September 29, 2025 • 48 mins
The Dodgers will face the Reds in the wildcard this week as the Mets completed their late season collapse. Will Tanner Scott make the wildcard roster? The Rams won a nip and tuck game against the Colts and Fred goes off on AD Mitchell over his fumble through the end zone. The Chargers lost Joe Alt and their game to the Giants
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, here we go, eat deal, jump on it
a bit, Fred Rug and Rodney Pete on this Monday. Rodney,
we're exactly where we're supposed to be. If you're a
Dodger fan, it all worked out the way it was
supposed to work out.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I did absolutely. How's that? How's that? How does that go? Okay?
One sixty two? And oh, Fred, I thought we were
supposed to run away with the division, the number one seed,
home field advantage, never lose a game, set a record
for wins, all those things. What do you mean this
is where we're supposed to be. What are you talking about? Okay?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, I never thought that. I thought only one thing.
What did I say, get to the tournament. Get to
the tournament and let's play it out. So that's the
only thing I ever thought from the very vision?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Did you say just get to the tournament? That I
didn't care about winning the division, you didn't care about
getting home field? You're okay with it. Hey, we'll just
we'll just get to the tournament and have to play
the wildcard. That's okay, We'll just do that. We'll just
play the wildcard as long as we get to the tournament.
Even if we're in the wildcard. It's okay. That's where
your thoughts were when you were saying, get to the tournament.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, my thoughts were, let's get there and let's get going.
If you got the best team, you got the best team.
Those were my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And they're there. They did it. Sure, Sure, if they
hadn't blown ten saves, it'd be in a little different situation.
But nonetheless they're there. They did it, and let the
games begin. Now, I would say, as we get ready
to meet the Reds tomorrow at the stadium, and congratulations
to Terry Francona because that was impressive. He's a culture
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changer everywhere he goes. Seriously, everywhere he'd gone and coached, managed,
they have turned it around, whether it be Cleveland, Boston,
now the Reds. He is. There's something about certain guys
that know, you know, Bruce Bochi's that way, right, that
just go into places and know how to analyze it
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and know how to turn it around. And Terry Francona
is certainly one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And keep in mind with the Wildcats tomorrow, we're giving
away tickets every hour. This hour, somebody's gonna win tickets
to go see the Dodgers and Reds at the stadium tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Night, every hour, every hour.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So as much of a roller coaster as it was
for the Dodgers, I'd like you to think about the team.
The Reds beat out the Mats. It confirms money can't
buy everything. Now, Steve Cohen, the owner of the Mets,
he signed Wan.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Soo, He signed Juan Soto for the record amount over
seven hundred and sixty million dollars. I believe in Juan Soto,
you know, after the Ottanic contract, became the highest paid
player in the league. Also paid Francisco Lindor a big contract,
remember the contract that he had with the Grom. De
Grom's no longer there. So the Mets, notoriously over the
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last five years on the Cohen spent a lot of
money and a lot of time. We say it out
here that if you know, spending that kind of money,
and the Dodgers are accused of this by people outside. Oh,
the dollars are buying a team, they're paying all this money,
they're spending more than anybody else. They should win. That's
not the case. And we've said that all season long
about the Dodgers, that you just because you spend money
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doesn't mean you're going to automatically win. You have to
still go play the game. There is so many good
players in professional sports, and yes some get paid more
than others, but on the whole as a team, as
a individual, franchise, or across the league, there are good
players across the league on every single team that could
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be superstars, or it could have years that turn into
a five hundred million and seven hundred million dollar contract.
And if you're honest about you know the Mets and
what they did. The pitching fell apart, it really did.
Because everybody wants to criticize it was a Wan Soto,
the wan So toa wan So. Wan Soto at over
forty home runs and over one hundred RBIs this year,
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and and and and scool were more runs. Uh oh,
you know he was top five and runs as well.
So yeah, I know they want to blame Soto and
blame Cohen. But it doesn't translate to wins. Money doesn't,
does not, and it never does in any sport translate
to automatic wins. Let's bring on the ambassador, ambassador, mister
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Eric Dickinson. What's what's going on? What's going on? We're
talking a little bit about you know, the Dodgers match
up with the Reds, and then we're talking about the uh,
you know, the Mets missing the missing the playoffs after
spending so much money, their owners spending so much money.
And I was just saying that just because you spend
the money doesn't necessarily mean it's guarantee you to win, right,
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because you know, you know how it is in football too.
You know, every there's team, there's a guy or guys
on every team that can play, and if they all play,
then any any team can win.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well in Rocket. And you know I always say this,
it's about the health of your team.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Also.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean you look at the Dodgers. I mean they're
starting to get there, the bullpen back together, starting to
get players back, but you know, you still lose players.
But you know, the thing is is the starters are stuffs.
Why their starters, backups are backups. You know personally say,
well man, welcome, they ain't playing. Well man, they got
some I said, he's a he's a backup.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And you can spend astronomical amounts of money and that
does not mean it's gonna turn into a winning franchise.
I mean, you have to have a formula, and sometimes
your formula works, sometimes it doesn't. But when you look
back at it, let's let's take the Dodgers historically. I mean,
their formula has worked to help them win. I mean,
whatever they've done, they've done it right. I don't I don't,
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you know, I don't go with that. That what is
called the algorithm of you know, taking the pictures out
and all. I've never agreed with that. It's funny when
I would talk to Tom and disorder about it, it
would say, hell, no, you know, old school cats. I mean,
because I mean I've seen look at these were the
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Dodgers had the game and they pulled the picture out.
He's hot, and then you put another gun and they
ride him out the park. I mean, but that's baseball.
That that's their call. But like you said earlier, because
you spend a lot of money, that's not automatically converting
to winning. You can try to buy players, and you
can do that, but you know, Rodnie, some teams and
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some players just don't match. They don't they don't they
don't sync up. And then sometimes that happens in baseball,
happens in football, I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And it's still a team game. So you say you could,
you could have three or four of the highest paid
players on in any sport, and say football, you got
four or five of the highest paid guys, you still
got six other guys on the field at any given time, right,
you know, right, and so you know so, so say
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those highest paid players are your receiver, your quarterback, you're
running back, and maybe two offensive linemen on one offense,
you still got four other offensive lineman ain't the highest paid,
and maybe their defense as it is, the highest paid.
So it just it has And then like what like
you said, you got to your starter's got to be
healthy all seasons you started healthy, then you're then you're
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in drump.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You don't have some real We're gonna have some real problems.
I mean, you really have some real, real problems. I mean,
and you know, a good example is like last year,
let's let's take I'm gonna take the Rams. I mean
we're talking I'm talking for baseball type football, but they
tak the Rams. They had a couple of offensive line when
that went down early in the season, and their offensive
line was not looking. Stafford was getting killed. The defense
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had a lot of holes, and the guys were out
and they were they were getting ran through.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Take one.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Barkley had over almost five hundred yards and two games
on them. But when they those guys came back and
see I always say, I'll tell people, you know, you
don't know those fat guys, you know them fat guys
that they have they have no name. Sometimes you know
you see uh Switzdowsky on the back of Jersey Hudson,
Bill Bill Bill Watski, But you know, you don't you
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don't know who those guys.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Don't get the glory, but they don't a job.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Them guys be doing their job. And those guys, the
guys who play.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
When you bring a backup in man, it changes everything.
Sometimes it works, but a lot of times it doesn't.
But man, you've got to have those starters in the
lineup to make a difference. I mean, that's football for sure,
and there's no different any sport. Bridney Baseball is the
same thing. No baseball.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
If you took here to think about Dodgers had and
you know, think about the way they are now. Right
to stay on the on the Dodgers part of it.
Now people are seeing what the capabilities and the strength
of the Dodgers are, which is what they did in
the off season, which is go get the starting pitching
and bringing the starting pitching. They were hurt all season
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long until the last month of the season they got healthy.
The starting pitching is the strength of this team now,
and going into the playoffs, you throw out that rotation
like they're talking about throwing out against the ram against
the Reds. Snell, Yamamoto, and Otani those are the three
starters slated to start in these games against the Rids. Now,
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no team in baseball has that kind of starting pitching
and these let me jump all jump yeah, all right, Hi, Eric,
what's what's a credit?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Back?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Credits back, credit is back.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, I don't know what happened all of a sudden.
I was going, let me go back to why the
Mets deal with Juan Soto. You guys are talking about
it was just idiotic and why the Dodgers are where
they're at. Here's why you can't pay a guy seven
hundred and sixty million dollars and expect that guy to
win for you because there's other guys on the team.
The way the Dodgers built the franchise, they're built for
sustained success. What the what the Mets did and their
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pitching was decimated. They didn't have enough pitching. They simply
didn't all right, Well, last year, the Dodgers didn't have
enough pitching, but they won because of the bullpen. So
what the Dodgers do is they build for sustained success.
What the Mets tried is the ardy moreno approach. Let's
just throw this up against the wall and see if
it sticks. Pay this guy all this money, Okay, and
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what did that get you? I got you like forty
three homers, he knocked in over one hundred runs. He
had about two sixty. But at the end of the day,
that's not enough. That's why the Mets are out. That's
why the Dodgers are in, and that's why the reds.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
By the way, and how much did the Dodgers say
that their bullpen last year that really saved them last year?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, because the Dodgers build every position for sustained success. Okay,
but how much did they spend on the bullpen their
last year's bullpen? How much did the Dodger spend on.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It last year? Yeah? Not much? Right, neither yea.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But here's the thing, Rodney because of their system. They've
got those guys, because of the way the franchise is
constructed and the way they do their business. Those guys exist.
