September 4, 2025 • 54 mins
Ned Colletti hops on before the Dodgers complete their series in Pittsburgh. Bishop Montgomery has fired their football coach and cancelled its season amid controversy surrounding a man who paid parents to funnel their kids to the school. As the Cowboys and Eagles kick off the NFL season tonight, we play a clip of Jerry Jones from the show 'Landman' where he discusses how important being close to his family is to him.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And we continue on from Bejay's Restaurant in brew House
in Irvine, Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete. Nice crowd today. We
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(00:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Know who's playing. And that's great, that's what we want.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
That's football, and you're here for We are giving away
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we continue on until three o'clock. And now, with the
Dodgers mired in whatever they are mired in, the only
person we can call on is the man in the
big chair. He will provide the answers, he will give
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us the insight. Let's welcome Ned Kaletti to the show,
and Ned, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well, you're welcome how you doing over there, fred Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, talk to Freddy Ned, ask him how he's hanging
in doing years in the past, you know how he
would get. But he's amazingly calm this year. Ned. He's
not the old fred that was on red from the
moment May one hit. It's been very very calm this year.
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But I do since right now in this latest few games,
especially in Pittsburgh, that Freddy is getting a little uneasy.
He's getting a little uneasy, little bit ned a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well, you know, they've they've played a lot of baseball
the last twelve thirteen years. They may be bored April
to September. I don't know that they have. The record
they do against teams below five hundred is atypical. I
mean they usually just crush, run through everybody like that
and just you'll take it to them. But what they
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four and eleven in the last fifteen against teams under
five hundred?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I bet that's you know, is is
that as we enter into September, is that something to
be really concerned about that they're not beating the teams
that they're supposed to beat. Because we talk about it
all the time. Hey, they're built for the postseason and
they'll find a way to get it to going there.
You know, the depth of this team in a seven
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game or five game series is what's going to get
them through and teams can't hold up. But the way
they're playing now and not playing consistently is that when
does that become a real concern going into the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, I think you got to think about it. You
got to think about it a little bit like you know,
you're just and Dave Roberts, I think is referred to
you know, you just can't turn it down at all,
And I think that is true. You know, I was.
I was encouraged by most of their games against San Diego,
the team that is, you know right now that maybe
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their biggest rival and the team that's challenging had been
challenging them. So you kind of like that a little bit,
most of it, not all of it. But again, when
you when you go into Pittsburgh or even Anaheim, you know,
for what what the Angels did this year with them,
you know, it kind of makes you makes you wonder,
you know, you know, is it too easy? Is it?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You know?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
In San Diego has made is continuing to make it easy.
On the other side, all you can do is really
worry about your own team. But as you look at them,
you know they're not. They're not putting any pressure on
them either. You know, they keep getting beat there two
and eight, they lost their shortstop. The bullpens started free,
so you know they can in some ways, not necessarily
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coast but close to coast from this point on. And
obviously with all the injuries they've had, they don't want
to risk anybody getting hurt at this stage of the calendar.
So it's just it's kind of an uneven uneven feel.
That said, you know, I think the entire are they
flawed yet to some extent, but I think the entire
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league is flawed. Even even the great Brewers to some
extent are flawed. And I think that as you look
at it, I don't know. Again, I've said it all
all season long. I don't really know when everybody, when
he gets October, who's better. I don't know that there
is a better team. Nobody's going to run out Snell
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and Yamamoto and and Clayton's been terrific, and people think
that he's going to shut it down at the end
of this season. I'd be surprised by that. I mean,
he is, he's picked better than he has in a
couple of years, and the Stelle knows what he's doing
by far. But who can run out yamamotive when Snell?
You know, tough to do that for an opposing team
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to compete against those guys, uh Net.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I think the concern here and I understand holding off
the Podres, who are struggling at this point, but I
think the concern is you got to catch the Phillies.
If you don't catch the Phillies, even if you win
the division, you find yourself in the best of three.
So it's a double edged sword here, hold off the Podres,
but also you have to catch the Phillies. So even
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if the Padres losing the Dodger struggle, that doesn't really help.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They've got to get the Phillies too.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Ned No, no, no doubt, because you don't want that
first series. You don't want that first series for a
lot of reasons, including anything that happen best to three,
and you don't want the extra games. You don't want
your guys playing three extra games. If you can help,
if it gives those teams that have worked to not
have that series, a bit of a physical advantage, a
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bit of an emotional value. And about the other teams
that are playing it, they've got another big series that
they're going to have to win or go home after
playing all these months. So you're right, thetn't forget about Philly.
We always talk about San Diego, but they need to
be able to surpass Philly because you don't want that.
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You don't want that first round. You don't want it, Matt.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You know, we talked earlier about changes the Dodgers made
or probably will make, and one of them, you know,
the obvious one, as the guy who's been struggling all year,
as Michael Conforto at this point we're in September, he
struggled pretty much all year. Do you make that move
now as you get ready to head into October or
do you keep trotting him out there hopefully hoping that
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something is going to change with him.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, there's a piece of it that none of us
really know, and that that's where his his his state
of mind is at, and where Dave Robertson is with him,
and we're Andrews with him, and you know, at some
point you're going to have to make a decision as
to what you're going to do, either ride with him
the rest of the way or make a change. And
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if you're going to make a change, and maybe there's
a date in mind, maybe they're thinking, hey, we're going
to give them enough enough time here to to maybe
get hot. And we've seen guys that have had tough,
tough regular seasons and get hot at the end and
next thing you know, they're you know, and it can't
in the talk for an MVP of the series. You
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know you're running out of time though, and you see
a glimpse here, a glimpse there of the power and
the defense and things, but you don't see the consistency
that you need. But again, you know they've they've got
to be able to make a big move and move
the outfield around if they're not going to play or
you know, they got kimback, so that's a that's a benefit,
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maybe a little bit more versatility with some other people
who they can move in different spots because they do
players that can play all over. But you're probably think
you're probably a week away or so from from really
trying to cement what you're going to do, and let
your veterans know what you're thinking. You don't want to
take a veteran even if even though that have had
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below average seasons, and and just shock them at the
end of the year and say, you know you're not
on the roster, you're not going to help us. You
know you can, you can, you know, you stay stay
ready in case we have an injury to a round.
But you know, they they play with the houses money
a lot because they're they're that good. But again, the
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house's money is starting to run out a little bit
because you got Philly, because you don't want that series.
You know, I don't think they feel much heat from
San Diego or or you know, the Giants have played greatly.
The Giants have picked up about seven games on the
padres in the last ten days. You know, looking at
a wild card spot perhaps, but you know there's you've
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got to get the thing I would look for at
this time and maybe not this week, but certainly starting
next week. Is really a crispness to your play. You
have got to play as if it is October and
fine tune everything, fine tune the physicality of what should do,
the thought process to what you do, and that's got
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to come. Is it too early to do it on
the fourth day of September? Yeah, to some extent, sure
it is, because you still got another month before you're
going to have to really use it. But at some
point in time, you're in the very near future, you're
going to have to start to see that that Christmas
of play, where where guys are sharp with what they do,
where the at bats are really registered down, where they're
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not throwing away in at that or throwing away even pitch.
That's what this team has done for years. They grind
out at bats no matter who they're playing, and we
haven't always seen that in the last the last few weeks.
But at some point in time, you've got to You've
got to play in that manner because when he gets October,
everything is going to be fine tuned as it is.
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If you haven't fine tuned toil the point you're going
to need to be at the beginning, especially at best
of three, you know you may you may be home.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Net here's the thing that's also concerning to me, Dave
Roberts's you this word a couple of times fire, they're
missing fire, they're not feeling that.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
How do you ignite that fire.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Well, that's that's tough to do. That that is almost
I think the only people who can ignite the fire
are the players themselves. I don't think Dave Robinson is
going to hold a clubhouse speech that that surprises anybody with, Hey,
we got to play harder, we got to have more fire.
I think these guys have been been through this for
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over a decade. You know. I don't think he's going
to be able to say anything. I don't think any
manager would be able to say anything that's going to
be be such a game changer to the approach. The
players who know the players, know who the players are
who are maybe taking it slight or just kind of
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you know, daydreaming here, or they're not as focused or
not as riveted or not as have been found there fire,
so to speak, lately. That's up to them, and it's
up to the players and the leadership in the room
to call those guys out in a respectful way, one
on one and say, hey, what's up, let's go, let's
start to pick this thing up. I don't think anybody
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else can summon that, but players, Brodnie, what do you
think about it?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That's exactly what I said earlier, it's the individual players.
At this point, you're a pro, you're you're making a
lot of money. Uh, you get paid to do a job,
and if you don't have that fire within, then you
shouldn't be in the sport. No manager, no coach can
really it should It shouldn't take a manager coach to
light that fire. It's got to be the individual.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Amen. Yeah, I mean, you know how long's they've been there.
Dy's been there a long long time. You know, one
of the greatest records in the historym manager. You know people,
you know it shouldn't be sitting in the visiting locker
room and get tnc park that they're going, oh well,
you know, well what's up? We seem to be doing great,
you know. I mean, you can't thinking about it like that.
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You know yourself where you're at, you know how much
effort you put in, and you know, you know where
your teammates are at. These guys are together almost every
day since almost the first of February, so everybody knows everybody.
This group has been together buy in large for a while.
So you know, you look around the room and you
know who's in, who's out, and who's who needs to
get back in and nobody can do that but the
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individual themselves and maybe with a little help from some
of the other veterans and leaders in the room.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Ain't ned ain need playoffs start tomorrow? What's your rotation
for the dodge?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, it depends if the team is left handed or
right handed heavy that I'm facing. It's either yeah, I'm
a moto or snow And it's also depends it depends
if it's the three or it's the five too, because
you always have to think about, uh, scenarios, things you
don't know if you're just.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Say they say they don't get Philly. It's a three
game series. Who you trotting out there?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, I'm probably trotting out whoever can pitch Game one
and give me an inning or two in Game three
if I need it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So who is that?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well, it depends who we're playing. I don't I don't
know how the recovery goes, you know, I mean Snell's
Snell has been terrific. Yamamo has got no run support.
