Brain Aging

Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Fadi Musfee about brain aging.  

Episode Transcript

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All right, Wednesday edition of the program starts right now.
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take that off my screen so it's not a distraction.
I will remove that from my laptop screen, and I
will lower my emails and take myself to the top
of the page as fast as I can. That's possible. Man,

(01:15):
oh man, oh man, the issues we face in here.
All right, thanks for listening. I really do appreciate it. Boy,
we woke up to a whole lot nicer morning this
morning then yesterday. Right Front's past now left in its
wake close to a week upcoming of really really nice
crisp weather. I like that. I like that adjective for weather.

(01:38):
If it's crisp outside, it makes you happy to be alive.
I think hopefully this is the beginning of a long
string of drier, cooler air. Weather like this is why
people move to Phoenix, at least in the winter and spring.
Summer kind of sucks when it's one hundred and ten
out there, but at least they don't suffer our humidity.

(01:58):
I'd almost take a dry one ten over a ninety
percent humidity ninety degree day. And anybody who's lived here
for more than one summer knows exactly what I'm talking about.
You just can't walk outside without busting into a sweat.
LA's weather is sort of like this, But well, Los

(02:20):
Angeles is in California, and I honestly, if you're from
there and you loved it and you hated to leave,
or if you're from there and you're glad you got out, whatever,
I wouldn't live there on a bet. I'm not picking
on you. I'm just picking on the state. I've been
there several times, actually, all before it swung so far left,

(02:41):
and it was nice. I enjoyed the experience. I have
eaten scallops overlooking the Pacific Ocean in San Francisco, and
I once got a helicopter tour of Los Angeles. I've
been to Disneyland, not Disney World. I've been to Disneyland.
Beautiful state. It was anyway until it lost its political mind.

(03:03):
But enough of that. Uh, maybe some of them can
overlook Newsom and Pelosi in that bunch because they do
have that nice weather. They deserve some sort of reward,
I suppose. So back on track to his and Low's
and haikup from Texas Indoor Air Quality Specialists, where you
can just I'll pound two fifty, say healthy air, and

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when somebody answers the phone, it'll start ringing eventually. And
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and they'll tell you all about cleaning your duct work
so you can breathe clean air in your house for
years to come. You're ready, will oh, okay, kiss the heat, goodbye,

(03:44):
and good riddance until spring. We earned this weather. I
don't know, what do you mean? You don't know? I
feel like you're making a big jump.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Now.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Is that a jump. I would hope that it stays
this temperature, but I don't think it's going to What
do you think it's gonna be tomorrow? I mean, I
think maybe we will have a cold front this week,
but I see it been outside lately. I was outside
this morning. We've had the cold front. It will just
continue to get cooler for the next two or three days.

(04:21):
And then what it's gonna build back up into the eighties,
Probably not in the eighties now, maybe done with the eighties.
I mean, it's wishful things we'll see. I think the
eighties are coming back. What about ninety? When will we
see that again? Just nine zero? Probably January, No, not

(04:42):
ninety in January. I'm not falling for that. Although it's
probably happened. In my lifetime, we've had I've I have
experienced so many temperature extremes in this state, major freezes,
major hot spells. It was back in the seventies at
some point, one of the first years, the seventies, eighties. Now,
it might have been a little bit later than that.

(05:03):
Maybe in the eighties somewhere we had a heat spell
come through here and it ended up killing quite a
few people. It was just so hot, and they couldn't
find relief. We didn't have cooling stations, we didn't have
places in a lot of cases, we didn't have places
where anybody could just just magically roll over, grab an

(05:23):
uber and go to the cold place. And people died
because of that. People died from that same with these
major freezes, we've had December of eighty three, I think
it was December of eighty three. I think there were
two in eighty three and one eighty nine, or vice versa.
I oneted the bookends of the year that one of

(05:43):
those two years, and then the more recent freeze is
that Yury or whatever it was called. When they started
naming cold weather instead of just leaving it alone and
letting it be a major freeze and period, end of story,
Now they got to give it a name and come
up with a history for it. Those freezes killed millions
upon millions of fish up and down our Texas coast,

