Ep. 54 Interviewing an Ex Satanic High Wizard - Zachary King

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
So welcome back to another episode of the six four
to three Double Plate and the Sunday Night Secret Society.
Got myself, Hank, got my brother Chef Kyle in the building.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
In the building. Ay, it's a beautiful day, another beautiful
day weather. It's cooling down a little bit, Wendy, and
I'm ready for a cool down about sorry.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Man that I don't want it to get too cold,
because it always gets too cold here, but I'm definitely
ready for a break from the heat. It's been a
rough winter, it's been a rough summer. It's been a
long summer. Eh. Feeling pretty good out there right now.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
But I think today, I think today we didn't get
any higher than seventies all day long.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, when we.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Got going on, didn't even break a sweat.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Dude, I kind of did. But I do. I do
more than just spray some some some bug spray. You know,
some of us actually have to actually lift stuff, and.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Am I work It might have in my defense, not always,
but I'm hiking up hills with I don't even know
how much he's backpacks way. The one, the one that
I used typically is a motorized one, so it's got
a motor on it. I don't got to pump that
bitch four gallons four gallons on.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh m hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm like my back wear a little back brace, you
know what I'm saying. It's getting used to it, man,
just getting used to it. It's gonna I might as
well start whinding now.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know. I'm never gonna let you off anything easy.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I wouldn't expect you to. That's the day. That's the
day that i'd be a little worried.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Not gonna lie for sure, for sure, But anyway, brother,
and so this it's the Sunday Night Secret Society that
we record on Friday, sometime released on Mondays. Who knows
when episodes go out. Everything's a train wrecker around here,
but we try our best, you know. So it's a Monday.

(02:18):
What's today? The twenty eighth folks probably be listening to
this as early as Tuesday to twenty ninth, and last Friday,
we were really privileged to have a great conversation with
the infamous slash famous however you want to look at him,
mister Zachary King, the famed ex Satanic high wizard turned

(02:44):
Catholic Christian who has apparently.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
For over.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Almost twenty years at least a hard fifteen going around
and spreading his story of how he grew up, what
he went through, and how his life's evolved over then,
I just thought it was a really amazing conversation we
got to have because we got to asking some stuff
that he normally doesn't get time to because he spends

(03:11):
most of his time just reiterating his story every time
I've heard him, which which is cool. But seeing as
me and you already pretty much know his story, I
thought it was pretty you know, pretty awesome to get
into some maybe less talked about areas of you know,
and of course what we thought was interesting, and it

(03:31):
was a really great conversation we had with him.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I think I really enjoyed it. And I think
one of the things that made it different, right is
that we didn't do the typical Zachary King interview, right,
So we I mean, we talked about kids, we talked
about Halloween, we talked about stuff that you're not going
to find on these other other platforms. So I would

(03:56):
say it was a job well done and what a guy, man,
what a guy.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Absolutely, and Kyle, what we're gonna do for our listeners
is in the show notes, we're going to have links
to at least one, possibly two other episodes that he's done.
I know for sure. I'm gonna try to get the
link for his interview with Ghosts at my third eye,

(04:20):
and uh, I'll dig around see if I can't find
another episode where he's done, a more traditional Zachary King
interview that explains his life story. So if any of
our listeners want the quote unquote prerequisite prerequisitible. Fuck, I'm man,
I'm retarded, dude. The prerequisite info that that ship, those

(04:45):
that information will be there. You can go check those
episodes out that way when you listen to ours. Maybe
you'll have a little more background knowledge of what we
go into, because it's not I mean we we we
kind of conducted the interview you under the assumptions that
all parties involved would already know his his spiel. No

(05:06):
disrespect intended, but you know. So, yeah, we're gonna leave
those links in the show notes as well as as
soon as you can get me. I don't know if
he got you the link to the fundraiser or not.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I will he actually did, and I will send that
right over.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
They've actually the raiser going, do you remember what he
said that fundraiser was for.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
No, let me see. Let me see it's a life
funder and I'm hoping in like two seconds that pulls
up and has a little bit of a description of
what it is. So this is it, says please not okay,
says hello everyone. All Saints Ministry is in need of

(05:58):
your financial help or rely entirely on the generosity of
others and couldn't do this important work without your help.
I'll brief this up. Our mission is to combat the
growth the growing trends of occultism online, in person, teach
you how to successfully close abortion clinics, and educate you
on how to fight spiritual warfare by explaining how the

(06:20):
devil works, what his tactics are, and how to stop
it and stop it and how to protect you and
your family from it. So I'm assuming something, Yeah, the donations,
I think it's to just keep the ministry up and going.
It relies on donations to what I'm observing here, So

(06:40):
you know, I would kind of say that if you
want to donate to the cause and help fight the
spiritual warfare going on, if anyone knows how Satan or
the devil works, I would say that he would be
a good candidate.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
So yeah, it's something that I at least I support
the idea of it. So yeah, we'll go ahead and
have that in the show notes.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
It'll actually true to my word, like I told him,
it'll be the first thing that the listeners will find
in the show notes will be the link for the fundraiser.
I don't mind doing that at all. He was a
really generous with his time. It's I mean, for us,
it's a relatively short podcast, but you know, I'm he

(07:29):
does have health conditions. You know, he's a he's not
a spring chicken anymore. You know, get a little long
in the tooth. So hour and a half on a
Friday evening, it's probably a good chunk of what time
he had available, and I'm just grateful that he's spent
it with idiots like us that, oh sorry, just you know,

(07:51):
trying to hats do some fanboy in and ask him,
you know, some serious questions because like I even you know,
it's not going to be a podcast where we talk
spiritual and religious things, and Hank doesn't push back on
popular narratives, and so you know me, I had to

(08:11):
I had to ask him about Catholicism, and you know,
there might be an opportunity in the future for another
episode where we do some you know, some answer or
ask some other questions that we didn't quite get to
this go round, or maybe we even might try to
do a little, you know, a little debate. You know,
I don't know if that's something the debate would be

(08:33):
up for, but you know, he did say he'd be
open to come back on.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
So we didn't burn the bridge, and that's always a
good thing. That's always and I'll tidbit to that. Super crazy.
So right after that interview, I, my Ace and kids
were not home yet, so I went and sat on

(08:57):
the couch and I whipped open my phone. I'm like,
oh shit, it's the World Series right now. So I
opened up on a special app that I have that
I use, Thank you, Hank, and I as soon as
I opened it, right boom, Yankees pitcher fucking pitches the
ball Grand Slam, Grand Slam. And I knew it was

(09:22):
a big deal. It was amazing. And I didn't get
the pitch before that. I don't know how many pitches
were all I saw the one pitch that was just
one pitch. Yep, and no, it wasn't even a replay.
I'm watching this live and I'm like, I don't know
a whole lot about baseball, but I know that was

(09:43):
a big deal.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
It was the bottom of the tenth inning, or it
might have been the knife, but I think it was
the tenth and the the Yankees loaded the bases. They
gave up a single and then walked a couple of
guys and brought up Freddie Freeman. Bases loaded, they bring

(10:05):
in left handed pitcher Nester Cortes, which normally there's nothing
wrong with that. You need one out. It was two
outs in the ninth inning, and nest Cortes has it
thrown a pitch in an MLB game, and at least
one to two months he's been hurt. He throws one

(10:28):
pitch of fastball ninety five miles an hour down the pipe,
and Freddy Freeman smoked it, no doubt or walk off
winner to win Game two of the World Series. Take
a two to zero lead, it's a race to four wins.
It's a seven game series. Whoever gets to four wins
first win. They're halfway home. Tonight starts a three round series.

(10:53):
The series is shifted to New York the next three nights.
Tonight in the next Tuesday win I mean, whenever the
listener's here this it'll probably be Tuesday night. Game three
have already happened. Yankees better win tonight Monday night. They
better win Game three. If they lose tonight, the Dodgers

(11:14):
might for game sweep. This baby might just do it.
Yankees are on thin ice right now. But here's the thing, Kyle,
is they've had, they've got. The Yankees have a left
handed pitcher, Tim Hill, who was ready to come in
the game at the same time that has already gotten
Otani and Freeman out multiple times so far in the series.

