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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Let me know when you're ready.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I bet that's a good start.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
This is Tanner, Drew and Laura's Donkey Show, Donkey Show, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Son oh big finish Yes.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Manner's on one this morning, yelling at everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's all right, I'll keep your keep you awake here
at the finish line, Laura, I made a lot comes
last night, and I'm just feeling loose. Comes out, Rachel
and I hung out alone.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
By myself, make it making combs boom.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
That's when I make the most come.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I got the stiffest twel at home.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Marcus, good morning, sir. Oh I just quit actually based
on that he's walking down the stairs from his man room.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You got nothing going on. Marcus actually posted some pictures
yesterday on his Facebook, you know, because he's got a podcast.
It's he does a podcast but for truckers, right, so
like guys who are driving truck you know, across the
country or just even in town. I can listen to
this podcast and you know, live the true life of
a trucker. And Marcus posted some media shots yesterday, and
(01:11):
media shots of your friends always feel weird.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You know, It's like that, wait, did they make you
take your hat? Off.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
No, he kept us all had a big part of it.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Like we have branded hats that we put together because
these are custom fleet podcasts. So there there's a lot
of you know, me looking the part on camera. And
from that photo shoot that those three pictures came from.
There were seven thousand pictures taken of me, so they
can put me in any position, any any situation. I mean, but.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Those are the three that worked. It was just those three.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, they're gonna start cutting his face out and imprinting
it in the butt hut at the top of a truck. Hey,
Mark is.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Yeah, dude, they could put it anywhere, and just fortunate
that they're good people. I'm sure that they've got some
stuff that hit the cutting room floor that's just atrocious,
but they do a really just job put.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, yeah they did. But like you just look so
cheesy sometimes, you know, like you go look at it.
We all do, just like I look at all my
promotional photos on my cringe. Right, It's just like especially
when you know the person really you're like, that's not
your smile, smile, isn't that beautiful? That's photoshopped?
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Well, dude, And and sit in a room for that
long like, I don't know how long you guys did
when you're taking your your promo shots and your head
photos and stuff. But I was in there for eight
hours in that man.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
How long does it take to get a decent shot
of you?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Dude? Well you've seen them.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
My got eight hours. What a difficult model.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
And it was in Lincoln, Nebraska of all places, Like
I don't know if.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You c yeah, I don't think I could look pretty
that I've been there.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Nebraska is in a college town.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It was it is I think actually, but it's university
and it still sucks.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
There's nothing huss nothing going on.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I ever was corn Huskers, corn Huskers.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But Marcus Yeah, man, uh of what were we saying?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Well, I'm glad we're talking about his his glamour shots.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, you gotta you gotta get some new ones.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Not going to have seven thousand more take you need
seven thousand get bent, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Dude, I hate taking photos too, bro.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I My mom's a photographer, and I grew up with it,
right she she became a photographer, and I was like
two or something, but she would say one more for
four hours, yeah, and I would be I felt like
I was at the studio all day. I'd be exhausted,
I'd be hungry. She'd be yelling at me because I'm
her kids, so she can see.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I had the opposite problem in my marriage, which is
why I got divorced. H My ex husband just wasn't
a very good Instagram husband. I said, I said, hey,
don't make me look like I have four chins. Take
another one. And he'd be like no, and he'd hand
me the phone back. I'm like, you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
This is not working.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Out showing my best side. That's fair, Actually I see that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But yeah, I just I don't like getting my picture
taken because my mom tortured me. So even when we
have to do show photo for the show, I find
it very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You don't have the eyeballs for it. I don't have
the eyeballs.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well I could if I did that trick that the
dude from Twisters did he learned from Bill packs.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Don't they get dry?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And I get they get it's too bright? Yeah, it's
ever since I was a kid. I remember having sensitive
eyes where I just would squint all the time. He's
be too bright after wear sunglasses. And so when we.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Get our pictures taken.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I got to stare at this tiny little dot it's
like ten feet away or whatever, and my eyes just
start to water, like I'm crying.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So next one, that's why we're gonna do Blues Brothers theme,
so everybody can wear shades. I dig it and they'll
be done. It's so pain in the ass.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But uh, the guy from Twister, he said he was
in the sequels Twisters.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I guess yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
He said he learned from Bill Paxton. The trick to
keep your eyes from squinting is look direct like the
sun with your eyes.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Closed, like through the lids.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, it's probably not good for you, but that's what
doctors do to not squint, because you can't be squinting
on camera whatever to get the scene.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So he'll just.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Stare right at the sun with his eyes closed, and
he does. He did that, you know, I don't know
how many weeks before the shoot, but that he says
that helped and he could do it every every day
before the shoots.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Bill Paxxon died young, but it had nothing to do
with the sun trick. That's fine, own thing. Yeah, court
just walked in court.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
How do you feel about photo shoot?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Staring and judging.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Oh I die. I don't like them. I don't like
the results.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I think I never I don't results. They're still using
a picture of court that we took in a photoshop
like eight years ago.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
Just a good photo actually, yeah, photographs really good photographed well.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Eight years ago.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Yeah no, And actually I hated I hate I hate
that picture as well.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
You don't look any different than you did, Yeah, yesterday, a.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Little more gray and there's a way more gray.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
There's a ton more gray. It's getting into my mustache now.
As I was looking in the glance at myself in
the rearview mirror yesterday and the sun was kind of
hit my face and like, the whole mustache is turning gray.
It's gonna be my whole face is going to be
gray in probably another two years.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But when you took promo shots for your like Courton
Fatboy Show or Courton Blow those two. Yeah, yeah, Like
there's just like I hate every photo promotional photo that's
taken on it because what they do is they super
impose you, usually in something else. And anytime they do
that cheesy line where they cut you out of something,
it looks so corny. Yeah, they can put you in
front of anything and it looks corny.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Yeah, I never got super imposed, but I still hate
every all of those. I mean, I just don't like it.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And the clothing age is out and like so when
once that photo is a year removed, you just look
like a nerd.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, but Marcus in his shot, he's he's got like
this weird head tilt, like he's smiling and he's just
kind of like I got a goofy ta.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Were they a photo shopping different outfits on or did
you put all those on?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
No?
Speaker 6 (06:35):
That's it, so I basically took I think that I
had four different flannel shirts that they wanted me in,
like of different colors, and then they've actually been able
to take those four flannel shirts and turn them almost
any color. And then like the the big fur coat
that's that hat's not on me that time?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, I figured you weren't in full on like a
costume store doing this. Yeah, fix that weird.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I haven't fixed that word headtel where it looks like
you're gazing into somebody's eyes with pure love.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Maybe he was looking at the dog.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
When your mom was yelling at you, did you do
what she asked you to do? I feel like you're
criticizing me for following directions.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Here.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
They told me to tilt my head and smile, so
I fucking tilted my head.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's just a weird, corny tilt.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I'm not happy.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And by the way, I didn't do what my mom said.
That's why we were there for four hours.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, yeah, she's gone.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
We should see those pictures.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I'm in a little sailor outfit.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Sailor outfit. I want to see that for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think that one's on my Facebook. But yeah, I
think it is. It's it is a cute shot, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's the photoshots. The photoshoots never they never turned out well.
