The Facts of Life with the 90s TV Babies!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Weirding Way Media.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Eighties So Pretty Babies, Through the City, Gun God, then
Man World.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, and welcome to Eighties TV Ladies, where we explore
the fabulous female driven television shows of the nineteen eighties.
We are your hosts. I'm Sharon Johnson.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
And I'm Susan Lambert HadAM.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
This season has been so much fun. We started with
Jennifer Keishen Armstrong and then casting director Marsha Ross. Then
we got to look at Mama's Family, Carol Burnette, The
Elephant Show, and even a little bit of the nineties
show The Nanny.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
With such a tough, scary, chaotic year here in Los
Angeles and Pasadena and in our nation. For me, TV
Ladies has been a welcome respite because we've had such
a wonderful season. Sharon talking to guests like Heather Thomas
from The Fall Guy, Bruce Boxleitner, and the Scarecromas is
King Walk with Me podcasters, It's.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
All just been so wonderful getting the chance to continue
to talk to people we so love an admire who
have been responsible for some of our greatest eighties television
and beyond. Now I've enjoyed looking back at the Facts
of Life showed I didn't watch at the time, but
definitely knew about. It's hard not to know about shows

(01:35):
during the eighties. It's a show that resonates to this
day between the theme song, and it feels like somehow
it's still in the zeitgeist. It ran for nine seasons
from nineteen seventy nine to nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Almost all of the eighties, and I got to say
that this particular run of guests for the Facts of Life,
or FOL as the fans like to say, has been another.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Great run of guests.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
We started off talking with my friend and current TV
writer producer on a Palm Nighum and his love for
the show growing up, followed by the Facts of Life
writer producer Margie Peters and then producing director Asad Kalada,
who were so delightful Sharon, I mean, just really filled
with joy and laughter. And then the amazing singer of

(02:24):
the Facts of Life things sold, Miss Gloria Louring.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
That was awesome. It's been so much fun and I'm
so excited to hear what our nineties TV babies will
glean from the Facts of Life.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yes, indeed, it's time to bring back finally the nineties
TV Babies are smart and sassy, clever and classy friends
who were all born in the nineties. We gave them
the assignment to watch select Facts of Life episodes and
tell us what they think.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Nineties TV Baby Serita Fontanessi as a podcaster, content creator
and training facilitator in diverse progressive sectors and oral politics.
She lives in Austin, Texas.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Megan Rubel is an actress, singer and producer who lives
in the San Fernando Balley.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
So here we go, Lise, Welcome back to EIGHTYESTV Ladies,
the absolutely fabulous nineties TV Babies, Serrita Fontinesi and Megan Rubel,
Sergio Perez and Sailor.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Our newest ninety TV baby will not be joining today,
but we'll be back on another episode later.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Here's the great thing, Sharon, So many of our listeners
gave us great suggestions.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
For episodes for the ninetyes TV babies to watch.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yes, so that was really exciting and fun to see
them coming in. So I want to thank our listeners
that gave suggestions, especially from Facebook, Christian Keys, TL, Jason Brow,
Lisa Florey, Mendenhall and Christopher Stroker.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
And then on Instagram we had at Murphy Brown Pot
and at Treasure Chamber.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
And we had people email us as well at eightiestv
Ladies at gmail dot com. So many great suggestions, and
I really want to particularly shout out Tracy and Mola
Mola Mothman. That must be someone who also listens to
Richard's podcast. Okay, so what were the assignment Sharon?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, what we did is we look through all of
the episodes that were suggested along with the ones that
we also suggested, and came up with a list that
kind of encompassed much of the series, leaning heavily into, frankly,
the ones that our listeners really wanted the nineties TV

(04:45):
babies to listen to. So we had them start with
season one episode thirteen, Dope, and then season two episode one,
The New Girl, which of course is where we first
met Joe. Then sees three episode fifteen, Starstruck, where Twud
met Jermaine Jackson. So great, then Yeah, followed by season

(05:11):
four episode twenty two, Take My Finals Please, Season five
episode six, The Halloween Show, Season seven episode one, Out
of the Fire.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Now two shows we wanted to include but could not
because we couldn't find them streaming in a way that
the nineties TV babies could watch them. Was season eight,
episode twelve, seven Little Indians, and back in season five,
episode twelve, The Christmas Show, which is so funny because
the Christmas Show was streaming when we talked about it,

