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August 28, 2024 37 mins
Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Gautam Sikka about lung health.  Pike also speaks with Bill Hendricks about AI in industry.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
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starts right now.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
I'm looking at a map on TV of what is
this supposed to scare us into thinking it's hot?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Will? Does that scared you? Look at that.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Ninety nine Houston. It's not gonna be ninety nine today.
Oh it's the heat index. They can't even go with
the real temperatures because they're not that bad anymore. Now
they got it scared us with a purple heat index. No,
I'm not scared. I'm not scared of temperature. I don't
like being overheated. But I'm not gonna stay inside just
because the sun's out.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
This is Wednesday. We've got a lot on the on
the docket today.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
We'll be talking first in the second segment to doctor
Gautam Sika about our lungs and I, you know this
may be a first Well, I don't know that we've
ever had specific discussion of lungs and how to make
ours better as seniors, because I would have remembered this
and whatever he tells me that I should be doing

(01:47):
to strengthen my lungs and increase their capacity, I'm gonna
do because I'm no quitter and it takes it takes
legitimate lung power to do the things I like to
do outdoors and not get winded. After that, in the
third segment, we're going to talk to Bill Hendrix. He

(02:09):
is the president of the Americas for a company that
a lot of you probably haven't heard of.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
This man.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
It's called Cognite, and it's not an American based company,
but he handles the Americas for Cognite and they're a
software company that works with energy and power companies around
the world to make them more efficient. And we're going
to talk about manufacturing in these United States and how

(02:39):
for three straight months.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
May, June and July.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
I think it was her April May June. The all
the information's out, American manufacturing kind of slumped. Not a
good sign, not a good sign under the current administration.
I'm gonna ask him to just how much politics, how
much of a role politics place in manufacturing. We'll get

(03:03):
to all that later. We have other things to share.
And boy, there's lots of all the stuff that's messed
up in d C, in major cities. I bet you
will that we won't get to any of that though today,
because we've got a lot going on, starting where we
typically do pretty decent amount of rain again yesterday, if
you happened to be under the darker clouds, there were

(03:26):
darker clouds and lighter clouds in the sky. Dark ones
brought rain. The light ones just provided shade, which kept
temperatures down. I was stunned to see and hear some
of the temperatures around town early this morning. High seventies,
eighty eighty one. Maybe really a pleasant departure from the now.

(03:47):
There was some humidity in the air. Don't get me wrong.
It wasn't all fluffy.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Puppies and kittens, but it was still way.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Better than a hundred.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Today's probably going to be similar to yesterday.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Good chance for some rain sometime today, somewhere within the
sound of my voice and of greater importance to us all,
it's it's just it's gonna be nice.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
It really is.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Lows in the like around eighty plus or minus a couple,
which is not bad this time of year, and highs
inside certainly inside one hundred. And once we get a
little bit more of these clouds, it's going to be
more like mid nineties, even dare I say it low nineties,
depending on where we are around town. Anything's better than

(04:33):
the last two week. It's too early to blow the
whistle on summer and just flip the page to fall.
But anything. Don't take anything over what we had the
past few weeks. As for official weather, highs and lows
and haiku courtesy of Texas Indoor Air quality Specialists, pay
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(04:56):
Here we go, you ready, Yes, here we go. Rain
for a full week could wash out the holiday. At
least it's cooler, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Kind of liked that one, didn't you? But you don't
want to admit it.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
It's good, it's good, and just how good will I'll
give it a seven point two.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Seven point two. I'm gonna write that.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Down, look at it again, and just admire it. In
the markets thanks to Houston Goldexchange dot Com. I'm never
gonna do the markets in Haiku. That would just be
too complicated and would take too much time to be
creative with it, I think.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
So we'll just roll with them.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Early board was all red, or at least light red,
and that included oil and gold. Oil was inside seventy
five bucks, but as it has been for nearly four
years now, that's at least ten dollars higher per barrel
than it should be, and it will be again if
things go well. In November, gold took a hit, but
it's still firmly a top the twenty five hundred dollars

