back you
know your team is struggling right now, it's in the middle
of the and it's not Dave's. They said, probably I
wouldn't see it happen un till September. Maybe it does.
But they go to a stretch next year where they

(30:09):
they struggled before the All Star break or after the
All Star break, and he's playing shortstop, and they say, look,
it worked last year, Mookie, We're going to move you
back to right field because we are struggling. And but
they're struggling defensively in right field. They're struggling, well, they're
struggling defensively, but exactly it's glaring now given what happened

(30:31):
last night in period though, how glaring was it when
you know Confortol's been struggling out in left field, rights
played like that, you know, and people forget tail Remember
last year tale I think it was against the Mets
or somebody. He threw out the big pivotal play, threw
out somebody at home plate.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I think it was in the World Series. Tried to
press them at home plate and threw him out.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Exactly. So he's made big time plate when healthy. But
he's not healthy. So I'm saying if you if you
move him back out there, what happens next year when
there's a scenario the Dodgers are struggling, struggling in the
outfield and they go back to Mookie and say, oh,
you gotta go to right field again. You think that

(31:15):
happens again. You think he starts the season at shortstop
if they move him to right field this year?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Maybe I'm just really naive. Yes, I think they I
think he is the shortstop.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
But do you think he wants to At the end
of the day, it's like, oh, yeah, I may play shortstop,
but as soon as things go bad or rough, then
you're going to move me to right field.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Maybe again, maybe it's me. He seems to me like
a guy that would say, we gotta do what we
gotta do, and this is what I got right now.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I'm not saying he wouldn't, But how do you keep
going back and forth if he's trying to be the
best shortstop and in the back of his mind said,
oh God, we lost eight straight and right fielder is struggling. Oh,
here we go, here we go, I'm going back to
right field. I just don't know if it happens again,
because in his mind. They go to training camp or

(32:11):
spring training in Arizona and say, okay, MOOKI here here shortstop,
and he's gonna roll his eyes and go, yeah, for
how long? How long am I gonna be short stop?
You're gonna call me to bail you out again to
go play right field and lose. What I do is
trying to be the best short stuff I can beat.

(32:32):
And again, this is not saying that he wouldn't be
a team player and go play it that. I want
to be clear. He would probably do that in a heartbeat.
And maybe that was the meeting. We don't know, but
I'm just telling you as a guy that went to them,
this is a gold glove guy. A lot of people
believe that was unselfish, that he's a gold glover in

(32:53):
right field. Why not keep it safe, go get ten
gold gloves in right field? But he he challenged himself
and everybody else around him to go and play shortstop,
one of the most demanding positions on the field.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Coming up at one o'clock. What major league player said, Yeah,
during the off season, I do some fight training because
if I need to use it during the season, I'm
gonna f somebody up we'll talk about that coming up later.

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Oh Yeah.

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(34:11):
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Speaker 7 (34:28):
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Room with Jacob m Ronni.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
All right, our weekly check with a good friend Jacob
and Ronnie. Jacob, Good afternoon, How you doing?

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Hi? How are you We're doing?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Okay? Jacob? Everything all right with you?

Speaker 5 (34:46):
Yeah? Thank God, thank God. You know every day you
got to say thank God, and you know you got
to push forward. And that's my mentality. So I'm excited
to be on with you guys.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Great, let's start with this our Luka got banged up
in the euro Basketball Championships. Some people suggested, hey, he
shouldn't be playing. The Lakers should stop him from playing
in those games. What do you think?

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Well, first of all, it's important to remember that the
whole purpose of why Luca's playing in the euro Championships
is because he's staying in shape for this new year.
And every time he's played in the Euros and have
come back to the NBA, he's had a great year.
So I know, you know, the Euros is important for him,
and I know that this is a way for him

(35:29):
to roll into you know, the season and the best
shape of his life. We got lucky that injury, the
confusion was not bad and he's back playing. But you know,
I think, you know, Luca is very, very motivated in
order to have a great year, and I think he's
really motivated about the Euros. So I have a feeling

(35:50):
that he's going to continue to play. I don't think
anything's going to stop him.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Hey, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
I think out, you know, the new ownership and Mark
Walter's coming in, Guggenheim guys coming in. But yet Genie
is still going to be the governor of the of
the of the Lakers for the foreseeable future. I believe
it's five years that she's gonna, you know, remain in
that seat. Now, in recent months, we've seen other organizations

(36:21):
say the same thing, but yet come to the conclusion
that no, that's not going to be the case like
they did in Boston and also did it in Dallas.
Do you think Genie does remain the governor of this
team going forward for the next five years? And then
how much power do you think that really means as
as the Guggenheim and Mark Walters guys take over.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
So I think number one, it's not only Genie. Also
our good friend Rob will be you know, in his
position for the next five years along with Genie. And
I think the situation with Genie and the Lakers is
much different than what happened in Boston. Then Genie is
the face of the Lakers. The fandom love to see Genie.

(37:05):
It brings all of us, you know, the memories with
Doctor Buss and you know, with the way that Mark
Walter has ran the Dodgers. I don't think he's the
type of person that likes to come in the front
and he doesn't need the publicity. I think for him
it's actually good to make more decisions and have Genie

(37:26):
and Rob be in the front. And we all know
all of this is contingent on how successful you know
the team is going to be, So I think the
situation is a big difference. I think Genie's going to
be hanging around. I think she is going to have power.
But obviously, you know, Mark Walters is here to help
win championships, bring better facilities, have better coaching, hopefully have

(37:49):
better nutritional and you know, the training staff to keep
everybody healthy. So I think it's the greatest mix that
could have occurred with an owner that has shown that
he knows what it takes in order to win and
keep the fandom with the Dodgers, and I think he's
just going to replicate that with the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
So you think she is more than a things, I do?

