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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Peak one LA
Sports joining us here. In a couple of minutes, Dellan
Hernandez of The Times had an opportunity to chat with
Mookie Bets. Everybody's trying to figure out what was wrong
with Mookie. But Rodney, he's been hitting the ball okay
lately or better, let's just put it like that.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, he's been hitting you know better Tuesday. Tuesday night,
he had a great night, got three hits. I think
he had a double or a couple doubles, whatever he had.
But even yesterday, hit the ball hard, and you hope
that's that's a sign of good things to come with him.
We certainly know that he is is not from a
lack of working at it or trying to alleviate that
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from a physical standpoint, because as everybody has pointed out,
that he is in the cage more than anybody. He is,
you know, trying to take action to rectify this more
than anybody, and so which leads you believe that it's just,
you know, something that's got a click, and maybe it's
mental or maybe it's just something really small. But again
(01:03):
to your point, he had a good night Tuesday, night.
He hit the ball hard yesterday, and hopefully this this
continues where he breaks out of this thing and uh,
you know, we give it a few weeks and there's
something that we don't talk about anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right, Well, let's bring on Dylan Hernandez to spend
some time with Mookie. Dylan, how you doing, I'm doing?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, how are you guys?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
All right, we'll hanging in. Dylan, you spent time with Monkey?
What'd you learn?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You know that I guess, you know, things aren't maybe
from his point of view, as hopeless as maybe some
of his quotes, because some of his recent quotes that
made it seem you know, part of what made me
drop by was just you know, he kind of has
done this like what more can I do? You know
type thing, and it kind of seemed like almost he
was kind of out of out of even you know,
potential solutions, you know. And when we were talking, he
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kind of told me, yeah, you know, because my suspicion
was kind of that he doesn't want to discuss specifically
what he's working on, right, and you know, it's kind
of an easy way to kind of brush the media off,
just to kind of say like, well, I've already done everything,
you know, and yeah, he told me. Sure, you know,
he has ideas, and you know that there are specific
things that he's working on, and obviously you know he's
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you know, he's like, no offense to you guys, but
you know, these things are so subtle that you might
not necessarily understand. So I don't really think there's, you know,
a reason to talk about it. But it does seem
like he has like some ideas as to, you know,
what can get him out of this slump. And then
he's out there. You know, he says he's still hitting
three four hours a day, like you guys just said, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Did you get the sense that he was, you know,
obviously he's frustrated, but that he was hopeful that this
this could turn around? Or was it like you said that,
you know, sometimes his quotes sound like his doomsday but
from his standpoint and talking to him, spending time with him,
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did you get the sense that this is not going
to last a whole season from his point.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Of yeah, you know, I think you know, I mean,
he's he's obviously befuddled, you know, now, kind of the
point that I was making to him when I when
I you know first approached him was that, you know,
he had just finished up his kind of you know,
extensive you know, pregame fielding routine at shortstop, and I
was just like, that doesn't look like a guy who's
given up to me, right, A guy that's given up
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doesn't put in three four hours.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I do think he's not sure if that's necessarily going
to lead to results, right, But I think kind of
from his vantage point it, hey, look, the only thing
I can do here is put in work. So I'm
going to put in the work and kind of right,
I think, And I think that's maybe the part he's
kind of having difficulty with is you know they always
kind of talk about trust, right Athletoes talk about trust
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the process, right, and you know he's been kind of
doing the process, which for him is to work and
maybe even overwork, right. But you know, at some point,
right the results don't come, you do kind of start
to question the process, and you know, I think I
think that's where the battle's been, right, And but the
fact that he's continuing to go through the process, I
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would argue, is a sign that you know, kind of
deep down on if you kind of feel it all
back that there is some optimism there, because there wasn't,
he would have been doing it right.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. He's still working on it.
So yeah, I agree with that. What do you get
the sense of his of his teammates, you know, and
how they're feeling about it. Obviously they feel from because
everybody loves Mookie's a great teammate, and they kind of can.
