September 19, 2025 • 29 mins
The Dodgers beat the Giants 2-1 to take a 3 game lead in the NL West. As Clayton Kershaw gets ready for the final regular season start of his career we ask: Who is the greatest Dodger of all time?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, let's go on a Friday. Let's go, let's go,
Let's go on a Friday. Rodney Pete and my man
back on this Friday, my man, Adam Austlin And for
Fred today it is Friday. Adam, we absolutely positively don't care.
But tonight we really do care. Adam.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Kind of a big deal. Thanks for having me on today.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Of course, of course, Buddy, always always a pleasure to
have you on the show. Man. All right, So we'll
get into Clayton Kershaw on his last performance in the
regular season at Dodger Stadium tonight in a little bit,
But let's just go back to last night, Man. Last
night was one of those games for the Dodgers that
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they have over the last month, month and a half.
That's a game that they lose. Yeah, they find a
way to lose that game.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Get those strikes that Blake Trine and ended up getting
against Williadmis that got him out of that eighth inning.
I think it was because he couldn't find it for
a while, but they got through it. Yeah, I think
it's one of those things. This was, hopefully for the
Dodger's sake, something bigger than just one win. Coming off
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the back of Clayton Kershaw pregame with that emotional press conference,
you get into the ballgame, your starter is giving you
everything again in Yamamoto and you just start to feel
like it's the old Jaws music coming for you. Here
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Speaker 1 (02:10):
JOm right on, right on. Yeah, you know, Yama Moto
he is he has you know, we we we talk
a lot about O'tani and Kershaw and and even Blake
Snell the other night who was lights out and became
you know, is the Blake Snell that at least most
of us thought he was and uh before they signed him,
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and when they did sign and it was like, Okay,
we got our eighth because he is dominant when he
can be dominant, and he was, and hopefully that's the
Blake Snell will continue to see. But Yama Yama Moto
has been very consistent for the Dodgers over the last
month month and a half. And he pitched. It wasn't
his best game, but he got himself out of jams
in at five and a five and a third innings,
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He got himself in the in in jams and then
he got himself out of jams to to finish that with,
you know, with no run scored. I mean, he did
an outstanding job of just battling. And then, like you said,
they turned it over to the bullpen, and the first
thing comes to your mind is the Jaws music. Man.
It's like, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Now?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
We don't have enough runs? This is not big enough.
Two runs is not big enough for the Dodgers. They
find a way to squander this, but they held on
man and won that game, which at this time of year,
I think that's pretty big at him.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Now you're looking for a turning point, You're looking for
a change, you know, the guard with their luck and
their bad luck they've had with the bullpen and Alex
Avestia closing things out and Dave Roberts saying, hey, basically,
right now, it could be anybody's night. And that's the
role of a reliever anyways, at the spur of a moment,
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you could be called upon. So while baseball players are
such creatures of habit and are so routine oriented, the
job of a reliever is to be more impromptu. Spotting
and spontaneity has to be had. And Blake Trinon's been
the fireman who has been out there trying to put
out the fires when they have traffic on the base paths,
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and he was able to get out of trouble even
when he didn't have his best stuff. But then Alex
Vesia just shutting things down the way he did and
closing that game when the Dodgers are trying to figure
out who's going to be that guy in the ninth
and maybe they will do it by committee, because last
year it kind of just shook out that eventually Blake
trying was their big game guy when they needed him
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in the postseason. Do they have somebody else now in
Vessia And Michael kopikn't. He wasn't able to find the
strike zone either, But you're able to battle, as you mentioned,
and just get through it anyways when you don't maybe
have your best stuff and the Giants lineup can help
you there too, because they're devoid of power and runs
at times, and they have been struggling since the Dodgers
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beat him in that series recently before this four gam
where we got going on now, But you're looking for
a little bit of a spark and momentum heading as
of the postseason in particular areas, and for the Dodgers,
it's really about just the relievers being a little bit
a lot more consistent right now in shutting things down
after their starters. I think since August first, now Rodney
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they're starting pitching era has been best in the game. Yeah,
and those guys time and time again get let down
by the bullpen, and you wonder, is that going to
break their starters at some point so where they feel
like they have to do too much, so can the
bullpen finally pick them up a little bit can they
get back to doing what we know they're capable of.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, it was. It was good to see Bonda at
the end and Vessie had closed it out. You know,
VESSI had got dinged up, was hurt for a little bit,
missed some time, and before he did that, he was
coming on, but he was also he felt like he
was a little fatigued. And last night it felt like
he got his mojo back, you know, coming in on
that ninth and he let me ask you this, Adam,
do do you think it? Do you think it matters?
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I mean, the Dodgers got away with it last year,
but do you think it matters having a true closer nowadays?
In today's baseball? You remember, you know the Yankee trot
it out Mariano Rivera. It was Sandman right, it was
a rap. And even for the Dodgers for a period
of what four to five years, Kelly Jansen came out
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of that bullpen and it was a rap too. So
how important do you think it is to have a
guy to close it out as opposed to doing it
by committee like the Dodgers did last year and the
Dodgers are doing this year.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think, honestly, because the analytics, because teams want to
be less predictable than ever and have just a multitude
of arms you can go to. Maybe the Dodgers are
more of the blueprint of how to do things because
the way they got away with it last year in
the postseason, when we thought heading into the postseason, stone's out,
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it's over, that's it. They don't have enough pitching, and
they pass worked things together. They were doing a m
Geiver like job, and I think it was the best
job we ever saw from Dave Roberts as manager of
the Dodgers. By the way, probably still doesn't get enough
credit for how good they were with how little pitching
they had, But the bullpen was obviously their strength. They
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don't win that series against San Diego, they don't get
out of that jam down two games to one early
on if it wasn't for the bullpen. And I wonder
if they can just ride the hot hand again and
see who's at their best and just pick and choose.
All right, we can go off of matchups. We can
go off of how this reliever is throwing right now,
how somebody is feeling, and therefore the opposition they don't know.
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It's a moving target with who you're going to be
going up against in the ninth inning. I think there
can be value to that, and not just with the Dodgers,
but that is something maybe we'll see more so throughout
the league because teams take notice of whoever is winning,
and it's a copycat league in sports.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
We know that.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
So I think the Dodgers they already have the confidence
they can do this once again while not having if
Tan or Scott. You know, it doesn't look like he's
ever gonna get back to being the guy that he
was last year this season at least, But I think
they're comfortable with doing it that way, and that's what's
important for Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah. I think it's also because the Dodgers invested in
the pitching this offseason. Going into the postseason, they're going
to have they're gonna have a plethora of pitchers, and
then who do you utilize, you know, in those you know,
for instance, like last night, if Yamamoto goes five and
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a third or five and two thirds whatever he went,
and you need somebody to come in in the postseason
to really you know, maybe give you two innings, give
you three if you can they're going to have some
guys like Immachian, Yeah, right, that started for you and
did really well for you that they can utilize out
of that bullpen and then just really worry about the
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you know, the eighth and the ninth and the eighth
used to be where you said, like you said that
trying would come in and put out the fire for
you know, whatever the situation called. He was your guy,
your stopper, and then you closed with whoever. I still
think it's going to be committee. I think Dave is
using his last however many games to just figure out, Okay,
what are we going to do come postseason because I
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think he's still trotting guys out there that I don't
know if he uses in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, and because he was able to press all the
right buttons last year. Nobody should be you know, there
shouldn't be a level of trepidation about this because they've
done it before, so nobody should be shook over it.
You mentioned Emmett Shean, he could be there in long relief. Kershaw,
who will talk about could be there in long relief.
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And then Trin in Bonda, alex Vessia Dryer and Roki Sazaki,
who was throwing some gas in relief in Oklahoma City,
and he's gonna have I guess one more outing and
then rejoin the doc. There's your wild card. What can
he do for you? So they have optionality here. They
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have a lot of good options. Actually, as much as
we have talked about the bullpen being a problem as
of late, when you condense things and shortened rotations and
all of a sudden you're only going with the most
optimal guy. Because now it's the playoffs, we can put
guys out there for longer, we can push them a
little bit further innings wise, and we don't have to
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rely on some of these lesser arms that haven't been
getting it done. I think the Dodgers in the end
could look like they have a pretty devastating bullpen when
they need it most come the postseason.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, and the fact that they do have a lot
of basically a lot of starters now that they're all
back healthy and you mentioned Kershaw could possibly be coming
out of the pen, I think that they're going to
allow for their starters, just given the way the season's gone,
allow their starters to go deeper. I think they will
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push their starters to go deeper into games, and I
don't think the one hundred pitch count is going to
be much of a factor. If a guy's going, well,
he like Blake Blake Snell, you know, if he's going,
I don't care if he's one hundred and fifty pitches.
He's going.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now, they're not going to Tampa Bay him. They're not
gonna do what they did to him in the World
Series against the Dodgers. That was probably a key moment
for Dave Roberts to go out there on the mound.
I'm sure you guys discussed it, but that to me,
when you talk about gaining momentum and things coming together
at the right time, that's kind of that reminder that, oh,
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you know what, we can go old school and have
a gut feeling here about a guy and let him
shake us off or let him say hey, I got
this and you can believe in him. I think it's
not just something that is going to be isolated to
Blake Snell in those situations because he just did it
the other night. But Dave Roberts is going to be
more open to that with other starting pitchers, maybe because
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the bullpit struggled and there's a little bit of an
unknown in some ways, but I still believe in it
come to playoffs. But just because uh, they do have
arms and guys who have been there and done that
and have had some really good seasons, especially as of
late was starting pitching last month and a half, they
have been dominant. So why would you not ride that
a little bit further?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And maybe based on last night,
whoever's opening that gate, they're gonna have to get the
double signed because they're gonna wait. You know, normally when
Dave comes out, he's making a change, but the other night,
I think Bessie it was almost a third base before
they turned him told him to turn around and go back.
