February 22, 2025 • 56 mins
Horror fans come in all shapes and screams—there’s the trivia-obsessed purist who thinks anything post-1980 is trash, the franchise defender who swears Halloween: Resurrection “isn’t that bad,” and the A24 devotee who insists horror isn’t real unless it’s “elevated.” In this episode, we dive into the most iconic (and sometimes insufferable) horror movie fan tropes, from the gorehounds to the “I liked it before it was cool” crowd. Are we calling ourselves out? Probably.
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And welcome back to thirteen thirty one. I'm your host,
mister Ripper, and as always, I have my lovely coas
here with me, the one the Only Todd of Thunder Hello,
and the Mistress of the Monsters Lana.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hey, my little Monsters.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So we've recently kind of put our heads together and
thought of some interesting topics that we think would make
for great podcasts episodes, and we got on the subject
act of what was it? Horror movie tropes?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Right, That's how it started, was the classic horror movie trops.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And if you're watching us or following us on Instagram,
you know that I talked about this. I think December November.
December is when we played around with the idea. But
you know, we want to have more of a solid
idea set in place before you know, we try to
execute it.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
And something a little different.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, we wanted to do something a little different. We
all know the tropes, you know, the Vinyl girl, the
mass killer, don't have sex, yeah, don't have sex, don't
do drugs, don't say you'll be back. So we kind
of figured that, you know, that's been done. But one
thing I don't think me personally, I can't recall is
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talking about horror movie fan tropes. We're pointing the fingers
back at the fans.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So to speak.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
You know what I think is gonna be is if
we relate a little too hard to some of these
and call ourselves out.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
We're definitely gonna be calling ourselves out on this, but
it's gonna be all in good fun. And if you
hear a trope that maybe you can relate with, hopefully
it's not one.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Of the bad ones.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Honestly, Misscellana, go ahead and uh take it away.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
So the first one we're gonna talk about is the
gore hound. This fan is all about extreme horror, gory, kills,
shocking violence. They often prefer films that go for the
shock value rather than psychological horror.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I wouldn't say that I'm a gore hound me personally,
but I do know I can recall back in the day,
I know people from when I was younger and first
getting into horror movies, there was that one particular fan
that was all about you got to watch this movie
for this scene or that scene, and the movie really
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wasn't you know, more than just that scene Hereditary Tide.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
What the gore hound. Yeah, the ones that love the
gory stuff and only want the gory stuff. They don't
really care about the story or if it makes sense
or anything else.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I don't think I am.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I like a good story, but I also like good gore.
There's a lot of Italian horror films that I'm in
called jallo films, and a lot of those stories are
very incoherent, They're pretty Yeah, they don't like on the gore.
I pretty much don't recommend them to anybody, you know
what I mean, Like maybe you, but not like your
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mainstream fan where I know that they're not just going
to appreciate the gore. They want, you know, that scream
type of story or whatever. Yeah, I wouldn't say that
I'm a trope. I do like watching films that have
pretty good gore in it and maybe nothing else going
for it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
But maybe it's just me, Misscelanta. What do you have
next on our horror fan trope list?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Well, you know when we were talking about trying to
come up with all the different categories, right, there were
actually four that kind of all go hand in hand
with each other. So let's talk about them. So this
is a four in one. So the first one we
have the horror purist. The horror purist is someone that
loves the classics and looks down on anything that isn't
what they consider authentic horror, especially remakes or mainstream hits.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
A snob, yes, the snooty booty, so to speak. I
definitely do not fall into that category. I'm very open
minded when it comes to new and old stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yes, And speaking of new and old, the next one
we're trying to talk about is the constant comparer, which
is someone who's always comparing the new movies to the classics. I.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yes, I kind of fall into this category when it
comes to certain things, so to speak.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I think we saw a lot of that last year
because there were so many remakes. I saw that in
you a little bit, just comparing it to the original.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes, when it comes to a remake and the original,
you know, for us we sit here and do the podcast,
so I think it's fair that we compare it to
the original. Where I get annoyed is that when you
hear those people say hard eyes so to speak, the
most recent slasher will it's no God, damn, Michael Myers.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
I don't like that either. But I definitely compare I
mean you got to. I mean, it's a remake, right,
why wouldn't you compare it to the original, Right, you've
got to compare that.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That one is one where I believe you would get
a pass for, like when you compare the original to
the remake, because in our situation, we have to because
we got to let the people know. We got to
convey to them that is this as good? Is it
on par or is it better? Do we have a
Hills have Eyes situation where it's actually better than the original?
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Or do we have a crow situation to where oh
my god, it's alive.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Kill it.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
But where I think it gets taken too far is
the remake hater who automatically dismisses a remake because of
the fact that it's a remake before they even see it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I don't think you should dismiss the remake just because
it's a remake.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, you have a lot of people that are not
only just with the horror, but in everything. They go,
oh god, damn, Hollywood doesn't have any original ideas. They
got to remake something else, blah blah blah blah blah,
and they don't give it a chance. And look fifty
percent of them are going to be on par at
least really good and enjoyable. Some of them are going
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to be goddamn awful. But if you don't watch any
of them, you just group them all into one. I
think it's very unfair.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, you can't just sit there and rule it out
because it is a remake. Now, some of them, I'll admit,
you can give a pass too, because there's some movies
that are just perfect. Like when they remade Roadhouse, we
knew it was gonna be shit. You can't capture sure
that lightning in a bottle, so to speak. You're not
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going to be able to remake Terminator two. That's just
going to be impossible. You can't do that. Possibly, the
idea of I don't know what would be a movie
was it The Langlers that could be remade and it
could be better.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah, I've always said that was one that I would
personally pick because of the special effects being so outdated.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, we're talking Windows.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
And that's a film that could use an updated version
and today's special effects could make it so much better.
What studios normally do is they take films that are
already established, already proven to be hit makers. Classics draw
a lot of money, and they just remake them cash grabs.
In my opinion, remake a movie that can you can
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generally approve upon. I think that would kind of toned
down the people going, well, why are you remaking this?
Or why are you remaking that? I don't know, ah,
fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
We also have the last part of this kind of
multipiece is the nostalgic fan. They constantly talk about how
the old horror films were so much better and how
today's movies don't compare to the golden age of the genre.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Backing my day.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Well, this one is a subject to debate, because what
do you consider the golden age of the genre. Is
it the nineteen thirties Universal Monsters, is it the late
seventies into about eighty four of the slasher golden era?
I mean, what are you actually talking about here? So
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that is subjective, But I do put myself in this
category because I truly believe that movies from the seventies
and eighties are significantly better than anything that comes out today.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Hei ay ya yai, even like Alfalfa.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
What I'm saying to you, ya yaya yan, what I'm
saying to you is I'm not saying that there's no
goddamn movie that's good today.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I'm saying that you're not gonna get a constant run
of Oh my God. This was a monumental year of
hit after hit after hit, fun after fun after fun
after fun. You're not gonna get that. You're not gonna
get that eighties vibe. You're not gonna get the most
important era, which was the seventies. We didn't get that
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many horror movies in the seventies, but we got the
most important horror films in the seventies. Right now. In
the eighties you had room for shit that came out,
but it was drowned out because for every shit film,
you had four or five really good fun films. You
don't have that today. You do not have that.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Today.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
We are constantly are like, God, is February over yet,
because we know this is the month for shitty horror
films so to speak.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, your January February months are pretty much doomed off
the jump these days. It's notoriously well known.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Which makes hard Eyes that much more impressive.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I know, And when I think of the films that
come out today. I think in twenty years, am I
going to look fondly back on them as the Friday
the Thirteenths, the Halloweens, the Texas Chainsaw Masters.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Maybe some, but very little.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
That's a really good point.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
That is a good point. I think that, oh Man,
maybe like around twenty twelve, twenty thirteen to now is
kind of when things have kind of been going downhill,
maybe not downhill, but very stagnant, in my opinion, subpar very.
I would say between twenty twenty two to now has
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it's been pretty good, especially last year. Last year we
got some very credible bangers. Last year was probably one
of the better years that I can remember in a while.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
That's true, we did have a constant big list of
really good movies, but we also had a constant big
list of shit movies too.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
True.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
But at least the tra directory is going up and
not nose diving.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yeah, yeah, I can at least say that I didn't
have to put a shitty movie in the top ten
just to get a top ten.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
The next one I'm actually really excited to talk about
because we have one of these right here in this
very room with us, and this is the movie collector.
They have every edition of their favorite horror films, including
rare posters, limited edition DVDs, collectors items, steal books, all
of the things. Mister Ripper cough cough.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You can't just call me out on that.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I can too.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Todd is right there. No, you're way worse.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Let me take a second and look around the brand
Cole can't see it, however, how much of this room
is taken up by thunders memorabilia compared to Ripper's memorabilia.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Mine's like, I do so much love because I love
that you have all of this.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Well, just to get mine out of the way, because
mine's going to be short. I got a VHS, I
got a DVD, I got a Blu Ray. That's because
constant media keeps changing and improving. Right, So that's pretty
much where I draw the line. I love Halloween, but
I don't have every edition of it, and it doesn't
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bother me that I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I go for everything collector.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yes, I go for the multiple different cover arts and
still books, especially if you're fucking awesome, especially the last
Halloween trilogy. The still books were fucking amazing, Like the
single still books were on even Halloween. Enns had like
a fucking amazing Still book, and yeah, Still books have
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kind of been my thing for the past, like, I
don't know, a year and a half, two years pretty much.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
My question is, do you feel like you have more
Grimlins merch or Halloween merch?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I definitely have more Grimlins merch, which is, I know,
weird because I don't really boast about Grimlins that much
on here. I'm more of a Halloween fan. But it's
kind of hard to It's kind of hard to break
it down because I thoroughly enjoy and absolutely love Grimlins.
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Like it's it's up there in one of my favorite
horror movies of all time. It's not, you know, your
typical horror movie. It's just one of those that you know,
I was very drawn to as a kid, and Halloween
was always my favorite slasher. So as I've gotten older,
you know, I've got a lot of great Grimlin stuff,
and I noticed that I got to a point where
I was like, I don't have that much fucking Halloween stuff.
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So over the past couple of years, it's been Halloween
stuff that I've been kind of gearing myself towards mask posters,
replicanize figurines, you name it, I'm gonna buy it.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. I was just talking
about like physical media. But yeah, I'm kind of like
that too. Like if I see a Halloween shirt, I got,
like right now, I think I'm about sixteen or seventeen
deep in Halloween shirts.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
So I mean I'm definitely right there.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Yeah, that definitely like goes into what you're talking about
as far as like getting every piece of media or
promotional artwork whatever from from a franchise. I guess yeah,
I guess you could catch me in that too, which
I did buy it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I did buy that gizmo from Spirit of Halloween last year.