I'm sure they can all feel his pain because you
play this game long enough, everybody's going to go through
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some sort of slump.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And I happened.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I was at the game Tuesday night and sitting very
low and got a chance to kind of really be
close to those guys as they got up into the
on deck circle, and I noticed that he and Freddie
were really having conversations, not only you know, in the
on deck circle before you know, Mookie went up to
the batter's box, but also within the batter's box. I
saw Mookie several times turn around to Freddie and say,
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is this on? Is this off?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Is you know what am I doing?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And Freddie gesturing back Mookie say and stay with it,
stay on top of it, or whatever he was saying.
But there was certainly an interaction between Han and Freddie.
Have you noticed that as he talked about that with
the with the other teammates and how they've tried to
help him.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You know, right, these guys have been through a lot together, right,
and you know, especially Mooki and Freddie, you know, the
years that it didn't work out right, and they kind
of know. I do think that everybody you know on
the Dodgers just they understand, you know, what what matters
is October and what matters is getting right for October,
you know, and you know that's kind of what everything
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is pointing to. And I think the guys all know
that if if they don't get Mookie Bets going, it's
going to be tough, right because you know, you could say, Okay,
the starting pitching is starting to come together. I think
you know, and now this part hasn't been verbalized to me,
but I'm looking at the team. I think the bullpen's
a problem, right. I think it's going to be really
hard for them to win the way they did last year.
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So that means, you know, some of that's going to
have to be made up by the starting pitch and
by the offense. And again the offense to me is
different when Mookie Bett gets going. I think Otani showed
that understanding when he you know, I know, it only
lasted a couple of weeks where he and right Otanian
movie bets slipped spots in the lineup, but Otani very
willingly said, Hey, you know what if if you think
it's going to be better for Mookie to get going
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by hitting leadoff, Hey have him hit leadoff. I'll hit second,
I'll hit ninth, you know. And so I think that
team has shown, uh, you know again, just understanding that Hey,
you know what, if we want to win, which is
the ultimate goal, we have to get this guy going.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You know, talking about being ready when it counts. Let's
talk about where they're at right now, with the padres
now breathing down their necks. Are you concerned or do
you think it'll all be okay? Who?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You know?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I think, you know, again, this is from a couple
of nights ago. I just happened to be there. So
there's kind of some recency bias, but does make you
feel a little bit better. Well, you know, it wasn't
just the fact that Max months hit. I kind of
figured that was going to happen. What I was encouraged
by was seeing kind of taoscar Hernandez hid right, and
you know, to me, you know, his problems probably go
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back to when he had that growing injury at May,
you know, and the other night, you know, he really
kind of puts some charges into the ball and I
really saw kind of lower body strength maybe that we
haven't seen throughout the year. So the fact that like
he was going and the fact that you know, Max Munsey, uh,
you know, who just came off the il, showed some
signs of life. I think this means that they're gonna,
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you know, they're they're they're not just gonna, like, you know,
roll over and let the potteries run away with this thing.
But yeah, I think there has to be real concern at.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
This point, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I mean, the Padres went out, had a great trade deadline,
uh you know, and while the Dodgers they're pitching, they're
starting pitching. I think, you know, as of right now,
so long as they stay healthy, looks really really good.
I think again there's some reason to be optimistic about
the lineup, but there's some legitimate concerns about that bullpen
right now, you know, And so yeah, I think, you know,
they're obviously gonna have a couple of series here in
the next couple of weeks. Uh, there're gonna be some
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huge games, and I do you think it's going to
be kind of a battle down to the to the
end there, And you know, it's a it's a huge
difference whether you win the division or not, because you
know there's going you get a top two seed in
the end out, you get a first round by right,
you know, you finish in that wildcard spot. All of
a sudden you're playing in that three you know, best
at three first round thing. Anything can happen there, right,
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So I think if you're the Dodgers, you want to
avoid that at all costs. And that does kind of
tage the calculus a little bit, you know, just because
I think last year they were able to kind of
like line up by things up and kind of really
just kind of okay, you know, what what do we
have to do to get ready in October? Well, they
don't have the luxury now all of a sudden being
able to look ahead that far. They have to win
this division.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Going that other route is very, very difficult, as you
mentioned three game series. Anything can happen. But on the
flip side of what you just said that there's concern
with the Dodgers and and you know, Padres breathing down
their neck. Do you do you think that from the
outside looking in, there are teams going Man, the Dodgers
(09:01):
been struggling with injuries all season long. Now they're starting
to get their guys back. They're getting glass Now back
and Blake Snell back, Otani's pitching and starting to stretch
out a little bit more. Max Muntzi's back. At the
two home runs the other night, looks like tay Oscar
maybe coming back that they look at and go, we
had real chances to make a DBT with the Dodgers,
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and yet they're still sitting on top of.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
The you know, first place.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Does that seep in the minds of some of the
other teams in the National League thinking that they did
all this with all these injuries. Now they're getting their
guys back, Man, did we miss our opportunity?
