September 17, 2024 • 35 mins
Roggin and Rodney (Jonas Knox) talk about the Dodgers splitting in ATL and Bobby Miller pitching tonight + Trout news and Chargers Rams AND VTB.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right here we go one hour. There's sprint today.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Jonas knocks in today for Rodney on a five to
seventy LA Sports. So the Dodger's split in Atlanta, and
I think it's time to celebrate. Given the way the
first two games went. You'll take that split and get
out of town as quickly as you can.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I did happen to see your thoughts. So now you're
a little concerned. Not concerned throughout the course of the year,
but now you're a little concerned even though they got
the win yesterday. Now there's a little bit of a
problem in your mind when it goes to the postseason.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And I had absolutely no concern for the entire season,
not a shred, not one bit. But then when you
look at it and realize that you know, if they
go they need that four starter, it could be you, Jonas,
then we have a problem.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
You better hope it's not me. My kid.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I was playing a whiffleball with my son. Sure he
hit a ball that hasn't landed yet, and I was
trying to go off speed like we're talking, like I
was throwing screwball. I like brushed him off at one point.
He's three, So I think you know that's the appropriate
age to start showing him what.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
It's really like out there. Absolutely, And I.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Buzzed the tower at one point just to try and
rattle him, and he turned on a breaking ball that
I wasn't able to find. So you don't want me
anywhere near the mound for the Dodgers in the postseason.
But to your point, it does feel like there's a
reality that should set in and it feels like you're
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going to have to depend on We kind of alluded
to this last week. It does feel like you are
going to have to depend on what failed you last
year to get you through this year, which is the
top of the order at those bats, and if you
get a repeat of what happened last season, I'm with you,
I don't know what the solution is.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
When you say you're going to have to depend on
what failed you, meaning the top of the other bats,
if the pitch, if they can't find pitching, if they
have two pitchers two and a half, and then whatever
happens that top of the order, they better score twelve
runs a game.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
That's what I'm saying, Mike.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I'm not talking about you're gonna eque out three to two.
I'm saying, if you can't find anybody to pitch.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You need a three player race for NL MVP or NLCSMB,
Like you need like three guys at the top of
the order that are hitting everything. And it's a debate
at the end of the whole thing, like, hey man,
who do you give the MVP to? Like, like who
gets it? Because each guy's at like six home runs
in a series. It just feels like they're running out
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of options, and every time you turn there's more bad
news on the way. Like it wasn't that long ago
we were like, hey man, you know, if you can
get this sort of production at a ker shot, not
bad like that, he's a decent fourth starter. Now it's well,
I guess now you can't depend on him, and who knows,
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you know, beyond Yamamota through four innings.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
But there was a lot of traffic last night.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It just it just feels like every time you try
and find a glimmer of hope, there's something else that's
thrown in the way that's a problem. And I thought
your point was well said yesterday when you were like, hey, listen,
I just don't know who's going to pitch. I really
don't like it. It's a pretty simple question to ask,
but it's a problem for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
They're out of guys. They are out of guys.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
We talked about the fact that it seems, and I
don't know if you want to fact check it, but
just from a perception standpoint, they have more starting pitchers
injured than anyone. I can't even imagine, because they're all
basically hurt and they all have arm problems. And we
were talking about it and somebody hit me up on
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X and said, well, it's because of the pitch clock.
Do you understand everybody's not getting hurt because of the
pitch clock. That's not the issue here. You can't go, well,
you know that pitchclock. Now everybody's hurt. Everybody got hurt
because of the pitch clock. It's not that Jack Harris
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did a piece in the Times that was great. We
had Jack hun talking about trying to get more velocity,
working with guys to get more velocity, and everybody's body
doesn't react the same. It's not one size fits all.
But apparently, according to his peace, that's kind of what
they were doing.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Do it like this. If you do it like this,
you're going to have more velocity.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Great, But since everybody's body isn't constructed that way, doing
it like that might be a problem.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And I think that's what you see here.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
There is a serious problem, and now it's amplified because
we're moving to the playoffs. I can't this was the
one thing you never imagined. Never imagined they would not
have any pitching because they all got hurt. Maybe maybe
somebody would have a bad game. Okay, maybe somebody would
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have an off season, could happen, but because they're all injured,
there's no one left. Yeah, I'm a moto yesterday fore
innings good again. Just don't get hurt. Can you believe
were to that point? Get out there, give it your
best shot. Just don't get hurt.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Oh listen, we kind of and I don't think we
were joking. I mean, we threw it out there, but
it wasn't. We didn't spend a lot of time talking
about it last week. But it really becomes a bigger
deal now that you look back. What if they didn't
get the deal done for Flaarty at the deadline, because
that was down to the last minute, Like that was
literally the final seconds of the trade deadline and they
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were able to land him. What if they didn't, Like,
what are we talking about here? I like with like,
who's the option? And now you're going into the postseason.
It's like you're lying on a deadline acquisition and a
guy who did not look all that great last time
we saw him out there in Atlanta, and a guy
who just got off the I almost said, DL, I
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don't want to you know, listen, I don't want to
let your tongue.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to offend anybody.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But now you're relying on somebody who's dealt with injuries
all year long. That's your go too going into the postseason. Like, look,
as as troubling as this is, it could be so
much worse had they not made the deal of the deadline.
And then we're able to luckily get backy on motor
And still we say all that and he hasn't gone
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past four innings and either this starts back. So I
just I'm with you, man. I was not all that
concerned throughout the course of the year. But maybe it's
just a case of being snake bit like and for
people out there that are trying to find what's the
common denominator, and it's the pitch clock, and it's all
that man. Sometimes teams just go through bad breaks, no
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pun intended, Like because Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakoor injured,
does that mean the Rams wide receiver room needs to
be reevaluated. No, Like, sometimes you just have bad luck.
The Dodgers have ran into nothing but bad luck when
it comes to injuries and other things outside circumstances that
have popped up this year. And now you're limping to
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the finish line hoping you can depend on an offense
that has come up short in the postseason in previous years.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Is it going to be impossible. No, it's not going
to be impossible, But they're going to be an awful
lot of luck here and guys to step up in
ways that the guy's never even imagined possible. Bobby Miller
goes tonight in Miami. Bobby Miller knows he's been struggling.