Speaker 5 (38:12):
I do? I mean I think more than a face.
Remember there was always this talking on you know, this
is not facts that I know, but there was always
this conversation before that. It was Genie and other people's
making decisions. I think Genie will be there, but I
think the other decisions now will be made by you
know Walters and whoever he brings in. I don't know
whether the support staff is still going to be you

(38:34):
know the same, but I think none of us will
ever know that. I and I truly do believe that
our good friend Magic Johnson will very slowly get involved
more involved with the Lakers. And we all know we
love Magic, We love what he does, we love what
he brings to the table, and I think this team
just continues to get better and better.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
I knew you'd like that, Rodney.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
No, I think it's a good thing, you know, And
there's there's there's no doubt that, uh, you know, Mark
Walters does things in a collective way, and like you mentioned,
he didn't just come in and just clean house right
away with the Dodgers. He sat back and kind of
oversaw and and analyzed everything. And I assume that he
will do the same thing, you know with the Lakers.
I just I do believe that, and I do believe

(39:22):
Genie you know, will be there because it's it's a
good sign and a good thing. And like you said,
the fans love her, the league, the other owners, commissioner
loves her, so why not keep her in that position.
I'm not so sure on the other side, though, with
with Rob, because if things do go bad, there could
be some changes made in that regard.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 5 (39:45):
But even more right, but even more important than that,
I think you're right the success will depend and you know, Rob,
obviously I think is going to be judged by his success.
But I like to change the subject for a second,
and I'd like to ask, how how much fun did
you you have being on Ballers? Because I watched that
episode and I saw you running my alma mater, dis Trojan,

(40:08):
and I could not That was my favorite episode, you
and the rock going back and forth. I loved it.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Oh man, thank you so much for that. Someone brought
that back up and I reposted and thanks for coming
on that. I appreciate that, Jacob. But yeah, I had
a lot of fun doing that. And he is, you
know he is. He's a good dude, really deep down
good dude, good heart and it was fun working with him.
And yeah, got a chance to play a guy that

(40:35):
was running USC athletics. At that time, So it was
kind of like a dream scene and scenario for me
to be a part of that because I'm with you,
I love that show. When it was on, I thought
it was great, and to get up the opportunity to
be a guest star on there was great.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Man.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
So thanks for saying that. I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
Of course it was great, Jacob.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Before we let you go for our listeners, let's talk
about why it's important to go to the emergency room
or urgent care after an accident.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
Yeah, you know, I got to tell you. You know, unfortunately
I had a chance to not a chance, but I
had to be at the er today for a family member,
and I got a chance to really get a first
level of view of what happens when people come into
the emergency room. And you know, a lot of those people,
because I'm in the emergency room, are being brought in

(41:24):
by ambulance. But I had a chance to look at
a gentleman who came in and his daughter brought him in,
and you know, they asked him what happened. He said,
I was involved in a minor accident. And you know,
I'm a little bit older, and my daughter wanted me
to come and get myself checked out. And initially when
he was checked out by you know, the paramedics right

(41:44):
after the accident, they didn't think there was much going on.
But you know, as I said, you know was there
all morning. But you know, when this gentleman was brought
in and they did some tests, they were very concerned
and apparently he had his head and they actually took
him in for a ct and found, you know, something

(42:05):
on the scan, and you know, that was important. And
that's what I want to share with everybody because I
think it's really important after an accident. Sorry for the
noise in the background, I think it's really important after
an accident for you to go if you feel anything
and really get checked out because you never know. You know,
people always think that an injury is broken bones or blood,

(42:28):
but you know, after an accident, I've had the chance
to see over twenty eight years that there's a lot
of injuries that occur that are hidden injuries, and you know,
only an urgent care or an emergency room can figure
that out. And you know, I got a chance to
see firsthand that this gentleman was brought in and thank
god they were able to see it. And I'm sure
they're going to be able to address it. So I

(42:49):
just think it's important for our listeners to know that
emergency room and urgent care is not a bad thing
and get yourself checked out if you know, if there's
any signs that you need to be checked out.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Jacob and I want to just echo that, because you're
absolutely right. It's not just for you know, people of
a certain age, but for everyone. You should check yourself
out and make sure that everything's okay. Don't be afraid
because the sooner you know something, the earlier you can
detect something may just save your life. I mean, Holly
and I. I don't know if you've done this diggab,

(43:21):
but Holly and I just went and got a full
body scan and they checked everything everything, and we were,
you know, fortunate enough to work with a company called
Preneuvo and they did the full body scan. The people
were great and you can you know, you don't have
to go there, but you can do a different places.
But they were great for us, and and uh, you know,
finding out you know, what may be preventative later on

(43:45):
or early on is so key because you don't want
to look up and you have an issue that could
have been taken care of years ago. So definitely you're right.
I'm glad you said that to check check yourself out.
Don't be afraid. It may save your life. I just
had a teammate that was struggling and they found that
he had blood clots everywhere, had a stroke. Now he's

(44:05):
in the ICU, and there's some things that he probably
could have done to prevent this but didn't do. And
now he's sitting up there and we're all praying for him.
So it's a serious message, Jacob, So thank you for
bringing that up.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
For sure.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Of course my pleasure. We just want everybody to be
saved from better safe than sorry, and you know, God willing,
you know, everybody does it and protects themselves and we
share this education with you and that helps you a
family member or a friend. And we've done what we
were supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Outstanding, Jacob. Thanks you have a good rest.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Of the day.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Thank you, guys, appreciate you have a good day.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
As we continue on, some fans feel they're being priced
out of NBA games. We'll talk about that. Also, let's
talk about the Major League Baseball player that takes some
fight training during the off season not to stay in shape,
but to be ready to fight during the season.

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