September 11, 2025 • 35 mins
Ned Colletti hops on the show as the Dodgers get set to face the Giants this weekend. Also, there are new details on the Kawhi/Ballmer/Aspiration controvesy surrounding a Clippers' minority owner
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Dory continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on a five
seventy l A sports coming up in a bit. We'll
talk more about the happenings on Monday when we'd Bjay's
Restaurant in brew Housing Downy. But now let us bring
on the man in the big chair, our dear friend
Ned Coletti and Ned. Good afternoon to you.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey, gentlemen, how's things going. You're feeling better?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Fred, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm good. I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I haven't Wavered, Ned, I haven't waivered this year. There
have been some anxious moments, but I haven't waivered.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh, you're just you're just trying to get meet away. Okay, okay,
he's been all over there.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Actually. But one week it's the bullpen. Next week it's
the hitting, next week it's the whatever. I think he's
gonna blame my son Argie. At one point I heard
he gives the best.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That yes he does.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Jerry Harrison gave him a shout the other night.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That was great.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Don't hurt yourself getting on and off the bandwagon. It
was moving too quick.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, I mean I look at it like this hopefully. Well,
first of all, Ned, you know, so they beat Colorado.
They beat him pretty good, and you're going, oh, god,
so what they're Colorado, But like three weeks ago, they
couldn't beat a bad team. So I take that as
a positive step. Ned Now, let's see if the momentum
continues against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yep, Well, I think that they're in a really good spot.
You know, I just like, I like the team. I
liked the depth, and yeah, we haven't seen what we've
you know, we thought we'd be in one hundred wins
by now and you know, you're at eighty two. But
I still like what they've got coming back, and Sasaki
sounds like he's gonna, you know, have a chance to
help this club. The starting pitching has been great. You know,
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bullpen's got a little bit wearing there, but you might
have some reinforcements with that. So I think they're in
a good spot. I think everybody in the league is
probably looking at them thinking, you know that they've they've
slept long enough, and I think that that that's where
it's going.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, you mentioned, you know, they're going to have an abundance,
you know, of of pitching, and the starting pitching has
been the strength over especially over the last couple of months,
and Blake Snell looked fantastic last night, ned, how do
you use Speaking of that, how do you use Imachian
because he's looked pretty good as well in his last
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few outings. How do you use him in the in
the postseason? Is he a long, long guy? Is he
a guy if a starter gets in trouble? Is he
a back end guy? How do you use him? Because
he has been pretty good?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, you got to get out obviously, you know. The
postseason is all about figuring out how you're going to
get it out here and out there, how you're going
to stop rallies. Those are the keys to it, and
a lot of times your middle relief gets gets put
on the back burner. Okay, who's your closer? Who you
got setting up, who's your starting rotation? The middle relief
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is where many series is are one and loss. So
if you're an extra starter, so to speak, and right now,
you know they've got great health with their starting pitching,
and they pitched terrifically. One of those, maybe two of
those are gonna end up pitching in the middle of
the game. But you got quality, You got to warm
up a little different. You got to prepare a little
bit different. But once you once you get that figured out,
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you know it's it's a breeze. Because most of these guys,
even though it's not an eight to nine inning pitching
performance anymore, in this this day and age, you know
you can sell go five. Well you may have to
go too, but you can go too with some with
some everything you've got type of thing. I think they're
at a terrific spot. And I know they've you know,
they've played against some terrible teams and they haven't played well.
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We've all watched it. But this team is built for October.
And I think that the pitching, you've got to have
stud pitching, and that's what they've got. One other team
in the National League has the starting pitching that they've
got on a day by day by day basis. Other
teams may have one guy, they don't have as many
as the Dodgers do. And that's just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Ned you're sitting in a big chair, and we talked
about this earlier in the show, but you're sitting in
a big chair and you're building a roster, and we
know good pitching is the key in the playoffs. Would
you build if you could have or had the resources
a staff like this. In other words, if you have
this and your guys hit and something cataclysmic doesn't occur,
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you're gonna win. Is this the way you build championship teams?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think you've probably just just quoted a conversation from
Dodgers State and from this past winter. I think that's
the thought process. That's how you build it, and you
build it for really this time of year. These teams
have never been built for a long long time. Have
never been.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Built for the regular season.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, use a regular season, and you got to play
the games, you got to get to the postseason, qualify
all that stuff. But they've never been built, in my opinion,
for April, May, June, July, August, and most of September.
They're built for what comes after that in the September,
if you need it in the month of October, that's
how they're built. And whether Sasaki pitched hardly at all,
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it didn't pitch well. If he's what they think he
is in the month of October, boom all you wanted.
Blake Snell, how much time has he missed ready for October?
Stays healthy? Exactly what she's signed. So that's where this
team is built. And so I think what you just said,
I think that's exactly what they were saying back in
the fall of the year and the winter of the years.
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They decided to go after who they want after.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Uh hey, ned give. Given the fact that the bullpen
has struggled throughout most of this season, I think Bessie
has been a big part of keeping it in order.
And you know, certainly Banda had his moments early on,
but obviously Tanner Scott and Kirby Yates have struggled most
of the season. That being said, going into October, and
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when you get into the playoffs, you have a t
in the sea to let the starters go a little
bit longer.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Because of that, well, I think to one of the
earlier points, you know, are you going to need a
five man rotation for a series? No, you're not. So
you've already taken at least one starting pitcher of quality
and put them in the bullpen. This team's got six
quality starters, so you're really putting two of those guys
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in the bullpen. Plus you got you got to show
Hey to, you know, to use probably judiciously, but in
almost any situation you want. You know, he's not going
to be afraid of the moment. You know, he's not
going to be afraid of even closing out a game
in October if that's what they need him to do. So,
I think as you as you look at the team
built for the regular season, you know, you expect a
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lot out of Tanner Scott, you expect a lot out
of out of you know, their their bullpen, and they've
they've given them a lot of innings, no question. But
when you get to the postseason, you're going to look
at it in a different way. Who are the all
of these people that can that have been starting, that
can come in relief, stop an inning and and get
and get ready in a heartbeat to do something. And
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I think that as you, as you look at the
depth of the pitching staff, both the starters and the relievers,
and those who have not performed for the entire season,
let's say, because of injury, because of lack of performance,
but are starting to show it today. You nothing better
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than that. As you put a team together, you much
have to have it rather have it that way than
the way most teams are gonna have it, where you
know they're they're gonna start to get exhausted because they
put the big, the big race on for six months,
and so I think it's a different thing. I think
you're gonna find starting pitching that's gonna pitch out a
bullpen and everybody moves back. It's just a down o effect.
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It's like adding of a middle of the order bat.
Everybody's gonna move up a little bit and everybody's gonna
move down a little bit to put a bat in
the middle of the order. Same thing with your pitching.
Some of those starters are going to be in the pen,
and some of the guys in the pen are going
to be sitting upstairs watching it on ED.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
We talked to her about this as well. How about Kim,
how about giving him some ad bats now here in
the stretch run let him play. I mean he is
Rodney called him an X factor. I said he was
a difference maker. I mean he's the kind of guy
I think that can really help you. Why not give
him some advats.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I think they will. I think they'll you'll continue to
see him get a little bit more activity. And I
think he is the X factor, especially because of the speed.