I feel like, I mean, everyone says, oh, it looks.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Fine, but yeah, at a certain point, I give up,
Like I just like I'm getting in to whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I'm getting the age where I'm getting there, right, I
just don't care anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah whatever, I'm like, just airbrush the wrinkles off my face.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Laura always complained to drop single week, so I'm I'm
like almost, well, I'm really sick of seeing him.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
To be honest with you, like, I think it's cool.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
But they also like they chopped my head onto the
most athletic and like, fat boy, that was.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
The best part for you.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Like I'm saying, like those pictures aren't him.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I look at it, I go, this is weird.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
This is this is this is your the new you market.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
You can pretend though you can tell people it's you, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Those truckers Stone.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Laura gets really upset with her photos that are on
the internet from our last show photo shoot, which I
think looked great, and she says, that's not what I
look like.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Because that's a reason that far there's a reason it's
great is because they added like they plumped my lips
and my cheeks and they really put freckles on my
face and like and I'm like, like I had to
tell him, and like I love our photographer, don't get
it twisted. He's an awesome dude, chick ass designs. Yeah,
but I had to tell him. I was like, I
look like a brats doll. Can you like toned down?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But then he did and the pictures are now fine.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yet still no, but it like.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I will say, the one photo I didn't like that
he sent of me was I'm clean shaven and he
puts stubble on my face and I just look homeless.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I thought.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I was like, he was like, but that's you, though,
I go take it off.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
I didn't realize he was photoshopping stuff. I thought he
was just taking pictures and you don't look.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That good, court, I know, I know, I haven't.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
I don't think it was that the same guy that
was in that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
No, no, that, but I will tell you also, those
pictures are also doctored because I remember him texting me
and being like, it's really pale. He sent me a
picture and I was like, oh my god, does my
face look like that? And he was like, yeah, right, buddy,
ha ha ha ha ha. And so like even our
pictures from mcminimon's they cleaned me up a little bit.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
So so as much as I hate that picture, I
actually look worse in real life.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah you look.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I but we had great, some great pictures that we
use for years from that shoot.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
We need some new ones badly because a lot of
the ones that are up. I think we're done what
three years ago?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Two years ago must have been about three.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Yeah, ye think it was right when you got here.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I love Lancelot. I think we should have him back. Yeah,
I used him.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
He's got a great eye.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, yeah, I used him for like head shots for
like public speaking. And he's so fast too, like, yeah,
that's a pair of these long eight hour things. It's
like we do this, this, this, and you go home. Yeah,
you want a competent, confident photography, but you know what
they want what they and they take five hundred pictures
in twenty minutes, so they just.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Do it quick.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And he's very uh he makes you feel very comfortable too.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah. I remember my mom, you know, she was a photographer.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
She this was still on hoseablods where you had films,
so you couldn't just sit there and go to a
wedding and snap a thousand pictures. Yeah, you had you know,
thirty yeah or whatever in a great shot. And that's
how my mom became so good. I remember I was
picking up some gear from an old photographer and my
mom lent her gear to because she was retired. And
he comes to me and he goes, your mom's the
best wedding photographer I've ever seen. And it was like
(10:50):
that felt good because back in the day she had
to do it for real. There was no photoshop. There
wasn't you had a light. Yeah, this hause blood camera
and you had your subjects.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
My friend's daughters just got married recently, and I remember
at the wedding, like you could hear the photographer. They
would they just hold the button up and they're just
like taking because they knew out of the thousand pictures,
there's one that I can use.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's like a paparazzi if you just listen closer, just going.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I bet you it's getting so good now that you
take those pictures and probably put them on the computer
and AI will pick out the ones that have all
the eyes open and everyone looking through at the camera
like the art of what your mom did.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Find the pictures were gone where this actor has cocaine
in their notes, right, And you know it's got to
be getting to where you don't even have to look
at the three thousand pictures.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
They even do that with with phones. I think like
Tanner's You're Android, I think that I've seen ads where
they if you take a bunch of pictures of the
family and this kid over here is I got a
goofy face, and this kid over here is blinking, we'll
just use AI and we'll just swap out this this
picture for another picture, so you can kind of create
your own so weird different picture.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
The moment you remember is the one that never happened.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
This AI is getting so good. We are so fucked,
we are so cooked as a society. Because there's stuff
that I'm watching that I I know it's fake only
because it tells me at the bottom it says it's
he I generated, And then I look at it and oh,
I can tell.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Some of this stuff is so good.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Like they've got these clips going viral where like, uh,
a guy and his two kids and his wife who
is very large, walks up to the counter at McDonald's
and he says, hey, can I get to two big max,
two large fries, four burgers, two large fries, and a coke?
And he goes, yeah, well now what now? What would
you like? Because he made it look like he ordered
for this fail It.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Was inappropriate, but it got it got a huge laugh.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
And it looks so real. It looks so real.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
I haven't seen all these these videos on TikTok where
it's it looks like a reporter standing up in front
of like a hurricane or whatever, and you know, and
we're reporting live from Florida, and no, this is not real,
like and theyring those together.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Look at this door, So.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Why don't you said lettuce or tomato on my burger?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Fixed this?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Now you need that fucking.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Lettuce and tomato on your burger because your colus all
levels are through the roof and you're currently two burgers away.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
From a stroke.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Y'all just finished up a batch of chocolate chip.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Those do not look good.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
We both know your fat ass is still gonna eat
them and chase it with a shot.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
All zimpic all that is AI, all of it? Look
how real that looks?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
It looks and sounds still a little bit pick Sorry.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
It's a little right.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I mean it's a little shiny.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Like that's today.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, for sure, I mean it's impressive.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Here's another one. Look at this and look how real
this ship looks?
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
She must be fucking the manager because how she.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Don't got no write ups even the AI the voices
are AI.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
No, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I give it.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
You know, maybe another couple of years before they like
do a full show or full movie. That's just it's all.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
A I will I refuse to see that.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Oh, I know there will be plenty of people who
won't see it. But all the people who don't see it,
there will be a million others who do.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It's the generation after this who won't drag their feet
like we will because we remember the old days. But
they will not.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The music producer Timberland, he is getting a lot of
ship on the internetright now because he used AI and
some music and and all these producers are like, dude,
they're just shitting on him because he started to use
AI yea And I think, yeah, I think if.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
You're gonna see that more and more where it's like
it was just to help out with blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, I bet there's I bet people are using it
to write lyrics all the time.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
The song generators that you know, like if you just
type in a few prompts, they'll write your country song
about pooping in your hand.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
No, it's like they're a lot more super gang yeah
right yeah right yeah, Like.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I wonder Ed Sheeran feels that there are thirty ed
cheering songs on the internet with music videos are that
don't exist. And I get fooled.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Like a month ago, I was like, OK, and shearing
song and I played it and we got a minute
and a half into it, and Drew goes like, I
think this is AI.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's happened to me multiple times.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
And what's what's crazy about that is now there's going
to be the battle, the legal battle over is that
is that copyright infringement because it's not You're not copying.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It just sounds like sound alike. This thing is using
AI steal his actual likeness.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
It's just like, but the music videos will they get them?
Because now you're using Ed's face use your music like
that seems like.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So there's already AI musicians and AI bands that are
top in the charts. There's a there's an AI artist
in Germany that made it to number forty eight on
the charts. There's an artist called Vinnie Prey number forty forty,
number forty four rather on TikTok Virals fifty chart.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And it's all to do you have to disclose.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Like you're supposed to, Like I see when I load
a video and says it asks you is this AI
or no?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And you know I know what I mean. For like,
if somebody were to put out a song and pitch
it to radio and they were to start playing it
on the radio under just whatever name they were given.
Do they have to disclose, Hey, this is an AI
song or is that something where we find out after
the fact, Like, I don't jokes on you, this was
(16:01):
an entirely AI generated song, and I think number two
on the Billboard Hot one hundred.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Now I think if you don't, you you got the
risk of being millievenillid. Yeah, because if if I find
out after three albums that this is not a real
band or whatever, and I've been listening to it forever,
I mean, you're gonna find.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Out eventually because like why is there no tour?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
There's also no loss, That's what I mean. So there,
you know, they probably don't if I came on the
air and it was an AI song, I don't think
i'd have to say it was an AI song. But
there's nothing in place to say that because.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Where's the line?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Like, so if AI helps you make the beat, but
you write an epic, say a rap or a song
over that beat, it's partially I mean, that's basically. I mean,
when you get a beat from someone, like if it
didn't exist and now it exists just because the computer
made it, I don't know where the line is and
I guess I'm not. I'm not as mad at that
(16:51):
ass a musician myself, I'm not that mad.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm okay using it as a tool. If you're using
it to write your entire song, that's then you're not mission.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Like if the vocals are AI generated, if everything about
it is ERRY generated, then it's like what Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
If you're using AI as a tool, then okay, it
just can't be the foundation of your your.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
If I need AI, I'm like, I'm trying to rhyme
with orange. Help me out, Yeah, slant rhyme because many
things rhym and I think nothing does.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Because a beat might be you know better than say,
if you're if it's like make it in the style
of X, Y and Z, you're also stealing all the
other parts of it from other people, so you're kind
of plagiarizing in a circle to profit. So the beat
I don't care so much about. But if you do
the voice, you're done. Let me ask you this, I'll
go I'll go to Marcus first.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Let's say you know, all these big bands are dying off, Aerosmith, Scorpions,
Van Halen, all these all these guys are dying off.
They can't too anymore? Are you okay with once they're
long gone, that band still producing records because AI is
now in control of it. So Aerosmith's gone, but AI's
got the voice of Stephen Tyler, they got Joe Perry's licks,
They've got you know, the guys, you know whatever, Brad
(17:57):
the Drummer's stuff, and he just makes a new song
out of their stuff. Are you okay with that?
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I guess, man, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Like the whole hologram thing that they were doing a
while back, where it's like Tupac's on stage again, it
was cool in the moment, but after that it was like, okay,
are we trying a little hard? Like that hologram doesn't
look that good. It's not that mind blowing. You're just
playing a song that he wrote twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
That that Tupac hologram that wasn't even Tupac.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's somebody else. It's a look alike.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And then they he just dressed and looked just like Tupac,
and that's what that is. That's not even really Tupac.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Well, and if you notice, it can't even really be Yeah,
and it won't even really be Aerosmith, right, like if
they're writing an Aerosmith album and it comes out and
it's AI because Steven Tyler's been dead for ten years,
I'm just it's not gonna be Aerosmith to me.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, but these new crowds, these new kids, they're not
going to know any difference. You know, Like these people
are still selling out Journey shows and it's not Steve Perry,
So you know.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
That's different to have one member different and then have
an entire AI produced album.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Like what are we talking about here?
