August 19, 2025 • 34 mins
Tommy Pham went on a rant about how he fights in the offseason so that he can stay ready in the regular season. The guys talk about the complaints from many that 'real fans' are being priced out of sporting events.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we continue on Fred Rugan Rodney pen on
AM five to seventy LA Sports two hour program for
US today as the Dodgers get ready to go for
the second game tonight in Colorado. Rodney, before we go
any further, I know that you were talking about having
a full body scan. You and Holly had that. Yes, Okay,
(00:23):
here's the question I want to ask you. For anybody
who's considered this, are you afraid of what you might
find out and that you don't want to know?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
If?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. Yeah, absolutely, you are sometimes
terrified of what you might find out and have to
deal with it. But nowadays, Fred, there's so many things
that are preventative if you know ahead of time and
if you catch it early enough, and that could be
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anything anything brain related, in anything heart related, anything lung related,
you can find out early enough and then then it
could possibly be treatable. So, yes, as terrified as you are,
it to me would have been worse or would be
worse if I find out something a year from now
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that I could have prevented or stopped or slowed down.
And the reason I didn't slow it down is because
I didn't get myself checked out. So yeah, and it's
been you know, over the years, I've been that way
where I don't don't tell me, I don't want to know,
I don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'll deal with it when it happens.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
But it is, uh, you know, preventative maintenance have saved
so many people's lives that it definitely for not only
if it's not for you, for the loved ones in
your life, go get checked out, because it is devastating.
And I'm sure you do know people like I know
people fred that something popped up or someone got something
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or contracted something, then that man, if they just went
to the doctor, they would have known. I have a
friend that was dealing with it in issues for months
and it turned out to be bladder cancer. And yet
had he gone right away when he first saw signs
of something going on and is urine, then it could
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have been prevented and could have been dealt with at
that time. So yeah, it's difficult mindset wise to think
that I don't want to know because something bad might happen,
But it's even worse for that bad thing to happen
and you could have prevented it. So do you get
the results pretty quickly in about two weeks. Yeah, so
we're we're coming up on getting the results either later
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this week or or next week. And how's it wor
if a doctor talks to you or one of their
people there talk to you, or yeah, you have the
clinicians there. The doctors come in and they go through
your chart and everything that they've found and everything that
they've done, and nowadays with new technology, they can confine
find out anything. It's a this is a big giant
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MRI machine. If you've ever been in an MRI to
get your legs checked or your head checked or your
arms checked or whatever, it's similar to that, but you
go all the way there, all the way under and
they they scan for everything. So so yeah, they they
it's very detailed oriented as to what, you know, what
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may be going on. You may have a deficiency in
your kidneys, or your deficiency in your liver, or you were,
you know, a smoker for years and yet there's still
some residue of smoking in your lungs.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
That you can do.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Oh yeah, early onset, you know, Parkinson's, only early onset,
you know, dementia, Alzheimer's. They can find out all of
those things of what they can what they can detect.
So you know, and I've I've done this, not a
full body but I've done this since I've retired, hired
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on my on my brain because when I played, concussions
were that was like an every week thing with guys,
and it wasn't the protocol that it is today. So
we would go right back into action if you even
if you had a concussion. So one of the big
concerns was how was my brain health after I played
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and had, you know, several concussions. So I've done that
a few times as well. And yes, and then they
can detect there's some damage, not to the level where
it's concerning right now, but but there was definitely damage
to my brain which I would have not even known.
Oh yeah, yeah, they can tell.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
And then did they tell you, Okay, this occurred obviously
while you were playing. Here are some steps right now
to make sure it doesn't continue or.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You just know about it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You know about it, and then in certain cases there
are steps that you can do to to to maintain
or not allow it to continue to spread. There are
brain cranial treatments that you can go through now and
a lot of it is obviously diet, and then there
are certain medicines now that are out there. But yeah,
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you can there is a such thing called preventative maintenance.
If you find out early enough what is going on
even with your brain, that you can do steps to
kind of push off whatever might be kind of coming
around the pipe or having you have symptoms.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
For that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I just think, first of all, it's probably when you're young.
I would think a good idea to have that done.
And perhaps one day insurance will cover that kind of thing.
Because in this country, here's what we do. Here's how
it works. Nothing happens until you get sick. When you
get sick, somebody tries to fix it. That's just how
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this works. The reality is, and it's past my time obviously,
but for future generations, the way to handle it is
to prevent it before it happens. Not you got it, now,
what are we going to do? Yeah, so it would
be a different kind of treatment model. Medically, we're gonna
prevent it if I go to the.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Doctor or even naturally right you know which, which, like
you said, especially you know, especially in this country, you know,
things are very difficult to to pass in this country.
You know why you hear so many people go overseas,
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whether it be Germany or whether it be Mexico or
you know, uh, someplace in Europe and going to to
Switzerland or Sweden or one of those places to get
you know, certain treatments done stem cell you know, things
like that done because it's not approved over here. Number one,
and number two, it's certainly not covered by insurance because
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again to your point, you know, being sick is a
big time business, especially in this country. They'd rather give
you a prescription that's going to cost you a fortune
and keep you in the hospital, keep you going to
see the doctors, rather than give you some remedies that
that might prevent it all by just changing your diet.
(07:16):
So it's, uh, it's it's crazy. Like you said that,
they being sick in this country is big business.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So I believe you and I share the same doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Is that still the case? Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yes, our doctor's great. Our doctor is great. You got
a problem, Our doctor's going to fix it. I mean
it's it's pretty simple. And we've got a doctor that
if we call him right now, he will call us
back within twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is that fair to say? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
He's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
He's a great guy. I mean, you have to see him.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, if you need to see him in a moment, now,
he'll make time for you. Yeah, come in early, I'll
get there. He's old school in that regard. He really is.
He's great.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
And I was sitting here thinking, because he does do
such a good job for us and take care of us.
