September 10, 2025 • 39 mins
The Dodgers beat the Rockies as Emmett Sheehan had another strong start (and Teo hit 2 homeruns). Adam Silver gives his first public comments about the alleged salary cap circumvention allegations against Steve Ballmer and Kawhi Leonard.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, we go. Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a five
to seventy LA Sports, a big three hour program for
us today as the general manager of the USC football squad,
will join us during the one o'clock hour. Rodney, I'm
sure you're very acquainted with that.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah. Oh, Chad came over from USC, came to the
right side from Notre Dame. Fred, that's what he did.
Is that what happened? Yeah, yeah, you know. Notre Dame guys,
they understand it. They understand the grass is greener on
our side.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well, there's more grass, and it is greener. It is,
I'll give you that.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It is. No, but he he did unbelievable job when
he was at Notre Dame and and we went and
got him. And it's just a it's a whole different
world in college sports and especially college football nowadays. So
it'll be interesting to talk to him, all right.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Jack Harris at the Times will be on during the
two o'clock hour. The Dodgers hanging by a thread doing
what they need to do. Now they're two up on
the padres again. So Jack will be here during the
two o'clock hour. Now we are going to be at
BJ restaurant in Brewe House in Downey next Monday noon
to three. We'll be bringing the whole family down there.
(01:06):
Even Kevin will be there this week, Rodney, everybody's coming.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Everybody, Oh Monday. Does that mean Ed's coming for it?
See why I am at our family.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I didn't meant our extended family. I'm in our close family.
Oh okay, all right, but we'll be down there noon
to three. Good crowd and Irvine. Hey, we had a
good time down there. So come on out to Downey.
We've got all kinds of stuff to give away. We
have Dodger tickets to give away, we have football tickets
to give away. Uh so we've got great stuff and
we want to see you Monday noon to three. BJ's
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or restaurant in brew House in Downey. Be there or
be square. Now, Rodney, let's get to it. The Dodgers
beat Colorado last night. They hit the ball, taskar Hernandez,
very good game, Mookie staying hot. So all of that
is good. And now we can't actually say the Rockies
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are good for the Dodgers at this point. We thought
that would be the case every time they played this year.
That has not been the case. But in this weird
world that we're currently involved in. The Dodgers still haven't
fallen out of first place, and now they lead the
Padres by two with Blake Snell going tonight. So since
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everything changes on a twenty four hour basis, I think
you have to be feeling pretty good right now, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, it means are you are you Cincinnati fans as well?
Are you a Cincinnati fan right now too? Since they're
playing the Padres?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Love the Red right now? I love them?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I love them? Yeah. You know, we've said it all along.
There's certain teams that they're the remedy when you're going bad,
and the Rockies have been that the last few years,
and it wasn't always the case, because Dodgers went there
this year not too long ago and split with them.
Right they were two and two in that series when
we thought they were gonna win at least three, hopefully
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sweep them. Now they've got a chance to sweep them here,
which is great because San Francisco's coming in on a
heater Fred. San Francisco has been playing extremely well, so
the Dodgers are playing well at the right time. How
are you feeling? How are you feeling about this Dodger team,
now that you've seen them play the last couple of games,
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actually the last few games, how do you feel, how
is your meter with them going forward? Well, first of all,
I think that as they were built, we're now seeing
the way it's supposed to work with the pitching when
the pitching is healthy. This is how they were built,
because we know when the playoffs she went with pitching,
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and you're seeing the pitching now. Glassnew had a great
out on the other night, Emma Sheehan looked very good.
Snell goes tonight, Yamamoto is firing on all cylinders, Kershaw
and Otani. So the pitching is there, and we know
that that's what matters in the playoffs. It just comes
down to how is the hitting And they're hitting better now. Yeah,
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against Colorado, everybody relaxed.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It's the Rockies. Now we'll see what happens against the Giants.
I think what you can do in this situation is
just start to build momentum. Let's get a couple under
our belt, let's go in a little run. Let's now
feel that we're the team we're supposed to be, and
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everybody take a step back. I think that's what this
series against the Rockies builds, especially if they win tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, you hope so. And you know, of all people
look earlier in the year, we were talking about Mooki backs.
We gotta get Mookie. Team goes as Mooki goes, well,
that second player as good as Otani is good as
and Freddy was good see Freddie hit one last night too,
as good as those guys are. It really is about Mooki,
but it's also secondarily last year, it it was about tail.
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If tayl was going, the Dodgers were rolling, and he
was a guy that we've said all season long, he
was the X factor of this team. He bet on
himself last year, came to the Dodgers, had an unbelievable
year and really helped propel them to the World Series.
And they needed him to get going. And hopefully this
is the launching pad for him for the rest of
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the year because they need him too. And it's good
to see Max Munsey back in the lineup. We're gonna
get Tommy Edmonds back in tonight. So it's starting to
shape up, fred I think, because it's not like last year.
Last year was bullpen, right, but they did bullpen games.
Dodgers can't win off of the bullpen. Well, the offense
was providing a lot of spark for that. Those bullpen
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games this year is obviously opposite. As you mentioned it,
it's about the starting pitching, and that's what they wanted
to avoid this year was those bullpen games, especially in
the playoffs. I think they need to go back to
the old school, Fred. I think they need to let
the the starters go as long as they can go.
No more old three times to the lineup. We gotta
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get him out. They can't let them face third time
to the line one hundred pitch camp. Yeah, no, if
they can get you to the eighth, ninth, I think,
and they're rolling, I think you got to let them
go with this staff right now as they get healthy.
And he got seventeen more games left. I go with
the the the adage of I'm lett my I'm letting
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my starters go as deep as I can let them go.
Because what has been the issue this year, what has
been the main issue this year, it's been the bullpen.
So are you confident that if you pull Glass now
after six and a half or six and a third
and and the sixth you know, sixth and eighty seventh.
Then he comes in and you're you're confident the bullpen's
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gonna hold it down at this point. No. If Glass
now has got a no hitter going into the seventh,
into the eighth, I'm letting them go. I'm letting him
go like he let the Yama Moto go. I'm letting
Blake Snell go like you let Yamamoto go. I'm letting
them go. Fred. I'm letting them horses run sometimes you
got to open it up. Fred down the back stretch.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
By the way, before I comment on that, because I
wasn't on Monday, was the loss? Was the loss? When
Yamamoto had done what he had done with two outs
in the ninth, he gave up the run. They're up
three to one, they take him out. It was a
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magnificent performance, a spectacular outing, and they lose by far.
In my mind, that was the number one worst moment
this year for the Dodgers. There was nothing close to that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Not even close. You sat there with your mouth home.
That might be the worst moment and the Dodgers in
the last ten years.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, it was awful.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I thought, that is it. I don't know if you
lose the no hitter, you lose the game.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Painful, right, And that's why you're on a roller coaster
because now you know, like what a couple Okay, things
are fine and there are two up on San Diego.