(06:01):
mark per ounce, which means those gold bars you have
in the in the closet or plastered inside a wall,
that'd probably be a better place for him than just
up in a closet somewhere.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know, I have four hundred ounces? How many pounds?
Is that real? Real? Quickly, four hundred divided by sixteen.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Oh, come on, I'm looking it up.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Twenty five twenty five pounds of gold, So yeah, you
could could haul one under each arm pretty easily. I
may start lifting weights just in case I trip over
a bunch of gold bars and feel kind of foolish
for only picking up one in each hand. I'm gonna
try to get up to two bars per hand, just
so that then that would be a smooth That would
be a smooth. Four million dollars wouldn't be a bad

(06:53):
little windfall if you could find them. We'll see how
that works out. Now for the interesting stuff, where's my clock?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Will? Where's the clock? You've had up for two straight days.
You've got it right.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
And now all I'm looking at is some forecast from Topeka, Kansas.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
That's what I like. That's what you want.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
It's the Weather Channel. Yeah, they're gonna show us the
entire world at some point, got all these little isobars
and heat waves and cool spells, and there's nothing of
significance going on except for a little rain along the
entire Gulf coast from Louisiana to Mexico.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Other than that, it's pretty quiet.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
There's even a little yellow thing out in the western Atlantic.
It's not supposed to do anything. And then there's another
wave somewhere a little farther south, kind of in that
little trough where these things tend to occur and tend
to breathe life first, but it's a long ways from

(07:55):
impacting us. Well, we gotta go down. Still no clock, Still,
no clock.

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Speaker 2 (09:42):
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Speaker 4 (09:54):
KPRC is partly cloudy Wednesday and not so bad. This
we're going to tackle, well, we're not going to tackle,
and we're going to talk about our lungs and how
they change with like everything else, I guess they change
with age. And to explain, I'll bring in doctor Gautam Sika,
assistant professor at ut help Mcgovernment Medical School of Medicine

(10:17):
in Pulmonary Critical Care. He kind of knows a whole
lot more than most of us do or ever will
about lungs. Thank you for your time, Doc.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Thank you, this is really exciting.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Thanks for inviting me. I appreciate your time.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
So what's the average healthy lung capacity for somebody and
say their twenties or thirties, And I'm leading up to
something as you can well tell.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
So.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
You know, the lung capacity really changes with age, but
it should never be the limiting fact in anybody's longevity.
So it's always yeah, so we always put it, you know,
in perspective with the percentage of somebody's somebody's lung health
has depending ponds, uh they age, but also their race

(11:05):
as well as their gender. So yeah, overall, I think
the lungs are typically not the limiting factors. But as
we all age, all our other agens age with us, right,
and so often we see that it's it's the other comobiities.
Sometimes sometimes things like people aspirit get pneumonias that affect

(11:25):
the lung lung capacity eventually. So so, yeah, so age
certainly affects, but it should never be the limiting factor.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
So if we if we managed to maintain generally good
lung health, then our lungs, even no matter what we're doing,
they're just not going to be able to take in
as much air as they did when we were younger.
Is that is that a factor of them shrinking or
do they become a less elastic like a bladder or what?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, no, that's right.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
So, you know, the the how well the lung functions
depends upon many factors. Some of them come from within
the lung, like the elasticity of the lungs itself, but
it also uh the compliance of our chest wall or
the structures of a chest wall. You know, they can
also affect our lungs. Typically we see that our chest
wall becomes a little bit more stiff as we all age.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
And that the only thing. Probably that's not the only thing.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
There's so many things that affect how well we breathe, right, uh,
And and you know, so it also affect upon your
cardiovascular system. You know, if you're if you're able to
supply oxygen and get rid of carbon taxide. Your cardiovascular
system has to be pumping the blood all the organs
well enough in order to carry that oxygen, so you're

