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September 4, 2025 46 mins
The Dodgers dropped yet another game to a bad team after being shuout by the Pirates 3-0. The guys talk about what (if anything) Dave Roberts can do to get the team playing with an edge and with some confidence again. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, hello from Bjay's Restaurant and Brue House and
urbye Fred Rugg and Rodney Pete a.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Five seven of the La Sports Yeah, Fred, we made it.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
We are we made it quite to drive down here
this morning a little bit. Yeah, and you know, since
they don't let us out very often, we feel very
honored to be here. We are the ones that are
hidden away in the dungeon. We don't get out, we escape.
So it's great to be here with you today. Nice
crowd as we begin this day and the kick off
of NFL football.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Love it, We love it.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
We love coming down even though it was a little
hectic getting down here from up in LA. But yeah,
we always love coming to BJ A nice crowd out here.
It's uh, it's exciting football starts tonight, yep. Absolutely, So
maybe that's the exciting part we can talk about later.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
But we got to start with the bad part now.
We got to start with that now.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
By the way, if you come down here today, so
you're here right now, so you're already in a pretty
good position. But if you come down, and you should,
and by the ways, the afternoon goes on and we
get closer to the kick of the NFL season. This
place is gonna be jam packed, and those of you
who have been here since noon, you'll be just trashed.
You know that as well as I do. You don't
even know who's playing when they kick off at five

(01:09):
to twenty. We are giving away a pair of tickets
to see the Chargers and Broncos between now and three o'clock.
Got to be here to win. We are giving a
pair of tickets away to see the Dodgers. Got to
be here to win. We are giving away Bjay's gift cards.
Gotta be here to win. And another special prize we're

(01:32):
given away. Oh that we'll talk about a little bit later.
Oh all right, So we're gonna do that scial special
and we're going to have a live game today so
somebody can win.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
We're bringing back a game. Oh we're gonna play Know your.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Favorite, the old favorite, Know your Squad, gonna play Know
your Squad today and give somebody a chance to way.
Uh all right, So uh, this gentleman here, he's got
the in and out shirt, I believe, but he's got
the La hat, the La Dodger hat. And there's some
question now about if they're gonna be able to play
to day in Pittsburgh, concerned about the rain. We're hoping
they get the game in and we will keep you

(02:06):
a prize throughout the afternoon. But given what happened last
night in Pittsburgh, you really have to start scratching your head.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I think we're getting a critical mass.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
The only reason the Dodgers are still in first place
is because the Padres now are as bad as the Dodgers.
That's the only reason the Dodgers remain in first place.
And it's worrisome now. Dave Roberts has no idea how
to fix this.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
None.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
He doesn't know. He keeps talking about we need to
put people in that we trust. I said it yesterday,
you kind of disagreed. At this point in the season.
When you're coming off a World Series title, you trust
your guys, You trust your guys, and for him to
be saying it and last night again, I think they

(02:52):
had five pits in the game.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Otani had two. How does that work? How does that work?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I think since the fourth of you why they're twenty
five and twenty nine. That makes them not only below
five hundred, but the third worst team in the National
League since July.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Rodney how do they get out of this? I'm not
even worried for it.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Fred, you said it all along. You've always said, we
don't I don't care about the regular season.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I don't care if they win one hundred games. They're
on pace to win what ninety this year?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I think it is so if you said that in
the past, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
When they've won one hundred and twelve games, and they've
won over one hundred games and a couple of times
got knocked out you were. See, that's why it doesn't
matter what you do in the regular season. Correct, Now
you've changed your team. No, No, it's still the regular season. Yeah,
but it's September, right, it's September, so it's not October yet, correct,
there's still time to get hot. Yes they don't look good,

(03:59):
and yes they're some concerns, but you said, who do
you trust? And you threw it out there. You can't
bring Tanner's God in, you can't trust him. And then
the next night Benda has a bad day. You know,
em it seeing struggles a little bit.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
So who are you going to trot out there now? Now?
And that's if you don't I mean it is what
you have right now.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
There's nobody else coming in the door, so you got
to trout the guys that you have out there and
hopefully they can gain that trust again. See, the regular
season really, in my mind, doesn't mean a lot because
a just get to the playoffs. And more importantly, if
you're a Dodger fan, you have to consider this. I
know you want to hold off the Podres, granted, you
got to do that, but the other side of it
is you have to catch the Phillies. Even if you

(04:46):
hold off the Podres, but you don't catch the Phillies.
Now you're in the dreaded best of three and that's
the one place you don't want to be. So you're
you're actually trying to do two different things here. Even
if the Padres lose and you get beat, you go,
we're still ahead. No, but you have to catch the Phillies.
That's why you have to win now. And my point

(05:08):
is this, just get there.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Let me ask them. Yeah, that best of three, isn't
it at the uh record? Yeah? All three games? Yeah,
if all three games it would be at Dodger Stadium,
right one likely?

