September 16, 2025 • 33 mins
We dive back into Dodgers-Phillies with game 2 of their series taking place tonight with Ohtani on the mound. Did Shedeur Sanders tell the Ravens not to draft him? Caleb Williams' growing pains continue but he's far from a finished product.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we continue on Fred Rugan Rodney ed Eric
Dickerson in five to seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good to have Eric in the house. Fred talk Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Here, we've been talking football for an hour. Let's get
back to the Dodgers for a second. Then we'll carry on.
And last night I thought was really frustrating. I thought
Amageen looked great. Unfortunately the bullpen could not hold them. Rodney,
you mentioned earlier, and I agree, that's what playoff.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Baseball is going to look like.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hopefully it comes out the other way in the playoffs
for the Dodgers. You know, Vessia got tagged last night,
Jack Dryer got tagged last night, and they just ran
out of gas. I mean that's basically what it was.
The pitching, the bullpen gave it up and they lost
the game. But really an exciting game. And I know
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Dodger fans are frustrated, and the reality is it makes
it that much more difficult. I didn't think they'd catch
the Phillies anyway. So but if it finishes with them
and first place the Dodgers in the division, they hold
off the Padres and then they win their first one
wild card. Right now, would be against the Mats, they
would play the Phillies again, and I like their chances
against the Phillies Rotney.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I just thought last night was one of those games.
What do you think? Yeah, I mean, look, the Phillies
have been good pretty much all season long, and they
just won the nl East. They are more than likely
going to be the second seed, so they'll have, you know,
home field until the NLCS, and that is if Milwaukee
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gets knocked out, then they then they will have it.
But they've been consistent pretty much all season long. So yeah,
it's it is going to be a battle. It's going
to be a battle I think all through the playoffs
no matter who makes it. You know, you've got the Phillies,
You've got Milwaukee, who's been since what May when Milwaukee
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was on a skid and nobody thought Milwaukee would be
where they are now. But Milwaukee since May has been
the best team in baseball and they've been consistent all
year long. A lot of people contend, I think you
said it, Fred, that they you know, because of their inexperience,
once they get to the playoffs is going to be
different than the regular season, which we'll see. But you
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put Milwaukee you've got the Phillies, You've got the Dodgers.
You know, the Padres. As you know, we'll see if
they end up making if they continue to slide or
whatever they happen, But it looks like the Padres are
gonna be in the playoffs too. And then you know,
between the Cubs who are are playing really well, there's
gonna there's some good teams in the National League and
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it will be in these playoffs, and it's gonna be very,
very intense, uh, these playoffs, because I think all of
the teams, just based on the way they're playing, are
evenly matched. Now, if the Dodgers play up to their potential,
nobody can nobody can play with them. And if they're
healthy and you know, hopefully they can get healthy and
Will Smith can get back and Munsey and everybody you
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know remains healthy, then then Dodgers at full strength are
better than anybody. But you still have to play well
at that moment. And right now, as we've seen all
season long, the Dodgers have not played the best baseball
this year. Now that can all change, and Ed knows this.
Once you get to the playoffs, people start smelling the playoffs.
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There are guys that just rise to the occasion and
teams that just rise to the casion. And there are
teams that you know, can't really handle the moment. And
so we will see. But I'm still putting, uh, I'm
still putting my money on the Dodgers, if you know,
as the playoffs start next month.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
It's funny you say that, right. This was a couple
of months ago. I was in Dallas and the Tampa
Bay Rays were playing the uh, the Rangers, and I
was at the drive range and balls and guy came
home to two guys came, said Eric Diggerson. I said, yeah,
so we start. Yeah, I'm here, I'm one of the
coaches for the Tampa Bay Rays. And we start talking
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about the Dodgers and baseball and and I asked him,
I said, I said, I said, so, let me ask
you this. Dodgers were playing pretty good. I said, I said,
what makes the Dodgers so good? He says, he said,
first of all, two things make the Dodger. He said,
they got a really good organization. He said, if they
got so much talent, He said, let me tell you something.
He said, I'll say this to you. He said, if
the Dodgers stayed healthy, he said, no one could play
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with them. I mean, that's from a guy. He said,
that's how good the Dodgers are. He said, if they
can stay he said, but he said, you know it's
for the football and in any sport, if you don't
have your starters, I say, right, you know, you you
could lose. He said, but a healthy Dodgers baseball team,
and you say, you take any team in baseball. He said,
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they can't beat the Dodgers. And I was like, I
was like, wow, I really say the Dodgers are that stacked.
And I was, I mean, I was impressed. I'm like, okay,
because you know, I'm I became a Dodger fan because
of Time Ofless Order, and so to hear that from
someone who you know, had nothing game, he just we
just I just asked him a baseball question. He said, yeah,
he said, the Dodger a healthy said no one could
beat them. But like you said, Rodney, they've had they've
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got injuries, and Maxi Monty's out of and you know,
and and then the bullpen has not been great, so
you know, and but in baseball it's like anything football,
and the playoffs meant anything can happen.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Anything can happen.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, they seem to be getting healthy eric at the
right time. The pitching staff is now healthy. Uh And
and they hit the ball last night, so it wasn't
as if they didn't hit last night. So that was
good news. Just a bullpen kind of let it get away.
And you hope that doesn't happen, you know, consistently.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, But but the keyword is they lost, you know that,
And that's it true. You know, hitting, pitching, and it's
all great. I mean, but if if you could have
a no hit, if you lose one to nothing, you
still lost.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I mean, don't make a difference. A great game.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But we loved we lost last night. Yeah, extra any
nobody cares. You still lost the game. He's still still
game that he could have you could have won. And
and you know, and most years, even early in the
season when they started off, those were the games. Last
night were the games that Dodgers would win, right, no
matter how it turned out it got close in the
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in the late innings or he went into extra innings,
Dodgers found a way to win. And I thought that
was gonna happen last night too. When you know, you
get the extra innings. You kind of almost resigned to
the fact that, you know, the the visiting team is
going to get one run when you start somebody at
second base, They're going to find a way to get
that run in. So you're gonna you're gonna concede the
one run. But for the Dodgers not to even match
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that and not win that game, you know, that's something
that's a game that they win, you know when they
start the season, or that's a game that they win
when they're going good. Let's go back to football.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So Tom Brady was shown last night in the Raiders
booth during the game. He had a head set up
and people wondered, did that bylight NFL rules? He works
for Fox, he's a part owner of the Raiders. Now
he's in the coaching booth with a headset on. Truth
of the matter is it violates nothing. A co owner
or team personnel like that limited partner can be in
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the coaching booth with a headset on. Per league rules,
they can't call plays. I mean, you know they're not
making decisions.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Why not Al Davis did well that was in the house. Yeah,
why can't they call plays? You know all these owners
that come down to the sidelines. You know, you can't
do that. That would be you know, that's the same
equivalent if he's in the box as opposed to as
Arthur Blank or Jerry Jones or whomever coming down to
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the sidelines in the fourth quarter. What's the difference.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I guess optically, and because it's Brady and because of
his affiliation with Fox, all eyes around them at all times.