If we had when we were twelve years old, had
a body scan that could predict or tell us all
of these things that could happen down the road, both
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of us would have lived our lives differently. Both of
us would have we both would have done different things
to take care of ourselves. If we had known what
might happen down the road. Would you agree, Oh yeah, yeah,
most people would. Most people say, well, that's not going
to say at that age. Problem is you think, yeah, maybe,
but that's not going to happen to me. But more
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than likely you probably would change something up if you
knew that was the case. But unfortunately, you think about
yourself at twenty one years old, Fred, you think I'm
twenty one. You know somebody that's fifty years that's one
hundred years from now. Nothing's gonna happen to me. I'm
still young.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I can get back and in regardless, if it's right
in your face, if somebody's telling you that, you still
ignore it and keep moving on. And but yeah, I
think it would be beneficial for younger folks to understand
there's a any kind of issues with you. It could
be hereditary, could be something running in your family that
you find out that, oh, this is not good for me.
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It's not been good for my family. And shellfish has
been the demon for all of our family over the years.
And you know, you find that out early, then you
eliminate shelfish from your from your life. Dairy or whatever
it may be, is causing issues in your in your
you know, in your body. You find that out and
then you can eliminate that from your from your diet.
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So yeah, it's it's so essential to find out.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Just a different way of living. We live in a
different country. I mean, everybody does what they do, but
here we fix it. In other places they try to
prevent it. And that's really the difference. Yeah, that's what
it is. You got a problem, We're gonna fix it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh my god, this whole this whole area is on fire. Well,
we got to put it out. But what was the
real issue. Well, there was ten miles of brush around it,
and it caught fire. Yeah, if we'd remove the brush,
the fire wouldn't have burned down the town. But we
didn't remove the brush, so we just took care of it.
(10:23):
We put out the fire, when in reality, if you
had tried to prevent that and cleared the brush, you
may not have had the fire. Yeah, and that's kind
of how we work in our medical system here.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Great, great point, Absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
All right, so let's talk about Tommy Fam. Now. You know,
you might say Tommy Fam is a badass. He's not
adverse to getting mixing it up a little bit. And
Tommy Fam was involved in a situation. He's playing for
Pittsburgh now because at one point or another he plays
for everybody. So he's playing for Pittsburgh. Were playing Toronto
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and he walks. Well, ordinarily you don't do a backflip
when you walk, but Tommy Fam did because some other
stuff went on. Both benches empty, and after the game,
Tommy was asked, what happened here?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You go?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
One run ball game?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Close play at the play and actually it wasn't even close.
It's a shallow flat ball to left field. You you
would expect the left fielder to throw the base runner
out on that play, but the situation of the game
third base coach sinds you you gotta go. I'm nailed
out at at home by a mile. I'm going to
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the dugout. Then, you know, I hear the tough guy
with all the who rots. You know, so I'll never
start anything, but I'll be prepared to finish it. There's
a reason why you know I do all kinds of
fighting in the off season because I'm prepared to for
somebody up.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So you can take it as what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's my favorite favorite quote to hear. I'm prepared to
f somebody out. You can take it and what it is.
You don't often hear a guy say during the off season,
I do a lot of fighting to be able to
f somebody out. What you do hear them say, is
I do a lot to stay in shape, be sharp,
mobility strength. He just basically admitted, I don't even think
(12:22):
I've heard a hockey player say that during the off season,
I do a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You don't even here, Yeah, you don't even You don't.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Even hear real fighters say that.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
They said, well, yeah, because I want to be world champion,
not because I'm gonna be out with my friends and
I want to f somebody up. That's why I train
boxing and kickboxing whatever it may be. No, you know,
I did that later in my in my you know,
football career, and continued after I retired, was study jiu jitsu.
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And I was lucky enough to meet and be friends
with the a couple of members of the Gracie family
who like created Brazilian jiu jitsu, And it was all
about First of it's about stand in shape and being
flexible and and and mentally and mentally sharp and being
aware of things and your body, but also to be
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able to just diffuse situations, right, That's that's what It's
not about efing somebody up. It is about controlling a
situation that might get out of hand. And and that's
what the purpose of it is, not to have somebody up.
You remember, Tommy Famm was the guy that sucker punched
Jock Peterson back in the day over a fantasy football situation.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I believe that the Dodgers were.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
In, and I think all the teams in the West
were in, and there was a competition with each other,
and Jock made a comment about how they were I
think he was playing for the Giants at the time
that Jock made a comment that the Giants were in
last place in the division and on the fantasy football
league and Tommy Sucker punched it in the outfield before
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the game, and just he's different.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
He's one of those cats.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I'm trying to remember, Kevin. Maybe you would remember, I don't.
Didn't he get stabbed at one point?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Oh, you got me on that one.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I remember the Jock Peterson story, and that's probably there's
a reason why he's played for ten teams in twelve years.
Ye your stuff for comments like that and then smacking
Jock Peterson over fantasy football bets. There was a I
remember last I don't know if it was last year
or two years ago. People were like, the Dodgers needs
to trade for that guy. They need that guy in
the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I was like, do you.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Do you really? Do you really?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
It's just gonna bring unwanted attention to you. You don't
need a guy like that.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
He was.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I am surprised that he's been He's still around. He's
been on a lot of teams.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
He was playing for the Padres. It was in twenty twenty.
It happened outside a strip club. Pacer show Girls International.
What is the name again, Fred of the show the
script Pacer show Girls International.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
He was stabbed in the back.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I thought he was stabbed.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
He's a badass, hebb know the way, you know the
old saying, the the guy that talks like that usually
probably is the weakest, the loudest in the room is
the weakest in the room.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Quote from Denzel Washington, American gangster.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, he's Tommy fam you know, push comes to shove,
he meets the right guy. Those guys that talk like
that usually end up on the wrong side. He don't
have to brag about it, frid So you think he's
all talk. I won't say all talk, but not as
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I don't think he's as gangster as he's trying to
make it out to be. He's trying to you know,
he's trying to intimidate people by his talk. Hey, I
fight in the off season, so I can somebody. Nobody
says that. Who says that that can really fight and
really get into a scuffle and protect themselves or really
handle themselves in a situation.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You don't have to let people know nobody. I mean,
real guys don't say that. They don't, they don't. I'm
boxing train in the off season, so I can f
somebody up.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
No, no, come on, come on, man.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I told you about the time I met this guy.
He was a well known comedian. Every time he would
introduce himself to somebody, he goes, Hi, I'm a comedian,
And I thought, well, if you're a comedian, why do
you have to tell people? Why wouldn't you just make money.
I'm not gonna say. I am not going to say, uh,
is it too expensive to go to an NBA game?
(17:02):
Let's figure that out.
