September 23, 2025 • 43 mins
We discuss Blake Treinen's recent issues and talk about who we feel the Dodgers can actually trust to get big outs in the postseason. Also, the Chargers are 3-0 and are winning games that they would normally lose - is it the Harbaugh effect?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So here we go two hours for us today, fred Rogan,
Rodney's off the Salta. Adam Auslan is sitting in Adam,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's good? Freddy? Going to be back with you. It's
been too long, I think a couple of months here,
So let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I know. Now, let's let's take a second here before
we get started and give a shout out to your
show with Kevin, which can be heard on Saturday marts.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Okay, technically you might be right in some areas because
we cross over from late Friday night into Saturday morning,
so it's Friday night starting at eleven pm into two
am on Fox Sports Radio FNA on FSR. Freddy, Finally,
the FNA podcast is streaming nationally everywhere and in the
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air everywhere. As Ben Maller would say.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
All right, and how's it going, Adam, It's going well.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I mean, it's the same show we've been doing for
damn near ten years. We're just finally being recognized for it.
So it is a blessing. Thank you Scott Shapiro, thank
you Brian Long, Thank you Fred for bringing it up
here and giving us a little bit of promotion because
Kevin and I have been working pretty damn hard.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah you have, Yeah you have. And congratulations on doing
it and the success. You know, I say to Kevin
all the time. I know when you guys were first
getting started, you know, they'd give you a shout out.
You know, you get a call from the boss and
you say, hey, I gotta tell you, guys, doing a
great job, a great job. But now the reality of
being in the business, now you got the job. You
don't hear from anybody.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm fine with that. No news is good news, Freda.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Not the exact words I gave to you the other
day when we talked about it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's exactly right. I don't want to hear from anybody.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm strangely comfortable with them just winding us up and
letting us go at this point, fred we're good with it.
We're good with it.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah. The thing is, it's like when the boss calls,
the first thing you think is what's wrong? F me,
The very first thing you think is what's wrong? What
did I do?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, because it doesn't happen that often. But we're fine
with it. Scott Shapiro has been communicating with us for
a while, telling us how much he likes the show.
So we've been very well supported, you could say, Fred,
so again, thanks for bringing it up. Kevin and I
F and A on FSR on Fox Sports Radio Friday
nights into Saturday morning.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
All right, let's get to it. Jama Rodgers in Arizona
as they begin the final leg of the season. They've
got the Diamondbacks and they've got the Mariners San Diego
clinch last night, they're in. They're in. So now we
know that the Padres are officially in. It's just gonna
come down to who wins the West. As we get
going now, concerns for the Dodgers at them. They're hitting
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the ball better, that's good. Starting pitching is good. But
now it's the bullpen.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's the opposite of last season, Fred, Right, going into
the playoffs last year, everything was the concern regarding the
starting pitching. They figured it out, they pass worked it together.
It was the bullpen that saved them. Remember that game
for the bullpen game in San Diego to save their season.
Now it looks like the starters are gonna have to
do their part.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, they are. And that's how they built the team, Adam.
They built the team at the beginning of the year
with good starting pitching. Starting pitching will win in the playoffs.
Let's remember that. And right now the Dodgers have the
best starting pitching in baseball because everybody is healthy. Let's
acknowledge that. But the starters aren't going to go nine hittings.
And what we have seen is problems with the bullpen.
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At the trade deadline, Dylan Hernandez and Bill Plashki boats
wrote they need to go out and get an arm,
a closer, somebody to help the bullpen out. Andrew Friedman
basically stayed firm. They made one move. They got Rock
Stewart from Minnesota, who immediately got hurt. But he will
be ready. He will be ready to come back, and
they're going with what they have now. The other day,
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Blake Trining gave up that home run three runs, and
I thought to myself, he doesn't seem like the same
guy he seemed like last year. Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
David Basset has been talking about this for a while.
He thinks because of what happened last season with him
being overtaxed in the playoffs, it has had a carryover
effect or residual effect where he's got a dead arm
maybe or he's not pushing off his back leg as
much to get that explosion. Look, he still has moments
where he's throwing whiffle balls out there, but he's not
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getting enough swing and misses with him losing that game.
The last five games the Dodgers have lost, they have
been on Blake trining, hence the booze going on on
Sunday as unfortunately he lost another one. Now I'll get
to the part where Dave Roberts. I don't mind him
throwing him out there because you got to see what
you have in him. But he hasn't looked the same.
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And we're talking about historically bad stuff as of late.
Digging back to nineteen twelve, this is a first a
losing pitcher in each of a team's last five losses.
For that to happen five straight times recently, that hasn't
happened since at least nineteen twelve. Fred, So this is
unsharded territory. But I think what Dave Roberts is looking for,
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and you can say what you want. Their magic number
is three. They're gonna end up winning the division here
one way or another with wins or padres losses. Dave
Roberts needs evidence, he needs data points. He needs to
see who he can trust. I think there's a real
tryout and audition going on the rest of this week
with guys coming out of the bullpen, with guys returning.
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Roki Sazaki is gonna be available tomorrow in that game
after coming out of the bullpen, and okay, see he
looked very good, but he hasn't really done this before.
This is like a real opportunity for multiple guys to
show Dave Roberts what they can do. It's a high
pressure situation actually for bullpen guys right now to prove themselves.
And Blake Trining while I think he's gonna be on
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the playoff roster regardless because of how reliable he's been,
not just last season in the playoffs for them, going
back to twenty twenty. That's why Dave Roberts is leaning
on him. You can say, hey, Walker Bueller was terrible
for them in the regular season last year, did that
matter the playoffs? No, he ended up finding his playoff stuff.
He's relying on the same thing to happen with Blake Trinon.
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That's what Dave Roberts is chasing. I think a lot
of fans want to see them win every game, understandably,
but Dave Roberts will lose a battle to try to
win the war. And that's what we saw on Sunday
with Blake trying it. He didn't have to bring him
out there. He did. He's given him another chance. He's
gonna get more chances before this week is over.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, I don't know if he lost the battle to
win the war. And here's why, because who do you
go to? I mean, that's really the issue here, who
do you bring in?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
All Right?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Tanner Scott is a crap shoot. We know that now
he could he could come out and mope people down
and then you know, with two down, give up a
three run. Homer Kirby Yates has not resembled anything like
the guy that they thought would come in here and
led the American leagues and saved last year. Eat nothing
not remotely close. Now you're to Blake Trump. Blake Trinan
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does throw wiffleballs and was unhittable at the end last year,
but it's also safe to say he's been hurt this year.
He finally gets back and he has not resembled that
one bit one bit. So the concern now is your
starters are going to get you to where you need
to be, unlike last year where you had no starters.
But then what that becomes the issue now? And I
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understand he's gonna roll guys out and see if he
can trust him. I'm just wondering, is he to a
point where he already knows who we can trust? How
much is going to change in a week at him.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I think a lot actually could, just because they have
guys coming back right now. You mentioned Rock Stewart, I
mentioned Roki Sazaki and Gardal. What can they get out
of him? Alex Vessi has looked good, Bonda's look good.
They do have some guys that are pitching well. And
guess what, Emma Shean He's going to be in the
bullpen or a long relief guy when the playoffs start.
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Of course, he was the one taken out on Sunday
after he give it up just one hit to the
Giants for Blake Trining. But he's looked remarkable. I heard
David Vassey compare him to Frod from the Angels in
two thousand and two, who came out of nowhere and
ended up being one of the most important pitchers on
their way to being the giants in the playoffs and
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in the World Series. So there are guys that can
rise up. They are. It's concerning, no doubt, Fred, because
they're reform riting this thing. They're building the plane as
they're flying it here a little bit. They're trying to
figure this out on the fly. But we've seen him
do it before, have we not? How did they get
by last season? We all said after Stone went down,
after Gavin Stone was down, that's it straw that broke
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the camel's back. The Dodgers just it's not their year.
Too many injuries. Well, now they have a plethora of
starting pitching. Even ough Tani is probably gonna have opportunities
to come out and to close out game out of
the pen, some of those guys are going to shift
over to being relievers and trying. And I'm not giving
up on him yet. I'm not giving up on Tanner Scott.
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He hasn't given up a run in his last four outings.
And actually, if you look at his playoff history and
his track record there, Fred, he has not given up
a run in five and a third in the playoffs
in his career. He hasn't done it with the Dodgers.
He's had a bad season. But I do think something
can switch, a flip, a switch can be flipped in
the playoffs for some of these guys that have had
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success in the past.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Well that's a question. Funny given everything that's happened this year,
And by the way, I think going through the adversity
this year has helped the Dodgers. In years where they've
just cruised, they get they get beaten the playoffs. In
years where they have to battle, they do pretty well.