But they did say calling the game right, Yeah, but
because he is a representative of Fox, he would have
in the minds of owners, uh, information about other teams
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and certainly about the Raiders. So other teams are very
careful to talk around him because he doesn't want They
don't want to go back and tell the Raiders. I mean,
it's that's really how they're thinking he didn't do anything wrong.
I think the whole thing is absurd. Personally, I think
I think it is completely absurd.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's like anything you think, you think, you think Eric Dickerson,
he's you know, on the sideline in San Francisco because
he's hanging out uh and doing a story on Ronnie
Lot that they gonna you know, oh, we're gonna open
up to Eric dision because they're gonna be careful around
Eric Dickerson because they think he may come back and
tell the Rams something that's no different than anybody.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You did, you did Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Right, that was terrible at it?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But yeah, okay, and uh, would you after sitting in
the team meetings and stuff what you got to do?
Would you immediately call the Rams and tell them what
another team was doing?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Absolutely not, No, don't do that. No, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And even if he did, the teams are not gonna
give up all.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
The secrets and they ain't gonna say everything in front
of me anyway. So now anybody, yeah, you do that? No,
you know, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
You think I'm gonna say, Okay, on third down into
this is what we're gonna run.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
This, this is the play wenn a toss running back past.
That's what we're gonna do. No, that's what's coming.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
We want to go.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
That's that's what gonna run. That ain't I'm gonna tell you.
The funny thing that this thing that makes no sense
to me is that, Okay, say you play for I
play for the Rams, and I'm in the NFL. I
can't bet on other teams. Another team. My buddy plays
for a team. Oh, I can't. I can't bet on baseball.
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I can't bet that. That makes no sense. You can't
bet on other sports. I can't bet on an NBA game?
How is that gonna affect the NFL? But but the
owners can bet. I bet they betting. They owned a
lot of some of these betting sites.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Owners a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
No bet Oh come you think you don't think they
bet fred? Come on now under the table. But I
don't think outwardly they can. They might not bet out,
but you know they'd be betting. But give on.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But I just understand, how can How can I? I
played for the Rams? How can I change if the
Dodgers playing in the Phillies and I bet on that,
what is that gonna change?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Maybe the theory. Well first, maybe the theory is because
you are an athlete, you know somebody on either team
and could get information.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
But that makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
So I think you're referencing something that happens to I
think a few Colts players a couple of years ago,
so they were on team, in the team facility betting
on other games. I think NBA games, and that's something that's.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Different sport though they weren't betting on others. Correct the basketball?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Basketball, you can bet you can bet on other sports
that they don't want you gambling on anything on n
f A facilities. I think that's where the technicality came up.
But the players are allowed to bet on other sports,
they just can't bet on anything the NFL.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, because they got the big signs when you go
into the facility, no gambling, no gambling, no gambling, all
that kind of stuff all over the place.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
But what's the difference in betting that at home?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But you can't bet on at the facility? Ed, I
think that was the biggest issue, that they were betting
at the facility.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So what's so what's going what's the difference if I'm
sitting in my car betting in the facility or if
I'm at home? And what's the different?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
There is.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Just that a bunch of hypocrits, you know, the hippocrits.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
And yes, and by the way, I did look up.
So the owners are bound to the same rules as
the players. Legally, they're under NFL rules. They are not
supposed to bet on football.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
The right matter of fact, speaking of change the subject
totally in my hotel room. You know, first of all,
I'm an I'm a nee freak, I'm a need free.
But my hotel room right now, I got stuff. I
feel like a whore. Have you ever seen a hoarder?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
They had the whole shows on the hoarders on Man.
I just I swear if somebody came in out, be embarrassed.
I just cannot keep a whtel room clean. But you
just dump everything out of your bag. I'm just just
a mess man. I'm like, it's just messy. I'm like,
this is disgusting. I could not be a hoarder. I mean,
it's just.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
What did you jump out? Eric?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
But what I'm saying, ad you a neat freak? What
are you talking about? But but but right at hotels.
For some reason, in a hotel room, I cannot keep
it together.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, I got I got a fruit basket. I've
got fruit around here everywhere. I mean, I've got the
trash can running over and I ain't been there by
the day. I mean, i mean, I'm like, this is
I said, this is this is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I'm like, well, how much stuff did you have to
bring for one day?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Man? Fred, I'm gonna tell you first, I've been gone
for four days and you would swap me gone for
a month. I mean, I mean, I'm like, why did
I bring so much? I got two suitcases like a woman.
I don't know, nothing is women, But I mean, I'm like,
you know, women care got? I got got my man Come,
I got my shoes, I have my hair rider.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I'm like, what I got? What did I hell?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I got two suitcases for and a golf bag and
they got another bag from the golf court.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I'm like, How'm gonna get all this stuff home? Well?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
How are you going to get at home?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I don't know, Fred, I'm going to leave something. I'm
gonna leave somebody at bag.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's it bag.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Nice's that's a nice bag. Yeah, it's it's a nice bag.
It's a nice bag. You forgot.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Jeffrey does a nice job up here this Turnum he's
been doing it for fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, so a long time.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But yeah, I'm just I'm really I'm really embarrassed with
what my hotel room looks right now.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Just it's messy.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'm sure you're not gonna know about any guests over.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Oh, absolutely not. I wouldn't have nobody coming this room.
It's too it's too it's too messy.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Is it a sweet?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
It's a sweet, Yes, it's as sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Man, I don't like small hotel rooms. I got, I got.
I got a phobia by a small hotel room. Even
when I fly, you know, when you fly, like when
you fly, I got to check the kind of plane
I get on. I like, you know, if it's a
seven sixty seven, I like to seven seven seven to
lay down beds. Yeah, I'm one thing. I'm a snob.
And on flying I'm a snob. And hotel I'm a
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snob traveler to I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Snob is like that.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And they try to sneak them planes by you too.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Oh yeah, we got you in first and that first
class is like a like a you know, coach long
years ago. It's just bad. I can't even lean back
and there's no room and all that. It's just bad.
They're like they get over.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Man, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Did you see a story about people that buy window
seats but there's no window in that seat? United Airlines
to suit that people. My window seat, but the seat
there was no window but.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
No, check this. They're on the edge and there's no window.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Right there on the end, there's no window. But you
bought a window seat, so there's just there's just no
window there at right. There's no window there, not like
they put you in the aisle when you bought window seat.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's just no window. Right.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Wow, Okay, let me let me let me ask you
this for and you you right, you're on the plane.
Let's say let's say you got the I seat and
that somebody sitting next to you, and you know you
want to try to go to sleep or something like that.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You're trying to watch a movie on your hot path and.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
They got the window up and they're looking out the
window like they're looking for something.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I was saying, Wow, what the hell are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
We tharted while you in the air. While you're in
the air.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
To us, it's frustrated.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Look everybody I saw, I seen them sit next to
everybody got there.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Let the damn shader.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Everybody else shading down and your shader. I'll be looking
at him like, oh my gosh, what do you do?