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Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yes, that's right, it is Tuesday, Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan.
You know, Fred, I'm kind of flipping around during the
break watching the Brewers and Cubs play, and when it's
going good is going good? And when it's you know,
we've said this with the Dodgers of their up and
down season, they no lead is safe. Know there's Cubbies
were up five to nothing in this game, five to
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nothing and kind of rolling through cruising. But the game,
I'm sure for them, felt long and just chipping away.
Is Milwaukee just chipping away? Is Milwaukee five to two,
five to three, Now it's six to four in the seven.
It's just you when things are going good for you,
like Milwaukee right now, it doesn't matter that they're down
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five to nothing, and it just it's just a matter
of time. You feel like the bat's gonna get going.
And for the Cubs, who kind of struggling a little bit, now,
it's like we got to keep building on this lead.
Otherwise they're coming. They're coming. And that's what we talked
about with the Dodgers doing that stretch before the padres.
It's like they could be up five nothing, but all
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of a sudden, you see these innings go. It's five
to two, five to three. Now it's tied, and then
they went in a walk off. And that's kind of
what happened yesterday, and it happened, you know, against Toronto.
It's happened with the Dodgers so often that they're up
and get up early. Then here comes inning six, here
comes inning seven, and now it's a one run game,
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and now it gets tight. So hopefully it can get
over that. You thought that was gonna happen after the
Padres sweep. But man, they got to get back on
track today, Fred, Yeah, they really do. They absolutely need
to get back on track, all right. Talks to NBA.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
So Lakers will play at Madison Square Garden against the
Knicks and this year, and this pretty much applies to
every NBA game, and people are pretty upset once the
schedule was announced because ticket prices for that game. So
this is worst case at Madison Square Garden four hundred
and seventy four dollars.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
What, oh, that's for? What that's for? Like the center court?
Where's that front?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That's work? Like lower level, that's worse seat in the house.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
The average, the average for all sections was eleven hundred
and thirty eight dollars. Eleven hundred and thirty eight dollars.
That was the average price for all the.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Lakers Knicks game. The average price was eleven hundred dollars.
The average and you know why two reasons. First, there
is a special part of this that may be lebron
final game at Madison Square Garden, and people are saying,
if it is, they want to be there to see
it if in fact, he doesn't return the following year,
(20:09):
all right, so that's a possibility. It probably has been
marketed that way too, by the Knicks. Could see Lebron's
last game at the garden his favorite place to play,
right O, Comma the comma Maybe little print, little tiny print,
very tiny print, very tiny print.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
The other side of it is tickets are expensive, period.
They are expensive period. And I'm sure Laker tickets are
pretty pricey. People have said that in the past, and
good Clipper tickets are pricey. And what you have is
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the average fan. The real fan can't afford to go.
That's what you always hear, the real fans can't afford it.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Well, wait, so if you if you're what does that
mean exactly what I'm gonna talking about?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, good? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So if you can afford it, you're not a real fan.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, that's what That's what it seems like they're saying, right, Oh,
you so you can't afford to go? Yes, so you're
not a real fan because a real fan couldn't afford
to go. And that's always the logic. You know, the
real fans sit away at the top, but those people
down there, yes, they don't care. Look to those people
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down there, Yes, the real fans are up in the
seven hundred level, whatever level is in that particular stadium.
Those are real fans up there.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
If you know what, we should be down there because
we're the real fans. Maybe the people down there are
real fans too. Yeah, maybe they are fans just like you.
But they can afford to sit there, which everyone cannot.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
But look at it like over.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Those years that he was there. You don't think Jack
Nicholson was a real fan of the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
No, he wasn't. He couldn't be a real fan because
real fans set up at the top. Yeah, not court side, right,
But then look at it like this. If you are
a real fan inside Crypto dot Com arena or whatever
arena around the country, you know what you would hear, right,
Oh you went. Well, let me tell you something. The
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real fans can't afford it. They don't even.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Get to go.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So if you didn't afford it and go, you're not
a real fan either because I can't afford to go
and I am, so that means the real fans don't
get in. But if you get in and you're at
the top, then the people sitting courtside are not real fans.
Or at Dodgers Stadium, if you're at the top, if
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you're in the loge, those people down there in the
field level, they're not real fans.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
No, they can't be.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
They can't be because they're down there. Here's the thing
you have to understand. If you go to a professional
sporting event, and I would guess Rodney tickets are a
bit more expensive now than when you played. Is that fair?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Okay, so if you go, you are making a decision
to use your disposable income for entertainment purposes. You could
use that income to go to Disneyland, take four people
to Disneyland, and for that basically now you have to
mortgage your house. Yes or no, it's very expensive. You
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could use that income to take your family and stay
two days at the beach. You could take use that
income to do almost anything. In Southern California, you are
spending your disposable income on entertainment, and when you go
to a sporting event that is considered entertainment. If Taylor
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Swift is performing, you could use your disposable income to
go to Taylor Swift. But would the argument be, well,
the people that actually spent the money and it was
expensive to go to Taylor Swift, they're not actually fans
of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
No, they're not real Swifties.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Right, because the real fans couldn't afford to go. See
in life, we have choices. You always have a choice,
and pretty much you can do whatever you want. But
you can't do everything you want. So you have to
make choices. You have to prioritize, you have to decide
what's important to you and then you save or do
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whatever you must do to be able to afford that.
So when people say the real fans don't get to go,
that's not true. It's not true. Some people go more
than others, some people have more money than others, and
it is expensive. That's a conversation we can have. It's
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very expensive. It's hard to be able to afford to
go to games. And it doesn't matter the sport. It
really doesn't matter. A family for a Dodger stadium, in
that stadium, it's got to be cheaper than the NBA,
but it's still gonna cost you. I mean, that's just true.
That's the cost of doing business in today's world.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, and people, you know, work and the money scales
is a scale, right, People on certain levels and do
certain things. But that does not determine how big a
fan you are, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
We all grow up and and most people you know,
in this kind of well around the world have a
favorite team. You know, they're they're you know, there are
obviously those that I don't want to have anything to
do with sports and I hate sports and blah blah blah.
