September 23, 2025 • 31 mins
Vinny Bonsignore hops on to recap week 3 of the NFL. With NBA media days on the horizon, Adam Auslund offers a brief preview of the Lakers and Clippers seasons and talks about the remarkable transformation of Zion Williamson. Also, how much will it cost to get you into Dodger Stadium for playoff games? Not as much as you might think?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan and the Saltier
Adam Auslin in for Rodney today an AI seventy LA sports.
You can hear him on the weekends right here on
the radio station. Big Time got a network show. He
and Kevin are doing it.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Oh yeah, can't can't wait till Freddy's filling in for
one of us. It's gonna be amazing late on a
Friday night. Fred, you're ready for an eleven PM show?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Right, you're good.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
You never invite me on.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We've had Rodney on.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We need to have friends had Rodney on. You don't
even invite me on?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We can we have a show booker, We have a producer, now, Fred,
this isn't on us while.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You look in my way?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
All right, well, who's a booker? I guess I'm not
important enough to be invited on your show, Bribri.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We've only been on for like six weeks. Okay, let
us ease into this before we bring in the big guns,
before we call in the big favors. Fred, bail us out.
We need a rating Spike tonight, please call in tell
us about a car chase something.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
All right, I will stay you listen if you give
me the proper notice. I will stay up and listen
to you and come on your.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Show while you're putting down a bottle a one. I'd
enjoy that late night hour with Freddy Rogan.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Let me tell you, look, you're fitting with the rest
of the listeners at that time. Buyer side chat with Freddy. Yeah,
call me, call.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Me by my late night name, Freddy Corvasier.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Past the Freddy Corvassier. I like it, fred your books.
Not this week, though, the fine two weeks from now.
That's what I'm not available in.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
All right, let's bring on Bennye Bond Senior, Vinnie, how
are you today?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I am doing great? How are you guys doing good?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Have they booked you on their national show? Yet?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I have not.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Gotten a call or a text, or even an email
for that matter, So there's been no reaching out.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Check your DMS, Vinny, check your DMS.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Care your pigeons on his way, Vinny.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I have not checked my DMS.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I will.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I will hurry to do that as soon as we
wrap up today.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, we're sending a raven like in Game of Thrones.
Be ready for it?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
All right, Okay, I'll be ready.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'll hold your.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Arm out the window Land speaking of last night Ravens
never more, Is there defense ever going to come around
any the Ravens on that end. I know they lost
their defensive coordinator, but they brought in a lot of talent.
Are they going to be able to coordinate things and
construct things in a way where they can slow teams down?
(02:30):
Because this was a team that a lot of people
had as winning the Super Bowl this season.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, I think, first and foremost, it'll it'll help not
to play the Joggernaut Buffalo Bill the offense and Josh
Allen and the Joggart each Lions offense with Jared Goffer,
good friend Jared Goff, and all the talent that they
have that they're just I think I think part of
this is those are two powerhouse offenses, and I'd be
(02:55):
hard pressed to find any defense that can that can
really swow those guys down to any to any real level.
But yeah, it is the Baltimore Ravens that we're talking about.
Turnovers don't help, you know, and Derrick Henry copping it
up in both of those games, that doesn't help at all,
and they usually get better as the year goes on,
So so I would imagine that they would. But it'll
(03:18):
help not having to play those those types of offenses
between now and whenever they got to face one of
those teams again.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, you know what, don't make excuses. The Lions are
that good. The Lions are that year, Vinnie, this will
be the year. I'm telling you right now. Write it
down an inc. You said this will be the year
for the Lions. You'll see new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator.
Makes no difference. These guys are poised in ready, Vinnie.
And I think they showed that last night.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
You didn't say that when they won fifteen games last
year to Fred No.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well, I was just a little ahead of myself.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Last year, so they But just the fact that we're
talking about the Lions like this in consecutive multiple multiple
years or even consecutive years, but like three straight years
where we're talking about the Lions as one of the
best football teams and in all of football. Boy, it's
what a change that has occurred in Detroit. And I
(04:10):
don't know if either of you guys have made it
out there to a game recently. I've been there a
couple of times now since they really turned to be
become a really good team. It's a great scene in Detroit.
It's a great scene before the games. Uh in downtown Detroit.
It's just night and day from what it used to be.
So you know, I'm not rolling them out at all.
(04:33):
They are. They look like one of the best teams,
if not the best team in the NFC last night.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Hey, Benny, you want to know the place everybody went
to before the Lions played when I was little? Do
you want to know the place in nearest bar what
they do all right? Carl's Chophouse. Carl Chophouse. That's where
everybody went by the old Tiger Stadium and you walked
in and you got to pick out the lobster you
wanted to eat. They put it right out of there
and put it in the put it in the pot.
(05:00):
It was a great place in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Okay, is it still around because I'd like to go
check it out if so.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
No, I'm sure it was burbling around at some point.
But back in the day, that was very good.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Are we talking about Alex Terris days? And yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's what we're talking about. Back then, when Joe Schmidt
with a middle.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Linebacker very exactly exactly, Yeah, learn your history.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You need to know that stuff look I like a
cooked lobster or a cooked establishment of where the lobster
used to be, like the place is no longer there, Vinnie.
Let's talk about the team you cover so closely with
the Raiders. They're looking a little bit cooked right now.
Is the offensive line contributed to the lack of run game?
Because everybody's coming after the rookie right now in Ashton
(05:55):
Jens and I'm looking at some of the numbers. He's
got one hundred and forty four rushing yards and one
hundred and forty five of them are coming after contact.
