September 24, 2025 • 43 mins
After the Dodgers blew another great starting pitching effort from Ohtani, the guys finally say what we've been tap dancing around for months now: Tanner Scott cant be trusted and can no longer be used in high leverage situations when the playoffs begin next week.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, let's get to a two hour show, Fred
Rogan Rodney Pete on se LA Sports one o'clock. It'll
be Bob Nightingale USA today joining US National Baseball Writer.
As we continue to move closer to the playoffs, we'll
get the perspective he has on where the Dodgers are
and all of Major League Baseball. So, Rodney, what do
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you want to say?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Can I just say this to start with? Because it's
been on my mind. I apologize for being off for
the last couple of days. It's been a little tough
to do something on Monday, but in a close friend's
father past, so I had to take care of that yesterday.
But Fred, we've been doing the show almost ten years, right, yeah, yeah,
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almost ten years. And you know, we we like to
think that we are objective, fair, but objective, right, you know.
And even though we are we are the you know
with the Dodger broadcast, and we're you know, broadcast at
Dodger games, and Dodgers are on our station. They are
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part owners of this station. We give it to the Dodgers.
We we let them have it when they're not performing well.
And we'll get into it today. And I just I can't.
I can't start this show coming back without recognizing the
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importance of Jimmy Kimmel coming back last night. I just
I can't because we're in the media, and you know,
I know half the country doesn't like it, wanted them
to canceled forever. But at the same time, that is
exactly what has made in separate this country from the
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rest of the world, is that people have been able
to speak their mind, good, bad, and different, and speak
their mind against their leaders. And since the beginning of
television radio, people have been able to do that. Go
back to I mean, people are listening. Don't even know
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Edward R. Morrow or Walter Cronkite or even Ed Sullivan
and Johnny Carson who we grew up on. I mean
all those guys along the way, David Letterman, all the
late night hosts that made fun of our leaders on
either side, on either side. And when we start to
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silence freedom of speech, then we're dead as a country.
We really are. And if you can only speak about
one side, and if you can only speak good about certain people,
then we are dead. We are dead. I was happy
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that that ABC decided to bring him back, you know,
and even with that there's still a number of stations
that don't have them because they feel a certain way,
which the ironic part is the person he was speaking
about spoke ill of many people publicly, which has been celebrated,
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and I'm not getting into that, especially people of color.
iHeart who we work for. They are the leading podcast
provider I believe in the world, correct, and if they
didn't allow their talent to speak their minds, they would
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not be the leaders in the world. And they have
it on both sides, right, left, middle and different. They
have talent throughout the iHeart family that speak their minds,
and they allow them to speak their minds and don't
limit them from speaking their minds, and I just I
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just have to acknowledge that, and I'm glad that he's
back and there you know, there's times on on the
other side that I didn't agree with, but I felt
that it was their right to speak what they want
to speak, you know, and and vice versa. It should
be and I was actually I was actually happy to
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see several individuals, including politicians on the right, support Jimmy
Kimmel coming back, because if we go down that road,
fred things we do here you and I do here,
it's going to cease to exist. Can you imagine if
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the Dodgers called and said, hey, don't speak anything bad
about the Dodgers, only only positive stuff. And let me
just say, that's never happened, never, never happened.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So it is.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's encouraging that he's back, and I just I just
couldn't go forward after coming back now and and and
having and seeing him on the air last night, and
thank god he's back. Whether you agree with him or not,
there's there's at least you got to acknowledge that half
the country does agree with him and like him, and
he is a popular figure so along with the other
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late night hosts, so they wouldn't be on. I mean,
you think about the guys in the past. If this
was the case and they went after Jimmy Kimmel, Carson
would have never been on the air, Letterman would have
never lasted as long as he did, that Sullivan would
have never lasted as long as he did. I mean,
it's just it would go on and on if we
continue down this road. So I just I just had
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to start to show with that. I just wanted to
acknowledge that. And I'm thankful that we have a platform
that we can speak our mind and talk about things
that may be controversial, may not be in favor with
the powers that be, but we're allowed to speak our mind.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
All right, well said, I'll add this. Half the people
do not like him, half the people do like him. Right,
whatever side you're on, you're on. But the thing that
bothered me about the whole thing, and Rodney, you're right,
and I'm not going to be labor the point. Right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You can't yank people off the ear like that.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
You just can't do it. You can't because there would
be no jobs for any of us. Right. But the
thing that really bothered me the Sinclair Broadcasting Group. They
own TV stations and they are ABC affiliates, meaning ABC
programming is carried on Sinclair stations, but it is Sinclair
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that makes decisions about their stations. They took the program
off their right off the bat. They took it off
right off the bat. Okay, that's their choice. They can
do that. They have to face the backlash of doing
it or the support they receive in doing it, but
they can do that. But the thing that bothered me
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is the Sinclair Broadcasting Group. The group, not ABC, This
group that carries ABC Programming announced that the only way
they would consider carrying this show again is if he
x y Z make a donation, make a financial donation
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to the group that he represented, make a donation. You,
Jimmy Kimmel, must pay them before we'll let you back
on the air certain words of an apology that they
wanted him to use. And if you don't say that,
we're not going to let you back. That was the problem.
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That was the problem. You are making demands, You are
making demands as a television station group owner that this
individual must do what you say or you're not going
to carry a show, including paying out of his own pocket,
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pay if you don't do this. And I thought to myself, honestly,
and whether you agree with Jimmy Kimmel or not, I
thought to myself, who the hell are you to tell
him what to do so you will like him again?
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Who are you to say that? Who are you to
tell somebody, Hey, he works for ABC. They have insurance
for these kinds of things. By the way, if they
get sued, they have insurance.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You know a lot for it. No, you will pay.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's like, what who are you to tell him that?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That's how the business works. If ABC doesn't want to
have Jimmy Kimmel on the air, he's off. If they
want to have him on the air, he's on. Simple.
But when you who owns a station in Tacoma or
wherever it is, starts making demands, that was it. I thought,
Now this thing is completely out of control, spiraled out
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of control. It again. I saw what Jimmy Kimmel said
last night. Yeah, I thought it was very well said. Okay,
but you know we can feel that way, Rodney. I'm
going to tell you something. There are people listening to
us right this second that think we're both full of it,
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both full of it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
He should be off. He's a he's a bad man,
he's anti American, he's all of these things. I'm sure
there's a number of listeners listening right now. Go. I
can't believe he's back on the air, but what.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
He said, and I can't believe these two guys are
even talking about it. And I can't even believe Rodney
said it was a good idea. I can't believe he
would say that. Of course, Yeah, there are people that
don't agree with you right now, Rodney, there are people,
and you know what, there are people that don't agree
with me saying that Sinclair should have nothing to do
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with this another company. Guess what it's okay, imagine feel
that way. Imagine if I'm just gonna go there, Fred.