(05:46):
Sharon for our Christmas episodes back in what December, so
it sort of stunning. And then our bonus episodes to
watch were the pilot season one episode one, The New
Girl Part two, Season two episode two. They also recommended
season two episode five, Cousin Jerry, and season three episode eighteen, Runaway.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Season five episode ten, Store Games, Season five episode seventeen,
A Death in the Family, Season five episode eighteen, Big Fish,
Little Fish, Season seven episode two, Into the Frying Pan,
Season seven episode eight, Come Back to the Truck Stop
Natalie Green. Natalie Green, I love this story.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Because you know that's a play on the play.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yes, exactly, but it just cracks me up. And then
season seven episode fourteen, two dy Drives, and then last
but not least, season nine, episode sixteen The First Time.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Now, one of our listeners suggested the entire season nine,
which I'm going to say is a little bit of
an overreach. We can't make them watch an entire season,
but particularly it was so frustrating to realize that it
was hard to find.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
As we're all learning, the streaming world giveth and then
the streaming world take it away.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
All right, So I'm going to shout out our friend
at Advance TV, her History, who always recommends that.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
People buy the DVD.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
She says, by the DVDs if you really want the show,
because they can't take that away from you as long
as you keep your DVD player working, all right, So
let's get them on and see what they thought.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
So welcome back nineties TV babies. We are so looking
forward to hearing what you think about the facts of life.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
I oh, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
So well, well, we're going to get to that, but
I just want a really quick bullet line your summer plans.
The last time we did summer plans was right before
a different world, and now it's a different summer ahead
of us.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
I feel like Serena is is like summer is going
to be way more exciting than mine. Anyway, I say
can compete with this, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
You know, it's gonna be a very different summer than
it was last time.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
I'm a schedulcy section.

Speaker 6 (08:13):
So we're planning first week of August, which my birthday
is August nineteenth, so you know, really hoping for another
August Leo in the family. But yeah, my summer bullet
point is getting my life together before. It's really chill,
it's really casual, not much left to do. I mean, yeah,

(08:38):
you know, listen, the bassinet is set up. He doesn't
have to sleep in a drawer. So I'm feeling pretty good.
And you know what you're having. Yes, we're having a boy.
So I am officially outnumbered in this house between the dogs,
my husband, and now this little guy.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
You know, that's that's never good. I will speak from experience.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
Yeah, yeah, yes, it's the exact same season.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Do you have someone to go to for advice? I'm
sure I will be calling and pep talks for being
so outnumbered in your home.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
True.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Have you chosen a name and is it something you
want to share or willing to share at this point?

Speaker 6 (09:22):
Yes, we've chosen a name, Theodore THEO for short. You know,
we love a good old fashioned name around this house.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I love that. That's fantastic.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
It's one of those older names too, that just has
excellent nickname capabilities.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
So truly, Yeah, well I'm excited. We decided for Halloween
we're going to go is Alvin and the Chipmunks.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
So really excited.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Oh my good night, Nurse.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Oh my gosh. All right, that is very exciting and
it's hard to beat. But Megan, I'm well, I'll.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Be even more boring. It's going to be the exact
same thing as last year. Like literally exactly, I'm producing
a show for Hollywood French Festival and I'm doing Shakespeare
by the Sea.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
But I saw you were doing something else.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Oh I was doing so Universal Studios did its first.
They actually announced it is coming back for next year.
They started a thing called fan Fest, which is sort
of they're taking the after hours events that like Disney
is doing for you know, different sections of their fandoms,
but taking kind of the horror Nights model. So there

(10:37):
were walk through attractions, there was a fully immersive back
to the Future experience. I don't want to advertise too
much for Universal Studios until they pay me more, but
it was really awesome to be part of that inaugural event,
and like I mean, the fandoms were there were a
couple of anime ips and Back to the Future, which

(10:57):
of course has like huge fans. I was in Star Trek,
which has incredible fans and D and D so just
like really awesome people, really excited to experience these fandoms
live with like a story happening around them.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
So yeah, so you were performing as a Star Trek person.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah, so I think I can talk about it now.
We had like all these weird rules of what we
were supposed to talk about and not talk about. But basically,
you walked onto the Enterprise d so Pitcard's enterprise and
we were all ensigns. And if you have watched the
series Picard, the Enterprise d is dockted a museum, so
nothing should be going wrong, but then of course things
go wrong since running around trying to solve it.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Well, that's interesting because Star Trek is owned by Paramount
and yet it's at a Universal fan event. Very interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
One of the things that was craziest about this was,
with the exception of Back to the Future and Wicked,
everything else that was present there was owned by someone else. Yeah,
so like we had both Paramount and Universal with us
at all times. D and D had like Hasbro and
Wizards at the coast approving things. Yeah, they had one

(12:13):
piece and so like a team flew out from Japan
to like approve the makeup and the costumes and stuff.
Really cool stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
And how long did this last?

Speaker 5 (12:22):
It was about a month long?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Month long?

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Okay, yeah, that was so cool.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Well did you have a character name?

Speaker 5 (12:29):
This is the thing that it's like touchy. I believe
I can say that I was a vulcan, which was
really cool because I had like by the end, they
got pretty quick with it. But I was in the
makeup chair for about two plus hours a day because
the prosthetics are so detailed, because it's just like I
can send some pictures it's like just the tip of
your ear, and they were incredible.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
This Star Trek fan needs to see those pictures.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
I will, I will send it.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, I cannot wait to see it. And so again,
Star Trek Fan, what color was your uniform?