My point on your idea about pitching is this, I
think there's gotta be just because of the way the
game operates today. Let him go as long as he
can go, but there's got to be a max number
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of pitches. I mean, the guy can't be out there
throwing one hundred and seventy pitches.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Rodney. No, we're not talking Satchel Page back in the
day for Red. No, No, you know, certainly not. But
if you're hovering around one hundred, you know, I think
Glass now was one hundred and one or something like that.
One three, I think one o three. I would have
let him go one more. And what was Yamamoto at
eight and two thirds? Where was he? I can't remember,
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htter than five or something like that. Yeah, at that
stage in October, I think they can go one hundred
and twenty. I do. I do. And on top of that,
Fred and we'll see what the roster looks like in October,
is that they have enough depth. If a guy needs
an extra day because he did go one hundred and twenty,
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they can afford to do that with the starting pitching
they got. Think about it, All those guys they got,
you're rattling them off, and then you throw in Otani
and Kershaw at the end. I mean, they've got five
bonafide starters that can go in the playoffs, five bonafide
guys that are hitting on all cylinders right now. And
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not to mention my man from last night image she
and who pitched the gym himself. And he's been pretty
good for the.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Dodgers, and that makes six, and that brings us to this.
He has looked pretty good, to be honest with you, Yes,
two of his last three outings have been really good.
So you say to yourself, now, what do you do
with him? I think he's gonna make the rotation, and
he'd probably be, oh, somebody's getting beat up early. We
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got to do something, right, you mean, make the roster, yeah, hell,
I mean he'll make the roster.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
But I mean, you know he's this guy, uh, the
early guy.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You know, they get up. Somebody gives up three runs
in the first inning or two whatever, get him out. Yes,
they've saved him for a rainy day another day and
bring in she And he's that guy.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
And I think he's that guy. He's that guy. He's
that guy where somebody that Jack Dryers roll. No, but
here's the difference, using your philosophy, but using your philosophy.
So if somebody gives up two in the first inning
and now the third, you're thinking to yourself, we don't
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get down by this much.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Maybe it's just not his night. Yeah, we need somebody
to stretch us, right.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And somebody that can shut this door, stretch us and
let us fight our way back in.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
That. That was Dustin May's role running, wasn't it. That
was a little bit of Dustin May's role where he
would come in in the second inning and third inning
and give you three to four innings. Uh no, I see,
he could definitely do that. He could definitely do that.
And he's a guy that probably could. Remember we were
talking about pairing Otani with somebody because you don't know
if you want to play, he's with O'tany. I think
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he's got you compare with Otani and if you know,
you let O'tany go and if you're only gonna want
to go and let him go five, then you know
Shean's coming in for two three.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, here's another question. Then first, Shean's got to be
on the team. He's going to be that emergency we're
in trouble early guy. And when I say we're in
trouble early, I don't mean you're down seven to nothing.
That's not gonna happen. If somebody's having a bad outing,
I think you're gonna Shan give us six. It's just
like you're starting the game. If he came into the
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second inning, he could pitch himTo the eighth.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Think about that.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, but now let's say they are in the uh
that first round, the best of three round. You need
three pitchers. I'm sure matchups will determine it. Snell, Glass no,
Young Momoto are Snell?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Glass, now Young Momoto?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Okay, kershawt no Otani, No, you only need three. You
probably only need two. You realize with their staff in
a seven game series. In a seven game series, they
would have six starters if they chose to.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What they what they can throw at you.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, six starters if they chose to go with six,
if everybody remains healthy. That's remarkable. That's how they were
built during the Upsidon.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Go ahead, dude, because of that, do you do you
do you think that they keep the bullpen the way
it is or with the luxury of having six darters
that Oh my god, it's the seventh any we need
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somebody to shut it down. They bring in. I mean,
we've seen Kershall do it before. But you bringing on
Tani or somebody that hasn't pitched in, especially in that
three game series, right, three game series, So you go
snell Glass, Now, y'amamoto, Well you still got Otani and Kershaw.
Are you gonna utilize them or are you gonna save
him for the next series? How you know? Would you
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consider using them in a relief effort as opposed to
saving them for the next series?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, you go for it.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'm not bringing Otani. You bringing on Tani on the
seventh if you're like a one run lead, and.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But remember but if you Glass, remember the hitting rules,
So you have to bring him into the ninth right
right right right arts he can he can remain. Yeah,
aside from Otani, are you kidding me? All bets are
off three game set. I'm not waiting for anything. I
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gotta win this one. So that means somebody gets tagged.
Em Machin's right in, or he can come even come
into the sixth inning, no problem. Oh I would not
pool around with that. And maybe you look at it differently,
but I'm not pulling around with that. I go right now.
That means if Kershaw has to pitch in the seventhies in,
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go out there and give me two winnings.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, give me two. Now. If the if the bullpen
had been lights out all season, then you maybe a
different story. But it's been the starting pitching that's been
lights out. That that has been the strength of your team.
So in a three game series, and it's a tight
three game series, you know were going into game three
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and you got Otani and Kershaw has haven't pitched, you're
not gonna empty that tank.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
If you're going into game three, you bring a.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Lot of not having pitched. You bring it in Otani
in the ninth. You can do that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You could do that.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They did it in the WBC.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I know am a Chian. He'll be ready to go too.
In a three game set, they have six.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Pitchers, say y'all. Mamodo goes eight or he goes seven,
and you got you got Kershaw and Otani sitting over there?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Close out?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Are they doing? Yeah? Close out game? Are they doing
the Walker? Bueller? I'm going down to the bullpen?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well, Kershall would, yea, Kershall would? I'm going down there.
Let me know if you need me. But they wouldn't
do that initially. I mean, look, what relievers you really trust?
Vessia yeah, glad he's back?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Who else? Who else do you trust?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Really?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
The great Jack Dryer love him? Do you do you
trust uh? Kirby Yates? Do you.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Mm hmm even after the last night? I don't. Okay,
you trust Tanner Scott m mm hmmm. Then you're answering
your own question. Yeah, you'd go to kursh Banda. Let's
go Banda. You trust Banda a little bit? Okay, you
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got two guys. Now you trust who else? I'm I'm
leaning I'd like to see Kopek a little bit more.
I think I can trust him. Okay, So right now
we try trying to trying, and I still trust regardless
of his up and down, I still trust him.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, So we trust uh Drier banda.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's the.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You're saying Copek and trying it right, Yeah, yeah, Okay,
there's five guys, there's five you trust.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, and you still got the luxury of Imachian, right,
how many are you gonna keep? You know, Dryer and
Robeleski gonna make the it'll make the roster. I think
it'll come down to matchups. Sazaki is still lingering out there. Well,
that's the thing about Sazaki. He had a couple of
bad outings, and he had a couple of good ones.
He had a really good one yesterday. What do you
do given what I saw? You know, he Dave Robert
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said they're gonna have a conversation with him. Uh, with
the coaches. Everybody's gonna talk about what he should do.