He's like right there with the ghost face mask on.
You can't see it, but I have a gizmo with
a ghost face mask on. Why because I don't know origin,
because I didn't know where to put the ghost face mask.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Boys, I think you're gonna have a lot of fun
with this next one.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Bring it on.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
The Horror is art philosopher.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
It sounds like a twenty four people aha exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
So this fan approaches horror from a deeper, more intellectual perspective.
They love dissecting themes symbolism, and the social commentary hidden
in horror films, often quoting directors or philosophers influenced the genre.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Wow. Actually, yeah, well that's what I hear.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
My big problem with these assholes is they often like
to dive deep into things that is not there. It's
cool if you want to point out this or that
that is obviously a point of the film, right Like,
oh yeah, now that you point out, I see it.
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But oftentimes I see a lot of these people digging
and digging and digging, and it's not there. And it's
almost like they're trying to convince themselves of all these
technical reasons. It's just not there.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I don't know why you just can't say, you know,
this movie might not have a lot of substance to it,
but I like it. Why not just say that, besides
having to sit here and you know, tell me you're
digging for goal, but you're you know, you're on a
paddle boat in the middle of Montana.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
That's what else pisses me off is that if we
sit here and we say we like a film like
Heart Eyes, and they look at us and they say, oh,
you like that mindless stupid shit and then they do
an a twenty four film which is more of an
artsy film, and they name all these deeper fucking social
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commentaries and all this, and we're like, yeah, for I
didn't see it. Second of all, I don't care about it,
and third of all, has nothing to do with horror
in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, you're sitting here telling me that I'm looking at
Mona Lisa and you are trying to convince me reason
why she didn't smile is because of the war going
on that no one really knew about, and the sky
was purple and demons. Yeah me personally, Okay, cool, that's great.
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I'm glad that you can find substance in the movie.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That you know.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I may or may not agree with their substance there,
but you know.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
But for me, I feel like you're just trying to
be better than people.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's not cool. You would bash me because I.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Love Grimlins and I'm not sitting here saying that I
don't know what's an artsy, artsy movie that's not hereditary.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Midsummer Midsummer.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm an idiot because Midsommer is not my top five,
which I love. I love Midsummer it's actually probably one
of my favorite A twenty four films, next to Heretic.
And you're sitting here like, well, that's an actual good movie,
and Gremlins just for five year old to me, why
can't you just shut the fuck up and just like
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horror movies.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Yeah, even those movies that have that socialist commentary, even
that has what you call substance. I guess that's the
word you're going to substitute for, like sophisticated. Yeah, even
if it does have that, does that necessarily mean that
everybody has to like it just because it's sophisticated, or
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just because it's smart, or just because it has a
mind fuck to it? Does that mean that I automatically
have to like it. I can still think it's dog shit.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Just because it's an original idea doesn't mean right and
it's a good.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Just because I haven't seen it before doesn't mean I
want to see it again, exactly. I never want to
see the TV glow again.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh, oh my god, I never want to watch it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I would rather so my eyeball shot than watch that movie.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
But we would all sit here agree and say that
the stuff that we've seen in that movie, we really
haven't seen in any other film, but we don't praise it.
We still think it sucks even though we've never seen
anything like that. That's what I'm saying. We don't have
to praise it just because we've never seen it before.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Right, just because it's.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
New and groundbreaking or some people call it groundbreaking, doesn't
mean it's good.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I think something that fits really well. Talking about horror,
assholes are the gatekeepers. The definition Lyric just says insists
there's only one right way to enjoy horror. Well, I
feel like gatekeepers often are almost trying to keep things
away from other people.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, pretty much like, okay, I'm trying to think of
a horror movie ginger snaps. Gatekeepers try to you know,
this is my and you can't have it. Oh you
don't know about it, well you suck, but you can't
learn about it because I want it for myself. They
want to keep what they have to try to make
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themselves superor than you. But then when you try to
learn about it, they're like, no, you can't have it.
You're stupid anyway, that's your gatekeeper and gatekeepers can you
know fucking suck a banana with a peel on it.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yeah, And you know, the way that I compare it
as well is like kind of like, you know, you
listen to Metallica before they hit it big, and you're like,
this is the greatest band, But then they come out
with the Black album, they sell by Jesus copies, and
then all of a sudden, Eh, they're not my band anymore.
They're not something that I know and I can keep
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in my back pocket.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
It's an open secret now to me.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
When I hear Gatekeeper, they're always trying to keep the
newest something that nobody's found yet to themselves, right, and
then criticize you because you don't know about it. Yeah, like, oh,
you didn't know about this underground Norwegian body horror fly movie,
and it's it's really crazy if you think about it
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there for a minute.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
You love this, you're not really wanting it to succeed
as fully as it could.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Right. That kind of falls right into something we we're
gonna talk about in a little bit, but I'm gonna
go ahead and bring it up now. And that's the
elitist Oh Good's down on mainstream horror fans.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I can't stand this is definitely elitist.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I think that this describes your A twenty four fans perfectly.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, they will not watch anything from any other studio. Oh,
Sony put it out. Uh, it's gonna be a business tomorrow. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Twentieth century Fox boo, twentieth century No.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah, I mean we've kind of talked about this, but
elitist is a good word for it. I mean it's
my shit is better than your shit because you don't
understand my shit.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Right of cost. You like that in nineteen seventy nine
Halloween movie.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
And don't get us wrong, if it's a legit good
movie and you like it, that's fine. But you don't
have to shit on everything else that other people, like
if somebody wants to watch fucking shark Nato whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I've never understood why people sit there and gatekeep and
be these like dick hitd elitist. Why can't you just
take somebody under your wing, like, oh, you've never seen
phanfasm here, let's watch this together. I get enjoyment off
of people that haven't seen horror movies, like I get
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to watch them experience it like I did when I
watched it for the first time, and I think it's
so fucking.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Cool and You've done that a lot with me.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Y'all will be talking about a movie and I'm like,
I haven't seen that yet, and I'm almost embarrassed to
say that, but you always hit me by the hand
and you're like, oh, bet, let's go watch it right now.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Fuck yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Like to me, if you've never seen this movie, it's
a win win situation. I get to watch a movie
that I like, and I get to watch you experience.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Hopefully a movie that you like.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Right And on the opposite end of that, you know,
when I was growing up watching horror films and I
would get like magazines or when the rise of the
Internet happened, I'm that old and you hear people saying, well,
you know this movie that movie, and You're like, damn,
I thought I was pretty good into the genre. I
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almost feel embarrassed that I haven't seen that yet, you know.
And then I'll watch it and I'm like, oh, that's cool,
so learning and wanting to watch You can't watch it
if you don't know it, know anything about it, you
know what I'm saying. So the fact that you have
people that can recommend it to you, I think that's
a good thing.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You know what I mean the.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Thing that I would like to say about gatekeepers and elitists.
If there's somebody out there or maybe you know somebody
this like this, and maybe they give you a hard time,
I would like for you to tell them that they
wasn't born with the knowledge that they have. At one
point they were just like you. They didn't know Adam
from Eve. They had to sit there and watch Halloween
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because they haven't seen it. They haven't seen Demons, they
haven't seen Demon Night. They haven't seen Taels from the Crypt,
they haven't seen X, Y and Z. You just don't
acquire it's it's not like it's the matrix. You sit
in a chair, you put a chip in, and you.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Know everything exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
You have to fucking you have to crawl before you
can learn how to walk.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Don't forget where you came from.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, and these dickheads forget where they came from.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
One of our buddies, whose birthday was a couple of
days ago, he had never seen The Shining Know what
he did? He came to my house and he watched
it with me because he knew it was my favorite movie. Now,
did I turn did I turn my no up and
say what you've never fucking seen that. You're three years
older than me and you've never seen The Shining.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Did I do that?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
No? He said, Hey, maybe one day when I'm off
and you're off, I can come over. We can watch it,
you know. I said, fuck? Yeah, And you know what happened.
He came over and he washed it.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
He loved it then washing it in the theater. Yeah, And.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Then we turned around and our local theater was playing
the Flashback Cinema and The Shining was playing, and he
liked it so much that he went and saw it again.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So he's seen it twice.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Absolutely, And that's how it should be.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's how it should be. Yeah, I think you should
take pride in showing people. Well, if you haven't seen
it now, you'll never see it.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
All right, let's move right along, boys, to the spoiler
who will reveal the plot twists before they happen, or
the endings ruiner who ruins the endings.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Okay, there's a difference in these two my personal opinion.
So the person that you have what the ending spoiler
and what's the other person?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yes, we have the endings ruiner and the spoiler who
reveals like plot twists and things like that before.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Okay, I'm guilty of the plot twist. I am that guy,
but to my credibility or my character, however you want
to put it. I don't try to figure these things out.
For some reason, they just click.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I don't know how it works. I'm not sitting here
like you know the math equation with the fat guy
from the hangover where he's counting the cards and shit.
It's not like that with me. It's literally I'm just
sitting here and I'm like, that's the killer, like.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Five seconds into it. Yeah, I don't try. I don't try.
I say it though.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
You kind of get a little satisfaction when you get proven, right,
come on.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
A little bit, a little bit, a little bit. I
told you, I told you, I told you, I told
you so. But no, but here's here's that. Here's my
thing though.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
If I don't say it and make somebody known that
I said it, then if it happens and I say
I saw that five seconds into it, they're gonna be like, bitch, please.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Ain't nobody notice that.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So it's a lose lose situation in that I just
got to think to yourself, what would you rather just
be the person to say I told you so, or
you know, you're gonna sound like an asshole either way
in my situation, you are, but because we'll be talking
like we're normally talking like yeah, I saw five minutes
into it, or I, you know, lean over to Atlanta
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and be like, hey, the such and such I.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Of this second one.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
When when you I kind of do the second one
a little bit, I'm like you, I don't want to
sound like an asshole and say I saw it coming,
so I'll like try to substitute some where. Its like
I had a feeling that's the way they was going.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
But see then to me, I'm like, i'd be lying
because I knew it. But I do try to not
like spoil the ending.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I try.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
You don't want if Leanna comes out of a movie
and she's like, I fucking love that. I thought it
was so original, so I thought it was so great.