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, you know, and if they didn't hit in the
first two they're done. Yeah, so you don't want to
be in the best of three. And when you talk
about the regular season, the only thing that matters is
getting to the playoffs, hopefully grabbing that buy in the
first round. But what I'm seeing is just kind of
a malaise, just they can't shake it.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
They aren't consistent.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
And you're right, they only need to be consistent when
we start the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
That's when they need to be consistent.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
But wouldn't you want to ramp up to that a
little bit, like kinda get going in that direction a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
No, you do.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
You want to There's no question you want to go
into the playoffs with a lot of momentum.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
You want to go into the playoffs with consistency.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
You want to be playing your best baseball as you
hit October.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Unfortunately, that's not always the case.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
We've seen it over the years where different teams where
the Dodgers has gone on runs in July and August
and then slumped off in September, and teams like San
Diego and Arizona got hot in late September and went
on and knocked the Dodgers out.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
So we've seen that.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
But the trend around baseball right now, Fred is exactly
what the Dodgers are going through. You think about the Mets,
the Mets are going through the same thing. They started
off hot, and now the Mets are up and down
and can't win a game. The Yankees went through the
same thing. They were killing that division and now you
know they're they're arguing with each other.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
So it's been a trend.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Even Milwaukee start off season dismal, then they got it.
They're really the only consistent team in the National League
that has been doing it from almost.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Start to finish. And I think they'll get knocked out
in the playoffs. You do. I think they're the team
they'll get.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Knocked out because given the way they played all year long,
they've played well over their skis the entire season. It
has been magical for them. At one point or another,
everything evens out, and I think given what they did
during the regular season, they get to the playoffs, I
think that's it. I think they oh, you know, it's

(07:18):
like that shock. They're good and they'll even be better
next year if they play like this. But I do
I think they'll get knocked out in the playoffs. Yeah,
I mean, I could see that happens. There's something to experience,
been there before. And also, you know, when you have
a run like they've had basically since June, where they've
played been the best team in baseball, you start to

(07:42):
put so much pressure. Now the fans in Milwaukee are
expecting a World Series now, and so they get into
a series, they get down to games, now all the
pressure even more pressure is on them to win it
because the expectations, based off the season they had is
to go win it all. So they will be the
team with the most pressure on them going into the playoffs. See,

(08:03):
here's something that's going to work against them in the playoffs. Uh.
And it's just a personal note. I don't like their stadium.
I don't like you and David bass Well, David Bassie
had a real reason, you know, he was almost killed there.
But I you know, we travel around and go to
stadiums as fans, and some of it's in the sun
and some of it's in the shade, and I just

(08:27):
don't like the feel of that place. I think that's
another reason they'll get beat in the playoffs. Their stadium stadium.
Oh yeah, it's like why the Blue Jays won't win
the World Series. Their uniforms, no team where the farms
like that about? Oh they look terrible. They're a little
stenciled letters and weird font they look bad. They can't win.
It's the same logo they've had for forever. How many

(08:48):
have they won? They won a couple of World Series recently. Oh,
now you're gonna go recente bias. Absolutely, I have no memory,
so that's why I have to I can't remember yesterday.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
When Joe Carter hit the game winning Game seven on run.
You know what? That was sweep? That was sweep. That
was sweep. Here's the moment.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, here's something Dave Roberts said, and he was talking
about Tayo Hernandez. I want to see that edge, that fight,
that fire. I want to see that edge, that fight,
that fire. Now, he was talking about Tayo Hernandez, who's
really had a unfortunate year. He got hurt early. He's
never been right, some defensive miscues. I think because he

(09:28):
can't run. To be honest with you, you think he's
still hurt. Yeah, oh, you you played. You know, are
you ever healthy once you're hurt? No, not until the
season's over with, right. You never get better, but you
don't get healthy, right, So yeah, I still think that
he's a little banged up. Yeah, and you would understand that.
But that line, and I think it applies to the
whole team, Rodney. I want to see that edge, that fight,

(09:52):
that fire he talked about Hernandez. I think you could
apply that to the whole team. How do you find that?

Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
And you know, like anything in sports, there are a
lot of things that are contagious.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Winning is contagious. Losing is contagious.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Good play, good hustle, good attitude by your teammates, it's contagious.
It's gonna take each and every one of those guys
on that team to pick each other up. You know,
David Vasse said something the other day that they should
not wait for Tommy Edmonds to come back.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
They need to just go.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Ahead and move ta Oscar Hernandez to left field and
find out who can play right field. Maybe Pia has
moved to right field or Paustas in center, and they
put somebody else in right field. But the Conford Ol
thing is over, and don't wait for Tommy Edmonds. And
maybe that's something to Maybe there's too much pressure on

(10:51):
tail playing in right field as well being that he
is still not I don't even think he's close to
eighty percent, you know, and he can't really run, which
is affecting him at the plate. But when a manager
or coach says I want to see that fight, I
want to see that fire, that's not a good sign.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's not a good.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Statement to make when you're in the midst of a
playoff run, trying to trying to win another World Series,
because you expect that from each and every player. Exactly,
it shouldn't it shouldn't have to be a motivation from
the coach or the manager.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Every player should have that.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah is you would say the manager or the coach,
these are pros. They will put you in the best
possible position to win. You have to win. There's no
new Rockney speech here. Everybody knows what they're doing. Your adults,
your grown men, get paid a lot of money. I
don't need to give you a rahra speech. You gotta

(11:48):
go out and perform, that's why you get paid. That
is a problem. That's a major problem. And again Michael
Confordo is confounding. Yeah, no one can say they weren't patient.
No one could make that statement, Well, you just didn't
give the guy enough time. They've given him a ton

(12:10):
of time, and even in the moments where there might
be a flash, a flash, right, Oh, okay, he's all right.
He reverts right back to where he was. Maybe if
we had Dave Roberts sitting here, because he would tell
the truth, he would simply say.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Who else am I going to run out there? Your point?
What am I going to do? Who's going out there?
Alex call?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Okay, he can play, he can play, But we got
Alex calling Kim. Who do you pick before we get
hut and back pick somebody. I'm what I'm doing going
down this stretch right now, given what I've seen for
the last month. Yeah, I'm moving Pahz to right field.
I'm putting Kim in centerfield.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
And let's just go for it. Let's go for it.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Let him play center field, let him get get out there,
get acclimated, get him in the game. He is a
weapon offensively because he can run right, get him on base,
get him going again.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
You're going to need a.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Guy like that in the playoffs, So why not just
get him out there and get him reps playing center field?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I would do that today.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Well, and the thing about it is this, you know, well,
maybe he's a rookie. He was hot when he came up,
he hit. Yeah, but then what happens is they go
will tape on you, they adjust to you. You usually
struggle and then you try to adjust to them. And
that's the game, right. Cody Bellinger when he was here,
came out ball of fire, great year next year, not

(13:33):
so much why they adjusted to him. Then it was
up to him to adjust back and he was okay,
not great, won a fi big league player, but not
like he was when he burst onto the scene. But
correct me if I'm wrong, Fred, that third year he
did win the NL MVP. Yeah, okay, so what what
the hell you talking about? Then he got hurt any matter,

(13:58):
He had forty eight home runs in forty seven went
home runs in that third year, you know, even win
the MVP. After that rookie year burst on the scene
and then a mediocre second year.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah he did win the MVP. Even a blind scirrel
finds an a corner once in a while.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
That happens. But with Kim you might say, well, we're
concerned about his hitting. You might say, I don't know,
are you concerned about Conforto's hitting, And that's the answer.
Come on, that's what are we doing. That's you lose nothing.
You actually gain better defense. You gain better defense because
you can move to Oscar to left, Paz can hold

(14:34):
his own and right, and you've got a better defense
out in the outfield than you have right now. So
at the very least defensively, you're going to be better. Right,
and let the kid play. And to your point about
the book, they may have had a book on im.
He came up, he did hit, well, they got a book.
He got hurt, so they forgot about him. Now it's

(14:55):
a start over again. It's a do over for Kim.
Is that what it is?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, I don't think that's a bad idea at all.
Just let him play. What what do you expect to
get from Conforta at this point? What magic is going
to appear? What's going to happen? You've seen it, you've
seen everything you're gonna see. We're in September now, as
my old coach say used to say, it's a it's

(15:21):
nut cutting time for it. There it is, yes, So
you got to go with the guys you think are
gonna be there. In October, and I would play Kim
as much as I could play him. Right now, how
do you think Confordo feels? Seriously, he feels bad. You know,
you can't the pressure on him coming here and the
excitement of him coming to the Dodgers and be a

(15:41):
part of this organization. You know what, around the league,
everybody wants to be a Dodger. It's best organization in sports.
Everybody wants to come here. So when you come here,
there's an expectation that you're gonna perform. And I'm sure
he had the same thing and it didn't go his way.
So I guarantee you it is my We talk about
it and how bad it is. It is killing him more,

(16:04):
and it's hurting him more because he is doing it
for the Dodgers. He's not doing it for the Cleveland
you know guardians right right, He's not doing it for
the Seattle Mariners. He's part of the Dodgers. It is
on full display on a regular basis. So yeah, he
feels bad. Absolutely. I wonder overall though, I mean, he's

