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January 16, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Let me know when you're ready.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I bet that's a good start.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
This is Tanner, Drew and Laura's Donkey Show, Donkey Show.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
What's Up, kiddos. Thank you checking out Tanner to and
Laura's Donkey Show podcast, Oh Turn the Music, don't too
earlier Heard online on one of five nine, the dot Com,
the iHeartRadio, Apple or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm here,
Drew's here, Laura's here, Buster as Marcus is joining us
and Court should be joining us in just a few moments.

(00:37):
There was a lot of stuff we did not talk
about on the show to there. I always I always
overprep and we never get to half the things we
like want to talk about.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
Mm hm.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
But there's a couple of things we missed today, Like
experts warn that bluetooth sex toys our prime target for hackers.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I didn't even know that bluetooth sex toys were a thing.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, everything's bluetooth these days. Like it's so frustrating. I
tried to can to my printer to my cell phone yesterday. Yeah,
and everything's got an app. Yeah, you have to download
an app to do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's really annoying too, because I feel like most of
the time, you download the app once to set up
whatever piece of tech, and then it just sits on
your phone and.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
You never get you never use it again to stop,
and then I have like no space because I have
that stupid fucking app for one thing that I did
a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Right, you've got the HP printer app on your son
taking awast.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
It's annoying. And so yeah, they say that those sex
toys can be hacked.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Now if you hacked into somebody's vibrator, right, and you know,
say you could tell that this Bluetooth vibrator was on
and it's like three blocks from your house. Now, I
don't know how to hack, but it would be tempting
not to turn that bad boy to fourteen and about
what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, just crank the power all the way up.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You just hear you just hear your neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
There's barking starts to come from down the road, especially
if it's got a speaker and you could talk to
him through it.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, you may have changed that person's lap. You're all, hey,
book up buster.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
I don't know why sex toys need to be Bluetooth compatible.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Thing, Like what is the the button is in your hand.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I think it's because they don't want to make controllers anymore,
and so they just they say, download our app and
you can, like I buy these things called GOV lights
g O v.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
E E Lights and you got to use your phone.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
And it's for like ambient lighting. And yeah, but that's fine.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
You can do that across the room. Like what are
you doing with a sex toy that's sitting across the room.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Like the cow toongue that I the vibrating cowtongue that
I saw at the adult store on eighty second and Division.
I can't remember the name of that place. What's the
name of that place?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Court?

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Oh called uh dry bite all the time?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Taboo.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
It's taboo.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
There's a taboo on Sandy too.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
So when I walked in there, like there's me and
my bun bunch of my friends walked in there when
we were seniors high school, and nobody carded this. And
I saw on the counter a robotic cow tongue and
how to remote control. I think that is expensive to make,
And so they just say, get this app, download it.
And so if you've got that thing inserted in your
balloe knot or whatever. You can just change the powers
on your phone.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I mean that tongue, okay, the room because I'm thinking
of just like strictly vibrators, which would be hand held,
so like what's the point of having a remote, But
I guess for things like.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
That, but you should be right there unless you're controlling
it on another individual, which is fine if that's your deal.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
I think that's really cool.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
If they don't have like say it is a vibrator
or like a you know that type of a tool,
it is more accessible to touch the actual thing if
you're the female.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
I think that's what it is for, though I think
it is for like somebody else to control it.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Second, yeah, I want to do that.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
So like you could be out to dinner and you're like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Right, what does it?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Does it work well enough? Where like she could go
to her job, I could go to mine, and I
could think.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I think there are things that you can do.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
I'm buying that me and my partner are doing that
wouldn't be bluetooth right because it would be out of range.
But there are apps like that where you can mess
with so and and by the way, I am far
too childsh for something like this. If my wife gave
me the remote control of something that she had going on,
I would be just like Drew was talking about earlier,
just fourteen zero fourteen zero, Like I'm the guy. Yeah,

(04:14):
it sounds so much because I think about the way
I play video games. It's like I kind of just
feel my way out, Like I'm gonna shoot this guy
and see what happens.

