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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's do it three hours today. Jonas Knox in for
Rodney on a five to seventy LA Sports. Jonas, how
you been good?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Fred? You know, just working. We got football right around
the corner, So everybody's you know, away time VAK time
all gone because we've got the playoffs in Major League
Baseball coming up. We got a stretch run for the Dodgers.
We've got the NFL season starting, We've got the college
football season starting. USC UCLA should combine for about three
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wins this year in the Big Ten. So all of
that's right around the corner.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Here.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You get the holidays, like goodbye summer, goodbye pool parties,
the labor Days, the final blowout of the summer, and
then we get locked and loaded for the nitty gritty here.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Look, I know on the national level, it's all about
the NFL. I'm gonna be fascinated with a Big Ten
this year. To me, that is going to be a
great story to see how USC and UCLA adjust and
adapt to that conference and how they perform.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And how do you think that's gonna go?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay? I think they got okay. I think for USC
they'll be competitive. I don't think they're winning it. But
I think they're competitive. I don't think they embarrass themselves.
I think for UCLA, yeah, it could be a long year.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
But we were looking through UCLA's schedule to start out
the year, and it's not easy at all, just based
on because like people look at it and they go, well,
I mean, what's the problem. They've got Hawaii first. It's like, okay, well,
that's still having to travel to Hawaii. It's still your
first game of the season. You've gotten no preseason and
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Hawaii's going to knock off some rust by playing Delaware
State coming up tomorrow, so they'll have one game under
the belt. And then you've got Indiana at home that's
a real Big Ten team, and then you're at LSU
home against Oregon and at Penn State. I mean, it
is not outside the realm of possibility. They could lose
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every one of those games. Like I think they'll win
one or two. But it's not a crazy thought to
think that we could be looking at like an h
to four to oh to five start for UCLA this year.
Kind of brutal.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, how do you think US Seals start?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I think you. I think you. Again, USC's got better
talent but if they struggled last year in the PAC
twelve with Caleb Williams at quarterback, I'm just curious to
see how they deal with Big ten football because it's
just a it's different, Like the style of play is different.
But if there's anybody who can kind of work up
a quarterback and get somebody on a heat or maybe
a little bit, it could be Lincoln Riley. But yeah,
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I'm with you, it is. I was kind of against
it from the get go because it was tradition and
it's PAC twelve and it's what we've all grown up
with or PAC ten or Pack eight, depending on when
you grew up. But now that it's gotten closer here,
that combined with the expand with the College Football Playoff,
the twelve team expansion, like all of that stuff, like
college football's kind of take and over as from a
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national level, the second biggest sport in the country, like
over NBA, over anything else. As much as some people
and some networks want to push it, yes, even more
so than the WNBA, college football seems like it's taken
number two.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, it's going to be fascinating and I know, you
know on the national shows, you guys are basically walla
wall football. You don't do a lot of baseball. You
do some NBA when the season begins, but you're basically
walla wall tame.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I mean, excuse you, Like there is some baseball that
has worked in all right, Well, really, when the White
Sox are eliminated from playoff contention on August fifteenth, that
needs to be discussed. I mean, that is poor play.
Beyond poor play, that has to be talked about. If
somebody pisses hot and they find out, oh my god,
he's on the gas and he gets popped for eighty games,
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that's got to be discussed as well too. So yeah,
there are some stories that do make it. Aaron Judge,
good God. And by the way, seeing some of the
home runs he hits in Yankee Stadium, Like I don't
know what would be considered a less legitimate home run
hitting a home run in Yankee Stadium, especially a right field,
or doing it while you're on the gas. But like,
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there's gotta be a conversation about that, Like guys fastest
ever to three hundred home runs, Like there's something going on. Fred.
