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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, we keep it moving, Rodney Pete, Adam Austlin on
a beautiful Tuesday here in Los Angele. Is it always
beautiful in LA?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I mean relatives is some places in the Midwest, and
the East coast exactly, exactly, West Coast, the best coast.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Exactly, Adam. Before we being on a Bill Plunkett from
the OC Register to talk some more Dodgers. I just
I had to think. I was driving in this morning, man,
and I'm like, some things annoy me.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Go on.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And I'm like, it feels to me like there should
be like natural common sense things, right, you would think.
So I'm driving in and there's traffic in La, like
there always is traffic coming into burbank, and I see
a big van who's in front of me, a big van,
and it's like weaving in and out. It's trying to
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change lanes, trying to find the right lane, but it's
in front of me, and it keeps every time I change,
it changes, every time it changes. I mean, I just
couldn't get pay. I was finally I was able to
maneuver around. I gave it a whole head fake and
I pull up next to the van and it's a
a van that is advertising painting, like we paint your house,
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will catch your car, will paint whatever, and call us
at this number on the side of it. It had
you know, we're the expert painters.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You're like, oh, I'm gonna give you a call, all right,
But I'm looking at the van, Adam, and it's the
worst paint job on the van ever, chip.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Ugly, it's faded. It's like not up to date. How
are you driving around in this van that's chipped and
faded and ugly with an advertisement of we're the expert
painters and your van is all ft up.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, that's a problem. That's like a past control and
they got rats falling out of their truck, Like that's.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
The most sanitary good.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna have a lot of
faith in that company.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I gotta say, oh my god, I tell you somebody
we have faith. And that's our man, Bill Plunket from O. C. Register. Bill,
what's happening man?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
You know, I'm a little disappointed to come on and
I was looking forward to Fred's stories about being a
line judge in peewee football and no offense at him.
I don't think you can bring the same level.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, I won't try to bore you to the level
that Fred Rogan does sometimes.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Uh, all right, Bill, let's get right to it, because
Adam and I would chopping it up. Man from last night.
You're the manager, you're Dave Roberts. Do you leave Toddler
Glass now and to try to get the no hitter?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Come on, Hell to the no.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, there's no way he left him in to throw
one hundred and five pitches. That was, you know, stretching
the envelope enough. There's no way Tyler glassnew finishes that game.
You send him back out for the eighth you know,
say he retires the side. That's another twelve pitches, fifteen pitches.
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Now you're up around one twenty. Nobody in this day
and age asks a Tyler Glass now to pitch one
hundred and throw one hundred and twenty pitches the other.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Three nights ago with Yamamoto, he had ye to do
exactly redeem yourself, Billy.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
No crowding to hell to the no, Hell to the no.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
You see, even my dog is offended by the suggestion.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Have that dog in him to go back out there
was was he asking to go out there?
Speaker 7 (03:38):
That's another topic. No, I don't think. I don't think
he was.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
His feelings were hurt when he was told that seven
was enough. The other thing is, if you send him
back out there and you know, maybe he loses the
no hitter, maybe he doesn't, it sends a bad signal
to your bullpen. And Dave has already said that there's
a crisis of kind confidence in that group. So if
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you send Glass now out there, well, he doesn't trust
us to finish it out. Now, maybe he shouldn't trust
some of them, but he's gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You think that does send a message. Bill, I don't
know he's throwing a no hitter though. He's throwing a
no hitter though, And you can have that excuse if
you're the bullpen and the guy's throwing a no no
in the seventh and you tried him back out there
for the eighth and you're sitting in the bullpen, don't
you understand, Okay, you gotta let him go. I mean,
I get it Glass now, the injury history, I get it.
But if you're the bullpen, I know they had the struggles,
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but you would understand as a picture. I'm sure all
of them at one point, were a starting pitcher, they
would go, are you crazy? You're not gonna let me
go try to finish this thing. I think they would understand.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Bill, No, I think they would think, you're not going
to trust us to finish this thing. I definitely think
that's the way it would have been been perceived.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
By the guys out there.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
The fact that he sent the Tryna and Scott, the
same two guys who blewe yamamotos no hitter, It tells
you something.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
What do you think of trying to show?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
What do you think about that? That was just a
confident fielder, like I'm not done with you guys. I'm
gonna keep drotting you out there.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yeah, he's telling them you're you. You gotta be our guys.
So I'm gonna trust you to be our guys.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Is Jack Dryer just not an option to close right now?
Is it too soon? How many more chances does Tanner
Scott get because obviously, if Trinan was was pitching or
having a different season, that would be the easy answer here, Bill,
But it doesn't see why Dave Roberts is getting that
easy choice.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, I think they still want to save trying and
to be the fireman type and bring him in whenever
the danger is, whether that's the seventh, eighth, or ninth.
H Jack Dryer has been here all season, but he's
still a rookie. I don't know that you want to
go into October relying on a rookie to get the
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last three outs in playoff games.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
He's been very good.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Tanner Scott, are you going with consistency? Are you going
with the guy that you signed to play that.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Role experience in October?