Otherwise he might be the best in the league, the
second best in the league next to the other guy
pitching tonight in Pittsburgh, But Uh, you know, you gotta
look at your match. I'm not trying to avoid the question.
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I don't have the other people.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, yeah, y'are Yeah, let me give you an answer.
Let me give you an answer. And I don't know
if you'll think it's wise or not.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I'm putting Kershaw on that playoff rotation. I think he's
had a healthy year. Net I'm putting I don't.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Think he has too. I think he has too. Well,
you're gonna start him in game one and then go
Snell and the AMMO. Yep, well in the best of three, so.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You're going to invested three. Yeah, that's what I'll do
best of three, I'm doing it. Where's Otani in this mix?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That's like, oh boy, well, you know what you could do? Now,
how's this one? I mean, if you want to just
you know, put stuff up on the wall, so to speak. There,
you know, how about you go lefty righty, lefty righting,
you go Clayton and and uh and Yamamoto in game
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one and you go you go smelling Otani in game
two and you hope you're done.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Because if you're not here comes last. Now that's that's
your option. How important man, how important is length as
we get into October that from your starting pitching.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, it's it's a it's a catch twenty two in
a way, because you know, guys are tired, even the
guys that haven't been pitching all year. You get to
a certain point. You know what the calendar says, you
know what your body says. So you know you want
to stretch guys out because you got the bullpen that
has been taxed all season long. And we've talked about
this maybe on the previous show. You know your middle
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relief is going to be a big thing. How you
know who they are? You can they stop a game
in the third inning that's going the wrong direction, So
you've got to you got to keep that in mind
a little bit. But you've got to give as much
rest as you can to the people that really need it.
And everybody knows who needs it to the medical staff knows,
Andrew knows, David knows, my prior, everybody. Everybody's got to
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feel for everybody where everybody's at, and you've got to
manage it that way. You got to. You got to
load manage your baseball team. Is you get to this
point of the year because you can't. You know, you
don't want somebody going one extra inning that you can
get to October and there's one less inning available, so
to speak. Because guys, now it's not only just you know,
getting hurt or this, but it's it's I go back
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to the same word, the Christmas, the Christmas of your
presentation as a portal team, but also as a picture
your Christmas of pitches. Is your slider as sharp as
your basketball guy has much jumped to it? Does your
change up? Is your arm tiring? So your change up's
a little bit more discernible out of the delivery. So
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you've got to save guys and preserve guys. You got
to keep guys sharp back and forth. But you look
at the number of innings your bullpen's got, and you've
got to think that there's some people in there that
are going to need a rest. There's some people in
there that may have extended at all as we've gotten
to the first week of September and may not be
able to recapture it until you get back to Glendale.
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So you know, there's a million different ways of looking
at it, and knowing your players is a key, and
knowing where they're at and know one who's feeling it
and who's showing it, whether it's just in their performance
or really in their body language. And you make those
decisions as you go, and you hope you're not playing
the best of three.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Ned if you can think back to last year at
this time, and it was dicey, there's no question about it.
Last year, but the Dodgers seemed to have a little momentum.
So if you can think back to last year and
now look at this year, what would you feel better
about the club where it was last year or this year's.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Club Last year? Yeah, last year, yep. I'm surprised at
the I'm surprised Pittsburgh could win at least two out
of three. As I said earlier, I'm surprised to Anahem
did what Anaheim did? You know, we haven't seen that.
We've really seen a team that wins. You know, a
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hundred games is a is a monumental achievement. But we've
seen this team blow past one hundred games like like
it was ninety games, and you know, we really haven't
haven't seen that. We haven't seen that same just crush
them approach. I used to tell John Hard tongue and
Nomar and Jay Harron, those guys on the air. You know,
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the games are too long for the other teams. They
would get a little bit of believe, three, four, even
five innings and boom they get im just get into
their bullpen, run bun, pitch counts up, get into somebody's
the week's out of their bullpen in the fourth, fifth,
sixth inning and crush them from there on. You know,
we see it from time to time, but I don't.
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I haven't seen it certainly the regularity of the past.
And that was one of in my mind, that was
one of their trademarks. Yeah, you may win for an hour,
but by the time we get to the two forty
five mark, you know you're going to be five down.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
And I haven't.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I've seen it a little bit, but not not as
much as I've seen it in the past. So I
would I would say a team from the past, last year,
perhaps all right, well see what happened that last point?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I just didn't want to say it. I wanted you
to say it so I wouldn't have to. Okay, I
definitely agree with that point. It's a very as Dave
Roberts would say it's sort of an unerving feeling right now. Yeah,
I think that's the best way to sum it up.
And it's just waiting for something. It's like you're waiting
for something to happen. If you look at the Dodgers,
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like Michael CONFORDO, you're waiting and hoping something will happen.
Nothing's going to happen with Michael CONFORDO. You're hoping something
will happen.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
With the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Well, I mean that's a great point because most teams
are hoping something happens. I think the Dodgers for a
long long time knew something good was going to happen,
and the other team also knew. For the Dodgers, something
good was going to happen. You know that may that
may be a little bit thinner right now.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
All right, Net thanks for the time. We'll talk to
you again. All right, gentlemen, go case nett Man in
the big chair.
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Go ahead, thank your friend Lee is here.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Come on, Lennelle, our buddy Lenel linell all the time
and talks trash and Fred all the time. That's fair.
Drove down here.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
He lives around the airport up in La drove down
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Know your Dodgers with Rodney.
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Speaker 4 (22:06):
Cool sounds good.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
All right, leel so here we know your squad? Oh
my god?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
All right, you guys can play along at home, meaning
standing here. So I'm gonna ask the question, and uh,
how are we gonna do this? How we're gonna do
Just yell out the answer? Yeah, yell out the answer. Okay,
ABC or D I thought you thought this through, Fray,
I forgot how we played I do too show hayl
Tony leads the team with eighty seven runs batted in
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this season, who is tied with tayo Ornandez for second
on the team with seventy eight runs batted in. Please
allow me to give all five choices. Okay, A Freddie Freeman,
B Will Smith, C. Max Munsey, d Andy Pie is E.
Andy Kaufman, Hey, Freddy Fruman, Will Smith?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Wrong? Wrong? Wrong both Dale an end not even a choice?
Oh yes, Eddie Pie has Rodney.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I knew it from the jump. You're just what give
Lenell a chance? I was all right, be in hospitable. Okay,
an inauspitchou start for you went out?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
All right?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Here we go, Okay, let's go. Who is it Dodgers
career leader in home runs? Is it A Eric Carrolls, B.
Duke Snyder, C. Gil Hodges, d Roy camp and l
I E. Roy Rodgers, gil Hodges? No, Eric Carrolls, No
Duke Snyder yet Duke Snyder. Yes, yes, Linel the cat
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got your tongue.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
No, yeah, it's kind of froze on that one.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Let me ask you a question. Here we go, Here
we go. First of all, you do listen all the time,
all right, and I know we haven't played the games
in a while, but we thought it'd be fun to
do it today. You would listen to okay, you understand
that the concept of the game. Yes, for you to
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answer right right, okay, so you you've got the concept definitely,
all right, so we just have to remind you.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Now, we're ready. Now, we're ready to start. Let's go. Now,
all right, let's stop falling around.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Come on, it's Thursday, it's game day. It's opening day
for the NFL. I need a little competition. I need
something to get my Jesus calling. Now, come on, man, fly,
fly fly, he goes fly. All right, here we go, everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
In two thousand and four, the Dodgers traded outfielder Milton
Bradley and all of the pieces from his game.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Why only there's only people of a certain age will
get that joke there, Fred. But if you got the joke,
it wasn't bad. Wasn't it pretty good? Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And four, the Dodgers traded outfielder Milton Bradley to who
for which player?
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Two?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
For which player?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
All right, let's just do this. They traded himTo Oakland
for which player A Andre Ethier he's CHOI ce Odallas
Perez d Willie, I Bar Willie Nelson, andre Andre Ethier.
The answer is Andre Ethier. Yes, all right, linell who
(25:30):
are you gonna say now?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Is Ibar Willie? I don't even realize that.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yah, yeah, yeah he started there. And one other little
side note which we like to tell, here we go,
here we go. I hope he's not listening.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I went to high school with Andre Ephier's parents, Dad, Byron,
wife Penny.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, then you dated mom?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
No, I got you did.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I never dated andre Ethier's mother. That's what you told
me back in the day.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, I never told you that.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I did say we were pretty good friends. Should we
just call him one day and put on the show.
Please call Penny one day.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Please, I want to hear stories. Maybe we won't call him.
We all graduated from West High School, home of a
thunderdome at Phoenix, Arizona, now a vocational school, not even
a high school anymore. But let's get this one. Is
that where you were the catcher? That's where it was
the catcher.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
A football.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yes, that's where I was the catcher at a vocational school. Okay,
now let's get serious. Good one Lennell's trying to win here,
Yes he is, with absolutely no possibility of doing so.
But he's trying. So if you even answer this, when
I might just call it a win, he sounds good.