Bobby Miller really wants to have a good game, I
promise you that. But the people that want Bobby Miller
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to have a good game more than Bobby Miller does
are the Dodgers. The Dodgers need him to have a
good game. The Dodgers desperately need him to pitch well,
to try to get back in some way, shape or
form to the place he was desperately need that. I
think tonight is a big, big start for Bobby Miller.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, and yet, so you say all that and it's
the Marlins who cares.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Well, I'm just saying, like, you're not what he's been pitching.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I don't care if it's in Sino little Ly.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Okay, Well, I think that doesn't get out there.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think that's all over the plate and try to
strike somebody out.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I think that's insulting to Encino Littlely. To be honest
with you, I don't want to apologize for it to
the Encino Little League team that's listening right now. I
just want to apologize. Fred's a big fan of you know,
Danny Almonte and Chinese Taipei.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
And some of the other powerhouses from the nineties.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So I just want to apologize that you were dragged
into this and you caught astray as we're getting ready
for the postseason.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
When it comes to the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
My point is, yeah, he could go out there and
have a strong outing against the Marlins, Like you're not
seeing a Marlins team in the postseason. So it's just
I just think it's going to come down to are
they going to be able to get any sort of
run support, because if we're talking one in twenty one,
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I don't even know if you bother showing up for
the third game in the opening series. Like, I just
I think we're the point that you're like, and yet
they're still favored to win the World Series. Like, they're
still the favorites. So you know, you ask the people
you go to DraftKings in some of these other places,
even despite all the injuries and all the concern and
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all the stuff that we've laid out, and the fact
that you know, we've finally reached a point when you
have all of a sudden said, Okay, now I'm worried.
Now I'm concerned. Yet for some reason, there's still the
favorites to win the whole thing. So maybe that's a
testament to the offense and Otani and the year he's having.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But yeah, I'm with you. It feels like this is
going to be a problem.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Just maybe, just maybe this becomes that Cinderella story. A
team that was supposed to win the whole thing then
goes through incredible hardship, suffers multiple injuries, basicly well, despite
the fact having one of the best records in baseball,
could be on life support. But then it's this Hollywood ending. Somehow,
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some way, that pitching staff comes together. They don't with spit,
they just holds it together. Yeah, relievers become starters. Starters
pitch better than anticipated, the offense explodes, and in this magical,
magical story with a Hollywood ending, against all odds, the
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Dodgers win the World Series.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
This year.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, almost like the year that that people expected them
to fall apart because.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Of the year they've had. Is the year they get
it done.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
All the other years, the build up, the well this
is the year hashtag this team. No, no, no, no,
it was actually twenty twenty four, and this patchwork duct
tape and bubblegum rotation and an offense that wouldn't quit.
It's to deliver a World Series parade to this town
for the first time in a long time. I'm with you,
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I hope that that's the case, but damn they need
some arms. Like it's just I mean, like when I
saw the glass now news.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I thought, no, no, no, no, no, no, there's no way.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You didn't believe that. You didn't believe I didn't believe.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It because I just thought, no, like, they've seen this
enough times to where not him too.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And then when he saw that it was him too.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And day but whenever David Vassey sends a tweet out
in the middle of the day, Uh, Dave Roberts just
said you can just tell the despair in his voice
when he sends the tweet, like, you can just tell
the And I thought, oh my, I him too, like
what are the options? And then, if I'm not mistaken,
that was the same day that Flaherty got lit up, correct?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I think was that?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah? Was that Saturday? I think that's when the news
came out. Yeah, it's I I.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Don't I don't recall a team getting dealt bad news
after bad news after bad news like they've been dealt
when it comes to injuries this year.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So how do you think Dave Roberts felt when he
just had to volunteer that?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
How do you think he felt?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I mean, well, I gotta be honest with you, I
think we've seen the last what what where did that
come from.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
No one expected to hear that.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
It's like it's like, hey, Dave, so do you anticipate
Tyler starting game one or like game two of the postseason?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Well about that, you know? And then it was like.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Wait, hold on, wait, hold on him too, like nobody's safe, man,
it's and I do wonder is there going to be
a discussion does the conversation get louder for the training
staff and and how this team is constructed and how
this team is preparing for seasons? Like I do wonder
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what the offseason looks like for that, because it's too
late now to do anything about it. I mean, you're
in the season. You're just trying to survive. But I
wonder what the discussion is like in the off season.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well, the Dodgers have sent Andrew Friedman said, we've got
to take a look at this. I mean, we have
to do a deep dive into this and figure out
what's going on. And we'll do that when the season
is over, because right, what are they going to do now?
There's nothing for him to do.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
He can't.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I mean, here's the thing. Plaski talked about it over
a month ago, wrote it in The Times. Initially it
was absolutely positively no way. Now, well we'll see sho hey,
Otani may have to pitch every game. Now, look at
it like this. Granted he hadn't pitched in a while.
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It's tough to put the guy into that situation. You
don't want to hurt his arm again. But given that
he's not pitched, maybe he could start every single game.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Okay, I do think that would work.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Well, look, I mean just to see what happens, Like,
you know, what, what are the odds? You know, like
we've already been dealt enough bad luck, Like maybe this
is the year and this is the time to go
ahead and run a guy out there every day, just
to see what happens. Like, let's challenge the whole can
this also go wrong? Theory that a lot of people
have been talking about when it comes to this team,
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I just you know what I was thinking about, like
a scenario, and you tell me how this would play out?
All right, it's a game seven, yeah, World Series? Okay,
they've I mean, you ran out every starter to say
win and save game six?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
All right?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Do you start to even though they've been talking about
next year, next year and next year, do you at
least entertain the thought of throwing show Heyo Tani out
there in a game seven to win a World Series?
Is it worth your plan for him from a recovery
standpoint and a rehab standpoint to throw him out there
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in a game seven to win a World Series this year?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And what would he do? Would he close or would
he start start? Hmm, well he's throwing now. The Dodgers
obviously like to stretch their guys out. They're very analytical
and how they do things. He's not pitched at all correct.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Not not at all up to this point.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
No, okay, yes, put him out there.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I really think that they would, honest to god, I
really think that if you could get to that point
to where that's a decision, and you know, we're talking
another what month and a half before that would get
to that or you know, potentially closer to two months,
if you got to that point, I really think that
they would strongly consider the fact that Dave Roberts didn't
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totally dismiss it. Wasn't like, oh no, absolutely not absolutely not,
Like you know, I wouldn't say the chances are not zero,
Like I think that that's something that they've at least
internally discussed like, hey, in a jam, in a tough spot,
you know, with an opportunity here, what would you think
about this? And it would not surprise me if that
was that was something that entertained and put them out.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
There, that that would be something I'm all in.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I mean, if you get to if they get to
Game seven and everything is on the line, despite the
fact that guy had in pitching like two years, just
throw him in there.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Uh Okay, I actually forgot somebody was playing for a
team in this town. I actually forgot. Geez, I'm gonna
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ownest knacks in today for Rodney. I forgot Mike Trout
still plays for the Angels. Oh Jesus I did. I
felt like such an idiot. I read a report that
Mike Trout said he is you know, he's willing to
switch positions, and I thought, is he still playing? He
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has been hurt so much. I suddenly thought he was
Anthony Rendon And now he's amenable to switching positions. Make
him the DH. Done, and that doesn't ensure his health
because he gets hit with pitches. But make him the DH.