And at the end of the day, it really could
go as scripted. Let's just think about the year and
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its totality. Great start, Suddenly guys get hurt, they struggle,
they're up, they're down, they can't hit, they don't have
any starting pitching all right. Then they start to get
the starting p back. They go on a little run,
but they're inconsistent. Then you start hitting, but you have
bullpen problems. It only matters what happens starting next week,
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that's all. And if you're right, if you're right, and
the bullpen somehow comes together and Tanner Scott becomes the
guy they give a four year deal to for eighty
million bucks or whatever it is, Kirby Yates somehow magically
becomes the guy that they signed during the offseason.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'll be honest, I think he's Outfred, I think he's cooked.
I don't know if he's gonna. They're not paying him
seventy two million dollars like Tanner Scott. They don't know
what else they have. I think they've seen enough of him.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Okay, well he's done.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well what about Kyle Hurt, Will Klein? They have other
guys who they don't have the history. They haven't pitched
a ton this season, but live arms, guys that can
hit triple digits. They do have some of them. Still.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, I'm saying if that comes around, do you know,
if that happens and the bullpen works, the season will
have gone as scripted and the Dodgers will win the
World Series because right now, as you start laughing, no,
seriously believe it. Right now, they've got the best pitching,
the best starting pitching period. I would take their staff
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over anybody's right now. So there's that they're hitting all
of a sudden outside Yeah, I mean they're hitting.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Okay, there's that rookie Bets's back. Max Munsey's back from injury.
They look much better at the top of the lineup.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, they're hitting, there's pitching there. If the bullpen can
do its job defensively, they're not making the mistakes they
made earlier in the year. If the bullpen does its job,
it literally will go as scripted. And that is insane
to think given what they have been through all season long.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Well, I hear the Dodgers like scripts. I mean, doesn't
Dave Roberts just take the script from the front office
and just do every everything according to that when it
comes to managing during a game. They love scripts. This
couldn't even happen in Hollywood, Like, come on, Freddy, that's
your time.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But to be honest and to be fair, Yeah, when
Dave Roberts started, everything was pretty much charted out. It was.
But I think as he became more confident, as Andrew
Friedman became more confident in him, and Dave got to
know the players better. Dave is managing the club.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Are they making the decisions together before the game? Sure
they are.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
You can't anticipate in the line. You can't anticipate everything.
What he did with Blake Snell recently, letting him stay
on the mound. I think that is something that's going
to translate into the playoffs where if the bullpen is struggling, well,
guess what you mentioned it the starting pitching best in
the league. So why not lean on those guys a
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little bit more, a little bit longer, especially somebody like
Blake Snell because he's fiery, because he's a gamer, because
he got screwed in the World Series against the Dodgers
for the Tampa Bay Rays when they took him out
too early. So I do think to your point, Dave
Roberts doesn't get enough credit. We're going with his gut
and going with feel out there as he's you know,
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gained more experience as a manager.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
The key and if this happens, it'll be crazy, It
really will. If Roki Sazaki comes out of the bullpen
and does the job. The secret weapon, yeah, the secret weapon.
Look to be fair. When the season began, he was
all over the place. Now when he was on, you
can't touch him, you can't figure out what he's throwing.
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I mean, he is a magician.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Andrew Friedman said in the spring training or even maybe
back in winter ball, that he believes he can end
up being the best picture on the planet someday. That's
the type of stuff you're talking about. Was Sazaki.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
We saw him in Japan against the Cubs. He was
all over the place. But when he was on he
made them look silly. I mean he did. He made
major league hitters look silly. Now, the problem was, you know,
he made him look silly every fourth pitch. The other
ones were all over the place. And that's my concern
with him coming out of the bullpen. Now, maybe he's
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worked on it down there in Oka se and maybe
maybe he's figured it out for now. But my concern
about SAZZANKI given what we saw earlier, and I know
it's different now. I mean you didn't know what was happening.
He could strike three guys out and walk seven in
a row. He just did not have a grasp of
the control yet Key developed that.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Your guy Joe Kelly, he had some of those tendencies
out there. Fred an adventure you could say.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, And aside from one good run with Joe Kelly,
it was terrifying every time he went out to pitch.
I mean terrified.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I didn't mean to take you down that road. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And on top of that, Adam during that terror, more
often than not, it went south. They can't afford that.
But they can't afford that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Now they have to see what they they have to get.
Look at him this week to see if he's capable,
because the reports are his velocity is back up, his
fastball is at ninety eight. He's going to pitch in
relief a couple of times this week. This is it.
This is Roki Sazaki. This is his opportunity to be
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able to show what he can do in a different role.
But still, I do think the Dodgers have enough talent
coming out of the pen to reformat things, to figure
this out as they have in the past, because they're
just so damn talented that they can make a run
and turn weaknesses into strengths. That's what we have seen
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in the past with this group. Fred they have figured
it out at just the right time. They're gonna have
to do so with the bullpen. But they have a
lot of arms to choose from. They're not like Blake Tryning,
Tanner Scott. If these guys aren't throwing well, I understand
you're in a wild card series. It's best out of three.
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It's all high leverage. Your margin for error is very small.
They don't have to go to them. They do have
other options. Because you got thirteen pitchers you're gonna be
able to use in that first round Wildcard series fret.
Dave Roberts is going to have some live arms at
his disposal that haven't had years where their era is
over five.
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Speaker 1 (17:18):
All right, Adam Ouslin in today for Rodney an AM
five to seventy LA Sports Dodger fans. So you get
to make the call here, this is the deal. You're
going to the bullpen. Now, you know who's good, you
know who's not, you know who's struggling, you know who
has it. So if you're making the decision, you're walking
out to the mound, You're not gonna do Alex Vassi
a run out and then turn around and run back
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into the bullpen. That's not gonna happen. When you go
out there, you're calling for somebody. Who are you gonna
call for? Go ahead?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
At him?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Ghostbusters? Uh Shane and Adelanto Shane, what's up? Who do
you trust?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yes? I trust uh Sheehan And I can't stand Yates.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I feel like Kirby is on the outs. I'm sorry,
but he's thirty eight years of age. Last year was
an outlier for him.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, you might have it right down the middle. He
throws it right down the middle. And that's I'm tired
of that right, I'm tired of that. And as far
as sea Han, he's been money for like over a
couple of months now, So I like it. I mean,
so you're.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Gonna bring Shan out of the bullpen in a safe situation?
Is that what you're saying. You're going to bring him
into the game, You're in a safe situation. You're gonna
make him like the clothes.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Absolutely, maybe you want to like the fourth starter or
something like that, or you know, like like a starter
that might be coming in that the other three I've
already started and it's it's game five or something like that.
And yeah, I trust Sheean for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay, appreciate the call.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Hey, he's having a great year. Fred I understand the
trust with him. It makes sense. It's just he's kind
of been versatile enough to where you feel like, coming
out of the bullpen, he'll get it done for you.
But they're still unknowns with that playoff experience.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
No, I listen, I see him as a long guy.
To be honest with you, I see him coming in.
Somebody's getting beat up early he's in. Somebody just doesn't
have it tonight him or reheart inning, second inning he's
in Yeah, long run, That's what I say. I don't
see him coming into the eighth inning.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We'll see. I mean, if he doesn't have Trying, if
he doesn't have Tanner Scott, if he doesn't have some
of the guys he's supposed to be relying on. Maybe
Emma Seen is that guy. We'll see. All right, what
do we got here? Angel? And you're Belinda Angel? You'on
Rogan and Rodney? Who do you trust?
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Good afternoon, gentlemen. Uh, there's several guys that I trust
to be on the roster. But if I needed the
three outs, I'm going with Vessia or even Dryer.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Oh, Gryer has.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Faced very well, and don't forget about show him. If
you need three outs and you have a lead, you
don't need his bat, So you send him to the bullpen,
have him get ready, and you bring him in in
the ninth to close out the game.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Okay, I hear you. Let me ask you this, what
if they make him a starter?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
I don't like him as a starter right now because
I think we have enough starting pitching with Snell, Yamamoto,
Glass Naw has picked very well lately and Kershaw. So
we know that Roberts is very very loyal to those guys.
You guys talked about Trying in earlier. He's going to
be on the roster because Roberts is very loyal. So
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Trying is going to be on the roster. Even though
he hasn't pitched well. His command has not been good,
control has not been good. I don't like Showhey as
a starter, but I love him. If we need three outs,
four outs, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, So now look at it like this that you
bring it up, and thanks for the call. Look at
it like this. You got a two out of three,
two out of three, right, and anything can go. You
better have pretty good pitching. And that's where the Dodgers
will be two out of three? Yeah, who are the three?
And you assume they're going to open against the Mets?
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Who are the three? Game one starter? Who is it?
Yamamoto or Snell? All right, you take Yamamoto, I would
take Snell. Who would you take in game two? Would
just flip them?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Okay, So there's two. Now who's three.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Otani? Okay, honestly, I think Otani's starting before Kershaw starting
a game with the playoffs, I.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You know what I thought, Kershaw should get the ball early.
