September 22, 2025 • 45 mins
We talk about the Dodgers taking 3 of 4 against the Giants and Kershaw's final start. The Rams blew a 19 point lead to the Eagles while the Chargers battled their way to a win over Denver
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right here we're going on Monday, Fred Rogan, Jonas
Knoxing today for Rodney and e ed Eric Dickerson.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Guys, good afternoon to you.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
He after noon, Fred so Ver. What's up? Jonah's how
you doing? Man?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Good man? How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Man?
Speaker 5 (00:14):
I can't complain, Nobody want to hear no way. I'm
just I'm depressed after that lost yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You want to do that right now? Right now?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Oh my Goshred man, it was just it was horrible. Man.
That was terrible. Man.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
I thank god it's I thank god it's at the
beginning of the season. But that was just that was
a total meltdown. I mean, you know, and you and
I always say this, you know, and in baseball too,
I'm sure you know. In football, in any sport, it's
always one or two plays that that changed the dynamics
of a football game.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I mean A J. Brown. He made a big difference
in that game for the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
But the thing that really hurt them to me was
I don't know if we would lead or were behind.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I think it was it was.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Second and two and we were driving. We weren't like
to say the thirty yard line or something like that.
Or forty yard line. It was second and two. We
threw a pass. I'm like, why would you throw a
pass on second and two? Okay, it's third and two.
We throw another damn pass. I'm like, why would you
throw another damn pass? We go for it on fourth
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down and get smashed in the backfield. I'm like, what
the hell, man, I'm serious. If you can't get two
yards I'm running the football on three downs, you got
a problem. I mean, I just think that that was
really one of the turning points in that football game.
I think that would have put us up by by
nine points or something like that. Yeah, i think nine points.
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But you know, it was just it was a bad deal.
I mean I just felt like that, you know, we
made some bad decisions and then that game, you know,
and it was it.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Was it was hard to watch.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
The defense played greatful, you know, most of the most
of the day, I mean till till a very in.
But in the kicking game, come on, man, you can't
get two field goals blocked? What the hell is that
all about? Two of them up the middle. I mean,
I'm like, damn, my old ass to get out there.
I'm thinking, I'm like one of them fans. I could
block him here like I held him. I mean, it
was just it was, it was so I didn't, you know,
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think about it. Fred I could see it coming. I said,
we're gonna lose this game. I could tell. I said,
the momentumun changed. I said, you can just tell we're
gonna lose the damn game. And it was just frustrating.
I know all the RAM fans were frustrated because you know,
the ego fans is so damn arrogant, they like the
Loan one fans. But anyway, I give him credit. You know,
they won the football game. You gotta beat the champion.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
You just can't go out there and talk about it
and beat him for a half. You got to beat
him four quarters. And when we didn't play four quarters
of football, and that's.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Why you had a nineteen point lead. You blew that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I thought Matthew Stafford did not look great at all yesterday.
He said he missed a lot of he missed a
lot of he missed. He missed some guys that were
that were open. The easy throws, you know, and you
know they ain't never easy. I'm you know, I can
sit there and say easy throws. I'm not quarterback, and
you know it's you know, getting a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And I think, I can't think.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I think the guard got hurt when our guards got hurt,
and that changed that game dramatically.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I mean, what's that big guy named Brown? He crushed him?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
He was he was the one that crushed him last
year when we beat when we got beat. I'm telling
I tell people that's why these guys are backups.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I mean, I said, y'all don't know these they call
them that.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
People come them fat guys up front, them fat guys
up front. They make a big, big difference. And you
ain't got the right fat guy in the right position.
Let me tell you something, man, it can go bad
real real quick. And it went bad really really quick.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Are you trying to say not every fat ass is
the same fat ass?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
There is no Every fat ass is not the fat ass.
Some fat ass are better than other fat asses. Yep,
And I wanted them. Yeah, I think I can't think
of this guy's name. He went, I went through with
a calf injury, and when he got hurt, I said, oh,
and they put the guy and I don't even know
the guy's name. You know they put him in because
they said last year he got beat buying by is
the big defensive tackle name from Uhill. The big guy
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that I think jen Jalen Carter, Jalen Carr, Jalen Carter
was destroying him. Look, I know he's giving his best effort,
but you know, Jalen Carter just that much better.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I mean, you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You know, I'm never seeing the guys not trying because
you know, one thing on that on when you have
to play football or baseball, at any sport, you go
if you're given a one hundred percent, but some guys
are just better than you. And you know, Jayalen Man.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You can't get to field those block man up the middle.
Same guys, I'm saying right up the middle.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I mean, how the hell does that happen? I mean
to me and I thought we had good special teams.
That was terrible special teams.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, you know, well, and the way they live down
the field at the end of the game, you think, Okay,
they're going to pull this out.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Like your job.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
And what do guys say, we'd like to get a
little bit closer because you know, we may know we
can don't have to. You know, if he kicked the ball,
Lodi might get blocked. And when they blocked the ball,
I mean, I didn't even want to watch it. And
then I turned back and I saw the guy running
down the field. I'm like, you got to be kidding me.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Man, Wait, so you can't even you couldn't even watch it.
You had your back, I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Watch it because I had a feeling they was gonna
block it. I just had a feeling that I was driving.
I was driving watching it on my phone. Shouldn't be
doing that, but drive watching.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
On my phone. I'm like, I just said, ain't I
just said, I said, ain't.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Just a bitch. I'm glad I had no money better
that the game. I threw my phone, if.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You I mean for the people that had the rams
plus three and a half. Yeah, to lose that way.
Like I was saying this morning on the show, if
I was at the park with my son listening to
that game and that play would have happened, and it
would have cost me my bet, I would have just
left him on the swing set and gone home, Like, listen,
you figure it out, like you figured it out. Here's
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a couple of snacks here's a juice. You figure it out.
I got bigger problems here. I just need the entire
family's more on that game because of a block kick
the second And here's the part that has got to
be annoying, especially for the Rams and for Sean McVay
and McVeigh will play that well. You know, we can't
let them beat us twice. We got to get focused
like there was something to this game because if you
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go back to the playoffs last year, the team that
played Philly better than anybody was the Rams in that run,
and that was in the snow, in the conditions all
of that, and the thought was, man, if there wasn't
those conditions, if there weren't those issues from mother nature involved,
the Rams probably win that game because they had an
opportunity laid down the stretch in that game to win it.
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And then you get yesterday, they go up by the
by the margin they did, and to let it all
fall apart. And we were talking about this earlier today
as well. This could be one of those games that
determines home field in the playoffs and then exactly and
then you're gonna have to deal with the weather again.
If you're the Rams, because of you couldn't hold onto
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a lead and you got two field goals blocked. Like
this could be one of those games you look back
on to your point Eric that you go, damn, that
was costly.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
We should have we should have won that game. Maybe,
I think about it. They got in the red zone
three times. That score, the score really should have been
it had on a say on the low, twenty eight
to seven. It should have been been. It should have
been like thirty one to seven. That's how they went
in the red zone three times and got three field goals.
I mean, I'm like, you can't do that. They were
doing that last year, getting the red zone and couldn't
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get in. I mean, I mean, I don't know, man
it you know, like I say, hey, you know I
always say this, if every guy there is given one
hundred percent. I know that for a fact because I've
been that guy. You know, you make mistakes and mistakes
costing football games. But to get two field goals blocked,
and especially the last one at the crucial time, that's
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been That's been the first thing. Look, guys, we cannot
let them block this field goal. That's the most important.
Keep them at bay. I don't care how you do it,
but keep them and do not let them in the
back field to block this field goal. And it looked
like it looked like they were just like, Okay, come
on in here, we're gonna let y'all block this.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
You know we're gonna give y'all this game.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, but how are you gonna have that conversation? They
know you're not supposed to let them block it? All right, man,
let me say something.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
No, when you want, let me take Some coaches come
to the side and they be going off. I mean
like like they'll say, hey, you've got to protect the
damn quarterback.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
What the hell are y'all doing up there? You know?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Yo, Hey, we're trying to run the football. You so
and so you're missing your damn block. Do you know
what you got?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I mean, that's how you That's how it is. I mean,
football is an intense game. It really is an intest
and sometimes players go off on players, coaches go off
on players, players go off on other players, and at
that point it should have been hey, man, they blocked
one field goal. It's not gonna happen again. We're gonna
make sure it does not happen again, this is to
win this football game, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Boom.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
They made it look it almost looked like, I don't
even know, Fitz, it looks so easy. It was almost
like they just let them come through. I mean, that's
that's all I it was. It was that's how bad
it was. I mean, they played, they played a great
game for really for maybe two and a half quarters,
and that was it.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And I do think again, one of the big problems
yesterday is Stafford had an off game. He did missopen guys.
They did miss opportunities where they could have even increased
the lead. They blowing nineteen point leads, so they could
have He was not crisp. He was not sharp. And
for the Rams to win, no matter what, he's got
to be crisp and sharp every game.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And he wasn't. In the running game. The running game
was going good. That was the thing.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I mean, that's why I didn't understand on that second
and two, why didn't we run the bar. We threw
a pass I think, and he overthrew Pooka. You know,
Pooker was wide open on a on an outright right
there by the sideline for a first time. Then we
throw another pass to the bunte Adams down down, deep
down the field to the end zone. Then we go
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back and we run the ball up the middle and
get smacked.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I like, damn, I mean you run that ball three
times in a row. That's what you did.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
It was like Seattle when we played the Patriots and
the Super Bowl and you say, run it, don't throw it.