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If you want to see Mike Trout, make him the DH.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You can't throw him out there at first at base
a little bit and make him learn that position. I mean,
guy's a great defender when healthy, like in his younger days.
If he could figure out center field, why couldn't he
figure out first base?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Did you not forget he was even there? Serious? And
I feel like such an idiot.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Well, I think the most insulting thing there is comparing
him to Anthony Rendon, because you know, at least Mike
Trout does want to come back and play Anthony Rendon.
And by the way, no no shame or dislike or
hate on Anthony Rendon. I think it's hilarious his approach
to this whole thing, because hey, I got paid, I
got my money. No, baseball is not the most important
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thing to me.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
It just isn't.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I'm sorry that's going to offend some people. You know,
most important thing for me is my family, so on
and so forth. And if you say anything to him
at a game against Oakland, he's going to threaten to
assault you. But I I mean, yeah, I knew Mike
Trout was there because what else they got. I mean, like,
like what is there? So of course you got Mike
Trout there. I mean, he's not going anywhere. You cannot
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afford to lose him if you already lost Otani, you
just can't.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
But he has missed more games than he's played in. Yeah,
and it's been that way for a while.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I mean, are you saying he peaked.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I'm not saying. I'm not saying it's a question of peaking.
I'm saying, get him play, not saying he peaked. I mean, yeah,
he was the MVP a couple of times. I don't
think it's gonna get better than that. But see, here
is the downside, right here is the downside of these
monster contracts. I know the Dodgers sign Yamamoto, I know
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they signed Mookie. I got it. But I've always been
a proponent of not doing that. And here is the
cautionary tale. We're gonna sign him. We're gonna give him
the money. By the way, he deserves the money. I'm
not saying he doesn't, but we're gonna sign him for
all these years and now look, now, look what happened.
He's still getting paid. I'm not saying he didn't earn
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it for his years of success when he was healthy.
But what good does this do with the team now?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Not much really zero.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I do wonder because you've you've seen you know, the
Scott Boris guys when they hit free agency, and I
think it was like the Boris for it was Bellinger
and a couple other guys, and you know, they weren't
able to get deals this year. And I just wonder,
not so much from a representation standpoint, but if situations
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like Mike Trout and the way those contracts have aged
have soured teams like, look, gian Carlos Stanton got a
monster deal back in the day that hadn't aged all
that well. I mean, you know, he's put together decent
years at the plate, but there's a lot of times
where people were taught.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Weren't we talking this off season about.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You know, if the Yankees are thinking about parting ways
with John Carlos Stanton, what the Dodgers could be a
landing spot, Like it's hard to live up to the contract,
which is what Otani's doing and what makes that so
special because it is hard to live up to that,
and yet his is the biggest we've seen and all
he's done is put together a historic year. So yeah,
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I mean, look, if not for Mike Trout, I don't
know what.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
The Angels would have to offer. I really don't. It
feels alphabatic.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Well, all I know is that it's another year of
the same. I mean, he didn't come back, he went
to rehab and he got hurt again. He got hurt rehabbit.
I don't know what they do. I really don't. On
the topic of the injuries, Cooper Cup could go on
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the IR.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah, it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So you've lost both receivers. It's two games, Jonas And
if you talk to people and you guys talk NFL
all the time on your national show, Oh my god,
if you've lost two games, you're in trouble. How much
trouble could you be in you've lost two games. Well,
if you lose five games in a row at the
beginning of the season, I think you're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Well, the numbers would point to what we've seen since
the expanded play because before the expanded playoffs, it was
like twelve percent of teams that started off zero to
two in the NFL made the playoffs, and then when
they expanded the back in twenty twenty to the fourteen
team format, only two teams of twenty one possible that
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have started zero to two have gone on to make
the playoffs. So the numbers would tell you you don't
want to be on that side of it, like you
don't want to be oh and two. But the bigger
problem is, yeah, the injuries are mounting up. I mean
Pooka Nakua, like, this was an injury that he suffered
before the season, and then he gets to the first
game and couldn't even make it out of there. And
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then Cooper Cup had a monster first game and it
was like, Okay, now we remember how great of a
player he is. And then we get to week two
and they lose him as well. And Matt Stafford is
seemingly always banged up. It's why I said that loss
against the Lions on Sunday Night Football to open up
the year was a massive loss because they could have
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won that game. There was an opportunity for them to
close out that game. Stafford missed that throw to Cooper
Cup on a critical third down late, which would have
given them the first down, and they would have just
ground the clock out and won that first game in Detroit.
And now you come away from that, you don't convert
that third down, you lose that game, you get eaten
alive in overtime, and then you go to Arizona and
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they got mutilated in Arizona this week. It wasn't close,
And you got to start asking yourself, Fred, if you
look at the Rams injuries that have mounted up, you
look at the Niners injuries that are starting to mount up.
Deebo Samuel is also out. All of a sudden, the
Arizona Cardinals are sitting there with a dynamic quarterback Marvin
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Harrison Junior, Like there's a reality in which.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
The Arizona Cardinals could win this division.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
All right, I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but it
does feel like one of those fluky years where injuries
are piling up for two of the favorites to win
the division, and yet Arizona is lurking with a really
effective Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, how did that happen?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I don't know, but he's fun, he's fine.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The Rams. I just thought, how did that happen. How
did that happen?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It's just two weeks in man, and there's there's just concern,
Like there's concern in San Francisco, there's concern with the Rams,
like it just feels like, you know, and there's no
Aaron Donald this year, Like it just feels like this
team's headed in the wrong direction fast.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And I know, look, I know it's just two games.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
There's a long season ahead, but man, the numbers do
not look good on the side of the Rams, like
it feels like a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
As for the Charger, they're two and oh.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
They're not overly exciting and watching them, you're not overly inspired,
but you are watching the team that's two and oh
and running the ball and playing some Jim Harball football.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
They stayed back east this week because they have Pittsburgh.
That'll be an interesting matchup on Sunday. Yeah, but Justin
Herbert's X rays came back negative. He has a right
lower leg injury. And when I saw that, I thought,
what is this the NHL? Because in hockey, no matter what,
they never tell you who's right, what you really got.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
They've got a lower body injury.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
That is my favorite thing about hockey is at the
end of the year, they go, yeah, it seems like
he's laboring, like he's dealing with something. And then after
a team gets eliminated, you find out the next day, Oh, yeah,
so and so broke his kneecap and tore six ligaments
in his right knee. He should be back in six
to eight months. Wait what like that's and nobody says anything.
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They just keep it a secret. That's Jim Harbaugh, baby, listen.