Robuskie exists.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
They delivered, They delivered well, they delivered it, but they
weren't paid. They weren't high paid guys. And that's why
I thought that, you know, they delivered. But the thing
is what I'm saying is the Mets have those guys
as well. They brought them up at the end of
the season that were big time prospects. They didn't deliver
it trong. Everybody wanted. He's a phenom at twenty years old.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
He was hit or missed for them, right, So, and
they had that throughout the last half of the season
with their bullpen was hit or miss. But there they
were built, but they're not they're not built. My point
is they had guys coming up through their system that
they brought up that perform right, right, and that has
that That's not that they didn't prepare for it or
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they didn't you know, have a system in place that hey,
we're bringing these guys along because they were they were
high prospects that they brought up and perform wrong. Guys. Okay,
so the wrong guys that are in the bullpen for
the Dodgers, the right guys. Obviously they performed wrong, they
did they haven't performed Oh you mean this year? This year? Yeah,
but the way the Dodgers are built, they can overcome that.
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With starting you're comparing them to the Dodgers, but I
know we're dumping on the Mets, but I'm just saying, Yeah,
the Dodgers have done this for years and years and
years of being this and they've always been an organization
that built from the from the bottom up and always
had great farm systems from way back in the day,
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and that's been maintained over time. Not everything can catch
up in a hurry to the Dodgers, and where that
level is, right.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Then don't pay a guy seven hundred and sixty million
dollars until you're caught up. Yeah, that guy, that seven
hundred and sixty million dollar guy hit forty plus home runs.
I know he's open one hundred and fifteen runs on
that scored one hundred and something bases, So don't put
it on him.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You gotta get what you gotta get right, right. He can't,
he can't do it all Fridge. No, but I'm saying,
build your team and then go get the missing link.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Well, let me tell you a couple of weeks ago. Uh,
last week I told you what a guy tell me
from from the Tampa Bay Rays. He talked about the Dodgers.
I asked him about the Dodgers. And this was before
the season started. He said, the Dodgers have the best
team in baseball. He said, if they stay healthy, nobody
can beat them. I mean and and he he came
and he gave me a couple of you know, explanations why.
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He said, they have the pitching, they have the hitting.
And he said, first of all, they have the money.
He said, they have the money and they see he said,
for some reason, they seem to do it right and
bam and and that and that was it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Let's talk about the playoff roster not announced yet, but
we do know that Clayton Kershaw won't be on the roster.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
While of the wild card, they're going to keep him off,
have him ready for the next series. Let's talk about
the pitching matchup.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It was reported today it'll be Blake Snell game one. Y'a,
I'm amoto game two. If there was a Game three,
it will be Otani. If the Dodgers went it in two,
Otani will start game one of the Division series.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Rodney, do you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I do? I do?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You know, we had ned Colletti on last week he
said he would start O time me first game, just
to get it out of the way and and and
send a message. I kind of like to me. Otani
still feels like a secret weapon, you know, and if
if necessary, we're gonna we're gonna use him. So I
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like him in the position of do or die game
three that we're gonna throw Tony at you in game
three now, you know, and we're gonna let him go
and now see what you can do. But started in
game one, it could go either way or you know,
I just don't want to I don't want to lose
that because plus Blake Snell is lights out as anybody,
so throwing and say, I mean we talked about Yamamoto.
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Yamamoto doesn't get the credit that he deserves because that's
a bad man and he's been bad for about a
month and a half now. So it's great for the
Dodgers in this rotation. There's not a rotation in baseball
that can match that, not even games, not even close.
But I will say, big boy Hunter Green coming into
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down to my whole night, he gonna be amped up,
local kid, Notre Dame. He will be amped up. He's
their ace, he's their bulldog. He'll be throwing one hundred
and two hundred and five. He'll be ready to go
at Dodger Stadium, and they're gonna have to get after him.
I don't know how long he's gonna go, but they're
gonna have to get after him early to make his
pitch cown go up. But he will be amped up,
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ready to go tomorrow night. He'll know quickly. With Hunter Green,
by the way, we'll know quickly because he'll either be
right on the plate or he'll be all over the place.
That's what's gonna happen. He is going to He is
gonna come out and be on his game and the
Dodgers shut you down. Yeah, he can shut you down.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh, he can shut you down. And it's just a
question of how long can he do that before things
go awry. That's kind of the Hunter Green story, right,
because he did that when he came here last time, right,
He shut him down for my four innings and then
in one inning it kind of blew up on him
a little bit, right, also coming back tomorrow, Gavin Lux,
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Is that a nice year?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah? Yes, is that a nice year? Yeah? What do
you think about their moments? What do you think about momentum,
them coming in with the momentum into this playoffs, coming
in and play the Dodgers, Fred, and what do you
guys think about that? You're Reds?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, Okay, keep in mind, the Reds lost yesterday. Yeah,
and so did the Mets. So the Reds get in.
They knew the Mets lost before they before they lost, right,
so right they yeah, right. But I'm saying if the
Mets had won yesterday and the Reds had lost, the
Mets would be here, then the Mets would be here.
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So I think the Reds will be happy they're here.
I think they'll be excited.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think they'll be a junior version of Milwaukee, like,
oh my god, what are we doing here? This is great?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
And then I think that they will personally, I think
they'll be overwhelmed. I mean, it's great they're here, fantastic
for the fans in that city, but come on, of
everybody in the playoffs, shure the weakest team. The Dodgers
drew the weakest opponent in the first round.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No, that's good for the Dodgers. Yeah, but the problem
is you don't want to go out and loose to
the weakest team either.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
No, you don't want to give the weakest team of life.
Don't give him no hope. Now you can't get give
him hope. They gotta get after him, as I'm saying
about one hundred green. They got to get after him
early because he takes it into the sixth inning and
it's a shutout into the sixth Know who gets nervous?
Then the Dodgers start to get the Dodgers. Let me
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ask you, let me let me let me ask you this,
so does does anybody pitch nine innings anymore? Any pitcher pitch?
Not that? When's the last time that happened the whole
game for the Dodgers. The last time it happened was
Yamamoto almost came close with eight eight innings and two outs,
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and then he got taken out because they hit it
off for almost a no hitter. But that was the
closest a Dodger pitcher's got into nine innings, right, it's
been a while.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
June of last year, Gavin Stone threw a full a
full game.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
There you go, June of last year. I would bet
that it was probably less than less than ten complete
games in the in the league this year, so that'd
be interesting. Yeah, and the entire league, I bet there's
less than ten. Anybody is like where it used to
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be a badge of honor. You remember that he was
a badge of honor for a pitcher to go nine
innings and that was that was big man. That was like, yeah,
I mean I want to go nine innings. I mean
unless you're getting you know, wiped out, Like okay, I
want to get out. I want to get out of
the smile. Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
One other thing about pitching, Gave Roberts it looks like
Tanner Scott is going to be on the roster. I
don't know if that's a surprise or not. Uh, I'll
tell you he uh. I don't know when you can
use them, to be honest, but they're paying them, and
I'm sure Dave Roberts does not want to give the
impression he's giving up on him. But he made a
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point of saying, yeah that Tanner Scott should be on there.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So do you think he does he use him in
any high leverage situations like No. Eight. I think it
early on and if they need to eat, somebody to
eat some innings, if they have to, he comes in
and eats one or two. Are they behind they're winning?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I think what he does is he's the guy that
comes out for the first pitch and catches the person
throwing the first pitch, the ceremony of first pitch before
the game.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
He's the guy to catch. Wrong with you? What is
wrong with you? Your tongue? What is wrong with you?
How dare you? I'm not gonna sit here unless you
disrespect Tanner Scott like that for it. I'm not gonna
do that on a Monday. Are you kidding me? It's
a hater. I'm not a.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Let me ask you a question first, let me ask
you a question. I'll go with, Okay, all right now,
let's ask Eric. Eric will answer this, and then we
let you in the desert. Right now, okay, Eric, You're
on the sideline and they say no, you're not even
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playing anymore. You're on the Rams sideline and you're watching
the game and they're starting a rookie running back and
this is a big thing for this guy. And he
goes in hand him the ball. Second series of the game,
he fumbles, other team recovers. Okay, hey, it happens. They
get the ball back. Next series, they hand him off
the ball, he fumbles, the other team recovers. Go okay,
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you know it's listen, he's got to get adjusted. You
take him all in a while. You put him in
the third quarter, you give him the ball, he runs righty, fumbles.
You're gonna give him the ball again.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Eric, his ask comes to the bench.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You're gonna give them the ball? Right, No, I'm gonna
give him the bench, is what I'm gonna give him. Fine,
so you put a closer in who's paid the close games.
I get it.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I get what you're saying. I come on, I give
what you're saying. Bro.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You said he should go out and catch him ceremonial ball.
I give you. Like he's not playing like you want us.
I wanted to be. I wanted to be part of
the pomping circumstance. I mean, you know, when he was,
he almost like he was scared, like like you know
I need to say that, but you know, like, man,
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I'm kind of nervous here.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, you could tell all his confidence he lost his gasses.
That's what that's that's what that's what it. That's what happens.
I mean, and that happens. That happened all of us.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Fread.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I mean, like I say, I mean, I'm sure riding
you you're throwing the ball, you know, like, damn, pick
the same thing here, Fred, I mean I fumbled the
ball before, and I'm like, and then you fumbled it again.
I come closer to him, like, oh god, don't fumble
this ball.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
She's like, what's going on? That's not going on right
right right? And you can't you can't put your finger
on it because I know, you know, what is he
everybody's asking you question why he fumbled twice? H are
you fumblaball while he threw that pinterception twice and he
got asked that every single time he went out there,
almost like what is going on? And he finally, you know,
he made that comment, baseball don't like me. The baseball
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don't like me. And it is and people, you know, unfortunately,
at is where things you've done your entire life and
done them well, all of a sudden eve you for
a period of time and you can't figure out why
because you're not doing anything really differently, Nobody says he's
not a good guy. Nobody says he won't be great
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next year. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
It's not that it's not a good guy. That's that's
not a question. We're not even talking about that, because
he is a good guy. It is about his performance.
How it can go from him being the most sought
after closer in baseball in the offseason to him being
the worst in baseball this year. That doesn't happen overnight.
