January 23, 2025 • 33 mins
The 2025 Wolfman: Guy moves back home, gets mauled by his deadbeat werewolf dad,and then tries not to ruin his family while sprouting fur. He starts shedding all over the furniture. Family drama, but with extra fur and howling.
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Speaker 1 (00:35):
What's Up? And welcome back to thirteen thirty one. I'm
your host, mister Ripper, and as always I have my
lovely co hosts here to help me. The one the
Only Todd of Thunder, Hey, what's up? And the Mistress
of the Monsters.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, Hey, my little monsters.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And we're back with our first review of twenty twenty
five with mister Lee Yail's modern spin on a classic
taill as you know it, The wolf Man without the
just wolf Man. Before we start diving into pros and
cons and everything, just to heads up with this episode,
(01:10):
we're diving into spoilers. If you want to watch this movie,
I would suggest you watch it before you listen to
the rest of this podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, before we cross over into spoiler territory. The reason
that we're doing that this episode is because we want
to be really authentic in what our experience was in
the theater. And if we think that something is genuinely
not worth your time or your money, we're gonna let you.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Know that one hundred percent, and this is falling into
that category. Now we'll talk a little bit before going
into spoilers. I'm not going to give you any cues
or anything so just be warned. Is this is going
to jump into it. Mister Thunder, what is your initial
I guess takeaway coming out? I took away that I
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did not like this lazy writing, right yep.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And when we go into our positives negatives, I can
get into more detail. But my overall opinion is I
did not enjoy this at all, Misscellana.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
One hundred percent agree.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You know, we had talked about both of us at
one point thought about getting up and leaving.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh yeah, I was. I was definitely right there and
that would be a trifecta effect because I'm right here
on board with the other two lovely people. Just like
most of the reviews I've heard from spook House and
Cody Leech on YouTube, they didn't like this movie. They
were fans of The Invisible Man, which I wasn't a
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fan of, and I was. I wasn't and I was
very hesitant going into this one also. But I guess
the pros and cons of this movie, I don't even
know the pros.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I guess I have one pro, you know, I can
go ahead and get and that was the sound effects
I liked in the film and the sound design I
liked in the film.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's it. Go ahead, Yeah, I dug that one. I
liked the They had some pretty decent practical effects in it.
I did like that. It would have been nice if
they would have did a full transformation, because they were
on point to making that pretty awesome. And then it's like, eh,
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we ran out of money. I don't think that's what happened.
I think that was the result. We got is what
he wanted. But other than sound design and practical effects,
I don't know what else I would be able to
give it a pro.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
What about Ulna, Well, I can't say this for the
whole movie, but there were moments where the cinematography was
really good and we had a very beautiful landscape. I
will say it wasn't the whole movie, wasn't even the
majority of the movie.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But when it was good, it was good.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
That's that's That's few and far between. Personally, I didn't
like anything about this movie. It was too dark. If
you are a fan of AVP RECOREM cool, you're gonna
love this movie. Yeah, this is a VP rectum wolf
Man rectum damn never killed him. But the thing that
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bothers me is that I know they had good shots
in the movie, like the open mountain scene. The beginning
of the movie was shot very well.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Right, like the first fifteen Yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
First fifteen minutes. It was probably the best part of
this movie.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, it felt like they did not do basic film
magic with this. Yeah, we get it, we're in the woods.
We don't need to really feel like we're in the
goddamn woods at night. Now, huse movie lights show me something.
I get trying to be authentic and stuff like that,
but you're also making a movie and you want people
to watch.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It, and you can have something dark and moody but
still be able to see it, for example.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, and I felt like a lot of the skares
in this film was halted by the lack of light.
There's a couple scenes where, you know, it's very few
gore scenes in the film, but the gore scenes that's
in the film, you just have to fucking pretend, honestly.
I mean, it's like you see it, you don't see it,
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and it's like Jesus, you know, somebody fucking pay the
bills and turn the lights on.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, the dark parts went on way too long. You
could have done it briefly for a good jump scare.
If you would have planned it right, you could have
had a really awesome jump scare. It got me one time.
I'm gonna be honest with you, audience, and that's because
I fell asleep and loud noise, A loud noise made
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me jump.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You're a jump made me jump, not natural scene.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And that's really sad. It's sad because, I mean, you
have this tension being built up by a pretty amazing
score and you just can't match the scars with it
because A you can't see it, and B it's pretty
underwhelming when it does happen. I'm starting to think to myself,
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even if we did see it, it was still probably
be underwhelming because of we'll dive into what these fuckers
look like. The dad part of it. You were supposed
to not like this guy, I mean, and I don't
think he was like really likable, but he was taking
his son hunting in the beginning and trying to show
him how to protect himself and you know, kill and
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ben for himself. And the boy didn't listen.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Right, I potentially put himself in danger.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, he could have killed himself. I mean, his boy
had a loaded gun with him, so to me, that
was just a dad being protective.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I do feel like he was a little overbearing, a
little like a hard ass, like a hard hard ass,
But I didn't see it pushing the boundary of abusive
or anything like that to the point where his son
would just get up and leave and not come back.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
To it for thirty years.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Right, Yeah, I guess I'm supposed to feel something, but
I don't. I don't give a fuck about nobody in
this movie.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
No, that was gonna be my next thing, I doubt.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I mean, I understand that he's trying to teach him
to be a man and everything, but I at the
end of this film, I didn't feel like it went
full circle with anything.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So waste of time, Yeah, it was. You could have
done so much with the storyline. If they were going
to spend fifteen minutes on it, they could have given
us like what happened to his mom, right, and that's
why he's so protective of the child, and come to
find out maybe within the first fifteen minutes or something like,
the reason why his dad so protective of him is
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because his mother was killed by one of these werewolves. Right,
there was ways and then you'd be like, oh, that's
why he's over protective. He doesn't want that to happen
to his son. You could have had some altercation where
he leaves and then you know, thirty years later he
comes back. But for some reason, he hated his dad
to the point where he left for thirty years and
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then when his dad dies, oh oh hey, let's take
the vacation. Our marriage is shit and we're gonna go
packing stuff up. It's gonna be great. It's a beautiful view.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
What right?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, you said it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You said it earlier that it was lazy writing. And
to me, what I find surprising about that is Lee
Whynow was a part of Insidious and Saw, but he's
been a part of writing really good.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Scripts, everything good that he's ever done. He's been a writer.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
This is his fourth movie that he's directed, and I
have seen all four, well three of them. I have
not seen.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
This movie called Upgrade that he did, but the other
one was Invisible Man. Like you mentioned earlier, it was
Insidious three was his directorial debut, and this movie makes
four and Insidious three was pretty decent, but it was
already you know, he's not blessed. He came Well, he
wrote the whole thing, which is cool, but he came
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in on the third chapter to direct it, so it's
not like he can fuck it up too much. But
these universal remakes that he's done has been dog.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Shit to me. Actually, I don't like anything he's really
done by himself. I think him and wand together made
pretty good magic.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Him as a writer and Wan as a director, or
a hell of a team. Him on his own. You know,
it's like you go to fart and your ship a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Maybe James like actually is the mastermind who's changing the
ship that he puts on the table.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Maybe I just think he's a shitty director. No, no,
Lee Lee Yea is amazing. He's one of the best
modern day filmmakers in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Did he direct and write?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah? So he directed, wrote, and produced. All of this
was him and it was no shit.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I'm still pondering why people loved Invisible Man, and I
guess people love that one, they were looking forward to
this one. Guess if you loved Invisible Man, you might
like this one a little bit. We hated Invisible Man
and that kind of carried on to this film. And
I don't want to see anything this guy directs ever again, Well,
miss Lana, you liked Invisible Man.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I did like in visil Man, but I absolutely hated
this movie. So do you not want to see it again?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I guess the best thing to do is ask somebody
that liked it so Invisible Man versus this, what was
the difference for you?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
To me? In Visible Man?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It was still kind of a slow burn, but I
liked the story more.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You know, I will say I really liked in visil Man.