They have to be a walkie talkie or somebody out
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there saying wait, not until Dave give you the the
real signal, not the olkie dooke signal, before you open
that gate and let somebody out. But I thought, I
now to.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
V like buzzer signal, that's what's gonna have.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
To I agree with you though that it was a
It was a great moment for Day to go out
there with the INTI of taking him out. But yet
in the moment having a conversation. I don't know how
much conversation it was other than Blake saying I'm good,
I got this guy. Let me get him, and Dave
trusting him enough to say, okay, go get him, and
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then and walking back to the dugouts. So that was
a big moment. That was a big moment. I think
in a lot of ways. It was also you know,
reminded me of of Walker Bhler last year or Blake
Trining last year when Dave went out to go look
at Blake trying to in the eye and Blake said
I got him and he got him, and then allowing
Walker Buehler to just go down to the bullpen and
say I'm ready and then go to him. I mean,
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those things that he got criticized in the past for
is mister analytics. He doesn't do He just goes everything
by the book and there's no gut h He's He's
evolved in that way, which is which is really really
good to see. Okay, So tonight tonight, Adam the last
regular season game for Kershaw in a Dodger uniform. You know,
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obviously we got the playoffs coming up, and see him
in the playoffs. But last regular scene for a regular
season game for Kershaw, how do you first of all
your thoughts on him and him retiring and also the
timing of it, like announcing it yesterday, What are your
thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I thought it was appropriate to let the fans know, Hey,
if you want to see me, you'd better do it
soon here. And to be honest, I think if Kershaw
wasn't dealing with so many injuries going on the last
couple of seasons that put him in tough spots to
where he didn't get a chance to really go out
on his own terms. Like it looks like he'll be
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able to this season. I think Kershaw said, I don't
want the game to take me out. I want to
be able to make this decision on my own. I
don't want to be one of those guys that has
one more injury, one more shoulder injury, and that's the end.
I don't want to go out. After getting lit up
in that first inning in twenty twenty three by the Diamondbacks,
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He's had a relatively healthy season. He's been a workhorse
for them. He's been mister eliable, too consistent. He's er
really is an indicative of how good he's been, because
it's a couple of outlier games where he's gotten blown up.
For the most part, he's been really good, and it's
a good reminder I think of just who he's been
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throughout his career, with the reliability, with the pure dominance
out there. And it's even more impressive in some ways
now because he ain't throwing ninety six with his fastball anymore.
He's throwing eighty eight eighty nine and joking about it
during the All Star Game while being miked up with
Joe Davis, like here comes some stinking cheese right now,
and that he maybe hits ninety on the gun and
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has some fun with it, making fun of himself. But
I mean, some of the numbers are astounding when it
comes to winning. In a consistency of winning. He's made
four hundred and forty nine starts and has just ninety
six losses over two hundred wins. It's one hundred and
nine more starts than any other pitcher will be history
with fewer than one hundred losses. It's he's the best
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picture of his generation, and he's more than that to
Dodger fans. And I think some of it when I
look at Clayton Kershaw's because unlike Sandy Kofax, Sandy Kofax
is almost mythical with how dominant he was in the
World Series, having an ERA under one. Clayton Kershaw has
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had some wartz. He's flawed, he's human. It's more relatable
in that way. And you know, I grew up a
Giants fan up in Norcoo. I have seen him dominate
the Giants, maybe more so than anyone throughout the last
eighteen seasons, and you would think, uh, here it comes.
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Adam's gonna call him Peyton Kershaw or something like that,
because his postseason ERA is almost two runs higher. He's
had some bad luck at times, He's some great performances
obviously in the postseason. But to me, what told me
about Clayton Kershawn, who he was and why I have
the utmost respect for him, was in his darkest moment.
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And this audio came in twenty nineteen after he gave
up those two home runs against Washington and I must
win Game five in the Divisional Series, I think it was,
and it looked like the Dodgers were moving on. They
were the best team in baseball. They get upset he
comes out in relief, probably didn't need to. That was
a strange decision at the time, I think by Dave Roberts.
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He took some criticism there too, but they were looking
for Clayton Kershaw to close things out and save him
and he couldn't.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
And what he said.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Postgame here off this question from Jim Hill to me
speaks volumes about who he is as a man and
as a competitor.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Well, Clayton exists about as wist as you've ever filed.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah, I mean the most cy you know, I'm not
gonna hame my head. I'm going to be here. I'm
going to continue to try to fight, continue to how
to compete. I'm not going to shy away from it
and continue to do it. Everything people say is true
right now the postseason, I understand that nothing I can
do about it right now. It's a terrible feeling, it
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really is. But yeah, I'm not gonna hang my head
and be here next year and trying to do the
same thing. And we try and do it every single year.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So a couple of things stick out to me there.
First of all, Rodney him even speaking to the media
in that moment, is just there are some guys who
just couldn't face face the firing squad, couldn't face the
microphones because it was that bad. It was the lowest
point of his career.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
But for him, that's what it was. Rendon and once
Sota went back to back on him right.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Right, and Kershaw dropped to his knees on the second one, like,
I can't believe this is happening to me again, And
he acknowledged it was the first time and maybe the
only time that he's acknowledge the narrative about him in
the postseason, and he said it there everything that people
are saying about me in the postseason is true. Right now,
there's nothing I can do about it. But I'm gonna
come back and I'm gonna compete, and I'm gonna be
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here and I'm gonna face the music when things go wrong,
and I'll be here obviously in victory and in defeat.
And I just thought it took a lot of courage
and professionalism and it told me who he was as
a competitor that even though the narrative about him in
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the postseason was really negative, especially in that moment, he'd
come out there and say, hey, I ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
If you think I'm gonna curl into a ball in
the fetal position, you're wrong. And guess what. He came
back the next season they won the World Series and
he probably had his best postseason that twenty twenty year. Yeah,
through winning against Tampa Bay. So I got so much
respect for Clayton Kershaw. And to me, that was an
under the radar example of just who he is as
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a man.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah. Now, absolutely, with integrity all the way through eighteen
years with the Dodgers, Bill Plaski wrote that Clayton Kershaw
is the best Dodger ever, best Dodger ever. We want
to hear from y'all. Y'all think who is the best
Dodger ever? Eight six six nine, eight seven, two five
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seventy is the number. Plaski says. It's Clayton Kershaw. Do
you think Clayton Kershaw is the best Dodger ever? And
if not, who is the best Dodger ever? Adam, I'm
gonna get your thoughts.
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Eight six six nine eighty seven two five seventy is
a number. Who is the greatest Dodger ever? Who is
that person? You're gonna get our thoughts and we want
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Speaker 5 (21:24):
I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna retire. I think it's
the right time at.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
The end of the season.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
He will retire after it.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
There it is, Come on, gotta let it roll. Gotta
let it roll, because it's Friday. That's what we do
here on Fridays. Still, we don't absolutely know how, no way,
we absolutely no, we don't know. We don't. We gonna
let it go. That's why we kick Freddy off. We
don't care. Eight six six nine eighty seven two five
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seventy is the number. The question is it's Clayton Kershaw,
the greatest Dodger ever. And we got a full boards
and we're gonna try to get to everybody, but Adam
before we start, I want to get to you, and
I want to get your take on what Plaski says
that Kershaw's the greatest Dodger. Ever.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think it's interesting because when you weigh this out,
obviously it's subjective. There's different eras involved. Semi Kofax peaked higher.
He doesn't have the longevity that Kershaw does.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah he was cut short.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, cut down in his prime and his arm went
at thirty. But he peaked so high. It's kind of
similar to the MJ. Lebron debate. Now Lebron is peaked
very high and different sections of his career, but people,
some who argue for Eric Jordan would say his peak
was slightly higher during that first three p I think
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Kershawn maybe this is prisoner of the moment a little bit.
I think he does qualify as the greatest Dodger just
because a lot of people have grown up and they
don't know the Dodgers without him right now, and it's
just going to be strange because he has been part
of your life for so long. He's a touchstone here
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in Los Angeles, and he's been so reliable. I mean,
if you look at some of the numbers that he has,
it's crazy to me because the first nine seasons, he's
got an there of two point three seven. The last
nine seasons, he's got in there at two point eighty one.
While he hasn't had his greatest stuff, well, he's had
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to work through a lot of different injuries. He keeps
coming back. He reinvents himself. The curve is still devastating
when he needs it, but he's not changing speeds the
way he used to be able to. I think it's
pretty remarkable, and I think when you talk about longevity
sometimes has looked at negatively because he didn't peak as high.
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But it's almost like he's played into different eras and
he's been two different pictures and both those guys are
two of the most successful pitchers ever. So greatest picture
of his generation, been doing it for almost twenty years,
has won two World Series with the Los Angeles Dodgers.
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I think it's fair. Honestly, I don't know who do
you got.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Ronny Well, let's just say, Look, it's it's easy to
get caught up in the moment. He's retiring. Tonight is
his last started Dodger Stadium as in the regular season,
So there's all kinds of emotions when you're talking about
Clayton Kershaw, and I think you're right when you know,
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when you talk about a guy like Sandy Kofax who
had a incredible what six year run and you know,
a couple world series. Cy Young's all that stuff and
was the most dominant picture of that era, but his
career was cut short in his prime. It makes you
think a certain way, you know. And the fact that
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even when we you know, you play the clip of
Clayton going out there, he wasn't afraid. He wasn't afraid
to fail. He wasn't afraid to be, you know, to
put himself in situations that may not have been the
most favorable situations like coming out of the pen, which
that's not his mo. And yet he was willing to
do that. And there's got to be something to be
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said for that for a guy that doesn't play it safe.