(16:25):
a professional athlete, He's made a good amount of money.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
He will not be back with the Dodgers next year.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
For two reasons, First because I wouldn't sign him again,
and second he only signed a one year deal, so
he will be available to go anywhere. I wonder what
that does to your confidence, going through something like this
in a.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Year where you should perform.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
In a place where everybody does, and then cashing gigantically, Well,
you know, everybody's different, and we've seen it all throughout sports,
where you have a bad situation, you're in a bad climate,
you're in a bad whatever, on a bad team, and
you have a bad year and guys, some guys will
that will linger and they will go in the tank

(17:07):
and they never recover from it, and other guys take
it as okay, a change of scenery is gonna be
good for me. Maybe this is the difference that I need.
Maybe there was too much pressure me playing for the Dodgers.
Maybe if I go somewhere else then that pressure is
not as great and I can resurrect my career. But
we've seen both sides of it, so it just remains
to be seen if he can resurrect it or will

(17:29):
he go in the tank and say that's it. I
can't recover from this season. But I'd like to think
that most guys, you know, find the situation that suits
them that they can recover. On the topic of recovery,
Will Smith last night, everybody's heart jumped into their throat
when he got hit in the hand. Yeah, and you
think me or so many Dodger players have been hitting

(17:51):
the hand.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah this season. It's not just you. It's not just crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
From Mookie to Tani to Will Smith to Freddie. Yeah,
that seems like everybody in lineups got hit in the
head at some point. Exactly. Seriously, Yeah, if they have been.
The good news, x rays are negative, So that's the
good news. The other side of that is just because
x rays were negative, his hand still hurts. Yeah, he's

(18:19):
not going to jump in there and start playing. And
they've called up another catcher to put on the roster
just in case something happens. Yeah, Austin Barnes. Austin Barnes.
Austin Barnes would be available. Boy, what would we pay
to have Austin Barnes right now? Barnesy, Bring him back,

(18:40):
Bring him back. He was a good receiver. Oh, he's
a great defensive catcher. People loved him, the pitchers loved him,
the pictures loved him. The only problem with Austin Barnes
he was on the show with was a Hollywood Park
great guy. By the way, he understands how to call
the game. He understands how to work with the pitchers,
two negatives that ultimately cost him. First, he couldn't yet,
but you go, that's okay because he plays great defense.

(19:02):
The other side of it, he couldn't throw. That's when
it was over, when he had lost the ability to
gun guys out at second. He actually should have taken
the approach I did when I was catcher at West
Phoenix High School.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Now I had a very.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Unique Okay, I had a unique approach to playing catcher.
And if he had tried this, I'm telling you, he
still maybe on the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
So, oh my god, here we go. Tried what Fred? Okay,
the deal is this.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I was a spectacular defensive catcher because I played goaliean hockey,
so nothing got by me. Okay, I mean, I'm telling
you I got everything.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
You were your.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Generation's happy Gilmore. Right, I was a hockey player that
played another sport, right, Okay, I caught and I did.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
One problem though, I don't know why I could hit two.
This probably derailed my baseball career. I couldn't throw. I mean,
I was the kind of catcher where here comes the pitch,
foul tip, I see the runner go, I receive the
ball right and I can gun the guy down.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Correct. I would just drop the ball because I couldn't throw.
It was awful.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
So when I start dropped the ball intentionally, Oh yeah, yeah,
see he could have tried that too. But what I
went with, And this is just for you kids listening
that may want to catch.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Kids listening don't listen, Yeah, well they should listen to this.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
If you want to catch and you don't have a
rocket arm, develop this technique. Use the pitcher as the
relay man. I would end up and rifle the ball
right back at the pitcher he turned and throw to
second base. How many people did you get out by
doing that fake? A lot more than when I threw
it myself. I promise you that instead of being an

(20:55):
zero for ten, you were one for ten. It couldn't
have been very high. It's interesting approach that a lot
of people try it. I would just see no one
tries it. Well, okay, and if more did, what would
baseball be? How different would it be? Would Austin Barnes
still be catching for the Dodgers. Son, We're gonna find
you a new position, That's what it's gonna be. Well,

(21:16):
sadly they did find Austin Barn's a new position. Yes,
they did, out of the organization. Uh okay, we are
giving stuff away. Dodger tickets. Anybody want Dodger tickets today?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Who wants them? Who wants them? Right?

Speaker 1 (21:29):
We're also gonna give away tickets to the Chargers and
Broncos game.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Anybody want those? Okay, we're gonna give those away.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
We have other things we're gonna give away throughout the
three hours at BJ's Restaurant and Brewe House in Irvine.
We invite everybody to come down kick off of the
NFL season and uh oh, Ned Colleti, you'll be on
the show at one o'clock. Our good friend Ned Colletti,
the man in the big chair. So come on down
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(21:58):
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Speaker 1 (22:25):
Oh yes, oh yes, we are here at few days
in Irvine.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's a pat house. Yeah, it's picking up, Yes it is, Yes,
it is picking at us. Friend, So listen.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
We were talking in a break about the Dodgers and
their struggles and what's going on, and I was feeling like,
what's the difference, what is it from last year this year?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
What is going on?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
It seems it's pretty much the same lineup with guys
you know, in and out a little bit months. He's
been down and hurt and hopefully he gets back soon.
Tommy Edmonds has been down. But to me, last year,
it was the top three, Mookie, Freddie and o'tani. We're
gonna get there. They're gonna do their thing right. And
but it was the others. It was it was Mounsie,