Right now, I don't feel confident enough bringing him up
and putting him in.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He had good outing, good outing. Last outing was a
good one, but the outings before that he struggled. I
don't know. The game's on the line unless you really
believe for whatever you've seen, however he's performed, we're gonna
get the last performance out of him instead of the
ones prior to that. I do not put him on
the roster. I do not give him a spot because
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we named five pitchers, Scott and Kirby Yates, they're gonna
be on the pitching staff. Ran yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Then you have six starters. That's thirteen pitchers. Who else
is gonna be there? That means Casparius won't be there?
And that's sad because he's earned it.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, but they sent him down, Yeah he did, so
I don't know if he comes back up. You know,
Vessie is there. Bessie's got to get the work. They're
gonna keep Banda around. These good left handed arm they
can throw ninety nine and I just it's hard. Okay,
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let me ask you this. If you because they both
have struggled, if you got to pick one or the other,
who are you picking Tanner Scott? Are you Kirby Eates? God?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That was my outside voice. God. And I gotta pick one.
I have no choice.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I gotta pick one. Gotta pick one, last spot on
the Rastatta gotta pick one.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's tough. I mean, that's really tough. I don't know.
I guess Tanner Scott has a better.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Lefty righty situation. Okay, think about this. You know, in
those situations, especially in the playoffs, you need you need
somebody to come in and get a strikeout. That's your No.
I'm talking about between Kirbyates, because that's what you need.
You know, you're late inning guy. You need strikeouts. You
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don't want somebody you know, second and third or somebody
coming in putting the ball getting put in play. You
need you need somebody's got strikeout ability. All right, it's
gonna be. I need to strike out, or at least
I need the possibility of a strikeout. Let's put it
like that. The better possibility of a guy that can
strike you know, one or two guys out, or even
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the side.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay, well, the possibility of at least striking one guy out,
one guy out. Okay, I'll pick Tanner Scott. If I
have to pick one, I pick him. I think he
has the better possibility of striking someone out before someone
hits the ball out of the park against him. With
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Kirby Yates, I'm not sure he strikes the guy out
before he hits it out.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, he seems like, yeah, there would be more contact
with Kirby Yates, right, Yeah, that's what I would do.
And I think you've got to lean a little bit,
especially in the postseason. That lefty lefty matchup that comes
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up a lot. It's always good to have more left
handers if you can, right, That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But Yates is gonna make the squad. Yeah, they can't
keep him off the playoff roster.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
No, I don't think so either.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
No, he's the second best closer on the market this
year if you look at the numbers from last year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tanner,
Scott and Yates. Dodgers got them both both. Not been
a really productive year, but they've got them both. Do
not forget. We are at BJ's or a restaurant and
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we have heard from the NBA about the Clippers alleged
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violation of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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Speaker 2 (22:42):
Come coming back at you on a hump Day, Rodney p.
Fred Rogan on a Wednesday. Yes, winding down, what's happening? Sports?
Is heating up? Fred? Really? Is? Uh? All right?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So we told you about the story of the Clippers
accused of circumventing the NBA salary cap involved Kawhi Leonard,
a company that Steve Bomber had invested in, and money
that was paid for Kawhi Leonard as an endorser for
basically doing nothing. And some of the league thought, okay,
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obviously we know what happened here. Bomber paid the company,
the company paid Kawhi, and they were able to circumvent
the collective bargaining agreement. So this thing caught fire, became
a fire storm, and the NBA decided they've got to
look into it. So here is Adam Silver addressing the situation.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Number One, the burden is on the league if we're
going to discipline a team, an owner, a player, or
in any of the constituent members of the league. I think,
as with any process that requires a fundamental sense of fairness,
the burden should be on the party that is an
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essence bringing those charges. And then, in terms of your
specific question about circumstantial evidence, I was only quasi joking
with someone earlier that you know, when people talk about
a smoking gun, that's obviously circumstantial. It means the gun
is still smoking, it must have recently fired. I'd say,
in the case of the league, we and our investigators
look at the totality of the evidence. So I think
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whether mere appearance, like just by the way those words read,
I think as a matter of fundamental fairness, I would
be reluctant to act if there was a mere appearance
of impropriety. I think the goal of a full investigation
is to find it if there really was impropriety. Also,
in a public facing sport, the public at times reaches
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conclusions that later to turn out to be completely false.
And so I do would want anybody else in situation
mister Bomber is in now, or Kawhi Leonard for that matter,
to be treated the same way I would want to
be t if people were making allegations against me. So
the answer is, it's we're not a court of law
at the end of the day. Either that we have
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brought authority to look at all information and to weigh
it accordingly.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
All right, and you take away from that what that
they're gonna investigate. They're not just say I gotta go
out hearsay and just in the window or just somebody
said this or somebody reported this, let's just go act
right away. It's gonna take some time. And I'm I'm
suspecting that is not anytime soon. This is a slippery
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slope bread because if you're going to if you come
after this, and you come after Balmer who and Adam
and I talked about this on Monday, if if you
it's not like he owned the majority of that company.
He owned three percent, right you know, now, putting up
fifty million dollars to him is putting up one hundred
dollars to most people. And it's three percent ownership in
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a company had no board seat. I don't believe he
didn't really have any day to day actions with the company.
It was just an investment and then the company turned
around and hired Kawhi as a spokesperson. And as you know,
as weird as that looks, I mean, it sounds like
some of the college stuff that you see back in
the day, where you know, a guy goes gets paid
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to go watch the sprinklers turn on and off, and
he gets paid for that job. Because Kawhi never really
performed any services. Well, the company went bankrupt at some point,
and I don't know if it went bankrupt as they
were preparing something for Kawhia do or during that time
or after that time, but he never really performed any
of the duties. They're gonna have to investigate what that
contract look like. My thing is there are so many
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companies that these owners billionaires are a part of that
are sometimes passive, passive investments, passive income. That if you're
going to do that, then you got to investigate everybody.
Then you got to go and look into everybody's situation.
And Adam brought it up that that Nicola Jokic, I
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forget what it was company? What's the company Kevin and
he mentioned in Denver, I forgot what it was. They
sponsored the arena and the stadium and everything, and the
team right, they had a big sponsor to the team,
and they did a big deal with with Nicola Jokic,
and not sure if the owners a piece of that
or whatever. Sofi is a big sponsor of this Sofi stadium, right,
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So Justin Herbert doing a deal for Sofi? Are the
Chargers circumvitting his salary by convincing Sofi to do a
deal with Justin Herbert? I did a on a much smaller,
much smaller scale. I used to have deals with Ford
in Detroit. Now the Lions are owned by the Ford family.
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So is that, you know, supplementing my salary by me
doing it an endorsement deal for Ford? I don't know.
So my thing is, with so much money being thrown
around there and every team is owned by most every
team is owned by billionaires. Now that if you look
at their portfolio, they've got some involvement in something and
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a lot of different companies. Are you really going to
go in with a magnifying glass and go, okay, wait, wait,
wait a minute. You you own a oh, you you
own a piece of Honda, or you on a piece
of Tesla or if Chevrolet or whatever it may be.
