Susan and Sharon keep the good times rolling with Part 2 of their conversation with singer, song-writer, actress, author and diabetes advocate Gloria Loring! Known for her Number One hit “Friends & Lovers”, Gloria is also the legendary co-composer and singer of the impossible to forget Facts of Life theme song!
In Part 2 of their conversation, they touch on Gloria’s work for the Juvenile Diabetes Association, her wild career in TV and music and the benefits of living a spiritual and healthy life.
THE CONVERSATION
So, join Susan and Sharon -- and Gloria -- as they talk James Brolin, Days of Our Lives, Jimmy Stewart, Hotel, Bob Hope, Diff’rent Strokes, Ann Jillian, Merv Griffin, Richard Crenna, Murder, She Wrote, Jane & Henry Fonda, Jack Lemmon -- and almost having a Chinese Chicken Salad Heart Attack!
AUDIO-OGRAPHY
Catch up with all-things Gloria at her official website: GloriaLoring.com
Check out her Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/glorialoring/
Listen to Gloria’s book “Coincidence is God’s Way of Remaining Anonymous” at Audible or Apple Books. Or buy it at Abe Books.
Watch Season 2 and 3 of The Facts of Life for free on Tubi.
Buy the complete season on DVD at Ebay.
VITAL READING
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In Part 2 of their conversation, they touch on Gloria’s work for the Juvenile Diabetes Association, her wild career in TV and music and the benefits of living a spiritual and healthy life.
THE CONVERSATION
- “EXPECT A MIRACLE” -- How a mysterious card found in her dressing room led Gloria to finance the Days of Our Lives Celebrity Cookbook -- and raise over $1,000,000.00 for diabetes research!
- When her son Brennan was diagnosed with diabetes at age four, Gloria was told he would be lucky to make it to 25. He’s now 50 and doing great!
- BE BRAVE, LITTLE ONE: What it feels like to forget the first line of the song you’re singing at the Oscars!
- YOU CAN’T GO HOME AGAIN: Gloria returned to Days of Our Lives for the funeral of Bill Hays’ character Doug -- but was surprised to find that almost everything had changed…
- The fun of working with Lanna Saunders & Maree Cheatham on Days of Our Lives Writing the Facts of Life theme song with Alan Thicke! (And she’s still getting residuals…)
- The benefits of an ayurvedic diet!
So, join Susan and Sharon -- and Gloria -- as they talk James Brolin, Days of Our Lives, Jimmy Stewart, Hotel, Bob Hope, Diff’rent Strokes, Ann Jillian, Merv Griffin, Richard Crenna, Murder, She Wrote, Jane & Henry Fonda, Jack Lemmon -- and almost having a Chinese Chicken Salad Heart Attack!
AUDIO-OGRAPHY
Catch up with all-things Gloria at her official website: GloriaLoring.com
Check out her Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/glorialoring/
Listen to Gloria’s book “Coincidence is God’s Way of Remaining Anonymous” at Audible or Apple Books. Or buy it at Abe Books.
Watch Season 2 and 3 of The Facts of Life for free on Tubi.
Buy the complete season on DVD at Ebay.
VITAL READING
Check out Democracy Docket here.
Learn more about the ACLU here.
Let your voice be heard! Call your reps. Make 5 Calls makes it easy.
CONNECT
Visit 80sTVLadies.com for transcripts.
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Buy Democracy Awakening by Heather Cox Richardson at Bookshop.org.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Weirdy Way Media.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Eighties hand so Pretty into the City Man World.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Welcome to Eighties TV Ladies, where.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
We look back in order to leap forward, and where
we are currently learning, loving, and singing the facts of life.
Here are your fabulous hosts, Susan Lambert HadAM and Sharon Johnson.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Hi, Eighties TV Ladies, Welcome to part two of our
great conversation with the fabulous Gloria Loring. I know we've
made you wait a little bit, but trust me, it's
gonna be worth it.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
There's so many great stories enjoy.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
I'll start again.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
I'm used to very good at that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Pro so I went into Days of our Lives. I
think it was a Friday morning, and I was first up.
When you're first up, that means you're scenes. You can
make a request. If they can accommodate it, they will.
And I was flying to Houston and I needed to
get there that night because I was participating in a
celebrity tennis tournament for diabetes research. So I'm first up,
(01:23):
and I come in and I put my I always
had my carry bag with my own makeup and my
shoes and Jimmy Stewart when someone said, what's the most
important thing about acting?
Speaker 6 (01:32):
He said, bring your own shoes. My own shoes.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So anyway, I put the bag on the chair next
to the table, the little vanity table, and I did
my day, and I had the script and I did everything.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
At the end of the day, I got dressed.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I had to catch a limo or something to the airport.
And I picked up the bag and under the bag
was a little card that said expect a miracle.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Huh wow.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And I looked and I thought, well, this wasn't for
this morning. This well, this isn't mine. And a little
voice or sense in my head said, don't throw away
a card that says expect a miracle. And I took
that card and I threw it in my carry bag
and I thought, well, and I go to Houston and
a bunch of us were there. It was celebrities. So
(02:19):
we each sang a song or two or told some
jokes or whatever. And I get up on stage and
I do that, and as I'm coming down this side
ramp off the stage, there's a man standing there and
he says, Hi, I'm Ben and I'm from Beaumont, Texas.
And he said, I loved your singing to night and
I didn't realize you had a child with diabetes. And
say said, yeah, my son is now six or whatever
(02:40):
it was, that was seven at that time. And I
hear a voice in my head say, tell him about
the cookbook. And now, by the way, at this point,
I had all the recipes collected, I had a free
graphic artist who had designed everything, and it was all
ready to go to press. But I had no money.
I had asked people I'd lost NBA. See, I'd ask
(03:01):
all these people. Nobody would support the project. And I
hear again, tell them about the cookbook. I'm thinking, okay,
And he said, so, so what do you you're hearing
you know about the diabetes research?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
I said, yes, I do it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You know, I'm doing this cookbook and I've got you know,
we have ten million viewers on days of our lives,
and I've got recipes collected, and I really think the
fans would love a cookbook from their favorite people. And
he said yeah, he said that sounds like a good idea.
And I said, I just I need some sponsors. I
need some people to help me with the funding. And
he said, well, how much.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Do you need?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I said, well, I need fifty thousand dollars so I
can print fifty thousand copies. He said, well, hell, I'll
give you ten. He said, come on, let's go out
in the lobby. I got friends here tonight. By the
time I finished that night, I had seventeen five hundred
dollars committed. Within a month, I had all fifty thousand
dollars committed and checks coming in. We printed that first volume,
(03:59):
volume one of Days of Our Lives celebrity cookbook. We
sold out. We had another fifty thousand we printed because
now we had collected enough money. And what you did
is you sent ten dollars donation and as a thank you,
we sent you. So we weren't selling it. It was
it was a gift. Yes, yeah, so we gave that.
We sold that, and then I did volume two. We
(04:21):
sold out of almost all of those also, and all
together we earned over a million dollars for diabetes research.
Now this is in the eighties. That was a lot
of monet It was a lot of money.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
That's a lot of money. Yeah, So it was.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It was such an exciting time. I mean, that was
those years were so full for me of my sons,
my marriage, my work, my career, my singing. You know,
all of these things that were going on for me
were just and also, I mean I sang on the Oscars,
I sang two nominated songs. You sang two nominated songs
(04:54):
nineteen seventy eight. Oh look at you, research girl, well,
research girl, because you also sang Handle on the Water. Yes,
I remember that it wasn't as I watched that and
that I loved that that song, and there were the
two Disney songs were now I have a little I
have a story about everything else.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Sorry, you're just gonna have to put them on me.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
But it's one of my favorite songs. Love the movie.
Wasn't it a sweet song? Gorgeous song? And I remember
your candle wash start that again because I was talking
I'll be your candle woo.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Is a sweet, sweet song. So now, Marty Passetta, who
is the godfather for my son Brennan, booked me to
sing and he unthinkingly me with the high heels and
the long dress. Put me at the top of forty
three stairs, a lot of stairs in that show that
I had to walk down. See, I know, forty three
(05:50):
stairs I had to walk down. And you can't look
down because he had me singing from the top. So
I have to now walk down these stairs looking at
the audience, not looking at the stairs. And I was
good all day. I was backstage. You know, they had
some makeup, but I did my own makeup and hair,
and I went and checked in with them, and I
got my dress on and I go backstage and I'm
(06:11):
calm and everything is good. And they escort me up
to the top of this platform with the forty three
stairs and the curtains open, and Bob Hope is introducing
me who I'd gone to Vietnam with, you know, well
around the world USO tour and all of that. And
then I look and there's Jane Fonda and her father sitting,
Henry Fonda sitting in the front row, and Jack Lemon
(06:33):
and I look and I went black. I went blank.
I just if you say what's your name? I couldn't
have said just And I thought, oh my god, what's
the first line? I can't know And I couldn't think
of the first line. And We're going live to a
billion people and I'm standing there and my heart is
and okay, I went, Gloria, you didn't come this far.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Just screw it.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Up now, open your mouth sing, and the intro came,
and I had been rehearsing it up to just the
moment before I came on stage, but then it all
left me for that mere moment when the panic set
in and I opened my mouth and be brave little one,
(07:19):
and I started, Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Thank god, I got just remembering the moment, Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
And I finished, and I was I was really nervous,
but I did. Okay, I did all right, but oh
my god. Can you imagine in front of a billion people?
Maybe not, there's no do over, there's no due over.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Live y d.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Dum dum dud dum dum dum dum dum dum dum.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
You know, I mean, wow, wow, no pressure, there no pressure,
all right?