(23:11):
it was Tommy Edmund, it was key K. It was
the others that got the team going. And a lot
of times when you're on a team you kind of
expected out of the superstars, but when those other guys
have big hits and big home runs and crucial times,
it just gets everybody fired up. Everybody fired up, and
it and and they don't have that this year. Maybe

(23:32):
it's because of the injuries and inconsistenty of guys playing,
but it's not the same fire from the from the
fifth to the ninth hitter right in that lineup, and
and and that's been a problem. And also too, I
think the teams are looking at the Dodgers, especially with
Otani leading off going it's like it's like Michael Jordan
back in the day, right, It's like, hey, Michael Jordan's

(23:55):
gonna get his forty to fifty, but.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
We can't let anybody else beat us.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Otani's gonna get his two hits and maybe a home run,
but we can't let anybody else beat us. And that's
the way teams are playing because he's getting his Like
he said, he had two hits yesterday and the Dodgers
had three. Yeah, So it is uh is baffling, But
I think they got it once they do get everybody
back healthy, which they do, especially Munsey is a big,
big part of this. It is the It is the others.

(24:23):
It is the key Kays. It is Paz keeping keeping
going what he's got going right now, and certainly tail
Ta Oscar's got to get going.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
He really does. He was a big juice for the
Dodgers last year.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
That's what it is, and that's why Dave Roberts says
that fire right there. It is, Yeah, figure it out
because they don't have a lot of emotion. You're right,
Old Tiny's gonna get his Mooki's hitting again, he's gonna
get his Freddy, He's gonna get his Now, what we
gotta do if I'm the other team is don't let
those guys beat us, right, And that's what they're doing.

(24:58):
They're not letting the other guys beat him. The other
guys aren't performing. There's just no energy. We talked many times.
When you watch the Dodgers in the Padres, the Dodgers
like a bunch of guys that show up with their briefcase.
They're wearing coats, they got to tie. They walk into
the office, they sit down, they log out of the computer.
They work hard, they work fast, they get everything done

(25:19):
for the day. They pick up their briefcase and they
go home. They're very workmen like they just are. The
Podres come in, they're in jeans. Half of them are,
you know, in tank tops. They're running around throwing stuff
at each other in the office laughing. The boss has
got to come out and keep an eye on them.
Stay focused, you guys, what are you doing? So Dodgers

(25:41):
are Wall Street and Podreys a Silicon valley.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
That's exactly right, right right.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
The Dodgers are the guys that you look at them
and you go, hey, there's a fight outside. They'd be
the guys to go, you guys, knock it off. Stop
Now you tell the Padres is a fight outside, fifteen
of them will go charging out the door to get
into it. That's the difference, and that's the fire. I
think that Dave Roberts is mentioning and that you will

(26:07):
allude to. They just don't have any hand of the lineup.
Now there's no pow, there's there's no dog as you
would say, make had they had basis loaded with nobody out,
yet basis loaded with nobody out and got zero twice
they had it, they got zero last year, they would
have made somebody pay. The game would have been over,

(26:29):
they got basis loaded with nobody out, games would be over.
They would have made them pay, and they haven't done that.
This is there's been several times this year they've had.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
That and they haven't. They haven't scored a run, they
haven't made anybody pay.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, that's the key, Right, you make a mistake, you're
gonna pay for it, right You You do that and
you know what's coming next. Well, the other teams have
made mistakes. The other teams have done that, and what
happens nothing.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I don't even think honestly, right now and we kick
this around. I think after the All Star break, I
don't think the other teams even fear the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I think that right now they're playing the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, but to them, they're playing the Dodgers, they're playing
the Royals.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know, it's who's who's in town tonight.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, it doesn't seem like they're because they're not imposing
their will. I think you can see now the other
team's playing them.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Okay, there's it's just.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
There's no Yeah, it makes sense when you play in
the NFL, oh yeah you play. I mean it's it's
talent obviously, but it's also emotions. You play with emotion,
and you're right with your analogy of the Dodging and Padres.
Now Padre don't look like they're playing with any emotion
right now either, so they're not taking advantage of this,
which is you know, Dodging are lucky for that. But yeah,

(27:48):
you got to play with that fire and that emotion.
And that's what I was mentioning the the others, you know,
the other guys that that really jump starts a clubhouse
when those guys in the order start producing like they
can produce, and if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen.
And you mentioned you know there's no fear. There's there's

