January 21, 2022 • 51 mins
We thought that the best way to celebrate the release date of Bloor Street was to unleash the audio interview with our esteemed guest Kiefer William Frederick Dempsey George Rufus Sutherland, also known as Jack Bauer.
This is taken from the exclusive 20 Years Of 24 event, which took place on the 20th anniversary of the 24 Pilot.
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2. Get your copy of Bloor Street here: https://ksutherland.lnk.to/bloorstreet
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The following takes place between five pmand six pm Standard Eastern time. Once
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I'm officially regional manager, my firstorder of business will be to demote Jim
Halpert, so I will need anew number. Two. My ideal choice
Jack Bauer, but he is unavailable, fictional and over qualified. Following takes
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place between eight am and nine am. Following takes place between nine am and
ten am. Hello, this isChloe. Hey, this is Tonan.
I need directors to the Emmy Awards. Who is this How did you get
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this number? Chloe? Listen tome. Jack, I'm gonna hijack subway
car. I need you to getin touch with the President. Tell him.
If I can't get access to theR three satellite coaches, millions of
people will die. Look, thereis no time for chit chat. I
also want a reservation in a goodItalian restaurant, West Hollywood. Ten thirty
eleven, Ish, Chloe, what'sgoing on? You have the phone?
Idiot? Yeah, idiot, Ithink she's you. I don't think so.
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Keeper. My name is Jack Bowen. I'll get off this line all
right, Jack bang Win. Sorry, Jack, I'm patching you through the
President now, Keeper, Chloe,I need those chromatics. Now, who
is this? I'm Jack Bauer.Who the hell are you? I'm I'm
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da duty, Chloe. Find outall you can about I made a duty.
Does anyone there know I made aduty? I meta duty? Wealthy
Saudi financier disappeared into Afghanistan in thelate nineties. Really no, Jack,
it's a joke name. You're beingset up, damn it. Okay,
well, but if you were likestuck in a trap in the woods and
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like a cougar was trying to eatyou, would you date that same?
Why would that even have it?I have no idea forget that, because
maybe your dad is ahead of someelite counter terrorists unit. You only has
twenty four hours to I don't know. The point is, would you date?
I guess I knew it. Textiles, FID drugs works for Jack Bauer.
Would you please welcome our esteemed guestand star of everything you've ever enjoyed
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in life, Keifer Sutherlands. Keief, thank you so much. Thank you
the anniversary today twenty years. Icannot it's mind boggling, you know,
I do. You kind of reallydon't realize what for me, at least
twenty four was such an integral partof my life and for a decade that
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it just literally feels like we wereworking yesterday. So it's just amazing to
think that twenty years ago today,you know, the series started that yazing.
I mean, we loved having onthe podcast on the twenty Years and
twenty four podcast a couple of monthsago, and I enlisted my friend Rachel
Go three who's also Canadian. Sowe're all Canadians here. We're all Canadian,
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and I'm going to introduce you toher, and she's going to walk
you through and talk to you andright ask some great questions. She's all
right, okay, great, Thankyou Rachel, Keifer, Keifer, Rachel,
Rachel. Very nice to meet you. Very nice to meet you.
Keifer. Thank you so much forjoining us today. This is a pretty
special event. Well, absolute pleasure. Thank you for having me. Yeah,
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I know, my pleasure. Well, I thought i'd, you know,
start off the interview with a littlenostalgia for all of your fans,
saying that the following takes place betweenfive and six pm Eastern Standard time.
The following takes place between five pmand six pm Standard Eastern time. Amazing.
Well, November sixth is a reallyspecial day. You know, as
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Ryan said, it marks twenty yearsof this show hitting the air day one
episode, one hour one Yeah,a lot of us feel that this really
changed the trajectory of TV, andyou know, you were a really big
part of that. Tell us like, how did you come into this role
as Jack Bauer? I was solucky, and in highsight, it almost
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appears like I did everything to makesure it didn't happen. But Joel ser
Now had talked to Stephen Hopkins,who was directing the pilot, and between
the two of them, they decidedI would be right for the part,
and Stephen Hawkins and I were friends, and he contacted me. I remember
going to the first meeting and Ihad a car accident and so I didn't
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make that meeting. I ended upmeeting later that day. Wasn't sure that
I wanted to do a television show. A bunch of things were in the
way, And at the very endof it, Susan Bymel, who I
work with, basically said, areyou crazy You're doing this job? And
she was right, and I acceptedthe part and it ended up being arguably
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the most exciting thing that I've everdone. Professionally so and certainly changed my
life for the better, and sograteful that that everything kind of lined up
to let me do it. Wow, that's amazing. So when you read
the first script, what was yourwhat was your reaction when you had that
first read, Well, it was, you know, it was I had
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not done a television show before,so it was very odd for me because
I was trying to imagine what episodetwo would be like and what episode three
might be like, and so Ididn't even really give it a very fair
read because I was kind of anticipatingall of the different potential directions that the
show could go. Some that Iwas very excited about, the some that
I wasn't so excited about. Inthe end, you know, obviously,
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Joel and Bob and their team wrotetwo hundred and sixteen amazing episodes of twenty
four that I was privileged to bea part of, you know, But
having not done a television series before, there were so many questions that just
are simply unanswerable when you're reading apilot that I remember looking at everything takes
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place in real time, which wasthe very first sentence of the pilot,
and I went, what the didthat mean and kind of brushed over it.
And it wasn't until episode three thatI kind of understood the real premise
of doing everything in real time.So you know, yeah, I was
a work in progress. That's okay, We're all the work in progress.
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So you know, up until thispoint, you had only done really,
you know, movies, films.So what was it that made you say,
yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna gothe TV rode? Well, television
was changing, and you were verykind and said that twenty four was one
of the vehicles that kind of helptelevision change. And I agree with you,
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but it certainly was changing earlier thanthat. And I can go all
the way back to Hill Street Blueswas a show that I absolutely loved.
It was a Stephen Botchko show.It was gritty in many circumstances, I
felt it was more realistic than alot of movies that I was watching.
And then you had Er, andEr was a game changer for me as
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well, and even as a filmmaker, and I directed a few films.
At this point, I was tryingto figure out how Er managed to get
the look that they did on thebudget they did. I was trying to
understand, you know, how theywere approaching shooting their shows in that way.
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So I was very aware that therewas high end television to do and
that there were shows that I wasenjoying more than a lot of movies that
I was seeing at the time,and I felt very strongly that twenty four
had the potential to do that.Of course, everything in the beginning stages
is a roll of the dice,and you know, I could never have
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imagined back then that everything would gothe way it did and be as we
would be as fortunate as we were. You know, certain bands work and
certain bands don't. And for whateverreason, Joel, John Gassar, Bob
Howard Gordon, the cast which wasextraordinary, and the fact that everybody kind
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of gelled and whatever we did,you know, mary Land, Carlos,
Raycohillsworth, just the list is huge, the depth of cast that we had.
But for whatever reason, it justall jelled. And you can try
and duplicate it and do that againa thousand times and it wouldn't work.
But for whatever reason, at thatmoment in time, that group of people,
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which I was so grateful to bea part of, just jailed excellent.
Yeah, you know, when Ithink about twenty four and you know
the fact that it went so manyseasons on the same concept of it being
one day. You know, thatreally struck me as something that was an
incredible thing to achieve and still have. You know, you're leaving on a
high note, right, You're youknow, just such a great, great
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concept. You know part of thatnine seasons, you know you filmed in
different locations. You know, wasthere one that you would say, yeah,
that was actually my favorite place tofilm? Well, yeah, it's
going to be London, England.Yes, that or seem Valley and nothing
against see me Valley, but Londonis London. London, England actually where
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we shot season nine was maybe theonly location I've been on for over five
months that I was really bummed outto leave. Uh you know, and
and I and I know for afact, and I don't care what he
says. John Cassar felt the sameway, and uh so, yeah,
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there was there was just something veryspecial. I mean, London was rocking
and rolling at that time. Uh, the world was in a pretty good
place and uh we we had wehad a blast there at that time.
That's awesome. So kind of tyinginto that would you then say your favorite
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storyline would match the favorite film location, or was your favorite storyline maybe a
different one? No, my myfavorite storyline. I think. You know,
I'm gonna have to go with seasonone just because everything was so fresh.
I mean I had I had asaying, you know, when I
read the first script for every newseason, I would look at John Cassara
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and I go, oh my god, how many bad days during one guy
have? Right? So there wassomething so fresh and exciting about season one,
and for me as an actor,it was all online territory. So
you know, there was a reallyinteresting moment for Jack Bauer at the end
of season two where just the pressureand the weight of that day, he
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broke down and he started to cry. But all of those moments that that
that character kind of had in allthe other seasons, all of that was
kind of structured and built and designedin season one. So I'm going to
always have an affection you know forthe first one. Yeah, Yeah,
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I think it was definitely. Yeah. It was one of those every new
episode was something new and real andraw. So yeah, I and we
were learning how to film it too. I mean for the first couple episodes,
all the driving shots we would actuallydo. There's a thing called a
process truck, and it tows thecar that you're filming on and you mount
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cameras on the car itself, andit's really time consuming, and we shot
like that for the first few episodes, and I think someone I think it
might have even been Michael Klick,who was a first Ida at the time,
who became a very incredibly valuable producer. I think it was him who
said, we can't do this anymore, and so we started doing everything on
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the process stage, and so wekind of perfected I think, in my
opinion, we would have some onego out in Los Angeles in film where
we would drive and then we wouldproject that and by you know, by
the end of season one, Ijust I couldn't tell the difference whether it
was real or not. And sowe were figuring out as the writers were
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figuring out how to tell the story, we were figuring out how to film
it, we were figuring out howto act it. And that whole first
season was an amazing education and it'swhat brought us, I think, together,
very close because at the end ofthe day, the crew that we
had from season one ninety eight percentof that crew was with us at the
end of season eight, and that'ssomething I'm probably the most proud of with
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the show, is that you together. That is amazing. You know probably
you know, having those same peopleon, you know, episode after episode,
season after season, you know itcreated this you know, this feeling
of family, right, you knowyou're giving on to that next chapter.