And now he's got to deal with that. Did you
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were you involved in that or were you not? So
it's it's it. I tend to think that it is
something they're going to investigate, but nothing's going to come
out of it.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I agree. I agree with you one hundred percent. As
we all are creatures of the moment. Now technology has
made us that way. We are creatures of the moment.
We come to a conclusion immediately we hear something, we
come to a conclusion. Now we shouldn't do that. Most
people don't even wait to find out what the facts are.
They see the picture, they read what was said, They
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hear one thing and they've decided I read something today.
Do you know how long the attention span of a
human being is?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Now?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
What is the attention span?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Meaning?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What will you focus on for the shortest period of time?
What is your attention span? Is it a minute? Is
it thirty seconds? What is your attention span? The average
person's attention span meaning they will make up their mind
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probably this fast.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
What do you think it is? Ten seconds? Eight seconds? Oh,
I with clothes, eight seconds. That is how long our
attention span is. We, as human beings, are now able
to focus on something for eight seconds before making another
decision for shifting our attention.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
That is how long our attention span is. So when
you first hear the story of Steve Balmer, the failed
company and Kawhi Leonard, and you hear that, given you
have eight seconds to process it, you go, he's guilty,
I guarantee you people, and that's it. Of course, of
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course Balmer paid the company who paid kaw Why of
course he did eight seconds. By the way, we have
all this new information. I don't care about that. I
already decided. I made my decision. Yeah, but if you
just read a little more, you might look at it differently.
What Adam Silver was saying is just because the public
believes something doesn't mean it is, doesn't mean it's not,
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but doesn't mean it is, and they have an obligation
to actually look into it. You know what you think
is folly or what I think, Well, he's guilty, he's
in it, and he did it, he didn't do it.
That actually affects somebody's life and their livelihood. So who's
ever really deciding what happened is going to take their
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time because I assure you if you were the person
they said took money for doing nothing and Steve Balmer
put it in and Bomber will be fined five million
dollars and lose twenty draft picks or whatever could happen.
I'm sure that he wants them to take more than
eight seconds to make that decision.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, but in that journalism, one on one for it,
or at least if you're a writer, used to be
what the editor and putting the headline out there for
you and people would see the headline, make an opinion,
read the first paragraph, go oh yep, that's.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It, that's it without reading the full story.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And what's his name, Pablo right? Who broke this? Was
it his intention of getting the full story out there?
Or was it the intention of breaking this story and
breaking this news?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Breaking the story? Yeah, of course, with as much depth
as you could provide, but breaking the story. Do you
know Adam Silver's explanation, which basically said nothing other than
they're going to investigate, was longer than eight seconds. His
explanation of what they were going to do, what truly
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is nothing except investigating, was longer than eight seconds. Think
about that. Longer than eight seconds for him to say,
what you lose focus of? After eight seconds? Isn't that interesting?
Maybe that was on purpose, and I'm sure it was.
He's really smart. He just wanted to confuse people.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
You're saying he's a lawyer, getting into a lawyer speak.
He said something in ninety seconds. He could have said
in three Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yes, we're gonna investigate smoking gun is smoking gun, and
we don't go off of just smoking gun.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
We're going to do our due diligence. Thank you very much, exactly.
That's all you got to say. And I agree with you, Rodney.
I don't think anything's gonna happen. I will say, by
the way.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I will say, by the way before we move on.
He answered the way he answered, And I didn't have
the question in the clip, and I guess I could
have left it in there. He got a long wooded
question about it and like preponderance of evidence and circumstantial
evidence and how does the NBA investigate. So that is
why he went so in depth with the answer. He
was trying to make sure that he answered the question
as specifically as possible.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
But he did it. At the end he said, and
now to answer your question, yeah, because he went he
went like thirty seconds of just describing what you know
an actual investigation is right, all of that, and then
he said, now to address your question, no, yeah, so
yeah he did lawyer speak all.
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two nights Day, Fantasy Springs. Here's the question. We haven't
hit Halloween obviously, that will be followed by Thanksgiving and
then we'll wrap it up at the end of the
year with Christmas. Are you someone or anyone you know,
Rodney that starts putting their Christmas decorations up now?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yes, yes, I know a lot of people that start
early with the Christmas decoration. In fact, I know some
people that never take their lights down. Now they don't
always know flash all the lights, but there's lights hanging
on their house and around their house yearly, and sometimes
like weekends, they'll they'll let the lights on and put
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the lights on. But but yeah, I know several people
we actually live in a neighborhood where everybody participates in
Christmas and lights and also participates in Halloween as well,
So it's very festive in our neighborhood. So you actually
get letters that if you don't put lights up, we'll
put them up for you if you want. Really, that's
(36:32):
how real it is over here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Well, I can understand if you leave them up outside
all year long, but don't always turn them on.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I'm talking about on the inside of your house. You
start decorating for Christmas in September. There are people that do.
But if you think about the way this works, now,
what is coast already playing Christmas music? Don't they start
in July? Seriously don't they?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I think they do or August?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I mean they start really soon. And now you'll start
seeing stores promotions soon. It won't even be for Thanksgiving,
it'll just be for the holidays. You know, Holly does
a lot of work for Hamemark and their Bread and
Butter is. They're Christmas movies, and she's been in probably
a dozen of them, And it used to be they
started in December. Now those Christmas movies start late October
(37:23):
early November, if not before that. So yeah, it's getting
earlier and earlier people getting into the Christmas spirit. Now
when Holly's in those movies, because we all know the formula.
Somebody's at home right there, at home, and someone else
comes to town. So let's say Holly's working for her
parents at home and in a little town and the
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guy comes in and he's visiting, but they lock eyes.
They don't really like each other, but then they like
each other and at the end they kiss under the
missilete many people, how many people Hallmark movies that Holly's
been in?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
In theory here she ended up marrying, oh Mary, none
but getting back together with I would say half of
the movies you did, meeting someone new would be the
probably be the other half. But yeah, not end up marrying.
(38:25):
But that happens a lot, you know, high school sweethearts
go away for ten years and then come back and
they find each other in their home little town and
end up marrying each other, and yeah, yeah it happens.
That's the Hallmark way. Rarely, I don't think ever, will
you see an unhappy ending in the home?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Oh no, No, somebody's always kissing at the end. Yeah,
are they look at each other's eyes and give them
the big hug.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yes, yes, or Family is reunited. Yeah in the movie
in the end, yeah, yes, It's wholesome and happy and
people love it.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
You know how it's going to end every one of them.
But I can't tell you how many people watch those
Hallmark movies.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Oh they make a killing. They Yeah, they got a
formula and they don't deviate from it. It is uh
and they've been doing it for years and people absolutely
love it. People are I mean, I'm talking people of
all ages, all walks of life that just are glued
and can't wait for the Hallmark season just to really
get kicking away, especially when it comes to Christmas. Okay,
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when we come back, I think this will be fascinating.