Speaker 5 (13:02):
I was an engineering and in fact, while you were
in there, the warp course started destabilizing.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Engineering is in next gen? I think was gold.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yeah, I think everything after the original no way, very impressive. Yeah,
everything after the original series. The color swapped right because
they thought that, oh my gosh, Pickard h the actor's name.
They thought he looked better in red, so they switched
command over to the Redrick Stewart, Patrick Stewart, Sir Patrick

(13:37):
Stewart looked better in red, which he does, so they
changed the colors.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
That is so funny. I was chewing so hard trying
to get trying to.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Get Sir Patrick Stewart. All I could think of was
Ian McKellen, and I was like, that is not it.
It's the other one.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
It's the other guy. I well, I was going to
do the sir because that came later.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Right, Oh get yeah, that is true.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
But anyway, that's me not knowing the British protocol at all.
All right, well, that is very exciting news. We got
a baby on the way and a vulcan.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Melting the core. I'm pretty excited.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
This is a very exciting summer, very exciting seven.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Okay, so the assignment the nineties TV babies were asked
to watch certain episodes which we told you about before,
provided by the listeners. So just so you know, all
of these came from fans on Facebook, Instagram, listeners that
emailed us. So it's it's kind of exciting because Sharon

(14:51):
and I gleaned out of the many suggestions which ones
we were most excited about. And then of course there
were only so many availables streaming, which is make me
mad because when we started talking about the Facts of Life,
you could find it streaming all nine seasons on Amazon.
You had to pay for it, but all nine seasons

(15:13):
were on Amazon or Apple, and now they're not.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
For Roppery.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
I'm just gonna say, all right, so before we got
into the episodes, what did you know of the show
before we started this adventure?

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Megan? Do you want to start? Sure?

Speaker 5 (15:28):
I feel truly like a broken record because I feel
like I say this all the time, always producing one
thing while doing Shakespeare and also always going I had
never heard of this, like even a little bit. I
swear I've watched like classic TV. It's just this is
not my like era and genre that I did. I
did a lot of like anyways, but yeah, nothing. I

(15:52):
think I had heard the title before and that is
about it.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
Oh my god, all right, So, Rita, I also feel
like a broken record in that like this is definitely
on in my house my aunt like huge roller skate girl,
and when I was little, she would let me put
her too big for me skates on and skate around
her apartment. But she referenced Touty a lot because she

(16:19):
had her skates. And I mean, I certainly I had
not seen even close to every episode, but like I'm
familiar with the show and the cast, and like I
love Kim Field's regimes My.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
Girl, but uh yeah, I was familiar with the show.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
So now I'm very excited because of your knowledge or
elect thereof of the facts of life world, what you
guys thought of the show and the episodes that we
showed you.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
I mean, it's such a like wholesome show, right, Like
it's it's very formulaic, Like every episode is its own
little container of like a story arc, which I personally
enjoy and really lends itself to.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Like you know, kind of shopping around episodes.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
And it's so like the whole concept of the show
I think is really fun to me of like this
home for girls, and like they each are sort of
this like archetype of teenage girl and teenage angst. And
I mean in true you know eighties TV ladies fashion, right,

(17:33):
like that wasn't really a thing like there weren't a
ton of women centered shows, but certainly not like a
female cast and seeing them in a lot of ways
not be one dimensional.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Like I said, they all have their archetype and their
role to play.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
But like we still get to see some like challenges
and internal conflict and the group navigate being a.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
Girl in high school, which can be brutal.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Megan, what about you?

Speaker 5 (18:06):
As I was watching and I was like, this show
makes me feel like I have a blanket around me
and I'm eating mac and cheese.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Like it's not and I don't mean this in a
negative way at all. It's not the most brilliant thing
I've ever seen. My mind wasn't like, oh my goodness,
I can't believe I watched something like that. You know,
it never hit that point, but it was like, this
is just good and fun and yeah, Srita, to your point,
we don't really do formulate TV anymore, and I understand why,

(18:36):
but I also think that that's a loss. It's so comforting.
It's so nice to know, like, oh, I think I
know what joke they're ramping up into and still giggling,
you know what I mean? It's still funny, it's still good,
and it also was one of the fusions. Because we
jump around so much and because I don't necessarily always
have the time to watch extra episodes, I felt like

(18:57):
I was keeping up. Even though we watched like a
show or an episode a season, I still felt like
I was kind of following what happened and could kind
of be like, oh, something has changed here. Okay, that
makes sense. I could follow the shifts through each season,
which is nice certainly not a modern television trope, even
in a sitcom. And yes, Srida, I agree with you.

(19:19):
The other thing that came to mind as I was
watching it is I recently, within like the past, actually
like five years ago, started watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer
and became a huge fan and then like love it,
but also was like, I'm so glad I didn't watch
this in high school, because I think this would have
made me feel even sadder about my high school experience,

(19:43):
which was not a bad high school experience, it just
wasn't that.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
And this made me.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Go, it wasn't killing vampires.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
It was that, but it wasn't the dating atmosphere was
killing vampires, wasn't dating wasn't dating Angel.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Wait, have you finished Buffy? I'm so sorry.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, and I've gone back and watched stuff too,
and Angel's your guy. Oh no, no, I'm spiked through
and through. Okay, that's what I needed to confirm. Yeah, yeah, Spikes.
But watching Angel made me like, oh, I don't hate
Angel anymore. They like gave David bordie as a better
script and now we're okay with him. Still not into him,