It kind of speaks to a leaky offensive line in
my opinion, without question.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And it's it's been their fatal flaw thus far. Even
against the New England Patriots, it wasn't very good. And
what was interesting about it, you know, they weren't great. Obviously,
they were the worst running team in the NFL last year,
but toward you know, once they made the coaching change
along the offensive line and an offensive coordinator started getting better,
(06:29):
and it coincided with them inserting Jackson Powers Johnson at center,
Jordan Meredith that left guard, and Dylan par haven't got
settled in right guard. And since Pete took over and
his son's the offensive offensive line coach, Brendan Carroll and
Chip Kelly's the offensive coordinator, they reshuffled the deck. The
names are pretty much the same, but now Jackson powers
(06:51):
Johnson is that right guard, Jordan Meredith moved from left
guard to center, and Dylan Parham moved from a much
more comfortable right guard to left guard, and it's and
it's just slid in the opposite direction since then. They
were building on something last year. It started looking better
when that formation was out on the field and they
completely changed it. I'm not quite sure why, but that
(07:12):
was their call, and I'm wondering if they're if they're
regretting that at this point, and if it doesn't get
much better on Saturday or on Sunday against the Bears
and Jackson Bowers. Johnson will be back after sitting out
the last few games with a concussion, but it doesn't
get any better, I wonder if they're going to start
thinking about maybe going back to that alignment.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You know, you point out the offensive line, great, they
looked terrible. Overall, they looked awful. Vinny their special teams
were disaster. I mean I watched the whole game. The
special teams were bad. Defensively, they were bad. It looked
like they took forty five steps backwards.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, and they were playing in a fog. And you know,
in talking to Pete Carroll after the game and then
and then again on yesterday, one thing that he mentioned,
you know, not trying to make any excuses or anything,
that they played the Charges on Sunday. They had to
make the trip to Washington. Washington last played the previous Thursday,
so they had ten days off. The Raiders were on
(08:07):
a short week, and one of the things that he
decided to do in last week's practice was there was
no physicality. It was all basically above the shoulders practices Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
And in retrospect, I think he regrets that decision because
it felt like it's the edge off of the Raiders
because you're right, in every phase of the game, they
didn't have physicality. They just were playing kind of in
(08:30):
a fog, and it cost them. They gave up you know,
a ninety yard punt return, a sixty nine y kickoff return,
a sixty one pass reception, a sixty yard run. There
are big plays at the defense, at least in the
first two weeks, had not been giving up, and a
lot of it was just bad tackling. And so you
wonder if the plan last week during practice or to
(08:51):
really not practice and do anything really physical in terms
of hitting. It's something that pe Carell regrets. He basically
admitted as much when we've talked to him since, you know,
after that game.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I like how Fred's like, forget the offensive line, they
suck all around everywhere, quarterback, head coach, wide receivers, running back, defense,
you know what else sucks right now? The AFC in
general overall, Vinnie, is this the worst it's looked? There's
only six teams that are above five hundred right now,
which could open up an opportunity for the Raiders to
(09:23):
still turn things around.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I guess yeah, there's no doubt they're still technically perfectly
fine considering you know, a bunch of other teams are
one and two right now. But do you believe that
the Buffalo or excuse me, that the Baltimore Ravens are
really a one in three team, or the Kansas City
Chiefs are really a one in three team? Those you
kind of count on those teams getting getting better. Obviously,
(09:47):
Cincinnati without Joe Burrow that changes everything for them. Are
the Houston Texans gonna be able to improve? They seem
to be sliding a little bit backwards and Cee J.
Stroud is sliding a little bit backwards. But really, what
this opens up the possibility for is the team that's
on AM five to seventy. Yeah, Los Angeles Charger, who
(10:07):
you know, very quietly, maybe you know in terms of
nationally very quietly, just swept the AFC West, you know,
three games in there are three games up on the
rest of the AFC West, their division, which is pretty
cool when you think about it. And they did it
in convincing fashion. They did it on the road, they
did it at home, they did it in another hemisphere,
(10:29):
another country, another continent, for crying out lot going out
of Brazil to beat the Kansas City Chiefs. So it's
looking like the Chargers are truly legit this year.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Benny, I know the Raiders were playing when the Rams
were playing. Did you have a chance to see the
end of the Ram game on highlights or anything?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I did, Yeah, And we were actually huddled right outside
the Raider locker room because their game was wrapping up,
or maybe I'd wrapped up when we watched how that
thing unfolded and somebody had it on their phone and
we were all huddled together watching. It couldn't been a
worse you know, finished for the Rams. First of all,
they have a game, then they lost lost track of
(11:06):
that game, and then they kind of got right back
into it and could could go ahead and kick the
skill goal at the end of the game. But that
thing gets bocked and returned for a touchdown. Just a
really demoralizing loss. And we talked about this last week.
You know that the Eagles have the Rams number for
some fuck, for some reason, and it's been going on
for a few years now. That would have been a
huge statement win, a huge win for playoff implications when
(11:29):
you're talking about home field advantage down the road. It
got all squandered, and really, I know that the Raiders,
the Rams have to be regretting that because it felt
like they were in control of that game at a
certain point.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
They blew a nineteen point lead. Stafford did not look
exactly he was missing open receivers, and the same guy
who blocked the field goal at the end of the
game blocked the field goal earlier in the game that
that was just a collapse.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I gotta, I gotta, And I've been talking to some
people in the NFL about this, and it might have
been one of the craziest special teams weeks of all time.
You had big returns, you had blocked field goals. You know,
you had punt returns, kickoff returns. It's the specialist back
into special teams now. And I give the NFL credit for,
(12:16):
you know, the new kickoff roles that's kind of spurred
it on. But man, it's been a long time since
I've seen that many monumentally big plays across the board
on special teams. And unfortunately for the Rams, they were
on the wrong side of that.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Vinny Well Fred tried to deflect there and take things
away from the Chargers and move on to the Rams.
As you mentioned, the Chargers are three and oh they
cleaned out their own division.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Justin Harbor up at the bolt off.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You want to see my lightning bolt, I got it
for you right here. This team right now looks to
be at the top of the AFC, right there with
the Buffalo Bills. But we'd mentioned it earlier. Things just
look differently with this Chargers team. They're winning games late,
they're overcoming injuries. Is this the Jim Harbaugh effect or
is it more about Justin Herbert taking that lead forward.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I think it's more of the Jim Harbaugh a fact
that I think, you know, for Justin you know, obviously
he's going to check off the playoff box when and
if that gets to it. It looks like it is, and
that's that's the challenge that he's going to face in
the playoffs. We've seen Justin Herbert, you know, be really
good during the regular season. That's what he is right now.
But what I liked about the Chargers team that I saw,
(13:25):
you know, that came through Las Vegas a couple of
weeks ago. They just are a big, physical, tough nose
football team, especially defensively. And when we want to start
talking about, you know, the Buffalo Bills, and you know,
hopefully if it ever gets to that point in a
big game down the road in the playoffs, it'll be
in Los Angeles rather than Buffalo. You don't want to
go there, but wherever that game might be played. Or
(13:49):
the thing that I feel like the Chargers might have
the edge in is I just think their defense is better,
and I think they've been a great defensive coordinator and mentor.
I think they've got great personnel. They don't give up
big plays. They're a good football team in all the
areas that you want to be a good football team,
and including obviously the quarterback, but the defense, to me,
(14:11):
and how that defense is playing, it's a big game
changer for me, and that's going to give them an
opportunity in any game that they play, as long as
they keep that up and obviously stay healthy. But that's
what looks different to me in the Chargers. It's not
just the flamboyant throwing it around Lucy goosey. Oh, that
looks fun, that looks great. It's a hard news, a
hard nose, gritty football team. And that is Jim homerbat
(14:34):
to a t right there.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
All right, Well you're gritty and hard nose too, Vinnie.
We appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I appreciate it, you guys, And yeah, I'll be looking
at that, DM Adam.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'm a slide right in there. Don't worry. It's Kevin
there you go.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
All right, that was gooddy talk Vinny.