I just I just want to say, what are you
looking for? Alien? Or something coming? I don't say nothing. Boy,
I'm so and from I won't sell you my body
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my body language, like I mean, I mean, they be
looking all down like trying to see the ground, looking
all up like, and.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I'm like, what the hell are you looking for? Me?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Really?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
It's frustrating, you.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Know, Eric, you said something earlier made me think. So,
you know you have a phoby about hotel rooms, but
you live in a hunted house. Now how does that work?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Well, I mean, I live in that house.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I've been at the house for forty years now more so
I know that I know the ghost in that house.
I know that house. I mean, I mean, now, if
you saw my hotel, you think this hotel.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Is hunted too. It's kind of old. I see a picture.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's got a picture of a heismand trophy across the
way with a canary over it. And I'm like, what's
that all about? Canary over the housingand trophy. It's a
picture of a hiland trophy and it's a canary with
a bale over its head. And then I got a
picture of a wall with like a bunch of fake
books and not books that drawing the books with a
red sofa. I'm like, I mean, it's kind of weird looking,
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but I mean I would think this coattail is kind
of honey too.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I wouldn't be surprised if Dracula come walking out of
one of these clouds. I wouldn't be shot.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
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you guys see.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The story Adam Schefter reporting Baltimore was gonna pick Shadoor Sanders,
but he told him not to drop him because he
didn't want to be Lamar's backup. He wanted to go
somewhere where he could compete to start. All right, you
hear that story and do you think that was wise?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Eric?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Do you think that was Wyse Rodney. Do you need
do you know it's true? It's reported by Adam Schefter,
So we're going to say it's true.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
You sure Adam is Jesus now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Are you sure it's true if it's so much reported
on this kid? Unfortunately that you know what I mean
that I don't I don't necessarily buy everything that's that's
reported out there. Well, let's assume it's true.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Was it the right tim? So we're assuming. Now when
you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Look, at the end of the day, you know, guys
feel a certain way, right you know, who knows if
that's what he actually said. And you know when they're
Baltimore saying, hey we want to draft you. We want
to draft you in the second round, or we want
to draft you late in the first round. No, don't
draft me because I don't want to be Levar's But
that doesn't sound right, doesn't doesn't sound right?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Don't you know what I mean? Make sense?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
We're gonna do teams gonn do what they want to
do anyway. Hey, yeah, we don't care what you want.
You don't care what you want.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, for the most part, Yeah, you're not coming into
We're not coming in to make you the starter right away,
which is different. Oh, I'm gonna hold out. I'm not
gonna play for you. That's that's that's a different whole,
different different story.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Let me ask you, friend, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, Oh, I think that's that. I think that's eminently
possible that that happened. And my question is, because you
guys played, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
What does that mean? I think it's possible it happened. Yes,
I think it happened.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I think I think that'd have been really big, big news,
though fare I don't think that would come out this late.
I think that had been like it's like an l
Waited told the coast, don't draft me, I'm not coming in,
and like Eli.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Manning told what told San Diego.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That was that was public. Everybody under that, I mean Archie,
Archie was saying it and always Dad was saying it.
And if you you think that that that if he
said that, you, like Eric's point is just coming out now.
You don't think that would have came out in April
when the draft was happening.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That had been that had been another knock on it. See,
you know, he said he tell us not to draft
the front.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Page news every day all day. If that was the
case that he said, don't draft me because I don't
want to be Lamar's backup. The fact that it's coming
out in September, you know, and all the news, Oh
he got demoted to not even running scout team now
and everybody making a big deal about that and all
the team Well, well, and no, because now somebody else
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is running scout team, They're like, make its headline news
because he's not even he's not even the scout team
quarterback anymore. You know that that becomes front page news.
So no, come on, does that make sense to you, Fred,
that if he if he did that, if he actually
said that, the first time we're hearing about this is
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September sixteenth, week three.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Of the NFL season, Yeah, that don't hit up? Does
that make sense to you, Fred? Well, I think perhaps
Adam Schefter now.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Using perhaps and possibility and imminent and and you're skirting
around every single it'say yes or no question.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well yeah I think you could. I actually think yes,
that did happen. They played Cleveland, Cleveland played Baltimore. There's
a connection there, and I just look at it more
from the perspective when a guy comes out and you know,
if you're gonna be able to actually think that that's
This is the first time everybody's hearing about this that
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he didn't want to play all the hype around your
door that he received pre pre draft, his senior year,
pre draft combine leading up to the draft, dropping to
the fifth round, sixth or whatever it was, and this
is the first time we are hearing that he didn't
want to go.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
To Baltimore because he's gonna be the backup. I don't
believe that for I don't care what Adam Schiff said.
I know they say I'm shift, ain't Jesus, I don't
believe it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, I don't think he denied it when he was
asked about it, and I think he just said I
don't want to talk about.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
The past, and that's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Often do you think he's question about every putting on
his shoes putting on the left shoe first instead of
the right foot. I mean, at some point you you
don't want to answer nonsense and first and second of
second of all, he's not the starter in Cleveland, so
why why are you coming to me asking me all
kinds of questions. I'm just trying to get through the
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season as a rookie here, and now you're you're bringing
up stuff that supposedly happened in April.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Because that's gonna make headlines. That's gonna that makes big headlines.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
If they if they would find out for sure that
this happened, that would be like, oh wow, man, that's headline. Yeah,
he could have been a Baltimore Raven. He could have
learned behind Lamar Jackson and think about it. Okay, even
Lamar Jackson. I even asked, he Knews knew some about
Lamarrony drafted because you know, it was so much specking it.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
He can't do this, he can't do that, he can't throw,
and remember this, he can't.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Flacco was the quarterback. Flaco was the starting quarterback and
they had just won the Super Bowl. You the front
prior to that or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
So I asked, let me ask you a question, man,
can the kid really play? Y'all just drafting him, you know,
because he's a good athlete. He sent ericaim seven, tell
you this kid can play. He said, he can make
a DC, he can help us win Super Bowls. I'm like, really,
and that's what he told me he was. That's when
he was a general manager of the of the Baltimore Ravens.
I said, okay, and I took his word for it,
and I would say, you know, he he didn't want
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a Super Bowl, but he has been a superstar on
that football team.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
He's made a big two MVPs. I mean, I mean,
so so he was right. I don't buy it. I
don't buy that. This is this is what happened. Is
somebody of somebody else, and somebody else told somebody that
he may have said that he didn't want to be
a backup, And it could be as very well as innocent,
as like, man, you know, I sure like to go
to a place where I could compete the start and
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and that be it. And then it turns into he
didn't want to go to Baltimore because he didn't want
to play behind Lamar Jackson. Like if you ask somebody
a general question and say, well, which which team would
you like to go to? And his answer could be
I like to go to a place where I can
compete for the starting job, and someone says, well, you know,
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Baltimore was thinking about picking you that starts to get out,
he won't have to say another word, but they could
take and splice it that he wants to go to
a place where he can compete for a starting job.