You don't want to be the person to go, uh, yeah,
I saw it five minutes in the movie. You don't
want to make her feel like she's fucking stupid.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, I don't. I don't want to make anybody feel stupid.
It's not that I'm trying to. I swear to God,
I'm not trying. I'm not trying to make nobody sound
stupid or like I'm superior. It's literally I could just
be watching the movie and then it just clicks.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
You have this unnatural gift for it.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
And we also have to point out we also have
to point out the fact that just because the movie
is easy to figure out doesn't mean that it doesn't
go on to still be a good film, right exactly,
an easy figured out film is still can be fun.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It still can.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah, but you know what, you're not, Ripper. You are
not a know it all.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Nobody likes it all.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Nobody likes to know it all. That someone who corrects
everybody else's horror knowledge.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well, actually I am. I do that.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Yeah, but you don't do it in a know it
all way, at least not with us.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, he does it to me.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
He's nicer to he's nicer to the mom.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Ripper will say something and I'll just go, actually, no,
I don't do that.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You say it wrong. Yeah, yeah, you're worse. You're like,
what is it nineteen eighty six?
Speaker 5 (29:44):
And I just go no, and I let it linger
for a minute, and then I go nineteen eighty two,
because you're a jackass.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I do that.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I do it purposely to like crack a smile. I
don't do it because it's like this fucking idiot doesn't
know any But some people are like that.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Though some people are are You're not like that with
anybody else.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Like there's times where I know you know the answer
and you do a slip up and I fuck with you. Yes,
but there's other people that are quick to correct you
and legitimately think you're a fucking idiot, you got it
wrong and you should know this.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I've actually seen you talk to people horror movie fans,
and you have a pretty good way of like correcting
them because, like, say the date's wrong, you'd be like, actually,
you know it was nineteen seventy nine, but that doesn't matter.
Then you'll roll with the point that they were making.
You do it in a very good way. Other than me,
you're a fucking jerk.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Sometimes well sometimes I catch what they're saying, you know,
especially if they're talking about like a Friday thirteenth or
Halloween or whatever, and they say, man, you know back
in nineteen eighty one, I was watching Halloween and I'm thinking, no,
you were watching Halloween too.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Good choice.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
You know, first one came out in seventy nine. You know,
I do shit like that, But probably was in nineteen
eighty one at home, fucking three years old watching fucking Halloween.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Two. Didn't know it was Halloween too, thought it was
probably fucking just Halloween.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, only nerds know the fucking years and dates and
actors and actresses. And I'm hosters and I'm a nerd.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
And I'm self proclaim and I'm kind of proud, but
not too proud tonight.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Sweet doll.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
The next one that we have is the over analyzer,
someone who picks apart every detail, which often makes them
miss out on the fun of the movie.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
I think we're all guilty of that, especially now. I
don't think that we do it constant, right. I think
that we do it for certain films. There are certain
films that me and you may consider very fun, and
the ripper cuts the fucking legs off of it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I'm pretty terrible about that, especially since we started this podcast,
because I'm looking at it not really one hundred percent
from a horror fan perspective, but as a critical perspective.
I'm not going to call myself a critic, but I'm
being critical of the horror movie.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Critics are overrated.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, take the two thumbs and stick them in your bomb.
As far as being critical, I want to make sure
that the people the cult are family friends. Whoever spends
their hard earned money on these things, are, you know,
getting their bang for their buck. Yeah, and that's why
I'm critical. I probably could ease up on the criticism
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a little bit, but.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
You have fun with that though, Hey, yeah I do.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
But people make a lot of fucking bonehead decisions in
horror movies that some are just fucking unnecessary. Like if
you're making a movie and you need to take a
left turn and it makes sense to take the left turn,
take the fucking left turn. Don't turn right just to
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fucking turn right. That doesn't make sense to go around
to get back to the left unless there's a reason
why you had to turn right. Well, that's what I'm saying.
You're turning right just to turn right, but then you
have to bring yourself all the way back to the left,
when you could have just went left and it would
have made a lot more sense, and it would have
been a more smoother ride.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
That's what you call it.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
A plot hole, fucking hit in every plot hole in
the way there.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You know what, I really hate.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Peanut butter and mayonnaise sandwiches.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
But what I hate more are one uppers people who
always have a scarier movie recommendation.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Thank God, I'm not like that, not here, honestly. Honestly,
if somebody tells me they've seen something and I've seen
it maybe twenty years ago, what do I always say?
I'm like, oh, yeah, oh that's cool, man, did you
like it? I don't go yeah, I've seen that twenty
years ago.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
You need to see this.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I saw it on opening night before even opened.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I can't get behind that whole concept of God.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I was there before there was there.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Yeah, And that kind of goes back a little bit
of discovering something before somebody else discovers it, you know.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'll watch that movie back in the day.
You're just now getting around to it.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Fuck off.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I saw the original, uncut Japanese Toronto Detroit version.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I don't know that this one is necessarily as negative
as some of the other ones have been, but we
do have the fans who are very much genre snobs,
so they only really appreciate certain types of subgenres.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
See, I don't think about that because I like so
I like horror.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Yeah, I'm an overall horror fan. Like we've sat right
here and told you our favorite genre of horror is slashers.
That doesn't mean that we dismiss everything else, because we don't.
Because listening to this podcast, you know we don't. And
you know that we tell you, like, oh God, here
comes another fucking Jesus Exorcist movie and we're dreading it.
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But if it's really good, we're gonna tell you it's
really good. We're not just gonna sit here and say, oh,
it was another one, you know what I mean. And
we don't really care if it's good or bad. We
just are sick of this fucking genre. No, we will
tell you if it's good or bad.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, Like the first omen, it was fucking amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
And I immediately wanted to rewatch it.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yes, Well, to me, it's like seeing you're a music fan,
but you only listen to specifically pop music, right, that's it.
You don't listen to any other type of music. To me,
you're a pop fan, you're not really a music fan.
If you're a music fan, you listen to rap, country, bluegrass, metal, rock, electronic, eighties, nineties,
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two thousand's everything under the sun. And that's how I
feel with horror. I can't just sit there and be
a gore horror all day.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I gotta change it up some. I gotta have a slasher.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I gotta have a rom com slasher now that I
didn't know, you know, I need it in my life.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I need that now.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I need my heretics, I need my shinings. I gotta
break it up some because if everything is the same,
then nothing's different and I can't appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Yeah, And just like the mom said, I don't think
that this category is as offensive as most of the
other ones, because if somebody says, if I say, do
you like horror films and they say, well, you know,
I like vampire films, I can still be like, oh
that's cool, Like it's not gonna bother me that they
don't watch zombie.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Movies, because they're not being a dick.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
It's just they're not putting down anything else. They're right
telling you what they like exactly. Kind of similar to
the genre snob, though. It's something that we have called
the horror gait crasher, which is someone that only shows
up for the most popular horror movies.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I've never ever ran into somebody like that.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
You know who these people are to me?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
When we're in the theater and those young ass kids
come in there and they talk through the whole thing,
and you know that they don't give a shit about
the movie that they're watching. They're just there because it's
popular to be there.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Ooh, that's good. That's the nail on the head that
hit it. Yeah, they're there to watch Scream because it
scram That was the very first franchise.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I thought to myself, like, where these people could qualify
to be in like Scream. It's not that they're horror
movie fans, it's that Scream is probably one of the
most pops the horror genres still going strong.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Today, right into those fans. I hope that somebody sticks
their penis and your popcorn.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Yeah, if you go, if you go to a theater
and watch a movie and you giggle and it's not
a comedy, suck a dick, a buttery one, a buttery one.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Something that does suck is the people.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Who are freaking jump scare predictors. So they give you
the jump scare before it happens because they see it coming,
so they scare you before the jump scar happens.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
See. I fight the urge to do that with you.
I really do.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
You've only done it a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
I think, shut the fuck up and let her have
an authentic experience.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I do. I do, God damn it.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I've never done it in a theater though. Oh that's good,
that's good. Yeah, it's only at home. I wouldn't dare
do it in a theater because I don't want to
ruin anybody else's experience or possibly embarrass her because nobody
else jumped. But it's it's kind of fun timing it right.
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I'm not gonna lie. It is a little fun, but
I try very hard not to because I don't want
nobody's movie experience ruin. I know I would hate it
personally if I'm definitely trying to watch this movie or
I have been really looking forward to this movie and
then somebody's like, you know, fucking westmy.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
But you know what's funny about me is I can
see I can be like a jump scares coming and
a jump scare still gets me, but I love it,
so I'm okay with it.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
I think most of us can predict jump scar. We're
expecting it when it happens, and the timing of it
might be a little off or whatever, but we know
it's coming. It's like, oh, the camera cut here. What
And a lot of times newer film tries to get
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you with that because they know you expect it right here,
and they purposely wait maybe three seconds, and then they
do it. And now that's kind of getting.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
To a trope.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
It's very much a trope. But you know how y'all
feel about jump scares, like you can see it coming.
That's how it is when I'm watching a movie and
I figure out a.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Plot right like, you're not looking to figure it out.
It just kind of happens.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, you know how the scene kind of sets it up.
You're like, they're gonna do a jump scare. That's how
it is when I'm watching a movie for the first time.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Interesting, your your mind is very fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
That's the best way I can describe it to you
and the listeners out there is that you can see
the jump scar coming and then you're like no shit,
that was a jump scare coming. It's literally like that.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
But at least you're not like, oh, it's totally predictable.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
No, I would never do that because I in my mind,
I know it's weird. My mind works weird, So I
don't want to sit there and be like, well, that
was fucking obvious. Nagaa five stars. Yeah, like we touched
on earlier. Just because you can figure out doesn't mean
it's a bad film. But there are people out there
that give films negative reviews because they quote it's too predictable. Well,
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I figured out one of the killers and hard Eyes,
and I still give it a five.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yep, just saying okay.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Another fan trope that is not super fun is the
horror skeptic, someone who constantly questions the logic and horror movies.
To me, this is a person that just do you
not know how to have fun?