I'm not saying he's on anything, but that stadium, that
field the way it plays a little bit concerning.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You kind of are saying he's doing something.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, no, I'm just saying the dimensions of Yankee Stadium. Look,
you took a tour on the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I mean, right.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Don't you find now that we're on the topic, don't
you find it a little bit strange that in every
professional sport everything is on an even playing field, meaning
on a football stadium, one hundred yards, ten yards, friend
zones on a basketball court, same distance, same three, same
free throw, Like everything is hockey the same. Everything is
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the same, except in baseball. You got to one place
three point thirty five down down the line. Do you
go to another place? Yeah, maybe it's three ten. You
go to one place. Hey, we're gonna put a giant
green wall up in left field. It's gonna be real short,
but it's gonna be really high. Houston had a mound
in the outfield at one point.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Why they do that, I don't know. But it's almost
like baseball is allowed to just configure different dimensions. Like
you imagine like the Lakers, like they go to the
into It Dome and all of a sudden, like the
court gets narrower by thirteen feet as they get closer
of the basket, Like that's what we're talking about here.
Yet for some reason in baseball, it's like, well, it
gives it character. Okay, so why don't we just put
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a stick of dynamite on the Christmas tree because you
know it gives it character. The neighbors aren't doing it.
It's just a little war. It's a little odd to me.
I don't get it. But apparently that that flies in baseball.
You saw it. You were in Baltimore, weren't you.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
No, where'd you go Mett's, Phillies, Red Sox, Bendy Yankee
Stadium too, So uh, I think that's really interesting the dimensions.
You're right, it doesn't make anything. Only sport where the
dimensions are different, right.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I don't. I don't. I really don't get it. I've
always wondered about That's like like if you go to
Dodger Stadium, guy goes back to the wall and he's
got to bump into the wall to make a play
on the wall. It's like, hey, no big deal. You
do that at Wrigley and like you're two feet shorter,
like because there's a brick mound behind the Ivy, Like
it's just everything about it. And then there's like like
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little like like character feed Like in Pittsburgh, Well, one
part of the wall is twenty one feet because it's
an honor Roberto Clente. Okay, I get it, but like,
you know, do we have to like do like do
different things at every single stadium. It's just like, well,
this place is like in Kansas City. I was watching
a Royals game recently, and they're like a guy hit
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a foul ball and there was so much room, and like, well,
the dimensions are different here. There's a lot more foul
territory here. Why why is there more foul territory? That's
like saying, hey, you know, when when the Chargers are
hosting a game at so Far the uprights are fifteen
yards wider for the kickers. Why everything should be even?
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Like what are we doing here? And for some reason,
baseball just kind of eh, no big deal. Like those
guys are on the juice, they're not in the Hall
of Fame. What about the guy that used sandpaper on
the baseball? Yeah, whatever, don't worry about it, not a
big deal. You know, stop by Ace Hardware on on
his way to work. Big it's like, what are we
doing here. It's just like you're allowed to do certain
things in baseball you're not in other sports. I don't
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understand it. It's strange.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I understand the charm or the character of the ballpark,
but if you just really think about it, you could
still have that charm or character with the dimensions being
the same average.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Exactly the same. Agreed. It's like, what Dodgers Day is
it three ninety nine to center to center field? Is
it three ninety nine? Like you could, like you can
make it a cookie cutter four hundred to center three
thirty five, I have down the line three seventy in
the alleys, like whatever you want, but still have the
same character in the background. I totally agree with you. Like,
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if you're an Angels fan, you could keep the same
dimensions and still get thirteen people in the stadium for
an Angels game, a waterfall and some freeway that looks
disgusting in the background, Like you could still have all
that thread and for some reason, you know, we don't
do that. We've got to have different things. And everybody's
allowed to kind of, you know, make their own stadium,
make their own rules. It's just odd.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well, all right, so Tampa will be here tonight and
playing the Dodgers. Of course, Tampa has a very unique stadium.
I'm not saying it's as bad as the Oakland Coliseum.
I'm not going to say that, because nothing is that bad,
but it's a pretty close. I mean it's bad. Now.
They're going to get a new place in Saint Pete
here in a couple of years. But their dimensions are
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very different than Dodgers stadium, Yes, very different.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And also I do wonder for some of the like
what would a raise game like an average race, because
they're like near the bottom of attendance every single year.
And you don't blame them because like if you see
like the outside of that place, it's like the leaning
Tower of Pisa or whatever that place is called in Italy,
Like it doesn't it doesn't even sit level, Like it's
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really strange. But I wonder if like the Rays go
to other places and realize, you know, this one crowd
on a Friday night at Chevez Ravine is going to
be more than what we would do in a three
game series combined. Like that's that's a fact, Like there's
probably gonna be what fifty thousand people at tonight? Would
you say for the Rays coming into town Friday night?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
If not pretty close.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
When is the last time they got anywhere close to
fifty thousand?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I don't even know if they see there.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, I like, I don know if they see fifty
But like so like you just you wonder for those
guys if they like go like is it depressing or demoralizing?