When you think about playing playoff baseball and tight games.
Being able to steal a base, being able to go
first to third. That's his game, going first to home.
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Maybe if an outfield he gets a late jump out
the ball. All those things, they're key components to it.
You've got to have that ingredient to your team. You know,
this team doesn't really run a whole lot. You know,
Hey runs far less than a year ago, still runs
pretty good, and uh, you know, and and Kim runs well, okay,
Mookie hasn't really run that much this year. But when
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you get to the postseason, you've got to be able
to manufacture or run. You're going to find yourself in
a three three game or a three to two game
and figure out, how are we going to generate something here?
How are we going to generate something that doesn't have
a home run attached to it? And you know, most
teams right now score off the home run before they
score off anything. You rarely see rallies anymore, but he
is somebody that can that can prolong a rally, and
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also he puts pressure on defense. There's no doubt a
player with his ability and his his speed and the
way he can run and figure out a situation. Just
like showhyy. They put pressure on defense, put pressure on
the pitcher out of the stretch. These are all kind
of tiny things, if you you know, if you if
you're not necessarily a student of the game, but they're
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to me they're huge because if you've got a relief
pitcher and you've got kim on first, you even show hey,
we've got somebody that can run that picture. Now out
of the stretch is thinking about two things at one time.
He's getting out of the stretch and making sure that
guy doesn't get an extra step, but also making a
pitch to one of the great guys in the lineup.
That stuff is game changing, and it just has it's
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game changing to take your starting pitching and put it
in the bullpen and say, hey, don't give us five
innings today, one to five, give us five and six,
give us the fifth inning and the sixth inning, or
give us four and five and then come in with
maybe another starter for five and six or six and seven.
Everything gets changed. And as long as you've got quality
to choose from which they do, and the quality is
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starting to rise to the top, you're gonna have many,
many choices and you'll play, be able to play matchup
baseball a pit and be able to really maybe have
different players and get ahead of the game here a touch,
But you got different series you're going to have to
play to get to the final, to get through the
World Series. You may have a couple different roster moves
depending on everybody being healthy and who you're plying and
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how they match up. But it's better to have that
than to be, you know, Phillies right now ahead of them.
We talked about that last week. But you know they're
missing Wheeler. He's done. Trey Turner, who's a great base runner.
We know him very well. He got a bad hamster
once he coming back, is he going to come back
and be like he was? Other teams have got those
issues that Dodgers have had April through through September. Dodgers
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are getting rid of those issues.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, yeah, And I kind of I listened to some
talking heads around the league from time to time that
and they, I think almost to all of them were
talking about the Dodgers now getting healthy, the starting pitching
being as good as it's been, but now the roster
is getting healthy with MUNTHSI back Edmund back, Kim back
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and how teams like the Padres and some other teams
have missed the boat and had opportunities to gain ground
on the Dodgers and they didn't do it when they
had the opportunity. If the Dodgers stay like they are,
it's something to me, like you've always talked about in
a four game series, and I'm not talking about the
three game because that's you know, obviously can go anyway.
But in a four game series, how do you withstand
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the onslaught of not only the Dodgers starting pitching as
we talked about, but the lineup as you as they
seem to get themselves going with Mookie being hot and
now taoscar getting back to form, you get Edmund back.
I mean, it is a gauntlet of a lineup. And
are they putting other teams on notice now? Like this
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is the dotar team we feared at the beginning of
the season.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I don't think there's any doubt. I think that's exactly
what it is. And I think as you start to
name names and you start to figure out, okay, what
are our choices, and you know there's there's three players
that get all the praise, so to speak, but you
know you can't sleep on Max. Max has been huge
for this team. Tiel, same thing, and on and on.
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And I think that as you as you draw out
that one, including Tommy Evans, as you draw out dead
lineup and you're you're doing some of the dance scouting,
you know you're gonna go into your meeting with your
pitching staff and you're gonna say, I'm not sure where
the weak link is right now. Were the weak links
earlier in the season, sure were, But right now, I mean,
you've got guys that are there that play for this
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time of year. It's like the late the late Pete
Rose used to say. He says, hey, I play for
the month of October. I love baseball, so I played
the other six months, but I'm playing for the month
of October. And that's the way this team is built.
And you're starting to see see it come to fruition.
I think they're in a great spot, not.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
If that picture's meeting is going on and they sit
there and say, I don't see the whole, I don't
see the weak spot, I don't see the easy out.
What does that do to a pitcher or a battery.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, they know they can't they have. They have really
no margin of error. And it also goes for their
defense too. You can't be given them extra outs. You've
got a double play, you can turn. You better turn it. Okay.
You can keep a runner nice feet less on a
certain situation, you better keep ninety feet less. It puts
pressure throughout the entire opposition because your defense can't give
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out extra outs and pictures. You know, well, I bet
we see it. We're gonna start to see the long
a bad. We're gonna start to see the patients at
the plate where they're gonna make that picture. Throw something
down the middle of the plate. They may work a
corner here and there, but if the umpire is not
giving them a little bit extra, they're gonna have to
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throw strikes. And as we've seen for a long time now,
that is when the Dodgers are at their best, they
will grind it out. They will make you make pitches.
They will get into your bullpen. If if you're afraid
to throw a strike, you you'll you'll be you'll be
called out, It'll be over they'll be they'll be all
over you. And so that's a huge piece to this too.
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It's a pitch by pitch, situation, every pitch I talk about,
you know, the kaleidoscope a lot. You know, only guys
our age know what a kaleidoscope is. But a pitch
the kaleidoscope, you know what I'm talking about. Right, every
pitch will change that, it will change the view and
they're gonna start to grind it out. You watch, They'll
start grinding on at bats. And I don't care if
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you're the Brewers or the Phillies or anybody in San Diego.
I don't think they can they can hold up to that.
They don't have the type of pitching that is a
Yama modal or a Snell. They don't have that. And
so those in Glasnow has been great. In Curson's been
terrific all year. You go on and on and show Hey,
let's say in Now Sasaki, come on, we were you
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gonna do your damage if through the opposing team every situation, Oh,
no doubt. The opposing team has to take advantage of
every situation in order to succeed, and they can make
zero mistakes because the chances that Dodgs will catch in
those mistakes. That's in New York Yankees in the in
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the last game, of the World Series. Made the mistakes
in their fifth inning boom Done, couldn't make a playoff
third centerfielder, dropped the ball, pitch it and cover first base. Done?
And that's what they do.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Uh ned? You mentioned the six starting pitching, then two
of them have to go to the pen in a
in a three game series with which it looks like
the Dodgers aheaded and then a four game or a
seven game series.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
What's your rotation?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
And I know we'll talk about this a lot, but
what as it is today, what's your rotation?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well? I think you I think Kersh obviously earned a spot.
I think you know, Yamamoto and Snell those are three,
uh Glass now too? I mean the way he has pitched,
you know, it's I'm not sure what order you're going
to put him in because that would really dictate on
you know, how they're really feeling and who you're playing.
