September 4, 2024 • 38 mins
In this special bonus episode, Susan, Sharon and Melissa spill a few secrets about our upcoming season and fun guests coming soon to 80s TV Ladies. Can you guess what female-driven television shows from the 1980s we’ll be covering in our upcoming season?
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This year is the 45th anniversary of President Carter's Crisis of Confidence speech. Get Susan’s new play about it: Confidence (and the Speech) at Broadway Licensing.
THE CONVERSATION
- Do we know what we did this summer? How was your summer?
- What is that feeling in the air? Is it hope?!! Are you ready to Vote?
- Does Melissa even want to talk about her summer?
- Okay, for real: what shows are we gonna cover in Season THREE?!
- Can you guess the shows?
- The Vickie Lawrence-starring, Carol Burnett Show spin-off sitcom, Mama’s Family.
- You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have… The Facts of Life.
- Yes! And finally yes: The Golden Girls!
- What are the recurring themes we are discovering through Season 1 and 2 interviews?
- Yes, there will be more special series guests this season: More Director Ladies, Star Trek Ladies, Stunt Ladies and more surprises!
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Read about our first guest for Season 3: Jennifer Keishan Armstrong at jenniferkarmstrong.com
Get info on Jennifer’s books and prep for episode 301:
- Mary and Lou and Rhoda and Ted: And all the Brilliant Minds Who Made The Mary Tyler Moore Show a Classic at Jennifer's website.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Weirdy, weird media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Eighties and so pretty through the city.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Getting the money Man World.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Welcome to Eighties TV Ladies Season three sneak Peek with
your hosts, Sharon Johnson and Susan Lambert HadAM.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Hello, I'm Susan and I'm Sharon. Listeners, Hope your summer
has been amazing. My summer has been fun and busy
and you know, just just really overall really great. I
got to do some traveling, got to see some friends
from college while I was doing some traveling, and you know,
(00:53):
I love summer. I love the long day, so summer
works for me. So, Susan, I was your summer.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
My summer it was also pretty great. It's been a
little exhausting because I'm doing several projects. Of course, even
though we took a summer hiatus for the podcast, there
still was a lot of work to do and ketch.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Up on a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And I've been submitting my projects and myself for whatever
is next, hopefully some paying work.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'm going to get paid.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I've really been enjoying This summer. Was really fun because
I've been working on this indie pilot, indie television pilot
called Famous Lake Park. It has been so much fun.
I got to go to New York for recording the
voice actors directing the voice actors, and they're shooting in
New York and they keep sending me this amazing footage
and puppetry is amazing, pretty amazing. So it will be
(01:46):
screening in New York on November thirtieth at a place
called Culture Lab in Brooklyn or Queens somewhere like that.
Some are cool, somewhere very cool. And I'm really excited.
I hope we can get it finished time.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
We have faith you will.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And I got to do a little bit of traveling,
but mostly we stayed home and hung out. And Melissa,
how was your summer?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't ask.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It is great, great, great, you say through gritted teeth. Great,
But I don't know, kind of feels like the end
of this summer. The last month has been filled with
the I don't know, a new feeling I haven't felt
in a long mile, Sharon, an excitement, a tingling up
(02:39):
the spine, a lightness.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yes, hope is what I believe it's called. And dare
I say it? Joy? It's been a while, yes it has.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We have a female presidential candidate it's initially running for
the office of president. We have an amazing, joyful, cool
guy that I didn't really know much about except for
that picture with all the kids hugging him because he
gave them free school lunch. So Harris Walls, let's go.
(03:14):
That has been a very unexpected detour.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Of the summer, Yes, very unexpected to.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Something called the Hope Zone.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, people are excited about it, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Some some people, and hopefully this train will stay on
that hope track and take us all the way to
the land of joy. All abo, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
All right, but we got to move on and tell
you what this sneak peak is all about. First, we
have some thank yous. We have to thank some of
our top Patreon supporters who have been with us, some
from the almost the very beginning since we first launched Patreon.
Thank you all so much. We want to especially thank
the following patrios.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Thank you Sherry, excuse me, like Storry, Sorry about that.
We love Shari, like Starry, we do. Thank you Megan,
thank you Mike, thank you Kate, and thank you Ann.
We really really really appreciate your support more than we
can say.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And we have more patrons now than that, and I
welcome all of our new patrons. You can now try
Patreon for free, you know, our patreons, so you can
access all that stuff that we have, all the episodes
ad free and the special content. We just dropped one
like a few weeks ago that was about Melissa and
(04:41):
I on the red carpet for the Writer's Guild Award.
Super fun, big fun. And then I got to like
basically take Sharon through our story of that day because
she wasn't there. So it was super fun little episode
that we put out only for Patreon right now. So
if you're thinking of trying it out, try the free
to well and then and then turn it into.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Sorry sorry, okay, try the free trial at Patreoni Patreon.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
It's enough time, what's good? Like some free trials are
like seven days, You're.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Like that's not enough.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, and so it's more than that, okay, so you
have time to to try it forget about it, and
then go wait, I got.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
To go listen to that free trial and then god, I'm.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Really liking this.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You know what, I can throw these poor ladies a
few bucks to help make this cool podcast. It really
does if you want to support us. It helps us
immensely produce this podcast. Advertising only pays for a very
small portion of the costs of producing this podcast, and
by small portion, I mean about coffee a month.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, you know, it really has to be said out
there that you, Susan, are footing the bill for this
and doing it out of love, full stop. I have
to say yes one four whether you're going to drop it,
you know, into the show, but it's it's you, you know,
you footing the bill out of love, and we are
enjoying the gravy train.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So it would be nice at least for you to
make your money back. That would be nice for you. Yes,
I would like it that you would break even on
the eighties TV ladies.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
That would be nice.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I think it's coming. I think it's coming. We're heading
in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I feel it too. We're on the freeway of love.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Here and I'm you know again, Now this may change,
but one of the things is I used to work
on big projects, studio level projects, and I used to
work in marketing and which you get paid a living
wage and more so sometimes and as a high level consultant,
and at a certain point I'm like, I'm just going
to be tucking this money away and use it for
(06:39):
good and good being producing cool content that I love
that I think should be out there. That includes this podcast,
but also a lot of my theater and the Tie
the Pie Guy and.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Things like that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So that's been my joy to produce things I'm really
proud of. And sometimes that means creating it on the
ground up and paying for it in the hopes that
it will pay off. And sometimes I have broken even
sometimes I've made like twenty bucks twenty bucks is twenty
bucks twenty bucks profit?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah? Yeah, And we.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Started to come close with ty the Peguy to going
into profit and being able to turn the show back on,
and then Amazon changed their algorithm and well all the
creators that were on Amazon blank.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Anyway, But I believe in the show.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I'm so grateful that you guys have come on board
because you're not being paid.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But it's really fun.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But it's really fun, So I appreciate you guys, and
I am very proud to be doing this show.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
As am I. It was such an unexpected gift as
I transitioned from my work life into my post work life.
So yeah, I can't thank you enough for taking me
along on this ride.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Just a joy.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I can't believe heading into season three. Excuse me, I'm
getting all choked up. You know we dropped our first
episode July sixteenth, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Did I get that right? Or July nineteen? I should
have looked this up.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I'm I am so grateful to the listeners, to our fans,
our supporters, even those like we hear from people that
aren't on our Patreon, We hear from fans, and I
am so grateful that the people are like, Hey, I
love this episode, I love this guest. Bring this guest
back on. You know, hey, have you thought about this show?