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Except I think you know, it's just you know, because
to me, this kind of goes back again into when
was that like June when they had right like what
was it twenty six games in a row with teams
that were like either playoff found or right on the
cuffs there, you know. And to me, like when they
came out of that still in first place, it was
kind of like, okay, this thing is over right, and
sure enough, you know, after a while, they kind of
(10:01):
built a nice division lead, but they let the other
teams kind of get back into it, right. I think,
you know, maybe when they had kind of opened up
the division lead at that point, maybe some of the
other teams were looking at it like, okay, we blew
our opportunity, but the Dodgers kind of let these teams
back in here, right, And so you know, I think,
you know, if I'm the Padres, you know, and again
after the deadline that they had and kind of the
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run that they're on right now, I think they are
probably looking at it like, hey, we got another shot
at this, right. We might have been over a month ago,
but we got another shot right now, you know. And
if I'm them, you know, and you know, obviously and
those are competitive guys too, I'm sure they're looking at
this thinking, you know what, we got another crack at
this and let's give their best shot here.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Well, do you think Andrew Friedman made a mistake at
the trade deadline. Here's what I think. Here's what I think.
I think A they should have got a bat. Now,
you just mentioned a few minutes ago you're not sure
about the bullpen. I gotta believe when Tanner Scott comes back,
he's got to be right. And there's been some wrong
with him this year, because I mean, he's just not
that bad and that's not why they signed him. So
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let's say he's right. Let's say Kirby Yates is right.
I think they needed a bat. Of course, they really
didn't do much of anything.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Now what do you think, Yeah, I mean, well, to
be honest, I think you know right. And again I
know we've joked about, like, you know, me sending other
people's money. I would have gone after everything, right, bat
starter reliever, you know. But I think to me, the
biggest one is like the bullpen, right, because I think
if you look at the rotation, you can see what
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the plan is.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
It's like, okay, well, yes, these guys have histories of
kind of going down and stuff, but if they're all healthy,
it's going to be fine. Right. You look at the lineup,
you kind of think Okay, well, these guys that have
historically hit, if they hit, it's going to be fine
to me.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
The one that I'm having kind of trouble of seeing
the way it's going to work is the bullpen. Frankly
at this point, you know, and I don't think they
have kind of this like right, And I think kind
of the problems early in the season have kind of
affected the bullpen in a way that's almost irreparable at
this point in that right they you know, because the
starting pitchers went down, they were getting short starts, and
all of a sudden, now the bullpen's taxed, right, And
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because you know, they didn't have kind of this like
ninth inning guy, they had to kind of put Tanner
Scott into this role of being a closer instead of
more of a hey, we're going to use this guy
to go after the left. He's in the lineup, right.
I mean, you know what made Tanner Scott so good
last year with San Diego and right, performed so well
in that series to the point where the Dodgers stated,
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of all his money was the fact that you know, hey,
Otani's coming up, Tanner Scott comes in, you know, freddie
Freeman's hitting a couple spots back. That's the part of
the lineup that he's going to attack and hold for
you you know, And instead of kind of being able
to selectively deploy him all of a sudden, it was
a situation where Okay, he's throwing in the ninth inning.
He's throwing in the ninth inning, you know. And Yates
is a guy who's kind of up there in age.