It's like hanging out with rich friends all the time.
Like whenever I go out with you, I feel depressed,
Like I always feel worse about myself. It's like standing
next to Dirk Diggler in a urinal. It's like you
look over and you go, oh, Jesus, okay, I guess
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we're on. We're not all playing on the same field here,
all right, So that that's cool, all right? You know
he's got a super soaker. I've got a water pistol,
you know from CBS. And it's like I hang out
with Fred and Fred's like wheeling and dealing. He knows
the name of every wine that's brought out, every special,
every waiters, Like, like I go out with you and
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I'm like, uh, is there like a buffet? Is there?
You know? I mean, do you guys have like an
I p a like, is there anything like I can have?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I don't like when you do that. Yeah, no, that's
not good. Yeah, you're you're right. Well we go out?
No you do? Is there a fake?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I just want at you.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I just wonder, like what the depression level is for
some of these rate like players on teams that draw
flies when they go to a place that's got a
real fan base and they go Also, this is how
it is, like like oh, like, man, there's a lot
more noise today, Like this is like, oh, I wouldn't
be surprised there was more people there for batting practice
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than like a home game for the Rays. And I
swear to God. And I've wondered, especially as you get
late in the year, if you're not like a legitimate contender,
that's got a weigh on you, right.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh sure, yeah, just take your money and get out
of there as quick as you can. You don't want
to be there.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
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Speaker 2 (11:50):
No, because but they kind of did the same thing
with James Paxton correct to where they they got oh no,
why am i Drana blaw? Yeah. So like he like
had just had just thrown a really good game against
Boston and it was like, man, he's been their only
started that's been healthy the whole year. He's given him
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really good innings, he's given him really good production. Dfade
and then Dave Roberts comes out the other night and
he says, you know, that was the highlight of the
year for me, and then you know, less than forty
eight hours later he gets dfaide. I just it's a
cruel business. It sucks. He was brought in as kind
of a minor league deal, if you remember, because he
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was friends with Freddie Freeman and they have a great relationship.
And everybody loves Jason Hayward, like every place he's been to,
like you hear stories about the guy. They all love
the dude, Like when he came to Chicago and signed
that big money deal. David Ross was in the final
year of his career, like basically he was, you know,
to Swan song. He came in with John Lester all that,
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and Jason Hayward wanted to give back to him because
Dave Ross was one of the veteran players on the
Braves when Jason Hayward started his career, and so Jason
Hayward paid for David Ross to have a suite every
single home game his final year with the Cubs, his
final year in Major League Baseball, like out of pocket,
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made sure that he was treated specially because he was
so kind to him and he wanted to give him
as a thank you for all his years in Major
League Baseball. You cannot find a better guy. You cannot
find a better guy. DFA. It's like, damn man, It's
like you know, like it's it's cruel, it's a brutal business.
But I wonder if they had a conversation with Freddie
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Freeman beforehand, just to be like, hey, this is what
we're gonna do, like like we've got to do it.
We need to get more production. It's a business decision.
This is the way this is going to go. Or
Freddie Freeman was like, you know, turning on AM five
to seven LA Sports and getting the news along with
everybody else.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well, I listen, he was hitting two to eight. I mean,
Jay Saint Heyward was hitting two oh eight. The thing
that confound some people is that, all right, So you've
moved Jason Hayward, a guy who apparently is universally loved,
and we're gonna activate Chris Taylor. Chris Taylor is back,
Jason Hayward is done. As David Vase said yesterday, money plays.
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Chris Taylor makes fourteen million dollars a year. He's gonna
be on the roster. He's not the one that's gonna go.