But now I will err on the side of what
you're saying. I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Kershaw's long relief. If somebody's getting blown out, he's coming
into the ball game. If somebody's getting blown up early on,
Kershaw could come in and try to calm the waters.
That's what Clayton Kershaw is going to be. I think
that's going to be his role.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
So well, if all right, if it gets to Game
three with Otani pitching, Let's assume the Dodgers win the
first two. But if it gets the game three, oh,
Tani's only going so far. Dave Roberts has said that,
and I believe that maybe a little longer now, but
not much. That's when you go to san.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, I agree with that. I think that's smart. I
think that role will suit him. And you can just
connect one guy to the next here with some live ball.
Those both those guys throw gas red. Both those guys
are going to be in those positions where it's high leveraged,
there's traffic on the bays pass bass paths, and they
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can get it done for you. I do believe that. Yeah,
Imshian's gonna be a secret weapon too, Like this is
the thing. Dave Roberts has options coming up, unknowns, but
good options. I think we're gonna find out a lot. Uh,
Noah and Downey, Noah, you're on Ruggan and Rodney. It's
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Adam Aslin And for Rodney, Pete, what's up now?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
How are we doing?
Speaker 6 (23:01):
So?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I need If we need three outs and I'm the manager,
I'm going to Jack Dryer for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Here's the thing about Jack Dryer. Freddy does not exactly
have that playoff experience you're looking for to be the
closer right now? Do you feel that comfortable to get.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I get that, But for three outs this year, I
feel like he's been dominant and if we just need
those three big outs, we've seen it in the past,
We've seen the dominance. I believe with the experience that
he's got in the regular season, he could transfer that
to the postseason and he could be a key piece
for our run this year.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
No I appreciate the call. Thanks thanks for calling.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Isn't the all sure thing? Vesia here? He did it
last year in the playoffs, right.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
But I'll say this about what Noah said. I like
Jack Dryer. I like him a lot and I think
Dave Roberts will use him in high leverage situations. I
think Noah's onto it. He'll use him high leverage situations.
Roll him out there. He will. Granted he doesn't have
the playoff experience at him, but my got he's pitching
almost every game.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You can't have it until you do, right. So it's
unfair to criticize some of these young guys for not
having been in the situation before. You got to give
them that experience and give them an opportunity. But, as
I mentioned earlier, in a three game series best of three,
that's dicey. That's high leverage all the time. Your margin
for error is slim. Felix and San Diego, what do
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you got here? On Rogan and Rodney? Who do you trust?
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Felix was having a hey listen, check this out, guys.
Funny thing. I didn't even have to mention the name
of the person who I don't trust, evin you right
off the bat, He's like, man, I eough to mention it.
My girlfriend calls him the ball guy with the beard.
I just say he who shall not be named at
this point.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Trust yeah, no the other guy, but yeah, but Yeates
is not as just as bad. No, but listen, as
far as who I trust, three outs plain and simple.
I've been saying it since June, guys, and that she Han,
she hands earned it. I'm with you. I'm with you, guys,
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with the whole getting Otani to start and have him
be the bridge. Maybe do what Urias did in twenty twenty,
do the like eighth and the ninth. But as far
as Vesia, I mean high nineties, you can't go wrong
with Vesia, Vessi or she Han. I trust that guy
(25:33):
named I didn't want to mention his name, but I
don't trust him one bit him and he can take
Yates with him.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Baltimore from Harry Potter one who will not be named.
What are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Blake Trining, who I don't believe is bald. So I
don't know where that came from.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, that was a little bit. Threw me off quite
a bit there. I don't know Fred. I know Dave
Roberts still trusts him. Implicitly, he said quote, once you
get to the postseason and then nothing else matters except
competing and doing your job. I do think that Trining
is caught up in the mechanic part of it, and
the thought is the performance in the postseason. The success
(26:10):
in the postseason has been fantastic, and sometimes there is
something that kind of triggers in your mind, the familiarity
the competition, and you get on a run and get hot.
That's what we're expecting from Blake. All right, you know
what bothers me a lot. Well, yeah, but right now,
in the last twenty two seconds, Okay, give it to me.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Let me tell you what the problem is. The mechanics.
The mechanics are the problem. When they weren't hitting, what's wrong.
It was the mechanics. That's what the problem is. Really,
let me tell you something. You're not having any problems
with your mechanics. Now, you're a major league pitcher getting
paid a lot of money to be put into pressure situations.
This is not the time to go. You know, I
(26:51):
gotta be honest with you. I didn't realize this. My
mechanics are off. No they're not. Your mechanics are not off.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
No, you're saying he's making excuse for something that isn't
the problem here.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's not your mechanics. You've pitched for years. How did
your mechanics suddenly fall apart? Why not the problem, Mooky.
What's wrong? What's my mechanics? Your mechanics. No, no, it's
not your mechanics. Well, I gotta do this and adjust that.
Just go hit the ball trying. You can do it
(27:25):
or you can't. It's pretty simple. Tanner Scott, you know
what the problem is? What is that? Well, I'm just
putting the ball over the plate. You think that's a problem.
Is that mechanical? Or you're putting the ball down the
middle of the plate. That's not mechanics.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Sometimes I'm throwing it over the middle. Sometimes guys need
an adjustment. Fred out there pictures. Listen to Tyler Glass. Now,
everything they try to do with him over the years
to try to fix him, it does happen. And it's
also probably a confidence lift. It's not that you're broken.
You can be fixed. Everything's fixable. Right now, you're gonna
be okay. We're gonna get together eventually.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Here.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's what he's saying. He's got to do something or else.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
These guys are never gonna.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Be able to turn around. I don't blame them.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
We got anybody else.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Oh God, Mitch and new Jerzy. Mitch, Mitch, you're on
Rogan and Rodney. Who do you trust?
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Hitter, I'm Fred and I won't be here talking to someone.
You know, I think the stars one doesn't get the start, Mitch.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Mitch, let me ask you.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
I don't wait, Mich, Wait all right, here's the question.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Who is your cell phone carrier? Who do you use?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh, do you know mobile?
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
And mobiles? Great? Everybody loves T mobile. I don't have it,
but I'm sure everybody loves it.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Mitch.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Why does it always sound like you're calling from outer space?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
It's so.
Speaker 9 (29:01):
Well? Okay, well right now, I don't know why I'm
always doing so. I'm not home in the room. I'm
watching the gym here and then, you know, getting myself
to work out. I'd rather do other things, eat, talk
to you guys.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You're at the gym.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
You're at the gym.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
At the gym.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
Yeah, I'm pregnant away from people that don't have to
look at me. Funny, but I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
What is your What is your workout program? Mitch? This
is good. Adam is very much into fitness, So tells
helped me out?
Speaker 9 (29:29):
I see you help me out, Send me your secrets
and I'll try. I do some listening I gotta I
gotta hit replace in my right so I gotta watch
another hip I got tennis album, I left arm. I
just got over my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Sound like a future pitcher with all these injuries you
got going on here, Mitch, that's what it sounds like
to be Tommy John is imminent.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
He's he's got a bad a bad elbow. What else, Mitch?
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I mean, my chief, where's gout?
Speaker 9 (30:05):
No, I'm sorry, No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Let's talk to you, guys.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
I'm fine. I'm keeping busy.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Give, for the love of God, give us one pitcher
that you trust coming out of the pen for the
Dodgers right now.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
She an't, And I want I want kersher to start
warning these games. Maybe not round one, but round two.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
All right, thanks, Mitch.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
That's a nostalgia play. People who want Clayton Kershaw out there.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I wanted him to pitch.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well, Fred, you're full too, like that's a nostalgia play.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
No, no, not, when I wanted him to pitch, it wasn't.
It was real.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You have the starting pitching. You have guys that are
definitively better than Clayton Kershaw right now, you don't have
to go to him. To save the day to be
John Wayne. It's not necessary.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I didn't want him to save the day and be
John Wayne. I really thought he deserved to be in there.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, I'm not saying he isn't gonna pitch. He will,
but if he's starting a game, something else probably went wrong.
Right starting Kershaw in twenty twenty five in a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I know he's had a.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Good year, but they have the horses now. Starting pitching
isn't the problem. The bullpen is.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Let him help there, maybe a pinch hit.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
If Madison Bumgardner was pitching to him, he'd take him deep.