Imagine if Obama when he was president for eight years okay,
and the visceral attacks that he've received from Fox News right,
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Imagine he went and told his people, pull all those anchors,
O'Reilly and what's the other guy? I forget the big
name guy, the other guy whoever the handle on Sean Hannity,
pull him off the air. They can't be on the
air because they're talking bad about me, and they constantly
talk bad about me. We need them off. FCC director,
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I'm appointing you. Pull them off, and let's go on
a campaign to get him off the air. You imagine,
can you imagine? And people don't realize is.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Jimmy Kimmel and Letterman and almost they made fun of
Obama as much as they make fun of Trump.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
During that time.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yes, Hollywood is liberal, Okay, yes, but they still were
equal opportunity comedians that made fun of both sides. The
attacks that they made on Bill Clinton when he was president.
Are you kidding me? If Bill Clinton wanted a vendetta
against all the people that made attacks me, nobody would
be on the air. Nobody. So it is. It is
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interesting times that we're in. And I don't care what
side you're on, but if you don't allow people to
speak their mind in this country, it doesn't This country
is not what it was founded on. And and that's
that's the bottom line, and that's what you should be
fighting for, not to cancel people for speaking their mind
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or speaking up against our leaders. Because we don't do that,
then nobody's held accountable. I don't know, uh what the
next shoot to drop is here? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I'll tell you this. He's back on the air and
they're not taking them off once he went back.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And see he's not. Yeah, ABC's not taking them off.
So what happens to Sinclair? This is this is your
area of fred What happens to Sinclair? As the you know,
the large one of the largest and there's another one?
What next next? Our next star? They're the largest owners
of affiliates around the country. Does ABC? Because ABC has
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to give them the rights to broadcast whether it be
soap operas, ABC News Tonight or whatever shows that are
that are network type of shows. Don't they have the
right to say, Okay, we're gonna pull those programming from
your affiliates if you don't put this back. Does ABC
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have that right? For instance, like if it was NBC
where you work, and Dick Wolf said, okay, you're gonna
do that, then I'm not any of my programming, any
of mine, which he owns NBC basically Dick Wolf if
you guys don't know, Dick Wolf owns all of Law
and Order, the whole Thursday night lineup, everything NBC drama.
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Dick Wolf is produced it. And if he came out
and said, I am not allowing my network or my
shows to be shown on any of us Sinclair own
networks or affiliates around the country, is that something that
could be a possibility or in the power of an
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NBC or an ABC. Yeah, that is a possibility when
it comes to affiliation agreements. So every group, every station
that has an affiliation agreement with what are the networks, ABC, NBCCBS,
they are required to carry so much programming that is
in the agreement. They have to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You cannot preempt it if you preempt that programming. They
can strip that affiliation from you and give it to
another station. What do I think is going to happen
at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I think that he's going to continue on. Sinclair will
try somehow to save face. But they really can't because
they went out and made this grandiose statement. But they
can't because I don't see them taking him off again.
And here's the other can.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Av so on that can ABC say if you don't
air Jimmy Kimmel, we can award ABC affiliate to a
different local station Stacey in the market, Yes, in the market, Yeah,
they can do that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
They can yank the affiliation if you are an NBC affiliate.
We were owned station. But if you're an affiliate, you've
got to run the Tonight Show, you have to run
the Today Show, you have to run Prime Time. You
have to. It's part of your affiliation agreement. If you decide,
you know what, We're just not going to carry the
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Today Show anymore, we don't like it. We're going to
put our own show in and replace the Today Show,
and BC would yank your affiliation. You would then become
an independent station. We'll stand on those lines and I apologize. Guys.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
We're going to get into a lot of stuff. But
this is really important because The View is a national
show and an ABC show, and so I'm sure there's
talks about The View, which leans left, leans you know,
pretty hard left, and is at a show that the
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Sinclair Group will say we're going to pull or have
pulled from certain markets and say we're not going to
air this on our network. And ABC says you have
to air The View, which is a big time popular show.
You've been going for twenty five years, since Barbara Walters
was doing it right, So what happens is you are
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in violation of your affiliation agreement. I mean, this is
how it works. Yeah, you are refusing. We have an agreement,
it is signed. This is how it works. We provide
programming to your station, which then you sell. So that's
how you make money with our programming. If you are
refusing to air certain programs forever, we will yank your affiliation. Yes,
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but here's the thing. Here's the thing that I don't
think anybody considered. Okay, we will yank the affiliation, or
we're not going to air Jimmy Kimmel in certain markets. Okay,
you understand it's going to air on Hulu, right, you
understand that people living in your very city that want
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to see it, but you won't air it, They're going
to see it anyway, you know why. They're just going
to pay for a subscription to Hulu and then they're
going to watch it. And what does that mean? Fewer
people are going to watch your TV station? And what
does that mean? You will make less money? They don't
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even need you, they really don't. Don't could say in
those markets, we will air it live. What I mean,
simple will carry it, and they carry it, but they
could say we're going to carry it live instead of
you could do that after, you know, because normally they
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do it the streaming services. It'll be next day, after
the next day or whatever. But in light of whatever
Sinclair's doing, Hulu could say, Okay, in those markets, we're
going to carry it live. And who owns Hulu Disney
maybe right, See, there's a solution to this.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
There is a solution. And if you aside from that
initial oh my god, it's pretty cut and dried, ABC
put and you might not like them, and you might
not like what he said or stood for. I'm not
saying you're wrong. I'm not saying you're right, but I'm
saying this. He's back and he's probably not going to
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go anywhere. And I had this conversation yesterday with some
one who was going to yank all their advertising dollars
from the ABC station out here and put them on
our station because they were so upset that ABC took
Jimmy Kimmel off. And I was talking to him, or
I talked to him on Monday. Actually I said, we
want your money, give it to us, we'll take it. Well,
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you know they're going to put him back on, right,
He's going to go back on because bestly out here, right, Yeah,
he's got to go back on. So that's it. That
was kind of a we kind of started in a
different way today, a little differently.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Let's say, yeah, I had to do it, though. I
had to do it because life is life, and we
talk about life here too as well. And appreciate you
guys allowing us to kind of event a little bit
and talk about real life for a minute. All Right,
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when we come back, we'll get into the Dodgers and
the bullpen problem.