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Yeah you do.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
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Speaker 2 (15:38):
Welcome back in Rogan and Rodney. I'm at a Moslin
in for Freddie Rogan here as we get set for
the Dodgers and the Snakes tonight. Just six games left
in the season for your boys in blue the Azoo
coming up. We got some NBA news, including Zion Williamson,
who looks like he's on ozempe and has lost thirty pounds.
(16:02):
I've never seen anything like it. I just saw his
picture media day in New Orleans. It's unbelievable. Freddie Zion
lost weight.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Here's the thing. That guy has been one of the
great disappointments in NBA history.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Right right behind DeAndre Ayden.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
For you, oh, DeAndre Ayton is number one, He's all time,
but Zion Williamson has been an enormous disappointment. And the
way the NBA works, you get paid on potential, not performance,
and Zion Williams that has been paid entirely too much
money for weighing that much and getting injured all the time.
(16:36):
You're saying he's also got a terrible attitude.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
He hasn't carried He was very.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Much like D'Angelo Russell. He was a very entitled kid,
and he basketball wise and he comes in and he
has when he can play, he has been great. But
you know, he hasn't been available very much.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I'm almost worried he's lost too much weight, Like he
may be available more, but will he be as effective
when he's trying to bulldoze guys in the paint like
he's baby shack out there. The picture is revealing. It
is crazy to see I did not recognize him. He
looks so much different in the face. You know, that's
where you see it when somebody's cheekbones are all of
(17:18):
a sudden popping out there. Fred they look very different.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, I'm looking at the picture, and what's funny is
that's not even him. That's another guy wearing his jeersey.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
See what did I say, Adam, I say, it looks
like it was like some photoshop or something.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
That doesn't even look like you said zion lost a zion,
Not even close.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Personally, he's locked a zion amount of weight. It looks
like face Off or Travolta. Yeah, change his faces with
Nick Cage.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Almost that terrible movie Thinner where the guy, the overweight
guy lost all the weight and got all sucked up
within like a week or something.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
That's what he looks on a King movie. I hope
he's okay. I hope he can still perform at a
high level. But Freddie, I know, we got other things
to talk about here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
No, we'll just talk about this. Do you think do
you think he's on ozembic? Yes or no? That's my
only question.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I don't think I know.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Okay, he is when he's doing commercials coming up soon
as the NBA season gets underway, it will be confirmed.
He said it was boxing workouts and football workouts that
got him here. And this is the best he has
felt since Duke, when he.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Was the best he has felt since he's ten years old.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Since Duke, he's shredded. Like this is the insanity workout,
ty Bow. Whatever he's doing, it's working.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
But that's all right, that's not true. Here's the thing.
Here's the thing. There's no way that guy looks like
this in three four months. I don't care how finely
conditioned an athlete you are. I mean he he was
so large that if he took a step his leg
could snap in half, and all of a sudden he
looks like this.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well, when he took a step, his foot went out
of his shoe before literally in basketball game. Right. Yeah,
I don't know. Living in New Orleans, I don't know
if he's going to be able to keep the weight off.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Oh yeah, that's what goes along. Wait New Orleans, that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's that's been part of the problem. Everybody's like, ship
him somewhere else, please.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Who looks better right now? Zion Williamson, who we don't
even think is Zion Williamson. I think it's like the
guy that went into the Angel picture wearing the Otani jersey.
It wasn't Otani. I think this is somebody else and
not Zion. But if it is Zion, who looks better
Zion Williamson or Luka nanchic.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Ooh, it's more noticeable with Zion. Honestly, it may be
a lighting thing, but we've got to see Luca actually
on the court play this summer, obviously for Slovenia, and
he does look thinner, but not like this. Zion had
more weight to lose than Luca. To be fair, Luca
might have lost fifteen pounds. Zion looks like he lost
(19:50):
thirty plus pounds in this picture.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
How much do you think Luca lost fifteen?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Hey, look Luca.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
It was exaggerated to a degree. I don't think he
got so big like he couldn't dunk anymore. He wasn't
Oliver Miller out there or anything like that, or tractor
trailer like.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
He wasn't that big. He was just bigger.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Zion has been huge for a long time.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I think the problem with Zion is he looked bloated.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
He's got carb face.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
When you eat a lot of sugar the night before
and you wake up carb face.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Anyway, so we'll see when he gets on the court.
Media Day next week, thoughts find both teams going in.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Uh well, I'm sure the Clippers will get some interesting
questions to their way. I guess Lawrence Frank is going
to be speaking beforehand first before anybody else does at
media Day. I think they both had successful off seasons. Honestly,
I think we mentioned this before. The Clippers did better.
They brought in more proven guys. The Lakers. We'll see
(20:59):
what happens with the Andre and we'll see how much
Marcus Smart has left.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Jake Laavia is a young player.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But the Clippers brought in They brought back CP three,
who played eighty two games last season. I know he's forty,
but he's been reliable recently. And then Brook Lopez, John Collins,
Bradley Beal. They won the sweep stakes there. The Clippers
are in a really good spot when you think of
it from this perspective, Fred they only got thirty seven
games from Kawhi Leonard last season and they still won fifty.
(21:27):
What happens if he plays fifty games this season? Can
they win fifty five? Can they get close to sixty?
That's the argument Clippers fans are making, Well.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You make this argument, given who they picked up this offseason.
If it all goes well, if he only plays thirty
seven games, why couldn't they win fifty five with that group?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
They could make up for it.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They lost Norman Powell, but you replace him with Bradley Beal.
That might be an upgrade. Actually, if Bradley Beal is right,
he's in a better situation than Phoenix obviously. So yeah,
I don't think they could have optimized things any better
than they did this offseason.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I'll put it like that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Okay, let's talk about if you want to go to
the playoffs at Dodger Stadium, because I tease, that's what
we got to mention it. If you want to go
to the playoffs, what do you think is going to
cost you wild card tickets? Bill Shakin wrote about this,
So wild card tickets? What do they start at in theory?
And what's the high side? And by the way, this
(22:21):
is not on the secondary market. Let's establish that right now.
What do you think wild card.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
For the Dodgers? Yeah, to see the world champs try
to go back to back and be the first team
to do it since the Yankees in ninety nine to
two thousand. That's right, that's got to be a hot ticket.
So you asking me for what's the cheapest ticket you
could get in at.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
According to Bill Shakin, yes, not marked up, not secondary market,
and not dugout club either, to fitty ninety one dollars.
All right, I can get in for ninety one ninety one.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
That's a steal. It's a bargain, Fred. I'm as we
look at.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
These prices, isn't it safe to assume that they're going
to be you know, the third deck?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Oh yeah, if you're doing the cheapest, you're talking about
way way up top.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But you're in. But you're in, okay, because top price
according to this so this would be face values one
hundred and seventy one dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Really what those tickets on the gray market are going
to go for?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
A grand?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I gotta be honest with you. So we have sat
in the loge for the playoffs. Yeah, and we got
them at face value, but we pay you know, we
got them face value. So you go NLDS. Cheapest ticket
NLDS is one hundred and eighteen bucks. But uh, not
(23:47):
counting dugout Club or like the boxes, right, So we're
not talking about boxes or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
I think about what lows and higher or no field
level at all? Okay, what the cutoff is here?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
No, no, I got it. So field level NLDS. I
know what we've paid in the past and World Series.