Speaker 7 (04:21):
I gotta start over.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Marcus is pray and spray.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, and that's this is what and that's what will
happen if you leave it on fourteen.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Oh my ga.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
So I'm gonna get that whenever that you know.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's also an interesting niche thing if you're the person
is doing it to somebody at a restaurant, like it
together and an Olive Garden is blow a load under
the table. I don't know, to each it would.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Be so fun to trying to like she's trying to
let you like we're at a dinner or something with
friends and she's trying to keep it together and I'm over.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
There just yeah, just trying to order another drink. And
this is nobody knows what's going on with it.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
You gotta be hanging with a real team player. That game, ma'am,
I think you've had too much? Are you wasted? I've
had zero drinks, but I'm just locked on fees.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, you just keep spilling them aft.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, there's a speed that actually squirrels your mind.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Let's see what else are we're not talking about today. Oh,
this is, I guess, kind of interesting. And honestly, we
have to be careful because I just read that an
airline has asked the FAA to start limiting drinks at
the airport.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
And when you read things like this, it's gonna fucking happen.
I've been saying it for years. The more you ass
out on these airplanes people, they're gonna you're gonna ruin
it for everybody. They're not gonna serve booze anymore. They're
gonna give us limits.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I also feel like even though rules don't apply at
the airport, everyone knows that. You know, like you can
start drinking at five am and nobody you know, looks
at you twice. But I mean, you have to start
treating your bar patrons like you would at any other
bar location, because you're the ones who are screwing it up.

(05:57):
It's not the people who are getting completely hammered on
the plane. It's the people who get to the airport
two hours early, get completely ship faced and then get
on the plane.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
You know what I mean, fell attacked, full attacked.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I mean, we all do it right, but it's like
it's you're right, it's they're going to ruin it for all.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
I don't like to be drunk on a plane though, like.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
And wasted.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, last time I went to Disneyland, I showed up
like three hours early because you were so paranoid, so paranoid,
I showed up so early that they didn't even have
the flight information, wasn't on the board, on the digital
board yet, like nobody was there. And so I went
to Henry's, that little bar at the airport.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
And I hammered.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Didn't you get the spins.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
I sat down on that plane and I was spinning
so bad hand on the ground. I was just trying
to keep it together, so I didn't I didn't vomit,
but I thought I was going to fill that whole
bag up.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
But then by the time you land, you're wheeling shitty
because I.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Was sort of drink again.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
That's why on that you have to be just short.
You have to be able to still have a drink
on the plane and not be too wasted, because if
you've got all those hours or it's just like anything
with alcohol, it's like you gotta stay up or you're
gonna fall off the back end. But it's it's gonna
be much more if, like Tanner's warning over here, that
they're gonna take away our right to get wasted, they'll

(07:12):
be able to do it easily, especially gonna do what
they do at a at like a family Fund zone,
where if you are at the airport, you're gonna have
a drink card and at all facilities you get three
or you can get two Chucky cheese rules and one
beer asle uh huh, and you'll be wearing a bracelet
that's getting clipped, and you're not gonna be able to
have a beer and a shot, and a beer and

(07:32):
a shot. When you read headlines like this that's coming
the United passenger has been fined ten thousand dollars for
relieving himself in a seat mid flight after mixing xanax
and alcohol. Sounds like, Laura, Okay, you did pee a seat.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
You have nobody of that. She She actually got out
of there before she told me, buddy, somebody sat in
that wet seat.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Later, to be fair, I didn't pee in the seat.
I peed in the aisle and then I sat down
and got pee all over the seat.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
But the flight knew you peed your pants.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yes, And I thought about this after the fact. I'm
sure they didn't clean that seat.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
No, they don't.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I'm sure they didn't even think of because I didn't.
I didn't even think about it.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
They come in and they pick up some of the
trash and the peanuts people dropped on the floor.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
And by the time we landed it was dry.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Because Fat Foor used to clean airplanes and I'm pretty
sure he confirmed that they don't switch out the seat.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
And that was pre pandemic too, so I'm sure it
was even dirty.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
So this guy's name Zachary Greer. He's thirty four years old,
and he was slapped at the ten thousand dollars fine
for urinating in the seat from Amsterdam to America.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Oh that's a long flight too.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
It is massive.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
They had to force the captain to dump more than
thirty thousand dollars worth of jet fuel to divert the
plane to Dublin.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Tucking.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
I mean the seat's already peed. Let him sit in it.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
It is interesting that they went so far out of
their way to land the plate Like that's I feel
like it's not an emergence.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Especially those planes.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
That's no Horizon Air, that's a massive jet line.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
His seat, he has to sit in it. It's his fault.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I would I would beg as another passenger that I'm fine.
I think we're all fine. Raise the hands. Who wants
to keep going?