And you play this long, trust me, you play this long,
They're gonna be ups and downs, and a lot of
times people focus on on the negativity and focus on
your negative stuff, like he mentioned in that clip that
people are gonna look at the postseason and see, you know,
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and say a certain thing about me, or there's this
this is my mo o. But when you play eighteen years,
you're going to have those kind of ups and downs.
And I can remember, and I said this the other day,
that there were so many games where he lost one
to nothing or he lost two to one, where he
didn't get run support. Even in the postseason. Remember those
battles he you know Dodgers used to have with them, Oh.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, with the Cardinals twenty thirteen, all.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Of those yeah, sense you know, And you talk about
a couple of cy Youngs, and I think he had
was he was a cy young and he was the
MVP in one year in the same year, which is
which was incredible. All that being said, I just I
still can't get past Jackie Robinson. I can't get past
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Jackie Robinson of the things he did, Rookie of the Year,
you know, you know, bringing that World Series to Brooklyn
after can't beat the Yankees for so many years and
they finally did it. Yeah, and you know, the changing
basically changing a part of our world is what he did.
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And so I can't I can't look past Jackie Robinson.
He will always be to me the greatest Dodger of
all time, just just because of what the circumstances were
and what he meant to not only baseball in sports,
but to to life.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It almost feels like his his on the field contributions
are underrated because of how great he was off the
field too, Right, He's so transcendent as an athlete and
during that time especially so meaningful to the world.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, so for me, it's it's it's Jackie. And then
you know, you get into Diland to the pitchers, and
you know, again you got to go back to you
got to go to the longevity part of it. You know,
Kofax obviously was dominant, not not many people were more
dominant than Kofax. Drysdale was dominant when he pitched. You know,
you look at guys like Roy Campanella, Campanera, you know
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what I mean. He was such a big time figure
with the Dodgers, Fernando No Fernando Fernando and Fernando Mania.
But again it goes back to longevity. Fernando did it
for a shorter period of time and was as dominant
and as impactful a Dodger as anybody, but he didn't
do it for eighteen years, you know. So that's the
thing when it comes to Clayton. It's a it's an
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interesting debate, and I want to hear what the fans
and the people think about this as Clayton Kershaw or
is Clayton Kershaw the greatest Dodger ever? Eight six, six, nine,
eighty seven, two five seventy is the number. So let's
get it going at him.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Go ahead, all right, Solomon in Lake Balboa, you're a
for Solomon? What's up here on room with Rogan and Rodney?
I'm at a mausin in for Freddie Rogan. It's absolute.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Hey, guys, it's a pleasure talking with you. I have
to do it by era. I can't choose one. I
got Jasie Robinson for his era. I got Changing Cofax
for his era, and probably Clayton for his era. Like
you say, you stick with the team for eighteen years,
that's a store today. That didn't That ain't happening anymore
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in baseball. And you could not associate the Dodgers for
all that time without thinking, first, Clinton Kershaw, what you're
gonna do, she's gonna be injured, Is you're gonna have
a good year, Is you're gonna play, You're gonna do
it well in the postseason, it all seems to revolve
around Clinton. Actually, so that's my that's my top three.
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I couldn't choose between between them if I had to.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, that's the thing in Adam, We've talked about this
in basketball oftentimes, like you just mentioned Lebron and MJ
and Kareem in all different eras and things like that,
and it's really hard. It's hard to distinguish and separate
the era of which a guy plays and and how
the game has changed, you know, over the years. But
certainly certainly a conversation and a debate that will continue
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to go on forever and ever. All right, now, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
The longevity also, Rodney, speaking of Solomon's point there, the
fact that he almost feels like family. We've been watching
him for so long and we've watched him battle so much,
and he wasn't infallible. It's different than Sandy Kofax. He's
more relatable to me because of that. It just resonates
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more with me. I mean, people defending Clayton Kershaw like
he's a family member. When he had some playoff down
falls and when you had those excruciatingly painful losses out there,
there was just a different way to relate to him
than I think a lot of these Dodgers, or at
least guys before my time. Mario in the OC, Mario,
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what's up?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
You're on?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Rogan and Rodney?
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Hey, how's it going? Guys? You know, Ronnie Pete, you know,
you bring up a pretty good thing with Jackie Robinson.
And going to my point, I think Tolmla Sorda. You know,
he said himself, I believe Dodger Blue. When I die,
I'm gonna go to a big, big Dodgers up in
the sky.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
You know.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
Yeah, nowadays it's hard for any kind of baseball player
or any professional athlete to stay with one ski. That
was something way back when everybody stayed forever and in
like I said, in my point of view, I think
tom and Disorda is the greatest Dodger ever.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I like that. That point that's hard to argue with.
You know, I think we focused on players, but when
you really just say Dodgers, yeah, you know, hard hard
to argue with Tommy and the impact that he had
with this organization and taking them and really building it
to and taking it to a whole different level and
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understanding what it meant. First of all, to wear Dodger blue,
but also understanding the market and understanding LA and understanding
where you are, and Tommy embraced it all.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I feel like with Tommy he makes me think of
establishing a standard in some ways and upholding to that.
I also think when you talk about non players, some
might say Vince Gully is the greatest Dodger ever. Yeah,
when you go down that road, uh Gino. In Virginia,
you're on Rogan and Rodney. Who's your greatest Dodger ever?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Welcome. I have just a couple of seconds, real quick,
because at my age, I'm a Dodger sports member, Billia
collector in Virginia all my life. In LA, I've seen
Sandy Kopax twice sixty five, sixty six. I did see
Jackie Robinson, the greatest Dodger ever. When you speak about managers,
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Walter Alston, Losordo, I'm American, Mexican Vealezuela, Bobby Castile. But
Kurshall eighteen years, he tops the mountain of Dodgers by
all means. Let's put the managers aside, you know what
I mean. But Kurshall, Yeah, he's tips the scale for
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the Dodger.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Big Blue in this guy and them, and I had one.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
More question, gentlemen, did they picked Apple Plus TV? I
found out I'm not having the game tonight on MLBAM
because I get all Dodger games except the blackout TV.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So we got nothing for you on that, friend.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, well, we'll have somebody in the back room do
some research for you. Don know. Well, I appreciate your call, man,
thank you very much. But yeah, look, I think it's
going to come into play a lot with with our calls.
Is the you know, the the longevity of Clayton Kershaw
and to your point, Adam putting it all out there
on your sleeves and not playing it safe. He's never
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been that guy to play it safe. And no, I'm
not pitching today because I am a little sore, or no,
I'm not willing to come out of the bullpen in
the seventh. I'm just gonna put it out there for
my team. He was the ultimate teammate and that's uh,
that's something that's uh, that's really hard to argue with.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, fans, you know, they're aware of his shortcomings at times,
Dodger fans on the playoffs, but he's not perfect, but
he's ours that's how That's how I felt his relationship
was with Dodger Nation for so long. He's not perfect,
but he's ours and we're going to war with him.
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And by the way, he's uh still the greatest picture
of his generation while not being perfect. Let's go to
Felix in San Diego. Felix, what's up you're on? Rogan Rody?
Speaker 9 (34:26):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Gentlemen? Hey Rodney?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Before I start, man, I got yesterday when I called,
by the way, fight on, I forgot to say happy
birthday to your lovely wife.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Ah, thanks, dude, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I will let her. I don't even have to let
her know because I know she listens. She always listens
in she listens and critiques me. Man, So she's listening
right now. So appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (34:48):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Me and my girl watched twenty one Jump Street when
we were kids.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Listen, guys, I told Kevin.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
And uh yeah, I mean bottom line.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Historically, for a lot of the reasons you guys already mentioned,
it's coofax. But I will tell you guys this, I'm
pushing forty nine. I saw Valonzoila's rookie year that's the
first time I went to Dodger Stadium as a kid.
Eighty three. That's when I was introduced to USC football.
I was in the Marine Corps when Piazza got his
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rookie year, and I'm getting emotional, but it is just
one of those things where I was. I watched him overseas. Kershaw,
I was in Kuwait when he came in. So for me, Mike,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
For your service. By the way, before we go to first,
thank you for your service.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Man.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
I appreciate it, of course, thanks.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But Piazza and Kershaw for me, you know, for everything.
I have sentimental value with them too. And Valenzoila obviously
since he was the first person I saw, and you know,
just I was in awe. But I have to say,
I mean, if you say, you know, if you say
like overall, I would out to say, colfax my girlfriend
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that we're going to the game of the night. We're
we're taking the train in about an hour, and she
was telling me, she was like, you know what, I
have known nothing about the Dodgers other than the world
serious I took her last year. She grew up a
brave saying but she's like, yeah, I know, I know
who Colfax is. Everybody knows Faxes so and she's she's
a lot younger, but anyway, but yeah, I would say
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cloth Fax.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Overall, appreciate the call man, Appreciate the call. Yeah, it's amazing.
You know so many people because we look, we're in
twenty twenty five. Most people, you know, don't don't remember.
First of all, don't remember seeing or having any recollection
of watching Sandy Kofax pitch. And even for me, I
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never saw him pitch. It was you know, you see
clips and you hear stories, but I never actually saw
him pitch. And sometimes if you don't see somebody per
or you don't watch them on TV, it's it's like
you don't have there's a different level of appreciation when
you don't see it. And we're in an era where
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everything is on TV, everything is a sound by everything
is a clip that you can find anything with today's players,
and so maybe they're at a disadvantage the guys that
played in the fifties, sixties and seventies that some of
the guys today don't have. But listen, we got a
full board and this is such a great topic and
Clayton Kershaw is such an iconic figure when it comes
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to not just the Dodgers, but LA sports in general.