And what did that mean to youjust to have that kind of a dedicated
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crew over that many seasons, Well, it's it's hard to put into words,
you know. In a lot ofcredit, I'm gonna I'm gonna call
out Tina Kasar, John's wife.A lot of credit goes to her because
she had the best barbecues and wewould do them by, you know,
every month, and she would invitethe entire cast and crew, and everybody
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showed up. So there was thisvery familiar and family sense and atmosphere.
But also in the sense that whereI say it's hard to put into words,
a guy who was camera, aoperator who did almost all of the
handheld work. Guy and Jay werethe two operators and just extraordinary talents.
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I went to say goodbye to Guyat the very last shot of season eight
and I shook his hand and Imeant to say, it's been an absolute
honor, thank you for being mydance partner, and I couldn't finish the
sentence. And I'm not a I'mnot a real prior, but even now
I'm about to go, it waslike saying goodboute a brother. And I
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felt that way about everybody on thatcrew. You know, guy and I
just happened to work intimately together alot, but I felt very strongly about
that. And I do remember havingto kind of walk away for a minute
because I got very very emotional aboutthat moment because I was saying goodbye to
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people that I had seen every day, five days a week, nine to
ten months a year, twelve hoursa day, fourteen hours a day,
and I wasn't going to be ableto see them like that anymore. And
it was heartbreaking. So it's justhard to describe how much it meant to
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me that ten years. Wow.Yeah, And you know, I can
just imagine the impact that they stillhave on you all this time later,
just in how you're answering it andyou're saying, oh, I'm emotional,
Well, okay, and I'll giveyou a hint on my phone I have
a list of kind of the castand over the years, and you know,
it's been twenty years, and Idesperately don't want to get someone who's
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name wrong or something like that,And just going through the list the smile
on my face and people that assoon as we finish talking, I'm gonna
call and go, oh my god, i'n't spoken to you for a couple
of years. I guess you somuch. How are you? So it's
you know, so I'll thank Joelfor putting this whole thing together, just
for that alone again as it wasjust it was such a special thing.
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And you know, as an actor, for me at least, all you
want to do is work, youknow, and you're so grateful for the
opportunity because there's so many great actorsout there that don't have the same opportunity.
So to be able to do twohundred and something episodes of a show
that you absolutely love, oh mygod, you know, the gift of
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a lifetime. And I will alwaysfeel that way about it. Of all
that, and that is an incrediblegift to have that start. Well,
well, I'm the luckiest guy Iknow. That's awesome. So you know,
as you were going into it,and a few of the other actors
and actresses have kind of alluded tothis today. You know, reading each
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script not knowing what the next episodeheld for your character, right, you
know, where you're going to live, where you're going to die, what
was going to happen. You know, how did you process that week to
week over those you know, twohundred plus some episodes. Well, it
was really hard. I'll give youa funny instance, and I'll give you
one that was really difficult for me. The funny instance was in season one.
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You know, we're reading alog andthen it just says Nina Myers is
shot and left in a ditch,you know, and I'm like, oh
my god, they're gonna kill Nina. And it wasn't for two more episodes
that we find out that she hadn'tdied. But we laughed about it,
you know, in hindsight a lot. And then you know, then my
wife, Terry, she dies,and I felt so strongly that that was
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a mistake. I felt you can'texpect an audience to root for a character
to only have him fail and notbe able to save his wife. And
everybody looked at me and said,well, okay, and I and I
remember saying something as stupid as youknow, well, I want it,
I want it written down someone thatI disagree with this, and they laughed
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at me and said, okay,it's duly noted you disagree for still killing
her. And you know, andit's hard because you know, Leslie was
my friend, you know, andand and and such a good actor,
and she was so great to workwith. But for the show, they
were absolutely right. And in fact, I remember joecer Now and Bob getting
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an award from the Film Critics Associationor the Television Critics Association, sorry,
and the person giving them the awardwas a critic who said, for six
days I hated these guys for killingh Terry Bauer at the end of season
two, and then for the lastsix months I admired them for killing Terry
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at the end of season one,you know. And and they were right,
you know, And and that wasone of the big things that did
change kind of for you know,what was considered to be network television that
you were you were able to dosomething like that to a lead character.
It was it was a really bravechoice that they made. Uh. And
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again, as I said earlier,that I was a work in progress still,
and you know, I certainly wasn'talways right about what I felt was
right for the show, but Icertainly learned an incredible amount because in hindsight,
you know, they made the rightchoice. Yeah. And I think
for us fans too, watching thatfirst season, you know, watching the
relationship between yourself and Terry and Kimand you know, trying to make things
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work. It's about second chances.And then at the very end, you
know, Terry gets killed off andit's by Nina. You know, I
think that for us we were like, what, No, you know,
I think we were equally with you. No, that's wrong. But but
like you said, you have tokind of go back and sit with it
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for a bit for it to kindof well. And Joel, Joel had
a bunch of Joel was kind ofa big moment guy, right, He
would come up with the big momentslike that, and and it's it's hard
to explain because on some level it'salmost sop operatic and you instinctly, I
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don't know, but once you committo doing it as an actor and playing
the character, oh my god,it becomes the most fun you can ever
have. So so thanks, Joel. Yeah, So something that was a
little bit more rare for you whenyou were doing twenty four is that you
were a lead actor but doing yourown stunt work. You know, often
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there's a stunt double, you know, so you can prevent injuries. So
what was it like kind of beingthat rogue kind of actor doing your own
stuntwork and did you have any injury? Well, it was within reason.
I had great stunt doubles. Youknow. Throughout twenty four we push the
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limit I think of what we coulddo. I remember at one point I
was doing a scene and behind methese huge oil tanks were going to explode,
and they were on a timer basedon where I was running at the
point. But once they started toblow those tanks, I still had to
make a sharp left turn, andI remember thinking to myself, if I
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fall, I'm going to be inreal trouble. So don't you know,
just whatever you do, don't fall. I didn't, and I ran as
fast as I physically could, Andwhen the take was finished, there was
some the fabric on my jacket wasall singed. You know, the fire
came that close. Now, itwas perfectly safe, but you know,
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you still feel the heat of thoseexplosions and everything else. So I do
know that we kind of and wewere rehearse that stuff, and we had
an incredibly talented stunt coordinators and specialeffects people. But I think if you're
going to try and make something asbelievable as possible, you're going to take
it, you know, to theedge of that all the time. And
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so for me, it was itwas an exciting aspect of the show.
Is a challenging aspect of the show. I never had any injuries. Camera
operators did sometimes because they would onlythey would have their camera, but they
would only be able to see outof one on and so their depth perception
is off. I can it's notfunny, but there's a I can still
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see guy doing a handcout shot wherehe just walked into a piece of scaffolding
and he never dropped the camera.But I'm doing the scene. I'm also
watching his head start to believe andI'm like, this is how good should
we cut? And I guess ifhe's not going to cut, I'm not
going to cut. And we finishedthe shot, but I could I still
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remember watching the bump on his headgrow while we're doing the scene and so
that was the kind of commitment thatwe had from from our crew, which
was pretty exceptional. That's amazing.And yeah, I yeah, what do
you do right? Keep going?Okay, if he's tough enough to do
it, you better not blow it. Yeah, don't kidding, no kidding.
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So you you know, you've beenan actor for many years. You've
done lots of movies in twenty fourand a couple of other TV shows.
But in that our love of yoursis music, and I specifically country music.
And I know yesterday you released anew song from an album that is
coming out two Stepping in Time.Great song. Listen to it a couple
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of times, just absolutely love it. So you know, in that you
play guitar and you sing. Sowhat has that journey been like? You
know, from big actor both TV, big screen to now still I just
like playing, So you know,if someone's going to give me an opportunity
to play, I'll take it.They're similar in the sense that, you
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know, I was very excited withwith the writers and the other actors and
the crew to tell the story oftwenty four. That was my job as
an actor, and I was partof that large band to do that songwriting
and singing and performing is very similar. The song is the story that you
want to tell, and it's apersonal thing that would have happened to me
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that I'm going to share with anaudience and maybe something similar has happened to
them and we find a common bondand a sense of understanding. Anytime those
kinds of moments happen, I thinkthose are good, and then that brings
us closer together and better understanding ofeach other as people, and that's really
positive. So that's the similarity inthe context of kind of talking about twenty
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years of twenty four. I certainlygot to play more guitar than I got
to act when you were shooting twentyfour, because you know, you do
your master shot and you finish that, and then it's going to be another
hour and a half before they breakall of that equipment down and then reset
it for the over the shoulders shots, and then they got to break that
down and they go into coverage,and they go into singles and close ups
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and everything. So it's a reallylong process. And so in between all
of those setups, you know,I just go back to my trailer and
play guitar and start writing something andyou know, so, yeah, I've
got to play a lot of guitaron that show. That's awesome. So,
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you know, you have a bigfan base with twenty four head.