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This is something that's off right now. And again, it's
probably more mental than it is physical. Right.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's like it's like you're in the mind fraid you pitching.
Let's say you're pitching a no hitter. I mean, and
for the first slate five innings, and you're striking him
out left and right, striking him out pop pop pop,
I mean, everybody, can't nobody hit you. All of a sudden,
one guy comes to me to hit a home run,
You're like, okay, we get one.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Another guy comes to me to home run. You're like, okay,
what the hell you're missing another guy get another guy
gets the base, hits another guy that gets the base
hit another guy. Say you walk one guy and hit
a grand slam. Then all of a sudden, your confidence
has went from whoa to man?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
What has happened here? I mean? And that's how quick
it can happen, just like that. But if that continues
for ten games.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I know, Yep, it's been Yes, it's been. Ain't been
good for him.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
That's for you. Yeah, you can't. You can't use him
in that situation for sure. Yeah, because he hasn't proven
in real time, in the moment, in present time that
he can he can deliver on a consistent basis, and
you know you can. You can trot him out there
in the regular season because you got one hundred and
sixty two games. But in the playoffs, no, you can't
do it. You can't do it because it's do or
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die in the playoffs. So you got to go with
guys that you can trust and that are consistent for you,
right right, all right.
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wondering if there was ever a game where either one
of you wanted to leave a teammate in the city
you were playing and fly off without them.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
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Speaker 2 (25:26):
Oh yeah, welcome back to the Ford NFL Spotlight with
the Hall of Famer Ambassador Eric Dickerson, Roddy, Pete, Fred Rogan.
Did you see owner of the met Steve Cohen sent
out an apology already? Did he? Yeah? Met fans everywhere,
I owe you an apology. You did your part by
showing up and supporting the team. We didn't do our part.
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We will post We will do a post mortem and
figure out the obvious and less obvious reasons why the
team didn't perform up to and to my expectations. We
are feeling raw motions today. I know how much time
and effort you put into this team. The result was unacceptable.
Your emotions tell me how much you care and continues
to motivate the organization to do better. Thank you to
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the best fans in sports, Steve Cohen, I like you
said that. Yeah, that's not even wait either. Yeah, he
didn't sugarcoat it. He didn't make excuses, he said what
it was. And he also seems like the kind of
guy is not going to put up with it. Right.
I don't know if they have the solution or the answers, Yeah,
but I know he's not gonna put up with it.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
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Speaker 2 (26:55):
All right, let's get to the Rams. Nice win.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Ye yesterday they had a little help. Matthew Stafford threw
for three hundred yards, but I didn't he missed a
few yesterday.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
He missed a few.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
But sometimes the guys are smiling upon you and lighting
the game. Defensive back slipped to two at Well broke free,
and the Rams were able to pull out a twenty
seven to twenty win. Eric, take them anywhere you can
get them.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
You take a win. I don't care how you get it.
You take the win. It was a few plays in
that game that you know, helped them win that football
game that I guess you know, I always say these,
you know, these guys on the showboat. Was Mitchell the receiver,
you know, going into the going to the end zone.
For for sure, that was that was a great pass,
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a great catch, a great run. Gets there right there
by the one yard line, if he's gonna hold the
ball up, and it flew out of his hand and
went out of the back of the end zone.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Let mean, all right, I'm glad you brought that up.
I'm glad you brought that up, because that's what I
wanted to talk about. Uh, that could have that may
have cost him game. We don't know, by the way.
That loss may cost them a playoff spot.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
We don't know. But I know this.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
If you guys are playing in the day and you've
got some guy clowning and that happens, and you lose
the game, what.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Do you do? Eric, I'll start with you, then to Rodney.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Well, I mean he I don't gonna say it was clowning.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You know he was. She was.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
You could tell you to try to take the ball
from one hand to other, probably like to hold it over,
you know, like like like like hold it up and
it happens. That's different than clowning. You know, you get out.
You're telling about clowning. Let's say you on the field.
You know, every time you get up, you clowning, Like
like I made a tackle, I'm in attacked. But we're
getting out ass whooped up here? You man, come on,
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look you ain't we're not winning. I mean that's different.
I mean, like I said, he's playing, he's playing hard.
You know it happened. I mean, you see, guys do
way crazier things in that that's for given because you
know how hard he's playing.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
He didn't do it on purpose.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
You know, it's like, no guy, No guy goes out
there on purpose and say, you know what, I'm a
fumblest ball at the back of the end zone. That's
my plan. Or you know what, I'm gonna throw two interceptions.
Oh you know what, Hell, I'm gonna fumble the ball twice. No,
that's just that's that's part of football, fread, and you
can't be mad at him for it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Come on, that's very different. Eric.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
If you fumble or Rodney throws an interception, then this
guy who's gotten touchdown tries to hold the ball up
before he gets in and fumbles out of the end zone.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I mean, that's but it is unacceptable. But but it's
acceptable because it's it's it's like it happens. It's like
it's like a guy missing a block that a guy
is right in front of him and right in front
of him. This is the guy you block, and you
go block the other guy that you well, he's in
front of you.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You don't block him. He's in front of you, and
he sacks the quarterback and he fumbles the ball. He's like,
what the hell were you thinking?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
He's in front of you, So, I mean, I know
that that and to me, it's pretty much the same thing.
Really he wasn't I ain't gonna say it was show
voting or maybe he was show voting, but all he
was I could see him trying to he he's trying
to take the ball from one hand to the other.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And when I flipped out his which he's probably done,
he's probably done hundred times a hundred times, right, but
but but but it went at the back of the
end something that's just what he's done. And and and
you know it's it's not like like Eric said, there's
there're there are guys on the team to do it
constantly that you that will do stuff show voting or
at act stupid or do stupid to not not being
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in the right place and missed their assignments on a
regular basis, And you see it happening over and over
and over again, and then they do it in a
game and multiple games. You like, that's that's that's that's
what he does. That's that old soon So that's that
dumb dumb to keep doing them same things that he'd
be doing in practice, you get on that guy. But
if it's a guy that that has been there for
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you and it is working is working hard, you don't
want to lose him for the season by going too
hard on him for something that he, like I said,
probably has done his entire career of getting ready to
score and holding the ball up. And it happened. I
guarantee it won't happen again.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I guarantee it won't. Right right, it ain't gonna again.
Thank thank him, Thank Think about think about it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Think about a defensive player of Fred that hits the
quarterback all right, hits the quarterback late and you get it,
and we possibly the chance with chance when the games
and say we're going to thirty hour on thirty it
gives him fifteen yards. Okay, Then he does it again. Okay,
come on dog, and let's just say he does it
one more time. You're like, now that is like, this
(31:35):
is unacceptable. This he gets yelled at. Now, he gets
yelled at. Now, he's like, what the hell is wrong
with That's that's when players go out, what the hell
is wrong with you? Man? You can't be doing this.
You're killing us. That is that's unacceptable. There, Yeah, you know,
because it's happened next week or two weeks from now.
He does the same thing and then ball goes out
the end zone, then yeah, people will get all on it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But but after this one time. Yeah, but here's the thing.
I hear you guys, you play it. I didn't so obviously,
you know I don't. Roddney, you were the guy that
said you only get so many of these each season.
Each one is precious. Yeah, you don't get one hundred
and sixty two of them. You don't get eighty two
of them. You don't get any of them. You're like seventeen.
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So everyone means so much more. Every loss hurts more,
and every win means more. And you got a guy
five inches from the goal line that can't take one
more step and hold onto the ball.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
But he's not thinking the ball is gonna come out there.
I know, I know, I got that. It sounds like
Eric Gibbings. It's just like a quarterback taking a chance
on a throw at the end of the game. He's
not like interception. He's like it's a touchdown, like Baker
Baker exactly, Baker thinking he's throwing a touchdown, or at
the very league he's not gonna get intercepted, and it
got intercepted because it got tipped and it was a
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bad throw. He's gone thrown it anyway, but it got
tipped and it was intercepted. Yeah, but it's the same.
It's the same concept of yeah, he's going in the score,
but he's not. Like I said, you know what, think
about Fred, He didn't go on to score, turn around
backwards and going in back. Now, that would have been like, Okay,
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what the hell are you doing man? And falls and
bumbles the ball out of the backfield. That that would
have been a whole different animal left. It's it's like,
it's like you you don't blame the you know, think
about this. The Rams had two field goals blocked a
week ago. Okay, one you get to win the game.
It's like, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Hey, man, you got you know what, You gotta get
your own way home.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You the hell with this? You know you let you got,
you got. You cannot get on our plane. You'll get
your ass and fly home. That's what I was saying. No,
you can't do that, but leave it behind. No, And
that's the price you pay for that stupending. And then
then then there will be a player or two left
behind every game. And I say it's gonna be somebody
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every game sometime every game. You didn't evenlieven the coach
behind too, the quarterback, Uh, the fourth Why did you
go for it on that fourth? And fourth and one?
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chance to win tickets next hour. So the Rams Living
Right got a break and beat Indianapolis Chargers Vinnie said
going into the game against the Giants could be a
trap game for the Chargers. Well, I guess they were trapped.
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And Jackson Dart played quarterback for the Giants. Here's what
I found fascinating. And I don't know if this can
continue very much, But you guys played, you know, and
Rodney you played the position. He looked like he was
in college. He just took the ball and started a
run all the time, and the Chargers couldn't figure out
what to do. I think that's really what got the Chargers,
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besides the fact they didn't run the ball very much
at all. But Jackson, he just took the ball and
started running and nobody could stop him. Were you surprised
by that, either one of you?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I knew there's gonna be wrinkles. Jackson darkin run. He's
a mobile quarterback, you know. I know we often think
is the white guys are not the mobile quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
But taxis dark Steve's when I saw Steve Young, I'm like, yeah,
exactly so you No.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
He's very very athletic, and I'm sure that that they
had many wrinkles for the Charges. Chargers got a really
good defense that they were going to present to the Charges,
including having a lot of Jackson dark runs. I guarantee
you going forward, he will not have that kind of
success against other teams because now they know that that
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is a format, because they were a lot, as you mentioned,
called runs for He's not He's not Lamar Jackson now
you know, he's not Dalen Hurts or you know those
guys that are you know, basically run for a living.