Here we go, Good luck. The Dodgers meet the Cardinals
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behind a complete game show out by the late Jose
Lemon in the two thousand and four NLDS.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Which of these Dodger players hit two home runs in
that victory?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Adrian Beltrey, Steve Finley, Sean Green, Brett Maine or Gucci Maine,
Shawn Greens correct, Lenew.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Wait to go, le Now let them look at you
stepping up big time? Huh Okay, one more question? That
the year Sean Green did like fifty home runs? Yeah
he did? Did fifty home run? Yeah? All right, you're
ready do it? Okay, let's go Tanner Scott, This cannot
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be right. Tanner. Scott leads the team and saves this
year with twenty. Tanner Scott leads the team in saves. Yes,
yes he does, and then it went the prettiest of
saves save kind of a rough year. It saves who
is second on the team in saves with four? Wow,
(28:02):
here we go. We got the most opportunity. Yes, I
know who I think it is.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Is it our show favorite Jack Dryer, who is currently
in the parking lot warming up? Jack Dryer pitches every
single day the rubber r rubber uck? Is it Jack Dryer,
Alex Vessio, Kirby Yates, Ben Kisparius or Ben Mallard, Alexia
alexsi is correct?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Went out there? It is now look at lew came
it came through strong. You know, it's how you finish.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
It's how you finish because, with all due respect, in
this case, we don't want to think about how you started.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You did a great job finishing.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Good job, right job too.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
All right, give Lenel the gift card because he's earned it. Yes, Leonnell,
thanks for driving now, man, appreciate it's good seeing you.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Okay. I was fun to bring back no your squad. Yeah, yeah,
that was good. It's good. You know we haven't played
in a while. You know, I get to go back
to say never love Fred. Oh my god, we have
missed that. We have missed that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, okay, we you know what we should do in
this break. Everybody, get your tickets out, get your tickets out.
Let's give away the charger Bronco tickets. Let's do it
in this break and when we come back, the story
of a high school where things went very very wrong.
(29:29):
Fred Rogan Rodney Beat were live from BJ's and Irvine
on AM five seventy LA Sports.
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Speaker 2 (29:53):
Oh yes, we're down here at BJ's and Irvine. Rodney Beat,
Fred Rogan and join ourselves. Come on, let's go Freddy
all right.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Have you heard the story of Bishop Montgomery football? Have
you heard the story? It's very troubling.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
What happened was.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
There was a Guy's say, a guy. Everybody's got a
guy in life. Well, there was the guy who had
befriended a football coach, and the coach then moved to
Bishop Montgomery. The guy went around and paid parents of
kids up to fifty thousand dollars to transfer to Bishop Montgomery.
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Now you have nil in high school. Kids can capitalize
on their name, image and likeness, So you can do that.
What you cannot do is go around and start paying
the kids parents fifty grand to move their kid to
Bishop Montgomery. So the CIF found out about this and
(31:00):
they went, well, that's not nil. That is undue, and
you can't do that. The kids were declared ineligible for
two seasons. Bishop Montgomery, the football coach was fired. Bishop
Montgomery has been declared ineligible and has to forfeit its
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twenty five football season, which is totally unfair to the
other kids on the team.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
It's very unfair. Rodney so said, what do you think,
it's terrible. It's terrible. Then, and then the guy he
went on a podcast bragging about it. Yeah. Yeah, As
you mentioned, now even in high school, nil is legal.
You can do it through the legal channels and and
and pay high school athletes. But he was paying the
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parents forget kids to transfer and bragging about it, which
is probably how they got caught because he was out
there bragging this is what I did. Yeah, that is
how they got caught. Yeah. So it's just to your point,
it's sad for all the kids because if you're a
kid and the guys paying the parents, the kid is
just like, hey, I'm okay, I'm transferring. He doesn't necessarily
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already know upfront that that's what's happening. But for the
other kids on the team that didn't our parents or
them didn't get any money, and now they got to
forfeit their whole season. It's so sad because some of
these kids maybe believe that they can go on and
play college football. This is their opportunity, and now it's
been taken away from them when they forfeit the whole season.
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Where can they go now it's so late and see
the football season is getting ready to start. What do
they do for the fall if they can't go anywhere else.
It's a sad story that this one guy put everybody
in jeopardy.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Parents on the Bishop Montgomery team had written letters to
the school president saying that the transfers suddenly were receiving
preferential special treatment. Well, you would think, and kids that
were on the team where the transfer had then come in,
both kids have been demotic.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Well I would think.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So, you know, it comes down to how competitive and
what is the goal of high school athletics. Now, I
always say in college sports, don't call them student athletes
at the Division IE level.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
They're athlete students, they get paid, they're not students going
for an education at the division one, big time level. Hey,
I was talking about, Well that was then, and again,
I don't want to be labor the point you have
somebody wearing a USC jersey here. It's just different now
because now when people get paid, everyone knows and it's allowed.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
When you guys got paid, say, don't you start. Don't
you even start saying that there was no nil when
I played, Fred?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Okay, let me ask you this, was there ever a
point where you oversaw the maintenance of someone's yard or
anything like that? Was that your job where you might
go and make sure the sprinklers went on? And that
was your job and you were compensated for that anything
like that in your career.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I can either confirm or deny. Okay, what you are saying. Fred, Okay,
I don't know what you are saying. Well, I'm just
saying you had it. I worked in construction, Fred, when
I was That's right, you're in construction.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I was.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I was any of the buildings down here that you
worked on when they were being then. No, As a
matter of fact, I helped construct, uh, the Universal Studios
parking structure. Fred, I worked on that. Okay, with some
of my other buddies on the team. Right, and you
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put in eight out, I mean you put in eight
hour days, man, I put in the hours, fred I
put in the hours. I bet you did.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Did you go on the rides up their universal when
you were building a parking structure and.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
A few okay you've checked it all out. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Anyway, Now you can't get put the lunch That's the
only time I did that lunch out in lunch Hower.
You worked an eight hour DAN lunch with seven hours no,
okay exactly, why would it be anything less? But they're
athlete students. They get paid, and if you have a
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talented boy or girl in high school, you believe athletically
that they can grow, that they can get to the
top level, and that they have earned the right to
be compensated because of nil. When you look at high
school athletics, there are the halves, and certainly the majority
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of them are the half nots. I mean, Rodney's kids
went through high school here and my kids went through
high school here. I know what sports was like. We
were intimately involved in that type of thing. And I'll
tell you it is tough for a generic or regular
public High School Rodney to compete with schools.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Like this, they just can't. You can't. Why you why
you hear Modern Day in Saint John Bosco and you
know Oaks Christian out in the valley and Syrah can't
in schools like that that compete. And every year it's
because they are private and because they technically can attract
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the most talented kids in the area. And it's not
like it used to be where you grow up in
a neighborhood and that's the high school you went to,
right and it was a level, plain field and it
just happened to be the neighborhood. And some years that
neighborhood school was good and some years it wasn't. I
remember even when I came here my freshman year, there
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were schools like Banning and Carson and Long Beach Polly.
Those were the powerhouse on a regular basis because of
the neighborhoods and all the kids and all the athletes.
Ye now a lot of those kids are are transferring
out and going somewhere else and not staying and going
to those schools local publicly.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I know they are out in the Palm Springs area,
the Coachella Valley the desert high schools, you know, the
one thing. And I found this interesting that they're concerned
about there. Any time anybody shows any kind of athletic
superiority as a player, it doesn't matter the sport, especially football,
how young it could be a freshman. Uh huh, Okay.
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They know that they're coming here to go to school.
They leave the desert. Somebody goes and poaches them, pays them,
and brings them here because the NIL takes care of them,
and the people out there are really upset about it.
They go any kid that can play is out of here.
They never finish there. That's how serious high school athletics is.
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If they can find a guy in Palm Desert, right,
they'll pay him and bring him to Orange County. Yeah,
and the parents will say, we're all in. Well, it's
not even that now. Now it's state to state. They'll
bring kids from out of state to come in and
play your guy. I think DeAndre Ayton went to seven
schools before he finished up and went to Arizona.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I do I think he were. I think he went
to Sarah Canyon for a minute, and then he went
to school in Phoenix, and then he went somewhere else.
But yeah, it's it's turned into something that's uh, it's
it's not not good for everybody now, you know. And
I know it's competitive and and all that, but at
the high school level, like that when NIL gets into it,
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because it's it's turned into a mess in college and
just imagine the high school level. Yeah, and in high
school people will pay. Just don't get me wrong. I
think I think college athletes should get paid.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I know, the money that they generate for the school,
they should get paid. It's just got to be some
sort but right now, it's like a talent without a
sheriff they need. It's got to be some sort of
regulations with the NIL and the transfer portal and you
know kids that Okay, I didn't win the starting job
in the spring, so now I'm transferring or a kid
that you know, the kid from Joy kid from Georgia
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was a two time two year quarterback at Georgia and
gets ten million dollars. Now he's at Miami for a
senior year. It's just the whole system right now is
just a little bit out of whack.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
All right, We're at BJ's Restaurant and brew house, We're
down in Irvine. We're here till two thirty. The Dodger
game going on. Weather fine in Pittsburgh, which is good
news for baseball fans and bad news for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Paul Schemes is pitching against them. Yeah, but we got
Snake snell Zilla.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Going Come on, we got the snell Zilla going zero
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Okay, we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Peak on a
five seventy LA Sports. We are counting down now to
the Dodger pregame show. They are in Pittsburgh. They are
taking on the Pirates. They are hoping to avoid being swept.
They will not have an easy lift. Paul Schemes is
pitching for the Pirates, and of course you will hear
everything right here in the radio station. NFL season kicks
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off tonight. You've got the Eagles and the Cowboys. Let's
talk about the Cowboys for a second. Every year the Cowboys.
By the way, there's a reason you see the Cowboys
on TV as much as you do because nationally, for
many years they were America's team. Yep, and people still
want to watch the Cowboys. That's why you see them
in a lot of big games, not quite as many
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this year because they're not that good anymore. But that's
why you see they both.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Sides, right. People want to see them win and people
want to see them lose, right, right, So the Cowboys
are sort of like the Angels.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Ardy moreno Jerry Jones, except there are expectations for the Cowboys,
but they don't realize them. The Angels, there really aren't expectations.
But the philosophy owner wise is the same, been around,
had some success, still doing it, not going anywhere. This
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is our team, and times have changed and the way
people build franchises has changed. Now Jerry Jones employees almost
all of his kids, I mean all of his kids.