But the majority of people have a favorite team that
they root for, and it could be a different sport,
may not always be football, or may not always be baseball,
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but it's they have a team and they root for
that team. So as you get older and you get
a job, and that job, you know, and you're very
successful at it, and that job happens to be a
job that pays you a lot of money, do you
become less of a fan because you made more than
some of your buddies growing up that were with you
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as they were fans of the Lakers growing up too,
and yet you get season tickets and they get to
go to three games a year, and they're bigger fans
than you because you're able to afford the season tickets.
It doesn't make sense when people say that.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
The owners.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Some of these owners were fans before they bought the teams.
You know, Bob Kraft was sitting up in the you
talk about the section up there at the old Gillette
Stadium back in the day, he was sitting way up top.
He tells that story all the time. He was a
fan of the Patriots and one day I'm gonna buy
this team, and he ended up buying the team. He
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was a fan then and he's still a fan. He
just happened to be the owner.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
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Speaker 8 (27:45):
App Rodney Pete, fred Rogan, Come on, Freddy, bring us home,
Bring us home, Freddy, all.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Right, quickly before we get out of here. So the
meeting last night reported and the Times other outlets, Mookie
Betts apparently requested a meeting with Andrew Friedman and Dave
Roberts after the game Taylor Oscar Hernandez struggled in right field,
and you could make the case that because of what
he did out.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
There, they lost.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I mean, they didn't get enough runs, but defensively it
was a real problem. So the report was that MOOKI
had requested a meeting with Andrew Friedman and Dave Roberts. Well,
David Bettsay was on earlier and.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
He talked about it.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
There's a headline, there's a story written that there was
a meeting between Mookie Bets, Dave Roberts and Andrew Friedman.
We don't know what was said in that office. We
don't know what if it was just a thank you,
something other than moving back to right field. Now, we
all know that's something that might happen. I don't know
(28:51):
when it will happen, but it's not happening tonight because
the Dodgers don't have Tommy Edmond, they don't have Key
k Hernandez. I can envision the Dogs considering it more
in September, once they get those two guys back together
on the roster and healthy. Right now, they would not
be helping themselves by moving Mookie Beds to right field.
(29:13):
But like I said, it was a little irresponsible to
right There was a meeting between Dave Roberts, Mookie Bets,
and Andrew Friedman without telling us and without knowing what
the meeting was all about.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
All right, Well, that's basically aside from the part about
being irresponsible, that's basically what Rodney said when we came
on the air today. The feeling is, well, of course
they were talking about moving them back to right field. Rodney,
I think you nailed it, and Dave confirmed it. We
just don't know what was said in that meeting. No
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we don't, and it very well may turn out that
that was the discussion. But right now, to speculate that
that was what they were talking about We really don't know.
It could be a variety of different things. And until
one of them comes out and says, yeah, this was
what we talked about, and this is how we're going
to move forward, then we want to and I kind
of like to reserve my right to comment on it
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until we know and hear from Dave, Mookie or Andrew. Yeah, basically,
and perhaps we will learn more about that later on
this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Can I ask you a question before we get out
of here.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Sure, you know on the basis of challenge, Look, you're
you're a big proponent of automated strike zone and bringing
that in and I'm starting to lean that way myself. Sure,
you know, we watch a lot of baseball this this
time of year, and you know, you see and then
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you know the way the challenge system works with baldon strikes.
The way it worked in pre season and in the
minor and spring training was, you know, the hitter, the catcher,
and the pitcher got to challenge a call, right, That's
how it worked. And if you thought it was a stroke,
you got to challenge it. If you're the hitter, you
thought it was a strike, and you could challenge it
as a catcher. A lot of folks didn't want the
(31:06):
picture to be involved in that because the picture thinks
everything is a strike. But do you think that they
should eliminate the replay for plays in the field, plays
at second base, a steal or an out at first?
Whether somebody should challenge should they be allowed Someone was
(31:28):
saying this to me the other day. Why are they
allowed to watch a video to see if they want
to challenge? It should be a gut reaction and you
go off the player or what you see before you
actually challenge a call. They're watching a video to see
if a guy is safe, and then they go challenge.
Why isn't it just organic and human to be able
to challenge. That's a very good point when you think
(31:53):
about it. That is a very good point. If you've
got to challenge.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
When we first started this challenge, shell challenge. If you're right,
you retain your challenge.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
If you're wrong, you lose your challenge. I don't really
know why they let them look at the video. Now
they have to do it quickly, they have to do
it quickly. But I think you make a valid point.
If you've got a challenge, challenge it right now. Go
look and see before you challenge it exactly right. Oh okay,
I think he missed a challenge. And sometimes when they challenge,
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it still doesn't mean the guy missed that. I mean
sometimes the challenge is wrong. There was a play last
night in San Diego, a home run. Sandra Bulgarts hit
a home run and they claim fan interference and the
fan never touched the ball, never touch the ball, and
they called fan interference after they challenged. It made no sense.
It was awful. I don't know what they were looking
at back. I remember that play.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I saw that play too, and I saw some folks
discussing that play and they were reading the actual rule.
The rule states that they don't the fan doesn't necessarily
have to touched the ball in order for it to
be interference. They waved their hands in the field of
play in front of a player that is also considered
fan in appearance, so they can block the vision. They
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can block the vision of a player, they could distract
the player in a certain way. But if they reach
over into the field of play, whether they touch it
or not, it's fan interference. Yeah, but I think the
ball was in the crowd. That was the guy reached over.
He reached to catch.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Now he reached into over the fence to try to
catch it, and I mean it went clearly went out
of the glove, in and out of the glove of
I don't forget who the Giants title was. Yeah, Ramos,
they went in and out of his glove. But he
played it off right, like, blamed it on the fan
fan didn't touch it and then got the call. Yeah,
he got the call. But but that's the letter of
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the rule is the fan does not have to touch
the ball, but if they are in the field of play,
then it is I will agree with you and your
friend who brought it up. You should be able to chase.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
You should not be able to look at the video
and then challenge.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Make your decision. Make your decision. You believe he was safe,
and you better trust your guy.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
He slides into second. He turns around, challenge that challenge.
I was safe. Better be right.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I think you're right, Ronnie. Thank you, Kevin, appreciate it
very much. Rodney. We do it again tomorrow.