He's pitched a bunch. Even if the rotation gets fixed,
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those innings kind of don't come off now, right, And
I think that that's so was the scary part with
a bullpen's you know, you go through stretches where guys
pitch a lot like it might take another year for
these guys to get right again, and it's you know,
I think they're going to go into now, into the playoffs,
there's going to be no clear ninth inning guy. I
do think they're going to have to be more mindful
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of like matchups, you know, And I'm guessing we're going
to see more of a you know, either we'll see
a couple guys kind of auditioned for the ninth inning
thing between now and the end of the regular season,
or you know, it's going to be probably most likely
knowing them more of a matchup based thing, right, Okay,
you know this is where the left these are, these
are where the Riots are. We're going to try to
just how we're going to try to you know, map
this game out. And I think it's really hard, you know,
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when you when you don't have kind of that clear
cut ninth inning guy.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Now, granted, they did win the World Series like this
in twenty twenty, right, I mean Julio riasm ms up
closing out the World Series h and that work. But
it is a hard way to live, I think, just
because anytime you're making you know, kind of pitching changes
and counting on certain things to happen, you know, so
that you can kind of like deploy the relievers in
the way that you want, uh you know, right, just
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a little bit of bad luck and change everything there.
And I again, I think that's just a really really
tough way to live, you.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Know, speaking of the tread downline, you know Fred talking
about bad I agree with them. I think the bullpen
and the pitching staff is going to be Okay, did
you are you concern? And do the Dodgers keep trotting
out Conforto, or do they make a move and say, Okay,
we've given you all we can give you. We got
to make changes and let let someone else start playing
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more on a regular basis out there, because they've seen
Conforto and it doesn't seem like he is going to
be a guy that can be consistent as a left
handed hitter.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, you know, I think I mean, at this point,
right it's it's kind of tough. They don't you know.
The truth is they don't have like a ton of
options right now, you know, and I think it is
going to them. It's you know, I mean, again, the
easiest way to remedy this is Mookie Bets kind of
starts hitting right right now. I do feel kind of
for like the last month or so so, they've been
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very o tawny dependent, you know. And I don't want
to compare the Dodgers and the Angels like in any way,
right obviously the Dodgers aren't first place, but you know,
some of these games have looked a little bit like
these games where you know, Tommy when he was in Anaheim,
kind of you looked at him and you could kind
of tell he was bearing you know, a disproportionate amount
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of the responsibility, and he felt like he kind of
had to do everything to kind of get the team
to win. And there are a lot of nights where
it kind of feels like that, right where he's kind
of he accounts for a lot of the offense. And
you know, I do think you know, last year, if
you look at that playoff run, well, Tony didn't have
a great postseason, right, I mean, you know, you look
at the guy that was kind of consistent throughout right,
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the best hitter could consistently throughout the playoffs was Mookie Betts,
you know, and if you look at again the two
times they won a World Series here in recent years,
he was twenty twenty when Mookie Bets was great, you know,
granted was more with the glove than the bat, but
he was fantastic. And then again last year, Bets was
the most consistent hitter throughout the the playoffs. So to me,
you know, that is kind of the easy key to
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unlock things if Bets get you know, Dave Roberts used
to say, right was is Mookie goes we go, And
I think that that is kind of the big thing there,
you know, And Mookie. It was interesting. And the one
thing we I forgot to mention was how bets did
kind of frame the discussion about his slump in a
slightly different way.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
He talked about getting hit on the hand last year
and how, you know, I haven't really been right since then. Right,
even though you know, he kind of when I mentioned
in the playoffs, he was like, well, you know that
writes small sample size, whatever, But he doesn't think he's
been right since now. He's not saying that it's because
of the hand, right, he didn't want to emphasize that
it's not. You know, he told me that in spring
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training they write they measured grip strength. He said his
grip was stronger this year than it was the year before.
So he's saying that it's not like a health thing,
but that the slump isn't just something that started this year,
that it's actually something that maybe goes back a year
and a half. And so that's what he's kind of
fighting against. And again and I think, you know you
mentioned the stuff with with Freddy, you know, obviously o Tani,
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I think that was a big gesture on his part, showing,
you know, Bets, hey, I believe in you. I'm going
need to change spots in the lineup with you to
get you going, and that to me is going to
be kind of the key this year. I really do
think that if they once he kind of gets going,
starts getting on base, it's a different energy that the
team has when Mookie Betts is going, and I think
everything will kind of offensively at least fall into place
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if he's if he's right.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
All right, Well, Dylan, you're always right, and thanks for
coming on today. I wouldn't go to that bar, friend,
I wouldn't go that.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Hey, let off with that.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I like, I like that.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
We let it go too easy, Dylan. You know that.