I buy this. Field level is two thirty five max. Okay,
I buy that because that's kind of what they are
face value. Yeah, Nationally Championship Series, all right, so that
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was Division Series, Nationally Championship Series field level max three fourteen,
I buy that too.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
That's honestly reasonable.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
It really I was stunned when I looked at it.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You're seeing not only are you seeing a team that
could go back to back, you're seeing the modern day
Babe Ruth, who's going to be pitching and not just
hitting this time in the playoffs with the Dodgers. That's
something you can tell your kids about.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, these prices make sense to me. But here's the problem,
and there is a problem. It's really tough to get
these at face value.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You mean, you got to refresh the screen a lot
very quickly.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You know what, I didn't know. If you have a
chance to do it, you just better get lucky when
you log on.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's like getting the toy bobblehead, the gold one.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah right, I got the golden ticket one.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Seventy one for the wild card lower level. So what
are those going to be four hundred on the secondary
market at least? Okay, two thirty five for the Division Series?
What are those gonna be five fifty six?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, I'd say so.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Okay, nationally Championship Series at three fourteen, those would be
one thousand bucks a ticket secondary market.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I agree, But if you were there when the Dodgers
got back to the World Series and went back to back,
it's all worth it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Fred. Plus, we're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Tickets to give away here on a M five to
seventy LA Sports at some point. Not right, no, not
stop calling in.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
No, no, we're not. What do you mean if there
are any tickets to give away, I'm taking them.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
There's no tickets.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Wow, are you insane?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
All right, here's Fred's address, so you guys could get
those tickets.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
This he's hoarding them.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
By the way, I did pull up a secondary ticket
market because I guess you can already sell tickets even
though they don't have an opponent yet. The cheapest I'm
seeing is one hundred and fifteen for reserve, which, again,
all things considered, an adam you laid it out, is.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Not terrible, it's not right.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Hundred and fifteen dollars for a reserve level.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Look at what you're getting here. You might see Kershaw's
final game last year.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
So you know, life is made of moments, and moments
create memories, and during big games, the whole family goes.
I mean the kids go over, Shell goes. We were
there because I was really fortunate because I've been had
a lot of stuff over the years, but everybody was
there when Freddie Freeman hit that home run last year.
That is a moment that they will never forget, any
(26:39):
of them. They will tell their kids about. My kids
will tell their kids, and their kids will tell their kids.
That is just you cannot replace that moment. It's a
memory you will always have. So that's why, you know,
all we try to do in life really with access.
Money buys us access, that's what it does, and that's
what we all want access. Two things to get in
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to see cool things, to be where it's happening. So
when you hit the playoffs, if you can afford it,
you should go because those are the memories you.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Will carry with you the ultimate experience. Now I will
take the other side of this. I went to a
King's Dallas Mavericks game in two thousand and two, Sacramento's
on their way to win that series and then eventually
getting screwed over by the Lakers in the Western Commerce Finals.
I'm at our co Arena. It's game two. They're up
one game to none against the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
They lose.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I paid like one thousand dollars for those tickets as
a young man. Maybe that was my graduation present. I
was furious. I wish I hadn't.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Even been there.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
See, here's the problem.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
But I'm the salty A No, you are damn salty.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Here's the problem. And there are people in my house
like this. Let's say you spent one thousand bucks a ticket, Okay,
all right, and you go and your team gets its
ass kicked.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
We did.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Are so angry, angry they lost, angry you spent the
money that you had to sit through that. Ye right,
that's the downside of spending the money you spend. You
talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I painted my face for this.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I look like you talked to anybody. You spent a
lot of money on a ticket and this is it,
and you go to that game, regular season Dodger game.
We have gone to games over the years. They could
be like twelve to one. You don't know how pissed
off everybody is in my group. Just pass.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, great experience, Fred, A bad one of that?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, thanks Dad, Thanks. You know, it's a luck of
the draw. So that's the downside, a risk.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
It's a risk.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
It is a risk.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But that's why we watch. That's why we do this.
It's sports. Maybe all right, we are back to wrap
things up.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
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Speaker 1 (29:10):
Adam, thanks for sitting in for Rodney today.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Hey Fred, can we do some more shameless promotion before
we get out of here? Since you were so kind
to talk about Kevin and I's show F and A
on FSR on Fox Sports Radio on Friday nights, I
got one more thing to tell you. Tell me on Saturday,
I will be at Marongo Casino at five doing a
Clippers talk live. Oh what a time to talk about
(29:33):
the Clippers. It's just perfect. I'll be on stage somewhere
in Maroango Casino at five this Saturday. I think that's
September twenty seventh, talking Clippers with the people.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
That is really cool. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, why.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Because it's the work we have chosen and I have
been asked to go there, and I think it's gonna
be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Fred.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yes, Now what time you're gonna leave to get out there?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Uh? Well at one pm?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
What time do I need to leave, Red, I don't know.
It's an hour and a half drive, I think. Well okay,
so here's a deal on a Saturday. All right, here's
the deal.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
If you leave, Yeah, how long do you want it
to take?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
What do you mean how long?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Like?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Beam me up, Scotty. I'd like it to take that long.
But it's going to be driving in a car.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
So no, if you want it to be an hour
and a half, you should not leave past two o'clock.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Uh huh, I'll do one nine it is.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, you'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
No, that's that's good.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And I'll be all set up and ready to go
and talking about scandals in the NBA, and hopefully they'll
let me talk about the Clippers actual off season some
instead of everything else going on.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
As a matter of fact, that's good. Where you're going
to talk about what you should leave now that I'm
thinking about it. You should leave at like eleven am.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Eleven am.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That will take you an hour and a half. I
know the exact time now, I know when to leave,
when not to leave.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
The show starts at five.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
What do you mean? Get out there? Go to the pool.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Oh, put out the vibes.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Listen. See the guy, the blonde guy in the blue coat.
It's and all the commercials now that walks up and
snaps his fingers and they win.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Is that one of the face morphers?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I think?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
So go see that guy.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
The guy gonna turn into a girl by the time
I leave.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Who knows what you'll look like?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
The blonde guy with the blue jacket and yeah, very descriptive, fred,
I'm sure I'll find him.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Go talk to the woman that walks out by the pool.
I would like to And then throws down her sash
and misses the chair and she throws it on the
ground and never reshot that. Go talk to her. She's
out there too.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Five o'clock this Saturday, Clippers Talk Live at Morocgo Casino.