Did you notice any crossover of youknow, hey, we like him as
Jack Larn twenty four or an actor, and now we're going to like his
music as well. Have you foundthat crossover? Not particularly? Having said
that, you know, I havecertainly played in those shows over time that
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someone will yell out Jack Bauer,you know, and I'll say, well,
he's not here tonight, but thankyou very much, and you know,
so you know I'm and certainly,you know, certainly in the beginning,
I'm aware of the fact that thatwas a huge reason why people might
come see a show. And it'smy job and the other people in my
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band's job to put on a goodshow and hope they come back. And
so far as we're going, allright, that's awesome. So is there
a song that you just you loveplaying and love singing? Oh? Yeah,
all of it. You know again, what I hadn't anticipated about music
was how much I was going toenjoy playing live. And I do.
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I mean it very strongly that Ithink that if you can come away having
a shared experience that some of thethings that I'm writing about are things that
you're going through or have gone throughas well, and that we realize that
we've got more in common than wethought. That's a great night. And
you know, I and I've beenable to perform to audiences that have made
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me feel that way for ten yearsnow and so grateful for those people.
And it's been an amazing experience.That's incredible. And you know, and
kind of you tied that connection ofstorytelling, right, your storytelling as a
character in the movie or show you'replaying, but also in the music that
you're sharing. You know. Sowhen we talk about the story of Jack
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Bauer, you know, are youhappy where Jack Bauer ended up? No?
I mean, you know, andI think that there there was there
There was discussion about every aspect ofthis. You know, does he get
to come home and be happy andcomfortable? Now that doesn't really suit the
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show? Is he going to die? People didn't want to do that,
you know, so I think itwas just kind of mutually agreed upon that
we leave him in a place andmaybe one day we'll try and pull him
out of that. You know,but there was something, there was something
so kind of honorable about the character. And you know, and I've said
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more than more than once, youknow, on my best day, you
know, I'm not anywhere close toJack Bauer. I think he's a really
honorable, honorable, honorable guy.Uh. And and he's one of those
people. And we have them inour society to take on the work that
we don't want to do, andthey take on the responsibilities that we don't
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want to burden ourselves with. Andand those people sadly are confronted with insurmountable
odds. And and I take myhat off to the person that plays a
game that they know they're going tolose, you know. And Jack Bauer
was that guy. And it wassuch an interesting device about developing that character
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that you know, he's given fivetasks, UH to accomplish, and if
he's lucky, he's going to accomplishthree out of the five. That's that's
those aren't good odds, you know. That's that's and and and that's and
I don't think any of us aspeople strive to have a life like that.
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And yet this guy takes on thatlife knowing, uh that he's not
gonna he's not going to succeed acrossthe board and and and he still does
it. So there's there's that thatjust alone was kind of the root of
the character for me, and Iloved him for it. I thought he
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was awesome. Yeah, So whenyou were talking about the you know,
playing the character of you know,kind of saving the day, he was
always you know, trying to savethe president and you know when whatever the
crisis was. When I look atyour role in Designated Survivor, for example,
that show, you are the presidentand you have other people, you
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know, playing the role of JackBauer, but you know surrounding, how
was that clip for you? Right? Well, it would make me smile.
You know. We shot that inToronto, Canada, and we dealt
with a lot of weather. AndI do remember looking at the various people
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that were going to do all ofthe kind of Jack Bauer esque work on
that show, and I'd be allwarm in my oval office and I'd be,
Oh, you're going to go outsidedo that run? Now? Are
you have fun? So? AndI knew they'd be doing that for four
hours. So, you know,having done my time doing that, I
afforded myself a little chuckle. Maybeat their experience a couple of times.
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Yeah, no. And then theUS Canadians, our weather is unpredictable at
the best of times. Yeah,the Toronto areas. So yeah, that's
awesome. So kind of going backto Jack, is his story finished?
Well, no, because even ifit's in the imagination of the audience,
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you know, they're going to wonderwhere he's being held, what what kind
of you know, is he hashe escaped? What's he going to do?
I hope not. I hope thatthere's some resolution to it personally,
but we'll have to see, youknow. It's uh, it's it's something
that I've said, you know,I would I would never be opposed to
entertaining the idea, you know,but I'm not the writer and someone will
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have to present me with the script. But I also think, and I've
said this a number of times,that that I do believe that the idea
is bigger than any one person whowas in the show or worked on the
show. And I do believe thattwenty four has a concept will certainly be
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revisited again. Yeah, awesome.You know, a couple of times through
the SASA, you know, halfan hour, so You've talked about storytelling.
That's something that you've brought up,you know, a few times.
So what is it that excites youso much about storytelling? Every time I
say storytelling, Zach Casar has tohave a drink. Storytelling is it's what
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actors do. It's it's it's it'swhat you get into it for, you
know. And and whether they're makebelieve or whether they're true stories, they're
how we are understand each other.I can't underplay and understate the importance of
society and how we tell stories andhow those stories impact and inform our behavior.
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And so, you know, Chekhovwrote in The Seagull Treple Lov's opening
monologue, he writes, I watchedthese high pieces of the spred Art teach
us how to walk, drink,make love, and wear our clothes.
They teach us how to live,and they tell us what's cool and what's
not cool, and they tell uswhat's right and wrong. You know,
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I can go back to bamb And, you know, one of the first
movies I ever saw as a person, and I still walk around going you
know, if you don't have somethingnice to say, don't say nothing at
all. That was taught to meby a movie, right, So it
informed me as a young person whatwas right, what was wrong, how
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to be And that's to me,is what story telling is. It's it's
us as a society deciding what's importantable to us. And it's different in
different societies. Uh. You know, Asian culture is very different than North
American culture, is very different thanEuropean culture, very different than African culture.
And so each area, in eachgroup, each society, Uh,
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the storytelling is really what defines thatculture. And so it's incredibly important.
I think, yeah, no,absolutely I And you know that saying from
Bambi. I say that to mykids quite often. I don't say it
if it's not nice. You don'thave nice to say, don't say nothing
at all. That was Sumber hisfirst line, or who knew it would
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be so you know relevant? Yeah, awesome boy, if there was ever
a time that that was something thatpeople should use as a mantra. Yeah,
that's right. So you know.My last kind of question, and
I'm sure Ryan has some questions aswell for you, is you know,
what is the enduring impact for youfor playing for playing jack power? You
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know, it's on so many levelsit certainly, you know, was a
highlight of my career, and itallowed me to do work that I would
not have been allowed to do hadI not had the success of twenty four.
And so for that, I'm incrediblygrateful for the family of friends and
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co workers that will ask me therest of my life. I am grateful
for those moments, you know,And it was also a really exciting time
in my life. I was thirtythree years old when I started twenty four,
and I was, you know,older than that when I finished.
Those were my best years, youknow. And I got to do a
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show that I absolutely loved, andI got to do it with people that
I loved. I just I couldn'task for anything more, and that will
be kind of the really enduring legacyfor me of what it was like to
do that shit. And I learneda lot. When I started out as
an actor, there was this kindof idea that if you did want to,
you know, one movie every twoyears that was that was good and
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you wouldn't over overdo it and audienceswould still really appreciate your work. That's
bullshit, you know. If someonewants to make the Olympics, they train
every day I learned more as anactor working every day for ten years than
I ever could have in any othercircumstance. So it was one of the
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great educations that I've ever had,and that'll be part of its enduring legacy
for me. Absolutely. So Istarted by talking about, you know,
this being November sixth, being thetwentieth anniversary of when it was first air,
So you know, is that whatis the significance of today for you?
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Twenty years? What a drag?I didn't, you know, I
wish it was less time, goingto buy way too bad. But the
fact is I still run into peopletoday that really love twenty four and tell
me very funny stories. I'll neverforget. There was a couple that guy
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came up to me and said,you ruined my honeymoon, and I'm like,
I don't even know you. AndI got pretty defensive, like I
don't know you, I don't knowyour wife, I don't know what you
think. But it didn't happen,and he said, no, no,
no, no. You know,we watched the first twelve episodes of twenty
four. We flew from Los Angelesto Paris and we watched the first twelve
episodes on the plane, and theidea was we'd watched the last twelve on
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the way back, and they didn'twait. So the first day of their
honeymoon, they watched the next twelveepisodes of twenty four and I said,
wow, we really did ruin yourhoneymoon. I'm very sorry, but it
was such a kind of sweet story. And I run into people like that
all the time. So there there'sa huge number of people that I will
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never meet that I owe a debtof gratitude too that allowed me to do
the thing I love to do ina show that I love doing, and
their support of it was the reasonI got to do it. And so
you know, I will forever youknow, you know, before I go
to bed at night, I willalways just say thank you. Yeah,
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you know, I laugh at thisstory about the honeymoon when I when season
two came out, you know,I watched season one by myself, and
I said to, you know,a few people you got to watch this
show, like, don't be doneseason one got to watch it. And
so in season two, it wasI think about three weeks and I had
our son he's now nineteen, andthey said, oh, well, lucky
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for you. You can go hometoday. I'm like, well, good
because twenty four is on and Ican't. I can't miss it. And
so then they came back and said, oh, sorry, you have to
stay for another day. And Isaid, well, you're going to have
to put the TV back on becauseI can't miss this show. And so
I think it cost me about onehundred bucks and I got the TV all,
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you know, reinstalled, and youknow, twenty four gits on.