And by the way, you'll hear the Cowboys and Eagles
right here too on AM eleven fifty our sister station.
(41:45):
All right, Jerry Jones employs his whole family, and a
lot of people criticize the great kids. Yeah, both his
sons are like the beat right under him, right right.
And his daughter is the uh she is the VP
of Brandy for the Cowboy right, and she's the one
that orchestrated that the new documentary that's out with the Cowboys, right,
the one that is favorable to Darry Jones's.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Well, of course they controlled the content.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
So anyway, the family works in the business very much
like the Lakers, the Bus family. Right until there was
a split up with the kids. It was a family
run business. And you sit here and you go, does
that make sense? This family run business? Is that really effective?
So there was a show and it was on Paramount Plus.
(42:30):
It was called land Man. Anybody's seen land Man? Billy
Bob Thornton was in it. It was great and it
was about Texas oil fields. Basically, John Ham owned the
oil fields. Billy Bob Thornton managed the oil fields for him.
So as the story goes, John Hamm is suffering from
a great deal of stress every well as X millions
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of dollars. If one doesn't work, he's lost money. If
the other one works, he makes money. He's under a
lot of stress, and Billy Bob Thornton works for him.
John ham suffers a heart attack. It's too overwhelming for him.
He goes to the hospital. He's in the hospital. Now
Billy Bob Thornton drives up to go and see him.
(43:13):
So Billy Bob Thornton walks into the hospital of the
waiting room and John Hamm's wife goes, yeah, you know
that's not good. You can go in there and see him.
But you know Jerry Demi Moore, Yeah, Timmy Moore, Yeah.
He says, uh, But Jerry's there. He's probably given him
an airfold. Now we don't know who Jerry is. He's
not been introduced as a character on the show at all.
(43:36):
But Jerry's there. He walks in and it's Jerry Jones
sitting there talking to John Hamm, and he's talking about
what's important in life, and he's talking about what he
has done with the Cowboys. We want to play that
clip for you because sometimes art imitates life.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Go ahead, Kevin.
Speaker 6 (43:58):
My daughter in my thirties went to school at Stanford.
I couldn't stand it. She so far off market, so
so I'd think of reasons to make trips out there.
I said, you know, I need to get some things
going out here if I'm want to spend this kind
of time. So I went over to Brentwood, about twenty
or thirty miles from San Francisco, and I bought about
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twenty five lots like I was gonna build twenty five houses,
except I drilled four gas wells, and those four gas
wells in eighteen months paid me enough money for me
to buy the Dallas Coming. Paying attention to my kids
actually led to me getting involved into the passion of
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my life, and all along what I was trying to
do is hang out near my daughter. Now I'm not
saying I've done anything right, but I made my mind
a long time ago I was gonna work with my kids,
and they're involved in everything there involved my leasing oil
and gas real estates. I thought I was doing it
for them, but the got the most out of it
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was me. I just know it's not gonna be this time,
but you're gonna be sitting here sometime in the future,
laying here sometime in the future, and this room's gonna
be full of your business associates and the people you've
worked with all your life, and more than likely your
children and family gonna be there because they are your
children and your family. But you could have them there
(45:23):
because they're the people you spent your life with, you
worked with, you fell down with, you got up with.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
When you hear that this true story too, Yeah, it
wasn't acting. That was actually one troop, but he he
told that story in the in the movie and the show.
In the show.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, I remember him saying that,
and it just struck me. I'm sure it struck you
as well. Yeah, because that's really what's important. And then
you look at how the Cowboys are operated and his
entire family. No, they're not the most forward thinking group.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
They're not. They're behind it a lot of things. Well,
they're not the most forward thinking group in terms of
running the football piece of Cowboys everything else, they're way
ahead of the game. Have you been to Frisco, Texas
and seen the facilities and what they've built there, It's
like you've never seen it is Disneyland in terms of
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athletic facilities, so real estate and what they built with
the brand is ridiculous. He bought that team for less
than one hundred and fifty million dollars and it's worth
twelve billion right now. And him striking it, you know,
that was pure luck that he struck goal. I mean,
he struck oil and what he did and allowed him
to buy the Cowboys. But the way he runs the
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Cowboys now, it has passed him by. When you put
yourself as the general manager and you think about the
general managers around different sports and what they have to
think about Andrew Freeman and the work and time he
puts in and studying people and players and interacting with
all Jerry doesn't have the bandwidth to do that anymore.
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And someone asked him and he got offended by it.
Someone asked him, you're the general owner and general manager
of the Cowboys, and he tried to play it off like, yeah,
I watch film, I go to Senior Bowls, I do
all these things. I scout doesn't. And they asked him who,
what other team would hire you as a general manager, okay,
(47:40):
And he couldn't answer the question, and he actually got
mad at the report. Dale Hansen was the one Buddy
Dale Hansen. He tells the story how Jerry got pissed
off at him and stormed out of the room because
he didn't have an answer for that and understood that
probably know By was going to hire him as a
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general manager of their team. And it's such a specific
job nowadays that you can't do that. You can't be
the owner and do all the other business that he
does and also be a general manager, which is why
the Cowboys haven't been back to the Super Bowl in
thirty years.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
But they do not operate football operations well for that reason,
by the way. Two, if his sons are in football operations, correct,
But what he has done, and I don't know if
it's every parent's goal or dream, he surrounded himself with
his kids. He built a life where his kids are
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always around him. I mean, yeah, my wife is kidded around.
You gotta admire that.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Though. Yeah, in her perfect world, she would buy a
compound and all the kids would live there, and their
spouses and their kids and their animals, everybody, the whole
family would be in one place together. He figured out
a way to do that.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, And as I look at the operation of the
Cowboys and how they've struggled, how far they've fallen. I
remember that speech he gave. Can I tell you a
story real quick, please?
Speaker 2 (49:11):
So I played a lot of years, played for six
different teams in the NFL and played sixteen years, and
I started my career in Detroit and Detroit then in
the nineties were is not the Detroit of today. No,
it was the cheapest organization with the richest owners. The
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Ford family owned that team since the inception basically, and
Fords were multi billionaires in the sixties and seventies and
built an empire and basically own all of Detroit. But
they didn't care about football. They cared about the image
of owning that team. You lived in Detroit, you understand
why was there. Didn't really care about the wins and
(49:55):
losses of the Lions. It's since changed. The young It's
daughter now takes and is in control of the Lions,
and she is about winning, which is why they are
doing well now. But back then, my first five years,
and we don't have time, but there are so many
stories of just things that you would think a professional
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team would do, and how they would treat players and
just the organization. Wise, I was things were better at
USC than at Detroit, and which is which is weird?
And so five years there, thinking that's what the NFL
is all about. My contract is finally up in Detroit.
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I gotta get out. It's just not going in the
direction I want to. I gotta have reprieve, so let
me go go somewhere. I end up getting chased by
Dallas to come down there. So I go play a
year in Dallas, and it was just like a reset
button for me. But when I got to Dallas and
saw how Jerry had owned the team now for five
(50:58):
years to Dallas, and it was night and day of
how an organization, a professional organization is run from Detroit
to Dallas. And I'm talking about the littlest of things.
I'm talking about the equipment, I'm talking about the having
new socks. I'm talking about travel, staying in a four
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seasons when you travel, as opposed to a holiday in
express when you travel. I'm talking about traveling where offensive
lineman three hundred pounders are sitting three person to a
row to a seven forty seven, where everybody's got their
own row. And I would say, this is the last
thing about Jerry. We're at mini camp and it's in
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right after a draft, and he comes out and people
don't forget Jerry played football in college. He understands football
to a certain extent, which is probably why he's so
arrogant right now about running a team and understanding football.
He would come out and mind you, we would have
probably twenty new players right after the draft and free
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agents and stuff like that. Not only did he know
every player's name and background, he knew every person that
worked in the organization first and last name and something
about their family. To the maintenance guy that was cutting
the grass right before practice, he would say, hey, George,
how you doing. How's Martha doing? And I'm not trying
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to I'm just here overhearing him have a conversation with him.
The security guard at the front. He knew everybody, everybody
in the organization's name and something about them, and he
was that familiar with it. So it doesn't surprise me
that he wanted his family around him and how he
runs his business. And again, say what you want, but
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it was the most first class organization that I'd ever
been around. And no, should he be the general manager?
Absolutely not. But in terms of running a first class organization,
which is the reason why today still guys want to
still play for the Cobbles Typerent Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, you know, I just think it speaks to something
that we all have to make decisions about what our
priorities are in life. And your priorities change as you grow.
When you're younger than one thing, as you get older,
they change. And when I heard that speech and now
(53:28):
the story you just told about he knew everybody, everybody. Yeah,
you know what, he's a pretty bad football general manager,
he really is. Time has passed him by. But you
know what he does sound like he is a pretty
good human being. And at the end of the day,
how do you want to be remembered. If he knows
the people that work for him in that organization as
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you suggest he does, that's it, that's gold. He should
turn the job over to somebody else and let him
build a winning football team. Should definitely should.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
But boy, the love of his family, the people that
work with him, I am telling you, I think that's
the key, and I Ashley think.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. We're giving those Dodger
tickets away. Get ready, Get Ready, Get ready. Want to
thank everybody for coming down here to Irvine today. Appreciate
it greatly. It's so good to see you. They don't
let us out often.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
They really don't. Thank you guys for coming down. Thank
you for your support. Really appreciated. All right.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Pregame show for the Dodgers and Pirates next Rodney Night
back tomorrow. So long from Bjy's and Irvine
And we continue on from Bejay's Restaurant in brew House
in Irvine, Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete. Nice crowd today. We
appreciate everybody being here. If you are in the area,
we invite you to come on down. We will be
here till three o'clock and when we go off the air,
you'll be getting ready for the kickoff of the NFL season.
So many of you will be seated exactly where you're at.