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Because it in that Like in Journey's case, you can
play forever, right, you just replace them as they die,
and pretty soon you're under oath and you're just you
look at it and you say, oh, the some of
the hole is greater than the parts, and so we
just play under Oath songs with who we Have.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But money Typs. That's also and these and these and
these bands, these individual bands, they're companies.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's there.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Aerosmith is a company, right, so it's it's keep generating money.
What they'll do is well, I could see them aiing
the songs for the radio. And then there's a band
that sounds as close as they can get, that goes
on tour and performs.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
But here's my thing with that is that like even
if Aerosmith as they are right now, all still living,
put out a new album already, nobody gives a shit,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So it's like put all that aside, because you're totally right,
you would.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Just need a relevant artist, which I think that would
be hard.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I'm just saying, dude, I can see this happening, and
I almost guarantee that it does happen where these they
start making new songs and that cover band become a
thing where these bands are all dead but they still
need to tour, and we have.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
The one, yeah, the sanctioned band.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
The sanctioned band like you know, Kiss is going to
do that, and they're just kind have new guys.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Put the makeup on Kiss Official or some some title like.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That, and I can see the AI being involved in
all that.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
We have a not we the industry has a benefit
of time is a reset button. Whereas in my girls
who are nine and seven, my two oldest, when we're
in the car and they want to listen to like
music from our radio station, they're able to consume that
as new music like to them. If you know, if
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a hit comes on and it's a jam, like a
timeless jam, they consume it as if.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's really time because it's new to them. Yeah, and
so we just remember the old days well and think
about this, like, one hundred years from now, could there
be a genre of radio stations like we have hip
hop rock oldies or whatever. Could there be a genre
of radio stations that's dead artist making new stuff? I know,
I also think niche I think so there's probably gonna
be radio stations that play old deep cuts, you know,
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like like here's a song you never even knew existed
from a hundred years ago, and it's a bop because.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
It's popular and today.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But it wasn't back then. Yeah, I could see that happening.
And also I could see yeah, like you know, Aerosmith's
making new records, but it's only coming out on AI
dead radio or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Like somebody calls somebody, someone calls Chubby Checkers great great
grandson and say his B side just popped off. Like
that stuff's gonna happen where old music's gonna get refound.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I can see it happen.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
So I look at this too, and I think about
I mentioned this band under Oath, and some of you
guys will know them, I'm sure, but if you look
at their Wikipedia page and you go to the past
member spot, they'll normally be, you know, with any every
other band, they'll be just a list of the guys
that were in the band. Under Oath has a link
that you have to follow to go and see because
at one point in time they changed out every original
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member of that band and there was nobody from the
original albums in and that happened for like an album,
and then they started peppering people back in. There's twenty
people that have made up this five person band any
one given time.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, I'm looking at the list of members right now
and I'm like, holy hell.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Everybodyster at it as as a brand, right they're not.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
That's not even a band. That's a brand.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
And we love under Oak and it doesn't matter who's
wearing it, we're gonna love it.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
But I mean, you look at a band like that
and that works, But then you look at a band
like Lincoln Park and they can't sell tickets because they
strayed too far from the path. People aren't but nobody
they put in there is going to be chester.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So I think that's why they're the anomaly there could
have been, though, Like I feel like if they got
a better Sarah whatever her name is, Amy Emily what
no that.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Arm she's from dead Sarah. Yeah, But I.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Just I think the band isn't bad.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It's just she's not that great. When I hear her sing,
I don't hear Chester or whatever they're like, I hear
a whole different tone. So if they got another duke,
is there is a cover band, a Lincoln Park cover
band that sounds more like Lincoln Park than Lincoln Park
does right now?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
What about that?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah? And I think that that's the angle you got
to go. It is tough. I think Chester is in
a lane with like the Michael Jackson's Mercury when and
My Freddy Mercury When you died? So did a little
piece no everything? Yeah, to me, if the.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Band, if somebody like Chester dies, the band's gone, let
it go.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's you.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
You had what you had, it's gone, now let it go.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I can you imagine limb bisguit without fred Durst?
Speaker 7 (23:28):
I mean yes, I dream of that every single day.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Fault.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It's it's Kofo's fault.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
I blame you that was That was Dave Knumy. He
was he was the boss. He pulled that the only.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
That I can think of that when it was time
to take a knee because they're gone, took the knee
all the way as the Beastie Boys. And maybe there
is another one out there, but there's no way. They
just are not the band. Yeah, And so I know
you all want it, don't you think we do too?
But it's good.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
So yes, I do think there are some bands that
can't do it, you know, like there are some movies
who can't that can't be rebooted, like Back to the Future,
you know what I mean, Like certain band's just not
gonna happen. Beastie Boys, it's never gonna happen. Yeah, right,
you know, like there's certain bands like that, but that's
like it these other bands like who cares? You know,
I don't know who's in skid Row. I don't know
that's who we're playing right now.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
One of my favorite punk bands, no use for a name,
their lead singer Overdosed. I think it's been about ten
years ago now, and they never put out another record, like,
never even another song. They've played a couple of live
shows with that guy's best friends filling in for him.
But it's just a tribute like they just you can't
replicate Tony Sly and it doesn't. When you listen to
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it all put together, you're like, oh, he's got a
good voice. It's not that unique. Nobody else will do
it like he did. And I think it's just how
unique is your songwriting? Are you actually like a really
good band or did you get lucky and somebody saw
you in a mall and now you're making millions. I
don't think the people that are really the soul of
the band, when they die, they you can't go on.
(24:55):
And that was Chester, like you said, Beastie boys know
he's for a name. There's a thousand day different times
that people have tried and it just hasn't worked. Like
what you're talking about with Lincoln Park, I don't know
that you could have put anybody in there other than
the cover vocal guy. I mean, look, if Journey can
do it.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It can't be Lincoln. It can't be done.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's just you know, I mean.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
It's been done, but it's never it's never quite right.
I mean, look at Alison Change. Uh, you know, Stone
Table pilots. They've tried it. Like you put somebody else
in there, it becomes a it's a karaoke band.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But then like Marcus goes, you know, uh uh oh shit,
what was he saying?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Oh God, damn it. Sorry, I had had a thought
to me.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
I don't remember what I just said.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I thought, I trust me. It was a decent point.
I just don't remember.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
It was the only band that has ever done any
sort of business, and and they basically did it by
changing entirely was van Halen. When you you go from
David Lee to Sammy there's those are two different bands,
even though they share a lot of band members and
a name.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I was gonna say, you know, Marcus says, you know, like, uh, nobody,
you know the some bands you just can't mimic. An
AI's here and that going yeah, hold my computer chips. Yeah,
I'm gonna make the shit out of.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
This super mimicable.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
So we'll see what happens. I know I was going
to change a lot of things, But I do think
cover bands are going to be a thing in the
future where some of these bigger bands that can't tour anymore,
it's gonna get new people because like you guys said,
it's a brand, it's a business. Yeah, and they don't
ever like talk money go right, I mean they're gonna
like a CDC like.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
They haven't take it back that that is the band
that has actually done it. That's the only but again,
you you kind of have to change the way the
lead singer sounds. But that is the one band that
has changed lead singers.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But they have.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Songs that are just so good and so fun that
I want to I want to hear these songs till
the day I die. And I could see them going
on tour with just different people.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
And honestly, I have a hard time in a CDC.
Fans are always like what are you talking about? But
I even have a hard time telling the difference between
Bond Scott and Brian Johnson.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Oh really, me too, Actually, I have a heart like.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I like I when when you play them back to back,
I can definitely tell a difference. But like if you
were to play one song versus the next from like.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I wouldn't be able to tell you.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I'd be like, I don't know. So it's like I
feel like it's so closely represented. Yeah, that's why it worked.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
And this I mean, and the songs are so good.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I mean that when but they still follow the same
formula song I do.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I do like I'm doing this a lot today.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
What the hell? Yep, the brain has a certain amount
of battery, dude, I'm running low y anyway, Yeah, music.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Ail us.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
But I do think that, Yeah, the cover bands are
going to be a thing in the future. AI is
going to be a thing.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Whether we like it or not.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It's it's here because if they're thinking, oh, we don't
have to pay an artist, we can just you know,
because a lot of these people, some of these AI songs,
like the country ones that they're talking about being gay
and stuff, they're funny and they're actually kind of good,
you know, And so certain people are just not, especially
young people are not going to care that they're AI
at all. So record companies are going to see that
and go, let's just let's just bypass the artist altogether
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and make a and make a thing.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Is You'll you'll have AI written songs and AI the
all the musicians, all the music quote unquote musicians will
be AI. But you still have one person, because you
still have if you want to go out on tour.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
There's got to be a guy who, like you want
your dress.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
One person up on stage to you know, your your
Taylor Swift or whatever go up on stage that you
can cheer for, and everything else in the background is
just the AI generated music.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You have to want to sleep with the person you know,
like right, Like, isn't that part of it that there's
not not everyone? But like say you have a pop
star and they're a sex symbol. Someone's got to be
real or we're driving.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I suppose it could make all that a I too.