All right, we continue on Fred Rugan Rodney pen on
AM five to seventy LA Sports two hour program for
US today as the Dodgers get ready to go for
the second game tonight in Colorado. Rodney, before we go
any further, I know that you were talking about having
a full body scan. You and Holly had that. Yes, Okay,
(00:23):
here's the question I want to ask you. For anybody
who's considered this, are you afraid of what you might
find out and that you don't want to know?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
If?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. Yeah, absolutely, you are sometimes
terrified of what you might find out and have to
deal with it. But nowadays, Fred, there's so many things
that are preventative if you know ahead of time and
if you catch it early enough, and that could be
(00:56):
anything anything brain related, in anything heart related, anything lung related,
you can find out early enough and then then it
could possibly be treatable. So, yes, as terrified as you are,
it to me would have been worse or would be
worse if I find out something a year from now
(01:17):
that I could have prevented or stopped or slowed down.
And the reason I didn't slow it down is because
I didn't get myself checked out. So yeah, and it's
been you know, over the years, I've been that way
where I don't don't tell me, I don't want to know,
I don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'll deal with it when it happens.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
But it is, uh, you know, preventative maintenance have saved
so many people's lives that it definitely for not only
if it's not for you, for the loved ones in
your life, go get checked out, because it is devastating.
And I'm sure you do know people like I know
people fred that something popped up or someone got something
(01:58):
or contracted something, then that man, if they just went
to the doctor, they would have known. I have a
friend that was dealing with it in issues for months
and it turned out to be bladder cancer. And yet
had he gone right away when he first saw signs
of something going on and is urine, then it could
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have been prevented and could have been dealt with at
that time. So yeah, it's difficult mindset wise to think
that I don't want to know because something bad might happen,
But it's even worse for that bad thing to happen
and you could have prevented it. So do you get
the results pretty quickly in about two weeks. Yeah, so
we're we're coming up on getting the results either later
(02:40):
this week or or next week. And how's it wor
if a doctor talks to you or one of their
people there talk to you, or yeah, you have the
clinicians there. The doctors come in and they go through
your chart and everything that they've found and everything that
they've done, and nowadays with new technology, they can confine
find out anything. It's a this is a big giant
(03:03):
MRI machine. If you've ever been in an MRI to
get your legs checked or your head checked or your
arms checked or whatever, it's similar to that, but you
go all the way there, all the way under and
they they scan for everything. So so yeah, they they
it's very detailed oriented as to what, you know, what
(03:24):
may be going on. You may have a deficiency in
your kidneys, or your deficiency in your liver, or you were,
you know, a smoker for years and yet there's still
some residue of smoking in your lungs.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
That you can do.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Oh yeah, early onset, you know, Parkinson's, only early onset,
you know, dementia, Alzheimer's. They can find out all of
those things of what they can what they can detect.
So you know, and I've I've done this, not a
full body but I've done this since I've retired, hired
(04:00):
on my on my brain because when I played, concussions
were that was like an every week thing with guys,
and it wasn't the protocol that it is today. So
we would go right back into action if you even
if you had a concussion. So one of the big
concerns was how was my brain health after I played
(04:20):
and had, you know, several concussions. So I've done that
a few times as well. And yes, and then they
can detect there's some damage, not to the level where
it's concerning right now, but but there was definitely damage
to my brain which I would have not even known.
Oh yeah, yeah, they can tell.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
And then did they tell you, Okay, this occurred obviously
while you were playing. Here are some steps right now
to make sure it doesn't continue or.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You just know about it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You know about it, and then in certain cases there
are steps that you can do to to to maintain
or not allow it to continue to spread. There are
brain cranial treatments that you can go through now and
a lot of it is obviously diet, and then there
are certain medicines now that are out there. But yeah,
(05:11):
you can there is a such thing called preventative maintenance.
If you find out early enough what is going on
even with your brain, that you can do steps to
kind of push off whatever might be kind of coming
around the pipe or having you have symptoms.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
For that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I just think, first of all, it's probably when you're young.
I would think a good idea to have that done.
And perhaps one day insurance will cover that kind of thing.
Because in this country, here's what we do. Here's how
it works. Nothing happens until you get sick. When you
get sick, somebody tries to fix it. That's just how
(05:50):
this works. The reality is, and it's past my time obviously,
but for future generations, the way to handle it is
to prevent it before it happens. Not you got it, now,
what are we going to do? Yeah, so it would
be a different kind of treatment model. Medically, we're gonna
prevent it if I go to the.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Doctor or even naturally right you know which, which, like
you said, especially you know, especially in this country, you know,
things are very difficult to to pass in this country.
You know why you hear so many people go overseas,
(06:31):
whether it be Germany or whether it be Mexico or
you know, uh, someplace in Europe and going to to
Switzerland or Sweden or one of those places to get
you know, certain treatments done stem cell you know, things
like that done because it's not approved over here. Number one,
and number two, it's certainly not covered by insurance because
(06:53):
again to your point, you know, being sick is a
big time business, especially in this country. They'd rather give
you a prescription that's going to cost you a fortune
and keep you in the hospital, keep you going to
see the doctors, rather than give you some remedies that
that might prevent it all by just changing your diet.
(07:16):
So it's, uh, it's it's crazy. Like you said that,
they being sick in this country is big business.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So I believe you and I share the same doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Is that still the case? Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yes, our doctor's great. Our doctor is great. You got
a problem, Our doctor's going to fix it. I mean
it's it's pretty simple. And we've got a doctor that
if we call him right now, he will call us
back within twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is that fair to say? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
He's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
He's a great guy. I mean, you have to see him.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, if you need to see him in a moment, now,
he'll make time for you. Yeah, come in early, I'll
get there. He's old school in that regard. He really is.
He's great.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
And I was sitting here thinking, because he does do
such a good job for us and take care of us.
If we had when we were twelve years old, had
a body scan that could predict or tell us all
of these things that could happen down the road, both
(08:19):
of us would have lived our lives differently. Both of
us would have we both would have done different things
to take care of ourselves. If we had known what
might happen down the road. Would you agree, Oh yeah, yeah,
most people would. Most people say, well, that's not going
to say at that age. Problem is you think, yeah, maybe,
but that's not going to happen to me. But more
(08:42):
than likely you probably would change something up if you
knew that was the case. But unfortunately, you think about
yourself at twenty one years old, Fred, you think I'm
twenty one. You know somebody that's fifty years that's one
hundred years from now. Nothing's gonna happen to me. I'm
still young.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I can get back and in regardless, if it's right
in your face, if somebody's telling you that, you still
ignore it and keep moving on. And but yeah, I
think it would be beneficial for younger folks to understand
there's a any kind of issues with you. It could
be hereditary, could be something running in your family that
you find out that, oh, this is not good for me.