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Can we go to some of the eighties shows that
you were on? Okay, it looks like you were on hotel.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yeah. Yeah, that was tough.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That was really tough for me with Barbiestreisen's husband, Kim
James Land, thank you so much. It's been a long time.
He was wonderful. He was very welcoming that I had
a really tough scene. I had to lie I think
about him sexually assaulting me, and so I had to
(08:24):
do this scene. And I didn't at that time have
the emotional depth to know how to understand that entirely,
but I just knew I had to come up with
this kind of.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Scattered interior.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And I took myself to someone I knew who had
been a friend who had committed suicide. And after the
fact we found out things that were going on in
her life. She had an abusive boyfriend who was she
had lost a child. There was just a series of
tragic and I thought, I thought of her, and I thought,
(09:04):
what did she feel like? And I just sort of
tried to tap into and it was a good scene.
There was one moment where I looked over and you
could see that this woman was not okay. Something just
identifying with her and what she must have felt just
before she committed suicide came to me. That emptiness that
(09:26):
lost terrified, just not in my body, and so thank goodness,
I was able to at least access that because of
her tragedy. But that's sometimes what we do with acting,
you know, we know someone where we recall a moment
of our own, we identify with the emotional wreckage that
(09:48):
happened at that time. So yeah, that was very powerful.
He was so kind. But that was a tough scene
and I had to do it again and again. I
just kept saying, she said, you can do this, can
do this. Let's do it again. And then I said,
what do I know about this? What do I know
about someone being completely lost?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Yeah, and then I'm curious also about the TV movies
that you did. You did one with Ane Jillian I did. Yeah,
she is such a deer. Oh she's such a dear.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Now had you worked with because she's a singer too.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
No, I hadn't, and I played her sister and she
had gone to prison. I think it was Yeah, Yeah,
that was a good experience. I was a little out
of my league there. I was a little uncertain, but.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
I think it wound up. Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You know some things you feel like, I really got
to handle on this, and some you have to kind
of claw your way because you're on the spot and
you have to come up with it.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
So you do the best you can.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Convicted a mother's story, Yes, there it is. Yeah, she
went to jail for her boyfriend. First of the Hallmark movies.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yes, but it's funny because we've covered It's a Living
on the show, talked about that sitcom that that Angelian started.
And then you also did a TV movie with Angie Dickinson,
a police story.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I didn't get to meet her, but I did it
with Oh goshd Grenna.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
I played his wife. He was He was so funny.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
At one point we're doing a scene and we're outside
and he's a policeman and I'm the wife and I'm
upset with him or I need him to do something
or whatever. And I said, Okay, where's my market? So
you stand here and he and he said to the director, yeah, get.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
The light on her. Just just bounce the light off
a rock for me.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
He just kept it all so light. He was a celestre.
And murder she wrote what did you do? On Murdership?
Do you remember you did a murder? She wrote, Oh
I did? What did I do?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That was another one of those that I'm really pulling
you back? And I know I'd have to go see
that again. What it was called weave a tangle web? Yeah,
I probably was lying about something.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Again, That's what women got to do. You played Margo Bowman.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Yeah, you know, I don't remember I remember. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I remember her Angela on the other side of the
camera because but I had to have my eyeline to her,
but the camera was right next to her face, so
they're getting my eyes. Yeah, And I remember delivering the
lines with her, but I don't remember what I said.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I don't remember the storyline.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
There have been a couple of things I've done over
the years. Listen, you've done a lot. You've done, You've
packed it in.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
There's a lot of data, ye trillion bits and extra
trillion bits of information.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
So who did you love working with? Who did I
love working with? Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
My goodness, well, Joe Allison, as I said on Days
of Our Lives. Yeah, I loved working with Marty Davitch,
the piano player on Days of our Lives. He was
so wonderful. He just passed recently and I was so
sad to see that. But I did go to the
funeral for a memorial. No, I think it was a
nicual funeral for Bill Hayes. And I got to see
(13:02):
so many of the people I hadn't seen in years.
And I got to see Beth I hadn't seen her
in years, and Marty Davige was there, and I just said,
you know, you were such such a blessing to me.
His piano playing was always so intuitive, and he listened
so beautifully, and he came up with chord structures. I mean,
we worked together on things to make them just a
little different. And yeah, I loved him. What else I
(13:25):
don't know. I mean there were lots of things that
were great. You know, I'd have to I'd go look
through my scraps.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Well, speaking of days, how did it feel to be
back for those episodes for the funeral for Bill Hayes's character, right?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You know?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
That was very touching.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It was not a nostalgia tour because so many of
the people actors were different, and I had not you know,
it would have been a bustman's holiday. I never watched
the show because I was busy with children and doing
the show. I'm you know, years later, maybe I saw
an episode here there, so I just had to assume
if the director said cut, okay, I guess I delivered,
(14:03):
you know. And the studio was all different, so it's
not like I went back to a familiar place. I
kept getting I kept getting lost in the studio. Okay,
all right, well, okay, thank you, Gloria, and I go
where do I?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
What?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
What?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
All? Right?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
A left?
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Not?
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Where am I now?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It was this wonderful puzzle of sense and everybody was
really nice. But you know what it was. It was
It was not the joy it had been. It was
just different. It was very, very different. It was a
twelve hour day. I was on my feet because we
actually taped two episodes in one day.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, so I was there one day but got paid
for the two episodes when I got the check and went, wow, okay, you.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Know, but it was fun.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I get to see Maggie and I got to work
with Marie Cheatham.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Marie oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'd never worked with her, but she was playing Marie,
the original Marie. But I I worked with the secondary
Lona Saunders. Okay, so when I was on the show,
Marie Cheatham had left and a lot of Saunders was
now Marie. And we had this scene and she when
she looked at me, it was like daggers. Oh my god.
(15:15):
She gave me everything I needed to just just stand
right up to her. And the most fun of all
was we had to do the scene just to quick
quick because everything was quick. Now everything's quick a couple
of times. And there was one line I has where
she says, oh, you're gonna shoot me again, and I said,
I've told you it was an accident. And I took
(15:38):
that from real life. I had somebody who I had
explained again and again and again about something, Well you
did you don't understand, and I had said it wasn't
you know I had done that, and so I used
that voice and it was like, that's so fun. You
got to pull from what you know. But Marie was fabulous,
(16:00):
Oh my gosh. And since then I've seen her. Actually
went and we had lunch together. We went and had
Mexican food together. And I saw her home and she
does ceramics, beautiful ceramics. She has a website she sells
her ceramics and everything. And she gave me a little
when you put your tea bag in this, like it
looks like a little teapot with a flower painted on it. Oh,
so I have that at home and I like that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
That's very so cool.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
All right, let's go back to songwriting. Okay, Oh like writing.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Some television theme songs, well I didn't write write them.
I mean Alan was and when Alan was at CBC.
He wrote special material music all the time, so he
had that. You know, it's like what I said about acting.
If you only act every six months, you're going to
be you need to be working your craft. If you're
a piano player, you need to be playing at least
every couple of days. And Alan was always writing. He
(16:46):
wrote a number of theme songs. Norman Lear and his
wife were actually at our home for a party and
you know, and Norman call and we got a new
show and I'm going to have the producer call. You
want you to write a theme song for it? It was
Facts of Life, and so he said, come on, come on,
because I was working on trying to write some songs,
come on, come on, and we're going to do this together.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
So I was there and we.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Were going back and forth, but you know, he was
really the special material writer. But it was great fun
to be part and I got my name on it
and then I recorded it sort of as a demo
to what they had done. Then they decided to have
Charlotte the actress who played Charlotte Ray, Yeah, Charlotte Ray
for season one for season one, and then they decided
(17:30):
to use my version.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
So Yeah, that was.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
That was And who was the other were you? Were
you part of the because there was Charlotte Ray and
somebody else singing it in season one?
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Yeah, I wasn't part of that.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They just went back to my demo and said, you
know what, this sounds good, let's use this. So yeah,
and there's a couple of different lyric changes they well
he wrote, remember they only used like thirty to sixty
second maybe sixty seconds, so he wrote, he wrote a
whole song. Oh okay, now there's a time you got
to go and show you're going. Now you know about
out the facts of life, the facts of life, you know,
(18:02):
so we're all bopping.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Our heads now you can't see.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
It's so sticky, I know.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
But he was.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That was. He was great and I got to be
a part of that and it was great fun. I'm
still getting residuals, yeah, excellent, because I didn't get alimony,
but I got residual.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Residuals.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And so what was your involvement in different strokes?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Were you?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Because you have a you know what.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I didn't actually write on that.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I don't know that that actually says I was one
of the writers unless Alan put me. But I don't
remember ever seeing a residual for different It says on
IMDb that you were We'll just let that okay, thank you.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Do you get any residuals? Not that I have ever seen,
so I am might be wrong, okay occasionally.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
But so when you go in to do something like
that and you're just like, oh, I'm going to sing
the demo? I mean, is that like, you know, an
hour of work.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Well, it can be.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You know, you run through the band, you get all
the levels set, you know, you take a run through. Okay,
let's try that again, give us a little more punch
in the first chorus, you know, or you know, you
try a couple of times and maybe you lay on
a little harmony. Or it can take a couple of hours, yeah,
two three hours. Usually a session was three hours from
what I remember.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Yeah, and then and then you know, you can do
that to a hundred songs and then suddenly one of
them is affectible.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well exactly, you know, I mean, it's just like being
an actress. You know, you go out and there's seventy
three other actresses, all your age, all looking fine, all
running their lines.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
You know, so yeah, so there it is. Do you
get sick of singing it because you just lovely? Well,
I haven't sung at it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I mean that little bit I just did is probably
the most I've sung it in the last ten years.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
But lovely.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Because I'm because it did it change anything for you,
like the facts of life, because it was so big
and it's lasted.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So long, Well, it didn't change anything. Accept it added
to my resume certainly, and people now because of the
thing that changed everything for me was friends and Lovers.