Baltimore was thinking about taking him. But because he said
he'd like to go to a place he'd like to
compete for a starting job, that means he doesn't want
to go to Baltimore. That's how the spin works audio.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Oh, he says, just say, you know what, going to Baltimore,
Potter and get a chance to play much because of
Lamar Jackson being there. Oh, he said, you don't want
to go to Baltimore, you know, I mean, I mean
they say so much when when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
The as that and you actually believe Fred, you actually
as a journalist with all the hype on your doing,
why if you're coming journalists But okay, you've been in
sports forever, Fred, all the hype around him, I asked
you to Kevin, all the hype around him leading up
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to the draft that this is the first time that
you hear.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Shador did not want to go to Baltimore because he
didn't want to be a backup to Lamar. Adam Schefter
reported that I believe it.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
I find the timing to be odd. But the fact
that he the fact that he didn't deny it, I'll
find that to be interesting too. I don't want to
talk about the past. Is like if it didn't happen,
to say it didn't happen, and this is not it's
a non story.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
But but even you know, even addressed the damned if.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
If he says I didn't do it, he didn't do it,
we move on.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
You're if you're reporting as erroneous, didn't happen?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Okay? Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Fred, Fred Rogan we we uh. There's rumors out there
that you, uh that youh sexually assaulted someone.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
What say you, Fred? That's absurd? Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
I said that's absurd.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Fred denies sexually assault, sexual assault. That's the headline.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, that would make that would make news too, that
that that one hundred percent, It would that make that
makes news.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Now Fred says he didn't. Fred said he didn't. Fred
said he didn't.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Fred denies sexual assault.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It's all over the times.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
That's looking back at Fred's history.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You're not going to find anything. Eric not even going
to be an issue. Let's look back for anyway, anyway, listen, listen,
and I know you, you know you got a love
affair with Adam Schefter and all that kind of stuff,
and everything comes out of his mouth is I don't
really know Adam Scheff, to be honest with you. Gospel.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
He lives out here, suppose, so I get I.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Get where you're coming from.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I get where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I just find it fishy that you know, this is
the first time that we're hearing that he didn't he did.
He said he didn't want to go to Baltimore, didn't
want to be drafted by Baltimore because he didn't want
to be a backup to Lamar Jackson. Did he say
that about other teams that were maybe interested in him too,
That's my question. Don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's not reported right, not reported right? All right, Well,
let's just talk about this real quick. Rodney Caleb Williams.
What do you think he is in his development? Oh,
he can't play, He's horrible. He's never going to be
a star in this league. He can never he can
never succeed in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, he's just.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
He's a bust already in a season in two games.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Hey, let me tell you what I think though, I
told Richard did this and he's here at this tournament.
When they had what's the quarterback that trade? They said,
to william went to Pittsburgh. But he's a justin field fields,
I said. He said, man, he hold the ball too long.
You know he's gonna readdefense. And I said, then, I said,
the kid ain't getting no blocking. I said, running for
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his life every time he no, man, I said Richard,
I said, I'm tennis. So he said, I'm telling we're
gonna get Caleb Wis. I said the same thing, having
to Caleb Williams. Why I said, he's gonna be running
for his life? Why I said, Richard ain't got no blocking.
He ain't got a body to throw too. No, I'm
telling him, I said, Okay, talking to him yesterday, what
do you say he running for his life? I said,
did I tell you that? I said, every quarterback come
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here running for his life.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, you don't know. And to you know, allow allow uh,
First of all, allow him to be with Ben Johnson
for a year before we just go, oh, he can't
do this, he can't do that. Allow him to play
half the season. First he got he said, what, Uh,
basically two coaches and one year, two systems in one
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year as a rookie, he had to play under two
head coaches, and now he's got a new head coach,
and so just I mean, really allow the kid to
get his feet wet with a new head coach who
just got there a by the way, a first time
head coach. So allow that to kind of develop a
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little bit. And to Eric's point, you sacked more than
anybody else in the league last year. Allowed them who
tried to address the offensive line in the off season,
allowed them to kind of jell a little bit before
you start to just call a guy or this and that.
That's what everybody did with Arch Manning down in Texas.
They already appointed him the number one pick in the
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draft before the season started.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Come home, man.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Now, the same people, the same people that were saying
that that he's the he's the best prospect since John Elway.
He's the number one pick in the draft. I mean,
all these people backpedaling and going back on what they
said and just played the clips because they all said it.
And now they're like, oh, well, we knew he wasn't
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quite as good as everybody said he was, and oh
he's struggling.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Oh he's he couldn't even he couldn't even be the
Ers out. He could even beat him out. So that
show you this was your fifth round pick? Can beat
him out?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
That should be a question to begin with, right, right?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Can be this? You can't beat him out?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
When I think of Caleb Williams, I wonder, okay, and
you guys have always said, you know, a lot of
it is where he end up going?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
What going to? That true? That's true for if you put.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Him on a better team with a better offensive line.
I mean, can we all agree there's obviously a development
period for a young quarterback and he's developing. Do you
think his development would be quicker if he had a
better line on a better team.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I do. I'm not a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Rogers can speak to that, but me personally, I think
any player that goes to a team that has listen,
say I'm using myself as a running back.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I got all the talent. You know I was talented,
but let's.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Say i'd have went to the Jets, I wouldn't have
been the Eric Dickerson that you knew that you know,
now I don't. I don't believe that. I mean, if
I went to the Browns, Uh, it wouldn't have happened.
You get put in a system, it's like he's a
better one. Emmitt Smith of the Dallas Cowboys. Emmitt went
to the perfect team for him for the for for
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his running style, coaching, the offosive line and everything.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
So if you put in a situation to succeed and
not not, but you know, it's no guarantee that's gonna happen.
That's the thing for It's no guaranteed. It borchlaze like that.
You're just blessed to get on a really good football
team has a a great quarterback, coach, a.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Great offensive line.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
That that that gets you makes you that much better,
that much faster. That can happen, or it can go
the opposite way. You can be a great player put
on a bad football team and never ever get the
credit that you actually really deserve to receive because of
the team you play and the guys that play around you.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
The Ford NFL Spotlights presented by Ford and Spotlight twenty
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Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, we'll come back and wrap it up. Back to
wrap it up on a Ford NFL Monday. Then is Tuesday.
Hall of Famer Eric Dixon, Rody p Fred Rogan. Okay,
who do you like? Rams Eagles?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Eric Rams? I think the Rams can win this football game.
I'll say it again. They'll turn this football over. Uh,
they can't turn the ball over. And if they don't,
I think they're just as good as the Eagle. Now
Eagles are right now. I think Matt Staff is playing
really good football. We have more weapons. I think the
defense is a more seasoned defense than they were last year.
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They played together for that one. You know, one year
they stret the defensive line. So I'm gonna take the
this game. I think it'll be a close one, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, close one. The fact that they're playing back in Philadelphia,
I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Eagles. I think the
Eagles are They're just playing with a lot of confidence
right now and playing at home. I think it's gonna
be the difference. It's gonna be close, But I just
think this time of year, the way the Eagles are playing,
I'm going with the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
All right.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Well, that'll wrap it up, Ronnie, thank you for a
great show. Kevin appreciate it as well. Ed always a treat.