I didn't love it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I'm not like an Invisible Man's stand, but I had
a good time with it. A huge part to me
is the acting was better to me an Invisible Man.
The acting and Wolfman was awful, which is confusing to
me because I haven't seen Ozark for myself, but I've
heard that our main leading lady, the wife was an
Ozark and people loved her and that. But what we
see in her and this film is nothing in comparison,
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and she was so not believable in her character.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
She wasn't at all that. I didn't feel like they were.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Married right honestly, there was no love there.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
No there was no love there.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
There was no reason to like root for her and
want to see her win and succeed and survive.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
As far as the father daughter situation goes, it was good.
And then it got to the point where I love you. You
know I love you. You know I love you? Right,
I love you. I think it's because I love you.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
They really beat you over the head with this, because
once he turns into the wolf man, they want you
to like, really feel some type of emotion. And it
fell flat to me. It felt really really flat to me,
and I understand what he was trying to do with this.
The daughter father relationship was a lot closer than the
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mother and daughter. So by the end of the film,
the father turning into the wolfman, meaning the daughter and
the mother are supposed to come together, so to speak,
and maybe bond over this horrific event. But yeah, they
were fucking stupid at one time. The son of a
bitch as the wolf man walks out of the house
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and then tries to claw and get back in this
movie is fucking dumb.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Jumping back to when he yelled at his daughter. This
was like within the first twenty minutes. It was after
the sequence with him and his father, and she wouldn't
listen to him, and she was like playing on this
like cender block, trying to like follow the line and
balance herself, and she wouldn't listen. And then I don't
think he really got that loud, and he's like, get down,
and then all of a sudden, she's like, oh my god,
(12:40):
you raised your voice at me. Some sensitive bullshit, but
it was too soon. You didn't build up to the
point of breaking. I think what they were trying to
do is show that there's something in him like his father,
maybe like his father, maybe like this inner beast type character.
But it fucking falls flat. And then like five minutes later,
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he's in the kitchen cooking dinner and his wife is
being a fucking annoying cunt on the fucking phone talking
to her job or whatever, and he politely says, hey,
I believe he even said please, hey, please, can you
go in another room and handle that? And then after that, yeah,
she completely ignores him, and then she hangs up the phone.
(13:23):
Can you not talk to me like that or some
shit like that. I forgot exactly what she said. I
could understand if he was like, hey, get off the
fucking phone, or you know, something aggressive, something to show
you that maybe there's something more there, but it's not.
She comes off looking like the villain, like the bad person,
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Like who wants to root for this person? Who thinks
that she's a good mother. You clearly show us that
she's not that great of a person and at one
point that she really doesn't want to or and know
how to be a mother.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's so confusing to me, because if you wanted us
to root for her as a character, make them an
extremely loving family all around. Yes, show the love between
the husband and wife so that when this happens it
pulls on our heartstrings.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right exactly. Yeah, you could have had that dynamic where, hey,
I'm not going to treat my family like my father
treated me.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I'm not going to be hard on my family. We're
going to be sweet to one another. Blah blah blah.
It's like new You get the complete opposite. Yeah, you
get to complete opposite. And I'm with you, guys. I've
already been on record saying I didn't like anybody in
this cast, and so I'm trying to justify.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Anything of that I kind of liked, and Nope, I
can't do it. Go ahead, No, I can't really get
behind bad dialogue, bad acting, the story just falls apart.
I think when his dad was on the Cebee radio
when he was a kid, it showed the tattoo on
his arm.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I think so it did in that first sequence. I
can't remember exactly, but you might be right when he
was on the radio, so they might have showed up.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Very brief if you if you blinked, you would have
missed it. Anyway, I'll get to the point of the
tattoo here in a moment. So they wreck and the
truck falls and gets stuck in the trees like Jurassic
Park style, and they gotta get out, and then this
big fucking where a wolf comes along. Supposedly I couldn't
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see anything. Supposedly one of the guys that was helping
him falls out were a wolf. Somehow they fucked this
scene up. So when he falls out and falls to
the ground and he's laying there, and then it cuts
back to the main guy and you see the horrified
look and you hear the quick noise, and it cuts
back to the guy and his stomach's ripped open. Then
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he pulls him Why the fuck why didn't they just
do like him looking down and then cut back up
the man and look back down. The guy's like help,
no cut or anything, and then that's when you see
the wh and pulls him. It would have had way
more effect. It was wasted well.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
And then we get to the point where our main
character supposedly gets scratched by the wolf, which I didn't
see a hand scratch. I didn't see a goddamn thing
except the window get broken.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I saw the paw come in, like break the glass.