He does it differently than everybody else. Everybody's all about
the show in this town. They're all about the flash,
all about the sizzle and the bright lights. And Jim
Harbo's like, no, we're gonna go offensive line with our
first pick. We're gonna get rid of all of our
top receivers, and we are going to run the ball
down your throat. That's what we're gonna do with a
two hundred plus million dollar quarterback. Good for him, Good
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for the Bolts. Hey, you know what I always say, Fred,
bolt up or bolt down.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I didn't realize you always said that.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yep, yeah, now you do.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Now I do.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
The thing about what Harball is doing and the Chargers,
they are really given the style of play, and long
term it could be the correct style. Obviously, Harball's went
everywhere with it. They're under the radar, they're really under
the rates. Yeah, and I didn't expect Pittsburgh to be
chewing out at this point, did you?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
No? But I'm so sick of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It like that right there goes to show you culture
is everything, Like there's a reason why Mike Tomlins never
had a losing record as a coach. Like there's a
reason why because it doesn't matter who the court. If
you think about it, Pittsburgh has not had good quarterback
play in a long ass time because Roethlisberger's final couple
of years there were not great. So they've been trying
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to figure this thing out. And now they've got Russell
Wilson and Justin Fields, and all you need Justin Fields
to do at this point is just not turn the
ball over. If you don't turn the ball over, they've
got a defense and they're gonna win games. And it
does feel like Jim Harbaugh's taken a similar approach to
where it's like, hey, no critical mistakes, We're going to
run the football. I think I saw that. It's the
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first time The Chargers have had back to back one
hundred yard rushers since twenty sixteen. Like we're talking, Melvin
Gordon was the last time this happened. So it does
appear that Harbaugh's brought a new approach, brought a new
style of play, you know, out with the old and
then back with the old when it comes to the Chargers.
And so we're off and running here and they look
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like a playoff team. Good for them.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
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to the sumo off the top. That still going on, Yeah, apparently,
but the way he does it, you don't even know.
Maybe he'll start with the sumo. All right, we have
one final segment. We're just on first sprint an hour today.
Bikel joined Jonas Natson today for Rodney Pall.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
We get out of here.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
We need spirituality. Let's welcome home on. Let's not delay.
Bring on Victor Brick with the daily high coup victed afternoon.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yayyay dies with that. I'm feeling you, fellas. I've discerned
that you were a little hesitant and embracing what's going
on with this Dodger club. Focusing on the lack of pitching.
I'm focusing on this newfound energy these last forty eight hours,
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the ozol alive in the atl.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Well, you're you're wrong, You're focusing on the wrong.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Unanswered runs, that's great. Eighteen unanswered runs from the devastation
of losing tea glasses well documented. We've touched upon it.
He's you know, he's done. There are the first two
games in Georgia. Then the Dave Roberts pep talk to Sensey,
emptying their minds.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
What did he say? What did he say in the
pep talk?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
He gave him confidence? Fred what he said? I like,
who's in the room? I like, who's in the room.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
So wait a minute, we got the talent.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
We have the talent to win the World Series, says
the injuries. Yeah, you know, there's going to be injuries
every sport. It's well documented. Who steps up, Fred J. Knox,
who steps up?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But vic I just want to go back. So you
read a report that Dave Roberts after the first two
games gave the team a pep talk. Did you read
a report that happened?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
That's correct? Fred, Where did you get it? He does
it once a year when he feels and there is
a need, there's a moment that must be met, and
Dave Roberts will talk to the team because obviously you
lose Glass and he get blown out the first two
games in Atlanta, the team that you know was on
his heels a little bit needed a little sudden sudden
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that talk they does, all right?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Did he give him that talk before Saturday's game?
Speaker 5 (30:12):
I don't believe he did. I think after Tea Glass
went down, they stepped up. And Yama Moto last night,
I mean there was more traffic on those base paths
then both the four or five and the five combined
and there's Yama Moto, man clutch guy on third, one
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out early, he gets the next two guys out, gutsy
ending by Yoshinobu and then the fabulous d That play
might have turned the season around. Hey, guys with me,
you know, they play. I'm talking about Harris on first
so Layer doubles over Edmond's head, the relay to keyk Hernandez,
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incredible wheel and deal throw to Will Smith and Michael
Harris at the plate. Are you kidding me? You know
she gets out of another jam.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
You know, I gotta be honest with you, Vick.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
It's a little disturbing that with your pristine reputation in
this town, that Fred would sort of doubt your sourcing
on the Dave Roberts pregame or postgame speech to get
the team ready. Like, that's a little bit disturbing to me.
I think you should be trusted. I don't think you
would come on here telling tales. And I think if
you've heard it from a from a trusted source, we
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trust you here.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
And I think it's a little bothersome that Fred doesn't.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Fred, it's an annual peptook and the timing, of course
was impeccable because the Dodges needed And then can I
give some loves to Niggi Rohus Niggi Rolle won that
game for the Dodger's last last night. I mean, yes,
Freddy three and three when Holo was beautiful. Yeah, if
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I runs.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, if I was, If I was you, i'd give
some love to the sewers real fast.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I think i'd get right to that.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Well, friends, they've gone nine days in Tokyo. Yeah, and
the summer world was stunned a couple of days ago.
I just want to point that out. I'll show you
the theory Mongolian. He loses to a rank and file
wrestler and he fails to bow, which is of course
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the ritual you know, when you lose about no matter
what the result, you bow to one another as respect
to the sport. I'll show you to not bow. And
they had to get him back on the dose you're
a bow. That was a couple of days ago, and
he was really angry. And he hasn't lost since. He's
come back with that insane stoic look of basically fierceness,
(32:57):
and he's he has not lost, but he's he's a
few matches behind on Osato, who is nine and oh
perfect nine in oh Onsato, twenty four year old kid.
He's been wrestling fantastic.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
This is the unranked guy.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
No, he's ranked is nine and oh, but a man
aura rocking the pink mawashee upset yesterday over Koltozakara, humongous upset,
thrill the fans. I mean he took Koltozako a straight
back out of the dojo and ura with a thrilling victory.
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He's five and four, right, I mean vig that.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I got to tell you.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
The one the matchup I'm looking forward to is the
Endo versus Takeyasu matchup, the eight verse, the fifteen.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I like that one.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Jonas well, Takayaso, the Bear, my beloved bride, Yukosakamoro, myself
one of our favorites. He's uh, he's seven and two
through nine days, so he's in it. Sort of a
lot of guys at seven and two, but everyone's chasing
Onsato with a perfect nine to no. He's just relentless
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this tournament, which of course leads us back to the source,
and it's from Sune Maru ts Sune Maru T s
u n E m A r u suone morrow and
I go something like this on this Tuesday, September seventeenth,
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the poppy pedals fall the moon must fancy what they
were and dream about it all, not the feeling you.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
It rhymes rhymes that made it good if it rhymes
us all, Ronnie, thank you for the hour, Adam, great job,
Fellingdon for Cavin As always.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Jonas will do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Let's do it another sprint. Fred
Right here we go one hour. There's sprint today.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Jonas knocks in today for Rodney on a five to
seventy LA Sports. So the Dodger's split in Atlanta, and
I think it's time to celebrate. Given the way the
first two games went. You'll take that split and get
out of town as quickly as you can.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I did happen to see your thoughts. So now you're
a little concerned. Not concerned throughout the course of the year,
but now you're a little concerned even though they got
the win yesterday. Now there's a little bit of a
problem in your mind when it goes to the postseason.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And I had absolutely no concern for the entire season,
not a shred, not one bit. But then when you
look at it and realize that you know, if they
go they need that four starter, it could be you, Jonas,
then we have a problem.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
You better hope it's not me. My kid.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I was playing a whiffleball with my son. Sure he
hit a ball that hasn't landed yet, and I was
trying to go off speed like we're talking, like I
was throwing screwball. I like brushed him off at one point.