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Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh yeah, let's keep it moving, keep it moving, Rodney
Pete fred Rogan on a hump Day on a Wednesday. Yes, yes, Freddy,
let's move into it now, let's get into it. Brother.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Okay, Well, on the topic of not being censored now
we have to go hard on the Dodger bullpen, Yes,
we do. On the topic of you've got to be
able to speak your mind, let's speak it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Last night, every time one of these things happens, I go, well,
that's it. That's a new LUW.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That's that.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
It can't get my's worse than that. I thought the
Yamamoto No Hitter game was pretty bad, and Colorado I
thought that was pretty bad. Then we had one that
came after when I went, oh, no, well this one
top that one. Yeah, and now last night top that.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, because it's and it's Otani giving them six straight,
no runs, no even sniffing anything, not even sniffing a run,
not even not even I mean, you know those smells
are on those cartoons you used to watch when they
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had the little trail of smell that somebody was cooking
a steak and then the dog would smell it from
a mile away and then have the smoke smell and
the dog would sniff it and go, oh, something's happening
over there. I gotta go get it. It was none
of that at all, or Tani last night, and oh
my god, oh my god, fred I am I have
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turned the corner now, given that we are what do
we now? Five games left? Five games left. They had
the series with Seattle and they've got two more I
think with Arizona, so five I think five games left. Anyway,
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You can't truck Tanner Scott out there anymore. There, Okay,
there you go. Can't do it.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You said it, you said it. I mean, Jack Dryer
had a tough outing. Enriquez didn't do well. But then
you have one job. You are paid for one thing.
You have one job one How many times do we
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have to emphasize this? You are paid for one thing.
You are paid a lot of money to do one thing.
You're the last line of defense. You're the five. You
have to put out the fire. You're it. You're the pilot.
And the plane now seems to be shaking. You have
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to save the plane. You are the captain of the ship,
and the ship seems to be going down. You have
to save the ship. It is your job to save it.
That is the only reason you get paid.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You might be having a bad year. Obviously he is.
You might be a terrific guy. I wouldn't know, but
no one says he's not. You may have parents and
a family and they all feel poorly for you, and
they feel badly for you, and they empathize with you,
and they probably should. All of that can be true,
but the overriding fact is it is your job to
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stop it. That is why you're on the team. The
only reason you're there. You have one reason. That is
the reason. He's had a bad year. That doesn't mean
next year he won't come back and say forty nine games,
but it ain't happening this year, and guys go through
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things will acknowledge that. But if you cannot do the
one fundamental thing that you are hired to do. You
are a doctor. You are a surgeon, but you can't operate,
or when you do, you keep leaving a piece of
equipment inside somebody. You are an attorney, yet you've lost
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the ability to debate. That doesn't make you a very
good attorney. At that point, you wouldn't go to that attorney.
You wouldn't go to that doctor. You wouldn't get on
a plane with somebody that had been struggling flying it.
You just wouldn't. Nobody in their right mind would. And
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when you're one responsibility is to shut it down. And
now there is a track record, proof of performance, a
body of work which indicates you are not doing that
this year. You cannot be put in that situation anymore
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because as you sit here and you think about it,
let's say he goes in tonight and it happens again,
but the padres win think about that falling around time
is over. Trying to figure it out doesn't exist anymore.
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You've got to have it figured out now. There's no
more experimentation, no more give him another crack at it.
The body of work indicates he's not there this year.
Simple costly and imagine imagine if they lose the division.
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Imagine they're playing the clubs. Clubs. Now, imagine the division,
and imagine if you go back over one hundred and
sixty two games, and if they lose the division by
one game? How many of those one hundred and sixty
two in? How many of those the Tanner Scott blow
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it blow the save in? How many of those did
they lose? Ten? Eight, nine, five? Guess what whatever the
number is, it could be won too many? Then what
are you going to do? This experiment needs to be
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done now. Yeah, it's get you next year. Next year.
We'll get you.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Next year. We'll get you. We'll get your right in
spring training. We'll get you right in spring training. We
don't hate you. We don't hate you, Rodney. You still
got talent. Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
We're not we're just.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
A bad year. You had a bad year. You had
a bad year.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So we'll fix it. Yeah, but not now.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Give us a full give us a full off season
and spring training to get you right. But right now, no,
there is no trust whatsoever. And and the and the
problem also is there comes a level Fred and I
know this from a player and as a player, because
we all go through it. We all go through slumps.
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We all go through times during the season where you're
you're struggling and then you find it. But there's also
a time when as a player and as a teammate,
you go, that guy ain't got it and we got
to go with somebody else. You know, it's a it's
a receiver in football that has the drops and he
just has been dropping all season long. And you know,
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we get the last part of the season, last two games,
and he's still dropping. He's like, I can go to
him anymore. I wanted to give him a shot. I
wanted to keep going to him. I wanted to build
his company. I just I can't throw the ball to
him anymore. And it comes to a point where your
teammates don't trust you. And when it gets to that point,
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you got to make a move. And you can't keep
trotting him out there because the teammates are going to
go look at you, go, what are we doing? You
know in a one run ball game, and they see
him come out of the pen, and the whole infield
and outfield go, really, you can't get they the Dodgers
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are at that point with him now where I think
that the rest of the team is feeling less. Regroup
and get him right next year, because right now it
doesn't matter what the lead is. It doesn't matter. We're
up to run, we're up four runs, we're up one run,
it doesn't matter. The confidence in tennor Scott right now
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is shot shot. And I don't care how talented you are.
If you don't play with confidence, you can't succeed.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And there have been people, and it's all through sports,
guys with less talent but with all kinds of confidence
have more success with the guys with all the talent
in the world with low confidence. So the fact that
where he is right now, you can't keep trotting him
out there because at some point you're going to lose
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the team as well, because they're looking at you, going
why we keep putting that guy out there? Why do
we keep trotting him out there? We're up two runs
in the eighth or the ninth, Why are we doing this?
I love him, but come on, let's go win the game.
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He doesn't have it. He does that have it This
year we can fix him, but he does not have it.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And I am assuming that the guys who are on
the team as teammates feel badly for him as he struggles.
I'm sure they do. But again, Dave Roberts has said
over and over, this is a performance based business. It's
pretty simple. A guy they call up from OKAC. If
he plays well, he sticks. If he doesn't, they send him.
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Now why it's performance based. Now, it's different when you
sign a guy to a four year deal for like
whatever it is, seventy six million dollars or whatever they're
paying them, you're not going to send them to OKAC.
But it is performance based. It's very apparent. And the
bullpen didn't do anybody he favors last night. I mean,
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let's be honest, the whole bullpen, really, let's be honest.
But that's the one guy that shuts it down, the
one guy that finishes it. And he can't. He just can't.
I mean, this is very different than last year. Last
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year there were no starting pitchers and the bullpen became stars.
The bullpens saved the Dodger season last year because the
starting pitchers were hurt. It's exactly the opposite this year.
The starting pitchers are healthy, but it's the bullpen that's struggling.
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And the problem with that the bullpen is the last
line of defense.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, that's it. I mean, how about seriously thinking about
that last night? How like the internal struggle right now
and well last night and Dave Roberts and Mark Pryor's
head about the way Otani was dealing last night, of
them thinking, God, I wish you could just go finish
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this game. Let's just let him go finish the game.
They couldn't touch him. They could not touch O'tani. You
know what it reminded me of when I was watching that.