Everything's quiet in my phone rooms andit's my friend from Calgary and I'm like,
I'm really sorry it to bad time, Jack Bowers on, I'll call
you back. Well. Well,and first of all, thank you from
the bottom of my heart. Butthere were there were people out there,
you know, and and millions ofpeople out there that that treated the show
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like that, and you know,I am I am just so grateful for
that. And to all those peopleout there, thank you from the bottom
of my heart. You gave methe gift of lifetime. Absolutely, and
you know, I think I thinkI speak for everyone who's tuned in here
and we feel the same good againcommon ground, so good, good,
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awesome. Well, I'm going tosee if Ryan's ready to jump back on
here. I know he's the manwith the plans. Thank you so much.
I enjoyed this great deal. Bewell. And to your son's name
is Jason. No, my son'sname is Anakin. Actually Anakin. I
am very sorry. Please tell himI said hello. And thanks for letting
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you watch the show every hour fora week and telling congratulations on being so
young. That's right, happy anniversary. Yes, it's been a pleasure to
thank you, interview you and justtalk to you, just have a conversation.
It's been thank you very much.The pleasure has been mine. You
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know, Keifer, we thought wewas appropriate to have a family reunion,
seeing as it's the date November sixth, twenty years ago today, So we
have invited Terry. Oh my god, how are we have real names?
But Kim, you call me Kim. You can call me Kim. That's
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fine. I'm doing it good.Where are you, Leslie you start?
I'm in Langley. I'm near Vancouver. Keefer, Oh my gosh, there
you are. How are you.I'm good? How are you, sweetheart?
You look beautiful? I'm great,Thank you, I'm great. Where
are you? I am in mysecret layer, I mean I'm actually home.
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I'm in Toronto. Oh nice,So it's so nice to see you.
Thank you, and you what areyou doing in Langley, Virginia.
I'm directing here. I'm on agig here that has me here for another
couple of weeks. And that's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, it was
so nice to see you. Youtoo, were you blushing this morning?
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We were all singing your praises thismorning without you. Oh, thank you
very much and well and back atyou. So, you know, Rachel
and I were talking earlier and sheasked me which was my favorite season?
And I love In all fairness,I loved all of them, but there's
no you know, the first seasonis the first season, and it's when
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we kind of discovered everything for theshow, and I just, you know,
just brought back so many kind ofsweet memories. So y, yeah,
can you believe it's been twenty years? Come on, man, that's
like getting hit in the face witha shovel, you too, literally soft
shovel condition both of you. Isaw Alicia this morning and YouTube Keeper min
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well, I've been embalmbed. Whatboy, it's it's it's good to have
the family back together, we weresaying, Keeper, We were saying earlier,
if Alicia hadn't climbed out the window, none of us would be here
today. Well, yeah, juststay always that. I remember having conversations
with Howard Gordon right to the bitterend, which was, why doesn't anybody
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just do what I say? Peoplewould just do what I say, no
one would be in trouble, andwe would laugh about that a lot.
That's right. It's so funny tosee Alicia because you know, she was
so young when we started, Yeah, and it was amazing to watch,
uh, just watch her grow upover the years in doing the show and
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just watching her career blossom and allof this stuff. And it was just
but it was very funny because Ihave a dog who was just a couple
of years younger than Alisha, andso it was very interesting for me because
I felt, you know, Ihad a daughter at home, and then
when I went to work, Iactually felt very protective over Alicia like a
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father would and so and she wasjust so amazing. It's so nice to
see you again, So good tosee you. And it's so funny because
it's interesting. I always would becautious about, you know, going on
other shows after we my time ontwenty four was over because I don't all
my references would be the show,and I never wanted to come across that.
I was like bragging about being onthis like big show, but that
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was my only experience. And Ithink we kind of touched on it earlier
where when we were shooting twenty four, the hours and the time we spent
together was it was so much likea fish bowl. I would go home,
sleep, come back and it wouldbe you know this. They were
my family. They were they werewho I you know, spoke to on
a daily basis. I mean therewas there was no time for socializing or
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going to dinners. I mean itwas it was. It was a lot
to do with my time. Thosethose four years were so dedicated to to
to being on that set, andit was such a huge influence on my
career and and Key for two especially, Like I can't thank you enough because
every show after that, you know, the benchmark of being you know,
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the head guy and setting the tonefor a series the way you did stuck
with me. You know, sometimesit was blake and advice and sometimes it
was just me watching you, youknow, conduct yourself and be so prepared
and and so like yeah, andand really made the other actors accountable,
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you know. So it was likelater on it kind of trickled into all
my work and you know, howto how to be and how to be
professional and just you know, withoutit, I mean, it wouldn't be
the actor that I am. Imean it just you put such a stamp
on me, you know, professionally. From the bottom of my heart,
thank you when you were saying that, you know, you would go home
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and basically sleep and come straight backto work. And I don't know if
Leslie remembers this, but there areabout twelve of us that often didn't go
home, that's right. Yeah,I remember we had a bunch of we
had a bunch of Team stirs thatwere from Louisiana, and so they lived
in our base camp and they hadtheir trailers and they were a lot of
fun. And I remember more thanonce I was like, yeah, I
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don't need to go home, andI just hang out with them. And
we had a lot of great rodeoguys, didn't we like the transfer We're
all like the like I mean,legends in the rodeo world. So it
was like, you know, myonly regret is that I was too young.
I didn't get to have as muchfun or party with these guys the
way I wish I could have.I mean, maybe it was better off,
but I really you know, oh, they were good guys. They
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were good guys. We had somefun and you know, and that lasted
a couple of years and then weweren't allowed to do that anymore. But
for those first couple of years,it was like the wild West. And
we we worked hard, but wehad as much fun. We played pretty
hard too, And it was kindof the whole experience. And I'm sure
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I shouldn't be saying as much asI am, but the whole experience was
just so exciting and fresh and newand and and one thing that I will
never forget was very early on,our crew started to realize that we were
making a pretty cool and different show, and they took a kind of pride
in it that was so infectious.And you know, the responsibility for the
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success of that show really goes acrossthe board, from the team's just to
the producers, to the writers,to the actors, to the camera crews,
sound cruise stunt people, I meanjust across the board. Everybody had
a part to play and we justgot so lucky. I've certainly not had
an experience like it since, andit's it's and may never. It was
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something that was I think very specialto all of us. I have a
question from the fans, how canthe three Canadians become the ultimate American family.
Well, I've always said this,I don't believe art, and by
this I mean painting, music,film, television. I don't believe in
borders for art, you know,you know, but it is ironic.
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And then John Gassar, the directordirector of twenty four for certainly from season
two on, he's Canadian. RodneyCharters, the cinematographer, was Canadian.
We're slowly taking over America. Johnjust jumped in the wave. Help come
back, John, come back.Yes, that's amazing, John, I
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got it. John got involved withthis and then it just blew up.
It really, it's been, it'sbeen. We have we have eighteen countries
represented by the fans today. Ohgreat, Great Belgium, Japan, the
Netherlands, a little place called Canada, the US. Well, it's it's
it's. One of the other thingsthat were so unique about twenty four was
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its worldwide success and that that youdon't see from American television. So that's
that's pretty extraordinary and and that that'sa real credit to Droll and Bob for
the idea and for the writing.But you know, we we had we
also, you know, Fox Televisiondid a great job in kind of distributing
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the film worldwide and doing that anduh, you know, again, it
was just one of those circumstances youjust can't imagine how well it kind of
all played out. But but thefact that it did as well worldwide,
it was something also equally exciting.Well, we have enjoyed having you on
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today. We're so grateful that youchose to spend the day with us and
with the fans from all over theworld. Uh, and reunite with the
family. We heard the terms familyso much from cast and crew. The
word is so strong. But that'sit's been evidence through every conversation we've had
for the last eight months. Well. And it always feel that it's going
to come off as trite, youknow, because a lot of people say
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that about their experiences on film andtelevision. I can, you know,
and I've had amazing experiences throughout mycareer, but I I will, I
can absolutely and equivocally say that Ihave not had an experience the same as
twenty four. It was just unique, it was special, and there's you
know, there's nothing wrong with that. You know, it was just a
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really fortunate time. And again,so all the fans that are watching today,
you guys made this happen for us, and you can and you can
certainly hear in our voices how muchthis experience meant to us. And at
the end of the day, youguys gave it to us. So from
the bottom of my heart, thankyou. All out there just meant the
world to me. Thank you.Typical barrister
The following takes place between five pmand six pm Standard Eastern time. Once
(00:38):
I'm officially regional manager, my firstorder of business will be to demote Jim
Halpert, so I will need anew number. Two. My ideal choice
Jack Bauer, but he is unavailable, fictional and over qualified. Following takes
(01:02):
place between eight am and nine am. Following takes place between nine am and
ten am. Hello, this isChloe. Hey, this is Tonan.