I mean, we know we couldn't do this without that.
Is that what you're saying? What's to do with without something? Correct? Correct? Well? Dylan,
you were great. You're always great, Dylan, and I usually
agree with you.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I'll take that, Okay, you guys.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
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yeah you know, Fred, I couldn't just I couldn't play
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time with Dylan.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
You know, we go at it. That's what we do.
You know what I mean? I know we do, Fred,
Come on, I know, but you wait until you just
couldn't let it go. I could the very end. Bam
had to give him one. Yes, I did. Okay, if
you're running a business and you see somebody doing something
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and it works, do you try to, I don't know,
take the parts of it that work and integrate it
into what you do, because if it works for them,
it could work for you. You have to do your
own thing. Don't get me wrong, but if you're operating
a bit business, you're always your eyes are always wide open.
You're always looking at what everybody else does. Because if
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somebody has a good idea, it's a good idea, and
then you consider how you might be able to employ it.
So if that's the case, and probably on a per
game basis, when they play the Savannah Bananas are the
best draw in baseball probably are. They sell out every
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stadium they go to. Now I've watched them. Not really
my cup of tea. I'll be the first ones that
say it now. I don't need guys break dancing. I
saw a guy on stilty he was like twelve feet
tall pitching, which is pretty bizarre, I might add, but
it's still wow, that's pretty cool. Not really my kind
of thing. It's good. It's a lot of people's things. Yeah,
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it's a lot of people's thing.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
But it's a lot of people's thing, I think, like
you said, and I will be the first to admit
too that it's it's a good watch, it's a fun watch.
It's great. But are you are Do you want to
see them twenty five times?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
And then at some point it's just like, Okay, I've
seen it. It's good, it's kind of cool. I don't
need to really go back and see it again. It's
like the Globe Trotters, right, See the Globe Trotters are
in town for a two week stet and they're playing
every other night. Right, you see them once, maybe twice.
Do you really want to go back and see the
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Globe Trotters again? Because it's just it's maybe the same thing,
same act, kind of thing. Very cool, but as a
steady diet, no, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go
three times four times to see see them.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
They come to town once.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, I go see them, but I'm not traveling around
the country to see them. I'm not going, you know,
probably the multiple games to see them.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I love what they're doing, don't get me.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I love that that they created something that is very
pretty cool, pretty fantastic, pretty extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
People that go absolutely love it, which is why they
travel around. But if you put them in one city
and they, you know, play forty games in the same city,
how many of that those people are going to continue
to come back night after night.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
But can we agree they are doing some things at work.
The other perspective on people wouldn't show up if it
wasn't work, And they are doing many things at work. Okay,
so why wouldn't you try to take some of what
they do and integrate that into what you do? No,
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you don't have a guy, a twelve foot tall guy
on stilt's pitching. Are you specifically talking about Major League Baseball? Yeah? Okay,
so what would you implement? I like this rule. I
would go with this, Of course you would. I would
go with this. I actually love to hear it first.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I know, I know it's gonna be something wacky that
you like, and you want to implement it.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Just tell me if it makes sense. Just tell me
if it makes sense. Guy fouls files the ball into
the crowd. If somebody catches the ball of guy's out.
I like that rule, file ball into the crowd. If
a fan catches the ball, it was caught, you're out.
How about that rule? No, No, I know you would
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say no, But don't you think that's a good rule. No,
I don't. I don't in a real game. No, No,
PopEd it up, somebody caught it, You're out.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, you got fifty thousand people that can catch it.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It's more than one or two people catching it, well
or not.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Somebody catching it in the crowd, A pop up five
foul ball is very likely. So and there are many
foul guys foul balls off all the time. So no,
I hate it. That would be terrible, Kevin.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Do you like that rule? No, it's ridiculous. Okay, thanks
for that. How about this? And this is this is
an idea, do more pregame, make the pre game more
of an event? What do you think of that? In
what way? What way?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Because because Dodger fans don't get there into the second
ending in anyway? So how you're gonna make What are
you gonna do for the pregame? Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
What are you gonna do all right? After batting practice?