(00:23):
And as I said last hour, you have probably started
drinking around noon, so by five point twenty when the
game kicks off, you won't even.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Know who's playing. And that's great, that's what we want.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
That's football, and you're here for We are giving away
tickets to see the Dodgers. We're giving away tickets for
the Chargers taking on the Broncos. All of that as
we continue on until three o'clock. And now, with the
Dodgers mired in whatever they are mired in, the only
person we can call on is the man in the
big chair. He will provide the answers, he will give
(00:57):
us the insight. Let's welcome Ned Kaletti to the show,
and Ned, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well, you're welcome how you doing over there, fred Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, talk to Freddy Ned, ask him how he's hanging
in doing years in the past, you know how he
would get. But he's amazingly calm this year. Ned. He's
not the old fred that was on red from the
moment May one hit. It's been very very calm this year.
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But I do since right now in this latest few games,
especially in Pittsburgh, that Freddy is getting a little uneasy.
He's getting a little uneasy, little bit ned a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well, you know, they've they've played a lot of baseball
the last twelve thirteen years. They may be bored April
to September. I don't know that they have. The record
they do against teams below five hundred is atypical. I
mean they usually just crush, run through everybody like that
and just you'll take it to them. But what they
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four and eleven in the last fifteen against teams under
five hundred?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I bet that's you know, is is
that as we enter into September, is that something to
be really concerned about that they're not beating the teams
that they're supposed to beat. Because we talk about it
all the time. Hey, they're built for the postseason and
they'll find a way to get it to going there.
You know, the depth of this team in a seven
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game or five game series is what's going to get
them through and teams can't hold up. But the way
they're playing now and not playing consistently is that when
does that become a real concern going into the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, I think you got to think about it. You
got to think about it a little bit like you know,
you're just and Dave Roberts, I think is referred to
you know, you just can't turn it down at all,
And I think that is true. You know, I was.
I was encouraged by most of their games against San Diego,
the team that is, you know right now that maybe
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their biggest rival and the team that's challenging had been
challenging them. So you kind of like that a little bit,
most of it, not all of it. But again, when
you when you go into Pittsburgh or even Anaheim, you know,
for what what the Angels did this year with them,
you know, it kind of makes you makes you wonder,
you know, you know, is it too easy? Is it?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You know?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
In San Diego has made is continuing to make it easy.
On the other side, all you can do is really
worry about your own team. But as you look at them,
you know they're not. They're not putting any pressure on
them either. You know, they keep getting beat there two
and eight, they lost their shortstop. The bullpens started free,
so you know they can in some ways, not necessarily
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coast but close to coast from this point on. And
obviously with all the injuries they've had, they don't want
to risk anybody getting hurt at this stage of the calendar.
So it's just it's kind of an uneven uneven feel.
That said, you know, I think the entire are they
flawed yet to some extent, but I think the entire
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league is flawed. Even even the great Brewers to some
extent are flawed. And I think that as you look
at it, I don't know. Again, I've said it all
all season long. I don't really know when everybody, when
he gets October, who's better. I don't know that there
is a better team. Nobody's going to run out Snell
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and Yamamoto and and Clayton's been terrific, and people think
that he's going to shut it down at the end
of this season. I'd be surprised by that. I mean,
he is, he's picked better than he has in a
couple of years, and the Stelle knows what he's doing
by far. But who can run out yamamotive when Snell?
You know, tough to do that for an opposing team
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to compete against those guys, uh Net.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I think the concern here and I understand holding off
the Podres, who are struggling at this point, but I
think the concern is you got to catch the Phillies.
If you don't catch the Phillies, even if you win
the division, you find yourself in the best of three.
So it's a double edged sword here, hold off the Podres,
but also you have to catch the Phillies. So even
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if the Padres losing the Dodger struggle, that doesn't really help.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They've got to get the Phillies too.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Ned No, no, no doubt, because you don't want that
first series. You don't want that first series for a
lot of reasons, including anything that happen best to three,
and you don't want the extra games. You don't want
your guys playing three extra games. If you can help,
if it gives those teams that have worked to not
have that series, a bit of a physical advantage, a
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bit of an emotional value. And about the other teams
that are playing it, they've got another big series that
they're going to have to win or go home after
playing all these months. So you're right, thetn't forget about Philly.
We always talk about San Diego, but they need to
be able to surpass Philly because you don't want that.
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You don't want that first round. You don't want it, Matt.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You know, we talked earlier about changes the Dodgers made
or probably will make, and one of them, you know,
the obvious one, as the guy who's been struggling all year,
as Michael Conforto at this point we're in September, he
struggled pretty much all year. Do you make that move
now as you get ready to head into October or
do you keep trotting him out there hopefully hoping that
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something is going to change with him.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, there's a piece of it that none of us
really know, and that that's where his his his state
of mind is at, and where Dave Robertson is with him,
and we're Andrews with him, and you know, at some
point you're going to have to make a decision as
to what you're going to do, either ride with him
the rest of the way or make a change. And
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if you're going to make a change, and maybe there's
a date in mind, maybe they're thinking, hey, we're going
to give them enough enough time here to to maybe
get hot. And we've seen guys that have had tough,
tough regular seasons and get hot at the end and
next thing you know, they're you know, and it can't
in the talk for an MVP of the series. You
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know you're running out of time though, and you see
a glimpse here, a glimpse there of the power and
the defense and things, but you don't see the consistency
that you need. But again, you know they've they've got
to be able to make a big move and move
the outfield around if they're not going to play or
you know, they got kimback, so that's a that's a benefit,
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maybe a little bit more versatility with some other people
who they can move in different spots because they do
players that can play all over. But you're probably think
you're probably a week away or so from from really
trying to cement what you're going to do, and let
your veterans know what you're thinking. You don't want to
take a veteran even if even though that have had
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below average seasons, and and just shock them at the
end of the year and say, you know you're not
on the roster, you're not going to help us. You
know you can, you can, you know, you stay stay
ready in case we have an injury to a round.
But you know, they they play with the houses money
a lot because they're they're that good. But again, the
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house's money is starting to run out a little bit
because you got Philly, because you don't want that series.
You know, I don't think they feel much heat from
San Diego or or you know, the Giants have played greatly.
The Giants have picked up about seven games on the
padres in the last ten days. You know, looking at
a wild card spot perhaps, but you know there's you've
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got to get the thing I would look for at
this time and maybe not this week, but certainly starting
next week. Is really a crispness to your play. You
have got to play as if it is October and
fine tune everything, fine tune the physicality of what should do,
the thought process to what you do, and that's got
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to come. Is it too early to do it on
the fourth day of September? Yeah, to some extent, sure
it is, because you still got another month before you're
going to have to really use it. But at some
point in time, you're in the very near future, you're
going to have to start to see that that Christmas
of play, where where guys are sharp with what they do,
where the at bats are really registered down, where they're
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not throwing away in at that or throwing away even pitch.
That's what this team has done for years. They grind
out at bats no matter who they're playing, and we
haven't always seen that in the last the last few weeks.
But at some point in time, you've got to You've
got to play in that manner because when he gets October,
everything is going to be fine tuned as it is.
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If you haven't fine tuned toil the point you're going
to need to be at the beginning, especially at best
of three, you know you may you may be home.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Net here's the thing that's also concerning to me, Dave
Roberts's you this word a couple of times fire, they're
missing fire, they're not feeling that.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
How do you ignite that fire.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Well, that's that's tough to do. That that is almost
I think the only people who can ignite the fire
are the players themselves. I don't think Dave Robinson is
going to hold a clubhouse speech that that surprises anybody with, Hey,
we got to play harder, we got to have more fire.
I think these guys have been been through this for
(10:32):
over a decade. You know. I don't think he's going
to be able to say anything. I don't think any
manager would be able to say anything that's going to
be be such a game changer to the approach. The
players who know the players, know who the players are
who are maybe taking it slight or just kind of
(10:53):
you know, daydreaming here, or they're not as focused or
not as riveted or not as have been found there fire,
so to speak, lately. That's up to them, and it's
up to the players and the leadership in the room
to call those guys out in a respectful way, one
on one and say, hey, what's up, let's go, let's
start to pick this thing up. I don't think anybody
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else can summon that, but players, Brodnie, what do you
think about it?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That's exactly what I said earlier, it's the individual players.
At this point, you're a pro, you're you're making a
lot of money. Uh, you get paid to do a job,
and if you don't have that fire within, then you
shouldn't be in the sport. No manager, no coach can
really it should It shouldn't take a manager coach to
light that fire. It's got to be the individual.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Amen. Yeah, I mean, you know how long's they've been there.
Dy's been there a long long time. You know, one
of the greatest records in the historym manager. You know people,
you know it shouldn't be sitting in the visiting locker
room and get tnc park that they're going, oh well,
you know, well what's up? We seem to be doing great,
you know. I mean, you can't thinking about it like that.
(12:02):
You know yourself where you're at, you know how much
effort you put in, and you know, you know where
your teammates are at. These guys are together almost every
day since almost the first of February, so everybody knows everybody.
This group has been together buy in large for a while.
So you know, you look around the room and you
know who's in, who's out, and who's who needs to
get back in and nobody can do that but the
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individual themselves and maybe with a little help from some
of the other veterans and leaders in the room.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Ain't ned ain need playoffs start tomorrow? What's your rotation
for the dodge?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, it depends if the team is left handed or
right handed heavy that I'm facing. It's either yeah, I'm
a moto or snow And it's also depends it depends
if it's the three or it's the five too, because
you always have to think about, uh, scenarios, things you
don't know if you're just.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Say they say they don't get Philly. It's a three
game series. Who you trotting out there?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, I'm probably trotting out whoever can pitch Game one
and give me an inning or two in Game three
if I need it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So who is that?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well, it depends who we're playing. I don't I don't
know how the recovery goes, you know, I mean Snell's
Snell has been terrific. Yamamo has got no run support.