(28:09):
right now, in no disrespect to Muki and Freddie, there's
only one guy that the other team's fear, and he's
leading off the game. And and like you said, don't
make a mistake. That's the mentality pitchers have when they
facial time. I can't make a mistake, I can't make
I can't leave things. Even I was starting seeing clips
of Paul Schime's facial Tani last time and Otani hit

(28:31):
one out on him.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
She did, and the next next time up.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
He was Peter pattern all around the strike zone, not
coming close, not coming close, and were being careful with him.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Anybody else he's not right.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
But as a team last year, that was the Dodgers
that you couldn't make a mistake up and down that lineup,
and if you put two people on, they were going
to score two runs. So you can't walk anybody, you
can't give up any cheap hits. It was that kind
of fear. And you're right right now, there's no fear
from the other teams with the Dodger.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
And it's and that's the difference in watching them, and
you can sense it. And it also goes back to
something we talk about body language.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Now, when you score, you're pretty happy.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
You're jumping around, tails, throwing seeds, everybody's smiling. But when
they're not scoring, you can see their body language.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
They're down.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
At times when you watch them, certainly they show up.
They actually have the appearance of being defeated, just sitting
there and watching. And how deflating is it to load
the bases twice and not move anybody around twice two times?

Speaker 2 (29:43):
If anybody even hits the.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Ball, Yeah, just hit it somewhere on that emotion part.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
So in the Dodger clubhouse, what do you think that does?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
The Dodge is demoralizing right right, It's like you had to,
you know, hanging out for the other team. It's like
we gotta say out of a jam. And now they're
pumped up. Now their emotions are high. And so it
works both ways. And when that happens during the course
of a game. Again to the point of they're not
making other teams pay. They're not making them pay, and

(30:16):
until they do, it's going to continue like this. Ben
boltch our Buddy writes for The Times, covers UCLA Sports.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
He tweeted something interesting.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Podcasters sports personalities, with their takes and content aggregators, should
all have to pay the journalists who are in the
locker rooms, asking questions and doing the work that makes
their jobs possible.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Now think about that.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
You could argue those journalists are making our job possible
because they report things that we comment on in our defense.
In our defense, in this scenario, we both kind of
know people, so we can do our own research, We
can make our own calls. Because Rodney played in the
league and has been an athlete his entire life, Because

(31:03):
I was a Channel four for over forty years. You
develop contact, so we have the ability to call people
and then discuss it. But a lot of the people
that do what we do or are podcasters, and god
bless them, they get their information directly from reporters who
would be considered journalists in the locker room. And Ben

(31:26):
Bolt says, well, that's sort of privileged information. I mean,
we found it, we sourced it, we reported it, and
that being said, maybe these people that use our stuff
should pay us.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
What do you think of that?

Speaker 1 (31:41):
That's an interesting concept, Fred, It really is, I think
because there's so much media now and so many outlets
and so much individuality when it comes to creating your
own content. Maybe twenty years ago and and certain people
that would have their different takes, like as ESPN would

(32:03):
be out there and then someone reported and got their
information from the press conference after a game, and then
they reported it on Sports Center or.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Something like that.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Maybe yeah, But now that everybody's got social media and
everybody's got a podcast now out the actual athlete.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Is going to tell his own narrative.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
He's going to spin it the way he wants to
spend it, So he may not give that reporter after
the game. What he wants now, which is different. It's
great for the athlete because they can speak in their
own voice and talk to their followers, and it generates
income and it's a whole business model. But I do
understand where he's coming from, is that all of these

(32:46):
which they popped up, I mean a thousand pop up
every day when it comes to podcasts, and most of
them are sports related. But you're also seeing those podcasts,
especially the big ones. Ihearm Barstool, you know, Fan Duel,
all those big ones that have a bunch of bunch
of you know, partnerships with individuals. They'll have somebody in

(33:08):
the locker room, right, They'll have somebody there, the athletic well,
you know, they'll have people there now that that will
gain all the information that they want to gain to
give it to their podcasters. So it's a different world
now than it was before. And I get I get
what he's saying. It's like we're doing the dirty work
and you guys are reaping all the reward for it. Yeah,

(33:30):
we do the work and then we give it to
you and then you deal with it as you will,
and you turn it into content for your shows.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
You know on this topic.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
And I have this conversation with people all the time
and another little project I work on, and you, you know,
you say, well, you have barstool, you got the Athletic
Fan Duel, everybody's got a podcast, everybody's doing this stuff,
and you know, we need to talk about verified journalists.
Ben Bulch, do you realize in today's world, everybody's sitting
in here right now. I don't care how old you are,

(34:00):
you are a reporter. Every single person here is a reporter.
You all have a phone with a camera and anytime
you record anything you see, and most people post it
on social media. Generationally, it depends what platform. But when
you post that, you, in theory, are reporting that everybody