(11:39):
But Aaron Boone, the manager of the Yankees, brings in
a guy who hasn't thrown in a game and over
eight weeks and gives up a turd, serves a cookie
up there. And what you've seen was his story. Because
the same thing happened almost the exact same thing happened

(12:00):
like thirty six years ago in the nineteen eighty one
World Series, when Kirk Gibson, who was a hobbled first
baseman with a bum knee, hits a first inning Grand Slam,
like because I didn't know Freeman's ankle was actually feeling

(12:22):
good when he did that. But the storyline around around
Freddy Freeman going into the World Series was that he's
got a bum ankle. He can't run like he'll get
around the bases, but he's not flying. Well, he didn't
need to. When you hit a home run, you can walk.
You walk around the bases if you want to take

(12:44):
your time. It was really cool, man. It was Freddy
Freeman's first career walk off grand Slam. Like, it was
really cool, really cool man.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I didn't know that was his first and it happen
to be game work, well.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
If not his first walk off home run, his first
walk off grand slam.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, grand slam. And it just so happened game one
of the World Series.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, Well we'll see because you know, there's all that,
there's always the town to his.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Last out because they the Yankees were up three to
two at the time, and the Yankees got them down
to two outs in the bottom of the ninth with
a one run lead, and.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
No, that's wild, that's wild. And I'm curious to see
how this plays out because when it comes, as.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
We are speaking, Kyle, game three is underway.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's underway right now. Well, I'm curious because you know,
on the conspiratorial mindset, right when it comes to sports, right,
all sports are faked and riga and it's live. It
literally looks like it goes started.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
It did where four pitch got a four pitch walk
really yep.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
If it's if it's, if it's rigged, I would think
that this would go the distance it would be. It
would it would go to it would go to game seven,
right because the amount of money that they're able to
make off of all the merchandise, just off of everything.
I know, uh uh PbD the PbD podcast, Uh, Patrick

(14:25):
bed David. He's hoping, he's hoping it goes to the
at least game six or seven. I think he's got
some like sweepstakes going on where you can go sit
up in in the in the box. I'm guess I'm assuming.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah. I think a lot of money tied up into
it from every aspect media, the media rights, down to
vendors and not everything. Man, there's so much tied to this.
Of course, the people with the money involved wanted to
go seven. But man, I just don't think you can
people can say what they want to say, Man, I
think it's really hard to rig baseball.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I do. I agree with you know, we've we've we've
went over this before and I'm I'm really hoping that's
not the case. But all I know is at the
end of the day, the better team is going to
take this World Series. They're going to take the trophy.
And uh, you know, I'm a little biased. I I'm not
a I'm not a Dodgers fan. I can't claim to
be a Dodgers fan. I work Dodgers hats because I've
always liked Dodgers hats. I've always loved the l a

(15:21):
I just have. That's what I've grown up wearing. But
you know, being that I'm from Southern come Fournia, I
would like to see the I would like to see
the Dodgers take it home, kick them Yankee asses.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Eh, well, there you go. I can't. I can't rip
the Yankees simply because I'm a Southerner. So let's go
Yankees and seven Dodgers and seven. As long as it's
one of the seven games, I don't care. Really, I
just hope for good baseball. That's what I want to see.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
That's all you can hope for well, Kyle.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Brother, Let's not let keep our listeners wait for any
longer than we already have. Let's let them get into
this interview with mister zach King. Ladies and gentlemen, we
appreciate y'all, We love y'all. We hope you enjoyed this interview,
and we will see y'all next time.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Stay flying, be kind, Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
You're in for a treat tonight. Welcome back. We're gonna
be doing this mashup style. This will be a six
four to three double play Sunday Night, Secret Society Blend. Kyle,
my brother, it's been a long two weeks waiting for
this one. We're finally here and we've got none other
than the mister Zachary King. Mister Zach how are you

(16:52):
doing this evening?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Good sir, it's a good night. It's been a good day,
good week. Actually, I'm quite enjoying myself. I've still got
a touch of the flu, but I'm getting over. Yesterday
was my son's birthday, so it's my favorite son.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I only have one happy lated birthday.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
And thank you he turned eight years old. Son.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh wow, I remember when my baby girl funny enough.
My wife was just showing me a picture earlier this
evening of my daughter when she was eight years old,
and it's night and day to she's thirteen now, and
it's just it's insane how fast time flies and how
much they grow, literally right underneath your nose, and you

(17:42):
miss it all if you don't, if you don't pay attention.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
I'll be praying for you after the show. Because she's thirteen.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh man, Yeah, it's rough. Her little sister's ten right
behind her. I mean, we're going through it over here.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I asked k I ask Hank all the time, man,
because I have a nine year old that thinks she
is like sixteen or seventeen. When she talks me. She's
got that head wobble, and I'm just like, yeah, I
don't have words, and I'm just like, man, I only

(18:18):
got two girls. I wanted a boy, and I wanted
I wanted healthy children, of course, And yeah, I'm I
am blessed with two beautiful, two beautiful girls at nine
and a two year old. And my nine year old
is definitely priming me for for what is to come.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
And my nine year old is constantly asking for more
and more makeup, so you don't need makeup, you're nine
years old. But she's got makeup, and she wants her
hair done a certain way, and she wants nails, and
she wants to clothes but no person, no even adult woman,
should wear you know, and it's and she doesn't see

(19:03):
anything wrong with it. And I was like, there are
people out there that want to see you dressed like that.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
And that's one of the hardest things I've had to
do as a father is sit down with my daughters
and explain to them in so many words that sexual
predators exist. And there you were trying to feed into
their hand.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
So one of one of my my daughter wanted to
go over and play at the park by yourself when
he used to live in a different place. And I said,
you're not going over there by yourself. You know. She's like,
why not. You said, it's a safe neighborhood, said, it
is a safe neighborhood. Let me show your website. And
the website shows you where all the sexual predators are,
the ones that have been arrested, and they're surrounding my house. Yep,

(19:52):
you know you're not supposed to be within a thousand
feet of a school. My house was within a thousand
feet of that school, and these pedophiles are all around me. Yeah,
there's explain what a pedophile was. And then my oldest
daughter came out and was like, are you trying to
tell her about pedophiles? I said, yeah, but she's not

(20:13):
getting it. So my oldest daughter did it, and then
she got that, but she described it in a way
that I wouldn't have said. It's a little rough, a
little rougher description.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
And I think I think it's a little different when
you're getting information that's not from dad or mom, because
I've had issues similar with my own kids where if
I tell you this is what's going on, not hearing nothing.

(20:47):
If grandma or cousin or whomever tells her she's like, oh, yeah,
that makes sense, Like that's what I But that's what
I said. I said, quite literally, the exact same thing
coming from dad. Coming from dad, yeah, that's a no go.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
I was at the doctor's office with my dad and
I was about fifteen years old and a doctor told
me something that I should do and I was like, okay,
I'll start that, and my Dad's like, whoa on the phone,
I've been telling you this for ten years and the
doctor says it one time, and just like that, you're
going to do it. I was like, Dad, you graduated

(21:26):
in nineteen forty seven with a high school diploma. He
got a doctorate, you know, a medical doctorate six years ago,
and he went to school for twelve years. Who are
you going to listen to that you didn't even study
algebra in high school. That's mentally, that's where I was.

(21:52):
My dad graduated from high school in nineteen forty seven.
This guy got a medical degree six years ago and
he was in school for twelve yours. He's got to
be smarter than my dad. Even though my dad told
me the same thing. He told me.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Sure, I think it's something in our wiring as children
to naturally. It doesn't matter if it's the same words
or not. It came from the ultimate source of our authority.
So we're gonna disregard it, you know, ignored or rebel.

(22:27):
But as much as we can go on about the
war stories of child rearing, we we we've got to
talk about about you. That that's why we brought you here.
I've got I've got questions, You've got answers. But for
the for our listeners who haven't listened to any of

(22:48):
your interviews before without you know going, Well, you go
as deep as you want to go. But but you know,
what's a general overview of who mister Zachary King get
in why he's here to be interviewed?

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Well. I started practicing magic at age ten, verified that
it worked with three spells for money, getting five to
ten and one thousand dollars. I officially joined the coven
when I was twelve, signed my soul over to Satan
when I was thirteen, committed my first assistant abortion at fourteen,
left my first coven at eighteen, and joined my second coven,

(23:26):
World Church of Satan. When I was twenty one, I
became a high wizard. I totally did one hundred and
forty six assisted abortions out split one hundred and twenty churches.
And I left, oh and I made twelve hundred block stars.
And I left that when I was thirty three years old,
and I was kind of like living off the grid

(23:48):
for a year. Back on the grid after that, and
I had changed my name, changed a bunch of information,
and then ended up in Burlington, Vermont. And did you
want my story up until my salvation.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Oh, however much you feel like sharing.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
I got there, and when I started off in Florida,
I was doing magic pretty much out in the open.
When I moved to Oklahoma, it's the Bible belt. It's
the belt buckle of the Bible belt. So you have
to do magic in your own house, in your own bedroom,
with your door locks. Then I moved to Burlington, Vermont,

(24:31):
where you could do magic out in public. You could
dress like a magician out in public, not like Doug
Inning or something, but like an actual wicked witch or
a Satanist or a shaman, whatever you want to be. Druid,
you can dress like that on public. You know, no
judgment gets thrown your way. And eventually I was a

(24:53):
retail manager. I was working in a place called Piercing Bragoda,
and this woman came up to buy a pair of
goldenen bearings. I presumed her with the perfect bear. She
leaves for about three hours and comes back and I
close the deal and I'm handing the receipt and I said,
if you call this eight hundred number on the receipt
and take a survey, you might win a thousand dollars.

(25:16):
She goes, that's great. She reaches in her purse and says,
I've got something for you too, And I thought she's
going to pull out a Jack Chick vamphlet tell me
that I'm sitting, and he dropped on my knees and
begged for forgiveness, all the stuff I can't do because
I sold my soul to the devil when I was thirteen.
And instead she pulled out this whole cheap, bone colored
piece of tin. And that's weird. No one's ever pulled

(25:40):
out jewelry to give to me. And she says the
weirdest thing I've ever heard, said, the blessed Mother is
calling you into her army. You know, I grew a Baptist.
Mary gave birth to Jesus. It's the only story I
got about marry, no titles or anything like that. So
when she says blessed mother, I'm thinking, isis gya? I

(26:04):
don't know who the blessed mother is. And then she
said it's very powerful. Well, Protestants don't bless anything, so
she must represent some female deity culture. I'm not interested,
but you know whatever, and she starts talking on on on,
and I just got to go to my happy place,
just ignoring everything she's saying, and after a while, I'm thinking,

(26:25):
how do they all find me? There must be a
sign above my head that only crazy people can see,
and it says crazy come here, and an arrow pointing
down to me, because they all find me no matter
where I am. And I eventually had tune her back in, like,
why is she still here? She has the goal, I
have her money. This was one one for both of us.