And I remember when that got to number one on
the Adult Contemporary charts. That's what the chart was back then.
Somebody said to me, you know, they can never take.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
That away from you, that you had a number one hint.
I said, yeah, that's right, that's That'll always be mine.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yay, you know, But that didn't change anything for me
as such. I mean, it was just fun and we
made money from it, and it was, you know, fun
to hear my voice on television. But I've been hearing
my voice on television till since I was twenty one,
you know, that's when I did the MERV Griffin Show,
so you know, but it was great, it was great
(20:44):
I've had a great life.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
The research and diabetes, you guys accomplished a lot. There's
been so many advances.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yes, there have, and there are so many people. There
are hundreds of thousands of people who've worked their butts
off in local chapters and raising money and walks and gallas,
and you know, it's been an amazing thing, and also
supporting the research at the NIH National Institutes of Health.
I hope they don't keep cutting scientific research right now.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
It's just it's a horror.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But as parents, we're afraid that our children won't make it.
I remember when Brennan was diagnosed and I was in
the hospital and I was doing an education course and
the nurse said, okay, in this, and she said, I
want to show you where you'll inject your son. And
they showed me a chart with a little body, a
little stick figure, not stick figure, but line drawing of
a body and all these little holes on his arms
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and legs and stomach. And I went ah, and I
thought it was going to black out, and I said,
I need to go out. And I went out in
the room and I slid down the wall and just
sat there and sobbed.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
And she came out. She said, I know, it's a lot.
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
And at the time that Brennan was diagnosed, I was
told he'd be lucky to live twenty more years. And
he was four and a half. He's now fifty. He
takes good care of himself. There are some things he
could do better.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
But I'm a mom. You're a MoMA. Yes, I can
hear my mom saying the same thing.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
But he has two beautiful children and a wonderful wife.
Was one of my dear friends, Miss Dolly, And you know,
he made it this far, and we have to be grateful.
He's very cognizant of the difficulty of maybe living another
twenty twenty five years and seeing his own children married,
and this and that and the other. But it's a
fear in him and he speaks of it occasionally, and
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I understand that, you know. Yeah, I mean, I've outlived
my mother and my grandmother at this point, so I go.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Yeah, wow, wow, I love longer than them, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
But I made a decision a long time ago that
I would not go on my mother's route. She smoked
for thirty years then she stopped, God bless her. But
she'd never watched what she ate. She never exercised. She
took drugs for years, drugship side effects, you know. And
her mother died of stroke. My mother died of heart failure,
a congestive heart failure. Well, actually this is a funny story.
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I was at a hotel in San Bernardino because I
lived in the mountains in Lake Arrowhead, and I had
flown back in and I thought, and there was fog
up on the mountain. I said, I am not driving
home at ten o'clock at night in fog. So I
got a hotel room and I think I'll drive home
in the morning. And I thought, I'm really hungry, and
I ordered a Chinese chicken salad which has vinegar on it.
And I have used an iravetic diet for a long time.
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And at like three in the morning, I get this, oh,
this like squeezy thing in myugh. I didn't realize it
was acid reflux. I didn't know that I'd never had it.
And I'm thinking, oh my god, what is that? And
then I felt a little nauseous, and I thought, wait
a minute, let me you know, you go to doctor
Google and doctor heart. A heart attack in women, nausea
squeezy feeling, whatever that is, and I'm going, oh my god, okay, okay,
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what am I going to do?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
And I called my husband.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
And he wasn't answering the phone, and so I'm in
San Bernardino with my car and I thought, okay, I
am not going to call nine one one, and the
squeezy kind of subsided and I'm sitting there and I
had taught yoga for a number of years, and I
was very conscientious about my body and my keeping in
touch with myself. And I thought, okay, I'm not feeling
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that feeling right now. Is my head clear? My head
is clear, my body's clear. All right, I'm going to
start driving home. And I got in the right lane
and drove fifty five miles an hour for forty five
minutes back to our house in Los Peelis and which
prompted my son Robin to say, what are you and
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Navy seal? But I thought I was in the far
right lane. If anything happened, I'd pull over and call
nine one one, you know. But I didn't feel a plan.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I have a plan. You got to have a plan.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
So anyway, I get and I drive up to the
Glendale Hospital there the Dignity Health and I drive in.
I've been calm as can be. And I drive up
and I'm calm and I'm a resolute and I get
my person, I've got my idea, and I've got my
insurance card. And I go up to the door and
they say, we are a cardiac care unit.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
And I go, oh, this is so nice of them.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
And how are you feeling. You're like you've been driving
for an hour?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Question.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I was like, oh, but I was very you know,
very calm and very Okay, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Oh, but then compassion, all you have to do is
be somebody who's really holding together.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I'm so so.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I know, I know, isn't anyway. So I was like, okay,
go in there. And I said, look, I've been having
some chest pain. And she said, okay, do you have
your insurance card? Yes, give me that. Get in there,
Get in there, get on get on a table.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
We'll be right there.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Okay, let's take a break. We'll be right back with
more of our fabulous conversation with the amazing Gloria Loring.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And we're back and it's like three point thirty four
o'clock in the morning and I go in and they
do every possible test. They do an EKG, they do
an EEG, they do an echo cardigram, and they take
blood and they say, okay, all of those are clear,
but trapponin is elevated.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
A tripponin is a hormone.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
That sometimes appears elevated if you've had a heart attack.
So they said, okay, we're going to keep you overnight.
And now it's you know, in the morning, and they
put me in a room and they're gonna do We're
gonna do and what.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Is that called. It's a I can't.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Test it angiogram and jogram.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Thank you angiogram. Look and listen.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
If you're asking us about these stars, do it.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
But this is Machael.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
This is I'm very impressive anyway, and I had.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
It and I can't think of it anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And they put a little tiny cut in your in
your artery or veane or something in your leg, and
then they thread a little tiny camera.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
It's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
So I'm in there and I'm lying there and there's
a monitor up to my left, and they put a
curtain in front of you so you don't see what
they're doing.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
And had.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
He had said, now you know, we're going to do
this today and we're going to get you started on
statins and espernon with your family history. I said, no,
just a minute. Let's get the diagnostics first, and then
we'll figure out what we do. I've been following a plan.
At that time, it was twenty five years, I said,
because this is about ten years, not even ten years ago.
And I said, I've been following a plan ancient medicine
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with herbs and diet, and let's let's see what the
results is. Then we'll figure out what I do because
I'm not taking statins anyway. The first thing I did
in the morning was called my irovetic doctor and I said, look,
I'm in the hospital. I had this and blah blah.
He said, it's okay, let them do what they want
to do. When you get out, we'll fix it. I said, okay,
thank you. And he had done that with a number
of things with me supposedly nobody could fix, and he
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fixed them anyway. So now I'm sitting there and I'm
on I'm lying there and stretched out and they're doing
what they're doing, and.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
I'm looking at my heart.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
I'm looking at my own heart beating in my body,
keeping me alive. And I just had this huge wave
of gratitude and I was tears streaming down. It's tears
of joy and gratitude streaming down my face, saying, oh
my God, look at you. You're so beautiful and you've
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been doing this for me all my life and you're
just working away in there, and I'm so glad. I
thought to do things to take care of you. I
hope will be okay, and I'm sending this love and everything.
And he comes around. He comes around the little curtain
and he says, Okay, I don't know what that herbal
doctor is doing for you, but you have no plaque
in your arteries anywhere.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I said, okay, proof of concept, proof of concept. Peace out.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
And I had to wait.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
They brought me a lunch, which was beef slice. I'm
a cardiac care person and you're giving me beef anyway,
So I said, I can't eat this. Just bring me,
bring me pudding or something fine. But that was so reassuring,
and I thought maybe that was what that's a purpose.
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I don't say there's a reason for everything, but we
can find the reason that resonates for us. You know,
I've done many, many years of spiritual inquiry and meditation
and reading, and I read about all the different religions
and everything, and there's a continuum within them. There's a
coherence between all the basic religions. First of all, all
of them say, don't treat anybody anyway you wouldn't want
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to be treated, do unto others, or don't do unto
others what you wouldn't want to. So that's my religion is, Yeah,
don't tell me what you believe, show me who you are.
That's for me anyway. So that was that was like
this great reassurance that I've been doing the right thing
all this time, and so maybe I will live to
ninety three and be at that thirty My grandson gets
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married at thirty, which is fifteen more years.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Because my step kids that are nine and eleven years
older than our youngest. Oh, and so my mom was
at their graduate high school graduations, and about ten years ago,
Dashell was like, are you going to be at mike graduation?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And my mom was like, I'm going to try.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I told Julian when he said and I said, okay,
I have a mission statement.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Thank you very much. I have to live in ninety three.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
You had a book. Well, you're like seven books.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I wrote the cookbooks, I wrote the diabetes care books.
I wrote some little you know, taking care of yourself
when I was on days of our lives.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous. And many of
these stories about friends and lovers, and just because I
saw these these constant things, just I call them coincidings
that that well, I wanted to do this and wait,
well there it is right there, it's right, it's you know, expected,
And I have the expected miracle framed over my mirror
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vanity where I sit.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
You write the dear where it came from?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Did you ever learn?
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Never found out.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I don't know why someone walked into my room and
slipped that underneath my underneath my They didn't even leave
it on the vanity, underneath the bag.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
What the heck?