Otherwise he might be the best in the league, the
second best in the league next to the other guy
pitching tonight in Pittsburgh, But Uh, you know, you gotta
look at your match. I'm not trying to avoid the question.
(13:36):
I don't have the other people.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, yeah, y'are Yeah, let me give you an answer.
Let me give you an answer. And I don't know
if you'll think it's wise or not.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I'm putting Kershaw on that playoff rotation. I think he's
had a healthy year. Net I'm putting I don't.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Think he has too. I think he has too. Well,
you're gonna start him in game one and then go
Snell and the AMMO. Yep, well in the best of three, so.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You're going to invested three. Yeah, that's what I'll do
best of three, I'm doing it. Where's Otani in this mix?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That's like, oh boy, well, you know what you could do? Now,
how's this one? I mean, if you want to just
you know, put stuff up on the wall, so to speak. There,
you know, how about you go lefty righty, lefty righting,
you go Clayton and and uh and Yamamoto in game
(14:33):
one and you go you go smelling Otani in game
two and you hope you're done.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Because if you're not here comes last. Now that's that's
your option. How important man, how important is length as
we get into October that from your starting pitching.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, it's it's a it's a catch twenty two in
a way, because you know, guys are tired, even the
guys that haven't been pitching all year. You get to
a certain point. You know what the calendar says, you
know what your body says. So you know you want
to stretch guys out because you got the bullpen that
has been taxed all season long. And we've talked about
this maybe on the previous show. You know your middle
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relief is going to be a big thing. How you
know who they are? You can they stop a game
in the third inning that's going the wrong direction, So
you've got to you got to keep that in mind
a little bit. But you've got to give as much
rest as you can to the people that really need it.
And everybody knows who needs it to the medical staff knows,
Andrew knows, David knows, my prior, everybody. Everybody's got to
(15:37):
feel for everybody where everybody's at, and you've got to
manage it that way. You got to. You got to
load manage your baseball team. Is you get to this
point of the year because you can't. You know, you
don't want somebody going one extra inning that you can
get to October and there's one less inning available, so
to speak. Because guys, now it's not only just you know,
getting hurt or this, but it's it's I go back
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to the same word, the Christmas, the Christmas of your
presentation as a portal team, but also as a picture
your Christmas of pitches. Is your slider as sharp as
your basketball guy has much jumped to it? Does your
change up? Is your arm tiring? So your change up's
a little bit more discernible out of the delivery. So
(16:23):
you've got to save guys and preserve guys. You got
to keep guys sharp back and forth. But you look
at the number of innings your bullpen's got, and you've
got to think that there's some people in there that
are going to need a rest. There's some people in
there that may have extended at all as we've gotten
to the first week of September and may not be
able to recapture it until you get back to Glendale.
(16:46):
So you know, there's a million different ways of looking
at it, and knowing your players is a key, and
knowing where they're at and know one who's feeling it
and who's showing it, whether it's just in their performance
or really in their body language. And you make those
decisions as you go, and you hope you're not playing
the best of three.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Ned if you can think back to last year at
this time, and it was dicey, there's no question about it.
Last year, but the Dodgers seemed to have a little momentum.
So if you can think back to last year and
now look at this year, what would you feel better
about the club where it was last year or this year's.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Club Last year? Yeah, last year, yep. I'm surprised at
the I'm surprised Pittsburgh could win at least two out
of three. As I said earlier, I'm surprised to Anahem
did what Anaheim did? You know, we haven't seen that.
We've really seen a team that wins. You know, a
(17:49):
hundred games is a is a monumental achievement. But we've
seen this team blow past one hundred games like like
it was ninety games, and you know, we really haven't
haven't seen that. We haven't seen that same just crush
them approach. I used to tell John Hard tongue and
Nomar and Jay Harron, those guys on the air. You know,
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the games are too long for the other teams. They
would get a little bit of believe, three, four, even
five innings and boom they get im just get into
their bullpen, run bun, pitch counts up, get into somebody's
the week's out of their bullpen in the fourth, fifth,
sixth inning and crush them from there on. You know,
we see it from time to time, but I don't.
(18:31):
I haven't seen it certainly the regularity of the past.
And that was one of in my mind, that was
one of their trademarks. Yeah, you may win for an hour,
but by the time we get to the two forty
five mark, you know you're going to be five down.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
And I haven't.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I've seen it a little bit, but not not as
much as I've seen it in the past. So I
would I would say a team from the past, last year,
perhaps all right, well see what happened that last point?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I just didn't want to say it. I wanted you
to say it so I wouldn't have to. Okay, I
definitely agree with that point. It's a very as Dave
Roberts would say it's sort of an unerving feeling right now. Yeah,
I think that's the best way to sum it up.
And it's just waiting for something. It's like you're waiting
for something to happen. If you look at the Dodgers,
(19:25):
like Michael CONFORDO, you're waiting and hoping something will happen.
Nothing's going to happen with Michael CONFORDO. You're hoping something
will happen.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
With the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Well, I mean that's a great point because most teams
are hoping something happens. I think the Dodgers for a
long long time knew something good was going to happen,
and the other team also knew. For the Dodgers, something
good was going to happen. You know that may that
may be a little bit thinner right now.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
All right, Net thanks for the time. We'll talk to
you again. All right, gentlemen, go case nett Man in
the big chair.
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Speaker 4 (21:43):
Go ahead, thank your friend Lee is here.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Come on, Lennelle, our buddy Lenel linell all the time
and talks trash and Fred all the time. That's fair.
Drove down here.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
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Know your Dodgers with Rodney.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
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Cool sounds good.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
All right, leel so here we know your squad? Oh
my god?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
All right, you guys can play along at home, meaning
standing here. So I'm gonna ask the question, and uh,
how are we gonna do this? How we're gonna do
Just yell out the answer? Yeah, yell out the answer. Okay,
ABC or D I thought you thought this through, Fray,
I forgot how we played I do too show hayl
Tony leads the team with eighty seven runs batted in
(22:36):
this season, who is tied with tayo Ornandez for second
on the team with seventy eight runs batted in. Please
allow me to give all five choices. Okay, A Freddie Freeman,
B Will Smith, C. Max Munsey, d Andy Pie is E.
Andy Kaufman, Hey, Freddy Fruman, Will Smith?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Wrong? Wrong? Wrong both Dale an end not even a choice?
Oh yes, Eddie Pie has Rodney.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I knew it from the jump. You're just what give
Lenell a chance? I was all right, be in hospitable. Okay,
an inauspitchou start for you went out?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
All right?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Here we go, Okay, let's go. Who is it Dodgers
career leader in home runs? Is it A Eric Carrolls, B.
Duke Snyder, C. Gil Hodges, d Roy camp and l
I E. Roy Rodgers, gil Hodges? No, Eric Carrolls, No
Duke Snyder yet Duke Snyder. Yes, yes, Linel the cat
(23:42):
got your tongue.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
No, yeah, it's kind of froze on that one.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Let me ask you a question. Here we go, Here
we go. First of all, you do listen all the time,
all right, and I know we haven't played the games
in a while, but we thought it'd be fun to
do it today. You would listen to okay, you understand
that the concept of the game. Yes, for you to
(24:14):
answer right right, okay, so you you've got the concept definitely,
all right, so we just have to remind you.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Now, we're ready. Now, we're ready to start. Let's go. Now,
all right, let's stop falling around.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Come on, it's Thursday, it's game day. It's opening day
for the NFL. I need a little competition. I need
something to get my Jesus calling. Now, come on, man, fly,
fly fly, he goes fly. All right, here we go, everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
In two thousand and four, the Dodgers traded outfielder Milton
Bradley and all of the pieces from his game.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Why only there's only people of a certain age will
get that joke there, Fred. But if you got the joke,
it wasn't bad. Wasn't it pretty good? Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And four, the Dodgers traded outfielder Milton Bradley to who
for which player?
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Two?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
For which player?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
All right, let's just do this. They traded himTo Oakland
for which player A Andre Ethier he's CHOI ce Odallas
Perez d Willie, I Bar Willie Nelson, andre Andre Ethier.
The answer is Andre Ethier. Yes, all right, linell who
(25:30):
are you gonna say now?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Is Ibar Willie? I don't even realize that.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yah, yeah, yeah he started there. And one other little
side note which we like to tell, here we go,
here we go. I hope he's not listening.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I went to high school with Andre Ephier's parents, Dad, Byron,
wife Penny.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, then you dated mom?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
No, I got you did.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I never dated andre Ethier's mother. That's what you told
me back in the day.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, I never told you that.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I did say we were pretty good friends. Should we
just call him one day and put on the show.
Please call Penny one day.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Please, I want to hear stories. Maybe we won't call him.
We all graduated from West High School, home of a
thunderdome at Phoenix, Arizona, now a vocational school, not even
a high school anymore. But let's get this one. Is
that where you were the catcher? That's where it was
the catcher.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
A football.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yes, that's where I was the catcher at a vocational school. Okay,
now let's get serious. Good one Lennell's trying to win here,
Yes he is, with absolutely no possibility of doing so.
But he's trying. So if you even answer this, when
I might just call it a win, he sounds good.