(26:47):
Why is she still talking to me? And I hear
again that is very powerful. No, it's not. You know,
I used to be the high Wizard. There's between two
and five of us in the world, but that number
could be as low as one or as high as ten.
So out of seven billion people, I might have been
the only high wizard. That's a power trip and a half.

(27:07):
And you're trying to tell me that this blessed, miraculous
metal is powerful here whatever. So I'm gonna take it
in my hand and I'm either going to toss it
on my floor, slam it on my counar, tell her
is worthless. There's no power to this, no mystique, nothing.
I stick my hand out. She's giddy, she's all happy.
She drops in my hand, I clench my fist around

(27:27):
it all ready to tell her these things. Except when
I clench my fist around it, my store and my
mall completely disappeared. And I'm standing in this darkened void
and this woman, mary Anne Wickman tells me about the
magic spell I did last night, and that's of the Devil.
And I've helped split over one hundred churches and that's

(27:48):
of the devil. And I've helped commit over one hundred abortions,
and that's of the devil. And she mentions like eight
or nine other sins and everything ends with and that's
of the Devil. When I first got here, I was
going to hit her with an energy burst and knock
her back. But now that she's listed all this stuff, yeah,

(28:10):
I'm afraid of my attack, or she'll destroy me. I mean,
let's go back to when I was the high Wizard,
and I might have been the only one high wizard.
I didn't have the ability to give somebody a worthless
gold colored piece of tin, transport both of us to
a dark and void and know all their sins. Her
magic is stronger than mine, and I was the high wizard,

(28:33):
And she says again, the blessed Mother is calling you
into her army. And instantly, like a grace from God,
I knew that was the Mother of God, which is
a very strange revelation for a former Baptist have. We
would rather be shot in the face with a shotgun
than say Mother of God. And then when I realized
that Mary appeared and she smiled at me, and it

(28:57):
was a smile I knew I didn't deserve, was acutely
aware of one hundred and forty six assistant abortions. She
took me by the hand and she turned me around
divine mercy. Jesus was standing behind me. I didn't know
what divine mercy was. I know, I've just got these
rays of light shooting under me and over me and
around me and through me. And in that instant I

(29:18):
knew I did not sell my soul to the devil.
When I was thirteen, I knew that Jesus Christ was
my Lord and Savior. I knew all my magic, my occult,
my Satanism, and my new Age was false. And I
knew everything Catholic was truth. And the Blessed Mother told
me my job was to help her in abortion, and
I opened my hands back in my store back in

(29:39):
my mall, and here I am sitting in front of
you guys. That's a.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Even just the summarized version of that is it's still
amazing every time I hear it.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
I am like we were.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Like I said off before we started recording. I'm gonna
put some link to some other interviews that you've done
in our show notes for the listeners that have the
time that want to really hear your story in depth,
because it's worth hearing, and then maybe what we talk

(30:15):
about here will make a little more sense since you
know you're not going into every detail. Holly urge anybody
listening to this to go listen to any of his
interviews he's done before, because they're amazing. His story is
truly something that you most likely have never heard before.

(30:36):
So you've mentioned that you've made over twelve hundred rockstars entertainers.
Did your influence was it specifically catered to musical entertainment

(30:57):
or did it spread, you know, touch any other world.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
I worked with sports, sports entertainments. Music isn't just when
I say rock stars, I mean that includes everybody. So
it's R and B, rap music, opera, you know, I

(31:22):
think the only person I didn't do a deal for
was like, I don't think any folk singers came to me,
but they could have, because anybody could have gone to
one of those deals. It wasn't closed off, you know.
It wasn't like only these genres can participate. Anybody could participate,

(31:44):
now it.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
So if okay, So let's say that you had somebody
that wanted to get into rap, right, and they couldn't rap,
they didn't look the part. And I've heard you speak about,

(32:09):
you know, a certain boy band, right and you had
said that they were overweight, they couldn't sing, pretty much,
had no talents, right, So do they specifically ask you
for a certain talent because rapping, in my opinion, rapping

(32:31):
is a lot different than hitting a baseball or singing
opera will be different than being in a boy band.
Is it like like a contract in the sense that
I want to learn how to sing like a pop star.
Or they just naturally get this certain gift that allows

(32:51):
them not naturally obviously not naturally, but they inherit this
gift to do said things. How does that?

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Or I can't make an opera singer and I can't
make a country singer. I can't make you be something
that you're not, so to speak, but I can enhance
the abilities as you have. Okay, the thing with the

(33:22):
boy band was this guy came in. We were doing
a warehouse deal. So to set the stage for this,
I have an entourage with people. This was before tablets
and laptops and cell phones, so everything is on notebook
paper or print ounce So we know who's going to

(33:43):
be at the warehouse because their names are on a
list that they signed up to be here. And then
somebody there's got three or four different people with clipboards,
and when somebody says their name, they go down the
list on their clipboard and see if they have them.
Then I ask a group of people and some people

(34:03):
show up with their entire band, and some people show
up and it's just them and they're just kind of
milling around this giant warehouse, and I ask who wants
to be famous? Everybody wants to be famous. Everybody puts
their hands up, and then I say, what are you
willing to do to me famous? And that's where you

(34:24):
have people you know they're like, well, I do anything
to be famous, but nothing with children or animals. Well,
that's not who Satan wants Satan wants the person that's
willing to jump in the mud and be drugged through it.
So I keep going, who wants to be famous? Another
thirty people raise their hands. What are you willing to do?

(34:45):
You know? And some people will say it, they'll do anything.
You know when you say, what do you mean by anything? Well,
nothing with animals or children, but anything else. I just
keep going. You know, I've gone through thousands of people before,
and nobody is taking the bait. And this guy that
you know we were talking about before said that he

(35:08):
would do anything, and I was like, give me an
example of anything. He goes. If you put me in
a room with a naked three year old and a horse,
I'm having sex with at least one of them both.
If I think that's what you want, you're our boy.
I give him what's called a Tier two card. It
has the New York skyline on one side and a

(35:29):
phone number on the other. I say, you call the
number on that card. Do what they tell you to do.
Now you're going to be filmed and photographed doing it,
and it's going to be disgusting. But if you're willing
to do it, I'll see you on m TV. In
six months. This particular guy in question I saw on
v H one singing and dancing with a boy group.

(35:53):
When I saw him, he was slightly overweight, and he said,
by his own admission, he can't sing, he can't write
a song, you can't write music, you can't dance. And
we had a Doctor Seuss book had been making the
realms through this warehouse for years, and I had somebody
find it and bring it to me, and I said,

(36:15):
read this to me. So he started reading me a
Doctor Seuss book, and just before it rhymed, he closed
the book and said, I don't get it. So he
couldn't even make a Doctor Seuss book rhyme. And I thought,
you know, it's going to take a lot of work,
but it's not my job. I gave him the card.
Ninety days later he was on MTV singing in a

(36:37):
boy band and dancing. I was like, wow, he made
it ninety days later. He must have worked really hard,
but somebody else must have put a spell on him,
because there's no way with his natural talent, he wouldn't
have gone very far.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
So it seems that there was a heavy emphasis on
abortions and other other things dealing with children, and especially
in the world we live in today where let the
if the if you listen to the TV, it's a

(37:20):
god given right to well, they don't believe in God,
but you know it's their absolute right to be able
to have an abortion. When you know that's that's one
of the key fighting points in this country. Is somebody
who's been in the in the inner workings of this all,

(37:40):
can you explain maybe in a non political you know,
of course you it's going to be a non from
your side of you know what you've seen, why is
it so important that it's children and see the blood
of babies and you know why is why is that
the focal point? You know? Why is that the line

(38:04):
in the saying that you have to cross.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Because Satan likes to slap God in the face and
what better way to slap him in the face than
the murder of innocence. I mean, I don't mean to
make this political that Kamalace said in the debate that
there are no states that allow late term abortion, and
I don't know if she's lying or stupid, but there's

(38:32):
nine states in the United States that allow late term abortions.
Up to the ninth month, and if the baby is born,
they cover it with a blanket, shove it in a
room in the dark, and let it die. That's common
practice among planned paranoid.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Do you think that being that that we kind of
we kind of dive into contu spiratorial theories and what
have you. Some of the things that I've gathered is
that when you do if you if you have an abortion,

(39:14):
from what I've heard, and I don't know how, I
don't know how true this is, but you do not
get the fetus. They take the fetus.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Yeah, however, and abortions take place from like just a
few weeks old up to nine months. However, whatever age
the baby is, they keep it.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
And Okay, so with that being said, with the whole
planned parenthood posse, do you think that there are nefarious
things done with the fetuses afterwards?