We'll talk to you next week. Talk to you next week, Rodney,
talk tomorrow, right on
All right, we continue on Fred Rugan Rodney ed Eric
Dickerson in five to seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good to have Eric in the house. Fred talk Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Here, we've been talking football for an hour. Let's get
back to the Dodgers for a second. Then we'll carry on.
And last night I thought was really frustrating. I thought
Amageen looked great. Unfortunately the bullpen could not hold them. Rodney,
you mentioned earlier, and I agree, that's what playoff.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Baseball is going to look like.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hopefully it comes out the other way in the playoffs
for the Dodgers. You know, Vessia got tagged last night,
Jack Dryer got tagged last night, and they just ran
out of gas. I mean that's basically what it was.
The pitching, the bullpen gave it up and they lost
the game. But really an exciting game. And I know
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Dodger fans are frustrated, and the reality is it makes
it that much more difficult. I didn't think they'd catch
the Phillies anyway. So but if it finishes with them
and first place the Dodgers in the division, they hold
off the Padres and then they win their first one
wild card. Right now, would be against the Mats, they
would play the Phillies again, and I like their chances
against the Phillies Rotney.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I just thought last night was one of those games.
What do you think? Yeah, I mean, look, the Phillies
have been good pretty much all season long, and they
just won the nl East. They are more than likely
going to be the second seed, so they'll have, you know,
home field until the NLCS, and that is if Milwaukee
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gets knocked out, then they then they will have it.
But they've been consistent pretty much all season long. So yeah,
it's it is going to be a battle. It's going
to be a battle I think all through the playoffs
no matter who makes it. You know, you've got the Phillies,
You've got Milwaukee, who's been since what May when Milwaukee
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was on a skid and nobody thought Milwaukee would be
where they are now. But Milwaukee since May has been
the best team in baseball and they've been consistent all
year long. A lot of people contend, I think you
said it, Fred, that they you know, because of their inexperience,
once they get to the playoffs is going to be
different than the regular season, which we'll see. But you
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put Milwaukee you've got the Phillies, You've got the Dodgers.
You know, the Padres. As you know, we'll see if
they end up making if they continue to slide or
whatever they happen, But it looks like the Padres are
gonna be in the playoffs too. And then you know,
between the Cubs who are are playing really well, there's
gonna there's some good teams in the National League and
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it will be in these playoffs, and it's gonna be very,
very intense, uh, these playoffs, because I think all of
the teams, just based on the way they're playing, are
evenly matched. Now, if the Dodgers play up to their potential,
nobody can nobody can play with them. And if they're
healthy and you know, hopefully they can get healthy and
Will Smith can get back and Munsey and everybody you
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know remains healthy, then then Dodgers at full strength are
better than anybody. But you still have to play well
at that moment. And right now, as we've seen all
season long, the Dodgers have not played the best baseball
this year. Now that can all change, and Ed knows this.
Once you get to the playoffs, people start smelling the playoffs.
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There are guys that just rise to the occasion and
teams that just rise to the casion. And there are
teams that you know, can't really handle the moment. And
so we will see. But I'm still putting, uh, I'm
still putting my money on the Dodgers, if you know,
as the playoffs start next month.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
It's funny you say that, right. This was a couple
of months ago. I was in Dallas and the Tampa
Bay Rays were playing the uh, the Rangers, and I
was at the drive range and balls and guy came
home to two guys came, said Eric Diggerson. I said, yeah,
so we start. Yeah, I'm here, I'm one of the
coaches for the Tampa Bay Rays. And we start talking
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about the Dodgers and baseball and and I asked him,
I said, I said, I said, so, let me ask
you this. Dodgers were playing pretty good. I said, I said,
what makes the Dodgers so good? He says, he said,
first of all, two things make the Dodger. He said,
they got a really good organization. He said, if they
got so much talent, He said, let me tell you something.
He said, I'll say this to you. He said, if
the Dodgers stayed healthy, he said, no one could play
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with them. I mean, that's from a guy. He said,
that's how good the Dodgers are. He said, if they
can stay he said, but he said, you know it's
for the football and in any sport, if you don't
have your starters, I say, right, you know, you you
could lose. He said, but a healthy Dodgers baseball team,
and you say, you take any team in baseball. He said,
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they can't beat the Dodgers. And I was like, I
was like, wow, I really say the Dodgers are that stacked.
And I was, I mean, I was impressed. I'm like, okay,
because you know, I'm I became a Dodger fan because
of Time Ofless Order, and so to hear that from
someone who you know, had nothing game, he just we
just I just asked him a baseball question. He said, yeah,
he said, the Dodger a healthy said no one could
beat them. But like you said, Rodney, they've had they've
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got injuries, and Maxi Monty's out of and you know,
and and then the bullpen has not been great, so
you know, and but in baseball it's like anything football,
and the playoffs meant anything can happen.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Anything can happen.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, they seem to be getting healthy eric at the
right time. The pitching staff is now healthy. Uh And
and they hit the ball last night, so it wasn't
as if they didn't hit last night. So that was
good news. Just a bullpen kind of let it get away.
And you hope that doesn't happen, you know, consistently.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, But but the keyword is they lost, you know that,
And that's it true. You know, hitting, pitching, and it's
all great. I mean, but if if you could have
a no hit, if you lose one to nothing, you
still lost.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I mean, don't make a difference. A great game.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But we loved we lost last night. Yeah, extra any
nobody cares. You still lost the game. He's still still
game that he could have you could have won. And
and you know, and most years, even early in the
season when they started off, those were the games. Last
night were the games that Dodgers would win, right, no
matter how it turned out it got close in the
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in the late innings or he went into extra innings,
Dodgers found a way to win. And I thought that
was gonna happen last night too. When you know, you
get the extra innings. You kind of almost resigned to
the fact that, you know, the the visiting team is
going to get one run when you start somebody at
second base, They're going to find a way to get
that run in. So you're gonna you're gonna concede the
one run. But for the Dodgers not to even match
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that and not win that game, you know, that's something
that's a game that they win, you know when they
start the season, or that's a game that they win
when they're going good. Let's go back to football.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So Tom Brady was shown last night in the Raiders
booth during the game. He had a head set up
and people wondered, did that bylight NFL rules? He works
for Fox, he's a part owner of the Raiders. Now
he's in the coaching booth with a headset on. Truth
of the matter is it violates nothing. A co owner
or team personnel like that limited partner can be in
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the coaching booth with a headset on. Per league rules,
they can't call plays. I mean, you know they're not
making decisions.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Why not Al Davis did well that was in the house. Yeah,
why can't they call plays? You know all these owners
that come down to the sidelines. You know, you can't
do that. That would be you know, that's the same
equivalent if he's in the box as opposed to as
Arthur Blank or Jerry Jones or whomever coming down to
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the sidelines in the fourth quarter. What's the difference.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I guess optically, and because it's Brady and because of
his affiliation with Fox, all eyes around them at all times.
But they did say calling the game right, Yeah, but
because he is a representative of Fox, he would have
in the minds of owners, uh, information about other teams
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and certainly about the Raiders. So other teams are very
careful to talk around him because he doesn't want They
don't want to go back and tell the Raiders. I mean,
it's that's really how they're thinking he didn't do anything wrong.