He will get away with moving around and moving into
pocket and then calling some of those runs. He's not
Josh Allen, not that big either, so I doubt that
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you will see the Giants call as many runs for
him as they did against the Chargers. Chargers were just
caught completely off guard by that, especially on that first
touchdown run when he ran for about with fifteen twenty
yards for a touchdown, and then he had a couple
of more in the game. But I don't I see
that happening in that first game. But I don't see
them putting him in that kind of risk going forward
(38:18):
for the rest of the season because people be ready
for it. And that's I mean, as much as he
is mobile and he can run, again, he's not he's
not He's not Josh Allen. He's not in Lamar and
he's not gonna They're not going to create that many
more design runs for him.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, he ran about ten times for fifty four yards,
and I know it seemed like a lot, but they
were at the right times. And that's what that's what hurts.
You know, they can pick up that that third and five,
a third and six and you run for fifteen yards
like damn man, he ran for that touchdown.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
But you're right riding. You know.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
They want a quarterback to run. I mean they because
they gives them an They give him a shot at you.
I mean, and sometimes a free shot. Because you have
some quarterbacks that you know, they ran in college, they've got.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Used to it.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
This is not college. I mean, it's a whole different animal.
It's a whole different albumal and them big fat guys
can run you down, yea.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And the found that out and her he's like, man, yeah,
the aple just cruise around the end and yeah, college guys,
and you're getting in the pros. Two hundred ninety cat
pound cat is running you down sideline. The sideline.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, I think I think I'm with you, fair,
I think the Chargers. I think they were surprised. Uh
and I felt I said, I said they could beat
these Chargers. You know, the way that they had played
the charge. The Giants have played against the Cowboys in
the year the week before, I mean, they played a
they played a really good football game. I mean, and
I don't think much of the They don't have a
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great season, but they've they're really they're really competitive. And
I keep telling people, those are pros on the other
side of that football. Don't forget that these are professionals. Also,
they might be a bad team, but those are pros.
And I said, what defense, don't go most people. They
got after him a little bit. And Herbert didn't play
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a great game either.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
He didn't play great again you know, yeah again in
a week in a row, or he didn't really play
that well. But but but you got to give the
Giants some credit because they were getting after him. They
put a lot of pressure on him, a lot of
a lot of pressure. But what I tell you, what
what do I keep telling you? Fred? You don't like it?
No quarterback does Nope, Nope, they are the charges, They
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eric the charges. They got little little trap game.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Look, the Chargers are and I still think I think
they're a good football think they're little good a football team.
But think about it like this. When I came to
l A, first of all, I don't even I didn't
even heard of the Clippers. Clippers were here. The thing
with Lakers, the Charge is gonna be that team. They're
gonna be like the Angels. It's another baseball team down
(40:53):
the street, but they're the Angels. It's gonna be the
same thing. The Chargers are a nice team. They got
some eight players, but they are the charges. I mean,
no offense, but that they're a nice little team. They
should have stayed sending him.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Eric because they lost one game turns into this what
it wasn't center back to Sandy. Nothing nothing. I don't
hate on the charges at all. They not like the
cop wasn't another It's just hard to see because they
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the charges charges.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Well, one thing the Chargers did yesterday that surprised people,
I understand. I know one thing they did yesterday, and
I think it was surprising given the how their offense
is built. I believe they only ran thirteen times yep, right,
and that is very un hardball like, let's put it
like that, very unharriball like. He was asked about it
(41:57):
afterwards and they said, you always look at something you
could have done differently. Yeah, I would say, why.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Didn't they run more? That's what their offense is predicated on.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Well, I mean I think, man, how many? How many times?
How long do they have the ball? That's another thing
because time of possession is a big thing too. When
you're trying to you know, you're trying to run the football.
You know, how many times do you have the ball?
So they ran the ball? I mean, uh, well, what's
the name Dan? The run back got one hundred.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Eight yards, but yeah, like a seventy yard run as
part of it.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
You did that?
Speaker 6 (42:28):
So eric time of possession. The Giants had the ball
for thirty five minutes and twenty eight seconds to twenty
four to thirty two for the charge.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
You go.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
That's that is That's the big thing right there for it.
The time of possession is big and sometimes you don't
think about that, you don't see it. It's like time
of possession and field position is very big in football game.
If you can keep a team trapped down in their
end zone, down in their area and not get across midfield,
a lot.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
You got a good chance to win that game. And
to me, that is what the Rams did to Philly
a week ald go and they still loft, had them
trapped down there, still lost.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
Seven fifteen on third down. The Giants were so the
Chargers couldn't get them off the field on third down.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
So that's a big reason for it.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yep, they almost almost fifty on third down. Right, he
got it'd be better and that's the strength of the
Charges is their defense. And they couldn't stop them third down.
That's a that's not that's not good.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Chargers have the Commanders at home on Sunday, and uh,
the Rams have the forty nine ers on Thursday night.
It's gonna be an interesting week for the local football teams.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, yeah, two really good games. I mean forty nine
ers underfead of two right Jackson jack Los yesterday and
then Robert Sail almost got into a fight. I know,
I know, ye what was that fight about? So Lilliam
were stealing signals? Right, Kevin?
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah, so solid this week.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
He actually said it in a somewhat complimentary tone, saying
that Liam Cohen and the Jaguars have a very good system,
all legal and above board of how they decipher signals
from their opponents, and that's something that the forty nine
ers have to be on top of. And Liam Cohan
was a little sheepish when he was asked about it
on Friday. It says like, oh, well, I don't want
to address it right now. So then after the game,
like you mentioned, you know, Colan went after Solah, which
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was probably not a smart decision because Robert Slick would
break him in half.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
But anyway, so they had a little exchange of words
and Kyle Shannon said he didn't see it, and he
talked to him after the game about it. But it
was just about a little war of words about whether
or not they were stealing signals. That's what it was about.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Oh, it was a war word. They didn't physically they didn't.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Actually, No, No, I think Liam Cohen smarter than that.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Everything. Since the beginning of time, teams have been trying
to steal signals from each other. It's just it's always
been there. Oh cute, I mean always, you know, and
you see it even today. You know a quarterback will
make a gesture and you see the defense go make
a gesture. Oh we know that we know what that
is because we studied it. We know what that is.
Or there's somebody watching the defensive coach and now he
(44:52):
raises his hand or shick every edge you can get,
you get. So this whole notion of somebody stealing signals relaxed.
Please could you steal them? Did you get that? Ad? Absolutely?
If they didn't change, if they didn't change game, the game, hey,
if they didn't change the game, the game, you knew
(45:12):
what it was. Sometimes you knew if it was a
run or a pass.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
When the Rams played the uh, the Patriots in the
Super Bowl in New Orleans, they had taped their practices
because I won't forget Falk was sit. He said, man,
we would run routes and the linebackers of these damn
there waiting for us right there before we got to
the to the to the area and said we had
to go in at half and switch up everything. They
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switched up everything at halftime because they would know everything
we were doing.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Of course they what do you mean they recorded their practices?
They had they left for they left for a camera
up in the in the in the in the like
they practiced that too. That's crossing the line.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
They left up they supposed to left a camera or
something up in the one of the areas and recorded
some of the RAMS practices and you know, they saw
some you know, some of the stuff that they like
to stip formations. They like to come, you know, set
in before that's what they run for the Super Bowl, Yeah,
before that Super Bowl because Rams are a big favorite
in that game, a big favorite, and they couldn't do
nothing offensively.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I mean it was like, damn, like they know everything
they're doing, and you know that what's the what's the
NFL model ridingey, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Son.
There's cameras every game, there's there's guys from each team
has cameras on the sidelines of what the guys are
doing on the sidelines. Yeah, so they know and everybody
(46:33):
covers their mouth when they're talking and does everything like
that now because and why quarterbacks and the linebackers can
hear things in their helmet because it used to be
signals on the sideline. Now it's just verbal. Remember when
they calls, they're still calls that the defense will make
that you you you can record that, you know, to dictate. Oh,
they're playing cover three, or they're playing man and man,
(46:55):
or they're playing cover two and they give the signal
for it. Then the offense can say, oh, we know
what that is. They're playing cover too now mm hmm.
Remember the women the ball was was deflated when uh
in the game. That's BS two deflated the balls. I
deflated the ball whenever we played Green Bay. The ball
(47:16):
come out so hard. It come out so hard because
it would be blow tip. Yeah, it'd be like a
rock trying to throw it. Like, get that ball, boy,
get over here. Many take a little area out of
that ball. You ain't You ain't trying that. You ain't trying.
I put it to be slicking there. You could, you
can grip the ball. I put stick them on my hands,
(47:36):
put it on my towel so I could grip it better.
You have other players that played for that team, and
they know the calls. Hey, no, no, no, they're gonna
do this. You know they're telling you what they're gonna run.
We had was I forget what team it was. I
played for so many but that that they would we
(47:58):
were especially late in the sea. If you were in
a kind of a playoff run, they would sign guys
from the team that we were getting ready to play
and just sign them for a week or two weeks,
four weeks, for a week to let them say, Okay,
we want to know whatever the calls are, whatever they're doing,
what do they do on this play? This play, we
play them and we beat them probably and then that
(48:19):
got to be cut on Monday. Or would the guys tell, oh, yeah,
you give, we give all the team he met at
the team anyway, being happy with that team.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
For an NFL spotlight is presented by Ford. As we
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(48:52):
bad special teams.