It reminded me of that Tampa Bay World Series when
Mookie Bett was on deck and they went and got
they went and got Blake Snell and took him out
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of the game, and Mookie turned around to the dugout
and started smiling said, basically if you could read his lips,
even though he didn't say it, it was like, Okay,
now we got him.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
That's That's what it felt like. That's what it felt like.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
It is pretty much, but that's what it felt like
for Arizona last night was when O'tani went out of
the game and the bullpen came in, It's like, okay,
all right, now gonna go win the game now, We're
gonna go win the game.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
They could not.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Touch Otani, so you know, going forward, it's say, I
gotta believe part of Dave Roberts is like, man, I
wish I could just let him go to the ninth,
you know, because if I can get him into the ninth,
then we got a four run lead in the ninth.
Maybe they won't give up four runs. They may give
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up two, right, but they're not gonna give up four.
Let's let's get Let's get us to the ninth with Otani.
Buddy pulled them and and rightfully so because they gotta
save him. But what do you think goes on as
they go into the postseason now? Because their starters, as
you mentioned, have been incredible, They've been great.
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He didn't use any tools. He just puts his hand
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plan to make the game's only six innings long? Okay,
not a bad plan? Six inning games little League, Major League.
They don't have to go to the Little League World
Series six inning games?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Is that what you want for it.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
No bullpen, just let the start. It is closing out.
But here, this is my plan, and I know it's
going to sound a bit extreme, so it's a work
in progress. But hear me out. So I was a
big proponent of Clayton Kershaw starting games. I've said that,
I'm on the record, but sometimes in the playoffs, right,
(37:25):
I said that, ye yeah, I'm not going to walk
it back. Everybody thinks I'm crazy. Now I'm not going
to walk it back, but maybe we have to try
something else. Three game series, right, so you start Snell, Yamamoto, Otani,
that's it, and the best of three to get started.
Let's say Snell goes out, goes five plus and the
(37:47):
Dodgers are in great shape. You got to go to
the bullpen. The bullpen is going to be Kershaw or
Emitshian come in and just go we need four. We
don't even want to go to the bullpen at this
point unless it's an emergency. Next game, Yamamoto goes out there,
(38:08):
does fine, whatever, they won the whole series. If not,
whoever didn't pitch the night before goes in tomorrow, and
then maybe we'll bring Alex whoever didn't pitch the night before,
So whoever didn't pitch goes the next the next night
as the relief reliever. You go, well, game three, who
get Yamamoto starts I mean uh kersha, I mean ah
(38:31):
Otani starts Game three. If you happen to go to
game three, okay, Orani starts game two. However, you want
to shake it out, whatever your plan is in the
three game series, that's what you do. Well, you know,
we got to bring guys in in a certain situations.
You're putting a starting pitcher in to finish the game.
There's no matchups. Emmachian's gonna go four plus, okay, three
(38:56):
plus whatever it is and get out of here. There's
no ninth inning. Guy comes running in from the bullpen.
He's just finishing the game. Kershaw, just finishing the game.
If they get into.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Trouble, they do something that they've never done before this
whole season. Yes, you're gonna put them in a situation
that they have not done at all the whole season long.
So Immitchian comes in in the seventh yep, and he's
never come into relief. We're just gonna throw him in
that situation and get get in there, get in there
and do it.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yep. Same for Kershaw, get in there, just do it.
We need you to do it. Do it, go be you.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
They've both been very good starting.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
We're not gonna piece me all this thing and here
comes Kirby's on the.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
They've been very good Fred starting. They've been very good.
Not coming out of the book, which is a different animal. No,
I hear you, I get it. But you know what
whole thing like, certain guys, it's any sport. There are
guys that can come off the bench in basketball. Benny Johnson,
Michael Cooper, sixth man of the Year, you know, Jamal Crawford,
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six man of They those guys are ready to go.
They see the game develop and they see what's happening.
They analyze the game in the first quarter. Then they
bring him in in the second quarter and they just
know how to navigate the game because they watched it.
They watched it develop, they watched the starters play, and
they go, Okay, I can get this. I can get that.
I'm watching this. I got that now if I do that,
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and they come in and they light it up. Rennie
Johnson microwave. He got the name because he was a
sixth Man of the Year, and he came in in
the second quarter and lit it up for the Pistons
because he analyzed what was happening in that first quarter.
If he starts, it's a different animal. He's not Bennie
Johnson the microwave. He's not Jamal Crawford, mister crossover that
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comes in and goes, Okay, now I can I this
guy's gonna guard me, or this is how they're gonna play.
I got it, I got I got a formula for that.
There's an art to guys coming off the bench, and
there's an art to guys coming out.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Of the bullpen. Understand, one hundred percent agree at this point.
Really don't care. Desperate times require desperate measure. You don't
care desperate times required desperate measures. It's pretty simple. Last
year you had to have in the World Series, in
the playoffs, bullpen games. It was desperate. You had to
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do things you had not done the whole year, and
if you did very sporadically, you were desperate.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
You had bullpen guys, bullpen guys that could come in
and moments notice games already and fires already started, and
we just you know, either kept the fire lit, shut
the fire down, kept the fire where it was. But
they were used to situations like that. You can't just
start a You just can't throw a starter who's used
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to warming up, you know, getting his routine in for
an hour before the game, and then you know, start
the game and then first hitter of the game, lineup,
all that stuff, and all of a sudden, you're gonna
throw him in the seventh inning with hey, hey, you
got you got five minutes to warm up. You got
two minutes to warm up and get ready to go.
(42:22):
You're the second face. You're gonna face the bulk, the
heart of the lineup. Rudney, you're the second guy tonight.
You got to be ready to go. So get ready
in the fifth, get ready in the fourth, start stretching,
do what you do.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Get ready. We're gonna need you, so walk Er, Buleerate,
figure it out, get ready, get ready to go in Yeah,
because here's your alternative. Let's send Tanner Scott out there again.
Let's send three guys out there and each one gives
(42:56):
up a home run and Tanner Scott gives up the
last one and they lose. Let's try. Oh I'm sorry,
we've tried that. We've already done that plan. As a
matter of fact, we've done that plan more than once
this year. I'm telling you it's not a bad plan. Interesting,
(43:18):
you know what, Maybe I'm nuts, all right, and you
would probably agree to that. So we'll bring Bob Nightingale
USA today and ask him.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Now. I want you to present that to him.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
You know what, you can present it for me, so
you don't think I'm gonna, you know, change the way
I said it, all right, all right, when he comes down,
we'll do that.
All right, let's get to a two hour show, Fred
Rogan Rodney Pete on se LA Sports one o'clock. It'll
be Bob Nightingale USA today joining US National Baseball Writer.
As we continue to move closer to the playoffs, we'll
get the perspective he has on where the Dodgers are
and all of Major League Baseball. So, Rodney, what do
(00:23):
you want to say?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Can I just say this to start with? Because it's
been on my mind. I apologize for being off for
the last couple of days. It's been a little tough
to do something on Monday, but in a close friend's
father past, so I had to take care of that yesterday.