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and there were freezes long before those too. If you
look historically back, you'll find major freezes that in some
cases actually froze over parts of the surface of Galveston
Bay salt water frozen. It got so cold and stayed
so cold for so long just and anyway, so before

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I yeah, before we get to the break here, I
want to go ahead and finish this off. The markets
where Wall Street was walking on eggshells this morning and
really wondering where President Biden's green light for the use
of US guided missiles on targets inside Russia, where that's
gonna go. We still don't really know. The whole world's
holding its breath, honestly, and the the Russians, the North Koreans,

(06:54):
the half the Middle East all saber rattling talking about
nuclear response. And I don't know why this administration wanted
to do that on its way out, but they did.
And I'm a little bit concerned. I'm more than a

(07:14):
little bit concerned. Markets all four indicated, were down early,
but three of the four made it back into the
green just a few minutes ago. Oil was flat unless
you count a one cent change from this morning, and
gold was up a nice chunk seventeen dollars back up
to twenty six point thirty one. The market people, the

(07:35):
pundits up there on Wall Street, caution that the rest
of twenty four is likely to be pretty volatile. We've
got a president who struggles with cognition, a vice president
who likely is at least somewhat bitter over losing and
being asked to explain how she spent a billion and
a half dollars in about ninety days. And our incoming

(07:56):
president can't really act in an official capacity, although you
can rest assured that he's been on the phone with
people all around the world, but he can't do anything
officially until late January. I'm hoping he's telling all these
other world leaders to just cool their jets and let
the transition happen, that we'll make all this work. We

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Speaker 1 (09:46):
Aged to Perfection. This is fifty plus with Dougpike.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Hi, welcome back to fifty plus. Thanks for sharing your
lunch hour with us, even and if you don't share
your lunch that's okay. We are. We're going to talk
in this segment about cognitive changes generally I guess, and
about some specific populations in which those changes might occur

(10:16):
differently to make sense of something I don't really understand,
and I actually didn't know it was a thing until
this morning, Well yesterday, I will bring in doctor Foddie Musky,
Assistant professor in the Department of Epidemiology at ut Health
Houston and Brownsville, where he's actually researching exactly that. Welcome

(10:37):
to fifty plus.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Doc, Thank you so much. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Oh it's my pleasure. I saw the term brain aging
in the notes I got for this interview. How does
your world define brain aging?

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well, thanks really for asking. This is a great question
and surprisingly it's not an easy to answer. Okay, First
of all, aging is a process, so imagining its continuous
process takes too long time to develop. And it's affecting
multiple brain you know, it's not affecting only the brain,

(11:11):
is affecting the kidneys, affecting other organs of the body.
But today we're talking about brain, and which is this
is my areas of expertise. It's actually the process of
how the brain changes over the years, and actually started
very early in the process, so it's starting in the
early thirties and start to accumulate all these kind of

(11:32):
lesions that say or you know, changes in the brain
and goes effect. Probably all will probably manifest itself at
age sixty and more and make things probably a little
bit easier. It is on two levels. So one level
is really the cellular level, which is like the small
level where the molecules and the genes interact. This is

(11:55):
one level of the brain agent and you can see
changes there. It changes and the cells or the cells
shrink and die and changes in their shapes. And also
it can benefest on the larger level, which is you know,
when you look at the brain and an image israelly,
the brain is changing in the shape like less dance.

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There's deck two part of the brain called white and
gray matters. There are some changes there. There are some
changes in the evasculature. There are changes and they called
ventricles or the volume actually of the brain and the
spaces within the brain. So all these changes collectively called
brain aging. And these again these progress within the years

(12:39):
as we age. Luckily, actually there's there's things to do
to not to prevent problem, but to slow the progress
of these changes, and things like you know, eating healthy diet, exercising,
being socially active, equating smoking, limiting alcohol. It's all these