Then they show him look at his arm and he's
got a cut. I've assumed it was glass. I didn't
realize untill later that it was to the.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Wolf your better eyes than me. I didn't even see
a pall come in. I just saw a fucking glasgow
an he went.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I think that was intentional that he wanted you to
think that it was the glass.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Maybe later on in the film, we see his arm
and it looks like it looks like a goddamn big
ass chunk comes out and it's constantly bleeding, And I'm
setting there thinking, well, goddamn, if it's that bad, how
come we haven't noticed it until now. Later on, when
they get to the house after they run from this thing,
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which they immediately lock eyes on this thing. They know
it's some kind of big creature. They don't know, they
don't know. They're sorry, I'm just thinking about that one
dialogue course.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
She goes, what the fuck was that? And he goes,
I don't know. I think it was an animal. It's like,
no shit, you dumb fuck. That's the dialogue we have
in this That is the dialogue. I'm sorry, I just
just thought of that with it. They're in the house
all of a sudden, this infection almost immediately takes place.
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There's no slop turn like I thought it was gonna be.
And him boarding up the house. I don't know if
you noticed, but he only boarded up one fucking thing,
and that was the main fucking door. Yeah, and the
whole time the dad was trying to get in and
he couldn't figure it out. When he turned into a werewolf,
he went straight up hopped on the fucking roof of
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the house and broke in through the window.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
What. Yeah, this this whole thing mainly takes place at
this house, isolated house, much like an evil dead cabin
in the woods type of deal. And you have a
greenhouse and a barn, and that's pretty much it. Both
of these things were used, but to the poorest extent possible,
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which didn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
The reason that I just had a moment, I forgot
about the freaking green house.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah, where the werewolf is literally jumping like, what are
you twenty feet in the fucking air?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
No. No, that was what pissed me off was the
greenhouse was shorter, It was probably like maybe eight to
ten feet above ground, and the werewolf's jumping up.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
There rarely scratching.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It, scratching it. My thing is, why was the werewolf
inside the greenhouse jumping up scratching it when he could
have just walked out of the greenhouse and jumped up
on the top up there with them, And the fact
he was jumping twenty five feet to the truck that
was suspended in the air.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Right, and then we get to the barn scene, right,
we get to this point they do this thing in
the film where we're seeing werewolf point of view and
he's like right in front of him and the barn
is dark. He can see them, they can't see him,
and we're seeing it from his point of view. He
can see everything in this barn, and he still steps
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on the goddamn trap. Oh, my god, I didn't even
think about that. The characters can't see a goddamn thing.
The thing that can see everything is the one that
hits the trap, like not like, wouldn't it been more cool,
or more dreadful, or more suspense if the mom might
have got caught in the trap, right cause you know,
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you know she can't see it. In addition to these
things looking stupid, In addition to this whole thing looking stupid,
I think that this is probably the dumbest were wolves
I've ever seen in my life too.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
If you want to call them were wolves, yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You know they're dog mans.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, they're dog mans. Their regular teeth started to fall out,
but then they really didn't have any medicine teeth in
its place.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It's like when you were a kid and you got
those vampire teeth and you put them in your mouth. Yeah,
and then I had got and you talked and you
looked really funny, but the teeth were not really scary,
but you felt like you look scary. Yeah, that's how
That's how it came off.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And then you know, he gets it, he gets his
foot called in the trap. I guess it's a fucking
callback to the original saw when he cut his fucking
foot off. But my thing is they have superhuman strength,
right right, they could easily break a goddamn trap like
that good point. Thing that pissed me off is that
he grabs the goddamn trap and is like, kill wedge it.
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But you can rip through fucking cars and jump twenty
thirty feet in the air and do all this fucking
damage and stuff, but you can't take a bear trap
and pride open. I could understand if maybe his animal
instincts were taken over and he couldn't logically think to
grab it and pull it. Okay, he's not thinking like
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a human, He's thinking like an animal, right makes sense.
That would make sense. Don't have him grab the goddamn
thing and.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Like, oh I can't open the store of mayonnaise. Well,
I'm just gonna take it there. That's another thing that
really bothered me in this film is that he convenient
his animal instincts conveniently took over when it was necessary,
but he still stopped and stared at him when a
real animal would have just attacked him. But like you said,
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he gets his foot caught and all of a sudden,
he don't know what the fuck to do right. It's
like it was only taken over when it was convenient
for the scene. Yeah, there was no smart writing in
this I felt stupid watching this movie, and I hate
saying that. I hate knocking that, and I hate to
be the person to say I feel like I could
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have wrote a better movie, and I do I do.
I don't know what happened with this guy. If I
didn't know going into this blind and watch this movie
and you would have said that this was the same
guy behind Saul, I would have told you to go
fuck off piss up a row because you're lying to me.
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I wouldn't believe it. And for the audience out there,
you're gonna hear me say something. As far as The
Invisible Man goes, I give that a five out of
five compared to this movie. I agree with you. I
don't like Invisible Man, but I would rather watch that
than this. Honestly, this movie he got the suspense right
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and Invisible Man at lee. He had an opportunity to
make this a simple, straightforward, just tension filled werewolf movie,
and he just fucked up on it. In my opinion,
I mean, he screwed the pooch and you know, for
the listeners out there, you guys know that I love
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atmospheric and isolated films and this met that criteria, but
didn't feel like it. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
This is like it's like making a peanut butter sandwich
and you realize it's only like one scoop of left
in the fucking jar and you can only do half
slice of bread.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's kind of fair to me. It feels like making
a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and you put Boloonian
mustard on it and call it a peanut butter and
jelly sandwich. That's what it felt like to me. Here's
your pbn J. It's Boloonian mustard on this. Pretend what
you get. You get what you get, and you don't
throw a fit son.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's your imagination, and.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
That's what a lot.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
That's what some people are gonna do with this film,
or they're gonna pretend like this peanut butter and jelly
sandwich is a big, juicy steak and it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Last, and hopefully least, we have to talk about the
ultimate thing that werewolf lovers like myself were drawn to
with werewolf movies is the werewolf. What does it look
like did they nail it? Did they get that part
of the movie right? No, they didn't. It looks like
they stopped mid transformation. I told you what I thought.
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They looked like. They look like fucking human leprechaun hybrids.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Hill living up in the mountains.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's like mister Mackie from fucking South Park with no shirt,
really big head and a lot of body hair. Honestly,
Todd could have been a better werewolf for this movie.