He's been there eighteen years. You talk about loyalty opportunities.
Remember there was several talks and chants and thoughts about him.
You know when he became a free agent to going
home to Texas and play for the Rangers to finish
out his career. He didn't do that. He wanted to
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remain a Dodger. That speaks the volumes about the kind
of person he is, really amazing. But we're gonna we're
gonna continue with the calls, so please please hold on,
stay on, We'll continue this conversation. Yes, that's right, greatest
Dodger of all time. Also, I just want to give
your heads up. Jack Arris is going to join us
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from the Times and we'll we'll talk to him a
little bit about about these Dodgers and going forward. But again,
greatest Dodger of all time? Who is it? Manny wouldn
whoa We heard some Manny Wood, Adam Austin and for
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on hold talking about the greatest Dodger.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Ever, Rodney. Nobody's ever had to say, where's mission New
Jersey because he's always on hold? Next Rock Rodney, what's up?
Speaker 9 (40:31):
How are we doing? Adam Ronnie good I didn't say yes.
See Happy belated Berta, Hollyeah joined Mike and Molly, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Thank you, Mitch, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Happy birthday, Ally good Case.
Speaker 9 (40:44):
Had they've been a good doctors back in the day,
Saney Colfax would have put in some numbers. It was
a great basketball player, ascuse he was a bad cat
and he played above the rims. Sydney Colfax. I saw
what I thought a Clayton play. Another year or two,
I got Lebron Tommy. Tom Brady's ten. Tom Brady, he's
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ten and two. I threw he had it, but it's
hard work. He makes you look easy. And one was
thing Tom. Had Mike pias never been traded, I think
he would have been the best dodge ever. That nice weekend.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
That's kind of an interesting one. If Mike Piazza, yeah
and stead he went down the greatest marvelin of all time? Right,
Oh no, that was a very short lived.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Greatest Met Piazza hit, the Piazza hit the home run,
and that first game back after two thousand and after
nine to eleven, which was such a such a moment.
They replayed that. I mean, they replayed every year, but man,
what a what a damn moment in New York City,
first game that after Major League Baseball resume play and
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Piazza goes deep to help the Mets win. I can't
even imagine the electricity in that state when he did that.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Uplifted the American spirit right there. Jeff in thousand Oaks,
you're on Rogan and Rodney amount of maslin in for Freddy. Jeff,
what's up?
Speaker 10 (42:11):
Yeah, hey, guys, how you doing good?
Speaker 11 (42:14):
You know? So, first of all, today is Clayton Kershaw
Appreciation Day, So let's give him his props. I know
everybody at the Ravine will give him his love, and
he'll feel the city's love for sure. I think as
far as the.
Speaker 10 (42:27):
Best Dodger goes, you've got to put Jackie there, h just.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
For what he did.
Speaker 11 (42:31):
He's an icon like Muhammad al Li, you know, breaking
the color barrier and doing it with grace. Uh, you
know that can't be tops, but he didn't play in LA,
you know, so I think, and I'm I'm young enough
where I consider the LA Dodgers, So I think as
far as LA goes, it's weird when you think about it,
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there's no position players that come right to mind. Like
in the seventies and eighties you had that infield that's
stuck together forever. You're Dusty Baker. Of course, who is
my childhood idol grown up? And then you know in
the nineties you got Piata, but he got traded and
played under bad ownerships, so it takes him off the list.
So I think the best Dodger ever has got to
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be Kofax. You know, I didn't see him play, but
you know, this city is about championships, and uh, you know,
Clayton unfortunately has put us Dodger fans through some tough,
tough evenings and that's hard to get past. It's like
you know one of your girlfriends that you that you
get back together with later. But it's it's tough to
put Clayton at the top of that list just because
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of his postseason record, and as a fan, you know,
we feel that and you know, I've been on text
thread texting buddies during those times, and we knew it
was going to happen almost, So.
Speaker 10 (43:49):
That's tough, you know. So I think he got to
put Sandy over Kershaw. But I think ultimately, and I'm hoping,
God willing, he stays healthy, that show Hey is going
to prove to be the best Dodger of all time.
You know, the ownership situation, the way they're surrounding him
with players, just the unicorn that he is. Yeah, I
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think he's gonna prove himself out to be the goat.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
You know, appreciate it, man, appreciate your call. Yeah, you know,
show Hay is here for the length of his contract.
It may be hard to argue what he does if
he continues to just I mean, if he's even seventy
five percent of what he's been in the first couple
of years with the Dodgers, it's gonna be without question,
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he will be the greatest. But that's you know, we
don't have a crystal ball. We can't look into the future.
But it's it is. But it's also amazing that you
do have, like you just said, a lot of young
folks that think that you know that never saw Kofax
still believe that he's the greatest Dodger.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
I mean, can you already say this regarding show hail
TONI Rodney as a position. I know he's doing both
this year, but he's already had the two greatest hitting
seasons as a Dodger. And then you look at last year,
the stolen bases, this year fifty home runs, fifty innings pitched.
He's making a strong case, as strong of the cases
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you could have in just two years so far, or
not even through the second one. It's unbelievable. I'm of
the mind that sho hail Tani, if he has a
postseason where he's a dual threat like this and they
go on to win the World Series, he's easily the
best player ever. I don't know if that's bold. I
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think it's worth discussing already because he's so unique and
he is that unicorn. But if he has a postseason
where he pitches them to a World Series win while hitting,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Think you can have an argument for anybody.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Else made a better player overall than it.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
But again it goes to longevity. Two so eighteen years
with Clayton, a lot of years with some of the
other guys, Adam, we got a couple calls left. Let's
get through those so we can, uh, we can wrap
everybody up and make sure everybody got a voice.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Go ahead, dam it in Valencia. You're on Rogan and Rodney.
Speaker 12 (46:08):
What's up, Hey, guys, Thanks for taking my call. Always
a pleasure talking to you guys. So when I think
about these impossible questions, the greatest, the greatest, it's always
who's the first one that pops in my mind. And
I went back and forth between Clayton and Jackie Robinson
to pick, and so what I came up with was
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Clayton is the greatest Dodger ever. Jackie Robinson is the
most important Dodger ever. That's kind of way I see it.
Speaker 10 (46:38):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
And Jackie can be I like the way you broke
that down, appreciate the call. Yeah, now that's a that's
a good way to break it down. Because like we
talked about, you know, somebody wanted to bring Tom and
Lasorda in there, and Vin Scully you mentioned that when
he just are we just talking about Dodgers? Are we
talking about impactful players? We're talking about on the field,
off the but in general, when and he's right. When
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you talk about the greatest Dodger ever, what is the
first one that pops in your head? That's usually what
you believe. All right, I'll finish this up.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Last one, Chris and Lahabra, who's your greatest Dodger ever?
Speaker 10 (47:16):
Hey, Chris h.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
How you doing?
Speaker 7 (47:19):
First of all, shout out on the Clipper nation.
Speaker 9 (47:21):
Baby, we're here this year.
Speaker 13 (47:22):
We're gonna get it. Secondly, everyone talking about Mike Piazza.
He don't claim us anymore, so we don't claim him.
So Lastly, Kershaw, I think he's the greatest. You know,
I heard people talk without a doubt. You can't go
against what Rodnie said about Jackie. I think the landscape
of baseball and just just outside of baseball, like life
in general, every sport, everyone looks up the Jackie and
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his impact. But Clayton Kershaw, you know, just to piggyback
on some of the other colors.
Speaker 7 (47:48):
You know, we've had a lot of ups and downs
with them, But what do they call that?
Speaker 13 (47:50):
That common law marriage? When you're with some play for
X amount of years and you've gone through the up
and downs. You know, Kershaw had a chance, you know,
Kurtsh I had a chance to leave us at one
point for back home, but he chose to stay home
with us in LA And I think, you know, growing
up I was, I was a freshman in high school
when he started off, and just you know, maybe prisoner
of the moment, but everything that he's done with us
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a longevity. Like we said, you know, Cofax looking at
his staff, never got to see him play, but I
think just you know, the workouse he was probably what
led to what you know, ended his career. But Kershall overall,
I think means a lot to us through the ups
and downs, his vulnerability, you know, his giving back to
the community, everything that he's done for the city and
for the team has been very unselfish and you know
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we're forever indebted to him.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Kershaw would go, yeah, I appreciate that. Where it ended, man,
that was that was a great comment man about on
and off the field with with Clayton Kershaw and his
beautiful wife Ellen and what they do for the community
and what they've done for Dodger Nation here all over
the country and in fact all over the world. If
you really follow Clayton Kershaw, you understand he does a
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lot of work in Africa, He does a lot of
work around the world, around the globe, and uses his influence,
uses his his dollars, and puts his money where his
mouth is. So I'm a great humanitarian.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I like that marriage call too, and sickness and in
health and world series wins and in postseason implosions he's
ours baby.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Oh yes, we got to get to it too, because
you know, it's all about that dollar, dollar bill, y'all,
dollar dollar bill, y'all.
Oh, let's go on a Friday. Let's go, let's go,
Let's go on a Friday. Rodney Pete and my man
back on this Friday, my man, Adam Austlin And for
Fred today it is Friday. Adam, we absolutely positively don't care.