(12:42):
all your organs are happy. So certainly lungs could be
one of the powerhouses of all the organs, but by
themselves can be affected by their surroundings. Especially if you
know the lungs are not in good health, then certainly
one can get into so much more trouble as we
all age.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Let's stick with healthy lungs for a second and talk
about and we'll get back.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
To the other.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Part of it where we talk about conditions and diseases
and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
What can I do as a sixty eight.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Year old man to increase and maybe just restore some
lung capacity as I get older.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, so there's so many things we can do to
you know, I always say age is not reversible, but
it's modifiable. So we can certainly modify our risk factors
for lungs to age. We can actually modify those. Right.
So one of the things that I always tell people
is to stay conditioned.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Right.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
When I say condition means you condition your respiratory muscles,
your respiratory muscles make you breathe even though your lungs
might be in good health. And if you're not moving
your muscles well enough, that lung is not doing a
whole lot. So you want to make sure that you
keep your respiratory muscles and good health. And the way
to do it is just simple little bit of an
exercise every day. If you can't do a whole lot

(13:58):
like aerobic exercise rather et cetera, do breathing exercises. Breathing
exercises really work your inspiratory muscles. And then also, you know,
nutrition plays such a big role. I can't you know,
under emphasize that or overemphasize that. I apologize the the
if you're if you're malnourished in your proteins, those proteins

(14:19):
really maintain the integrity of all the structures that help
help you breathe. So if you're not keeping up with
your nutrition, eating right, eventually your lungs are going to suffer.
And then, of course, you know.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Ahead I was gonna say, we truly do almost every
almost every interview I do on maintaining our health and
living longer comes back to exercise and nutrition.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
That's those are just two.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Things that we we cannot possibly ignore if we're going
to live long time, can we absolutely?

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Absolutely? And the other other you know, the other side
is also true if you uh, you know, if your
weight goes a whole lot and you gather what we
call abdominal obi city or more weight around your belly,
that's going to limit your lungs to work well as well.
So we need to make sure that we have adequate
nutrition and and and you know, not underdo it, not

(15:12):
overdue at the same time, certainly, you know, keeping a
well benefd diet in in lean fats which is you know,
lean proteins with a little less fat, in addition to
having good vitamin intake, which is fruits and vegetables, because
at the end of the day, you know, vitamins are

(15:35):
kind of they're required for bodily functions, including how well
you can utilize your oxygen put it into your.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Doctor gotem siga on fifty plus here before we run
out of time, talk about generally lung disease and how
how good or how bad treatment options are these days.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah, So I categorize long disease into three different category.
One of them is your airway, which is your tubes,
that carry air into your angular sacks. Those diseases are
typically obstructive lung diseases. You might might have heard about
COPD or asthma. So these are the diseases where you
can't get air out, and that's because your tubes limit

(16:18):
you from doing that. They are stolen up or just narrowed.
So one thing we could do is make sure we,
you know, adopt entire risk, essentially staying away from air
pollution first and second hand smoke, even things like we
know now the last few years of research that things

(16:39):
like waves and easigrets are bad for our lungs. So
if we prevent us from all these exposures, and if
you do have any instructive lung disease, use your inhalers, right.
It's not just about getting prescribed. Somebody gives you an
in here. There's different types of flers. You need to
know which one is meant for you, but also how
to use it. So when patients leave our clean we

(17:00):
give them a little barcode which helps them go to
these videos that help them actually know how to use
the anhalers. We don't want to just spray our mouth right.
Thealer the medication needs to reach your lungs and.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
And then the second category of disease, I call it
as that affects your alveular sacs and the structures around it.
We call it sometimes you hear the term lung fib
process as a whole. Right, that is typically the scarring
of the lungs. And why does it happen. The way
we think about it is that first some swelling happened,
and then when that swelling went unchecked, scarring happened. So

(17:40):
if you have a cost for a long time, I
would say anything over four to six weeks, go get
it checked. Don't let that swelling turn into a scar
because that's when people can't get air into springs from
their lungs into their bloodstream.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
This is fascinating.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
We may need a second We may need a second
segment with you at some toy because I've still got
a questions sitting here.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Fortunately, yeah for today though, we are out of time.
I'm so sorry, doctor Gaut.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
I look forward to talking to Oh, yes.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Please, thank you so much. Bubbah.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
All right, we have to take a little break here
on the way out. Boy, that was interesting stuff, and
I do have more questions. I'll get to him at
another time UT Health Institute on Aging speaking of good
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Speaker 1 (19:48):
Aged to perfection. This is fifty plus with Dougpike.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
All Right, welcome back, Betty Blush, Thank you for listening.
Certain to do, appreciate it. Thanks to doctor Seeker for
his time.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
We will shift to a very different gear in this segment,
talk about US manufacturing which its slumped for the third
straight month back in June, and is caused perhaps perhaps
not for alarm, but at least for concern and to
explain a little bit about what's going on, and while
I will enlist the help of Bill Hendricks, president of