I mean twenty thirteen Clayton Kershaw, he was taking batting
practice and hit a home run. There it is and
his last at bat recently.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
So that's why that's why the home run derby should
be pitchers.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I agree with you there. This is one of those
changes Baseball should have made years ago.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Pitchers should be in the home run derby. Oh did
you see the story about the automated strike zone.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's about damn time. Fred. I know you're on board
with the robots something.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Wait a minute, you didn't want it. If I remember correctly, If.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You I've warned it since two thousand and five. Fred
I remember watching Levon Hernandez in nineteen ninety seven pitch
for the Florida Marlins at the time and get a
strike zone that would have made Leslie Nielsen blush in
naked gun. I'm talking stuff there two feet out of
the zone. He's getting called strikes against the Atlanta Braves
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in the NLCS. This stuff has decided World Series champions before.
I'm telling you, we have had the technology for at
least twenty years now to get it right. If you
can get it right, do it right. This is still
just a small step towards full robot. I am robot takeover,
and we need it now.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So here's the way it's going to work. You get
two challenges. It can be the pitcher, the catcher, or
the hitter, and it's got to be immediate.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
That's kind of interesting. Not the manager.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
No, No, you can't do that. You can't look to
the dugout and nobody can scream from the side. Well,
that's your helmet. That's it.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Houston are definitely going to try to go around that.
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Oh, of course they will know that. So you get two.
If you get it right, you retain it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Thank goodness, if you miss it.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
You lose that one. Now, if you're if you're in
a game and the guy working to play is having
a bad night, which to be fair, a number of
them have had bad nights. You could challenge twelve pitches
and as long as you've got them right, you retain
your challenge. The concern is if you challenge and lose it,
(33:33):
then you only have one left right.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
So you're going to be choosy and judicious when you're
challenging something. It's going to have to be a big pitch,
a big moment. They're going to want to hold on
to those. That's what it's going to be. So I
don't think it's going to slow down the game much.
I don't think you're going to see teams getting up
to twelve challenges because they keep getting it right over
and over again. I mean, we got some bad umps
here and there, but that's pretty bad, I.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
Will say too, even if you do challenge it. They
did it in the All Star Game this year. I
took a quarter of a second. It's just like tennis. Basically,
the tennis replay, it takes no time. It's not gonna
slow the down the game down at all?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I like, how many? Okay, how many challenges do you
think as we sit here now and it's coming next year?
So that's done. By the way, there's the six person committee,
four management owners or six management owners I think four players,
so it's ten ten on the committee. All the owners
voted for it and the players didn't, so too late
(34:28):
it passed my majority. Anyway, how many challenges do you
think a team will get? Right in the game, the
guy behind the plate struggling, You think a team will
get five challenges?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
All right, it'll happen at some point. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
And if they do. If somebody challenges five times and
gets every single one of them, right, what do you
say to that playdown player?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
You're the reason we're gonna have full robots eventually. This
is on you. This is your fault. Angel earn it.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Okay. Culture is a big thing. It can make a difference,
and we'll talk about a culture shift next.
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Speaker 1 (35:38):
All right, here we go, Today's afternoon Delight, Adam, you
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Speaker 2 (35:44):
That's not a real name.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It's Children of the Baked Potato by Thundercat. That name right, that.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Is the name?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
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Go ahead, all right? Sing your songwriter recruited Remy Wolf
as a featured artist on this track that pays homage
to the Baked Potato Jazz Club and Studio City. There
you go. You've been to the Baked Potato.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
No, Fred, I don't know, never been. Safely, let me
drop your name and they'll maybe let me in.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
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Speaker 1 (36:18):
You know what I do?
Speaker 10 (36:20):
You know what they serve at the Baked Potato, Fred, chicken? Yeah, exactly,
all right, nothing but baked potatoes. From what I understand,
I have not been there, but I have heard this.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
It's really a cool place. I do know that a
lot of people have gone the music's great.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, a lot of jazz fans for sure.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah. In a statement, he said, Remy is a child
of the Baked Potato.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Like me.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
She knew exactly what the song needed, and it was
wild to watch her make it happen. The more I
listened to the song, It's clear there was no better
I could have picked. Again. Today's afternoon Delight is Children
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Resort Casino. Adam, are you surprised by the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I'm surprised They've cleaned out their own division already. This
is the best three and zero you can have. You
beat everyone in your division already. Case. Nah, they went
down a week one, then it was the Raiders, then
Denver in dramatic fashion on Sunday. Honestly, Fred, even though
the football gods continue to treat them like the Chargers.
(37:35):
The Chargers are not treating themselves like the Chargers. You
can't control injuries, but the self inflicted wounds they are
doing away with. They're finding ways to actually win late.
There is a toughness about them, maybe established in a
second season now under Jim Harbaugh, they just look different
out there. They're finding ways to win instead of losing
those games that they traditionally have.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
They look confident. That's what it is. They look like
a Jim Harbaugh coach team. Yeah, it really makes a
difference if you think about it. He's been successful everywhere
he's ever been. Now, they spent money to sign him,
and they spent a lot of money to sign him,
and that would be considered very quote unquote uncharger like,
(38:16):
but they did it because they understood, look, Adam, they
need to compete in this marketplace, and they were the
second team in I think they'd done a great job.
Eric Dickerson would argue the fact that little team and
they don't really have the fan base.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Nice little team over there.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, I think that their footprint has grown. I think
they've done a pretty good job, to be very honest
with you, and it's tough to overcome the Rams juggernaut
Kevin demof running that thing with Stan Kronk's money. That's tough.
They know what they're doing, they get it, and they
can spend on whatever they want. Chargers didn't have that
(38:53):
ability really because the Spanos family isn't as liquid in
cash as the Rams and stan Kronkey. So they took
a big swing with herball and you see the results.
And they have a quarterback too.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
That's the real difference here. We're not just talking about
Justin Herbert being a good young quarterback who could project
to be an MVP someday. He's in the conversation. He's
at the front of the line. That throw that he
made to Keenan Allen shuffling to his left and just
a rocket launcher to the end zone that was unbelievable.
He went eight of nine the last two drives of
(39:31):
that game, so then eventually set up the Dicker the
Kicker game winning field goal against the Broncos. Justin Herbert
coming off a miserable playoff game last season against the Texans,
a game they shouldn't have lost. Herbert that hasn't carried
over at all. It looks like he has a newfound confidence.
And you remember Jim Harbaugh said in the offseason, like
(39:52):
he woke up in the middle of the night in
a cold sweat and realized, I have to make Justin
Herbert a Hall of Fame quarterback. That's his MISSI and
he's on his way right now. They still have to
win in the playoffs. They still have to prove it there,
of course, but he had room to grow in the
regular season just to be in the MVP conversation like
he is. Now. This is different. Now they're comparing him
(40:14):
to Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and these other guys.
It's impressive. And if you want to win in LA
you got to have a superstar like that. Fred.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, And the thing about Justin Herbert, what happened in
the playoffs last year was awful and he could have
gone one way one way or the other after that
because he's got all the talent in the world. He
is a top five when he's firing an all cylinders quarterback,
but he's not been able to put it together in
the big moment and last year got at the exclamation point.
(40:44):
So this year was a big year for him. He
needed to step up lead and when need be as
with the pass to Keenan Allen win games. I mean,
how many wins are your quarterbacks worth? That's really how
you evaluate them. How many games are they worth. You're
not gonna win every game, but type games you will
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if you've got the guy. That's what he's trying to
establish this year, that he is that guy, that he
will be the guy to win you the game when
it's close and you have an opportunity. I think if
he can do that, then he has gone over the hump.
He's fine, and I think they have a very good
year and a chance to go pretty deep into playoffs
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if he continues to play this way.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Well, we mentioned how they're three to zero, first time
since two thousand and two for the Chargers. Now, they
ended up only winning eight games that season. I don't
foresee that happening to this team that was back with
Drew Brees and Ladanian Tomlinson. Fred. Look at the AFC
right now, there are only six AFC teams that have
a winning record currently. The conference is way down. They
(41:52):
could end up with a top two seed easily. They're
on track for that. Get the number one seed, get
a bye, can't lose a playoff game. If you gotta vibe,
that's what cures the Chargers right there, everything's set up
for them. The Ravens look flawed. They lose again last night.
The Bills still have injuries out there. They're winning, but
(42:12):
the Chargers look like the second best team at worst
right now in the AFC and their defense. And what's
crazy is they've had injuries already. That's what I mean.
The football gods are still giving them no favors. But
the Chargers actually aren't wilting to that adversity for once.
You look at what happened before the season even started
(42:33):
with Rashaun Slater going out, and then it was uh
Khalil Mack and now they've lost a running back and
they just continue to win anyways. That to me shows
they're willing to push through whatever adversity is in their way.
And it looks like that is you mentioned Jim Harbass
stamp of approval type of team where there's just a
different level of mental toughness to you, like we've never
(42:55):
seen with the Chargers. Now, it's only three games, but
so far, so good.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Okay, A two hour program for us today. One down,
when we come back, Vinnie bind Signior will join the programmer.