(09:22):
It's not been good for my family. And shellfish has
been the demon for all of our family over the years.
And you know, you find that out early, then you
eliminate shelfish from your from your life. Dairy or whatever
it may be, is causing issues in your in your
you know, in your body. You find that out and
then you can eliminate that from your from your diet.
(09:43):
So yeah, it's it's so essential to find out.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Just a different way of living. We live in a
different country. I mean, everybody does what they do, but
here we fix it. In other places they try to
prevent it. And that's really the difference. Yeah, that's what
it is. You got a problem, We're gonna fix it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh my god, this whole this whole area is on fire. Well,
we got to put it out. But what was the
real issue. Well, there was ten miles of brush around it,
and it caught fire. Yeah, if we'd remove the brush,
the fire wouldn't have burned down the town. But we
didn't remove the brush, so we just took care of it.
(10:23):
We put out the fire, when in reality, if you
had tried to prevent that and cleared the brush, you
may not have had the fire. Yeah, and that's kind
of how we work in our medical system here.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Great, great point, Absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
All right, so let's talk about Tommy Fam. Now. You know,
you might say Tommy Fam is a badass. He's not
adverse to getting mixing it up a little bit. And
Tommy Fam was involved in a situation. He's playing for
Pittsburgh now because at one point or another he plays
for everybody. So he's playing for Pittsburgh. Were playing Toronto
(10:58):
and he walks. Well, ordinarily you don't do a backflip
when you walk, but Tommy Fam did because some other
stuff went on. Both benches empty, and after the game,
Tommy was asked, what happened here?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You go?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
One run ball game?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Close play at the play and actually it wasn't even close.
It's a shallow flat ball to left field. You you
would expect the left fielder to throw the base runner
out on that play, but the situation of the game
third base coach sinds you you gotta go. I'm nailed
out at at home by a mile. I'm going to
(11:39):
the dugout. Then, you know, I hear the tough guy
with all the who rots. You know, so I'll never
start anything, but I'll be prepared to finish it. There's
a reason why you know I do all kinds of
fighting in the off season because I'm prepared to for
somebody up.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So you can take it as what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's my favorite favorite quote to hear. I'm prepared to
f somebody out. You can take it and what it is.
You don't often hear a guy say during the off season,
I do a lot of fighting to be able to
f somebody out. What you do hear them say, is
I do a lot to stay in shape, be sharp,
mobility strength. He just basically admitted, I don't even think
(12:22):
I've heard a hockey player say that during the off season,
I do a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You don't even here, Yeah, you don't even You don't.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Even hear real fighters say that.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
They said, well, yeah, because I want to be world champion,
not because I'm gonna be out with my friends and
I want to f somebody up. That's why I train
boxing and kickboxing whatever it may be. No, you know,
I did that later in my in my you know,
football career, and continued after I retired, was study jiu jitsu.
(12:56):
And I was lucky enough to meet and be friends
with the a couple of members of the Gracie family
who like created Brazilian jiu jitsu, And it was all
about First of it's about stand in shape and being
flexible and and and mentally and mentally sharp and being
aware of things and your body, but also to be
(13:16):
able to just diffuse situations, right, That's that's what It's
not about efing somebody up. It is about controlling a
situation that might get out of hand. And and that's
what the purpose of it is, not to have somebody up.
You remember, Tommy Famm was the guy that sucker punched
Jock Peterson back in the day over a fantasy football situation.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I believe that the Dodgers were.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
In, and I think all the teams in the West
were in, and there was a competition with each other,
and Jock made a comment about how they were I
think he was playing for the Giants at the time
that Jock made a comment that the Giants were in
last place in the division and on the fantasy football
league and Tommy Sucker punched it in the outfield before
(14:07):
the game, and just he's different.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
He's one of those cats.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I'm trying to remember, Kevin. Maybe you would remember, I don't.
Didn't he get stabbed at one point?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Oh, you got me on that one.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I remember the Jock Peterson story, and that's probably there's
a reason why he's played for ten teams in twelve years.
Ye your stuff for comments like that and then smacking
Jock Peterson over fantasy football bets. There was a I
remember last I don't know if it was last year
or two years ago. People were like, the Dodgers needs
to trade for that guy. They need that guy in
the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I was like, do you.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Do you really? Do you really?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
It's just gonna bring unwanted attention to you. You don't
need a guy like that.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
He was.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I am surprised that he's been He's still around. He's
been on a lot of teams.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
He was playing for the Padres. It was in twenty twenty.
It happened outside a strip club. Pacer show Girls International.
What is the name again, Fred of the show the
script Pacer show Girls International.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
He was stabbed in the back.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I thought he was stabbed.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
He's a badass, hebb know the way, you know the
old saying, the the guy that talks like that usually
probably is the weakest, the loudest in the room is
the weakest in the room.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Quote from Denzel Washington, American gangster.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, he's Tommy fam you know, push comes to shove,
he meets the right guy. Those guys that talk like
that usually end up on the wrong side. He don't
have to brag about it, frid So you think he's
all talk. I won't say all talk, but not as
(15:55):
I don't think he's as gangster as he's trying to
make it out to be. He's trying to you know,
he's trying to intimidate people by his talk. Hey, I
fight in the off season, so I can somebody. Nobody
says that. Who says that that can really fight and
really get into a scuffle and protect themselves or really
handle themselves in a situation.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You don't have to let people know nobody. I mean,
real guys don't say that. They don't, they don't. I'm
boxing train in the off season, so I can f
somebody up.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
No, no, come on, come on, man.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I told you about the time I met this guy.
He was a well known comedian. Every time he would
introduce himself to somebody, he goes, Hi, I'm a comedian,
And I thought, well, if you're a comedian, why do
you have to tell people? Why wouldn't you just make money.
I'm not gonna say. I am not going to say, uh,
is it too expensive to go to an NBA game?
(17:02):
Let's figure that out.
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Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yes, that's right, it is Tuesday, Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan.