Maybe the maybe the players going to the stands for
a while and get some autograph Kevin, what do you
think of that, I guess what fan fastest for.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
It takes players. It takes players out of the routine.
Generally speaking, I wouldn't mind it. I think a player
fan connection you could have, you can almost never have
too much of that. I just don't know if players,
especially Major League Baseball players, how a routine oriented they are,
if they'd want.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
To do something like that. But just from a fans
did it point it think it'd.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Be great if you did it once a month. Maybe
you know, say, okay, the first first game of each month,
for first home game of each month, the players will
spend an hour in the stand signing autographs. Maybe, but
to do it before every every home game, No, that
ain't happening, and players would balk at that heartbeat. You
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think Kershaw on a night he's pitching, he's going to
go in the stands and sign autographs for an hour
based on his routine, the what he the way he
gets ready.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
All right, So you don't like it, it's terrible, Okay,
how about this? Rethink the schedule? Rethink so, in other words,
instead of playing Monday Tuesday Wednesday, how about this? How
about play Monday Tuesday off doubleheader Wednesday how about that,
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and tickets for the doubleheader cost a little more because
you get to stay for a ball games. How about
that that's a good idea. Try that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Doubleheaders are never a good idea, Fred, Well, not for
the players. Not for the players. I mean doubleheaders sometimes
or you know, they are a cool thing. You know
today we're going to play too, but not as a
regular thing. Not you're saying every every Wednesday is a doubleheader. Monday,
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take Tuesday off and the doubleheader Wednesday. No, no, Kevin,
you like that idea? No?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
No, okay. So my point is there are things you
can do. It's your point. Everything I suggest you guys
don't like, but then it happens. Now, I'm not saying
they're gonna have double header Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I guarantee you none of that you just suggested from
the Savannah bananas is gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
The only thing that could, in to Rodney's point, if
you did the once a month or once every couple
of months with fan interaction and a select number of
players will be made available before a game. I could
see that happening.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I don't think that that's.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
That far fetched.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, so that could put it. One that could happen.
How about this, How about the pavilion becomes like the
World Baseball Classic. You can bring drums and stuff. I'll
be all for that.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, how about that? Bring it ring it. So the
pavilion is is the party area.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Right, I mean there opposing pictures on the hill, you're
banging those drums.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Who bring the drums because you got there gotta be
some sort of kind of regulation, right, because then you have,
you know, a thousand people and two hundred of them
are bringing drums and other people are bringing horns, and
you got and they don't know how to play together.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
So it's just a bunch of crazy noise.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Well, I know, usually when it comes to soccer, there
are there are these groups are affiliated and they set
up a deal with the stadium or the team. I
think I could think of the American Outlaws when it
comes to international soccer for the men's team, and they
have drums. But it's a group of people that come
together and they actually talk to US Soccer and they
actually figure out this whole this whole thing out. There's
a lot of logistics around it. People don't just randomly
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walk in with giant drums, you know. Yeah, it's all
set up with the team, so it would not be
randomized like that.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
No, that's what you want, Fred. It's like, oh, Bobby
brought his horn today, Yeah, and who brought the symbols? Oh, yes,
Karen brought her symbols. Let's just go play.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
But if it was set up, don't you think that's
a good idea. I do like that. I listen.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I went to the World Baseball Classic and the atmosphere
was fantastic. And I said it back then. It was like, man,
baseball needs this kind of atmosphere on a regular basis.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
And it was people standing and singing. It was like
a soccer game, it really was.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
And so I'm not opposed to having the pavilion and
center field out there just be a free fall party.