And he gets fourteen million next year too, so they're
not gonna move him. Somebody had to go, and it
was Jason Hayward. And you're right, it's the unfortunate a
part of the business because Jason Hayward is a great
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clubhouse guy and you need some of those. But they
also are paying Chris Taylor fourteen million dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Like to give you an example of how good of
a guy he is when a player signs a big
money contract and it doesn't go well and they don't produce,
generally speaking, the fan base barries them. I mean just
you know, they look around, whether it's you know, the
Dodgers anybody else. If somebody signs a big money and
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this is in every sport, if somebody signs a big
money deal and they're not producing or performing well, they're
gonna get crushed by the fan base. Nobody in Chicago
said a thing about Jason Hayward, like it was just
kind of like, well, he gave that really good speech
before the tenth inning of Game seven of the World Series,
Like so I think that there's probably going to be
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opportunities for him still, just because he's got such a
great reputation. I just it was a little the timing
was really awkward, and I'm sure Dave Roberts was like damn,
because he comes out, he says that he's feeling good.
It was a feel good moment, the best of the
season for him, and then to see that guy get
the news you're out, We're bringing in Chris Taylor and
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it is a money play, Like that's that's unfortunate. But
I mean that's the business man like, there's a lot
of hearts that are broken all throughout sports.
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five seventy LA Sports. So Nick Hamilton was talking to
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Magic Johnson and Magic said something and I got us
to thinking a little bit. Now, granted it's not one
of his tweets, because we know those are always well
thought out with deep meaning. Magic's tweets, we know he
puts a lot into those.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Oh yeah, I mean come on, So with that we know.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But he said, you know something, if you're going to
talk about the greatest of all time, why don't you
throw Kobe Bryant to that mix? He should be considered
as well. What do you think when you hear that?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I mean, I I don't think he's on the level
of Lebron and MJ, but he's definitely in the conversation
for one of the greatest of all time. And I
also like the art. Now, I'm just curious some people
would make the case that the other name that doesn't
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get brought up in the conversation between those two enough
is Kareem? Did Magic Johnson mention anything about Kareem in
that discussion with Nick Hamilton? By the way, shout out
to Nick Hamilton. He's awesome guy, works his ass off
and does a great job. But did he mention anything
about Kareem? And do you find that interesting if he
did not mention anything about his former teammate being on
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that list.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I did not, Adam, you want to jump in on
this too, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
He did mention Kareem. Actually, I have the bite for
you guys. If you want to hear it here, you
do it. We got it. Magic Johnson all with Nick
Hamilton on Night Cast Media and is stop playing?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Okay? Sounds great turn up. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So basically Magic did agree that Kareem's in the conversation.
The main central point was he said if Kobe hadn't passed,
he would be in the conversation, which I think a
lot of people find interesting because it's not like his
career hadn't already played out. It wasn't Roberto Clemente. Yeah,
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and then you have, of course, Michael Jordan's career playing out.
Lebron's still going Kareems is over well over. I'm not
sure what the issue is there or why that would
take him down a notch, because I think for most people,
Lebron passed him by while he was still playing.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I mean, and you just from the standpoint of like
if you go to just the NFL route, like you
would agree Fred that Walter Payton is one of the
greatest running backs of all time, Like absolutely, yeah, well
he passed too, Like does that mean that like had
he lived longer, he would have gone higher up on
the list, like it just like I look at it
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and I go Kobe Bryant passing away tragically, Like if
we're just keeping this as an isolated conversation about his
playing career, I mean, one of the greatest of all time,
of course, I don't think like maybe from a credential standpoint,
you know, he's up there with Lebron as far as statistics,
he does have the titles and all that, and definitely
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not with Jordan when it comes to the titles. I
will say this as far as popular lakers in this town,
like of all time, where do you got Kobe Bryant, Fred,
Because he's got to be on the I mean, is
he more popularly than Magic.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well for a certain generation. Yes, But look at it
like this, and we've done this exercise before. Give me
the top five Lakers. Who are they? Lebron wouldn't even
be on the list. Oh no, no, right, he wouldn't
even make the list. He may go down as the
greatest player in the history of basketball, but he wouldn't
make the Laker list. So if you if you have Kobe,
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so let's look at it. Let's just come up with
a list, simple, Magic, Kareem.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, Kobe Shaq, Elden Campbell of course.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, the helicopter.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I mean, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
When he played defense he just stuck his arms out.