You know, Fred, I'm kind of flipping around during the
break watching the Brewers and Cubs play, and when it's
going good is going good? And when it's you know,
we've said this with the Dodgers of their up and
down season, they no lead is safe. Know there's Cubbies
were up five to nothing in this game, five to
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nothing and kind of rolling through cruising. But the game,
I'm sure for them, felt long and just chipping away.
Is Milwaukee just chipping away? Is Milwaukee five to two,
five to three, Now it's six to four in the seven.
It's just you when things are going good for you,
like Milwaukee right now, it doesn't matter that they're down
(18:06):
five to nothing, and it just it's just a matter
of time. You feel like the bat's gonna get going.
And for the Cubs, who kind of struggling a little bit, now,
it's like we got to keep building on this lead.
Otherwise they're coming. They're coming. And that's what we talked
about with the Dodgers doing that stretch before the padres.
It's like they could be up five nothing, but all
(18:27):
of a sudden, you see these innings go. It's five
to two, five to three. Now it's tied, and then
they went in a walk off. And that's kind of
what happened yesterday, and it happened, you know, against Toronto.
It's happened with the Dodgers so often that they're up
and get up early. Then here comes inning six, here
comes inning seven, and now it's a one run game,
(18:52):
and now it gets tight. So hopefully it can get
over that. You thought that was gonna happen after the
Padres sweep. But man, they got to get back on
track today, Fred, Yeah, they really do. They absolutely need
to get back on track, all right. Talks to NBA.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
So Lakers will play at Madison Square Garden against the
Knicks and this year, and this pretty much applies to
every NBA game, and people are pretty upset once the
schedule was announced because ticket prices for that game. So
this is worst case at Madison Square Garden four hundred
and seventy four dollars.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
What, oh, that's for? What that's for? Like the center court?
Where's that front?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That's work? Like lower level, that's worse seat in the house.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
The average, the average for all sections was eleven hundred
and thirty eight dollars. Eleven hundred and thirty eight dollars.
That was the average price for all the.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Lakers Knicks game. The average price was eleven hundred dollars.
The average and you know why two reasons. First, there
is a special part of this that may be lebron
final game at Madison Square Garden, and people are saying,
if it is, they want to be there to see
it if in fact, he doesn't return the following year,
(20:09):
all right, so that's a possibility. It probably has been
marketed that way too, by the Knicks. Could see Lebron's
last game at the garden his favorite place to play,
right O, Comma the comma Maybe little print, little tiny print,
very tiny print, very tiny print.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
The other side of it is tickets are expensive, period.
They are expensive period. And I'm sure Laker tickets are
pretty pricey. People have said that in the past, and
good Clipper tickets are pricey. And what you have is
(20:48):
the average fan. The real fan can't afford to go.
That's what you always hear, the real fans can't afford it.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Well, wait, so if you if you're what does that
mean exactly what I'm gonna talking about?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, good? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So if you can afford it, you're not a real fan.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, that's what That's what it seems like they're saying, right, Oh,
you so you can't afford to go? Yes, so you're
not a real fan because a real fan couldn't afford
to go. And that's always the logic. You know, the
real fans sit away at the top, but those people
down there, yes, they don't care. Look to those people
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down there, Yes, the real fans are up in the
seven hundred level, whatever level is in that particular stadium.
Those are real fans up there.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
If you know what, we should be down there because
we're the real fans. Maybe the people down there are
real fans too. Yeah, maybe they are fans just like you.
But they can afford to sit there, which everyone cannot.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
But look at it like over.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Those years that he was there. You don't think Jack
Nicholson was a real fan of the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
No, he wasn't. He couldn't be a real fan because
real fans set up at the top. Yeah, not court side, right,
But then look at it like this. If you are
a real fan inside Crypto dot Com arena or whatever
arena around the country, you know what you would hear, right,
Oh you went. Well, let me tell you something. The
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real fans can't afford it. They don't even.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Get to go.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So if you didn't afford it and go, you're not
a real fan either because I can't afford to go
and I am, so that means the real fans don't
get in. But if you get in and you're at
the top, then the people sitting courtside are not real fans.
Or at Dodgers Stadium, if you're at the top, if
(22:47):
you're in the loge, those people down there in the
field level, they're not real fans.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
No, they can't be.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
They can't be because they're down there. Here's the thing
you have to understand. If you go to a professional
sporting event, and I would guess Rodney tickets are a
bit more expensive now than when you played. Is that fair?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Okay, so if you go, you are making a decision
to use your disposable income for entertainment purposes. You could
use that income to go to Disneyland, take four people
to Disneyland, and for that basically now you have to
mortgage your house. Yes or no, it's very expensive. You
(23:33):
could use that income to take your family and stay
two days at the beach. You could take use that
income to do almost anything. In Southern California, you are
spending your disposable income on entertainment, and when you go
to a sporting event that is considered entertainment. If Taylor
(23:56):
Swift is performing, you could use your disposable income to
go to Taylor Swift. But would the argument be, well,
the people that actually spent the money and it was
expensive to go to Taylor Swift, they're not actually fans
of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
No, they're not real Swifties.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Right, because the real fans couldn't afford to go. See
in life, we have choices. You always have a choice,
and pretty much you can do whatever you want. But
you can't do everything you want. So you have to
make choices. You have to prioritize, you have to decide
what's important to you and then you save or do
(24:41):
whatever you must do to be able to afford that.
So when people say the real fans don't get to go,
that's not true. It's not true. Some people go more
than others, some people have more money than others, and
it is expensive. That's a conversation we can have. It's
(25:02):
very expensive. It's hard to be able to afford to
go to games. And it doesn't matter the sport. It
really doesn't matter. A family for a Dodger stadium, in
that stadium, it's got to be cheaper than the NBA,
but it's still gonna cost you. I mean, that's just true.
That's the cost of doing business in today's world.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, and people, you know, work and the money scales
is a scale, right, People on certain levels and do
certain things. But that does not determine how big a
fan you are, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
We all grow up and and most people you know,
in this kind of well around the world have a
favorite team. You know, they're they're you know, there are
obviously those that I don't want to have anything to
do with sports and I hate sports and blah blah blah.
