September 17, 2025 • 32 mins
Dan Woike joins the show to talk about his experience covering Luka Doncic at the Eurobasket tournament. One MLB fired their entire scouting staff!? A doctor was fired for partking in some extracurricular activities while he was on break during a surgical procedure.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on five
seventy LA Sports hour two of the program Today. Later
this hour, we'll talk about a team that really doesn't
want to compete anymore, the exact wrong way to operate
a team basically has.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Thrown in the towel as a franchise. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Also later this hour the story of the doctor that
needed to take a break for relaxation during surgery. What
and how do you think this guy relaxed during surgery?
That is coming up later on in the hour as well.
So Rodney, we've been talking about the Clippers and of
course the Lakers getting ready for training camp. Luca played
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in euro euro Basketball, got knocked out. But Dan Wiki
from the Athletic World Traveler, he is somehow convinced the
folks at the New York Times I need to be there.
I need to go to Europe. Yes, I need to
see it firsthand. I'm not taking anybody else's word for it.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
He's by coastal New York Times, LA Times, all of them. Huh,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
So he went to Europe and now he joins us
on the show. So Dan, good.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Afternoon, guys. I would say hello and Polish, but I
didn't learn a thing while I was over there.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, yeah, because you were watching basketball and drinking.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Uh yeah, I mean that's that's actually pretty accurate. It
was a remarkable trip. It's such a fun tournament, and
you know, I think the reasons why I went are
pretty simple. Uh, this is really important to Lukadacic, and
if you're going to cover and try to understand Lukadaji,
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it's important to try and cover and understand, but understand
the things that matter most of him. And that that
was my goal when I went, and I you know,
I think I understand and get him a little better.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So what did you learn? Yeah? What did you and
why is it so important for him?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I mean I think, you know, look, this is like
a person who's like crazy competitive, right and I knew
that before, but you could see it there where you know,
their their team, this is probably one of the worst
Slovenian teams that he's ever played on. And I think
seeing like where they were in game one of the
(02:26):
tournament versus like where they were the last game that
I saw them play, I didn't follow them to lobby.
I stayed with them through the group phase. Uh, you know,
like you could see him make other players better and
that happened, right. You could see him, you know, grow
as a leader, which was something you know, he and
(02:47):
I talked about spoiler alert that stories coming. Uh, you
could see you could see that type of stuff. And
then I think like for me too, the other thing
was like just kind of like wanting to see him
like you know, take the take the new car out
of the garage and test it out, you know, and
see like how he was moving and stuff like that.
(03:07):
And uh, but why why is the matter of I
would say, why is the matter? From the atmosphere is awesome.
It's awesome. It's it's like a soccer match atmosphere, drums, screaming, booing,
cheering from the opening tip to you know, to to
the end of the game. And it's just you know,
it's like that kind of like you know, heart pumping
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competition that like you get when sports is that it
is most exciting.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And And so you said take the new shiny car
out of the garage. Yeah, uh, the new body. Everything
impressive is movement, all of those things that that come
with I guess getting in really good shape could you
see that.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, I think you know, from watching him played for
it looks it's tough, right because there's a big difference.
There is a difference between you know, getting around the
Oloa City Thunder and the Polish national teams, Like there
is a difference. But I think like watching him kind
of you know, like zip around and through double teams
(04:16):
or attempted double teams, like being the coverage. That's not
something we saw a lot of with the Lakers, but
you know saw a lot of it here. I think
that was like that was a really big thing, like
watching him just kind of like you know, as defenses
like were geared really to stop him and on this
team like they were geared incredibly to stop him. You know,
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watching him kind of like use quickness to get into
the paint. And I would say, you know, anybody who
watched Loucal last year, like you wouldn't use the words quickness.
That offense and like that seems to be back, like
that jolt, that burst and like you know you saw
on defense too, a lot of steals. I think he
was tied for second or tip first. I'm sorry with
the most steals per game. There know, not a perfect
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defender by any stretch, still has a lot of work
to do on that end and will never probably be
you know, he's not He's not Bruce Brown, but I
think like you know, or Bruce Bowen, I'm sorry, or
Bruce Brown for that matter, but I think like he
was like a guy that was you know, he was engaged.
He was active in getting stops and stuff like that,
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and it was you know, if you're a Lakers, if
you're a Lakers fan, you should be encouraged. You know.
I think like watching him there where, there's like it's
a good reminder that, oh yeah, like for all the
fretting and stuff like that about everything else that happened
this offseason, Like they got a guy who was the
best player at euro Basket. They got him on a
good deal, and he's in great shape and he looks
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like he's ready to compete his ass off. Sorry did
I whoops? I say that's a good Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Did it look like he lost any strength?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Does he still have the ability to move guys down?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah? No, no, yeah, I mean he he was still
like you know, getting into the paint, getting to his spots,
using like his shoulder to bomp and stuff like that,
all that stuff still was there. You know. I think
like that's obviously a big part of his game too.
Like he's massive, Like he's a big dude, and even
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though he's like turned down, he's still like he's a
big guy still, right, And I think he still will
maintain those physical advantages in most matchups. It's just like
like I said, like there's just a little more. There's
just like a little more zip. You know, he's a
little quicker out of the gates. He's a little uh,
he's just there's just more there. Yeah. Zip is like
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the probably the right word for it. I think it
was like it's kind of like his acceleration was what
I noticed most. And what's what's wild, guys, is like
I mean he shot the ball okay there from three,
but it like it showed up always, Like he was
awesome at the free throw line, awesome, right, and like
to me, like fatigue is a place where like sometimes
you miss free throws. He you know, he only he
(07:00):
felt like way less tired, even though that tournament is
a bear. You're playing forty minute games. He's playing a
ton of minutes and like you're playing four and five
crazy high like playoff type intensity. You know, he held
up really well physically.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
What what else impressed you over over there?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I mean also you know other players, anybody else impress
you while you're watching the tournament over there?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, I mean I thought Denny Avdia for Israel was
a guy that I've long felt like he's been like
a guy that you know a team, whether it's the Lakers,
the Clippers, any of these teams that are in contention.