But Fred, we've been doing the show almost ten years, right, yeah, yeah,
(00:51):
almost ten years. And you know, we we like to
think that we are objective, fair, but objective, right, you know.
And even though we are we are the you know
with the Dodger broadcast, and we're you know, broadcast at
Dodger games, and Dodgers are on our station. They are
(01:13):
part owners of this station. We give it to the Dodgers.
We we let them have it when they're not performing well.
And we'll get into it today. And I just I can't.
I can't start this show coming back without recognizing the
(01:36):
importance of Jimmy Kimmel coming back last night. I just
I can't because we're in the media, and you know,
I know half the country doesn't like it, wanted them
to canceled forever. But at the same time, that is
exactly what has made in separate this country from the
(02:01):
rest of the world, is that people have been able
to speak their mind, good, bad, and different, and speak
their mind against their leaders. And since the beginning of
television radio, people have been able to do that. Go
back to I mean, people are listening. Don't even know
(02:21):
Edward R. Morrow or Walter Cronkite or even Ed Sullivan
and Johnny Carson who we grew up on. I mean
all those guys along the way, David Letterman, all the
late night hosts that made fun of our leaders on
either side, on either side. And when we start to
(02:42):
silence freedom of speech, then we're dead as a country.
We really are. And if you can only speak about
one side, and if you can only speak good about certain people,
then we are dead. We are dead. I was happy
(03:03):
that that ABC decided to bring him back, you know,
and even with that there's still a number of stations
that don't have them because they feel a certain way,
which the ironic part is the person he was speaking
about spoke ill of many people publicly, which has been celebrated,
(03:27):
and I'm not getting into that, especially people of color.
iHeart who we work for. They are the leading podcast
provider I believe in the world, correct, and if they
didn't allow their talent to speak their minds, they would
(03:50):
not be the leaders in the world. And they have
it on both sides, right, left, middle and different. They
have talent throughout the iHeart family that speak their minds,
and they allow them to speak their minds and don't
limit them from speaking their minds, and I just I
(04:13):
just have to acknowledge that, and I'm glad that he's
back and there you know, there's times on on the
other side that I didn't agree with, but I felt
that it was their right to speak what they want
to speak, you know, and and vice versa. It should
be and I was actually I was actually happy to
(04:38):
see several individuals, including politicians on the right, support Jimmy
Kimmel coming back, because if we go down that road,
fred things we do here you and I do here,
it's going to cease to exist. Can you imagine if
(04:58):
the Dodgers called and said, hey, don't speak anything bad
about the Dodgers, only only positive stuff. And let me
just say, that's never happened, never, never happened.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So it is.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's encouraging that he's back, and I just I just
couldn't go forward after coming back now and and and
having and seeing him on the air last night, and
thank god he's back. Whether you agree with him or not,
there's there's at least you got to acknowledge that half
the country does agree with him and like him, and
he is a popular figure so along with the other
(05:35):
late night hosts, so they wouldn't be on. I mean,
you think about the guys in the past. If this
was the case and they went after Jimmy Kimmel, Carson
would have never been on the air, Letterman would have
never lasted as long as he did, that Sullivan would
have never lasted as long as he did. I mean,
it's just it would go on and on if we
continue down this road. So I just I just had
(05:57):
to start to show with that. I just wanted to
acknowledge that. And I'm thankful that we have a platform
that we can speak our mind and talk about things
that may be controversial, may not be in favor with
the powers that be, but we're allowed to speak our mind.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
All right, well said, I'll add this. Half the people
do not like him, half the people do like him. Right,
whatever side you're on, you're on. But the thing that
bothered me about the whole thing, and Rodney, you're right,
and I'm not going to be labor the point. Right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You can't yank people off the ear like that.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
You just can't do it. You can't because there would
be no jobs for any of us. Right. But the
thing that really bothered me the Sinclair Broadcasting Group. They
own TV stations and they are ABC affiliates, meaning ABC
programming is carried on Sinclair stations, but it is Sinclair
(07:00):
that makes decisions about their stations. They took the program
off their right off the bat. They took it off
right off the bat. Okay, that's their choice. They can
do that. They have to face the backlash of doing
it or the support they receive in doing it, but
they can do that. But the thing that bothered me
(07:22):
is the Sinclair Broadcasting Group. The group, not ABC, This
group that carries ABC Programming announced that the only way
they would consider carrying this show again is if he
x y Z make a donation, make a financial donation
(07:46):
to the group that he represented, make a donation. You,
Jimmy Kimmel, must pay them before we'll let you back
on the air certain words of an apology that they
wanted him to use. And if you don't say that,
we're not going to let you back. That was the problem.
(08:09):
That was the problem. You are making demands, You are
making demands as a television station group owner that this
individual must do what you say or you're not going
to carry a show, including paying out of his own pocket,
(08:31):
pay if you don't do this. And I thought to myself, honestly,
and whether you agree with Jimmy Kimmel or not, I
thought to myself, who the hell are you to tell
him what to do so you will like him again?
(08:51):
Who are you to say that? Who are you to
tell somebody, Hey, he works for ABC. They have insurance
for these kinds of things. By the way, if they
get sued, they have insurance.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You know a lot for it. No, you will pay.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's like, what who are you to tell him that?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That's how the business works. If ABC doesn't want to
have Jimmy Kimmel on the air, he's off. If they
want to have him on the air, he's on. Simple.
But when you who owns a station in Tacoma or
wherever it is, starts making demands, that was it. I thought,
Now this thing is completely out of control, spiraled out
(09:39):
of control. It again. I saw what Jimmy Kimmel said
last night. Yeah, I thought it was very well said. Okay,
but you know we can feel that way, Rodney. I'm
going to tell you something. There are people listening to
us right this second that think we're both full of it,
(10:00):
both full of it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
He should be off. He's a he's a bad man,
he's anti American, he's all of these things. I'm sure
there's a number of listeners listening right now. Go. I
can't believe he's back on the air, but what.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
He said, and I can't believe these two guys are
even talking about it. And I can't even believe Rodney
said it was a good idea. I can't believe he
would say that. Of course, Yeah, there are people that
don't agree with you right now, Rodney, there are people,
and you know what, there are people that don't agree
with me saying that Sinclair should have nothing to do
(10:33):
with this another company. Guess what it's okay, imagine feel
that way. Imagine if I'm just gonna go there, Fred.
Imagine if Obama when he was president for eight years okay,
and the visceral attacks that he've received from Fox News right,
(10:55):
Imagine he went and told his people, pull all those anchors,
O'Reilly and what's the other guy? I forget the big
name guy, the other guy whoever the handle on Sean Hannity,
pull him off the air. They can't be on the
air because they're talking bad about me, and they constantly
talk bad about me. We need them off. FCC director,
(11:16):
I'm appointing you. Pull them off, and let's go on
a campaign to get him off the air. You imagine,
can you imagine? And people don't realize is.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Jimmy Kimmel and Letterman and almost they made fun of
Obama as much as they make fun of Trump.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
During that time.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yes, Hollywood is liberal, Okay, yes, but they still were
equal opportunity comedians that made fun of both sides. The
attacks that they made on Bill Clinton when he was president.