He's three, So I think you know that's the appropriate
age to start showing him what.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
It's really like out there. Absolutely, And I.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Buzzed the tower at one point just to try and
rattle him, and he turned on a breaking ball that
I wasn't able to find. So you don't want me
anywhere near the mound for the Dodgers in the postseason.
But to your point, it does feel like there's a
reality that should set in and it feels like you're
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going to have to depend on We kind of alluded
to this last week. It does feel like you are
going to have to depend on what failed you last
year to get you through this year, which is the
top of the order at those bats, and if you
get a repeat of what happened last season, I'm with you,
I don't know what the solution is.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
When you say you're going to have to depend on
what failed you, meaning the top of the other bats,
if the pitch, if they can't find pitching, if they
have two pitchers two and a half, and then whatever
happens that top of the order, they better score twelve
runs a game.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
That's what I'm saying, Mike.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I'm not talking about you're gonna eque out three to two.
I'm saying, if you can't find anybody to pitch.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You need a three player race for NL MVP or NLCSMB,
Like you need like three guys at the top of
the order that are hitting everything. And it's a debate
at the end of the whole thing, like, hey man,
who do you give the MVP to? Like, like who
gets it? Because each guy's at like six home runs
in a series. It just feels like they're running out
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of options, and every time you turn there's more bad
news on the way. Like it wasn't that long ago
we were like, hey man, you know, if you can
get this sort of production at a ker shot, not
bad like that, he's a decent fourth starter. Now it's well,
I guess now you can't depend on him, and who knows,
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you know, beyond Yamamota through four innings.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
But there was a lot of traffic last night.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It just it just feels like every time you try
and find a glimmer of hope, there's something else that's
thrown in the way that's a problem. And I thought
your point was well said yesterday when you were like, hey, listen,
I just don't know who's going to pitch. I really
don't like it. It's a pretty simple question to ask,
but it's a problem for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
They're out of guys. They are out of guys.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
We talked about the fact that it seems, and I
don't know if you want to fact check it, but
just from a perception standpoint, they have more starting pitchers
injured than anyone. I can't even imagine, because they're all
basically hurt and they all have arm problems. And we
were talking about it and somebody hit me up on
(03:52):
X and said, well, it's because of the pitch clock.
Do you understand everybody's not getting hurt because of the
pitch clock. That's not the issue here. You can't go, well,
you know that pitchclock. Now everybody's hurt. Everybody got hurt
because of the pitch clock. It's not that Jack Harris
(04:13):
did a piece in the Times that was great. We
had Jack hun talking about trying to get more velocity,
working with guys to get more velocity, and everybody's body
doesn't react the same. It's not one size fits all.
But apparently, according to his peace, that's kind of what
they were doing.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Do it like this. If you do it like this,
you're going to have more velocity.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Great, But since everybody's body isn't constructed that way, doing
it like that might be a problem.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And I think that's what you see here.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
There is a serious problem, and now it's amplified because
we're moving to the playoffs. I can't this was the
one thing you never imagined. Never imagined they would not
have any pitching because they all got hurt. Maybe maybe
somebody would have a bad game. Okay, maybe somebody would
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have an off season, could happen, but because they're all injured,
there's no one left. Yeah, I'm a moto yesterday fore
innings good again. Just don't get hurt. Can you believe
were to that point? Get out there, give it your
best shot. Just don't get hurt.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Oh listen, we kind of and I don't think we
were joking. I mean, we threw it out there, but
it wasn't. We didn't spend a lot of time talking
about it last week. But it really becomes a bigger
deal now that you look back. What if they didn't
get the deal done for Flaarty at the deadline, because
that was down to the last minute, Like that was
literally the final seconds of the trade deadline and they
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were able to land him. What if they didn't, Like,
what are we talking about here? I like with like,
who's the option? And now you're going into the postseason.
It's like you're lying on a deadline acquisition and a
guy who did not look all that great last time
we saw him out there in Atlanta, and a guy
who just got off the I almost said, DL, I
(06:11):
don't want to you know, listen, I don't want to
let your tongue.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to offend anybody.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But now you're relying on somebody who's dealt with injuries
all year long. That's your go too going into the postseason. Like, look,
as as troubling as this is, it could be so
much worse had they not made the deal of the deadline.
And then we're able to luckily get backy on motor
And still we say all that and he hasn't gone
(06:35):
past four innings and either this starts back. So I
just I'm with you, man. I was not all that
concerned throughout the course of the year. But maybe it's
just a case of being snake bit like and for
people out there that are trying to find what's the
common denominator, and it's the pitch clock, and it's all
that man. Sometimes teams just go through bad breaks, no
(06:56):
pun intended, Like because Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakoor injured,
does that mean the Rams wide receiver room needs to
be reevaluated. No, Like, sometimes you just have bad luck.
The Dodgers have ran into nothing but bad luck when
it comes to injuries and other things outside circumstances that
have popped up this year. And now you're limping to
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the finish line hoping you can depend on an offense
that has come up short in the postseason in previous years.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Is it going to be impossible. No, it's not going
to be impossible, But they're going to be an awful
lot of luck here and guys to step up in
ways that the guy's never even imagined possible. Bobby Miller
goes tonight in Miami. Bobby Miller knows he's been struggling.
Bobby Miller really wants to have a good game, I
promise you that. But the people that want Bobby Miller
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to have a good game more than Bobby Miller does
are the Dodgers. The Dodgers need him to have a
good game. The Dodgers desperately need him to pitch well,
to try to get back in some way, shape or
form to the place he was desperately need that. I
think tonight is a big, big start for Bobby Miller.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, and yet, so you say all that and it's
the Marlins who cares.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Well, I'm just saying, like, you're not what he's been pitching.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I don't care if it's in Sino little Ly.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Okay, Well, I think that doesn't get out there.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think that's all over the plate and try to
strike somebody out.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I think that's insulting to Encino Littlely. To be honest
with you, I don't want to apologize for it to
the Encino Little League team that's listening right now. I
just want to apologize. Fred's a big fan of you know,
Danny Almonte and Chinese Taipei.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
And some of the other powerhouses from the nineties.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So I just want to apologize that you were dragged
into this and you caught astray as we're getting ready
for the postseason.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
When it comes to the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
My point is, yeah, he could go out there and
have a strong outing against the Marlins, Like you're not
seeing a Marlins team in the postseason. So it's just
I just think it's going to come down to are
they going to be able to get any sort of
run support, because if we're talking one in twenty one,
(09:04):
I don't even know if you bother showing up for
the third game in the opening series. Like, I just
I think we're the point that you're like, and yet
they're still favored to win the World Series. Like, they're
still the favorites. So you know, you ask the people
you go to DraftKings in some of these other places,
even despite all the injuries and all the concern and
(09:24):
all the stuff that we've laid out, and the fact
that you know, we've finally reached a point when you
have all of a sudden said, Okay, now I'm worried.