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Well, it sounds amazing, and we'll have to have another conversation,
maybe offline, because you knew my husband has a paranormal podcast,
and I've heard you talk about some paranormal experiences.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Experience spiritual experiences, Yeah, very powerful, some of them at
the Ashram I went to an ashram for many years
and during some of the programs and I went. When
I first went, I went to the ashroman and breakfast.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
He said, you have to wear your name. I'm Gloria Louring.
I don't wear a name. Ten Yeah, that's where.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That's who I was back then, you know, because I
need to be seen and known and anyway. And so
I learned everything.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
I learned. Humility, I learned.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
I learned a lot of things. I think singers need
a little diva in them. Sometimes, Oh you got it,
you got it. You got to know when to use
it and when to say sit on the side. And
right now, honeybody, you're not you're not needed right now.
This has been absolutely so much fun.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Thank you. So it was fun for you too, it
was We're so glad to hear that, because yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I remembered almost all the names you do. James Brolin, yes,
I remember his barbistreis and his husband, but I can't
remember his name other than that, you know, as long
as as I talked it.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Once said when I said I think I'm losing and said, listen,
losing your keys, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
No, I tell people look, I said, I can tell
it's in there, and I can feel it's like somebody
going through.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
The files, the file cabinet.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's in here, somewhere, it's in here, I said, in
twenty minutes, and I'll be doing I'll say, Stacy Keach.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
You know, twenty minutes later.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Ah, Okay, We're so grateful for all of your talent
and your soul.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
It's been really great to tell so much and really
appreciate you coming in.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
No, I like it, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
It's there's something for me better about being There's there's
an energy that flows here that gets interrupted by data
and screens and you know, just to be with you
and back and forth. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Well, when we started the podcast, we were still in
the process. We as the world were still coming out
of the pandemic. Yes, really it was a yeah that
we were able to do it over zoom as much
as we have, and also for those guests that we've
had that our back easter is somewhere else. It's it's fantastic,
but there's nothing like having it having somebody else.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah. Yeah, when when the pandemic first started, I called
my friend who was one more one more story.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
I'm sorry I'm just a font of today. What can
I tell you?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
WHOA Anyway, I was called again with the Juvenile Diabetes
Association by PR communications director Karen. She said, look, there's
a lady down in Tennessee and they're going to do it.
She's with American Heart Association and she's got diabetes and
she wants to do this event. And it was talking
about the relationship between heart disease and diabetes.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
And I said, well, that sounds like something up my alley.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
And then I talked to this lady, Deborah, and she
was so filled with enthusiasm and just so bright and cheerful,
and I thought, I love this lady. So anyway, I
wind up going down there to do this thing. And
it was kind of their gall it's in Bristol, Tennessee.
It's a tiny it's the Try Cities.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
She wanted to get Mary.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Tyler Moore, but of course Mary wasn't going to come
to Bristol, Tennessee. But Karen was very very good. Well,
you know, Mary's kind of busy, but you know what,
and she had had a dream the night before and
she saw she was watched Days of Our Lives occasionally
and the dream was it was Gloria Loring in profile
with a microphone in her hand, in a black dress
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with long sleeves and a scoop neck. And she said, oh,
you know, if Mary can't do it, maybe Gloria Lauring
can do it. That would be great because she's got
a son with diabeta. So now she's on the with Karen.
Karen says, well, Mary can't do it, and the next
thing out of us, let me call Gloria Laurence. So
now we're on the phone together and I go down
there and that night she is sitting on the side
(35:10):
of the stage and she sees me in profile with
the microphone in a black, long sleeve, scoop neck dress
and she goes, oh, that's what I saw on my
dream manifest. So I know that was nineteen ninety eight.
We are still now. When the COVID hit, I said, okay,
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I need to have people to talk to.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
I said, let's you.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
And I be a quarantine. Okay, quarantine, a quarantine. And
we called each other in the morning, how to sleep,
but you have for breakfast?
Speaker 6 (35:43):
What are you going to do today? What are you
going to bup?
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Up up?
Speaker 6 (35:45):
And then okay, bedtime. How you doing.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
How was your day? We still do that. We're still
doing that ever since COVID. We talk in the morning
and then we talk at night.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
That's so great.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
She's my quarantine.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
And you have how many grandkids sick six grandkids Robin has.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
We didn't even talk about Robin. I know we.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Have to give him extico.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Robin can talk about it. That's true.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
A lot of people know about Robin.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Robin is getting married the end of this month. He's
been with his fiance. Well, they lost their home, he
lost his father, he lost his mentor, and he lost
his manager, all in the course of one year. And
it was so and then she got pregnant, and then
the fire came. She was pregnant, then she had one baby,
then she was pregnant with the next one. Then the
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fire came, and then they lost their home. And she said,
and he said, we will get married at some point.
But now they have three children of their own, plus
Julian from his marriage to wonderful Paula Patten. And so,
as I said, I call them the thick lips, the
the little ones. They're seven, six and four, and they're
they're so cute. They run around like little scream with
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scooters through the living room. You know, Okay, don't hit Nana.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Don't hit Nana. Whatever you do, don't run over my feet.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Are they boys girls mixed?
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Mia is It sounds like an Italian movie. Mia is seven,
Lola is six, and Luca is four. It's an Italian movie.
I don't know how they got Italian names for these children.
And then Julian is fifteen now and he's from the
first marriage. And then my son Brennan has Tyler, who
is going to be seventeen next month in May, and
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he's six five and a half. Every time I walk
by and I say, you're just a giant child, really
a giant child anyway. And then they adopted Darling Cheyenne,
who came into their life when she was twenty months
old and her mother was drug addicted and the judge
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had told her, if you will just complete your rehab
and get out of this abusive relationship, you can keep
this daughter. She'd already given away a couple of children
because she'd had them taken away because she was not
sufficiently in this life to take care of them. And
she quit rehab and married her abuser. Some of us
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can't let go of well it's familiar. It's like, this
is what I deserve, this is what should happen, you know.
I mean we all can understand that on some level.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
So when they brought they said, we have a little girl.
We need to place her tonight. She needs a place
to stay. And Dolly had already gotten like a crib
and stuff waiting because she wanted a daughter. She had
had preclampsia and etcetera. And she said, you know, I
don't want to take another chance. She was in her
late thirties and et cetera. So they brought they bring Cheyenne,
Little Cheyenne, and Dolly Bin's already she says, Hi, my
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name is mommy, and this is daddy.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
Taking no chances. We're to get right in there, and.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
She is, Oh my god, she is such a joy.
She's so funny. She used to call me last year
because her mom was working, and so mom would leave
Andaddy would then walk her to school. But she'd call
me like it's seven fifteen in the morning. She'd call
me say, hi, Nana, she's got a fine she Hi, Nana,
you want to watch me dance. Sure, seven fifteen, okay, sure,
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and it was it was always it was different music.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
I got a new song, but it was always the
same dance.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
It was elbows out and you know, like like she
had moroccas in her hands, and you know she is,
she's so sweet. We go we have girls afternoons and
we go to CPK. We have a system, and then
we go to a movie PG movie and she sits there.
She puts her head on my shoulder and kisses my cheek.
She's just the sweetest little girl. She's she's going to
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at some point get snarchy because she's going to be
a teenager.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
But it's okay. I've had I've had lots of sweetness,
so I can I.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Can handle it.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I remember when somebody told me, I said, wait till
your son turns thirteen. He's going to lose his mind
and you are going to be the stupidest person on
the planet until he's about nineteen or twenty. I said, okay,
thank you for warning me. Just after his thirteenth birthday,
he walked into the It was the eighties, right, you know,
the big hair and all that. He walked into the
kitchen and he looked at me and said, Mom, why
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do you have to wear those big belts? And I went,
oh it started, Oh it started, Okay, I remember it
would be stupid for about six years.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
I remember with our oldest I walked in.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
I was like, because this used to be just a garage,
but the gaming system was out here, and I was like,
you can't be on the gaming system to you take.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Up the trash. And the look that I got he
could have killed me. It was Owen and I was
like here.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
I turned around and I was like, oh my god,
that's it.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
There it is they will Owen will not like me.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I had a sign I printed out on my refrigerator
and says, teenagers tired of parents and teachers pushing you around.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Move out now while you still know everything. Oh my gosh.
But they're all delightful. They are they are.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Then they grow up, then they know what you went through.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
It's all such fun.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Good.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yeah, we're very I'm so blessed by your joy.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Thank you. It's a gift.
Speaker 6 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I told you everything was fine, except I had a
car I didn't like and I was I needed to
lose weight, and I got a new car and I'm
doing the other one very successfully.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
So all right, well.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
I'm going to say you look fabulous, so I think
you's it great as gar but.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
You do you so.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
This is great fun.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Thank you so much, what joy, Thank you very much,
such a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
For today's audiography. You can find Gloria Loring on her
website Gloria Loring dot com and she's also on Instagram
as Gloria Loring All one word.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
You can also currently watch there's two seasons of the
Facts of Life for free on two B Now the
Facts of Life, Sharon is moving around like every time
we do a little thing of where you can find it,
I go to make sure it's still there, and it's
like it's like the I don't know, it's like a
little minnows running away. Season four is over here. Season
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one is no longer available, but if you search for
it you can find it places. Sometimes you'll have to pay,
but you can watch the first two, season two, and
season three on to Be for free.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
So and it's possible if you're someone that still has
cable or has an over the air antenna, there may
be some channels where that they are showing the Facts
of Life.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
So because it is kind of ubiquitous sometimes.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
And you can find the DVDs on eBay.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
There you go. Absolutely. You can also listen to Gloria's autobiography,
which is called Coincidence is God's Way of Remaining Anonymous.
It's about her life and time as a soap oper star.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
It's available on Audible, which, by the way, you can
also listen to eighties TV Ladies podcast on Audible. I
just found that out today. Would have been nice if
they let us know, so we could let you know.