But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
That would have been that in the entire league. That
would have been the best run of the season. Like
if they were if they were able to go on
the road against the defending champs in the early time
slot as well too, and have two wins back to
back weeks, winning in the early time slot and having
to travel to do so, the conversation is completely different.
And yeah, that's got man, that's got to be irritating.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well, it's got to be.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It's got it's got to be that the Rams imploded,
you know, That's that's what it's going to be. They imploded.
They gave this, they gave the game away.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
It's like what I always tell you, Man, if we
did this, we'd have won. I said, I lose to
say that all the time. Man, if we'd have made
that feel going with the one again. Yeah, loser say that,
that's what a loser said. Then the winner said, hey,
you know we could we could go just the Prime
Queen where you go home with the other fat girl.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You know, so.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I'll go home by yourself. You know, look at something,
look at it, look at something on TV. So anyway,
it was when I say it was frustrating, man, it
was frustrating watching it. I was just so disappointed. And
I hate to I hate to get caught up in
those games like that because I don't I don't play
no more.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I'm trying.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
They get too emotional about it, but I did, you know,
I got all emotions about it. And then this week, hey,
we played to coast the coast at three and oh
and I'm damn sure don't want to lose to the
Coat he please God.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Si Eric Dickerson ball. That's right man.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
You know, man, I'm one hundred percent for the Rams.
It ain't it's not even close.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
But you know, Daniel, the Colts have punted one time
this year. I know Jones and that offense has been
so good that the Colts have punted once. And it
was just yesterday, like they hadn't punted before yesterday, and
they did it.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
They've been they've been killing They've been killing people. I mean,
they've been running the ball well with Jonathan Taylor. The
defense has been playing well. I mean, it's gonna be
a tough game too. I mean it's at home, so
you know, hopefully we can't be making these kind of
mistakes on special teams. I mean really, and I got
to say, I'll kick it at the great job kicking
the ball. We kept really trapped in there on the
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end of the field most of the day, which was
that was a plus. That's what they did to us
in the playoffs. We always seem to have bad field
position in the playoffs. We did that to them yesterday
and we still lost the football game.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's what.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
What's that playing?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Right? Like? Coming home?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Oh man, it's no fun, brother, let me tell you that.
I mean, you know, you get on the plane, you
all depressed.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You know. Then you know, I don't know about now.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I mean, because you know, guys back in our day,
they were drinking and smoking and doing all kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
You know, for the first like hour was kind of quiet.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Then I would say, you know, it's a little louder,
A little louder, a little louder to roll people talking.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Hey Fred. Sometimes the fights on the plane too. I've
seen some fights, you know. I mean you have to
break up a couple of fights, you know, No, you
gotta do your job. Man after man. Oh, fighting broke
out in the back back there, big tuss. Yeah, I
mean that happens on the plane. I mean, that's a
lot of being said. But I don't know how to
beg It's I don't know how now these young guys are.
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They might they mightn't care. I mean we care a lot.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
A game like that, man, you carry with you for
a while. It just even if you even let me say,
even if they win this week, if they beat the
coach this week, you will still think about that game
that got away because we had them, you had the lead,
you gave it away.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I mean, it's just that's just how sports.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Are, you know, Eric, Eric, I heard a story. I
don't want to name who the player was, but a
former player told me that back in the day quote
unquote Arrington. No it's not him. No, he would he
would gladly tell you. Yoh, yeah, I said that he
would gladly tell you this, but I heard that back
in the day, guys would get on the plane and
when you sat down at your seat there was a
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beer and two pain pills and a little cup waiting
for you.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It was just what.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
It depended, Jones. It depended on what team John. I mean,
that's that's true some guys. I mean, first of all, man,
guys did all kinds of stuff on that on the planes.
I mean, I'll say this much here. I won't forget.
I won't say who it is. Guy said, Man, you
know we back there, we back that doing cocaine. I'm like, huh,
like really so yeah, I'm like I said, I didn't
do drugs. I'm like, I'm like you man, you joking.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
No, we bet that snorting cocaine? You know on the
way back on?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Was it Jackie Slider?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
No, absolutely not, but Jackets all people? Fred really come on,
Fred Jacket, he needed to snort something.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
But no, no, no, I won't I won't say. But
you know, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you
one thing that we used to do, like you would
be in the locker room. Let's just say you needed
pain pills.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
They had did that. Damn Mike Lansford was really something.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Huh, I think it was him. No, it wasn't. It
wasn't my.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
They'd have bens of pain pills like like Dartha said
biker in or I can't think of one of the
anti inflammatory pick. I mean just just just grab your
handful of Yeah, it was like right, like trigger treat.
Just grab your handful, you know, and take them. I mean,
so it was it was well known that, you know,
they didn't monitor depend the pills that guys took there.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
They really didn't care.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You know, as long as you as long as you
can play Fred, that's all they count, long as you
could deform yeez.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
All right, well that completes our ransom for.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Hey, Jonahs, are you still doing the challenge?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's who's on it this year?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Uh, Mario Salise, you know your your mentee Mario Salise
and Olivia Garvey.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Can ask Jones what is the challenge?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
You don't mind me asking what's the post game show
after Sunday Night Football?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
The show Petros and I used to do Eric? Okay,
all right, okay, like.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
That the creation of Fred and Petros Okay, wrongssful show and.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Petros used to kill afraid, I mean killing Yes, So it's.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Just a three of you, Yeah, just three of us.
And then uh, what happened?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
What happened to the guy?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Uh like the wrestler guy Rob No.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Us who he's asking?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Oh? Manola? Oh no, Manola's not on it. Yeah, so
it's just us three, just doing it.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
US three. What do you do?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
We just talk about the game, talk about local sports.
You know, same old, same old. You know, just keep
on keeping on, keeping on keeping broke down the game yesterday,
big Bolts win, you know, like there's there's there's lots
going on.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Also they changed it this year a little bit though
I didn't see it, sort of God, I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Uh yeah, it's kind of the same concept. Still doing
the high school highlights as well too, and you know,
reacting to the to the previous game. The problem is
these Sunday night games have been awful, like the past
couple of weeks. I mean, felts Vikings was terrible, last
night's game with the Chiefs and awful. So yeah, it's
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not not the most entertaining games to a breakdown postgame,
so try and focus more on the local stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Well, no one wants to see a game that's fifteen
to nine, you know, twenty seventeen, you know that six
to sixty eight. You know, that's old school football. They
want to see a fifty four fifty, you know what.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
You know what's wild about I was thinking when Russell
Wilson was playing in Seattle, because obviously, you know, playing
the NFC West, we're talking about for for sure hall
of Famer, Like, like his trajectory was completely different, and
the second he left Seattle vanished like not even close
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to the same place. And now he's getting booed. They're
cheering for Jackson Dart. Like there's I I don't recall
when I've seen a player's career fall off a cliff
that looked like a for sure first ballot Hall of Famer,
got a Super Bowl, went to another one, and they
left the environment that they had in the NFC West
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and went elsewhere and it was just never the same,
Like they could never get it back on track. It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
So some teams that Taylor made for you, I mean
that team was tailor made for him. They had they
had a great team there with you know, with a
with a defense and offense and it just sometimes it
just when you go someplaces, it just does not work
the same.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
All right, let's see the Ford NFL Spotlight was out
of by Ford and spot like twenty nine Casino. We
are underway, Okay. We had to have Eric Lament. We
had to give him that time time.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Thank you forred Well, no, you, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
We're with you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Sometimes when you're talking out, actually you do not feel worse,
but sometimes you feel better.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You're worsener.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I feel worse.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, I think every Rams fan felt worse yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, when we come back, let's get into the Dodgers.
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Speaker 1 (19:45):
All right, we continue on ed Eric Dickerson's here along
with Jonas Knox.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
He's in for Rodney. All right, So the Dodgers hit
the road.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
They're back at it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
They have wrapped up the regular season at home, and
they wrapped it up sort of in a disappointing way,
like Trenton was ripped yesterday, gave up three.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Runs, they lose to the Giants. Before that, it was
pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
But let's start with what happened on Friday. Clayton Kershaw
on his final game at Dodger Stadium during the regular season.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I don't know if either one of you guys saw that.
I thought it was great.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I thought it was very emotional, kind of tugged at
your heart strings. And he went four four and a third,
innings allowed two runs, didn't get the win, but they
did win, struck out six.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I thought it was a great night. Jonas you want to.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Start, Yeah, I think just watching and I talked to
people that were there and they said that you could
feel there was a It felt special. The night felt special.
There was the buzz. People were in their seats early,
which isn't generally the norm there, but it was kind
of similar to an Otawi pitch. For the first time
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at Dodger Stadium. You saw all those people in their
seats ready for the for the game to start. And
I think it's because as they recognized, oh, this is
a really special moment. But I also think it it's
not just a special moment because you're seeing, you know,
the final regular season start at Dodger Stadium for a legend,
but also I think it kind of symbolizes this era
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of Dodger baseball that's been so successful that you're seeing
him for the final time in a regular season and
people can point to the issues he's had in the
postseason or coming up short here or there, whatever. It's
so rare that you see a player play his entire career,
especially nowadays, for one franchise you could go to any
sport you want. Tom Brady had to go elsewhere. You
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see greats leave all the time and finish their career elsewhere.
Jordan was with the Wizards at the end of his career.
To see him do it here and to be able
to go out the way that he did, I thought
was pretty special, not only just for the Dodger fans
that were at attendance, the ones that watch, but the
Dodger fans that are either here or not here any longer,
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because it sort of put a bow or another bow
on what's been one of the great Eras in the
history of the franchise. It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Eric, you get a chance to see it, or no,
I didn't see it.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
I started highlights, Jonas. I mean, you said everything I
was gonna say pretty much. I mean, when you think
about any player playing eighteen years for one organization, I mean,
that is really really special because you said that right.