(20:29):
the Americas for Cognite, which creates software for some of
the world's largest oil and gas and power and utilities companies.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Welcome to fifty plus.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
Bill, Thank you, Doug, thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Yeah, I really appreciate this because this is way out
of my area of expertise. What's your gut tell you
about the state overall of American manufacturing right now?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Well, American manufacturing is really based on demand pull, so
that could be houses, cars, clothing, just you know everyday.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
Things that that people use.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
And you know, interest rates certainly affects people's willingness to
go out and buy things.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
So sure, I think.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
That that's really the direct correlation we're seeing here as
as interest rates to have gone up and stayed there
for for a period of time.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
What are the biggest negatives now in manufacturing? What are
we building? The least of that we were just putting
together like crazy five or six years ago.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
So it's uh mostly heavy industrial things like aerospace, Uh,
cars have been reduced some. And then even the housing market,
it's it's been uh mixed around the country, and you
know there's lots of things that manufacturers.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
Make that goes into houses, so that definitely drives demand.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
How do how does US manufacturing compare alongside that sector
and other countries in parts of the world.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
Well, we're we're definitely better than Europe.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
They've they've seen a much much higher impact on their
manufacturing results over there.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
You know, some parts of the world.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Like like China continue to be relatively strong.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
They're they're suppliers to the world.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
In Southeast Asia is still running fairly strong.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
What is China doing differently that keeps them strong in
a period this week for most of the rest of
the world.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
So you know, they're a low cost manufacturer and uh,
you know, they've they've got some integrated supply chains in
some areas, so, uh, you know, they're they're really plugged
into the global demand around the world.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Sure, So how would you explain the relationship between energy
and power and in all its forms, because your company
is so tightly tied to all of that, and com
tie the two energy and power to manufacturing. They're very
dependent on each other, aren't they absolutely.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
So everything that you manufacturer takes raw materials that come from.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
You know, oil and other natural natural products and takes energy.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
So the demand for those is going to be directly
related to the demand for manufacturing goods around the world.
And what we've seen is that, you know, the demand
in those areas is still relatively strong, but it's definitely
affected by the manufacturing capacity and output across the country.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
You happen to have a crystal ball on your desk,
it tells you anything about which way domestic manufacturing might go. Say, oh,
I don't know, maybe starting in November.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, so you know, the National Manufacturing Association just came
out with the report that that projected and this was
in the conjunction with Deloitte that over the next ten years, uh,
they expect that manufacturing will be strong. Of course, that
depends on the overall macro economic environment and interest rates

(24:09):
and demand.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
An interesting aspect.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Of this, Doug, is that even though the demand has
been weak, there's actually a shortage of workers in the
manufacturing area.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Since yeah, since COVID, we've really seen that.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
The the there's about five hundred thousand jobs identified as
as being short in the manufacturing sector in the United States.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
So there's still a lot of employment opportunities.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
And with the projected growth that the National Association of
Manufacturers has projected that would lead to somewhere between one
point eight and three point eight million job shortage.

Speaker 6 (24:51):
In the next ten years.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
That's frightening.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah so, but but it's good news for people
who want a job because there are jobs that we
got out there in the manufacturing sector.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Well, that leads me to one other question.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
I'm sitting here on Bill Hendricks by the way from
Cognite on fifty plus here talk about AI.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Where is that going? What do you see it?