(20:25):
but Spike through and through Spike, Yeah, I want to
be him, want to kiss him both.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
But like, I'm glad that teenage Me wasn't interesting that
because I think it would have made me more insecure
or like, you know, other things like that. I'm sad
that teenage Me wasn't ingesting this show because I think,
to your point, Srita, like, there were so many moments
where I related to each of the girls or could
remember feeling that way, or could remember my friends feeling

(20:53):
that way, and that's such a good feeling to feel
seen and also contend with you know, I'm a few
of those episodes dealing with slightly deeper things. I've never
seen an episode of TV deal with celebrity and fandoms
that get out of control, and I thought that was
so I kept like holding my breath, waiting for it
to not be my right hair. Social relationships they actually

(21:16):
are not new, yeah, and like handled so beautifully and
with so much compassion for everyone involved.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting. I'm thinking about the fact
that in this case, the episodes that we assign to
you are for the most part, really on the funny
side or the you know things, nothing particularly serious involved,
if you will trust me, they have a bunch of
episodes that do take on issues and such, and so

(21:47):
I think that in this case, unlike Designing Women, where
we tended to lean more towards that kind of episode,
this time we leaned more toward the funny. So I'm
hoping that maybe it will encourag you to go back
and watch some more of it at some point so
you can find it or you know, ketch some episodes
as it comes on, because there are some really great

(22:08):
episodes where they handle things really really well, not just
for a show about teenagers, but just in general. So
it's really interesting.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Even in the test episode where they're studying all night
for the test, there's this sense of like insecurity about
the future and the pressures on them, and yeah, that's
a very funny episode, but also it is handling something that,
especially to a teenager, is very heavy.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
I think it's also really interesting that these are the
episodes that listeners.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Love the most.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
Right, Like, as much as it's not to say that
there isn't value where people don't love those heavier episodes,
but when we think back of like, oh, what did
I really love about that show?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
It is, like Megan, you were saying.

Speaker 6 (22:50):
That feeling of like I've got my tozy blanket and
like a bull of mac and cheese, and I just
feel really safe and seen, and those are like the
things that we hold on to, and I think that
the show did a really good job of capturing again,
especially because it's like just a.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Gaggle of girls all the time.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
And as someone who is constantly my grandma'd be like,
you guys sound like magpies, Like just a gaggle of
girls everywhere because none of us were dating.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Because what that's crazy. I think there's something really like
wholesome and relatable.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
To that that's so interesting. I love both of what
you guys said, you know, it's interesting. I will say
that listeners gave us a lot of episodes, so there
were some serious ones on there, but we kind of
tended to gravitate towards the ones that were recommended more
than once. Take My Finals Please was in many ways,

(23:48):
certainly on the social media side, by far the most recommended.
So it was funny that that was there.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
To me, I do not like deep dish pizza, and
that episode made me one dish piece. I was like, yeah,
I'm excited about it too, where's my liver?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
It did really take me back to the days of
that was more for me and in college, obviously.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Because I wasn't living with a bunch.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Of girls in high school, but in college, the late
night studying and snapping that took place. It was like,
oh my god, I totally remember this, So I think
that's so interesting. All right, So, Sarrita, since you know
the show pretty well, was there an episode that you
remembered that you're like, oh, I wish i'd given us

(24:38):
that one, or I don't know, was there another episode
in the mix in your head or was it just
a big wash of facts of life memory.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
Yeah, I think it's mostly a wash of facts of
life memory I do other than like obviously loving Tuty,
like Joe was probably my other favorite character, which as
an adult, I think those two being my favorite makes
a lot of sense and feels very right.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Because I remember being a kid watching me like going
on Blair like she's so cool, like but certainly did
not see myself in her in any way. But I
think what I loved about Joe was that she just
really didn't care.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
And while I certainly did not have.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
That confidence as a teenage girl, absolutely not. Like I
thought that was that was really cool, was like, what,
you're a teenager and you don't care what everybody thinks
about you at every moment of the day.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
That's crazy. I didn't know that was possible.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
And then I think I relate to a lot of
two D's sensibilities and just sort of like the Jermaine
Jackson episode like of course he knows who I am,
Like what.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Do you mean.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
I'm I'm the president of the fan club and he
wrote like the delusion like I'm very much really to that,
so like less of like episode and anything. Those are
just the two characters that really like stayed with me
from watching the show before.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
That just so cool I was gonna And that was
a segue into the next question, which is what characters
pot for you. I'm very curious with Meghan, because you
really got just a snapshot of the show.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
Truly to the point where I'm gonna pull up character
names so that I don't miss say anything, because truly,
the only name I can remember is Twoty, because I
was like, this cannot be this person's name, and then
it is.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
First of all, related more than I care to admit
to Edna, just because I was like, what I hate
how much I related.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
I feel like you always relate to like the matriarch,
like of.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
A series all concerned about me.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
I dropped straight to ninety years old and was just like,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
It is what it is. There's no right or wrong
answers in this.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
But also I feel like a lot of the examples
we do have of the matriarchs is they're like kind
of fun and ry, like they have fun ant energy.
Usually they're kind of fun and ry, and they're like
here to have a conversation with you if you need
to have a conversation, but like we're gonna have some
fun together, and I think that's what I liked about
her and definitely related to I'm obsessed with Natalie. I'm