But so how, it's magically on Audible. No one told us.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
But it's available for free on Audible, So if you
have an Audible account, you don't have to use a
credit or pay for it.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
You can just listen in.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
There's so many choices. Wherever you want to listen, please
continue to enjoy.
Speaker 6 (43:38):
But wherever you do listen, please give us a rating
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I'm just saying, even if you don't listen to Apple podcasts,
run over there, hit play for like one minute, and
then give us a five star rating. I mean, if
you're just doing things, just do it that way.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
Sounds like a plan. To me, Eighties TV ladies, I
bet you're wondering what's coming up next. Get ready for
the nineties TV babies take on the Facts of life.
This one is gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I cannot wait.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Also, we're just about to wrap up season three, can
you believe it? And once again we'll be taking a
hiatus for most of the summer. But don't worry. Just
like eighties TV, we'll be doing reruns of our most
popular episodes, so you'll be able to catch up on
some of the ones you missed. We're wishing you a
beautiful summer, and.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
I forgot to fill that in.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
And William just cut it off after We're.
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Wishing you a beautiful summer to Sharon.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Oh my god, But.
Speaker 6 (44:53):
Sharon, what are we going to do for season four?
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
We haven't announced it yet, but I do you know,
we can tell you one of the shows we were
going to be covering, because we're going to kick off
season four with a look at one of the greatest
eighties TV ladies shows of all time.
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Well, I guess of the eighties really the brass ring
of Eighties ladies, the Golden Girls.
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Speaker 4 (00:38):
Hi, Eighties TV Ladies, Welcome to part two of our
great conversation with the fabulous Gloria Loring. I know we've
made you wait a little bit, but trust me, it's
gonna be worth it.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
There's so many great stories enjoy.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
I'll start again.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
I'm used to very good at that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Pro so I went into Days of our Lives. I
think it was a Friday morning, and I was first up.
When you're first up, that means you're scenes. You can
make a request. If they can accommodate it, they will.
And I was flying to Houston and I needed to
get there that night because I was participating in a
celebrity tennis tournament for diabetes research. So I'm first up,
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and I come in and I put my I always
had my carry bag with my own makeup and my
shoes and Jimmy Stewart when someone said, what's the most
important thing about acting?
Speaker 6 (01:32):
He said, bring your own shoes. My own shoes.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So anyway, I put the bag on the chair next
to the table, the little vanity table, and I did
my day, and I had the script and I did everything.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
At the end of the day, I got dressed.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I had to catch a limo or something to the airport.
And I picked up the bag and under the bag
was a little card that said expect a miracle.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Huh wow.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And I looked and I thought, well, this wasn't for
this morning. This well, this isn't mine. And a little
voice or sense in my head said, don't throw away
a card that says expect a miracle. And I took
that card and I threw it in my carry bag
and I thought, well, and I go to Houston and
a bunch of us were there. It was celebrities. So
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we each sang a song or two or told some
jokes or whatever. And I get up on stage and
I do that, and as I'm coming down this side
ramp off the stage, there's a man standing there and
he says, Hi, I'm Ben and I'm from Beaumont, Texas.
And he said, I loved your singing to night and
I didn't realize you had a child with diabetes. And
say said, yeah, my son is now six or whatever
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it was, that was seven at that time. And I
hear a voice in my head say, tell him about
the cookbook. And now, by the way, at this point,
I had all the recipes collected, I had a free
graphic artist who had designed everything, and it was all
ready to go to press. But I had no money.
I had asked people I'd lost NBA. See, I'd ask
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all these people. Nobody would support the project. And I
hear again, tell them about the cookbook. I'm thinking, okay,
And he said, so, so what do you you're hearing
you know about the diabetes research?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
I said, yes, I do it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You know, I'm doing this cookbook and I've got you know,
we have ten million viewers on days of our lives,
and I've got recipes collected, and I really think the
fans would love a cookbook from their favorite people. And
he said yeah, he said that sounds like a good idea.
And I said, I just I need some sponsors. I
need some people to help me with the funding. And
he said, well, how much.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Do you need?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I said, well, I need fifty thousand dollars so I
can print fifty thousand copies. He said, well, hell, I'll
give you ten. He said, come on, let's go out
in the lobby. I got friends here tonight. By the
time I finished that night, I had seventeen five hundred
dollars committed. Within a month, I had all fifty thousand
dollars committed and checks coming in. We printed that first volume,
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volume one of Days of Our Lives celebrity cookbook. We
sold out. We had another fifty thousand we printed because
now we had collected enough money. And what you did
is you sent ten dollars donation and as a thank you,
we sent you. So we weren't selling it. It was
it was a gift. Yes, yeah, so we gave that.
We sold that, and then I did volume two. We
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sold out of almost all of those also, and all
together we earned over a million dollars for diabetes research.
Now this is in the eighties. That was a lot
of monet It was a lot of money.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
That's a lot of money. Yeah, So it was.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It was such an exciting time. I mean, that was
those years were so full for me of my sons,
my marriage, my work, my career, my singing. You know,
all of these things that were going on for me
were just and also, I mean I sang on the Oscars,
I sang two nominated songs. You sang two nominated songs
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nineteen seventy eight. Oh look at you, research girl, well,
research girl, because you also sang Handle on the Water. Yes,
I remember that it wasn't as I watched that and
that I loved that that song, and there were the
two Disney songs were now I have a little I
have a story about everything else.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Sorry, you're just gonna have to put them on me.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
But it's one of my favorite songs. Love the movie.
Wasn't it a sweet song? Gorgeous song? And I remember
your candle wash start that again because I was talking
I'll be your candle woo.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Is a sweet, sweet song. So now, Marty Passetta, who
is the godfather for my son Brennan, booked me to
sing and he unthinkingly me with the high heels and
the long dress. Put me at the top of forty
three stairs, a lot of stairs in that show that
I had to walk down. See, I know, forty three
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stairs I had to walk down. And you can't look
down because he had me singing from the top. So
I have to now walk down these stairs looking at
the audience, not looking at the stairs. And I was
good all day. I was backstage. You know, they had
some makeup, but I did my own makeup and hair,
and I went and checked in with them, and I
got my dress on and I go backstage and I'm
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calm and everything is good. And they escort me up
to the top of this platform with the forty three
stairs and the curtains open, and Bob Hope is introducing
me who I'd gone to Vietnam with, you know, well
around the world USO tour and all of that. And
then I look and there's Jane Fonda and her father sitting,
Henry Fonda sitting in the front row, and Jack Lemon
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and I look and I went black. I went blank.
I just if you say what's your name? I couldn't
have said just And I thought, oh my god, what's
the first line? I can't know And I couldn't think
of the first line. And We're going live to a
billion people and I'm standing there and my heart is
and okay, I went, Gloria, you didn't come this far.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Just screw it.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Up now, open your mouth sing, and the intro came,
and I had been rehearsing it up to just the
moment before I came on stage, but then it all
left me for that mere moment when the panic set
in and I opened my mouth and be brave little one,
(07:19):
and I started, Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Thank god, I got just remembering the moment, Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
And I finished, and I was I was really nervous,
but I did. Okay, I did all right, but oh
my god. Can you imagine in front of a billion people?
Maybe not, there's no do over, there's no due over.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Live y d.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Dum dum dud dum dum dum dum dum dum dum.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
You know, I mean, wow, wow, no pressure, there no pressure,
all right?
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Can we go to some of the eighties shows that
you were on? Okay, it looks like you were on hotel.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yeah. Yeah, that was tough.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That was really tough for me with Barbiestreisen's husband, Kim
James Land, thank you so much. It's been a long time.
He was wonderful. He was very welcoming that I had
a really tough scene. I had to lie I think
about him sexually assaulting me, and so I had to
(08:24):
do this scene. And I didn't at that time have
the emotional depth to know how to understand that entirely,
but I just knew I had to come up with
this kind of.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Scattered interior.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And I took myself to someone I knew who had
been a friend who had committed suicide. And after the
fact we found out things that were going on in
her life. She had an abusive boyfriend who was she
had lost a child. There was just a series of
tragic and I thought, I thought of her, and I thought,
(09:04):
what did she feel like? And I just sort of
tried to tap into and it was a good scene.
There was one moment where I looked over and you
could see that this woman was not okay. Something just
identifying with her and what she must have felt just
before she committed suicide came to me. That emptiness that
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lost terrified, just not in my body, and so thank goodness,
I was able to at least access that because of
her tragedy. But that's sometimes what we do with acting,
you know, we know someone where we recall a moment
of our own, we identify with the emotional wreckage that
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happened at that time. So yeah, that was very powerful.
He was so kind. But that was a tough scene
and I had to do it again and again. I
just kept saying, she said, you can do this, can
do this. Let's do it again. And then I said,
what do I know about this? What do I know
about someone being completely lost?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Yeah, and then I'm curious also about the TV movies
that you did. You did one with Ane Jillian I did. Yeah,
she is such a deer. Oh she's such a dear.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Now had you worked with because she's a singer too.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
No, I hadn't, and I played her sister and she
had gone to prison. I think it was Yeah, Yeah,
that was a good experience. I was a little out
of my league there. I was a little uncertain, but.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
I think it wound up. Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You know some things you feel like, I really got
to handle on this, and some you have to kind
of claw your way because you're on the spot and
you have to come up with it.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
So you do the best you can.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Convicted a mother's story, Yes, there it is. Yeah, she
went to jail for her boyfriend. First of the Hallmark movies.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yes, but it's funny because we've covered It's a Living
on the show, talked about that sitcom that that Angelian started.