But you know it's I think it's those four. And
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you know if you got if you only need three
because it's the best of three, Well, who can who
can warm up the quickest? Who can pitch out of
the pen? Not everybody can do it, Okay, there's only
a select few of starting pitchers that can get hot
quick come into a situation and maybe with runners on,
maybe they don't, you know, they they limit they limit
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their pittures out of a stretch throughout the entire season
because of their ability to keep guys off base and
not walk a lot of people. You may come into
a situation with two guys on immediately, it's a different mindset.
So which one of those if it's four, which one
of those four can come into that situation because that's
what you're looking for. You know, you're not just looking
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at start and then you can't predict a game like that,
but because you may need somebody to come in with
tu on and nobody else, who is the best that
can that can get up hot, that can that can
come in with a situation, adjust to it on the fly,
not work their way into it. There's a lot of
starting pitchers will work their way in to the game.
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We've all here this all season long, right from any
any team good with a good picture. If you don't
get them early, you're not going to get them, right.
We hear that one hundred times a year. If you
don't get them early, you're not going to get them well.
You got to have that. The guy that's going to
the bullpen from your rotation has got to be the
pitcher that you don't say that about because you're not
going to get them early because if you get them
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early and he's pitching out of the pen, you may
have gotten them. So it's going to be that type
of pitcher. Hope that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It makes sense. And using that, I don't know who
that guy is. I don't know if it's Glass now.
I think I think it could be Otani, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
With you, but I don't have any doubt.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yes, okay, but you know the deal. He goes into
pitch and then that's that. You know, Yeah, if he
stops pitching, you've lost the DH.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yes, well you're gonna have to pick that spot. But
you know, there's there may might be nobody who is
a clear cut choice. But as they as they go
through it, and they they know their picture, their players
pictures people better than anybody. They probably on an order
of preference as to who they think could be the
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most successful. And they probably had conversations too between Mark
Pryor and Dave and the staff, what do you think
if this is a situation to get them mentally prepared
to think about it. Probably not today on September eleventh,
but you know the September twenty first or twenty fifth,
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start to think about Okay, if you're out of the pen,
how do you feel about that? And you have you
done it before? Have you had success with it? Do
you think that you can get to get your mind
in the right place that if that's what we need
you to do, we're going to call on you. It's
like the six or seventh game of a playoff series
where they say, okay, all hands on deck. Another thing
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we hear all the time, right, everybody's available. Okay. Well,
sometimes that's in the second game of a series or
the third game of a series. It's not always at
the very very end. Sometimes you got to win that game.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
All right. Well, that thanks for coming on, Thanks for
the info as always, and we will talk again soon.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
All right, gentlemen, always a pleasure, Stay happy, though, But
I like you in this mood.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I want to hang in there.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I love it.
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Speaker 3 (20:53):
Hey, welcome back. I'm gonna throwback Thursday, two hour sprint
for us to date Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan, many thanks
to our man, the man in the big chair, the Godfather,
Ned Coletty, always bringing the insight and the knowledge. Man
can listen to Ned all day long.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Rodney, exciting news, very exciting news. Thrilled to share it
with you. You know our remote show Monday in Downey
BJ's Restaurant and brew House. If you don't know about it,
we'll be down there noon to three. Kevin has some
things you'd like to discuss about the upcoming show on Monday,
and I don't want to. I don't want to stop him.
So Kevin, what can you tell us about what's happening
on Monday? B Jason Downey, That's a lot. I like it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Serve it up, got good stuff, Fred, Wait to tease
that up, baby, Kevin, you have.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Anything ask me the question again, Fred, I'm sorry, I
was editing something.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
What's the question? Apparently you and Kevin didn't have a
conversation about this. You know it's scary him out there.
You know it's scary. Apparently we did so, Kevin.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yes, I just set this up because I know you're
really excited about the show Monday at Bjason Downey.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Thrilled about it. We love Downey, we get a great
time out turnout, and Downy absolutely.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
There it is seeing. So we did discuss this, and
I was just saying, you know, some of the stuff
that we may have planned on Monday. I wanted to
turn it over to you because you wanted to talk
about it.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I did not want to talk about it necessarily, Fred,
because we're still working on it.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
But thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Fred.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I was right here, right across away from Kevin, and uh,
that never came up.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Never did I say, Ronnie.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
You said me if I was in studio, Yes, yes,
I'm here, and you want to talk when you come
back on the air.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
And then you said this is what I'm going to
talk about. At no time did you mention I want
you to say this. I didn't say what if I
put words in somebody's mouth just now.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I did not. I just said, I know Kevin's got
some stuff he wants to scare.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
You can't weasele your way out of this one, Fred,
I was right here.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
I was right.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
If you all right, Ronnie, what do you playing for
the show Monday?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
I don't know, Fred, it's your show?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You tell us. Well, I'm just saying. I mean, you
guys are contributors, Rodney, and I want you involved. So
if you have any idea to throw me in that
one too.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Fretz trying all avenues Rodney to save his bacon because
he's got nothing nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, Rodney, and I want want to know what Kevin
has the thing? No, they didn't have that coming.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
I don't know what to say, so let's ask Kevin.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I just wanted to say.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
You set him up. You say Kevin up. He wasn't
ready for that. He was doing something else and he
heard his name and said, did Fretz just say my name?
And I wasn't paying attention. I mean, I never pay attention.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
What do you say? Oh? Thank you? So Kevin? You
are going to be there Monday? Is that the Well?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yes, I will be there.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
That's all it matters, Bobby.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
I think it really matters if the two of you
are going to be there more than anything else. Really,
I don't think anybody's coming there to see me.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I think a lot of people show up for you.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I highly doubt it.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
A lot of people do. They only come up and
say hello to you.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I will say that people do come to see you
because you're the one that is answering the calls when
people call in and they want a bit about Fred
or or they just there calling trying to get their
opinion on when we take calls. So yeah, they have
conversations with you, Kevin. So actually they do like to.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
People call off air Rod need to complain about Fred.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I bet I bet they call off air to complain
about me.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Oh did I use my inside voice?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh Jesus. All right, anyway, Kevin, I just play's working.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I'm working on a few things Fred. But I don't
want to say anything out loud because I don't want
to jinx it.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, fine, But I would like to make a suggestion
because I thought it played very well last time. Okay,
I think we should play one live game because I
thought that played very well. Okay, that's fine. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
We love involving the audience and getting them on the
air with us when we're ad at remote.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
That's fine. Linnelle played, Yeah, you have to get warmed
up a little bit. He plays a bit, a little bit,
a little bit. Well, I think the concern he had
was he didn't realize you have to say something to win.
I think that was the issue.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Well, also, you don't get penalized for the wrong answer.
I think he didn't understand that part of it.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Oh okay, all right, Yeah, you will not get penalized
for the wrong answer. If it's really stupid, we'll let
you have it. But you won't get penalized if your
answer is so bad that it brings us to the
brink of tears laughing, We'll just give you the prize anyway.