Speaker 1 (41:30):
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, no shit, unless it's actual people insert strangers. You
know that no supernatural elements is just humans hurting other
humans and nothing else. Anything else is gonna be You
have to suspend your disbelief because there's no such thing
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as a fucking zeno morph right right, there's no such
thing as I don't know fucking one hundred foot fucking
crocodile or a tornado of sharks. But there's also no
goddamn et there's no dinosaurs like in Jurassic Park. I'm sorry,
but you're not gonna see Vin Diesel actually fucking jump
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a ramp and fly a car to the fucking outer
skirts of space. That if you're okay with that, and
then you question the logic of I don't know Sam
from Trick or Treat Eat My toe jam ew.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
Yeah, And there's there's a significant difference between a film
creating a plot and going deeper, kind of like maybe
your terrifier that you started off and it doesn't really
lure to the fact that it might have supernatural stuff
in it. Then you watch the sequels and it definitely does. Yeah,
And it's a difference in that and a film just
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totally not making sense, throwing shit against the wall making
it stick, and then they're like.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Why'd you try to go like that? And it's like supernatural.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
But I would say that ninety percent of movies is
not real. Yeah, there's no buzz light Year, there's no
Woody Dirty dancing didn't happen. Forrest Gump is a fictional character,
Batman does not exist. Captain America is on the fucking
big screen. Yeah, I mean, I could go on for
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fucking days. Everything that you would consider an all time
great classic is ridiculous. I'm sorry, it's not believable at all. Yeah,
it just doesn't fucking happen like that.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
These films are about fun, They're about fantasies. That's probably
the reason why I love horror so much. I want
to go and I want to get lost in something
that I normally don't experience every day. I don't want
to go to the theaters and watch two people fall
in love and you know, do all that stuff and
stuff that I could possibly do in my real life
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or I see other people doing. If you like that stuff,
that's fine. I'm not shitting on it. I'm just saying
I'd rather have my mind blown. I'd rather have fucking
Bruce Willis jump out the fucking building and die heart.
I would rather have I want an experience.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, sorry, but you know, T two isn't really gonna
happen in real life.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
It's not really gonna happen. That's why we go to
the theaters and watch it.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Right, it's sorry escape from reality. Yeah, I mean, And
don't get me wrong, I'm not an asshole. I'm not
like these other elitists that you know, romance movie sucks
and whatever, hey is that's your thing, go for it,
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
We have talked about this a little bit already, and
it seems to be a reoccurring theme in several of
these points. But we have the franchise loyalist.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Franchise loyalist.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Oh god, if this is what I think it is,
then we're definitely guilty of this.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Only watches movies promise specific franchises.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Oh fuck, no, I think you're thinking of I find
excuse us is to make Halloween h two it work.
That's that's what I mean, right, Like, it's not it,
it's not good.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
I think there's a category on there that kind of
says stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Because my brain went to where I think your brain
was going, not franchise, but production companies like A twenty four.
That's where my brain went. Was like, if it's not
made by these people, it's trash. If it's not A
twenty four, it's trash. But they're talking about franchise like
Halloween Friday the thirteenth, like scream.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
Like, oh, I'll only go to the theater if it's
a proven franchise that I know, like a Halloween Friday
thirteenth saw. You know, if it's a brand new horror film,
I'm not going to take the chance on it.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Right, Okay, Yeah, we're not like that. Open your mind
and your asshole.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
If you're like that, you're missing out on a lot
of good stuff and you're going to be the one
five ten years later where everybody is talking about a
movie who is now turned into a franchise and you're
were like.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Well, fuck, I should have win saw it, right, I don't.
I don't feel like they would say that they missed out.
I feel like those people kind of just shit on them,
or maybe whether they're the elitist.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
Or maybe after three or four movies, they'll get into them.
Maybe after three or four movies and they're like, oh, well,
there's three or four movies I can watch back to back.
I can just watch them all on HBO Max and
get caught up.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah, fuck them.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Last, but not least, we have the two scary critic
and by that I mean people that complain that movies
are not scary enough.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Which we've talked about again bit recently.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
The worst for last these.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
Yeah, first of all, let's people, let's let's say this
being scary is objective. Okay, Yes, the Ripper has talked
numerous times about how Growing Up Child's played fucked him
up child. I myself am not afraid of dolls or
any thing like that. They don't creep me out. But
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who would I to say? What the fuck's wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Ripper? I shouldn't, so I don't.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
And I think that if you're if your thing is
maybe you're afraid of the water, so maybe Jaws really
fucks with you, or maybe you know, you had a
traubatic experience. So any movie that has like ghosts or
paranormal stuff in it, like.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
You really get creeped out.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
By, you know, or maybe you know some backwoods fucking
Hillbillies Wrong Turn or fucking Texas Trains Homemaster or something.
You know, it's all subjective. And to sit here and
tell somebody that a film is not scary based on
your merit without saying, in my opinion, first it's okay
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for you to say that, but.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Use in my opinion, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I'm a firm believer that the movies that we watch
at a young age are the ones that are going
to be the most scariest to us forever, the ones
that are gonna be the I guess, the most traumatic.
The best way to put it, yeah, like impactful, because
like you said, you know, it's child's play, Like Chucky
gives me the he be GBI's it's because you know
the my buddy doll situation that you know, I was
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literally watching the movie with and you know, I'm watching
this and it's like right there and Brad Dorf's voice
creeps me out to this day. And I had my
buddy too.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
It's just one of those things that creep me out.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
But see, I won't even watch Chucky because dolls freak
me out that bad.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
We'll see there you go, Well, Texas Chainsaw doesn't affect
me like it does you, Like you can't watch Texas
Chainsaw Master lights off.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
Exactly because I saw Texas Chainsaw Masker at the right age.
I don't know how old, well was maybe five six.
I saw it on an old VHS tape and it
fucked me up. I mean, I can sit down and
watch the movie, but I can't watch it with the
light off. I really can't because it freaks me out.
If Ever, there was a movie that really affected me
with atmosphere and mood and to get me that awful,
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eerie feeling every time I watch.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
It's that movie.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
And like you said, there might be some others that say, well,
why do people always put chainsaw on a pedestal? I
watched it and I didn't find it scary at all.
Cool it didn't affect you the way it affected me.
You know, there's some people that say, could have been
our grandpas or older people that said, you know, back
in my day, Dracula was pretty fucking scary. We watch it,
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we go, hmm, it's not pretty. It's not really scary
to us. But you know what I'm saying, So I
don't think we should put down anybody. And those people
that come out and say, well, this movie's not scary,
and oh you knew this movie won't gonna be scary.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
It was Pg. Thirteen.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
I'm sorry, but the conjuring was Pg. Thirteen and it
kind of creeped me out, especially the clapping scene.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Yeah, the clapping scene, so good one.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
I think that you know, we're always searching for that
child's play moment. We're always searching for that Texas chainsaw
mask or moment, and if it comes, great. We don't
not have a good time if we don't get that.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, what about you? Is
there a movie that was traumatic to you?
Speaker 3 (50:15):
If any Hush? Because and you know, you made a
really good point.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
A lot of it has to do with your own
lived experience and how it affects you and what your
own fears and things like that are. I have had
some really fucked up experiences when I was a kid
when it came to someone looking at me through the window.
And so when I saw Hush, it put me right
back in that headspace, even though I saw Hush as
a teenager, not as a child, but it put me
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right back in that headspace of that time when that
traumatic thing happened to me, and it fucked me up.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
And I liked I didn't sleep that night. Yeah that's fucking.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Scary, dude.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I want to circle back around to the this elitist
type person that says, you know, it's not scary, so
it's getting one star. I can't stand that shit, because
if I rated any other horror movie off of Scariness period,
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the only movies that I could say they give me
the Hebgb's or fucking Child's Play, So everything else would
be less than that movie. That's not fair because that
is not the greatest horror movie ever, right, not even?
I mean maybe Top ten Part two Part two is
the best, anyway, the overall I would have to put
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Child's Play above Texas Chainsaw Masker, above Halloween, above Friday
the thirteenth, above all these other great horror movies. And
it's just not the case because it wasn't as scary.
Speaker 5 (51:52):
And you know, when we look up all these lists
online of you know, top one hundred horror movies or whatever,
do you notice some of them rink them by popularity,
some of them rink them. Some of them title it
the one hundred scariest movies of all time? How can
you do your rank? Like what do you base your
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ranking off of? Like scariest? Like scar who you me?
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Like? What are you talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (52:21):
And I totally agree with you. The scariest movie might
not be the best movie. The best movie might not
even be all that scary. I don't particularly find my
favorite horror movie, The Shining to be scary. I find
it to be a little disturbing, But more importantly, I
find it to be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
That's why I like it.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
I love diving into his head of taking a guy
who's already on the edge and watching him go even further.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
That's fascinating.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
Yeah, It's like all he needs is a little push
and this fucking ghost, fucking hotel is gonna give it
to him.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
That's what I like by it.
Speaker 5 (53:01):
You know, going back to your you know, Texas Chainsaw Chucky,
you know, hush type of deal. I mean, it all
affected us. You can feel when somebody's looking at you,
you know, and sometimes when you're alone, you feel somebody's
looking at you and there's nobody looking.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
At you, and you know, you have these critics that
literally I see all the time, like this movie, this
movie isn't scary, this movie isn't scary. None of them
is going to be really scary after a certain point
in your life. And if you're literally basing movies off
of Scar Factor, I would.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Love to know your list.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I mean, honestly, like I love, love, love love the Exorcist. Yeah,
I'm not really creeped out by that movie. It doesn't
scare me.
Speaker 5 (53:48):
I'm not creeped out by it either, But I understand
why some people would be. I understand especially at the
time period it came out with, because religion was still
kind of like, you know, you don't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
It was taboo. It was taboo.
Speaker 5 (54:03):
So I can see like Catholics and Christians going, oh
my goodness, you know. So it's not like we don't
see the points. It's just it doesn't affect us that way,
and we don't expect others to be affected to what
we're affected.
Speaker 4 (54:17):
Pie.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Just watch what you like and just appreciate everything.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
Just don't talk shit about it unless it's hereditary.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
I think my ultimate takeaway, and I'll leave on this,
is that if you literally watched a great movie, I
don't know what movie you would consider great. I'll use
Halloween as a scenario for you. You watched a great
horror movie, you have nothing but good things to say
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about it for the most part. Overall, you say it's
not a good horror movie because it wasn't scary. You
just discredited everything else that movie, the score, the look,
the kills everything. Yeah, but it wasn't scary. So it's
not a good horror movie because it wasn't scary.
Speaker 5 (55:10):
And you also discredited all the people who said it
was scary when they saw it when it first came out. Yeah,
so because you're comparing it to when you saw it,
which might have been twenty years later.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, if you watch a movie in your thirties twenties,
it's not gonna hit you the same as when you
watch something when you were ten, and you're solely basing
every horror movie off of it's scary and that's your
only criteria. Go play in a sandbox full of turds.