I think the whole thing is absurd. Personally, I think
I think it is completely absurd.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's like anything you think, you think, you think Eric Dickerson,
he's you know, on the sideline in San Francisco because
he's hanging out uh and doing a story on Ronnie
Lot that they gonna you know, oh, we're gonna open
up to Eric dision because they're gonna be careful around
Eric Dickerson because they think he may come back and
tell the Rams something that's no different than anybody.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You did, you did Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Right, that was terrible at it?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But yeah, okay, and uh, would you after sitting in
the team meetings and stuff what you got to do?
Would you immediately call the Rams and tell them what
another team was doing?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Absolutely not, No, don't do that. No, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And even if he did, the teams are not gonna
give up all.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
The secrets and they ain't gonna say everything in front
of me anyway. So now anybody, yeah, you do that? No,
you know, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
You think I'm gonna say, Okay, on third down into
this is what we're gonna run.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
This, this is the play wenn a toss running back past.
That's what we're gonna do. No, that's what's coming.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
We want to go.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
That's that's what gonna run. That ain't I'm gonna tell you.
The funny thing that this thing that makes no sense
to me is that, Okay, say you play for I
play for the Rams, and I'm in the NFL. I
can't bet on other teams. Another team. My buddy plays
for a team. Oh, I can't. I can't bet on baseball.
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I can't bet that. That makes no sense. You can't
bet on other sports. I can't bet on an NBA game?
How is that gonna affect the NFL? But but the
owners can bet. I bet they betting. They owned a
lot of some of these betting sites.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Owners a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
No bet Oh come you think you don't think they
bet fred? Come on now under the table. But I
don't think outwardly they can. They might not bet out,
but you know they'd be betting. But give on.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But I just understand, how can How can I? I
played for the Rams? How can I change if the
Dodgers playing in the Phillies and I bet on that,
what is that gonna change?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Maybe the theory. Well first, maybe the theory is because
you are an athlete, you know somebody on either team
and could get information.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
But that makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
So I think you're referencing something that happens to I
think a few Colts players a couple of years ago,
so they were on team, in the team facility betting
on other games. I think NBA games, and that's something that's.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Different sport though they weren't betting on others. Correct the basketball?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Basketball, you can bet you can bet on other sports
that they don't want you gambling on anything on n
f A facilities. I think that's where the technicality came up.
But the players are allowed to bet on other sports,
they just can't bet on anything the NFL.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, because they got the big signs when you go
into the facility, no gambling, no gambling, no gambling, all
that kind of stuff all over the place.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
But what's the difference in betting that at home?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But you can't bet on at the facility? Ed, I
think that was the biggest issue, that they were betting
at the facility.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So what's so what's going what's the difference if I'm
sitting in my car betting in the facility or if
I'm at home? And what's the different?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
There is.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Just that a bunch of hypocrits, you know, the hippocrits.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
And yes, and by the way, I did look up.
So the owners are bound to the same rules as
the players. Legally, they're under NFL rules. They are not
supposed to bet on football.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
The right matter of fact, speaking of change the subject
totally in my hotel room. You know, first of all,
I'm an I'm a nee freak, I'm a need free.
But my hotel room right now, I got stuff. I
feel like a whore. Have you ever seen a hoarder?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
They had the whole shows on the hoarders on Man.
I just I swear if somebody came in out, be embarrassed.
I just cannot keep a whtel room clean. But you
just dump everything out of your bag. I'm just just
a mess man. I'm like, it's just messy. I'm like,
this is disgusting. I could not be a hoarder. I mean,
it's just.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
What did you jump out? Eric?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
But what I'm saying, ad you a neat freak? What
are you talking about? But but but right at hotels.
For some reason, in a hotel room, I cannot keep
it together.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, I got I got a fruit basket. I've
got fruit around here everywhere. I mean, I've got the
trash can running over and I ain't been there by
the day. I mean, i mean, I'm like, this is
I said, this is this is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I'm like, well, how much stuff did you have to
bring for one day?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Man? Fred, I'm gonna tell you first, I've been gone
for four days and you would swap me gone for
a month. I mean, I mean, I'm like, why did
I bring so much? I got two suitcases like a woman.
I don't know, nothing is women, But I mean, I'm like,
you know, women care got? I got got my man Come,
I got my shoes, I have my hair rider.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I'm like, what I got? What did I hell?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I got two suitcases for and a golf bag and
they got another bag from the golf court.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I'm like, How'm gonna get all this stuff home? Well?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
How are you going to get at home?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I don't know, Fred, I'm going to leave something. I'm
gonna leave somebody at bag.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's it bag.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Nice's that's a nice bag. Yeah, it's it's a nice bag.
It's a nice bag. You forgot.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Jeffrey does a nice job up here this Turnum he's
been doing it for fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, so a long time.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But yeah, I'm just I'm really I'm really embarrassed with
what my hotel room looks right now.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Just it's messy.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'm sure you're not gonna know about any guests over.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Oh, absolutely not. I wouldn't have nobody coming this room.
It's too it's too it's too messy.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Is it a sweet?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
It's a sweet, Yes, it's as sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Man, I don't like small hotel rooms. I got, I got.
I got a phobia by a small hotel room. Even
when I fly, you know, when you fly, like when
you fly, I got to check the kind of plane
I get on. I like, you know, if it's a
seven sixty seven, I like to seven seven seven to
lay down beds. Yeah, I'm one thing. I'm a snob.
And on flying I'm a snob. And hotel I'm a
(14:06):
snob traveler to I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Snob is like that.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And they try to sneak them planes by you too.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Oh yeah, we got you in first and that first
class is like a like a you know, coach long
years ago. It's just bad. I can't even lean back
and there's no room and all that. It's just bad.
They're like they get over.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Man, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Did you see a story about people that buy window
seats but there's no window in that seat? United Airlines
to suit that people. My window seat, but the seat
there was no window but.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
No, check this. They're on the edge and there's no window.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Right there on the end, there's no window. But you
bought a window seat, so there's just there's just no
window there at right. There's no window there, not like
they put you in the aisle when you bought window seat.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's just no window. Right.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Wow, Okay, let me let me let me ask you
this for and you you right, you're on the plane.
Let's say let's say you got the I seat and
that somebody sitting next to you, and you know you
want to try to go to sleep or something like that.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You're trying to watch a movie on your hot path and.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
They got the window up and they're looking out the
window like they're looking for something.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I was saying, Wow, what the hell are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
We tharted while you in the air. While you're in
the air.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
To us, it's frustrated.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Look everybody I saw, I seen them sit next to
everybody got there.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Let the damn shader.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Everybody else shading down and your shader. I'll be looking
at him like, oh my gosh, what do you do?
I just I just want to say, what are you
looking for? Alien? Or something coming? I don't say nothing. Boy,
I'm so and from I won't sell you my body
(15:49):
my body language, like I mean, I mean, they be
looking all down like trying to see the ground, looking
all up like, and.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I'm like, what the hell are you looking for? Me?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Really?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
It's frustrating, you.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Know, Eric, you said something earlier made me think. So,
you know you have a phoby about hotel rooms, but
you live in a hunted house. Now how does that work?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Well, I mean, I live in that house.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I've been at the house for forty years now more so
I know that I know the ghost in that house.