They're already doing that in Japan, Like there are AI
pop stars in other countries really get it.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But if you were fantasizing, yeah, personally, which I do,
it's nice to have the idea of a warm body
at least for now.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I CDC.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
I think of humping Brian Johnson. I mean, that's that's what.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
They could do.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It like the gorillas, you know that right down And
I don't know, I'm.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Just behind a screen.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I'm just saying arts cooked. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad
that we saw we saw when it was good, sure,
because it's all downhill from here.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
This is it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I agree with that statement that it feels so likely
we get a good fight before that. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, yeah, like the movie things.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I was just reading a story yesterday that movie theaters
believe that the movie the movie theater business has less
than twenty years.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Oh yeah, no, way less.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
They said ten. I'd say ten, they said twenty years.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Yeah. I think they're being optimistic because if you can
the screens that we have in our in our homes,
like you can get a seventy two inch TV screen
set that in front of your couch, that's as good
as a movie theater screen, same size, at least as
far as your vision goes. You get the surround sound.
You don't have to deal with people chomping on their
popcorn in your ear, or talking three rows back, or
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all the crap that goes along with going to movie theaters.
I'd much rather watch it at home. So if you
can deliver a new movie to me at home, I'm
not going to the theater.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
But you're an old school guy. You're telling me that
you would have no problem not going to the theater anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, because it's become such.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
A god awful experience. I saw that last Captain America
movie and I'm seeing you know, cell phone screens lit up,
people checking their phone all the entire movie, talking at
full volume.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I guess I'm just I'm just sound as grumpy as Court.
But I love going to the movie.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
He said he was old school. You didn't mean that way.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
I used to love going to the movie theaters. But
it is it's gotten to the point, especially after COVID.
I think everybody got used to watching things at home
and just having loud conversations while the moviees going cod COVID.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Dicked people up, you know, like we're all just assholes now, right, Yeah, yeah,
So I hope it doesn't die. I love the movie
genre so much. My guess is it'll get smaller, to
the point where it's like like one, you know, like
Disney will own their studios like a movie theater for
their Marvel and Star Wars.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
And all that.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Sheh.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Here's my thing, though, I mean, it's so frustrating because
it's like and I know it's like it comes with
the territory, but it's like we're paying these actors and
actresses millions of dollars for their role in this movie,
and then you're getting and because of that, and because
of you know, budgets and whatever else and production costs.
Now the AMC feels like they need to charge you
(31:04):
seventeen dollars for a ticket, and now you're gonna get
charged fifteen dollars for a bucket of popcorn because everybody
needs to make their money. But it's like, why don't
you just you know, cut costs and make it more
affordable for us?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That's what's gonna do.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
And it's just like greed, and it's like there's a
solution here. And it's not just telling people to get
back to the movie theaters. Okay, make that possible.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You may, you make the better, make better movies, that's all.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
That's a huge part.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Makes better movies, and stop being so goddamn greedy because
you know that thirty three cent popcorn is not worth
ten dollars. You know what I'm saying, Like a family
of four cannot afford to go to the movies if
they're struggling, and it's it's your own damn faults. I
feel like I agree, you make ship movies. It's all
reboots and sequels these days. Take some chances, have some balls,
and make some original content because you know it's out
(31:49):
there and the prices need to go down, and they
clean your goddamn theaters because when you like, you go
into the theater and it's all sticking, gross, and then
the sound sucks and the screen's broken, and like all
that shit adds to it. And these theaters are not
putting money into their facilities.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
If I want busted facilities, I'll just watch it at home.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
But it's also tech is eating them up. You know,
for less than a thousand dollars, you can get eighty
five inches, and you know, I have an eighty five
inch TV. Now, I've not been to the movies since
because you just look at it and you're like, that's crisp.
I'm here. This is great now. Granted, I don't chase
the new movies as.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Much love having big TVs at my house, but I mean,
there's my favorite movies I'm going to see in the theaters,
you know, and I just hope they don't die. I
know they're going to, but yeah, not today, not today.
I'm gonna I'm gonna keep them alive as long as
like I'm buying the eighty dollars popcorn bucket when it
comes out fantastic.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I got you guys.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
It's like with all that, it's like, shouldn't that on
its own keep the industry alive?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
How are they?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
What the how are they hurting so fucking bad? Well,
we need a Boppenheimer every year.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
And they have to have a profit margin. You know,
they're hurting compared to their projected incomes. You know, the
rest of us are just down here in the weed.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
It's like, there's CEO. They're still making millions. Yeah, they're
doing fine, millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Cuts have to be somewhere else.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yeah, you guys are letting the the experience die? Are we?
Are we responsible for this? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Okay, t Off, What a great job would it be
to like be the like from the studio seth Rogen's character.
Wouldn't it be great to be the guy who like
green lights movies like this movie sucks, I'm not paying
for this. I this movie's dope. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
I bet it would be fun, but it would also
be probably a nightmare because you're gonna have all of
the investors and the you know, the CEO and all
these other people over your shoulder, going, why are we
doing that? This is the safer play we should be
If I'm putting money up on this, we should be
doing this instead.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I will shut them up because I know it's best
with the movies, these fucking suits. Yeah, and I'm gonna
be like, no, it's a zombie movie and the zombies
have sex, so that's what we're doing.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
And if that bombs, then you're you're fired.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I do feel like I could pick good dress. I
do feel like as a I don't know, maybe it's
different when you're in there, but I do feel like
I could pick good movies. I feel like I could
pick better scripts for Will Smith, and Will Smith could, yeah,
I could. I think I could save his career if
I had an.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Opportunity, like Will Smith would would beg to differ with you.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
I could save his career by telling him to just
stop shut the fun.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I feel like before he did so many bad movies
that are just bad choices, you know, And I feel
like he just needs somebody like me needs to tell
him like, hey, dude, you shouldn't have done Wild While West,
you should have done The Matrix.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You boner, And I would have.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Told him to do the matrix and stop slapping people.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Just title it just the two of us, and then
you just break it down how you'll bring him back
from the edge that big Willie style. Don't ditle it
big Willy. Where you going?
Speaker 7 (34:34):
You got things to do?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I guess we are. We're getting after it.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Where you going?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Are you going to court?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I'm leaving you guys, all right?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Him looking at that thing is like your podcast is
running along and I'm leaving.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I guess it is. We're at thirty five, almost thirty
five minutes as I've read, we got a meeting going up. Yes,
we do what we do have them.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
He's gotta listen to these guys talk for forty minutes.
Hope it's not that long boring, Marcus, Are you good?
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:03):
The only thing I was really thinking about this theater
conversation is I'll be in line for when their wholesale
and stuff to buy a popcorn machine, because I gotta
think for movie theater popcorn and I can't find it
anyplace else.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah, So I'm in.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Eight years, dude, you'll be out there in front of regal.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, all right, we will see you tomorrow. We'll have
another two hundred dollar gift card to the Bomber Brothers
for you if you're listening to this on June twenty.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Fifth, when we're recording it.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Also, what else beef will be in here?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
And uh are we teasing?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Comedian Jeremy Piven's gonna be on the show. To Jeremy,
Jeremy Piven, Jeremy Jeremy, I always say, Jeremy.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Gonna be like who you call him.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
I'm gonna clean, I wash My, I'm gonna call him
Arty the whole time. Ari sorry, Ari Gold, don't call
him and Jeremy just Jeremy and already and get.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Away with it.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
But I'm a big Jeremy Piven fan. He's now doing
stand up and he's gonna be I can't remember where
he's performing, but we'll give you all that information.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I think.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Okay, we'll have some passes for you.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
We'll talk to Jeremy, Jeremy nice Jeremy Piven and talk
to me, you know about old school and all the
good mantrage.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
And so much stuff over the years.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, So I'll be tomorrow. I think he's gonna be
on at nine thirty.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
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and Laura's Donkey Show, heard daily at one oh five
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all of our souls.