And then you also did a TV movie with Angie Dickinson,
a police story.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I didn't get to meet her, but I did it
with Oh goshd Grenna.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
I played his wife. He was He was so funny.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
At one point we're doing a scene and we're outside
and he's a policeman and I'm the wife and I'm
upset with him or I need him to do something
or whatever. And I said, Okay, where's my market? So
you stand here and he and he said to the director, yeah, get.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
The light on her. Just just bounce the light off
a rock for me.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
He just kept it all so light. He was a celestre.
And murder she wrote what did you do? On Murdership?
Do you remember you did a murder? She wrote, Oh
I did? What did I do?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That was another one of those that I'm really pulling
you back? And I know I'd have to go see
that again. What it was called weave a tangle web? Yeah,
I probably was lying about something.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Again, That's what women got to do. You played Margo Bowman.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Yeah, you know, I don't remember I remember. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I remember her Angela on the other side of the
camera because but I had to have my eyeline to her,
but the camera was right next to her face, so
they're getting my eyes. Yeah, And I remember delivering the
lines with her, but I don't remember what I said.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I don't remember the storyline.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
There have been a couple of things I've done over
the years. Listen, you've done a lot. You've done, You've
packed it in.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
There's a lot of data, ye trillion bits and extra
trillion bits of information.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
So who did you love working with? Who did I
love working with? Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
My goodness, well, Joe Allison, as I said on Days
of Our Lives. Yeah, I loved working with Marty Davitch,
the piano player on Days of our Lives. He was
so wonderful. He just passed recently and I was so
sad to see that. But I did go to the
funeral for a memorial. No, I think it was a
nicual funeral for Bill Hayes. And I got to see
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so many of the people I hadn't seen in years.
And I got to see Beth I hadn't seen her
in years, and Marty Davige was there, and I just said,
you know, you were such such a blessing to me.
His piano playing was always so intuitive, and he listened
so beautifully, and he came up with chord structures. I mean,
we worked together on things to make them just a
little different. And yeah, I loved him. What else I
(13:25):
don't know. I mean there were lots of things that
were great. You know, I'd have to I'd go look
through my scraps.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Well, speaking of days, how did it feel to be
back for those episodes for the funeral for Bill Hayes's character, right?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You know?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
That was very touching.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It was not a nostalgia tour because so many of
the people actors were different, and I had not you know,
it would have been a bustman's holiday. I never watched
the show because I was busy with children and doing
the show. I'm you know, years later, maybe I saw
an episode here there, so I just had to assume
if the director said cut, okay, I guess I delivered,
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you know. And the studio was all different, so it's
not like I went back to a familiar place. I
kept getting I kept getting lost in the studio. Okay,
all right, well, okay, thank you, Gloria, and I go
where do I?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
What?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
What?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
All? Right?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
A left?
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Not?
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Where am I now?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It was this wonderful puzzle of sense and everybody was
really nice. But you know what it was. It was
It was not the joy it had been. It was
just different. It was very, very different. It was a
twelve hour day. I was on my feet because we
actually taped two episodes in one day.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, so I was there one day but got paid
for the two episodes when I got the check and went, wow, okay, you.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Know, but it was fun.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I get to see Maggie and I got to work
with Marie Cheatham.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Marie oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'd never worked with her, but she was playing Marie,
the original Marie. But I I worked with the secondary
Lona Saunders. Okay, so when I was on the show,
Marie Cheatham had left and a lot of Saunders was
now Marie. And we had this scene and she when
she looked at me, it was like daggers. Oh my god.
(15:15):
She gave me everything I needed to just just stand
right up to her. And the most fun of all
was we had to do the scene just to quick
quick because everything was quick. Now everything's quick a couple
of times. And there was one line I has where
she says, oh, you're gonna shoot me again, and I said,
I've told you it was an accident. And I took
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that from real life. I had somebody who I had
explained again and again and again about something, Well you
did you don't understand, and I had said it wasn't
you know I had done that, and so I used
that voice and it was like, that's so fun. You
got to pull from what you know. But Marie was fabulous,
(16:00):
Oh my gosh. And since then I've seen her. Actually
went and we had lunch together. We went and had
Mexican food together. And I saw her home and she
does ceramics, beautiful ceramics. She has a website she sells
her ceramics and everything. And she gave me a little
when you put your tea bag in this, like it
looks like a little teapot with a flower painted on it. Oh,
so I have that at home and I like that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
That's very so cool.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
All right, let's go back to songwriting. Okay, Oh like writing.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Some television theme songs, well I didn't write write them.
I mean Alan was and when Alan was at CBC.
He wrote special material music all the time, so he
had that. You know, it's like what I said about acting.
If you only act every six months, you're going to
be you need to be working your craft. If you're
a piano player, you need to be playing at least
every couple of days. And Alan was always writing. He
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wrote a number of theme songs. Norman Lear and his
wife were actually at our home for a party and
you know, and Norman call and we got a new
show and I'm going to have the producer call. You
want you to write a theme song for it? It was
Facts of Life, and so he said, come on, come on,
because I was working on trying to write some songs,
come on, come on, and we're going to do this together.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
So I was there and we.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Were going back and forth, but you know, he was
really the special material writer. But it was great fun
to be part and I got my name on it
and then I recorded it sort of as a demo
to what they had done. Then they decided to have
Charlotte the actress who played Charlotte Ray, Yeah, Charlotte Ray
for season one for season one, and then they decided
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to use my version.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
So Yeah, that was.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
That was And who was the other were you? Were
you part of the because there was Charlotte Ray and
somebody else singing it in season one?
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Yeah, I wasn't part of that.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They just went back to my demo and said, you
know what, this sounds good, let's use this. So yeah,
and there's a couple of different lyric changes they well
he wrote, remember they only used like thirty to sixty
second maybe sixty seconds, so he wrote, he wrote a
whole song. Oh okay, now there's a time you got
to go and show you're going. Now you know about
out the facts of life, the facts of life, you know,
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so we're all bopping.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Our heads now you can't see.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
It's so sticky, I know.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
But he was.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That was. He was great and I got to be
a part of that and it was great fun. I'm
still getting residuals, yeah, excellent, because I didn't get alimony,
but I got residual.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Residuals.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And so what was your involvement in different strokes?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Were you?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Because you have a you know what.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I didn't actually write on that.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I don't know that that actually says I was one
of the writers unless Alan put me. But I don't
remember ever seeing a residual for different It says on
IMDb that you were We'll just let that okay, thank you.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Do you get any residuals? Not that I have ever seen,
so I am might be wrong, okay occasionally.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
But so when you go in to do something like
that and you're just like, oh, I'm going to sing
the demo? I mean, is that like, you know, an
hour of work.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Well, it can be.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You know, you run through the band, you get all
the levels set, you know, you take a run through. Okay,
let's try that again, give us a little more punch
in the first chorus, you know, or you know, you
try a couple of times and maybe you lay on
a little harmony. Or it can take a couple of hours, yeah,
two three hours. Usually a session was three hours from
what I remember.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Yeah, and then and then you know, you can do
that to a hundred songs and then suddenly one of
them is affectible.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well exactly, you know, I mean, it's just like being
an actress. You know, you go out and there's seventy
three other actresses, all your age, all looking fine, all
running their lines.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
You know, so yeah, so there it is. Do you
get sick of singing it because you just lovely? Well,
I haven't sung at it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I mean that little bit I just did is probably
the most I've sung it in the last ten years.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
But lovely.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Because I'm because it did it change anything for you,
like the facts of life, because it was so big
and it's lasted.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So long, Well, it didn't change anything. Accept it added
to my resume certainly, and people now because of the
thing that changed everything for me was friends and Lovers.
And I remember when that got to number one on
the Adult Contemporary charts. That's what the chart was back then.
Somebody said to me, you know, they can never take.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
That away from you, that you had a number one hint.
I said, yeah, that's right, that's That'll always be mine.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yay, you know, But that didn't change anything for me
as such. I mean, it was just fun and we
made money from it, and it was, you know, fun
to hear my voice on television. But I've been hearing
my voice on television till since I was twenty one,
you know, that's when I did the MERV Griffin Show,
so you know, but it was great, it was great
(20:44):
I've had a great life.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
The research and diabetes, you guys accomplished a lot. There's
been so many advances.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yes, there have, and there are so many people. There
are hundreds of thousands of people who've worked their butts
off in local chapters and raising money and walks and gallas,
and you know, it's been an amazing thing, and also
supporting the research at the NIH National Institutes of Health.
I hope they don't keep cutting scientific research right now.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
It's just it's a horror.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But as parents, we're afraid that our children won't make it.
I remember when Brennan was diagnosed and I was in
the hospital and I was doing an education course and
the nurse said, okay, in this, and she said, I
want to show you where you'll inject your son. And
they showed me a chart with a little body, a
little stick figure, not stick figure, but line drawing of
a body and all these little holes on his arms
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and legs and stomach. And I went ah, and I
thought it was going to black out, and I said,
I need to go out. And I went out in
the room and I slid down the wall and just
sat there and sobbed.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
And she came out. She said, I know, it's a lot.
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
And at the time that Brennan was diagnosed, I was
told he'd be lucky to live twenty more years. And
he was four and a half. He's now fifty. He
takes good care of himself. There are some things he
could do better.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
But I'm a mom. You're a MoMA. Yes, I can
hear my mom saying the same thing.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
But he has two beautiful children and a wonderful wife.
Was one of my dear friends, Miss Dolly, And you know,
he made it this far, and we have to be grateful.