We'll talk more NFL
So here we go two hours for us today, fred Rogan,
Rodney's off the Salta. Adam Auslan is sitting in Adam,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's good? Freddy? Going to be back with you. It's
been too long, I think a couple of months here,
So let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I know. Now, let's let's take a second here before
we get started and give a shout out to your
show with Kevin, which can be heard on Saturday marts.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Okay, technically you might be right in some areas because
we cross over from late Friday night into Saturday morning,
so it's Friday night starting at eleven pm into two
am on Fox Sports Radio FNA on FSR. Freddy, Finally,
the FNA podcast is streaming nationally everywhere and in the
(00:42):
air everywhere. As Ben Maller would say.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
All right, and how's it going, Adam, It's going well.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I mean, it's the same show we've been doing for
damn near ten years. We're just finally being recognized for it.
So it is a blessing. Thank you Scott Shapiro, thank
you Brian Long, Thank you Fred for bringing it up
here and giving us a little bit of promotion because
Kevin and I have been working pretty damn hard.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah you have, Yeah you have. And congratulations on doing
it and the success. You know, I say to Kevin
all the time. I know when you guys were first
getting started, you know, they'd give you a shout out.
You know, you get a call from the boss and
you say, hey, I gotta tell you, guys, doing a
great job, a great job. But now the reality of
being in the business, now you got the job. You
don't hear from anybody.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm fine with that. No news is good news, Freda.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Not the exact words I gave to you the other
day when we talked about it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's exactly right. I don't want to hear from anybody.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm strangely comfortable with them just winding us up and
letting us go at this point, fred we're good with it.
We're good with it.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah. The thing is, it's like when the boss calls,
the first thing you think is what's wrong? F me,
The very first thing you think is what's wrong? What
did I do?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, because it doesn't happen that often. But we're fine
with it. Scott Shapiro has been communicating with us for
a while, telling us how much he likes the show.
So we've been very well supported, you could say, Fred,
so again, thanks for bringing it up. Kevin and I
F and A on FSR on Fox Sports Radio Friday
nights into Saturday morning.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
All right, let's get to it. Jama Rodgers in Arizona
as they begin the final leg of the season. They've
got the Diamondbacks and they've got the Mariners San Diego
clinch last night, they're in. They're in. So now we
know that the Padres are officially in. It's just gonna
come down to who wins the West. As we get
going now, concerns for the Dodgers at them. They're hitting
(02:34):
the ball better, that's good. Starting pitching is good. But
now it's the bullpen.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's the opposite of last season, Fred, Right, going into
the playoffs last year, everything was the concern regarding the
starting pitching. They figured it out, they pass worked it together.
It was the bullpen that saved them. Remember that game
for the bullpen game in San Diego to save their season.
Now it looks like the starters are gonna have to
do their part.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, they are. And that's how they built the team, Adam.
They built the team at the beginning of the year
with good starting pitching. Starting pitching will win in the playoffs.
Let's remember that. And right now the Dodgers have the
best starting pitching in baseball because everybody is healthy. Let's
acknowledge that. But the starters aren't going to go nine hittings.
And what we have seen is problems with the bullpen.
(03:21):
At the trade deadline, Dylan Hernandez and Bill Plashki boats
wrote they need to go out and get an arm,
a closer, somebody to help the bullpen out. Andrew Friedman
basically stayed firm. They made one move. They got Rock
Stewart from Minnesota, who immediately got hurt. But he will
be ready. He will be ready to come back, and
they're going with what they have now. The other day,
(03:43):
Blake Trining gave up that home run three runs, and
I thought to myself, he doesn't seem like the same
guy he seemed like last year. Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
David Basset has been talking about this for a while.
He thinks because of what happened last season with him
being overtaxed in the playoffs, it has had a carryover
effect or residual effect where he's got a dead arm
maybe or he's not pushing off his back leg as
much to get that explosion. Look, he still has moments
where he's throwing whiffle balls out there, but he's not
(04:16):
getting enough swing and misses with him losing that game.
The last five games the Dodgers have lost, they have
been on Blake trining, hence the booze going on on
Sunday as unfortunately he lost another one. Now I'll get
to the part where Dave Roberts. I don't mind him
throwing him out there because you got to see what
you have in him. But he hasn't looked the same.
(04:38):
And we're talking about historically bad stuff as of late.
Digging back to nineteen twelve, this is a first a
losing pitcher in each of a team's last five losses.
For that to happen five straight times recently, that hasn't
happened since at least nineteen twelve. Fred, So this is
unsharded territory. But I think what Dave Roberts is looking for,
(05:03):
and you can say what you want. Their magic number
is three. They're gonna end up winning the division here
one way or another with wins or padres losses. Dave
Roberts needs evidence, he needs data points. He needs to
see who he can trust. I think there's a real
tryout and audition going on the rest of this week
with guys coming out of the bullpen, with guys returning.
(05:23):
Roki Sazaki is gonna be available tomorrow in that game
after coming out of the bullpen, and okay, see he
looked very good, but he hasn't really done this before.
This is like a real opportunity for multiple guys to
show Dave Roberts what they can do. It's a high
pressure situation actually for bullpen guys right now to prove themselves.
And Blake Trining while I think he's gonna be on
(05:45):
the playoff roster regardless because of how reliable he's been,
not just last season in the playoffs for them, going
back to twenty twenty. That's why Dave Roberts is leaning
on him. You can say, hey, Walker Bueller was terrible
for them in the regular season last year, did that
matter the playoffs? No, he ended up finding his playoff stuff.
He's relying on the same thing to happen with Blake Trinon.
(06:06):
That's what Dave Roberts is chasing. I think a lot
of fans want to see them win every game, understandably,
but Dave Roberts will lose a battle to try to
win the war. And that's what we saw on Sunday
with Blake trying it. He didn't have to bring him
out there. He did. He's given him another chance. He's
gonna get more chances before this week is over.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, I don't know if he lost the battle to
win the war. And here's why, because who do you
go to? I mean, that's really the issue here, who
do you bring in?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
All Right?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Tanner Scott is a crap shoot. We know that now
he could he could come out and mope people down
and then you know, with two down, give up a
three run. Homer Kirby Yates has not resembled anything like
the guy that they thought would come in here and
led the American leagues and saved last year. Eat nothing
not remotely close. Now you're to Blake Trump. Blake Trinan
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does throw wiffleballs and was unhittable at the end last year,
but it's also safe to say he's been hurt this year.
He finally gets back and he has not resembled that
one bit one bit. So the concern now is your
starters are going to get you to where you need
to be, unlike last year where you had no starters.
But then what that becomes the issue now? And I
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understand he's gonna roll guys out and see if he
can trust him. I'm just wondering, is he to a
point where he already knows who we can trust? How
much is going to change in a week at him.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I think a lot actually could, just because they have
guys coming back right now. You mentioned Rock Stewart, I
mentioned Roki Sazaki and Gardal. What can they get out
of him? Alex Vessi has looked good, Bonda's look good.
They do have some guys that are pitching well. And
guess what, Emma Shean He's going to be in the
bullpen or a long relief guy when the playoffs start.
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Of course, he was the one taken out on Sunday
after he give it up just one hit to the
Giants for Blake Trining. But he's looked remarkable. I heard
David Vassey compare him to Frod from the Angels in
two thousand and two, who came out of nowhere and
ended up being one of the most important pitchers on
their way to being the giants in the playoffs and
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in the World Series. So there are guys that can
rise up. They are. It's concerning, no doubt, Fred, because
they're reform riting this thing. They're building the plane as
they're flying it here a little bit. They're trying to
figure this out on the fly. But we've seen him
do it before, have we not? How did they get
by last season? We all said after Stone went down,
after Gavin Stone was down, that's it straw that broke
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the camel's back. The Dodgers just it's not their year.
Too many injuries. Well, now they have a plethora of
starting pitching. Even ough Tani is probably gonna have opportunities
to come out and to close out game out of
the pen, some of those guys are going to shift
over to being relievers and trying. And I'm not giving
up on him yet. I'm not giving up on Tanner Scott.
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He hasn't given up a run in his last four outings.
And actually, if you look at his playoff history and
his track record there, Fred, he has not given up
a run in five and a third in the playoffs
in his career. He hasn't done it with the Dodgers.
He's had a bad season. But I do think something
can switch, a flip, a switch can be flipped in
the playoffs for some of these guys that have had
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success in the past.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Well that's a question. Funny given everything that's happened this year,
And by the way, I think going through the adversity
this year has helped the Dodgers. In years where they've
just cruised, they get they get beaten the playoffs. In
years where they have to battle, they do pretty well.