Speaker 4 (25:12):
What role do you see it playing in the next
five to ten, fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Manufacturer, I think it's going to be I think it's
really going to be transformative.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
So all of these industrial.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Manufacturers have a tremendous amount of data. And if you
think about our personal lives, we've gotten used to just
simple access to data.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
In our lives.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
You get on our phone and Google tells us what
restaurants are open, what they're rated, what they cost. It's
all in the palm of your hand, right, But industrial
manufacturers haven't figured that out yet, and a lot of
has to do with the complexity of their data they have.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
You know, it's it's it's not simple, simple data.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
So being able to put in a what we call
it data operations platform that gives simple access to.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
That data is a foundational capability that will allow the
manufacturers to really get ten times, one hundred times.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
More value out of the data than they're getting today.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
So that that also influences the workforce with workforce because
more and more of the workforce is going to need
those digital skills in order to have impact on their employers.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah, the big sci fi fear about AI is that
it's going to ultimately render us obsolete, wipe us off
the earth.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
You ever see that happening?

Speaker 6 (26:34):
I really don't. I really see that.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
The digital future is really about enabling humans to do
things faster, more efficient than with a higher impact on
the bottom line.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
And I think there will definitely be a change in
the skills.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Required of people everybody from engineers to the people on
the platform floor to the.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
People turning wrenches.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
They're going to have that Google in their hand where
they have all the data that they need in order
to do their job much more effectively. But they're gonna
be able to They're gonna need to be able to interact.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
With that data, and so those digital skills are going
to be very, very important.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Down to a minute, Bill, I hate to tell you that,
but how much time does it typically take to stop
a slide like.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
We've had going on?

Speaker 4 (27:24):
And can it be done any faster without risk of
sort of overcooking the steak?

Speaker 6 (27:30):
I think it.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
The biggest thing is the macroeconomic situation, doug Right. It
really comes down to you know, manufacturing is about demand.
You can't manufacture or inventory, you're just gonna hold those costs.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
It's not gonna be good for your company.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
So people want to manufacture what people want, and you know,
if people aren't buying things off the.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Shelves, then that's going to impact manufacturing.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Boy, it's all. Every piece of the puzzle is always
put together. We just have to figure out.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
How to read it. I guess.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
Huh, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
It's right there.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
That's what you guys, that's what you do. I do
what I do, and I want you doing what you
do because it sounds to me like you're doing it
very well. Sounds to me like Cognite is helping a
whole lot of companies around the country, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
And around the world. That's where you guys are Finland based, is.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
That right, we're actually at a Norway and Norway I'm sorry, Yeah,
I apologize to the Norwegians.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
That's okay, uh yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
In here in in Houston, you know, we're working with
some of the major companies like selling these down in
clear Lay with has Oxy and you know, we're very
vibrant here in the Houston area as well.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
As I would imagine with with your ties to oil
and gas. Certainly, thank you so much. Bill Hendrix from Cognite.
Thanks a lot, buddy than my pleasure. Yeah, I'd like
to have you again on some time. You know a
lot more than most anybody I know about this, and
I want to talk. I want to pick your brain
some All right, thank you, Ah, we gotta go on
the way out.

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I'll tell you.

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and make sure it's working right, usually within twenty four

(29:22):
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the roof, come off the ladder and say, all clear
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Of what they found.

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to do it, and quite importantly the cost. Now you
can either waste your time and get a bunch more estimates,
or you can go ahead and trust Bronze Roofing like
I have for better part of twenty years.

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Now, I think.

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Speaker 2 (30:31):
Eight one four eight zero ninety nine hundred. What's life
without a nap? I suggest to go to bed, sleep
it off.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Just wait until the show's over, Sleepy. Back to Doug
Pike as fifty plus continues, Here we go.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Last segment of the program starts right now. Thank you
all for joining us and allowing Will and me to
enter your lunch space as it were, Today's National bow
Tie Day.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
By the way, look at good dapper Will. How did
you know? What are you talking about? A bow tie?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
You got a it's a button. Never mind, it's a
big button. Looked like a bow tie for a second.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Okay, well, I'm gonna give you three shots here.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Weren't you at the family reunion or BFFs or anybody
seeing Jim BFFs.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
God, that's the longest one too.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Are you a type A, B, C or D friend?
Series of videos on it are going viral, it says here.
Most people think they're an A, which is the overly
responsible one who organizes everything, or a B the B
friend is the flighty one whose phone is always dead.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
That's that's weird.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Type as it says here, high achievers who like being
in charge. Type b's are more chill. Type c's are
like type a's but hide their emotions better. And Type d's, well,
they're just irritable, grumpy old people. Grumpy people, not old people,
grumpy people. I'll go back over to my other page