All right, here we go, eat deal, jump on it
a bit, Fred Rug and Rodney Pete on this Monday. Rodney,
we're exactly where we're supposed to be. If you're a
Dodger fan, it all worked out the way it was
supposed to work out.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I did absolutely. How's that? How's that? How does that go? Okay?
One sixty two? And oh, Fred, I thought we were
supposed to run away with the division, the number one seed,
home field advantage, never lose a game, set a record
for wins, all those things. What do you mean this
is where we're supposed to be. What are you talking about? Okay?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, I never thought that. I thought only one thing.
What did I say, get to the tournament. Get to
the tournament and let's play it out. So that's the
only thing I ever thought from the very vision?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Did you say just get to the tournament? That I
didn't care about winning the division, you didn't care about
getting home field? You're okay with it. Hey, we'll just
we'll just get to the tournament and have to play
the wildcard. That's okay, We'll just do that. We'll just
play the wildcard as long as we get to the tournament.
Even if we're in the wildcard. It's okay. That's where
your thoughts were when you were saying, get to the tournament.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, my thoughts were, let's get there and let's get going.
If you got the best team, you got the best team.
Those were my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And they're there. They did it. Sure, Sure, if they
hadn't blown ten saves, it'd be in a little different situation.
But nonetheless they're there. They did it, and let the
games begin. Now, I would say, as we get ready
to meet the Reds tomorrow at the stadium, and congratulations
to Terry Francona because that was impressive. He's a culture
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changer everywhere he goes. Seriously, everywhere he'd gone and coached, managed,
they have turned it around, whether it be Cleveland, Boston,
now the Reds. He is. There's something about certain guys
that know, you know, Bruce Bochi's that way, right, that
just go into places and know how to analyze it
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and know how to turn it around. And Terry Francona
is certainly one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And keep in mind with the Wildcats tomorrow, we're giving
away tickets every hour. This hour, somebody's gonna win tickets
to go see the Dodgers and Reds at the stadium tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Night, every hour, every hour.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So as much of a roller coaster as it was
for the Dodgers, I'd like you to think about the team.
The Reds beat out the Mats. It confirms money can't
buy everything. Now, Steve Cohen, the owner of the Mets,
he signed Wan.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Soo, He signed Juan Soto for the record amount over
seven hundred and sixty million dollars. I believe in Juan Soto,
you know, after the Ottanic contract, became the highest paid
player in the league. Also paid Francisco Lindor a big contract,
remember the contract that he had with the Grom. De
Grom's no longer there. So the Mets, notoriously over the
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last five years on the Cohen spent a lot of
money and a lot of time. We say it out
here that if you know, spending that kind of money,
and the Dodgers are accused of this by people outside. Oh,
the dollars are buying a team, they're paying all this money,
they're spending more than anybody else. They should win. That's
not the case. And we've said that all season long
about the Dodgers, that you just because you spend money
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doesn't mean you're going to automatically win. You have to
still go play the game. There is so many good
players in professional sports, and yes some get paid more
than others, but on the whole as a team, as
a individual, franchise, or across the league, there are good
players across the league on every single team that could
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be superstars, or it could have years that turn into
a five hundred million and seven hundred million dollar contract.
And if you're honest about you know the Mets and
what they did. The pitching fell apart, it really did.
Because everybody wants to criticize it was a Wan Soto,
the wan So toa wan So. Wan Soto at over
forty home runs and over one hundred RBIs this year,
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and and and and scool were more runs. Uh oh,
you know he was top five and runs as well.
So yeah, I know they want to blame Soto and
blame Cohen. But it doesn't translate to wins. Money doesn't,
does not, and it never does in any sport translate
to automatic wins. Let's bring on the ambassador, ambassador, mister
(04:20):
Eric Dickinson. What's what's going on? What's going on? We're
talking a little bit about you know, the Dodgers match
up with the Reds, and then we're talking about the uh,
you know, the Mets missing the missing the playoffs after
spending so much money, their owners spending so much money.
And I was just saying that just because you spend
the money doesn't necessarily mean it's guarantee you to win, right,
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because you know, you know how it is in football too.
You know, every there's team, there's a guy or guys
on every team that can play, and if they all play,
then any any team can win.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well in Rocket. And you know I always say this,
it's about the health of your team.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Also.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean you look at the Dodgers. I mean they're
starting to get there, the bullpen back together, starting to
get players back, but you know, you still lose players.
But you know, the thing is is the starters are stuffs.
Why their starters, backups are backups. You know personally say,
well man, welcome, they ain't playing. Well man, they got
some I said, he's a he's a backup.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And you can spend astronomical amounts of money and that
does not mean it's gonna turn into a winning franchise.
I mean, you have to have a formula, and sometimes
your formula works, sometimes it doesn't. But when you look
back at it, let's let's take the Dodgers historically. I mean,
their formula has worked to help them win. I mean,
whatever they've done, they've done it right. I don't I don't,
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you know, I don't go with that. That what is
called the algorithm of you know, taking the pictures out
and all. I've never agreed with that. It's funny when
I would talk to Tom and disorder about it, it
would say, hell, no, you know, old school cats. I mean,
because I mean I've seen look at these were the
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Dodgers had the game and they pulled the picture out.
He's hot, and then you put another gun and they
ride him out the park. I mean, but that's baseball.
That that's their call. But like you said earlier, because
you spend a lot of money, that's not automatically converting
to winning. You can try to buy players, and you
can do that, but you know, Rodnie, some teams and
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some players just don't match. They don't they don't they
don't sync up. And then sometimes that happens in baseball,
happens in football, I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And it's still a team game. So you say you could,
you could have three or four of the highest paid
players on in any sport, and say football, you got
four or five of the highest paid guys, you still
got six other guys on the field at any given time, right,
you know, right, and so you know so, so say
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those highest paid players are your receiver, your quarterback, you're
running back, and maybe two offensive linemen on one offense,
you still got four other offensive lineman ain't the highest paid,
and maybe their defense as it is, the highest paid.
So it just it has And then like what like
you said, you got to your starter's got to be
healthy all seasons you started healthy, then you're then you're
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in drump.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You don't have some real We're gonna have some real problems.
I mean, you really have some real, real problems. I mean,
and you know, a good example is like last year,
let's let's take I'm gonna take the Rams. I mean
we're talking I'm talking for baseball type football, but they
tak the Rams. They had a couple of offensive line when
that went down early in the season, and their offensive
line was not looking. Stafford was getting killed. The defense
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had a lot of holes, and the guys were out
and they were they were getting ran through.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Take one.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Barkley had over almost five hundred yards and two games
on them. But when they those guys came back and
see I always say, I'll tell people, you know, you
don't know those fat guys, you know them fat guys
that they have they have no name. Sometimes you know
you see uh Switzdowsky on the back of Jersey Hudson,
Bill Bill Bill Watski, But you know, you don't you
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don't know who those guys.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Don't get the glory, but they don't a job.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Them guys be doing their job. And those guys, the
guys who play.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
When you bring a backup in man, it changes everything.
Sometimes it works, but a lot of times it doesn't.
But man, you've got to have those starters in the
lineup to make a difference. I mean, that's football for sure,
and there's no different any sport. Bridney Baseball is the
same thing. No baseball.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
If you took here to think about Dodgers had and
you know, think about the way they are now. Right
to stay on the on the Dodgers part of it.
Now people are seeing what the capabilities and the strength
of the Dodgers are, which is what they did in
the off season, which is go get the starting pitching
and bringing the starting pitching. They were hurt all season
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long until the last month of the season they got healthy.
The starting pitching is the strength of this team now,
and going into the playoffs, you throw out that rotation
like they're talking about throwing out against the ram against
the Reds. Snell, Yamamoto, and Otani those are the three
starters slated to start in these games against the Rids. Now,
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no team in baseball has that kind of starting pitching
and these let me jump all jump yeah, all right, Hi, Eric,
what's what's a credit?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Back?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Credits back, credit is back.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, I don't know what happened all of a sudden.
I was going, let me go back to why the
Mets deal with Juan Soto. You guys are talking about
it was just idiotic and why the Dodgers are where
they're at. Here's why you can't pay a guy seven
hundred and sixty million dollars and expect that guy to
win for you because there's other guys on the team.
The way the Dodgers built the franchise, they're built for
sustained success. What the what the Mets did and their
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pitching was decimated. They didn't have enough pitching. They simply
didn't all right, Well, last year, the Dodgers didn't have
enough pitching, but they won because of the bullpen. So
what the Dodgers do is they build for sustained success.
What the Mets tried is the ardy moreno approach. Let's
just throw this up against the wall and see if
it sticks. Pay this guy all this money, Okay, and
(10:02):
what did that get you? I got you like forty
three homers, he knocked in over one hundred runs. He
had about two sixty. But at the end of the day,
that's not enough. That's why the Mets are out. That's
why the Dodgers are in, and that's why the reds.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
By the way, and how much did the Dodgers say
that their bullpen last year that really saved them last year?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, because the Dodgers build every position for sustained success. Okay,
but how much did they spend on the bullpen their
last year's bullpen? How much did the Dodger spend on.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It last year? Yeah? Not much? Right, neither yea.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But here's the thing, Rodney because of their system. They've
got those guys, because of the way the franchise is
constructed and the way they do their business. Those guys exist.
Robuskie exists.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
They delivered, They delivered well, they delivered it, but they
weren't paid. They weren't high paid guys. And that's why
I thought that, you know, they delivered. But the thing
is what I'm saying is the Mets have those guys
as well. They brought them up at the end of
the season that were big time prospects. They didn't deliver
it trong. Everybody wanted. He's a phenom at twenty years old.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
He was hit or missed for them, right, So, and
they had that throughout the last half of the season
with their bullpen was hit or miss. But there they
were built, but they're not they're not built. My point
is they had guys coming up through their system that
they brought up that perform right, right, and that has
that That's not that they didn't prepare for it or
(11:30):
they didn't you know, have a system in place that hey,
we're bringing these guys along because they were they were
high prospects that they brought up and perform wrong. Guys. Okay,
so the wrong guys that are in the bullpen for
the Dodgers, the right guys. Obviously they performed wrong, they
did they haven't performed Oh you mean this year? This year? Yeah,
but the way the Dodgers are built, they can overcome that.
