September 19, 2025 • 34 mins
Jack Harris from the LA Times hops on to talk about Clayton Kershaw's legacy as he gets set for his final regular season start at Dodger Stadium. Jaxson Dart misinterprets a message from Eli Manning.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, yes, we keep it moving on a Friday. We
don't care Friday. That's what it is. We don't care Friday.
But we do care. Actually, if you really want to
dial into it, we do care about the day. Today
is a very very special day because it's the last
day you will see Clayton Kershaw pitch a regular season
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game at Dodger Stadium. King Kurshi, that's pretty incredible. I mean,
it's been so long at him that I just it
just feels weird coming off my tongue.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You don't remember the Dodgers without him immediately. It's just
obviously some do more than others, but many people grew
up knowing that every five or six days, Clayton Kershaw
is going to take them out.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Double deuce, double deuce. All right, let's bring on our buddy,
Jack Harris from the time is going to talk more
about the Dodgers and Clayton Kershaw. Jack. Welcome to the
show Man, Thanks for joining us on a Friday. A
big are we doing, guys? We are doing good man. Hey, Hey, Jack,
did you did you see this coming? I mean, and
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I know a lot of folks in the inner circle
and some folks close around The Dodgers knew this was happening,
but they kept it pretty close to the best until
he actually announced it. Did you have a sense that
this was going to be it for him? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I mean I think there were all along this year
it kind of made sense, you know, the way he
was pitching, the fact that he was finally kind of
having one more of these just really not only good
but important seasons on a contending team. I always felt
that if they won't if they were to win the
World Series this year, that would definitely be it. I
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did kind of wonder, you know, if there was going
to be a part of him that the way he
pitched this year, maybe, and if they didn't win, maybe
he thought, hey, you know I can I can still contribute,
I can come back again. But you know, they were
little hints. His family has been around a lot. You know,
when you see him in Pittsburgh, you start to go, okay,
maybe there's maybe there's something going on here. What I
(02:08):
didn't expect was for, uh, the announcement to kind of
play out this way.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Even Freddie Freeman was joking yesterday that, you know, he
had known for a month that Clayton Kershell was going
to retire, but he figured he just wouldn't tell anybody
and then would announce it in the off season. So
the fact that you know, he he did it this
way to set up this moment tonight, which I think
is going to be just a really cool scene at
Dodger Stadium, is a cool way to do It. Probably
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wasn't what I was expecting, but you know, you saw
yesterday just the the reaction that the news got. I mean,
you look at the excitement around this game tonight. It's
gonna create a very cool moment for a guy who
obviously has been so much to this franchise for so
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long and and kind of gives I think the fan
base a chance to to recognize him before they get
into the pressures of the postseason.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Jack with him at the podium yesterday, it struck me
when he said, it's not a sad day, but it
is an emotional one. Was there something that was especially
poignant that Kershaw said yesterday to you?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I Mean, one of the things I thought that was
interesting is, you know, he's talking about how, yeah, I'll
miss the game, but that's going to be okay. You know,
it's the little moments behind the scenes that are really
special and that he was going to miss the most,
which is something you know a lot of athletes will
say when they retire. But I think for a guy
like this, who we think so much about through the
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lens of what he does on the field, how he
prepares for his starts, the competitiveness with which he goes
about his routine and his process, it is that the
moments behind the scenes, the grind of it all, the
camaraderie he feels in the clubhouse, the shared pursuit to
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try to come together as a team and do something
special that is difficult to replace. And as part of
the reason why, you know, as much as he didn't
want to go out pitching below a certain level that
he thought he was capable of, I think he he also,
you know, still felt like he could be part of
something like that, that he could add something with his experience,
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but also just be you know, enjoy being in that
place for six months over a summer where every single
day you're at the ballpark, you're seeing the same guys,
you're going through the highs and lows of a season,
And it just struck me the way, you know, anytime
he addressed his teammates like that was what was making
him most emotional yesterday. I think speaks to kind of
the things that he valued in the game and in
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his career and part of what's made him such a
beloved figure, you know, not just to the fan base,
but to the organization and the people that have been
teammates with him, who have coached him, who have been
around him. The value he brings as a guy in
the clubhouses is something that he's probably going to be
remembered by as much as anything.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, and you know, for me, you know, guys do
it in their own way and do it in different ways.
When in terms of retiring, I thought it was extremely
courageous for him to announce it the day before he
starts his last game at Dodger Stadium, because, as we
all know, it could go either way, right, it could
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go extremely good, it could go bad. Who knows how
it's gonna go. As opposed to pitch the game and
then say that was it, that was the last one.
And Adam mentioned earlier that maybe it was giving certain
fans or getting people enough time to realize that this
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is going to be the last one. So I'm thinking
about the fans more so than what outcome may happen.
But if it goes bad, it's like, Okay, don't retire yet,
played we need some more. And for him, you know,
for him, does he want you know, a bad outing
to be his last outing at Dodger Stadium. It's like
he didn't play it safe and go I'll do it
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after the fact that when I have a good outing
then now so I'll say I'm done.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, I mean, And that's one of the reasons why
I was a little surprised that played out this way.
You know, he did mention that his wife Ellen kind
of encouraged him to do it this way. I think
what it speaks to is like if you look back
at his whole Dodger career and especially before they won
that World Series in twenty twenty, and the complicated nature
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of you know, what it was like to be a
Dodger fan of that time and trying to obviously appreciate
the greatness that he provided year and year out, but
also grappling with all of the postseason disappointments, which you know,
I think more times unfairly unfairly than not, got placed
upon his shoulders, right, you know, obviously the postseason, there
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were a lot of disappointing moments, regardless of the fact
that he was pitching on short rest or coming out
of the bullpen, or pitching when you know, he had
thrown two hundred and fifty innings in the regular season
and maybe his body wasn't feeling great, but he always
took the ball. And to me, like the cool part
or the unique part about the way his career is
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ending now is that you just you don't see or
think about many athletes who go through such extreme highs
and lows in their career with one team and with
one fan base, who then come out on the other
side of it with multiple championships. With this, you know,
I mean so much of like the reputation of Clayton Kershaw,
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like the irony of it is. It's all of those
failures that in the way he responded to them that
kind of have stealed his reputation. Now, is this resilient
guy who kept going every year, who kept trying to
find ways to get better, who kept wanting to come
back and pitch for the Dodgers, and finally did kind
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of finish his career with the kind of success that
had been alluding to him for so long and to
have a moment like that's going to be the whole
like subtext to tonight, right, is that whole two decades
the Dodger fans have had watching him, cheering him at times,
being frustrated by him, but ultimately, you know, I think
really feeling appreciative to what he's given the franchise to
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have a moment where that can all be kind of
expressed where every time he comes out on the mount
tonight it's going to be a scene and an ovation,
and you know, it's difficult to even imagine what it's
going to be like when he exits for the last time.