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah? Yeah, there's a doll maker that makes a doll
skin that goes on the house outside. No one knows
that they're getting a real baby underneath adult skin. But
that's a common practice. I think that has already been revealed.
There's been another like that was like a schedule from

(40:16):
a couple of years ago. There's also the Chinese government,
they have restaurants to sell venuses in soup and the
Chinese men devour, they eat it, and they seem to
like it.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
That is wild because I don't know a whole lot
about Chinese culture. But I will tell you this, it's
very odd if you come across. I mean, it's not
super odd in the United States. I mean it kind
of is too. I've never been to China, so I
couldn't tell you. But like, if you're watching any type

(40:59):
of show, those that like travel channel shows, if you're
watching like Anthony Bourdaine, Rest in Peace Anthony Bourdain, and
he's over in China and these other countries, like, obesity
is really not a thing, right, And it almost makes
me think, because I've done acupuncture at one point to

(41:20):
quit smoking. It didn't work.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
You muted yourself there, Kyle, Well, he's undoing the tangle.
He just put himself in good.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
I might.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, my mic goes on and off. My apologies, but anyhow, Yeah,
so I know they do a lot of different herbal
remedies and what have you. But I'm wondering if there's
a collect few, as you said, that are eating fetuses
and babies and soups and if it is given them
some sort of I don't know, a power, the ability

(42:06):
to look extremely youthful at an old age, but I
wonder if there's something to that. And you know, I
would imagine that these these people that are eating these soups,
they have to know. It's got to be a special
menu item. You know, it's not like the corner Storm Market.
You think you're getting orange chicken and you're getting baby like.

(42:27):
They have to know what to order and what they're getting. Right.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
There was a picture that went around I think Facebook.
This would have been a few years ago, but I
also saw the picture in I think Stuff magazine and
it showed like six Chinese gentlemen sitting at a very
tall table on a dock. I mean you could see
the boats in the water right behind them, and there

(42:53):
was a restaurant to the left, and they're all eating
out of bulls and they're all eating feeda.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Soup that's terrible.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
It's horrible, and.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
They don't see anything wrong with it. The babies are dead,
they didn't kill them, they're just eating them. It's like
that's a person. You're eating a person.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
That it is cannibalism, But like to play I hate
saying this, but to play like Devil's advocate, I mean,
I feel like it's a little bit more. I think
it's wrong either way my personal opinion. Like I there's
certain things I like to eat, and I eat a
lot of weird, weird, weird, weird things, and there's certain

(43:41):
things that I'm not willing to eat. I'll eat pickled
pigs feet, I'll eat chicken feet, I'll eat cabasa, I'll
eat head, I'll eat brain, I'll try anything. I won't
touch dogs or cats. I don't think I have to
say this, but I will say this. I will never
eat human flesh at all. All And but but it's

(44:05):
one of those things like do they is God looking
down on them as them committing a sin when they
when they don't even realize it's it's a cultural thing, right,
Like they don't realize it's a bad thing. There's a
lot of cannibalistic tribes out there. And I don't want

(44:26):
to go too far in depth in this. This is
just a question that came to my mind. But I
feel like it's a lot different when you're dealing with
a lot of these Hollywood elites, you know you got
your Anthony Wayners, you got your John Podesta's, you got
your Hillary Clinton's, okay, and to me, that is just
straight demonic. They know what they're doing. You got Uma Abadein,

(44:51):
Marina Abramovic, like all these people that do these spirit
cookings that almost sometimes they they act like they're recreating
eating a body. They'll have this what looks like a
human body on a table and everyone's eating it. All
these elites are eating it, and maybe it's real, maybe

(45:12):
it's not. But I feel like there's a big difference
between what's going on in Hollywood and a cabal compared
to what could be going on in China. And I
guess my question is is do you think it's nefarious?
Do you think that they're eating this feet of soup
for an afarios? Do you think they think they're going
to gain something from this, like immortality or everlasting youth

(45:37):
as opposed to what they're doing over in Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
I think quite possibly, in China they're eating it because
it's available. Okay, you know they're hungry and this is
a way for them to get fed. And that doesn't
excuse it for me, But I think it's not as
nefarious as over here. You know, over here there's also

(46:02):
satanic bakers that will bake the fetuses into bread and cakes.
That that has also been learned through another source. I
put it. I put those things in my book, but
they've also come out in regular media as well. And
by regular media, I mean like a podcast like what
you have, but more famous, but not seeing an or

(46:26):
you know, something like that, not mainstream.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Okay, yeah, we'll have to We'll have to. We'll have
to look deeper into I guess that portion of it.
And at the end, when we're all finished up, I
definitely want to plug your book. I will be ordering
a copy after this. I'll tell you that right now.
I'm kind of ashamed. I honestly didn't know that you
had a book out, although I've heard you on on

(46:50):
a handful of podcasts. So forgive me.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Uh yeah, at the end of the interview, UH, send
me your your physical address, and we send them out
for you to priests and religious and people that host me.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Hank and I would both Hank can I live in
Hank is from Arkansas. I'm from southern cam I have
to say it, and yeah, that would be awesome, and
we would both greatly appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
I have a question about Arkansas. Absolutely, I live in Kansas. Okay,
how come you don't call it ar Kansas? And how
come we don't call it Kansas?

Speaker 5 (47:40):
Yeah, man, I hate it when people say ar Kansas,
Oh Kansas.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Technical answer of the word Arkansas goes back to oh,
I want to say the Shawnee Indians that were here, Uh,
that the French encountered, and it went through a bunch
of different spellings. At one time there was a Q

(48:12):
in Arkansas. I think that was more around the time
the French were heavily involved. But but uh, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I didn't know you were just you're just a hop
skipping away. Ain't too far away at all.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
My other question that goes almost hand in hand with that,
why do we claim Chevrolet is an American guard but
it has a French name.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
I don't know that is solid. I'm stumped. You got
me stumped.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Sure, I'm sure why man? They did studes on my
tail because I'm a shabby man like ie pay forwards
man like I will not drive a forward. That's crazy.
We're playing some Jedi my tricks on this, mister Kane.
Oh but and.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Did you guys know there's a black mass happening probably
right now. Really it's happening in Georgia, probably in Atlanta,
but I'm not sure it's happening in France at the
same time.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
What's the occasion?

Speaker 4 (49:32):
I don't know. Kamala was there yesterday. Maybe that's the occasion.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Oh my, are you that seems legit?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
So I know a so can either one of you,
I guess explain to me a black mass. I just
recently heard this, like within two to three weeks ago.
I heard about this, and clearly I wasn't paying enough
attention to what is a black mass?

Speaker 4 (50:05):
A mass? A black mass is a mockery of a
Catholic Mass, and they do things like for an altar,
we usually have a nice ornate table made of marble,
could be wood, and it has a like a first
class relic embedded in it, and then it's been also

(50:30):
consecrated by the bishop. Their altar is usually a nude prostitute.
Every time they say devil or Satan, they bang agong,
which in our church whenever we say the name of
Jesus at the consecration that we ring a bell, they

(50:52):
say rosaries backwards, we say them forward, but not in
the mass. It's usually before the mass. They do it
during the mass. And then they have a stolen consecrated
host that somebody steals it and then sells it to
them because you have to get your thirty pieces of
silver for Jesus, and they sell for fifteen hundred dollars

(51:17):
on the cheap side, fifteen thousand dollars of they're desperate,
the average price being about five thousand dollars, and that
will desecrate during the mass. It'll end up, it could
end up being used sexually. I was that one where
a woman shoved at their vagina and a guy stomped

(51:40):
on it, threw it around the room, and in the
end they threw it in a fire. That's that's wild.
Why would you pay five thousand dollars for that? And
they know if it's been consecrated or not?

Speaker 1 (52:00):
How how how do you? How do you determine the
validity of that?

Speaker 4 (52:07):
They know that it's consecrated because a consecrated host makes
them feel extreme sickness or hatred or anger. Remember that
God is one hundred percent love, So when they feel love,
they don't like it.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
That's a shame. That's a shame to be in that
state of mind, right and feeling love and not not
enjoying it, but not not liking it at all, feeling
some sort of discomfort.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
And the weird thing to me is that Satanic Temple
claims that they're atheists, yet they know when the host
is consecrated, right, it's not a blessing that we give it,
and now it's consecrated, it's through transubstantiation. The priest prays
over it. Jesus comes down into the priest and blesses

(53:13):
the host and makes it the body, blood, sullen, divinity
of our word, Jesus Christ. So when it's consecrated, it's Jesus,
and that's what they're feeling, and that's what they don't like,
you know, because how hard would it be to go
to a Catholic bookstore buy a box of one hundred

(53:35):
unconsecrated ohs oh, it's that ten bucks, maybe fifteen now
with Biden and a nice suborum, it'd be about four
hundred dollars under Biden it used to be three twenty five.
And you put the hosts in that take them to
the Satanic temple and say, hey, I know you guys
pay up to fifteen thousand dollars each. I've got a

(53:57):
hundred of them. It'll just cost you one hundred thousand dollars. Well,
that's just a thousand bucks each. You save almost one
and a half million dollars. What would spek you from
doing that is that they would take the lid off
and feel of them and know that they're not consecrated,

(54:17):
and then it'd be a bad day for you.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
I have to I have to ask. I have to
ask this because I kind of feel like we're politically,
we're definitely on the same page, okay, And and I
think this is definitely ties into the interview. I do believe,

(54:42):
you know, we know, we know there's good and evil, right,
we're having this conversation here, we're talking to the man here.
Do you think that even if you were I guess,
if you were to close your eyes and if you
were to set aside the different the different bills, the

(55:03):
different agendas that each candidate has, do you feel because
you were you were in this, I mean you were this,
this was you, you know, do you feel that there
is I don't know the correct term. I'm gonna use nefarious.
I've said this a couple of times. Do you think
that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are there's any type

(55:31):
of demonic things going on with them?