Be there, please help me, God.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Ronnie, thank you, Kevin, appreciate it. Adam again, thanks for
hanging out.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Love you, Freddy,
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan and the Saltier
Adam Auslin in for Rodney today an AI seventy LA sports.
You can hear him on the weekends right here on
the radio station. Big Time got a network show. He
and Kevin are doing it.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Oh yeah, can't can't wait till Freddy's filling in for
one of us. It's gonna be amazing late on a
Friday night. Fred, you're ready for an eleven PM show?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Right, you're good.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
You never invite me on.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We've had Rodney on.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We need to have friends had Rodney on. You don't
even invite me on?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We can we have a show booker, We have a producer, now, Fred,
this isn't on us while.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You look in my way?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
All right, well, who's a booker? I guess I'm not
important enough to be invited on your show, Bribri.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We've only been on for like six weeks. Okay, let
us ease into this before we bring in the big guns,
before we call in the big favors. Fred, bail us out.
We need a rating Spike tonight, please call in tell
us about a car chase something.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
All right, I will stay you listen if you give
me the proper notice. I will stay up and listen
to you and come on your.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Show while you're putting down a bottle a one. I'd
enjoy that late night hour with Freddy Rogan.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Let me tell you, look, you're fitting with the rest
of the listeners at that time. Buyer side chat with Freddy. Yeah,
call me, call.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Me by my late night name, Freddy Corvasier.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Past the Freddy Corvassier. I like it, fred your books.
Not this week, though, the fine two weeks from now.
That's what I'm not available in.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
All right, let's bring on Bennye Bond Senior, Vinnie, how
are you today?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I am doing great? How are you guys doing good?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Have they booked you on their national show? Yet?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I have not.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Gotten a call or a text, or even an email
for that matter, So there's been no reaching out.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Check your DMS, Vinny, check your DMS.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Care your pigeons on his way, Vinny.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I have not checked my DMS.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I will.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I will hurry to do that as soon as we
wrap up today.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, we're sending a raven like in Game of Thrones.
Be ready for it?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
All right, Okay, I'll be ready.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'll hold your.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Arm out the window Land speaking of last night Ravens
never more, Is there defense ever going to come around
any the Ravens on that end. I know they lost
their defensive coordinator, but they brought in a lot of talent.
Are they going to be able to coordinate things and
construct things in a way where they can slow teams down?
(02:30):
Because this was a team that a lot of people
had as winning the Super Bowl this season.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, I think, first and foremost, it'll it'll help not
to play the Joggernaut Buffalo Bill the offense and Josh
Allen and the Joggart each Lions offense with Jared Goffer,
good friend Jared Goff, and all the talent that they
have that they're just I think I think part of
this is those are two powerhouse offenses, and I'd be
(02:55):
hard pressed to find any defense that can that can
really swow those guys down to any to any real level.
But yeah, it is the Baltimore Ravens that we're talking about.
Turnovers don't help, you know, and Derrick Henry copping it
up in both of those games, that doesn't help at all,
and they usually get better as the year goes on,
So so I would imagine that they would. But it'll
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help not having to play those those types of offenses
between now and whenever they got to face one of
those teams again.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, you know what, don't make excuses. The Lions are
that good. The Lions are that year, Vinnie, this will
be the year. I'm telling you right now. Write it
down an inc. You said this will be the year
for the Lions. You'll see new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator.
Makes no difference. These guys are poised in ready, Vinnie.
And I think they showed that last night.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
You didn't say that when they won fifteen games last
year to Fred No.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well, I was just a little ahead of myself.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Last year, so they But just the fact that we're
talking about the Lions like this in consecutive multiple multiple
years or even consecutive years, but like three straight years
where we're talking about the Lions as one of the
best football teams and in all of football. Boy, it's
what a change that has occurred in Detroit. And I
(04:10):
don't know if either of you guys have made it
out there to a game recently. I've been there a
couple of times now since they really turned to be
become a really good team. It's a great scene in Detroit.
It's a great scene before the games. Uh in downtown Detroit.
It's just night and day from what it used to be.
So you know, I'm not rolling them out at all.
(04:33):
They are. They look like one of the best teams,
if not the best team in the NFC last night.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Hey, Benny, you want to know the place everybody went
to before the Lions played when I was little? Do
you want to know the place in nearest bar what
they do all right? Carl's Chophouse. Carl Chophouse. That's where
everybody went by the old Tiger Stadium and you walked
in and you got to pick out the lobster you
wanted to eat. They put it right out of there
and put it in the put it in the pot.
(05:00):
It was a great place in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Okay, is it still around because I'd like to go
check it out if so.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
No, I'm sure it was burbling around at some point.
But back in the day, that was very good.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Are we talking about Alex Terris days? And yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's what we're talking about. Back then, when Joe Schmidt
with a middle.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Linebacker very exactly exactly, Yeah, learn your history.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You need to know that stuff look I like a
cooked lobster or a cooked establishment of where the lobster
used to be, like the place is no longer there, Vinnie.
Let's talk about the team you cover so closely with
the Raiders. They're looking a little bit cooked right now.
Is the offensive line contributed to the lack of run game?
Because everybody's coming after the rookie right now in Ashton
(05:55):
Jens and I'm looking at some of the numbers. He's
got one hundred and forty four rushing yards and one
hundred and forty five of them are coming after contact.