Here we go, Good luck. The Dodgers meet the Cardinals
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behind a complete game show out by the late Jose
Lemon in the two thousand and four NLDS.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Which of these Dodger players hit two home runs in
that victory?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Adrian Beltrey, Steve Finley, Sean Green, Brett Maine or Gucci Maine,
Shawn Greens correct, Lenew.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Wait to go, le Now let them look at you
stepping up big time? Huh Okay, one more question? That
the year Sean Green did like fifty home runs? Yeah
he did? Did fifty home run? Yeah? All right, you're
ready do it? Okay, let's go Tanner Scott, This cannot
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be right. Tanner. Scott leads the team and saves this
year with twenty. Tanner Scott leads the team in saves. Yes,
yes he does, and then it went the prettiest of
saves save kind of a rough year. It saves who
is second on the team in saves with four? Wow,
(28:02):
here we go. We got the most opportunity. Yes, I
know who I think it is.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Is it our show favorite Jack Dryer, who is currently
in the parking lot warming up? Jack Dryer pitches every
single day the rubber r rubber uck? Is it Jack Dryer,
Alex Vessio, Kirby Yates, Ben Kisparius or Ben Mallard, Alexia
alexsi is correct?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Went out there? It is now look at lew came
it came through strong. You know, it's how you finish.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
It's how you finish because, with all due respect, in
this case, we don't want to think about how you started.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You did a great job finishing.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Good job, right job too.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
All right, give Lenel the gift card because he's earned it. Yes, Leonnell,
thanks for driving now, man, appreciate it's good seeing you.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Okay. I was fun to bring back no your squad. Yeah, yeah,
that was good. It's good. You know we haven't played
in a while. You know, I get to go back
to say never love Fred. Oh my god, we have
missed that. We have missed that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, okay, we you know what we should do in
this break. Everybody, get your tickets out, get your tickets out.
Let's give away the charger Bronco tickets. Let's do it
in this break and when we come back, the story
of a high school where things went very very wrong.
(29:29):
Fred Rogan Rodney Beat were live from BJ's and Irvine
on AM five seventy LA Sports.
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Speaker 2 (29:53):
Oh yes, we're down here at BJ's and Irvine. Rodney Beat,
Fred Rogan and join ourselves. Come on, let's go Freddy
all right.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Have you heard the story of Bishop Montgomery football? Have
you heard the story? It's very troubling.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
What happened was.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
There was a Guy's say, a guy. Everybody's got a
guy in life. Well, there was the guy who had
befriended a football coach, and the coach then moved to
Bishop Montgomery. The guy went around and paid parents of
kids up to fifty thousand dollars to transfer to Bishop Montgomery.
(30:37):
Now you have nil in high school. Kids can capitalize
on their name, image and likeness, So you can do that.
What you cannot do is go around and start paying
the kids parents fifty grand to move their kid to
Bishop Montgomery. So the CIF found out about this and
(31:00):
they went, well, that's not nil. That is undue, and
you can't do that. The kids were declared ineligible for
two seasons. Bishop Montgomery, the football coach was fired. Bishop
Montgomery has been declared ineligible and has to forfeit its
(31:22):
twenty five football season, which is totally unfair to the
other kids on the team.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
It's very unfair. Rodney so said, what do you think,
it's terrible. It's terrible. Then, and then the guy he
went on a podcast bragging about it. Yeah. Yeah, As
you mentioned, now even in high school, nil is legal.
You can do it through the legal channels and and
and pay high school athletes. But he was paying the
(31:49):
parents forget kids to transfer and bragging about it, which
is probably how they got caught because he was out
there bragging this is what I did. Yeah, that is
how they got caught. Yeah. So it's just to your point,
it's sad for all the kids because if you're a
kid and the guys paying the parents, the kid is
just like, hey, I'm okay, I'm transferring. He doesn't necessarily
(32:12):
already know upfront that that's what's happening. But for the
other kids on the team that didn't our parents or
them didn't get any money, and now they got to
forfeit their whole season. It's so sad because some of
these kids maybe believe that they can go on and
play college football. This is their opportunity, and now it's
been taken away from them when they forfeit the whole season.
(32:32):
Where can they go now it's so late and see
the football season is getting ready to start. What do
they do for the fall if they can't go anywhere else.
It's a sad story that this one guy put everybody
in jeopardy.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Parents on the Bishop Montgomery team had written letters to
the school president saying that the transfers suddenly were receiving
preferential special treatment. Well, you would think, and kids that
were on the team where the transfer had then come in,
both kids have been demotic.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Well I would think.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So, you know, it comes down to how competitive and
what is the goal of high school athletics. Now, I
always say in college sports, don't call them student athletes
at the Division IE level.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
They're athlete students, they get paid, they're not students going
for an education at the division one, big time level. Hey,
I was talking about, Well that was then, and again,
I don't want to be labor the point you have
somebody wearing a USC jersey here. It's just different now
because now when people get paid, everyone knows and it's allowed.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
When you guys got paid, say, don't you start. Don't
you even start saying that there was no nil when
I played, Fred?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Okay, let me ask you this, was there ever a
point where you oversaw the maintenance of someone's yard or
anything like that? Was that your job where you might
go and make sure the sprinklers went on? And that
was your job and you were compensated for that anything
like that in your career.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I can either confirm or deny. Okay, what you are saying. Fred, Okay,
I don't know what you are saying. Well, I'm just
saying you had it. I worked in construction, Fred, when
I was That's right, you're in construction.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I was.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I was any of the buildings down here that you
worked on when they were being then. No, As a
matter of fact, I helped construct, uh, the Universal Studios
parking structure. Fred, I worked on that. Okay, with some
of my other buddies on the team. Right, and you
(34:44):
put in eight out, I mean you put in eight
hour days, man, I put in the hours, fred I
put in the hours. I bet you did.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Did you go on the rides up their universal when
you were building a parking structure and.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
A few okay you've checked it all out. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Anyway, Now you can't get put the lunch That's the
only time I did that lunch out in lunch Hower.
You worked an eight hour DAN lunch with seven hours no,
okay exactly, why would it be anything less? But they're
athlete students. They get paid, and if you have a
(35:19):
talented boy or girl in high school, you believe athletically
that they can grow, that they can get to the
top level, and that they have earned the right to
be compensated because of nil. When you look at high
school athletics, there are the halves, and certainly the majority
(35:40):
of them are the half nots. I mean, Rodney's kids
went through high school here and my kids went through
high school here. I know what sports was like. We
were intimately involved in that type of thing. And I'll
tell you it is tough for a generic or regular
public High School Rodney to compete with schools.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Like this, they just can't. You can't. Why you why
you hear Modern Day in Saint John Bosco and you
know Oaks Christian out in the valley and Syrah can't
in schools like that that compete. And every year it's
because they are private and because they technically can attract
(36:21):
the most talented kids in the area. And it's not
like it used to be where you grow up in
a neighborhood and that's the high school you went to,
right and it was a level, plain field and it
just happened to be the neighborhood. And some years that
neighborhood school was good and some years it wasn't. I
remember even when I came here my freshman year, there
(36:41):
were schools like Banning and Carson and Long Beach Polly.
Those were the powerhouse on a regular basis because of
the neighborhoods and all the kids and all the athletes.
Ye now a lot of those kids are are transferring
out and going somewhere else and not staying and going
to those schools local publicly.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I know they are out in the Palm Springs area,
the Coachella Valley the desert high schools, you know, the
one thing. And I found this interesting that they're concerned
about there. Any time anybody shows any kind of athletic
superiority as a player, it doesn't matter the sport, especially football,
how young it could be a freshman. Uh huh, Okay.
(37:23):
They know that they're coming here to go to school.
They leave the desert. Somebody goes and poaches them, pays them,
and brings them here because the NIL takes care of them,
and the people out there are really upset about it.
They go any kid that can play is out of here.
They never finish there. That's how serious high school athletics is.
(37:45):
If they can find a guy in Palm Desert, right,
they'll pay him and bring him to Orange County. Yeah,
and the parents will say, we're all in. Well, it's
not even that now. Now it's state to state. They'll
bring kids from out of state to come in and
play your guy. I think DeAndre Ayton went to seven
schools before he finished up and went to Arizona.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I do I think he were. I think he went
to Sarah Canyon for a minute, and then he went
to school in Phoenix, and then he went somewhere else.
But yeah, it's it's turned into something that's uh, it's
it's not not good for everybody now, you know. And
I know it's competitive and and all that, but at
the high school level, like that when NIL gets into it,
(38:28):
because it's it's turned into a mess in college and
just imagine the high school level. Yeah, and in high
school people will pay. Just don't get me wrong. I
think I think college athletes should get paid.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I know, the money that they generate for the school,
they should get paid. It's just got to be some
sort but right now, it's like a talent without a
sheriff they need. It's got to be some sort of
regulations with the NIL and the transfer portal and you
know kids that Okay, I didn't win the starting job
in the spring, so now I'm transferring or a kid
that you know, the kid from Joy kid from Georgia
(39:01):
was a two time two year quarterback at Georgia and
gets ten million dollars. Now he's at Miami for a
senior year. It's just the whole system right now is
just a little bit out of whack.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
All right, We're at BJ's Restaurant and brew house, We're
down in Irvine. We're here till two thirty. The Dodger
game going on. Weather fine in Pittsburgh, which is good
news for baseball fans and bad news for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Paul Schemes is pitching against them. Yeah, but we got
Snake snell Zilla.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Going Come on, we got the snell Zilla going zero
zero game in the eighth and we are right around
the corner from giving you those Dodger tickets. BJ's and Irvine.
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Okay, we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Peak on a
five seventy LA Sports. We are counting down now to
the Dodger pregame show. They are in Pittsburgh. They are
taking on the Pirates. They are hoping to avoid being swept.
They will not have an easy lift. Paul Schemes is
pitching for the Pirates, and of course you will hear
everything right here in the radio station. NFL season kicks
(40:29):
off tonight. You've got the Eagles and the Cowboys. Let's
talk about the Cowboys for a second. Every year the Cowboys.
By the way, there's a reason you see the Cowboys
on TV as much as you do because nationally, for
many years they were America's team. Yep, and people still
want to watch the Cowboys. That's why you see them
in a lot of big games, not quite as many
(40:49):
this year because they're not that good anymore. But that's
why you see they both.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Sides, right. People want to see them win and people
want to see them lose, right, right, So the Cowboys
are sort of like the Angels.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Ardy moreno Jerry Jones, except there are expectations for the Cowboys,
but they don't realize them. The Angels, there really aren't expectations.