And at the end of the day, it really could
go as scripted. Let's just think about the year and
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its totality. Great start, Suddenly guys get hurt, they struggle,
they're up, they're down, they can't hit, they don't have
any starting pitching all right. Then they start to get
the starting p back. They go on a little run,
but they're inconsistent. Then you start hitting, but you have
bullpen problems. It only matters what happens starting next week,
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that's all. And if you're right, if you're right, and
the bullpen somehow comes together and Tanner Scott becomes the
guy they give a four year deal to for eighty
million bucks or whatever it is, Kirby Yates somehow magically
becomes the guy that they signed during the offseason.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'll be honest, I think he's Outfred, I think he's cooked.
I don't know if he's gonna. They're not paying him
seventy two million dollars like Tanner Scott. They don't know
what else they have. I think they've seen enough of him.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Okay, well he's done.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well what about Kyle Hurt, Will Klein? They have other
guys who they don't have the history. They haven't pitched
a ton this season, but live arms, guys that can
hit triple digits. They do have some of them. Still.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, I'm saying if that comes around, do you know,
if that happens and the bullpen works, the season will
have gone as scripted and the Dodgers will win the
World Series because right now, as you start laughing, no,
seriously believe it. Right now, they've got the best pitching,
the best starting pitching period. I would take their staff
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over anybody's right now. So there's that they're hitting all
of a sudden outside Yeah, I mean they're hitting.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Okay, there's that rookie Bets's back. Max Munsey's back from injury.
They look much better at the top of the lineup.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, they're hitting, there's pitching there. If the bullpen can
do its job defensively, they're not making the mistakes they
made earlier in the year. If the bullpen does its job,
it literally will go as scripted. And that is insane
to think given what they have been through all season long.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Well, I hear the Dodgers like scripts. I mean, doesn't
Dave Roberts just take the script from the front office
and just do every everything according to that when it
comes to managing during a game. They love scripts. This
couldn't even happen in Hollywood, Like, come on, Freddy, that's
your time.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But to be honest and to be fair, Yeah, when
Dave Roberts started, everything was pretty much charted out. It was.
But I think as he became more confident, as Andrew
Friedman became more confident in him, and Dave got to
know the players better. Dave is managing the club.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Are they making the decisions together before the game? Sure
they are.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
You can't anticipate in the line. You can't anticipate everything.
What he did with Blake Snell recently, letting him stay
on the mound. I think that is something that's going
to translate into the playoffs where if the bullpen is struggling, well,
guess what you mentioned it the starting pitching best in
the league. So why not lean on those guys a
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little bit more, a little bit longer, especially somebody like
Blake Snell because he's fiery, because he's a gamer, because
he got screwed in the World Series against the Dodgers
for the Tampa Bay Rays when they took him out
too early. So I do think to your point, Dave
Roberts doesn't get enough credit. We're going with his gut
and going with feel out there as he's you know,
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gained more experience as a manager.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
The key and if this happens, it'll be crazy, It
really will. If Roki Sazaki comes out of the bullpen
and does the job. The secret weapon, yeah, the secret weapon.
Look to be fair. When the season began, he was
all over the place. Now when he was on, you
can't touch him, you can't figure out what he's throwing.
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I mean, he is a magician.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Andrew Friedman said in the spring training or even maybe
back in winter ball, that he believes he can end
up being the best picture on the planet someday. That's
the type of stuff you're talking about. Was Sazaki.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
We saw him in Japan against the Cubs. He was
all over the place. But when he was on he
made them look silly. I mean he did. He made
major league hitters look silly. Now, the problem was, you know,
he made him look silly every fourth pitch. The other
ones were all over the place. And that's my concern
with him coming out of the bullpen. Now, maybe he's
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worked on it down there in Oka se and maybe
maybe he's figured it out for now. But my concern
about SAZZANKI given what we saw earlier, and I know
it's different now. I mean you didn't know what was happening.
He could strike three guys out and walk seven in
a row. He just did not have a grasp of
the control yet Key developed that.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Your guy Joe Kelly, he had some of those tendencies
out there. Fred an adventure you could say.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, And aside from one good run with Joe Kelly,
it was terrifying every time he went out to pitch.
I mean terrified.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I didn't mean to take you down that road. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And on top of that, Adam during that terror, more
often than not, it went south. They can't afford that.
But they can't afford that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Now they have to see what they they have to get.
Look at him this week to see if he's capable,
because the reports are his velocity is back up, his
fastball is at ninety eight. He's going to pitch in
relief a couple of times this week. This is it.
This is Roki Sazaki. This is his opportunity to be
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able to show what he can do in a different role.
But still, I do think the Dodgers have enough talent
coming out of the pen to reformat things, to figure
this out as they have in the past, because they're
just so damn talented that they can make a run
and turn weaknesses into strengths. That's what we have seen
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in the past with this group. Fred they have figured
it out at just the right time. They're gonna have
to do so with the bullpen. But they have a
lot of arms to choose from. They're not like Blake Tryning,
Tanner Scott. If these guys aren't throwing well, I understand
you're in a wild card series. It's best out of three.
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It's all high leverage. Your margin for error is very small.
They don't have to go to them. They do have
other options. Because you got thirteen pitchers you're gonna be
able to use in that first round Wildcard series fret.
Dave Roberts is going to have some live arms at
his disposal that haven't had years where their era is
over five.
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Speaker 1 (17:18):
All right, Adam Ouslin in today for Rodney an AM
five to seventy LA Sports Dodger fans. So you get
to make the call here, this is the deal. You're
going to the bullpen. Now, you know who's good, you
know who's not, you know who's struggling, you know who
has it. So if you're making the decision, you're walking
out to the mound, You're not gonna do Alex Vassi
a run out and then turn around and run back
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into the bullpen. That's not gonna happen. When you go
out there, you're calling for somebody. Who are you gonna
call for? Go ahead?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
At him?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Ghostbusters? Uh Shane and Adelanto Shane, what's up? Who do
you trust?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yes? I trust uh Sheehan And I can't stand Yates.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I feel like Kirby is on the outs. I'm sorry,
but he's thirty eight years of age. Last year was
an outlier for him.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, you might have it right down the middle. He
throws it right down the middle. And that's I'm tired
of that right, I'm tired of that. And as far
as sea Han, he's been money for like over a
couple of months now, So I like it. I mean,
so you're.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Gonna bring Shan out of the bullpen in a safe situation?
Is that what you're saying. You're going to bring him
into the game, You're in a safe situation. You're gonna
make him like the clothes.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Absolutely, maybe you want to like the fourth starter or
something like that, or you know, like like a starter
that might be coming in that the other three I've
already started and it's it's game five or something like that.
And yeah, I trust Sheean for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay, appreciate the call.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Hey, he's having a great year. Fred I understand the
trust with him. It makes sense. It's just he's kind
of been versatile enough to where you feel like, coming
out of the bullpen, he'll get it done for you.
But they're still unknowns with that playoff experience.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
No, I listen, I see him as a long guy.
To be honest with you, I see him coming in.
Somebody's getting beat up early he's in. Somebody just doesn't
have it tonight him or reheart inning, second inning he's
in Yeah, long run, That's what I say. I don't
see him coming into the eighth inning.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We'll see. I mean, if he doesn't have Trying, if
he doesn't have Tanner Scott, if he doesn't have some
of the guys he's supposed to be relying on. Maybe
Emma Seen is that guy. We'll see. All right, what
do we got here? Angel? And you're Belinda Angel? You'on
Rogan and Rodney? Who do you trust?
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Good afternoon, gentlemen. Uh, there's several guys that I trust
to be on the roster. But if I needed the
three outs, I'm going with Vessia or even Dryer.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Oh, Gryer has.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Faced very well, and don't forget about show him. If
you need three outs and you have a lead, you
don't need his bat, So you send him to the bullpen,
have him get ready, and you bring him in in
the ninth to close out the game.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Okay, I hear you. Let me ask you this, what
if they make him a starter?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
I don't like him as a starter right now because
I think we have enough starting pitching with Snell, Yamamoto,
Glass Naw has picked very well lately and Kershaw. So
we know that Roberts is very very loyal to those guys.
You guys talked about Trying in earlier. He's going to
be on the roster because Roberts is very loyal. So
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Trying is going to be on the roster. Even though
he hasn't pitched well. His command has not been good,
control has not been good. I don't like Showhey as
a starter, but I love him. If we need three outs,
four outs, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, So now look at it like this that you
bring it up, and thanks for the call. Look at
it like this. You got a two out of three,
two out of three, right, and anything can go. You
better have pretty good pitching. And that's where the Dodgers
will be two out of three? Yeah, who are the three?
And you assume they're going to open against the Mets?
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Who are the three? Game one starter? Who is it?
Yamamoto or Snell? All right, you take Yamamoto, I would
take Snell. Who would you take in game two? Would
just flip them?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Okay, So there's two. Now who's three.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Otani? Okay, honestly, I think Otani's starting before Kershaw starting
a game with the playoffs, I.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You know what I thought, Kershaw should get the ball early.