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kind of the things we can do actually ultimately really
to know, that's a brain aging process, which all we
need to you know, hold as much as you can
as you get older.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
You know, you the things you mentioned as being beneficial
to our cognitive health and our brain health are the
same things that go along with everything. This is interesting.
You're not telling us anything we don't already know. What
percentage of people do you think really pay attention to
how much benefit there is to quitting smoking, to not
drinking too much, to doing and just to exercise and

(13:35):
eat a healthy diet.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Yeah, yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah, this is actually it's
surprising the these simple things can prevent the you know,
deterioration of brain aging into more serious things that you know,
getting cognition. So cognition means memory. So as we age,
you know, we lose the ability to remember things, we

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lose ability to respond to things as fast as we
used to do in our twenties or thirties. So, yes,
so these things are very important. And the reason is
those basic stuff are important because our brain really nourished
by the blood vessels that goes into them and having
all these healthy habits actually prevent the vessel that you know,

(14:24):
nourish the brain from deteriorating and preventing this deterioration, this
cycle of deterioration will ultimately save your brain cells from
dyeing and eventually helping you you know, survive healthier and
a better cognitive functioning and a better you know, aging
process than those who probably don't go with the you know,

(14:48):
with a good or general knowledge about having these healthy habits.
Also to add one thing, actually, one of the main
initiative of the American Our Association is Live Simple seven
and this is very important to the to the heart
as well as the brain because it's all connected through
this blood vessel circle that's you know, nourish not only

(15:11):
the other part of the body, but also the brain.
And it's very important to keep the vessel healthy as
well as you know, the brain healthy. I will add
one more point, So mynd study actually is really looking
into those vessel vascar changes. It is called vascar which
are the vessel changes in the brain and how they
affect the brain aging process. And that's why it really

(15:35):
probably you see this thing between having all these healthy
habits and how this is important really to keep our
brain healthy.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Doc and Faddie must be on fifty plus.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Here.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I saw in my notes also that you are focused
not exclusively but specifically for a lot of your research
on Hispanics and Latinos. Why is that?

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, that's I'll circle back to the main question. So,
first of all, I serve an area which is the
real Grand Valley where the population actually ninety percent Hispanic.
And if you look at the population actually the prevalence
meaning the how frequent diseases of diabetes in hypertension, which
are like very well known factors for accelerated brain aging,

(16:17):
meaning that brain aging happens in an earlier stage. It's
too there are too many people with diabetes hypertension and
those people are not treated and that's a major contributor
to really to the lower cognitive function of this population.
So we have that few primary data, which means they

(16:37):
can unpublished results. We looked at the cognitive function of
those of a cohort we follow for years, and interestingly enough,
it's really if you look at people between thirty to
fifty years of age, you'll look at a really decline,
significant decline compared to their peers of different you know,

(16:58):
ethnicities or of lation. Yeah, and if you look at
the you know, for example, we look at diabetes, and
diabetes was increasing the risk for you know, cognitive impairment
by seven times. Actually, oh, my gosh, and this is yeah,
and this is true for you know that if it's
you asked the people if you have diabetes, yes and no,

(17:19):
or you look at their blood and looking at the
genes and saying that this is a higher gene for
you know, diabetes and risk you know, and cognitive impairment,
and the question was both yes. So diabetes and the
genus diabetes in this poppety really is a major drive
for this cognitive impairment. And actually one of the reasons
we're you know, doing these studies looking at these risk

(17:42):
factors and their effects and the blood vessels that nourish
the brain and all how this world will work out
and the brain aging process.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Holy Michael, that's you. You've just opened this giant can
of worm in thirty seconds or less. Have you have
you found out anything in this study that really surprised you? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:02):
So, actually this is a great question. And first of all,
I want to thank you know, my sponsor's uty health
and brand and aging on their generality, you know, generous
support and my mentors their estabus and doctor Bland Renninger.
So I'll tell you one thing. This is a recently
funded study, so we are in a position that we're

(18:25):
the first to look into these changes on a longitude
andal study, meaning on a multiple times point, and we
will identify things, hopefully very soon so we can share
with the public. So the short answer, we're still working
on this hopefully will get some interesting results to the public,
which will hopefully, well everybody will help, not it's only Hispanic.