The general manager of USC Football, someone Rodney, knows pretty well,
that's next
Okay, we go. Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a five
to seventy LA Sports, a big three hour program for
us today as the general manager of the USC football squad,
will join us during the one o'clock hour. Rodney, I'm
sure you're very acquainted with that.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah. Oh, Chad came over from USC, came to the
right side from Notre Dame. Fred, that's what he did.
Is that what happened? Yeah, yeah, you know. Notre Dame guys,
they understand it. They understand the grass is greener on
our side.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well, there's more grass, and it is greener. It is,
I'll give you that.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It is. No, but he he did unbelievable job when
he was at Notre Dame and and we went and
got him. And it's just a it's a whole different
world in college sports and especially college football nowadays. So
it'll be interesting to talk to him, all right.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Jack Harris at the Times will be on during the
two o'clock hour. The Dodgers hanging by a thread doing
what they need to do. Now they're two up on
the padres again. So Jack will be here during the
two o'clock hour. Now we are going to be at
BJ restaurant in Brewe House in Downey next Monday noon
to three. We'll be bringing the whole family down there.
(01:06):
Even Kevin will be there this week, Rodney, everybody's coming.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Everybody, Oh Monday. Does that mean Ed's coming for it?
See why I am at our family.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I didn't meant our extended family. I'm in our close family.
Oh okay, all right, but we'll be down there noon
to three. Good crowd and Irvine. Hey, we had a
good time down there. So come on out to Downey.
We've got all kinds of stuff to give away. We
have Dodger tickets to give away, we have football tickets
to give away. Uh so we've got great stuff and
we want to see you Monday noon to three. BJ's
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or restaurant in brew House in Downey. Be there or
be square. Now, Rodney, let's get to it. The Dodgers
beat Colorado last night. They hit the ball, taskar Hernandez,
very good game, Mookie staying hot. So all of that
is good. And now we can't actually say the Rockies
(02:02):
are good for the Dodgers at this point. We thought
that would be the case every time they played this year.
That has not been the case. But in this weird
world that we're currently involved in. The Dodgers still haven't
fallen out of first place, and now they lead the
Padres by two with Blake Snell going tonight. So since
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everything changes on a twenty four hour basis, I think
you have to be feeling pretty good right now, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, it means are you are you Cincinnati fans as well?
Are you a Cincinnati fan right now too? Since they're
playing the Padres?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Love the Red right now? I love them?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I love them? Yeah. You know, we've said it all along.
There's certain teams that they're the remedy when you're going bad,
and the Rockies have been that the last few years,
and it wasn't always the case, because Dodgers went there
this year not too long ago and split with them.
Right they were two and two in that series when
we thought they were gonna win at least three, hopefully
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sweep them. Now they've got a chance to sweep them here,
which is great because San Francisco's coming in on a
heater Fred. San Francisco has been playing extremely well, so
the Dodgers are playing well at the right time. How
are you feeling? How are you feeling about this Dodger team,
now that you've seen them play the last couple of games,
(03:22):
actually the last few games, how do you feel, how
is your meter with them going forward? Well, first of all,
I think that as they were built, we're now seeing
the way it's supposed to work with the pitching when
the pitching is healthy. This is how they were built,
because we know when the playoffs she went with pitching,
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and you're seeing the pitching now. Glassnew had a great
out on the other night, Emma Sheehan looked very good.
Snell goes tonight, Yamamoto is firing on all cylinders, Kershaw
and Otani. So the pitching is there, and we know
that that's what matters in the playoffs. It just comes
down to how is the hitting And they're hitting better now. Yeah,
(04:05):
against Colorado, everybody relaxed.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It's the Rockies. Now we'll see what happens against the Giants.
I think what you can do in this situation is
just start to build momentum. Let's get a couple under
our belt, let's go in a little run. Let's now
feel that we're the team we're supposed to be, and
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everybody take a step back. I think that's what this
series against the Rockies builds, especially if they win tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, you hope so. And you know, of all people
look earlier in the year, we were talking about Mooki backs.
We gotta get Mookie. Team goes as Mooki goes, well,
that second player as good as Otani is good as
and Freddy was good see Freddie hit one last night too,
as good as those guys are. It really is about Mooki,
but it's also secondarily last year, it it was about tail.
(05:01):
If tayl was going, the Dodgers were rolling, and he
was a guy that we've said all season long, he
was the X factor of this team. He bet on
himself last year, came to the Dodgers, had an unbelievable
year and really helped propel them to the World Series.
And they needed him to get going. And hopefully this
is the launching pad for him for the rest of
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the year because they need him too. And it's good
to see Max Munsey back in the lineup. We're gonna
get Tommy Edmonds back in tonight. So it's starting to
shape up, fred I think, because it's not like last year.
Last year was bullpen, right, but they did bullpen games.
Dodgers can't win off of the bullpen. Well, the offense
was providing a lot of spark for that. Those bullpen
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games this year is obviously opposite. As you mentioned it,
it's about the starting pitching, and that's what they wanted
to avoid this year was those bullpen games, especially in
the playoffs. I think they need to go back to
the old school, Fred. I think they need to let
the the starters go as long as they can go.
No more old three times to the lineup. We gotta
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get him out. They can't let them face third time
to the line one hundred pitch camp. Yeah, no, if
they can get you to the eighth, ninth, I think,
and they're rolling, I think you got to let them
go with this staff right now as they get healthy.
And he got seventeen more games left. I go with
the the the adage of I'm lett my I'm letting
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my starters go as deep as I can let them go.
Because what has been the issue this year, what has
been the main issue this year, it's been the bullpen.
So are you confident that if you pull Glass now
after six and a half or six and a third
and and the sixth you know, sixth and eighty seventh.
Then he comes in and you're you're confident the bullpen's
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gonna hold it down at this point. No. If Glass
now has got a no hitter going into the seventh,
into the eighth, I'm letting them go. I'm letting him
go like he let the Yama Moto go. I'm letting
Blake Snell go like you let Yamamoto go. I'm letting
them go. Fred. I'm letting them horses run sometimes you
got to open it up. Fred down the back stretch.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
By the way, before I comment on that, because I
wasn't on Monday, was the loss? Was the loss? When
Yamamoto had done what he had done with two outs
in the ninth, he gave up the run. They're up
three to one, they take him out. It was a
(07:33):
magnificent performance, a spectacular outing, and they lose by far.
In my mind, that was the number one worst moment
this year for the Dodgers. There was nothing close to that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Not even close. You sat there with your mouth home.
That might be the worst moment and the Dodgers in
the last ten years.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, it was awful.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I thought, that is it. I don't know if you
lose the no hitter, you lose the game.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Painful, right, And that's why you're on a roller coaster
because now you know, like what a couple Okay, things
are fine and there are two up on San Diego.
My point on your idea about pitching is this, I
think there's gotta be just because of the way the
game operates today. Let him go as long as he
can go, but there's got to be a max number
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of pitches. I mean, the guy can't be out there
throwing one hundred and seventy pitches.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Rodney. No, we're not talking Satchel Page back in the
day for Red. No, No, you know, certainly not. But
if you're hovering around one hundred, you know, I think
Glass now was one hundred and one or something like that.