Like it's like if you could get Denny Avdia, like,
go get Denny Avdia, and he looked awesome. He looked
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great watching you know, you know a player you'll hear
a lot about this season, as Larry Arkinen in Finland.
He was not in Poland where I was watching games,
but like watching other games and stuff like that at
maybe a Polish bar er two while I was there,
but like watching Laurie markinin Uh, they have an eighteen
year old on their team too, will be in the
(08:10):
draft next year or I'm sorry, I think it's next year.
Like I forget his name. His nickname is Slim Jesus
though awesome nickname. That dude was was really really impressive.
And then like you look, you got Giannis and Dennis Shrewder.
You know, I like, like international Dennis Shrewder is a
(08:30):
like that guy. You could tell why a coach like
Darvin Ham like wanted to go into the trenches with
Dennis Shruder, Like that guy can fight, and you know,
I think he obviously was. You know, Germany won the tournament.
They won the tournament. He's the best player on that team,
and that team has a lot of NBA players. He's
the team's on question leader. It's just, you know, something
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about it for these guys and they put on that
national jersey, you know, particularly like you know, if you're
in a country like Slovenia where you like you're the
one NBA guy, you're the show. It just like you
want to do this for your friends. These are guys
they've they've competed with for a very long time, you know,
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and it's just it just seems like it takes guys
to a slightly different level.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Dan, can you really tell the difference when you go
to those games and just your standard NBA game in December?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah? Absolutely, I mean, like I think the the stakes right,
you feel like, yes, absolutely, it's much closer to a
playoff game than it is to a to a like
a regular season game. I would say, like and you know,
I wasn't even at the knockout stages and stuff like that.
(09:45):
It's just like, you know, part of it is a
smaller arena and stuff like that. But like you know,
when any when anybody played like Poland, when we were there,
it felt like the biggest game in the world when
you're in the arena, like you know, Rob Plinka, Genie
busk As, they were all there, Linda Rambis were there
for the first game when Slovenia played Poland, and incredible atmosphere,
(10:08):
incredible atmosphere, and you know, at one point I texted
Ron Plink about it and he's just like this is unreal.
You know, it's it's just it's special. And and guys,
I think you know, from the Lakers standpoint too, wh's
kind of interesting for for the brand and stuff like that,
is that like, you know, this is somebody who you
(10:29):
know is like truly like a global like this is
another like global presence, and this organization has had a
bunch of them, and like there were at the at
the merch stand inside the arena right like you could
buy a Poland national jersey or you could buy a
Luca Docha Slovenian jersey. Like that was it. The Poland
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jersey was blank. There was no other individual player who
had their stuff on it except for Luca, you know,
and that was like he's that level of star. A
massive billboard across the way, uh, you know for a
video game partnership he's doing like just yeah, I mean
he's he's one of the he's one of the biggest
(11:14):
basketball stars in the world. And I think like if
he plays well this year and he plays well for
the Lakers, I don't think it's like out of bounds
to think like maybe he can be like messy to
some degree, you know, like like he has that sort
of like on court like magnetism, and you know when
you consider when you add that to a team that
(11:34):
already has like somebody who's like other worldly famous like
Lebron James. Like, if you're somebody who doesn't want to
hear about the Lakers, like it's going to be a
long year because like like put those two guys on
the team and if they're playing well, like the mean
a lot of people interested.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, to say the least Okay, so you mentioned
the Lakers. Let's talk about the Lakers and what they're
may or may not do before U before training camp, Begans,
any word on anything Dan in terms of the Lakers,
are we looking at as constructed let's move forward.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I think it's as constructed, but I would say the
doors are more open now than they were. You know,
before Luca signed his extension right like earlier this summer,
I had reported that the Lakers were not interested in
Andrew Wiggins. At the time, that was true. They were
(12:29):
not interested in Andrew Wiggins. He has a pretty hefty
player option next season that would cut into the Lakers flexibility.
I think there was some concern about that. There was also, guys,
to be honest, some concern about helping Miami clear up
cat space because one of the teams that was sort
of always kind of rumored in the in the in
(12:50):
the shadows to want to chase Lukaatchi should he be available,
is the Miami Heat. That's where Goran Dragas played. Gorn
Dragitch also Slovenian. You know, that was the like, I
think kind of a secondary reason as to like, like
the Lakers not wanting to maybe do business, the heat
on this type of stuff. Luca signs the extension, he
(13:11):
gets an amazing shape, he goes out and and you know,
there's the best player at euro Basket. I think there's
some recalibration going on as to like maybe you know,
like okay, let's talk specific about Andrew Riggins, Like okay,
like you know, maybe we would be willing to take
on that that that contract. I think the idea though
(13:33):
that the Lakers would trade a first round pick to
get Andrew Higgins, particularly like the one first round pick
that they have, I don't think that's a price they'll
be willing to meet. So, you know, if that's the
hold up for Miami right now, like there's not going
to be a deal, But if Miami were to be
interested in something that involves some expiring contracts maybe Dalton
(13:53):
connect maybe to Swop or something like that, there could
be a deal there. I just you know, I think
there's some questions like the Lakers would have to ask,
like one they would ask themselves, like you know, if
it's an either or situation with Ruey Hatchmurro or Andrew Wigins,
does putting assets in for Andrew Wagins? Is he that
much better than Ruey Hatchmara. That would be a question
(14:15):
the Lakers would ask. I think, like, you know, so
then if it's gonna be Rui and Andrew Wiggins, the
laxt question is do we have enough to get them,
you know, with without without dipping into stuff that we
might have earmarked for other things down the road. And
that's gonna be a dance when the Lakers play this
year with Andrew Wiggins, It's gonna be a dance they
play at the trade deadline if they're competitive, you know,
like they don't have unlimited resources. It sounds like a
(14:37):
Brokerman by the Lakers, but like it's sort of like,
you know, they've got one draft pick they can trade,
you know, this year, and you know, if they don't
trade it, they'll have three they can use next summer,
and like that will be a constant part of their culchulusts.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
All right, Dan, thank you for coming on, thank you
for the info, and welcome home.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
As I'm doing this, guys, I'm staring at a massive
hornets nest in my backyard. Whoa any advice?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Get a basketball bat and hit it it so I
won't be on the short work guys.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
All right, I'll see later. I'm gonna die like girl. Yeah,
this is gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
All right.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I think I'm gonna go back to Poland. I think
I'm gonna go back to Poland. Guys, there are no hornets.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
There, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
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How do you know when somebody's just thrown in the towel?