Are you kidding me? If Bill Clinton wanted a vendetta
against all the people that made attacks me, nobody would
be on the air. Nobody. So it is. It is
(12:06):
interesting times that we're in. And I don't care what
side you're on, but if you don't allow people to
speak their mind in this country, it doesn't This country
is not what it was founded on. And and that's
that's the bottom line, and that's what you should be
fighting for, not to cancel people for speaking their mind
(12:28):
or speaking up against our leaders. Because we don't do that,
then nobody's held accountable. I don't know, uh what the
next shoot to drop is here? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I'll tell you this. He's back on the air and
they're not taking them off once he went back.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And see he's not. Yeah, ABC's not taking them off.
So what happens to Sinclair? This is this is your
area of fred What happens to Sinclair? As the you know,
the large one of the largest and there's another one?
What next next? Our next star? They're the largest owners
of affiliates around the country. Does ABC? Because ABC has
(13:09):
to give them the rights to broadcast whether it be
soap operas, ABC News Tonight or whatever shows that are
that are network type of shows. Don't they have the
right to say, Okay, we're gonna pull those programming from
your affiliates if you don't put this back. Does ABC
(13:31):
have that right? For instance, like if it was NBC
where you work, and Dick Wolf said, okay, you're gonna
do that, then I'm not any of my programming, any
of mine, which he owns NBC basically Dick Wolf if
you guys don't know, Dick Wolf owns all of Law
and Order, the whole Thursday night lineup, everything NBC drama.
(13:55):
Dick Wolf is produced it. And if he came out
and said, I am not allowing my network or my
shows to be shown on any of us Sinclair own
networks or affiliates around the country, is that something that
could be a possibility or in the power of an
(14:18):
NBC or an ABC. Yeah, that is a possibility when
it comes to affiliation agreements. So every group, every station
that has an affiliation agreement with what are the networks, ABC, NBCCBS,
they are required to carry so much programming that is
in the agreement. They have to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You cannot preempt it if you preempt that programming. They
can strip that affiliation from you and give it to
another station. What do I think is going to happen
at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I think that he's going to continue on. Sinclair will
try somehow to save face. But they really can't because
they went out and made this grandiose statement. But they
can't because I don't see them taking him off again.
And here's the other can.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Av so on that can ABC say if you don't
air Jimmy Kimmel, we can award ABC affiliate to a
different local station Stacey in the market, Yes, in the market, Yeah,
they can do that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
They can yank the affiliation if you are an NBC affiliate.
We were owned station. But if you're an affiliate, you've
got to run the Tonight Show, you have to run
the Today Show, you have to run Prime Time. You
have to. It's part of your affiliation agreement. If you decide,
you know what, We're just not going to carry the
(15:47):
Today Show anymore, we don't like it. We're going to
put our own show in and replace the Today Show,
and BC would yank your affiliation. You would then become
an independent station. We'll stand on those lines and I apologize. Guys.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
We're going to get into a lot of stuff. But
this is really important because The View is a national
show and an ABC show, and so I'm sure there's
talks about The View, which leans left, leans you know,
pretty hard left, and is at a show that the
(16:26):
Sinclair Group will say we're going to pull or have
pulled from certain markets and say we're not going to
air this on our network. And ABC says you have
to air The View, which is a big time popular show.
You've been going for twenty five years, since Barbara Walters
was doing it right, So what happens is you are
(16:47):
in violation of your affiliation agreement. I mean, this is
how it works. Yeah, you are refusing. We have an agreement,
it is signed. This is how it works. We provide
programming to your station, which then you sell. So that's
how you make money with our programming. If you are
refusing to air certain programs forever, we will yank your affiliation. Yes,
(17:13):
but here's the thing. Here's the thing that I don't
think anybody considered. Okay, we will yank the affiliation, or
we're not going to air Jimmy Kimmel in certain markets. Okay,
you understand it's going to air on Hulu, right, you
understand that people living in your very city that want
(17:36):
to see it, but you won't air it, They're going
to see it anyway, you know why. They're just going
to pay for a subscription to Hulu and then they're
going to watch it. And what does that mean? Fewer
people are going to watch your TV station? And what
does that mean? You will make less money? They don't
(17:56):
even need you, they really don't. Don't could say in
those markets, we will air it live. What I mean,
simple will carry it, and they carry it, but they
could say we're going to carry it live instead of
you could do that after, you know, because normally they
(18:17):
do it the streaming services. It'll be next day, after
the next day or whatever. But in light of whatever
Sinclair's doing, Hulu could say, Okay, in those markets, we're
going to carry it live. And who owns Hulu Disney
maybe right, See, there's a solution to this.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
There is a solution. And if you aside from that
initial oh my god, it's pretty cut and dried, ABC
put and you might not like them, and you might
not like what he said or stood for. I'm not
saying you're wrong. I'm not saying you're right, but I'm
saying this. He's back and he's probably not going to
(18:57):
go anywhere. And I had this conversation yesterday with some
one who was going to yank all their advertising dollars
from the ABC station out here and put them on
our station because they were so upset that ABC took
Jimmy Kimmel off. And I was talking to him, or
I talked to him on Monday. Actually I said, we
want your money, give it to us, we'll take it. Well,
(19:18):
you know they're going to put him back on, right,
He's going to go back on because bestly out here, right, Yeah,
he's got to go back on. So that's it. That
was kind of a we kind of started in a
different way today, a little differently.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Let's say, yeah, I had to do it, though. I
had to do it because life is life, and we
talk about life here too as well. And appreciate you
guys allowing us to kind of event a little bit
and talk about real life for a minute. All Right,
(19:57):
when we come back, we'll get into the Dodgers and
the bullpen problem.
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Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh yeah, let's keep it moving, keep it moving, Rodney
Pete fred Rogan on a hump Day on a Wednesday. Yes, yes, Freddy,
let's move into it now, let's get into it. Brother.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Okay, Well, on the topic of not being censored now
we have to go hard on the Dodger bullpen, Yes,
we do. On the topic of you've got to be
able to speak your mind, let's speak it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Last night, every time one of these things happens, I go, well,
that's it. That's a new LUW.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That's that.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
It can't get my's worse than that. I thought the
Yamamoto No Hitter game was pretty bad, and Colorado I
thought that was pretty bad. Then we had one that
came after when I went, oh, no, well this one
top that one. Yeah, and now last night top that.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, because it's and it's Otani giving them six straight,
no runs, no even sniffing anything, not even sniffing a run,
not even not even I mean, you know those smells
are on those cartoons you used to watch when they
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had the little trail of smell that somebody was cooking
a steak and then the dog would smell it from
a mile away and then have the smoke smell and
the dog would sniff it and go, oh, something's happening
over there. I gotta go get it. It was none
of that at all, or Tani last night, and oh
my god, oh my god, fred I am I have
(22:00):
turned the corner now, given that we are what do
we now? Five games left? Five games left. They had
the series with Seattle and they've got two more I
think with Arizona, so five I think five games left. Anyway,
(22:21):
You can't truck Tanner Scott out there anymore. There, Okay,
there you go. Can't do it.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You said it, you said it. I mean, Jack Dryer
had a tough outing. Enriquez didn't do well. But then
you have one job. You are paid for one thing.