I think it's cool that he's going to get that moment,
that the fans are going to get that moment. And yeah,
I mean it's a big game, like this is still
an important game for the Dodgers trying to close out
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a division title. But but Clayton Kershaw's pitching a lot
of big moments before. I don't worry about the emotion
being too much for him and I you know, personally,
like I haven't felt this much anticipation come into the
ballpark in a long time, just to see what the
atmosphere is going to be like, and what those kind
of moments between him and the crowd are going to
feel like.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, Jack, and we talked about it a little bit
earlier with just him always facing the music when he
did come up short and not running and hiding. What
a great professional he is and what a great example
he is, and you mentioned it there. How do you
reconcile sometimes that obvious greatness of a player with the
complications of those highs and lows. To me, it makes
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him a little bit more relatable and in some ways
it just makes him more memorable. And I know fans
have been through some painful moments with him, but also
they've ridden the highs as well.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Some of that stuff always felt like bad luck.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And you mentioned, you know, him pitching on short rest
or going one inning too long, not taking him out
in the seventh that was the issue for a while,
or it was a certain team that had his number.
Just how would you kind of characterize his lack of
postseason six even amid some amazing moments as well in
his career.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, I think that's the
thing that when you look at his career and the
reasons why he commands so much respect from people in baseball.
It's because of all of those moments, in the way
that he responded to them, the way that he continued
to come back, and how you know, he ultimately played
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a really integral part and finally helping the team win
a World Series. Like, I think people forget just how
good he was in that twenty twenty season, both in
the regular season and then in the playoffs when he
went four and one with like a two to three
er or something. It may I think the way that
his career is ending now like all the more special.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You know, this is somebody who had to endure a
lot on the field and a lot of disappointments and
a lot of failures, and not everybody would have responded
to it in the way that he did. And again,
I think that's why, you know, when when the announcement
became public yesterday, that was the thing that so many
teammates and people around the team pointed to, is look,
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on top of the obvious greatness that he brought as
a pitcher and the all time numbers and the Hall
of Fame resume, the thing that they admired most was
how he handled all of that and what he would
do to put his body on the line for the
team and how you know, eventually it led to these
really special moments that they've had the last couple of years,
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even last year, you know, when he didn't get to
take part in the postseason, but he's around during the
whole playoff run. He's at the forade, he's screaming, you know,
he's yelling at the crowd, how he's a Dodger for life.
Like those moments to me are all the more special
because of all of the heartbreak that led up to it,
and again kind of speaks to the whole like character
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part of what he brought as a player and as
a Dodger that I think, in some ways now when
you look back on it, I think almost sort of elevates,
you know, what he meant to this team and just
the way that people are going to remember his career
because it wasn't always great and it didn't always go perfect,
but they didn't stop him from still making the kind
of impact that he did.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, that's a great point, Jack, because a lot of athletes,
a lot of folks when they retired, they played the
safe route where they'll do it in the offseason. Oh,
they'll do it in a moment where you know a
lot of them don't do it when they're on top.
But a lot of people they won't put themselves out
there like that. And he fully realizes that he is not,
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like he's not the ace of the staff anymore. There's
three guys ahead of him in terms of ace of
the staff despite the type of year that he's had.
But yet he's still willing to put himself out there.
And I think that, to Adam's point, is why he's
so relatable. You know, we talked about this earlier because
Bill Plaski wrote that he is the greatest Dodger ever.
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What are your thoughts on where he ranks as as
a Dodger and is he the greatest Dodger ever?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, I mean I think, uh a kind of riff
from Plastiki's calumn. I think when you look at like
especially like La Dodgers, he's he's certainly a singular figure.
You know, how you want to debate greatness or the
best obviously you can have a lot of different views
on that, and I think when it comes to, you know,
being the best Dodger ever, the best Dodger pitcher ever,
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and you're comparing him in Cofax, Like obviously it's a
they're very different cases. When you look at Cofax is
just you know, sheer dominance, especially in the playoffs. First again,
the ups and downs, the kersha I had to go through.
But I think, you know, the thing that makes him
different to me is the longevity piece. Is the fact
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that there were like all these highs and lows. So
while statistically you can maybe make cases for other guys,
you know, I look at him as the greatest Dodger
or the greatest La Dodger ever, for the fact of,
you know, what he represented to the team at a
time of unparalleled success and franchise history. How you know
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what he kind of had to endure and take on
and and you know how he responded to again, like
all these the failures that that happened over the course
of his career. Like to me, that kind of separates
him in a way that when you look at the
history of this franchise, like there are a few guys
that that have have gone through that kind of path
and still put together the kind of all around uh,
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you know, high level greatness. When he was in his prime,
the longevity of it, the impact he's made on the
team at a time when again, like the Dodgers have
never been this good for this long. So I think
when you look at it in totality, you know, as
far as impactfulness, it's it's hard to it's hard to
think of somebody who's who's left the kind of mark
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on the franchise like Clayton Kershaw has.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, flawed, but actionist and also a master of his
craft out there we saw it all with him. And
not to move past tonight and get too far ahead
of things, Jack, but what could his role be in
the postseason? How can he contribute this this year?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
You know, there's so many questions about how this Dodger
playoff roster and pitching staff is going to look that
it's somewhat up in the air, But I think that,
you know, the way Dave Roberts has been saying it
is how I guess it's going to play out, which is,
you know, he's somebody that the team trusts and has
shown it time and again this year when they've needed
big pitching performances, when they've needed to stop losing streaks,
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when they've needed somebody to help set a tone at
a down point of the year. He's been able to
deliver in those moments. So it's probably not going to
be in the starting rotation, or at least anywhere near
the front of it. He's not going to be making
a start in the wildcard round. You know, maybe if
they go on a deeper run, there could be a
game maybe in like an NLCS depending on the state
of the pitching staff, where you know, they might need
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him to come in and make a spot start or
something like that. But I think his value is somebody
who can come out of the bullpen and give you
a couple of innings and help shorten the game, especially
if the other relievers are struggling.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Again.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Having somebody that on a team right now where they
don't have a lot of trustworthy arms beyond those three
or four guys at the front of the rotation, you know,
having him around to help come in and in various
different spots at various different points of the series, I
think is still going to make a lot of sense.
So I think you'll see a role for him, probably
coming out of the bullpen, probably being as like a
multi inning option. A lot of it will depend again
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on how things kind of shake out over these last
couple of weeks. And it's no guarantee that you know,
he will be on a postseason roster, you know, especially
if you think about like a wildcard round where maybe
they don't need a full allotment of pitchers since it's
a three game series.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So we'll see.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
But if they're you know, if you're trying to figure out,
you know who you're who the thirteen pitchers are that
you trust to get outs in the playoffs, I still
think he's in that group. And if they go on
a long run, I think that there's going to be
moments where they're going to need him to come in
and pitch.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Well. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Well you pitched well
for us today, Jack, I appreciate it. Man, thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, thank you, guys, many.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Thanks to Jack Harris times. I always dialed in Adam.