If you own a franchise, maybe we'll have an example next.
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Speaker 2 (16:17):
Come on.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Let's keep it moving on a hump day. Roddy Pete,
fred Rogan beautiful, it's hot today, early cloud cover coming down.
But man, it still feels like some are a little
bit Freddy.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, is it gonna rain? I don't know clouds are
coming in. I don't know if it's gonna rain or nine.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I heard there's a possibility of rain and if a
range is gonna rain hard, So forewarned is forearmed? All right,
here's the deal. Sometimes optics shape someone's opinion. Now, a
lot of teams in Major League Baseball are eliminating their
pro scouting department, or at the very least, what they're
(16:58):
doing is cutting back on their trap. They believe that
they can watch tape and do their work effectively. Now,
the Minnesota Twins have been a dumpster fire as an organization.
The family that owned the team tried to sell it
that fell through, so then they brought into limited partners
to try to pay down the debt. In the meantime,
(17:18):
the Twins are not investing heavily now because they're going
to start cutting costs. They moved a number of players
at the trade deadline.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Ten of them.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
As a matter of fact, and now comes forward that
they were eliminating their four person pro scouting department. So
let's start with that they only had four in the department. Anyway,
I don't know what the Dodgers do, but I assure
you if Minnesota had four, of the Dodgers have a
lot more. So they're getting rid of those four people,
people that I'm around a long time, one in his
(17:47):
thirty ninth season, one in his fifteenth season.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
They're eliminating those guys.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
And what they're going to do is trade it over
to the baseball department to look at tape and evaluate
players and do scouting that Now, on the surface, teams
make changes. The Cubs have done something like this, and
on the surface, you go, well, okay, in the new world,
maybe it's a more effective way to do business. But
if you're the Minnesota Twins and you're struggling and you're
(18:16):
mortgaging guys off at the trade deadline, it really is
a really bad look, you know what I mean, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's a horrible look. It's a horrible look when you
look up and you basically as a fan base, and
you see the Dodgers, you see the Phillies, you see
the Mets, you know, doing Yankees, doing whatever it takes,
Padres doing whatever it takes to win. And in a
(18:43):
world that yes, analytics are there, but the good teams
are hiring more people and putting more people on staff,
whether it be the training staff, whether it be the
again like you mentioned, the scouting staff, the advanced scouting staff,
the front office. They're putting more people in place, not
(19:04):
taking them away. And when you see this happen, you
really start to question what's the commitment to winning a
title or a championship, especially in the near future. I mean,
I mean they're firing the guys that have been there
for thirty nine years or thirty five years or whatever
it is. That doesn't sound like a franchise that is
(19:26):
looking to the future to say we're all in, We're
going to go for it. See, I get change in
business that happens all the time. Our business has changed,
and if you're listening to business you have worked in
or currently worked in, has changed. It just does over years.
It evolves. But the problem is.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
When you're not good, when you're not one of the
best teams, and you start this, it's a really bad
message to your fans. That's what it is. It's really
bad messaging. It's bad optically. It's for people, and you know,
you feel for an but it loses their job. It's
four people in the scouting department. It's not like they
(20:03):
fired everybody that works there. But then you start to
think as a fan, Yeah, but isn't scouting important because
it's how we build our team. On the other hand,
the Baseball Operations department says, well, we look at tape.
We can make those decisions ourselves. Who's right, who's wrong.
Time will tell. But what you do know is that
if you're the twins, it's a bad look. It's a
(20:26):
bad look. And maybe they'll be right and maybe it
won't matter, and maybe those four that lost their job,
I had an illustrious career with a club and it's time.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
To move on. But optically, it's just a really bad look. Yeah,
it's a bad look. I don't you know.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I know we're moving into the you know, the AI world,
technology world, all of those things, but there's still a
human interaction that is necessary. And I don't care what
sport it is that's necessary. These scouts, they're the ones
out there grinding it on the road, meeting people meeting
these kids, meeting high school kids or college kids, or
(21:05):
traveling overseas to meet people. And a lot of times
it's not just about talent for it. A lot of
times it's just I want to see what kind of
kid this is. I want to meet him, shake his hand,
see what it's all about, talk to his coaches, talk
to I mean, those things go into scouting. It sometimes
is a thankless job. It's like college when in college,
(21:28):
well college has changed too, but it's in college being
the recruiter, the coaches that had to go out and
recruit the high school kids and figure out, Okay, the
kid's got a lot of talent, but he's not a
kid we want on our team.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I don't like his attitude.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
He's you know, he's a certain way, he's entitled. Do
we really want him? You can't find that out just
by watching tape. You can watch tape and go, oh,
the kid can hit, Oh, the kid can field. Oh,
the kid throws ninety eight. But does he fit your organization?
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You have to have a conversation with that kid to
figure that out.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Two o'clock.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Dylan Hernandez at the Times joined us and up next
during a long surgery.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I didn't really know this.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Doctors actually take breaks. So if you're in there for
six hours, maybe the guy took a forty minute break.
What do they do during the breaks? That's next?
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Speaker 3 (23:03):
Oh yes, now right back on a beautiful Wednesday hump day. Now, Freddy,
you left me with something that I couldn't wait to
get back to hear the story because it troubled me
that you said that doctors, certain doctors or some doctors
do certain things during surgery. And I've had a lot
of surgeries over my lifetime. It's troubling, Freddy, So please
(23:29):
please elaborate on what you were talking about.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Now, let me give you this story. First, I didn't
realize this. I've had a few surgeries. But if you're
in there for a while, sometimes the doctor takes something
accrore me. Apparently something called a comfort break. You know,
there's someone in there monitoring the patient. Obviously he's not
going to walk away in the middle of open heart surgery,
(23:53):
but it'll take a take a minute or two collect
his thoughts, maybe just kind of you know, get focused again.