(18:46):
Other population will get really help from this. You know,
this outcome of this study.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Doctor Fadie, mostly on fifty plus. You keep working and
when you're ready, let me know and we'll get you
back on here and share what you found for Thank
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Speaker 1 (21:00):
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is fifty plus with Doug Pike.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I welcome back to fifty plus. Will Melbourne got the
word'll in four today. I just got a chance to
go through two swings at the plate, and so far
I have zero letters that are in the word, which
is good because I've narrowed the alphabet, the usable alphabet,

(21:44):
down to sixteen letters, and I know that q's not
going to be one of them because there's no U
in the words. That's what it says here. Okay, okay,
might be forgetting some Oh probably, am I'll figure it out.
I'll figure it out before I'm done. All right, welcome

(22:06):
back speaking. I was talking a little bit about well,
I can't help it. I'm gonna say a little something
else about the Harris campaign. More and more line items
being revealed from that spending spree. One of my favorites
from her fifteen week one point five billion dollars or
so ride. Just in October, her campaign spent one hundred

(22:28):
and eleven million dollars in online ads asking for donations.
That seems I don't know, that seems excessive, and I
don't know that they got much of an ROI on that,
to be perfectly honest. Another one at two point six
million dollars two point six million dollars in private flights

(22:55):
just in October two point six million dollars in October
obert almost one hundred thousand dollars a day seemed like
to me? Is that about right, Will? Or ten thousand,
ten thousand times thirty, it's only three hundred thousand. No,
that wouldn't work. Yeah, almost one hundred thousand dollars a
day in private air fair October, but pretty busy month

(23:20):
for them. I guess all out effort to tell Americans
that she understood their day to day struggles, because, after all,
she grew up in a middle class neighborhood. Campaign debt
is estimated to be as high as twenty million dollars.
That's a pretty deep hole for Democrats to fill in
two years, which is their next chance. Will Do you
remember Vern Troyer's role in the Austin Powers films? Yes,

(23:42):
he was MANI me, he was mini me to Mike Myers,
Doctor Evil and also what was his name, Austin Powers? Yes, yes,
said that, I know, Will I was. I was already
moving ahead to something else, so it's pretty cool. Apparently
there is something similar going on in the Earth's orbit,

(24:02):
or the orbit of the Earth. The Spanish astronomists have
discovered this tiny little chunk of an asteroid, Okay, and
it was really nothing less than a miracle that they
actually did find it without going into the astronomy weeds.
And a lot of these things that I'm going to
tell you this week are just going to be conversation starters,

(24:22):
so that over the holidays nobody has to talk about politics.
This would be a good example of that. Our better
known moon, the one that was so bright for the
last few days, is about two thousand, one hundred and
fifty nine miles wide asteroid twenty twenty four pt five,

(24:44):
which is just kind of a it's a it's a
temporary moon of the Earth. Guess how wide it is?
Will it's smaller than our real moon. I don't know.
I just take a stab.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I don't know. We don't have much times how it does?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
What is it? Thirty four feet just four feet short
of a first down or four feet longer than a
first down? Thirty four feet and these astronomers found this thing.
There is gravity. I just grabbed this little galactic pebble
back on September twenty ninth. This is, by the way,

(25:24):
it's it's going to be short lived, as our second moon,
and so it shows up on the telescope on September
twenty ninth, and the Earth is going to spit it
out at eleven thirty four am on November twenty fifth,
one week from yesterday, Forever to be forgotten, I guess,

(25:46):
except as a well, it's like a two sentence footnote
and some yet to be written textbook that will only
be available as holographic pages. It's nothing. It's a blip,
but it's something interesting to talk about if you missed it,
by the way. It's this large sheet of metal fell
from the roof of at and T Stadium last night

(26:07):
in Dallas, just ahead of the Texans Cowboys game, and
then another piece broke loose up there, and they had
the roof open and it couldn't be secured quickly enough,
so official decided to close the roof and go on
about it and and deal they were gonna deal with
that today. Those weren't sheets of metal, will you know
what they were? What they were the stadium's tears falling

(26:32):
because the Cowboys are struggling so badly this season. Why.
I hope no fans. Yeah, I hope I probably made
some Cowboys fans, I know, at least one guy who
might be listing who's a big Cowboys fan. And I'm
just choking. Don't don't get mad at me. But that
was just too easy. That was low hanging fruit. Feel
free to use that. We gotta take a little break.