Nine times out of ten. You don't get a chance
to finish start your career and finish your career with
the team you played with. And you do have an
allegiance for the team that drafts you, you really do.
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I mean you have a soft spot for that team
because you hope you can have your whole career there.
And he played eighteen years there, and you know he
had ups and downs, but you know, I think more
ups and downs for sure. When they showed some videos
of him when he was a young player, I mean,
I'm like, wow, look how young he is. I mean,
and that's the great thing about playing for an organization
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like the Dodgers. I Mean, you hear it from so
many different baseball players, just athletes about how the Dodgers
represent their players, how they do, the organization that they are,
and I think that's great. That's great for Kershard can
say you can look back and say that, you know,
I played for the Dodgers my whole career. I mean,
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And and you know what, Fred, sometimes you don't appreciate,
you know, your career and the things you've done until
you step away, not two, three, four or five years later.
When he when he's like ten or fifteen years away,
he'll go pack at a look at some of those
those games he pitched and like, man, wow, look at that,
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because I do it now.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
It's like, wow, that's me.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I mean, it's almost like it's you know, it's like
Jonas and Fred, it's like you never played. That's what
it's like when when you really really removed from from
a sport for say twenty something years, it's like you
never did it. And like I said, he did it
at a high level for a long time. So congratulations
to to kurseh Ar. I mean, I think he had
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a great career for the for the l A Dodgers,
all right.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So that's what he got at home, his final home
appearance during a regular season Eric, when you called it,
what was it like?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
When I call what you said, I'm retiring, it was
just it wasn't nothing. It wasn't nothing great. I mean,
it wasn't no fanfare for me. I mean, it was
not fitting like I'm just retiring.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
That was it. I mean, you know it's not back.
It was different back then. Now you know, they didn't
a'n't care. The NFL is way different now. They trying
to put on a big, a big hoop. Live you retire, man, please,
I forgot out of retire. I think I'm coming back
the next year.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Man.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Now, it was nothing like that because they know I
didn't get a chance to play for for for a
team like that, you know, for for the Rams my
whole career. I wish I could have, But you know
it was it was way different for it even now.
I mean think about it. Think about this here. Think
about as great as Tom Brady was in New England,
he had to oh someplace. I mean, to me, that
was the dumbest move ever, even the great Joe Montana
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leaving San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That just didn't make sense. I mean, I won't forget.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
When I talked to Walter Payton, it was one of
the last times we talked in person. It was at
a Pro Bowl in Hawaii. And I asked him because
he was retired, said Walterton.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I said, man, why.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Are you why are you retiring? I mean, I knew
he could play a coup. He Sarah, I'm gonna tell
you something, man, he said, I love playing for Chicago.
And he told me, just like this, I cannot stand
Mike Dick. I will and I don't want to go
another team. I just cannot stand him, and I don't
want to be playing for another team. So I'm just
gonna retire.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Boom. That was it. And even Walter, I mean, he
didn't have this huge, huge fan ferry.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Just it wasn't like that now, you know, you got
social media and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You know, it was like back.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
In our there was on maybe ABC, CBS, oh so
and so retired, blah blah, and they had a standing,
you know, the ceremony for him.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
But that was it. But now it's like a big deal.
But you're not understand Fred.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
The Dodgers are different from the Dodgers are like the
Cowboys and based in football, that's a whole different animal.
It's certain teams that if you retire from you, if
you retire from the Padres, let's say you're talking, you
think it's gonna be like like like like the Dodgers
gonna do it, and you say, you played eighteen years
the Padres.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
You know, if you retire from the Cincinnati Bengals, you
think it's gonna be a big fan fan? Oh, absolutely,
of the Browns. Absolutely, the Clowns, I call them absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
It just don't.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
It don't work like that. It's just certain. It's certain
organizations that they just that's who they are. You know,
they're iconic and you know they're players. Even if you
don't like the player, you still respect the player.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I also think that look, when Otani decides he's gonna
walk away, and by the way, he's on a tear.
When O'tani decides that he's gonna walk away, I think
from a national standpoint, he'll be celebrated in an incredible way.
I don't think he'll get it locally here like Clayton
Kershaw got it because Clayton's like And that's That's always
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been the thing that I point to people when they
talk about you know what is like how a Laker
fans feel about Lebron, Well, they feel he's not Kobe
because Kobe.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Was a Laker.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Lebron's more of a mercenary. Clayton Kershaw is a Dodger.
And this is not knocking O Tani. He clearly made
the right decision. But I don't think that locally he'll
be celebrated and they'll be the place in the heart
of the fans like there were for Kershaw, because that's
a long ass time to be grinding, and not all
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those years were great years, and not all the moments
were great moments. I mean, he went through COVID he
like you just you go back and look at that draft.
Some of the other guys that were that were drafted
around him, all of them ended up going at like
Evan Longoria ended up going to their places, and Kershaw,
you know, number seven pick in two thousand and six,
still with the Dodgers and came back this year. And
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I don't know what the expectations were. I think he's
far exceeded the expectations.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, yes, right, yep, yeah, And that's.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Right, Jonas. You're making a point. Anybody that stayed from
big start to end would be celebrated, that's what you're saying.
Anybody had had any longevity to him ten years. Let's
say you've played ten years for one team. It's different
than if you were signed as a free agent, came
in and played ten years.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yeah, I mean I think that if you are like
Freddie Freeman, when he decides to walk away, he'll be celebrated,
not to this level. Same with Mookie Betts, same with
like Kershaw's. Really, if you go back to the to
the guys from this era that were the founding fathers,
if you will, from this era, who's left? I mean who,
like you know, like you can go back to Justin
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Turner wasn't drafted here and he ended up elsewhere. Seeger
ended up elsewhere, Bellinger ended up elsewhere, Like if you
look at Kenlee Jansen ended up elsewhere. Like Kershaw's the
guy who's been here the entire time. And that's almost
two decades worth of ups and downs and championships and
Cy Young's and Hall of Fame and look, and I'll
say this, I mean that pitch could have hit Devers,
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they would have called it a strike. Okay. I think
I think everybody knew, everybody knew the assignment, and everybody
knew the job in hand make that a strike. It
clearly was not a strike. You could look at the
box on the screen. Clearly it was not. And I
think Rafael Devers looked around and was like, all right, whatever, dude.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Okay, it's a strike.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Okay, hell you got it. And Churso was like, give
me that bab out of here. So it was kind
of kind of funny to see how that played out.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It was Enberg, the late great Dick Enberg would always
say there's something romantic about starting and finishing in the
same place.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Eric I agree, I agree.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I mean, it's just like he just said, It's like,
it's like Michael strahand sacking Brett Fahr like, and it
was like, Okay, is that a sack? Is that a laydown?
It is? I mean, it's nothing like playing for an
organization the whole time. I never had that. I wish
I would have. That's why I think I have such
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an allegiance to my college. You know, I think most
most players you know to play college football, they have
really allegiance to their university because you only play four
years there. You know, you have to play four years there,
but you know you have a bond with those guys
that never change. You know that you have just would
have nothing else. And if you play on a team
for eighteen years, think about that for eighteen years, that
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is a long long time. I mean the players for
one team for eighteen years. I mean, you've had a
lot of ups and downs. And like I say, and
it's the Dodgers. That's the big thing. It is the
LA Dodgers. It's it's not like any other organization. I
keep going back to. It's like the Cowboys. You might
not like the Cowboys. And I told you before I
even looked it up. I looked it up two years ago.
(30:47):
The most hated team in Major League Baseball, LA Dodgers.
And why you think they hated? Because they got the
fan base and they win. That's it.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, they went over four million fans this year.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
What do you think the Angels? What do you the
Angels are going to do for Mike Trout when he
decides to walk away. What are they going to give him,
like a hundred dollars gift card to the Dollar Tree
or something.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I had a boy at a boy.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I mean, I mean think about I mean when when
when when O'tany was with the Angels, I would always say,
man if he was a Dodger, saying if he was
a Dodger, he was a Dodger.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
And I mean, what do you do for Mike Trout
if you.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Really think about it?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
First of all, Mike Trout, god bless, great player, but
you know, suffers from what I've always said, long term deals,
these gigantically long term deals, more often than not have
diminishing returns. And now here we are he's been hurt.
I mean, a great player, but injured, then injured, lost
(31:54):
a step, then injured, and he's not remotely close to
the player he was so at the point of his retirement,
and assuming the Angels are as god awful as they
continue to be, and that would mean they would be
god awful for more years to come.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Kevin's right here? Do you have to talk like that
about him?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Come on?
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Is that ru Fred is saying the things that I'm thinking.
It's quite all right? Okay, ten straight losing seasons, by
the way, so they have that to hang their hat on.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
So there you go, congratulations, right, So I mean if
they continue like that, what do you do for a
guy like that?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Seriously?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I mean, he's not going to get better, His skills
are going to continue to a road, They're going to
be awful. Someone's going to call in the dogs. And
at that point in time, what.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Do you do? I mean, what do you give him
a rocking chair?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
What about if they design a ride at Disneyland for him?
I'm just saying, like, design design a ride for him?
That'd be pretty sweet.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
And what's the ride going to be?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I don't know my knee? Come on, Fred, he can't help.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Ronnie rot up. A great point is that the right
would just break down every five minutes, So.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
That's not nice.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
But you know what, Fred, that that is a good question.
I mean, because Mike Trout is a great baseball player.