But the majority of people have a favorite team that
they root for, and it could be a different sport,
may not always be football, or may not always be baseball,
(26:01):
but it's they have a team and they root for
that team. So as you get older and you get
a job, and that job, you know, and you're very
successful at it, and that job happens to be a
job that pays you a lot of money, do you
become less of a fan because you made more than
some of your buddies growing up that were with you
(26:21):
as they were fans of the Lakers growing up too,
and yet you get season tickets and they get to
go to three games a year, and they're bigger fans
than you because you're able to afford the season tickets.
It doesn't make sense when people say that.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
The owners.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Some of these owners were fans before they bought the teams.
You know, Bob Kraft was sitting up in the you
talk about the section up there at the old Gillette
Stadium back in the day, he was sitting way up top.
He tells that story all the time. He was a
fan of the Patriots and one day I'm gonna buy
this team, and he ended up buying the team. He
(27:00):
was a fan then and he's still a fan. He
just happened to be the owner.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Now, just a two.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Hours show for us. We save a little time at
the end when we come back. If you didn't hear
David Vassay talking about what that meeting with Mookie could
have been in Denver last night, we're gonna play that
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Speaker 1 (27:57):
Right, quickly before we get out of here. So the
meeting last night reported and the Times other outlets, Mookie
Betts apparently requested a meeting with Andrew Friedman and Dave
Roberts after the game Taylor Oscar Hernandez struggled in right field,
and you could make the case that because of what
he did out.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
There, they lost.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I mean, they didn't get enough runs, but defensively it
was a real problem. So the report was that MOOKI
had requested a meeting with Andrew Friedman and Dave Roberts. Well,
David Bettsay was on earlier and.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
He talked about it.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
There's a headline, there's a story written that there was
a meeting between Mookie Bets, Dave Roberts and Andrew Friedman.
We don't know what was said in that office. We
don't know what if it was just a thank you,
something other than moving back to right field. Now, we
all know that's something that might happen. I don't know
(28:51):
when it will happen, but it's not happening tonight because
the Dodgers don't have Tommy Edmond, they don't have Key
k Hernandez. I can envision the Dogs considering it more
in September, once they get those two guys back together
on the roster and healthy. Right now, they would not
be helping themselves by moving Mookie Beds to right field.
(29:13):
But like I said, it was a little irresponsible to
right There was a meeting between Dave Roberts, Mookie Bets,
and Andrew Friedman without telling us and without knowing what
the meeting was all about.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
All right, Well, that's basically aside from the part about
being irresponsible, that's basically what Rodney said when we came
on the air today. The feeling is, well, of course
they were talking about moving them back to right field. Rodney,
I think you nailed it, and Dave confirmed it. We
just don't know what was said in that meeting. No
(29:50):
we don't, and it very well may turn out that
that was the discussion. But right now, to speculate that
that was what they were talking about We really don't know.
It could be a variety of different things. And until
one of them comes out and says, yeah, this was
what we talked about, and this is how we're going
to move forward, then we want to and I kind
of like to reserve my right to comment on it
(30:12):
until we know and hear from Dave, Mookie or Andrew. Yeah, basically,
and perhaps we will learn more about that later on
this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Can I ask you a question before we get out
of here.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Sure, you know on the basis of challenge, Look, you're
you're a big proponent of automated strike zone and bringing
that in and I'm starting to lean that way myself. Sure,
you know, we watch a lot of baseball this this
time of year, and you know, you see and then
(30:44):
you know the way the challenge system works with baldon strikes.
The way it worked in pre season and in the
minor and spring training was, you know, the hitter, the catcher,
and the pitcher got to challenge a call, right, That's
how it worked. And if you thought it was a stroke,
you got to challenge it. If you're the hitter, you
thought it was a strike, and you could challenge it
as a catcher. A lot of folks didn't want the
(31:06):
picture to be involved in that because the picture thinks
everything is a strike. But do you think that they
should eliminate the replay for plays in the field, plays
at second base, a steal or an out at first?
Whether somebody should challenge should they be allowed Someone was
(31:28):
saying this to me the other day. Why are they
allowed to watch a video to see if they want
to challenge? It should be a gut reaction and you
go off the player or what you see before you
actually challenge a call. They're watching a video to see
if a guy is safe, and then they go challenge.
Why isn't it just organic and human to be able
to challenge. That's a very good point when you think
(31:53):
about it. That is a very good point. If you've
got to challenge.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
When we first started this challenge, shell challenge. If you're right,
you retain your challenge.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
If you're wrong, you lose your challenge. I don't really
know why they let them look at the video. Now
they have to do it quickly, they have to do
it quickly. But I think you make a valid point.
If you've got a challenge, challenge it right now. Go
look and see before you challenge it exactly right. Oh okay,
I think he missed a challenge. And sometimes when they challenge,
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it still doesn't mean the guy missed that. I mean
sometimes the challenge is wrong. There was a play last
night in San Diego, a home run. Sandra Bulgarts hit
a home run and they claim fan interference and the
fan never touched the ball, never touch the ball, and
they called fan interference after they challenged. It made no sense.
It was awful. I don't know what they were looking
at back. I remember that play.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I saw that play too, and I saw some folks
discussing that play and they were reading the actual rule.
The rule states that they don't the fan doesn't necessarily
have to touched the ball in order for it to
be interference. They waved their hands in the field of
play in front of a player that is also considered
fan in appearance, so they can block the vision. They
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can block the vision of a player, they could distract
the player in a certain way. But if they reach
over into the field of play, whether they touch it
or not, it's fan interference. Yeah, but I think the
ball was in the crowd. That was the guy reached over.
He reached to catch.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Now he reached into over the fence to try to
catch it, and I mean it went clearly went out
of the glove, in and out of the glove of
I don't forget who the Giants title was. Yeah, Ramos,
they went in and out of his glove. But he
played it off right, like, blamed it on the fan
fan didn't touch it and then got the call. Yeah,
he got the call. But but that's the letter of
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the rule is the fan does not have to touch
the ball, but if they are in the field of play,
then it is I will agree with you and your
friend who brought it up. You should be able to chase.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
You should not be able to look at the video
and then challenge.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Make your decision. Make your decision. You believe he was safe,
and you better trust your guy.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
He slides into second. He turns around, challenge that challenge.
I was safe. Better be right.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I think you're right, Ronnie. Thank you, Kevin, appreciate it
very much. Rodney. We do it again tomorrow.
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