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess so. If you're sitting right
next to them or behind her, in front of him,
and like, let's say he's dehydrated, he's got dehydrated dirty urine,
you smell it, so.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Okay, then like grab a lifestyle wipe, have him clean
off this seat.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
And I do think it's I think you should clean
it in front of all of you.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah, dumping thirty thousand dollars worth of jet.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Like, still charge him ten thousand dollars or whatever for
just being a dickhead. But I don't think you need
to divert the plane and then.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Charge him for the jet fuel or whatever.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
Yeah, a lot of those international flights are pretty stinky anyhow,
because you're on the plane for a long time. So
there's a lot of body odor going on, and so.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's from all over the world, and I was different.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
It is culturally. We are not all cut from the
same cloth when it comes to who is okay with
what smell? It smells like everything from feet to be
out to curry to butt.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yeah, so throw a little throw a little pe in there,
that's fine.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I would have zero problems.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
I'll take the p over the curry. Yeah. And the curry.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
You're like, how is no one having curry on here, dude?
And you smell of curry?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Sir?

Speaker 4 (10:15):
This sh it is so bad. When I went to
Vegas last Christmas, the people in my room, I guess
we're making it in the room or something.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Doubt they were making it. I feel like, well, it's probably.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
That fucking smell didn't go away for the entire time
I was there, and I never got used to it,
you know how sometimes you get used to smells. Nope,
And I would love to have gone nose blind.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I wouldn't put it past that they cooked it in there,
because I've told when Tanner mentioned this. Last time I
was in Hawaii, the people who rented the room above
us were cooking curry, and I felt like we were
being chemically bombed.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
Out of our room tents.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Man, that's a lot delicious.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
The plane turned around to try to get out of
like like legal action from somebody that might have been
sitting next to them.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
That's what I think. I think they're avoiding big lawsuits,
like a class action lawsuit because but.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Like in that case, I'm more pissed at the person
who's complaining, right, because it's like, I just want to
get to my destination.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, I would be like, you need to shut up
and go apologize and say you want to keep going,
go up there and talk to the pilot.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
But I bet you, I bet you it's the pilot
saying like, oh that human woice, we gotta go, we
gotta have all this stuel we gotta go. I bet
it's one of those like white whi or black things.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Right, Yeah, And if you wanna, if you want to
take us back because someone's smeared poop, you've told the
stories on here before. We're okay, now we're in. Now
we're in a hasmad situation. But a little urine like
and I don't maybe I've had too many kids. If
you peed onto me on accident or on purpose. I
still don't think I'm going to get sick. Just wash

(11:42):
it off.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Now, well, I try to weasel a free trip out
of the airline.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, I my airline points, whatever, my standard.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
But I still want to go to my destination. I
think I'm gonna I'm in the same boat.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's not going to Cabo because you peed on my arm.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
Yeah right, it'd bee for the airline too, because thirty
thousand dollars worth of fuel versus like a free free
trip for the two people sitting on either side of
the P seat that's.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Maybe front and back to just do a handful of
like the star of of Containment.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
So I guess the guy at some point started acting
unruly on the flight too, so that probably covered in urine.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
And throwing fists is another thing.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
But dude, like when you sober up and you realized
what happened, you're ten ten grand in the hole. You're
banned from this.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Airline because if you're the dude left in Ireland pete
on somebody, you don't get to ass out on top
of that, you know, no, you get to sit.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
I've only been like like what I would consider hammered
on a plane once. I missed a flight out of
Eugene and then I had to fly to Seattle and
have a seven and a half hour layover and then
fly the red Eye to Omaha.