Speaker 7 (06:20):
I think that, Uh, that.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Tips the scales in a lot of ways. Jack drier
Is has been very good. He's been very reliable. I
don't know that he has swing and miss stuff. That's
what you want in October. You don't want guys putting
the ball in play because weird things can happen. Uh.
Tanner Scott when he's right, has swing and miss stuff,
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So you want to get him to that point.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
When you hear Tanner Scott, I don't want to misquote him,
but I think it was baseball hates me right now? Yes,
when you hear that, do you suspect there have been
other guys that have felt that way since July fourth,
when they're twenty four and thirty two. Is that something
that permeates throughout the team at all, or is that
just an individual battle and everybody else is out there
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fighting and not having that mindset.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I think it's an individual thing, but I do think
that individuals get that feeling at times over the course
of the season. I think Mookie Betts felt like baseball
didn't like him for a long time there.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
I think that what we saw Friday. He said that Friday.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Night after the walk off home run, not after the
no hitter, and he looked like a broken man.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
I mean he really did.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Now, you know, how do you stabilize that You've got
to be a competitor and come back the next day
and not, you know, be down in the dumps and
feeling sorry for yourself. But when he said that, I
was My reaction was, oh, no, he's a broken man.
And I asked Dave the next day, do you think
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you have to put him in different situations, you know, less,
less exposure to the high leverage stuff. And they've basically
agreed with me, but then asked the question, what's the alternative?
And out in that group, the alternative the next day
was three rookies Robleski, Enriquez and Dryer closed and closed
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out the Sunday game.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
So how do you use it now? Bill? If you're
going into October, it starts and you got everybody back, right,
you got Bessie back now or you know Kopex coming back?
How do you use that bullpen? And do you have
a you have a constant closer or is it feel
by game? If they're if they're bringing up two three
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lefties in a four you know, batter alignment do you
go with? Do you go back to Tanner Scott or
do you just have a guy or do you just
go by feel? How do you handle the bullpen if
you're going into October with the way that it's been
inconsistent right now?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, I don't think you have designated closers. That's not
the way the Dodgers like to operate at all, but
especially not in October.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
I think you ride the hot hand.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You know, if Blake trying to rolls off a few
outings like last nights, then he becomes the hot hand
and you ride him.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
If Michael Kopek shows you a couple.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
You know times that he's not going to walk the
house when he comes in then I think you ride
him for a while. I think it's very much a
day to day thing. In the postseason, they will have
scouted the heck out of whoever they play against, and
they'll know the matchups they want to get. Whether it's
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right left, whether it's a certain lane in the lineup
where you know we want Michael Kopek to face their
five six and seven hitters, then you're gonna do that.
If five six and seven hitters come up in the
seventh or the ninth, you're gonna you're gonna chase that matchup.
The thing that I think we've learned over the last
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few days with Yamamoto and Glasnow and Kershaw in Baltimore
as well, the starting pitching, like we said, is the
strength of this team. And however far are they going October,
it's gonna it's gonna be the starting pitching that carries them,
and it's just a matter of can the other parts
of the team support them well enough then the bullpen
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not blow it? Can the offense score enough?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Bill plunk It is our guests here from the OSSI
Register on Rogan and Rodney on AM five seventy LA Sports.
Fred Rogan out I'm out of Maslin bill Uh. Tao
has been worse than Michael Conforto over the last month.
People aren't gonna want to hear that. You mentioned kind
of doing it by committee with some of the bullpen guys.
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When Tommy Edmund is back here, which looks imminent. Now,
are we going to see some platooning in the outfield?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
I hope.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
So we've been expecting this and predicting this for a while.
I thought Alex call would would bump Conforto out of
the picture a little bit more than he has. You're right,
Tao has not been very good for a long stretch,
and actually Conforto has been pretty good for a ten
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or twelve game stretch lately. So I do think that
it's time you need to If you're going to reorder it,
you need to do it now and gets you know,
some runway.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Before the postseason.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So I think we're going to see Tommy Edmund in
center field on a pretty regular basis, And that means
Andy pie has, who hasn't been great the last couple
of weeks, either gets bumped to a corner spot, you
get bumped to right field, and Tao goes to left
and Canfordo gets bounced out that way, or does Tao
go staying right and Andy goes to the left, then
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Canfordo loses at bets that way. I just somehow Michael
Confordo needs to be the odd man out in this thing.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, And I don't see how if he's healthy, how
do you keep Tommy Edmunds out of the lineup with
eighteen games left or fifteen or whenever he comes back
to get him ready for October? And I think you're right,
you play him in center field. I happen to think
you move Tayl back to left field. We saw him
make plays last year. He threw a couple guys out
from left field, and it's a little bit easier position
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to play than right. And I see Pat has moving
the right Bill. We talked about the bullpen struggles and
how the strength of this team has been the starting pitching,
but the offense as well. I mean, you mentioned these guys,
and I you know, you got to feel a little
bit for yamamotive because all season long he's not got
any kind of run support when he's been out there.