(08:29):
They'll answer questions that we ask on the show, like
really seriously. You know when we go, hey, I wonder
why women didn't get to do this, you know, or something,
they'll be like, well, here's my theory. And also, hey,
I wonder why the show did this, and they're like, well,
i'll tell you, and they give me the you know,
three articles from nineteen eighty two that tells us exactly why.
But I'm also grateful for our whole team, Sharon, Melissa, Kevin, Sergio,
(08:54):
Megan so Rita, and we have a new helper, Sailor,
and she is awesome. Yay Sailor. Yeah, yeah, she's a.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Friend of your friend or a daughter of a friend
or a friend friend. Yeah, that came to Los Angeles
looking to get into this crazy business of show. And
she's so awesome. She's so great, she's pretty awesome. So
she's she's really been helping us out. So shout out
to Sailor, and also to those who helped us launch
our first year, Sullivan and Sean from Concept Lab and
(09:24):
Lynn from Green Galactic PR. I joked once that somebody
thought we had a whole PR team. We did have
PR to launch, and I called in a favor from
my friend Lynn and it helped us launch very nicely.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Anyway, we're talking about season three and what's going to come,
what's going to happen, Sharon. You know, the joyful thing
is we make plans and often we're able to execute
those plans. But I really love it when we get
excited and surprised by things that come to us. We
had a number of surprises in season two.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Fantastic.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah's just coming in hot. Sorry, Kevin, we've been we've
been in down a little while. This is the first time.
We still don't know we.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Used to do a podcast, I vaguely in the weeks
and we're toast.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Oh gosh. Yeah. So one of the great things about
I think the structure of the podcast is it really
does allow us to kind of pivot when something happens
and we go, oh, we should do that, And so
far it's all worked out really well.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It has, and so I'm so excited about So but
let's give our listeners a little few tweaks and thinks
and peaks and queaks of what we're doing, a taste,
a taste of the season three. We definitely love talking
to stunt women, and so we're going to have more
stunt women, more star trek ladies, more director ladies, more authors,
(11:03):
because I love that part. That's really fun for me.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yeah, and it's really great that there are so many
in terms of authors, that there is a lot of
work being done out there about television and television history
by a lot of really cool women, and we've been
lucky enough to have some of them on and we'll
look forward to having more of them on as well.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Now there's some special guests we can't announce we can't.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh, you know, Melissa, Melissa knows.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
But stay tunelesst's stay tuned. Yes, I think we'll announce
it soon. We'll announce and we'll announce it soon. Okay,
but let's get to the shows. Yes, right, So, overall,
we do have shows that we've determined that we are
going to be covering this year. Some were suggested by
listeners who contacted us through the website aightiestv Ladies dot com,
Some were suggested by fans of YouTube or on Facebook,
(11:56):
and some are just ones who are like, well, we
really need to talk about that show because we want to.
So first step, we have Susan.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
First up, we have Mama's Family, a show that again
I had sort of forgotten about and realized I watched
a lot of but also didn't realize it that it
ran for so long. Mama's Family starred Vicky Lawrence as Mama,
a character created for the Carol Burnett Show, along with
(12:25):
Dorothy Lyman, Ken Barry Beverly Archer, Carol Burnett, Harvey Korman,
Rue McClanahan. I had forgotten she was in the show,
Karen Argood, who played the daughter, and Eric Brown, who
played the young son and we got to interview him
and he's delightful and has some great stories about working
(12:48):
with the ladies of the eighties. So I highly recommend
that interview. He's a super cool guy and we talked
to him about things he's doing now and his time
as basically a child actor in the eighties.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
So look for that one. So another show that we
have gotten many, many, many request suggestions for, we're gonna
do it this year, and that's The Golden Girls.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yea, thank you for being in the friend I want
to thank you.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Not that I needed one, but gives me an excuse
to go back and start watching lots and lots of episodes.
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And so yeah, I am really excited about that one.
And then also our last, so we picked three that
we cover.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
We used to pick.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Four or five and then we realized we have to
pick fewer because we get surprises. So our last one
was tough because I was like, do we mix up
dramas and comedies all this stuff? I mean it was
I think this was the big one that I wasn't
sure about.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Yeah, it's always nice to have a mixture genres, but still,
I mean, the first season, they were all one hour
quote unquote dramas. So why not this year? This season
have all comedies, all comedies.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So the comedy that we picked that I cannot wait
to cover is The Facts of Life. Yeah, I got
to tell you, I already started watching the pilot. It
blew my mind. I had forgotten so much about that show,
and particularly the early part of that show, which has
a very different cast.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yes, they had a big cast when they started. They did.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
They had a big cast that included one young Molly Ringwald.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
I hadn't totally no idea she was in Facts of
Life in the early days. I have to admit I
was not a person who watched Facts of Life when
it originally aired. Of course I was aware of it
because you know, it was on TV and I wanted
to know. But you about like shows about kids, exactly right, exactly.
I have actually started watching that and it's not the
(14:57):
show that it came to be, which is not in
a s necessarily a bad thing, but like You'm so
surprised from where it started and really glad that that
was at a time which doesn't seem to still be
kind of the thing in TV that it had a
chance that somebody at the network saw enough of it
to realize that this really could be something and gave
(15:19):
it some time to find itself. And I'm enjoying it.
I'm really enjoying it.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
That was my jam, Tacks of Life, Tacks of Life.
Oh yes, I watched it a lot. I liked it
a lot. It wouldn't be in my top five, but
it was in my top twenty for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And I've forgotten about moll Ringwall and I'd totally forgotten
it was a spin off of Different Strokes.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I forgot that remembered about the Different Strokes. I think
I don't really watched Different Strokes either, but that's another story.