(11:54):
With starting you're comparing them to the Dodgers, but I
know we're dumping on the Mets, but I'm just saying, Yeah,
the Dodgers have done this for years and years and
years of being this and they've always been an organization
that built from the from the bottom up and always
had great farm systems from way back in the day,
(12:15):
and that's been maintained over time. Not everything can catch
up in a hurry to the Dodgers, and where that
level is, right.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Then don't pay a guy seven hundred and sixty million
dollars until you're caught up. Yeah, that guy, that seven
hundred and sixty million dollar guy hit forty plus home runs.
I know he's open one hundred and fifteen runs on
that scored one hundred and something bases, So don't put
it on him.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You gotta get what you gotta get right, right. He can't,
he can't do it all Fridge. No, but I'm saying,
build your team and then go get the missing link.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Well, let me tell you a couple of weeks ago. Uh,
last week I told you what a guy tell me
from from the Tampa Bay Rays. He talked about the Dodgers.
I asked him about the Dodgers. And this was before
the season started. He said, the Dodgers have the best
team in baseball. He said, if they stay healthy, nobody
can beat them. I mean and and he he came
and he gave me a couple of you know, explanations why.
(13:09):
He said, they have the pitching, they have the hitting.
And he said, first of all, they have the money.
He said, they have the money and they see he said,
for some reason, they seem to do it right and
bam and and that and that was it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Let's talk about the playoff roster not announced yet, but
we do know that Clayton Kershaw won't be on the roster.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
While of the wild card, they're going to keep him off,
have him ready for the next series. Let's talk about
the pitching matchup.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It was reported today it'll be Blake Snell game one. Y'a,
I'm amoto game two. If there was a Game three,
it will be Otani. If the Dodgers went it in two,
Otani will start game one of the Division series.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Rodney, do you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I do? I do?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You know, we had ned Colletti on last week he
said he would start O time me first game, just
to get it out of the way and and and
send a message. I kind of like to me. Otani
still feels like a secret weapon, you know, and if
if necessary, we're gonna we're gonna use him. So I
(14:17):
like him in the position of do or die game
three that we're gonna throw Tony at you in game
three now, you know, and we're gonna let him go
and now see what you can do. But started in
game one, it could go either way or you know,
I just don't want to I don't want to lose
that because plus Blake Snell is lights out as anybody,
so throwing and say, I mean we talked about Yamamoto.
(14:39):
Yamamoto doesn't get the credit that he deserves because that's
a bad man and he's been bad for about a
month and a half now. So it's great for the
Dodgers in this rotation. There's not a rotation in baseball
that can match that, not even games, not even close.
But I will say, big boy Hunter Green coming into
(15:00):
down to my whole night, he gonna be amped up,
local kid, Notre Dame. He will be amped up. He's
their ace, he's their bulldog. He'll be throwing one hundred
and two hundred and five. He'll be ready to go
at Dodger Stadium, and they're gonna have to get after him.
I don't know how long he's gonna go, but they're
gonna have to get after him early to make his
pitch cown go up. But he will be amped up,
(15:21):
ready to go tomorrow night. He'll know quickly. With Hunter Green,
by the way, we'll know quickly because he'll either be
right on the plate or he'll be all over the place.
That's what's gonna happen. He is going to He is
gonna come out and be on his game and the
Dodgers shut you down. Yeah, he can shut you down.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh, he can shut you down. And it's just a
question of how long can he do that before things
go awry. That's kind of the Hunter Green story, right,
because he did that when he came here last time, right,
He shut him down for my four innings and then
in one inning it kind of blew up on him
a little bit, right, also coming back tomorrow, Gavin Lux,
(16:00):
Is that a nice year?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah? Yes, is that a nice year? Yeah? What do
you think about their moments? What do you think about momentum,
them coming in with the momentum into this playoffs, coming
in and play the Dodgers, Fred, and what do you
guys think about that? You're Reds?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, Okay, keep in mind, the Reds lost yesterday. Yeah,
and so did the Mets. So the Reds get in.
They knew the Mets lost before they before they lost, right,
so right they yeah, right. But I'm saying if the
Mets had won yesterday and the Reds had lost, the
Mets would be here, then the Mets would be here.
(16:38):
So I think the Reds will be happy they're here.
I think they'll be excited.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think they'll be a junior version of Milwaukee, like,
oh my god, what are we doing here? This is great?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
And then I think that they will personally, I think
they'll be overwhelmed. I mean, it's great they're here, fantastic
for the fans in that city, but come on, of
everybody in the playoffs, shure the weakest team. The Dodgers
drew the weakest opponent in the first round.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No, that's good for the Dodgers. Yeah, but the problem
is you don't want to go out and loose to
the weakest team either.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
No, you don't want to give the weakest team of life.
Don't give him no hope. Now you can't get give
him hope. They gotta get after him, as I'm saying
about one hundred green. They got to get after him
early because he takes it into the sixth inning and
it's a shutout into the sixth Know who gets nervous?
Then the Dodgers start to get the Dodgers. Let me
(17:36):
ask you, let me let me let me ask you this,
so does does anybody pitch nine innings anymore? Any pitcher pitch?
Not that? When's the last time that happened the whole
game for the Dodgers. The last time it happened was
Yamamoto almost came close with eight eight innings and two outs,
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and then he got taken out because they hit it
off for almost a no hitter. But that was the
closest a Dodger pitcher's got into nine innings, right, it's
been a while.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
June of last year, Gavin Stone threw a full a
full game.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
There you go, June of last year. I would bet
that it was probably less than less than ten complete
games in the in the league this year, so that'd
be interesting. Yeah, and the entire league, I bet there's
less than ten. Anybody is like where it used to
(18:32):
be a badge of honor. You remember that he was
a badge of honor for a pitcher to go nine
innings and that was that was big man. That was like, yeah,
I mean I want to go nine innings. I mean
unless you're getting you know, wiped out, Like okay, I
want to get out. I want to get out of
the smile. Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
One other thing about pitching, Gave Roberts it looks like
Tanner Scott is going to be on the roster. I
don't know if that's a surprise or not. Uh, I'll
tell you he uh. I don't know when you can
use them, to be honest, but they're paying them, and
I'm sure Dave Roberts does not want to give the
impression he's giving up on him. But he made a
(19:13):
point of saying, yeah that Tanner Scott should be on there.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So do you think he does he use him in
any high leverage situations like No. Eight. I think it
early on and if they need to eat, somebody to
eat some innings, if they have to, he comes in
and eats one or two. Are they behind they're winning?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I think what he does is he's the guy that
comes out for the first pitch and catches the person
throwing the first pitch, the ceremony of first pitch before
the game.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
He's the guy to catch. Wrong with you? What is
wrong with you? Your tongue? What is wrong with you?
How dare you? I'm not gonna sit here unless you
disrespect Tanner Scott like that for it. I'm not gonna
do that on a Monday. Are you kidding me? It's
a hater. I'm not a.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Let me ask you a question first, let me ask
you a question. I'll go with, Okay, all right now,
let's ask Eric. Eric will answer this, and then we
let you in the desert. Right now, okay, Eric, You're
on the sideline and they say no, you're not even
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playing anymore. You're on the Rams sideline and you're watching
the game and they're starting a rookie running back and
this is a big thing for this guy. And he
goes in hand him the ball. Second series of the game,
he fumbles, other team recovers. Okay, hey, it happens. They
get the ball back. Next series, they hand him off
the ball, he fumbles, the other team recovers. Go okay,
(20:47):
you know it's listen, he's got to get adjusted. You
take him all in a while. You put him in
the third quarter, you give him the ball, he runs righty, fumbles.
You're gonna give him the ball again.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Eric, his ask comes to the bench.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You're gonna give them the ball? Right, No, I'm gonna
give him the bench, is what I'm gonna give him. Fine,
so you put a closer in who's paid the close games.
I get it.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I get what you're saying. I come on, I give
what you're saying. Bro.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You said he should go out and catch him ceremonial ball.
I give you. Like he's not playing like you want us.
I wanted to be. I wanted to be part of
the pomping circumstance. I mean, you know, when he was,
he almost like he was scared, like like you know
I need to say that, but you know, like, man,
(21:35):
I'm kind of nervous here.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, you could tell all his confidence he lost his gasses.
That's what that's that's what that's what it. That's what happens.
I mean, and that happens. That happened all of us.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Fread.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I mean, like I say, I mean, I'm sure riding
you you're throwing the ball, you know, like, damn, pick
the same thing here, Fred, I mean I fumbled the
ball before, and I'm like, and then you fumbled it again.
I come closer to him, like, oh god, don't fumble
this ball.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
She's like, what's going on? That's not going on right
right right? And you can't you can't put your finger
on it because I know, you know, what is he
everybody's asking you question why he fumbled twice? H are
you fumblaball while he threw that pinterception twice and he
got asked that every single time he went out there,
almost like what is going on? And he finally, you know,
he made that comment, baseball don't like me. The baseball
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don't like me. And it is and people, you know, unfortunately,
at is where things you've done your entire life and
done them well, all of a sudden eve you for
a period of time and you can't figure out why
because you're not doing anything really differently, Nobody says he's
not a good guy. Nobody says he won't be great
(22:41):
next year. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
It's not that it's not a good guy. That's that's
not a question. We're not even talking about that, because
he is a good guy. It is about his performance.
How it can go from him being the most sought
after closer in baseball in the offseason to him being
the worst in baseball this year. That doesn't happen overnight.
(23:03):
This is something that's off right now. And again, it's
probably more mental than it is physical. Right.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's like it's like you're in the mind fraid you pitching.