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I don't know what you can do. I know hopefully
they when they get Monsie back, it's going to be
a difference. Edmond maybe coming back and be a difference.
But the offense has struggled all season long, scoring and
they've struggled against subpar pitching like they did the other
night Bill.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, I don't think that's going to be an issue
in October, though, they're going to be facing good pitching
on a nightly basis. I just think if you looked
at the pretty much everyday lineup, tell me who's having
an above average season for their standards. I don't think
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anybody is. Will Smith, Yeah, Tommy's down from his crazy
season last year that somebody wrote a book about. Amazon
is probably having a Freddie season, you know, but he
struggled for a while too. Everybody else is down, so
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the offense as a whole is down. So it becomes,
you know, you hate to say, flip the switch in October,
but I think these guys, any team is capable of
flipping the switch when October starts.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
It's these guys.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
You know, they're playoff tested, they've done it. I just
think that's what they're counting on.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
How about that Santotani's down, He's about the fifty plus
home runs this year again.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
The standard is high.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Probably win the MVP again.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, when you're the modern day bay Ruth, the standard
is very high. Bill the last.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
One for me.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Max Mountsey has made a material and statistical difference the
last couple of years. When he's in the lineup, they
look like a different team. How much could that give
them a shot in the arm down the stretch here
in the last three weeks.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
The Max months the effect, I've given it a name.
I'm going to go with that. He just has a
trickle domino effect on the rest of the lineup. You
know you could you could even see it already. Yesterday
Sunday in Baltimore, Michael Conforto batted clean up yesterday he
was batt in seventh. You know, you slip my Max
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Munsey back in there. Tell me Edmund comes back, you
slip him back in there. The lineup starts to lengthen
the way it was supposed to look all season long.
So yeah, he's he's a big piece, more so than
his numbers indicate, just because of the kind of a
bats he has. I asked him to explain the Max
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Monthy effect, and he said he just thinks that he
allows everybody else in the lineup.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
To be themselves. So yeah, you slip him.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Back in and it does make a big difference.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, Bill, before we let you go, also listen the
way the Dodgers are going way it looks right now,
if it were to end right now, they'd be the
third seed. They'd have to play that three game wildcard playoff,
which is you know, no bod he wants to play
that series. It looks like it could be the Mets,
the Padres, or the Cubs. Of those three teams, who
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would you say that Dodgers probably wouldn't want to face.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
They probably wouldn't want to face the Padres. I would
love to watch them face the Padres because those are
great series and it's just a different level of baseball
when those two teams get together. The Padres are reeling
right now. I mean, they would be in first place
if they had just played decent over the last couple
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of weeks, but they haven't been able to and they've
lost bodies. The Mets they're pitching is a real question
mark because they're going with so many young guys. I'm
not sure what that would look like. And the Cubs,
other than Tokyo the Cubs own the Dodgers this season,
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so maybe that's the matchup they don't want.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. Well, hopefully everything gets turned around.
They can't flip that switch. Bill Plunkett, Oh see Register
joined US stick. Thanks a lot, Bill, appreciate always good stuff.
And I'm sorry you can get the boring stories from
Fred today.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Hell to the no, he said.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I can't wait to hear what he brings back, you know,
from being an umpire at the tennis tournaments wherever he is.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I think he was a ball boy at the US
opening the finals, so that's oh was he?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
I didn't notice.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I didn't notice running across he was shagging.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Thanks a lot, Bill, There he goes Bill Plunkert or
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Eight six six nine eighty seven two five seventy. If
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us last time, Please call in and tell us your
thoughts about what the Dodgers should do on the back
end with the bullpen. Adam Austlin and for Fred Rogan,
Rodney Pete, AM five to seventy LA Sports.
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Speaker 1 (18:30):
Come on, let's go on a Tuesday, Rodney Pete, Adam Auslin. Yes,
always good to be with you, double a man. We
here always bring it, brother, I love it.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I appreciate you having me as always. Fred appreciates you
being out as always.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Ah, well, we said it, and many thanks to Bill Plunkt.
He always brings the insight and also brings the humor
from time to time. Adam, we love that, brings his
book from Amazon as well. Don't forget that, Oh Tony,
don't forget that.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
We did have technical issues earlier, and we apologize for that.
So we opened up the phone lines again eight six
six nine, seven five seventy and we're gonna take them calls.
Let's take them calls on. And remember we're talking about
the bullpen. We're talking about the bullpen and what you
think the bullpen should be. Should they change it up,
should they shuffle it? That is the topic. We try
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not to get on too many tangents here, so it's
just try to sign a lot of calls. That's not
a lot of calls. So we gotta we gotta keep
it short and we got to keep it specific, all right,
So who's up. Let's go. Michael in Riverside. Michael in Riverside,
you know an eight and five to seventy LA sports Michael,
talk to me, Hey.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Rodney, I think that Tanner Scott is just having a
problem living up to that contract. As you've seen many
ballplayers have that issue, and the second year is much better.