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Well, somebody asked Joe Biden recently about the hurricane that
hit on the East Coast and they asked him if
he spent extra time praying and fasting for those people,
and he said, I don't pray and I don't fast.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
And he has a person that works under him. I
think it's the Monkey box Zar, but it could be mistaken.
But he he's gay, not that there's anything wrong with that,
but he has he owns a gay Satanic gym and

(56:18):
it has apparently a lot of membership, and he's got
Satanic tattoos all over himself, wear satanic t shirts and
jewelry when he works at the White House. It's like,
why would you have a known Satanist working for you
if you're not okay?

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, I'm wondering if it was the guy that was
in charge of like the nuclear I forgot his name.
The dude looks like a complete freak show. I think
he got fired, but that doesn't surprise me. Yeah, the
bald headed white guy that wears lipstick and high heels
and address that's like in charge of I could be wrong,

(57:03):
it might not be nuclear stuff, but I feel like
it had something to do with nuclear stuff. And it's
like out of all people, really, really, you're telling me
that there's no like other agenda you got going on here.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
And then you've got the Democratic Party as the culture
of death all the way around. I mean, not only
do they believe in abortion for all nine months, even
if the baby's born alive though in the room and
let it die, but then at the every time Kamala

(57:43):
ends up at some venue, there's vehicles there doing abortions
in the vehicles if people want to get them.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Yeah, we all have judgment Day, and I have the
feeling that some people don't believe in that, or don't
believe they'll be judged, or believes God will be okay
with it. And there's a Bible verse that says that
God is not okay with it.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah, very much so.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
The verse igalationis that talks about the people that don't
inherit the Kingdom of God, and one of the people
it says people that commit sorcery, But the word sorcery
wasn't Now it means magic, but at that time, the
original word was far miakaa and far makaya was a
potion women would drink to induce an abortion.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
M do you think, Hank? I know, I know you
have something to I know you have something to ask,
but I have to ask one more thing. When you
mentioned far mikaa, how how far removed from the drink
that you were speak en of that would be consumed

(59:04):
before an abortion? Right, pharmacaya? And now we got you know,
we have pharmacies.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
We have.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
All that going on. And I actually listened to a
it was one of your shorter episodes. Well a lot
of them are are on the shorter end, short and sweet,
right to the point, and you had went over some
of your health issues. Do two part question? Two part

(59:35):
question is kind of a weird one for me to ask,
but I'm gonna ask it. Do you think that, given
your past, do you think that some of your health
issues have to do with that?

Speaker 4 (59:54):
They might? You know? And if that's the case, then
I offer everything up. And we believe that if you
offer things up, you offer it up to join Jesus
on the cross and then let the blessed mother use
that grace for whatever she wills. So if she knows
some people that need that grace for salvation, she'll give

(01:00:18):
it to them. So in theory, I could be bringing
a lot of souls into heaven by offering out my
suffering and so there's no wasted suffering, because there is
a lot of wasted suffering in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
For the record, I do have to say I think
you're doing incredible, incredible things, and I think it's amazing,
and yeah, you're you. I mean you've you've been You've
probably been told this before, but like your story is
absolutely incredible. So that's the that's the cap off that question.

(01:00:55):
Second question, and then I'm gonna let Hank take it away.
As far as the pharmaceutical industry goes, do you believe
that some of these drugs are more of more drugs

(01:01:15):
than actual medicine, that that are going to cars cause
more harmful effects than because the pharmaceutical industry. That also
ties into planned parenthood, Right, Hank Ca and I have
another kind of sub show that we haven't. We got

(01:01:37):
to get back up and going, but it's called holistic
Roots and a lot of the idea behind it is
you know, one of the episodes we talked about growing
a garden, how to start your own garden, right, But
the whole idea is like, what are things that we
can do without having to pop a pill or go

(01:01:59):
to the doc, or get a shot or get a job? Like,
what are your thoughts on that on the pharmaceutical industry
and how that relates to satanic ide ideology?

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
I guess I think that Big Pharma has more medicine
than they have people to give it to, and I
think that it's crazy what they charge for certain things.
My dad was on a pill that costs three thousand
dollars a month and he had to take it every

(01:02:37):
day with thirty days three grand a month, and there
was a subsidy program where if you qualified, they would
pay for it. Like who designed this program? So these
people are still getting their three grand a month from
however many patients they have, some of them because they're

(01:03:00):
insurance will pay for it, and some because this other
group will pay for it. So no matter what, they're
making three grand a month from all these patients. It's like,
why don't you just make it cheaper?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
And you said you said medicine. Now, and I think
of medicine, I'm thinking of something that I'm going to
take that's going to help alleviate whatever. Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
A lot of the medicines that are made are to
maintain your sickness, but not cure you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
I agree. I agree. My fiance is diabetic, and she
found out she was diabetic when she was eight years old,
and so she is insulin dependent, excuse me, for the
rest of her life. She doesn't have a pancreas, therefore
she does not have insulin coming in. And it's a
real scary thing and something that I heard yesterday and

(01:03:59):
I'm pretty sure Hank probably heard sometime this week too.
But it was a show that we were listening to
that actually involved ghost from my Third Eye, and there
was a gentleman on and he was talking about the
like the Diabetes Foundation. I forgot the exact name of
it and what it's called, but they started like in

(01:04:20):
the I want to say, the early forties or sixties
or something, and their goal was to essentially eliminate diabetes.
And they've had billions of dollars donated to the cause,
and we've gotten nowhere. Not only have we gotten nowhere
diabetes has it rises every single year, and that's the

(01:04:47):
pharmaceutical industry. The same thing with cancer, right. I am
a firm believer that there is a cure for cancer,
and I don't think it's in the form of a pill, radiation,
or chemotherapy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
People that come up with cures end of dead. Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Every time.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
There was a guy in Texas and a guy in
the well I think Canada, and both of them did
something phenomenal with cancer and then they were killed it.
It wasn't even hidden they were murdered.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
That goes to the gentleman that came up with a
like the hydrogen motor that can run off of water
and a couple battery cells, goes in to have a
cup of coffee and doesn't even make it back to
his car in the parking lot. That's not bugs me

(01:05:43):
so much anyhow. Thank you so much for answer that, Hank.
I'm gonna I'm gonna let you I've been black.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Good brother, mister King. The rock stars that you that
you made, where any of them were politicians in involved
in that at all?

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Not really, that's like two separate worlds.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Yeah, I guess they got their own evil entities.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
They they politicians like to go to Bohemian Grove and
they like to go to builderburg meetings.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
And if you're a billionaire and a move run a shaker,
you know, you can get stuff done. If you just
have enough money, you can get stuff done.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Oh, you mentioned sports, and my my podcast is is
a It started off real heavy as a as a
sports podcast. I'm a huge baseball fan. I love that
the World Series started tonight. You know, whenever we wrap
up our interview, I'll be catching up on what's happening

(01:06:52):
and watching the rest of it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
If the game is still one, I don't even know
who's playing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
The Dodgers and the Yankees. But how you've said, and
I know you don't like to divulge names, and I
can fully respect that, but you've said that, especially with
when it comes to like music, there these that there
are some names you're responsible for that the whole world

(01:07:20):
knows these names. It's the same true within the sports world.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
In the sports world when the the stuff that happens people,
the sports world is the biggest place where if you
have a natural talent for something, that's where Satan can
raise the bar for you. You know you can already dunkle basketball.

(01:07:51):
What if we made it so that you could almost
never miss? Well, what if you made it so that
you're perfect from the free throw line. What if we
made it so that you could add some flair to
your dunk and become famous because of that, you know,
and the people that my spells work for, if you

(01:08:14):
look at how much those people are worth now, some
of them are billionaires.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I think we can name. I think we could easily
name a few. H I got a yeah, I definitely
have a few in mind.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
You know. And the reason I don't divulge names is
because my attorney said, I have nothing to lose, so
to speak. I have a house and a big TV
and a family. But they could make me even poorer
than what I am. You know, I said the name.
You know, I did this stuff before there were cell phones.

(01:08:53):
By the time we had cell phones, they didn't have
cameras on them. Nobody's taking selfies of the drum up
of a hat, you know, no one's sending a text that,
you know, I'm now at Marabella's having breakfast you know,
with whoever, And then they take a picture of that
and the breakfast and posting it on Facebook. We didn't
have Facebook, and you know, and nobody was taking selfies.