You have one job one How many times do we
(22:49):
have to emphasize this? You are paid for one thing.
You are paid a lot of money to do one thing.
You're the last line of defense. You're the five. You
have to put out the fire. You're it. You're the pilot.
And the plane now seems to be shaking. You have
(23:10):
to save the plane. You are the captain of the ship,
and the ship seems to be going down. You have
to save the ship. It is your job to save it.
That is the only reason you get paid.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You might be having a bad year. Obviously he is.
You might be a terrific guy. I wouldn't know, but
no one says he's not. You may have parents and
a family and they all feel poorly for you, and
they feel badly for you, and they empathize with you,
and they probably should. All of that can be true,
but the overriding fact is it is your job to
(23:51):
stop it. That is why you're on the team. The
only reason you're there. You have one reason. That is
the reason. He's had a bad year. That doesn't mean
next year he won't come back and say forty nine games,
but it ain't happening this year, and guys go through
(24:13):
things will acknowledge that. But if you cannot do the
one fundamental thing that you are hired to do. You
are a doctor. You are a surgeon, but you can't operate,
or when you do, you keep leaving a piece of
equipment inside somebody. You are an attorney, yet you've lost
(24:38):
the ability to debate. That doesn't make you a very
good attorney. At that point, you wouldn't go to that attorney.
You wouldn't go to that doctor. You wouldn't get on
a plane with somebody that had been struggling flying it.
You just wouldn't. Nobody in their right mind would. And
(24:59):
when you're one responsibility is to shut it down. And
now there is a track record, proof of performance, a
body of work which indicates you are not doing that
this year. You cannot be put in that situation anymore
(25:19):
because as you sit here and you think about it,
let's say he goes in tonight and it happens again,
but the padres win think about that falling around time
is over. Trying to figure it out doesn't exist anymore.
(25:40):
You've got to have it figured out now. There's no
more experimentation, no more give him another crack at it.
The body of work indicates he's not there this year.
Simple costly and imagine imagine if they lose the division.
(26:04):
Imagine they're playing the clubs. Clubs. Now, imagine the division,
and imagine if you go back over one hundred and
sixty two games, and if they lose the division by
one game? How many of those one hundred and sixty
two in? How many of those the Tanner Scott blow
(26:26):
it blow the save in? How many of those did
they lose? Ten? Eight, nine, five? Guess what whatever the
number is, it could be won too many? Then what
are you going to do? This experiment needs to be
(26:50):
done now. Yeah, it's get you next year. Next year.
We'll get you.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Next year. We'll get you. We'll get your right in
spring training. We'll get you right in spring training. We
don't hate you. We don't hate you, Rodney. You still
got talent. Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
We're not we're just.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
A bad year. You had a bad year. You had
a bad year.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So we'll fix it. Yeah, but not now.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Give us a full give us a full off season
and spring training to get you right. But right now, no,
there is no trust whatsoever. And and the and the
problem also is there comes a level Fred and I
know this from a player and as a player, because
we all go through it. We all go through slumps.
(27:33):
We all go through times during the season where you're
you're struggling and then you find it. But there's also
a time when as a player and as a teammate,
you go, that guy ain't got it and we got
to go with somebody else. You know, it's a it's
a receiver in football that has the drops and he
just has been dropping all season long. And you know,
(27:55):
we get the last part of the season, last two games,
and he's still dropping. He's like, I can go to
him anymore. I wanted to give him a shot. I
wanted to keep going to him. I wanted to build
his company. I just I can't throw the ball to
him anymore. And it comes to a point where your
teammates don't trust you. And when it gets to that point,
(28:18):
you got to make a move. And you can't keep
trotting him out there because the teammates are going to
go look at you, go, what are we doing? You
know in a one run ball game, and they see
him come out of the pen, and the whole infield
and outfield go, really, you can't get they the Dodgers
(28:43):
are at that point with him now where I think
that the rest of the team is feeling less. Regroup
and get him right next year, because right now it
doesn't matter what the lead is. It doesn't matter. We're
up to run, we're up four runs, we're up one run,
it doesn't matter. The confidence in tennor Scott right now
(29:07):
is shot shot. And I don't care how talented you are.
If you don't play with confidence, you can't succeed.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And there have been people, and it's all through sports,
guys with less talent but with all kinds of confidence
have more success with the guys with all the talent
in the world with low confidence. So the fact that
where he is right now, you can't keep trotting him
out there because at some point you're going to lose
(29:44):
the team as well, because they're looking at you, going
why we keep putting that guy out there? Why do
we keep trotting him out there? We're up two runs
in the eighth or the ninth, Why are we doing this?
I love him, but come on, let's go win the game.
(30:08):
He doesn't have it. He does that have it This
year we can fix him, but he does not have it.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And I am assuming that the guys who are on
the team as teammates feel badly for him as he struggles.
I'm sure they do. But again, Dave Roberts has said
over and over, this is a performance based business. It's
pretty simple. A guy they call up from OKAC. If
he plays well, he sticks. If he doesn't, they send him.
(30:39):
Now why it's performance based. Now, it's different when you
sign a guy to a four year deal for like
whatever it is, seventy six million dollars or whatever they're
paying them, you're not going to send them to OKAC.
But it is performance based. It's very apparent. And the
bullpen didn't do anybody he favors last night. I mean,
(31:01):
let's be honest, the whole bullpen, really, let's be honest.
But that's the one guy that shuts it down, the
one guy that finishes it. And he can't. He just can't.
I mean, this is very different than last year. Last
(31:21):
year there were no starting pitchers and the bullpen became stars.
The bullpens saved the Dodger season last year because the
starting pitchers were hurt. It's exactly the opposite this year.
The starting pitchers are healthy, but it's the bullpen that's struggling.
(31:42):
And the problem with that the bullpen is the last
line of defense.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, that's it. I mean, how about seriously thinking about
that last night? How like the internal struggle right now
and well last night and Dave Roberts and Mark Pryor's
head about the way Otani was dealing last night, of
them thinking, God, I wish you could just go finish
(32:11):
this game. Let's just let him go finish the game.
They couldn't touch him. They could not touch O'tani. You
know what it reminded me of when I was watching that.