I think if you're dropped him down to a set
up guy or something of that nature and let Colpek
be your closer, I think that would be a much
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better decision by save Roberts to make.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
What do you think it makes sense in some ways
to give him a little bit more of a runway
to get back to the picture that he was, to
put him in less high leverage situations right now because
Tanner Scott's struggling so much. You said the same thing earlier, Rodney,
I do think that's an option.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, I appreciate the call, Michael, and it might be
there's something to that that guys and I think it's
more and you you got to double that. When you
get a big contract, there's obviously pressure on you because
that's what you've been playing for all your whole careers.
I got to get that big deal, my second contra
or third contract, that big I finally got it. Now
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you think you can, you can relax, but actually there's
more pressure on you. You got to live up to
it because you got to live up to it, and
the fans expect you to live up to it. And
then you throw the dodge or uniform on top of
it and it becomes double. And I think he's feeling
that a little bit and felt that a little bit
this season. So hope he can right the ship. And
I do believe they keep trotting him out there, but
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not in high leverage situations.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
The only thing is Michael Kopek has pitched pitched twice
since June. Yeah, you know, Dave Roberts is in a
tough spot. He hasn't had guys healthy.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
The Kopak was good for you last year, so I
think you got to try to keep them going. All right,
let's go Chris in La Chris on five seventy LA Sports.
What do you think they should do in the back
end with the bullpen?
Speaker 10 (21:24):
Hey, gentlemen, I think they have to go with the
younger guys as the closers, because basically, Dave Robertson is
experiencing Einstein's theory of insanity by trotting Tanner Scott out
there and trying it every time and expecting something different.
And it's funny as they're making history right now.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
It's amazing.
Speaker 10 (21:43):
Tanner Scott's last three appearances have been blown saves, blown
with home runs in there, So I don't think there's
no way you keep him in as that as the closer.
And what Trident scares me because he has such video
game movement, but if players aren't swinging at it, then
they become just walks. So you have two people in
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there who clearly are not effective, So you have to
go with some of the younger guys. But for some reason, Dave,
this kid's kind of sticking with when you.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Say younger guy, who name who it is? Who do
you Doryer.
Speaker 10 (22:20):
Robleski exactly exactly? They're young? But there we know what
we're getting with trying and Tanner Scott, and that's not working.
So who cares about the age and experience? Go with
who gives you the better chance. I think the younger
guys give you a better chance. Last question, you guys,
did we even make a mistake by not trying to
add to that or we just stuck with who we
who we got with the big contract with Tanner Scott.
Speaker 11 (22:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Thanks for the call, Chris, I appreciate it. Listen, I
don't know anybody anybody in this country or the next
country that didn't believe the Dodgers won the offseason. And
they didn't believe that what they did with Tanner Scott,
Kirby Yates, Blake Snell, all all those guys that they
signed to bolster the pitching staff. They knew they could
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not make a living and win a World Series through
bullpen games like they did a year ago.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And the point of that was to not wait till
the trade deadline to make those moves. Why not have
them going into the season, and as you mentioned, everybody
praised it at the time. Absolutely, Now did you need
to pivot because things weren't working and they didn't do
enough of the trade deadline, I'm open to hearing that.
But the truth is, Tanner Scott, one form or another
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has to be a part of this team in the
postseason for them to ultimately have success. Doesn't mean he
has to be the closer, but he's going to have
to help them somewhere.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, he's you know, that powerful left handed arm coming
out of the bullpen. You got to use him at
some in some capacity. And the thing on Blake trying
and I know, you know had he's been a little
shaky since he's come back, But this is the guy
that delivered for you. Yeah, he's got the experience. He's
delivered for you, He delivered for you last year. He
is definitely a guy I'm not giving up on. Eric
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in Marino Valley you on five seventy LA Sports Eric
talk to.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
Us, Hey, Adam, Hey Ronnie.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Hey.
Speaker 12 (24:08):
First of all, I just want to say, stop with
the Dave Roberts playing game. It's not his fall. He's
got to give Panner Scott a chance.
Speaker 13 (24:17):
To work it out.
Speaker 12 (24:18):
I mean, the Padres are affording us that to let him,
you know, get out there and find his confidence. But
I don't think I think his confidence is gone for
this year. He is a great pitcher, and great pitchers
just don't suck all of a sudden.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
He's gonna do great.
Speaker 12 (24:34):
Maybe next year we got to use Tanner Scott in
like that Honeywell role that he was in last year.
We gotta go with Bonda. I think Bonda is quietly
having a good year. Roblesky go with the young guys,
and maybe Dave Roberts goes with his gut a little
bit like he did with trying him last year in
the postseason and bringing up Bobby Miller. Let's see what
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he's got.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Oh okay, thank you very much, Eric, I appreciate that. Yeah, Bobby,
I don't know if Bobby Miller is going to be
an option I and I loved him too when he
came up. I love Bobby. I thought he had a
bright future with the Dodger and still Mike Bobby Ice.
But he had, you know, had the injury and just
hasn't been the same since he came back from that injury.