(34:22):
here is a reporter. Now they all have the technology. Now,
when I was growing up, when Rodney was growing up,
many many of you, when you were growing.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Up, that didn't exist. It didn't.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
You only could get information from verified sources because they
had access and equipment.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
No cameras on phones.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Right now, thank god, Yeah, because that's what I've been in.
Golly didn't growing up. Trust me, the camera's on phone,
I got it. Come on, man, come on. The thing
is this everybody's a reporter. If an athlete walked out
of this place right now and you said, hey, let
me ask your question TMZ style, they responded, however, and

(35:01):
you post that you've reported that, you have made news.
So it makes it hard for journalists, trained professionals who
went to school and have done it for years at
times to actually compete with that.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Also, you have, and you're aware of this, absolutely positively,
zero privacy.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
None.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
It doesn't exist any longer. The presumptions of privacy, my
right to privacy, you have none. Nobody in here does.
If you think you do, you're wrong. If you believe
you do, you're fooling yourself. You have no privacy. Why
everybody has a phone at any moment, anybody could record
any of you sitting in here right now. You wouldn't

(35:45):
even know it. You know, there are people walking around
now with classes and those glasses are cameras and they
are recording everything you do.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Everything. You have no privacy. So if somebody catches you.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
At a moment where you're looking the wrong way, or
a friend comes up and you greet them a certain way,
they capture that, they post that. Yeah, they can tell
any story they want.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
GPS can find you anywhere.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
They you know, you want to anywhere phone like some
you know whoever Otani's gonna be here somewhere, and he's
got a cell phone. Somebody technically can can find can
track that phone and find where he is. Do you
have the device on your phone? Do you have the
app where you can find find friends, find your family?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah? Do you know?

Speaker 1 (36:33):
I know exactly where everybody in my family is right now,
right now, from Dallas, Texas, to Phoenix, Arizona, to the
San Fernando Valley to Culver City, right now, I know
where everybody is. I tell you a funny story too,
speaking of technology, So we have two dogs, two rescues,

(36:57):
one a husky and one a Great Dane, and they
both love to run, so they have to get their
exercise on a regular basis. So Holly got these new
collars for them that is the same thing as GPS tracking.
It tracks their steps, how many steps they got in
you know, each day.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
So she's out of town, you know, and she called and.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Said, hey, did you walk the dogs today, And of
course me thinking I can get away with it, and said, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, yeah, I took them around the block real quick.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Why do they have the same amount of steps as
they had when they woke up this morning?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Walk them damn dogs. Get your ass up and walk
the dog like damn.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
I can't get away with none of in New York
City telling me I didn't.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Walk the dogs. How does she know she tracked it?
That is the best?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Okay, Oh my god, you know what? We need to
start giving stuff away?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah we do. Should we do a BJ's gift card
to start? How about that? All right?

Speaker 1 (38:09):
You know what, I don't need that attitude from you.
I mean, my god, we're giving everything away, but let's
just start with this, all right. Uh So during get
your tickets out, everybody, get your tickets.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Get ready. During the break, we're gonna give that DJ's
gift card.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Away one o'clock. The Man of the Big Jared ned
Colletti joints Fred Rogan Rodney.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
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Speaker 1 (38:49):
All right, we are back at BJ's Restaurant and Brewe
House in Irvine. We are here till three o'clock. We
invite everybody to come on down. All right, We've already
given away one of the great gift cards from BJ's
Restaurant and brew House.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Got another one to give.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Away, Oh, Freddie, A pazuki just went by, world famous Pazukia,
world famous.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Hey, next hour, we're gonna play a live game.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Somebody will come up and try to beat Rodney in
the game, and if you do, you win the prize
that's coming up next hour. But now let's bring out
our good friend Jacob and Ronni.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yes, all right, and now from the court to the
court room with Jacob and Ronni.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Hey, Jacob, how are you, buddy. We're down here at
BJ's and Irvine. How's it going with you? Oh?

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I'm so jealous. I loved I love those kazuki.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, one just went by. Man. It it teases me
right now, it teases me, Jacob.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Uh, you got, I know, I know, I gotta do
things like that when I'm not close to the wife.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
So it's good I can do it here. You know.
It's a thirty mile rule. I can do whatever I want.
Is that the rule. That's the rule. Okay, that's the rule. Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Jacob Fred took issue with me earlier in the week
because I came back after Labor Day and we came
back on the air on Tuesday, and I was I
was excited that USC started one to oh oh and
he and he pooh poohed that tremendously. And I know,

(40:17):
you know, it wasn't you know, a top ten.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Team that we played.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
But one and O is one to O and you
gotta beat the teams you gotta beat, So it's okay
to be excited.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Right.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
First of all, let me start by saying, it was
so exciting to be at the game and running into you.
I was with my family as usual. You you give
so much love to my kids and they enjoy seeing you,
and you know you always give them advice and all that.
So I want to start by saying that, because you know, obviously, man,