Well I had never seen well, fuck you both, and
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you have good teeth because I'm a man, he's I'm
a man. I'm a man. God damn it. Anyway, I
had never seen werewolfs man lose hair. Yeah, like literally
he became a werewolf and he lost hair like he
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was a baldy wear patient. Yes, he literally did what
grown men go through. He lost the hair on his
head and grew it on his body. I mean he
went from like forty years old to like eighty two
real fast. He was like Hult Cogan with that hairline. Man,
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he was I'm coming after you, brother, You're gonna get it, dude,
Yeah I did. I didn't like it at all, and
there was not a real American. Well, no, there wasn't
a real shot of the claws and stuff. The only
the only thing, the only close up we got is
when it was his hand and the claws were coming
out of his fingers. Very poor excuse for body horror.
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Honestly fucked that. Nah, this doesn't come close. This was
It wasn't good. I don't like it. You know, the
teeth falling off him biting his own self. That that
didn't make any sense to me. Biting your way out
of the trap. I can understand, because when animals are
trapped they do that like. That's a real thing. If
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you trap a wolf, he'll eat his own leg off
to get out of the trap. That's real. Now, as
far as the wound goes, I know that they'll they'll
lick it and coddle it and try to take care
of it. But I've never seen an animal just right
into the bitch. That to me was just like, oh,
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this will get the audience with er wow, lazy writing. Yeah,
at some point, don't it hurt.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Animal? Animals feel pain, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
If you can bite your own fucking shit off, why
do his head get bigger? I don't know his head
got bigger in his transformation. His body got smaller, he
got more body hair, but his head got bigger. The
silhouette looks stupid. It was nothing menacing about. Right, He's
on the ground like popping and cracking, and like he
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even grabs his jaw and like pops it to make
it look like he's in transformation. And it's like the
scene from uh Hugh b Halloween when the guy said
he's a werewolf and he turns into a werewolf. But
he didn't turn into a werewolf. I mean overall, it
just wasn't good then like it. It to me is
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a smack in the face of any werewolf movie I've
ever seen. I know he might have wanted to do
a more realistic approach, but you can't go but so
realistic on something this fantasy, right, Yeah, the most realistic
part of it is making it a disease, Like when
you turn into the werewolf, it's a permanent thing. Cool.
I can get behind that. There's no transformation. The transformation
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is a one and done thing, and it didn't build
that correctly.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, he looked so much more like sasquatch or Bigfoot
than he did a were wolf.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, he really did have that Sasquatch well, especially when
they go to like swerve and missing. It looked like
bigfoot walking in the road, right, But then when we
see his dad, he's not that.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Tall, right, the it's hard, it's hard to explain what
he looks like.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
The physics are just fucking off in this movie. You're right,
it's off because it's his legs were like really like
hairy harry, like a were wolf. The bottom half was
starting to look like a werewolf, and the top half
really wasn't there. My theory was, Okay, maybe it's a
slow thing. But his dad was gone for what months
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or something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, a long.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Time, gone enough to legally be considered did right, And
that's got to be a while.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
And when we see him, he's whole Cogan, the hair
on the head and the manciated looking man wolf whatever,
there's a man.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
There's a lot of scenes in this film where the
dialogue did not match what we saw. When he's describing
what he saw in the middle of the road, he's like,
I don't know what that animal was. It was it
was this, and it was that, and it was like,
from what I remember, it looked like a fucking man
walking you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, so, but as always, we give you the reviews
before we give you our reviews. Over at IGN, our
lovely gaming network that loves to tell us about horror movies,
they give it a six out of ten. Agreed. Now
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over it, I'm debah IMDb as I like to say,
they give this a six out of ten. Right right.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I wish y'all could see my face. My eyes were
real wide, very.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Wide, like Undertaker coming back for you. A lot of
wrestling references on this one. Now over at the tomatoes
that are rotten. The popcorn meter is at fifty eight percent,
which is pretty low. It's pretty low, and the tomato
meter is at fifty two percent.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
How do y'all feel about that?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I I feel like as the film goes into its
second week of being out and if there is more reviews,
I feel like it's gonna go down.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, I'll throw this in real quick. The Google audience
review summary is at three out of five.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
To me, this, I mean three out of five is
middle of the road. This is not middle of the
road for me. No, I'm not going to dive into
the comments. As always, Lanta, what do you give the
first movie of twenty twenty five that Blumhouse presented us
again with the first movie of the year.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's a two two two. You know that I really
have to not like a movie to give it below
a three.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I know she gives fives away like over Went.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Tree starting the year off with a dose.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Dose. This movie is a dose. It's a deuce, deuce thunder.
What are you giving? Well?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Speaking of deuce, I'm giving it a two as well.
I immediately thought of a two. The positives were the music,
the score, and I like the fact that we saw
the other side of the werewolf point of view. It
wasn't used nearly enough as it could have been. Besides that,
everything in this movie no pun intended.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Dog shit. Well, I'm not going to waste any more time.
Everybody knows me. I'm the very critical one as always,
and I give this movie a one, A one, A one. Wow.