(01:09:17):
So you know, if you look at pictures of me
back then, it was at a family reunion, you know,
it's like nobody brought out a camera. Just really know
he had a camera on them. You know, back then,
if you wanted to bring your camera, it was a polaroid.
It was gigantic.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
It's not like a small camera you can carry around
with you. It wasn't convenient, you know. So me saying
that somebody was somewhere, I don't have proof of it.
All they've got to do is say I wasn't there.
Now it's your word against theirs. You don't have any proof,
So you're a liar.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Sure, yeah, I don't think that you're a liar. I
definitely I believe what you are saying is true. It's
just it's it is. It is mind blowing when you
hear this type of stuff. And I can't get why
some of the listeners might be having to go back

(01:10:15):
and hit the rewind button a few times. But I mean,
you look at all the evil we have in this world.
It's coming from somewhere, someone, some one, and some persons
are granting this.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Well, my wife says that the more stuff that comes
out on the news, the more I sound legit. I mean,
I told people for years about black masses and people
who take this attitude. I've never heard of one, so
they're not real, you know. It's like, you can't be

(01:10:50):
that naive, such an acquisition to take. And then I
told I told people years ago, around two thousand and
eleven or twelve, I did a conference and I was
talking about Satanic conventions. And they're like, what's a Satanic convention?
I said, it's as it implies, it'd be like called

(01:11:11):
Satan Cohn and it's a bunch of Satanists that show
up and they have speakers, and they have exhibitions, and
they have vendors that sell things, and it's very big
and there's thousands of people there. And again people were like,
this guy called me up after that talk and he said,
why do you talk about Satanic inventions? I said, because

(01:11:34):
they're happening in secret right now. But Satan's getting bolder.
Eventually he's going to be in the public square, and
it's going to be a public thing, and it's going
to cost money to get in, it'll be tickets, it'll
be a very popular event. I said, if you started
praying now, it may not happen in the future. And

(01:11:54):
this guy tells me, I'm not going to waste my
time praying against something that's ever gonna happen. That's not real.
Satanic conventions are a real thing. You're just making stuff
up for your conference to make it sound more sensational.
And I said, if i'd have done it before the
conference so I could sensationalize my future dog and bring

(01:12:18):
more people in, that would make sense. But you're already there,
You've already paid the money to be there. Why am
I giving you something sensational now, you know? And he's like,
I'm just I'm I think you're a liar, and I'm
not gonna pray against it. Fast forward it was about
ten years and it was twenty twenty two and I

(01:12:43):
get this phone call and this guy calls me up,
but he's all exasperating, he's excited, and he goes, I
just I just heard that there's there's there's this satanic
conference coming to Arizona, and what are.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
We gonna do.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
I was like, I've heard that boy before, didn't you
call me like ten years ago because I might have it,
and you were asking me why I was talking about
Satanic conventions, and you told me that I was a
liar and that you were not going to pray against it,
because why would you waste your time praying for something

(01:13:18):
that's not going to happen. As a result, I was
the only one that prayed against it, and as you
can see, we're having Satan Khan in a few months.
He's like, what can we do to stop it? Nothing?
Now it's going God, let everybody's free will act for themselves.
You used your free will to not pray against it,

(01:13:41):
and they were using their free will to have it.
It's going to happen. If you'd have listened to me
ten years ago, maybe we could have stopped it. Now,
le's not stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
I mean it's in our schools now.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
We have after school Satan. I did a conference a
few years ago when I made a video about after
school Satan where the Satanic temple was going because they
had an after school program that was Protestant, and they
said that if the Christians can be there, and then

(01:14:18):
the Satanists can be there. Okay, there was even I
think it was an Arizona. This woman told me have
I heard about menstruation with Satan?

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
I was like no.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
She said, there's a website here and there's a program
where the Satanic Temple is gathering feminine hygiene products and
then blessing them and giving them to the YWCA. And
so we went to the website. My secretary goes and
she goes, what if you can't find it, said, then
no one will ever hear about it. She what have

(01:14:57):
you find it? I said, I'm making a podcast about it,
And sure enough we found a website. It showed across
next to a Baphomet statue. So that's the Young Women's
Christian Association with the Satanic Temple. And then they're giving
these girls cursed feminine hygiene products.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
That's bad, and so what n what would that accomplish?

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
Might make them more sexual promiscuous, or might make them
feel freer about getting an abortion?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Yes, man, you can imagine if they if they were
to do that and then put these feminine products into
said church female restrooms, public female school where if you

(01:16:01):
don't have a product, it's right there for you and
you just grab and do what you gotta do. Little
to know you had no idea it's been it's been
blessed on the wrong side of things. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Wickens claim that at Halloween they go through the grocery
stores and bless all the Halloween candy, and you know,
a blessing from a witch is a curse.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
So okay, question for you. Okay, we've done, Hank and I.
We've done a show on Christmas, and we've kind of
got into the pagan kind of the pagan backs of

(01:17:00):
some of these holidays that we still keep around, Christmas
being one of them, and also Halloween, because this is
a hard one. Right, even after Hank and I when
we did our Crampis, we went into Crampus and we
did the whole Christmas episode.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Hey, Crampis is the coolest story though.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
It is, it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
It's a crazy story. But then like after we're done
talking about it, I remember I don't remember what I
said or what you had said, Hank, but it's like,
all right, so are we gonna have a Christmas tree
in our house next year? Are we gonna have it
covered in gold and silver and shiny metal and tinsel?
And it's one of those really hard things to say no,

(01:17:45):
we're not gonna do that no more, I'm not or not.
But so like, are you gonna be going out or
is somebody gonna go be going out with your children
this Halloween to go and trick or treat and participate,

(01:18:07):
like ninety percent of the kids are. If no, great?
If yes, is there something you're doing such as praying
to expel the spell over the candy or over the

(01:18:32):
entire process of trick or treaty.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
We're checking our children to two different churches that are
doing trick or trunk So you wear a costume, but
nothing's scary. And these parents are teachers or whatever, have
candy in the trunk of their car and you go
by show them your costume and they give you more

(01:18:56):
candy than you would get if you went door to door.
Will be praying over the candy when we get it home.
But you know, there's a podcast I was on. It
was hosted by Father Chris Alar with the Fathers of
Mercy and the name of the show is I think

(01:19:17):
It's a Living Divide Mercy so that anybody listening to
this can find it on YouTube, and it has Father
Chris Alar telling the history of Halloween, and then I
come on and I speak for about twenty minutes. But
the history of Halloween, it's a Catholic holiday, so I

(01:19:38):
can't not celebrate the Catholic holiday. Now, satanists to take
in and over and said, you know, this is what
we believe Halloween is. You know, Jack Chick even went
so far as to say Halloween was Satan's birthday. It's like,
really prove that. But you know, the Satan and is

(01:20:00):
a liar, you know, and he says a lot of
false truths. You know, he'll combine truth with a lie
and present it as if it's one hundred percent truth.
Here's an example. John one one in the beginning was
the word, and the word was with God, and the
word was God. Everybody knows that verse the Jehovah's witness

(01:20:23):
Bible says, in the beginning was the word, and the
word was with God, and the word was a God.
That one little word a goes off the entire verse. Now,
according to the Jovah's witnesses, there's more than one God,
and one of them is a small g God. Wow,

(01:20:46):
and it just takes Satan just has to get in
there and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Just tweak one letter one thing and it messes up
the whole thing. Wow. Yeah, that's wild, Hank your muting, So.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Yeah, you're not wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Kyle was kind of smiling when you were represent John
one one because that's me and him have quite lengthy
discussions surround religion. And that's one of the key focal
points in almost every argument I bring up, is that

(01:21:30):
there's a lot to be understood in that verse of
John one one of not only about God, but ultimately
about Lucifer and how he's able to operate in the
manner that he does because he's created of the same

(01:21:50):
word that is, you know, mentioned in John one one,
Like he is of the words, so who better to
twist it than somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
Knows it right and forwards?

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
And because he's literally of it, like you know what
it's like, he's.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
There's a guy. Here's a guy that calls me from
Nevada and he believes that God the Father comes down
from heaven almost every day and gives him personal instruction.
And I said, I'm not saying that I don't believe you,
but I need some proof of that. Like what are

(01:22:30):
some of the stuff that he says? Okay, here's something
that he says God hates those that hate him. I said,
that's not biblical, that's not God. You're talking to Satan.
He was always God, God hates those that hate him.
I said, no, he doesn't. God loves everyone. God wants
the Satanists and the abortion doctors to go to Heaven,

(01:22:53):
you know, but they're fighting against it, you know. But
he doesn't hate them. He loves them, you know. And
he does not believe whatsoever that God that he's not
speaking to God. I mean, yeah, it was like God
doesn't hate and God doesn't even hate Satans.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
That's a powerful statement.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Mister, mister King, what would what would your response be
to somebody that pushes against Catholicism, because I think it
I think personally, I think it's interesting that you move
from the world of being a Satanic high wizard and

(01:23:43):
you land in Catholicism of all you know, branches of Christianity,
and I and I've said, and I've heard you say
a few things that it's hard for me to accept
any any validity. It's hard for me to say, like,

(01:24:07):
I'm in a weird spot. I wasn't raised Catholic. I
was raised non denominational Christian and I was raised in
the particular sect that was basically, if you're not us,
you're going to hell, especially the Catholics. And as I've
grown up, I've I fully believe that there are priests

(01:24:32):
that carry the abilities to perform exorcisms and deal with
possessions and stuff. And so I find I find myself
wrestling with Catholicism is evil, but there's a lot of

(01:24:52):
good that comes out of it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
Well, if Catholicism wasn't it is? If it was evil?
Why does Satanists pay fifteen thousand dollars for a piece
of bread from us when you could easily steal the
Baptist wonderbread and no one would care if you went in,

(01:25:16):
grabbed a handful of them and took off running. No
one would care. Oh, he must have been hungry. But
from our church, if they catch you trying to get
out the door with it, they'll tackle you, they'll hold
you down, they'll make you consume it or give it away,
you know, and then when they get out the door
with it, they sell it for big money. Why would

(01:25:39):
you sell something for big money? And how would you
be able to get that money if it's not a
consecrated host Now. The thing is, only fifteen percent of
Catholics believe in the True Presence. Practically none of the
Protestants believe in the True Presence. And Satan believes in
the True Presence. He knows that's God, and therefore his

(01:26:02):
Satanists know it too. The Black Mass in Atlanta is
supposed to have a consecrated host.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Is is that the Black Mass that was the one
that you were speaking of earlier? Correct that there was
one going on right now, And I believe you said
the other one was in France. Yeah, okay, yeah, See
that one's hard. I get where he's coming from on that,
and I get where you're coming from as well.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
I mean, absolutely mean zero disrespect at all. I've sat
down with a Catholic priest and have had a conversation
with him, and it's just so hard to leave biases
that you get raised in like. But to be fair,
I don't claim to be a member of the church
that I was raised in. I'm just a follower of

(01:26:57):
the teachings of Jesus Christ. I'm not necessarily one crayon
color of Christian. You know, We've got a town of
a thousand people that I was raised in but there's
literally ten different church buildings you can go to on
a Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
So I had a woman come to me. She came
to one of my book signings, and she said, I've
witnessed a bunch of your talks, a bunch of your conferences,
and a bunch of your interviews, and I can't figure
out why you chose Catholicism. And I said, well, looks
like we have a real Scooby Doo mystery on our hands.