I need directors to the Emmy Awards. Who is this How did you get
(01:23):
this number? Chloe? Listen tome. Jack, I'm gonna hijack subway
car. I need you to getin touch with the President. Tell him.
If I can't get access to theR three satellite coaches, millions of
people will die. Look, thereis no time for chit chat. I
also want a reservation in a goodItalian restaurant, West Hollywood. Ten thirty
eleven, Ish, Chloe, what'sgoing on? You have the phone?
Idiot? Yeah, idiot, Ithink she's you. I don't think so.
(01:48):
Keeper. My name is Jack Bowen. I'll get off this line all
right, Jack bang Win. Sorry, Jack, I'm patching you through the
President now, Keeper, Chloe,I need those chromatics. Now, who
is this? I'm Jack Bauer.Who the hell are you? I'm I'm
(02:08):
da duty, Chloe. Find outall you can about I made a duty.
Does anyone there know I made aduty? I meta duty? Wealthy
Saudi financier disappeared into Afghanistan in thelate nineties. Really no, Jack,
it's a joke name. You're beingset up, damn it. Okay,
well, but if you were likestuck in a trap in the woods and
(02:30):
like a cougar was trying to eatyou, would you date that same?
Why would that even have it?I have no idea forget that, because
maybe your dad is ahead of someelite counter terrorists unit. You only has
twenty four hours to I don't know. The point is, would you date?
I guess I knew it. Textiles, FID drugs works for Jack Bauer.
Would you please welcome our esteemed guestand star of everything you've ever enjoyed
(02:52):
in life, Keifer Sutherlands. Keief, thank you so much. Thank you
the anniversary today twenty years. Icannot it's mind boggling, you know,
I do. You kind of reallydon't realize what for me, at least
twenty four was such an integral partof my life and for a decade that
(03:15):
it just literally feels like we wereworking yesterday. So it's just amazing to
think that twenty years ago today,you know, the series started that yazing.
I mean, we loved having onthe podcast on the twenty Years and
twenty four podcast a couple of monthsago, and I enlisted my friend Rachel
Go three who's also Canadian. Sowe're all Canadians here. We're all Canadian,
(03:37):
and I'm going to introduce you toher, and she's going to walk
you through and talk to you andright ask some great questions. She's all
right, okay, great, Thankyou Rachel, Keifer, Keifer, Rachel,
Rachel. Very nice to meet you. Very nice to meet you.
Keifer. Thank you so much forjoining us today. This is a pretty
special event. Well, absolute pleasure. Thank you for having me. Yeah,
(03:59):
I know, my pleasure. Well, I thought i'd, you know,
start off the interview with a littlenostalgia for all of your fans,
saying that the following takes place betweenfive and six pm Eastern Standard time.
The following takes place between five pmand six pm Standard Eastern time. Amazing.
Well, November sixth is a reallyspecial day. You know, as
(04:19):
Ryan said, it marks twenty yearsof this show hitting the air day one
episode, one hour one Yeah,a lot of us feel that this really
changed the trajectory of TV, andyou know, you were a really big
part of that. Tell us like, how did you come into this role
as Jack Bauer? I was solucky, and in highsight, it almost
(04:46):
appears like I did everything to makesure it didn't happen. But Joel ser
Now had talked to Stephen Hopkins,who was directing the pilot, and between
the two of them, they decidedI would be right for the part,
and Stephen Hawkins and I were friends, and he contacted me. I remember
going to the first meeting and Ihad a car accident and so I didn't
(05:10):
make that meeting. I ended upmeeting later that day. Wasn't sure that
I wanted to do a television show. A bunch of things were in the
way, And at the very endof it, Susan Bymel, who I
work with, basically said, areyou crazy You're doing this job? And
she was right, and I acceptedthe part and it ended up being arguably
(05:32):
the most exciting thing that I've everdone. Professionally so and certainly changed my
life for the better, and sograteful that that everything kind of lined up
to let me do it. Wow, that's amazing. So when you read
the first script, what was yourwhat was your reaction when you had that
first read, Well, it was, you know, it was I had
(05:53):
not done a television show before,so it was very odd for me because
I was trying to imagine what episodetwo would be like and what episode three
might be like, and so Ididn't even really give it a very fair
read because I was kind of anticipatingall of the different potential directions that the
show could go. Some that Iwas very excited about, the some that
I wasn't so excited about. Inthe end, you know, obviously,
(06:16):
Joel and Bob and their team wrotetwo hundred and sixteen amazing episodes of twenty
four that I was privileged to bea part of, you know, But
having not done a television series before, there were so many questions that just
are simply unanswerable when you're reading apilot that I remember looking at everything takes
(06:39):
place in real time, which wasthe very first sentence of the pilot,
and I went, what the didthat mean and kind of brushed over it.
And it wasn't until episode three thatI kind of understood the real premise
of doing everything in real time.So you know, yeah, I was
a work in progress. That's okay, We're all the work in progress.
(07:03):
So you know, up until thispoint, you had only done really,
you know, movies, films.So what was it that made you say,
yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna gothe TV rode? Well, television
was changing, and you were verykind and said that twenty four was one
of the vehicles that kind of helptelevision change. And I agree with you,
(07:27):
but it certainly was changing earlier thanthat. And I can go all
the way back to Hill Street Blueswas a show that I absolutely loved.
It was a Stephen Botchko show.It was gritty in many circumstances, I
felt it was more realistic than alot of movies that I was watching.
And then you had Er, andEr was a game changer for me as
(07:47):
well, and even as a filmmaker, and I directed a few films.
At this point, I was tryingto figure out how Er managed to get
the look that they did on thebudget they did. I was trying to
understand, you know, how theywere approaching shooting their shows in that way.
(08:09):
So I was very aware that therewas high end television to do and
that there were shows that I wasenjoying more than a lot of movies that
I was seeing at the time,and I felt very strongly that twenty four
had the potential to do that.Of course, everything in the beginning stages
is a roll of the dice,and you know, I could never have
(08:33):
imagined back then that everything would gothe way it did and be as we
would be as fortunate as we were. You know, certain bands work and
certain bands don't. And for whateverreason, Joel, John Gassar, Bob
Howard Gordon, the cast which wasextraordinary, and the fact that everybody kind
(08:58):
of gelled and whatever we did,you know, mary Land, Carlos,
Raycohillsworth, just the list is huge, the depth of cast that we had.
But for whatever reason, it justall jelled. And you can try
and duplicate it and do that againa thousand times and it wouldn't work.
But for whatever reason, at thatmoment in time, that group of people,
(09:24):
which I was so grateful to bea part of, just jailed excellent.
Yeah, you know, when Ithink about twenty four and you know
the fact that it went so manyseasons on the same concept of it being
one day. You know, thatreally struck me as something that was an
incredible thing to achieve and still have. You know, you're leaving on a
high note, right, You're youknow, just such a great, great
(09:48):
concept. You know part of thatnine seasons, you know you filmed in
different locations. You know, wasthere one that you would say, yeah,
that was actually my favorite place tofilm? Well, yeah, it's
going to be London, England.Yes, that or seem Valley and nothing
against see me Valley, but Londonis London. London, England actually where
(10:11):
we shot season nine was maybe theonly location I've been on for over five
months that I was really bummed outto leave. Uh you know, and
and I and I know for afact, and I don't care what he
says. John Cassar felt the sameway, and uh so, yeah,
(10:31):
there was there was just something veryspecial. I mean, London was rocking
and rolling at that time. Uh, the world was in a pretty good
place and uh we we had wehad a blast there at that time.
That's awesome. So kind of tyinginto that would you then say your favorite
(10:52):
storyline would match the favorite film location, or was your favorite storyline maybe a
different one? No, my myfavorite storyline. I think. You know,
I'm gonna have to go with seasonone just because everything was so fresh.
I mean I had I had asaying, you know, when I
read the first script for every newseason, I would look at John Cassara
(11:16):
and I go, oh my god, how many bad days during one guy
have? Right? So there wassomething so fresh and exciting about season one,
and for me as an actor,it was all online territory. So
you know, there was a reallyinteresting moment for Jack Bauer at the end
of season two where just the pressureand the weight of that day, he
(11:37):
broke down and he started to cry. But all of those moments that that
that character kind of had in allthe other seasons, all of that was
kind of structured and built and designedin season one. So I'm going to
always have an affection you know forthe first one. Yeah, Yeah,
(12:00):
I think it was definitely. Yeah. It was one of those every new
episode was something new and real andraw. So yeah, I and we
were learning how to film it too. I mean for the first couple episodes,
all the driving shots we would actuallydo. There's a thing called a
process truck, and it tows thecar that you're filming on and you mount
(12:24):
cameras on the car itself, andit's really time consuming, and we shot
like that for the first few episodes, and I think someone I think it
might have even been Michael Klick,who was a first Ida at the time,
who became a very incredibly valuable producer. I think it was him who
said, we can't do this anymore, and so we started doing everything on
(12:46):
the process stage, and so wekind of perfected I think, in my
opinion, we would have some onego out in Los Angeles in film where
we would drive and then we wouldproject that and by you know, by
the end of season one, Ijust I couldn't tell the difference whether it
was real or not. And sowe were figuring out as the writers were
(13:09):
figuring out how to tell the story, we were figuring out how to film
it, we were figuring out howto act it. And that whole first
season was an amazing education and it'swhat brought us, I think, together,
very close because at the end ofthe day, the crew that we
had from season one ninety eight percentof that crew was with us at the
end of season eight, and that'ssomething I'm probably the most proud of with
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the show, is that you together. That is amazing. You know probably
you know, having those same peopleon, you know, episode after episode,
season after season, you know itcreated this you know, this feeling
of family, right, you knowyou're giving on to that next chapter.