It'd be interesting It'll be interesting to see what they
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do with Suzaki, you know, if he even makes the roster. Yeah,
you know, he's a guy that's got electric stuff. But
do you trust putting him into the bullpen where he
can be erratic? And he was erratic as a starter,
and you don't know if he can throw strikes and
then and you know in the playoffs, you come out
of the bullpen. You got to be able to throw strikes.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, And to bring him back and then put him
in an unfamiliar role, that's a little bit concerning. We
should at least mention. I guess Alex Vesi is coming back.
So there's a little bit of cow on the Western guy. Yeah,
it's coming back. And I do like Bonda. I think
Bonda has done a fabulous job. He Now, he had
a skit a little bit where I think he was overworked,
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to be honest with you, But I think down the
stretch and when you get into the playoffs, he got
enough experience this year that I think he's going to
be a good situational guy to come in.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Let's go Steve, Steve and Burbank. Uh you want to
let Tanner Scott close still? Huh?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
No, Oh Tanner Son Tanner is a thrower, not a closer.
What he throws strikes right down the middle. He doesn't.
He doesn't confuse the batters. It's forcing fastball. It's a
simple pitch to hit because he throws ninety miles an hour.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Well, he had multiple years where he was confusing batters.
He hasn't been.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
This year he.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Yeah, and this year he hasn't. And that's what's happened
is that these closers for the Dodgers became throwers not pitchers.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
And that's the difference between like.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Kershaw, who throws eighty nine miles an hour and throws
a seventy two miles curveball, compared to the closers who
come in and just try to throw it by everyone
and the pitch is know what pitch is coming. When
Trina comes in, there's three. He throws three sliders in
a row every single time, and then he throws it
up and in fastball, it's like it's textbook.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
How many closers in this league are not throwing hard
stuff though that tends to be a trait of a closer.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
That's pretty hard throw He throws ninety eight miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Again, you're saying he's representative of all closers because he's
getting lit up this year. We know most closers are
throwing gas.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
What I'm saying is, you could throw gas all you
want when everyone sees one hundred miles an hour nowadays,
But if you can't pitch, which means hit your locations
and hit your spots, which I know Roddy knows this
from playing football. If you you can, you could be
a thrower. Doesn't mean you have to have an eighty
throw the ball eighty miles now, and that's been a
problem with You have to be able to be a player.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Well, well, that's been the problem with Tanner Scott this
year is that he's not hit his location. And that's
the big thing, you know, it's and as Adam mentioned,
he is he was lights out the last couple of years,
which is why the Dodgers signed him to the big contract.
He just hasn't found that. And oftentimes, when you're struggling,
you sometimes go back to and revert back to what
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you think is your best pitch, and for him, it
has been that fastball. He's just not been able to
locate it in the spots that he wants to this year,
So he's struggling. I don't I'm I'm with you. I
don't know if I leave him in as a closer.
So thank you for the calls. You appreciate it. Oh,
let's go. Uh Gino Gino from Virginia. He likes Blake
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trying over Scott. Gino. Talk to me.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
What's up, Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
What's happening for day out here in northern Virginia having
a fire with my wife outdoors?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
As we were in Baltimore Sunday and they took Kershaw
out that most of the Dodger fans say no Scott,
no Scott.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
That turns you a lot right there. But Scott maybe
in uh three runs ahead, four runs ahead, not two runs? Yeah,
I still like trying. I'll give tran a Scott a
chance way over Scott.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I think Scott lost his job or he should.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Look, it's reasonable to say he should no longer be
the closer, But for people saying he should no longer
pitch for the Dodgers, that's just unrealistic. They're going to
use him somewhere. Money plays and they're still chasing that
live arm that we saw the last two seasons from
him and some of these pitches. The reason he said
baseball hates me right now is because he feels like
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he actually has made some good pitches that have been hit,
like the one last night that went for a double
that was way out of the zone.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
So he's had some rough luck and.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
It's been bad luck. It really has been bad luck
for him, but he's also admitted that he hasn't pitched well.
So Gino in Virginia, hang out with your wife, man,
enjoy the fire, appreciate it, thanks it, you got it. Uh,
let's go, uh, Sonny, Sonny and coast to make coast
to Mesa. Sonny, what's going on? Who do you think
should close? And what do you think they should do
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with the bullpit?
Speaker 14 (30:14):
How you doing Fellas you know, I've been kind of
advocating for Enriquez to get some more run and leverage.
I think it was the outing and against Cincinnati a
couple of weeks ago he was really able to, you know,
use his secondary and hit his spots and that really
gave me some promise. But at the end of the day,
anyone you use you gotta hit your spots, get hit
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your location stuff. So yeah, I don't know, and you
got dude coming back soon hopefully, and then who knows,
maybe even Kyle Hurt down the stretch.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I know it feels like we're grasping straws right now.
The Sundy man. Thanks for the call. But yeah, I know,
I like I like Henriquez, I like it. I think
he's a good young arm. He's got a live arm.