How does that sound? Two ways you can win. You
can win, or you can be so bad that we
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can't believe it and we'll give you the prize.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
We gotta play Know your Squad again at Downey BJS.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Lef's up to Kevin. I'll see, well, no, he'll determine
the game.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
It'll be one of our throwback games from the past.
I'll say that and maybe know your squad, who knows
could be real? If gays, he will see all.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Right Monday in downy noon detree BJ's Restaurant in brew House,
home of the world famous Puzuki dessert. We will see
you there, all right. So the plot thickens when it
comes to the Clippers, Kawhi Leonard and the NBA collective
bargaining agreement. In the salary cap, Steve Balmer said, point blank, hey,
I don't know anything. We stick by the rules. We
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don't do anything. I don't know if he said we
welcome an investigation, but he's got an investigation. And here's
what it turned up. Now you tell me. So this company,
Aspiration filed for bankruptcy. They were like three hundred million
bucks in a hole or something. They were in big trouble.
They're out. And Steve Balmer said, because they had entered
(26:41):
into an agreement with the Clippers, as a matter of fact,
they were gonna be the uniform logo. They swindled them.
Steve Balmer used the word swindled. Okay, So anyway, all
hell's breaking loose. Everybody that's made an investment has made
an investment. They're losing it. But according to reporting by
(27:05):
Pablo Torre. Clipper's minority owner Dennis Wong made an almost
two million dollar investment in Aspiration as everything was going south.
So the last thing you would do is invest any
money in this. But he made a two million dollar
investment in Aspiration, and they turned around and paid Kawhi
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Leonard a million, seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars as
required through his endorsement contract with the company. So there
you go. Now, let's think about that the company is failing, Rodney,
You and I are investors in a company it is failing.
They are in big trouble, and we even get win
(27:53):
that they may file bankruptcy. We've got money in and
we're not getting any money back, and we put real
money in. Let's say we each put in five million
dollars the company is failing. Would either one of us,
as the company is failing and we know we're not
going to get our money back, would either one of
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us go, yeah, we'll invest another two million right now, Well,
we know we're not going to get our initial investment back.
Would we do that?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Was that the case? That's the case that he knew
that the company was it was failing, It was failing
at this, but they didn't ask for two million dollars
to get us back on you know, back on float
and get ready, you know, to to rekindle what we started,
or to help jumpstart us to make this work. Or
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was it it was failing, there's no turning back, there's
no way to recover. And he still put two million
dollars in it. That makes a difference. You know, There's
been a lot of times where companies are failing. They're
flailing and they're in the hole, and somebody comes in
and rescue them and gives them money. Yet they take
you know, eighty percent of the company once they do that.
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It happens all the time. But I don't know if
in this situation, the company was failing to the point
where there was at the point of no return and
he made two million dollar investment.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
It was so bad they couldn't make payroll. They were failing.
They couldn't make payroll. It was more than give me
two million and we'll save this thing or figure it out.
They couldn't make payroll.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
And they took the two million and paid Kawhi one
point seventy five.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Correct as was required in his endorsement deal. Now, if
the company's failing, you and I are endorsers for them.
If the company is failing, they're going to file bankruptcy.
Then everybody, the creditors go in and say, all right,
you know you ought me to show me that. Yeah,
and you get pennies on the dollar and it's done. Yeah, Okay.
He didn't get pennies on the dollar. He got what
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he was supposed to get, the twenty eight million. Well
that payment of one point seven five which was due
to him at that time, But he didn't get the
twenty eight million. I don't believe he got all twenty
eight I don't know that and I have not seen that.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
So one point seventy five versus twenty eight million his
pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
For him, Well, that was part he was supposed to
get his installments at one point seventy five, So that
was an installment.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
We know he got paid more of that. Did we
know he got any more than one point seventy five.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
At that particular time?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
No, or any time do we know yet?
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Well, he was getting paid up until that point, and
then the payment didn't come through, which reportedly Uncle Dennis
got upset about that started this entire process, and he
eventually got this payment, this installment of one point seventy
five which he happened.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I'm preaying it makes a difference how much of the
twenty eight million, because this was back in twenty twenty two, right, so.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That's when it started.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It was a four year deal or twenty eight million
dollars if I remember right. How much of that twenty
eight million dollars did he actually get paid? Then I
don't have right, right, he was supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Paid seven million annually in quarterly installments of one point
seventy five million. He received his first payment July sixth,
twenty twenty two, that we do know, December of twenty
twenty know that. How come we don't know when he
got another one? Well, that's that's fair. It's not been
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reported this thing went south fast, though, this company went
south fast.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I think the assumption is he was getting his payments
up to a point, and when he stopped getting them,
that's when he started making noise about it. And that's
around the time that the team or the company was
going through bankruptcy and they purportedly allegedly scrambled to try
to find a way to make sure they made him
whole on his.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Deal, whole on the installment, hole on hole.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
At the very least on that on that particular part
of the installment.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yes, okay, it's interesting. I'll tell you it's interesting now
to be fair, To be fair, maybe Uncle Dennis made
so much noise they just wanted to pay him off.
And for whatever reason, Dennis Wong, knowing who's a shrewd guy,
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Steve Ballmer's college roommate, a shrewd guy and has money,
thought I'll throw two million in here. He's a one
percent owner of the Clippers, I'll throw two percent. I'll
throw two million in here and maybe save the company.
Now that doesn't make sense. He put the money in
so Kawhi could get his That doesn't mean the Clippers
circumvented the salary cap, but that from reading all of this, Kevin,
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would you agree he put the money in?
Speaker 5 (32:46):
It seems fishy. But again, this goes off with what
Adam Silversea yesterday like, is it we have to have
heartline evidence, not just particularly a smoking gun situation that's
out of his own mouth.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
A quarter of the facts we're going off this one
revelation can we wait till we get all the facts in. Well,
we can keep talking about it as the facts come
in just two hours for us today, so we'll be
(33:21):
back to wrapping up.
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Speaker 3 (33:48):
Hey, Yes, back to wrap it up, Rodney, Pete, Fred
Rogan on a beautiful Thursday, two hour show today. So
we got to keep it moving, Fred, Yeah, we really do,
because we have two minutes left, so we got we
gotta cram everything here in the next two minutes.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Rodney. Yeah, we're done. Yes, we're off the air before
we go there. Anything you want to say, No, all right,
nothing to say here, Fred, nothing to say. It's just
I think everybody needs to take a deep breath in
this country.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
That's all boy.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That's fair. I'll tell you that. Really off day for
the Dodgers. So they're headed to San Francisco. They've got
the Giants coming up, and now the dreaded rivalry is renewed.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yes it is, Yes it is. But the focused on
San Diego the last few years. But the Giants may
be coming. This is gonna be intense. This may be
like a little bit about the old days, Fred with
the Giants and the Dodgers. So you know, hopefully the
ways of the Dodgers of these last three games against
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Colorado continues with the Giants.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, and the Giants. Giants had something to play for too, Yeah,
they do, so this would be a good tune up
as we continue down the road. Ronnie, thank you, thank
you for today, Kevin, great work, and Rodney will wrap
up the week tomorrow, right ho
Dory continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on a five
seventy l A sports coming up in a bit. We'll
talk more about the happenings on Monday when we'd Bjay's
Restaurant in brew Housing Downy. But now let us bring
on the man in the big chair, our dear friend
Ned Coletti and Ned. Good afternoon to you.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey, gentlemen, how's things going. You're feeling better?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Fred, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm good. I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I haven't Wavered, Ned, I haven't waivered this year. There
have been some anxious moments, but I haven't waivered.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh, you're just you're just trying to get meet away. Okay, okay,
he's been all over there.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Actually. But one week it's the bullpen. Next week it's
the hitting, next week it's the whatever. I think he's
gonna blame my son Argie. At one point I heard
he gives the best.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That yes he does.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Jerry Harrison gave him a shout the other night.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That was great.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Don't hurt yourself getting on and off the bandwagon. It
was moving too quick.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, I mean I look at it like this hopefully. Well,
first of all, Ned, you know, so they beat Colorado.