But it's got to be some sort of organization with
the music in the bands though, Fred, you can't have
eight hundred people bringing drums, all right, Well, how about
when they have the mariachi's. There's the music at Dodger
Stadium and the mariachis are out there a couple of
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times a year. Yes, yes, how about when the opposing
pitcher is pitching, they just play so you can you
can like football, you can cheer as loud as you want,
do whatever you want when the opposing pitcher is pitching,
including you can.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Do whatever you want. How about that? I mean, I'm
not asking them to go play at golf, but they
can play baseball. Why wouldn't that be great? The guys
on the mountain and they're just playing away you're trying
to pitch. I think that would be great. People banging drums,
them playing, That's what baseball needs. I like it.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I mean, that'd be okay. Sometimes it depends on what
they what they do. There's a there's a there's a
I don't know that's out on Instagram. There's a group
out there that goes to different charity tournaments. These guys
and they set up behind like the first tea, and
as the celebs are getting ready to tee off, they start
heckling them, like even in their swings, like oh look
at that dad bod you got, or they'll say whatever
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to certain and it's really something in a reference to
who they are. And like I think I saw Derek
Fisher teeing off one time and they were talking about, Oh,
how's it feeling to be a Perennial, come off the bench, guy.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You know it's something. You know.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It was just and they go deep with some guys
they called. They said Anthony Anderson. They said, you know,
look at the guy. He's like Medea had a sex change.
I mean, it was they just they would go in
on guys and it was pretty hilarious. But yeah, let
him heckle, Let them heckle.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
You can have. You know what, I think, I think
every sporting event should be like the Waste Management golf
tournament in Phoenix. That's what I think. I think golf, golf,
Golf should be that way. Golf should be like the wistman.
I think you should be able to cheer. I think
guys and golf they're two uptight, most of them, a
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lot of them, and I would I would agree with that.
I think fans should be able to just be just
talk and cheer and come on, let's go, let's go round.
Guys see it all? Yes, I mean, because you remember
when Talker Wooz was playing golf. If you heard a camera,
he'd back off. Even the sound of a camera clicking.
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Oh no, and my golf plan you'd hear a lot worse.
It's like a complete free for all. Maybe they can
start to.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Let's go to boom boom, but you know why, the
guys getting ready to you off.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That would change golf up good because the waste Management
tournament is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
See but maybe when they were putting and the marshalls
put up the sign quiet, that would be at one time,
one time you'd have to be quiet. Yeah, you gotta
be quiet on the green. But at other times you
could do it. You can have air horns. Seriously, why not?
It would be interesting. That would be good for us.
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Going a little too far with the air horns, so friend,
but that would be good for golf. It would be
more entertaining. I guarantee you this. If every golf tournament
looked like the Waste Management Tournament in Phoenix, numbers would
go up. I don't disagree. More people are more people
watch golf than watch right now and probably long term
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than ever before. If almost anything goes Yeah, you can
see the players fight with the fans when they're going
taking their backswing. Somebody yells, a guy turns around and
tells them to shut up. That'd be great.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, what if every third hole was like a The
green was set up as a miniature golf kind of hole.
You had to go up and above and down and
through through the castle and around the bind.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
It was set up. Every third hole was set up
like that.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Oh, Scottie Shuffler just missed the alligator's mouth on that.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yes, yes, Kevin, Yes, Yes.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
To win it, he's got to go over Goldilocks and
then he's got to go through snow White.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
The players would hate that, we know, they would hate it,
and the golf purists would hate that. It would hate it.
Everybody else would love it. Yes, everybody would love that.
Oh yeah, oh god, he's got to go on eighteen.
He's got that crazy windmill on eighteen to win it.
Oh man, that would be great. Yes, And I know
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people are going now you guys, shut up. No, it
would really work. And what's the goal. The goals to
get people to watch, right, there'd be no PGA, No
he wanted to watch. Pretty simple. You have a bunch
of guys going out on the weekend playing golf. Nobody
would be watching. But this, this would change it completely.
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And I think at the very least make as much
noise as you want. You watch that thing in Phoenix.
I'm not suggesting you do this, but the guys get
so drunk they fall over and they rolled down the degree.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Yeah, they have to make rules changing this past year
for that reason, they have designated drinking areas so people
can't get plastered and roll down the you know the
eighteenth green.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
That's great. Some guy could roll into the trap. You
have to pull them out. Wouldn't that be funny? Guy
rolled into the rap.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Well, that sort of thing was happening, which is what
they had to.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Multiple difference rolling down the hill and on seventeen the
part three and just people. Yeah, if you had to
drag people out, they got a hold, they got to
stop play and all that kind of stuff. It was like,
wait a minute, there's there's two drunk guys in the trap.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
We got hold on this.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Say nah, go ahead and soft play through. Play through,
you're fine. The extra obstacle, you'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
See that would be good. That would make a difference.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Take off your stroke there you go, passed out guy
on the fairway.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And you know what, look at it like this. It
would be a lot harder to win in that environment
than it is right now. If you want tournaments in
that environment, you have won a tournament because then you'd go, well, god,
the rest of the time it was so quiet, and
you know, no, this is what real golfers would say.