I have to say the same thing about him. I said,
man if he was a Dodger Man, but you know
it is, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
They missed that window. Yeah you think Mike Trout would
be a great addition to your team. No, he really wouldn't.
Can't stay healthy. And it's not his fault. It's not
like he goes out there and it's not like Anthony Rendell.
Does Anthony Rendon have one more year, Kevin?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Or does.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Anthony Rendon has another year?
Speaker 6 (33:46):
I love him, I believe so I love him.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Could they him.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
I mean, yeah, they have to pay all the salary.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah, Fred, And then he had a DF pay him right,
like you talk about somebody who figured it out. Guys
like you know what, I want to go win a
World Series. I want to be really really great. I
want to be in the MVP conversation one year. I
want to get the bag. I want to move to
southern California and then everybody here can kiss my ass,
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like literally, And he's just gotten paid ever since it's great.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Thirty eight million dollars next year?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Will he play next year?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Damn?
Speaker 6 (34:23):
First of all, First of all, doesn't matter. That's one
considering where the Angels are just as an organization in general.
And two, if he does, he wasn't productive when he
did play for them, So what does it matter?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
And you can't it's not like it's not like basketball.
He can't buy him out right.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
I mean, I guess you could. You probably reach some
sort of agreements so that, hey, we can pay you
a certain percentage. I'm not one hundred percent sure how
the CBA works in baseball, but my guess as you could.
But if you're him, why would you. He's been cravy,
He's been gravy training at thirty five plus million dollars
for the last four years, doing literally nothing.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Why would I give thirty million?
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Taking thirty five this year, Eric, and then I think
he makes thirty eight?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
What does he do all day?
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I'd like to know what he does?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Count his money exactly?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah, what do you mean? The snow Angels one, two, three,
sixty fair is? They were asking it one time. They're,
you know, about like all his struggles or something along
the lines of, you know, do you feel it? And
He's just like, no, listen, my priority is to my
faith in my family. I mean sorry, that's that's my priorities.
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If anybody doesn't like that, then they don't like it.
It's like, you know what. First of all, he's one
hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Correct, Yeah right.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Secondly, he's got generational wealth. He's got no issues. That
guy's going to be out of the game before he's
forty years old, and he's going to have almost three
hundred million dollars in the bank. He figured it out, man,
like hegan the highlight of his Angels career, didn't he
punch some guy with a cast on Kevin?
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
In Oakland? Yeah, a fight with a fan in Oakland.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yes, there's that, There's that, there's you know, there was
a skirmish by the dugout and he was throwing punches
with a mush guy man. Yeah, oh my gosh, I
love him. I love Anthony Rendone.
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Speaker 3 (37:19):
You're gonna love it.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Uh, Okay, guys talking at Justin Herbert's leged girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Can I Can I say something? Can I say something?
It's It's amazing how how things are now. Like I
think about Justin Herbert having this young lady as his girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
What's her name again? What's her name? Madison Beer?
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Madison Beer. Back in our day, See, we couldn't get
to we couldn't get to a girl like Madison Beer
unless you did. You know, wasn't no social media, you know.
I'm thinking about, you know, only way you got you
have to go out and meet a girl. You have
to go out, you know, and having to run into
a like I'm not ran into not Paul that do God,
I can't think it was one of the Prince's girls.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
And I'm like, I got a phone number, you know,
but you.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Know, now you can you can reach out to a
girl on social media and say hey, I want to
meet you, and I got my agent put us together
with your agent. But it's way way different. I'm like, wow,
dating has really changed.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Back then we had to rap, you know, you know,
you know, with wrapping this red you talk to a girl.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I could just see you going up, Hey baby, what's up?
My name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, that's how I would do it there, That's exactly
how I rolled.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, Yeah, what's your name? What's that? My name is Fred.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Look, let me change something. Nobody Nobody with the name
of Fred would talk that way. Nobody go hey, baby,
what's up? I'm Fred?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Nobody all right? Oh, a brother would because you know,
we know we got that sweat. Baby. What's up baby?
How you doing? What's your name? My name is Fred.
What's your name? You probably Hi? My name is Hi.
My name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I don't know if it was that high pitch to
be what's what's your name?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Anyway? What's your sign? What's your thanks?
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I mean listen.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Fred's got a reputation, man, I mean for sure he does.
Fred quite quite the ladies man. And and I will
say this about about Madison Beer. Definitely open minded. She's
definitely open minded. Uh, she does have a has a
little bit of a past. She's uh, she's willing to
try anything and h and had a phase that was.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Okay, let me let me let me look her up.
What's the name again, Madison? There's not not a plate
ticket to know everybody.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
No, listen, you know, guy gal whatever, like they just
you know, like she's uh, you know, she's really open
minded to stuff. And I think it's you know, to
find it within her heart to h to be open
minded to uh to justin Herbert, I think she's really
really onto something here.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I was, I'm looking at it. I was six.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
I'd be after medicine beech them, are you kidding me?
I'd be like, hey, BG, what's up Ben? Anyway, Okay,
I just had to say that.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I mean, I listen, I think it's I think that's
you know, that's the most important part of all this.
I mean, you can find it does feel I'll say this,
and I know this is gonna seem crazy. That game
they should not have won yesterday. The Chargers should not
have won that game yesterday. They were they were awful
for majority of that game. Justin Herbert didn't look good.
They finally get a home game with the world's largest gazebo.
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They're there, they're struggling against Denver, and somehow, someway they win.
And now you look at them and you go, all right,
it's one thing if they're three and oh, they're three
and oh against the division They had to go to Brazil,
which was difficult. They had to go to Vegas, you know,
on on Monday night, which you know, the team's not
all that difficult, but it's still a road game. And
(40:58):
they figure out that game against Denver. You start out
the year three and oh and they're all divisional wins.
That's a massive advantage for them, especially considering the Chiefs
don't look like the same Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
I told you that, Fred, Then I tell you the
Chiefs Chiefs look they look they look old. I mean,
I know they got receivers missing. I know she Rice
is missing. I can't think of the other receiver that's
missing right now.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
He's out.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
But you know, they just don't look the same. Even
the defense does not look the same. I mean, playing
the Giants last night, I mean they're a giant, so
I expected them to beat the Giants, but you know.
But you know the thing about winning football games is
we don't care how you win it, Jones, don't you
win it? It could be ugly pretty like just like
the Ram. The Rams should have won that game. But
(41:42):
I say lose to say that all the time. And
but the Chargers found a way to win that football game.
I give them credit. You know, I still say that
that that that nice little team across town. But they
won that football game, and that's all that counts.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
I'm not sure there's so little anymore. Eric, they still little,
they still little. Come on, man, let's be for real.
Charge ain't got no real, no real fan base. I mean,
let's be for real. That's like, that's you know, that's like,
that's like comparing the Angels fan base to the Dodgers
fan base. And that might be a little taken a little,
but come on, man, come on, dog, come on, you
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don't you don't have to see no charges of stuff
walking around l A. I mean, if they were San
Diego like they should still be most definitely. And then look,
the Charges have a good football team. I'm not saying,
you know, you know, down playing that their team, but
they're in l A Man. Nobody wanted that. Nobody wanted
the Chargers in time. I mean, seriously, I mean they
should be in San Diego. I mean they shouldn't be
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in LA. The LA Chargers. I still call them the
San Diego Chargers, but they're the l A Chargers.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
I don't have a time.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
I know, it's just hard to say it. I mean,
that's like if the Angels came to l A. All
of a sudden, we got the La.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Angels in LA. Like what as they believe they belong
in Anaheim? What they're doing up here?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
No, I get that.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
I have to tell you though, I do think they
have at the very least increased their footprint in the market.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I think they have done that.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
And I also think if you find a way to
win a game like they did yesterday Jonas, I mean
that could mean something that they are now to a
point where they can do that. They're now to a
point where you've got to take them really seriously.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Look a look at Fred, after all these years of
bearing the organization, just welcoming the Chargers into his arms
and just saying, listen, I'll give you a hug. You know,
if you could just do that with the Clippers as
soon as they figure out whether or not, you know,
this whole Kawhi Leonard thing is something to discuss. I mean, look,
you know, I think this is You're You're showing a
different side of yourself. You're not so callous, You're not
(43:41):
so cold anymore. And I don't know if it's got
anything to do with the Madison beer pictures that you
looked up, but I just think, I look, I think
this is this is a brand new Rogan here, welcoming
in the Chargers to uh to the to the successful
land of La Sports.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Well, to be fair, Jonas, I think I have pointed
out in the past have increased their footprint here. I
think I've said that, and it's hard to argue the
early success they've had this year.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Man Fred's a bat. He's a b W.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
What's that bandwagoner? And not a BMW either, it's a
b BMW either. Oh god, Eric, all right, let's see
they're winning. I'll call right now, they're winning the AFC West.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
By the way, you can't deny they've increased their footprint,
but there still was a hell of a lot of
orange that so fi it says a lot for your
home opener.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Fred I got to go back to one thing too.
I cannot believe last week you had this. You started
off with the baby deal. The baby, Well, you said
the baby had CPR. I'm still I thought about that yesterday.
I'm like, and the baby was a damn raccoon. I'm like,
what are you talking about, man, I'm thinking it's a
real baby, a baby. Yes, well, how did you start it? Yes,
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a baby was found in a dumpster. I'm like, oh
my god, a baby found in a dumpster. And then
he goes on and we and riding was talking about
the baby said a raccoon.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
I'm like, a raccoon.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
All right, Well, well we'll talk about it. We'll talk
about when we come back to an NFL Spotlight is
presented by four.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Jonas.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
I'll explain it to
Speaker 3 (45:23):
You when we come back, and we'll also leave into
the doctor pitching situation.