(27:30):
obsessed with Natalie and also just that actor's consistency. And like,
in watching the parts of season one that we watched,
there was a moment where I was like, Oh, these
people are young and I don't knowe. Like, it's not
like it was bad. It was like, oh, this is young.
And then as the seasons go on, you watch everyone's
humor gets sharper and everyone like fall more firmly into Yes,

(27:53):
I'm playing a caricature, but I'm playing it truthfully and
like you see them evolve, which is also really cool. Yeah,
Natalie obsessed from the ge go and yeah, also very
much related to Joe in the like and see it's interesting.
I related to the like I'm going to be the
tough girl because I feel like that's the identity that
I need to fulfill. And it's like, chill, we we

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love you. It's okay.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
That is so interesting. Okay, So just a little info
on Mendy Cone, who played Natalie.

Speaker 7 (28:27):
Hm.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
She had never acted before. What that's wild?

Speaker 5 (28:32):
How'd they find her?

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Some of the producers did a tour of a similar school.
She was the one that was chosen to be their guide,
and they kind of went, we should have her on
the show.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
So that Tyra Banks in a mall story.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
It totally is.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yeah, So she was the tour guide for Westlake, which
was the girls' school here familiar, yep, Los Angeles. And
they were like, she's great. We need someone like her.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
And then they're like, Natalie was a Westlake girl. That's great.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
And I was watching a documentary the other night on
Checks with Life because you know, that's what I do
in my spare time, and many Cone really talks about
how Tudy really basically taught her basically how to stand
and where to act, like how basically how to be
on a set. It was totally precious and Tuty was
nine when the show started.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
She was nine years old.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
That's insane. That's incredible.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
She probably had more acting experience than almost anybody else.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
In at least the first episode we watched it. To me,
it shows, Yeah, she like just has a natural command too.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
And the reason she's on those roller skates so much
in the first season, which she she's on roller skates
the entire first.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Season to make her look older.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
It's to make her taller because they couldn't get the
camera shots still in.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
She was so girl, you have to stand on.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
I do also want the shot that's just her on
like four apple boxes.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Oh, I was just thinking that. You know, as you
saw in the first season, the episode you watched in
the first season, there were so many girls, so many girls,
and then they came to their senses and brought it
down to the four that we all know and love
is the facts of life girls. But in some ways,
for perhaps Natalie in particular, and perhaps even kim Field's

(30:38):
being as young as she was, that it was to
their advantage because there were all these other girls that
needed to do things and they had a chance to
kind of ease their way into this before they were
expected to really be carrying this show or helping carry
this show. I mean, I still don't know what the
heck they were thinking with all those girls in that

(30:58):
first season that was, and I think they made the
right choice to whittle it down to just the four.
But again, it probably was to the advantage of those
two in particular to have that space to kind of
figure out what the heck they were doing on TV.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
I mean I only watched the one episode in season one,
but the way they chose to whittle it down, Like,
when I saw that that had happened for season two,
maya brain went off and was like, uh, oh, who'd
they pick to focus on? And the fact that you
had like a person who was conventionally I guess who
you would expect to lead a show like this, but

(31:38):
then was surrounded by people that we could all point
to and be like, oh, I see myself in her.
I see myself in her, and I see yourself in
her as well. To a certain extent, I thought it
was cool that the popular pretty girl was also fairly driven.
It seemed like, and that's nice, but yeah, I was
worried with that many people. Tokenization can like become a

(32:00):
thing a lot more easily, And because of the way
they narrowed it down to who they were going to
focus on, it felt less like they were all still
caricatures to a certain extent, but it felt less like
this is the person who fits this niche and all
their jokes are about them being this. It was just funny,
ear than the alternate reality of whatever that TV show is.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
So can you think Siriita you have a great knowledge
of television of before your time.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Is there another show that was all female before Facts
of Life that was a group of female not just
a female lead, but a female friendship show.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
I don't know if I can think of a modern show.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
Well, because didn't Facts of Life come out like nineteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Nineteen seventy nine?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Whoa right there on the edge?

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Right there?

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yeah, they referenced disco in the first episode, and I
was like, Oh.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I can't think of.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
Like a female like ensemble cast before this.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
I've been trying to I haven't done like an actual
like study yet, but I.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Mean, we want to do a deep dive. We can
do a deep dive.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Listeners, please let us know. I'm having a hard time thinking,
like I can think.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Of shows after this, but not before.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
This show became so popular they used it to launch
the Golden Girls.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's insane. They moved nine year old was launching the
Golden Girls.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
That's I'm telling me.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
A couple seasons later, like basically Golden Girls launching my
T eighty five, and they moved Facts of Life to
Saturday in order to then have Golden Girls follow it.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Wow, if you like young ladies, we've got old ladies.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
We got the old ladies.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
No one in between, yeah, there is, there is no
in between.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I don't want to see a middle aged lady around here.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
Okay, oh yeah's a designing woman.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah right? And so did you like it?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Yeah, oh yeah. I think what I what I said
earlier remains true. Of like, it's not my favorite thing ever,
my favorite thing that we've watched, but I really liked it.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
All right, So is it progressive? Is it a feminist?
Is it one or both of those?