Every other sports got to deal with crowd noise. Why
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not golf exactly. I think we should start that. I
think you should do whatever you want in a golf tournament.
But then I'm also the guy that thinks in baseball,
if you hit it to the crowd and somebody catches it,
you're out. I don't like that one at all, I know,
But Kevin, that is a good idea.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
The whole crowd. Everybody you talk about, you know a
joke about me having a glove in Japan in which
they were playing it. I didn't bring it. They were
already in the seats, by the way, just so everybody knows.
But everybody would bring a glove. Then everybody would bring
a glove to the game, because if you're the home team,
you're bringing that glove because you know, that's an out
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if we catch it. Look at it like this, Okay,
So they're strategy involved in this plan. So the opposing
team is up in the ninth inning, the score is tied,
guy drives the ball to the left.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
That ball is gone. It's a home run. They'll take
the lead by a run, don't you say it? And
somebody out there catches it. That guy you say it. No,
that guy's out. But now wait no, now wait wait wait,
he's out. He caught it. Bottom of the ninth, score
is still tied. Your guy's at the plate, drives the
ball to the exact same spot. Here it comes. He
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puts up his glove and drops it. He drops his
glove down. He doesn't catch the ball, and the home
team wins. That's an assist for the fans. He could
have caught that ball, and if he had caught it,
the guy would have been out. You go to extra
innings instead. He made the smart play. See that's how
you do it. That would be a good plan. No,
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you're shaking your head. That's a terrible plan for it. It's,
you know what, Kevin, terrible. We don't have time to
go to it today because if we did, you know
what would happen. As it always does. We take calls
and people would say it's great, as it always does.
They do. Everybody thinks these ideas are great, and some
people say they're not, but they're afraid to admit they are.
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And I can sense that when they're talking.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
You know what, Yeah, why not do it in the
NBA too, Kawhi Leonner gets fouled, Let's get a fan
out of the stands to shoot the free throws for him.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Do that? Why, there you go.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
He gets fouled and someone that out of the stands
has to shoot the free throw for him.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
All right, don't be absurd. Okay, yeah, you know you
went too far. You push it too far. But I
asked you just think about these rule changes because I
think they would really improve the games. Actually, that's utterly ridiculous.
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I'm gonna fan shoot the free throws.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
But if that's ridiculous, but yeah, fans catching balls and
them being out is not.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
No, it's not all right. We're back to wrapping up.
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Speaker 2 (38:55):
Oh yeah, give me a little commodores to take us
out before we get out of here. I got to
give a big, gigantic, gigantic shout out to my good
friends and workout partners. I will call them my man,
Jim Katz and his wife Marty Wiley. Marty just turned eighty,
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and happy birthday to Marty. I love you, I love
your spirit, and both of you are so cool and
always good to me, and I just wanted to give
you a big shout. And just so you know, Marty
is Noah Wiley's mom. Really he looks great and yes,
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eighty years old and she's going strong and looks fabulous.
And Jim is a big fan of the show Fred
and he listens all the time, every single day, so
I just wanted to give him a shout as well.
Very cool people, man, but big Dodger fans, and they
are big fans of the show, listen every day, so
I just wanted to shout them out.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
That is great, thank you for listening, and uh for mom,
congratulations on your birthday. And did you see Noah Wiley
in the pit on Apple TV? Love it?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
It's a great what a show. It's an unbelievable show. Yeah,
it is fantastic and really well done, really well done.
It's intense, uh and it's a dality. They got picked
up and they're starting season two coming up. I think
they're filming it now. They should be picked up. That
show is Emmy Award winning.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
That was great. Yeah, all right, Ronnie, thank you appreciate
your work today. Kevin, great job as always, And Rodney,
we're back to wrap up the week tomorrow. Right on