And what did that mean to youjust to have that kind of a dedicated
(13:54):
crew over that many seasons, Well, it's it's hard to put into words,
you know. In a lot ofcredit, I'm gonna I'm gonna call
out Tina Kasar, John's wife.A lot of credit goes to her because
she had the best barbecues and wewould do them by, you know,
every month, and she would invitethe entire cast and crew, and everybody
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showed up. So there was thisvery familiar and family sense and atmosphere.
But also in the sense that whereI say it's hard to put into words,
a guy who was camera, aoperator who did almost all of the
handheld work. Guy and Jay werethe two operators and just extraordinary talents.
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I went to say goodbye to Guyat the very last shot of season eight
and I shook his hand and Imeant to say, it's been an absolute
honor, thank you for being mydance partner, and I couldn't finish the
sentence. And I'm not a I'mnot a real prior, but even now
I'm about to go, it waslike saying goodboute a brother. And I
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felt that way about everybody on thatcrew. You know, guy and I
just happened to work intimately together alot, but I felt very strongly about
that. And I do remember havingto kind of walk away for a minute
because I got very very emotional aboutthat moment because I was saying goodbye to
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people that I had seen every day, five days a week, nine to
ten months a year, twelve hoursa day, fourteen hours a day,
and I wasn't going to be ableto see them like that anymore. And
it was heartbreaking. So it's justhard to describe how much it meant to
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me that ten years. Wow.Yeah, And you know, I can
just imagine the impact that they stillhave on you all this time later,
just in how you're answering it andyou're saying, oh, I'm emotional,
Well, okay, and I'll giveyou a hint on my phone I have
a list of kind of the castand over the years, and you know,
it's been twenty years, and Idesperately don't want to get someone who's
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name wrong or something like that,And just going through the list the smile
on my face and people that assoon as we finish talking, I'm gonna
call and go, oh my god, i'n't spoken to you for a couple
of years. I guess you somuch. How are you? So it's
you know, so I'll thank Joelfor putting this whole thing together, just
for that alone again as it wasjust it was such a special thing.
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And you know, as an actor, for me at least, all you
want to do is work, youknow, and you're so grateful for the
opportunity because there's so many great actorsout there that don't have the same opportunity.
So to be able to do twohundred and something episodes of a show
that you absolutely love, oh mygod, you know, the gift of
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a lifetime. And I will alwaysfeel that way about it. Of all
that, and that is an incrediblegift to have that start. Well,
well, I'm the luckiest guy Iknow. That's awesome. So you know,
as you were going into it,and a few of the other actors
and actresses have kind of alluded tothis today. You know, reading each
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script not knowing what the next episodeheld for your character, right, you
know, where you're going to live, where you're going to die, what
was going to happen. You know, how did you process that week to
week over those you know, twohundred plus some episodes. Well, it
was really hard. I'll give youa funny instance, and I'll give you
one that was really difficult for me. The funny instance was in season one.
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You know, we're reading alog andthen it just says Nina Myers is
shot and left in a ditch,you know, and I'm like, oh
my god, they're gonna kill Nina. And it wasn't for two more episodes
that we find out that she hadn'tdied. But we laughed about it,
you know, in hindsight a lot. And then you know, then my
wife, Terry, she dies,and I felt so strongly that that was
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a mistake. I felt you can'texpect an audience to root for a character
to only have him fail and notbe able to save his wife. And
everybody looked at me and said,well, okay, and I and I
remember saying something as stupid as youknow, well, I want it,
I want it written down someone thatI disagree with this, and they laughed
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at me and said, okay,it's duly noted you disagree for still killing
her. And you know, andit's hard because you know, Leslie was
my friend, you know, andand and and such a good actor,
and she was so great to workwith. But for the show, they
were absolutely right. And in fact, I remember joecer Now and Bob getting
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an award from the Film Critics Associationor the Television Critics Association, sorry,
and the person giving them the awardwas a critic who said, for six
days I hated these guys for killingh Terry Bauer at the end of season
two, and then for the lastsix months I admired them for killing Terry
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at the end of season one,you know. And and they were right,
you know, And and that wasone of the big things that did
change kind of for you know,what was considered to be network television that
you were you were able to dosomething like that to a lead character.
It was it was a really bravechoice that they made. Uh. And
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again, as I said earlier,that I was a work in progress still,
and you know, I certainly wasn'talways right about what I felt was
right for the show, but Icertainly learned an incredible amount because in hindsight,
you know, they made the rightchoice. Yeah. And I think
for us fans too, watching thatfirst season, you know, watching the
relationship between yourself and Terry and Kimand you know, trying to make things
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work. It's about second chances.And then at the very end, you
know, Terry gets killed off andit's by Nina. You know, I
think that for us we were like, what, No, you know,
I think we were equally with you. No, that's wrong. But but
like you said, you have tokind of go back and sit with it
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for a bit for it to kindof well. And Joel, Joel had
a bunch of Joel was kind ofa big moment guy, right, He
would come up with the big momentslike that, and and it's it's hard
to explain because on some level it'salmost sop operatic and you instinctly, I
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don't know, but once you committo doing it as an actor and playing
the character, oh my god,it becomes the most fun you can ever
have. So so thanks, Joel. Yeah, So something that was a
little bit more rare for you whenyou were doing twenty four is that you
were a lead actor but doing yourown stunt work. You know, often
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there's a stunt double, you know, so you can prevent injuries. So
what was it like kind of beingthat rogue kind of actor doing your own
stuntwork and did you have any injury? Well, it was within reason.
I had great stunt doubles. Youknow. Throughout twenty four we push the
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limit I think of what we coulddo. I remember at one point I
was doing a scene and behind methese huge oil tanks were going to explode,
and they were on a timer basedon where I was running at the
point. But once they started toblow those tanks, I still had to
make a sharp left turn, andI remember thinking to myself, if I
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fall, I'm going to be inreal trouble. So don't you know,
just whatever you do, don't fall. I didn't, and I ran as
fast as I physically could, Andwhen the take was finished, there was
some the fabric on my jacket wasall singed. You know, the fire
came that close. Now, itwas perfectly safe, but you know,
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you still feel the heat of thoseexplosions and everything else. So I do
know that we kind of and wewere rehearse that stuff, and we had
an incredibly talented stunt coordinators and specialeffects people. But I think if you're
going to try and make something asbelievable as possible, you're going to take
it, you know, to theedge of that all the time. And
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so for me, it was itwas an exciting aspect of the show.
Is a challenging aspect of the show. I never had any injuries. Camera
operators did sometimes because they would onlythey would have their camera, but they
would only be able to see outof one on and so their depth perception
is off. I can it's notfunny, but there's a I can still
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see guy doing a handcout shot wherehe just walked into a piece of scaffolding
and he never dropped the camera.But I'm doing the scene. I'm also
watching his head start to believe andI'm like, this is how good should
we cut? And I guess ifhe's not going to cut, I'm not
going to cut. And we finishedthe shot, but I could I still
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remember watching the bump on his headgrow while we're doing the scene and so
that was the kind of commitment thatwe had from from our crew, which
was pretty exceptional. That's amazing.And yeah, I yeah, what do
you do right? Keep going?Okay, if he's tough enough to do
it, you better not blow it. Yeah, don't kidding, no kidding.
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So you you know, you've beenan actor for many years. You've
done lots of movies in twenty fourand a couple of other TV shows.
But in that our love of yoursis music, and I specifically country music.
And I know yesterday you released anew song from an album that is
coming out two Stepping in Time.Great song. Listen to it a couple
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of times, just absolutely love it. So you know, in that you
play guitar and you sing. Sowhat has that journey been like? You
know, from big actor both TV, big screen to now still I just
like playing, So you know,if someone's going to give me an opportunity
to play, I'll take it.They're similar in the sense that, you
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know, I was very excited withwith the writers and the other actors and
the crew to tell the story oftwenty four. That was my job as
an actor, and I was partof that large band to do that songwriting
and singing and performing is very similar. The song is the story that you
want to tell, and it's apersonal thing that would have happened to me
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that I'm going to share with anaudience and maybe something similar has happened to
them and we find a common bondand a sense of understanding. Anytime those
kinds of moments happen, I thinkthose are good, and then that brings
us closer together and better understanding ofeach other as people, and that's really
positive. So that's the similarity inthe context of kind of talking about twenty
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years of twenty four. I certainlygot to play more guitar than I got
to act when you were shooting twentyfour, because you know, you do
your master shot and you finish that, and then it's going to be another
hour and a half before they breakall of that equipment down and then reset
it for the over the shoulders shots, and then they got to break that
down and they go into coverage,and they go into singles and close ups
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and everything. So it's a reallylong process. And so in between all
of those setups, you know,I just go back to my trailer and
play guitar and start writing something andyou know, so, yeah, I've
got to play a lot of guitaron that show. That's awesome. So,
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you know, you have a bigfan base with twenty four head.