Speaker 7 (12:46):
And I was so pissed off. I went, Yeah, I
got to Seattle.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
I ordered a pizza and I just told the waitress
just keep the twenty outs.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
I pas coming.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
And I sat there for seven hours and drank I
p a and eight pizza. And here's what I didn't
think about, because I'm thinking, I got a seven hour flight,
I'm just gonna sleep. I'll get on the plane, I'll
fall right to sleep. It'll be morning when I get there. Uh,
you end up stinking really bad after you drink for
seven hours and then sit on a plane and sleep
it off. And I had to take a bum shower

(13:17):
in the bathroom at the airport, like wet wipes, cleaning
myself off because I had to go to work the
next day in Omaha and meet a bunch of people
I'd never met before.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Imagine marks his cheeks like they don't hide it very well.
When he was on that plane, it looked like he
wiped red dyeing number three all over.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
His face like he's breaking out or something because he's.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Got I've got nothing but greasy pepperoni and cheese in
my body to sweat out for seven hours too.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
So it was and n I p A. You know,
just it was a bad move.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
But recommend stale beer and pepperoni. What's up with that?

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I bet it was pretty sweet though, Like as he's
eating pizza about three e I p A Is in
with about four hours. He's feeling great, telling jokes to
the keeps them flowing. Yeah, one hundred and thirty seven
dollars beer tab.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
You guys know me a bit too.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, that's that sounds like a good time until you're
on the plane.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, then you're sitting on the plane, like the turbulence
on this plane is terrible, sir, we haven't left the gate, hud.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I was.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
When I was so hammered that one time going to Disneyland.
That taking off made my stomach churn big tails, Like,
what you're right, every little bumpy feel I was.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Like flying to Vegas. Every time I fly to Vegas,
there's always turbulence. Oh yeah, it was like the bumpiest
dride I've ever had.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Yeah, any of the desert winds exactly. That's what it is,
desert stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Same thing with if you land in Cabo San Lucas,
it's also a desert and when you come in, it'll
shake that booty too.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Another thing we didn't talk about on the show today
was a majority of US employees struggle to make small
talk with coworkers, and apparently gin Z is killing small
talk with coworkers, and.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I couldn't be mine.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
I'm all about it. I can't stand small talk, you know.
And there's there's always like that one guy at work
who can't small talk with you unless it's sports.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
You know.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
There's this one guy who used to work with an eugen
named Tom, I think it was his name right where
you could you know, you could talk to him about
sports all day, but as soon as you asked him
about anything else, it's he broke out into a sweat.
Didn't know what to say.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Unless video poker you could talk about.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
You can talk about video poker, and then having kids
because he had like nine of them.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Oh boy, what I think of is the guy who
used to work here, who would follow you down the
hall and remember he was only here for a short
kind of a young guy. He was only here for
a short period of time. I feel bad saying in
his name, I'm talking to myself, Yeah you remember you

(15:48):
remember this guy? He would you. He'd be oh, man, yeah,
I heard you guys talking about this, and go yeah,
back forth, back forth, and then you'd be walking down
the hall. He's like, yeah this one time, and then
just like a walk up on you. As doing the
body language of any person who says I got to
get going.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
He probably has Asperger's or something. Is my stepdad's that way,
just missing the kid doesn't understand when the conversation's over,
when that person's trying to wrap it up. I would
be closing the door of my bedroom on the other
side of the house, and he'd still be talking about.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Okay, all right, thing, all right, good night, yel.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah, And now my mom's like that on the phone
if I say, Mom, I really got to go.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
How that work?

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well three more things?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:25):
It makes me crazy. I feel like nothing is important,
Nothing in my life is important.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
There's got to be a happy medium, though, too, Like
I want you to acknowledge that I'm alive, but I
don't want to stop down and chat forever, Like being
ignored is just as bad. But I a head nod
good morning, stuff like that. I think those are common courtesies.
But when we get into the weeds of so, how
are this that and the other that you don't care about?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Right?