It kind of speaks to a leaky offensive line in
my opinion, without question.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And it's it's been their fatal flaw thus far. Even
against the New England Patriots, it wasn't very good. And
what was interesting about it, you know, they weren't great. Obviously,
they were the worst running team in the NFL last year,
but toward you know, once they made the coaching change
along the offensive line and an offensive coordinator started getting better,
(06:29):
and it coincided with them inserting Jackson Powers Johnson at center,
Jordan Meredith that left guard, and Dylan par haven't got
settled in right guard. And since Pete took over and
his son's the offensive offensive line coach, Brendan Carroll and
Chip Kelly's the offensive coordinator, they reshuffled the deck. The
names are pretty much the same, but now Jackson powers
(06:51):
Johnson is that right guard, Jordan Meredith moved from left
guard to center, and Dylan Parham moved from a much
more comfortable right guard to left guard, and it's and
it's just slid in the opposite direction since then. They
were building on something last year. It started looking better
when that formation was out on the field and they
completely changed it. I'm not quite sure why, but that
(07:12):
was their call, and I'm wondering if they're if they're
regretting that at this point, and if it doesn't get
much better on Saturday or on Sunday against the Bears
and Jackson Bowers. Johnson will be back after sitting out
the last few games with a concussion, but it doesn't
get any better, I wonder if they're going to start
thinking about maybe going back to that alignment.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You know, you point out the offensive line, great, they
looked terrible. Overall, they looked awful. Vinny their special teams
were disaster. I mean I watched the whole game. The
special teams were bad. Defensively, they were bad. It looked
like they took forty five steps backwards.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, and they were playing in a fog. And you know,
in talking to Pete Carroll after the game and then
and then again on yesterday, one thing that he mentioned,
you know, not trying to make any excuses or anything,
that they played the Charges on Sunday. They had to
make the trip to Washington. Washington last played the previous Thursday,
so they had ten days off. The Raiders were on
(08:07):
a short week, and one of the things that he
decided to do in last week's practice was there was
no physicality. It was all basically above the shoulders practices Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
And in retrospect, I think he regrets that decision because
it felt like it's the edge off of the Raiders
because you're right, in every phase of the game, they
didn't have physicality. They just were playing kind of in
(08:30):
a fog, and it cost them. They gave up you know,
a ninety yard punt return, a sixty nine y kickoff return,
a sixty one pass reception, a sixty yard run. There
are big plays at the defense, at least in the
first two weeks, had not been giving up, and a
lot of it was just bad tackling. And so you
wonder if the plan last week during practice or to
(08:51):
really not practice and do anything really physical in terms
of hitting. It's something that pe Carell regrets. He basically
admitted as much when we've talked to him since, you know,
after that game.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I like how Fred's like, forget the offensive line, they
suck all around everywhere, quarterback, head coach, wide receivers, running back, defense,
you know what else sucks right now? The AFC in
general overall, Vinnie, is this the worst it's looked? There's
only six teams that are above five hundred right now,
which could open up an opportunity for the Raiders to
(09:23):
still turn things around.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I guess yeah, there's no doubt they're still technically perfectly
fine considering you know, a bunch of other teams are
one and two right now. But do you believe that
the Buffalo or excuse me, that the Baltimore Ravens are
really a one in three team, or the Kansas City
Chiefs are really a one in three team? Those you
kind of count on those teams getting getting better. Obviously,
(09:47):
Cincinnati without Joe Burrow that changes everything for them. Are
the Houston Texans gonna be able to improve? They seem
to be sliding a little bit backwards and Cee J.
Stroud is sliding a little bit backwards. But really, what
this opens up the possibility for is the team that's
on AM five to seventy. Yeah, Los Angeles Charger, who
(10:07):
you know, very quietly, maybe you know in terms of
nationally very quietly, just swept the AFC West, you know,
three games in there are three games up on the
rest of the AFC West, their division, which is pretty
cool when you think about it. And they did it
in convincing fashion. They did it on the road, they
did it at home, they did it in another hemisphere,
(10:29):
another country, another continent, for crying out lot going out
of Brazil to beat the Kansas City Chiefs. So it's
looking like the Chargers are truly legit this year.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Benny, I know the Raiders were playing when the Rams
were playing. Did you have a chance to see the
end of the Ram game on highlights or anything?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I did, Yeah, And we were actually huddled right outside
the Raider locker room because their game was wrapping up,
or maybe I'd wrapped up when we watched how that
thing unfolded and somebody had it on their phone and
we were all huddled together watching. It couldn't been a
worse you know, finished for the Rams. First of all,
they have a game, then they lost lost track of
(11:06):
that game, and then they kind of got right back
into it and could could go ahead and kick the
skill goal at the end of the game. But that
thing gets bocked and returned for a touchdown. Just a
really demoralizing loss. And we talked about this last week.
You know that the Eagles have the Rams number for
some fuck, for some reason, and it's been going on
for a few years now. That would have been a
huge statement win, a huge win for playoff implications when
(11:29):
you're talking about home field advantage down the road. It
got all squandered, and really, I know that the Raiders,
the Rams have to be regretting that because it felt
like they were in control of that game at a
certain point.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
They blew a nineteen point lead. Stafford did not look
exactly he was missing open receivers, and the same guy
who blocked the field goal at the end of the
game blocked the field goal earlier in the game that
that was just a collapse.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I gotta, I gotta, And I've been talking to some
people in the NFL about this, and it might have
been one of the craziest special teams weeks of all time.
You had big returns, you had blocked field goals. You know,
you had punt returns, kickoff returns. It's the specialist back
into special teams now. And I give the NFL credit for,
(12:16):
you know, the new kickoff roles that's kind of spurred
it on. But man, it's been a long time since
I've seen that many monumentally big plays across the board
on special teams. And unfortunately for the Rams, they were
on the wrong side of that.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Vinny Well Fred tried to deflect there and take things
away from the Chargers and move on to the Rams.
As you mentioned, the Chargers are three and oh they
cleaned out their own division.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Justin Harbor up at the bolt off.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You want to see my lightning bolt, I got it
for you right here. This team right now looks to
be at the top of the AFC, right there with
the Buffalo Bills. But we'd mentioned it earlier. Things just
look differently with this Chargers team. They're winning games late,
they're overcoming injuries. Is this the Jim Harbaugh effect or
is it more about Justin Herbert taking that lead forward.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I think it's more of the Jim Harbaugh a fact
that I think, you know, for Justin you know, obviously
he's going to check off the playoff box when and
if that gets to it. It looks like it is, and
that's that's the challenge that he's going to face in
the playoffs. We've seen Justin Herbert, you know, be really
good during the regular season. That's what he is right now.
But what I liked about the Chargers team that I saw,
(13:25):
you know, that came through Las Vegas a couple of
weeks ago. They just are a big, physical, tough nose
football team, especially defensively. And when we want to start
talking about, you know, the Buffalo Bills, and you know,
hopefully if it ever gets to that point in a
big game down the road in the playoffs, it'll be
in Los Angeles rather than Buffalo. You don't want to
go there, but wherever that game might be played. Or
(13:49):
the thing that I feel like the Chargers might have
the edge in is I just think their defense is better,
and I think they've been a great defensive coordinator and mentor.
I think they've got great personnel. They don't give up
big plays. They're a good football team in all the
areas that you want to be a good football team,
and including obviously the quarterback, but the defense, to me,
(14:11):
and how that defense is playing, it's a big game
changer for me, and that's going to give them an
opportunity in any game that they play, as long as
they keep that up and obviously stay healthy. But that's
what looks different to me in the Chargers. It's not
just the flamboyant throwing it around Lucy goosey. Oh, that
looks fun, that looks great. It's a hard news, a
hard nose, gritty football team. And that is Jim homerbat
(14:34):
to a t right there.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
All right, Well you're gritty and hard nose too, Vinnie.
We appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I appreciate it, you guys, And yeah, I'll be looking
at that, DM Adam.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'm a slide right in there. Don't worry. It's Kevin
there you go.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
All right, that was gooddy talk Vinny.
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Yeah you do.
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Welcome back in Rogan and Rodney. I'm at a Moslin
in for Freddie Rogan here as we get set for
the Dodgers and the Snakes tonight. Just six games left
in the season for your boys in blue the Azoo
coming up. We got some NBA news, including Zion Williamson,
who looks like he's on ozempe and has lost thirty pounds.