They beat him pretty good, and you're going, oh, god,
so what they're Colorado, But like three weeks ago, they
couldn't beat a bad team. So I take that as
a positive step. Ned Now, let's see if the momentum
continues against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yep, Well, I think that they're in a really good spot.
You know, I just like, I like the team. I
liked the depth, and yeah, we haven't seen what we've
you know, we thought we'd be in one hundred wins
by now and you know, you're at eighty two. But
I still like what they've got coming back, and Sasaki
sounds like he's gonna, you know, have a chance to
help this club. The starting pitching has been great. You know,
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bullpen's got a little bit wearing there, but you might
have some reinforcements with that. So I think they're in
a good spot. I think everybody in the league is
probably looking at them thinking, you know that they've they've
slept long enough, and I think that that that's where
it's going.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, you mentioned, you know, they're going to have an abundance,
you know, of of pitching, and the starting pitching has
been the strength over especially over the last couple of months,
and Blake Snell looked fantastic last night, ned, how do
you use Speaking of that, how do you use Imachian
because he's looked pretty good as well in his last
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few outings. How do you use him in the in
the postseason? Is he a long, long guy? Is he
a guy if a starter gets in trouble? Is he
a back end guy? How do you use him? Because
he has been pretty good?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, you got to get out obviously, you know. The
postseason is all about figuring out how you're going to
get it out here and out there, how you're going
to stop rallies. Those are the keys to it, and
a lot of times your middle relief gets gets put
on the back burner. Okay, who's your closer? Who you
got setting up, who's your starting rotation? The middle relief
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is where many series is are one and loss. So
if you're an extra starter, so to speak, and right now,
you know they've got great health with their starting pitching,
and they pitched terrifically. One of those, maybe two of
those are gonna end up pitching in the middle of
the game. But you got quality, You got to warm
up a little different. You got to prepare a little
bit different. But once you once you get that figured out,
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you know it's it's a breeze. Because most of these guys,
even though it's not an eight to nine inning pitching
performance anymore, in this this day and age, you know
you can sell go five. Well you may have to
go too, but you can go too with some with
some everything you've got type of thing. I think they're
at a terrific spot. And I know they've you know,
they've played against some terrible teams and they haven't played well.
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We've all watched it. But this team is built for October.
And I think that the pitching, you've got to have
stud pitching, and that's what they've got. One other team
in the National League has the starting pitching that they've
got on a day by day by day basis. Other
teams may have one guy, they don't have as many
as the Dodgers do. And that's just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Ned you're sitting in a big chair, and we talked
about this earlier in the show, but you're sitting in
a big chair and you're building a roster, and we
know good pitching is the key in the playoffs. Would
you build if you could have or had the resources
a staff like this. In other words, if you have
this and your guys hit and something cataclysmic doesn't occur,
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you're gonna win. Is this the way you build championship teams?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think you've probably just just quoted a conversation from
Dodgers State and from this past winter. I think that's
the thought process. That's how you build it, and you
build it for really this time of year. These teams
have never been built for a long long time. Have
never been.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Built for the regular season.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, use a regular season, and you got to play
the games, you got to get to the postseason, qualify
all that stuff. But they've never been built, in my opinion,
for April, May, June, July, August, and most of September.
They're built for what comes after that in the September,
if you need it in the month of October, that's
how they're built. And whether Sasaki pitched hardly at all,
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it didn't pitch well. If he's what they think he
is in the month of October, boom all you wanted.
Blake Snell, how much time has he missed ready for October?
Stays healthy? Exactly what she's signed. So that's where this
team is built. And so I think what you just said,
I think that's exactly what they were saying back in
the fall of the year and the winter of the years.
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They decided to go after who they want after.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Uh hey, ned give. Given the fact that the bullpen
has struggled throughout most of this season, I think Bessie
has been a big part of keeping it in order.
And you know, certainly Banda had his moments early on,
but obviously Tanner Scott and Kirby Yates have struggled most
of the season. That being said, going into October, and
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when you get into the playoffs, you have a t
in the sea to let the starters go a little
bit longer.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Because of that, well, I think to one of the
earlier points, you know, are you going to need a
five man rotation for a series? No, you're not. So
you've already taken at least one starting pitcher of quality
and put them in the bullpen. This team's got six
quality starters, so you're really putting two of those guys
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in the bullpen. Plus you got you got to show
Hey to, you know, to use probably judiciously, but in
almost any situation you want. You know, he's not going
to be afraid of the moment. You know, he's not
going to be afraid of even closing out a game
in October if that's what they need him to do. So,
I think as you as you look at the team
built for the regular season, you know, you expect a
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lot out of Tanner Scott, you expect a lot out
of out of you know, their their bullpen, and they've
they've given them a lot of innings, no question. But
when you get to the postseason, you're going to look
at it in a different way. Who are the all
of these people that can that have been starting, that
can come in relief, stop an inning and and get
and get ready in a heartbeat to do something. And
(07:10):
I think that as you, as you look at the
depth of the pitching staff, both the starters and the relievers,
and those who have not performed for the entire season,
let's say, because of injury, because of lack of performance,
but are starting to show it today. You nothing better
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than that. As you put a team together, you much
have to have it rather have it that way than
the way most teams are gonna have it, where you
know they're they're gonna start to get exhausted because they
put the big, the big race on for six months,
and so I think it's a different thing. I think
you're gonna find starting pitching that's gonna pitch out a
bullpen and everybody moves back. It's just a down o effect.
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It's like adding of a middle of the order bat.
Everybody's gonna move up a little bit and everybody's gonna
move down a little bit to put a bat in
the middle of the order. Same thing with your pitching.
Some of those starters are going to be in the pen,
and some of the guys in the pen are going
to be sitting upstairs watching it on ED.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
We talked to her about this as well. How about Kim,
how about giving him some ad bats now here in
the stretch run let him play. I mean he is
Rodney called him an X factor. I said he was
a difference maker. I mean he's the kind of guy
I think that can really help you. Why not give
him some advats.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I think they will. I think they'll you'll continue to
see him get a little bit more activity. And I
think he is the X factor, especially because of the speed.
When you think about playing playoff baseball and tight games.