Let me know when you're ready.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I bet that's a good start.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
This is Tanner, Drew and Laura's Donkey Show, Donkey Show, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Son oh big finish Yes.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Manner's on one this morning, yelling at everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's all right, I'll keep your keep you awake here
at the finish line, Laura, I made a lot comes
last night, and I'm just feeling loose. Comes out, Rachel
and I hung out alone.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
By myself, make it making combs boom.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
That's when I make the most come.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I got the stiffest twel at home.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Marcus, good morning, sir. Oh I just quit actually based
on that he's walking down the stairs from his man room.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You got nothing going on. Marcus actually posted some pictures
yesterday on his Facebook, you know, because he's got a podcast.
It's he does a podcast but for truckers, right, so
like guys who are driving truck you know, across the
country or just even in town. I can listen to
this podcast and you know, live the true life of
a trucker. And Marcus posted some media shots yesterday, and
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media shots of your friends always feel weird.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You know, It's like that, wait, did they make you
take your hat? Off.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
No, he kept us all had a big part of it.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Like we have branded hats that we put together because
these are custom fleet podcasts. So there there's a lot
of you know, me looking the part on camera. And
from that photo shoot that those three pictures came from.
There were seven thousand pictures taken of me, so they
can put me in any position, any any situation. I mean, but.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Those are the three that worked. It was just those three.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, they're gonna start cutting his face out and imprinting
it in the butt hut at the top of a truck. Hey,
Mark is.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Yeah, dude, they could put it anywhere, and just fortunate
that they're good people. I'm sure that they've got some
stuff that hit the cutting room floor that's just atrocious,
but they do a really just job put.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, yeah they did. But like you just look so
cheesy sometimes, you know, like you go look at it.
We all do, just like I look at all my
promotional photos on my cringe. Right, It's just like especially
when you know the person really you're like, that's not
your smile, smile, isn't that beautiful? That's photoshopped?
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Well, dude, And and sit in a room for that
long like, I don't know how long you guys did
when you're taking your your promo shots and your head
photos and stuff. But I was in there for eight
hours in that man.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
How long does it take to get a decent shot
of you?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Dude? Well you've seen them.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
My got eight hours. What a difficult model.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
And it was in Lincoln, Nebraska of all places, Like
I don't know if.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You c yeah, I don't think I could look pretty
that I've been there.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Nebraska is in a college town.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It was it is I think actually, but it's university
and it still sucks.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
There's nothing huss nothing going on.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I ever was corn Huskers, corn Huskers.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But Marcus Yeah, man, uh of what were we saying?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Well, I'm glad we're talking about his his glamour shots.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, you gotta you gotta get some new ones.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Not going to have seven thousand more take you need
seven thousand get bent, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Dude, I hate taking photos too, bro.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I My mom's a photographer, and I grew up with it,
right she she became a photographer, and I was like
two or something, but she would say one more for
four hours, yeah, and I would be I felt like
I was at the studio all day. I'd be exhausted,
I'd be hungry. She'd be yelling at me because I'm
her kids, so she can see.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I had the opposite problem in my marriage, which is
why I got divorced. H My ex husband just wasn't
a very good Instagram husband. I said, I said, hey,
don't make me look like I have four chins. Take
another one. And he'd be like no, and he'd hand
me the phone back. I'm like, you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
This is not working.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Out showing my best side. That's fair, Actually I see that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But yeah, I just I don't like getting my picture
taken because my mom tortured me. So even when we
have to do show photo for the show, I find
it very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You don't have the eyeballs for it. I don't have
the eyeballs.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well I could if I did that trick that the
dude from Twisters did he learned from Bill packs.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Don't they get dry?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And I get they get it's too bright? Yeah, it's
ever since I was a kid. I remember having sensitive
eyes where I just would squint all the time. He's
be too bright after wear sunglasses. And so when we.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Get our pictures taken.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I got to stare at this tiny little dot it's
like ten feet away or whatever, and my eyes just
start to water, like I'm crying.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So next one, that's why we're gonna do Blues Brothers theme,
so everybody can wear shades. I dig it and they'll
be done. It's so pain in the ass.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But uh, the guy from Twister, he said he was
in the sequels Twisters.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I guess yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
He said he learned from Bill Paxton. The trick to
keep your eyes from squinting is look direct like the
sun with your eyes.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Closed, like through the lids.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, it's probably not good for you, but that's what
doctors do to not squint, because you can't be squinting
on camera whatever to get the scene.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So he'll just.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Stare right at the sun with his eyes closed, and
he does. He did that, you know, I don't know
how many weeks before the shoot, but that he says
that helped and he could do it every every day
before the shoots.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Bill Paxxon died young, but it had nothing to do
with the sun trick. That's fine, own thing. Yeah, court
just walked in court.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
How do you feel about photo shoot?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Staring and judging.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Oh I die. I don't like them. I don't like
the results.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I think I never I don't results. They're still using
a picture of court that we took in a photoshop
like eight years ago.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
Just a good photo actually, yeah, photographs really good photographed well.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Eight years ago.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Yeah no, And actually I hated I hate I hate
that picture as well.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
You don't look any different than you did, Yeah, yesterday, a.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Little more gray and there's a way more gray.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
There's a ton more gray. It's getting into my mustache now.
As I was looking in the glance at myself in
the rearview mirror yesterday and the sun was kind of
hit my face and like, the whole mustache is turning gray.
It's gonna be my whole face is going to be
gray in probably another two years.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But when you took promo shots for your like Courton
Fatboy Show or Courton Blow those two. Yeah, yeah, Like
there's just like I hate every photo promotional photo that's
taken on it because what they do is they super
impose you, usually in something else. And anytime they do
that cheesy line where they cut you out of something,
it looks so corny. Yeah, they can put you in
front of anything and it looks corny.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Yeah, I never got super imposed, but I still hate
every all of those. I mean, I just don't like it.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And the clothing age is out and like so when
once that photo is a year removed, you just look
like a nerd.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, but Marcus in his shot, he's he's got like
this weird head tilt, like he's smiling and he's just
kind of like I got a goofy ta.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Were they a photo shopping different outfits on or did
you put all those on?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
No?
Speaker 6 (06:35):
That's it, so I basically took I think that I
had four different flannel shirts that they wanted me in,
like of different colors, and then they've actually been able
to take those four flannel shirts and turn them almost
any color. And then like the the big fur coat
that's that hat's not on me that time?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, I figured you weren't in full on like a
costume store doing this. Yeah, fix that weird.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I haven't fixed that word headtel where it looks like
you're gazing into somebody's eyes with pure love.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Maybe he was looking at the dog.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
When your mom was yelling at you, did you do
what she asked you to do? I feel like you're
criticizing me for following directions.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Here.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
They told me to tilt my head and smile, so
I fucking tilted my head.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's just a weird, corny tilt.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I'm not happy.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And by the way, I didn't do what my mom said.
That's why we were there for four hours.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, yeah, she's gone.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
We should see those pictures.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I'm in a little sailor outfit.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Sailor outfit. I want to see that for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think that one's on my Facebook. But yeah, I
think it is. It's it is a cute shot, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's the photoshots. The photoshoots never they never turned out well.