Speaker 5 (34:28):
I mean, there's my usual. We've got to diversify these shows.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
And also for Kim Fields to be so young and
the lead is really incredible and we cannot take away
from that and truly a testament to her, like she's
so funny, like her timing is so great, and then
watching her later when she is actually an adult, it

(34:54):
only gets better. I mean, given that we cannot think
of a show before this female ensemble, I think that
is incredibly progressive. And to say that you cleared the
way for Golden Girls, I think is no small feat.
And also I think this is where it's like the
subject matter is very of its time and that's where

(35:17):
it kind of loses its progress, Like me, to dedicate
a whole episode to a joint, like are you kidding me?
Jermaine Jackson was considered a big deal, like right, yeah,
you know, there are some things that certainly date it,

(35:39):
which is to be expected, you know, Like they were
talking about the things that mattered to teenage girls at
that time, and I think that is also really progressive,
because it's still hard to find shows that speak to
that demographic.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Specifically, my oldest.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
Niece is just about eleven and is peak in that
stage of like all of the shows that her sisters
watch feel like baby shows because they're six and almost three.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
But she's certainly not old enough.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
I'm not gonna watch Insecure with her, like right, Like,
like I recognize there are limits, like, but they're like
the teenage girl genre I think is still really stagnant today,
and it's hard to find a show for that age

(36:30):
group with a diverse group of bodies, of races.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Background like all of these things.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
Like like I said, each girl served an archetype and
that was better than having a cast of thirty girls
in the first season I filled seven.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Yeah with me? Is that rate never.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
But I still think it's hard to find a show
today for that demographic that is grounded in any sense
of react because even like this is no Shade, No.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Tita Hannah Montana.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
We love Miley, right, but like there's nothing grounded in
reality of that show.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Like that was the fun of it. That was the point.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
And like even like that whole era of Disney and
like teen drama or like the Summer I Turned Pretty
or like you know, all of these things are supposed
to be for that age group, like very unrealistic, and
we love it and we have fun. But I think
there's something really beautiful about the facts of life, being

(37:32):
like these are just four girls in high school legitimately
trying to figure it out and growing together.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah, I mean I agree, Go ahead, Megan.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah, I was gonna say, definitely feminist and more progressive
than I thought it would be. And Sarh at your
point is really great about like part of it being progressive,
being like whose stories are we including in that including
age as well, and like accurately speaking to a teenage
experience without speaking down to them too. That was really cool.

(38:06):
And yeah, I think, yeah progressive with the same caveats
that we.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Usually gave to it.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
The centering of a person of color is really awesome.
That's one person, though, and everyone else is not. And
I again, we only watched a certain segment of characters.
But it also seems like into the I keep just
wanting to use the word extended universe, and that is
not the right word for this, but superhero movies have
broken me. But into the extended universe of it, it

(38:36):
seems like, yeah, it's not as diverse as we would
like to see, but really awesome to have a bunch
of women on screen just talking about life.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
You take the good with the bad, and that's the
facts of life. Okay, yeah, the theme song? Now, uh, Megan,
had you heard the theme song before? No?

Speaker 5 (39:00):
But I suddenly realized so many parodies that I had heard,
and I went, oh, oh, like if you've watched the
completely unhinged YouTube sensation too many Cooks, I went, oh, yes, okay,
I get it.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
I love if so many jokes got to click for
you again.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yes, I was like, oh that was also funny because
of this, I get it.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
As we showed our kids stuff from you know, the
seventies and eighties, inevitably they'd go oh, I saw Simpson's
episode that was like, or my other favorite is well
it's just like Lego Star Wars and you're like, no,
it's opposite.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
I do feel like Dash and I have a similar
sensibility in that we were raised by parents.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
Who like watched what they watched.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Like I'll never forget babysitting Dash once and he was like,
I would like to watch The Three Stooges before bed please.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
I was like, okay, kid, and that's a plus parenting.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, fall work.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
Or the time that he wanted to watch Ghost and
I was convinced that he was not allowed to, and
he was like, I've seen it before, and I made
him like shot for shot, tell me what it was
about to prove that he had seen it, and he
got it.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
He nailed it.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
That was bad parenting, but you know we it was great.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Parenting we had.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
I would like, Dash, oled, this feels like a trap.
This feels I could quote most of Young Frankenstein by
the time I was nine, and like, didn't know what
I was saying, but could quote it. You're fine, Yeah,
I mean I think you're doing great.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Wait, thank you listen. He's graduating high school.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
So we did soft, short, but sounds great in two weeks.
Oh right, my god, Okay, this has been amazing. Any
last of thoughts have been any anything you want to promote?