Just step away, take a comfort break.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Ya.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
I looked into this deeper thread. Apparently they will step
away at times, depending on how long the surgery is
and what type of surgery it is, they will go
grab a snack, go to the bathroom. And I don't
want to call him a substitute surgeon, but that's essentially
what they are. Will step in and contain this procedure
while they step out.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean, I get it that certain procedures.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
You know, when you go into it and you look
at you know, the operating room and the table, there's
you know, there's always multiple people in there, sometimes four,
sometimes eight, ten people may be in the room. You
got the you know, get in your anesthesia and you
got nurses in there, and someone's gonna come in and
stitch you up and all those things. And there might
be different levels of that particular procedure that the specialists
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or the doctor in charge. Say it's a guy like
Neil right, Tommy Johns, or he's doing a knee that
he gets somebody is prepping that and then he goes
in and you know, does the bulk of the work,
but he's got to wait another forty five minutes before
he can continue on. Somebody else has to do something
else around that particular area, so it goes and takes
(25:07):
a break.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I get that. I guess, all.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Right, So here's what we're talking about. That's what they do.
That would kind of what some of the doctors do.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Yeah, if they're in a middle procedure and there's something
that they don't necessarily have to be in there for,
they will step out and they can take a break,
go grab a snack, whatever it is, and they'll come
back and finish up. Or if they really just gotta
go for some particular reason, they'll have other people try
to stand in and do what they can or at
least keep the patient safe while they step away for
a few minutes and then come back.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And there's all there's monitors obviously, and you're in the
operating room, there's monitors are gonna monitor everything, your blood pressure,
your heart everything, that's going on. Nurses are right there,
so they're gonna monitor everything. My question is when they
step away, what do they step in away to do? Right,
I don't know, maybe go to the bathroom, you know,
just get some air. Or in the case of a
surgery during twenty twenty three, a doctor named doctor so
(25:57):
Hail and Jump who will was forty four years old,
in the middle of surgery and said that, you know what,
I need a break?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Can you step in? Sure? No problem? And he did.
He went and he took a break. And actually I.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Didn't know they do this. He wandered into another operating room. Now,
the reason we know he was in another operating room
there was no surgery going on in that operating room
was empty. But the reason we know he went in
there is because someone happened to walk by, look in
and see him there. Well, maybe he was meditating, maybe
(26:34):
he was just you know, focusing. Well I think he
was doing something else because as the person walked by
and looked into the operating room, he did see this
individual did see the doctor pulling up his scrubs and
tying them, and saw a nurse with her underpants. Her
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pants were pulled down and her underpants, and the doctor
admitted what he had done during the procedure for comfort
was stepped away and had sex with a nurse in
another operating room. Now, by the way, they are not married.
The married doctor had sex with the other nurse in
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the operating room during surgery he was performing. He explained
that obviously he was quite stressed, and he blamed his
actions on the fact that he and his family had
just gone through the premature birth of his daughter and
he was overwhelmed. He was so overwhelmed and so stressed
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that while operating he went into the other room and
had sex with another nurse and was caught doing it. Yes,
he lost his job, Rodney, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Oh, oh, doc, come on, doc, Eh, this is this
When did this happened?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Twenty thirty years ago? Twenty twenty three?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Okay, yeah, listen, it's twenty twenty three. It's not too
far removed from twenty twenty five. So you absolutely know
that there are cameras everywhere. There are people watching everywhere,
especially in a hospital, just in case a patient may
wander somewhere, there are cameras, There are people security, whoever
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it may be. He's got monitors everywhere watching whatever may happen,
people walking by, cleaning crew, checking the empty rooms to
make sure it's prep for the next patient, anywhere anywhere.
You mean to tell me that they couldn't wait. They
were so into each other that they had to do
it in the middle of his surgery.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Nurse, retractor, Please thank you. Nurse.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yes, nurse, we got about forty five minute. I just uh,
I just secured that suiture right there, and uh, you
know it's gonna be another forty five minutes before that.
We can uh, we can get back in and do
the uh do the left knee.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Okay, let's go. Oh, by the way, we have an
update me into R eight. No, we have an update Rodney.
And I don't know if this is something he should
be proud of. He was only gone for eight minutes.
Oh and perhaps that's why he was fired, because if
you're going to step away for that eight minutes, there's
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a cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
But maybe maybe that's a skill set that he had
and they had together.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
We only need eight minutes. It's like you know.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
NASCAR or Formula one racing, when they go into the pit,
you know, get in and get out.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I gotta get in and get out, Fred. Yeah, maybe
that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yes, he got it back to the r Maybe that
is a skill rather than looking at it as a
you know, faulty wiring or you know, lack of performance.
Maybe it's a skill set that he was able to
master because he is a surgeon. That didn't take me
very long.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Well, the good news for him, he has a lot
of time to master that skill set now because he's
not a surgeon anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Although so somebody looked in. Let me get this right
real quick. Somebody looked in.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, and saw them having sex and then reported it
to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
There was another nurse that looked in, saw him pulling
up his scrubs and saw the other nurse had her
pants down and her underpants. So she said, you know,
I'm not sure this is you know, what we should
be doing. And she told somebody and then they investigated,
and yes, they had gone into another operating room and
have sex during the proceed.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Eight minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Do you think if they had sex in another room
and it wasn't during the procedure that they would have
been fired, like if they just do it was on
his rounds. She was on her rounds or she was
on break and he was just doing some routine rounds,
not in not in surgery.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Do you think he would have been fired? I think
that's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
You don't think it's untore that two co workers who
are not married or having sex during company time. No, Yeah,
regardless of the circumstances. I think he's probably getting it
regardless for it.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Well, you know, you might be a little harder than
I am.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I don't know what they would do. They might warn him,
It depends. Yeah, you would warn him, you guys, knock
it off. Hey, doc, hey, we know what you've been
doing in R eight, all right, just don't do it
during surgery.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
You think one of a host in this building and
a producer in this building are called doing what they're
doing in a production studio. They're gonna get a slap
on the wrist and say, hey, don't.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Do that anymore. Hasn't that happened in this building.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
I don't know that for it.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I know something else happened in that building. I think
it happened in the in the parking structure or something
like that. Don't Rodney, don't just inches away again. One
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more word, and that would have been that would have
been it for us again. Don't tell that story, Okay
when we come back, doll And Hernatas of the Times
joins us
And we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on five
seventy LA Sports hour two of the program Today. Later
this hour, we'll talk about a team that really doesn't
want to compete anymore, the exact wrong way to operate
a team basically has.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Thrown in the towel as a franchise. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Also later this hour the story of the doctor that
needed to take a break for relaxation during surgery. What
and how do you think this guy relaxed during surgery?