I feel like, I mean, everyone says, oh, it looks.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Fine, but yeah, at a certain point, I give up,
Like I just like I'm getting in to whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I'm getting the age where I'm getting there, right, I
just don't care anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah whatever, I'm like, just airbrush the wrinkles off my face.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Laura always complained to drop single week, so I'm I'm
like almost, well, I'm really sick of seeing him.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
To be honest with you, like, I think it's cool.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
But they also like they chopped my head onto the
most athletic and like, fat boy, that was.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
The best part for you.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Like I'm saying, like those pictures aren't him.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I look at it, I go, this is weird.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
This is this is this is your the new you market.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
You can pretend though you can tell people it's you, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Those truckers Stone.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Laura gets really upset with her photos that are on
the internet from our last show photo shoot, which I
think looked great, and she says, that's not what I
look like.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Because that's a reason that far there's a reason it's
great is because they added like they plumped my lips
and my cheeks and they really put freckles on my
face and like and I'm like, like I had to
tell him, and like I love our photographer, don't get
it twisted. He's an awesome dude, chick ass designs. Yeah,
but I had to tell him. I was like, I
look like a brats doll. Can you like toned down?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But then he did and the pictures are now fine.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yet still no, but it like.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I will say, the one photo I didn't like that
he sent of me was I'm clean shaven and he
puts stubble on my face and I just look homeless.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I thought.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I was like, he was like, but that's you, though,
I go take it off.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
I didn't realize he was photoshopping stuff. I thought he
was just taking pictures and you don't look.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That good, court, I know, I know, I haven't.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
I don't think it was that the same guy that
was in that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
No, no, that, but I will tell you also, those
pictures are also doctored because I remember him texting me
and being like, it's really pale. He sent me a
picture and I was like, oh my god, does my
face look like that? And he was like, yeah, right, buddy,
ha ha ha ha ha. And so like even our
pictures from mcminimon's they cleaned me up a little bit.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
So so as much as I hate that picture, I
actually look worse in real life.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah you look.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I but we had great, some great pictures that we
use for years from that shoot.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
We need some new ones badly because a lot of
the ones that are up. I think we're done what
three years ago?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Two years ago must have been about three.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Yeah, ye think it was right when you got here.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I love Lancelot. I think we should have him back. Yeah,
I used him.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
He's got a great eye.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, yeah, I used him for like head shots for
like public speaking. And he's so fast too, like, yeah,
that's a pair of these long eight hour things. It's
like we do this, this, this, and you go home. Yeah,
you want a competent, confident photography, but you know what
they want what they and they take five hundred pictures
in twenty minutes, so they just.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Do it quick.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And he's very uh he makes you feel very comfortable too.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah. I remember my mom, you know, she was a photographer.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
She this was still on hoseablods where you had films,
so you couldn't just sit there and go to a
wedding and snap a thousand pictures. Yeah, you had you know,
thirty yeah or whatever in a great shot. And that's
how my mom became so good. I remember I was
picking up some gear from an old photographer and my
mom lent her gear to because she was retired. And
he comes to me and he goes, your mom's the
best wedding photographer I've ever seen. And it was like
(10:50):
that felt good because back in the day she had
to do it for real. There was no photoshop. There
wasn't you had a light. Yeah, this hause blood camera
and you had your subjects.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
My friend's daughters just got married recently, and I remember
at the wedding, like you could hear the photographer. They
would they just hold the button up and they're just
like taking because they knew out of the thousand pictures,
there's one that I can use.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's like a paparazzi if you just listen closer, just going.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I bet you it's getting so good now that you
take those pictures and probably put them on the computer
and AI will pick out the ones that have all
the eyes open and everyone looking through at the camera
like the art of what your mom did.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Find the pictures were gone where this actor has cocaine
in their notes, right, And you know it's got to
be getting to where you don't even have to look
at the three thousand pictures.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
They even do that with with phones. I think like
Tanner's You're Android, I think that I've seen ads where
they if you take a bunch of pictures of the
family and this kid over here is I got a
goofy face, and this kid over here is blinking, we'll
just use AI and we'll just swap out this this
picture for another picture, so you can kind of create
your own so weird different picture.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
The moment you remember is the one that never happened.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
This AI is getting so good. We are so fucked,
we are so cooked as a society. Because there's stuff
that I'm watching that I I know it's fake only
because it tells me at the bottom it says it's
he I generated, And then I look at it and oh,
I can tell.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Some of this stuff is so good.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Like they've got these clips going viral where like, uh,
a guy and his two kids and his wife who
is very large, walks up to the counter at McDonald's
and he says, hey, can I get to two big max,
two large fries, four burgers, two large fries, and a coke?
And he goes, yeah, well now what now? What would
you like? Because he made it look like he ordered
for this fail It.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Was inappropriate, but it got it got a huge laugh.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
And it looks so real. It looks so real.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
I haven't seen all these these videos on TikTok where
it's it looks like a reporter standing up in front
of like a hurricane or whatever, and you know, and
we're reporting live from Florida, and no, this is not real,
like and theyring those together.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Look at this door, So.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Why don't you said lettuce or tomato on my burger?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Fixed this?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Now you need that fucking.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Lettuce and tomato on your burger because your colus all
levels are through the roof and you're currently two burgers away.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
From a stroke.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Y'all just finished up a batch of chocolate chip.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Those do not look good.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
We both know your fat ass is still gonna eat
them and chase it with a shot.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
All zimpic all that is AI, all of it? Look
how real that looks?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
It looks and sounds still a little bit pick Sorry.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
It's a little right.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I mean it's a little shiny.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Like that's today.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, for sure, I mean it's impressive.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Here's another one. Look at this and look how real
this ship looks?
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
She must be fucking the manager because how she.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Don't got no write ups even the AI the voices
are AI.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
No, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I give it.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
You know, maybe another couple of years before they like
do a full show or full movie. That's just it's all.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
A I will I refuse to see that.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Oh, I know there will be plenty of people who
won't see it. But all the people who don't see it,
there will be a million others who do.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It's the generation after this who won't drag their feet
like we will because we remember the old days. But
they will not.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The music producer Timberland, he is getting a lot of
ship on the internetright now because he used AI and
some music and and all these producers are like, dude,
they're just shitting on him because he started to use
AI yea And I think, yeah, I think if.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
You're gonna see that more and more where it's like
it was just to help out with blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, I bet there's I bet people are using it
to write lyrics all the time.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
The song generators that you know, like if you just
type in a few prompts, they'll write your country song
about pooping in your hand.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
No, it's like they're a lot more super gang yeah
right yeah right yeah, Like.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I wonder Ed Sheeran feels that there are thirty ed
cheering songs on the internet with music videos are that
don't exist. And I get fooled.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Like a month ago, I was like, OK, and shearing
song and I played it and we got a minute
and a half into it, and Drew goes like, I
think this is AI.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's happened to me multiple times.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
And what's what's crazy about that is now there's going
to be the battle, the legal battle over is that
is that copyright infringement because it's not You're not copying.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It just sounds like sound alike. This thing is using
AI steal his actual likeness.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
It's just like, but the music videos will they get them?
Because now you're using Ed's face use your music like
that seems like.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So there's already AI musicians and AI bands that are
top in the charts. There's a there's an AI artist
in Germany that made it to number forty eight on
the charts. There's an artist called Vinnie Prey number forty forty,
number forty four rather on TikTok Virals fifty chart.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And it's all to do you have to disclose.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Like you're supposed to, Like I see when I load
a video and says it asks you is this AI
or no?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And you know I know what I mean. For like,
if somebody were to put out a song and pitch
it to radio and they were to start playing it
on the radio under just whatever name they were given.
Do they have to disclose, Hey, this is an AI
song or is that something where we find out after
the fact, Like, I don't jokes on you, this was
(16:01):
an entirely AI generated song, and I think number two
on the Billboard Hot one hundred.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Now I think if you don't, you you got the
risk of being millievenillid. Yeah, because if if I find
out after three albums that this is not a real
band or whatever, and I've been listening to it forever,
I mean, you're gonna find.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Out eventually because like why is there no tour?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
There's also no loss, That's what I mean. So there,
you know, they probably don't if I came on the
air and it was an AI song, I don't think
i'd have to say it was an AI song. But
there's nothing in place to say that because.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Where's the line?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Like, so if AI helps you make the beat, but
you write an epic, say a rap or a song
over that beat, it's partially I mean, that's basically. I mean,
when you get a beat from someone, like if it
didn't exist and now it exists just because the computer
made it, I don't know where the line is and
I guess I'm not. I'm not as mad at that
(16:51):
ass a musician myself, I'm not that mad.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm okay using it as a tool. If you're using
it to write your entire song, that's then you're not mission.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Like if the vocals are AI generated, if everything about
it is ERRY generated, then it's like what Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
If you're using AI as a tool, then okay, it
just can't be the foundation of your your.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
If I need AI, I'm like, I'm trying to rhyme
with orange. Help me out, Yeah, slant rhyme because many
things rhym and I think nothing does.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Because a beat might be you know better than say,
if you're if it's like make it in the style
of X, Y and Z, you're also stealing all the
other parts of it from other people, so you're kind
of plagiarizing in a circle to profit. So the beat
I don't care so much about. But if you do
the voice, you're done. Let me ask you this, I'll
go I'll go to Marcus first.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Let's say you know, all these big bands are dying off, Aerosmith, Scorpions,
Van Halen, all these all these guys are dying off.
They can't too anymore? Are you okay with once they're
long gone, that band still producing records because AI is
now in control of it. So Aerosmith's gone, but AI's
got the voice of Stephen Tyler, they got Joe Perry's licks,
They've got you know, the guys, you know whatever, Brad
(17:57):
the Drummer's stuff, and he just makes a new song
out of their stuff. Are you okay with that?
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I guess, man, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Like the whole hologram thing that they were doing a
while back, where it's like Tupac's on stage again, it
was cool in the moment, but after that it was like, okay,
are we trying a little hard? Like that hologram doesn't
look that good. It's not that mind blowing. You're just
playing a song that he wrote twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
That that Tupac hologram that wasn't even Tupac.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's somebody else. It's a look alike.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And then they he just dressed and looked just like Tupac,
and that's what that is. That's not even really Tupac.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Well, and if you notice, it can't even really be Yeah,
and it won't even really be Aerosmith, right, like if
they're writing an Aerosmith album and it comes out and
it's AI because Steven Tyler's been dead for ten years,
I'm just it's not gonna be Aerosmith to me.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, but these new crowds, these new kids, they're not
going to know any difference. You know, Like these people
are still selling out Journey shows and it's not Steve Perry,
So you know.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
That's different to have one member different and then have
an entire AI produced album.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Like what are we talking about here?