He looks like a helicopter rotor Blake.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well, we don't need to shame the guy in the air, Fred,
you know, we're trying to give him a little bit
of love. I don't know why you have to attack him.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
All right, But if he didn't include Elden Campbell, if
he didn't make it with Jerry West, Yeah, right, so
there's your five.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, I mean it is, it is. That's why. And
we've talked about this before. It's like nobody, no Laker
fan is going to love and embrace Lebron the way
they embrace Kobe, and in fact, I still think there's
some that kind of resent the idea that Lebron got
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here after Kobe and are still having a hard time
sort of accepting him as one of their own. I
think a lot of people look at Lebron as a mercenary, like, yeah,
he's not really one of us, so to speak. He's
more of a mercenary. He's bounced around, he's gotten here.
Kobe was ours, Like that's the impression I get when
you hear from and talk to a lot of Laker fans.
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But as far as an all time from a game standpoint,
like I'll say this is from a competitive spirit, Kobe
Bryant's at the top of the list as like a
true throwback in your face, took it serious, and that's
where he was more like Michael Jordan than Lebron was
Like Lebron's got, you know, the physical attributes that nobody's
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ever seen, but Kobe's game and just sort of his
mentality was so closely resembling of Michael Jordan that I
think that's where you kind of do the separation between
him and Lebron, Like maybe not as good of a
player overall, but as far as will and determination, it's
hard to argue anybody else after than Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, I think the thing between Kobe and Lebron when
Kobe stepped on the court, Kobe was about winning and
that was his focus. Yeah, when Lebron steps on the court,
Lebron wants to win, but it's about Lebron. And maybe
it was about Kobe as well, but that's not the
perception of how Kobe was viewed. Kobe was about winning. Now, granted,
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there were conversations that Kobe wouldn't share the ball, he
could be a difficult teammate, and I always made the
point and Kobe shoots too much and he won't pass,
and I made this point. Kobe was about winning, and
he would always go to the option he thought would
give him the best chance to win. He just thought
that option was him.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Kobe was about winning his way most of the time. Fred,
you talk about some of those shortcomings in the playoffs,
like where he wouldn't take a shot against the Phoenix
Suns in Game seven when they came back on the
Lakers down three games to one to prove a point,
like if I don't do anything. We're not even going
to be in this game. There was a lot of
that stuff that I think people forgot about.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Which, by the way, is pretty funny, like now that
we look back on it, Yeah, that's kind of its
kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
They went on TNT and argue with Charles Barkley about it.
It was nuts. Kobe was about doing things his way.
His will was strong, and I think he knew one
way to do things. Now if you look at some
of the ways they ended up winning often, I think
Jerry West has made this point before. Scoring can get
in the way of winning. You know, being an individual,
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being a great superstar doesn't exactly rise you know, lift
all boats or rising tide lifts all boats, doesn't bring
up or elevate players around you. When they did win,
Kobe made guys better when they won against Orlando, when
he was the number one option and wasn't second to
Shack like during the first three championships. Kobe made guys better.
Pal Gasol got better next to him when they finally
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overcame the Boston Celtics and won in twenty ten. So
less was more at times with Kobe Bryant in some ways, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
There the story too that in the Olympics it was
it might it might have been, yes, where he just
he saw and that's my teammate and said, screw it,
like I'm letting everybody know we mean business here. Like
I just don't see Lebron doing that. I'm sorry, I
just I don't see that, which doesn't make him a
bad guy from all accounts, like a pretty decent guy,
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good guy, never met him, But I don't see that
in him. I just see a guy who's got a
physical attribute and physically is one of the most impressive
not only basketball players. It's hard to argue Lebron's longevity,
like his health, like just like what he brings from
a physical standpoint, like I don't know that we've seen
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it in any other sport, let alone just the NBA.
And yeah, Kobe didn't play as long and all that,
but man, his impact on this town, Lebron's never gonna
touch ever.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, yeah, and I think again, because Kobe was here
from the beginning, and he was part of that Shack
run and then he was with Gasol. There was dramas
around again, there was dramas around in Kobe too, but
people loved his spirit and his determination, and I think
that's what he projected were On the other hand, and
it's valid. Lebron is a specimen. He wasn't even born.
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He was built, he was constructed. It's mind boggling to
see this guy play like that at his age. It
is absolutely mind boggling, and I think everybody should appreciate that.
To watch that is pretty special. But to me, Lebron
is about Lebron. To me, he is about Lebron and Adam.