That is coming up later on in the hour as well.
So Rodney, we've been talking about the Clippers and of
course the Lakers getting ready for training camp. Luca played
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in euro euro Basketball, got knocked out. But Dan Wiki
from the Athletic World Traveler, he is somehow convinced the
folks at the New York Times I need to be there.
I need to go to Europe. Yes, I need to
see it firsthand. I'm not taking anybody else's word for it.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
He's by coastal New York Times, LA Times, all of them. Huh,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
So he went to Europe and now he joins us
on the show. So Dan, good.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Afternoon, guys. I would say hello and Polish, but I
didn't learn a thing while I was over there.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, yeah, because you were watching basketball and drinking.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Uh yeah, I mean that's that's actually pretty accurate. It
was a remarkable trip. It's such a fun tournament, and
you know, I think the reasons why I went are
pretty simple. Uh, this is really important to Lukadacic, and
if you're going to cover and try to understand Lukadaji,
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it's important to try and cover and understand, but understand
the things that matter most of him. And that that
was my goal when I went, and I you know,
I think I understand and get him a little better.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So what did you learn? Yeah? What did you and
why is it so important for him?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I mean I think, you know, look, this is like
a person who's like crazy competitive, right and I knew
that before, but you could see it there where you know,
their their team, this is probably one of the worst
Slovenian teams that he's ever played on. And I think
seeing like where they were in game one of the
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tournament versus like where they were the last game that
I saw them play, I didn't follow them to lobby.
I stayed with them through the group phase. Uh, you know,
like you could see him make other players better and
that happened, right. You could see him, you know, grow
as a leader, which was something you know, he and
(02:47):
I talked about spoiler alert that stories coming. Uh, you
could see you could see that type of stuff. And
then I think like for me too, the other thing
was like just kind of like wanting to see him
like you know, take the take the new car out
of the garage and test it out, you know, and
see like how he was moving and stuff like that.
(03:07):
And uh, but why why is the matter of I
would say, why is the matter? From the atmosphere is awesome.
It's awesome. It's it's like a soccer match atmosphere, drums, screaming, booing,
cheering from the opening tip to you know, to to
the end of the game. And it's just you know,
it's like that kind of like you know, heart pumping
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competition that like you get when sports is that it
is most exciting.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And And so you said take the new shiny car
out of the garage. Yeah, uh, the new body. Everything
impressive is movement, all of those things that that come
with I guess getting in really good shape could you
see that.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, I think you know, from watching him played for
it looks it's tough, right because there's a big difference.
There is a difference between you know, getting around the
Oloa City Thunder and the Polish national teams, Like there
is a difference. But I think like watching him kind
of you know, like zip around and through double teams
(04:16):
or attempted double teams, like being the coverage. That's not
something we saw a lot of with the Lakers, but
you know saw a lot of it here. I think
that was like that was a really big thing, like
watching him just kind of like you know, as defenses
like were geared really to stop him and on this
team like they were geared incredibly to stop him. You know,
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watching him kind of like use quickness to get into
the paint. And I would say, you know, anybody who
watched Loucal last year, like you wouldn't use the words quickness.
That offense and like that seems to be back, like
that jolt, that burst and like you know you saw
on defense too, a lot of steals. I think he
was tied for second or tip first. I'm sorry with
the most steals per game. There know, not a perfect
(05:01):
defender by any stretch, still has a lot of work
to do on that end and will never probably be
you know, he's not He's not Bruce Brown, but I
think like you know, or Bruce Bowen, I'm sorry, or
Bruce Brown for that matter, but I think like he
was like a guy that was you know, he was engaged.
He was active in getting stops and stuff like that,
(05:23):
and it was you know, if you're a Lakers, if
you're a Lakers fan, you should be encouraged. You know.
I think like watching him there where, there's like it's
a good reminder that, oh yeah, like for all the
fretting and stuff like that about everything else that happened
this offseason, Like they got a guy who was the
best player at euro Basket. They got him on a
good deal, and he's in great shape and he looks
(05:43):
like he's ready to compete his ass off. Sorry did
I whoops? I say that's a good Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Did it look like he lost any strength?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Does he still have the ability to move guys down?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah? No, no, yeah, I mean he he was still
like you know, getting into the paint, getting to his spots,
using like his shoulder to bomp and stuff like that,
all that stuff still was there. You know. I think
like that's obviously a big part of his game too.
Like he's massive, Like he's a big dude, and even
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though he's like turned down, he's still like he's a
big guy still, right, And I think he still will
maintain those physical advantages in most matchups. It's just like
like I said, like there's just a little more. There's
just like a little more zip. You know, he's a
little quicker out of the gates. He's a little uh,
he's just there's just more there. Yeah. Zip is like
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the probably the right word for it. I think it
was like it's kind of like his acceleration was what
I noticed most. And what's what's wild, guys, is like
I mean he shot the ball okay there from three,
but it like it showed up always, Like he was
awesome at the free throw line, awesome, right, and like
to me, like fatigue is a place where like sometimes
you miss free throws. He you know, he only he
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felt like way less tired, even though that tournament is
a bear. You're playing forty minute games. He's playing a
ton of minutes and like you're playing four and five
crazy high like playoff type intensity. You know, he held
up really well physically.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
What what else impressed you over over there?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I mean also you know other players, anybody else impress
you while you're watching the tournament over there?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, I mean I thought Denny Avdia for Israel was
a guy that I've long felt like he's been like
a guy that you know a team, whether it's the Lakers,
the Clippers, any of these teams that are in contention.
Like it's like if you could get Denny Avdia, like,
go get Denny Avdia, and he looked awesome. He looked
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great watching you know, you know a player you'll hear
a lot about this season, as Larry Arkinen in Finland.