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, you can usually tell when somebody doesn't care and
I don't you just.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Set them free, like, don't worry.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
I know you don't.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
I absolutely hate getting stuck in the elevator with like
a coworker because it's it's that bullshit small talk.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
And it's like it's forced.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
It goes and I don't like it, and I usually do.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Something chili outside. I had to scrape my windshield this morning.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Really interesting, but chili, I'll take it. Yeah, it's just
stupid ship.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
And I know that sunshine is deceiving, isn't it. Well,
it's cold.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
I swear to God. I will wait or I will
take the stairs to avoid going to the elevator.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
I've done that where I've seen somebody coming up to
the building before me, and I know that I'm gonna
get stuck in the elevator, so I will stop and
make a phone call real quick and wait until they
get all the way in into the and on their
way up before I go.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
In in my car, move around, make it look like
I'm looking for something. Yeah, exactly, I'm not doing ship.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
So you've cleared the area.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Oh man. I hate small talk. I've always hated small talk,
and I thought I thought there was something wrong with me,
you know, I just it's stupid.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
It is.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
I find it to be so fucking stupid, and some
people are really good at it. I think Drew's pretty
good at it. Casey is a fucking Jedi.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
As I know.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Ye small talk at all. But like, yeah, Drew and Casey,
if they could talk to anybody about any it's.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
They doesn't always mean that you want to write, you
know you You may do it because you're like I don't.
I don't have another option. They've seen me, and there
are days me something.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
There are days where I feel super charming and I
feel like I can do it. You've got that riz,
but still deep down inside in the same way, like
I don't want.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
To talk to you, yea, I go for big tok.
I go for big talk. So anybody in your family
have cancer, let's talk about that.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, that does end the conversation.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
In my right it's not in my testicle, but it's
by it.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Hey, can you tell if this is cancer?

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, Marcus, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
What I I actually think i'm small talk guys.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
I'm sitting here listening to you guys and just kind
of putting myself on the other side of it. I
I'm not obnoxious with it, but I a long time ago,
when I was in college, I tried to join a
band and the guys in the band were like, dude,
we've seen you walking around. You never smile like you
don't look happy, you always look pissed. And I kind
of decided back then that I need to be a
little bit more outgoing and be friendly. And I think

(18:58):
I totally turned into small talk guy because I would rather,
you know, if I know you in the elevator, if
you're like a person I know, and we get in
and we just sit there and stare at the wall together.
I feel like I'm being an asshole sort of. I
don't know why. I probably shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
We all.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think we all open, and that's why we small talk,
whether we like it or not.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Even though I prefer not to talk. It is awkward
when you're not talking, so I usually do. Yeah, I
do say something.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Then you pop a weather bomb.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
But it's a small talk, like when you're getting your haircut,
don't talk to me. I just I want to sit
here and I just want to relax. I don't want
you to talk to me. It's that type of small
talk that makes me crazy and I.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
And you know, the more we talk about it, I'm guilty,
I'm sure for fueling the fire on some of these,
like because the haircut I leave there, I'm like, oh
my god, how do I know about her niece and
what she's been through? And it's because I inquire. I'm like,
I ask a follow up question. It's not right. I
should be quiet, but I think I sometimes I'm also
a part of the.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Some hairstylists appreciate it, but I've noticed the more I talked,
the less they focus.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Actually, I always don't keep.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Going, They'll stop, and I fucking hate that.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
If I'm late, I will one word answer or a
couple word answers.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Last time I was getting my hair done, I actually
asked my hairdresser because I've had the same one for
a while, and I was like, so, like, what would
you rather like? Would you rather someone be really talkative
or would you rather than just like shut up? And
she's like it depends. Like if I can tell that
they're just forcing small talk just because they feel like
they have to say something, I hate it. I don't

(20:26):
care if you sit there in silence, but if we're
like genuinely engaged in conversation, that's great. But it's funny
because it's like even your hairdressers like, fuck small talk.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Like if you don't want to talk, what's not you
want to get situational too, right, Like if they like you,
what doesn't work? Anything else?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
What is?