He always knows his stuff. Man. Hey, listen, Adam, I
got a favor to ask you. Man.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Are we still on that?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, we're still on that. I got a favor to
ask you, and I got to ask you that favor
when we come back.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Speak to my.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
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Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, a beautiful Friday. Anything goes, including getting a snack
during the meal and then the break.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Hey, when else were we supposed to do it?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Come on right exactly?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I got my bag energy drink that I've been putting
down the children.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You've been killing it. You've got like seven of them.
You've been drinking since the show started. So so Adam.
Some interesting news came out about my man, Jackson Dart,
who is the backup quarterback in New York with the Giants.
And you know, Eli Manning, who obviously is the future
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Hall of Famer, won two Super Bowls with the Giants,
and ironically they both went to Ole Miss, and so
there's that connection. And Jackson Dart, who started his career
at USC, I might say, and then resurrected his career
at Old Miss with Lane Kiffin. Hey hey, hey, hey, hey,
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but so much that he was a top ten pick
in the draft, went to the Giants and as now
backing up Russell Wilson is just it feels like a
matter of time before he takes over. But they created
a bond. Eli Manning and Jackson Dart, both of them
from Old Miss and then playing for the Giants, and
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Eli I think started a relationship or at least they connected.
And Eli told Jackson, hey, listen, man, if you need anything,
I'm always here for you, being a fellow alum of
Old Miss and quarterback with the Giants. So any anything
you need, anything you need, I am I'm here for you. Yes,
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mentor to mentee, you know, and sometimes Adams these things
can come from one person thinking this is what I
meant and another person interpreting that maybe this is what
you meant. Let's take a listen to the sound.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I told Jackson if you have any questions about anything,
you know, I'm here for you, you know, football related or
just you know, when you're deciding you know, what town
you want to live in or that or also his
training camp. Uh he calls me, you know one days, Hey,
you got you got a minute? I'm like yeah, of course.
So you know, such a similar situation we're in, like
you know, bringing in a veteran like like Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
They've yeah, sure, like maybe this is dealing with that
or something. Just can you give me a reservation at four?
Charles tonight at six, I was like, no, no, no, that's
not part of the deal. When I said, I'm having
to help out, Like I'm not doing that.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Guy, you have to earn the right to call and
get your reservation, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
All right, So he's on with Peter Schrager there, I believe. Yeah,
I think something was lost in translation with I'll help.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
You anything, rook you know, listen if you need help
with the training camp and how to deal with training camp,
or you know, you know, just the nuances of defenses
in the NFL, as you you know, a college quarterback
coming up there, or just you know, areas to live
that makes it comfortable for you to get back and
forth from the facility.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You know, I can give you some pointers on on
where I lived when I was a rookie and what
you know, and hey, can you get me into that
popular steakhouse in town? Yeah? Right, I just need it.
I need a reservation for four Can you make that
happen Fridays? Either, Eli's like, you know, I'm not your concierge.
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I'm not your I'm not your butler. I'm not your
marketing person. I was talking about you know, you want
to read that cover two on third down. I can
help you with that, but I'm not. Yeah, you calling
me for reservations, but this is use open table, whatever
you want.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You know, I will say this, I take umbrage with
this with Eli because he said, you got to earn that.
You got to earn that, make a name for yourself,
and then you can go and will never have to
pay for a stake in this city. Again, what it's like,
wasn't Eli making demands to get moved to the New
York Giants when he was drafted.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
That's different. That's different different. That is different than you
know you call in the veteran won two Super Bowls,
hey man, make me a reservation jet. First of all.
First of all, Jackson Dart is again top ten pick
in the NFL draft. It looks like at some point
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he's going to be the quarterback of the New York Giants,
which is a It's a big deal. There's very few
places that carry that kind of weight when you play
quarterback for him, and the Giants are one of those.
You get the key to the city when you do that.
He had a he had an unbelievable successful preseason. Everybody
knows who he is, and you're telling me his agent
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or anybody surrounding him can't make that call for the reservation.
You hold that like hard for something that you really
really need, not to just make me a reservation. Yeah,
you know, come on, man, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That just shows he's not ready to take the rains
yet from Russell Wilson, who thought he had a game
winning throw against Dallas last week. By the way, Russell
Wilson might have a little bit of game left. Roddy,
I got to ask you, you've been in a position
like this before where you're mentoring a young guy, maybe
you're still playing.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Maybe it's Jake dell Ome.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
He takes your spot and now he's asking about a
steakhouse or where he should be eating in North Carolina.
You got you got any examples like that?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, listen, Carolina is easy, that's not that's that's no
big deal. We're talking LA New York and so yes,
I have I have taken a few LA USC quarterbacks
under my wings, or quarterbacks that reside in La under
my wings and and suggested a few spots and made
a few phone calls for them. And but at the
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same time I got to know them a little bit
first before they made that ask, and I was usually
the one that offered it up. Say hey, listen, there's
a new spot in town. I know the owner. And
there's a new hot place you know, whether you want
to go eat or there's a club in town that
Hey I can. I can make a phone call from
whenever you need that. I got you.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
We'll take care of you. Yeah, drop my name, but.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Don't don't do that. That's your first ask. Eli reaches
out and gives the Olive Branch. Hey, whatever you need.
And Eli's thinking anything you need football related? And he
comes up and says, well, I, uh yeah, does need
that reservation over there for you know, probably was not
for two people either, It's probably I need a reservation
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for twelve, you know at the steakhouse.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah right, he's making this rimaculous.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I need that.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, Hey, you can ask me for a table at
the Wiener Snittle across the street over here in.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Burbank and maybe drop my name.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You can get an extra corn dog or something that
might help him out. That's that's the best I can do.
If you use my name, Rodney, I got nothing for you.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Sorry, Jackson, I get it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I get it. But man, that is and now it's
out there. Now it's out there. That that's what he
asks for.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
It's kind of a bad look. It is for a
young guy. I get it. You're in the limelight, You're
in New York.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
You want to live it up in the city. But
maybe squash a grape on the field first.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yes, yes, fight, fight to win that starting job. Still
be focused on that.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yes, pray for Russell Wilson's demid on the field, like
ease it in.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
It's the it's the seventh request. And when you're talking
to Eli privately, hey, man, yeah, I'm just I want
to find the right place so I can get to
work in seven minutes that I don't have to deal
with any traffic. I mean, I know they train in Jersey,
so it's easy. The neighborhoods around there. What's what's good?