This movie sucks shit in so many ways that it
ain't even funny. The thing that could have saved it
(32:10):
for me is the ultimate transformation, which is what was
presented to us. See it anyway, you wouldn't be able
to see it anyway, So it doesn't fucking matter. The
movie and its entirety just fucking sucks.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
You know this movie is it's like trying to jerk
off to somebody being undressed in the dark.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
What an analogy. Yeah, the score was digging to find
something good. The practical effects hats off to you. That's
what bumped it up from a half a star for me,
as the practical effects and I thought looked good. The
rest of it just dog shit pun intended. But if
you do get a moment, stop by over at our
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(33:14):
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Speaker 3 (33:32):
Tudalu I'm my Little Monsters stay spooky, and this movie sucks.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Please, if you're still listening to this, please don't go
watch this movie. It's fucking terrible. Love same time, same place,
Love you
What's Up? And welcome back to thirteen thirty one. I'm
your host, mister Ripper, and as always I have my
lovely co hosts here to help me. The one the
Only Todd of Thunder, Hey, what's up? And the Mistress
of the Monsters.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, Hey, my little monsters.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And we're back with our first review of twenty twenty
five with mister Lee Yail's modern spin on a classic
taill as you know it, The wolf Man without the
just wolf Man. Before we start diving into pros and
cons and everything, just to heads up with this episode,
(01:10):
we're diving into spoilers. If you want to watch this movie,
I would suggest you watch it before you listen to
the rest of this podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, before we cross over into spoiler territory. The reason
that we're doing that this episode is because we want
to be really authentic in what our experience was in
the theater. And if we think that something is genuinely
not worth your time or your money, we're gonna let you.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Know that one hundred percent, and this is falling into
that category. Now we'll talk a little bit before going
into spoilers. I'm not going to give you any cues
or anything so just be warned. Is this is going
to jump into it. Mister Thunder, what is your initial
I guess takeaway coming out? I took away that I
(01:57):
did not like this lazy writing, right yep.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And when we go into our positives negatives, I can
get into more detail. But my overall opinion is I
did not enjoy this at all, Misscellana.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
One hundred percent agree.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You know, we had talked about both of us at
one point thought about getting up and leaving.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh yeah, I was. I was definitely right there and
that would be a trifecta effect because I'm right here
on board with the other two lovely people. Just like
most of the reviews I've heard from spook House and
Cody Leech on YouTube, they didn't like this movie. They
were fans of The Invisible Man, which I wasn't a
(02:40):
fan of, and I was. I wasn't and I was
very hesitant going into this one also. But I guess
the pros and cons of this movie, I don't even
know the pros.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I guess I have one pro, you know, I can
go ahead and get and that was the sound effects
I liked in the film and the sound design I
liked in the film.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's it. Go ahead, Yeah, I dug that one. I
liked the They had some pretty decent practical effects in it.
I did like that. It would have been nice if
they would have did a full transformation, because they were
on point to making that pretty awesome. And then it's like, eh,
(03:26):
we ran out of money. I don't think that's what happened.
I think that was the result. We got is what
he wanted. But other than sound design and practical effects,
I don't know what else I would be able to
give it a pro.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
What about Ulna, Well, I can't say this for the
whole movie, but there were moments where the cinematography was
really good and we had a very beautiful landscape. I
will say it wasn't the whole movie, wasn't even the
majority of the movie.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But when it was good, it was good.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
That's that's That's few and far between. Personally, I didn't
like anything about this movie. It was too dark. If
you are a fan of AVP RECOREM cool, you're gonna
love this movie. Yeah, this is a VP rectum wolf
Man rectum damn never killed him. But the thing that
(04:19):
bothers me is that I know they had good shots
in the movie, like the open mountain scene. The beginning
of the movie was shot very well.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Right, like the first fifteen Yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
First fifteen minutes. It was probably the best part of
this movie.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, it felt like they did not do basic film
magic with this. Yeah, we get it, we're in the woods.
We don't need to really feel like we're in the
goddamn woods at night. Now, huse movie lights show me something.
I get trying to be authentic and stuff like that,
but you're also making a movie and you want people
to watch.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It, and you can have something dark and moody but
still be able to see it, for example.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, and I felt like a lot of the skares
in this film was halted by the lack of light.
There's a couple scenes where, you know, it's very few
gore scenes in the film, but the gore scenes that's
in the film, you just have to fucking pretend, honestly.
I mean, it's like you see it, you don't see it,
(05:23):
and it's like Jesus, you know, somebody fucking pay the
bills and turn the lights on.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, the dark parts went on way too long. You
could have done it briefly for a good jump scare.
If you would have planned it right, you could have
had a really awesome jump scare. It got me one time.
I'm gonna be honest with you, audience, and that's because
I fell asleep and loud noise, A loud noise made
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me jump.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You're a jump made me jump, not natural scene.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And that's really sad. It's sad because, I mean, you
have this tension being built up by a pretty amazing
score and you just can't match the scars with it
because A you can't see it, and B it's pretty
underwhelming when it does happen. I'm starting to think to myself,
(06:15):
even if we did see it, it was still probably
be underwhelming because of we'll dive into what these fuckers
look like. The dad part of it. You were supposed
to not like this guy, I mean, and I don't
think he was like really likable, but he was taking
his son hunting in the beginning and trying to show
him how to protect himself and you know, kill and
(06:36):
ben for himself. And the boy didn't listen.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Right, I potentially put himself in danger.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, he could have killed himself. I mean, his boy
had a loaded gun with him, so to me, that
was just a dad being protective.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I do feel like he was a little overbearing, a
little like a hard ass, like a hard hard ass,
But I didn't see it pushing the boundary of abusive
or anything like that to the point where his son
would just get up and leave and not come back.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
To it for thirty years.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Right, Yeah, I guess I'm supposed to feel something, but
I don't. I don't give a fuck about nobody in
this movie.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
No, that was gonna be my next thing, I doubt.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I mean, I understand that he's trying to teach him
to be a man and everything, but I at the
end of this film, I didn't feel like it went
full circle with anything.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So waste of time, Yeah, it was. You could have
done so much with the storyline. If they were going
to spend fifteen minutes on it, they could have given
us like what happened to his mom, right, and that's
why he's so protective of the child, and come to
find out maybe within the first fifteen minutes or something like,
the reason why his dad so protective of him is
(07:43):
because his mother was killed by one of these werewolves. Right,
there was ways and then you'd be like, oh, that's
why he's over protective. He doesn't want that to happen
to his son. You could have had some altercation where
he leaves and then you know, thirty years later he
comes back. But for some reason, he hated his dad
to the point where he left for thirty years and
(08:03):
then when his dad dies, oh oh hey, let's take
the vacation. Our marriage is shit and we're gonna go
packing stuff up. It's gonna be great. It's a beautiful view.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
What right?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, you said it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You said it earlier that it was lazy writing. And
to me, what I find surprising about that is Lee
Whynow was a part of Insidious and Saw, but he's
been a part of writing really good.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Scripts, everything good that he's ever done. He's been a writer.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
This is his fourth movie that he's directed, and I
have seen all four, well three of them. I have
not seen.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
This movie called Upgrade that he did, but the other
one was Invisible Man. Like you mentioned earlier, it was
Insidious three was his directorial debut, and this movie makes
four and Insidious three was pretty decent, but it was
already you know, he's not blessed. He came Well, he
wrote the whole thing, which is cool, but he came
(09:04):
in on the third chapter to direct it, so it's
not like he can fuck it up too much. But
these universal remakes that he's done has been dog.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Shit to me. Actually, I don't like anything he's really
done by himself. I think him and wand together made
pretty good magic.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Him as a writer and Wan as a director, or
a hell of a team. Him on his own. You know,
it's like you go to fart and your ship a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Maybe James like actually is the mastermind who's changing the
ship that he puts on the table.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Maybe I just think he's a shitty director. No, no,
Lee Lee Yea is amazing. He's one of the best
modern day filmmakers in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Did he direct and write?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah? So he directed, wrote, and produced. All of this
was him and it was no shit.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I'm still pondering why people loved Invisible Man, and I
guess people love that one, they were looking forward to
this one. Guess if you loved Invisible Man, you might
like this one a little bit. We hated Invisible Man
and that kind of carried on to this film. And
I don't want to see anything this guy directs ever again, Well,
miss Lana, you liked Invisible Man.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I did like in visil Man, but I absolutely hated
this movie. So do you not want to see it again?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I guess the best thing to do is ask somebody
that liked it so Invisible Man versus this, what was
the difference for you?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
To me? In Visible Man?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It was still kind of a slow burn, but I
liked the story more.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You know, I will say I really liked in visil Man.