But again, I was aware of talking about how did.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
You talk about No, I kind of forgot it was
too But they really play it up that it's.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
In the beginning. Yeah, yeah, bring up and then I
never really they don't go back after first season. I
don't remember them ever talking about it anyway.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So many women that I'm super curious about. I'm hoping
we can get on the show. So if anybody knows
anybody in that cast, feel free to have them reach
out to us.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yes, everybody sent us your white light of luck. Yes, yeah,
we're going to get the cast. Yeah, we're gonna try
so great, it would be so great.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, and we're trying for all the casts, of course,
members and we'll see. We're gonna again swing for the fences,
of course. But we have some really exciting guests for
Mama's Family. We also have an amazing guest. Should we
tell them, Yeah, we can tell them. Let's sneak peak. Yeah,
she's a great guest, Dorothy Lyman. We will be talking
(16:48):
to Dorothy Lyman, actress from Mama's Family.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
All my Children, two time Emmy winner for her work
on All My Children.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Which is how she got the job. I mean, she's
a great story. Yeah, great stories and really quite an
amazing accomplished actress and director.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
In a wonderful interview. And I can't wait to share
it with you guys.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And don't you just love sharing all these fantastic stories
of these amazing ladies.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Oh yeah, that's been the unexpected joy of the podcast,
just not just being able to share it, but learning
it for myself as well. Lots of stories and lots
of women that I did not know about and their
contributions to television back in the eighties exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I'm so curious about where these women came from what
made the eighties ladies shows stand out for me? But also,
you know, we're starting to see recurring themes in the
people who made them, you know, of resilience of being
forged by some of the social, cultural and political stuff
(17:56):
of the sixties and seventies, and really, like you know,
I'm thinking of the stunt one in particular, it's like, Okay,
are you just super tough or are you crazy? And
see a little bit of both, a little bit of
both for all of these women that we're pushing forward
into these places where there weren't that many women. And
Dorothy Lyman's story is pretty incredible. And then there's also
(18:20):
i think consistent themes of being pushed back on. Once
these women reach what should be they have proven themselves,
you know, sometime in the mid to late eighties, even
early into the early nineties, and they should be at
the pinnacle of their career, and then sometimes they stop
getting work yep, and they have to shift and that's
(18:44):
absolutely stunning and terrible a thing we need to stop
from happening.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
As we just also talk about it too, right, because
if you don't talk about what happened, Yeah, it's like,
you know, when we talked about that thread of the
story and it's gone.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
The threat of the story is that again, at a
certain point, these women were dismissed summarily. Yeah, yep, yeah,
you know, and you see it both in features and
in television, and it's tough.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
And as much as I'd like to be able to
say that we're past that, we are not. It continues
to happen to women to this day. There's a different
standard for probably more in features. I think in television
women have made more strides, but still there is still
this barrier. You know, a woman makes a movie that's
(19:36):
successful and then sits at home where was waiting for
the phone ring, and nobody calls, nobody read, and a
man doing basically the same thing, suddenly he's the toast
of here of the town, and here money thrown at
him to make this and that and get it. And
that still happens way, way, way too often. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It was astonishing watching these young directors come up in
my time, and then they wouldn't get it. They would
do these amazing features, and then they wouldn't get a
second feature ten years, whereas again, oh, sure you did
a feature.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
It was pretty good. Let's give you the next Star.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Wars exactly, the next Jurassic Park whatever.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
It's fine, of course you.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Can handle that, right. So yeah, you know, I'm loving
these stories. It's interesting now that we have sort of
collected a body of these stories, how these themes are
coming up. I'm really interested to see how season three continues.
That Golden Girls is going to be really interesting because
we don't have a cast unfortunately, but we will bring
(20:46):
Stan Zimmerman back. We will try to get some important
people on that show. Or talking about that show, I'm
really excited to cover it. You know, again, as I've
started kind of looking at that show and it's so
much fun, you forget how fun it is. But it
also has so many interesting things. The women who live
(21:09):
together in order to save money. Yeah, after their partners
have left or died. You know, Oh, we're all going
to be roommates in your house because you know, we'll
help with your mortgage. And the perception is is they're
so old, right, they're in their golden years, but they're fifty.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
That is I hate to say it.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
As a woman of a certain age.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
We are old ladies. All of a sudden, you stop that.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Okay, I'm fags and I can kick and I can punch.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah until I fall over.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Ow Okay, all right, what else can we tell them
about season three? Well, we hope to have more surprises,
more Director Ladies star tar Tek Ladies and tar Tech Ladies.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Star Trek Ladies. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
We did not expect to be talking to Glenn Gordon
Karen this last season.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That happened, Yeah, that happened.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
We did not expect to get a chance to meet
Stan Zimmerman, who was a writer for the first couple
of years in The Golden Girls, and we met him
because of a new project eighties TV ladies theme project
that he had done for Lifetime. So that happened, Oh
right at Divas Christmas. Yes, yeah, exactly. So who knows.
(22:30):
We're hoping the future is bright. Yeah, whatever happens, it's
all been so amazing so far, it really has, and
I'm sure that whatever happens will be as amazing in
its own way.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, So we're chasing down guests. I think I'm excited
Sharon to explore these shows with you guys.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
And the nineties TV.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Baby, Yes, I don't know what's going to happen when
Lama's family.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be what I think,
they might lose their mind explode. It'll be fantastic, like wait,
this was on television? Yeah, exactly, it's gonna be great.
I don't understand, well it does at the time.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
It does beg the question too, that we'll need to
answer for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Do we.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Start them with where it actually started? Or do we
just let the show stand for itself?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Oh right? If they don't know the Carol Burnette shows, yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Which they probably don't. You know, I don't know. I
don't I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's interesting.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Maybe maybe make that extra credit if you're interested, that
may be extra credit, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, I can't I can't wait. I can't wait to
share these shows. Here's my assumption, which you know, never
good never never, it never works out. But they're going
to have heard of Golden Girls and probably seen some
of it. Okay, they're going to never have heard of
Mama's Family, nor effects of life.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Nor facts. I disagree. I disagree. I think they're gonna
no facts of Life. Yeah, I think they're to know
of it, maybe not seen a lot of it perhaps,
but it's one of those shows that's that has been
in reruns for years ago, two years. It may have
been on Nickeloading at some point where a lot of
kids watch TV.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, it's true. Okay, yeah, so they will. Yeah, that's
my prediction about what they will know about these shows.
I think some of them will know the Carol Burnett Show,
but not all of them, which will be something.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Well because they maybe she's been there, they're watchers of
American Masters or something well.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I think like I Love Lucy.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Those are classic shows that also got rerun a lot,
a lot even into the nineties and probably two thousand
and then I started to disappear. It's been very interesting
to know what streaming or not streaming. We were talking
about this. We were on an episode of Advanced TV
Firstory with Cynthia Beemis Abrams, who also covers all decades
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of television history, and we were talking about the shows
that are not going to streaming and either were never
put on DVD or those DVDs are now kind of disappearing. Right,
they're going to be sold out, you know, Shout Factory
for a long time was picking up a lot of
classic shows and making sure they made it to DVD,
(25:35):
and they were doing a pretty wonderful job. I thought
of transferring them to DVD, and they're basically doing sellouts
of a lot of those seventies and eighty shows.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
It also always comes back to rights, who own rights
for the streaming and the music in particular has been
problematic for a number of shows to be kind of
know Murphy Brown, right, No, I mean I don't. I
don't know what the Murphy around situation is, but China
Beach is certainly one of them that you can't Yeah,
(26:06):
that's yeah, China Beach is problematic. Under years was homicide
Life on the Streets, which just was released into for streaming.
You know that that music held up that I mean
music held up Moonlighting to a certain extent, too big,
(26:26):
big le Yeah. So I'm sure there are many other
shows that that are in the same category because of
the music rights, because nobody knew to lock up music
rights for something like streaming back then.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
So anyway, we loved being on advanced TV. He history
with Cynthia beemas Abrams, who is we've been we've been
friends with we're friends with her.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
She's our friend, yeah, our friend in archiving female history
in media.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Amen. Can I get an amen?
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Amen?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Hallelujah.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yes, yes, no, it's true, it's not. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
You gotta listen to the ladies on Cynthia's podcast. It
was yes, I'm sorry, I don't remember the episode, but
it was a really great episode.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I was really proud of you.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Oh oh, you were talking about us.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
We got I thought there was another episode you were
talking about her.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I like her, Yeah, yeah, I like I'd like Cynthia's
podcast a lot. I listened to Advanced TV herstory, There's
no doubt about it. But I loved your episode when
you guys were on.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
It was so much fun. It really was great to
talk to her and get a chance to It was
really great.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And thank you for reminding me that she sent a
lovely chocolate I had package. I know Sharon had not.