But now I will err on the side of what
you're saying. I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Kershaw's long relief. If somebody's getting blown out, he's coming
into the ball game. If somebody's getting blown up early on,
Kershaw could come in and try to calm the waters.
That's what Clayton Kershaw is going to be. I think
that's going to be his role.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
So well, if all right, if it gets to Game
three with Otani pitching, Let's assume the Dodgers win the
first two. But if it gets the game three, oh,
Tani's only going so far. Dave Roberts has said that,
and I believe that maybe a little longer now, but
not much. That's when you go to san.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, I agree with that. I think that's smart. I
think that role will suit him. And you can just
connect one guy to the next here with some live ball.
Those both those guys throw gas red. Both those guys
are going to be in those positions where it's high leveraged,
there's traffic on the bays pass bass paths, and they
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can get it done for you. I do believe that. Yeah,
Imshian's gonna be a secret weapon too, Like this is
the thing. Dave Roberts has options coming up, unknowns, but
good options. I think we're gonna find out a lot. Uh,
Noah and Downey, Noah, you're on Ruggan and Rodney. It's
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Adam Aslin And for Rodney, Pete, what's up now?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
How are we doing?
Speaker 6 (23:01):
So?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I need If we need three outs and I'm the manager,
I'm going to Jack Dryer for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Here's the thing about Jack Dryer. Freddy does not exactly
have that playoff experience you're looking for to be the
closer right now? Do you feel that comfortable to get.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I get that, But for three outs this year, I
feel like he's been dominant and if we just need
those three big outs, we've seen it in the past,
We've seen the dominance. I believe with the experience that
he's got in the regular season, he could transfer that
to the postseason and he could be a key piece
for our run this year.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
No I appreciate the call. Thanks thanks for calling.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Isn't the all sure thing? Vesia here? He did it
last year in the playoffs, right.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
But I'll say this about what Noah said. I like
Jack Dryer. I like him a lot and I think
Dave Roberts will use him in high leverage situations. I
think Noah's onto it. He'll use him high leverage situations.
Roll him out there. He will. Granted he doesn't have
the playoff experience at him, but my got he's pitching
almost every game.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You can't have it until you do, right. So it's
unfair to criticize some of these young guys for not
having been in the situation before. You got to give
them that experience and give them an opportunity. But, as
I mentioned earlier, in a three game series best of three,
that's dicey. That's high leverage all the time. Your margin
for error is slim. Felix and San Diego, what do
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you got here? On Rogan and Rodney? Who do you trust?
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Felix was having a hey listen, check this out, guys.
Funny thing. I didn't even have to mention the name
of the person who I don't trust, evin you right
off the bat, He's like, man, I eough to mention it.
My girlfriend calls him the ball guy with the beard.
I just say he who shall not be named at
this point.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Trust yeah, no the other guy, but yeah, but Yeates
is not as just as bad. No, but listen, as
far as who I trust, three outs plain and simple.
I've been saying it since June, guys, and that she Han,
she hands earned it. I'm with you. I'm with you, guys,
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with the whole getting Otani to start and have him
be the bridge. Maybe do what Urias did in twenty twenty,
do the like eighth and the ninth. But as far
as Vesia, I mean high nineties, you can't go wrong
with Vesia, Vessi or she Han. I trust that guy
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named I didn't want to mention his name, but I
don't trust him one bit him and he can take
Yates with him.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Baltimore from Harry Potter one who will not be named.
What are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Blake Trining, who I don't believe is bald. So I
don't know where that came from.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, that was a little bit. Threw me off quite
a bit there. I don't know Fred. I know Dave
Roberts still trusts him. Implicitly, he said quote, once you
get to the postseason and then nothing else matters except
competing and doing your job. I do think that Trining
is caught up in the mechanic part of it, and
the thought is the performance in the postseason. The success
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in the postseason has been fantastic, and sometimes there is
something that kind of triggers in your mind, the familiarity
the competition, and you get on a run and get hot.
That's what we're expecting from Blake. All right, you know
what bothers me a lot. Well, yeah, but right now,
in the last twenty two seconds, Okay, give it to me.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Let me tell you what the problem is. The mechanics.
The mechanics are the problem. When they weren't hitting, what's wrong.
It was the mechanics. That's what the problem is. Really,
let me tell you something. You're not having any problems
with your mechanics. Now, you're a major league pitcher getting
paid a lot of money to be put into pressure situations.
This is not the time to go. You know, I
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gotta be honest with you. I didn't realize this. My
mechanics are off. No they're not. Your mechanics are not off.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
No, you're saying he's making excuse for something that isn't
the problem here.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's not your mechanics. You've pitched for years. How did
your mechanics suddenly fall apart? Why not the problem, Mooky.
What's wrong? What's my mechanics? Your mechanics. No, no, it's
not your mechanics. Well, I gotta do this and adjust that.
Just go hit the ball trying. You can do it
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or you can't. It's pretty simple. Tanner Scott, you know
what the problem is? What is that? Well, I'm just
putting the ball over the plate. You think that's a problem.
Is that mechanical? Or you're putting the ball down the
middle of the plate. That's not mechanics.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Sometimes I'm throwing it over the middle. Sometimes guys need
an adjustment. Fred out there pictures. Listen to Tyler Glass. Now,
everything they try to do with him over the years
to try to fix him, it does happen. And it's
also probably a confidence lift. It's not that you're broken.
You can be fixed. Everything's fixable. Right now, you're gonna
be okay. We're gonna get together eventually.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Here.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's what he's saying. He's got to do something or else.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
These guys are never gonna.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Be able to turn around. I don't blame them.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
We got anybody else.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Oh God, Mitch and new Jerzy. Mitch, Mitch, you're on
Rogan and Rodney. Who do you trust?
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Hitter, I'm Fred and I won't be here talking to someone.
You know, I think the stars one doesn't get the start, Mitch.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Mitch, let me ask you.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
I don't wait, Mich, Wait all right, here's the question.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Who is your cell phone carrier? Who do you use?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh, do you know mobile?
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
And mobiles? Great? Everybody loves T mobile. I don't have it,
but I'm sure everybody loves it.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Mitch.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Why does it always sound like you're calling from outer space?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
It's so.
Speaker 9 (29:01):
Well? Okay, well right now, I don't know why I'm
always doing so. I'm not home in the room. I'm
watching the gym here and then, you know, getting myself
to work out. I'd rather do other things, eat, talk
to you guys.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You're at the gym.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
You're at the gym.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
At the gym.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
Yeah, I'm pregnant away from people that don't have to
look at me. Funny, but I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
What is your What is your workout program? Mitch? This
is good. Adam is very much into fitness, So tells
helped me out?
Speaker 9 (29:29):
I see you help me out, Send me your secrets
and I'll try. I do some listening I gotta I
gotta hit replace in my right so I gotta watch
another hip I got tennis album, I left arm. I
just got over my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Sound like a future pitcher with all these injuries you
got going on here, Mitch, that's what it sounds like
to be Tommy John is imminent.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
He's he's got a bad a bad elbow. What else, Mitch?
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I mean, my chief, where's gout?
Speaker 9 (30:05):
No, I'm sorry, No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Let's talk to you, guys.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
I'm fine. I'm keeping busy.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Give, for the love of God, give us one pitcher
that you trust coming out of the pen for the
Dodgers right now.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
She an't, And I want I want kersher to start
warning these games. Maybe not round one, but round two.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
All right, thanks, Mitch.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
That's a nostalgia play. People who want Clayton Kershaw out there.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I wanted him to pitch.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well, Fred, you're full too, like that's a nostalgia play.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
No, no, not, when I wanted him to pitch, it wasn't.
It was real.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You have the starting pitching. You have guys that are
definitively better than Clayton Kershaw right now, you don't have
to go to him. To save the day to be
John Wayne. It's not necessary.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I didn't want him to save the day and be
John Wayne. I really thought he deserved to be in there.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, I'm not saying he isn't gonna pitch. He will,
but if he's starting a game, something else probably went wrong.
Right starting Kershaw in twenty twenty five in a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I know he's had a.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Good year, but they have the horses now. Starting pitching
isn't the problem. The bullpen is.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Let him help there, maybe a pinch hit.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
If Madison Bumgardner was pitching to him, he'd take him deep.
I mean twenty thirteen Clayton Kershaw, he was taking batting
practice and hit a home run. There it is and
his last at bat recently.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
So that's why that's why the home run derby should
be pitchers.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I agree with you there. This is one of those
changes Baseball should have made years ago.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Pitchers should be in the home run derby. Oh did
you see the story about the automated strike zone.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's about damn time. Fred. I know you're on board
with the robots something.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Wait a minute, you didn't want it. If I remember correctly, If.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You I've warned it since two thousand and five. Fred
I remember watching Levon Hernandez in nineteen ninety seven pitch
for the Florida Marlins at the time and get a
strike zone that would have made Leslie Nielsen blush in
naked gun. I'm talking stuff there two feet out of
the zone. He's getting called strikes against the Atlanta Braves
(32:18):
in the NLCS. This stuff has decided World Series champions before.