(01:27:37):
Let's see if we can go through the clues and
find out if we end ourselves at the same place.
So this woman came up to me in a mall
and she told me, the Blessed Mother is calling me
into her army. Now, the Blessed Mother is a title
held in the Catholic Church. She pulled out a Blessed

(01:28:00):
Miraculous Medal, a devotion held in the Catholic Church. She
dropped it into my hands and everything disappeared, and Mary
showed up. Mary and apparitions usually happen in Catholic places.
She turns me around and Divine Mercy Jesus is standing

(01:28:21):
behind me, a devotion held by the Catholic Church. In
that moment, I realized that I had not sold my
soul to the devil. Jesus Christ was my Lord and savior.
All my Satanism, New Age magic and occultism is false
and everything Catholic is truth. If at this point I

(01:28:44):
don't choose Catholicism, that makes me the biggest idiot in
the room. And I said, is that the conclusion you get?
And she was like, yes, it is. She just when
you explain it like that, it makes perfect sense. I said, Okay,
then my next question to you is why are you

(01:29:05):
still Baptist? And she's currently not Baptist anymore. Back then
she was Baptist, now she's Catholic.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
One question I got is working I find one of
them pieces of metal, I'll tell you what. I hate
to be that person, but like it's almost it's almost
like I'm not gonna It's almost like I can't move
off of I feel so afraid. I don't know, man,
whether it's being afraid of moving on to something that

(01:29:40):
I mean, or it's just I'm stubborn and what I
was raised in. But it's like, unless I could be
I need to be teleported to the Twilight Zone like
you were before. I sit there and can even think
about putting Mary on the same level as as the creator,
you know, like we.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
Don't worship Mary.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Well no, but but but there's a there's a ton
of reverence thrown her away. And I was, just like
you said, I'm southern, redneck Christian Mary. Mary had Jesus
in a major and and Joseph was really confused and
mad for a while, but somehow he got over it.

(01:30:23):
But like there's nothing spec like you know, in my
in in our in my world that I was growing
up in, there was nothing Mary was nothing worth of
reverence or anything like that. Like there was she She
could do nothing for me. That's what I've always taught

(01:30:45):
is what Mary can't do anything for me because she
just had Jesus. That's all that she was good for.

Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
All she did was carried God in her stomach. Ye. Yeah, no,
I know what you're saying. Think about what you're saying. No,
I've had that for nine months.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Yeah sure, No, I mean I get it, But like
I've never had anybody from the non Catholic world explain
it in a way. I don't know, I've never really
heard it explained an a way period. Like I mean,
I'm not going to sit here and claim to be

(01:31:25):
just well versed on the intricacies of Catholicism. You know,
I just it's always it's a it's almost like the
Russian boogeyman. You know what what Catholicism was made out
to be, at least for me in my neck of
the Christian woods growing.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
Up, like well, what what church did you belong to?

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
The Church of Christ? And what right I want to say?

Speaker 6 (01:31:55):
The Church of Christ as it's known in America today
started in the sixteen hundred's as an offshoot of the
Presbyterian Church because there was an argument about whether instrumental
music is permissible in worship or not, and the people

(01:32:15):
that argued against instrumental worship broke apart created what is
now we would know today is a Church of Christ.
It's a very solemn service. There's no clapping, no hallelujah,
is no exclamations of joy. There is most no, there's
not We don't even get down like the Pentecostals. Like

(01:32:36):
if you were to walk in and somebody is jumping
from pew to pew, somebody's about to get slapped, like
we're gonna need you, We're gonna need you to calm
down or leave immediately, like we.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
It's really weird, man, It's a really weird branch of
Christianity because, like I said earlier, they it's basically like
in what I got from it from twenty three years
of being raised in it was if you're not Church
or Christ, you're going.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
To Hell, all right? And what man started that church?

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
I don't know, but I know it was a man
because it was an an argument within the Presbyterian Church
in Colonial America.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
Well, my church is six years away from celebrating his
two thousand year anniversary, and our church was started by
Jesus Christ. Why would you not join the church started
by God.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
We'll see if you ask any member of well at
least any member that I've ever encountered, when the Church
of Christ was started, they're going to give you. Well,
when Jesus was talking to Peter and said, and upon
this rock, I will build my church, and I'm like, no,
that's when.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
The church was started at Not that the Catholic Church.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
I mean I've heard it argumented that or argued that
it was the Catholic Church. But Jesus wasn't a Catholic.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
Even Google tells you. It was Jesus Christ. It started
the Catholic Church.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
To be fair, to be fair, Google's a little.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
Usually to the left, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm swatting away. I have flies in
my house. Figure that I work in pest control and
I have pest in my house.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
That's God, send a humor.

Speaker 7 (01:34:30):
Listen, listen, honestly, honestly, until this particular conversation came about,
not an issue at all, not an issue until this happened.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
I've been attacked like five times by flies. That's six times.
I'm just gonna go seven just to get the six
out of the way. Seven. But yeah, really weird.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Really weird.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
But that's you know, I you know, for me at least,
just a real real quick I don't want to make
this out all about me, But I was a I
was a heroin autic for a very long time. I
was an opiate junkie for a very long time. And
I got my shit together. What eleven years ago, about

(01:35:26):
six months clean found out we were expecting a daughter.
I had to move from California to Maine with my
fiance with my now fiance should be wife. I'm not
gonna lie should be wife haven't made that happen yet,
shame on me. But we were together like sixty I
think three months. We were together three months and then
I told her, listen, I'm moving to Maine. I can't

(01:35:48):
do this no more. I don't want to ruin my life.
And she decided to come with me again. We moved,
ended up finding out we're having a baby. Got clean,
we got clean before the day we left Californ four
two MANI and we got cleaned and moved back down.
Everything was going good, and then it was the whole

(01:36:09):
pandemic that had happened. Sold my house, in my house.
It was a little mobile home, it was my home,
my house, my home, my house, sold it and had
I think I sold it for twenty two thousand dollars,
which to me was a lot of money, and moved
back down to southern California. The pandemic was going on,

(01:36:33):
got on unemployment. I had the most money I've ever
had in my life, which is not a lot. I
mean it was a lot. It was a lot, but
to some it wasn't very much money. And I had
so again, so much money. I was ordering off of Amazon,
all the things, all the cooking supplies, everything I wanted

(01:36:55):
I had, and I was so miserable. I was so miserable.
I was so depressed. I stayed in a little room
all day long while I wasn't working for about a year.
I had issues with the people that I was living with.

(01:37:18):
Instead of going pee, I would pee in water bottles
because I didn't want to. I was that depressed. It
was bad. It was pretty bad. And I took a
vacation up to northern California and I got my first Bible. Now,
I actually got my first Bible when I was in
the military going through boot camp. I got a little, tiny, small,

(01:37:40):
little tiny Bible camouflage. Super cool, super cool little bible.
Could barely read it, but it was a cool Bible.
But I got my first Bible, and I started looking
into the Bible, and my life changed. And now I

(01:38:00):
don't even know what I identify as, to be quite
honest with you, mister King, because before I went to
boot camp, which was back in two thousand and nine,
my my father gave me a a Saint Christopher. Not
that I ended up losing that one, but it was
a Saint Christopher medallion, and it's something that I've always

(01:38:24):
held on to a lot of my family are Christian,
but they all have which is really weird. They all
have Saint Christopher medallions on their neck. And I could
be wrong, but the Saints relate more to Catholicism, right,
Saint Michael. Right, So now I have Saint Michael and

(01:38:45):
I have Saint Christopher. So like, hearing this conversation between
you and Hank is quite interesting to me because I
don't necessarily consider myself a Christian. I do, I don't
consider myself a Catholic. I just have a belief in

(01:39:07):
in my Lord Jesus Christ, you know. And I'm still
trying to figure the whole thing out, right, and I'm
also die and I also I also would love to
have you back on because I would like your opinion
on the Lost Books of the Bible, the Ethiopian Bible,
the eighty eight books that are not in the Bible,
because that's a whole nother rabbit hole right there for me.

(01:39:30):
But I guess the point, I wasn't really trying to
make a point. I was kind of just trying to
show you where I stand on this because I'm not
saying a whole lot about it. Because Hank grew up
the way Hank grew up. Right, You went through what
you went through, and then you went to Catholicism. And
I'm sitting here like I kind of feel like I'm Christian.