She's like, I've been wondering, it's not sitting here.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I figured this was, you know, post podcast. The last
thing we need is to be, you know, hopped up
on sugars.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
We're going to have some fun breaking into this giant
box of chocolate.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
It's like Moose chocolate from Minnesota. I don't know. It's amazing,
it looks amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I have not touched it because I'm a I wanted
to pull out and look at all the stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
But then I was like, somebody in my family.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Is going to find this. It was open, so it
is untouched. I'm excited, and it's on top of the refrigerator,
so Bowie, our dog, cannot.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Get to it.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I know the secret candy zone at the Yes, I.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Visit it often, literally every time I walk in the
back door.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Oh, it's candy here.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Hell, let's see Melissa is our sitcom guest.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Going to the back door.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Hey, where's the candy?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And it's always it's always right when we're going. Who
can we get that's crazy enough to do this thing
with us?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Hello? All right, well we better get to that chocolate.
Yes we mass, but before we do, we should do
a little audiography absolutely or our season three sneak peek,
just so you guys are ready to go. Sounds good
for today's audiography. Women in Podcasting Awards. We are nominated
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WOO in the Women in Podcasting Awards in Entertainment and
if you would be so inclined, we'd appreciate it. If
you would go to their website and give us a vote,
we would really really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
So you go to Womenpodcasters dot com slash vote and
you can enter your name and email and you can
vote for us. There's lots of categories, so you're looking
for the entertainment category. You can vote in the other categories.
We have some friends there, so cow Voices, Grits with
the Side of Murder, and there's a couple others that
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are in there that we know and love. I actually
went through and looked at everyone's podcast which I don't
always do when I'm voting for other podcasts, but I
wanted to give women in podcasting a little boost, and
so it was very I really enjoyed going through that. Well,
there's a lot of categories, so you could just vote
(30:11):
for us. You should vote for some others just you know,
hear some names out.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
There, but if nothing else, just go vote for us. Yeah,
thank you, very very much.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And I would like to shout out the book Mary
and Lou and Rhoda and Ted and all the brilliant
minds who made the Mary Tyler Moore Show a classic.
It's by Jennifer Keishan Armstrong, who also happens to be
the author of When Women Invented Television and who also
happens to be our first guest for season.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
For season three. Yeah, she was excellent conversation.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
So excited. Yeah, she's so smart. Again, we would love
for you to become a Patreon member for us at
patreon dot com slash eightiestv Ladies. Some of the things
that you'll find there. First of all, Melissa's Spotify music
list will be dropping in September. There's three of them
and it's going to be of them. Yes, and they're
(31:04):
really fun. They're really really cool. So eighties TV Ladies theme,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
We'll also get to find the SMK behind the scenes
of the fortieth reunion last October that I did not.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Get to go to, but I did and I did too.
Jaron did great.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, La, Yes, So we'll have a little a little
special on that. We just dropped the Writers Guild Awards special.
These are exclusive to Patreon. We're going to do more
watch alongs, which we did on Patreon and it was
so much fun, so we were going to definitely do
more of that in the coming year.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
The one we did last year was The Ladies of
the Eighties Davis Christmas movie that we mentioned before, and
oh my gosh, that was so much fun to watch
along with all of you. It was super fun.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It was more fun than I thought it was going
to be, and I was like, oh, this will be fun,
but it was like delightful, so totally delightful. Yeah, and
my sister was like, it made it so fun to
watch that, so I was like, oh, great, We'll do
that again and tell us. If you're a Patreon you
can also reach out to us and say, hey, here's
what I'd like you. Of course get ad free episodes,
(32:11):
which is lovely if you don't want to skip those
ads or listen to them, except you should listen to
the ones that Sharon and I introduce and host read.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Because that helps us a lot.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, we wants read womans don't we don't you want
to advertise on the Eighties TV Ladies, Please advertise on
the Eighties TV Ladies.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
We like to get our audience is out there. We
have an audience, they're listening. We do, and I love
our advertisers. I need to shout out our advertisers, Grits
with the Side of Murder, who advertise with us this year,
and I'm now a little bit addicted to their shown
and Bethdisruptor dot Com, which was so this was our
(32:52):
first host red ad. I want to thank those guys
for being part of our season two and we look
forward to new partners and more old partners for season three.
It's right be the Disruptor, Bethdisruptor dot com ye. And
I want to thank all our listeners for telling their
friends about a podcast. I met somebody the other day
(33:12):
and was like, Oh, a friend of mine told me
about your podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Oh yay, and it was very exciting. It was kind
of a friend of a friend. I love it, but
I hadn't talked to them in a while and they
were like, oh, but Nita told me all about it.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I'm listening.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It's great and my friend from college found me. Yes,
Melissa's a lot of Melissa's.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Friends quote unquote from college have been tracking her down
through the eighties TV ladies.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
How in the world did you find me on the
eighties TV Ladies? But they did.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
That is good. This is another fan request. We will
be launching a store so on Patreon. Actually, if you're
a patron at a certain level, you actually get access
to the Patreon store, which is only through Patreon, and
you can now get a mug. If you're at a
certain level, you get free digital stuff. But you actually
(34:02):
now are going to get you know, products to put
on your shelf and on yourself.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Ye merch, merch they call it Eighties TV Ladies.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Merch is coming finally, and so we're launching the Patreon
store first, I think, and then but we will be
launching an actual publicly facing store and fans will be
able to just get a T shirt of eighties TV ladies.
So tell us what you want your T shirt to be?
What we what t shirts we should make for you
(34:32):
to wear and products, really more products.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
It doesn't have to be a T shirt. Any suggestions.
Pen our pens are great and.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I got some pen Now those aren't going to at
the moment be available in store.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I won't recommend.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Those are only promotional at this point, so you have
to be handed them.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Or what about the mint tins?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Then we're almost out of Yeah, like the pens, those
were things that we made for the fortieth last year.
Those lucky people hopefully many of them are still listeners
also have those, and we'll have very complimentary Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I have like five tens of those mints left. They're cool,
They're very cool. They were a little expensive, but they
were very cool. I wanted good mints, yeah, and I
think they turned out even better than I thought. Anyway,
So if you get it, if you get a mint ten,
you can use it and eat it and keep it forever,
or you could leave it unopened. That's right now. It's
(35:31):
a classic. We won't be printing them again. We won't
be making those particular mint tens again.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Sub day it'll be worth fifty cents.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I have the original.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Mint ten from the eighties TV ladies Scarecrow and Missus
King fortieth anniversary. It did. I was not kidding around.
I wanted those people to have something special.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, So if you want us also at your convention
or event.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, invite us along and we'll bring mints, special mints
just for your event.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Don't promise special mons, whatever event.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Okay, invite us along. We'll be happy to come there.
We'll bring your pens hen anyway, keep an eye out
for that. We're gonna have a great year, I think
both in front of and behind the mic. Do you
want to give a sneak out to the comic Con?
Are you aloud to say that yet? Do you want
to talk comic Con? I think I cannot.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Okay, cool, but maybe we make Maybe we could just
leave that part in and we don't know what we
can tell you about comic Con.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Maybe yeah, at the La camic can.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
It is Melssa is telling all our secrets. I love
to say a thing. Hush hush, all right, So listeners,
As we've mentioned before, we really appreciate your feedback. So
if you like our show, please make sure to leave
us a rating and a review on Apple Podcasts or
Spotify or whatever platform you and you can mention what
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shows or ladies you'd like for us to cover, whatever
other information. But please you can always reach out to
us and find us at Eighties TV Ladies. Our website
is eightiestvladies dot com. We're also on Twitter. Our handle
is or yeah so I'm calling It's Twitter Eighties tv Ladies.