Speaker 6 (41:13):
I want to find the Facts of Life streaming where
it can be my new background, Joe.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
You know, like it's quality.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
Yeah, just like have it running while you're doing stuff
around the house.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
You're going to get a few jokes. You're going to
get a few like oh, and you're gonna have a
nice time.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
We would like to formally request to anyone with the
appropriate power listening that the Facts of Life be streamed
somewhere where we can actively consume it.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
And I believe there will be several episodes that will
come on and will be on the background. The next
thing you know, you'll be sitting down in front of
your television watching And.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
That's what I'm looking forward. That's what I want, you know.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yeah, I think it was surprising and revisiting it because
I kind of thought it was fluffier than it was
in my memory, because again I was a little bit
moving on from kids shows. Sharon definitely was beyond it.
But if you are going to watch anymore, I would
recommend you look at the bonus episodes, but also the

(42:14):
cousin Jerry Jerry Jewele, who was a young comedian with
cerebral palsy, was on the show as a recurring character
and was the first woman of disability maybe person of
disability as a recurring character on a television show.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
She was just this.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Very funny comedian who then sort of got this platform
that was even bigger than her comedy. And it was
just kind of really that felt really special even as
it was happening. And then you know, and then it
just it's a show that just kept going like they
should have graduated in two years like the older girls.

(42:52):
And then they just keep hanging out with you know,
Edna's Edibles.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
I think there's edibles even when it burns down, We're
going to bring this baby back, which also Edna's Edibles
would be a.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Great strand.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
It's surprised it must exist somewhere, you would think it must.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
It must.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Are you looking for a warm and cozy feeling before
ben Edna's Edibles?

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Yeah, so we're gonna I think in our description we'll
also post the full list of episodes that were recommended
by our listeners. But you know, it's always fun. I
know Sergio would have thrown a whole other way into it,
so we're gonna find out what he thought. I wait
to hear what he thought, though, I know are you

(43:39):
going to keep watching?

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Definitely the ones that are like on too be. Yeah,
I'll go back to some of those episodes for sure.
I think I'm just more curious too about like, Okay,
if this is how they handled these things, what else
were they what else were they tackling?

Speaker 4 (43:54):
It didn't make our lists, But Natalie has some amazing episodes.
So Natalie is a I was going to say, yes, Oh,
Natale is adopted, and they do a couple of episodes
working on that.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (44:09):
I know there's an episode about Natalie's weight and like
crash dieting and the dangers of it. I think I
appreciate how much depth they gave her, again for a
stereotypical character that usually is just a punchline.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah. Other Natalie episodes that are also very compelling. And
she accidentally finds out that her father is having an affair. Yeah.
And then there's the episode I don't know if it's
in the same season and next season when he unexpectedly
passes away and I believe we have the first Shiva

(44:47):
on network television.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Groundbreaking, yes, yeah, things like that, and then the comedian
that you were talking about as well, like those are
just quietly groundbreaking things, which I think is so important,
Like yes, we should celebrate glass ceiling shattering and like
new ground being broken, but also sometimes the most effective
way is exactly what they're doing, which is just like

(45:11):
why is it this normal? It's going to be normal
here we are.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Yeah, since here the girls aren't Jewish, they get to
explain everything. Blair gets upset that all the mirrors are
covered and she can't see herself.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
It's great fun, but you know, Blair also gets a
chance to display more depth than you would expect from
this pamper princess. You know, yes, she is that, but
that's not all she is, which is also nice to see.
In a lot of hands, she would have just been
that stereotypical, indulged teenager that came from wealth and you know,

(45:44):
thinks that everything she thinks is right and perfect and
not have any room in her heart for anybody else.
But she has more depth than that, which is also
great to see. There's so many things about this show
that just made it such a good one for teenagers.
I think to watch then and now for that matter.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Yeah, and it just now reminded me of a different world.
And Whitley, she's Whitley and yeah, so I don't know,
it's interesting looking at those sort of in the same era.
Oh my gosh, thank you. So anything you want to promote,
anything happening, you know, anyone goes, send you some baby

(46:21):
baby clothes, you know, your thoughts.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
And prayers, viper fund, venmo atsrita fonta. But listen, as
my grandma says, it all spends. I am taking five
months off for Leaf, which is incredible.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
I'm building a list of.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
Programming, so if you have recommended shows, movies, I've got
some stuff that I've been meaning to put on, so
I am seeking recommendations. Please know that I just watched
The Wild Robot and it made me hysterically crash, So
be mindful of what you're recommending me.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
It's all a new parent watching The Wild Robot is.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
I was like, oh, this is gonna be a classic,
like a little bit of a bummer at the beginning,
and then we have a fun little adventure and like cute,
and it's done.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
I was wrong. I cried multiple times throughout that film.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
But yes, if you have recommendations for a postpartum mom
and petite bebet, send him my way. Little baby THEO,
Little Baby THEO. My biggest fears that he won't think
I'm funny, so I'm handling parenting really well.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
Oh no, that's legit though, yeahs devastating.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
If what if we just look at each other all
day and he's like, your jokes aren't good. But he
can't even communicate that, like I can't get feedback to improve.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Babies are easy, though, aren't they? They're very easily entertained.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
Man. My knees was a tough cookie really, which I
am her favorite.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Okay, there you go, but but here's the thing. You
often get the one that you can't break.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
That suits, No, I'm already aware. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Dashel, just like particularly Rich Rich would try so hard,
and Dashel was like, no, absolutely not, absolutely not. He
more appreciates it now. But my favorite thing was, and
you'll enjoy this was just like playing with Dashel on
the lawn and just like picking clovers out of the

(48:48):
are crazy lawn. It was unbelievable, Like, yeah, the fascination
of the physical world is something that is so wonderful.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
I mean that they have to.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Be Larva for a little bit and then then they
can get that hauscinated with the physical world. That was
really special to me.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Yeah, that was probably.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I'm excited to see how the dogs really take too.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
Oh yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Know Parker lost his mind.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Yeah, can I tell you that. I think Dust is
going to lose it.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
Yeah, Dandling's prepared.