It reminded me of that Tampa Bay World Series when
Mookie Bett was on deck and they went and got
they went and got Blake Snell and took him out
(32:32):
of the game, and Mookie turned around to the dugout
and started smiling said, basically if you could read his lips,
even though he didn't say it, it was like, Okay,
now we got him.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
That's That's what it felt like. That's what it felt like.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
It is pretty much, but that's what it felt like
for Arizona last night was when O'tani went out of
the game and the bullpen came in, It's like, okay,
all right, now gonna go win the game now, We're
gonna go win the game.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
They could not.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Touch Otani, so you know, going forward, it's say, I
gotta believe part of Dave Roberts is like, man, I
wish I could just let him go to the ninth,
you know, because if I can get him into the ninth,
then we got a four run lead in the ninth.
Maybe they won't give up four runs. They may give
(33:27):
up two, right, but they're not gonna give up four.
Let's let's get Let's get us to the ninth with Otani.
Buddy pulled them and and rightfully so because they gotta
save him. But what do you think goes on as
they go into the postseason now? Because their starters, as
you mentioned, have been incredible, They've been great.
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is the world's strongest dentist, is he? Oh? Yeah he is.
(36:23):
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Speaker 1 (36:27):
He didn't use any tools. He just puts his hand
in your mouth and out. You don't even feel it. Okay,
tell you what. And that guy's got some instruments in
his office. I've been to his office. He's got tools
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(36:50):
plan to make the game's only six innings long? Okay,
not a bad plan? Six inning games little League, Major League.
They don't have to go to the Little League World
Series six inning games?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Is that what you want for it.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
No bullpen, just let the start. It is closing out.
But here, this is my plan, and I know it's
going to sound a bit extreme, so it's a work
in progress. But hear me out. So I was a
big proponent of Clayton Kershaw starting games. I've said that,
I'm on the record, but sometimes in the playoffs, right,
(37:25):
I said that, ye yeah, I'm not going to walk
it back. Everybody thinks I'm crazy. Now I'm not going
to walk it back, but maybe we have to try
something else. Three game series, right, so you start Snell, Yamamoto, Otani,
that's it, and the best of three to get started.
Let's say Snell goes out, goes five plus and the
(37:47):
Dodgers are in great shape. You got to go to
the bullpen. The bullpen is going to be Kershaw or
Emitshian come in and just go we need four. We
don't even want to go to the bullpen at this
point unless it's an emergency. Next game, Yamamoto goes out there,
(38:08):
does fine, whatever, they won the whole series. If not,
whoever didn't pitch the night before goes in tomorrow, and
then maybe we'll bring Alex whoever didn't pitch the night before,
So whoever didn't pitch goes the next the next night
as the relief reliever. You go, well, game three, who
get Yamamoto starts I mean uh kersha, I mean ah
(38:31):
Otani starts Game three. If you happen to go to
game three, okay, Orani starts game two. However, you want
to shake it out, whatever your plan is in the
three game series, that's what you do. Well, you know,
we got to bring guys in in a certain situations.
You're putting a starting pitcher in to finish the game.
There's no matchups. Emmachian's gonna go four plus, okay, three
(38:56):
plus whatever it is and get out of here. There's
no ninth inning. Guy comes running in from the bullpen.
He's just finishing the game. Kershaw, just finishing the game.
If they get into.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Trouble, they do something that they've never done before this
whole season. Yes, you're gonna put them in a situation
that they have not done at all the whole season long.
So Immitchian comes in in the seventh yep, and he's
never come into relief. We're just gonna throw him in
that situation and get get in there, get in there
and do it.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yep. Same for Kershaw, get in there, just do it.
We need you to do it. Do it, go be you.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
They've both been very good starting.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
We're not gonna piece me all this thing and here
comes Kirby's on the.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
They've been very good Fred starting. They've been very good.
Not coming out of the book, which is a different animal. No,
I hear you, I get it. But you know what
whole thing like, certain guys, it's any sport. There are
guys that can come off the bench in basketball. Benny Johnson,
Michael Cooper, sixth man of the Year, you know, Jamal Crawford,
(40:07):
six man of They those guys are ready to go.
They see the game develop and they see what's happening.
They analyze the game in the first quarter. Then they
bring him in in the second quarter and they just
know how to navigate the game because they watched it.
They watched it develop, they watched the starters play, and
they go, Okay, I can get this. I can get that.
I'm watching this. I got that now if I do that,
(40:28):
and they come in and they light it up. Rennie
Johnson microwave. He got the name because he was a
sixth Man of the Year, and he came in in
the second quarter and lit it up for the Pistons
because he analyzed what was happening in that first quarter.
If he starts, it's a different animal. He's not Bennie
Johnson the microwave. He's not Jamal Crawford, mister crossover that
(40:52):
comes in and goes, Okay, now I can I this
guy's gonna guard me, or this is how they're gonna play.
I got it, I got I got a formula for that.
There's an art to guys coming off the bench, and
there's an art to guys coming out.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Of the bullpen. Understand, one hundred percent agree at this point.
Really don't care. Desperate times require desperate measure. You don't
care desperate times required desperate measures. It's pretty simple. Last
year you had to have in the World Series, in
the playoffs, bullpen games. It was desperate. You had to
(41:30):
do things you had not done the whole year, and
if you did very sporadically, you were desperate.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
You had bullpen guys, bullpen guys that could come in
and moments notice games already and fires already started, and
we just you know, either kept the fire lit, shut
the fire down, kept the fire where it was. But
they were used to situations like that. You can't just
start a You just can't throw a starter who's used
(42:00):
to warming up, you know, getting his routine in for
an hour before the game, and then you know, start
the game and then first hitter of the game, lineup,
all that stuff, and all of a sudden, you're gonna
throw him in the seventh inning with hey, hey, you
got you got five minutes to warm up. You got
two minutes to warm up and get ready to go.
(42:22):
You're the second face. You're gonna face the bulk, the
heart of the lineup. Rudney, you're the second guy tonight.
You got to be ready to go. So get ready
in the fifth, get ready in the fourth, start stretching,
do what you do.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Get ready. We're gonna need you, so walk Er, Buleerate,
figure it out, get ready, get ready to go in Yeah,
because here's your alternative. Let's send Tanner Scott out there again.
Let's send three guys out there and each one gives
(42:56):
up a home run and Tanner Scott gives up the
last one and they lose. Let's try. Oh I'm sorry,
we've tried that. We've already done that plan. As a
matter of fact, we've done that plan more than once
this year. I'm telling you it's not a bad plan. Interesting,
(43:18):
you know what, Maybe I'm nuts, all right, and you
would probably agree to that. So we'll bring Bob Nightingale
USA today and ask him.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Now. I want you to present that to him.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
You know what, you can present it for me, so
you don't think I'm gonna, you know, change the way
I said it, all right, all right, when he comes down,
we'll do that.
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