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You make a great point. Lebron can make everybody around
him better. He distributes the ball. Lebron is criticized for
giving up shots at the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Even though he has more game winners in the playoffs
than Michael Jordan. All these things and the stats don't
line up with that necessarily, But I think part of
it was the infatuation with Kobe was Lakers fan has
never had their Michael Jordan. You could say Elgin Baylor
way back in the day was the first of that prototype.
But when they brought in players, when they brought in Kareem,
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when they brought in Will, when they brought in Shack,
they were all big men. They were starved for their
own Michael Jordan, that's who Kobe Bryant was in the city.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I have a question for you guys. Is Kobe Bryant
the greatest Charlotte hornet of all time? It could be
a lotty because he got him. Yeah that is that
is true. Yeah, it could be. I could be laid,
he could be uh, he could be the greatest of
all time. But Kobe Bryant might actually make that list
now that we're talking about great Charlotte hornets of all time,
(26:38):
because you got Alonzo Morning, You've got Larry Johnson, You've
got spot.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Did you just short stereotype? You meant Muggsy Bogs Freds?
What are they all the same? Fred Mookie Blaylock.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Uh. By the way, coming to a dunk contest near you,
Peter Dinklice, geez man. All right, so put some respect
on his name.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
All right? Yeah, well Kobe, I guess he would. He
wore the Charlotte hat, he did, right, So that's got
to count for something. It does, Yeah, gotta count for something.
But Adam, he said, you know, this city never had
its own Michael Jordan. What other city has had on
Michael Jordan? If you really think about it.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It's just the Lakers were used to bringing in stars
and feeling like the rest of the NBA was almost
a farm system for them, and they got so many
great players that way. They couldn't get Michael that way.
Kobe was their Michael Jordan. He was the prince of
the city. There was nobody else like him. So, yeah,
is it hard for Lebron to really settle in here
(27:50):
when he was having murals defamed as he was coming
over and people were saying false king with spray pain
over murals for Ron James, Yeah, it was tough from
day one. I remember Bill Plaski came on and said
after Kobe passed, Lebron gave that speech, and I think
halftime or pregame of that first game against the Trailblazers,
(28:11):
Plaski said, that was the first time he became a Laker,
that was it. That was the first time he ingratiated
himself with the fan base. Banks Bill, Yeah, I guess
before that he meant nothing. But you know, the championship
they won was in the bubble. People just credit that.
Everything with Lebron James is so much more scrutinized, But
it does go back to he.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Wasn't their own.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
He wasn't their guy.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Kobe was.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I think it goes back to Blaze Pizza.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I was there for that. S Oh, you were there
all day long, brother, he was gonna give us a report.
I had to watch every nice car that went by.
Oh that was just Alexis. It wasn't a top tier
trim level that camp be Lebron James. I was waiting
there the entire time for the hummer to come by
that he had in high school. Never happened, all because
(28:59):
of what an eye e mode he tweet that he
put out there that was cryptic, and people thought he
might show up.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
And and but didn't he while everybody's standing in line,
yourself included at him, didn't look Lebron likes tweet out
a picture of him in his swimming pool and Acron
like playing Marco polo like he got guys holding like
a spalding in ninety five degree weather with just swamp
ass and bo that you can smell from Temecula and
(29:24):
Lebron sitting there playing Marco polo in his swimming pool,
and Akron and Adam and company are looking around, going well, dude,
what was what are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
We were like fish out of water basically that that
was rough.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
It was over one.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Hundred degrees that day, but it's brutal.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Did he apologize for that? Did he like mention? Yeah,
it's never never come up. Yeah, why would it? You know,
why would Yeah, he wasn't gonna go with No.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
We couldn't even get like Lance Stevenson that day, who
was on the Lakers team. We couldn't get anybody there.
It was brutal, and there was probably five hundred people
outside at least.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
That's rough man. And I just remember like there was
a guy that had met like memorabilia that he was
gonna get signed that he probably thought to himself, Man,
screw it, I'm not getting a real job. I'll just
get Lebron to sign this and go slinging on eBay.