Being able to steal a base, being able to go
first to third. That's his game, going first to home.
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Maybe if an outfield he gets a late jump out
the ball. All those things, they're key components to it.
You've got to have that ingredient to your team. You know,
this team doesn't really run a whole lot. You know,
Hey runs far less than a year ago, still runs
pretty good, and uh, you know, and and Kim runs well, okay,
Mookie hasn't really run that much this year. But when
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you get to the postseason, you've got to be able
to manufacture or run. You're going to find yourself in
a three three game or a three to two game
and figure out, how are we going to generate something here?
How are we going to generate something that doesn't have
a home run attached to it? And you know, most
teams right now score off the home run before they
score off anything. You rarely see rallies anymore, but he
is somebody that can that can prolong a rally, and
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also he puts pressure on defense. There's no doubt a
player with his ability and his his speed and the
way he can run and figure out a situation. Just
like showhyy. They put pressure on defense, put pressure on
the pitcher out of the stretch. These are all kind
of tiny things, if you you know, if you if
you're not necessarily a student of the game, but they're
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to me they're huge because if you've got a relief
pitcher and you've got kim on first, you even show hey,
we've got somebody that can run that picture. Now out
of the stretch is thinking about two things at one time.
He's getting out of the stretch and making sure that
guy doesn't get an extra step, but also making a
pitch to one of the great guys in the lineup.
That stuff is game changing, and it just has it's
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game changing to take your starting pitching and put it
in the bullpen and say, hey, don't give us five
innings today, one to five, give us five and six,
give us the fifth inning and the sixth inning, or
give us four and five and then come in with
maybe another starter for five and six or six and seven.
Everything gets changed. And as long as you've got quality
to choose from which they do, and the quality is
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starting to rise to the top, you're gonna have many,
many choices and you'll play, be able to play matchup
baseball a pit and be able to really maybe have
different players and get ahead of the game here a touch,
But you got different series you're going to have to
play to get to the final, to get through the
World Series. You may have a couple different roster moves
depending on everybody being healthy and who you're plying and
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how they match up. But it's better to have that
than to be, you know, Phillies right now ahead of them.
We talked about that last week. But you know they're
missing Wheeler. He's done. Trey Turner, who's a great base runner.
We know him very well. He got a bad hamster
once he coming back, is he going to come back
and be like he was? Other teams have got those
issues that Dodgers have had April through through September. Dodgers
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are getting rid of those issues.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, yeah, And I kind of I listened to some
talking heads around the league from time to time that
and they, I think almost to all of them were
talking about the Dodgers now getting healthy, the starting pitching
being as good as it's been, but now the roster
is getting healthy with MUNTHSI back Edmund back, Kim back
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and how teams like the Padres and some other teams
have missed the boat and had opportunities to gain ground
on the Dodgers and they didn't do it when they
had the opportunity. If the Dodgers stay like they are,
it's something to me, like you've always talked about in
a four game series, and I'm not talking about the
three game because that's you know, obviously can go anyway.
But in a four game series, how do you withstand
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the onslaught of not only the Dodgers starting pitching as
we talked about, but the lineup as you as they
seem to get themselves going with Mookie being hot and
now taoscar getting back to form, you get Edmund back.
I mean, it is a gauntlet of a lineup. And
are they putting other teams on notice now? Like this
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is the dotar team we feared at the beginning of
the season.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I don't think there's any doubt. I think that's exactly
what it is. And I think as you start to
name names and you start to figure out, okay, what
are our choices, and you know there's there's three players
that get all the praise, so to speak, but you
know you can't sleep on Max. Max has been huge
for this team. Tiel, same thing, and on and on.
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And I think that as you as you draw out
that one, including Tommy Evans, as you draw out dead
lineup and you're you're doing some of the dance scouting,
you know you're gonna go into your meeting with your
pitching staff and you're gonna say, I'm not sure where
the weak link is right now. Were the weak links
earlier in the season, sure were, But right now, I mean,
you've got guys that are there that play for this
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time of year. It's like the late the late Pete
Rose used to say. He says, hey, I play for
the month of October. I love baseball, so I played
the other six months, but I'm playing for the month
of October. And that's the way this team is built.
And you're starting to see see it come to fruition.
I think they're in a great spot, not.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
If that picture's meeting is going on and they sit
there and say, I don't see the whole, I don't
see the weak spot, I don't see the easy out.
What does that do to a pitcher or a battery.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, they know they can't they have. They have really
no margin of error. And it also goes for their
defense too. You can't be given them extra outs. You've
got a double play, you can turn. You better turn it. Okay.
You can keep a runner nice feet less on a
certain situation, you better keep ninety feet less. It puts
pressure throughout the entire opposition because your defense can't give
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out extra outs and pictures. You know, well, I bet
we see it. We're gonna start to see the long
a bad. We're gonna start to see the patients at
the plate where they're gonna make that picture. Throw something
down the middle of the plate. They may work a
corner here and there, but if the umpire is not
giving them a little bit extra, they're gonna have to
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throw strikes. And as we've seen for a long time now,
that is when the Dodgers are at their best, they
will grind it out. They will make you make pitches.
They will get into your bullpen. If if you're afraid
to throw a strike, you you'll you'll be you'll be
called out, It'll be over they'll be they'll be all
over you. And so that's a huge piece to this too.
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It's a pitch by pitch, situation, every pitch I talk about,
you know, the kaleidoscope a lot. You know, only guys
our age know what a kaleidoscope is. But a pitch
the kaleidoscope, you know what I'm talking about. Right, every
pitch will change that, it will change the view and
they're gonna start to grind it out. You watch, They'll
start grinding on at bats. And I don't care if
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you're the Brewers or the Phillies or anybody in San Diego.
I don't think they can they can hold up to that.
They don't have the type of pitching that is a
Yama modal or a Snell. They don't have that. And
so those in Glasnow has been great. In Curson's been
terrific all year. You go on and on and show Hey,
let's say in Now Sasaki, come on, we were you
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gonna do your damage if through the opposing team every situation, Oh,
no doubt. The opposing team has to take advantage of
every situation in order to succeed, and they can make
zero mistakes because the chances that Dodgs will catch in
those mistakes. That's in New York Yankees in the in
(15:54):
the last game, of the World Series. Made the mistakes
in their fifth inning boom Done, couldn't make a playoff
third centerfielder, dropped the ball, pitch it and cover first base. Done?
And that's what they do.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Uh ned? You mentioned the six starting pitching, then two
of them have to go to the pen in a
in a three game series with which it looks like
the Dodgers aheaded and then a four game or a
seven game series.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
What's your rotation?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
And I know we'll talk about this a lot, but
what as it is today, what's your rotation?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well? I think you I think Kersh obviously earned a spot.
I think you know, Yamamoto and Snell those are three,
uh Glass now too? I mean the way he has pitched,
you know, it's I'm not sure what order you're going
to put him in because that would really dictate on
you know, how they're really feeling and who you're playing.