Now I'm concerned. Yet for some reason, there's still the
favorites to win the whole thing. So maybe that's a
testament to the offense and Otani and the year he's having.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But yeah, I'm with you. It feels like this is
going to be a problem.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Just maybe, just maybe this becomes that Cinderella story. A
team that was supposed to win the whole thing then
goes through incredible hardship, suffers multiple injuries, basicly well, despite
the fact having one of the best records in baseball,
could be on life support. But then it's this Hollywood ending. Somehow,
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some way, that pitching staff comes together. They don't with spit,
they just holds it together. Yeah, relievers become starters. Starters
pitch better than anticipated, the offense explodes, and in this magical,
magical story with a Hollywood ending, against all odds, the
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Dodgers win the World Series.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
This year.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, almost like the year that that people expected them
to fall apart because.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Of the year they've had. Is the year they get
it done.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
All the other years, the build up, the well this
is the year hashtag this team. No, no, no, no,
it was actually twenty twenty four, and this patchwork duct
tape and bubblegum rotation and an offense that wouldn't quit.
It's to deliver a World Series parade to this town
for the first time in a long time. I'm with you,
(11:06):
I hope that that's the case, but damn they need
some arms. Like it's just I mean, like when I
saw the glass now news.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I thought, no, no, no, no, no, no, there's no way.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You didn't believe that. You didn't believe I didn't believe.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It because I just thought, no, like, they've seen this
enough times to where not him too.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And then when he saw that it was him too.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And day but whenever David Vassey sends a tweet out
in the middle of the day, Uh, Dave Roberts just
said you can just tell the despair in his voice
when he sends the tweet, like, you can just tell
the And I thought, oh my, I him too, like
what are the options? And then, if I'm not mistaken,
that was the same day that Flaherty got lit up, correct?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I think was that?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah? Was that Saturday? I think that's when the news
came out. Yeah, it's I I.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Don't I don't recall a team getting dealt bad news
after bad news after bad news like they've been dealt
when it comes to injuries this year.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So how do you think Dave Roberts felt when he
just had to volunteer that?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
How do you think he felt?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I mean, well, I gotta be honest with you, I
think we've seen the last what what where did that
come from.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
No one expected to hear that.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
It's like it's like, hey, Dave, so do you anticipate
Tyler starting game one or like game two of the postseason?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Well about that, you know? And then it was like.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Wait, hold on, wait, hold on him too, like nobody's safe, man,
it's and I do wonder is there going to be
a discussion does the conversation get louder for the training
staff and and how this team is constructed and how
this team is preparing for seasons? Like I do wonder
(13:03):
what the offseason looks like for that, because it's too
late now to do anything about it. I mean, you're
in the season. You're just trying to survive. But I
wonder what the discussion is like in the off season.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well, the Dodgers have sent Andrew Friedman said, we've got
to take a look at this. I mean, we have
to do a deep dive into this and figure out
what's going on. And we'll do that when the season
is over, because right, what are they going to do now?
There's nothing for him to do.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
He can't.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I mean, here's the thing. Plaski talked about it over
a month ago, wrote it in The Times. Initially it
was absolutely positively no way. Now, well we'll see sho hey,
Otani may have to pitch every game. Now, look at
it like this. Granted he hadn't pitched in a while.
(13:49):
It's tough to put the guy into that situation. You
don't want to hurt his arm again. But given that
he's not pitched, maybe he could start every single game.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Okay, I do think that would work.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Well, look, I mean just to see what happens, Like,
you know, what, what are the odds? You know, like
we've already been dealt enough bad luck, Like maybe this
is the year and this is the time to go
ahead and run a guy out there every day, just
to see what happens. Like, let's challenge the whole can
this also go wrong? Theory that a lot of people
have been talking about when it comes to this team,
(14:23):
I just you know what I was thinking about, like
a scenario, and you tell me how this would play out?
All right, it's a game seven, yeah, World Series? Okay,
they've I mean, you ran out every starter to say
win and save game six?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
All right?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Do you start to even though they've been talking about
next year, next year and next year, do you at
least entertain the thought of throwing show Heyo Tani out
there in a game seven to win a World Series?
Is it worth your plan for him from a recovery
standpoint and a rehab standpoint to throw him out there
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in a game seven to win a World Series this year?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And what would he do? Would he close or would
he start start? Hmm, well he's throwing now. The Dodgers
obviously like to stretch their guys out. They're very analytical
and how they do things. He's not pitched at all correct.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Not not at all up to this point.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
No, okay, yes, put him out there.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I really think that they would, honest to god, I
really think that if you could get to that point
to where that's a decision, and you know, we're talking
another what month and a half before that would get
to that or you know, potentially closer to two months,
if you got to that point, I really think that
they would strongly consider the fact that Dave Roberts didn't
(15:53):
totally dismiss it. Wasn't like, oh no, absolutely not absolutely not,
Like you know, I wouldn't say the chances are not zero,
Like I think that that's something that they've at least
internally discussed like, hey, in a jam, in a tough spot,
you know, with an opportunity here, what would you think
about this? And it would not surprise me if that
was that was something that entertained and put them out.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
There, that that would be something I'm all in.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I mean, if you get to if they get to
Game seven and everything is on the line, despite the
fact that guy had in pitching like two years, just
throw him in there.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Uh Okay, I actually forgot somebody was playing for a
team in this town. I actually forgot. Geez, I'm gonna
remind you of that person next and make sure you
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ownest knacks in today for Rodney. I forgot Mike Trout
still plays for the Angels. Oh Jesus I did. I
felt like such an idiot. I read a report that
Mike Trout said he is you know, he's willing to
switch positions, and I thought, is he still playing? He
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has been hurt so much. I suddenly thought he was
Anthony Rendon And now he's amenable to switching positions. Make
him the DH. Done, and that doesn't ensure his health
because he gets hit with pitches. But make him the DH.
(17:40):
If you want to see Mike Trout, make him the DH.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You can't throw him out there at first at base
a little bit and make him learn that position. I mean,
guy's a great defender when healthy, like in his younger days.