Speaker 6 (49:20):
Yeah, I think I think Guster's gonna have a hard time.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Have the dog. Have the dogs figured out that you're
that you're carrying something that.

Speaker 6 (49:30):
Does Gus has started doing this thing where when he
sleeps next to me, his nose has to be touching me,
which that's new. And band It either wants to lay
on my feet or he'll put his head on my
belly a lot, and he sniffs my belly a lot.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
So I think I think they have caught on that
something is happening.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
And then we're going to do the whole like bring
the baby blanket home before we come home so they
can like smell and because the bandit's a shepherd, so
I think he's just sort of like we have a
new charge, Like, yeah, I've got a new member of
the herd. Gus is also mostly blind despite being three,
and so I think he might have.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
A harder time adjusting.

Speaker 6 (50:19):
He's also been the baby up until this point, so
I think he's gonna have a little bit of like,
what are you? What is this?

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Oh my gosh, it's gonna be so much fun. Thank
you again, It's so delightful. Always make me very happy
inside to see you guys.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
And yeah, oh, can I shout and do anything to
promote Yeah, yeah, let me shout out three things really quick.
If you're in the Los Angeles area, I'm producing a
fringe show. It is a ghost story. We don't get
a ton of horror theaters. So give us a follow
at Day for Night Productions, and night is spelled like
the thing with a lance, not the time of day. Yeah,

(50:58):
give us a follow on Instagram or if you just
type in day for Night, it'll redirect you to the
fringe site. It's called the Visitor. Also, I'm acting in
Shakespeare by the Sea in June and July. Even if
you don't make it out, they're an awesome company, and
go check like, give them a follow see what they're
up to. They're really lovely people and treat their actors
very well and should be rewarded for that. And then finally,

(51:21):
like just as the final thing that I'm trying to
focus on more and more in my life, arts funding
is like really really really really under attack right now.
And there's the biggest organization I can point you towards
is Arts for LA. They often have like just click
and it'll tell you the next thing to do, whether
it like a phone number pops up with who to
call and a script for you to say to them

(51:43):
of like what you're trying to advocate for, or it's
one of those pre written emails that if you have
five minutes you can personalize. If you don't have any time,
you just hit scent. It's really imperative right now that
we make as much noise as possible and go support
your local theater, Like just go see a play that
you've never heard of with people I've never heard of
in it. We need the love right now.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
I totally agree. Excellent, well done. I just added it
to our audiography.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yay.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
Arts for Alas they're rat They do a lot of
training programs too, if you're ever interested in how to
scream loudly at the right people. It's one of my
favorite activities.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
It's an art form.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
Yeah, like sitting or pro I was like, I just
know screaming and I feel like I'm screaming into a void.
So tell me to screaming.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
Handle this screaming to the people who really deserve it.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
It's very fun.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, thank you guys so much. We'll think it's been
so much fun as always, Sergio, what.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Do you think now to Sergio with the weather?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Oh, oh my gosh, all right, thank you so in
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Speaker 3 (53:26):
Megan's Hollywood Friend show the Visitor. You can find the
information about where to get tickets, when and where it's
going to be in our show notes. And also just
a reminder about the organization she mentioned Arts for La,
which you can find at Artsforla dot org.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
You can watch season two and three of the Facts
of Life on two b for free, and you can
I think buy season two or three one of those
on Amazon, but it's really hard to find, so I
recommend we'll have some. I found some of the episodes
on Daily Motion and on YouTube that we were trying

(54:05):
to show the ninety CV babies. So keep searching and
tell your streamers that you want the Facts.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Of Life, and don't forget to check your local library.
They may have DVDs available that you can borrow. That's right,
you can always find DVD's.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
My new favorite place to find DVDs for sale is
on eBay. And then I want to wish everyone a
happy Pride month.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
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Well next time. Our next episode is so exciting I know,

(55:12):
I cannot wait.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
I can't believe we get to end to season three
with such a blast from the past. We are going
to have on an eighties movie icon and two time
Emmy winning actor from the incredible television show Two and
a Half Men, mister John Cryer is coming on the show.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Get ready for a wonderful conversation with mister Cryer. We
laughed and we learned so much about him in his
crazy eighties, which led him through a life of acting.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
You don't want to miss it, and we'll explain in
the episode how the interview came to be.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
So tune in. We hope Eighties TV Ladies brings you
joy and laughter and lots of fabulous new and old
shows to watch, all of which will lead us forward
towards being amazing ladies of the twenty first century.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Let's go like those nineties Stevie babies. We love them.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Babies Deep had Alex Hand so pretty deep, hang out
into the City's deep and treated getting God pull the
money in the man world. Had

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