We'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
We will be kicking off season three on September eighteenth,
so stay tuned. That'll be when we are dropping episode
one of season three.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And everybody's got to like it. For my birthday present,
because I'm my birthday day. Yes, for my birthday, give
us five stars.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And for Melissa's birthday, that's what she wants. Everyone live stars,
five patronss Okay, and if you and then we'll send
Melissa will send you a thank you?
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yes I will. If you do that special music list
made just for you, I would do that.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
You would do that, make a special list first patrons? Yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, sounds like a deal. Fantastic. So as always,
we hope eighty CV Ladies brings you joy and laughter
and lots of fabulous new and old shows to watch,
all of which will lead us forward toward being amazing
ladies of the twenty first Century's so pretty eighties Into
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the city
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Gooding eighty
Weirdy, weird media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Eighties and so pretty through the city.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Getting the money Man World.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Welcome to Eighties TV Ladies Season three sneak Peek with
your hosts, Sharon Johnson and Susan Lambert HadAM.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Hello, I'm Susan and I'm Sharon. Listeners, Hope your summer
has been amazing. My summer has been fun and busy
and you know, just just really overall really great. I
got to do some traveling, got to see some friends
from college while I was doing some traveling, and you know,
(00:53):
I love summer. I love the long day, so summer
works for me. So, Susan, I was your summer.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
My summer it was also pretty great. It's been a
little exhausting because I'm doing several projects. Of course, even
though we took a summer hiatus for the podcast, there
still was a lot of work to do and ketch.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Up on a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And I've been submitting my projects and myself for whatever
is next, hopefully some paying work.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'm going to get paid.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I've really been enjoying This summer. Was really fun because
I've been working on this indie pilot, indie television pilot
called Famous Lake Park. It has been so much fun.
I got to go to New York for recording the
voice actors directing the voice actors, and they're shooting in
New York and they keep sending me this amazing footage
and puppetry is amazing, pretty amazing. So it will be
(01:46):
screening in New York on November thirtieth at a place
called Culture Lab in Brooklyn or Queens somewhere like that.
Some are cool, somewhere very cool. And I'm really excited.
I hope we can get it finished time.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
We have faith you will.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And I got to do a little bit of traveling,
but mostly we stayed home and hung out. And Melissa,
how was your summer?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't ask.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It is great, great, great, you say through gritted teeth. Great,
But I don't know, kind of feels like the end
of this summer. The last month has been filled with
the I don't know, a new feeling I haven't felt
in a long mile, Sharon, an excitement, a tingling up
(02:39):
the spine, a lightness.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yes, hope is what I believe it's called. And dare
I say it? Joy? It's been a while, yes it has.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We have a female presidential candidate it's initially running for
the office of president. We have an amazing, joyful, cool
guy that I didn't really know much about except for
that picture with all the kids hugging him because he
gave them free school lunch. So Harris Walls, let's go.
(03:14):
That has been a very unexpected detour.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Of the summer, Yes, very unexpected to.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Something called the Hope Zone.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, people are excited about it, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Some some people, and hopefully this train will stay on
that hope track and take us all the way to
the land of joy. All abo, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
All right, but we got to move on and tell
you what this sneak peak is all about. First, we
have some thank yous. We have to thank some of
our top Patreon supporters who have been with us, some
from the almost the very beginning since we first launched Patreon.
Thank you all so much. We want to especially thank
the following patrios.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Thank you Sherry, excuse me, like Storry, Sorry about that.
We love Shari, like Starry, we do. Thank you Megan,
thank you Mike, thank you Kate, and thank you Ann.
We really really really appreciate your support more than we
can say.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And we have more patrons now than that, and I
welcome all of our new patrons. You can now try
Patreon for free, you know, our patreons, so you can
access all that stuff that we have, all the episodes
ad free and the special content. We just dropped one
like a few weeks ago that was about Melissa and
(04:41):
I on the red carpet for the Writer's Guild Award.
Super fun, big fun. And then I got to like
basically take Sharon through our story of that day because
she wasn't there. So it was super fun little episode
that we put out only for Patreon right now. So
if you're thinking of trying it out, try the free
to well and then and then turn it into.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Sorry sorry, okay, try the free trial at Patreoni Patreon.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
It's enough time, what's good? Like some free trials are
like seven days, You're.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Like that's not enough.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, and so it's more than that, okay, so you
have time to to try it forget about it, and
then go wait, I got.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
To go listen to that free trial and then god, I'm.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Really liking this.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You know what, I can throw these poor ladies a
few bucks to help make this cool podcast. It really
does if you want to support us. It helps us
immensely produce this podcast. Advertising only pays for a very
small portion of the costs of producing this podcast, and
by small portion, I mean about coffee a month.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, you know, it really has to be said out
there that you, Susan, are footing the bill for this
and doing it out of love, full stop. I have
to say yes one four whether you're going to drop it,
you know, into the show, but it's it's you, you know,
you footing the bill out of love, and we are
enjoying the gravy train.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So it would be nice at least for you to
make your money back. That would be nice for you. Yes,
I would like it that you would break even on
the eighties TV ladies.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
That would be nice.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I think it's coming. I think it's coming. We're heading
in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I feel it too. We're on the freeway of love.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Here and I'm you know again, Now this may change,
but one of the things is I used to work
on big projects, studio level projects, and I used to
work in marketing and which you get paid a living
wage and more so sometimes and as a high level consultant,
and at a certain point I'm like, I'm just going
to be tucking this money away and use it for
(06:39):
good and good being producing cool content that I love
that I think should be out there. That includes this podcast,
but also a lot of my theater and the Tie
the Pie Guy and.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Things like that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So that's been my joy to produce things I'm really
proud of. And sometimes that means creating it on the
ground up and paying for it in the hopes that
it will pay off. And sometimes I have broken even
sometimes I've made like twenty bucks twenty bucks is twenty
bucks twenty bucks profit?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah? Yeah, And we.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Started to come close with ty the Peguy to going
into profit and being able to turn the show back on,
and then Amazon changed their algorithm and well all the
creators that were on Amazon blank.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Anyway, But I believe in the show.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I'm so grateful that you guys have come on board
because you're not being paid.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But it's really fun.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But it's really fun, So I appreciate you guys, and
I am very proud to be doing this show.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
As am I. It was such an unexpected gift as
I transitioned from my work life into my post work life.
So yeah, I can't thank you enough for taking me
along on this ride.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Just a joy.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I can't believe heading into season three. Excuse me, I'm
getting all choked up. You know we dropped our first
episode July sixteenth, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Did I get that right? Or July nineteen? I should
have looked this up.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I'm I am so grateful to the listeners, to our fans,
our supporters, even those like we hear from people that
aren't on our Patreon, We hear from fans, and I
am so grateful that the people are like, Hey, I
love this episode, I love this guest. Bring this guest
back on. You know, hey, have you thought about this show?
(08:29):
They'll answer questions that we ask on the show, like
really seriously. You know when we go, hey, I wonder
why women didn't get to do this, you know, or something,
they'll be like, well, here's my theory. And also, hey,
I wonder why the show did this, and they're like, well,
i'll tell you, and they give me the you know,
three articles from nineteen eighty two that tells us exactly why.