He's very cognizant of the difficulty of maybe living another
twenty twenty five years and seeing his own children married,
and this and that and the other. But it's a
fear in him and he speaks of it occasionally, and
(22:39):
I understand that, you know. Yeah, I mean, I've outlived
my mother and my grandmother at this point, so I go.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Yeah, wow, wow, I love longer than them, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
But I made a decision a long time ago that
I would not go on my mother's route. She smoked
for thirty years then she stopped, God bless her. But
she'd never watched what she ate. She never exercised. She
took drugs for years, drugship side effects, you know. And
her mother died of stroke. My mother died of heart failure,
a congestive heart failure. Well, actually this is a funny story.
(23:12):
I was at a hotel in San Bernardino because I
lived in the mountains in Lake Arrowhead, and I had
flown back in and I thought, and there was fog
up on the mountain. I said, I am not driving
home at ten o'clock at night in fog. So I
got a hotel room and I think I'll drive home
in the morning. And I thought, I'm really hungry, and
I ordered a Chinese chicken salad which has vinegar on it.
And I have used an iravetic diet for a long time.
(23:33):
And at like three in the morning, I get this, oh,
this like squeezy thing in myugh. I didn't realize it
was acid reflux. I didn't know that I'd never had it.
And I'm thinking, oh my god, what is that? And
then I felt a little nauseous, and I thought, wait
a minute, let me you know, you go to doctor
Google and doctor heart. A heart attack in women, nausea
squeezy feeling, whatever that is, and I'm going, oh my god, okay, okay,
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what am I going to do?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
And I called my husband.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
And he wasn't answering the phone, and so I'm in
San Bernardino with my car and I thought, okay, I
am not going to call nine one one, and the
squeezy kind of subsided and I'm sitting there and I
had taught yoga for a number of years, and I
was very conscientious about my body and my keeping in
touch with myself. And I thought, okay, I'm not feeling
(24:20):
that feeling right now. Is my head clear? My head
is clear, my body's clear. All right, I'm going to
start driving home. And I got in the right lane
and drove fifty five miles an hour for forty five
minutes back to our house in Los Peelis and which
prompted my son Robin to say, what are you and
(24:41):
Navy seal? But I thought I was in the far
right lane. If anything happened, I'd pull over and call
nine one one, you know. But I didn't feel a plan.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I have a plan. You got to have a plan.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
So anyway, I get and I drive up to the
Glendale Hospital there the Dignity Health and I drive in.
I've been calm as can be. And I drive up
and I'm calm and I'm a resolute and I get
my person, I've got my idea, and I've got my
insurance card. And I go up to the door and
they say, we are a cardiac care unit.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
And I go, oh, this is so nice of them.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
And how are you feeling. You're like you've been driving
for an hour?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Question.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I was like, oh, but I was very you know,
very calm and very Okay, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Oh, but then compassion, all you have to do is
be somebody who's really holding together.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I'm so so.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I know, I know, isn't anyway. So I was like, okay,
go in there. And I said, look, I've been having
some chest pain. And she said, okay, do you have
your insurance card? Yes, give me that. Get in there,
Get in there, get on get on a table.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
We'll be right there.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Okay, let's take a break. We'll be right back with
more of our fabulous conversation with the amazing Gloria Loring.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And we're back and it's like three point thirty four
o'clock in the morning and I go in and they
do every possible test. They do an EKG, they do
an EEG, they do an echo cardigram, and they take
blood and they say, okay, all of those are clear,
but trapponin is elevated.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
A tripponin is a hormone.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
That sometimes appears elevated if you've had a heart attack.
So they said, okay, we're going to keep you overnight.
And now it's you know, in the morning, and they
put me in a room and they're gonna do We're
gonna do and what.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Is that called. It's a I can't.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Test it angiogram and jogram.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Thank you angiogram. Look and listen.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
If you're asking us about these stars, do it.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
But this is Machael.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
This is I'm very impressive anyway, and I had.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
It and I can't think of it anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And they put a little tiny cut in your in
your artery or veane or something in your leg, and
then they thread a little tiny camera.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
It's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
So I'm in there and I'm lying there and there's
a monitor up to my left, and they put a
curtain in front of you so you don't see what
they're doing.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
And had.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
He had said, now you know, we're going to do
this today and we're going to get you started on
statins and espernon with your family history. I said, no,
just a minute. Let's get the diagnostics first, and then
we'll figure out what we do. I've been following a plan.
At that time, it was twenty five years, I said,
because this is about ten years, not even ten years ago.
And I said, I've been following a plan ancient medicine
(27:21):
with herbs and diet, and let's let's see what the
results is. Then we'll figure out what I do because
I'm not taking statins anyway. The first thing I did
in the morning was called my irovetic doctor and I said, look,
I'm in the hospital. I had this and blah blah.
He said, it's okay, let them do what they want
to do. When you get out, we'll fix it. I said, okay,
thank you. And he had done that with a number
of things with me supposedly nobody could fix, and he
(27:43):
fixed them anyway. So now I'm sitting there and I'm
on I'm lying there and stretched out and they're doing
what they're doing, and.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
I'm looking at my heart.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
I'm looking at my own heart beating in my body,
keeping me alive. And I just had this huge wave
of gratitude and I was tears streaming down. It's tears
of joy and gratitude streaming down my face, saying, oh
my God, look at you. You're so beautiful and you've
(28:13):
been doing this for me all my life and you're
just working away in there, and I'm so glad. I
thought to do things to take care of you. I
hope will be okay, and I'm sending this love and everything.
And he comes around. He comes around the little curtain
and he says, Okay, I don't know what that herbal
doctor is doing for you, but you have no plaque
in your arteries anywhere.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I said, okay, proof of concept, proof of concept. Peace out.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
And I had to wait.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
They brought me a lunch, which was beef slice. I'm
a cardiac care person and you're giving me beef anyway,
So I said, I can't eat this. Just bring me,
bring me pudding or something fine. But that was so reassuring,
and I thought maybe that was what that's a purpose.
(29:08):
I don't say there's a reason for everything, but we
can find the reason that resonates for us. You know,
I've done many, many years of spiritual inquiry and meditation
and reading, and I read about all the different religions
and everything, and there's a continuum within them. There's a
coherence between all the basic religions. First of all, all
of them say, don't treat anybody anyway you wouldn't want
(29:31):
to be treated, do unto others, or don't do unto
others what you wouldn't want to. So that's my religion is, Yeah,
don't tell me what you believe, show me who you are.
That's for me anyway. So that was that was like
this great reassurance that I've been doing the right thing
all this time, and so maybe I will live to
ninety three and be at that thirty My grandson gets
(29:54):
married at thirty, which is fifteen more years.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Because my step kids that are nine and eleven years
older than our youngest. Oh, and so my mom was
at their graduate high school graduations, and about ten years ago,
Dashell was like, are you going to be at mike graduation?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And my mom was like, I'm going to try.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I told Julian when he said and I said, okay,
I have a mission statement.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Thank you very much. I have to live in ninety three.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
You had a book. Well, you're like seven books.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I wrote the cookbooks, I wrote the diabetes care books.
I wrote some little you know, taking care of yourself
when I was on days of our lives.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous. And many of
these stories about friends and lovers, and just because I
saw these these constant things, just I call them coincidings
that that well, I wanted to do this and wait,
well there it is right there, it's right, it's you know, expected,
And I have the expected miracle framed over my mirror
(31:00):
vanity where I sit.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
You write the dear where it came from?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Did you ever learn?
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Never found out.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I don't know why someone walked into my room and
slipped that underneath my underneath my They didn't even leave
it on the vanity, underneath the bag.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
What the heck?
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Well, it sounds amazing, and we'll have to have another conversation,
maybe offline, because you knew my husband has a paranormal podcast,
and I've heard you talk about some paranormal experiences.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Experience spiritual experiences, Yeah, very powerful, some of them at
the Ashram I went to an ashram for many years
and during some of the programs and I went. When
I first went, I went to the ashroman and breakfast.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
He said, you have to wear your name. I'm Gloria Louring.
I don't wear a name. Ten Yeah, that's where.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That's who I was back then, you know, because I
need to be seen and known and anyway. And so
I learned everything.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
I learned. Humility, I learned.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
I learned a lot of things. I think singers need
a little diva in them. Sometimes, Oh you got it,
you got it. You got to know when to use
it and when to say sit on the side. And
right now, honeybody, you're not you're not needed right now.
This has been absolutely so much fun.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Thank you. So it was fun for you too, it
was We're so glad to hear that, because yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I remembered almost all the names you do. James Brolin, yes,
I remember his barbistreis and his husband, but I can't
remember his name other than that, you know, as long
as as I talked it.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Once said when I said I think I'm losing and said, listen,
losing your keys, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
No, I tell people look, I said, I can tell
it's in there, and I can feel it's like somebody
going through.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
The files, the file cabinet.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's in here, somewhere, it's in here, I said, in
twenty minutes, and I'll be doing I'll say, Stacy Keach.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
You know, twenty minutes later.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Ah, Okay, We're so grateful for all of your talent
and your soul.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
It's been really great to tell so much and really
appreciate you coming in.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
No, I like it, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
It's there's something for me better about being There's there's
an energy that flows here that gets interrupted by data
and screens and you know, just to be with you
and back and forth. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Well, when we started the podcast, we were still in
the process. We as the world were still coming out
of the pandemic. Yes, really it was a yeah that
we were able to do it over zoom as much
as we have, and also for those guests that we've
had that our back easter is somewhere else. It's it's fantastic,
but there's nothing like having it having somebody else.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah. Yeah, when when the pandemic first started, I called
my friend who was one more one more story.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
I'm sorry I'm just a font of today. What can
I tell you?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
WHOA Anyway, I was called again with the Juvenile Diabetes
Association by PR communications director Karen. She said, look, there's
a lady down in Tennessee and they're going to do it.