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Because it in that Like in Journey's case, you can
play forever, right, you just replace them as they die,
and pretty soon you're under oath and you're just you
look at it and you say, oh, the some of
the hole is greater than the parts, and so we
just play under Oath songs with who we Have.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But money Typs. That's also and these and these and
these bands, these individual bands, they're companies.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's there.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Aerosmith is a company, right, so it's it's keep generating money.
What they'll do is well, I could see them aiing
the songs for the radio. And then there's a band
that sounds as close as they can get, that goes
on tour and performs.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
But here's my thing with that is that like even
if Aerosmith as they are right now, all still living,
put out a new album already, nobody gives a shit,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So it's like put all that aside, because you're totally right,
you would.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Just need a relevant artist, which I think that would
be hard.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I'm just saying, dude, I can see this happening, and
I almost guarantee that it does happen where these they
start making new songs and that cover band become a
thing where these bands are all dead but they still
need to tour, and we have.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
The one, yeah, the sanctioned band.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
The sanctioned band like you know, Kiss is going to
do that, and they're just kind have new guys.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Put the makeup on Kiss Official or some some title like.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That, and I can see the AI being involved in
all that.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
We have a not we the industry has a benefit
of time is a reset button. Whereas in my girls
who are nine and seven, my two oldest, when we're
in the car and they want to listen to like
music from our radio station, they're able to consume that
as new music like to them. If you know, if
(20:37):
a hit comes on and it's a jam, like a
timeless jam, they consume it as if.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's really time because it's new to them. Yeah, and
so we just remember the old days well and think
about this, like, one hundred years from now, could there
be a genre of radio stations like we have hip
hop rock oldies or whatever. Could there be a genre
of radio stations that's dead artist making new stuff? I know,
I also think niche I think so there's probably gonna
be radio stations that play old deep cuts, you know,
(21:05):
like like here's a song you never even knew existed
from a hundred years ago, and it's a bop because.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
It's popular and today.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But it wasn't back then. Yeah, I could see that happening.
And also I could see yeah, like you know, Aerosmith's
making new records, but it's only coming out on AI
dead radio or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Like somebody calls somebody, someone calls Chubby Checkers great great
grandson and say his B side just popped off. Like
that stuff's gonna happen where old music's gonna get refound.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I can see it happen.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
So I look at this too, and I think about
I mentioned this band under Oath, and some of you
guys will know them, I'm sure, but if you look
at their Wikipedia page and you go to the past
member spot, they'll normally be, you know, with any every
other band, they'll be just a list of the guys
that were in the band. Under Oath has a link
that you have to follow to go and see because
at one point in time they changed out every original
(21:56):
member of that band and there was nobody from the
original albums in and that happened for like an album,
and then they started peppering people back in. There's twenty
people that have made up this five person band any
one given time.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, I'm looking at the list of members right now
and I'm like, holy hell.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Everybodyster at it as as a brand, right they're not.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
That's not even a band. That's a brand.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
And we love under Oak and it doesn't matter who's
wearing it, we're gonna love it.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
But I mean, you look at a band like that
and that works, But then you look at a band
like Lincoln Park and they can't sell tickets because they
strayed too far from the path. People aren't but nobody
they put in there is going to be chester.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So I think that's why they're the anomaly there could
have been, though, Like I feel like if they got
a better Sarah whatever her name is, Amy Emily what
no that.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Arm she's from dead Sarah. Yeah, But I.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Just I think the band isn't bad.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It's just she's not that great. When I hear her sing,
I don't hear Chester or whatever they're like, I hear
a whole different tone. So if they got another duke,
is there is a cover band, a Lincoln Park cover
band that sounds more like Lincoln Park than Lincoln Park
does right now?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
What about that?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah? And I think that that's the angle you got
to go. It is tough. I think Chester is in
a lane with like the Michael Jackson's Mercury when and
My Freddy Mercury When you died? So did a little
piece no everything? Yeah, to me, if the.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Band, if somebody like Chester dies, the band's gone, let
it go.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's you.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
You had what you had, it's gone, now let it go.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I can you imagine limb bisguit without fred Durst?
Speaker 7 (23:28):
I mean yes, I dream of that every single day.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Fault.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It's it's Kofo's fault.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
I blame you that was That was Dave Knumy. He
was he was the boss. He pulled that the only.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
That I can think of that when it was time
to take a knee because they're gone, took the knee
all the way as the Beastie Boys. And maybe there
is another one out there, but there's no way. They
just are not the band. Yeah, And so I know
you all want it, don't you think we do too?
But it's good.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
So yes, I do think there are some bands that
can't do it, you know, like there are some movies
who can't that can't be rebooted, like Back to the Future,
you know what I mean, Like certain band's just not
gonna happen. Beastie Boys, it's never gonna happen. Yeah, right,
you know, like there's certain bands like that, but that's
like it these other bands like who cares? You know,
I don't know who's in skid Row. I don't know
that's who we're playing right now.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
One of my favorite punk bands, no use for a name,
their lead singer Overdosed. I think it's been about ten
years ago now, and they never put out another record, like,
never even another song. They've played a couple of live
shows with that guy's best friends filling in for him.
But it's just a tribute like they just you can't
replicate Tony Sly and it doesn't. When you listen to
(24:34):
it all put together, you're like, oh, he's got a
good voice. It's not that unique. Nobody else will do
it like he did. And I think it's just how
unique is your songwriting? Are you actually like a really
good band or did you get lucky and somebody saw
you in a mall and now you're making millions. I
don't think the people that are really the soul of
the band, when they die, they you can't go on.
(24:55):
And that was Chester, like you said, Beastie boys know
he's for a name. There's a thousand day different times
that people have tried and it just hasn't worked. Like
what you're talking about with Lincoln Park, I don't know
that you could have put anybody in there other than
the cover vocal guy. I mean, look, if Journey can
do it.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It can't be Lincoln. It can't be done.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's just you know, I mean.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
It's been done, but it's never it's never quite right.
I mean, look at Alison Change. Uh, you know, Stone
Table pilots. They've tried it. Like you put somebody else
in there, it becomes a it's a karaoke band.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But then like Marcus goes, you know, uh uh oh shit,
what was he saying?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Oh God, damn it. Sorry, I had had a thought
to me.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
I don't remember what I just said.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I thought, I trust me. It was a decent point.
I just don't remember.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
It was the only band that has ever done any
sort of business, and and they basically did it by
changing entirely was van Halen. When you you go from
David Lee to Sammy there's those are two different bands,
even though they share a lot of band members and
a name.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I was gonna say, you know, Marcus says, you know, like, uh, nobody,
you know the some bands you just can't mimic. An
AI's here and that going yeah, hold my computer chips. Yeah,
I'm gonna make the shit out of.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
This super mimicable.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
So we'll see what happens. I know I was going
to change a lot of things, But I do think
cover bands are going to be a thing in the
future where some of these bigger bands that can't tour anymore,
it's gonna get new people because like you guys said,
it's a brand, it's a business. Yeah, and they don't
ever like talk money go right, I mean they're gonna
like a CDC like.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
They haven't take it back that that is the band
that has actually done it. That's the only but again,
you you kind of have to change the way the
lead singer sounds. But that is the one band that
has changed lead singers.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But they have.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Songs that are just so good and so fun that
I want to I want to hear these songs till
the day I die. And I could see them going
on tour with just different people.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
And honestly, I have a hard time in a CDC.
Fans are always like what are you talking about? But
I even have a hard time telling the difference between
Bond Scott and Brian Johnson.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Oh really, me too, Actually, I have a heart like.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I like I when when you play them back to back,
I can definitely tell a difference. But like if you
were to play one song versus the next from like.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I wouldn't be able to tell you.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I'd be like, I don't know. So it's like I
feel like it's so closely represented. Yeah, that's why it worked.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
And this I mean, and the songs are so good.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I mean that when but they still follow the same
formula song I do.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I do like I'm doing this a lot today.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
What the hell? Yep, the brain has a certain amount
of battery, dude, I'm running low y anyway, Yeah, music.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Ail us.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
But I do think that, Yeah, the cover bands are
going to be a thing in the future. AI is
going to be a thing.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Whether we like it or not.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It's it's here because if they're thinking, oh, we don't
have to pay an artist, we can just you know,
because a lot of these people, some of these AI songs,
like the country ones that they're talking about being gay
and stuff, they're funny and they're actually kind of good,
you know, And so certain people are just not, especially
young people are not going to care that they're AI
at all. So record companies are going to see that
and go, let's just let's just bypass the artist altogether
(27:57):
and make a and make a thing.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Is You'll you'll have AI written songs and AI the
all the musicians, all the music quote unquote musicians will
be AI. But you still have one person, because you
still have if you want to go out on tour.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
There's got to be a guy who, like you want
your dress.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
One person up on stage to you know, your your
Taylor Swift or whatever go up on stage that you
can cheer for, and everything else in the background is
just the AI generated music.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You have to want to sleep with the person you know,
like right, Like, isn't that part of it that there's
not not everyone? But like say you have a pop
star and they're a sex symbol. Someone's got to be
real or we're driving.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I suppose it could make all that a I too.