But I'm also grateful for our whole team, Sharon, Melissa, Kevin, Sergio,
(08:54):
Megan so Rita, and we have a new helper, Sailor,
and she is awesome. Yay Sailor. Yeah, yeah, she's a.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Friend of your friend or a daughter of a friend
or a friend friend. Yeah, that came to Los Angeles
looking to get into this crazy business of show. And
she's so awesome. She's so great, she's pretty awesome. So
she's she's really been helping us out. So shout out
to Sailor, and also to those who helped us launch
our first year, Sullivan and Sean from Concept Lab and
(09:24):
Lynn from Green Galactic PR. I joked once that somebody
thought we had a whole PR team. We did have
PR to launch, and I called in a favor from
my friend Lynn and it helped us launch very nicely.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Anyway, we're talking about season three and what's going to come,
what's going to happen, Sharon. You know, the joyful thing
is we make plans and often we're able to execute
those plans. But I really love it when we get
excited and surprised by things that come to us. We
had a number of surprises in season two.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Fantastic.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah's just coming in hot. Sorry, Kevin, we've been we've
been in down a little while. This is the first time.
We still don't know we.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Used to do a podcast, I vaguely in the weeks
and we're toast.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Oh gosh. Yeah. So one of the great things about
I think the structure of the podcast is it really
does allow us to kind of pivot when something happens
and we go, oh, we should do that, And so
far it's all worked out really well.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It has, and so I'm so excited about So but
let's give our listeners a little few tweaks and thinks
and peaks and queaks of what we're doing, a taste,
a taste of the season three. We definitely love talking
to stunt women, and so we're going to have more
stunt women, more star trek ladies, more director ladies, more authors,
(11:03):
because I love that part. That's really fun for me.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yeah, and it's really great that there are so many
in terms of authors, that there is a lot of
work being done out there about television and television history
by a lot of really cool women, and we've been
lucky enough to have some of them on and we'll
look forward to having more of them on as well.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Now there's some special guests we can't announce we can't.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh, you know, Melissa, Melissa knows.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
But stay tunelesst's stay tuned. Yes, I think we'll announce
it soon. We'll announce and we'll announce it soon. Okay,
but let's get to the shows. Yes, right, So, overall,
we do have shows that we've determined that we are
going to be covering this year. Some were suggested by
listeners who contacted us through the website aightiestv Ladies dot com,
Some were suggested by fans of YouTube or on Facebook,
(11:56):
and some are just ones who are like, well, we
really need to talk about that show because we want to.
So first step, we have Susan.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
First up, we have Mama's Family, a show that again
I had sort of forgotten about and realized I watched
a lot of but also didn't realize it that it
ran for so long. Mama's Family starred Vicky Lawrence as Mama,
a character created for the Carol Burnett Show, along with
(12:25):
Dorothy Lyman, Ken Barry Beverly Archer, Carol Burnett, Harvey Korman,
Rue McClanahan. I had forgotten she was in the show,
Karen Argood, who played the daughter, and Eric Brown, who
played the young son and we got to interview him
and he's delightful and has some great stories about working
(12:48):
with the ladies of the eighties. So I highly recommend
that interview. He's a super cool guy and we talked
to him about things he's doing now and his time
as basically a child actor in the eighties.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
So look for that one. So another show that we
have gotten many, many, many request suggestions for, we're gonna
do it this year, and that's The Golden Girls.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yea, thank you for being in the friend I want
to thank you.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Not that I needed one, but gives me an excuse
to go back and start watching lots and lots of episodes.
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And so yeah, I am really excited about that one.
And then also our last, so we picked three that
we cover.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
We used to pick.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Four or five and then we realized we have to
pick fewer because we get surprises. So our last one
was tough because I was like, do we mix up
dramas and comedies all this stuff? I mean it was
I think this was the big one that I wasn't
sure about.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Yeah, it's always nice to have a mixture genres, but still,
I mean, the first season, they were all one hour
quote unquote dramas. So why not this year? This season
have all comedies, all comedies.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So the comedy that we picked that I cannot wait
to cover is The Facts of Life. Yeah, I got
to tell you, I already started watching the pilot. It
blew my mind. I had forgotten so much about that show,
and particularly the early part of that show, which has
a very different cast.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yes, they had a big cast when they started. They did.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
They had a big cast that included one young Molly Ringwald.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
I hadn't totally no idea she was in Facts of
Life in the early days. I have to admit I
was not a person who watched Facts of Life when
it originally aired. Of course I was aware of it
because you know, it was on TV and I wanted
to know. But you about like shows about kids, exactly right, exactly.
I have actually started watching that and it's not the
(14:57):
show that it came to be, which is not in
a s necessarily a bad thing, but like You'm so
surprised from where it started and really glad that that
was at a time which doesn't seem to still be
kind of the thing in TV that it had a
chance that somebody at the network saw enough of it
to realize that this really could be something and gave
(15:19):
it some time to find itself. And I'm enjoying it.
I'm really enjoying it.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
That was my jam, Tacks of Life, Tacks of Life.
Oh yes, I watched it a lot. I liked it
a lot. It wouldn't be in my top five, but
it was in my top twenty for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And I've forgotten about moll Ringwall and I'd totally forgotten
it was a spin off of Different Strokes.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I forgot that remembered about the Different Strokes. I think
I don't really watched Different Strokes either, but that's another story.
But again, I was aware of talking about how did.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
You talk about No, I kind of forgot it was
too But they really play it up that it's.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
In the beginning. Yeah, yeah, bring up and then I
never really they don't go back after first season. I
don't remember them ever talking about it anyway.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So many women that I'm super curious about. I'm hoping
we can get on the show. So if anybody knows
anybody in that cast, feel free to have them reach
out to us.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yes, everybody sent us your white light of luck. Yes, yeah,
we're going to get the cast. Yeah, we're gonna try
so great, it would be so great.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, and we're trying for all the casts, of course,
members and we'll see. We're gonna again swing for the fences,
of course. But we have some really exciting guests for
Mama's Family. We also have an amazing guest. Should we
tell them, Yeah, we can tell them. Let's sneak peak. Yeah,
she's a great guest, Dorothy Lyman. We will be talking
(16:48):
to Dorothy Lyman, actress from Mama's Family.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
All my Children, two time Emmy winner for her work
on All My Children.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Which is how she got the job. I mean, she's
a great story. Yeah, great stories and really quite an
amazing accomplished actress and director.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
In a wonderful interview. And I can't wait to share
it with you guys.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And don't you just love sharing all these fantastic stories
of these amazing ladies.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Oh yeah, that's been the unexpected joy of the podcast,
just not just being able to share it, but learning
it for myself as well. Lots of stories and lots
of women that I did not know about and their
contributions to television back in the eighties exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I'm so curious about where these women came from what
made the eighties ladies shows stand out for me? But also,
you know, we're starting to see recurring themes in the
people who made them, you know, of resilience of being
forged by some of the social, cultural and political stuff
(17:56):
of the sixties and seventies, and really, like you know,
I'm thinking of the stunt one in particular, it's like, Okay,
are you just super tough or are you crazy? And
see a little bit of both, a little bit of
both for all of these women that we're pushing forward
into these places where there weren't that many women. And
Dorothy Lyman's story is pretty incredible. And then there's also
(18:20):
i think consistent themes of being pushed back on. Once
these women reach what should be they have proven themselves,
you know, sometime in the mid to late eighties, even
early into the early nineties, and they should be at
the pinnacle of their career, and then sometimes they stop
getting work yep, and they have to shift and that's
(18:44):
absolutely stunning and terrible a thing we need to stop
from happening.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
As we just also talk about it too, right, because
if you don't talk about what happened, Yeah, it's like,
you know, when we talked about that thread of the
story and it's gone.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
The threat of the story is that again, at a
certain point, these women were dismissed summarily. Yeah, yep, yeah,
you know, and you see it both in features and
in television, and it's tough.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
And as much as I'd like to be able to
say that we're past that, we are not. It continues
to happen to women to this day. There's a different
standard for probably more in features. I think in television
women have made more strides, but still there is still
this barrier. You know, a woman makes a movie that's
(19:36):
successful and then sits at home where was waiting for
the phone ring, and nobody calls, nobody read, and a
man doing basically the same thing, suddenly he's the toast
of here of the town, and here money thrown at
him to make this and that and get it. And
that still happens way, way, way too often. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It was astonishing watching these young directors come up in
my time, and then they wouldn't get it. They would
do these amazing features, and then they wouldn't get a
second feature ten years, whereas again, oh, sure you did
a feature.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
It was pretty good. Let's give you the next Star.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Wars exactly, the next Jurassic Park whatever.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
It's fine, of course you.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Can handle that, right. So yeah, you know, I'm loving
these stories. It's interesting now that we have sort of
collected a body of these stories, how these themes are
coming up. I'm really interested to see how season three continues.