I didn't love it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I'm not like an Invisible Man's stand, but I had
a good time with it. A huge part to me
is the acting was better to me an Invisible Man.
The acting and Wolfman was awful, which is confusing to
me because I haven't seen Ozark for myself, but I've
heard that our main leading lady, the wife was an
Ozark and people loved her and that. But what we
see in her and this film is nothing in comparison,
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and she was so not believable in her character.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
She wasn't at all that. I didn't feel like they were.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Married right honestly, there was no love there.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
No there was no love there.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
There was no reason to like root for her and
want to see her win and succeed and survive.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
As far as the father daughter situation goes, it was good.
And then it got to the point where I love you. You
know I love you. You know I love you? Right,
I love you. I think it's because I love you.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
They really beat you over the head with this, because
once he turns into the wolf man, they want you
to like, really feel some type of emotion. And it
fell flat to me. It felt really really flat to me,
and I understand what he was trying to do with this.
The daughter father relationship was a lot closer than the
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mother and daughter. So by the end of the film,
the father turning into the wolfman, meaning the daughter and
the mother are supposed to come together, so to speak,
and maybe bond over this horrific event. But yeah, they
were fucking stupid at one time. The son of a
bitch as the wolf man walks out of the house
(12:13):
and then tries to claw and get back in this
movie is fucking dumb.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Jumping back to when he yelled at his daughter. This
was like within the first twenty minutes. It was after
the sequence with him and his father, and she wouldn't
listen to him, and she was like playing on this
like cender block, trying to like follow the line and
balance herself, and she wouldn't listen. And then I don't
think he really got that loud, and he's like, get down,
and then all of a sudden, she's like, oh my god,
(12:40):
you raised your voice at me. Some sensitive bullshit, but
it was too soon. You didn't build up to the
point of breaking. I think what they were trying to
do is show that there's something in him like his father,
maybe like his father, maybe like this inner beast type character.
But it fucking falls flat. And then like five minutes later,
(13:00):
he's in the kitchen cooking dinner and his wife is
being a fucking annoying cunt on the fucking phone talking
to her job or whatever, and he politely says, hey,
I believe he even said please, hey, please, can you
go in another room and handle that? And then after that, yeah,
she completely ignores him, and then she hangs up the phone.
(13:23):
Can you not talk to me like that or some
shit like that. I forgot exactly what she said. I
could understand if he was like, hey, get off the
fucking phone, or you know, something aggressive, something to show
you that maybe there's something more there, but it's not.
She comes off looking like the villain, like the bad person,
(13:44):
Like who wants to root for this person? Who thinks
that she's a good mother. You clearly show us that
she's not that great of a person and at one
point that she really doesn't want to or and know
how to be a mother.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's so confusing to me, because if you wanted us
to root for her as a character, make them an
extremely loving family all around. Yes, show the love between
the husband and wife so that when this happens it
pulls on our heartstrings.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right exactly. Yeah, you could have had that dynamic where, hey,
I'm not going to treat my family like my father
treated me.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I'm not going to be hard on my family. We're
going to be sweet to one another. Blah blah blah.
It's like new You get the complete opposite. Yeah, you
get to complete opposite. And I'm with you, guys. I've
already been on record saying I didn't like anybody in
this cast, and so I'm trying to justify.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Anything of that I kind of liked, and Nope, I
can't do it. Go ahead, No, I can't really get
behind bad dialogue, bad acting, the story just falls apart.
I think when his dad was on the Cebee radio
when he was a kid, it showed the tattoo on
his arm.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I think so it did in that first sequence. I
can't remember exactly, but you might be right when he
was on the radio, so they might have showed up.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Very brief if you if you blinked, you would have
missed it. Anyway, I'll get to the point of the
tattoo here in a moment. So they wreck and the
truck falls and gets stuck in the trees like Jurassic
Park style, and they gotta get out, and then this
big fucking where a wolf comes along. Supposedly I couldn't
(15:22):
see anything. Supposedly one of the guys that was helping
him falls out were a wolf. Somehow they fucked this
scene up. So when he falls out and falls to
the ground and he's laying there, and then it cuts
back to the main guy and you see the horrified
look and you hear the quick noise, and it cuts
back to the guy and his stomach's ripped open. Then
(15:44):
he pulls him Why the fuck why didn't they just
do like him looking down and then cut back up
the man and look back down. The guy's like help,
no cut or anything, and then that's when you see
the wh and pulls him. It would have had way
more effect. It was wasted well.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
And then we get to the point where our main
character supposedly gets scratched by the wolf, which I didn't
see a hand scratch. I didn't see a goddamn thing
except the window get broken.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I saw the paw come in, like break the glass.