He was not in Poland where I was watching games,
but like watching other games and stuff like that at
maybe a Polish bar er two while I was there,
but like watching Laurie markinin Uh, they have an eighteen
year old on their team too, will be in the
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draft next year or I'm sorry, I think it's next year.
Like I forget his name. His nickname is Slim Jesus
though awesome nickname. That dude was was really really impressive.
And then like you look, you got Giannis and Dennis Shrewder.
You know, I like, like international Dennis Shrewder is a
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like that guy. You could tell why a coach like
Darvin Ham like wanted to go into the trenches with
Dennis Shruder, Like that guy can fight, and you know,
I think he obviously was. You know, Germany won the tournament.
They won the tournament. He's the best player on that team,
and that team has a lot of NBA players. He's
the team's on question leader. It's just, you know, something
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about it for these guys and they put on that
national jersey, you know, particularly like you know, if you're
in a country like Slovenia where you like you're the
one NBA guy, you're the show. It just like you
want to do this for your friends. These are guys
they've they've competed with for a very long time, you know,
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and it's just it just seems like it takes guys
to a slightly different level.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Dan, can you really tell the difference when you go
to those games and just your standard NBA game in December?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah? Absolutely, I mean, like I think the the stakes right,
you feel like, yes, absolutely, it's much closer to a
playoff game than it is to a to a like
a regular season game. I would say, like and you know,
I wasn't even at the knockout stages and stuff like that.
(09:45):
It's just like, you know, part of it is a
smaller arena and stuff like that. But like you know,
when any when anybody played like Poland, when we were there,
it felt like the biggest game in the world when
you're in the arena, like you know, Rob Plinka, Genie
busk As, they were all there, Linda Rambis were there
for the first game when Slovenia played Poland, and incredible atmosphere,
(10:08):
incredible atmosphere, and you know, at one point I texted
Ron Plink about it and he's just like this is unreal.
You know, it's it's just it's special. And and guys,
I think you know, from the Lakers standpoint too, wh's
kind of interesting for for the brand and stuff like that,
is that like, you know, this is somebody who you
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know is like truly like a global like this is
another like global presence, and this organization has had a
bunch of them, and like there were at the at
the merch stand inside the arena right like you could
buy a Poland national jersey or you could buy a
Luca Docha Slovenian jersey. Like that was it. The Poland
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jersey was blank. There was no other individual player who
had their stuff on it except for Luca, you know,
and that was like he's that level of star. A
massive billboard across the way, uh, you know for a
video game partnership he's doing like just yeah, I mean
he's he's one of the he's one of the biggest
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basketball stars in the world. And I think like if
he plays well this year and he plays well for
the Lakers, I don't think it's like out of bounds
to think like maybe he can be like messy to
some degree, you know, like like he has that sort
of like on court like magnetism, and you know when
you consider when you add that to a team that
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already has like somebody who's like other worldly famous like
Lebron James. Like, if you're somebody who doesn't want to
hear about the Lakers, like it's going to be a
long year because like like put those two guys on
the team and if they're playing well, like the mean
a lot of people interested.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, to say the least Okay, so you mentioned
the Lakers. Let's talk about the Lakers and what they're
may or may not do before U before training camp, Begans,
any word on anything Dan in terms of the Lakers,
are we looking at as constructed let's move forward.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I think it's as constructed, but I would say the
doors are more open now than they were. You know,
before Luca signed his extension right like earlier this summer,
I had reported that the Lakers were not interested in
Andrew Wiggins. At the time, that was true. They were
(12:29):
not interested in Andrew Wiggins. He has a pretty hefty
player option next season that would cut into the Lakers flexibility.
I think there was some concern about that. There was also, guys,
to be honest, some concern about helping Miami clear up
cat space because one of the teams that was sort
of always kind of rumored in the in the in
(12:50):
the shadows to want to chase Lukaatchi should he be available,
is the Miami Heat. That's where Goran Dragas played. Gorn
Dragitch also Slovenian. You know, that was the like, I
think kind of a secondary reason as to like, like
the Lakers not wanting to maybe do business, the heat
on this type of stuff. Luca signs the extension, he
(13:11):
gets an amazing shape, he goes out and and you know,
there's the best player at euro Basket. I think there's
some recalibration going on as to like maybe you know,
like okay, let's talk specific about Andrew Riggins, Like okay,
like you know, maybe we would be willing to take
on that that that contract. I think the idea though
(13:33):
that the Lakers would trade a first round pick to
get Andrew Higgins, particularly like the one first round pick
that they have, I don't think that's a price they'll
be willing to meet. So, you know, if that's the
hold up for Miami right now, like there's not going
to be a deal, But if Miami were to be
interested in something that involves some expiring contracts maybe Dalton
(13:53):
connect maybe to Swop or something like that, there could
be a deal there. I just you know, I think
there's some questions like the Lakers would have to ask,
like one they would ask themselves, like you know, if
it's an either or situation with Ruey Hatchmurro or Andrew Wigins,
does putting assets in for Andrew Wagins? Is he that
much better than Ruey Hatchmara. That would be a question
(14:15):
the Lakers would ask. I think, like, you know, so
then if it's gonna be Rui and Andrew Wiggins, the
laxt question is do we have enough to get them,
you know, with without without dipping into stuff that we
might have earmarked for other things down the road. And
that's gonna be a dance when the Lakers play this
year with Andrew Wiggins, It's gonna be a dance they
play at the trade deadline if they're competitive, you know,
like they don't have unlimited resources. It sounds like a
(14:37):
Brokerman by the Lakers, but like it's sort of like,
you know, they've got one draft pick they can trade,
you know, this year, and you know, if they don't
trade it, they'll have three they can use next summer,
and like that will be a constant part of their culchulusts.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
All right, Dan, thank you for coming on, thank you
for the info, and welcome home.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
As I'm doing this, guys, I'm staring at a massive
hornets nest in my backyard. Whoa any advice?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Get a basketball bat and hit it it so I
won't be on the short work guys.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
All right, I'll see later. I'm gonna die like girl. Yeah,
this is gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
All right.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I think I'm gonna go back to Poland. I think
I'm gonna go back to Poland. Guys, there are no hornets.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
There, all right.