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Speaker 1 (56:24):
Ripper, and I'm taught of thunderstand Tutulu.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
By my little monsters.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Stay spooky and don't be an elitist dick
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And welcome back to thirteen thirty one. I'm your host,
mister Ripper, and as always, I have my lovely coas
here with me, the one the Only Todd of Thunder Hello,
and the Mistress of the Monsters Lana.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hey, my little Monsters.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So we've recently kind of put our heads together and
thought of some interesting topics that we think would make
for great podcasts episodes, and we got on the subject
act of what was it? Horror movie tropes?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Right, That's how it started, was the classic horror movie trops.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And if you're watching us or following us on Instagram,
you know that I talked about this. I think December November.
December is when we played around with the idea. But
you know, we want to have more of a solid
idea set in place before you know, we try to
execute it.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
And something a little different.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, we wanted to do something a little different. We
all know the tropes, you know, the Vinyl girl, the
mass killer, don't have sex, yeah, don't have sex, don't
do drugs, don't say you'll be back. So we kind
of figured that, you know, that's been done. But one
thing I don't think me personally, I can't recall is
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talking about horror movie fan tropes. We're pointing the fingers
back at the fans.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So to speak.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
You know what I think is gonna be is if
we relate a little too hard to some of these
and call ourselves out.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
We're definitely gonna be calling ourselves out on this, but
it's gonna be all in good fun. And if you
hear a trope that maybe you can relate with, hopefully
it's not one.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Of the bad ones.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Honestly, Misscellana, go ahead and uh take it away.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
So the first one we're gonna talk about is the
gore hound. This fan is all about extreme horror, gory, kills,
shocking violence. They often prefer films that go for the
shock value rather than psychological horror.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I wouldn't say that I'm a gore hound me personally,
but I do know I can recall back in the day,
I know people from when I was younger and first
getting into horror movies, there was that one particular fan
that was all about you got to watch this movie
for this scene or that scene, and the movie really
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wasn't you know, more than just that scene Hereditary Tide.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
What the gore hound. Yeah, the ones that love the
gory stuff and only want the gory stuff. They don't
really care about the story or if it makes sense
or anything else.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I don't think I am.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I like a good story, but I also like good gore.
There's a lot of Italian horror films that I'm in
called jallo films, and a lot of those stories are
very incoherent, They're pretty Yeah, they don't like on the gore.
I pretty much don't recommend them to anybody, you know
what I mean, Like maybe you, but not like your
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mainstream fan where I know that they're not just going
to appreciate the gore. They want, you know, that scream
type of story or whatever. Yeah, I wouldn't say that
I'm a trope. I do like watching films that have
pretty good gore in it and maybe nothing else going
for it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
But maybe it's just me, Misscelanta. What do you have
next on our horror fan trope list?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Well, you know when we were talking about trying to
come up with all the different categories, right, there were
actually four that kind of all go hand in hand
with each other. So let's talk about them. So this
is a four in one. So the first one we
have the horror purist. The horror purist is someone that
loves the classics and looks down on anything that isn't
what they consider authentic horror, especially remakes or mainstream hits.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
A snob, yes, the snooty booty, so to speak. I
definitely do not fall into that category. I'm very open
minded when it comes to new and old stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yes, And speaking of new and old, the next one
we're trying to talk about is the constant comparer, which
is someone who's always comparing the new movies to the classics. I.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yes, I kind of fall into this category when it
comes to certain things, so to speak.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I think we saw a lot of that last year
because there were so many remakes. I saw that in
you a little bit, just comparing it to the original.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes, when it comes to a remake and the original,
you know, for us we sit here and do the podcast,
so I think it's fair that we compare it to
the original. Where I get annoyed is that when you
hear those people say hard eyes so to speak, the
most recent slasher will it's no God, damn, Michael Myers.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
I don't like that either. But I definitely compare I
mean you got to. I mean, it's a remake, right,
why wouldn't you compare it to the original, Right, you've
got to compare that.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That one is one where I believe you would get
a pass for, like when you compare the original to
the remake, because in our situation, we have to because
we got to let the people know. We got to
convey to them that is this as good? Is it
on par or is it better? Do we have a
Hills have Eyes situation where it's actually better than the original?
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Or do we have a crow situation to where oh
my god, it's alive.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Kill it.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
But where I think it gets taken too far is
the remake hater who automatically dismisses a remake because of
the fact that it's a remake before they even see it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I don't think you should dismiss the remake just because
it's a remake.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, you have a lot of people that are not
only just with the horror, but in everything. They go,
oh god, damn, Hollywood doesn't have any original ideas. They
got to remake something else, blah blah blah blah blah,
and they don't give it a chance. And look fifty
percent of them are going to be on par at
least really good and enjoyable. Some of them are going
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to be goddamn awful. But if you don't watch any
of them, you just group them all into one. I
think it's very unfair.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, you can't just sit there and rule it out
because it is a remake. Now, some of them, I'll admit,
you can give a pass too, because there's some movies
that are just perfect. Like when they remade Roadhouse, we
knew it was gonna be shit. You can't capture sure
that lightning in a bottle, so to speak. You're not
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going to be able to remake Terminator two. That's just
going to be impossible. You can't do that. Possibly, the
idea of I don't know what would be a movie
was it The Langlers that could be remade and it
could be better.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah, I've always said that was one that I would
personally pick because of the special effects being so outdated.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, we're talking Windows.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
And that's a film that could use an updated version
and today's special effects could make it so much better.
What studios normally do is they take films that are
already established, already proven to be hit makers. Classics draw
a lot of money, and they just remake them cash grabs.
In my opinion, remake a movie that can you can
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generally approve upon. I think that would kind of toned
down the people going, well, why are you remaking this?
Or why are you remaking that? I don't know, ah,
fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
We also have the last part of this kind of
multipiece is the nostalgic fan. They constantly talk about how
the old horror films were so much better and how
today's movies don't compare to the golden age of the genre.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Backing my day.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Well, this one is a subject to debate, because what
do you consider the golden age of the genre. Is
it the nineteen thirties Universal Monsters, is it the late
seventies into about eighty four of the slasher golden era?
I mean, what are you actually talking about here? So
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that is subjective, But I do put myself in this
category because I truly believe that movies from the seventies
and eighties are significantly better than anything that comes out today.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Hei ay ya yai, even like Alfalfa.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
What I'm saying to you, ya yaya yan, what I'm
saying to you is I'm not saying that there's no
goddamn movie that's good today.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I'm saying that you're not gonna get a constant run
of Oh my God. This was a monumental year of
hit after hit after hit, fun after fun after fun
after fun. You're not gonna get that. You're not gonna
get that eighties vibe. You're not gonna get the most
important era, which was the seventies. We didn't get that
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many horror movies in the seventies, but we got the
most important horror films in the seventies. Right now. In
the eighties you had room for shit that came out,
but it was drowned out because for every shit film,
you had four or five really good fun films. You
don't have that today. You do not have that.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Today.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
We are constantly are like, God, is February over yet,
because we know this is the month for shitty horror
films so to speak.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, your January February months are pretty much doomed off
the jump these days. It's notoriously well known.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Which makes hard Eyes that much more impressive.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I know, And when I think of the films that
come out today. I think in twenty years, am I
going to look fondly back on them as the Friday
the Thirteenths, the Halloweens, the Texas Chainsaw Masters.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Maybe some, but very little.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
That's a really good point.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
That is a good point. I think that, oh Man,
maybe like around twenty twelve, twenty thirteen to now is
kind of when things have kind of been going downhill,
maybe not downhill, but very stagnant, in my opinion, subpar very.
I would say between twenty twenty two to now has
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it's been pretty good, especially last year. Last year we
got some very credible bangers. Last year was probably one
of the better years that I can remember in a while.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
That's true, we did have a constant big list of
really good movies, but we also had a constant big
list of shit movies too.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
True.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
But at least the tra directory is going up and
not nose diving.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yeah, yeah, I can at least say that I didn't
have to put a shitty movie in the top ten
just to get a top ten.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
The next one I'm actually really excited to talk about
because we have one of these right here in this
very room with us, and this is the movie collector.
They have every edition of their favorite horror films, including
rare posters, limited edition DVDs, collectors items, steal books, all
of the things. Mister Ripper cough cough.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You can't just call me out on that.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I can too.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Todd is right there. No, you're way worse.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Let me take a second and look around the brand
Cole can't see it, however, how much of this room
is taken up by thunders memorabilia compared to Ripper's memorabilia.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Mine's like, I do so much love because I love
that you have all of this.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Well, just to get mine out of the way, because
mine's going to be short. I got a VHS, I
got a DVD, I got a Blu Ray. That's because
constant media keeps changing and improving. Right, So that's pretty
much where I draw the line. I love Halloween, but
I don't have every edition of it, and it doesn't
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bother me that I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I go for everything collector.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yes, I go for the multiple different cover arts and
still books, especially if you're fucking awesome, especially the last
Halloween trilogy. The still books were fucking amazing, Like the
single still books were on even Halloween. Enns had like
a fucking amazing Still book, and yeah, Still books have
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kind of been my thing for the past, like, I
don't know, a year and a half, two years pretty much.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
My question is, do you feel like you have more
Grimlins merch or Halloween merch?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I definitely have more Grimlins merch, which is, I know,
weird because I don't really boast about Grimlins that much
on here. I'm more of a Halloween fan. But it's
kind of hard to It's kind of hard to break
it down because I thoroughly enjoy and absolutely love Grimlins.
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Like it's it's up there in one of my favorite
horror movies of all time. It's not, you know, your
typical horror movie. It's just one of those that you know,
I was very drawn to as a kid, and Halloween
was always my favorite slasher. So as I've gotten older,
you know, I've got a lot of great Grimlin stuff,
and I noticed that I got to a point where
I was like, I don't have that much fucking Halloween stuff.
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So over the past couple of years, it's been Halloween
stuff that I've been kind of gearing myself towards mask posters,
replicanize figurines, you name it, I'm gonna buy it.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. I was just talking
about like physical media. But yeah, I'm kind of like
that too. Like if I see a Halloween shirt, I got,
like right now, I think I'm about sixteen or seventeen
deep in Halloween shirts.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
So I mean I'm definitely right there.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Yeah, that definitely like goes into what you're talking about
as far as like getting every piece of media or
promotional artwork whatever from from a franchise. I guess yeah,
I guess you could catch me in that too, which
I did buy it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I did buy that gizmo from Spirit of Halloween last year.
He's like right there with the ghost face mask on.