But tonight we really do care. Adam.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Kind of a big deal. Thanks for having me on today.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Of course, of course, Buddy, always always a pleasure to
have you on the show. Man. All right, So we'll
get into Clayton Kershaw on his last performance in the
regular season at Dodger Stadium tonight in a little bit,
But let's just go back to last night, Man. Last
night was one of those games for the Dodgers that
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they have over the last month, month and a half.
That's a game that they lose. Yeah, they find a
way to lose that game.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Get those strikes that Blake Trine and ended up getting
against Williadmis that got him out of that eighth inning.
I think it was because he couldn't find it for
a while, but they got through it. Yeah, I think
it's one of those things. This was, hopefully for the
Dodger's sake, something bigger than just one win. Coming off
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the back of Clayton Kershaw pregame with that emotional press conference,
you get into the ballgame, your starter is giving you
everything again in Yamamoto and you just start to feel
like it's the old Jaws music coming for you. Here
comes the Bullpen. No no, no, No fifteenth Anniversary. I
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Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh yeah, it's a great doc if you haven't seen it. Yeah,
David Spielsberg talking about Jaws. Yeah, yeah, go check it out.
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JOm right on, right on. Yeah, you know, Yama Moto
he is he has you know, we we we talk
a lot about O'tani and Kershaw and and even Blake
Snell the other night who was lights out and became
you know, is the Blake Snell that at least most
of us thought he was and uh before they signed him,
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and when they did sign and it was like, Okay,
we got our eighth because he is dominant when he
can be dominant, and he was, and hopefully that's the
Blake Snell will continue to see. But Yama Yama Moto
has been very consistent for the Dodgers over the last
month month and a half. And he pitched. It wasn't
his best game, but he got himself out of jams
in at five and a five and a third innings,
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He got himself in the in in jams and then
he got himself out of jams to to finish that with,
you know, with no run scored. I mean, he did
an outstanding job of just battling. And then, like you said,
they turned it over to the bullpen, and the first
thing comes to your mind is the Jaws music. Man.
It's like, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Now?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
We don't have enough runs? This is not big enough.
Two runs is not big enough for the Dodgers. They
find a way to squander this, but they held on
man and won that game, which at this time of year,
I think that's pretty big at him.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Now you're looking for a turning point, You're looking for
a change, you know, the guard with their luck and
their bad luck they've had with the bullpen and Alex
Avestia closing things out and Dave Roberts saying, hey, basically,
right now, it could be anybody's night. And that's the
role of a reliever anyways, at the spur of a moment,
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you could be called upon. So while baseball players are
such creatures of habit and are so routine oriented, the
job of a reliever is to be more impromptu. Spotting
and spontaneity has to be had. And Blake Trinon's been
the fireman who has been out there trying to put
out the fires when they have traffic on the base paths,
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and he was able to get out of trouble even
when he didn't have his best stuff. But then Alex
Vesia just shutting things down the way he did and
closing that game when the Dodgers are trying to figure
out who's going to be that guy in the ninth
and maybe they will do it by committee, because last
year it kind of just shook out that eventually Blake
trying was their big game guy when they needed him
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in the postseason. Do they have somebody else now in
Vessia And Michael kopikn't. He wasn't able to find the
strike zone either, But you're able to battle, as you mentioned,
and just get through it anyways when you don't maybe
have your best stuff and the Giants lineup can help
you there too, because they're devoid of power and runs
at times, and they have been struggling since the Dodgers
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beat him in that series recently before this four gam
where we got going on now, But you're looking for
a little bit of a spark and momentum heading as
of the postseason in particular areas, and for the Dodgers,
it's really about just the relievers being a little bit
a lot more consistent right now in shutting things down
after their starters. I think since August first, now Rodney
(05:18):
they're starting pitching era has been best in the game. Yeah,
and those guys time and time again get let down
by the bullpen, and you wonder, is that going to
break their starters at some point so where they feel
like they have to do too much, so can the
bullpen finally pick them up a little bit can they
get back to doing what we know they're capable of.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, it was. It was good to see Bonda at
the end and Vessie had closed it out. You know,
VESSI had got dinged up, was hurt for a little bit,
missed some time, and before he did that, he was
coming on, but he was also he felt like he
was a little fatigued. And last night it felt like
he got his mojo back, you know, coming in on
that ninth and he let me ask you this, Adam,
do do you think it? Do you think it matters?
(05:58):
I mean, the Dodgers got away with it last year,
but do you think it matters having a true closer nowadays?
In today's baseball? You remember, you know the Yankee trot
it out Mariano Rivera. It was Sandman right, it was
a rap. And even for the Dodgers for a period
of what four to five years, Kelly Jansen came out
(06:19):
of that bullpen and it was a rap too. So
how important do you think it is to have a
guy to close it out as opposed to doing it
by committee like the Dodgers did last year and the
Dodgers are doing this year.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think, honestly, because the analytics, because teams want to
be less predictable than ever and have just a multitude
of arms you can go to. Maybe the Dodgers are
more of the blueprint of how to do things because
the way they got away with it last year in
the postseason, when we thought heading into the postseason, stone's out,
(06:53):
it's over, that's it. They don't have enough pitching, and
they pass worked things together. They were doing a m
Geiver like job, and I think it was the best
job we ever saw from Dave Roberts as manager of
the Dodgers. By the way, probably still doesn't get enough
credit for how good they were with how little pitching
they had, But the bullpen was obviously their strength. They
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don't win that series against San Diego, they don't get
out of that jam down two games to one early
on if it wasn't for the bullpen. And I wonder
if they can just ride the hot hand again and
see who's at their best and just pick and choose.
All right, we can go off of matchups. We can
go off of how this reliever is throwing right now,
how somebody is feeling, and therefore the opposition they don't know.
(07:37):
It's a moving target with who you're going to be
going up against in the ninth inning. I think there
can be value to that, and not just with the Dodgers,
but that is something maybe we'll see more so throughout
the league because teams take notice of whoever is winning,
and it's a copycat league in sports.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
We know that.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
So I think the Dodgers they already have the confidence
they can do this once again while not having if
Tan or Scott. You know, it doesn't look like he's
ever gonna get back to being the guy that he
was last year this season at least, But I think
they're comfortable with doing it that way, and that's what's
important for Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah. I think it's also because the Dodgers invested in
the pitching this offseason. Going into the postseason, they're going
to have they're gonna have a plethora of pitchers, and
then who do you utilize, you know, in those you know,
for instance, like last night, if Yamamoto goes five and
(08:34):
a third or five and two thirds whatever he went,
and you need somebody to come in in the postseason
to really you know, maybe give you two innings, give
you three if you can they're going to have some
guys like Immachian, Yeah, right, that started for you and
did really well for you that they can utilize out
of that bullpen and then just really worry about the
(08:55):
you know, the eighth and the ninth and the eighth
used to be where you said, like you said that
trying would come in and put out the fire for
you know, whatever the situation called. He was your guy,
your stopper, and then you closed with whoever. I still
think it's going to be committee. I think Dave is
using his last however many games to just figure out, Okay,
what are we going to do come postseason because I
(09:18):
think he's still trotting guys out there that I don't
know if he uses in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, and because he was able to press all the
right buttons last year. Nobody should be you know, there
shouldn't be a level of trepidation about this because they've
done it before, so nobody should be shook over it.
You mentioned Emmett Shean, he could be there in long relief. Kershaw,
who will talk about could be there in long relief.
(09:44):
And then Trin in Bonda, alex Vessia Dryer and Roki Sazaki,
who was throwing some gas in relief in Oklahoma City,
and he's gonna have I guess one more outing and
then rejoin the doc. There's your wild card. What can
he do for you? So they have optionality here. They
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have a lot of good options. Actually, as much as
we have talked about the bullpen being a problem as
of late, when you condense things and shortened rotations and
all of a sudden you're only going with the most
optimal guy. Because now it's the playoffs, we can put
guys out there for longer, we can push them a
little bit further innings wise, and we don't have to
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rely on some of these lesser arms that haven't been
getting it done. I think the Dodgers in the end
could look like they have a pretty devastating bullpen when
they need it most come the postseason.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, and the fact that they do have a lot
of basically a lot of starters now that they're all
back healthy and you mentioned Kershaw could possibly be coming
out of the pen, I think that they're going to
allow for their starters, just given the way the season's gone,
allow their starters to go deeper. I think they will
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push their starters to go deeper into games, and I
don't think the one hundred pitch count is going to
be much of a factor. If a guy's going, well,
he like Blake Blake Snell, you know, if he's going,
I don't care if he's one hundred and fifty pitches.
He's going.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now, they're not going to Tampa Bay him. They're not
gonna do what they did to him in the World
Series against the Dodgers. That was probably a key moment
for Dave Roberts to go out there on the mound.
I'm sure you guys discussed it, but that to me,
when you talk about gaining momentum and things coming together
at the right time, that's kind of that reminder that, oh,
(11:37):
you know what, we can go old school and have
a gut feeling here about a guy and let him
shake us off or let him say hey, I got
this and you can believe in him. I think it's
not just something that is going to be isolated to
Blake Snell in those situations because he just did it
the other night. But Dave Roberts is going to be
more open to that with other starting pitchers, maybe because
(11:59):
the bullpit struggled and there's a little bit of an
unknown in some ways, but I still believe in it
come to playoffs. But just because uh, they do have
arms and guys who have been there and done that
and have had some really good seasons, especially as of
late was starting pitching last month and a half, they
have been dominant. So why would you not ride that
a little bit further?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And maybe based on last night,
whoever's opening that gate, they're gonna have to get the
double signed because they're gonna wait. You know, normally when
Dave comes out, he's making a change, but the other night,
I think Bessie it was almost a third base before
they turned him told him to turn around and go back.