(16:02):
I've never seen anything like it. I just saw his
picture media day in New Orleans. It's unbelievable. Freddie Zion
lost weight.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Here's the thing. That guy has been one of the
great disappointments in NBA history.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Right right behind DeAndre Ayden.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
For you, oh, DeAndre Ayton is number one, He's all time,
but Zion Williamson has been an enormous disappointment. And the
way the NBA works, you get paid on potential, not performance,
and Zion Williams that has been paid entirely too much
money for weighing that much and getting injured all the time.
(16:36):
You're saying he's also got a terrible attitude.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
He hasn't carried He was very.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Much like D'Angelo Russell. He was a very entitled kid,
and he basketball wise and he comes in and he
has when he can play, he has been great. But
you know, he hasn't been available very much.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I'm almost worried he's lost too much weight, Like he
may be available more, but will he be as effective
when he's trying to bulldoze guys in the paint like
he's baby shack out there. The picture is revealing. It
is crazy to see I did not recognize him. He
looks so much different in the face. You know, that's
where you see it when somebody's cheekbones are all of
(17:18):
a sudden popping out there. Fred they look very different.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, I'm looking at the picture, and what's funny is
that's not even him. That's another guy wearing his jeersey.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
See what did I say, Adam, I say, it looks
like it was like some photoshop or something.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
That doesn't even look like you said zion lost a zion,
Not even close.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Personally, he's locked a zion amount of weight. It looks
like face Off or Travolta. Yeah, change his faces with
Nick Cage.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Almost that terrible movie Thinner where the guy, the overweight
guy lost all the weight and got all sucked up
within like a week or something.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
That's what he looks on a King movie. I hope
he's okay. I hope he can still perform at a
high level. But Freddie, I know, we got other things
to talk about here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
No, we'll just talk about this. Do you think do
you think he's on ozembic? Yes or no? That's my
only question.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I don't think I know.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Okay, he is when he's doing commercials coming up soon
as the NBA season gets underway, it will be confirmed.
He said it was boxing workouts and football workouts that
got him here. And this is the best he has
felt since Duke, when he.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Was the best he has felt since he's ten years old.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Since Duke, he's shredded. Like this is the insanity workout,
ty Bow. Whatever he's doing, it's working.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
But that's all right, that's not true. Here's the thing.
Here's the thing. There's no way that guy looks like
this in three four months. I don't care how finely
conditioned an athlete you are. I mean he he was
so large that if he took a step his leg
could snap in half, and all of a sudden he
looks like this.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well, when he took a step, his foot went out
of his shoe before literally in basketball game. Right. Yeah,
I don't know. Living in New Orleans, I don't know
if he's going to be able to keep the weight off.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Oh yeah, that's what goes along. Wait New Orleans, that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's that's been part of the problem. Everybody's like, ship
him somewhere else, please.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Who looks better right now? Zion Williamson, who we don't
even think is Zion Williamson. I think it's like the
guy that went into the Angel picture wearing the Otani jersey.
It wasn't Otani. I think this is somebody else and
not Zion. But if it is Zion, who looks better
Zion Williamson or Luka nanchic.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Ooh, it's more noticeable with Zion. Honestly, it may be
a lighting thing, but we've got to see Luca actually
on the court play this summer, obviously for Slovenia, and
he does look thinner, but not like this. Zion had
more weight to lose than Luca. To be fair, Luca
might have lost fifteen pounds. Zion looks like he lost
(19:50):
thirty plus pounds in this picture.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
How much do you think Luca lost fifteen?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Hey, look Luca.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
It was exaggerated to a degree. I don't think he
got so big like he couldn't dunk anymore. He wasn't
Oliver Miller out there or anything like that, or tractor
trailer like.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
He wasn't that big. He was just bigger.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Zion has been huge for a long time.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I think the problem with Zion is he looked bloated.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
He's got carb face.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
When you eat a lot of sugar the night before
and you wake up carb face.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Anyway, so we'll see when he gets on the court.
Media Day next week, thoughts find both teams going in.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Uh well, I'm sure the Clippers will get some interesting
questions to their way. I guess Lawrence Frank is going
to be speaking beforehand first before anybody else does at
media Day. I think they both had successful off seasons. Honestly,
I think we mentioned this before. The Clippers did better.
They brought in more proven guys. The Lakers. We'll see
(20:59):
what happens with the Andre and we'll see how much
Marcus Smart has left.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Jake Laavia is a young player.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But the Clippers brought in They brought back CP three,
who played eighty two games last season. I know he's forty,
but he's been reliable recently. And then Brook Lopez, John Collins,
Bradley Beal. They won the sweep stakes there. The Clippers
are in a really good spot when you think of
it from this perspective, Fred they only got thirty seven
games from Kawhi Leonard last season and they still won fifty.
(21:27):
What happens if he plays fifty games this season? Can
they win fifty five? Can they get close to sixty?
That's the argument Clippers fans are making, Well.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You make this argument, given who they picked up this offseason.
If it all goes well, if he only plays thirty
seven games, why couldn't they win fifty five with that group?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
They could make up for it.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They lost Norman Powell, but you replace him with Bradley Beal.
That might be an upgrade. Actually, if Bradley Beal is right,
he's in a better situation than Phoenix obviously. So yeah,
I don't think they could have optimized things any better
than they did this offseason.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I'll put it like that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Okay, let's talk about if you want to go to
the playoffs at Dodger Stadium, because I tease, that's what
we got to mention it. If you want to go
to the playoffs, what do you think is going to
cost you wild card tickets? Bill Shakin wrote about this,
So wild card tickets? What do they start at in theory?
And what's the high side? And by the way, this
(22:21):
is not on the secondary market. Let's establish that right now.
What do you think wild card.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
For the Dodgers? Yeah, to see the world champs try
to go back to back and be the first team
to do it since the Yankees in ninety nine to
two thousand. That's right, that's got to be a hot ticket.
So you asking me for what's the cheapest ticket you
could get in at.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
According to Bill Shakin, yes, not marked up, not secondary market,
and not dugout club either, to fitty ninety one dollars.
All right, I can get in for ninety one ninety one.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
That's a steal. It's a bargain, Fred. I'm as we
look at.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
These prices, isn't it safe to assume that they're going
to be you know, the third deck?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Oh yeah, if you're doing the cheapest, you're talking about
way way up top.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But you're in. But you're in, okay, because top price
according to this so this would be face values one
hundred and seventy one dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Really what those tickets on the gray market are going
to go for?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
A grand?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I gotta be honest with you. So we have sat
in the loge for the playoffs. Yeah, and we got
them at face value, but we pay you know, we
got them face value. So you go NLDS. Cheapest ticket
NLDS is one hundred and eighteen bucks. But uh, not
(23:47):
counting dugout Club or like the boxes, right, So we're
not talking about boxes or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
I think about what lows and higher or no field
level at all? Okay, what the cutoff is here?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
No, no, I got it. So field level NLDS. I
know what we've paid in the past and World Series.