Let's say you're pitching a no hitter. I mean, and
for the first slate five innings, and you're striking him
out left and right, striking him out pop pop pop,
I mean, everybody, can't nobody hit you. All of a sudden,
one guy comes to me to hit a home run,
You're like, okay, we get one.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Another guy comes to me to home run. You're like, okay,
what the hell you're missing another guy get another guy
gets the base, hits another guy that gets the base
hit another guy. Say you walk one guy and hit
a grand slam. Then all of a sudden, your confidence
has went from whoa to man?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
What has happened here? I mean? And that's how quick
it can happen, just like that. But if that continues
for ten games.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I know, Yep, it's been Yes, it's been. Ain't been
good for him.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
That's for you. Yeah, you can't. You can't use him
in that situation for sure. Yeah, because he hasn't proven
in real time, in the moment, in present time that
he can he can deliver on a consistent basis, and
you know you can. You can trot him out there
in the regular season because you got one hundred and
sixty two games. But in the playoffs, no, you can't
do it. You can't do it because it's do or
(24:20):
die in the playoffs. So you got to go with
guys that you can trust and that are consistent for you,
right right, all right.
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Speaker 2 (25:26):
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the Hall of Famer Ambassador Eric Dickerson, Roddy, Pete, Fred Rogan.
Did you see owner of the met Steve Cohen sent
out an apology already? Did he? Yeah? Met fans everywhere,
I owe you an apology. You did your part by
showing up and supporting the team. We didn't do our part.
(25:50):
We will post We will do a post mortem and
figure out the obvious and less obvious reasons why the
team didn't perform up to and to my expectations. We
are feeling raw motions today. I know how much time
and effort you put into this team. The result was unacceptable.
Your emotions tell me how much you care and continues
to motivate the organization to do better. Thank you to
(26:13):
the best fans in sports, Steve Cohen, I like you
said that. Yeah, that's not even wait either. Yeah, he
didn't sugarcoat it. He didn't make excuses, he said what
it was. And he also seems like the kind of
guy is not going to put up with it. Right.
I don't know if they have the solution or the answers, Yeah,
but I know he's not gonna put up with it.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, best man of sports to Dodger fans, you can
kick that out.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
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Speaker 2 (26:55):
All right, let's get to the Rams. Nice win.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Ye yesterday they had a little help. Matthew Stafford threw
for three hundred yards, but I didn't he missed a
few yesterday.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
He missed a few.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
But sometimes the guys are smiling upon you and lighting
the game. Defensive back slipped to two at Well broke free,
and the Rams were able to pull out a twenty
seven to twenty win. Eric, take them anywhere you can
get them.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
You take a win. I don't care how you get it.
You take the win. It was a few plays in
that game that you know, helped them win that football
game that I guess you know, I always say these,
you know, these guys on the showboat. Was Mitchell the receiver,
you know, going into the going to the end zone.
For for sure, that was that was a great pass,
(27:42):
a great catch, a great run. Gets there right there
by the one yard line, if he's gonna hold the
ball up, and it flew out of his hand and
went out of the back of the end zone.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Let mean, all right, I'm glad you brought that up.
I'm glad you brought that up, because that's what I
wanted to talk about. Uh, that could have that may
have cost him game. We don't know, by the way.
That loss may cost them a playoff spot.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
We don't know. But I know this.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
If you guys are playing in the day and you've
got some guy clowning and that happens, and you lose
the game, what.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Do you do? Eric, I'll start with you, then to Rodney.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Well, I mean he I don't gonna say it was clowning.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You know he was. She was.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
You could tell you to try to take the ball
from one hand to other, probably like to hold it over,
you know, like like like like hold it up and
it happens. That's different than clowning. You know, you get out.
You're telling about clowning. Let's say you on the field.
You know, every time you get up, you clowning, Like
like I made a tackle, I'm in attacked. But we're
getting out ass whooped up here? You man, come on,
(28:46):
look you ain't we're not winning. I mean that's different.
I mean, like I said, he's playing, he's playing hard.
You know it happened. I mean, you see, guys do
way crazier things in that that's for given because you
know how hard he's playing.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
He didn't do it on purpose.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
You know, it's like, no guy, No guy goes out
there on purpose and say, you know what, I'm a
fumblest ball at the back of the end zone. That's
my plan. Or you know what, I'm gonna throw two interceptions.
Oh you know what, Hell, I'm gonna fumble the ball twice. No,
that's just that's that's part of football, fread, and you
can't be mad at him for it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Come on, that's very different. Eric.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
If you fumble or Rodney throws an interception, then this
guy who's gotten touchdown tries to hold the ball up
before he gets in and fumbles out of the end zone.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I mean, that's but it is unacceptable. But but it's
acceptable because it's it's it's like it happens. It's like
it's like a guy missing a block that a guy
is right in front of him and right in front
of him. This is the guy you block, and you
go block the other guy that you well, he's in
front of you.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You don't block him. He's in front of you, and
he sacks the quarterback and he fumbles the ball. He's like,
what the hell were you thinking?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
He's in front of you, So, I mean, I know
that that and to me, it's pretty much the same thing.
Really he wasn't I ain't gonna say it was show
voting or maybe he was show voting, but all he
was I could see him trying to he he's trying
to take the ball from one hand to the other.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And when I flipped out his which he's probably done,
he's probably done hundred times a hundred times, right, but
but but but it went at the back of the
end something that's just what he's done. And and and
you know it's it's not like like Eric said, there's
there're there are guys on the team to do it
constantly that you that will do stuff show voting or
at act stupid or do stupid to not not being
(30:31):
in the right place and missed their assignments on a
regular basis, And you see it happening over and over
and over again, and then they do it in a
game and multiple games. You like, that's that's that's that's
what he does. That's that old soon So that's that
dumb dumb to keep doing them same things that he'd
be doing in practice, you get on that guy. But
if it's a guy that that has been there for
(30:52):
you and it is working is working hard, you don't
want to lose him for the season by going too
hard on him for something that he, like I said,
probably has done his entire career of getting ready to
score and holding the ball up. And it happened. I
guarantee it won't happen again.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I guarantee it won't. Right right, it ain't gonna again.
Thank thank him, Thank Think about think about it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Think about a defensive player of Fred that hits the
quarterback all right, hits the quarterback late and you get it,
and we possibly the chance with chance when the games
and say we're going to thirty hour on thirty it
gives him fifteen yards. Okay, Then he does it again. Okay,
come on dog, and let's just say he does it
one more time. You're like, now that is like, this
(31:35):
is unacceptable. This he gets yelled at. Now, he gets
yelled at. Now, he's like, what the hell is wrong
with That's that's when players go out, what the hell
is wrong with you? Man? You can't be doing this.
You're killing us. That is that's unacceptable. There, Yeah, you know,
because it's happened next week or two weeks from now.
He does the same thing and then ball goes out
the end zone, then yeah, people will get all on it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But but after this one time. Yeah, but here's the thing.
I hear you guys, you play it. I didn't so obviously,
you know I don't. Roddney, you were the guy that
said you only get so many of these each season.
Each one is precious. Yeah, you don't get one hundred
and sixty two of them. You don't get eighty two
of them. You don't get any of them. You're like seventeen.
(32:19):
So everyone means so much more. Every loss hurts more,
and every win means more. And you got a guy
five inches from the goal line that can't take one
more step and hold onto the ball.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
But he's not thinking the ball is gonna come out there.
I know, I know, I got that. It sounds like
Eric Gibbings. It's just like a quarterback taking a chance
on a throw at the end of the game. He's
not like interception. He's like it's a touchdown, like Baker
Baker exactly, Baker thinking he's throwing a touchdown, or at
the very league he's not gonna get intercepted, and it
got intercepted because it got tipped and it was a
(32:56):
bad throw. He's gone thrown it anyway, but it got
tipped and it was intercepted. Yeah, but it's the same.
It's the same concept of yeah, he's going in the score,
but he's not. Like I said, you know what, think
about Fred, He didn't go on to score, turn around
backwards and going in back. Now, that would have been like, Okay,
(33:18):
what the hell are you doing man? And falls and
bumbles the ball out of the backfield. That that would
have been a whole different animal left. It's it's like,
it's like you you don't blame the you know, think
about this. The Rams had two field goals blocked a
week ago. Okay, one you get to win the game.
It's like, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Hey, man, you got you know what, You gotta get
your own way home.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You the hell with this? You know you let you got,
you got. You cannot get on our plane. You'll get
your ass and fly home. That's what I was saying. No,
you can't do that, but leave it behind. No, And
that's the price you pay for that stupending. And then
then then there will be a player or two left
behind every game. And I say it's gonna be somebody
(34:00):
every game sometime every game. You didn't evenlieven the coach
behind too, the quarterback, Uh, the fourth Why did you
go for it on that fourth? And fourth and one?
Coach to stay home? Rules applied. Everybody find your way back. Ford.
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chance to win tickets next hour. So the Rams Living
Right got a break and beat Indianapolis Chargers Vinnie said
going into the game against the Giants could be a
trap game for the Chargers. Well, I guess they were trapped.
(36:27):
And Jackson Dart played quarterback for the Giants. Here's what
I found fascinating. And I don't know if this can
continue very much, But you guys played, you know, and
Rodney you played the position. He looked like he was
in college. He just took the ball and started a
run all the time, and the Chargers couldn't figure out
what to do. I think that's really what got the Chargers,
(36:48):
besides the fact they didn't run the ball very much
at all. But Jackson, he just took the ball and
started running and nobody could stop him. Were you surprised
by that, either one of you?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I knew there's gonna be wrinkles. Jackson darkin run. He's
a mobile quarterback, you know. I know we often think
is the white guys are not the mobile quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
But taxis dark Steve's when I saw Steve Young, I'm like, yeah,
exactly so you No.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
He's very very athletic, and I'm sure that that they
had many wrinkles for the Charges. Chargers got a really
good defense that they were going to present to the Charges,
including having a lot of Jackson dark runs. I guarantee
you going forward, he will not have that kind of
success against other teams because now they know that that
(37:34):
is a format, because they were a lot, as you mentioned,
called runs for He's not He's not Lamar Jackson now
you know, he's not Dalen Hurts or you know those
guys that are you know, basically run for a living.