All right here we're going on Monday, Fred Rogan, Jonas
Knoxing today for Rodney and e ed Eric Dickerson.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Guys, good afternoon to you.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
He after noon, Fred so Ver. What's up? Jonah's how
you doing? Man?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Good man? How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Man?
Speaker 5 (00:14):
I can't complain, Nobody want to hear no way. I'm
just I'm depressed after that lost yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You want to do that right now? Right now?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Oh my Goshred man, it was just it was horrible. Man.
That was terrible. Man.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
I thank god it's I thank god it's at the
beginning of the season. But that was just that was
a total meltdown. I mean, you know, and you and
I always say this, you know, and in baseball too,
I'm sure you know. In football, in any sport, it's
always one or two plays that that changed the dynamics
of a football game.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I mean A J. Brown. He made a big difference
in that game for the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
But the thing that really hurt them to me was
I don't know if we would lead or were behind.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I think it was it was.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Second and two and we were driving. We weren't like
to say the thirty yard line or something like that.
Or forty yard line. It was second and two. We
threw a pass. I'm like, why would you throw a
pass on second and two? Okay, it's third and two.
We throw another damn pass. I'm like, why would you
throw another damn pass? We go for it on fourth
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down and get smashed in the backfield. I'm like, what
the hell, man, I'm serious. If you can't get two
yards I'm running the football on three downs, you got
a problem. I mean, I just think that that was
really one of the turning points in that football game.
I think that would have put us up by by
nine points or something like that. Yeah, i think nine points.
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But you know, it was just it was a bad deal.
I mean I just felt like that, you know, we
made some bad decisions and then that game, you know,
and it was it.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Was it was hard to watch.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
The defense played greatful, you know, most of the most
of the day, I mean till till a very in.
But in the kicking game, come on, man, you can't
get two field goals blocked? What the hell is that
all about? Two of them up the middle. I mean,
I'm like, damn, my old ass to get out there.
I'm thinking, I'm like one of them fans. I could
block him here like I held him. I mean, it
was just it was, it was so I didn't, you know,
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think about it. Fred I could see it coming. I said,
we're gonna lose this game. I could tell. I said,
the momentumun changed. I said, you can just tell we're
gonna lose the damn game. And it was just frustrating.
I know all the RAM fans were frustrated because you know,
the ego fans is so damn arrogant, they like the
Loan one fans. But anyway, I give him credit. You know,
they won the football game. You gotta beat the champion.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
You just can't go out there and talk about it
and beat him for a half. You got to beat
him four quarters. And when we didn't play four quarters
of football, and that's.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Why you had a nineteen point lead. You blew that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I thought Matthew Stafford did not look great at all yesterday.
He said he missed a lot of he missed a
lot of he missed. He missed some guys that were
that were open. The easy throws, you know, and you
know they ain't never easy. I'm you know, I can
sit there and say easy throws. I'm not quarterback, and
you know it's you know, getting a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And I think, I can't think.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I think the guard got hurt when our guards got hurt,
and that changed that game dramatically.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I mean, what's that big guy named Brown? He crushed him?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
He was he was the one that crushed him last
year when we beat when we got beat. I'm telling
I tell people that's why these guys are backups.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I mean, I said, y'all don't know these they call
them that.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
People come them fat guys up front, them fat guys
up front. They make a big, big difference. And you
ain't got the right fat guy in the right position.
Let me tell you something, man, it can go bad
real real quick. And it went bad really really quick.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Are you trying to say not every fat ass is
the same fat ass?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
There is no Every fat ass is not the fat ass.
Some fat ass are better than other fat asses. Yep,
And I wanted them. Yeah, I think I can't think
of this guy's name. He went, I went through with
a calf injury, and when he got hurt, I said, oh,
and they put the guy and I don't even know
the guy's name. You know they put him in because
they said last year he got beat buying by is
the big defensive tackle name from Uhill. The big guy
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that I think jen Jalen Carter, Jalen Carr, Jalen Carter
was destroying him. Look, I know he's giving his best effort,
but you know, Jalen Carter just that much better.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I mean, you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You know, I'm never seeing the guys not trying because
you know, one thing on that on when you have
to play football or baseball, at any sport, you go
if you're given a one hundred percent, but some guys
are just better than you. And you know, Jayalen Man.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You can't get to field those block man up the middle.
Same guys, I'm saying right up the middle.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I mean, how the hell does that happen? I mean
to me and I thought we had good special teams.
That was terrible special teams.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, you know, well, and the way they live down
the field at the end of the game, you think, Okay,
they're going to pull this out.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Like your job.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
And what do guys say, we'd like to get a
little bit closer because you know, we may know we
can don't have to. You know, if he kicked the ball,
Lodi might get blocked. And when they blocked the ball,
I mean, I didn't even want to watch it. And
then I turned back and I saw the guy running
down the field. I'm like, you got to be kidding me.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Man, Wait, so you can't even you couldn't even watch it.
You had your back, I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Watch it because I had a feeling they was gonna
block it. I just had a feeling that I was driving.
I was driving watching it on my phone. Shouldn't be
doing that, but drive watching.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
On my phone. I'm like, I just said, ain't I
just said, I said, ain't.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Just a bitch. I'm glad I had no money better
that the game. I threw my phone, if.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You I mean for the people that had the rams
plus three and a half. Yeah, to lose that way.
Like I was saying this morning on the show, if
I was at the park with my son listening to
that game and that play would have happened, and it
would have cost me my bet, I would have just
left him on the swing set and gone home, Like, listen,
you figure it out, like you figured it out. Here's
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a couple of snacks here's a juice. You figure it out.
I got bigger problems here. I just need the entire
family's more on that game because of a block kick
the second And here's the part that has got to
be annoying, especially for the Rams and for Sean McVay
and McVeigh will play that well. You know, we can't
let them beat us twice. We got to get focused
like there was something to this game because if you
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go back to the playoffs last year, the team that
played Philly better than anybody was the Rams in that run,
and that was in the snow, in the conditions all
of that, and the thought was, man, if there wasn't
those conditions, if there weren't those issues from mother nature involved,
the Rams probably win that game because they had an
opportunity laid down the stretch in that game to win it.
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And then you get yesterday, they go up by the
by the margin they did, and to let it all
fall apart. And we were talking about this earlier today
as well. This could be one of those games that
determines home field in the playoffs and then exactly and
then you're gonna have to deal with the weather again.
If you're the Rams, because of you couldn't hold onto
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a lead and you got two field goals blocked. Like
this could be one of those games you look back
on to your point Eric that you go, damn, that
was costly.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
We should have we should have won that game. Maybe,
I think about it. They got in the red zone
three times. That score, the score really should have been
it had on a say on the low, twenty eight
to seven. It should have been been. It should have
been like thirty one to seven. That's how they went
in the red zone three times and got three field goals.
I mean, I'm like, you can't do that. They were
doing that last year, getting the red zone and couldn't
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get in. I mean, I mean, I don't know, man
it you know, like I say, hey, you know I
always say this, if every guy there is given one
hundred percent. I know that for a fact because I've
been that guy. You know, you make mistakes and mistakes
costing football games. But to get two field goals blocked,
and especially the last one at the crucial time, that's
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been That's been the first thing. Look, guys, we cannot
let them block this field goal. That's the most important.
Keep them at bay. I don't care how you do it,
but keep them and do not let them in the
back field to block this field goal. And it looked
like it looked like they were just like, Okay, come
on in here, we're gonna let y'all block this.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
You know we're gonna give y'all this game.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, but how are you gonna have that conversation? They
know you're not supposed to let them block it? All right, man,
let me say something.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
No, when you want, let me take Some coaches come
to the side and they be going off. I mean
like like they'll say, hey, you've got to protect the
damn quarterback.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
What the hell are y'all doing up there? You know?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Yo, Hey, we're trying to run the football. You so
and so you're missing your damn block. Do you know
what you got?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I mean, that's how you That's how it is. I mean,
football is an intense game. It really is an intest
and sometimes players go off on players, coaches go off
on players, players go off on other players, and at
that point it should have been hey, man, they blocked
one field goal. It's not gonna happen again. We're gonna
make sure it does not happen again, this is to
win this football game, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Boom.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
They made it look it almost looked like, I don't
even know, Fitz, it looks so easy. It was almost
like they just let them come through. I mean, that's
that's all I it was. It was that's how bad
it was. I mean, they played, they played a great
game for really for maybe two and a half quarters,
and that was it.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And I do think again, one of the big problems
yesterday is Stafford had an off game. He did missopen guys.
They did miss opportunities where they could have even increased
the lead. They blowing nineteen point leads, so they could
have He was not crisp. He was not sharp. And
for the Rams to win, no matter what, he's got
to be crisp and sharp every game.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And he wasn't. In the running game. The running game
was going good. That was the thing.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I mean, that's why I didn't understand on that second
and two, why didn't we run the bar. We threw
a pass I think, and he overthrew Pooka. You know,
Pooker was wide open on a on an outright right
there by the sideline for a first time. Then we
throw another pass to the bunte Adams down down, deep
down the field to the end zone. Then we go
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back and we run the ball up the middle and
get smacked.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I like, damn, I mean you run that ball three
times in a row. That's what you did.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
It was like Seattle when we played the Patriots and
the Super Bowl and you say, run it, don't throw it.
But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
That would have been that in the entire league. That
would have been the best run of the season. Like
if they were if they were able to go on
the road against the defending champs in the early time
slot as well too, and have two wins back to
back weeks, winning in the early time slot and having
to travel to do so, the conversation is completely different.