And that guy sat there like a horse's ass for
hours while Lebron was having cocktails and fake Taco Tuesday
(30:21):
parties in his swimming pool in Akron. My god, what
a move.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
So that's why he was off to a slow start
from the public's perception with the Lakes.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Maybe do you.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Know one night I was at a game and I
run it into Jacob. I'm Ronni. So we're on the
concourse and we're talking. I kid you not. People walked by.
It was so startling. I didn't think it was real.
I thought he set it up. People walked by more
than one and said to him, thank you, thank you
for bringing us Lebron. Thank you Jacob and Ronnie. Because
(30:58):
remember when he put up the billboards at him about Lebron.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I do okay.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
People thought that's why Lebron signed with the Lakers because
of Jacob and Ronnie's billboard. Really, And I stood there
and watched this, and I'm telling you, it was more
than one or two people, and they shook his hand
and thanked him. And after the first one, I said,
you set that up. He goes, No, what happens all
the time. And it continued to happen all the time.
(31:24):
And I looked at him and I said, what is
wrong with people? What is wrong with people? They thought
you were the man that convinced Lebron to come here.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Turns out marketing works red apparently, I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And so does that mean that Jacob and Ronnie gets
a N season tournament ring? Does he get one of
those rings that they won last year.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
He is a proud partner. So given that he's a
proud partner, maybe he gets one.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's sweet bottle of champagne.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
All right, Oh, are you a social media influencer?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I try to be.
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(33:10):
we have Dylan Hernandez coming on the program, and you
know he'll always blow something up, so that's fun when
Dylan stops.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
In, of course it is. We need people to blow
stuff up here from time to time.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Oh, he'll definitely do that, so we look forward to it.
All right. Do you have a big social media presence?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
No, not really. I mean I mostly retweet like insults.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I think those are funny because people get so like
I don't block anybody. I don't even know how that works,
but like people get like this guy wrote in today
and said called me a communist. Gen Z bitch boy
said they're not changing stadiums for a douchebag, so like
stuff like I packed, I'll retweet him right now. You
can sigure it out, so I'll go ahead.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
By the way, what part of that was not true?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Probably gen Z okay, I mean the other maybe there's
an argument for but yeah, you know, probably probably not
the gen Z part, but you know, so yeah, no
real social media presence though, you know, I feel like
a little bit too invasive and I feel like people
maybe share a little bit too much, to be honest with.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
You, Okay, So here's the thing about social media and
of a certain generation, you make a living doing that,
and apparently if you're really good at it, and for
those that are, you make a nice living. Now, not
everybody's good at it, and not everybody can make that living,
but to try, because that's just how people communicate today.
(34:36):
And here's the thing. And by the way, there are
things that people post or show that would be embarrassing
years ago to others. Doesn't matter. It's fine, it's all good.
We've got a different out look on life. But the
one thing that's really interesting because they are making a
couple of bucks, right, and then they talk about or
(34:56):
they show where they're at, they describe their life and
complete detail. People that follow them realize, oh, well, they're
in Hawaii. Look at those pictures. So I bet you
nobody's home at their house. Oh, no, one is home.
(35:17):
I'm checking this and my god, they said they're going
to be there a week. So what day are we
going to go and break in and steal everything? How
are we going to handle that? Let's just pick a
day case the neighborhood a little bit, see who's around,
but we don't nobody's at the house because they told
us nobody's at the house, and the LAPD is reporting
more of those types of incidents. Now influencers are getting
(35:40):
robbed because thence they tell everybody they're not home, it's
an invitation to go on hook for and take whatever
you want.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Well, like we've seen this with celebrities or even athletes
right to where they know when they're on road trips,
so they'll just you know, kind of map everything out
from there, and if you can get through the gated
communities or whatnot, you can you can really do some damage.
But there was also you remember was it Facebook where
you could check in? You remember back in the day,
that was something on Facebook where if if somebody went
(36:11):
to like, you know, someplace like city Walk or something
like that, they could check in like so and so
is at this so and and it became like this
popular trend to where people you could let people know
in real time and tag where you were and what
location you were at, and like there were like actual
people that were they had warrants out for their arrests
(36:32):
that were doing this, not realizing that if you do that,
somebody's gonna tip off the authorities and you're gonna get arrested.