He will get away with moving around and moving into
pocket and then calling some of those runs. He's not
Josh Allen, not that big either, so I doubt that
(37:55):
you will see the Giants call as many runs for
him as they did against the Chargers. Chargers were just
caught completely off guard by that, especially on that first
touchdown run when he ran for about with fifteen twenty
yards for a touchdown, and then he had a couple
of more in the game. But I don't I see
that happening in that first game. But I don't see
them putting him in that kind of risk going forward
(38:18):
for the rest of the season because people be ready
for it. And that's I mean, as much as he
is mobile and he can run, again, he's not he's
not He's not Josh Allen. He's not in Lamar and
he's not gonna They're not going to create that many
more design runs for him.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, he ran about ten times for fifty four yards,
and I know it seemed like a lot, but they
were at the right times. And that's what that's what hurts.
You know, they can pick up that that third and five,
a third and six and you run for fifteen yards
like damn man, he ran for that touchdown.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
But you're right riding. You know.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
They want a quarterback to run. I mean they because
they gives them an They give him a shot at you.
I mean, and sometimes a free shot. Because you have
some quarterbacks that you know, they ran in college, they've got.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Used to it.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
This is not college. I mean, it's a whole different animal.
It's a whole different albumal and them big fat guys
can run you down, yea.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And the found that out and her he's like, man, yeah,
the aple just cruise around the end and yeah, college guys,
and you're getting in the pros. Two hundred ninety cat
pound cat is running you down sideline. The sideline.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, I think I think I'm with you, fair,
I think the Chargers. I think they were surprised. Uh
and I felt I said, I said they could beat
these Chargers. You know, the way that they had played
the charge. The Giants have played against the Cowboys in
the year the week before, I mean, they played a
they played a really good football game. I mean, and
I don't think much of the They don't have a
(39:42):
great season, but they've they're really they're really competitive. And
I keep telling people, those are pros on the other
side of that football. Don't forget that these are professionals. Also,
they might be a bad team, but those are pros.
And I said, what defense, don't go most people. They
got after him a little bit. And Herbert didn't play
(40:02):
a great game either.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
He didn't play great again you know, yeah again in
a week in a row, or he didn't really play
that well. But but but you got to give the
Giants some credit because they were getting after him. They
put a lot of pressure on him, a lot of
a lot of pressure. But what I tell you, what
what do I keep telling you? Fred? You don't like it?
No quarterback does Nope, Nope, they are the charges, They
(40:27):
eric the charges. They got little little trap game.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Look, the Chargers are and I still think I think
they're a good football think they're little good a football team.
But think about it like this. When I came to
l A, first of all, I don't even I didn't
even heard of the Clippers. Clippers were here. The thing
with Lakers, the Charge is gonna be that team. They're
gonna be like the Angels. It's another baseball team down
(40:53):
the street, but they're the Angels. It's gonna be the
same thing. The Chargers are a nice team. They got
some eight players, but they are the charges. I mean,
no offense, but that they're a nice little team. They
should have stayed sending him.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Eric because they lost one game turns into this what
it wasn't center back to Sandy. Nothing nothing. I don't
hate on the charges at all. They not like the
cop wasn't another It's just hard to see because they
(41:30):
the charges charges.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Well, one thing the Chargers did yesterday that surprised people,
I understand. I know one thing they did yesterday, and
I think it was surprising given the how their offense
is built. I believe they only ran thirteen times yep, right,
and that is very un hardball like, let's put it
like that, very unharriball like. He was asked about it
(41:57):
afterwards and they said, you always look at something you
could have done differently. Yeah, I would say, why.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Didn't they run more? That's what their offense is predicated on.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Well, I mean I think, man, how many? How many times?
How long do they have the ball? That's another thing
because time of possession is a big thing too. When
you're trying to you know, you're trying to run the football.
You know, how many times do you have the ball?
So they ran the ball? I mean, uh, well, what's
the name Dan? The run back got one hundred.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Eight yards, but yeah, like a seventy yard run as
part of it.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
You did that?
Speaker 6 (42:28):
So eric time of possession. The Giants had the ball
for thirty five minutes and twenty eight seconds to twenty
four to thirty two for the charge.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
You go.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
That's that is That's the big thing right there for it.
The time of possession is big and sometimes you don't
think about that, you don't see it. It's like time
of possession and field position is very big in football game.
If you can keep a team trapped down in their
end zone, down in their area and not get across midfield,
a lot.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
You got a good chance to win that game. And
to me, that is what the Rams did to Philly
a week ald go and they still loft, had them
trapped down there, still lost.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
Seven fifteen on third down. The Giants were so the
Chargers couldn't get them off the field on third down.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
So that's a big reason for it.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yep, they almost almost fifty on third down. Right, he
got it'd be better and that's the strength of the
Charges is their defense. And they couldn't stop them third down.
That's a that's not that's not good.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Chargers have the Commanders at home on Sunday, and uh,
the Rams have the forty nine ers on Thursday night.
It's gonna be an interesting week for the local football teams.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, yeah, two really good games. I mean forty nine
ers underfead of two right Jackson jack Los yesterday and
then Robert Sail almost got into a fight. I know,
I know, ye what was that fight about? So Lilliam
were stealing signals? Right, Kevin?
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah, so solid this week.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
He actually said it in a somewhat complimentary tone, saying
that Liam Cohen and the Jaguars have a very good system,
all legal and above board of how they decipher signals
from their opponents, and that's something that the forty nine
ers have to be on top of. And Liam Cohan
was a little sheepish when he was asked about it
on Friday. It says like, oh, well, I don't want
to address it right now. So then after the game,
like you mentioned, you know, Colan went after Solah, which
(44:10):
was probably not a smart decision because Robert Slick would
break him in half.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
But anyway, so they had a little exchange of words
and Kyle Shannon said he didn't see it, and he
talked to him after the game about it. But it
was just about a little war of words about whether
or not they were stealing signals. That's what it was about.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Oh, it was a war word. They didn't physically they didn't.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Actually, No, No, I think Liam Cohen smarter than that.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Everything. Since the beginning of time, teams have been trying
to steal signals from each other. It's just it's always
been there. Oh cute, I mean always, you know, and
you see it even today. You know a quarterback will
make a gesture and you see the defense go make
a gesture. Oh we know that we know what that
is because we studied it. We know what that is.
Or there's somebody watching the defensive coach and now he
(44:52):
raises his hand or shick every edge you can get,
you get. So this whole notion of somebody stealing signals relaxed.
Please could you steal them? Did you get that? Ad? Absolutely?
If they didn't change, if they didn't change game, the game, hey,
if they didn't change the game, the game, you knew
(45:12):
what it was. Sometimes you knew if it was a
run or a pass.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
When the Rams played the uh, the Patriots in the
Super Bowl in New Orleans, they had taped their practices
because I won't forget Falk was sit. He said, man,
we would run routes and the linebackers of these damn
there waiting for us right there before we got to
the to the to the area and said we had
to go in at half and switch up everything. They
(45:37):
switched up everything at halftime because they would know everything
we were doing.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Of course they what do you mean they recorded their practices?
They had they left for they left for a camera
up in the in the in the in the like
they practiced that too. That's crossing the line.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
They left up they supposed to left a camera or
something up in the one of the areas and recorded
some of the RAMS practices and you know, they saw
some you know, some of the stuff that they like
to stip formations. They like to come, you know, set
in before that's what they run for the Super Bowl, Yeah,
before that Super Bowl because Rams are a big favorite
in that game, a big favorite, and they couldn't do
nothing offensively.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I mean it was like, damn, like they know everything
they're doing, and you know that what's the what's the
NFL model ridingey, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Son.
There's cameras every game, there's there's guys from each team
has cameras on the sidelines of what the guys are
doing on the sidelines. Yeah, so they know and everybody
(46:33):
covers their mouth when they're talking and does everything like
that now because and why quarterbacks and the linebackers can
hear things in their helmet because it used to be
signals on the sideline. Now it's just verbal. Remember when
they calls, they're still calls that the defense will make
that you you you can record that, you know, to dictate. Oh,
they're playing cover three, or they're playing man and man,
(46:55):
or they're playing cover two and they give the signal
for it. Then the offense can say, oh, we know
what that is. They're playing cover too now mm hmm.
Remember the women the ball was was deflated when uh
in the game. That's BS two deflated the balls. I
deflated the ball whenever we played Green Bay. The ball
(47:16):
come out so hard. It come out so hard because
it would be blow tip. Yeah, it'd be like a
rock trying to throw it. Like, get that ball, boy,
get over here. Many take a little area out of
that ball. You ain't You ain't trying that. You ain't trying.
I put it to be slicking there. You could, you
can grip the ball. I put stick them on my hands,
(47:36):
put it on my towel so I could grip it better.
You have other players that played for that team, and
they know the calls. Hey, no, no, no, they're gonna
do this. You know they're telling you what they're gonna run.
We had was I forget what team it was. I
played for so many but that that they would we
(47:58):
were especially late in the sea. If you were in
a kind of a playoff run, they would sign guys
from the team that we were getting ready to play
and just sign them for a week or two weeks,
four weeks, for a week to let them say, Okay,
we want to know whatever the calls are, whatever they're doing,
what do they do on this play? This play, we
play them and we beat them probably and then that
(48:19):
got to be cut on Monday. Or would the guys tell, oh, yeah,
you give, we give all the team he met at
the team anyway, being happy with that team.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
For an NFL spotlight is presented by Ford. As we
continue on, we have another pair of tickets for the
game tomorrow Dodgers Reds game one wild Card. Somebody's getting
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(48:52):
bad special teams.
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.