And yeah, that's got man, that's got to be irritating.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well, it's got to be.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It's got it's got to be that the Rams imploded,
you know, That's that's what it's going to be. They imploded.
They gave this, they gave the game away.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
It's like what I always tell you, Man, if we
did this, we'd have won. I said, I lose to
say that all the time. Man, if we'd have made
that feel going with the one again. Yeah, loser say that,
that's what a loser said. Then the winner said, hey,
you know we could we could go just the Prime
Queen where you go home with the other fat girl.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You know, so.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I'll go home by yourself. You know, look at something,
look at it, look at something on TV. So anyway,
it was when I say it was frustrating, man, it
was frustrating watching it. I was just so disappointed. And
I hate to I hate to get caught up in
those games like that because I don't I don't play
no more.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I'm trying.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
They get too emotional about it, but I did, you know,
I got all emotions about it. And then this week, hey,
we played to coast the coast at three and oh
and I'm damn sure don't want to lose to the
Coat he please God.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Si Eric Dickerson ball. That's right man.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
You know, man, I'm one hundred percent for the Rams.
It ain't it's not even close.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
But you know, Daniel, the Colts have punted one time
this year. I know Jones and that offense has been
so good that the Colts have punted once. And it
was just yesterday, like they hadn't punted before yesterday, and
they did it.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
They've been they've been killing They've been killing people. I mean,
they've been running the ball well with Jonathan Taylor. The
defense has been playing well. I mean, it's gonna be
a tough game too. I mean it's at home, so
you know, hopefully we can't be making these kind of
mistakes on special teams. I mean really, and I got
to say, I'll kick it at the great job kicking
the ball. We kept really trapped in there on the
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end of the field most of the day, which was
that was a plus. That's what they did to us
in the playoffs. We always seem to have bad field
position in the playoffs. We did that to them yesterday
and we still lost the football game.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's what.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
What's that playing?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Right? Like? Coming home?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Oh man, it's no fun, brother, let me tell you that.
I mean, you know, you get on the plane, you
all depressed.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You know. Then you know, I don't know about now.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I mean, because you know, guys back in our day,
they were drinking and smoking and doing all kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
You know, for the first like hour was kind of quiet.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Then I would say, you know, it's a little louder,
A little louder, a little louder to roll people talking.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Hey Fred. Sometimes the fights on the plane too. I've
seen some fights, you know. I mean you have to
break up a couple of fights, you know, No, you
gotta do your job. Man after man. Oh, fighting broke
out in the back back there, big tuss. Yeah, I
mean that happens on the plane. I mean, that's a
lot of being said. But I don't know how to
beg It's I don't know how now these young guys are.
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They might they mightn't care. I mean we care a lot.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
A game like that, man, you carry with you for
a while. It just even if you even let me say,
even if they win this week, if they beat the
coach this week, you will still think about that game
that got away because we had them, you had the lead,
you gave it away.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I mean, it's just that's just how sports.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Are, you know, Eric, Eric, I heard a story. I
don't want to name who the player was, but a
former player told me that back in the day quote
unquote Arrington. No it's not him. No, he would he
would gladly tell you. Yoh, yeah, I said that he
would gladly tell you this, but I heard that back
in the day, guys would get on the plane and
when you sat down at your seat there was a
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beer and two pain pills and a little cup waiting
for you.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It was just what.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
It depended, Jones. It depended on what team John. I mean,
that's that's true some guys. I mean, first of all, man,
guys did all kinds of stuff on that on the planes.
I mean, I'll say this much here. I won't forget.
I won't say who it is. Guy said, Man, you
know we back there, we back that doing cocaine. I'm like, huh,
like really so yeah, I'm like I said, I didn't
do drugs. I'm like, I'm like you man, you joking.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
No, we bet that snorting cocaine? You know on the
way back on?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Was it Jackie Slider?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
No, absolutely not, but Jackets all people? Fred really come on,
Fred Jacket, he needed to snort something.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
But no, no, no, I won't I won't say. But
you know, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you
one thing that we used to do, like you would
be in the locker room. Let's just say you needed
pain pills.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
They had did that. Damn Mike Lansford was really something.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Huh, I think it was him. No, it wasn't. It
wasn't my.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
They'd have bens of pain pills like like Dartha said
biker in or I can't think of one of the
anti inflammatory pick. I mean just just just grab your
handful of Yeah, it was like right, like trigger treat.
Just grab your handful, you know, and take them. I mean,
so it was it was well known that, you know,
they didn't monitor depend the pills that guys took there.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
They really didn't care.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You know, as long as you as long as you
can play Fred, that's all they count, long as you
could deform yeez.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
All right, well that completes our ransom for.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Hey, Jonahs, are you still doing the challenge?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's who's on it this year?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Uh, Mario Salise, you know your your mentee Mario Salise
and Olivia Garvey.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Can ask Jones what is the challenge?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
You don't mind me asking what's the post game show
after Sunday Night Football?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
The show Petros and I used to do Eric? Okay,
all right, okay, like.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
That the creation of Fred and Petros Okay, wrongssful show and.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Petros used to kill afraid, I mean killing Yes, So it's.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Just a three of you, Yeah, just three of us.
And then uh, what happened?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
What happened to the guy?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Uh like the wrestler guy Rob No.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Us who he's asking?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Oh? Manola? Oh no, Manola's not on it. Yeah, so
it's just us three, just doing it.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
US three. What do you do?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
We just talk about the game, talk about local sports.
You know, same old, same old. You know, just keep
on keeping on, keeping on keeping broke down the game yesterday,
big Bolts win, you know, like there's there's there's lots
going on.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Also they changed it this year a little bit though
I didn't see it, sort of God, I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Uh yeah, it's kind of the same concept. Still doing
the high school highlights as well too, and you know,
reacting to the to the previous game. The problem is
these Sunday night games have been awful, like the past
couple of weeks. I mean, felts Vikings was terrible, last
night's game with the Chiefs and awful. So yeah, it's
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not not the most entertaining games to a breakdown postgame,
so try and focus more on the local stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Well, no one wants to see a game that's fifteen
to nine, you know, twenty seventeen, you know that six
to sixty eight. You know, that's old school football. They
want to see a fifty four fifty, you know what.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
You know what's wild about I was thinking when Russell
Wilson was playing in Seattle, because obviously, you know, playing
the NFC West, we're talking about for for sure hall
of Famer, Like, like his trajectory was completely different, and
the second he left Seattle vanished like not even close
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to the same place. And now he's getting booed. They're
cheering for Jackson Dart. Like there's I I don't recall
when I've seen a player's career fall off a cliff
that looked like a for sure first ballot Hall of Famer,
got a Super Bowl, went to another one, and they
left the environment that they had in the NFC West
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and went elsewhere and it was just never the same,
Like they could never get it back on track. It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
So some teams that Taylor made for you, I mean
that team was tailor made for him. They had they
had a great team there with you know, with a
with a defense and offense and it just sometimes it
just when you go someplaces, it just does not work
the same.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
All right, let's see the Ford NFL Spotlight was out
of by Ford and spot like twenty nine Casino. We
are underway, Okay. We had to have Eric Lament. We
had to give him that time time.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Thank you forred Well, no, you, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
We're with you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Sometimes when you're talking out, actually you do not feel worse,
but sometimes you feel better.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You're worsener.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I feel worse.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, I think every Rams fan felt worse yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, when we come back, let's get into the Dodgers.
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Speaker 1 (19:45):
All right, we continue on ed Eric Dickerson's here along
with Jonas Knox.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
He's in for Rodney. All right, So the Dodgers hit
the road.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
They're back at it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
They have wrapped up the regular season at home, and
they wrapped it up sort of in a disappointing way,
like Trenton was ripped yesterday, gave up three.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Runs, they lose to the Giants. Before that, it was
pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
But let's start with what happened on Friday. Clayton Kershaw
on his final game at Dodger Stadium during the regular season.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I don't know if either one of you guys saw that.
I thought it was great.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I thought it was very emotional, kind of tugged at
your heart strings. And he went four four and a third,
innings allowed two runs, didn't get the win, but they
did win, struck out six.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I thought it was a great night. Jonas you want to.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Start, Yeah, I think just watching and I talked to
people that were there and they said that you could
feel there was a It felt special. The night felt special.
There was the buzz. People were in their seats early,
which isn't generally the norm there, but it was kind
of similar to an Otawi pitch. For the first time
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at Dodger Stadium. You saw all those people in their
seats ready for the for the game to start. And
I think it's because as they recognized, oh, this is
a really special moment. But I also think it it's
not just a special moment because you're seeing, you know,
the final regular season start at Dodger Stadium for a legend,
but also I think it kind of symbolizes this era
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of Dodger baseball that's been so successful that you're seeing
him for the final time in a regular season and
people can point to the issues he's had in the
postseason or coming up short here or there, whatever. It's
so rare that you see a player play his entire career,
especially nowadays, for one franchise you could go to any
sport you want. Tom Brady had to go elsewhere. You
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see greats leave all the time and finish their career elsewhere.
Jordan was with the Wizards at the end of his career.
To see him do it here and to be able
to go out the way that he did, I thought
was pretty special, not only just for the Dodger fans
that were at attendance, the ones that watch, but the
Dodger fans that are either here or not here any longer,
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because it sort of put a bow or another bow
on what's been one of the great Eras in the
history of the franchise. It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Eric, you get a chance to see it, or no,
I didn't see it.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
I started highlights, Jonas. I mean, you said everything I
was gonna say pretty much. I mean, when you think
about any player playing eighteen years for one organization, I mean,
that is really really special because you said that right.