Oh yeah, my parents are coming up. What's the best
closest hotel from from my parents to stay at? And
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then you go down that list and then maybe you
know number seven or number nine is Oh man, listen,
I heard about this great restaurant. You know, any connections
over there that you can get me in, because you know,
my uncle's coming in town and he just got married,
so I want to do something special for him, but
not out of the gate. Hey, hook me up with
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that restaurant, give me into that hot spot over there
and on Broadway.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
How about Eli?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
How did you stay so poised during those moments in
the Super Bowl right and make it improblem in the past.
So David tyree that he caught it next to his
helmet and Rodney Harrison was there and couldn't take it away.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Ball he threw on the sideline, you know. And the
Championship game or the Super Bowl against the Patriots, you know,
come on, that was on the money. I don't get
me in one spot. How did you you know, with
the calmness and you threw that pass? Come on, man,
give me that, give me that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Tell me how to be the anti Peyton Manning where
I'm not that great in the regular season, but I
step up the playoffs like Eli would do once in
a while.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
How do I beat the Patriots?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
How do I become a Hall of Famer off of
two games basically, I mean those that's the insight you
want from Eli Manning.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I would think, yeah, yeah, that is the insight. You know,
reservations are easy to come back. I'm sure Jackson Dart
would have a problem just using Jackson Dart to get
into any kind of restaurant at it.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know what else, He's probably the type of guy
that wants that steak cooked well done at the nicest
steakhouse ever.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
He ain't ready for that rare.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
He's gonna offend the chef.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Yeah, rookie mistake.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
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Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah right, that was a movie too. Thank God It's Friday.
That was really good. Back in the day.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Man and Alis a radio showdown.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Uh huh it is Rodney Pete. Adam Austlin All good, Hey, Adam,
I do want to get your final thoughts on kersh
All to Night at some point. But no, no, no,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna throw you back into
that fire while things are kind of cooled off a
little bit. Yes, we're out of time. We can't talk
(28:45):
about it. But I do want to touch on U
c l a real quick because the they're athletic director.
Uh and I always mispronounced his name Mark Martin Jerreman
on Martin Jarman. Yeah, decided he wanted to come in
the USUL is off this week. They're zero and three
(29:07):
and not look good at all. They fired Deshaun Watts,
Deshaun Foster and but he he came in and said, listen, coaches,
players take the day off. We're going to go on
a bonding bowling trip. And so no practice though they
went and was Mookie. Mookie was not there. They needed
(29:29):
him on a team bonding uh excursion. I should say,
we're not a course, we're going canceled practice. Now. My
thing was when Kevin and I talked about this earlier,
is it the is it the athletic Director's place to
come in and tell the new interim coach you know,
(29:50):
this is what we're gonna do with the football team,
or should he stay out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Ah, well, if you want to get in his good
graces and not just be the interim head coach but
event get the job, you might want to listen to
a jarmin As saying here. But I do think it's
probably overstepping just a little bit here. You know, you
got the bye week at the right time, which is
probably why they made the move. Now it makes sense,
but this is a football program in complete disarray. I
(30:20):
don't mind the sentiment of all right, let's cool off
for a second, let's reset, let's try to build up
some camaraderie with the guys, and we just got to
find a way to get some wins here, like a win,
like maybe get to two wins this season, because things
look that bad for them.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
So I don't think it's the.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Worst idea, a cooling off period after everything that's gone
down the last three weeks, with the expectations they had.
And while you can say, okay, it's UCLA, what expectations
should they have had? I don't know what they paid
two million for Nico to bring him in and for
them to completely lay an egg to start this season
and they're not even big ten play yet. I mean,
(31:03):
it's only gonna get tougher from here. So yes, maybe
it's the right time to just a little R and R.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But what does that say to the to the new coach,
right they obviously the Shawn has gone and they elevated
a long time assistant coach to be the interim coach.
I just felt like they they needed to allow him,
the interim coach, to say, listen, guys, hey, we're gonna
take a break. We're gonna get away from it all.
(31:32):
There's too many, you know, all this stuff going on,
a lot of pressure on all of us. Let's just
let's cancel practice today. But let's go for an outing
and have a you know, and bowl a little bit.
But leave it to the coach to do it, as
opposed to the athletic director coming in and say, guys,
stop practice. We're not gonna have practice, We're gonna go bowling.
(31:53):
Maybe just feels like it's just overstepping a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Maybe it was metaphorical, like, hey, there's gonna be some
strikes and gutters. You got to deal with that in life. Wow,
we're in the gutter right now with this team, but
we can get out of it.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
We can get some turkeys up there on the screen.
We go balling here. You do want to embolden your guys.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
You do want to be able to show faith and
confidence and the guys you're putting in charge now and
not feeling like you're one upping them. So the players
then say, well, did you want us to do this
or was it the athletic director, And then they're questioning
your power in these That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's the thing I'm worried about. It's still early in
the season, and yes and no, it's gone ugly the
first three games, but you still got what nine games left,
and this is a coach that's going to lead you forward.
Let him be. Let him be the guy. That's all
I'm saying is just let him be the guy. Let
him make the decision. So the players feel like, Okay,
he's coaching us and he's not getting any instructions of
(32:50):
who to play, how to practice from the athletic director
or the school. He is going to do his job.
So as a player, I'm just wondering how that would
how that plays out with that particular team. All right,
before we get out of here, Adam Tonight, Clayton Kershaw
last appearance as a in the regular season for him,
(33:12):
just thoughts on Clayton going forward tonight and what it
looks like and how you feel about it.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I want to put like this. People know me from
NorCal up in Sacramento. I grew up a Giants fan.
It's sentimental to me tonight to the point where I think,
just like in Kobe's last game, I'll be rooting for
Clayton Kershaw against the Giants. Honestly, this is bigger than
just your fandom. This is in all time great and
(33:41):
I want to see the proper send off. And I
hope he puts up some k's and some zero's there
with the Giants.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Of the plate. Yeah, that place is gonna be rocking hopefully. Yeah,
he gets to go six seven innings and just rocks it.
Dodgers give him some run support so he can celebrate
it as he walked all when Dave Robert comes to
get it and comes to get him. I think it
could be a magical night at Dodger Stadium tonight. Enjoy
(34:08):
the game, Clayton Kershaw. We love you man, and you're
not done yet, but it's all good. Adam, thank you,
thank you for sitting in for Fred last minute today.
Appreciate it. Brother.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I love you, Ronnie, thanks for having me. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Ronnie Kevin, thank you so much. Everybody, have a fantastic weekend.
Go Dodgers.
Oh, yes, we keep it moving on a Friday. We
don't care Friday. That's what it is. We don't care Friday.