Did you notice any crossover of youknow, hey, we like him as
Jack Larn twenty four or an actor, and now we're going to like his
music as well. Have you foundthat crossover? Not particularly? Having said
that, you know, I havecertainly played in those shows over time that
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someone will yell out Jack Bauer,you know, and I'll say, well,
he's not here tonight, but thankyou very much, and you know,
so you know I'm and certainly,you know, certainly in the beginning,
I'm aware of the fact that thatwas a huge reason why people might
come see a show. And it'smy job and the other people in my
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band's job to put on a goodshow and hope they come back. And
so far as we're going, allright, that's awesome. So is there
a song that you just you loveplaying and love singing? Oh? Yeah,
all of it. You know again, what I hadn't anticipated about music
was how much I was going toenjoy playing live. And I do.
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I mean it very strongly that Ithink that if you can come away having
a shared experience that some of thethings that I'm writing about are things that
you're going through or have gone throughas well, and that we realize that
we've got more in common than wethought. That's a great night. And
you know, I and I've beenable to perform to audiences that have made
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me feel that way for ten yearsnow and so grateful for those people.
And it's been an amazing experience.That's incredible. And you know, and
kind of you tied that connection ofstorytelling, right, your storytelling as a
character in the movie or show you'replaying, but also in the music that
you're sharing. You know. Sowhen we talk about the story of Jack
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Bauer, you know, are youhappy where Jack Bauer ended up? No?
I mean, you know, andI think that there there was there
There was discussion about every aspect ofthis. You know, does he get
to come home and be happy andcomfortable? Now that doesn't really suit the
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show? Is he going to die? People didn't want to do that,
you know, so I think itwas just kind of mutually agreed upon that
we leave him in a place andmaybe one day we'll try and pull him
out of that. You know,but there was something, there was something
so kind of honorable about the character. And you know, and I've said
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more than more than once, youknow, on my best day, you
know, I'm not anywhere close toJack Bauer. I think he's a really
honorable, honorable, honorable guy.Uh. And and he's one of those
people. And we have them inour society to take on the work that
we don't want to do, andthey take on the responsibilities that we don't
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want to burden ourselves with. Andand those people sadly are confronted with insurmountable
odds. And and I take myhat off to the person that plays a
game that they know they're going tolose, you know. And Jack Bauer
was that guy. And it wassuch an interesting device about developing that character
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that you know, he's given fivetasks, UH to accomplish, and if
he's lucky, he's going to accomplishthree out of the five. That's that's
those aren't good odds, you know. That's that's and and and that's and
I don't think any of us aspeople strive to have a life like that.
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And yet this guy takes on thatlife knowing, uh that he's not
gonna he's not going to succeed acrossthe board and and and he still does
it. So there's there's that thatjust alone was kind of the root of
the character for me, and Iloved him for it. I thought he
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was awesome. Yeah, So whenyou were talking about the you know,
playing the character of you know,kind of saving the day, he was
always you know, trying to savethe president and you know when whatever the
crisis was. When I look atyour role in Designated Survivor, for example,
that show, you are the presidentand you have other people, you
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know, playing the role of JackBauer, but you know surrounding, how
was that clip for you? Right? Well, it would make me smile.
You know. We shot that inToronto, Canada, and we dealt
with a lot of weather. AndI do remember looking at the various people
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that were going to do all ofthe kind of Jack Bauer esque work on
that show, and I'd be allwarm in my oval office and I'd be,
Oh, you're going to go outsidedo that run? Now? Are
you have fun? So? AndI knew they'd be doing that for four
hours. So, you know,having done my time doing that, I
afforded myself a little chuckle. Maybeat their experience a couple of times.
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Yeah, no. And then theUS Canadians, our weather is unpredictable at
the best of times. Yeah,the Toronto areas. So yeah, that's
awesome. So kind of going backto Jack, is his story finished?
Well, no, because even ifit's in the imagination of the audience,
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you know, they're going to wonderwhere he's being held, what what kind
of you know, is he hashe escaped? What's he going to do?
I hope not. I hope thatthere's some resolution to it personally,
but we'll have to see, youknow. It's uh, it's it's something
that I've said, you know,I would I would never be opposed to
entertaining the idea, you know,but I'm not the writer and someone will
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have to present me with the script. But I also think, and I've
said this a number of times,that that I do believe that the idea
is bigger than any one person whowas in the show or worked on the
show. And I do believe thattwenty four has a concept will certainly be
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revisited again. Yeah, awesome.You know, a couple of times through
the SASA, you know, halfan hour, so You've talked about storytelling.
That's something that you've brought up,you know, a few times.
So what is it that excites youso much about storytelling? Every time I
say storytelling, Zach Casar has tohave a drink. Storytelling is it's what
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actors do. It's it's it's it'swhat you get into it for, you
know. And and whether they're makebelieve or whether they're true stories, they're
how we are understand each other.I can't underplay and understate the importance of
society and how we tell stories andhow those stories impact and inform our behavior.
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And so, you know, Chekhovwrote in The Seagull Treple Lov's opening
monologue, he writes, I watchedthese high pieces of the spred Art teach
us how to walk, drink,make love, and wear our clothes.
They teach us how to live,and they tell us what's cool and what's
not cool, and they tell uswhat's right and wrong. You know,
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I can go back to bamb And, you know, one of the first
movies I ever saw as a person, and I still walk around going you
know, if you don't have somethingnice to say, don't say nothing at
all. That was taught to meby a movie, right, So it
informed me as a young person whatwas right, what was wrong, how
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to be And that's to me,is what story telling is. It's it's
us as a society deciding what's importantable to us. And it's different in
different societies. Uh. You know, Asian culture is very different than North
American culture, is very different thanEuropean culture, very different than African culture.
And so each area, in eachgroup, each society, Uh,
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the storytelling is really what defines thatculture. And so it's incredibly important.
I think, yeah, no,absolutely I And you know that saying from
Bambi. I say that to mykids quite often. I don't say it
if it's not nice. You don'thave nice to say, don't say nothing
at all. That was Sumber hisfirst line, or who knew it would
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be so you know relevant? Yeah, awesome boy, if there was ever
a time that that was something thatpeople should use as a mantra. Yeah,
that's right. So you know.My last kind of question, and
I'm sure Ryan has some questions aswell for you, is you know,
what is the enduring impact for youfor playing for playing jack power? You
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know, it's on so many levelsit certainly, you know, was a
highlight of my career, and itallowed me to do work that I would
not have been allowed to do hadI not had the success of twenty four.
And so for that, I'm incrediblygrateful for the family of friends and
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co workers that will ask me therest of my life. I am grateful
for those moments, you know,And it was also a really exciting time
in my life. I was thirtythree years old when I started twenty four,
and I was, you know,older than that when I finished.
Those were my best years, youknow. And I got to do a
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show that I absolutely loved, andI got to do it with people that
I loved. I just I couldn'task for anything more, and that will
be kind of the really enduring legacyfor me of what it was like to
do that shit. And I learneda lot. When I started out as
an actor, there was this kindof idea that if you did want to,
you know, one movie every twoyears that was that was good and
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you wouldn't over overdo it and audienceswould still really appreciate your work. That's
bullshit, you know. If someonewants to make the Olympics, they train
every day I learned more as anactor working every day for ten years than
I ever could have in any othercircumstance. So it was one of the
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great educations that I've ever had,and that'll be part of its enduring legacy
for me. Absolutely. So Istarted by talking about, you know,
this being November sixth, being thetwentieth anniversary of when it was first air,
So you know, is that whatis the significance of today for you?
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Twenty years? What a drag?I didn't, you know, I
wish it was less time, goingto buy way too bad. But the
fact is I still run into peopletoday that really love twenty four and tell
me very funny stories. I'll neverforget. There was a couple that guy
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came up to me and said,you ruined my honeymoon, and I'm like,
I don't even know you. AndI got pretty defensive, like I
don't know you, I don't knowyour wife, I don't know what you
think. But it didn't happen,and he said, no, no,
no, no. You know,we watched the first twelve episodes of twenty
four. We flew from Los Angelesto Paris and we watched the first twelve
episodes on the plane, and theidea was we'd watched the last twelve on
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the way back, and they didn'twait. So the first day of their
honeymoon, they watched the next twelveepisodes of twenty four and I said,
wow, we really did ruin yourhoneymoon. I'm very sorry, but it
was such a kind of sweet story. And I run into people like that
all the time. So there there'sa huge number of people that I will
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never meet that I owe a debtof gratitude too that allowed me to do
the thing I love to do ina show that I love doing, and
their support of it was the reasonI got to do it. And so
you know, I will forever youknow, you know, before I go
to bed at night, I willalways just say thank you. Yeah,
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you know, I laugh at thisstory about the honeymoon when I when season
two came out, you know,I watched season one by myself, and
I said to, you know,a few people you got to watch this
show, like, don't be doneseason one got to watch it. And
so in season two, it wasI think about three weeks and I had
our son he's now nineteen, andthey said, oh, well, lucky
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for you. You can go hometoday. I'm like, well, good
because twenty four is on and Ican't. I can't miss it. And
so then they came back and said, oh, sorry, you have to
stay for another day. And Isaid, well, you're going to have
to put the TV back on becauseI can't miss this show. And so
I think it cost me about onehundred bucks and I got the TV all,
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you know, reinstalled, and youknow, twenty four gits on.