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Are those things where when you're signing up for it,
you can say talking or not talking?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I think uber or something.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah that's great, Yeah, because I definitely want to talk
to my uber guy.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Be kind of fun to hack and change all those Well, Margarets,
I feel like.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
There's a tipping point with the hair with the barber
two or the hairdresser or whatever you want to call it,
because if you if you take their first bait and
you start talking, sometimes you get to a point in
the conversation where silence just isn't a thing anymore, or
if you do, you're the asshole, because it's the conversation
gets moving to a point where the momentum is gonna

(21:18):
take it through the end of the haircut. I'm always
sitting here for twenty five minutes, you know, And I
find myself kind of tugging between that because there's times
where I just don't want to talk, Like I get
my haircut at sports clips, they've got.

Speaker 7 (21:29):
Football on the TV. Shut the fuck up, I will.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
You know, I'm not small talk guy right now, But
at the same time, I'm nice enough that if you
ask a couple of you know, probing questions, we're gonna
have a conversation. And I kind of hate it about
myself now that we're having this conversation.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
I want to be honest.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Well, according to this Paul, seventy four percent of employees
struggle to make small talk with their colleagues around the office.
More than a quarter twenty seven percent of workers of
all ages say they're more comfortable communicating online than in person,
but that goes up to forty percent for gen Z employees.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I do wonder too, if because we're all sitting in
here being like, well, we don't like small talk, but
we can do it. I feel like, you know, the
gen Z ers who went through the whole pandemic going
to school online, Like, I don't know if they're even capable, right.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
You know, some of them are socially broken. I mean
you hear from their parents even who are from even
a time before us, but a time of conversation and
out of the pad and all of this streaming stuff,
they are broken to an extent. Like, yeah, they're good
at some things, some can code, they can do this,
but the thought of going to class in person at
college is daunting. The thought of just coming face to

(22:43):
face and me just hey, walk into your office and
ask you a question is daunting.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
I literally just read about a college course that teaches
people how to make phone calls. Oh my god, because
the biggest thing for them is like they panic when
they have to make an actual phone call because it's
everything's texting and you know these and so there's some
fucking college course that will teach kids how to be
in the real world.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well, I have a friend who's going to Lewis and Clark.
She's in grad school, mind you, and so all of
her classmates also in a graduate program and these and
she's like the oldest in her class. I think she's
in her mid thirties, but everybody else is like straight
out of college for the most part. Twenty two three
and these other I don't want to call them kids,

(23:26):
but I'm going to call them kids just you know,
they are so anxious about like coming to class and
meeting in person and being overwhelmed by the workload that
they have no shame in speaking up and being like
I don't know how to do this, Like I don't know.
I mean, like what you expect me to like go
home and do all this homework? Like it's just too

(23:48):
m you expect me to come to class every day.
But what I'm feeling anxious or what if I'm feeling
nervous about speaking in front of the class, And it's like,
this is what school is.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
That's right, what are you?

Speaker 6 (24:00):
I want to be a lawyer? You have to figure
this out?

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, it's like yeah, sorry, I consider myself very lucky
that my kids missed the pandemic part. But the pads
and all that, that's still a thing like that that
is forever pushing them down. But like my kids are
required to keep your face out of your shoes, Like
if we're in a public space and you're talking to someone,
you're going to be articulate, You're going to speak at them,

(24:24):
and you're going to exchange. You don't need me to
talk for you. You can talk. And it's those types
of things where it's uncomfortable at first, they can actually
do what needs to be done to communicate.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, growth happens when you get outside of your comfort zone.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
Yeah you got you gotta stress it a little bit, dude.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
I you know, I worked I still work for company
that's remote and we have a lot of the younger generation.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
There's a lot of gen Z in my company.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
And we went on a company retreat a year or
so ago, and it was crazy at the lead up
to that how many people were like yeah, I'm in
until like two weeks before and they're just like, I
can't do it. I can't come meet all you people
in the same room. Like it just Jesus. And I
think there's a lot of a lot of people out
there like that, And maybe it was pandemic. I think