But we do care. Actually, if you really want to
dial into it, we do care about the day. Today
is a very very special day because it's the last
day you will see Clayton Kershaw pitch a regular season
(00:23):
game at Dodger Stadium. King Kurshi, that's pretty incredible. I mean,
it's been so long at him that I just it
just feels weird coming off my tongue.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You don't remember the Dodgers without him immediately. It's just
obviously some do more than others, but many people grew
up knowing that every five or six days, Clayton Kershaw
is going to take them out.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Double deuce, double deuce. All right, let's bring on our buddy,
Jack Harris from the time is going to talk more
about the Dodgers and Clayton Kershaw. Jack. Welcome to the
show Man, Thanks for joining us on a Friday. A
big are we doing, guys? We are doing good man. Hey, Hey, Jack,
did you did you see this coming? I mean, and
(01:07):
I know a lot of folks in the inner circle
and some folks close around The Dodgers knew this was happening,
but they kept it pretty close to the best until
he actually announced it. Did you have a sense that
this was going to be it for him? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I mean I think there were all along this year
it kind of made sense, you know, the way he
was pitching, the fact that he was finally kind of
having one more of these just really not only good
but important seasons on a contending team. I always felt
that if they won't if they were to win the
World Series this year, that would definitely be it. I
(01:44):
did kind of wonder, you know, if there was going
to be a part of him that the way he
pitched this year, maybe, and if they didn't win, maybe
he thought, hey, you know I can I can still contribute,
I can come back again. But you know, they were
little hints. His family has been around a lot. You know,
when you see him in Pittsburgh, you start to go, okay,
maybe there's maybe there's something going on here. What I
(02:08):
didn't expect was for, uh, the announcement to kind of
play out this way.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Even Freddie Freeman was joking yesterday that, you know, he
had known for a month that Clayton Kershell was going
to retire, but he figured he just wouldn't tell anybody
and then would announce it in the off season. So
the fact that you know, he he did it this
way to set up this moment tonight, which I think
is going to be just a really cool scene at
Dodger Stadium, is a cool way to do It. Probably
(02:35):
wasn't what I was expecting, but you know, you saw
yesterday just the the reaction that the news got. I mean,
you look at the excitement around this game tonight. It's
gonna create a very cool moment for a guy who
obviously has been so much to this franchise for so
(02:56):
long and and kind of gives I think the fan
base a chance to to recognize him before they get
into the pressures of the postseason.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Jack with him at the podium yesterday, it struck me
when he said, it's not a sad day, but it
is an emotional one. Was there something that was especially
poignant that Kershaw said yesterday to you?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I Mean, one of the things I thought that was
interesting is, you know, he's talking about how, yeah, I'll
miss the game, but that's going to be okay. You know,
it's the little moments behind the scenes that are really
special and that he was going to miss the most,
which is something you know a lot of athletes will
say when they retire. But I think for a guy
like this, who we think so much about through the
(03:38):
lens of what he does on the field, how he
prepares for his starts, the competitiveness with which he goes
about his routine and his process, it is that the
moments behind the scenes, the grind of it all, the
camaraderie he feels in the clubhouse, the shared pursuit to
(03:59):
try to come together as a team and do something
special that is difficult to replace. And as part of
the reason why, you know, as much as he didn't
want to go out pitching below a certain level that
he thought he was capable of, I think he he also,
you know, still felt like he could be part of
something like that, that he could add something with his experience,
(04:20):
but also just be you know, enjoy being in that
place for six months over a summer where every single
day you're at the ballpark, you're seeing the same guys,
you're going through the highs and lows of a season,
And it just struck me the way, you know, anytime
he addressed his teammates like that was what was making
him most emotional yesterday. I think speaks to kind of
the things that he valued in the game and in
(04:42):
his career and part of what's made him such a
beloved figure, you know, not just to the fan base,
but to the organization and the people that have been
teammates with him, who have coached him, who have been
around him. The value he brings as a guy in
the clubhouses is something that he's probably going to be
remembered by as much as anything.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, and you know, for me, you know, guys do
it in their own way and do it in different ways.
When in terms of retiring, I thought it was extremely
courageous for him to announce it the day before he
starts his last game at Dodger Stadium, because, as we
all know, it could go either way, right, it could
(05:26):
go extremely good, it could go bad. Who knows how
it's gonna go. As opposed to pitch the game and
then say that was it, that was the last one.
And Adam mentioned earlier that maybe it was giving certain
fans or getting people enough time to realize that this
(05:50):
is going to be the last one. So I'm thinking
about the fans more so than what outcome may happen.
But if it goes bad, it's like, Okay, don't retire yet,
played we need some more. And for him, you know,
for him, does he want you know, a bad outing
to be his last outing at Dodger Stadium. It's like
he didn't play it safe and go I'll do it
(06:12):
after the fact that when I have a good outing
then now so I'll say I'm done.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, I mean, And that's one of the reasons why
I was a little surprised that played out this way.
You know, he did mention that his wife Ellen kind
of encouraged him to do it this way. I think
what it speaks to is like if you look back
at his whole Dodger career and especially before they won
that World Series in twenty twenty, and the complicated nature
(06:39):
of you know, what it was like to be a
Dodger fan of that time and trying to obviously appreciate
the greatness that he provided year and year out, but
also grappling with all of the postseason disappointments, which you know,
I think more times unfairly unfairly than not, got placed
upon his shoulders, right, you know, obviously the postseason, there
(07:00):
were a lot of disappointing moments, regardless of the fact
that he was pitching on short rest or coming out
of the bullpen, or pitching when you know, he had
thrown two hundred and fifty innings in the regular season
and maybe his body wasn't feeling great, but he always
took the ball. And to me, like the cool part
or the unique part about the way his career is
(07:22):
ending now is that you just you don't see or
think about many athletes who go through such extreme highs
and lows in their career with one team and with
one fan base, who then come out on the other
side of it with multiple championships. With this, you know,
I mean so much of like the reputation of Clayton Kershaw,
(07:43):
like the irony of it is. It's all of those
failures that in the way he responded to them that
kind of have stealed his reputation. Now, is this resilient
guy who kept going every year, who kept trying to
find ways to get better, who kept wanting to come
back and pitch for the Dodgers, and finally did kind
(08:04):
of finish his career with the kind of success that
had been alluding to him for so long and to
have a moment like that's going to be the whole
like subtext to tonight, right, is that whole two decades
the Dodger fans have had watching him, cheering him at times,
being frustrated by him, but ultimately, you know, I think
really feeling appreciative to what he's given the franchise to
(08:25):
have a moment where that can all be kind of
expressed where every time he comes out on the mount
tonight it's going to be a scene and an ovation,
and you know, it's difficult to even imagine what it's
going to be like when he exits for the last time.