You can't see it, but I have a gizmo with
a ghost face mask on. Why because I don't know origin,
because I didn't know where to put the ghost face mask.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Boys, I think you're gonna have a lot of fun
with this next one.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Bring it on.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
The Horror is art philosopher.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
It sounds like a twenty four people aha exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
So this fan approaches horror from a deeper, more intellectual perspective.
They love dissecting themes symbolism, and the social commentary hidden
in horror films, often quoting directors or philosophers influenced the genre.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Wow. Actually, yeah, well that's what I hear.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
My big problem with these assholes is they often like
to dive deep into things that is not there. It's
cool if you want to point out this or that
that is obviously a point of the film, right Like,
oh yeah, now that you point out, I see it.
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But oftentimes I see a lot of these people digging
and digging and digging, and it's not there. And it's
almost like they're trying to convince themselves of all these
technical reasons. It's just not there.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I don't know why you just can't say, you know,
this movie might not have a lot of substance to it,
but I like it. Why not just say that, besides
having to sit here and you know, tell me you're
digging for goal, but you're you know, you're on a
paddle boat in the middle of Montana.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
That's what else pisses me off is that if we
sit here and we say we like a film like
Heart Eyes, and they look at us and they say, oh,
you like that mindless stupid shit and then they do
an a twenty four film which is more of an
artsy film, and they name all these deeper fucking social
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commentaries and all this, and we're like, yeah, for I
didn't see it. Second of all, I don't care about it,
and third of all, has nothing to do with horror
in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, you're sitting here telling me that I'm looking at
Mona Lisa and you are trying to convince me reason
why she didn't smile is because of the war going
on that no one really knew about, and the sky
was purple and demons. Yeah me personally, Okay, cool, that's great.
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I'm glad that you can find substance in the movie.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That you know.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I may or may not agree with their substance there,
but you know.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
But for me, I feel like you're just trying to
be better than people.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's not cool. You would bash me because I.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Love Grimlins and I'm not sitting here saying that I
don't know what's an artsy, artsy movie that's not hereditary.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Midsummer Midsummer.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm an idiot because Midsommer is not my top five,
which I love. I love Midsummer it's actually probably one
of my favorite A twenty four films, next to Heretic.
And you're sitting here like, well, that's an actual good movie,
and Gremlins just for five year old to me, why
can't you just shut the fuck up and just like
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horror movies.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Yeah, even those movies that have that socialist commentary, even
that has what you call substance. I guess that's the
word you're going to substitute for, like sophisticated. Yeah, even
if it does have that, does that necessarily mean that
everybody has to like it just because it's sophisticated, or
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just because it's smart, or just because it has a
mind fuck to it? Does that mean that I automatically
have to like it. I can still think it's dog shit.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Just because it's an original idea doesn't mean right and
it's a good.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Just because I haven't seen it before doesn't mean I
want to see it again, exactly. I never want to
see the TV glow again.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh, oh my god, I never want to watch it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I would rather so my eyeball shot than watch that movie.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
But we would all sit here agree and say that
the stuff that we've seen in that movie, we really
haven't seen in any other film, but we don't praise it.
We still think it sucks even though we've never seen
anything like that. That's what I'm saying. We don't have
to praise it just because we've never seen it before.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Right, just because it's.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
New and groundbreaking or some people call it groundbreaking, doesn't
mean it's good.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I think something that fits really well. Talking about horror,
assholes are the gatekeepers. The definition Lyric just says insists
there's only one right way to enjoy horror. Well, I
feel like gatekeepers often are almost trying to keep things
away from other people.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, pretty much like, okay, I'm trying to think of
a horror movie ginger snaps. Gatekeepers try to you know,
this is my and you can't have it. Oh you
don't know about it, well you suck, but you can't
learn about it because I want it for myself. They
want to keep what they have to try to make
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themselves superor than you. But then when you try to
learn about it, they're like, no, you can't have it.
You're stupid anyway, that's your gatekeeper and gatekeepers can you
know fucking suck a banana with a peel on it.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yeah, And you know, the way that I compare it
as well is like kind of like, you know, you
listen to Metallica before they hit it big, and you're like,
this is the greatest band, But then they come out
with the Black album, they sell by Jesus copies, and
then all of a sudden, Eh, they're not my band anymore.
They're not something that I know and I can keep
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in my back pocket.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
It's an open secret now to me.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
When I hear Gatekeeper, they're always trying to keep the
newest something that nobody's found yet to themselves, right, and
then criticize you because you don't know about it. Yeah, like, oh,
you didn't know about this underground Norwegian body horror fly movie,
and it's it's really crazy if you think about it
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there for a minute.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
You love this, you're not really wanting it to succeed
as fully as it could.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Right. That kind of falls right into something we we're
gonna talk about in a little bit, but I'm gonna
go ahead and bring it up now. And that's the
elitist Oh Good's down on mainstream horror fans.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I can't stand this is definitely elitist.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I think that this describes your A twenty four fans perfectly.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, they will not watch anything from any other studio. Oh,
Sony put it out. Uh, it's gonna be a business tomorrow. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Twentieth century Fox boo, twentieth century No.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah, I mean we've kind of talked about this, but
elitist is a good word for it. I mean it's
my shit is better than your shit because you don't
understand my shit.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Right of cost. You like that in nineteen seventy nine
Halloween movie.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
And don't get us wrong, if it's a legit good
movie and you like it, that's fine. But you don't
have to shit on everything else that other people, like
if somebody wants to watch fucking shark Nato whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I've never understood why people sit there and gatekeep and
be these like dick hitd elitist. Why can't you just
take somebody under your wing, like, oh, you've never seen
phanfasm here, let's watch this together. I get enjoyment off
of people that haven't seen horror movies, like I get
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to watch them experience it like I did when I
watched it for the first time, and I think it's
so fucking.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Cool and You've done that a lot with me.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Y'all will be talking about a movie and I'm like,
I haven't seen that yet, and I'm almost embarrassed to
say that, but you always hit me by the hand
and you're like, oh, bet, let's go watch it right now.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Fuck yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Like to me, if you've never seen this movie, it's
a win win situation. I get to watch a movie
that I like, and I get to watch you experience.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Hopefully a movie that you like.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Right And on the opposite end of that, you know,
when I was growing up watching horror films and I
would get like magazines or when the rise of the
Internet happened, I'm that old and you hear people saying, well,
you know this movie that movie, and You're like, damn,
I thought I was pretty good into the genre. I
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almost feel embarrassed that I haven't seen that yet, you know.
And then I'll watch it and I'm like, oh, that's cool,
so learning and wanting to watch You can't watch it
if you don't know it, know anything about it, you
know what I'm saying. So the fact that you have
people that can recommend it to you, I think that's
a good thing.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You know what I mean the.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Thing that I would like to say about gatekeepers and elitists.
If there's somebody out there or maybe you know somebody
this like this, and maybe they give you a hard time,
I would like for you to tell them that they
wasn't born with the knowledge that they have. At one
point they were just like you. They didn't know Adam
from Eve. They had to sit there and watch Halloween
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because they haven't seen it. They haven't seen Demons, they
haven't seen Demon Night. They haven't seen Taels from the Crypt,
they haven't seen X, Y and Z. You just don't
acquire it's it's not like it's the matrix. You sit
in a chair, you put a chip in, and you.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Know everything exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
You have to fucking you have to crawl before you
can learn how to walk.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Don't forget where you came from.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, and these dickheads forget where they came from.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
One of our buddies, whose birthday was a couple of
days ago, he had never seen The Shining Know what
he did? He came to my house and he watched
it with me because he knew it was my favorite movie. Now,
did I turn did I turn my no up and
say what you've never fucking seen that. You're three years
older than me and you've never seen The Shining.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Did I do that?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
No? He said, Hey, maybe one day when I'm off
and you're off, I can come over. We can watch it,
you know. I said, fuck? Yeah, And you know what happened.
He came over and he washed it.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
He loved it then washing it in the theater. Yeah, And.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Then we turned around and our local theater was playing
the Flashback Cinema and The Shining was playing, and he
liked it so much that he went and saw it again.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So he's seen it twice.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Absolutely, And that's how it should be.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's how it should be. Yeah, I think you should
take pride in showing people. Well, if you haven't seen
it now, you'll never see it.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
All right, let's move right along, boys, to the spoiler
who will reveal the plot twists before they happen, or
the endings ruiner who ruins the endings.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Okay, there's a difference in these two my personal opinion.
So the person that you have what the ending spoiler
and what's the other person?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yes, we have the endings ruiner and the spoiler who
reveals like plot twists and things like that before.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Okay, I'm guilty of the plot twist. I am that guy,
but to my credibility or my character, however you want
to put it. I don't try to figure these things out.
For some reason, they just click.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I don't know how it works. I'm not sitting here
like you know the math equation with the fat guy
from the hangover where he's counting the cards and shit.
It's not like that with me. It's literally I'm just
sitting here and I'm like, that's the killer, like.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Five seconds into it. Yeah, I don't try. I don't try.
I say it though.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
You kind of get a little satisfaction when you get proven, right,
come on.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
A little bit, a little bit, a little bit. I
told you, I told you, I told you, I told
you so. But no, but here's here's that. Here's my
thing though.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
If I don't say it and make somebody known that
I said it, then if it happens and I say
I saw that five seconds into it, they're gonna be like, bitch, please.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Ain't nobody notice that.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So it's a lose lose situation in that I just
got to think to yourself, what would you rather just
be the person to say I told you so, or
you know, you're gonna sound like an asshole either way
in my situation, you are, but because we'll be talking
like we're normally talking like yeah, I saw five minutes
into it, or I, you know, lean over to Atlanta
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and be like, hey, the such and such I.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Of this second one.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
When when you I kind of do the second one
a little bit, I'm like you, I don't want to
sound like an asshole and say I saw it coming,
so I'll like try to substitute some where. Its like
I had a feeling that's the way they was going.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
But see then to me, I'm like, i'd be lying
because I knew it. But I do try to not
like spoil the ending.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I try.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
You don't want if Leanna comes out of a movie
and she's like, I fucking love that. I thought it
was so original, so I thought it was so great.
You don't want to be the person to go, uh, yeah,
I saw it five minutes in the movie. You don't
want to make her feel like she's fucking stupid.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, I don't. I don't want to make anybody feel stupid.