But people just want the smoke, and they want the attention,
and they want the shine and they want the clouds
so desperately that they're willing to just forego any potential
privacy they've got, Like they'll just go ahead and just
(36:52):
let it be known where they're at, what they're doing,
what's going on at all times, with no real thought
to yet, now somebody knows where the hell I am,
Like they've got all my information, they know where I'm at,
and they know when I'm not going to be home.
So now I could just go ransack the place and
nobody's going to do anything about it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, it's it makes sense if you think about it,
It makes complete sense. Well, nobody's own Okay, that's just perfect.
I will just cruise on over there. But when you
have this desire to let everybody know exactly what you're
doing every second of your life. It creates an issue.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, there's real there's no real privacy anymore.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Well, yeah, and when you are choosing to share this
with a large number of people, you're kind of doing
it to yourself. You're kind of putting yourself in harm's way.
You are doing that to you by telling everybody what
you're doing. It's simply an invitation.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Did you see the I think it was in Chatsworth
where the guys back to the truck through the front
window of a smoke shop, like basically just took like,
you know, whatever truck they were driving, put it in reverse,
blew through the front window of a smoke shop overnight,
and then got out and ran into the place, and
(38:16):
I think they got away with a bunch of stuff.
Like that's that's the level of theft that we're at now.
It's no longer like remember back in the day there
was like the the window cutter, where it would be
like this circular thing that looked like a pro tractor
for criminals, and it would like you would cut a
hole in the window and you could reach through and
unlock the door. We're at the point now where people
(38:36):
are like, yeah, that's cute and all Listen, you know,
a credit card in the door, you know, to try
to work the lock that way. All of that's cute.
Why don't we just take our Tacoma and back it
through the front window and that way, we'll just let
everybody get out and take whatever we need from the
weed shop. Like it's another level of thievery here, Fred,
Like they're not messing around anymore.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Listen, it's far more time effective. It's far more I mean,
if you think about it, Yeah, white fiddle around at
the door, We'll just drive the truck right through the window.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
You know. I was thinking about that. I was like,
you know, who's gonna be the first one to find
the positive and these guys back in their truck through
the front window to steal from a weed shop. I
was thinking, like, who would be the one to And
you won? Fred, Congratulations, Like you're the big winner. Yes,
genius move. If you're going to steal, drive a car
through the window and then just let everybody get out
(39:29):
and take whatever they need in the middle of the night.
It's a good move.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
And see, the thing is, no one is ever ever
going to figure out it was you like that, no
one will ever get a picture plate the rock.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
No, it's brilliant. The whole thing's brilliant. It's almost as brilliant.
You remember this story from a couple of years ago.
In a Gore Hill's youral stomping ground. There were these
these guys, these I guess they're like, uh, they've got
like this Chilean crime ring to where they come over
from Chile. They break into homes. There's like three or
(40:03):
four of them at a time, and they were going
throughout southern California to do it. Well, these guys broke
into some guy's house in a Gore Hills and as
it turns out, this guy was like a sixty year
old former boxer. They're like, you know, neg knew how
to use his hands. You can look up the mugshot
of this guy that broke in. It's like he fell
asleep on a table. Saw like the guy got chewed up,
(40:29):
walked into right hand or left hand after left hand
and just had to wear it and so on the mugshot.
It's like didn't even get away with anything and got
beat up with a guy in his sixties who just
knew how to throw his hand still and just wore
this dude out like so lesson learn. Like, watch when
(40:49):
you get into a place, have you seen any memorabilia
or any like, you know, boxing gloves hanging around anywhere.
Be on the lookout for a left hand because you
could wear I'm gonna send you. I'm gonna find the
mug shot and send it to you. This guy just
getting showed up. Yeah, great story. It's a feel good story.
It'll make you miss a Gore Hills even though you're
too good for now.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Fred, I don't know if you would say that. I mean,
to a degree that's true, but I don't think you
have to say it publicly.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
You understand, Yeah, you understand. The Google search is going
to look like what do you think is gonna pop
up with my algorithm when I go Chilean thieves with
black eyes? Like, what do you think that's going to
look like? Moving forward?
Speaker 1 (41:26):
You know what? Look it up and then you'll tell us.
I'd be curious to see what pops up. All right,
we have Dylan Hernandez coming up next. Fred Rgan Jonas
Knox in for Rodney on a five to seventy LA
Sports