I think it's cool that he's going to get that moment,
that the fans are going to get that moment. And yeah,
I mean it's a big game, like this is still
an important game for the Dodgers trying to close out
(08:46):
a division title. But but Clayton Kershaw's pitching a lot
of big moments before. I don't worry about the emotion
being too much for him and I you know, personally,
like I haven't felt this much anticipation come into the
ballpark in a long time, just to see what the
atmosphere is going to be like, and what those kind
of moments between him and the crowd are going to
feel like.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, Jack, and we talked about it a little bit
earlier with just him always facing the music when he
did come up short and not running and hiding. What
a great professional he is and what a great example
he is, and you mentioned it there. How do you
reconcile sometimes that obvious greatness of a player with the
complications of those highs and lows. To me, it makes
(09:29):
him a little bit more relatable and in some ways
it just makes him more memorable. And I know fans
have been through some painful moments with him, but also
they've ridden the highs as well.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Some of that stuff always felt like bad luck.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And you mentioned, you know, him pitching on short rest
or going one inning too long, not taking him out
in the seventh that was the issue for a while,
or it was a certain team that had his number.
Just how would you kind of characterize his lack of
postseason six even amid some amazing moments as well in
his career.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, I think that's the
thing that when you look at his career and the
reasons why he commands so much respect from people in baseball.
It's because of all of those moments, in the way
that he responded to them, the way that he continued
to come back, and how you know, he ultimately played
(10:27):
a really integral part and finally helping the team win
a World Series. Like, I think people forget just how
good he was in that twenty twenty season, both in
the regular season and then in the playoffs when he
went four and one with like a two to three
er or something. It may I think the way that
his career is ending now like all the more special.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You know, this is somebody who had to endure a
lot on the field and a lot of disappointments and
a lot of failures, and not everybody would have responded
to it in the way that he did. And again,
I think that's why, you know, when when the announcement
became public yesterday, that was the thing that so many
teammates and people around the team pointed to, is look,
(11:11):
on top of the obvious greatness that he brought as
a pitcher and the all time numbers and the Hall
of Fame resume, the thing that they admired most was
how he handled all of that and what he would
do to put his body on the line for the
team and how you know, eventually it led to these
really special moments that they've had the last couple of years,
(11:31):
even last year, you know, when he didn't get to
take part in the postseason, but he's around during the
whole playoff run. He's at the forade, he's screaming, you know,
he's yelling at the crowd, how he's a Dodger for life.
Like those moments to me are all the more special
because of all of the heartbreak that led up to it,
and again kind of speaks to the whole like character
(11:53):
part of what he brought as a player and as
a Dodger that I think, in some ways now when
you look back on it, I think almost sort of elevates,
you know, what he meant to this team and just
the way that people are going to remember his career
because it wasn't always great and it didn't always go perfect,
but they didn't stop him from still making the kind
of impact that he did.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, that's a great point, Jack, because a lot of athletes,
a lot of folks when they retired, they played the
safe route where they'll do it in the offseason. Oh,
they'll do it in a moment where you know a
lot of them don't do it when they're on top.
But a lot of people they won't put themselves out
there like that. And he fully realizes that he is not,
(12:37):
like he's not the ace of the staff anymore. There's
three guys ahead of him in terms of ace of
the staff despite the type of year that he's had.
But yet he's still willing to put himself out there.
And I think that, to Adam's point, is why he's
so relatable. You know, we talked about this earlier because
Bill Plaski wrote that he is the greatest Dodger ever.
(13:01):
What are your thoughts on where he ranks as as
a Dodger and is he the greatest Dodger ever?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, I mean I think, uh a kind of riff
from Plastiki's calumn. I think when you look at like
especially like La Dodgers, he's he's certainly a singular figure.
You know, how you want to debate greatness or the
best obviously you can have a lot of different views
on that, and I think when it comes to, you know,
being the best Dodger ever, the best Dodger pitcher ever,
(13:29):
and you're comparing him in Cofax, Like obviously it's a
they're very different cases. When you look at Cofax is
just you know, sheer dominance, especially in the playoffs. First again,
the ups and downs, the kersha I had to go through.
But I think, you know, the thing that makes him
different to me is the longevity piece. Is the fact
(13:49):
that there were like all these highs and lows. So
while statistically you can maybe make cases for other guys,
you know, I look at him as the greatest Dodger
or the greatest La Dodger ever, for the fact of,
you know, what he represented to the team at a
time of unparalleled success and franchise history. How you know
(14:11):
what he kind of had to endure and take on
and and you know how he responded to again, like
all these the failures that that happened over the course
of his career. Like to me, that kind of separates
him in a way that when you look at the
history of this franchise, like there are a few guys
that that have have gone through that kind of path
and still put together the kind of all around uh,
(14:34):
you know, high level greatness. When he was in his prime,
the longevity of it, the impact he's made on the
team at a time when again, like the Dodgers have
never been this good for this long. So I think
when you look at it in totality, you know, as
far as impactfulness, it's it's hard to it's hard to
think of somebody who's who's left the kind of mark
(14:55):
on the franchise like Clayton Kershaw has.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, flawed, but actionist and also a master of his
craft out there we saw it all with him. And
not to move past tonight and get too far ahead
of things, Jack, but what could his role be in
the postseason? How can he contribute this this year?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
You know, there's so many questions about how this Dodger
playoff roster and pitching staff is going to look that
it's somewhat up in the air, But I think that,
you know, the way Dave Roberts has been saying it
is how I guess it's going to play out, which is,
you know, he's somebody that the team trusts and has
shown it time and again this year when they've needed
big pitching performances, when they've needed to stop losing streaks,
(15:37):
when they've needed somebody to help set a tone at
a down point of the year. He's been able to
deliver in those moments. So it's probably not going to
be in the starting rotation, or at least anywhere near
the front of it. He's not going to be making
a start in the wildcard round. You know, maybe if
they go on a deeper run, there could be a
game maybe in like an NLCS depending on the state
of the pitching staff, where you know, they might need
(15:59):
him to come in and make a spot start or
something like that. But I think his value is somebody
who can come out of the bullpen and give you
a couple of innings and help shorten the game, especially
if the other relievers are struggling.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Again.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Having somebody that on a team right now where they
don't have a lot of trustworthy arms beyond those three
or four guys at the front of the rotation, you know,
having him around to help come in and in various
different spots at various different points of the series, I
think is still going to make a lot of sense.
So I think you'll see a role for him, probably
coming out of the bullpen, probably being as like a
multi inning option. A lot of it will depend again
(16:31):
on how things kind of shake out over these last
couple of weeks. And it's no guarantee that you know,
he will be on a postseason roster, you know, especially
if you think about like a wildcard round where maybe
they don't need a full allotment of pitchers since it's
a three game series.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So we'll see.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
But if they're you know, if you're trying to figure out,
you know who you're who the thirteen pitchers are that
you trust to get outs in the playoffs, I still
think he's in that group. And if they go on
a long run, I think that there's going to be
moments where they're going to need him to come in
and pitch.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Well. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Well you pitched well
for us today, Jack, I appreciate it. Man, thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, thank you, guys, many.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Thanks to Jack Harris times. I always dialed in Adam.