They have to be a walkie talkie or somebody out
(12:39):
there saying wait, not until Dave give you the the
real signal, not the olkie dooke signal, before you open
that gate and let somebody out. But I thought, I
now to.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
V like buzzer signal, that's what's gonna have.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
To I agree with you though that it was a
It was a great moment for Day to go out
there with the INTI of taking him out. But yet
in the moment having a conversation. I don't know how
much conversation it was other than Blake saying I'm good,
I got this guy. Let me get him, and Dave
trusting him enough to say, okay, go get him, and
(13:12):
then and walking back to the dugouts. So that was
a big moment. That was a big moment. I think
in a lot of ways. It was also you know,
reminded me of of Walker Bhler last year or Blake
Trining last year when Dave went out to go look
at Blake trying to in the eye and Blake said
I got him and he got him, and then allowing
Walker Buehler to just go down to the bullpen and
say I'm ready and then go to him. I mean,
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those things that he got criticized in the past for
is mister analytics. He doesn't do He just goes everything
by the book and there's no gut h He's He's
evolved in that way, which is which is really really
good to see. Okay, So tonight tonight, Adam the last
regular season game for Kershaw in a Dodger uniform. You know,
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obviously we got the playoffs coming up, and see him
in the playoffs. But last regular scene for a regular
season game for Kershaw, how do you first of all
your thoughts on him and him retiring and also the
timing of it, like announcing it yesterday, What are your
thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I thought it was appropriate to let the fans know, Hey,
if you want to see me, you'd better do it
soon here. And to be honest, I think if Kershaw
wasn't dealing with so many injuries going on the last
couple of seasons that put him in tough spots to
where he didn't get a chance to really go out
on his own terms. Like it looks like he'll be
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able to this season. I think Kershaw said, I don't
want the game to take me out. I want to
be able to make this decision on my own. I
don't want to be one of those guys that has
one more injury, one more shoulder injury, and that's the end.
I don't want to go out. After getting lit up
in that first inning in twenty twenty three by the Diamondbacks,
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He's had a relatively healthy season. He's been a workhorse
for them. He's been mister eliable, too consistent. He's er
really is an indicative of how good he's been, because
it's a couple of outlier games where he's gotten blown up.
For the most part, he's been really good, and it's
a good reminder I think of just who he's been
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throughout his career, with the reliability, with the pure dominance
out there. And it's even more impressive in some ways
now because he ain't throwing ninety six with his fastball anymore.
He's throwing eighty eight eighty nine and joking about it
during the All Star Game while being miked up with
Joe Davis, like here comes some stinking cheese right now,
and that he maybe hits ninety on the gun and
(15:41):
has some fun with it, making fun of himself. But
I mean, some of the numbers are astounding when it
comes to winning. In a consistency of winning. He's made
four hundred and forty nine starts and has just ninety
six losses over two hundred wins. It's one hundred and
nine more starts than any other pitcher will be history
with fewer than one hundred losses. It's he's the best
(16:06):
picture of his generation, and he's more than that to
Dodger fans. And I think some of it when I
look at Clayton Kershaw's because unlike Sandy Kofax, Sandy Kofax
is almost mythical with how dominant he was in the
World Series, having an ERA under one. Clayton Kershaw has
(16:29):
had some wartz. He's flawed, he's human. It's more relatable
in that way. And you know, I grew up a
Giants fan up in Norcoo. I have seen him dominate
the Giants, maybe more so than anyone throughout the last
eighteen seasons, and you would think, uh, here it comes.
(16:49):
Adam's gonna call him Peyton Kershaw or something like that,
because his postseason ERA is almost two runs higher. He's
had some bad luck at times, He's some great performances
obviously in the postseason. But to me, what told me
about Clayton Kershawn, who he was and why I have
the utmost respect for him, was in his darkest moment.
(17:12):
And this audio came in twenty nineteen after he gave
up those two home runs against Washington and I must
win Game five in the Divisional Series, I think it was,
and it looked like the Dodgers were moving on. They
were the best team in baseball. They get upset he
comes out in relief, probably didn't need to. That was
a strange decision at the time, I think by Dave Roberts.
(17:35):
He took some criticism there too, but they were looking
for Clayton Kershaw to close things out and save him
and he couldn't.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
And what he said.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Postgame here off this question from Jim Hill to me
speaks volumes about who he is as a man and
as a competitor.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Well, Clayton exists about as wist as you've ever filed.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah, I mean the most cy you know, I'm not
gonna hame my head. I'm going to be here. I'm
going to continue to try to fight, continue to how
to compete. I'm not going to shy away from it
and continue to do it. Everything people say is true
right now the postseason, I understand that nothing I can
do about it right now. It's a terrible feeling, it
(18:18):
really is. But yeah, I'm not gonna hang my head
and be here next year and trying to do the
same thing. And we try and do it every single year.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So a couple of things stick out to me there.
First of all, Rodney him even speaking to the media
in that moment, is just there are some guys who
just couldn't face face the firing squad, couldn't face the
microphones because it was that bad. It was the lowest
point of his career.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
But for him, that's what it was. Rendon and once
Sota went back to back on him right.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Right, and Kershaw dropped to his knees on the second one, like,
I can't believe this is happening to me again, And
he acknowledged it was the first time and maybe the
only time that he's acknowledge the narrative about him in
the postseason, and he said it there everything that people
are saying about me in the postseason is true. Right now,
there's nothing I can do about it. But I'm gonna
come back and I'm gonna compete, and I'm gonna be
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here and I'm gonna face the music when things go wrong,
and I'll be here obviously in victory and in defeat.
And I just thought it took a lot of courage
and professionalism and it told me who he was as
a competitor that even though the narrative about him in
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the postseason was really negative, especially in that moment, he'd
come out there and say, hey, I ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
If you think I'm gonna curl into a ball in
the fetal position, you're wrong. And guess what. He came
back the next season they won the World Series and
he probably had his best postseason that twenty twenty year. Yeah,
through winning against Tampa Bay. So I got so much
respect for Clayton Kershaw. And to me, that was an
under the radar example of just who he is as
(20:09):
a man.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah. Now, absolutely, with integrity all the way through eighteen
years with the Dodgers, Bill Plaski wrote that Clayton Kershaw
is the best Dodger ever, best Dodger ever. We want
to hear from y'all. Y'all think who is the best
Dodger ever? Eight six six nine, eight seven, two five
(20:32):
seventy is the number. Plaski says. It's Clayton Kershaw. Do
you think Clayton Kershaw is the best Dodger ever? And
if not, who is the best Dodger ever? Adam, I'm
gonna get your thoughts.
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a number. Who is the greatest Dodger ever? Who is
that person? You're gonna get our thoughts and we want
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Speaker 5 (21:24):
I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna retire. I think it's
the right time at.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
The end of the season.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
He will retire after it.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
There it is, Come on, gotta let it roll. Gotta
let it roll, because it's Friday. That's what we do
here on Fridays. Still, we don't absolutely know how, no way,
we absolutely no, we don't know. We don't. We gonna
let it go. That's why we kick Freddy off. We
don't care. Eight six six nine eighty seven two five
(21:56):
seventy is the number. The question is it's Clayton Kershaw,
the greatest Dodger ever. And we got a full boards
and we're gonna try to get to everybody, but Adam
before we start, I want to get to you, and
I want to get your take on what Plaski says
that Kershaw's the greatest Dodger. Ever.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think it's interesting because when you weigh this out,
obviously it's subjective. There's different eras involved. Semi Kofax peaked higher.
He doesn't have the longevity that Kershaw does.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah he was cut short.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, cut down in his prime and his arm went
at thirty. But he peaked so high. It's kind of
similar to the MJ. Lebron debate. Now Lebron is peaked
very high and different sections of his career, but people,
some who argue for Eric Jordan would say his peak
was slightly higher during that first three p I think
(22:52):
Kershawn maybe this is prisoner of the moment a little bit.
I think he does qualify as the greatest Dodger just
because a lot of people have grown up and they
don't know the Dodgers without him right now, and it's
just going to be strange because he has been part
of your life for so long. He's a touchstone here
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in Los Angeles, and he's been so reliable. I mean,
if you look at some of the numbers that he has,
it's crazy to me because the first nine seasons, he's
got an there of two point three seven. The last
nine seasons, he's got in there at two point eighty one.
While he hasn't had his greatest stuff, well, he's had
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to work through a lot of different injuries. He keeps
coming back. He reinvents himself. The curve is still devastating
when he needs it, but he's not changing speeds the
way he used to be able to. I think it's
pretty remarkable, and I think when you talk about longevity
sometimes has looked at negatively because he didn't peak as high.
(23:57):
But it's almost like he's played into different eras and
he's been two different pictures and both those guys are
two of the most successful pitchers ever. So greatest picture
of his generation, been doing it for almost twenty years,
has won two World Series with the Los Angeles Dodgers.
(24:17):
I think it's fair. Honestly, I don't know who do
you got.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Ronny Well, let's just say, Look, it's it's easy to
get caught up in the moment. He's retiring. Tonight is
his last started Dodger Stadium as in the regular season,
So there's all kinds of emotions when you're talking about
Clayton Kershaw, and I think you're right when you know,
(24:40):
when you talk about a guy like Sandy Kofax who
had a incredible what six year run and you know,
a couple world series. Cy Young's all that stuff and
was the most dominant picture of that era, but his
career was cut short in his prime. It makes you
think a certain way, you know. And the fact that
(25:02):
even when we you know, you play the clip of
Clayton going out there, he wasn't afraid. He wasn't afraid
to fail. He wasn't afraid to be, you know, to
put himself in situations that may not have been the
most favorable situations like coming out of the pen, which
that's not his mo. And yet he was willing to
do that. And there's got to be something to be
(25:26):
said for that for a guy that doesn't play it safe.