If he could figure out center field, why couldn't he
figure out first base?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Did you not forget he was even there? Serious? And
I feel like such an idiot.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Well, I think the most insulting thing there is comparing
him to Anthony Rendon, because you know, at least Mike
Trout does want to come back and play Anthony Rendon.
And by the way, no no shame or dislike or
hate on Anthony Rendon. I think it's hilarious his approach
to this whole thing, because hey, I got paid, I
got my money. No, baseball is not the most important
(18:22):
thing to me.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
It just isn't.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I'm sorry that's going to offend some people. You know,
most important thing for me is my family, so on
and so forth. And if you say anything to him
at a game against Oakland, he's going to threaten to
assault you. But I I mean, yeah, I knew Mike
Trout was there because what else they got. I mean, like,
like what is there? So of course you got Mike
Trout there. I mean, he's not going anywhere. You cannot
(18:44):
afford to lose him if you already lost Otani, you
just can't.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
But he has missed more games than he's played in. Yeah,
and it's been that way for a while.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I mean, are you saying he peaked.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I'm not saying. I'm not saying it's a question of peaking.
I'm saying, get him play, not saying he peaked. I mean, yeah,
he was the MVP a couple of times. I don't
think it's gonna get better than that. But see, here
is the downside, right here is the downside of these
monster contracts. I know the Dodgers sign Yamamoto, I know
(19:20):
they signed Mookie. I got it. But I've always been
a proponent of not doing that. And here is the
cautionary tale. We're gonna sign him. We're gonna give him
the money. By the way, he deserves the money. I'm
not saying he doesn't, but we're gonna sign him for
all these years and now look, now, look what happened.
He's still getting paid. I'm not saying he didn't earn
(19:41):
it for his years of success when he was healthy.
But what good does this do with the team now?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Not much really zero.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I do wonder because you've you've seen you know, the
Scott Boris guys when they hit free agency, and I
think it was like the Boris for it was Bellinger
and a couple other guys, and you know, they weren't
able to get deals this year. And I just wonder,
not so much from a representation standpoint, but if situations
(20:13):
like Mike Trout and the way those contracts have aged
have soured teams like, look, gian Carlos Stanton got a
monster deal back in the day that hadn't aged all
that well. I mean, you know, he's put together decent
years at the plate, but there's a lot of times
where people were taught.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Weren't we talking this off season about.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You know, if the Yankees are thinking about parting ways
with John Carlos Stanton, what the Dodgers could be a
landing spot, Like it's hard to live up to the contract,
which is what Otani's doing and what makes that so
special because it is hard to live up to that,
and yet his is the biggest we've seen and all
he's done is put together a historic year. So yeah,
(20:53):
I mean, look, if not for Mike Trout, I don't
know what.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
The Angels would have to offer. I really don't. It
feels alphabatic.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Well, all I know is that it's another year of
the same. I mean, he didn't come back, he went
to rehab and he got hurt again. He got hurt rehabbit.
I don't know what they do. I really don't. On
the topic of the injuries, Cooper Cup could go on
(21:22):
the IR.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah, it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So you've lost both receivers. It's two games, Jonas And
if you talk to people and you guys talk NFL
all the time on your national show, Oh my god,
if you've lost two games, you're in trouble. How much
trouble could you be in you've lost two games. Well,
if you lose five games in a row at the
beginning of the season, I think you're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Well, the numbers would point to what we've seen since
the expanded play because before the expanded playoffs, it was
like twelve percent of teams that started off zero to
two in the NFL made the playoffs, and then when
they expanded the back in twenty twenty to the fourteen
team format, only two teams of twenty one possible that
(22:01):
have started zero to two have gone on to make
the playoffs. So the numbers would tell you you don't
want to be on that side of it, like you
don't want to be oh and two. But the bigger
problem is, yeah, the injuries are mounting up. I mean
Pooka Nakua, like, this was an injury that he suffered
before the season, and then he gets to the first
game and couldn't even make it out of there. And
(22:22):
then Cooper Cup had a monster first game and it
was like, Okay, now we remember how great of a
player he is. And then we get to week two
and they lose him as well. And Matt Stafford is
seemingly always banged up. It's why I said that loss
against the Lions on Sunday Night Football to open up
the year was a massive loss because they could have
(22:43):
won that game. There was an opportunity for them to
close out that game. Stafford missed that throw to Cooper
Cup on a critical third down late, which would have
given them the first down, and they would have just
ground the clock out and won that first game in Detroit.
And now you come away from that, you don't convert
that third down, you lose that game, you get eaten
alive in overtime, and then you go to Arizona and
(23:05):
they got mutilated in Arizona this week. It wasn't close,
And you got to start asking yourself, Fred, if you
look at the Rams injuries that have mounted up, you
look at the Niners injuries that are starting to mount up.
Deebo Samuel is also out. All of a sudden, the
Arizona Cardinals are sitting there with a dynamic quarterback Marvin
(23:28):
Harrison Junior, Like there's a reality in which.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
The Arizona Cardinals could win this division.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
All right, I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but it
does feel like one of those fluky years where injuries
are piling up for two of the favorites to win
the division, and yet Arizona is lurking with a really
effective Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, how did that happen?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I don't know, but he's fun, he's fine.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The Rams. I just thought, how did that happen. How
did that happen?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It's just two weeks in man, and there's there's just concern,
Like there's concern in San Francisco, there's concern with the Rams,
like it just feels like, you know, and there's no
Aaron Donald this year, Like it just feels like this
team's headed in the wrong direction fast.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And I know, look, I know it's just two games.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
There's a long season ahead, but man, the numbers do
not look good on the side of the Rams, like
it feels like a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
As for the Charger, they're two and oh.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
They're not overly exciting and watching them, you're not overly inspired,
but you are watching the team that's two and oh
and running the ball and playing some Jim Harball football.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
They stayed back east this week because they have Pittsburgh.
That'll be an interesting matchup on Sunday. Yeah, but Justin
Herbert's X rays came back negative. He has a right
lower leg injury. And when I saw that, I thought,
what is this the NHL? Because in hockey, no matter what,
they never tell you who's right, what you really got.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
They've got a lower body injury.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
That is my favorite thing about hockey is at the
end of the year, they go, yeah, it seems like
he's laboring, like he's dealing with something. And then after
a team gets eliminated, you find out the next day, Oh, yeah,
so and so broke his kneecap and tore six ligaments
in his right knee. He should be back in six
to eight months. Wait what like that's and nobody says anything.
(25:18):
They just keep it a secret. That's Jim Harbaugh, baby, listen.