One three, I think one o three. I would have
let him go one more. And what was Yamamoto at
eight and two thirds? Where was he? I can't remember,
(08:52):
htter than five or something like that. Yeah, at that
stage in October, I think they can go one hundred
and twenty. I do. I do. And on top of that,
Fred and we'll see what the roster looks like in October,
is that they have enough depth. If a guy needs
an extra day because he did go one hundred and twenty,
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they can afford to do that with the starting pitching
they got. Think about it, All those guys they got,
you're rattling them off, and then you throw in Otani
and Kershaw at the end. I mean, they've got five
bonafide starters that can go in the playoffs, five bonafide
guys that are hitting on all cylinders right now. And
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not to mention my man from last night image she
and who pitched the gym himself. And he's been pretty
good for the.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Dodgers, and that makes six, and that brings us to this.
He has looked pretty good, to be honest with you, Yes,
two of his last three outings have been really good.
So you say to yourself, now, what do you do
with him? I think he's gonna make the rotation, and
he'd probably be, oh, somebody's getting beat up early. We
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got to do something, right, you mean, make the roster, yeah, hell,
I mean he'll make the roster.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
But I mean, you know he's this guy, uh, the
early guy.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You know, they get up. Somebody gives up three runs
in the first inning or two whatever, get him out. Yes,
they've saved him for a rainy day another day and
bring in she And he's that guy.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
And I think he's that guy. He's that guy. He's
that guy where somebody that Jack Dryers roll. No, but
here's the difference, using your philosophy, but using your philosophy.
So if somebody gives up two in the first inning
and now the third, you're thinking to yourself, we don't
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get down by this much.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Maybe it's just not his night. Yeah, we need somebody
to stretch us, right.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And somebody that can shut this door, stretch us and
let us fight our way back in.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
That. That was Dustin May's role running, wasn't it. That
was a little bit of Dustin May's role where he
would come in in the second inning and third inning
and give you three to four innings. Uh no, I see,
he could definitely do that. He could definitely do that.
And he's a guy that probably could. Remember we were
talking about pairing Otani with somebody because you don't know
if you want to play, he's with O'tany. I think
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he's got you compare with Otani and if you know,
you let O'tany go and if you're only gonna want
to go and let him go five, then you know
Shean's coming in for two three.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, here's another question. Then first, Shean's got to be
on the team. He's going to be that emergency we're
in trouble early guy. And when I say we're in
trouble early, I don't mean you're down seven to nothing.
That's not gonna happen. If somebody's having a bad outing,
I think you're gonna Shan give us six. It's just
like you're starting the game. If he came into the
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second inning, he could pitch himTo the eighth.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Think about that.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, but now let's say they are in the uh
that first round, the best of three round. You need
three pitchers. I'm sure matchups will determine it. Snell, Glass no,
Young Momoto are Snell?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Glass, now Young Momoto?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Okay, kershawt no Otani, No, you only need three. You
probably only need two. You realize with their staff in
a seven game series. In a seven game series, they
would have six starters if they chose to.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What they what they can throw at you.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, six starters if they chose to go with six,
if everybody remains healthy. That's remarkable. That's how they were
built during the Upsidon.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Go ahead, dude, because of that, do you do you
do you think that they keep the bullpen the way
it is or with the luxury of having six darters
that Oh my god, it's the seventh any we need
(13:09):
somebody to shut it down. They bring in. I mean,
we've seen Kershall do it before. But you bringing on
Tani or somebody that hasn't pitched in, especially in that
three game series, right, three game series, So you go
snell Glass, Now, y'amamoto, Well you still got Otani and Kershaw.
Are you gonna utilize them or are you gonna save
him for the next series? How you know? Would you
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consider using them in a relief effort as opposed to
saving them for the next series?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, you go for it.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'm not bringing Otani. You bringing on Tani on the
seventh if you're like a one run lead, and.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But remember but if you Glass, remember the hitting rules,
So you have to bring him into the ninth right
right right right arts he can he can remain. Yeah,
aside from Otani, are you kidding me? All bets are
off three game set. I'm not waiting for anything. I
(14:10):
gotta win this one. So that means somebody gets tagged.
Em Machin's right in, or he can come even come
into the sixth inning, no problem. Oh I would not
pool around with that. And maybe you look at it differently,
but I'm not pulling around with that. I go right now.
That means if Kershaw has to pitch in the seventhies in,
(14:33):
go out there and give me two winnings.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, give me two. Now. If the if the bullpen
had been lights out all season, then you maybe a
different story. But it's been the starting pitching that's been
lights out. That that has been the strength of your team.
So in a three game series, and it's a tight
three game series, you know were going into game three
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and you got Otani and Kershaw has haven't pitched, you're
not gonna empty that tank.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
If you're going into game three, you bring a.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Lot of not having pitched. You bring it in Otani
in the ninth. You can do that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You could do that.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They did it in the WBC.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I know am a Chian. He'll be ready to go too.
In a three game set, they have six.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Pitchers, say y'all. Mamodo goes eight or he goes seven,
and you got you got Kershaw and Otani sitting over there?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Close out?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Are they doing? Yeah? Close out game? Are they doing
the Walker? Bueller? I'm going down to the bullpen?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well, Kershall would, yea, Kershall would? I'm going down there.
Let me know if you need me. But they wouldn't
do that initially. I mean, look, what relievers you really trust?
Vessia yeah, glad he's back?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Who else? Who else do you trust?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Really?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
The great Jack Dryer love him? Do you do you
trust uh? Kirby Yates? Do you.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Mm hmm even after the last night? I don't. Okay,
you trust Tanner Scott m mm hmmm. Then you're answering
your own question. Yeah, you'd go to kursh Banda. Let's
go Banda. You trust Banda a little bit? Okay, you
(16:37):
got two guys. Now you trust who else? I'm I'm
leaning I'd like to see Kopek a little bit more.
I think I can trust him. Okay, So right now
we try trying to trying, and I still trust regardless
of his up and down, I still trust him.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, So we trust uh Drier banda.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's the.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You're saying Copek and trying it right, Yeah, yeah, Okay,
there's five guys, there's five you trust.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, and you still got the luxury of Imachian, right,
how many are you gonna keep? You know, Dryer and
Robeleski gonna make the it'll make the roster. I think
it'll come down to matchups. Sazaki is still lingering out there. Well,
that's the thing about Sazaki. He had a couple of
bad outings, and he had a couple of good ones.
He had a really good one yesterday. What do you
do given what I saw? You know, he Dave Robert
(17:35):
said they're gonna have a conversation with him. Uh, with
the coaches. Everybody's gonna talk about what he should do.
Right now, I don't feel confident enough bringing him up
and putting him in.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He had good outing, good outing. Last outing was a
good one, but the outings before that he struggled. I
don't know. The game's on the line unless you really
believe for whatever you've seen, however he's performed, we're gonna
get the last performance out of him instead of the
ones prior to that. I do not put him on
the roster. I do not give him a spot because
(18:11):
we named five pitchers, Scott and Kirby Yates, they're gonna
be on the pitching staff. Ran yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Then you have six starters. That's thirteen pitchers. Who else
is gonna be there? That means Casparius won't be there?