It's not that I'm trying to. I swear to God,
I'm not trying. I'm not trying to make nobody sound
stupid or like I'm superior. It's literally I could just
be watching the movie and then it just clicks.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
You have this unnatural gift for it.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
And we also have to point out we also have
to point out the fact that just because the movie
is easy to figure out doesn't mean that it doesn't
go on to still be a good film, right exactly,
an easy figured out film is still can be fun.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It still can.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah, but you know what, you're not, Ripper. You are
not a know it all.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Nobody likes it all.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Nobody likes to know it all. That someone who corrects
everybody else's horror knowledge.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well, actually I am. I do that.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Yeah, but you don't do it in a know it
all way, at least not with us.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, he does it to me.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
He's nicer to he's nicer to the mom.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Ripper will say something and I'll just go, actually, no,
I don't do that.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You say it wrong. Yeah, yeah, you're worse. You're like,
what is it nineteen eighty six?
Speaker 5 (29:44):
And I just go no, and I let it linger
for a minute, and then I go nineteen eighty two,
because you're a jackass.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I do that.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I do it purposely to like crack a smile. I
don't do it because it's like this fucking idiot doesn't
know any But some people are like that.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Though some people are are You're not like that with
anybody else.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Like there's times where I know you know the answer
and you do a slip up and I fuck with you. Yes,
but there's other people that are quick to correct you
and legitimately think you're a fucking idiot, you got it
wrong and you should know this.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I've actually seen you talk to people horror movie fans,
and you have a pretty good way of like correcting
them because, like, say the date's wrong, you'd be like, actually,
you know it was nineteen seventy nine, but that doesn't matter.
Then you'll roll with the point that they were making.
You do it in a very good way. Other than me,
you're a fucking jerk.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Sometimes well sometimes I catch what they're saying, you know,
especially if they're talking about like a Friday thirteenth or
Halloween or whatever, and they say, man, you know back
in nineteen eighty one, I was watching Halloween and I'm thinking, no,
you were watching Halloween too.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Good choice.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
You know, first one came out in seventy nine. You know,
I do shit like that, But probably was in nineteen
eighty one at home, fucking three years old watching fucking Halloween.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Two. Didn't know it was Halloween too, thought it was
probably fucking just Halloween.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, only nerds know the fucking years and dates and
actors and actresses. And I'm hosters and I'm a nerd.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
And I'm self proclaim and I'm kind of proud, but
not too proud tonight.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Sweet doll.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
The next one that we have is the over analyzer,
someone who picks apart every detail, which often makes them
miss out on the fun of the movie.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
I think we're all guilty of that, especially now. I
don't think that we do it constant, right. I think
that we do it for certain films. There are certain
films that me and you may consider very fun, and
the ripper cuts the fucking legs off of it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I'm pretty terrible about that, especially since we started this podcast,
because I'm looking at it not really one hundred percent
from a horror fan perspective, but as a critical perspective.
I'm not going to call myself a critic, but I'm
being critical of the horror movie.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Critics are overrated.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, take the two thumbs and stick them in your bomb.
As far as being critical, I want to make sure
that the people the cult are family friends. Whoever spends
their hard earned money on these things, are, you know,
getting their bang for their buck. Yeah, and that's why
I'm critical. I probably could ease up on the criticism
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a little bit, but.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
You have fun with that though, Hey, yeah I do.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
But people make a lot of fucking bonehead decisions in
horror movies that some are just fucking unnecessary. Like if
you're making a movie and you need to take a
left turn and it makes sense to take the left turn,
take the fucking left turn. Don't turn right just to
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fucking turn right. That doesn't make sense to go around
to get back to the left unless there's a reason
why you had to turn right. Well, that's what I'm saying.
You're turning right just to turn right, but then you
have to bring yourself all the way back to the left,
when you could have just went left and it would
have made a lot more sense, and it would have
been a more smoother ride.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
That's what you call it.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
A plot hole, fucking hit in every plot hole in
the way there.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You know what, I really hate.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Peanut butter and mayonnaise sandwiches.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
But what I hate more are one uppers people who
always have a scarier movie recommendation.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Thank God, I'm not like that, not here, honestly. Honestly,
if somebody tells me they've seen something and I've seen
it maybe twenty years ago, what do I always say?
I'm like, oh, yeah, oh that's cool, man, did you
like it? I don't go yeah, I've seen that twenty
years ago.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
You need to see this.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I saw it on opening night before even opened.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I can't get behind that whole concept of God.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I was there before there was there.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Yeah, And that kind of goes back a little bit
of discovering something before somebody else discovers it, you know.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'll watch that movie back in the day.
You're just now getting around to it.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Fuck off.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I saw the original, uncut Japanese Toronto Detroit version.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I don't know that this one is necessarily as negative
as some of the other ones have been, but we
do have the fans who are very much genre snobs,
so they only really appreciate certain types of subgenres.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
See, I don't think about that because I like so
I like horror.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Yeah, I'm an overall horror fan. Like we've sat right
here and told you our favorite genre of horror is slashers.
That doesn't mean that we dismiss everything else, because we don't.
Because listening to this podcast, you know we don't. And
you know that we tell you, like, oh God, here
comes another fucking Jesus Exorcist movie and we're dreading it.
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But if it's really good, we're gonna tell you it's
really good. We're not just gonna sit here and say, oh,
it was another one, you know what I mean. And
we don't really care if it's good or bad. We
just are sick of this fucking genre. No, we will
tell you if it's good or bad.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, Like the first omen, it was fucking amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
And I immediately wanted to rewatch it.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yes, Well, to me, it's like seeing you're a music fan,
but you only listen to specifically pop music, right, that's it.
You don't listen to any other type of music. To me,
you're a pop fan, you're not really a music fan.
If you're a music fan, you listen to rap, country, bluegrass, metal, rock, electronic, eighties, nineties,
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two thousand's everything under the sun. And that's how I
feel with horror. I can't just sit there and be
a gore horror all day.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I gotta change it up some. I gotta have a slasher.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I gotta have a rom com slasher now that I
didn't know, you know, I need it in my life.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I need that now.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I need my heretics, I need my shinings. I gotta
break it up some because if everything is the same,
then nothing's different and I can't appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Yeah, And just like the mom said, I don't think
that this category is as offensive as most of the
other ones, because if somebody says, if I say, do
you like horror films and they say, well, you know,
I like vampire films, I can still be like, oh
that's cool, Like it's not gonna bother me that they
don't watch zombie.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Movies, because they're not being a dick.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
It's just they're not putting down anything else. They're right
telling you what they like exactly. Kind of similar to
the genre snob, though. It's something that we have called
the horror gait crasher, which is someone that only shows
up for the most popular horror movies.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I've never ever ran into somebody like that.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
You know who these people are to me?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
When we're in the theater and those young ass kids
come in there and they talk through the whole thing,
and you know that they don't give a shit about
the movie that they're watching. They're just there because it's
popular to be there.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Ooh, that's good. That's the nail on the head that
hit it. Yeah, they're there to watch Scream because it
scram That was the very first franchise.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I thought to myself, like, where these people could qualify
to be in like Scream. It's not that they're horror
movie fans, it's that Scream is probably one of the
most pops the horror genres still going strong.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Today, right into those fans. I hope that somebody sticks
their penis and your popcorn.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Yeah, if you go, if you go to a theater
and watch a movie and you giggle and it's not
a comedy, suck a dick, a buttery one, a buttery one.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Something that does suck is the people.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Who are freaking jump scare predictors. So they give you
the jump scare before it happens because they see it coming,
so they scare you before the jump scar happens.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
See. I fight the urge to do that with you.
I really do.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
You've only done it a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
I think, shut the fuck up and let her have
an authentic experience.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I do. I do, God damn it.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I've never done it in a theater though. Oh that's good,
that's good. Yeah, it's only at home. I wouldn't dare
do it in a theater because I don't want to
ruin anybody else's experience or possibly embarrass her because nobody
else jumped. But it's it's kind of fun timing it right.
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I'm not gonna lie. It is a little fun, but
I try very hard not to because I don't want
nobody's movie experience ruin. I know I would hate it
personally if I'm definitely trying to watch this movie or
I have been really looking forward to this movie and
then somebody's like, you know, fucking westmy.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
But you know what's funny about me is I can
see I can be like a jump scares coming and
a jump scare still gets me, but I love it,
so I'm okay with it.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
I think most of us can predict jump scar. We're
expecting it when it happens, and the timing of it
might be a little off or whatever, but we know
it's coming. It's like, oh, the camera cut here. What
And a lot of times newer film tries to get
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you with that because they know you expect it right here,
and they purposely wait maybe three seconds, and then they
do it. And now that's kind of getting.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
To a trope.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
It's very much a trope. But you know how y'all
feel about jump scares, like you can see it coming.
That's how it is when I'm watching a movie and
I figure out a.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Plot right like, you're not looking to figure it out.
It just kind of happens.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, you know how the scene kind of sets it up.
You're like, they're gonna do a jump scare. That's how
it is when I'm watching a movie for the first time.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Interesting, your your mind is very fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
That's the best way I can describe it to you
and the listeners out there is that you can see
the jump scar coming and then you're like no shit,
that was a jump scare coming. It's literally like that.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
But at least you're not like, oh, it's totally predictable.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
No, I would never do that because I in my mind,
I know it's weird. My mind works weird, So I
don't want to sit there and be like, well, that
was fucking obvious. Nagaa five stars. Yeah, like we touched
on earlier. Just because you can figure out doesn't mean
it's a bad film. But there are people out there
that give films negative reviews because they quote it's too predictable. Well,
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I figured out one of the killers and hard Eyes,
and I still give it a five.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yep, just saying okay.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Another fan trope that is not super fun is the
horror skeptic, someone who constantly questions the logic and horror movies.
To me, this is a person that just do you
not know how to have fun?