But you know it's I think it's those four. And
(16:51):
you know if you got if you only need three
because it's the best of three, Well, who can who
can warm up the quickest? Who can pitch out of
the pen? Not everybody can do it, Okay, there's only
a select few of starting pitchers that can get hot
quick come into a situation and maybe with runners on,
maybe they don't, you know, they they limit they limit
(17:11):
their pittures out of a stretch throughout the entire season
because of their ability to keep guys off base and
not walk a lot of people. You may come into
a situation with two guys on immediately, it's a different mindset.
So which one of those if it's four, which one
of those four can come into that situation because that's
what you're looking for. You know, you're not just looking
(17:32):
at start and then you can't predict a game like that,
but because you may need somebody to come in with
tu on and nobody else, who is the best that
can that can get up hot, that can that can
come in with a situation, adjust to it on the fly,
not work their way into it. There's a lot of
starting pitchers will work their way in to the game.
(17:52):
We've all here this all season long, right from any
any team good with a good picture. If you don't
get them early, you're not going to get them, right.
We hear that one hundred times a year. If you
don't get them early, you're not going to get them well.
You got to have that. The guy that's going to
the bullpen from your rotation has got to be the
pitcher that you don't say that about because you're not
going to get them early because if you get them
(18:13):
early and he's pitching out of the pen, you may
have gotten them. So it's going to be that type
of pitcher. Hope that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It makes sense. And using that, I don't know who
that guy is. I don't know if it's Glass now.
I think I think it could be Otani, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
With you, but I don't have any doubt.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yes, okay, but you know the deal. He goes into
pitch and then that's that. You know, Yeah, if he
stops pitching, you've lost the DH.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yes, well you're gonna have to pick that spot. But
you know, there's there may might be nobody who is
a clear cut choice. But as they as they go
through it, and they they know their picture, their players
pictures people better than anybody. They probably on an order
of preference as to who they think could be the
(19:04):
most successful. And they probably had conversations too between Mark
Pryor and Dave and the staff, what do you think
if this is a situation to get them mentally prepared
to think about it. Probably not today on September eleventh,
but you know the September twenty first or twenty fifth,
(19:24):
start to think about Okay, if you're out of the pen,
how do you feel about that? And you have you
done it before? Have you had success with it? Do
you think that you can get to get your mind
in the right place that if that's what we need
you to do, we're going to call on you. It's
like the six or seventh game of a playoff series
where they say, okay, all hands on deck. Another thing
(19:44):
we hear all the time, right, everybody's available. Okay. Well,
sometimes that's in the second game of a series or
the third game of a series. It's not always at
the very very end. Sometimes you got to win that game.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
All right. Well, that thanks for coming on, Thanks for
the info as always, and we will talk again soon.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
All right, gentlemen, always a pleasure, Stay happy, though, But
I like you in this mood.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I want to hang in there.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
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Speaker 3 (20:53):
Hey, welcome back. I'm gonna throwback Thursday, two hour sprint
for us to date Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan, many thanks
to our man, the man in the big chair, the Godfather,
Ned Coletty, always bringing the insight and the knowledge. Man
can listen to Ned all day long.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Rodney, exciting news, very exciting news. Thrilled to share it
with you. You know our remote show Monday in Downey
BJ's Restaurant and brew House. If you don't know about it,
we'll be down there noon to three. Kevin has some
things you'd like to discuss about the upcoming show on Monday,
and I don't want to. I don't want to stop him.
So Kevin, what can you tell us about what's happening
on Monday? B Jason Downey, That's a lot. I like it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Serve it up, got good stuff, Fred, Wait to tease
that up, baby, Kevin, you have.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Anything ask me the question again, Fred, I'm sorry, I
was editing something.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
What's the question? Apparently you and Kevin didn't have a
conversation about this. You know it's scary him out there.
You know it's scary. Apparently we did so, Kevin.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yes, I just set this up because I know you're
really excited about the show Monday at Bjason Downey.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Thrilled about it. We love Downey, we get a great
time out turnout, and Downy absolutely.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
There it is seeing. So we did discuss this, and
I was just saying, you know, some of the stuff
that we may have planned on Monday. I wanted to
turn it over to you because you wanted to talk
about it.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I did not want to talk about it necessarily, Fred,
because we're still working on it.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
But thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Fred.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I was right here, right across away from Kevin, and uh,
that never came up.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Never did I say, Ronnie.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
You said me if I was in studio, Yes, yes,
I'm here, and you want to talk when you come
back on the air.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
And then you said this is what I'm going to
talk about. At no time did you mention I want
you to say this. I didn't say what if I
put words in somebody's mouth just now.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I did not. I just said, I know Kevin's got
some stuff he wants to scare.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
You can't weasele your way out of this one, Fred,
I was right here.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
I was right.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
If you all right, Ronnie, what do you playing for
the show Monday?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
I don't know, Fred, it's your show?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You tell us. Well, I'm just saying. I mean, you
guys are contributors, Rodney, and I want you involved. So
if you have any idea to throw me in that
one too.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Fretz trying all avenues Rodney to save his bacon because
he's got nothing nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, Rodney, and I want want to know what Kevin
has the thing? No, they didn't have that coming.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
I don't know what to say, so let's ask Kevin.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I just wanted to say.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
You set him up. You say Kevin up. He wasn't
ready for that. He was doing something else and he
heard his name and said, did Fretz just say my name?
And I wasn't paying attention. I mean, I never pay attention.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
What do you say? Oh? Thank you? So Kevin? You
are going to be there Monday? Is that the Well?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yes, I will be there.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
That's all it matters, Bobby.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
I think it really matters if the two of you
are going to be there more than anything else. Really,
I don't think anybody's coming there to see me.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I think a lot of people show up for you.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I highly doubt it.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
A lot of people do. They only come up and
say hello to you.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I will say that people do come to see you
because you're the one that is answering the calls when
people call in and they want a bit about Fred
or or they just there calling trying to get their
opinion on when we take calls. So yeah, they have
conversations with you, Kevin. So actually they do like to.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
People call off air Rod need to complain about Fred.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I bet I bet they call off air to complain
about me.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Oh did I use my inside voice?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh Jesus. All right, anyway, Kevin, I just play's working.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I'm working on a few things Fred. But I don't
want to say anything out loud because I don't want
to jinx it.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, fine, But I would like to make a suggestion
because I thought it played very well last time. Okay,
I think we should play one live game because I
thought that played very well. Okay, that's fine. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
We love involving the audience and getting them on the
air with us when we're ad at remote.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
That's fine. Linnelle played, Yeah, you have to get warmed
up a little bit. He plays a bit, a little bit,
a little bit. Well, I think the concern he had
was he didn't realize you have to say something to win.
I think that was the issue.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Well, also, you don't get penalized for the wrong answer.
I think he didn't understand that part of it.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Oh okay, all right, Yeah, you will not get penalized
for the wrong answer. If it's really stupid, we'll let
you have it. But you won't get penalized if your
answer is so bad that it brings us to the
brink of tears laughing, We'll just give you the prize anyway.
How does that sound? Two ways you can win. You
can win, or you can be so bad that we
(25:37):
can't believe it and we'll give you the prize.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
We gotta play Know your Squad again at Downey BJS.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Lef's up to Kevin. I'll see, well, no, he'll determine
the game.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
It'll be one of our throwback games from the past.