They're already doing that in Japan, Like there are AI
pop stars in other countries really get it.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But if you were fantasizing, yeah, personally, which I do,
it's nice to have the idea of a warm body
at least for now.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I CDC.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
I think of humping Brian Johnson. I mean, that's that's what.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
They could do.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It like the gorillas, you know that right down And
I don't know, I'm.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Just behind a screen.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I'm just saying arts cooked. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad
that we saw we saw when it was good, sure,
because it's all downhill from here.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
This is it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I agree with that statement that it feels so likely
we get a good fight before that. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, yeah, like the movie things.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I was just reading a story yesterday that movie theaters
believe that the movie the movie theater business has less
than twenty years.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Oh yeah, no, way less.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
They said ten. I'd say ten, they said twenty years.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Yeah. I think they're being optimistic because if you can
the screens that we have in our in our homes,
like you can get a seventy two inch TV screen
set that in front of your couch, that's as good
as a movie theater screen, same size, at least as
far as your vision goes. You get the surround sound.
You don't have to deal with people chomping on their
popcorn in your ear, or talking three rows back, or
(29:45):
all the crap that goes along with going to movie theaters.
I'd much rather watch it at home. So if you
can deliver a new movie to me at home, I'm
not going to the theater.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
But you're an old school guy. You're telling me that
you would have no problem not going to the theater anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, because it's become such.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
A god awful experience. I saw that last Captain America
movie and I'm seeing you know, cell phone screens lit up,
people checking their phone all the entire movie, talking at
full volume.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I guess I'm just I'm just sound as grumpy as Court.
But I love going to the movie.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
He said he was old school. You didn't mean that way.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
I used to love going to the movie theaters. But
it is it's gotten to the point, especially after COVID.
I think everybody got used to watching things at home
and just having loud conversations while the moviees going cod COVID.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Dicked people up, you know, like we're all just assholes now, right, Yeah, yeah,
So I hope it doesn't die. I love the movie
genre so much. My guess is it'll get smaller, to
the point where it's like like one, you know, like
Disney will own their studios like a movie theater for
their Marvel and Star Wars.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
And all that.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Sheh.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Here's my thing, though, I mean, it's so frustrating because
it's like and I know it's like it comes with
the territory, but it's like we're paying these actors and
actresses millions of dollars for their role in this movie,
and then you're getting and because of that, and because
of you know, budgets and whatever else and production costs.
Now the AMC feels like they need to charge you
(31:04):
seventeen dollars for a ticket, and now you're gonna get
charged fifteen dollars for a bucket of popcorn because everybody
needs to make their money. But it's like, why don't
you just you know, cut costs and make it more
affordable for us?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That's what's gonna do.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
And it's just like greed, and it's like there's a
solution here. And it's not just telling people to get
back to the movie theaters. Okay, make that possible.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You may, you make the better, make better movies, that's all.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
That's a huge part.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Makes better movies, and stop being so goddamn greedy because
you know that thirty three cent popcorn is not worth
ten dollars. You know what I'm saying, Like a family
of four cannot afford to go to the movies if
they're struggling, and it's it's your own damn faults. I
feel like I agree, you make ship movies. It's all
reboots and sequels these days. Take some chances, have some balls,
and make some original content because you know it's out
(31:49):
there and the prices need to go down, and they
clean your goddamn theaters because when you like, you go
into the theater and it's all sticking, gross, and then
the sound sucks and the screen's broken, and like all
that shit adds to it. And these theaters are not
putting money into their facilities.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
If I want busted facilities, I'll just watch it at home.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
But it's also tech is eating them up. You know,
for less than a thousand dollars, you can get eighty
five inches, and you know, I have an eighty five
inch TV. Now, I've not been to the movies since
because you just look at it and you're like, that's crisp.
I'm here. This is great now. Granted, I don't chase
the new movies as.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Much love having big TVs at my house, but I mean,
there's my favorite movies I'm going to see in the theaters,
you know, and I just hope they don't die. I
know they're going to, but yeah, not today, not today.
I'm gonna I'm gonna keep them alive as long as
like I'm buying the eighty dollars popcorn bucket when it
comes out fantastic.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I got you guys.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
It's like with all that, it's like, shouldn't that on
its own keep the industry alive?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
How are they?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
What the how are they hurting so fucking bad? Well,
we need a Boppenheimer every year.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
And they have to have a profit margin. You know,
they're hurting compared to their projected incomes. You know, the
rest of us are just down here in the weed.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
It's like, there's CEO. They're still making millions. Yeah, they're
doing fine, millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Cuts have to be somewhere else.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yeah, you guys are letting the the experience die? Are we?
Are we responsible for this? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Okay, t Off, What a great job would it be
to like be the like from the studio seth Rogen's character.
Wouldn't it be great to be the guy who like
green lights movies like this movie sucks, I'm not paying
for this. I this movie's dope. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
I bet it would be fun, but it would also
be probably a nightmare because you're gonna have all of
the investors and the you know, the CEO and all
these other people over your shoulder, going, why are we
doing that? This is the safer play we should be
If I'm putting money up on this, we should be
doing this instead.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I will shut them up because I know it's best
with the movies, these fucking suits. Yeah, and I'm gonna
be like, no, it's a zombie movie and the zombies
have sex, so that's what we're doing.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
And if that bombs, then you're you're fired.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I do feel like I could pick good dress. I
do feel like as a I don't know, maybe it's
different when you're in there, but I do feel like
I could pick good movies. I feel like I could
pick better scripts for Will Smith, and Will Smith could, yeah,
I could. I think I could save his career if
I had an.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Opportunity, like Will Smith would would beg to differ with you.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
I could save his career by telling him to just
stop shut the fun.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I feel like before he did so many bad movies
that are just bad choices, you know, And I feel
like he just needs somebody like me needs to tell
him like, hey, dude, you shouldn't have done Wild While West,
you should have done The Matrix.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You boner, And I would have.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Told him to do the matrix and stop slapping people.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Just title it just the two of us, and then
you just break it down how you'll bring him back
from the edge that big Willie style. Don't ditle it
big Willy. Where you going?
Speaker 7 (34:34):
You got things to do?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I guess we are. We're getting after it.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Where you going?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Are you going to court?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I'm leaving you guys, all right?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Him looking at that thing is like your podcast is
running along and I'm leaving.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I guess it is. We're at thirty five, almost thirty
five minutes as I've read, we got a meeting going up. Yes,
we do what we do have them.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
He's gotta listen to these guys talk for forty minutes.
Hope it's not that long boring, Marcus, Are you good?
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:03):
The only thing I was really thinking about this theater
conversation is I'll be in line for when their wholesale
and stuff to buy a popcorn machine, because I gotta
think for movie theater popcorn and I can't find it
anyplace else.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah, So I'm in.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Eight years, dude, you'll be out there in front of regal.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, all right, we will see you tomorrow. We'll have
another two hundred dollar gift card to the Bomber Brothers
for you if you're listening to this on June twenty.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Fifth, when we're recording it.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Also, what else beef will be in here?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
And uh are we teasing?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Comedian Jeremy Piven's gonna be on the show. To Jeremy,
Jeremy Piven, Jeremy Jeremy, I always say, Jeremy.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Gonna be like who you call him.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
I'm gonna clean, I wash My, I'm gonna call him
Arty the whole time. Ari sorry, Ari Gold, don't call
him and Jeremy just Jeremy and already and get.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Away with it.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
But I'm a big Jeremy Piven fan. He's now doing
stand up and he's gonna be I can't remember where
he's performing, but we'll give you all that information.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I think.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Okay, we'll have some passes for you.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
We'll talk to Jeremy, Jeremy nice Jeremy Piven and talk
to me, you know about old school and all the
good mantrage.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
And so much stuff over the years.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, So I'll be tomorrow. I think he's gonna be
on at nine thirty.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Then Miami Trap terminated you've been listening to Tanner, Drew
and Laura's Donkey Show, heard daily at one oh five
nine the brew dot com. May God have mercy on
all of our souls.
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