Then they show him look at his arm and he's
got a cut. I've assumed it was glass. I didn't
realize untill later that it was to the.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Wolf your better eyes than me. I didn't even see
a pall come in. I just saw a fucking glasgow
an he went.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I think that was intentional that he wanted you to
think that it was the glass.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Maybe later on in the film, we see his arm
and it looks like it looks like a goddamn big
ass chunk comes out and it's constantly bleeding, And I'm
setting there thinking, well, goddamn, if it's that bad, how
come we haven't noticed it until now. Later on, when
they get to the house after they run from this thing,
(16:56):
which they immediately lock eyes on this thing. They know
it's some kind of big creature. They don't know, they
don't know. They're sorry, I'm just thinking about that one
dialogue course.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
She goes, what the fuck was that? And he goes,
I don't know. I think it was an animal. It's like,
no shit, you dumb fuck. That's the dialogue we have
in this That is the dialogue. I'm sorry, I just
just thought of that with it. They're in the house
all of a sudden, this infection almost immediately takes place.
(17:32):
There's no slop turn like I thought it was gonna be.
And him boarding up the house. I don't know if
you noticed, but he only boarded up one fucking thing,
and that was the main fucking door. Yeah, and the
whole time the dad was trying to get in and
he couldn't figure it out. When he turned into a werewolf,
he went straight up hopped on the fucking roof of
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the house and broke in through the window.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
What. Yeah, this this whole thing mainly takes place at
this house, isolated house, much like an evil dead cabin
in the woods type of deal. And you have a
greenhouse and a barn, and that's pretty much it. Both
of these things were used, but to the poorest extent possible,
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which didn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
The reason that I just had a moment, I forgot
about the freaking green house.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah, where the werewolf is literally jumping like, what are
you twenty feet in the fucking air?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
No. No, that was what pissed me off was the
greenhouse was shorter, It was probably like maybe eight to
ten feet above ground, and the werewolf's jumping up.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
There rarely scratching.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It, scratching it. My thing is, why was the werewolf
inside the greenhouse jumping up scratching it when he could
have just walked out of the greenhouse and jumped up
on the top up there with them, And the fact
he was jumping twenty five feet to the truck that
was suspended in the air.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Right, and then we get to the barn scene, right,
we get to this point they do this thing in
the film where we're seeing werewolf point of view and
he's like right in front of him and the barn
is dark. He can see them, they can't see him,
and we're seeing it from his point of view. He
can see everything in this barn, and he still steps
(19:32):
on the goddamn trap. Oh, my god, I didn't even
think about that. The characters can't see a goddamn thing.
The thing that can see everything is the one that
hits the trap, like not like, wouldn't it been more cool,
or more dreadful, or more suspense if the mom might
have got caught in the trap, right cause you know,
(19:52):
you know she can't see it. In addition to these
things looking stupid, In addition to this whole thing looking stupid,
I think that this is probably the dumbest were wolves
I've ever seen in my life too.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
If you want to call them were wolves, yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You know they're dog mans.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, they're dog mans. Their regular teeth started to fall out,
but then they really didn't have any medicine teeth in
its place.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It's like when you were a kid and you got
those vampire teeth and you put them in your mouth. Yeah,
and then I had got and you talked and you
looked really funny, but the teeth were not really scary,
but you felt like you look scary. Yeah, that's how
That's how it came off.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And then you know, he gets it, he gets his
foot called in the trap. I guess it's a fucking
callback to the original saw when he cut his fucking
foot off. But my thing is they have superhuman strength,
right right, they could easily break a goddamn trap like
that good point. Thing that pissed me off is that
he grabs the goddamn trap and is like, kill wedge it.
(20:58):
But you can rip through fucking cars and jump twenty
thirty feet in the air and do all this fucking
damage and stuff, but you can't take a bear trap
and pride open. I could understand if maybe his animal
instincts were taken over and he couldn't logically think to
grab it and pull it. Okay, he's not thinking like
(21:22):
a human, He's thinking like an animal, right makes sense.
That would make sense. Don't have him grab the goddamn
thing and.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Like, oh I can't open the store of mayonnaise. Well,
I'm just gonna take it there. That's another thing that
really bothered me in this film is that he convenient
his animal instincts conveniently took over when it was necessary,
but he still stopped and stared at him when a
real animal would have just attacked him. But like you said,
(21:52):
he gets his foot caught and all of a sudden,
he don't know what the fuck to do right. It's
like it was only taken over when it was convenient
for the scene. Yeah, there was no smart writing in
this I felt stupid watching this movie, and I hate
saying that. I hate knocking that, and I hate to
be the person to say I feel like I could
(22:14):
have wrote a better movie, and I do I do.
I don't know what happened with this guy. If I
didn't know going into this blind and watch this movie
and you would have said that this was the same
guy behind Saul, I would have told you to go
fuck off piss up a row because you're lying to me.
(22:36):
I wouldn't believe it. And for the audience out there,
you're gonna hear me say something. As far as The
Invisible Man goes, I give that a five out of
five compared to this movie. I agree with you. I
don't like Invisible Man, but I would rather watch that
than this. Honestly, this movie he got the suspense right
(22:58):
and Invisible Man at lee. He had an opportunity to
make this a simple, straightforward, just tension filled werewolf movie,
and he just fucked up on it. In my opinion,
I mean, he screwed the pooch and you know, for
the listeners out there, you guys know that I love
(23:19):
atmospheric and isolated films and this met that criteria, but
didn't feel like it. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
This is like it's like making a peanut butter sandwich
and you realize it's only like one scoop of left
in the fucking jar and you can only do half
slice of bread.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's kind of fair to me. It feels like making
a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and you put Boloonian
mustard on it and call it a peanut butter and
jelly sandwich. That's what it felt like to me. Here's
your pbn J. It's Boloonian mustard on this. Pretend what
you get. You get what you get, and you don't
throw a fit son.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's your imagination, and.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
That's what a lot.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
That's what some people are gonna do with this film,
or they're gonna pretend like this peanut butter and jelly
sandwich is a big, juicy steak and it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Last, and hopefully least, we have to talk about the
ultimate thing that werewolf lovers like myself were drawn to
with werewolf movies is the werewolf. What does it look
like did they nail it? Did they get that part
of the movie right? No, they didn't. It looks like
they stopped mid transformation. I told you what I thought.
(24:34):
They looked like. They look like fucking human leprechaun hybrids.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Hill living up in the mountains.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's like mister Mackie from fucking South Park with no shirt,
really big head and a lot of body hair. Honestly,
Todd could have been a better werewolf for this movie.