I'm telling you, we have had the technology for at
least twenty years now to get it right. If you
can get it right, do it right. This is still
just a small step towards full robot. I am robot takeover,
and we need it now.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So here's the way it's going to work. You get
two challenges. It can be the pitcher, the catcher, or
the hitter, and it's got to be immediate.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
That's kind of interesting. Not the manager.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
No, No, you can't do that. You can't look to
the dugout and nobody can scream from the side. Well,
that's your helmet. That's it.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Houston are definitely going to try to go around that.
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Oh, of course they will know that. So you get two.
If you get it right, you retain it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Thank goodness, if you miss it.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
You lose that one. Now, if you're if you're in
a game and the guy working to play is having
a bad night, which to be fair, a number of
them have had bad nights. You could challenge twelve pitches
and as long as you've got them right, you retain
your challenge. The concern is if you challenge and lose it,
(33:33):
then you only have one left right.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
So you're going to be choosy and judicious when you're
challenging something. It's going to have to be a big pitch,
a big moment. They're going to want to hold on
to those. That's what it's going to be. So I
don't think it's going to slow down the game much.
I don't think you're going to see teams getting up
to twelve challenges because they keep getting it right over
and over again. I mean, we got some bad umps
here and there, but that's pretty bad, I.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
Will say too, even if you do challenge it. They
did it in the All Star Game this year. I
took a quarter of a second. It's just like tennis. Basically,
the tennis replay, it takes no time. It's not gonna
slow the down the game down at all?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I like, how many? Okay, how many challenges do you
think as we sit here now and it's coming next year?
So that's done. By the way, there's the six person committee,
four management owners or six management owners I think four players,
so it's ten ten on the committee. All the owners
voted for it and the players didn't, so too late
(34:28):
it passed my majority. Anyway, how many challenges do you
think a team will get? Right in the game, the
guy behind the plate struggling, You think a team will
get five challenges?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
All right, it'll happen at some point. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
And if they do. If somebody challenges five times and
gets every single one of them, right, what do you
say to that playdown player?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
You're the reason we're gonna have full robots eventually. This
is on you. This is your fault. Angel earn it.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Okay. Culture is a big thing. It can make a difference,
and we'll talk about a culture shift next.
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Speaker 1 (35:38):
All right, here we go, Today's afternoon Delight, Adam, you
love this Children of the Baked Potato by Thundercat.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
That's not a real name.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It's Children of the Baked Potato by Thundercat. That name right, that.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Is the name?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, what keep reading, You'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Go ahead, all right? Sing your songwriter recruited Remy Wolf
as a featured artist on this track that pays homage
to the Baked Potato Jazz Club and Studio City. There
you go. You've been to the Baked Potato.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
No, Fred, I don't know, never been. Safely, let me
drop your name and they'll maybe let me in.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Do you know what I've do?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
You know what I do?
Speaker 10 (36:20):
You know what they serve at the Baked Potato, Fred, chicken? Yeah, exactly,
all right, nothing but baked potatoes. From what I understand,
I have not been there, but I have heard this.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
It's really a cool place. I do know that a
lot of people have gone the music's great.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, a lot of jazz fans for sure.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah. In a statement, he said, Remy is a child
of the Baked Potato.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Like me.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
She knew exactly what the song needed, and it was
wild to watch her make it happen. The more I
listened to the song, It's clear there was no better
I could have picked. Again. Today's afternoon Delight is Children
of the Baked Potato by Thundercat. That afternoon Delight has
brought you by Fantasy Springs was ord Casino Premiere, Palm
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(36:58):
six six nine eight seven two five seven. You went
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golf for two at Eagle Falls Golf Course, Fantasy Springs
Resort Casino. Adam, are you surprised by the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I'm surprised They've cleaned out their own division already. This
is the best three and zero you can have. You
beat everyone in your division already. Case. Nah, they went
down a week one, then it was the Raiders, then
Denver in dramatic fashion on Sunday. Honestly, Fred, even though
the football gods continue to treat them like the Chargers.
(37:35):
The Chargers are not treating themselves like the Chargers. You
can't control injuries, but the self inflicted wounds they are
doing away with. They're finding ways to actually win late.
There is a toughness about them, maybe established in a
second season now under Jim Harbaugh, they just look different
out there. They're finding ways to win instead of losing
those games that they traditionally have.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
They look confident. That's what it is. They look like
a Jim Harbaugh coach team. Yeah, it really makes a
difference if you think about it. He's been successful everywhere
he's ever been. Now, they spent money to sign him,
and they spent a lot of money to sign him,
and that would be considered very quote unquote uncharger like,
(38:16):
but they did it because they understood, look, Adam, they
need to compete in this marketplace, and they were the
second team in I think they'd done a great job.
Eric Dickerson would argue the fact that little team and
they don't really have the fan base.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Nice little team over there.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, I think that their footprint has grown. I think
they've done a pretty good job, to be very honest
with you, and it's tough to overcome the Rams juggernaut
Kevin demof running that thing with Stan Kronk's money. That's tough.
They know what they're doing, they get it, and they
can spend on whatever they want. Chargers didn't have that
(38:53):
ability really because the Spanos family isn't as liquid in
cash as the Rams and stan Kronkey. So they took
a big swing with herball and you see the results.
And they have a quarterback too.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
That's the real difference here. We're not just talking about
Justin Herbert being a good young quarterback who could project
to be an MVP someday. He's in the conversation. He's
at the front of the line. That throw that he
made to Keenan Allen shuffling to his left and just
a rocket launcher to the end zone that was unbelievable.
He went eight of nine the last two drives of
(39:31):
that game, so then eventually set up the Dicker the
Kicker game winning field goal against the Broncos. Justin Herbert
coming off a miserable playoff game last season against the Texans,
a game they shouldn't have lost. Herbert that hasn't carried
over at all. It looks like he has a newfound confidence.
And you remember Jim Harbaugh said in the offseason, like
(39:52):
he woke up in the middle of the night in
a cold sweat and realized, I have to make Justin
Herbert a Hall of Fame quarterback. That's his MISSI and
he's on his way right now. They still have to
win in the playoffs. They still have to prove it there,
of course, but he had room to grow in the
regular season just to be in the MVP conversation like
he is. Now. This is different. Now they're comparing him
(40:14):
to Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and these other guys.
It's impressive. And if you want to win in LA
you got to have a superstar like that. Fred.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, And the thing about Justin Herbert, what happened in
the playoffs last year was awful and he could have
gone one way one way or the other after that
because he's got all the talent in the world. He
is a top five when he's firing an all cylinders quarterback,
but he's not been able to put it together in
the big moment and last year got at the exclamation point.
(40:44):
So this year was a big year for him. He
needed to step up lead and when need be as
with the pass to Keenan Allen win games. I mean,
how many wins are your quarterbacks worth? That's really how
you evaluate them. How many games are they worth. You're
not gonna win every game, but type games you will
(41:04):
if you've got the guy. That's what he's trying to
establish this year, that he is that guy, that he
will be the guy to win you the game when
it's close and you have an opportunity. I think if
he can do that, then he has gone over the hump.
He's fine, and I think they have a very good
year and a chance to go pretty deep into playoffs
(41:26):
if he continues to play this way.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Well, we mentioned how they're three to zero, first time
since two thousand and two for the Chargers. Now, they
ended up only winning eight games that season. I don't
foresee that happening to this team that was back with
Drew Brees and Ladanian Tomlinson. Fred. Look at the AFC
right now, there are only six AFC teams that have
a winning record currently. The conference is way down. They
(41:52):
could end up with a top two seed easily. They're
on track for that. Get the number one seed, get
a bye, can't lose a playoff game. If you gotta vibe,
that's what cures the Chargers right there, everything's set up
for them. The Ravens look flawed. They lose again last night.
The Bills still have injuries out there. They're winning, but
(42:12):
the Chargers look like the second best team at worst
right now in the AFC and their defense. And what's
crazy is they've had injuries already. That's what I mean.
The football gods are still giving them no favors. But
the Chargers actually aren't wilting to that adversity for once.
You look at what happened before the season even started
(42:33):
with Rashaun Slater going out, and then it was uh
Khalil Mack and now they've lost a running back and
they just continue to win anyways. That to me shows
they're willing to push through whatever adversity is in their way.
And it looks like that is you mentioned Jim Harbass
stamp of approval type of team where there's just a
different level of mental toughness to you, like we've never
(42:55):
seen with the Chargers. Now, it's only three games, but
so far, so good.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Okay, A two hour program for us today. One down,
when we come back, Vinnie bind Signior will join the programmer.
We'll talk more NFL
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