That Golden Girls is going to be really interesting because
we don't have a cast unfortunately, but we will bring
(20:46):
Stan Zimmerman back. We will try to get some important
people on that show. Or talking about that show, I'm
really excited to cover it. You know, again, as I've
started kind of looking at that show and it's so
much fun, you forget how fun it is. But it
also has so many interesting things. The women who live
(21:09):
together in order to save money. Yeah, after their partners
have left or died. You know, Oh, we're all going
to be roommates in your house because you know, we'll
help with your mortgage. And the perception is is they're
so old, right, they're in their golden years, but they're fifty.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
That is I hate to say it.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
As a woman of a certain age.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
We are old ladies. All of a sudden, you stop that.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Okay, I'm fags and I can kick and I can punch.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah until I fall over.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Ow Okay, all right, what else can we tell them
about season three? Well, we hope to have more surprises,
more Director Ladies star tar Tek Ladies and tar Tech Ladies.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Star Trek Ladies. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
We did not expect to be talking to Glenn Gordon
Karen this last season.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That happened, Yeah, that happened.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
We did not expect to get a chance to meet
Stan Zimmerman, who was a writer for the first couple
of years in The Golden Girls, and we met him
because of a new project eighties TV ladies theme project
that he had done for Lifetime. So that happened, Oh
right at Divas Christmas. Yes, yeah, exactly. So who knows.
(22:30):
We're hoping the future is bright. Yeah, whatever happens, it's
all been so amazing so far, it really has, and
I'm sure that whatever happens will be as amazing in
its own way.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, So we're chasing down guests. I think I'm excited
Sharon to explore these shows with you guys.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
And the nineties TV.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Baby, Yes, I don't know what's going to happen when
Lama's family.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be what I think,
they might lose their mind explode. It'll be fantastic, like wait,
this was on television? Yeah, exactly, it's gonna be great.
I don't understand, well it does at the time.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
It does beg the question too, that we'll need to
answer for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Do we.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Start them with where it actually started? Or do we
just let the show stand for itself?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Oh right? If they don't know the Carol Burnette shows, yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Which they probably don't. You know, I don't know. I
don't I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's interesting.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Maybe maybe make that extra credit if you're interested, that
may be extra credit, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, I can't I can't wait. I can't wait to
share these shows. Here's my assumption, which you know, never
good never never, it never works out. But they're going
to have heard of Golden Girls and probably seen some
of it. Okay, they're going to never have heard of
Mama's Family, nor effects of life.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Nor facts. I disagree. I disagree. I think they're gonna
no facts of Life. Yeah, I think they're to know
of it, maybe not seen a lot of it perhaps,
but it's one of those shows that's that has been
in reruns for years ago, two years. It may have
been on Nickeloading at some point where a lot of
kids watch TV.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, it's true. Okay, yeah, so they will. Yeah, that's
my prediction about what they will know about these shows.
I think some of them will know the Carol Burnett Show,
but not all of them, which will be something.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Well because they maybe she's been there, they're watchers of
American Masters or something well.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I think like I Love Lucy.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Those are classic shows that also got rerun a lot,
a lot even into the nineties and probably two thousand
and then I started to disappear. It's been very interesting
to know what streaming or not streaming. We were talking
about this. We were on an episode of Advanced TV
Firstory with Cynthia Beemis Abrams, who also covers all decades
(25:14):
of television history, and we were talking about the shows
that are not going to streaming and either were never
put on DVD or those DVDs are now kind of disappearing. Right,
they're going to be sold out, you know, Shout Factory
for a long time was picking up a lot of
classic shows and making sure they made it to DVD,
(25:35):
and they were doing a pretty wonderful job. I thought
of transferring them to DVD, and they're basically doing sellouts
of a lot of those seventies and eighty shows.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
It also always comes back to rights, who own rights
for the streaming and the music in particular has been
problematic for a number of shows to be kind of
know Murphy Brown, right, No, I mean I don't. I
don't know what the Murphy around situation is, but China
Beach is certainly one of them that you can't Yeah,
(26:06):
that's yeah, China Beach is problematic. Under years was homicide
Life on the Streets, which just was released into for streaming.
You know that that music held up that I mean
music held up Moonlighting to a certain extent, too big,
(26:26):
big le Yeah. So I'm sure there are many other
shows that that are in the same category because of
the music rights, because nobody knew to lock up music
rights for something like streaming back then.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
So anyway, we loved being on advanced TV. He history
with Cynthia beemas Abrams, who is we've been we've been
friends with we're friends with her.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
She's our friend, yeah, our friend in archiving female history
in media.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Amen. Can I get an amen?
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Amen?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Hallelujah.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yes, yes, no, it's true, it's not. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
You gotta listen to the ladies on Cynthia's podcast. It
was yes, I'm sorry, I don't remember the episode, but
it was a really great episode.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I was really proud of you.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Oh oh, you were talking about us.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
We got I thought there was another episode you were
talking about her.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I like her, Yeah, yeah, I like I'd like Cynthia's
podcast a lot. I listened to Advanced TV herstory, There's
no doubt about it. But I loved your episode when
you guys were on.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
It was so much fun. It really was great to
talk to her and get a chance to It was
really great.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And thank you for reminding me that she sent a
lovely chocolate I had package. I know Sharon had not.
She's like, I've been wondering, it's not sitting here.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I figured this was, you know, post podcast. The last
thing we need is to be, you know, hopped up
on sugars.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
We're going to have some fun breaking into this giant
box of chocolate.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
It's like Moose chocolate from Minnesota. I don't know. It's amazing,
it looks amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I have not touched it because I'm a I wanted
to pull out and look at all the stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
But then I was like, somebody in my family.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Is going to find this. It was open, so it
is untouched. I'm excited, and it's on top of the refrigerator,
so Bowie, our dog, cannot.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Get to it.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I know the secret candy zone at the Yes, I.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Visit it often, literally every time I walk in the
back door.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Oh, it's candy here.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Hell, let's see Melissa is our sitcom guest.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Going to the back door.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Hey, where's the candy?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And it's always it's always right when we're going. Who
can we get that's crazy enough to do this thing
with us?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Hello? All right, well we better get to that chocolate.