And that's sad because he's earned it.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, but they sent him down, Yeah he did, so
I don't know if he comes back up. You know,
Vessie is there. Bessie's got to get the work. They're
gonna keep Banda around. These good left handed arm they
can throw ninety nine and I just it's hard. Okay,
(18:52):
let me ask you this. If you because they both
have struggled, if you got to pick one or the other,
who are you picking Tanner Scott? Are you Kirby Eates? God?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That was my outside voice. God. And I gotta pick one.
I have no choice.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I gotta pick one. Gotta pick one, last spot on
the Rastatta gotta pick one.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's tough. I mean, that's really tough. I don't know.
I guess Tanner Scott has a better.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Lefty righty situation. Okay, think about this. You know, in
those situations, especially in the playoffs, you need you need
somebody to come in and get a strikeout. That's your No.
I'm talking about between Kirbyates, because that's what you need.
You know, you're late inning guy. You need strikeouts. You
(19:58):
don't want somebody you know, second and third or somebody
coming in putting the ball getting put in play. You
need you need somebody's got strikeout ability. All right, it's
gonna be. I need to strike out, or at least
I need the possibility of a strikeout. Let's put it
like that. The better possibility of a guy that can
strike you know, one or two guys out, or even
(20:18):
the side.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay, well, the possibility of at least striking one guy out,
one guy out. Okay, I'll pick Tanner Scott. If I
have to pick one, I pick him. I think he
has the better possibility of striking someone out before someone
hits the ball out of the park against him. With
(20:40):
Kirby Yates, I'm not sure he strikes the guy out
before he hits it out.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, he seems like, yeah, there would be more contact
with Kirby Yates, right, Yeah, that's what I would do.
And I think you've got to lean a little bit,
especially in the postseason. That lefty lefty matchup that comes
(21:07):
up a lot. It's always good to have more left
handers if you can, right, That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But Yates is gonna make the squad. Yeah, they can't
keep him off the playoff roster.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
No, I don't think so either.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
No, he's the second best closer on the market this
year if you look at the numbers from last year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tanner,
Scott and Yates. Dodgers got them both both. Not been
a really productive year, but they've got them both. Do
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(21:45):
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(22:09):
violation of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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Speaker 2 (22:42):
Come coming back at you on a hump Day, Rodney p.
Fred Rogan on a Wednesday. Yes, winding down, what's happening? Sports?
Is heating up? Fred? Really? Is? Uh? All right?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So we told you about the story of the Clippers
accused of circumventing the NBA salary cap involved Kawhi Leonard,
a company that Steve Bomber had invested in, and money
that was paid for Kawhi Leonard as an endorser for
basically doing nothing. And some of the league thought, okay,
(23:20):
obviously we know what happened here. Bomber paid the company,
the company paid Kawhi, and they were able to circumvent
the collective bargaining agreement. So this thing caught fire, became
a fire storm, and the NBA decided they've got to
look into it. So here is Adam Silver addressing the situation.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Number One, the burden is on the league if we're
going to discipline a team, an owner, a player, or
in any of the constituent members of the league. I think,
as with any process that requires a fundamental sense of fairness,
the burden should be on the party that is an
(24:01):
essence bringing those charges. And then, in terms of your
specific question about circumstantial evidence, I was only quasi joking
with someone earlier that you know, when people talk about
a smoking gun, that's obviously circumstantial. It means the gun
is still smoking, it must have recently fired. I'd say,
in the case of the league, we and our investigators
look at the totality of the evidence. So I think
(24:24):
whether mere appearance, like just by the way those words read,
I think as a matter of fundamental fairness, I would
be reluctant to act if there was a mere appearance
of impropriety. I think the goal of a full investigation
is to find it if there really was impropriety. Also,
in a public facing sport, the public at times reaches
(24:46):
conclusions that later to turn out to be completely false.
And so I do would want anybody else in situation
mister Bomber is in now, or Kawhi Leonard for that matter,
to be treated the same way I would want to
be t if people were making allegations against me. So
the answer is, it's we're not a court of law
at the end of the day. Either that we have
(25:08):
brought authority to look at all information and to weigh
it accordingly.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
All right, and you take away from that what that
they're gonna investigate. They're not just say I gotta go
out hearsay and just in the window or just somebody
said this or somebody reported this, let's just go act
right away. It's gonna take some time. And I'm I'm
suspecting that is not anytime soon. This is a slippery
(25:36):
slope bread because if you're going to if you come
after this, and you come after Balmer who and Adam
and I talked about this on Monday, if if you
it's not like he owned the majority of that company.
He owned three percent, right you know, now, putting up
fifty million dollars to him is putting up one hundred
dollars to most people. And it's three percent ownership in
(25:59):
a company had no board seat. I don't believe he
didn't really have any day to day actions with the company.
It was just an investment and then the company turned
around and hired Kawhi as a spokesperson. And as you know,
as weird as that looks, I mean, it sounds like
some of the college stuff that you see back in
the day, where you know, a guy goes gets paid
(26:21):
to go watch the sprinklers turn on and off, and
he gets paid for that job. Because Kawhi never really
performed any services. Well, the company went bankrupt at some point,
and I don't know if it went bankrupt as they
were preparing something for Kawhia do or during that time
or after that time, but he never really performed any
of the duties. They're gonna have to investigate what that
contract look like. My thing is there are so many
(26:45):
companies that these owners billionaires are a part of that
are sometimes passive, passive investments, passive income. That if you're
going to do that, then you got to investigate everybody.
Then you got to go and look into everybody's situation.
And Adam brought it up that that Nicola Jokic, I
(27:05):
forget what it was company? What's the company Kevin and
he mentioned in Denver, I forgot what it was. They
sponsored the arena and the stadium and everything, and the
team right, they had a big sponsor to the team,
and they did a big deal with with Nicola Jokic,
and not sure if the owners a piece of that
or whatever. Sofi is a big sponsor of this Sofi stadium, right,
(27:28):
So Justin Herbert doing a deal for Sofi? Are the
Chargers circumvitting his salary by convincing Sofi to do a
deal with Justin Herbert? I did a on a much smaller,
much smaller scale. I used to have deals with Ford
in Detroit. Now the Lions are owned by the Ford family.
(27:54):
So is that, you know, supplementing my salary by me
doing it an endorsement deal for Ford? I don't know.
So my thing is, with so much money being thrown
around there and every team is owned by most every
team is owned by billionaires. Now that if you look
at their portfolio, they've got some involvement in something and
(28:16):
a lot of different companies. Are you really going to
go in with a magnifying glass and go, okay, wait, wait,
wait a minute. You you own a oh, you you
own a piece of Honda, or you on a piece
of Tesla or if Chevrolet or whatever it may be.