She's with American Heart Association and she's got diabetes and
she wants to do this event. And it was talking
about the relationship between heart disease and diabetes.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
And I said, well, that sounds like something up my alley.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
And then I talked to this lady, Deborah, and she
was so filled with enthusiasm and just so bright and cheerful,
and I thought, I love this lady. So anyway, I
wind up going down there to do this thing. And
it was kind of their gall it's in Bristol, Tennessee.
It's a tiny it's the Try Cities.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
She wanted to get Mary.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Tyler Moore, but of course Mary wasn't going to come
to Bristol, Tennessee. But Karen was very very good. Well,
you know, Mary's kind of busy, but you know what,
and she had had a dream the night before and
she saw she was watched Days of Our Lives occasionally
and the dream was it was Gloria Loring in profile
with a microphone in her hand, in a black dress
(34:48):
with long sleeves and a scoop neck. And she said, oh,
you know, if Mary can't do it, maybe Gloria Lauring
can do it. That would be great because she's got
a son with diabeta. So now she's on the with Karen.
Karen says, well, Mary can't do it, and the next
thing out of us, let me call Gloria Laurence. So
now we're on the phone together and I go down
there and that night she is sitting on the side
(35:10):
of the stage and she sees me in profile with
the microphone in a black, long sleeve, scoop neck dress
and she goes, oh, that's what I saw on my
dream manifest. So I know that was nineteen ninety eight.
We are still now. When the COVID hit, I said, okay,
(35:32):
I need to have people to talk to.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
I said, let's you.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
And I be a quarantine. Okay, quarantine, a quarantine. And
we called each other in the morning, how to sleep,
but you have for breakfast?
Speaker 6 (35:43):
What are you going to do today? What are you
going to bup?
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Up up?
Speaker 6 (35:45):
And then okay, bedtime. How you doing.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
How was your day? We still do that. We're still
doing that ever since COVID. We talk in the morning
and then we talk at night.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
That's so great.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
She's my quarantine.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
And you have how many grandkids sick six grandkids Robin has.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
We didn't even talk about Robin. I know we.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Have to give him extico.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Robin can talk about it. That's true.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
A lot of people know about Robin.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Robin is getting married the end of this month. He's
been with his fiance. Well, they lost their home, he
lost his father, he lost his mentor, and he lost
his manager, all in the course of one year. And
it was so and then she got pregnant, and then
the fire came. She was pregnant, then she had one baby,
then she was pregnant with the next one. Then the
(36:30):
fire came, and then they lost their home. And she said,
and he said, we will get married at some point.
But now they have three children of their own, plus
Julian from his marriage to wonderful Paula Patten. And so,
as I said, I call them the thick lips, the
the little ones. They're seven, six and four, and they're
they're so cute. They run around like little scream with
(36:53):
scooters through the living room. You know, Okay, don't hit Nana.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Don't hit Nana. Whatever you do, don't run over my feet.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Are they boys girls mixed?
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Mia is It sounds like an Italian movie. Mia is seven,
Lola is six, and Luca is four. It's an Italian movie.
I don't know how they got Italian names for these children.
And then Julian is fifteen now and he's from the
first marriage. And then my son Brennan has Tyler, who
is going to be seventeen next month in May, and
(37:26):
he's six five and a half. Every time I walk
by and I say, you're just a giant child, really
a giant child anyway. And then they adopted Darling Cheyenne,
who came into their life when she was twenty months
old and her mother was drug addicted and the judge
(37:47):
had told her, if you will just complete your rehab
and get out of this abusive relationship, you can keep
this daughter. She'd already given away a couple of children
because she'd had them taken away because she was not
sufficiently in this life to take care of them. And
she quit rehab and married her abuser. Some of us
(38:09):
can't let go of well it's familiar. It's like, this
is what I deserve, this is what should happen, you know.
I mean we all can understand that on some level.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
So when they brought they said, we have a little girl.
We need to place her tonight. She needs a place
to stay. And Dolly had already gotten like a crib
and stuff waiting because she wanted a daughter. She had
had preclampsia and etcetera. And she said, you know, I
don't want to take another chance. She was in her
late thirties and et cetera. So they brought they bring Cheyenne,
Little Cheyenne, and Dolly Bin's already she says, Hi, my
(38:42):
name is mommy, and this is daddy.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
Taking no chances. We're to get right in there, and.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
She is, Oh my god, she is such a joy.
She's so funny. She used to call me last year
because her mom was working, and so mom would leave
Andaddy would then walk her to school. But she'd call
me like it's seven fifteen in the morning. She'd call
me say, hi, Nana, she's got a fine she Hi, Nana,
you want to watch me dance. Sure, seven fifteen, okay, sure,
(39:15):
and it was it was always it was different music.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
I got a new song, but it was always the
same dance.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
It was elbows out and you know, like like she
had moroccas in her hands, and you know she is,
she's so sweet. We go we have girls afternoons and
we go to CPK. We have a system, and then
we go to a movie PG movie and she sits there.
She puts her head on my shoulder and kisses my cheek.
She's just the sweetest little girl. She's she's going to
(39:42):
at some point get snarchy because she's going to be
a teenager.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
But it's okay. I've had I've had lots of sweetness,
so I can I.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Can handle it.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I remember when somebody told me, I said, wait till
your son turns thirteen. He's going to lose his mind
and you are going to be the stupidest person on
the planet until he's about nineteen or twenty. I said, okay,
thank you for warning me. Just after his thirteenth birthday,
he walked into the It was the eighties, right, you know,
the big hair and all that. He walked into the
kitchen and he looked at me and said, Mom, why
(40:10):
do you have to wear those big belts? And I went,
oh it started, Oh it started, Okay, I remember it
would be stupid for about six years.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
I remember with our oldest I walked in.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
I was like, because this used to be just a garage,
but the gaming system was out here, and I was like,
you can't be on the gaming system to you take.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Up the trash. And the look that I got he
could have killed me. It was Owen and I was
like here.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
I turned around and I was like, oh my god,
that's it.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
There it is they will Owen will not like me.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I had a sign I printed out on my refrigerator
and says, teenagers tired of parents and teachers pushing you around.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Move out now while you still know everything. Oh my gosh.
But they're all delightful. They are they are.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Then they grow up, then they know what you went through.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
It's all such fun.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Good.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yeah, we're very I'm so blessed by your joy.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Thank you. It's a gift.
Speaker 6 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I told you everything was fine, except I had a
car I didn't like and I was I needed to
lose weight, and I got a new car and I'm
doing the other one very successfully.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
So all right, well.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
I'm going to say you look fabulous, so I think
you's it great as gar but.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
You do you so.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
This is great fun.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Thank you so much, what joy, Thank you very much,
such a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
For today's audiography. You can find Gloria Loring on her
website Gloria Loring dot com and she's also on Instagram
as Gloria Loring All one word.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
You can also currently watch there's two seasons of the
Facts of Life for free on two B Now the
Facts of Life, Sharon is moving around like every time
we do a little thing of where you can find it,
I go to make sure it's still there, and it's
like it's like the I don't know, it's like a
little minnows running away. Season four is over here. Season
(42:18):
one is no longer available, but if you search for
it you can find it places. Sometimes you'll have to pay,
but you can watch the first two, season two, and
season three on to Be for free.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
So and it's possible if you're someone that still has
cable or has an over the air antenna, there may
be some channels where that they are showing the Facts
of Life.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
So because it is kind of ubiquitous sometimes.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
And you can find the DVDs on eBay.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
There you go. Absolutely. You can also listen to Gloria's autobiography,
which is called Coincidence is God's Way of Remaining Anonymous.
It's about her life and time as a soap oper star.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
It's available on Audible, which, by the way, you can
also listen to eighties TV Ladies podcast on Audible. I
just found that out today. Would have been nice if
they let us know, so we could let you know.
But so how, it's magically on Audible. No one told us.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
But it's available for free on Audible, So if you
have an Audible account, you don't have to use a
credit or pay for it.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
You can just listen in.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
There's so many choices. Wherever you want to listen, please
continue to enjoy.
Speaker 6 (43:38):
But wherever you do listen, please give us a rating
or a review. We're at fifty nine ratings on Apple podcasts.
I'm just saying, even if you don't listen to Apple podcasts,
run over there, hit play for like one minute, and
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you're just doing things, just do it that way.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
Sounds like a plan. To me, Eighties TV ladies, I
bet you're wondering what's coming up next. Get ready for
the nineties TV babies take on the Facts of life.
This one is gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I cannot wait.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Also, we're just about to wrap up season three, can
you believe it? And once again we'll be taking a
hiatus for most of the summer. But don't worry. Just
like eighties TV, we'll be doing reruns of our most
popular episodes, so you'll be able to catch up on
some of the ones you missed. We're wishing you a
beautiful summer, and.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
I forgot to fill that in.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
And William just cut it off after We're.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
Wishing you a beautiful summer to Sharon.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Oh my god, But.
Speaker 6 (44:53):
Sharon, what are we going to do for season four?
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
We haven't announced it yet, but I do you know,
we can tell you one of the shows we were
going to be covering, because we're going to kick off
season four with a look at one of the greatest
eighties TV ladies shows of all time.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Well, I guess of the eighties really the brass ring
of Eighties ladies, the Golden Girls.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
That's right. When we come back for season four, we'll
be looking at that most fabulous, all eighties, all girl,
all golden TV show.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
Now, what do you guys want to know about the
Golden Girls? What should we be researching, Who should we
talk to? What should we talk about? Send us your
thoughts at eightiestv Ladies dot com or email us at
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Speaker 4 (45:48):
As always, we hope Eighties TV Ladies brings you joy
and laughter and lots of fabulous new and old shows
to watch, all of which will bring us closer to
being amazing ladies. At the twenty first cent Tree.
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If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.