I know that house. I mean, I mean, now, if
you saw my hotel, you think this hotel.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Is hunted too. It's kind of old. I see a picture.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's got a picture of a heismand trophy across the
way with a canary over it. And I'm like, what's
that all about? Canary over the housingand trophy. It's a
picture of a hiland trophy and it's a canary with
a bale over its head. And then I got a
picture of a wall with like a bunch of fake
books and not books that drawing the books with a
red sofa. I'm like, I mean, it's kind of weird looking,
(16:47):
but I mean I would think this coattail is kind
of honey too.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I wouldn't be surprised if Dracula come walking out of
one of these clouds. I wouldn't be shot.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
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Speaker 6 (17:13):
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Speaker 2 (17:28):
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you guys see.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The story Adam Schefter reporting Baltimore was gonna pick Shadoor Sanders,
but he told him not to drop him because he
didn't want to be Lamar's backup. He wanted to go
somewhere where he could compete to start. All right, you
hear that story and do you think that was wise?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Eric?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Do you think that was Wyse Rodney. Do you need
do you know it's true? It's reported by Adam Schefter,
So we're going to say it's true.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
You sure Adam is Jesus now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Are you sure it's true if it's so much reported
on this kid? Unfortunately that you know what I mean
that I don't I don't necessarily buy everything that's that's
reported out there. Well, let's assume it's true.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Was it the right tim? So we're assuming. Now when
you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Look, at the end of the day, you know, guys
feel a certain way, right you know, who knows if
that's what he actually said. And you know when they're
Baltimore saying, hey we want to draft you. We want
to draft you in the second round, or we want
to draft you late in the first round. No, don't
draft me because I don't want to be Levar's But
that doesn't sound right, doesn't doesn't sound right?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Don't you know what I mean? Make sense?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
We're gonna do teams gonn do what they want to
do anyway. Hey, yeah, we don't care what you want.
You don't care what you want.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, for the most part, Yeah, you're not coming into
We're not coming in to make you the starter right away,
which is different. Oh, I'm gonna hold out. I'm not
gonna play for you. That's that's that's a different whole,
different different story.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Let me ask you, friend, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, Oh, I think that's that. I think that's eminently
possible that that happened. And my question is, because you
guys played, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
What does that mean? I think it's possible it happened. Yes,
I think it happened.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I think I think that'd have been really big, big news,
though fare I don't think that would come out this late.
I think that had been like it's like an l
Waited told the coast, don't draft me, I'm not coming in,
and like Eli.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Manning told what told San Diego.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That was that was public. Everybody under that, I mean Archie,
Archie was saying it and always Dad was saying it.
And if you you think that that that if he
said that, you, like Eric's point is just coming out now.
You don't think that would have came out in April
when the draft was happening.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That had been that had been another knock on it. See,
you know, he said he tell us not to draft
the front.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Page news every day all day. If that was the
case that he said, don't draft me because I don't
want to be Lamar's backup. The fact that it's coming
out in September, you know, and all the news, Oh
he got demoted to not even running scout team now
and everybody making a big deal about that and all
the team Well, well, and no, because now somebody else
(20:24):
is running scout team, They're like, make its headline news
because he's not even he's not even the scout team
quarterback anymore. You know that that becomes front page news.
So no, come on, does that make sense to you, Fred,
that if he if he did that, if he actually
said that, the first time we're hearing about this is
(20:46):
September sixteenth, week three.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Of the NFL season, Yeah, that don't hit up? Does
that make sense to you, Fred? Well, I think perhaps
Adam Schefter now.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Using perhaps and possibility and imminent and and you're skirting
around every single it'say yes or no question.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well yeah I think you could. I actually think yes,
that did happen. They played Cleveland, Cleveland played Baltimore. There's
a connection there, and I just look at it more
from the perspective when a guy comes out and you know,
if you're gonna be able to actually think that that's
This is the first time everybody's hearing about this that
(21:25):
he didn't want to play all the hype around your
door that he received pre pre draft, his senior year,
pre draft combine leading up to the draft, dropping to
the fifth round, sixth or whatever it was, and this
is the first time we are hearing that he didn't
want to go.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
To Baltimore because he's gonna be the backup. I don't
believe that for I don't care what Adam Schiff said.
I know they say I'm shift, ain't Jesus, I don't
believe it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, I don't think he denied it when he was
asked about it, and I think he just said I
don't want to talk about.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
The past, and that's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Often do you think he's question about every putting on
his shoes putting on the left shoe first instead of
the right foot. I mean, at some point you you
don't want to answer nonsense and first and second of
second of all, he's not the starter in Cleveland, so
why why are you coming to me asking me all
kinds of questions. I'm just trying to get through the
(22:20):
season as a rookie here, and now you're you're bringing
up stuff that supposedly happened in April.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Because that's gonna make headlines. That's gonna that makes big headlines.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
If they if they would find out for sure that
this happened, that would be like, oh wow, man, that's headline. Yeah,
he could have been a Baltimore Raven. He could have
learned behind Lamar Jackson and think about it. Okay, even
Lamar Jackson. I even asked, he Knews knew some about
Lamarrony drafted because you know, it was so much specking it.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
He can't do this, he can't do that, he can't throw,
and remember this, he can't.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Flacco was the quarterback. Flaco was the starting quarterback and
they had just won the Super Bowl. You the front
prior to that or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
So I asked, let me ask you a question, man,
can the kid really play? Y'all just drafting him, you know,
because he's a good athlete. He sent ericaim seven, tell
you this kid can play. He said, he can make
a DC, he can help us win Super Bowls. I'm like, really,
and that's what he told me he was. That's when
he was a general manager of the of the Baltimore Ravens.
I said, okay, and I took his word for it,
and I would say, you know, he he didn't want
(23:24):
a Super Bowl, but he has been a superstar on
that football team.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
He's made a big two MVPs. I mean, I mean,
so so he was right. I don't buy it. I
don't buy that. This is this is what happened. Is
somebody of somebody else, and somebody else told somebody that
he may have said that he didn't want to be
a backup, And it could be as very well as innocent,
as like, man, you know, I sure like to go
to a place where I could compete the start and
(23:50):
and that be it. And then it turns into he
didn't want to go to Baltimore because he didn't want
to play behind Lamar Jackson. Like if you ask somebody
a general question and say, well, which which team would
you like to go to? And his answer could be
I like to go to a place where I can
compete for the starting job, and someone says, well, you know,
(24:14):
Baltimore was thinking about picking you that starts to get out,
he won't have to say another word, but they could
take and splice it that he wants to go to
a place where he can compete for a starting job.