Speaker 1 (41:30):
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, no shit, unless it's actual people insert strangers. You
know that no supernatural elements is just humans hurting other
humans and nothing else. Anything else is gonna be You
have to suspend your disbelief because there's no such thing
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as a fucking zeno morph right right, there's no such
thing as I don't know fucking one hundred foot fucking
crocodile or a tornado of sharks. But there's also no
goddamn et there's no dinosaurs like in Jurassic Park. I'm sorry,
but you're not gonna see Vin Diesel actually fucking jump
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a ramp and fly a car to the fucking outer
skirts of space. That if you're okay with that, and
then you question the logic of I don't know Sam
from Trick or Treat Eat My toe jam ew.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
Yeah, And there's there's a significant difference between a film
creating a plot and going deeper, kind of like maybe
your terrifier that you started off and it doesn't really
lure to the fact that it might have supernatural stuff
in it. Then you watch the sequels and it definitely does. Yeah,
And it's a difference in that and a film just
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totally not making sense, throwing shit against the wall making
it stick, and then they're like.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Why'd you try to go like that? And it's like supernatural.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
But I would say that ninety percent of movies is
not real. Yeah, there's no buzz light Year, there's no
Woody Dirty dancing didn't happen. Forrest Gump is a fictional character,
Batman does not exist. Captain America is on the fucking
big screen. Yeah, I mean, I could go on for
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fucking days. Everything that you would consider an all time
great classic is ridiculous. I'm sorry, it's not believable at all. Yeah,
it just doesn't fucking happen like that.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
These films are about fun, They're about fantasies. That's probably
the reason why I love horror so much. I want
to go and I want to get lost in something
that I normally don't experience every day. I don't want
to go to the theaters and watch two people fall
in love and you know, do all that stuff and
stuff that I could possibly do in my real life
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or I see other people doing. If you like that stuff,
that's fine. I'm not shitting on it. I'm just saying
I'd rather have my mind blown. I'd rather have fucking
Bruce Willis jump out the fucking building and die heart.
I would rather have I want an experience.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, sorry, but you know, T two isn't really gonna
happen in real life.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
It's not really gonna happen. That's why we go to
the theaters and watch it.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Right, it's sorry escape from reality. Yeah, I mean, And
don't get me wrong, I'm not an asshole. I'm not
like these other elitists that you know, romance movie sucks
and whatever, hey is that's your thing, go for it,
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
We have talked about this a little bit already, and
it seems to be a reoccurring theme in several of
these points. But we have the franchise loyalist.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Franchise loyalist.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Oh god, if this is what I think it is,
then we're definitely guilty of this.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Only watches movies promise specific franchises.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Oh fuck, no, I think you're thinking of I find
excuse us is to make Halloween h two it work.
That's that's what I mean, right, Like, it's not it,
it's not good.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
I think there's a category on there that kind of
says stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Because my brain went to where I think your brain
was going, not franchise, but production companies like A twenty four.
That's where my brain went. Was like, if it's not
made by these people, it's trash. If it's not A
twenty four, it's trash. But they're talking about franchise like
Halloween Friday the thirteenth, like scream.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
Like, oh, I'll only go to the theater if it's
a proven franchise that I know, like a Halloween Friday
thirteenth saw. You know, if it's a brand new horror film,
I'm not going to take the chance on it.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Right, Okay, Yeah, we're not like that. Open your mind
and your asshole.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
If you're like that, you're missing out on a lot
of good stuff and you're going to be the one
five ten years later where everybody is talking about a
movie who is now turned into a franchise and you're
were like.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Well, fuck, I should have win saw it, right, I don't.
I don't feel like they would say that they missed out.
I feel like those people kind of just shit on them,
or maybe whether they're the elitist.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
Or maybe after three or four movies, they'll get into them.
Maybe after three or four movies and they're like, oh, well,
there's three or four movies I can watch back to back.
I can just watch them all on HBO Max and
get caught up.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah, fuck them.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Last, but not least, we have the two scary critic
and by that I mean people that complain that movies
are not scary enough.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Which we've talked about again bit recently.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
The worst for last these.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
Yeah, first of all, let's people, let's let's say this
being scary is objective. Okay, Yes, the Ripper has talked
numerous times about how Growing Up Child's played fucked him
up child. I myself am not afraid of dolls or
any thing like that. They don't creep me out. But
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who would I to say? What the fuck's wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Ripper? I shouldn't, so I don't.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
And I think that if you're if your thing is
maybe you're afraid of the water, so maybe Jaws really
fucks with you, or maybe you know, you had a
traubatic experience. So any movie that has like ghosts or
paranormal stuff in it, like.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
You really get creeped out.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
By, you know, or maybe you know some backwoods fucking
Hillbillies Wrong Turn or fucking Texas Trains Homemaster or something.
You know, it's all subjective. And to sit here and
tell somebody that a film is not scary based on
your merit without saying, in my opinion, first it's okay
(47:51):
for you to say that, but.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Use in my opinion, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I'm a firm believer that the movies that we watch
at a young age are the ones that are going
to be the most scariest to us forever, the ones
that are gonna be the I guess, the most traumatic.
The best way to put it, yeah, like impactful, because
like you said, you know, it's child's play, Like Chucky
gives me the he be GBI's it's because you know
the my buddy doll situation that you know, I was
(48:19):
literally watching the movie with and you know, I'm watching
this and it's like right there and Brad Dorf's voice
creeps me out to this day. And I had my
buddy too.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
It's just one of those things that creep me out.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
But see, I won't even watch Chucky because dolls freak
me out that bad.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
We'll see there you go, Well, Texas Chainsaw doesn't affect
me like it does you, Like you can't watch Texas
Chainsaw Master lights off.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
Exactly because I saw Texas Chainsaw Masker at the right age.
I don't know how old, well was maybe five six.
I saw it on an old VHS tape and it
fucked me up. I mean, I can sit down and
watch the movie, but I can't watch it with the
light off. I really can't because it freaks me out.
If Ever, there was a movie that really affected me
with atmosphere and mood and to get me that awful,
(49:07):
eerie feeling every time I watch.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
It's that movie.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
And like you said, there might be some others that say, well,
why do people always put chainsaw on a pedestal? I
watched it and I didn't find it scary at all.
Cool it didn't affect you the way it affected me.
You know, there's some people that say, could have been
our grandpas or older people that said, you know, back
in my day, Dracula was pretty fucking scary. We watch it,
(49:32):
we go, hmm, it's not pretty. It's not really scary
to us. But you know what I'm saying, So I
don't think we should put down anybody. And those people
that come out and say, well, this movie's not scary,
and oh you knew this movie won't gonna be scary.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
It was Pg. Thirteen.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
I'm sorry, but the conjuring was Pg. Thirteen and it
kind of creeped me out, especially the clapping scene.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Yeah, the clapping scene, so good one.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
I think that you know, we're always searching for that
child's play moment. We're always searching for that Texas chainsaw
mask or moment, and if it comes, great. We don't
not have a good time if we don't get that.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, what about you? Is
there a movie that was traumatic to you?
Speaker 3 (50:15):
If any Hush? Because and you know, you made a
really good point.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
A lot of it has to do with your own
lived experience and how it affects you and what your
own fears and things like that are. I have had
some really fucked up experiences when I was a kid
when it came to someone looking at me through the window.
And so when I saw Hush, it put me right
back in that headspace, even though I saw Hush as
a teenager, not as a child, but it put me
(50:41):
right back in that headspace of that time when that
traumatic thing happened to me, and it fucked me up.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
And I liked I didn't sleep that night. Yeah that's fucking.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Scary, dude.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I want to circle back around to the this elitist
type person that says, you know, it's not scary, so
it's getting one star. I can't stand that shit, because
if I rated any other horror movie off of Scariness period,
(51:14):
the only movies that I could say they give me
the Hebgb's or fucking Child's Play, So everything else would
be less than that movie. That's not fair because that
is not the greatest horror movie ever, right, not even?
I mean maybe Top ten Part two Part two is
the best, anyway, the overall I would have to put
(51:38):
Child's Play above Texas Chainsaw Masker, above Halloween, above Friday
the thirteenth, above all these other great horror movies. And
it's just not the case because it wasn't as scary.
Speaker 5 (51:52):
And you know, when we look up all these lists
online of you know, top one hundred horror movies or whatever,
do you notice some of them rink them by popularity,
some of them rink them. Some of them title it
the one hundred scariest movies of all time? How can
you do your rank? Like what do you base your
(52:14):
ranking off of? Like scariest? Like scar who you me?
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Like? What are you talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (52:21):
And I totally agree with you. The scariest movie might
not be the best movie. The best movie might not
even be all that scary. I don't particularly find my
favorite horror movie, The Shining to be scary. I find
it to be a little disturbing, But more importantly, I
find it to be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
That's why I like it.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
I love diving into his head of taking a guy
who's already on the edge and watching him go even further.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
That's fascinating.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
Yeah, It's like all he needs is a little push
and this fucking ghost, fucking hotel is gonna give it
to him.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
That's what I like by it.
Speaker 5 (53:01):
You know, going back to your you know, Texas Chainsaw Chucky,
you know, hush type of deal. I mean, it all
affected us. You can feel when somebody's looking at you,
you know, and sometimes when you're alone, you feel somebody's
looking at you and there's nobody looking.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
At you, and you know, you have these critics that
literally I see all the time, like this movie, this
movie isn't scary, this movie isn't scary. None of them
is going to be really scary after a certain point
in your life. And if you're literally basing movies off
of Scar Factor, I would.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Love to know your list.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I mean, honestly, like I love, love, love love the Exorcist. Yeah,
I'm not really creeped out by that movie. It doesn't
scare me.
Speaker 5 (53:48):
I'm not creeped out by it either, But I understand
why some people would be. I understand especially at the
time period it came out with, because religion was still
kind of like, you know, you don't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
It was taboo. It was taboo.
Speaker 5 (54:03):
So I can see like Catholics and Christians going, oh
my goodness, you know. So it's not like we don't
see the points. It's just it doesn't affect us that way,
and we don't expect others to be affected to what
we're affected.
Speaker 4 (54:17):
Pie.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Just watch what you like and just appreciate everything.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
Just don't talk shit about it unless it's hereditary.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
I think my ultimate takeaway, and I'll leave on this,
is that if you literally watched a great movie, I
don't know what movie you would consider great. I'll use
Halloween as a scenario for you. You watched a great
horror movie, you have nothing but good things to say
(54:48):
about it for the most part. Overall, you say it's
not a good horror movie because it wasn't scary. You
just discredited everything else that movie, the score, the look,
the kills everything. Yeah, but it wasn't scary. So it's
not a good horror movie because it wasn't scary.
Speaker 5 (55:10):
And you also discredited all the people who said it
was scary when they saw it when it first came out. Yeah,
so because you're comparing it to when you saw it,
which might have been twenty years later.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, if you watch a movie in your thirties twenties,
it's not gonna hit you the same as when you
watch something when you were ten, and you're solely basing
every horror movie off of it's scary and that's your
only criteria. Go play in a sandbox full of turds.
(55:46):
I mean, that's my best takeaway from it. Well, you
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Speaker 1 (56:24):
Ripper, and I'm taught of thunderstand Tutulu.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
By my little monsters.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Stay spooky and don't be an elitist dick
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