And you play this long, trust me, you play this long,
They're gonna be ups and downs, and a lot of
times people focus on on the negativity and focus on
your negative stuff, like he mentioned in that clip that
people are gonna look at the postseason and see, you know,
(25:48):
and say a certain thing about me, or there's this
this is my mo o. But when you play eighteen years,
you're going to have those kind of ups and downs.
And I can remember, and I said this the other day,
that there were so many games where he lost one
to nothing or he lost two to one, where he
didn't get run support. Even in the postseason. Remember those
battles he you know Dodgers used to have with them, Oh.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, with the Cardinals twenty thirteen, all.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Of those yeah, sense you know, And you talk about
a couple of cy Youngs, and I think he had
was he was a cy young and he was the
MVP in one year in the same year, which is
which was incredible. All that being said, I just I
still can't get past Jackie Robinson. I can't get past
(26:38):
Jackie Robinson of the things he did, Rookie of the Year,
you know, you know, bringing that World Series to Brooklyn
after can't beat the Yankees for so many years and
they finally did it. Yeah, and you know, the changing
basically changing a part of our world is what he did.
(27:01):
And so I can't I can't look past Jackie Robinson.
He will always be to me the greatest Dodger of
all time, just just because of what the circumstances were
and what he meant to not only baseball in sports,
but to to life.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It almost feels like his his on the field contributions
are underrated because of how great he was off the
field too, Right, He's so transcendent as an athlete and
during that time especially so meaningful to the world.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, so for me, it's it's it's Jackie. And then
you know, you get into Diland to the pitchers, and
you know, again you got to go back to you
got to go to the longevity part of it. You know,
Kofax obviously was dominant, not not many people were more
dominant than Kofax. Drysdale was dominant when he pitched. You know,
you look at guys like Roy Campanella, Campanera, you know
(27:56):
what I mean. He was such a big time figure
with the Dodgers, Fernando No Fernando Fernando and Fernando Mania.
But again it goes back to longevity. Fernando did it
for a shorter period of time and was as dominant
and as impactful a Dodger as anybody, but he didn't
do it for eighteen years, you know. So that's the
thing when it comes to Clayton. It's a it's an
(28:18):
interesting debate, and I want to hear what the fans
and the people think about this as Clayton Kershaw or
is Clayton Kershaw the greatest Dodger ever? Eight six, six, nine,
eighty seven, two five seventy is the number. So let's
get it going at him.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Go ahead, all right, Solomon in Lake Balboa, you're a
for Solomon? What's up here on room with Rogan and Rodney?
I'm at a mausin in for Freddie Rogan. It's absolute.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Hey, guys, it's a pleasure talking with you. I have
to do it by era. I can't choose one. I
got Jasie Robinson for his era. I got Changing Cofax
for his era, and probably Clayton for his era. Like
you say, you stick with the team for eighteen years,
that's a store today. That didn't That ain't happening anymore
(29:02):
in baseball. And you could not associate the Dodgers for
all that time without thinking, first, Clinton Kershaw, what you're
gonna do, she's gonna be injured, Is you're gonna have
a good year, Is you're gonna play, You're gonna do
it well in the postseason, it all seems to revolve
around Clinton. Actually, so that's my that's my top three.
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I couldn't choose between between them if I had to.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, that's the thing in Adam, We've talked about this
in basketball oftentimes, like you just mentioned Lebron and MJ
and Kareem in all different eras and things like that,
and it's really hard. It's hard to distinguish and separate
the era of which a guy plays and and how
the game has changed, you know, over the years. But
certainly certainly a conversation and a debate that will continue
(29:50):
to go on forever and ever. All right, now, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
The longevity also, Rodney, speaking of Solomon's point there, the
fact that he almost feels like family. We've been watching
him for so long and we've watched him battle so much,
and he wasn't infallible. It's different than Sandy Kofax. He's
more relatable to me because of that. It just resonates
(30:13):
more with me. I mean, people defending Clayton Kershaw like
he's a family member. When he had some playoff down
falls and when you had those excruciatingly painful losses out there,
there was just a different way to relate to him
than I think a lot of these Dodgers, or at
least guys before my time. Mario in the OC, Mario,
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what's up?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
You're on?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Rogan and Rodney?
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Hey, how's it going? Guys? You know, Ronnie Pete, you know,
you bring up a pretty good thing with Jackie Robinson.
And going to my point, I think Tolmla Sorda. You know,
he said himself, I believe Dodger Blue. When I die,
I'm gonna go to a big, big Dodgers up in
the sky.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
You know.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
Yeah, nowadays it's hard for any kind of baseball player
or any professional athlete to stay with one ski. That
was something way back when everybody stayed forever and in
like I said, in my point of view, I think
tom and Disorda is the greatest Dodger ever.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I like that. That point that's hard to argue with.
You know, I think we focused on players, but when
you really just say Dodgers, yeah, you know, hard hard
to argue with Tommy and the impact that he had
with this organization and taking them and really building it
to and taking it to a whole different level and
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understanding what it meant. First of all, to wear Dodger blue,
but also understanding the market and understanding LA and understanding
where you are, and Tommy embraced it all.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I feel like with Tommy he makes me think of
establishing a standard in some ways and upholding to that.
I also think when you talk about non players, some
might say Vince Gully is the greatest Dodger ever. Yeah,
when you go down that road, uh Gino. In Virginia,
you're on Rogan and Rodney. Who's your greatest Dodger ever?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Welcome. I have just a couple of seconds, real quick,
because at my age, I'm a Dodger sports member, Billia
collector in Virginia all my life. In LA, I've seen
Sandy Kopax twice sixty five, sixty six. I did see
Jackie Robinson, the greatest Dodger ever. When you speak about managers,
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Walter Alston, Losordo, I'm American, Mexican Vealezuela, Bobby Castile. But
Kurshall eighteen years, he tops the mountain of Dodgers by
all means. Let's put the managers aside, you know what
I mean. But Kurshall, Yeah, he's tips the scale for
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the Dodger.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Big Blue in this guy and them, and I had one.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
More question, gentlemen, did they picked Apple Plus TV? I
found out I'm not having the game tonight on MLBAM
because I get all Dodger games except the blackout TV.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So we got nothing for you on that, friend.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, well, we'll have somebody in the back room do
some research for you. Don know. Well, I appreciate your call, man,
thank you very much. But yeah, look, I think it's
going to come into play a lot with with our calls.
Is the you know, the the longevity of Clayton Kershaw
and to your point, Adam putting it all out there
on your sleeves and not playing it safe. He's never
(33:36):
been that guy to play it safe. And no, I'm
not pitching today because I am a little sore, or no,
I'm not willing to come out of the bullpen in
the seventh. I'm just gonna put it out there for
my team. He was the ultimate teammate and that's uh,
that's something that's uh, that's really hard to argue with.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, fans, you know, they're aware of his shortcomings at times,
Dodger fans on the playoffs, but he's not perfect, but
he's ours that's how That's how I felt his relationship
was with Dodger Nation for so long. He's not perfect,
but he's ours and we're going to war with him.
(34:14):
And by the way, he's uh still the greatest picture
of his generation while not being perfect. Let's go to
Felix in San Diego. Felix, what's up you're on? Rogan Rody?
Speaker 9 (34:26):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Gentlemen? Hey Rodney?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Before I start, man, I got yesterday when I called,
by the way, fight on, I forgot to say happy
birthday to your lovely wife.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Ah, thanks, dude, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I will let her. I don't even have to let
her know because I know she listens. She always listens
in she listens and critiques me. Man, So she's listening
right now. So appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (34:48):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Me and my girl watched twenty one Jump Street when
we were kids.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Listen, guys, I told Kevin.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
And uh yeah, I mean bottom line.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Historically, for a lot of the reasons you guys already mentioned,
it's coofax. But I will tell you guys this, I'm
pushing forty nine. I saw Valonzoila's rookie year that's the
first time I went to Dodger Stadium as a kid.
Eighty three. That's when I was introduced to USC football.
I was in the Marine Corps when Piazza got his
(35:21):
rookie year, and I'm getting emotional, but it is just
one of those things where I was. I watched him overseas. Kershaw,
I was in Kuwait when he came in. So for me, Mike,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
For your service. By the way, before we go to first,
thank you for your service.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Man.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
I appreciate it, of course, thanks.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But Piazza and Kershaw for me, you know, for everything.
I have sentimental value with them too. And Valenzoila obviously
since he was the first person I saw, and you know,
just I was in awe. But I have to say,
I mean, if you say, you know, if you say
like overall, I would out to say, colfax my girlfriend
(36:02):
that we're going to the game of the night. We're
we're taking the train in about an hour, and she
was telling me, she was like, you know what, I
have known nothing about the Dodgers other than the world
serious I took her last year. She grew up a
brave saying but she's like, yeah, I know, I know
who Colfax is. Everybody knows Faxes so and she's she's
a lot younger, but anyway, but yeah, I would say
(36:25):
cloth Fax.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Overall, appreciate the call man, Appreciate the call. Yeah, it's amazing.
You know so many people because we look, we're in
twenty twenty five. Most people, you know, don't don't remember.