Baltimore was thinking about taking him. But because he said
he'd like to go to a place he'd like to
compete for a starting job, that means he doesn't want
to go to Baltimore. That's how the spin works audio.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Oh, he says, just say, you know what, going to Baltimore,
Potter and get a chance to play much because of
Lamar Jackson being there. Oh, he said, you don't want
to go to Baltimore, you know, I mean, I mean
they say so much when when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
The as that and you actually believe Fred, you actually
as a journalist with all the hype on your doing,
why if you're coming journalists But okay, you've been in
sports forever, Fred, all the hype around him, I asked
you to Kevin, all the hype around him leading up
(25:11):
to the draft that this is the first time that
you hear.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Shador did not want to go to Baltimore because he
didn't want to be a backup to Lamar. Adam Schefter
reported that I believe it.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
I find the timing to be odd. But the fact
that he the fact that he didn't deny it, I'll
find that to be interesting too. I don't want to
talk about the past. Is like if it didn't happen,
to say it didn't happen, and this is not it's
a non story.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
But but even you know, even addressed the damned if.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
If he says I didn't do it, he didn't do it,
we move on.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
You're if you're reporting as erroneous, didn't happen?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Okay? Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Fred, Fred Rogan we we uh. There's rumors out there
that you, uh that youh sexually assaulted someone.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
What say you, Fred? That's absurd? Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
I said that's absurd.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Fred denies sexually assault, sexual assault. That's the headline.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, that would make that would make news too, that
that that one hundred percent, It would that make that
makes news.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Now Fred says he didn't. Fred said he didn't. Fred
said he didn't.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Fred denies sexual assault.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It's all over the times.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
That's looking back at Fred's history.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You're not going to find anything. Eric not even going
to be an issue. Let's look back for anyway, anyway, listen, listen,
and I know you, you know you got a love
affair with Adam Schefter and all that kind of stuff,
and everything comes out of his mouth is I don't
really know Adam Scheff, to be honest with you. Gospel.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
He lives out here, suppose, so I get I.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Get where you're coming from.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I get where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I just find it fishy that you know, this is
the first time that we're hearing that he didn't he did.
He said he didn't want to go to Baltimore, didn't
want to be drafted by Baltimore because he didn't want
to be a backup to Lamar Jackson. Did he say
that about other teams that were maybe interested in him too,
That's my question. Don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's not reported right, not reported right? All right, Well,
let's just talk about this real quick. Rodney Caleb Williams.
What do you think he is in his development? Oh,
he can't play, He's horrible. He's never going to be
a star in this league. He can never he can
never succeed in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, he's just.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
He's a bust already in a season in two games.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Hey, let me tell you what I think though, I
told Richard did this and he's here at this tournament.
When they had what's the quarterback that trade? They said,
to william went to Pittsburgh. But he's a justin field fields,
I said. He said, man, he hold the ball too long.
You know he's gonna readdefense. And I said, then, I said,
the kid ain't getting no blocking. I said, running for
(28:08):
his life every time he no, man, I said Richard,
I said, I'm tennis. So he said, I'm telling we're
gonna get Caleb Wis. I said the same thing, having
to Caleb Williams. Why I said, he's gonna be running
for his life? Why I said, Richard ain't got no blocking.
He ain't got a body to throw too. No, I'm
telling him, I said, Okay, talking to him yesterday, what
do you say he running for his life? I said,
did I tell you that? I said, every quarterback come
(28:30):
here running for his life.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, you don't know. And to you know, allow allow uh,
First of all, allow him to be with Ben Johnson
for a year before we just go, oh, he can't
do this, he can't do that. Allow him to play
half the season. First he got he said, what, Uh,
basically two coaches and one year, two systems in one
(28:55):
year as a rookie, he had to play under two
head coaches, and now he's got a new head coach,
and so just I mean, really allow the kid to
get his feet wet with a new head coach who
just got there a by the way, a first time
head coach. So allow that to kind of develop a
(29:15):
little bit. And to Eric's point, you sacked more than
anybody else in the league last year. Allowed them who
tried to address the offensive line in the off season,
allowed them to kind of jell a little bit before
you start to just call a guy or this and that.
That's what everybody did with Arch Manning down in Texas.
They already appointed him the number one pick in the
(29:37):
draft before the season started.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Come home, man.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Now, the same people, the same people that were saying
that that he's the he's the best prospect since John Elway.
He's the number one pick in the draft. I mean,
all these people backpedaling and going back on what they
said and just played the clips because they all said it.
And now they're like, oh, well, we knew he wasn't
(30:04):
quite as good as everybody said he was, and oh
he's struggling.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Oh he's he couldn't even he couldn't even be the
Ers out. He could even beat him out. So that
show you this was your fifth round pick? Can beat
him out?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
That should be a question to begin with, right, right?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Can be this? You can't beat him out?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
When I think of Caleb Williams, I wonder, okay, and
you guys have always said, you know, a lot of
it is where he end up going?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
What going to? That true? That's true for if you put.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Him on a better team with a better offensive line.
I mean, can we all agree there's obviously a development
period for a young quarterback and he's developing. Do you
think his development would be quicker if he had a
better line on a better team.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I do. I'm not a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Rogers can speak to that, but me personally, I think
any player that goes to a team that has listen,
say I'm using myself as a running back.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I got all the talent. You know I was talented,
but let's.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Say i'd have went to the Jets, I wouldn't have
been the Eric Dickerson that you knew that you know,
now I don't. I don't believe that. I mean, if
I went to the Browns, Uh, it wouldn't have happened.
You get put in a system, it's like he's a
better one. Emmitt Smith of the Dallas Cowboys. Emmitt went
to the perfect team for him for the for for
(31:27):
his running style, coaching, the offosive line and everything.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
So if you put in a situation to succeed and
not not, but you know, it's no guarantee that's gonna happen.
That's the thing for It's no guaranteed. It borchlaze like that.
You're just blessed to get on a really good football
team has a a great quarterback, coach, a.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Great offensive line.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
That that that gets you makes you that much better,
that much faster. That can happen, or it can go
the opposite way. You can be a great player put
on a bad football team and never ever get the
credit that you actually really deserve to receive because of
the team you play and the guys that play around you.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
The Ford NFL Spotlights presented by Ford and Spotlight twenty
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Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, we'll come back and wrap it up. Back to
wrap it up on a Ford NFL Monday. Then is Tuesday.
Hall of Famer Eric Dixon, Rody p Fred Rogan. Okay,
who do you like? Rams Eagles?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Eric Rams? I think the Rams can win this football game.
I'll say it again. They'll turn this football over. Uh,
they can't turn the ball over. And if they don't,
I think they're just as good as the Eagle. Now
Eagles are right now. I think Matt Staff is playing
really good football. We have more weapons. I think the
defense is a more seasoned defense than they were last year.
(32:54):
They played together for that one. You know, one year
they stret the defensive line. So I'm gonna take the
this game. I think it'll be a close one, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, close one. The fact that they're playing back in Philadelphia,
I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Eagles. I think the
Eagles are They're just playing with a lot of confidence
right now and playing at home. I think it's gonna
be the difference. It's gonna be close, But I just
think this time of year, the way the Eagles are playing,
I'm going with the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
All right.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Well, that'll wrap it up, Ronnie, thank you for a
great show. Kevin appreciate it as well. Ed always a treat.
We'll talk to you next week. Talk to you next week, Rodney,
talk tomorrow, right on
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