And now he's got to deal with that. Did you
(28:37):
were you involved in that or were you not? So
it's it's it. I tend to think that it is
something they're going to investigate, but nothing's going to come
out of it.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I agree. I agree with you one hundred percent. As
we all are creatures of the moment. Now technology has
made us that way. We are creatures of the moment.
We come to a conclusion immediately we hear something, we
come to a conclusion. Now we shouldn't do that. Most
people don't even wait to find out what the facts are.
They see the picture, they read what was said, They
(29:11):
hear one thing and they've decided I read something today.
Do you know how long the attention span of a
human being is?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Now?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
What is the attention span?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Meaning?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What will you focus on for the shortest period of time?
What is your attention span? Is it a minute? Is
it thirty seconds? What is your attention span? The average
person's attention span meaning they will make up their mind
(29:42):
probably this fast.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
What do you think it is? Ten seconds? Eight seconds? Oh,
I with clothes, eight seconds. That is how long our
attention span is. We, as human beings, are now able
to focus on something for eight seconds before making another
decision for shifting our attention.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
That is how long our attention span is. So when
you first hear the story of Steve Balmer, the failed
company and Kawhi Leonard, and you hear that, given you
have eight seconds to process it, you go, he's guilty,
I guarantee you people, and that's it. Of course, of
(30:28):
course Balmer paid the company who paid kaw Why of
course he did eight seconds. By the way, we have
all this new information. I don't care about that. I
already decided. I made my decision. Yeah, but if you
just read a little more, you might look at it differently.
What Adam Silver was saying is just because the public
believes something doesn't mean it is, doesn't mean it's not,
(30:50):
but doesn't mean it is, and they have an obligation
to actually look into it. You know what you think
is folly or what I think, Well, he's guilty, he's
in it, and he did it, he didn't do it.
That actually affects somebody's life and their livelihood. So who's
ever really deciding what happened is going to take their
(31:11):
time because I assure you if you were the person
they said took money for doing nothing and Steve Balmer
put it in and Bomber will be fined five million
dollars and lose twenty draft picks or whatever could happen.
I'm sure that he wants them to take more than
eight seconds to make that decision.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, but in that journalism, one on one for it,
or at least if you're a writer, used to be
what the editor and putting the headline out there for
you and people would see the headline, make an opinion,
read the first paragraph, go oh yep, that's.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It, that's it without reading the full story.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And what's his name, Pablo right? Who broke this? Was
it his intention of getting the full story out there?
Or was it the intention of breaking this story and
breaking this news?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Breaking the story? Yeah, of course, with as much depth
as you could provide, but breaking the story. Do you
know Adam Silver's explanation, which basically said nothing other than
they're going to investigate, was longer than eight seconds. His
explanation of what they were going to do, what truly
(32:25):
is nothing except investigating, was longer than eight seconds. Think
about that. Longer than eight seconds for him to say,
what you lose focus of? After eight seconds? Isn't that interesting?
Maybe that was on purpose, and I'm sure it was.
He's really smart. He just wanted to confuse people.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
You're saying he's a lawyer, getting into a lawyer speak.
He said something in ninety seconds. He could have said
in three Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yes, we're gonna investigate smoking gun is smoking gun, and
we don't go off of just smoking gun.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
We're going to do our due diligence. Thank you very much, exactly.
That's all you got to say. And I agree with you, Rodney.
I don't think anything's gonna happen. I will say, by
the way.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I will say, by the way before we move on.
He answered the way he answered, And I didn't have
the question in the clip, and I guess I could
have left it in there. He got a long wooded
question about it and like preponderance of evidence and circumstantial
evidence and how does the NBA investigate. So that is
why he went so in depth with the answer. He
was trying to make sure that he answered the question
as specifically as possible.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
But he did it. At the end he said, and
now to answer your question, yeah, because he went he
went like thirty seconds of just describing what you know
an actual investigation is right, all of that, and then
he said, now to address your question, no, yeah, so
yeah he did lawyer speak all.
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In a statement about the album, he said, to rebuild,
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two nights Day, Fantasy Springs. Here's the question. We haven't
hit Halloween obviously, that will be followed by Thanksgiving and
then we'll wrap it up at the end of the
year with Christmas. Are you someone or anyone you know,
Rodney that starts putting their Christmas decorations up now?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yes, yes, I know a lot of people that start
early with the Christmas decoration. In fact, I know some
people that never take their lights down. Now they don't
always know flash all the lights, but there's lights hanging
on their house and around their house yearly, and sometimes
like weekends, they'll they'll let the lights on and put
(36:10):
the lights on. But but yeah, I know several people
we actually live in a neighborhood where everybody participates in
Christmas and lights and also participates in Halloween as well,
So it's very festive in our neighborhood. So you actually
get letters that if you don't put lights up, we'll
put them up for you if you want. Really, that's
(36:32):
how real it is over here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Well, I can understand if you leave them up outside
all year long, but don't always turn them on.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I'm talking about on the inside of your house. You
start decorating for Christmas in September. There are people that do.
But if you think about the way this works, now,
what is coast already playing Christmas music? Don't they start
in July? Seriously don't they?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I think they do or August?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I mean they start really soon. And now you'll start
seeing stores promotions soon. It won't even be for Thanksgiving,
it'll just be for the holidays. You know, Holly does
a lot of work for Hamemark and their Bread and
Butter is. They're Christmas movies, and she's been in probably
a dozen of them, And it used to be they
started in December. Now those Christmas movies start late October
(37:23):
early November, if not before that. So yeah, it's getting
earlier and earlier people getting into the Christmas spirit. Now
when Holly's in those movies, because we all know the formula.
Somebody's at home right there, at home, and someone else
comes to town. So let's say Holly's working for her
parents at home and in a little town and the
(37:46):
guy comes in and he's visiting, but they lock eyes.
They don't really like each other, but then they like
each other and at the end they kiss under the
missilete many people, how many people Hallmark movies that Holly's
been in?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
In theory here she ended up marrying, oh Mary, none
but getting back together with I would say half of
the movies you did, meeting someone new would be the
probably be the other half. But yeah, not end up marrying.
(38:25):
But that happens a lot, you know, high school sweethearts
go away for ten years and then come back and
they find each other in their home little town and
end up marrying each other, and yeah, yeah it happens.
That's the Hallmark way. Rarely, I don't think ever, will
you see an unhappy ending in the home?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Oh no, No, somebody's always kissing at the end. Yeah,
are they look at each other's eyes and give them
the big hug.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yes, yes, or Family is reunited. Yeah in the movie
in the end, yeah, yes, It's wholesome and happy and
people love it.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
You know how it's going to end every one of them.
But I can't tell you how many people watch those
Hallmark movies.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Oh they make a killing. They Yeah, they got a
formula and they don't deviate from it. It is uh
and they've been doing it for years and people absolutely
love it. People are I mean, I'm talking people of
all ages, all walks of life that just are glued
and can't wait for the Hallmark season just to really
get kicking away, especially when it comes to Christmas. Okay,
(39:36):
when we come back, I think this will be fascinating.
The general manager of USC Football, someone Rodney, knows pretty well,
that's next
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