I just don't know if he hasn't of experience. And
we just talked to Bill Plunkett about that. And I'm
sure a lot of the guys will say this, like
as you get into September, and I know, everybody falls
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in love with the young guys, and yeah, Sonny, thanks
for the call. Uh, everybody gets falls in love with
the young guys. But when you get into like that
pressure cooker and that pressure situation in October, you want
to go with some guys that have been there a
little bit before, well, especially in a high, high leverage situation,
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Like I'm not throwing to a rookie in the first
playoff game. I'm throwing to Steve Smith and Moose Mahamed
in Carolina. You know what I'm saying. I'm all like
that on a regular basis, So I get it. The
young guys have been impressive, but it's a different it's
a different ballgame when you get to October.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
That's kind of what the problem is for Dave Roberts.
The guys with experience are having bad years. The rookies
with inexperience that you are concerned about are having the
good years. But is it going to translate to the
postseason because they don't have a track record there. That's
the issue.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, and that's a that's a tough call. But as
a veteran manager now with Dave Roberts, I can feel
where he's leading to. He's gonna lean to his guys
that have been there and the veterans that that have
been there before. And look, we're talking all of this,
and yet the Dodgers are still in first place, which
is unbelievable. Feels like they're in last place right now. Uh, Rudy,
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Rudy in La, Rudy, Let's go, man, talk to me.
Hi ready, Hey, Rudy, Yeah, we got you, Rudy. Tell
me something I don't.
Speaker 15 (32:38):
I didn't think there, I was there on Saturday in
Baltimore and I almost crying. Let me see his home.
I think that thenis cars should be probably is set
up man.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
I don't think. I know, he's a good picture.
Speaker 15 (32:51):
I don't think he should lose his job, but I
really think they should use him in another role like
baby set up man.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
He's a good picture, and I maybe.
Speaker 15 (32:59):
Use or why not try Bucky Sage. You never know
why you can bring to the table.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, no, I can't. I appreciate it, Rudy, Thanks for
the call. Now I get it. In some years, you know,
every year is different at him. You know this. You've
been covering sports and been around sports for a long time.
You know, just because the guy's done it in the
passes and he's going to do it the next year
and the next year and the next year. You hope
that there's consistency. The guys are going to have some
ups and downs, and you know, for whatever reason, there's
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certain guys that get hot and there's certain guys that
get cold in moments, and right now, Tanner Scott is
having one of those things. And it could be for
a variety of different reasons. I think some of it
is the big contract and also playing for the Dodgers.
I don't even I don't know if he's playing for
the Mariners or if he's playing for the Reds. Does
he have these kind of struggles.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
The expectations are they're the most loaded team we've seen
in the modern era, and they're supposed to win the
World Series. They're the new Yankees. Now, now you can
just look to last season with what happened with Blake
Trining and say, even though there's only three weeks left,
there is still enough time for David Right to let
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things shake out a little bit and see what he
can find with these guys that have all this experience
but haven't been pitching like themselves. If one of these
guys gets hot, now he's gonna lean on them more
and feel more comfortable closing with them in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
And remember, there was a moment that Alex Vesia was
struggling so bad if people were like, why are we
putting Vessia back in the game. He can't get anybody out,
and he turned out to be one of the most
consistent guys. So it can turn around, all right. A
couple more Jason, Jason and Santa Clarita. You say no
more Tannis Scott.
Speaker 13 (34:43):
Huh no, Man, he's the mole from San Diego. Man,
I wouldn't have I wouldn't let him close anymore. He
in not conforto. He's a comforted to the mole from
San Francisco. RBS has to go with the with the
hand who's hot? You know, trying in dryer?
Speaker 14 (34:59):
Nah?
Speaker 13 (35:00):
Got man, he's the mole.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Okay, wait a second, blake trying it has not been hot.
He had a good outing yesterday, but he was also
part of the problem over the weekend. He's running out
of options.
Speaker 13 (35:09):
Came back fromn injury too. But he's came back from injury.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Sure, So does he have a hot hand or is
he just getting back into a group.
Speaker 13 (35:17):
He has a better he has a better history of
the Dodgers.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
Man.
Speaker 13 (35:20):
Yeah, he's earned that respect. Scott hasn't.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Man, they're paying money.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
What do you do with Scott? What do do you do?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
You?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I get it, you don't want him to close? Do
you still use him at all?
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Well?
Speaker 13 (35:33):
I mean you paid for him, so you gotta use
him somehow, right, So if you have more than a
four run lead to start using them. Seven ny and
eighth inning but none in the ninth. That's too maybe matchup.
It's it's like, you know, seven to eighth ninth batters
then yeah, but when your top four to five batters,
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I got you, Rodney. I got to think, thanks Jason
for the call. Man, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Dave Roberts, pitching coaches, the analytics department, they're seeing something
on paper that gives them hope Tanner Scott to keep
putting him out there, that his stuff isn't as bad.
It's been getting hit, but he's had just like last
night and that double, he's had some tough luck out there,
and they're expecting it to turn his favor eventually.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah. I think they're playing absolutely. The law of average
is like, this guy's been better than he's been bad. Yeah, right,
so at some point it is going to get to
a point where he starts to find himself and maybe
it is no more high leverage situations until we get
to October, and then you try to figure it out
when you may you know, maybe absolutely need him, but
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let him get back to some confidence by putting him in.