He does it differently than everybody else. Everybody's all about
the show in this town. They're all about the flash,
all about the sizzle and the bright lights. And Jim
Harbo's like, no, we're gonna go offensive line with our
first pick. We're gonna get rid of all of our
top receivers, and we are going to run the ball
down your throat. That's what we're gonna do with a
two hundred plus million dollar quarterback. Good for him, Good
(25:42):
for the Bolts. Hey, you know what I always say, Fred,
bolt up or bolt down.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I didn't realize you always said that.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yep, yeah, now you do.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Now I do.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
The thing about what Harball is doing and the Chargers,
they are really given the style of play, and long
term it could be the correct style. Obviously, Harball's went
everywhere with it. They're under the radar, they're really under
the rates. Yeah, and I didn't expect Pittsburgh to be
chewing out at this point, did you?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
No? But I'm so sick of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It like that right there goes to show you culture
is everything, Like there's a reason why Mike Tomlins never
had a losing record as a coach. Like there's a
reason why because it doesn't matter who the court. If
you think about it, Pittsburgh has not had good quarterback
play in a long ass time because Roethlisberger's final couple
of years there were not great. So they've been trying
(26:40):
to figure this thing out. And now they've got Russell
Wilson and Justin Fields, and all you need Justin Fields
to do at this point is just not turn the
ball over. If you don't turn the ball over, they've
got a defense and they're gonna win games. And it
does feel like Jim Harbaugh's taken a similar approach to
where it's like, hey, no critical mistakes, We're going to
run the football. I think I saw that. It's the
(27:02):
first time The Chargers have had back to back one
hundred yard rushers since twenty sixteen. Like we're talking, Melvin
Gordon was the last time this happened. So it does
appear that Harbaugh's brought a new approach, brought a new
style of play, you know, out with the old and
then back with the old when it comes to the Chargers.
And so we're off and running here and they look
(27:24):
like a playoff team. Good for them.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
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(27:47):
to the sumo off the top. That still going on, Yeah, apparently,
but the way he does it, you don't even know.
Maybe he'll start with the sumo. All right, we have
one final segment. We're just on first sprint an hour today.
Bikel joined Jonas Natson today for Rodney Pall.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
We get out of here.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
We need spirituality. Let's welcome home on. Let's not delay.
Bring on Victor Brick with the daily high coup victed afternoon.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yayyay dies with that. I'm feeling you, fellas. I've discerned
that you were a little hesitant and embracing what's going
on with this Dodger club. Focusing on the lack of pitching.
I'm focusing on this newfound energy these last forty eight hours,
(28:40):
the ozol alive in the atl.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Well, you're you're wrong, You're focusing on the wrong.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Unanswered runs, that's great. Eighteen unanswered runs from the devastation
of losing tea glasses well documented. We've touched upon it.
He's you know, he's done. There are the first two
games in Georgia. Then the Dave Roberts pep talk to Sensey,
emptying their minds.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
What did he say? What did he say in the
pep talk?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
He gave him confidence? Fred what he said? I like,
who's in the room? I like, who's in the room.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
So wait a minute, we got the talent.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
We have the talent to win the World Series, says
the injuries. Yeah, you know, there's going to be injuries
every sport. It's well documented. Who steps up, Fred J. Knox,
who steps up?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But vic I just want to go back. So you
read a report that Dave Roberts after the first two
games gave the team a pep talk. Did you read
a report that happened?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
That's correct? Fred, Where did you get it? He does
it once a year when he feels and there is
a need, there's a moment that must be met, and
Dave Roberts will talk to the team because obviously you
lose Glass and he get blown out the first two
games in Atlanta, the team that you know was on
his heels a little bit needed a little sudden sudden
(30:07):
that talk they does, all right?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Did he give him that talk before Saturday's game?
Speaker 5 (30:12):
I don't believe he did. I think after Tea Glass
went down, they stepped up. And Yama Moto last night,
I mean there was more traffic on those base paths
then both the four or five and the five combined
and there's Yama Moto, man clutch guy on third, one
(30:34):
out early, he gets the next two guys out, gutsy
ending by Yoshinobu and then the fabulous d That play
might have turned the season around. Hey, guys with me,
you know, they play. I'm talking about Harris on first
so Layer doubles over Edmond's head, the relay to keyk Hernandez,
(30:56):
incredible wheel and deal throw to Will Smith and Michael
Harris at the plate. Are you kidding me? You know
she gets out of another jam.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
You know, I gotta be honest with you, Vick.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
It's a little disturbing that with your pristine reputation in
this town, that Fred would sort of doubt your sourcing
on the Dave Roberts pregame or postgame speech to get
the team ready. Like, that's a little bit disturbing to me.
I think you should be trusted. I don't think you
would come on here telling tales. And I think if
you've heard it from a from a trusted source, we
(31:31):
trust you here.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
And I think it's a little bothersome that Fred doesn't.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Fred, it's an annual peptook and the timing, of course
was impeccable because the Dodges needed And then can I
give some loves to Niggi Rohus Niggi Rolle won that
game for the Dodger's last last night. I mean, yes,
Freddy three and three when Holo was beautiful. Yeah, if
(31:58):
I runs.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, if I was, If I was you, i'd give
some love to the sewers real fast.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I think i'd get right to that.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Well, friends, they've gone nine days in Tokyo. Yeah, and
the summer world was stunned a couple of days ago.
I just want to point that out. I'll show you
the theory Mongolian. He loses to a rank and file
wrestler and he fails to bow, which is of course
(32:33):
the ritual you know, when you lose about no matter
what the result, you bow to one another as respect
to the sport. I'll show you to not bow. And
they had to get him back on the dose you're
a bow. That was a couple of days ago, and
he was really angry. And he hasn't lost since. He's
come back with that insane stoic look of basically fierceness,
(32:57):
and he's he has not lost, but he's he's a
few matches behind on Osato, who is nine and oh
perfect nine in oh Onsato, twenty four year old kid.
He's been wrestling fantastic.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
This is the unranked guy.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
No, he's ranked is nine and oh, but a man
aura rocking the pink mawashee upset yesterday over Koltozakara, humongous upset,
thrill the fans. I mean he took Koltozako a straight
back out of the dojo and ura with a thrilling victory.
(33:38):
He's five and four, right, I mean vig that.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I got to tell you.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
The one the matchup I'm looking forward to is the
Endo versus Takeyasu matchup, the eight verse, the fifteen.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I like that one.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Jonas well, Takayaso, the Bear, my beloved bride, Yukosakamoro, myself
one of our favorites. He's uh, he's seven and two
through nine days, so he's in it. Sort of a
lot of guys at seven and two, but everyone's chasing
Onsato with a perfect nine to no. He's just relentless
(34:15):
this tournament, which of course leads us back to the source,
and it's from Sune Maru ts Sune Maru T s
u n E m A r u suone morrow and
I go something like this on this Tuesday, September seventeenth,
(34:43):
the poppy pedals fall the moon must fancy what they
were and dream about it all, not the feeling you.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
It rhymes rhymes that made it good if it rhymes
us all, Ronnie, thank you for the hour, Adam, great job,
Fellingdon for Cavin As always.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Jonas will do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Let's do it another sprint. Fred
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