(26:52):
I told you we'd be okay on time. Will Alpine, Texas,
way way out in West Texas. Okay, it's gonna be
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and you might want to split it up with a
stop maybe in Fredericksburg or San Antonio, just to enjoy
some of that, which is also a nice, beautiful parts
of Texas. But Alpine is truly unique out in that

(27:13):
area in that it offers just the best of so
many different things. And the city itself is hosting an
early Christmas in Alpine on the December the fifth through
the seventh. On that Thursday, you are welcome to enjoy
a stroll through the shops on Murphy Street and Holland Avenue.
They're going to have each of the stores competes to

(27:35):
have the best wastle. And if you don't know what
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the people you really care about. On Friday there's just
a wonderful magical Christmas concert going along with a lot
of other activities. And then Saturday they would welcome you

(27:59):
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Speaker 1 (28:45):
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Speaker 2 (28:52):
Oh, I think that sounds like a good plant.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Fifty plus continues. Here's more with Doug.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Welcome back to fifty plus. Thanks for listening. Certainly do
appreciate it if you miss. No, no, I'm not gonna
talk about that. Let's let's do some fun stuff. Well,
first of all, do you know what day this is?
It is the nineteenth? No, what day in the world.
Somebody paid for this. I'm sure some plumbers union. That's
a hint. Oh, okay, it's World drainage Day. No one,

(29:34):
World Leaky faucet Day. No, it's World Happy will Happy
World toilet Day, Happy World toilet Day. What'd you say
to me? Really? The little head I put on this
one is this seat's taken? Look at this, It says
on our clock over here, World toilet Day. Yeah, I

(29:56):
told you slash International Men'sday. That well, International Men's Day. Really,
that's kind of vague and obscured, weird. Toilet's a very
specific thing. Toilet and men get this and help me
understand this. Well a poll and tell me truthfully if
you've ever done this, It says A poll found thirty

(30:17):
eight percent of us sometimes go to the bathroom when
we're out in public just to get some alone time.
Would you really go to a public bathroom and just
hang out to be alone? No, I think they may
be in there for different reasons. I don't know. I'm
sure not going in there and just hanging out. I

(30:38):
don't care who I'm with. Their company out of a
bathroom is way better than just hanging out in a
public restroom that's creepies a lot. This I consider a
public service announcement. Here a study found that adding maple
syrup to your coffee instead of sugar or other I'm

(30:59):
bad about artificial sweeteners, but the maple sure syrup thing,
I think I'm gonna try because what it does. First
of all, your blood sugar doesn't spike as much, and
your coffee taste delicious, Your blood pressure falls, and a
lot of the people who have switched over this is
the reason I'm gonna do it. They've switched over to

(31:20):
maple syrup because they lose belly fat and it helps
with digestion, which can't hurt most of us our age.
That's pretty good stuff, will, wouldn't you say? Sounds like
a study done by the big maple syrup The Canadian study. Yeah,
probably maybe, so, Uh, what do you want? Well, dumb criminals?

(31:42):
Are you looking at Instagram? Counselor or Deck the Holes?
Deck the Halls with World Toilet Day. I wasn't that
all that good? Well you never did give me a
score on my like coo either? Oh yeah, like we're
old toilet Day. It's in the topic now that we

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mentioned it.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Huh, it's I'll give that one on the door. I
don't even remember what it was, so we're gonna we're
gonna say it's non applicable, all right, Deck the halls?
Have you already got your Christmas decorations up?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Will christ No? A psychologist says it might be a
sign if you do. If you already have your Christmas
lights up, and a bunch of people in my neighborhood
do this, this psychologist says, that might be a sign
you're a self self absorbed narcissist. Or maybe it's just