I agree with that. In the seventh, maybe sixth or
eighth Inny, not not as a closer situation, even though
that's what you brought him in to do. Maybe you
just start working him back in that way. All right,
our god, let's bring him in. Let's bring him in. Adam,
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your guy from New Jersey, our man, Mitch, Mitch, what
is going on?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
He thinks this is a clipperstock.
Speaker 11 (37:08):
How's it going, Ronnie?
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Adam?
Speaker 5 (37:10):
How you do?
Speaker 13 (37:10):
And I hope it's peace.
Speaker 11 (37:11):
You know, it's forgive, forgive, But you're a busy guy.
When you're young, you don't care about Anything's great, good
for you.
Speaker 13 (37:17):
But go ahead, he's good.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
What what did you just say, Mitch?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
World to decipher that?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Mitch, are you on the road right now? Are you
on the road right now?
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Driving?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
What are you doing?
Speaker 5 (37:32):
I'm not driving? I retire.
Speaker 11 (37:34):
I'm I was trying to give him. I was trying
to give you a compliment. The piece I know we
had a running uh, I tell him on the rembers,
that's my fourth yours.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I accept, No, I accept the compliment. I appreciate it. Mitch.
Go on, what's your taker here on the Dodgers.
Speaker 13 (37:51):
Key cannon?
Speaker 11 (37:52):
Maybe turn around. It's still some time. But I said,
when I put us up the cabin. We're not bringing
out We're gonna have more stars than we for the playoff.
How about one of the stars gets into eighth, maybe ninth,
then if he still has the sixth. That's just my take.
Speaker 13 (38:08):
Stay plessed.
Speaker 11 (38:09):
Everything's good. They stay all right.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Mitch my man from Jersey appreciated Mitch always always a
pleasure man. Thank you all for the calls. This has
been good. You know still, Adam, I think, uh, eighteen
games left, you gotta find out who And we haven't
even really touched on Kirby Yates.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
No, because he's been lit up so much. People don't
even want to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I want to talk. He was the other but he
was the other offseason acquisition that they were counting on
in the back end to be a guy that could
be a stopper. So, I mean again, they still have
a plethora of guys that they can trot out there,
and I think they still will through these eighteen games.
Do you believe they got any chance to catch the
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Phillies and get that second seed in the National League.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Honestly, they still more series with them, four games back
from them now they still play three against them, But
they got seven against the Giants. There's a better chance, unfortunately,
that they lose the division then they catch the Phillies
for the two seed. Right now, interesting, just realistically, mathematically,
there's a better chance of that. I think that's going
to be really difficult. But the silver lining could be
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that the Dodgers right now have put themselves in a
position where they're going to be in high leverage situations
the last eighteen games, and they are meaningful. Therefore, they
can be a little bit more battle tested moving forward.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Plus we've seen that in the past where they've had
such a lead right where they played no meaningful games
in September and then they went into the October playoffs
being cold, and they lost to Arizona and they'd lost
to San Diego. So maybe this is a blessing in disguise.
All right, My man Adam came in. He said he'd
be remiss not to bring up.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
USC in their first two wins.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
And what that actually means and doesn't mean anything, So
I have to oblige him, and and let's talk about
that when we come back. Adam Austlin and Fred Rogan
am five seventy LA Sports.
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Speaker 1 (40:31):
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Speaker 2 (40:48):
Coming, even mentioning your jes even Jersey Mitch.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
We got a couple of calls from Virginia too, So
people are all over the world. All right, Adam, Week
two not only and well in college football Week two
coming up in the NFL, but we two in college football.
We've seen some things around the country and still kind
of feeling our way through with the teams that everybody
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thought were going to be at the top of the
Ohio States.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Texas, how you doing Florida Gators.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
How the Gators doing, Yeah, all of that, all of that,
but let's focus on our two local teams.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
You know, you had to be in the hot seat
a lot the last two days, Rodney.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I feel like, I know, I know, I come at it,
come with it, come with it now.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I know the Trojans have put up one hundred and
thirty points in the first two games, But I firmly
am in the camp of it matters who you play,
It matters how you play and who you beat. I
know some people like to say a win is a win,
but I'm not sure what to make of the Trojans
right now because they beat who Missouri State and Georgia
Southern with Clay Helton, they beat them up, they handled them.
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But I need to see more because coming into this
season we were just talking about it off air. I've
never seen the expectations lower for the USC Trojans. Is
that accurate because it felt it felt like that hanging
into the season.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah it, yeah, I think deep down with with with
Trojan fans, there's always that anticipation if this is year
we're gonna turn it around. That's just the attitude, and
you feel like Okay, this could be one of those years,
but you don't. You're going into it hoping, not knowing,
like you know there were obviously we know the years
of Pete Carroll and all that, where you knew Wire
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to Wire sc was gonna be number one and in
the mix. Right now, it's still wait and see how
this happens. And I think because you know, Lincoln Riley
came in with such a bang right coming from Oklahoma
the way they they brought him in, and you know,
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the night after Oklahoma lost and we're out of the playoffs,
they signed him and he came, he was here the
next day for the big press conference, and then what
two weeks later we found out Haleb Williams was coming
with him. You know, they have the big first year,
Caleb wins the Heisman Trophy, they have a shot at
going to UH to the playoffs, and and it looked
very its like, okay, we got the right guy, and
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here we go again to start a new era that
the USC will be in the mix year in and
year out. And then they've taken a step back the
last couple of years, so the excitement is not there
where it should be. And it still remains to be seen.