He always knows his stuff. Man. Hey, listen, Adam, I
got a favor to ask you. Man.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Are we still on that?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, we're still on that. I got a favor to
ask you, and I got to ask you that favor
when we come back.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Speak to my.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
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Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, a beautiful Friday. Anything goes, including getting a snack
during the meal and then the break.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Hey, when else were we supposed to do it?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Come on right exactly?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I got my bag energy drink that I've been putting
down the children.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You've been killing it. You've got like seven of them.
You've been drinking since the show started. So so Adam.
Some interesting news came out about my man, Jackson Dart,
who is the backup quarterback in New York with the Giants.
And you know, Eli Manning, who obviously is the future
(18:24):
Hall of Famer, won two Super Bowls with the Giants,
and ironically they both went to Ole Miss, and so
there's that connection. And Jackson Dart, who started his career
at USC, I might say, and then resurrected his career
at Old Miss with Lane Kiffin. Hey hey, hey, hey, hey,
(18:52):
but so much that he was a top ten pick
in the draft, went to the Giants and as now
backing up Russell Wilson is just it feels like a
matter of time before he takes over. But they created
a bond. Eli Manning and Jackson Dart, both of them
from Old Miss and then playing for the Giants, and
(19:12):
Eli I think started a relationship or at least they connected.
And Eli told Jackson, hey, listen, man, if you need anything,
I'm always here for you, being a fellow alum of
Old Miss and quarterback with the Giants. So any anything
you need, anything you need, I am I'm here for you. Yes,
(19:34):
mentor to mentee, you know, and sometimes Adams these things
can come from one person thinking this is what I
meant and another person interpreting that maybe this is what
you meant. Let's take a listen to the sound.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I told Jackson if you have any questions about anything,
you know, I'm here for you, you know, football related or
just you know, when you're deciding you know, what town
you want to live in or that or also his
training camp. Uh he calls me, you know one days, Hey,
you got you got a minute? I'm like yeah, of course.
So you know, such a similar situation we're in, like
you know, bringing in a veteran like like Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
They've yeah, sure, like maybe this is dealing with that
or something. Just can you give me a reservation at four?
Charles tonight at six, I was like, no, no, no, that's
not part of the deal. When I said, I'm having
to help out, Like I'm not doing that.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Guy, you have to earn the right to call and
get your reservation, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
All right, So he's on with Peter Schrager there, I believe. Yeah,
I think something was lost in translation with I'll help.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
You anything, rook you know, listen if you need help
with the training camp and how to deal with training camp,
or you know, you know, just the nuances of defenses
in the NFL, as you you know, a college quarterback
coming up there, or just you know, areas to live
that makes it comfortable for you to get back and
forth from the facility.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You know, I can give you some pointers on on
where I lived when I was a rookie and what
you know, and hey, can you get me into that
popular steakhouse in town? Yeah? Right, I just need it.
I need a reservation for four Can you make that
happen Fridays? Either, Eli's like, you know, I'm not your concierge.
(21:34):
I'm not your I'm not your butler. I'm not your
marketing person. I was talking about you know, you want
to read that cover two on third down. I can
help you with that, but I'm not. Yeah, you calling
me for reservations, but this is use open table, whatever
you want.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You know, I will say this, I take umbrage with
this with Eli because he said, you got to earn that.
You got to earn that, make a name for yourself,
and then you can go and will never have to
pay for a stake in this city. Again, what it's like,
wasn't Eli making demands to get moved to the New
York Giants when he was drafted.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
That's different. That's different different. That is different than you
know you call in the veteran won two Super Bowls,
hey man, make me a reservation jet. First of all.
First of all, Jackson Dart is again top ten pick
in the NFL draft. It looks like at some point
(22:31):
he's going to be the quarterback of the New York Giants,
which is a It's a big deal. There's very few
places that carry that kind of weight when you play
quarterback for him, and the Giants are one of those.
You get the key to the city when you do that.
He had a he had an unbelievable successful preseason. Everybody
knows who he is, and you're telling me his agent
(22:53):
or anybody surrounding him can't make that call for the reservation.
You hold that like hard for something that you really
really need, not to just make me a reservation. Yeah,
you know, come on, man, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That just shows he's not ready to take the rains
yet from Russell Wilson, who thought he had a game
winning throw against Dallas last week. By the way, Russell
Wilson might have a little bit of game left. Roddy,
I got to ask you, you've been in a position
like this before where you're mentoring a young guy, maybe
you're still playing.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Maybe it's Jake dell Ome.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
He takes your spot and now he's asking about a
steakhouse or where he should be eating in North Carolina.
You got you got any examples like that?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, listen, Carolina is easy, that's not that's that's no
big deal. We're talking LA New York and so yes,
I have I have taken a few LA USC quarterbacks
under my wings, or quarterbacks that reside in La under
my wings and and suggested a few spots and made
a few phone calls for them. And but at the
(24:01):
same time I got to know them a little bit
first before they made that ask, and I was usually
the one that offered it up. Say hey, listen, there's
a new spot in town. I know the owner. And
there's a new hot place you know, whether you want
to go eat or there's a club in town that
Hey I can. I can make a phone call from
whenever you need that. I got you.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
We'll take care of you. Yeah, drop my name, but.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Don't don't do that. That's your first ask. Eli reaches
out and gives the Olive Branch. Hey, whatever you need.
And Eli's thinking anything you need football related? And he
comes up and says, well, I, uh yeah, does need
that reservation over there for you know, probably was not
for two people either, It's probably I need a reservation
(24:46):
for twelve, you know at the steakhouse.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah right, he's making this rimaculous.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I need that.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, Hey, you can ask me for a table at
the Wiener Snittle across the street over here in.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Burbank and maybe drop my name.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You can get an extra corn dog or something that
might help him out. That's that's the best I can do.
If you use my name, Rodney, I got nothing for you.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Sorry, Jackson, I get it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I get it. But man, that is and now it's
out there. Now it's out there. That that's what he
asks for.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
It's kind of a bad look. It is for a
young guy. I get it. You're in the limelight, You're
in New York.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
You want to live it up in the city. But
maybe squash a grape on the field first.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yes, yes, fight, fight to win that starting job. Still
be focused on that.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yes, pray for Russell Wilson's demid on the field, like
ease it in.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
It's the it's the seventh request. And when you're talking
to Eli privately, hey, man, yeah, I'm just I want
to find the right place so I can get to
work in seven minutes that I don't have to deal
with any traffic. I mean, I know they train in Jersey,
so it's easy. The neighborhoods around there. What's what's good?