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a sign that the psychologist is a scrooge. Oh, that's
equally possible. I think maybe now it is before it's
before Thanksgiving. For heaven's sakes, I think that that used
to be the the time after Thanksgiving Friday, after Thanksgiving,
everybody's still off work and outcome the Christmas decorations. But

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middle of November, early November now probably not time yet?
Probably not time? Thumbs up or thumbs down? Will should
your next vacation be what's being called a skillcation, in
that you're gonna go somewhere intentionally on vacation that involves

(33:23):
learning a new skill. Give me some examples. What are
people doing. I can tell you a skill that I
haven't been able to enjoy in a long time that
i'd like to perfect on vacation, and that is sitting
in a lounge chair on a beach, drinking something with
an umbrella in it. Maybe that just sounds like a

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regular vacation, I know, it's why would you? I guess
it'd be nice to come back and know something you
didn't know when you left. But I don't know that
I would plan my vacation now if I got to
let's say, if I got to Hawaii, well, i'd go
to the Caribbean before where I go back to Hawaii.
I do love the Caribbean, I really do. So let's
say I go down there and I have an opportunity

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to to do some paddle boarding. If I'd never done
it before, and and I could learn that skill. Even
if I don't own a paddle board back here, I
could still say, yeah, I know how to paddleboard. Or
I could take a vacation to a ski resort and
maybe try to hone my snowboarding game a little bit
more tightly, maybe do some half piping. I think I

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should try that at my age. Well, I would like
to see it if you want a video. I do
you think I could get all the way down and
then all the way back up and catch air on
the other side. I think you could get down for
sure to the just to the bottom of the pipe,
just just fall over take I think I might surprise you. Oh.
I was talking to my wife yesterday actually about maybe

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going back up to Park City this winter sometime. And
if I do, I will I will put a I
will put my phone on my chest. I actually saw
a device like a chest protector, almost thing that snowboarders
or skiers can wear to where you can put your
phone right in the front of it and in video
it while you're going down the hill. I used to
do that by carrying the camera just in my hand,

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in my gloved hand. I would just start videoing and
then take off down the mountain. Really hard to tell
me from what's that guy? Oh god, what's that Sean?
What's Sean White? Yeah? Me and Sean we look about
the same going down on the snowboard, and that was
standing up most of the time. I just say, start
on the bunny slopes, Doug. Huh, I'm way past bunny slope, dude.

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I really am okay, I am all right. I remember
the first time my somewhit skin. I had video of it.
He was maybe I don't know, six, seven, eight years old,
and he's crouched down, almost like a catcher in baseball,
and his two little skis early about three and a
half feet long, are are touching the tips in front
of him, and he goes about eight feet and then

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his body just leans to the right and he just
kind of takes a hard write and crashes into the
little orange fence twenty feet from me, and he just
a boy. He came up with this giant smile on
his face, and I knew he was hooked. It was
really pretty fun. Minute and a half will is that
all I have? Ooh less a minute fifteen? Oh? Now? Yeah?
Not when I said it though, sin city, will or

(36:17):
fake news Sin's city? Wallet hub Hub updated its list
of the most sinful cities in America, and as you might,
you might guess, will Las Vegas still number one? What
are two and three? Sins city? Sin cities? All right?

(36:38):
One of the Salem's where the witch trials happened in Massachusetts? Nope,
that's a state that's not a city. Will I'm talking
about Salem messages. No, out of Salem, Oregon, Salem, Massachusetts.
Neither one made the list. All right, he'll never get this.
And that's kind of a sideway. Miami. Nope, not a

(36:58):
sin city, not one of the top three anyway. What
about Akron, Ohio? Oh yeah, you bet, yeah, Springfield, Missouri? No,
will Toledo. We're almost out of time. I'm gonna go
ahead and tell you number now. Number three is Los Angeles.
You know what number two is? Even without casinos. Three

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is Los Angeles and two is Houston. I don't believe that.
I think that's fake news. All right, we're out of here.
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