But the philosophy owner wise is the same, been around,
had some success, still doing it, not going anywhere. This
(41:25):
is our team, and times have changed and the way
people build franchises has changed. Now Jerry Jones employees almost
all of his kids, I mean all of his kids.
And by the way, you'll hear the Cowboys and Eagles
right here too on AM eleven fifty our sister station.
(41:45):
All right, Jerry Jones employs his whole family, and a
lot of people criticize the great kids. Yeah, both his
sons are like the beat right under him, right right.
And his daughter is the uh she is the VP
of Brandy for the Cowboy right, and she's the one
that orchestrated that the new documentary that's out with the Cowboys, right,
the one that is favorable to Darry Jones's.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Well, of course they controlled the content.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
So anyway, the family works in the business very much
like the Lakers, the Bus family. Right until there was
a split up with the kids. It was a family
run business. And you sit here and you go, does
that make sense? This family run business? Is that really effective?
So there was a show and it was on Paramount Plus.
(42:30):
It was called land Man. Anybody's seen land Man? Billy
Bob Thornton was in it. It was great and it
was about Texas oil fields. Basically, John Ham owned the
oil fields. Billy Bob Thornton managed the oil fields for him.
So as the story goes, John Hamm is suffering from
a great deal of stress every well as X millions
(42:52):
of dollars. If one doesn't work, he's lost money. If
the other one works, he makes money. He's under a
lot of stress, and Billy Bob Thornton works for him.
John ham suffers a heart attack. It's too overwhelming for him.
He goes to the hospital. He's in the hospital. Now
Billy Bob Thornton drives up to go and see him.
(43:13):
So Billy Bob Thornton walks into the hospital of the
waiting room and John Hamm's wife goes, yeah, you know
that's not good. You can go in there and see him.
But you know Jerry Demi Moore, Yeah, Timmy Moore, Yeah.
He says, uh, But Jerry's there. He's probably given him
an airfold. Now we don't know who Jerry is. He's
not been introduced as a character on the show at all.
(43:36):
But Jerry's there. He walks in and it's Jerry Jones
sitting there talking to John Hamm, and he's talking about
what's important in life, and he's talking about what he
has done with the Cowboys. We want to play that
clip for you because sometimes art imitates life.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Go ahead, Kevin.
Speaker 6 (43:58):
My daughter in my thirties went to school at Stanford.
I couldn't stand it. She so far off market, so
so I'd think of reasons to make trips out there.
I said, you know, I need to get some things
going out here if I'm want to spend this kind
of time. So I went over to Brentwood, about twenty
or thirty miles from San Francisco, and I bought about
(44:20):
twenty five lots like I was gonna build twenty five houses,
except I drilled four gas wells, and those four gas
wells in eighteen months paid me enough money for me
to buy the Dallas Coming. Paying attention to my kids
actually led to me getting involved into the passion of
(44:41):
my life, and all along what I was trying to
do is hang out near my daughter. Now I'm not
saying I've done anything right, but I made my mind
a long time ago I was gonna work with my kids,
and they're involved in everything there involved my leasing oil
and gas real estates. I thought I was doing it
for them, but the got the most out of it
(45:01):
was me. I just know it's not gonna be this time,
but you're gonna be sitting here sometime in the future,
laying here sometime in the future, and this room's gonna
be full of your business associates and the people you've
worked with all your life, and more than likely your
children and family gonna be there because they are your
children and your family. But you could have them there
(45:23):
because they're the people you spent your life with, you
worked with, you fell down with, you got up with.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
When you hear that this true story too, Yeah, it
wasn't acting. That was actually one troop, but he he
told that story in the in the movie and the show.
In the show.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, I remember him saying that,
and it just struck me. I'm sure it struck you
as well. Yeah, because that's really what's important. And then
you look at how the Cowboys are operated and his
entire family. No, they're not the most forward thinking group.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
They're not. They're behind it a lot of things. Well,
they're not the most forward thinking group in terms of
running the football piece of Cowboys everything else, they're way
ahead of the game. Have you been to Frisco, Texas
and seen the facilities and what they've built there, It's
like you've never seen it is Disneyland in terms of
(46:27):
athletic facilities, so real estate and what they built with
the brand is ridiculous. He bought that team for less
than one hundred and fifty million dollars and it's worth
twelve billion right now. And him striking it, you know,
that was pure luck that he struck goal. I mean,
he struck oil and what he did and allowed him
to buy the Cowboys. But the way he runs the
(46:50):
Cowboys now, it has passed him by. When you put
yourself as the general manager and you think about the
general managers around different sports and what they have to
think about Andrew Freeman and the work and time he
puts in and studying people and players and interacting with
all Jerry doesn't have the bandwidth to do that anymore.
(47:14):
And someone asked him and he got offended by it.
Someone asked him, you're the general owner and general manager
of the Cowboys, and he tried to play it off like, yeah,
I watch film, I go to Senior Bowls, I do
all these things. I scout doesn't. And they asked him who,
what other team would hire you as a general manager, okay,
(47:40):
And he couldn't answer the question, and he actually got
mad at the report. Dale Hansen was the one Buddy
Dale Hansen. He tells the story how Jerry got pissed
off at him and stormed out of the room because
he didn't have an answer for that and understood that
probably know By was going to hire him as a
(48:01):
general manager of their team. And it's such a specific
job nowadays that you can't do that. You can't be
the owner and do all the other business that he
does and also be a general manager, which is why
the Cowboys haven't been back to the Super Bowl in
thirty years.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
But they do not operate football operations well for that reason,
by the way. Two, if his sons are in football operations, correct,
But what he has done, and I don't know if
it's every parent's goal or dream, he surrounded himself with
his kids. He built a life where his kids are
(48:40):
always around him. I mean, yeah, my wife is kidded around.
You gotta admire that.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Though. Yeah, in her perfect world, she would buy a
compound and all the kids would live there, and their
spouses and their kids and their animals, everybody, the whole
family would be in one place together. He figured out
a way to do that.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, And as I look at the operation of the
Cowboys and how they've struggled, how far they've fallen. I
remember that speech he gave. Can I tell you a
story real quick, please?
Speaker 2 (49:11):
So I played a lot of years, played for six
different teams in the NFL and played sixteen years, and
I started my career in Detroit and Detroit then in
the nineties were is not the Detroit of today. No,
it was the cheapest organization with the richest owners. The
(49:34):
Ford family owned that team since the inception basically, and
Fords were multi billionaires in the sixties and seventies and
built an empire and basically own all of Detroit. But
they didn't care about football. They cared about the image
of owning that team. You lived in Detroit, you understand
why was there. Didn't really care about the wins and
(49:55):
losses of the Lions. It's since changed. The young It's
daughter now takes and is in control of the Lions,
and she is about winning, which is why they are
doing well now. But back then, my first five years,
and we don't have time, but there are so many
stories of just things that you would think a professional
(50:15):
team would do, and how they would treat players and
just the organization. Wise, I was things were better at
USC than at Detroit, and which is which is weird?
And so five years there, thinking that's what the NFL
is all about. My contract is finally up in Detroit.
(50:37):
I gotta get out. It's just not going in the
direction I want to. I gotta have reprieve, so let
me go go somewhere. I end up getting chased by
Dallas to come down there. So I go play a
year in Dallas, and it was just like a reset
button for me. But when I got to Dallas and
saw how Jerry had owned the team now for five
(50:58):
years to Dallas, and it was night and day of
how an organization, a professional organization is run from Detroit
to Dallas. And I'm talking about the littlest of things.
I'm talking about the equipment, I'm talking about the having
new socks. I'm talking about travel, staying in a four
(51:23):
seasons when you travel, as opposed to a holiday in
express when you travel. I'm talking about traveling where offensive
lineman three hundred pounders are sitting three person to a
row to a seven forty seven, where everybody's got their
own row. And I would say, this is the last
thing about Jerry. We're at mini camp and it's in
(51:46):
right after a draft, and he comes out and people
don't forget Jerry played football in college. He understands football
to a certain extent, which is probably why he's so
arrogant right now about running a team and understanding football.
He would come out and mind you, we would have
probably twenty new players right after the draft and free
(52:07):
agents and stuff like that. Not only did he know
every player's name and background, he knew every person that
worked in the organization first and last name and something
about their family. To the maintenance guy that was cutting
the grass right before practice, he would say, hey, George,
how you doing. How's Martha doing? And I'm not trying
(52:29):
to I'm just here overhearing him have a conversation with him.
The security guard at the front. He knew everybody, everybody
in the organization's name and something about them, and he
was that familiar with it. So it doesn't surprise me
that he wanted his family around him and how he
runs his business. And again, say what you want, but
(52:49):
it was the most first class organization that I'd ever
been around. And no, should he be the general manager?
Absolutely not. But in terms of running a first class organization,
which is the reason why today still guys want to
still play for the Cobbles Typerent Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, you know, I just think it speaks to something
that we all have to make decisions about what our
priorities are in life. And your priorities change as you grow.
When you're younger than one thing, as you get older,
they change. And when I heard that speech and now
(53:28):
the story you just told about he knew everybody, everybody. Yeah,
you know what, he's a pretty bad football general manager,
he really is. Time has passed him by. But you
know what he does sound like he is a pretty
good human being. And at the end of the day,
how do you want to be remembered. If he knows
the people that work for him in that organization as
(53:50):
you suggest he does, that's it, that's gold. He should
turn the job over to somebody else and let him
build a winning football team. Should definitely should.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
But boy, the love of his family, the people that
work with him, I am telling you, I think that's
the key, and I Ashley think.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. We're giving those Dodger
tickets away. Get ready, Get Ready, Get ready. Want to
thank everybody for coming down here to Irvine today. Appreciate
it greatly. It's so good to see you. They don't
let us out often.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
They really don't. Thank you guys for coming down. Thank
you for your support. Really appreciated. All right.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Pregame show for the Dodgers and Pirates next Rodney Night
back tomorrow. So long from Bjy's and Irvine
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