(32:20):
for a minute. Almost laughed out loud this morning when
I heard that Kamla Harris is talking now about if
she's elected now, not now, but if she's elected, she's
gonna build a wall along the southern border, the same
southern border that was getting a wall built when she
and her acting president. And I almost have to wrap
quotes around acting like right now, that poor guy when

(32:43):
they took office four years ago. All the stuff was there,
but they said, no, shut it down. Well, miss Harris,
you're effectively in charge right now. The money, the materials
are already in place. So I don't know, maybe you
stop stop cackling and get cracking on that wall. Sam
Kamala Harris, by the way, now says after years of

(33:03):
supporting mandates that we drive EV's, Harris said this week
she no longer supports an EV mandate.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
She's goly.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
She she has gotten hold of President Trump's policy book
and is telling Americans exactly what they want to hear
out of his book, one failure after another on their watch,
with her fingerprints all over every one of them. And
now she's doing a one point eighty if we'll elect her,
and if we do, we're idiots, and she won't do.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Any of that.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
She'll I know what she's gonna do. You know what
we all do. We all know what she's gonna do.
It just depends on how many people want socialism or communism.
Just yesterday she reversed course on establishing fixed prices at
grocery stores, which barely make two cents on the dollar.
By the way, She's decided now not to do that

(33:59):
because it got it got backlash. She's throwing everything she's got,
everything she can at the wall, just to see what sticks.
She's a leopard. She's not going to change her spot.
She hadn't changed her passion for socialism or communism or whatever.
She won't call her plans out loud. She just kind
of talks in circles and riddles and gibberish, which is

(34:21):
why she won't do live unscripted interviews, by the way,
and they probably will never let her do that. Her
handlers know she'll slip up and say what she really
thinks and just punch another hole in her campaign's.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Hole down to the bottom.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
We go two and a half minutes right well in
New York, so you'll have a good picture of why
that city's in the dumpster. New York City has six
hundred and eighty hotels, one hundred and thirty five of
which have been converted into full time nothing else shelters
for migrants one in five of New York City's hotels

(34:58):
catering in there, and tirety to people who, for the
most part, shouldn't even be in our country, and about
whom we know little or nothing, and for whom we're
providing tremendously more services and accommodation than we do our
own veterans and seniors and homeless. Mississippi's had about enough

(35:20):
governor over there, furious with Democrats in the open border,
which they perceive in Mississippi as an intentional.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Failure, by the way, which it is. They're right.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
It's cost in Mississippi, which is exactly a wealthy state.
It's cost in little old Mississippi more than one hundred
million bucks, which includes seventy seven million just for health
care for illegal immigrants and one point seven million to
keep the ones among them in jail, the ones who
commit crimes cost them a one point seven million for

(35:52):
that interesting concept.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
By the way, Speaking of prison.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
A prison in Ohio just finished serving a five course
gourmet meal to the public, with every bit of those
meals prepared by inmates.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
I like that, actually, I.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Like that program it's gonna build confidence and these these
men who were incarcerated, it's gonna give them a sense
of purpose. I would hope probably some some just good
all around rehab for these guys, and it prepares them
to have a very valuable skill when they get out.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I like it. I like it a lot.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
All right, well we're back. Weren't you at the family reunion?
Anybody seeing Jim or ready for takeoff? Anybody's seen Jim.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's good. I'm so glad you went to that one.
It's perfect. Guy in Colorado, lucky to be alive.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
As co workers left it behind on a fourteen thousand
foot mountain they climbed as part of a team building exercise.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Where's Jim. He's lost.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
He was lost in high wind and freezing rain for
about twenty four hours. I'm not law I know I
got to be out of here in about three seconds.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
That's it for today. We'll be back tomorrow. Thanks for listening,
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