I buy this. Field level is two thirty five max. Okay,
I buy that because that's kind of what they are
face value. Yeah, Nationally Championship Series, all right, so that
(24:20):
was Division Series, Nationally Championship Series field level max three fourteen,
I buy that too.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
That's honestly reasonable.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
It really I was stunned when I looked at it.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You're seeing not only are you seeing a team that
could go back to back, you're seeing the modern day
Babe Ruth, who's going to be pitching and not just
hitting this time in the playoffs with the Dodgers. That's
something you can tell your kids about.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, these prices make sense to me. But here's the problem,
and there is a problem. It's really tough to get
these at face value.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You mean, you got to refresh the screen a lot
very quickly.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You know what, I didn't know. If you have a
chance to do it, you just better get lucky when
you log on.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's like getting the toy bobblehead, the gold one.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah right, I got the golden ticket one.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Seventy one for the wild card lower level. So what
are those going to be four hundred on the secondary
market at least? Okay, two thirty five for the Division Series?
What are those gonna be five fifty six?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, I'd say so.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Okay, nationally Championship Series at three fourteen, those would be
one thousand bucks a ticket secondary market.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I agree, But if you were there when the Dodgers
got back to the World Series and went back to back,
it's all worth it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Fred. Plus, we're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Tickets to give away here on a M five to
seventy LA Sports at some point. Not right, no, not
stop calling in.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
No, no, we're not. What do you mean if there
are any tickets to give away, I'm taking them.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
There's no tickets.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Wow, are you insane?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
All right, here's Fred's address, so you guys could get
those tickets.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
This he's hoarding them.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
By the way, I did pull up a secondary ticket
market because I guess you can already sell tickets even
though they don't have an opponent yet. The cheapest I'm
seeing is one hundred and fifteen for reserve, which, again,
all things considered, an adam you laid it out, is.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Not terrible, it's not right.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Hundred and fifteen dollars for a reserve level.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Look at what you're getting here. You might see Kershaw's
final game last year.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
So you know, life is made of moments, and moments
create memories, and during big games, the whole family goes.
I mean the kids go over, Shell goes. We were
there because I was really fortunate because I've been had
a lot of stuff over the years, but everybody was
there when Freddie Freeman hit that home run last year.
That is a moment that they will never forget, any
(26:39):
of them. They will tell their kids about. My kids
will tell their kids, and their kids will tell their kids.
That is just you cannot replace that moment. It's a
memory you will always have. So that's why, you know,
all we try to do in life really with access.
Money buys us access, that's what it does, and that's
what we all want access. Two things to get in
(27:02):
to see cool things, to be where it's happening. So
when you hit the playoffs, if you can afford it,
you should go because those are the memories you.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Will carry with you the ultimate experience. Now I will
take the other side of this. I went to a
King's Dallas Mavericks game in two thousand and two, Sacramento's
on their way to win that series and then eventually
getting screwed over by the Lakers in the Western Commerce Finals.
I'm at our co Arena. It's game two. They're up
one game to none against the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
They lose.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I paid like one thousand dollars for those tickets as
a young man. Maybe that was my graduation present. I
was furious. I wish I hadn't.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Even been there.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
See, here's the problem.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
But I'm the salty A No, you are damn salty.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Here's the problem. And there are people in my house
like this. Let's say you spent one thousand bucks a ticket, Okay,
all right, and you go and your team gets its
ass kicked.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
We did.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Are so angry, angry they lost, angry you spent the
money that you had to sit through that. Ye right,
that's the downside of spending the money you spend. You
talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I painted my face for this.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I look like you talked to anybody. You spent a
lot of money on a ticket and this is it,
and you go to that game, regular season Dodger game.
We have gone to games over the years. They could
be like twelve to one. You don't know how pissed
off everybody is in my group. Just pass.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, great experience, Fred, A bad one of that?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, thanks Dad, Thanks. You know, it's a luck of
the draw. So that's the downside, a risk.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
It's a risk.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
It is a risk.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But that's why we watch. That's why we do this.
It's sports. Maybe all right, we are back to wrap
things up.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
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Speaker 1 (29:10):
Adam, thanks for sitting in for Rodney today.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Hey Fred, can we do some more shameless promotion before
we get out of here? Since you were so kind
to talk about Kevin and I's show F and A
on FSR on Fox Sports Radio on Friday nights, I
got one more thing to tell you. Tell me on Saturday,
I will be at Marongo Casino at five doing a
Clippers talk live. Oh what a time to talk about
(29:33):
the Clippers. It's just perfect. I'll be on stage somewhere
in Maroango Casino at five this Saturday. I think that's
September twenty seventh, talking Clippers with the people.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
That is really cool. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, why.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Because it's the work we have chosen and I have
been asked to go there, and I think it's gonna
be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Fred.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yes, Now what time you're gonna leave to get out there?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Uh? Well at one pm?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
What time do I need to leave, Red, I don't know.
It's an hour and a half drive, I think. Well okay,
so here's a deal on a Saturday. All right, here's
the deal.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
If you leave, Yeah, how long do you want it
to take?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
What do you mean how long?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Like?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Beam me up, Scotty. I'd like it to take that long.
But it's going to be driving in a car.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
So no, if you want it to be an hour
and a half, you should not leave past two o'clock.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Uh huh, I'll do one nine it is.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, you'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
No, that's that's good.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And I'll be all set up and ready to go
and talking about scandals in the NBA, and hopefully they'll
let me talk about the Clippers actual off season some
instead of everything else going on.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
As a matter of fact, that's good. Where you're going
to talk about what you should leave now that I'm
thinking about it. You should leave at like eleven am.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Eleven am.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That will take you an hour and a half. I
know the exact time now, I know when to leave,
when not to leave.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
The show starts at five.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
What do you mean? Get out there? Go to the pool.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Oh, put out the vibes.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Listen. See the guy, the blonde guy in the blue coat.
It's and all the commercials now that walks up and
snaps his fingers and they win.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Is that one of the face morphers?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I think?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
So go see that guy.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
The guy gonna turn into a girl by the time
I leave.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Who knows what you'll look like?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
The blonde guy with the blue jacket and yeah, very descriptive, fred,
I'm sure I'll find him.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Go talk to the woman that walks out by the pool.
I would like to And then throws down her sash
and misses the chair and she throws it on the
ground and never reshot that. Go talk to her. She's
out there too.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Five o'clock this Saturday, Clippers Talk Live at Morocgo Casino.
Be there, please help me, God.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Ronnie, thank you, Kevin, appreciate it. Adam again, thanks for
hanging out.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Love you, Freddy,
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