I'll say that and maybe know your squad, who knows
could be real? If gays, he will see all.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Right Monday in downy noon detree BJ's Restaurant in brew House,
home of the world famous Puzuki dessert. We will see
you there, all right. So the plot thickens when it
comes to the Clippers, Kawhi Leonard and the NBA collective
bargaining agreement. In the salary cap, Steve Balmer said, point blank, hey,
I don't know anything. We stick by the rules. We
(26:19):
don't do anything. I don't know if he said we
welcome an investigation, but he's got an investigation. And here's
what it turned up. Now you tell me. So this company,
Aspiration filed for bankruptcy. They were like three hundred million
bucks in a hole or something. They were in big trouble.
They're out. And Steve Balmer said, because they had entered
(26:41):
into an agreement with the Clippers, as a matter of fact,
they were gonna be the uniform logo. They swindled them.
Steve Balmer used the word swindled. Okay, So anyway, all
hell's breaking loose. Everybody that's made an investment has made
an investment. They're losing it. But according to reporting by
(27:05):
Pablo Torre. Clipper's minority owner Dennis Wong made an almost
two million dollar investment in Aspiration as everything was going south.
So the last thing you would do is invest any
money in this. But he made a two million dollar
investment in Aspiration, and they turned around and paid Kawhi
(27:29):
Leonard a million, seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars as
required through his endorsement contract with the company. So there
you go. Now, let's think about that the company is failing, Rodney,
You and I are investors in a company it is failing.
They are in big trouble, and we even get win
(27:53):
that they may file bankruptcy. We've got money in and
we're not getting any money back, and we put real
money in. Let's say we each put in five million
dollars the company is failing. Would either one of us,
as the company is failing and we know we're not
going to get our money back, would either one of
(28:15):
us go, yeah, we'll invest another two million right now, Well,
we know we're not going to get our initial investment back.
Would we do that?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Was that the case? That's the case that he knew
that the company was it was failing, It was failing
at this, but they didn't ask for two million dollars
to get us back on you know, back on float
and get ready, you know, to to rekindle what we started,
or to help jumpstart us to make this work. Or
(28:43):
was it it was failing, there's no turning back, there's
no way to recover. And he still put two million
dollars in it. That makes a difference. You know, There's
been a lot of times where companies are failing. They're
flailing and they're in the hole, and somebody comes in
and rescue them and gives them money. Yet they take
you know, eighty percent of the company once they do that.
(29:06):
It happens all the time. But I don't know if
in this situation, the company was failing to the point
where there was at the point of no return and
he made two million dollar investment.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
It was so bad they couldn't make payroll. They were failing.
They couldn't make payroll. It was more than give me
two million and we'll save this thing or figure it out.
They couldn't make payroll.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
And they took the two million and paid Kawhi one
point seventy five.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Correct as was required in his endorsement deal. Now, if
the company's failing, you and I are endorsers for them.
If the company is failing, they're going to file bankruptcy.
Then everybody, the creditors go in and say, all right,
you know you ought me to show me that. Yeah,
and you get pennies on the dollar and it's done. Yeah, Okay.
He didn't get pennies on the dollar. He got what
(29:54):
he was supposed to get, the twenty eight million. Well
that payment of one point seven five which was due
to him at that time, But he didn't get the
twenty eight million. I don't believe he got all twenty
eight I don't know that and I have not seen that.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
So one point seventy five versus twenty eight million his
pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
For him, Well, that was part he was supposed to
get his installments at one point seventy five, So that
was an installment.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
We know he got paid more of that. Did we
know he got any more than one point seventy five.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
At that particular time?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
No, or any time do we know yet?
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Well, he was getting paid up until that point, and
then the payment didn't come through, which reportedly Uncle Dennis
got upset about that started this entire process, and he
eventually got this payment, this installment of one point seventy
five which he happened.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I'm preaying it makes a difference how much of the
twenty eight million, because this was back in twenty twenty two, right, so.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That's when it started.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It was a four year deal or twenty eight million
dollars if I remember right. How much of that twenty
eight million dollars did he actually get paid? Then I
don't have right, right, he was supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Paid seven million annually in quarterly installments of one point
seventy five million. He received his first payment July sixth,
twenty twenty two, that we do know, December of twenty
twenty know that. How come we don't know when he
got another one? Well, that's that's fair. It's not been
(31:24):
reported this thing went south fast, though, this company went
south fast.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I think the assumption is he was getting his payments
up to a point, and when he stopped getting them,
that's when he started making noise about it. And that's
around the time that the team or the company was
going through bankruptcy and they purportedly allegedly scrambled to try
to find a way to make sure they made him
whole on his.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Deal, whole on the installment, hole on hole.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
At the very least on that on that particular part
of the installment.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yes, okay, it's interesting. I'll tell you it's interesting now
to be fair, To be fair, maybe Uncle Dennis made
so much noise they just wanted to pay him off.
And for whatever reason, Dennis Wong, knowing who's a shrewd guy,
(32:17):
Steve Ballmer's college roommate, a shrewd guy and has money,
thought I'll throw two million in here. He's a one
percent owner of the Clippers, I'll throw two percent. I'll
throw two million in here and maybe save the company.
Now that doesn't make sense. He put the money in
so Kawhi could get his That doesn't mean the Clippers
circumvented the salary cap, but that from reading all of this, Kevin,
(32:42):
would you agree he put the money in?
Speaker 5 (32:46):
It seems fishy. But again, this goes off with what
Adam Silversea yesterday like, is it we have to have
heartline evidence, not just particularly a smoking gun situation that's
out of his own mouth.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
A quarter of the facts we're going off this one
revelation can we wait till we get all the facts in. Well,
we can keep talking about it as the facts come
in just two hours for us today, so we'll be
(33:21):
back to wrapping up.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
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(33:43):
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Speaker 3 (33:48):
Hey, Yes, back to wrap it up, Rodney, Pete, Fred
Rogan on a beautiful Thursday, two hour show today. So
we got to keep it moving, Fred, Yeah, we really do,
because we have two minutes left, so we got we
gotta cram everything here in the next two minutes.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Rodney. Yeah, we're done. Yes, we're off the air before
we go there. Anything you want to say, No, all right,
nothing to say here, Fred, nothing to say. It's just
I think everybody needs to take a deep breath in
this country.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
That's all boy.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That's fair. I'll tell you that. Really off day for
the Dodgers. So they're headed to San Francisco. They've got
the Giants coming up, and now the dreaded rivalry is renewed.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yes it is, Yes it is. But the focused on
San Diego the last few years. But the Giants may
be coming. This is gonna be intense. This may be
like a little bit about the old days, Fred with
the Giants and the Dodgers. So you know, hopefully the
ways of the Dodgers of these last three games against
(35:00):
Colorado continues with the Giants.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, and the Giants. Giants had something to play for too, Yeah,
they do, so this would be a good tune up
as we continue down the road. Ronnie, thank you, thank
you for today, Kevin, great work, and Rodney will wrap
up the week tomorrow, right ho
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