First of all, don't remember seeing or having any recollection
of watching Sandy Kofax pitch. And even for me, I
(36:49):
never saw him pitch. It was you know, you see
clips and you hear stories, but I never actually saw
him pitch. And sometimes if you don't see somebody per
or you don't watch them on TV, it's it's like
you don't have there's a different level of appreciation when
you don't see it. And we're in an era where
(37:09):
everything is on TV, everything is a sound by everything
is a clip that you can find anything with today's players,
and so maybe they're at a disadvantage the guys that
played in the fifties, sixties and seventies that some of
the guys today don't have. But listen, we got a
full board and this is such a great topic and
Clayton Kershaw is such an iconic figure when it comes
(37:31):
to not just the Dodgers, but LA sports in general.
He's been there eighteen years. You talk about loyalty opportunities.
Remember there was several talks and chants and thoughts about him.
You know when he became a free agent to going
home to Texas and play for the Rangers to finish
out his career. He didn't do that. He wanted to
(37:51):
remain a Dodger. That speaks the volumes about the kind
of person he is, really amazing. But we're gonna we're
gonna continue with the calls, so please please hold on,
stay on, We'll continue this conversation. Yes, that's right, greatest
Dodger of all time. Also, I just want to give
your heads up. Jack Arris is going to join us
(38:13):
from the Times and we'll we'll talk to him a
little bit about about these Dodgers and going forward. But again,
greatest Dodger of all time? Who is it? Manny wouldn
whoa We heard some Manny Wood, Adam Austin and for
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Speaker 2 (40:20):
Ever, Rodney. Nobody's ever had to say, where's mission New
Jersey because he's always on hold? Next Rock Rodney, what's up?
Speaker 9 (40:31):
How are we doing? Adam Ronnie good I didn't say yes.
See Happy belated Berta, Hollyeah joined Mike and Molly, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Thank you, Mitch, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Happy birthday, Ally good Case.
Speaker 9 (40:44):
Had they've been a good doctors back in the day,
Saney Colfax would have put in some numbers. It was
a great basketball player, ascuse he was a bad cat
and he played above the rims. Sydney Colfax. I saw
what I thought a Clayton play. Another year or two,
I got Lebron Tommy. Tom Brady's ten. Tom Brady, he's
(41:05):
ten and two. I threw he had it, but it's
hard work. He makes you look easy. And one was
thing Tom. Had Mike pias never been traded, I think
he would have been the best dodge ever. That nice weekend.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
That's kind of an interesting one. If Mike Piazza, yeah
and stead he went down the greatest marvelin of all time? Right,
Oh no, that was a very short lived.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Greatest Met Piazza hit, the Piazza hit the home run,
and that first game back after two thousand and after
nine to eleven, which was such a such a moment.
They replayed that. I mean, they replayed every year, but man,
what a what a damn moment in New York City,
first game that after Major League Baseball resume play and
(41:53):
Piazza goes deep to help the Mets win. I can't
even imagine the electricity in that state when he did that.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Uplifted the American spirit right there. Jeff in thousand Oaks,
you're on Rogan and Rodney amount of maslin in for Freddy. Jeff,
what's up?
Speaker 10 (42:11):
Yeah, hey, guys, how you doing good?
Speaker 11 (42:14):
You know? So, first of all, today is Clayton Kershaw
Appreciation Day, So let's give him his props. I know
everybody at the Ravine will give him his love, and
he'll feel the city's love for sure. I think as
far as the.
Speaker 10 (42:27):
Best Dodger goes, you've got to put Jackie there, h just.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
For what he did.
Speaker 11 (42:31):
He's an icon like Muhammad al Li, you know, breaking
the color barrier and doing it with grace. Uh, you
know that can't be tops, but he didn't play in LA,
you know, so I think, and I'm I'm young enough
where I consider the LA Dodgers, So I think as
far as LA goes, it's weird when you think about it,
(42:52):
there's no position players that come right to mind. Like
in the seventies and eighties you had that infield that's
stuck together forever. You're Dusty Baker. Of course, who is
my childhood idol grown up? And then you know in
the nineties you got Piata, but he got traded and
played under bad ownerships, so it takes him off the list.
So I think the best Dodger ever has got to
(43:15):
be Kofax. You know, I didn't see him play, but
you know, this city is about championships, and uh, you know,
Clayton unfortunately has put us Dodger fans through some tough,
tough evenings and that's hard to get past. It's like
you know one of your girlfriends that you that you
get back together with later. But it's it's tough to
put Clayton at the top of that list just because
(43:38):
of his postseason record, and as a fan, you know,
we feel that and you know, I've been on text
thread texting buddies during those times, and we knew it
was going to happen almost, So.
Speaker 10 (43:49):
That's tough, you know. So I think he got to
put Sandy over Kershaw. But I think ultimately, and I'm hoping,
God willing, he stays healthy, that show Hey is going
to prove to be the best Dodger of all time.
You know, the ownership situation, the way they're surrounding him
with players, just the unicorn that he is. Yeah, I
(44:12):
think he's gonna prove himself out to be the goat.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
You know, appreciate it, man, appreciate your call. Yeah, you know,
show Hay is here for the length of his contract.
It may be hard to argue what he does if
he continues to just I mean, if he's even seventy
five percent of what he's been in the first couple
of years with the Dodgers, it's gonna be without question,
(44:36):
he will be the greatest. But that's you know, we
don't have a crystal ball. We can't look into the future.
But it's it is. But it's also amazing that you
do have, like you just said, a lot of young
folks that think that you know that never saw Kofax
still believe that he's the greatest Dodger.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
I mean, can you already say this regarding show hail
TONI Rodney as a position. I know he's doing both
this year, but he's already had the two greatest hitting
seasons as a Dodger. And then you look at last year,
the stolen bases, this year fifty home runs, fifty innings pitched.
He's making a strong case, as strong of the cases
(45:16):
you could have in just two years so far, or
not even through the second one. It's unbelievable. I'm of
the mind that sho hail Tani, if he has a
postseason where he's a dual threat like this and they
go on to win the World Series, he's easily the
best player ever. I don't know if that's bold. I
(45:37):
think it's worth discussing already because he's so unique and
he is that unicorn. But if he has a postseason
where he pitches them to a World Series win while hitting,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Think you can have an argument for anybody.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Else made a better player overall than it.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
But again it goes to longevity. Two so eighteen years
with Clayton, a lot of years with some of the
other guys, Adam, we got a couple calls left. Let's
get through those so we can, uh, we can wrap
everybody up and make sure everybody got a voice.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Go ahead, dam it in Valencia. You're on Rogan and Rodney.
Speaker 12 (46:08):
What's up, Hey, guys, Thanks for taking my call. Always
a pleasure talking to you guys. So when I think
about these impossible questions, the greatest, the greatest, it's always
who's the first one that pops in my mind. And
I went back and forth between Clayton and Jackie Robinson
to pick, and so what I came up with was
(46:28):
Clayton is the greatest Dodger ever. Jackie Robinson is the
most important Dodger ever. That's kind of way I see it.
Speaker 10 (46:38):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
And Jackie can be I like the way you broke
that down, appreciate the call. Yeah, now that's a that's
a good way to break it down. Because like we
talked about, you know, somebody wanted to bring Tom and
Lasorda in there, and Vin Scully you mentioned that when
he just are we just talking about Dodgers? Are we
talking about impactful players? We're talking about on the field,
off the but in general, when and he's right. When
(47:04):
you talk about the greatest Dodger ever, what is the
first one that pops in your head? That's usually what
you believe. All right, I'll finish this up.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Last one, Chris and Lahabra, who's your greatest Dodger ever?
Speaker 10 (47:16):
Hey, Chris h.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
How you doing?
Speaker 7 (47:19):
First of all, shout out on the Clipper nation.
Speaker 9 (47:21):
Baby, we're here this year.
Speaker 13 (47:22):
We're gonna get it. Secondly, everyone talking about Mike Piazza.
He don't claim us anymore, so we don't claim him.
So Lastly, Kershaw, I think he's the greatest. You know,
I heard people talk without a doubt. You can't go
against what Rodnie said about Jackie. I think the landscape
of baseball and just just outside of baseball, like life
in general, every sport, everyone looks up the Jackie and
(47:44):
his impact. But Clayton Kershaw, you know, just to piggyback
on some of the other colors.
Speaker 7 (47:48):
You know, we've had a lot of ups and downs
with them, But what do they call that?
Speaker 13 (47:50):
That common law marriage? When you're with some play for
X amount of years and you've gone through the up
and downs. You know, Kershaw had a chance, you know,
Kurtsh I had a chance to leave us at one
point for back home, but he chose to stay home
with us in LA And I think, you know, growing
up I was, I was a freshman in high school
when he started off, and just you know, maybe prisoner
of the moment, but everything that he's done with us
(48:11):
a longevity. Like we said, you know, Cofax looking at
his staff, never got to see him play, but I
think just you know, the workouse he was probably what
led to what you know, ended his career. But Kershall overall,
I think means a lot to us through the ups
and downs, his vulnerability, you know, his giving back to
the community, everything that he's done for the city and
for the team has been very unselfish and you know
(48:34):
we're forever indebted to him.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Kershaw would go, yeah, I appreciate that. Where it ended, man,
that was that was a great comment man about on
and off the field with with Clayton Kershaw and his
beautiful wife Ellen and what they do for the community
and what they've done for Dodger Nation here all over
the country and in fact all over the world. If
you really follow Clayton Kershaw, you understand he does a
(48:57):
lot of work in Africa, He does a lot of
work around the world, around the globe, and uses his influence,
uses his his dollars, and puts his money where his
mouth is. So I'm a great humanitarian.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I like that marriage call too, and sickness and in
health and world series wins and in postseason implosions he's
ours baby.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Oh yes, we got to get to it too, because
you know, it's all about that dollar, dollar bill, y'all,
dollar dollar bill, y'all.
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