Yes we mass, but before we do, we should do
a little audiography absolutely or our season three sneak peek,
just so you guys are ready to go. Sounds good
for today's audiography. Women in Podcasting Awards. We are nominated
(29:18):
WOO in the Women in Podcasting Awards in Entertainment and
if you would be so inclined, we'd appreciate it. If
you would go to their website and give us a vote,
we would really really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
So you go to Womenpodcasters dot com slash vote and
you can enter your name and email and you can
vote for us. There's lots of categories, so you're looking
for the entertainment category. You can vote in the other categories.
We have some friends there, so cow Voices, Grits with
the Side of Murder, and there's a couple others that
(29:51):
are in there that we know and love. I actually
went through and looked at everyone's podcast which I don't
always do when I'm voting for other podcasts, but I
wanted to give women in podcasting a little boost, and
so it was very I really enjoyed going through that. Well,
there's a lot of categories, so you could just vote
(30:11):
for us. You should vote for some others just you know,
hear some names out.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
There, but if nothing else, just go vote for us. Yeah,
thank you, very very much.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And I would like to shout out the book Mary
and Lou and Rhoda and Ted and all the brilliant
minds who made the Mary Tyler Moore Show a classic.
It's by Jennifer Keishan Armstrong, who also happens to be
the author of When Women Invented Television and who also
happens to be our first guest for season.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
For season three. Yeah, she was excellent conversation.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
So excited. Yeah, she's so smart. Again, we would love
for you to become a Patreon member for us at
patreon dot com slash eightiestv Ladies. Some of the things
that you'll find there. First of all, Melissa's Spotify music
list will be dropping in September. There's three of them
and it's going to be of them. Yes, and they're
(31:04):
really fun. They're really really cool. So eighties TV Ladies theme,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
We'll also get to find the SMK behind the scenes
of the fortieth reunion last October that I did not.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Get to go to, but I did and I did too.
Jaron did great.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, La, Yes, So we'll have a little a little
special on that. We just dropped the Writers Guild Awards special.
These are exclusive to Patreon. We're going to do more
watch alongs, which we did on Patreon and it was
so much fun, so we were going to definitely do
more of that in the coming year.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
The one we did last year was The Ladies of
the Eighties Davis Christmas movie that we mentioned before, and
oh my gosh, that was so much fun to watch
along with all of you. It was super fun.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It was more fun than I thought it was going
to be, and I was like, oh, this will be fun,
but it was like delightful, so totally delightful. Yeah, and
my sister was like, it made it so fun to
watch that, so I was like, oh, great, We'll do
that again and tell us. If you're a Patreon you
can also reach out to us and say, hey, here's
what I'd like you. Of course get ad free episodes,
(32:11):
which is lovely if you don't want to skip those
ads or listen to them, except you should listen to
the ones that Sharon and I introduce and host read.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Because that helps us a lot.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, we wants read womans don't we don't you want
to advertise on the Eighties TV Ladies, Please advertise on
the Eighties TV Ladies.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
We like to get our audience is out there. We
have an audience, they're listening. We do, and I love
our advertisers. I need to shout out our advertisers, Grits
with the Side of Murder, who advertise with us this year,
and I'm now a little bit addicted to their shown
and Bethdisruptor dot Com, which was so this was our
(32:52):
first host red ad. I want to thank those guys
for being part of our season two and we look
forward to new partners and more old partners for season three.
It's right be the Disruptor, Bethdisruptor dot com ye. And
I want to thank all our listeners for telling their
friends about a podcast. I met somebody the other day
(33:12):
and was like, Oh, a friend of mine told me
about your podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Oh yay, and it was very exciting. It was kind
of a friend of a friend. I love it, but
I hadn't talked to them in a while and they
were like, oh, but Nita told me all about it.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I'm listening.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It's great and my friend from college found me. Yes,
Melissa's a lot of Melissa's.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Friends quote unquote from college have been tracking her down
through the eighties TV ladies.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
How in the world did you find me on the
eighties TV Ladies? But they did.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
That is good. This is another fan request. We will
be launching a store so on Patreon. Actually, if you're
a patron at a certain level, you actually get access
to the Patreon store, which is only through Patreon, and
you can now get a mug. If you're at a
certain level, you get free digital stuff. But you actually
(34:02):
now are going to get you know, products to put
on your shelf and on yourself.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Ye merch, merch they call it Eighties TV Ladies.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Merch is coming finally, and so we're launching the Patreon
store first, I think, and then but we will be
launching an actual publicly facing store and fans will be
able to just get a T shirt of eighties TV ladies.
So tell us what you want your T shirt to be?
What we what t shirts we should make for you
(34:32):
to wear and products, really more products.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
It doesn't have to be a T shirt. Any suggestions.
Pen our pens are great and.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I got some pen Now those aren't going to at
the moment be available in store.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I won't recommend.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Those are only promotional at this point, so you have
to be handed them.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Or what about the mint tins?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Then we're almost out of Yeah, like the pens, those
were things that we made for the fortieth last year.
Those lucky people hopefully many of them are still listeners
also have those, and we'll have very complimentary Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I have like five tens of those mints left. They're cool,
They're very cool. They were a little expensive, but they
were very cool. I wanted good mints, yeah, and I
think they turned out even better than I thought. Anyway,
So if you get it, if you get a mint ten,
you can use it and eat it and keep it forever,
or you could leave it unopened. That's right now. It's
(35:31):
a classic. We won't be printing them again. We won't
be making those particular mint tens again.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Sub day it'll be worth fifty cents.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I have the original.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Mint ten from the eighties TV ladies Scarecrow and Missus
King fortieth anniversary. It did. I was not kidding around.
I wanted those people to have something special.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, So if you want us also at your convention
or event.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, invite us along and we'll bring mints, special mints
just for your event.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Don't promise special mons, whatever event.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Okay, invite us along. We'll be happy to come there.
We'll bring your pens hen anyway, keep an eye out
for that. We're gonna have a great year, I think
both in front of and behind the mic. Do you
want to give a sneak out to the comic Con?
Are you aloud to say that yet? Do you want
to talk comic Con? I think I cannot.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Okay, cool, but maybe we make Maybe we could just
leave that part in and we don't know what we
can tell you about comic Con.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Maybe yeah, at the La camic can.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
It is Melssa is telling all our secrets. I love
to say a thing. Hush hush, all right, So listeners,
As we've mentioned before, we really appreciate your feedback. So
if you like our show, please make sure to leave
us a rating and a review on Apple Podcasts or
Spotify or whatever platform you and you can mention what
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shows or ladies you'd like for us to cover, whatever
other information. But please you can always reach out to
us and find us at Eighties TV Ladies. Our website
is eightiestvladies dot com. We're also on Twitter. Our handle
is or yeah so I'm calling It's Twitter Eighties tv Ladies.
We'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
We will be kicking off season three on September eighteenth,
so stay tuned. That'll be when we are dropping episode
one of season three.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And everybody's got to like it. For my birthday present,
because I'm my birthday day. Yes, for my birthday, give
us five stars.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And for Melissa's birthday, that's what she wants. Everyone live stars,
five patronss Okay, and if you and then we'll send
Melissa will send you a thank you?
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yes I will. If you do that special music list
made just for you, I would do that.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
You would do that, make a special list first patrons? Yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, sounds like a deal. Fantastic. So as always,
we hope eighty CV Ladies brings you joy and laughter
and lots of fabulous new and old shows to watch,
all of which will lead us forward toward being amazing
ladies of the twenty first Century's so pretty eighties Into
(38:33):
the city
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Gooding eighty
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!