Nine times out of ten. You don't get a chance
to finish start your career and finish your career with
the team you played with. And you do have an
allegiance for the team that drafts you, you really do.
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I mean you have a soft spot for that team
because you hope you can have your whole career there.
And he played eighteen years there, and you know he
had ups and downs, but you know, I think more
ups and downs for sure. When they showed some videos
of him when he was a young player, I mean,
I'm like, wow, look how young he is. I mean,
and that's the great thing about playing for an organization
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like the Dodgers. I Mean, you hear it from so
many different baseball players, just athletes about how the Dodgers
represent their players, how they do, the organization that they are,
and I think that's great. That's great for Kershard can
say you can look back and say that, you know,
I played for the Dodgers my whole career. I mean,
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And and you know what, Fred, sometimes you don't appreciate,
you know, your career and the things you've done until
you step away, not two, three, four or five years later.
When he when he's like ten or fifteen years away,
he'll go pack at a look at some of those
those games he pitched and like, man, wow, look at that,
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because I do it now.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
It's like, wow, that's me.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I mean, it's almost like it's you know, it's like
Jonas and Fred, it's like you never played. That's what
it's like when when you really really removed from from
a sport for say twenty something years, it's like you
never did it. And like I said, he did it
at a high level for a long time. So congratulations
to to kurseh Ar. I mean, I think he had
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a great career for the for the l A Dodgers,
all right.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So that's what he got at home, his final home
appearance during a regular season Eric, when you called it,
what was it like?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
When I call what you said, I'm retiring, it was
just it wasn't nothing. It wasn't nothing great. I mean,
it wasn't no fanfare for me. I mean, it was
not fitting like I'm just retiring.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
That was it. I mean, you know it's not back.
It was different back then. Now you know, they didn't
a'n't care. The NFL is way different now. They trying
to put on a big, a big hoop. Live you retire, man, please,
I forgot out of retire. I think I'm coming back
the next year.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Man.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Now, it was nothing like that because they know I
didn't get a chance to play for for for a
team like that, you know, for for the Rams my
whole career. I wish I could have, But you know
it was it was way different for it even now.
I mean think about it. Think about this here. Think
about as great as Tom Brady was in New England,
he had to oh someplace. I mean, to me, that
was the dumbest move ever, even the great Joe Montana
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leaving San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That just didn't make sense. I mean, I won't forget.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
When I talked to Walter Payton, it was one of
the last times we talked in person. It was at
a Pro Bowl in Hawaii. And I asked him because
he was retired, said Walterton.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I said, man, why.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Are you why are you retiring? I mean, I knew
he could play a coup. He Sarah, I'm gonna tell
you something, man, he said, I love playing for Chicago.
And he told me, just like this, I cannot stand
Mike Dick. I will and I don't want to go
another team. I just cannot stand him, and I don't
want to be playing for another team. So I'm just
gonna retire.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Boom. That was it. And even Walter, I mean, he
didn't have this huge, huge fan ferry.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Just it wasn't like that now, you know, you got
social media and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You know, it was like back.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
In our there was on maybe ABC, CBS, oh so
and so retired, blah blah, and they had a standing,
you know, the ceremony for him.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
But that was it. But now it's like a big deal.
But you're not understand Fred.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
The Dodgers are different from the Dodgers are like the
Cowboys and based in football, that's a whole different animal.
It's certain teams that if you retire from you, if
you retire from the Padres, let's say you're talking, you
think it's gonna be like like like like the Dodgers
gonna do it, and you say, you played eighteen years
the Padres.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
You know, if you retire from the Cincinnati Bengals, you
think it's gonna be a big fan fan? Oh, absolutely,
of the Browns. Absolutely, the Clowns, I call them absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
It just don't.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
It don't work like that. It's just certain. It's certain
organizations that they just that's who they are. You know,
they're iconic and you know they're players. Even if you
don't like the player, you still respect the player.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I also think that look, when Otani decides he's gonna
walk away, and by the way, he's on a tear.
When O'tani decides that he's gonna walk away, I think
from a national standpoint, he'll be celebrated in an incredible way.
I don't think he'll get it locally here like Clayton
Kershaw got it because Clayton's like And that's That's always
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been the thing that I point to people when they
talk about you know what is like how a Laker
fans feel about Lebron, Well, they feel he's not Kobe
because Kobe.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Was a Laker.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Lebron's more of a mercenary. Clayton Kershaw is a Dodger.
And this is not knocking O Tani. He clearly made
the right decision. But I don't think that locally he'll
be celebrated and they'll be the place in the heart
of the fans like there were for Kershaw, because that's
a long ass time to be grinding, and not all
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those years were great years, and not all the moments
were great moments. I mean, he went through COVID he
like you just you go back and look at that draft.
Some of the other guys that were that were drafted
around him, all of them ended up going at like
Evan Longoria ended up going to their places, and Kershaw,
you know, number seven pick in two thousand and six,
still with the Dodgers and came back this year. And
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I don't know what the expectations were. I think he's
far exceeded the expectations.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, yes, right, yep, yeah, And that's.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Right, Jonas. You're making a point. Anybody that stayed from
big start to end would be celebrated, that's what you're saying.
Anybody had had any longevity to him ten years. Let's
say you've played ten years for one team. It's different
than if you were signed as a free agent, came
in and played ten years.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yeah, I mean I think that if you are like
Freddie Freeman, when he decides to walk away, he'll be celebrated,
not to this level. Same with Mookie Betts, same with
like Kershaw's. Really, if you go back to the to
the guys from this era that were the founding fathers,
if you will, from this era, who's left? I mean who,
like you know, like you can go back to Justin
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Turner wasn't drafted here and he ended up elsewhere. Seeger
ended up elsewhere, Bellinger ended up elsewhere, Like if you
look at Kenlee Jansen ended up elsewhere. Like Kershaw's the
guy who's been here the entire time. And that's almost
two decades worth of ups and downs and championships and
Cy Young's and Hall of Fame and look, and I'll
say this, I mean that pitch could have hit Devers,
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they would have called it a strike. Okay. I think
I think everybody knew, everybody knew the assignment, and everybody
knew the job in hand make that a strike. It
clearly was not a strike. You could look at the
box on the screen. Clearly it was not. And I
think Rafael Devers looked around and was like, all right, whatever, dude.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Okay, it's a strike.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Okay, hell you got it. And Churso was like, give
me that bab out of here. So it was kind
of kind of funny to see how that played out.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It was Enberg, the late great Dick Enberg would always
say there's something romantic about starting and finishing in the
same place.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Eric I agree, I agree.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I mean, it's just like he just said, It's like,
it's like Michael strahand sacking Brett Fahr like, and it
was like, Okay, is that a sack? Is that a laydown?
It is? I mean, it's nothing like playing for an
organization the whole time. I never had that. I wish
I would have. That's why I think I have such
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an allegiance to my college. You know, I think most
most players you know to play college football, they have
really allegiance to their university because you only play four
years there. You know, you have to play four years there,
but you know you have a bond with those guys
that never change. You know that you have just would
have nothing else. And if you play on a team
for eighteen years, think about that for eighteen years, that
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is a long long time. I mean the players for
one team for eighteen years. I mean, you've had a
lot of ups and downs. And like I say, and
it's the Dodgers. That's the big thing. It is the
LA Dodgers. It's it's not like any other organization. I
keep going back to. It's like the Cowboys. You might
not like the Cowboys. And I told you before I
even looked it up. I looked it up two years ago.
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The most hated team in Major League Baseball, LA Dodgers.
And why you think they hated? Because they got the
fan base and they win. That's it.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, they went over four million fans this year.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
What do you think the Angels? What do you the
Angels are going to do for Mike Trout when he
decides to walk away. What are they going to give him,
like a hundred dollars gift card to the Dollar Tree
or something.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I had a boy at a boy.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I mean, I mean think about I mean when when
when when O'tany was with the Angels, I would always say,
man if he was a Dodger, saying if he was
a Dodger, he was a Dodger.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
And I mean, what do you do for Mike Trout
if you.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Really think about it?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
First of all, Mike Trout, god bless, great player, but
you know, suffers from what I've always said, long term deals,
these gigantically long term deals, more often than not have
diminishing returns. And now here we are he's been hurt.
I mean, a great player, but injured, then injured, lost
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a step, then injured, and he's not remotely close to
the player he was so at the point of his retirement,
and assuming the Angels are as god awful as they
continue to be, and that would mean they would be
god awful for more years to come.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Kevin's right here? Do you have to talk like that
about him?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Come on?
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Is that ru Fred is saying the things that I'm thinking.
It's quite all right? Okay, ten straight losing seasons, by
the way, so they have that to hang their hat on.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
So there you go, congratulations, right, So I mean if
they continue like that, what do you do for a
guy like that?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Seriously?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I mean, he's not going to get better, His skills
are going to continue to a road, They're going to
be awful. Someone's going to call in the dogs. And
at that point in time, what.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Do you do? I mean, what do you give him
a rocking chair?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
What about if they design a ride at Disneyland for him?
I'm just saying, like, design design a ride for him?
That'd be pretty sweet.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
And what's the ride going to be?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I don't know my knee? Come on, Fred, he can't help.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Ronnie rot up. A great point is that the right
would just break down every five minutes, So.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
That's not nice.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
But you know what, Fred, that that is a good question.
I mean, because Mike Trout is a great baseball player.
I have to say the same thing about him. I said,
man if he was a Dodger Man, but you know
it is, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
They missed that window. Yeah you think Mike Trout would
be a great addition to your team. No, he really wouldn't.