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Come on.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Let's keep it moving on a hump day. Roddy Pete,
fred Rogan beautiful, it's hot today, early cloud cover coming down.
But man, it still feels like some are a little
bit Freddy.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, is it gonna rain? I don't know clouds are
coming in. I don't know if it's gonna rain or nine.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I heard there's a possibility of rain and if a
range is gonna rain hard, So forewarned is forearmed? All right,
here's the deal. Sometimes optics shape someone's opinion. Now, a
lot of teams in Major League Baseball are eliminating their
pro scouting department, or at the very least, what they're
(16:58):
doing is cutting back on their trap. They believe that
they can watch tape and do their work effectively. Now,
the Minnesota Twins have been a dumpster fire as an organization.
The family that owned the team tried to sell it
that fell through, so then they brought into limited partners
to try to pay down the debt. In the meantime,
(17:18):
the Twins are not investing heavily now because they're going
to start cutting costs. They moved a number of players
at the trade deadline.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Ten of them.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
As a matter of fact, and now comes forward that
they were eliminating their four person pro scouting department. So
let's start with that they only had four in the department. Anyway,
I don't know what the Dodgers do, but I assure
you if Minnesota had four, of the Dodgers have a
lot more. So they're getting rid of those four people,
people that I'm around a long time, one in his
(17:47):
thirty ninth season, one in his fifteenth season.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
They're eliminating those guys.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
And what they're going to do is trade it over
to the baseball department to look at tape and evaluate
players and do scouting that Now, on the surface, teams
make changes. The Cubs have done something like this, and
on the surface, you go, well, okay, in the new world,
maybe it's a more effective way to do business. But
if you're the Minnesota Twins and you're struggling and you're
(18:16):
mortgaging guys off at the trade deadline, it really is
a really bad look, you know what I mean, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's a horrible look. It's a horrible look when you
look up and you basically as a fan base, and
you see the Dodgers, you see the Phillies, you see
the Mets, you know, doing Yankees, doing whatever it takes,
Padres doing whatever it takes to win. And in a
(18:43):
world that yes, analytics are there, but the good teams
are hiring more people and putting more people on staff,
whether it be the training staff, whether it be the
again like you mentioned, the scouting staff, the advanced scouting staff,
the front office. They're putting more people in place, not
(19:04):
taking them away. And when you see this happen, you
really start to question what's the commitment to winning a
title or a championship, especially in the near future. I mean,
I mean they're firing the guys that have been there
for thirty nine years or thirty five years or whatever
it is. That doesn't sound like a franchise that is
(19:26):
looking to the future to say we're all in, We're
going to go for it. See, I get change in
business that happens all the time. Our business has changed,
and if you're listening to business you have worked in
or currently worked in, has changed. It just does over years.
It evolves. But the problem is.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
When you're not good, when you're not one of the
best teams, and you start this, it's a really bad
message to your fans. That's what it is. It's really
bad messaging. It's bad optically. It's for people, and you know,
you feel for an but it loses their job. It's
four people in the scouting department. It's not like they
(20:03):
fired everybody that works there. But then you start to
think as a fan, Yeah, but isn't scouting important because
it's how we build our team. On the other hand,
the Baseball Operations department says, well, we look at tape.
We can make those decisions ourselves. Who's right, who's wrong.
Time will tell. But what you do know is that
if you're the twins, it's a bad look. It's a
(20:26):
bad look. And maybe they'll be right and maybe it
won't matter, and maybe those four that lost their job,
I had an illustrious career with a club and it's time.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
To move on. But optically, it's just a really bad look. Yeah,
it's a bad look. I don't you know.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I know we're moving into the you know, the AI world,
technology world, all of those things, but there's still a
human interaction that is necessary. And I don't care what
sport it is that's necessary. These scouts, they're the ones
out there grinding it on the road, meeting people meeting
these kids, meeting high school kids or college kids, or
(21:05):
traveling overseas to meet people. And a lot of times
it's not just about talent for it. A lot of
times it's just I want to see what kind of
kid this is. I want to meet him, shake his hand,
see what it's all about, talk to his coaches, talk
to I mean, those things go into scouting. It sometimes
is a thankless job. It's like college when in college,
(21:28):
well college has changed too, but it's in college being
the recruiter, the coaches that had to go out and
recruit the high school kids and figure out, Okay, the
kid's got a lot of talent, but he's not a
kid we want on our team.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I don't like his attitude.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
He's you know, he's a certain way, he's entitled. Do
we really want him? You can't find that out just
by watching tape. You can watch tape and go, oh,
the kid can hit, Oh, the kid can field. Oh,
the kid throws ninety eight. But does he fit your organization?
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You have to have a conversation with that kid to
figure that out.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Two o'clock.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Dylan Hernandez at the Times joined us and up next
during a long surgery.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I didn't really know this.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Doctors actually take breaks. So if you're in there for
six hours, maybe the guy took a forty minute break.
What do they do during the breaks? That's next?
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Speaker 3 (23:03):
Oh yes, now right back on a beautiful Wednesday hump day. Now, Freddy,
you left me with something that I couldn't wait to
get back to hear the story because it troubled me
that you said that doctors, certain doctors or some doctors
do certain things during surgery. And I've had a lot
of surgeries over my lifetime. It's troubling, Freddy, So please
(23:29):
please elaborate on what you were talking about.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Now, let me give you this story. First, I didn't
realize this. I've had a few surgeries. But if you're
in there for a while, sometimes the doctor takes something
accrore me. Apparently something called a comfort break. You know,
there's someone in there monitoring the patient. Obviously he's not
going to walk away in the middle of open heart surgery,
(23:53):
but it'll take a take a minute or two collect
his thoughts, maybe just kind of you know, get focused again.