Everything's quiet in my phone rooms andit's my friend from Calgary and I'm like,
I'm really sorry it to bad time, Jack Bowers on, I'll call
you back. Well. Well,and first of all, thank you from
the bottom of my heart. Butthere were there were people out there,
you know, and and millions ofpeople out there that that treated the show
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like that, and you know,I am I am just so grateful for
that. And to all those peopleout there, thank you from the bottom
of my heart. You gave methe gift of lifetime. Absolutely, and
you know, I think I thinkI speak for everyone who's tuned in here
and we feel the same good againcommon ground, so good, good,
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awesome. Well, I'm going tosee if Ryan's ready to jump back on
here. I know he's the manwith the plans. Thank you so much.
I enjoyed this great deal. Bewell. And to your son's name
is Jason. No, my son'sname is Anakin. Actually Anakin. I
am very sorry. Please tell himI said hello. And thanks for letting
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you watch the show every hour fora week and telling congratulations on being so
young. That's right, happy anniversary. Yes, it's been a pleasure to
thank you, interview you and justtalk to you, just have a conversation.
It's been thank you very much.The pleasure has been mine. You
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know, Keifer, we thought wewas appropriate to have a family reunion,
seeing as it's the date November sixth, twenty years ago today, So we
have invited Terry. Oh my god, how are we have real names?
But Kim, you call me Kim. You can call me Kim. That's
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fine. I'm doing it good.Where are you, Leslie you start?
I'm in Langley. I'm near Vancouver. Keefer, Oh my gosh, there
you are. How are you.I'm good? How are you, sweetheart?
You look beautiful? I'm great,Thank you, I'm great. Where
are you? I am in mysecret layer, I mean I'm actually home.
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I'm in Toronto. Oh nice,So it's so nice to see you.
Thank you, and you what areyou doing in Langley, Virginia.
I'm directing here. I'm on agig here that has me here for another
couple of weeks. And that's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, it was
so nice to see you. Youtoo, were you blushing this morning?
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We were all singing your praises thismorning without you. Oh, thank you
very much and well and back atyou. So, you know, Rachel
and I were talking earlier and sheasked me which was my favorite season?
And I love In all fairness,I loved all of them, but there's
no you know, the first seasonis the first season, and it's when
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we kind of discovered everything for theshow, and I just, you know,
just brought back so many kind ofsweet memories. So y, yeah,
can you believe it's been twenty years? Come on, man, that's
like getting hit in the face witha shovel, you too, literally soft
shovel condition both of you. Isaw Alicia this morning and YouTube Keeper min
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well, I've been embalmbed. Whatboy, it's it's it's good to have
the family back together, we weresaying, Keeper, We were saying earlier,
if Alicia hadn't climbed out the window, none of us would be here
today. Well, yeah, juststay always that. I remember having conversations
with Howard Gordon right to the bitterend, which was, why doesn't anybody
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just do what I say? Peoplewould just do what I say, no
one would be in trouble, andwe would laugh about that a lot.
That's right. It's so funny tosee Alicia because you know, she was
so young when we started, Yeah, and it was amazing to watch,
uh, just watch her grow upover the years in doing the show and
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just watching her career blossom and allof this stuff. And it was just
but it was very funny because Ihave a dog who was just a couple
of years younger than Alisha, andso it was very interesting for me because
I felt, you know, Ihad a daughter at home, and then
when I went to work, Iactually felt very protective over Alicia like a
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father would and so and she wasjust so amazing. It's so nice to
see you again, So good tosee you. And it's so funny because
it's interesting. I always would becautious about, you know, going on
other shows after we my time ontwenty four was over because I don't all
my references would be the show,and I never wanted to come across that.
I was like bragging about being onthis like big show, but that
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was my only experience. And Ithink we kind of touched on it earlier
where when we were shooting twenty four, the hours and the time we spent
together was it was so much likea fish bowl. I would go home,
sleep, come back and it wouldbe you know this. They were
my family. They were they werewho I you know, spoke to on
a daily basis. I mean therewas there was no time for socializing or
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going to dinners. I mean itwas it was. It was a lot
to do with my time. Thosethose four years were so dedicated to to
to being on that set, andit was such a huge influence on my
career and and Key for two especially, Like I can't thank you enough because
every show after that, you know, the benchmark of being you know,
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the head guy and setting the tonefor a series the way you did stuck
with me. You know, sometimesit was blake and advice and sometimes it
was just me watching you, youknow, conduct yourself and be so prepared
and and so like yeah, andand really made the other actors accountable,
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you know. So it was likelater on it kind of trickled into all
my work and you know, howto how to be and how to be
professional and just you know, withoutit, I mean, it wouldn't be
the actor that I am. Imean it just you put such a stamp
on me, you know, professionally. From the bottom of my heart,
thank you when you were saying that, you know, you would go home
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and basically sleep and come straight backto work. And I don't know if
Leslie remembers this, but there areabout twelve of us that often didn't go
home, that's right. Yeah,I remember we had a bunch of we
had a bunch of Team stirs thatwere from Louisiana, and so they lived
in our base camp and they hadtheir trailers and they were a lot of
fun. And I remember more thanonce I was like, yeah, I
(45:57):
don't need to go home, andI just hang out with them. And
we had a lot of great rodeoguys, didn't we like the transfer We're
all like the like I mean,legends in the rodeo world. So it
was like, you know, myonly regret is that I was too young.
I didn't get to have as muchfun or party with these guys the
way I wish I could have.I mean, maybe it was better off,
but I really you know, oh, they were good guys. They
(46:21):
were good guys. We had somefun and you know, and that lasted
a couple of years and then weweren't allowed to do that anymore. But
for those first couple of years,it was like the wild West. And
we we worked hard, but wehad as much fun. We played pretty
hard too, And it was kindof the whole experience. And I'm sure
(46:45):
I shouldn't be saying as much asI am, but the whole experience was
just so exciting and fresh and newand and and one thing that I will
never forget was very early on,our crew started to realize that we were
making a pretty cool and different show, and they took a kind of pride
in it that was so infectious.And you know, the responsibility for the
(47:10):
success of that show really goes acrossthe board, from the team's just to
the producers, to the writers,to the actors, to the camera crews,
sound cruise stunt people, I meanjust across the board. Everybody had
a part to play and we justgot so lucky. I've certainly not had
an experience like it since, andit's it's and may never. It was
(47:34):
something that was I think very specialto all of us. I have a
question from the fans, how canthe three Canadians become the ultimate American family.
Well, I've always said this,I don't believe art, and by
this I mean painting, music,film, television. I don't believe in
borders for art, you know,you know, but it is ironic.
(47:57):
And then John Gassar, the directordirector of twenty four for certainly from season
two on, he's Canadian. RodneyCharters, the cinematographer, was Canadian.
We're slowly taking over America. Johnjust jumped in the wave. Help come
back, John, come back.Yes, that's amazing, John, I
(48:19):
got it. John got involved withthis and then it just blew up.
It really, it's been, it'sbeen. We have we have eighteen countries
represented by the fans today. Ohgreat, Great Belgium, Japan, the
Netherlands, a little place called Canada, the US. Well, it's it's
it's. One of the other thingsthat were so unique about twenty four was
(48:43):
its worldwide success and that that youdon't see from American television. So that's
that's pretty extraordinary and and that that'sa real credit to Droll and Bob for
the idea and for the writing.But you know, we we had we
also, you know, Fox Televisiondid a great job in kind of distributing
(49:07):
the film worldwide and doing that anduh, you know, again, it
was just one of those circumstances youjust can't imagine how well it kind of
all played out. But but thefact that it did as well worldwide,
it was something also equally exciting.Well, we have enjoyed having you on
(49:28):
today. We're so grateful that youchose to spend the day with us and
with the fans from all over theworld. Uh, and reunite with the
family. We heard the terms familyso much from cast and crew. The
word is so strong. But that'sit's been evidence through every conversation we've had
for the last eight months. Well. And it always feel that it's going
to come off as trite, youknow, because a lot of people say
(49:51):
that about their experiences on film andtelevision. I can, you know,
and I've had amazing experiences throughout mycareer, but I I will, I
can absolutely and equivocally say that Ihave not had an experience the same as
twenty four. It was just unique, it was special, and there's you
know, there's nothing wrong with that. You know, it was just a
(50:14):
really fortunate time. And again,so all the fans that are watching today,
you guys made this happen for us, and you can and you can
certainly hear in our voices how muchthis experience meant to us. And at
the end of the day, youguys gave it to us. So from
the bottom of my heart, thankyou. All out there just meant the
world to me. Thank you.Typical barrister
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