Can't stay healthy. And it's not his fault. It's not
like he goes out there and it's not like Anthony Rendell.
Does Anthony Rendon have one more year, Kevin?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Or does.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Anthony Rendon has another year?
Speaker 6 (33:46):
I love him, I believe so I love him.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Could they him.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
I mean, yeah, they have to pay all the salary.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah, Fred, And then he had a DF pay him right,
like you talk about somebody who figured it out. Guys
like you know what, I want to go win a
World Series. I want to be really really great. I
want to be in the MVP conversation one year. I
want to get the bag. I want to move to
southern California and then everybody here can kiss my ass,
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like literally, And he's just gotten paid ever since it's great.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Thirty eight million dollars next year?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Will he play next year?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Damn?
Speaker 6 (34:23):
First of all, First of all, doesn't matter. That's one
considering where the Angels are just as an organization in general.
And two, if he does, he wasn't productive when he
did play for them, So what does it matter?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
And you can't it's not like it's not like basketball.
He can't buy him out right.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
I mean, I guess you could. You probably reach some
sort of agreements so that, hey, we can pay you
a certain percentage. I'm not one hundred percent sure how
the CBA works in baseball, but my guess as you could.
But if you're him, why would you. He's been cravy,
He's been gravy training at thirty five plus million dollars
for the last four years, doing literally nothing.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Why would I give thirty million?
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Taking thirty five this year, Eric, and then I think
he makes thirty eight?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
What does he do all day?
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I'd like to know what he does?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Count his money exactly?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah, what do you mean? The snow Angels one, two, three,
sixty fair is? They were asking it one time. They're,
you know, about like all his struggles or something along
the lines of, you know, do you feel it? And
He's just like, no, listen, my priority is to my
faith in my family. I mean sorry, that's that's my priorities.
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If anybody doesn't like that, then they don't like it.
It's like, you know what. First of all, he's one
hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Correct, Yeah right.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Secondly, he's got generational wealth. He's got no issues. That
guy's going to be out of the game before he's
forty years old, and he's going to have almost three
hundred million dollars in the bank. He figured it out, man,
like hegan the highlight of his Angels career, didn't he
punch some guy with a cast on Kevin?
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
In Oakland? Yeah, a fight with a fan in Oakland.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yes, there's that, There's that, there's you know, there was
a skirmish by the dugout and he was throwing punches
with a mush guy man. Yeah, oh my gosh, I
love him. I love Anthony Rendone.
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Speaker 3 (37:19):
You're gonna love it.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Uh, Okay, guys talking at Justin Herbert's leged girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Can I Can I say something? Can I say something?
It's It's amazing how how things are now. Like I
think about Justin Herbert having this young lady as his girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
What's her name again? What's her name? Madison Beer?
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Madison Beer. Back in our day, See, we couldn't get
to we couldn't get to a girl like Madison Beer
unless you did. You know, wasn't no social media, you know.
I'm thinking about, you know, only way you got you
have to go out and meet a girl. You have
to go out, you know, and having to run into
a like I'm not ran into not Paul that do God,
I can't think it was one of the Prince's girls.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
And I'm like, I got a phone number, you know,
but you.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Know, now you can you can reach out to a
girl on social media and say hey, I want to
meet you, and I got my agent put us together
with your agent. But it's way way different. I'm like, wow,
dating has really changed.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Back then we had to rap, you know, you know,
you know, with wrapping this red you talk to a girl.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I could just see you going up, Hey baby, what's up?
My name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, that's how I would do it there, That's exactly
how I rolled.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, Yeah, what's your name? What's that? My name is Fred.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Look, let me change something. Nobody Nobody with the name
of Fred would talk that way. Nobody go hey, baby,
what's up? I'm Fred?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Nobody all right? Oh, a brother would because you know,
we know we got that sweat. Baby. What's up baby?
How you doing? What's your name? My name is Fred.
What's your name? You probably Hi? My name is Hi.
My name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I don't know if it was that high pitch to
be what's what's your name?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Anyway? What's your sign? What's your thanks?
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I mean listen.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Fred's got a reputation, man, I mean for sure he does.
Fred quite quite the ladies man. And and I will
say this about about Madison Beer. Definitely open minded. She's
definitely open minded. Uh, she does have a has a
little bit of a past. She's uh, she's willing to
try anything and h and had a phase that was.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Okay, let me let me let me look her up.
What's the name again, Madison? There's not not a plate
ticket to know everybody.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
No, listen, you know, guy gal whatever, like they just
you know, like she's uh, you know, she's really open
minded to stuff. And I think it's you know, to
find it within her heart to h to be open
minded to uh to justin Herbert, I think she's really
really onto something here.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I was, I'm looking at it. I was six.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
I'd be after medicine beech them, are you kidding me?
I'd be like, hey, BG, what's up Ben? Anyway, Okay,
I just had to say that.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I mean, I listen, I think it's I think that's
you know, that's the most important part of all this.
I mean, you can find it does feel I'll say this,
and I know this is gonna seem crazy. That game
they should not have won yesterday. The Chargers should not
have won that game yesterday. They were they were awful
for majority of that game. Justin Herbert didn't look good.
They finally get a home game with the world's largest gazebo.
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They're there, they're struggling against Denver, and somehow, someway they win.
And now you look at them and you go, all right,
it's one thing if they're three and oh, they're three
and oh against the division They had to go to Brazil,
which was difficult. They had to go to Vegas, you know,
on on Monday night, which you know, the team's not
all that difficult, but it's still a road game. And
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they figure out that game against Denver. You start out
the year three and oh and they're all divisional wins.
That's a massive advantage for them, especially considering the Chiefs
don't look like the same Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
I told you that, Fred, Then I tell you the
Chiefs Chiefs look they look they look old. I mean,
I know they got receivers missing. I know she Rice
is missing. I can't think of the other receiver that's
missing right now.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
He's out.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
But you know, they just don't look the same. Even
the defense does not look the same. I mean, playing
the Giants last night, I mean they're a giant, so
I expected them to beat the Giants, but you know.
But you know the thing about winning football games is
we don't care how you win it, Jones, don't you
win it? It could be ugly pretty like just like
the Ram. The Rams should have won that game. But
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I say lose to say that all the time. And
but the Chargers found a way to win that football game.
I give them credit. You know, I still say that
that that that nice little team across town. But they
won that football game, and that's all that counts.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
I'm not sure there's so little anymore. Eric, they still little,
they still little. Come on, man, let's be for real.
Charge ain't got no real, no real fan base. I mean,
let's be for real. That's like, that's you know, that's like,
that's like comparing the Angels fan base to the Dodgers
fan base. And that might be a little taken a little,
but come on, man, come on, dog, come on, you
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don't you don't have to see no charges of stuff
walking around l A. I mean, if they were San
Diego like they should still be most definitely. And then look,
the Charges have a good football team. I'm not saying,
you know, you know, down playing that their team, but
they're in l A Man. Nobody wanted that. Nobody wanted
the Chargers in time. I mean, seriously, I mean they
should be in San Diego. I mean they shouldn't be
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in LA. The LA Chargers. I still call them the
San Diego Chargers, but they're the l A Chargers.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
I don't have a time.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
I know, it's just hard to say it. I mean,
that's like if the Angels came to l A. All
of a sudden, we got the La.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Angels in LA. Like what as they believe they belong
in Anaheim? What they're doing up here?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
No, I get that.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
I have to tell you though, I do think they
have at the very least increased their footprint in the market.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I think they have done that.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
And I also think if you find a way to
win a game like they did yesterday Jonas, I mean
that could mean something that they are now to a
point where they can do that. They're now to a
point where you've got to take them really seriously.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Look a look at Fred, after all these years of
bearing the organization, just welcoming the Chargers into his arms
and just saying, listen, I'll give you a hug. You know,
if you could just do that with the Clippers as
soon as they figure out whether or not, you know,
this whole Kawhi Leonard thing is something to discuss. I mean, look,
you know, I think this is You're You're showing a
different side of yourself. You're not so callous, You're not
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so cold anymore. And I don't know if it's got
anything to do with the Madison beer pictures that you
looked up, but I just think, I look, I think
this is this is a brand new Rogan here, welcoming
in the Chargers to uh to the to the successful
land of La Sports.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Well, to be fair, Jonas, I think I have pointed
out in the past have increased their footprint here. I
think I've said that, and it's hard to argue the
early success they've had this year.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Man Fred's a bat. He's a b W.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
What's that bandwagoner? And not a BMW either, it's a
b BMW either. Oh god, Eric, all right, let's see
they're winning. I'll call right now, they're winning the AFC West.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
By the way, you can't deny they've increased their footprint,
but there still was a hell of a lot of
orange that so fi it says a lot for your
home opener.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Fred I got to go back to one thing too.
I cannot believe last week you had this. You started
off with the baby deal. The baby, Well, you said
the baby had CPR. I'm still I thought about that yesterday.
I'm like, and the baby was a damn raccoon. I'm like,
what are you talking about, man, I'm thinking it's a
real baby, a baby. Yes, well, how did you start it? Yes,
(45:03):
a baby was found in a dumpster. I'm like, oh
my god, a baby found in a dumpster. And then
he goes on and we and riding was talking about
the baby said a raccoon.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
I'm like, a raccoon.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
All right, Well, well we'll talk about it. We'll talk
about when we come back to an NFL Spotlight is
presented by four.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Jonas.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
I'll explain it to
Speaker 3 (45:23):
You when we come back, and we'll also leave into
the doctor pitching situation.
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