Well I had never seen well, fuck you both, and
(25:01):
you have good teeth because I'm a man, he's I'm
a man. I'm a man. God damn it. Anyway, I
had never seen werewolfs man lose hair. Yeah, like literally
he became a werewolf and he lost hair like he
(25:21):
was a baldy wear patient. Yes, he literally did what
grown men go through. He lost the hair on his
head and grew it on his body. I mean he
went from like forty years old to like eighty two
real fast. He was like Hult Cogan with that hairline. Man,
(25:42):
he was I'm coming after you, brother, You're gonna get it, dude,
Yeah I did. I didn't like it at all, and
there was not a real American. Well, no, there wasn't
a real shot of the claws and stuff. The only
the only thing, the only close up we got is
when it was his hand and the claws were coming
out of his fingers. Very poor excuse for body horror.
(26:05):
Honestly fucked that. Nah, this doesn't come close. This was
It wasn't good. I don't like it. You know, the
teeth falling off him biting his own self. That that
didn't make any sense to me. Biting your way out
of the trap. I can understand, because when animals are
trapped they do that like. That's a real thing. If
(26:28):
you trap a wolf, he'll eat his own leg off
to get out of the trap. That's real. Now, as
far as the wound goes, I know that they'll they'll
lick it and coddle it and try to take care
of it. But I've never seen an animal just right
into the bitch. That to me was just like, oh,
(26:49):
this will get the audience with er wow, lazy writing. Yeah,
at some point, don't it hurt.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Animal? Animals feel pain, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
If you can bite your own fucking shit off, why
do his head get bigger? I don't know his head
got bigger in his transformation. His body got smaller, he
got more body hair, but his head got bigger. The
silhouette looks stupid. It was nothing menacing about. Right, He's
on the ground like popping and cracking, and like he
(27:22):
even grabs his jaw and like pops it to make
it look like he's in transformation. And it's like the
scene from uh Hugh b Halloween when the guy said
he's a werewolf and he turns into a werewolf. But
he didn't turn into a werewolf. I mean overall, it
just wasn't good then like it. It to me is
(27:42):
a smack in the face of any werewolf movie I've
ever seen. I know he might have wanted to do
a more realistic approach, but you can't go but so
realistic on something this fantasy, right, Yeah, the most realistic
part of it is making it a disease, Like when
you turn into the werewolf, it's a permanent thing. Cool.
I can get behind that. There's no transformation. The transformation
(28:05):
is a one and done thing, and it didn't build
that correctly.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, he looked so much more like sasquatch or Bigfoot
than he did a were wolf.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, he really did have that Sasquatch well, especially when
they go to like swerve and missing. It looked like
bigfoot walking in the road, right, But then when we
see his dad, he's not that.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Tall, right, the it's hard, it's hard to explain what
he looks like.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
The physics are just fucking off in this movie. You're right,
it's off because it's his legs were like really like
hairy harry, like a were wolf. The bottom half was
starting to look like a werewolf, and the top half
really wasn't there. My theory was, Okay, maybe it's a
slow thing. But his dad was gone for what months
(28:57):
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, a long.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Time, gone enough to legally be considered did right, And
that's got to be a while.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
And when we see him, he's whole Cogan, the hair
on the head and the manciated looking man wolf whatever,
there's a man.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
There's a lot of scenes in this film where the
dialogue did not match what we saw. When he's describing
what he saw in the middle of the road, he's like,
I don't know what that animal was. It was it
was this, and it was that, and it was like,
from what I remember, it looked like a fucking man
walking you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, so, but as always, we give you the reviews
before we give you our reviews. Over at IGN, our
lovely gaming network that loves to tell us about horror movies,
they give it a six out of ten. Agreed. Now
(29:55):
over it, I'm debah IMDb as I like to say,
they give this a six out of ten. Right right.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I wish y'all could see my face. My eyes were
real wide, very.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Wide, like Undertaker coming back for you. A lot of
wrestling references on this one. Now over at the tomatoes
that are rotten. The popcorn meter is at fifty eight percent,
which is pretty low. It's pretty low, and the tomato
meter is at fifty two percent.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
How do y'all feel about that?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I I feel like as the film goes into its
second week of being out and if there is more reviews,
I feel like it's gonna go down.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, I'll throw this in real quick. The Google audience
review summary is at three out of five.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
To me, this, I mean three out of five is
middle of the road. This is not middle of the
road for me. No, I'm not going to dive into
the comments. As always, Lanta, what do you give the
first movie of twenty twenty five that Blumhouse presented us
again with the first movie of the year.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's a two two two. You know that I really
have to not like a movie to give it below
a three.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I know she gives fives away like over Went.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Tree starting the year off with a dose.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Dose. This movie is a dose. It's a deuce, deuce thunder.
What are you giving? Well?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Speaking of deuce, I'm giving it a two as well.
I immediately thought of a two. The positives were the music,
the score, and I like the fact that we saw
the other side of the werewolf point of view. It
wasn't used nearly enough as it could have been. Besides that,
everything in this movie no pun intended.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Dog shit. Well, I'm not going to waste any more time.
Everybody knows me. I'm the very critical one as always,
and I give this movie a one, A one, A one. Wow.
This movie sucks shit in so many ways that it
ain't even funny. The thing that could have saved it
(32:10):
for me is the ultimate transformation, which is what was
presented to us. See it anyway, you wouldn't be able
to see it anyway, So it doesn't fucking matter. The
movie and its entirety just fucking sucks.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
You know this movie is it's like trying to jerk
off to somebody being undressed in the dark.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
What an analogy. Yeah, the score was digging to find
something good. The practical effects hats off to you. That's
what bumped it up from a half a star for me,
as the practical effects and I thought looked good. The
rest of it just dog shit pun intended. But if
you do get a moment, stop by over at our
(32:51):
social media's our media is that are social. You can
find us at thirteen thirty one Horror Cast across all platforms.
That's including Facebook, Instagram, the once banned TikTok that is
now back from the dead, and YouTube. We told you
we've been working on it, so we finally got the
YouTube channel up and slowly bush early we will be
(33:14):
releasing video content. Maybe maybe you have to go see
the YouTube and see what's there and not here or
here or not there. Who knows, But I know I
don't want to watch this fucking movie anymore. But as always,
thank you for tuning in. I'm jt Ripper and I'm
Todd of Thunder, saying.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Tudalu I'm my Little Monsters stay spooky, and this movie sucks.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Please, if you're still listening to this, please don't go
watch this movie. It's fucking terrible. Love same time, same place,
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