(01:39:54):
But then these never leave These never leave my This
never leaves my neck. I can leave my house without
my cell phone. I'm good if for some reason, my
Saint Christopher or my Saint Michael are not on my neck.
I don't this is weird, but I don't feel right.

(01:40:15):
You know when you get to work and you're like, oh,
I don't have my wallet, and it just throws off
your day. Even if you have Apple Pay. You have
Apple Pay, You're good, dude, you still got your money
right here. But for me, if I don't have this
necklace on, I'm not saying I'm gonna have a bad day,
but I just something just doesn't feel right. So I

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appreciate this conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
So when you guys give me your addresses, will mail
you each your book and I'll also mail you a
Saint Benedict medal which has an exorcism prayer on it.
And they've been blessed by an exorcist with the prayer
and Reraculus medal, which was the metal I was given

(01:41:01):
that transported me to wherever I was. But I'll give
you both one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
That's amazing. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Uh. You know it's funny, Kyle that you talk about
having Saint Christopher. Saint Michael. Isn't Saint Christopher the patron
saint of travelers?

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
I believe so the protector?

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Or Saint Christopher the protector?

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
I don't know. I know a bunch of soldiers that
when they went into battle, their their sergeants or their
commander gave them Saint Michael's stuff and told them to
put their faith in Saint Michael. You would keep them safe.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
So thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
I have both Saint Michael, and I have both Saint Christopher,
and both of them say protect us. So one says
Saint Michael, protect us, Saint Christopher on top, and then
at the bottom says protect us. And it's been doing
a pretty damn good job.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
Well, I was I thinking, I'm pretty sure it was
Saint Christopher. I was giving one once upon a time,
and I was told because I used to ride motorcycles
almost every day when when the weather allowed, and lord knows,
I never put a helmet on, so I guess they
felt like I could use a little extra protection on
the on the bike. And I was told that I

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had to go have it blessed by a priest before
basically it would do anything. And that's when I ended
up having a conversation with the with the Catholic priests.
I went to the to the church building up the
road and he was kind enough to sit there and
talk to me. And it's always been something that's interested me,

(01:42:53):
and I try not to be closed minded about it
because you talk about Catholic with such conviction. It's almost
like I come from a place of jealousy, Like, man,
how come he gets to have all the cool Christian
stuff go down? And I'm just I can't even clap
in church, like I'm just supposed to sit here and sing.

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
I wonder the luntur either. Well no, but like there's you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
I promise you've never been to a more boring service
in your life than going to a Church of Christ.
You'll get out of there in forty five minutes flat,
but you're gonna be asleep the whole time.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
Well, we have has different types of Catholicism. We have Novasorto,
which is the speaks the local vernacular. So if you're
in Germany, it'll be a German Mass. If you're in France,
it'll be a French Mass. If you're here in American
it's an English Mass, unless you're at a Spanish speaking service,

(01:43:57):
and then it's a Spanish Mass. Then there's Traditional Latin
right TLM, and that where everything is in Latin except
the homily. You'll be in English, so everybody can understand it,
and that is to me more reverence, more holy. Then
there's a Ukrainian Byzantine, and there's I can't name them all,

(01:44:19):
but there's twenty three branches of Catholicism.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
I did not know that, I mean, but it kind
of I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
That makes sense. And like at the church I like
to go to, we have a lot of Gregorian chant
for our music. So it's music. The songs are in
Latin and we have a choir that does it and
it's beautiful. It makes you feel like if you stood
up and either lean forward or lean back, the Holy

(01:44:49):
Spirit would hold you up in a while. Like that
over the Novasorto is that the Novasorto people aren't as
reverent like, I would be okay with everybody receiving in
the hand if they touched Jesus with the same reverence
as that woman in the Bible that knew if she

(01:45:11):
could just touch the hem of his cloak, she'd be healed.
And she touched him, and she was healed in that instant.
And then Jesus said, who touched me?

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
His disciples are like, there's people all around us, touching us,
touching you. And he was, no, there's a woman that
just touched me, and he told her that her faith
healed her. But the people that go up for Nova Soto,
they take it in their hand. Now I've never taken
it in my hand. I'm not for a couple of reasons. One,

(01:45:41):
I am not holy enough to touch Jesus. Two, my
hands have not been consecrated by the bishop. Now the
bishop wants to consecrate my hands, I'll touch Jesus all
day long.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
But you're talking about communion.

Speaker 4 (01:45:55):
Right, yes, you know, until he consecrates my hands, I'll
take it directly on the tongue.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
That's crazy, because I grew up where we passed a
plate around and I broke off a corner of the
cracker and plopped in on me in the mouth myself,
like there, that's just that's it, that's that's such a
foreign concept. But I could under like, I see the
logic in what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:46:24):
Well, the difference this has.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
Made me making me think, Man, have I because you
know it says whosoever ateth and drink it unworthily edith
and drink it damnation unto himself. And so it's like,
have I really just been insulting the blood and body
of Christ for all this time?

Speaker 4 (01:46:45):
A no, because when you go to a church that's
not Catholic, that's not consecrated, okay, okay, and so.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
And we're and we're wrapping up here, I really got
to stop asking. You've got my brains turning over here,
because I never I don't really I'm gonna be to
be candid. I don't have very much exposure to many Catholics,
and so I appreciate you sitting here and having this
discussion because, like I said, for I mean absolutely no disrespect.
I completely respect you and your beliefs. And even though

(01:47:23):
I don't believe, I firmly believe that you believe what
you say, and so I can respect that you know,
if nothing else, and.

Speaker 4 (01:47:32):
When when I come on these shows, I don't come
in to argue or to present my side as I'm
right and you're wrong. I just come in and give
you this is what we believe. Sure I don't believe
the same thing. Well, that's what makes the world go around.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
Absolutely absolutely, mister Zachary King, you have been absolutely amazing.
Once again, we can't thank you enough for taking this
time out of your evening to come spend with us.
If you have anything that you would like to plug
for our listeners, please take it away.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
You know, I think the biggest thing I like to
bring your listeners is that you cannot sell what you
do not own. You do not own your soul. Jesus
died for you. You paid the ultimate price for your soul.
You don't own it. You can't loan it, you can't
lease it, and you certainly cannot sell it. I'm here
to tell you that if you've heard Satan is a liar,

(01:48:27):
I'm here to confirm that you can't trust the devil
and anything he says. Devil says good morning, get a
second opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
That's solid, that's solid. What's the name of the book
that you wrote and where can our if are any
of our listeners want to want to find it, where
can they find that?

Speaker 4 (01:48:46):
At its abortion is a Satanic sacrifice And in that
I give you the four ways to shut down an
abortion mill. It's all spiritual warfare and you can get
it at either Amazon on or at All Saintsministry dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Awesome, And we will leave a link to the All
Saintsministry dot org in the show notes so that they
can find that a little easier.

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
If you guys come up with more Catholic questions that
you want to know and just them email them.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
To me, absolutely well. I don't think that's going to
be a problem on my part is you'll probably get
tired of saying, hey, here's hanks thirty questions for today.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
No, I'm really hoping that that I don't know, in
the next couple of months we can definitely do like
a not even a yeah, I guess the part two
and might be half. I've been I've been chatting with you, uh,
mister King, And I want to thank you also and

(01:49:56):
and thank you for your time, thank you for everything
that you do that you're doing, because I do believe
what you're doing you're turning the leaf, man, or you've
turned a leaf. I know that it's been a long
time from from where you're at now to your past,
and I think it's amazing. I think it's incredible for

(01:50:21):
anyone that's struggling, that's going through any sort of anything.
It's not too late. It is never too late. And yeah, man,
I we're very thankful to have you on. This is
a very amazing show. We tried to make this one
a little different than than the content that Hank and

(01:50:42):
I have heard. So this is amazing, man, and I
greatly appreciate it. And and shout out to your wife,
and shout out to your children for allowing us to
take your time away from them. I greatly appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
Please don't forget to send me your both of your addresses.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
No, you're gonna get You're gonna get in about in
about five minutes from now. So I'm looking forward to
getting the book, and I'm gonna be greedy, and I
feel I don't know if you do this or don't
do this, but I would. I don't know how this works,
if there's like a distribution center, but I would be
very honored and very blessed if I might be able
to get a little signature in there. Okay, now if

(01:51:23):
you can. If not, it's not a big deal. I'm
thankful for the book. I feel really bad saying this,
but I but I'm gonna say because I feel the
need to say it. I think that'd be really cool.
I have a few signed books and it would be
an absolute honor, absolute honor.

Speaker 4 (01:51:41):
My pleasure.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
And if and then if there's a link where you can,
you can, I'll write you off to the side. If
there's a link, If there's something I could do on
my end to donate to the ministry, I would be
happy to do so.

Speaker 4 (01:51:54):
Oh if you could put we're having a fundraiser, if
you could put the links on this.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
Thing, absolutely absolutely you just sent uh, send Kyle that
link and we'll get it put into the the show notes.
We'll have that right at the top of the show notes.
It's the first thing they'll seek.

Speaker 4 (01:52:14):
All right, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:15):
Absolutely certain. We cannot thank you enough. We could sit
here and thank you for another fifteen minutes, but we've
taken up enough of your time this evening. Ladies and gentlemen,
the mister Zachary mean thank you for having me. Thank you, sir,