(25:10):
some of it gets conditioned to him up in higher
education because they kind of get coddled a little bit
to an extent there, like Laura's talking about where it's
like you gotta, hey, we better teach them how to
call somebody on the phone. Man, If you couldn't call
somebody on the phone when we were kids, you didn't
talk to anybody like I can't imagine not spending time
on the phone as a kid. That was most of
my communication with my friends were nights and weekends when.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
My mom got me my own phone number because I
was on it too much and she couldn't get on
the internet.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
But I do remember, I do remember calling friends houses
and being nervous about like, oh my god, what if
their brother picks up or what if their mom picked you?
But you do it anyway because like Marcus, like Marcus said,
you're not going to talk to your friends otherwise.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
See. But back then, that was another thing that taught
you to be good at it, because I remember if
you called a girl or you called your buddy, and
even if you were gonna be up to no good,
you had to get through their parents first. And in
order to do that, you have to be articulate and
kind and not seem like a weirdo. And that type
of stuff doesn't happen now. You don't have that filter

(26:14):
of Okay, I vouch for this kid, he said three sentences. Normal. Yeah,
I means there always was that tryout on the phone.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
One time I was dating a girl and my senior
year and I called her and her dad picked up
and he grilled the shit out of me. He ended
up liking me a lot, but like he and I
think he was having a little bit of fun because
I was kind of freaking out a little bit. But
he was grilling me so hard over the phone, and
I guess he had a big belly laugh afterwards.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Nice man like that.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
I felt like that was good because I handled it.
He ended up liking me, And if I hadn't gone
through that like a little bit of stress test, I
don't know. I feel like those are the things that
that comes with life, that is part of life.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I would tell kids who had not been to my
house before. I'd be like, Okay, if my mom is
home when we come in, just face her. And you
have to just face her and talk to her for
a second. If you squirrel to the basement, she's gonna
think you've got something going on. Just face my mom,
which is not easy. You guys have met her, Yeah,
but she would just assess you there and I don't

(27:12):
know if all that stuff happens anymore, dude.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
It was really weird as a kid too.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
There was those those certain respectful things, and that was
like it was drilled into me at my house, and
then it was also expected of my friends at my
house when they came to, you know, see my parents
or whatever. But I think that everybody, at some point
in time should spend a week, maybe even a couple
of days just cold calling, Like just find a way

(27:39):
to get some numbers where you're gonna call somebody that
you don't know you, they don't know you, You're gonna
surprise them with the call and force yourself to say, Hi,
my name is Marcus, and this is why I'm calling.
And that that anxiety killed me for years. But as
I started doing sales, and it's like, first of all,
the people you're calling expected, they know the sales calls
are coming in, so just do it, and it kind

(28:02):
of made that go away. I used to hate cold
calling people, but now, I mean, I'll make four cold
calls a day, people that don't know I'm calling them
and don't know who I am, and you just I mean,
it's kind of part of the gig now. But I
think it was a stress test thing. It's like hold
your feet over the fire until it doesn't burn anymore.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Right, Marcus would be great at one of those Nigerian companies.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah, he'd be a great scammer.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Bro, wouldn't you be awesome? I mean, he is as
thick as hell. You can't stop this guy.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Nearly half of all respondents say they use WhatsApp, teams
or email to avoid face to face conversation. The struggle
is pretty real, though. Twenty percent even avoid going to
the office kitchen in case they bump into somebody.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Forty percent of young adults they say that small talk
is quote like learning a new language that sucks. Some
twenty seven percent are more experienced with workplace chit chat
and actually feel sorry for office newbies who haven't mastered
it yet. So I don't feel bad together.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
I feel like sometimes they keep you walk through a
grocery store and like someone who's older than we are,
so like maybe they're sixty sixty five or something, and
even nonverbal, you just give them the facial communication up
like ahead, not in a smile. They're like blown away
that you are able to do the physical contact thing.
Everyone's in their shoes so much that the older generation.

(29:21):
I think they think our minds are dead.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Well they are, They're not wrong. Yeah pretty close. Yeah,
we will see you, I guess tomorrow on the live show.
We've got one more pair of Disturbed in Daughtry tickets.
We've got a big announcement a beer, Yeah, biging, a
beer announcement at seven am.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's all going down.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Thirty seconds of hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Vote now for Laura at the Instagram wouldn't be necessary.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
And your shot at a one thousand dollars every hour
to see the bye.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
You've been listening to Tanner, Drew and Laura's Donkey Show,
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