(40:49):
you finished so amazing and we had such a great
time seeing you there right before we got into the suite,
so I got to give you a shout out for that.
The other part of it is we always celebrate wins.
It doesn't matter who you're winning against. This is the
first game of the season. You get an opportunity to
see how your wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Cor is doing.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
We got a chance to see that. We got a
deep Yeah, come on, Fred, can I finish.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
My thought, Jacob?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Look, Jacob, everybody wants to celebrate wins. You don't throw
a party after you beat little sisters of the poor.
I'm sorry, hey, but you can excited me, right, God.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Hey, hey, we wanted this. You can look at this
as a scrimmage. We got to see how deep our
running back corps was. We got a chance to score
seventy you know, seventy four yard touchdown, fifty nine. I mean,
all these great touchdowns we got. Hey, we on. No
one's saying that we won the champ you know, the
championship yet, but it's a win.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
It's a win.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
It's a good way to start. Yeah, it's a good
way to start. Yeah, come on, Fred, come on, Fred.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
There's good news. There's good news in all this.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
No matter what USC does this year, hopefully they win
the Big Ten title.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
They won't, but hopefully they do. Hey. Hey, hey, I
don't care what they do.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I can assure you they are going to be one
better than U clathing.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Let me tell you something. You know, my wife is
a Bruin, and I got to tell you anytime, anytime
we could talk about UFC better than the Bruins. That right,
there is yet another thing was smiling about.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah, love it, I love it.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Well, you'll be able to do that a lot this year, Jacob.
Listeners love when you offer advice. Here's something I've been
wondering because you deal with us all the time. Yes,
you deal with folks that get into accidents. What if
you get into an accident with a truck? Is that
different than just a normal accident.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
So let me tell you. You know, a lot of times,
you know, we have insurance companies trying to deny that
our clients were injured in a accident with a truck.
So I imagine the other side of the truck they
hit us. But because the damn thing is so big,
you barely see any damage on the truck. And the
insurance companies for those trucks love to send us a

(43:23):
picture showing there's no damage to their car. But what
they don't send us is the fact that our car
got damaged pretty bad. My client was not in a
you know, ten thousand pounds vehicle. My client is the
one that took the actual hit from a ten thousand vehicle.
So you know, what's important is in truck accidents is

(43:45):
your attorney has to make sure that you get a
you know, quick team out there to be able to
make sure that they take pictures of all aspects. Sometimes
the trucks have undercarriage damages that the insurance company will
never send us, so being able to go get those
pictures are important. The other part of it is giving
the client the opportunity to have the best care and

(44:10):
treatment if they're injured. I always tell people who call
in if you're not injured, do not make a claim.
And we always tell them whether you're hit by a truck,
whether you're hit by a box truck, whether you're hit
by F one p fifty, you are the only one
who knows how you're injured, and it's between you and
your doctor to explain your injuries and for your doctor

(44:33):
to be able to give you the diagnosis and the recommendations.
When it comes down to commercial trucks, their insurance companies
like to fight harder, so it is important for the
person who's injured to make sure that you hired the
right attorney. You know, we're blessed enough in California to
have a lot of attorneys that can represent you. That

(44:55):
also means that you have that many opportunities to make
a mistake about it who you're hiring. Uh. You know,
I have a lot of love for a lot of
the great attorneys that are my colleague. And if somebody
ever calls me and says, hey, you know, I'm with
this person, what are your thoughts if I know their
background the first person, the first thing I'm going to
say is, hey, these people know what they're doing. But

(45:16):
I also get a chance to see Often that, you know,
the client ends up going to somebody who used to
do family law and now suddenly they think they can
represent them in an accident with a commercial truck or
with another type of insurance company. So I just want
our listeners to understand, go to an expert, ask for
their you know, history, ask for their settlements, ask for

(45:38):
what their experience is, and make sure that you go
in the hands of good doctors. Pick your doctors correctly,
get second opinions with your doctors, and make sure that
you take care of your health. That's really really important.
If you're ever involved in an accident, whether it's a
truck or just a car versus car, you just have
to know that you got to represent yourself correctly and

(45:59):
be an advocate.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
All right, Jacob, you are the man for that very reason.
Thanks for coming on today, Jacob.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Thank you guys, good talking to you.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Appreciate it. There goes our buddy, Jacob and Rodney.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Okay, Uh, we've got Charger Bronco tickets, We've got Dodger tickets.
Someone this hour will have a chance to beat Rodney.
I believe know your squad, know your squad. You know
your squad. If you beat him, we know the squad yet,
I believe we do. I will not reveal it yet. Okay,
but we will have a chance to play. Know your squad. Uh,
and a lot more to go. We're at BJ's Restaurant

(46:33):
and brew House in Urvine and come on down spend
the afternoon with us. Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete at a
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