What what happens to this team? Now, look, I get it,
they haven't played anybody yet, you know, Georgia, Southern, Missouri State. No,
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they they haven't played anybody.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
They style though, they've all style point.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
But yes, they've they've looked the part. If you don't
know who they're playing and you just watch them, it
looks pretty good. But now they're going to start playing
and you know, and it's the Big Ten is a
different animal than the Pac twelve was right, because the
Big Ten, everybody thinks it's Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State,
and that's it. Where in essence in the Big Ten
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this year, Illinois is pretty good. Illinois ranked ninth.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
And they gotta go there, and got to go there in.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
A couple of weeks. Indiana is a good football team
and well coached football team. Now Wisconsin's always tough, as
you know, so it is going to be a battle
and we're gonna figure out what us he is here
in a couple of weeks. I mean, they got they
got Purdue coming up, and they should beat Purdue. They
go on the road and beat Purdue. This will be
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the first time and they're on the road, and oftentimes
you kind of figure out what your team is about
the first time they go on the road. So they're
gonna go on a road and then they come back
and play Michigan State. The game that I've got, you know,
pinned in and it's a two weeks in a row
is when they play, it's really three weeks in a row.
It's gonna really be the tale of the USC season.
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They go back to play Illinois, as you mentioned, who
are ranked ninth and rolling right now, and a lot
of people will pick them to be a playoff team.
It's not gonna be an easy task. They're gonna be
ready for us He coming in. I don't care, you
know what US's record is. It's kind of like I
want to you know, don't hate me UCLA fans, but
it is. It's kind of like the Dodgers or Notre
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Dame or anybody else going in when us He comes
to town. There's a different level of energy that the
other teams have that we want to beat us He.
The reputation Presizon, absolutely absolutely, so Illinois is gonna be
ready to play. Their fan base is gonna be crazy.
It might be if USC is undefeated going into that game,
I'm sure that it's going to be a game day
or a big noon Sunday is gonna be there getting
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ready for that game. So it's gonna be a big deal.
Then they come back and they play Michigan at home,
it's going to be a big deal. I don't you know,
I know Michigan. Everybody's kind of on the fence about Michigan.
They're they're not the team they were. They got it,
they got some rebuilding to do, but it's still Michigan
two years from winning the national title. Michigan. So coming
into the coming into the Coliseum is going to be
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a big, big game for USC to to prove that
they're worthy of the Big Ten and being.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Here old school Rose Bowl matches absolutely, and then they
go to Notre Dame after that. So there's a three
week stretch, three week stretch for USC that's really going
to tell you know who this team is and if obviously,
if they if they win all three, it's it's there.
Now they're in the conversation for the playoffs and all
that kind of stuff. But if they go two out
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of three, I consider that a win USC.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
You know, do you think.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
The knock on them has been they're not physical enough
under Lincoln Riley. Have they addressed that? Have you seen
anything differently in these first two games, even against inferior
competition that makes you believe they might they might have
improved in some of those eras.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah, on paper, they have addressed it. They've they've made
an inferensis for it, and it showed in the in
the first because you've seen the defense fly around. I means,
as pressive as the offense has been scoring points, the
defense has been just as impressive of not allowing points
and getting turnovers. So it's been impressive. But again, they've
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not really played anybody, and we're not going to know that.
I think Michigan State is you know, they're not Ohio State,
they're not Illinois, but they are a physical team. They're
going to be a physical team coming in here. So
we'll learn a lot more when they played Michigan State.
But it is that gauntlet that they're going to go
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through to figure out if they can hold up defensively
against teams. I mean, people forget last year it took
everything for Penn State to beat them and some humongous
plays by that crazy tight end from Penn State, who's
now in the NFL for them to beat. Let's see
out here last year and sc had Notre Dame on
the ropes and through the pick six going in at
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the five yard line right before they were getting ready
to take the lead in that game in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
So they had some of the worst losses in college football.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Absolutely, So they were right there. And with another year,
you know, under his belt, I think they're gonna be okay.
We're gonna be okay. So we will see. I appreciate
you bringing that up at him.
Speaker 16 (48:11):
I really hey, I'm just checking in getting the temperature
from we'll find out. All right, let's go jump to
the NFL when we come back. That's right, let's jump
to the NFL. Our Man, Vinnie Bonsignor is gonna join
us on the other side of the talk. Week one
in the NFL. A lot of storylines happening, and uh,
it's gonna be exciting the NFL season.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Let's get into it. Adam Austlin Rodney Pete AM five
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