Just step away, take a comfort break.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Ya.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
I looked into this deeper thread. Apparently they will step
away at times, depending on how long the surgery is
and what type of surgery it is, they will go
grab a snack, go to the bathroom. And I don't
want to call him a substitute surgeon, but that's essentially
what they are. Will step in and contain this procedure
while they step out.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean, I get it that certain procedures.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
You know, when you go into it and you look
at you know, the operating room and the table, there's
you know, there's always multiple people in there, sometimes four,
sometimes eight, ten people may be in the room. You
got the you know, get in your anesthesia and you
got nurses in there, and someone's gonna come in and
stitch you up and all those things. And there might
be different levels of that particular procedure that the specialists
(24:44):
or the doctor in charge. Say it's a guy like
Neil right, Tommy Johns, or he's doing a knee that
he gets somebody is prepping that and then he goes
in and you know, does the bulk of the work,
but he's got to wait another forty five minutes before
he can continue on. Somebody else has to do something
else around that particular area, so it goes and takes
(25:07):
a break.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I get that. I guess, all.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Right, So here's what we're talking about. That's what they do.
That would kind of what some of the doctors do.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Yeah, if they're in a middle procedure and there's something
that they don't necessarily have to be in there for,
they will step out and they can take a break,
go grab a snack, whatever it is, and they'll come
back and finish up. Or if they really just gotta
go for some particular reason, they'll have other people try
to stand in and do what they can or at
least keep the patient safe while they step away for
a few minutes and then come back.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And there's all there's monitors obviously, and you're in the
operating room, there's monitors are gonna monitor everything, your blood pressure,
your heart everything, that's going on. Nurses are right there,
so they're gonna monitor everything. My question is when they
step away, what do they step in away to do? Right,
I don't know, maybe go to the bathroom, you know,
just get some air. Or in the case of a
surgery during twenty twenty three, a doctor named doctor so
(25:57):
Hail and Jump who will was forty four years old,
in the middle of surgery and said that, you know what,
I need a break?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Can you step in? Sure? No problem? And he did.
He went and he took a break. And actually I.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Didn't know they do this. He wandered into another operating room. Now,
the reason we know he was in another operating room
there was no surgery going on in that operating room
was empty. But the reason we know he went in
there is because someone happened to walk by, look in
and see him there. Well, maybe he was meditating, maybe
(26:34):
he was just you know, focusing. Well I think he
was doing something else because as the person walked by
and looked into the operating room, he did see this
individual did see the doctor pulling up his scrubs and
tying them, and saw a nurse with her underpants. Her
(26:54):
pants were pulled down and her underpants, and the doctor
admitted what he had done during the procedure for comfort
was stepped away and had sex with a nurse in
another operating room. Now, by the way, they are not married.
The married doctor had sex with the other nurse in
(27:16):
the operating room during surgery he was performing. He explained
that obviously he was quite stressed, and he blamed his
actions on the fact that he and his family had
just gone through the premature birth of his daughter and
he was overwhelmed. He was so overwhelmed and so stressed
(27:37):
that while operating he went into the other room and
had sex with another nurse and was caught doing it. Yes,
he lost his job, Rodney, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Oh, oh, doc, come on, doc, Eh, this is this
When did this happened?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Twenty thirty years ago? Twenty twenty three?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Okay, yeah, listen, it's twenty twenty three. It's not too
far removed from twenty twenty five. So you absolutely know
that there are cameras everywhere. There are people watching everywhere,
especially in a hospital, just in case a patient may
wander somewhere, there are cameras, There are people security, whoever
(28:28):
it may be. He's got monitors everywhere watching whatever may happen,
people walking by, cleaning crew, checking the empty rooms to
make sure it's prep for the next patient, anywhere anywhere.
You mean to tell me that they couldn't wait. They
were so into each other that they had to do
it in the middle of his surgery.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Nurse, retractor, Please thank you. Nurse.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yes, nurse, we got about forty five minute. I just uh,
I just secured that suiture right there, and uh, you
know it's gonna be another forty five minutes before that.
We can uh, we can get back in and do
the uh do the left knee.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Okay, let's go. Oh, by the way, we have an
update me into R eight. No, we have an update Rodney.
And I don't know if this is something he should
be proud of. He was only gone for eight minutes.
Oh and perhaps that's why he was fired, because if
you're going to step away for that eight minutes, there's
(29:32):
a cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
But maybe maybe that's a skill set that he had
and they had together.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
We only need eight minutes. It's like you know.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
NASCAR or Formula one racing, when they go into the pit,
you know, get in and get out.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I gotta get in and get out, Fred. Yeah, maybe
that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yes, he got it back to the r Maybe that
is a skill rather than looking at it as a
you know, faulty wiring or you know, lack of performance.
Maybe it's a skill set that he was able to
master because he is a surgeon. That didn't take me
very long.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Well, the good news for him, he has a lot
of time to master that skill set now because he's
not a surgeon anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Although so somebody looked in. Let me get this right
real quick. Somebody looked in.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, and saw them having sex and then reported it
to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
There was another nurse that looked in, saw him pulling
up his scrubs and saw the other nurse had her
pants down and her underpants. So she said, you know,
I'm not sure this is you know, what we should
be doing. And she told somebody and then they investigated,
and yes, they had gone into another operating room and
have sex during the proceed.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Eight minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Do you think if they had sex in another room
and it wasn't during the procedure that they would have
been fired, like if they just do it was on
his rounds. She was on her rounds or she was
on break and he was just doing some routine rounds,
not in not in surgery.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Do you think he would have been fired? I think
that's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
You don't think it's untore that two co workers who
are not married or having sex during company time. No, Yeah,
regardless of the circumstances. I think he's probably getting it
regardless for it.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Well, you know, you might be a little harder than
I am.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I don't know what they would do. They might warn him,
It depends. Yeah, you would warn him, you guys, knock
it off. Hey, doc, hey, we know what you've been
doing in R eight, all right, just don't do it
during surgery.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
You think one of a host in this building and
a producer in this building are called doing what they're
doing in a production studio. They're gonna get a slap
on the wrist and say, hey, don't.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Do that anymore. Hasn't that happened in this building.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
I don't know that for it.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I know something else happened in that building. I think
it happened in the in the parking structure or something
like that. Don't Rodney, don't just inches away again. One
(32:25):
more word, and that would have been that would have
been it for us again. Don't tell that story, Okay
when we come back, doll And Hernatas of the Times
joins us
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