Oh yeah, my parents are coming up. What's the best
closest hotel from from my parents to stay at? And
(26:01):
then you go down that list and then maybe you
know number seven or number nine is Oh man, listen,
I heard about this great restaurant. You know, any connections
over there that you can get me in, because you know,
my uncle's coming in town and he just got married,
so I want to do something special for him, but
not out of the gate. Hey, hook me up with
(26:21):
that restaurant, give me into that hot spot over there
and on Broadway.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
How about Eli?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
How did you stay so poised during those moments in
the Super Bowl right and make it improblem in the past.
So David tyree that he caught it next to his
helmet and Rodney Harrison was there and couldn't take it away.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Ball he threw on the sideline, you know. And the
Championship game or the Super Bowl against the Patriots, you know,
come on, that was on the money. I don't get
me in one spot. How did you you know, with
the calmness and you threw that pass? Come on, man,
give me that, give me that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Tell me how to be the anti Peyton Manning where
I'm not that great in the regular season, but I
step up the playoffs like Eli would do once in
a while.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
How do I beat the Patriots?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
How do I become a Hall of Famer off of
two games basically, I mean those that's the insight you
want from Eli Manning.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I would think, yeah, yeah, that is the insight. You know,
reservations are easy to come back. I'm sure Jackson Dart
would have a problem just using Jackson Dart to get
into any kind of restaurant at it.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know what else, He's probably the type of guy
that wants that steak cooked well done at the nicest
steakhouse ever.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
He ain't ready for that rare.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
He's gonna offend the chef.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Yeah, rookie mistake.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
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the end of this. Let's go Hello Rogan and Rodney.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
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Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah right, that was a movie too. Thank God It's Friday.
That was really good. Back in the day.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Man and Alis a radio showdown.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Uh huh it is Rodney Pete. Adam Austlin All good, Hey, Adam,
I do want to get your final thoughts on kersh
All to Night at some point. But no, no, no,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna throw you back into
that fire while things are kind of cooled off a
little bit. Yes, we're out of time. We can't talk
(28:45):
about it. But I do want to touch on U
c l a real quick because the they're athletic director.
Uh and I always mispronounced his name Mark Martin Jerreman
on Martin Jarman. Yeah, decided he wanted to come in
the USUL is off this week. They're zero and three
(29:07):
and not look good at all. They fired Deshaun Watts,
Deshaun Foster and but he he came in and said, listen, coaches,
players take the day off. We're going to go on
a bonding bowling trip. And so no practice though they
went and was Mookie. Mookie was not there. They needed
(29:29):
him on a team bonding uh excursion. I should say,
we're not a course, we're going canceled practice. Now. My
thing was when Kevin and I talked about this earlier,
is it the is it the athletic Director's place to
come in and tell the new interim coach you know,
(29:50):
this is what we're gonna do with the football team,
or should he stay out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Ah, well, if you want to get in his good
graces and not just be the interim head coach but
event get the job, you might want to listen to
a jarmin As saying here. But I do think it's
probably overstepping just a little bit here. You know, you
got the bye week at the right time, which is
probably why they made the move. Now it makes sense,
but this is a football program in complete disarray. I
(30:20):
don't mind the sentiment of all right, let's cool off
for a second, let's reset, let's try to build up
some camaraderie with the guys, and we just got to
find a way to get some wins here, like a win,
like maybe get to two wins this season, because things
look that bad for them.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
So I don't think it's the.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Worst idea, a cooling off period after everything that's gone
down the last three weeks, with the expectations they had.
And while you can say, okay, it's UCLA, what expectations
should they have had? I don't know what they paid
two million for Nico to bring him in and for
them to completely lay an egg to start this season
and they're not even big ten play yet. I mean,
(31:03):
it's only gonna get tougher from here. So yes, maybe
it's the right time to just a little R and R.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But what does that say to the to the new coach,
right they obviously the Shawn has gone and they elevated
a long time assistant coach to be the interim coach.
I just felt like they they needed to allow him,
the interim coach, to say, listen, guys, hey, we're gonna
take a break. We're gonna get away from it all.
(31:32):
There's too many, you know, all this stuff going on,
a lot of pressure on all of us. Let's just
let's cancel practice today. But let's go for an outing
and have a you know, and bowl a little bit.
But leave it to the coach to do it, as
opposed to the athletic director coming in and say, guys,
stop practice. We're not gonna have practice, We're gonna go bowling.
(31:53):
Maybe just feels like it's just overstepping a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Maybe it was metaphorical, like, hey, there's gonna be some
strikes and gutters. You got to deal with that in life. Wow,
we're in the gutter right now with this team, but
we can get out of it.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
We can get some turkeys up there on the screen.
We go balling here. You do want to embolden your guys.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
You do want to be able to show faith and
confidence and the guys you're putting in charge now and
not feeling like you're one upping them. So the players
then say, well, did you want us to do this
or was it the athletic director, And then they're questioning
your power in these That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's the thing I'm worried about. It's still early in
the season, and yes and no, it's gone ugly the
first three games, but you still got what nine games left,
and this is a coach that's going to lead you forward.
Let him be. Let him be the guy. That's all
I'm saying is just let him be the guy. Let
him make the decision. So the players feel like, Okay,
he's coaching us and he's not getting any instructions of
(32:50):
who to play, how to practice from the athletic director
or the school. He is going to do his job.
So as a player, I'm just wondering how that would
how that plays out with that particular team. All right,
before we get out of here, Adam Tonight, Clayton Kershaw
last appearance as a in the regular season for him,
(33:12):
just thoughts on Clayton going forward tonight and what it
looks like and how you feel about it.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I want to put like this. People know me from
NorCal up in Sacramento. I grew up a Giants fan.
It's sentimental to me tonight to the point where I think,
just like in Kobe's last game, I'll be rooting for
Clayton Kershaw against the Giants. Honestly, this is bigger than
just your fandom. This is in all time great and
(33:41):
I want to see the proper send off. And I
hope he puts up some k's and some zero's there
with the Giants.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Of the plate. Yeah, that place is gonna be rocking hopefully. Yeah,
he gets to go six seven innings and just rocks it.
Dodgers give him some run support so he can celebrate
it as he walked all when Dave Robert comes to
get it and comes to get him. I think it
could be a magical night at Dodger Stadium tonight. Enjoy
(34:08):
the game, Clayton Kershaw. We love you man, and you're
not done yet, but it's all good. Adam, thank you,
thank you for sitting in for Fred last minute today.
Appreciate it. Brother.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I love you, Ronnie, thanks for having me. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Ronnie Kevin, thank you so much. Everybody, have a fantastic weekend.
Go Dodgers.
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