Filmmaker Oz Rodriguez

On this special episode, Jeff speaks with filmmaker Oz Rodriguez about his new feature film Miguel Wants To Fight. Oz shares his story, from watching Indiana Jones and Hitchcock movies as a child in the Dominican Republic, to arriving in Los Angeles to work on Funny Or Die, and his move to New York to direct for Saturday Night Live. We discuss the importance of Hispanic Heritage Month, his directorial feature film Vampires vs. the Bronx, the excitement of winning an Emmy, and his new Netflix series Neon!

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Hello everybody, and welcome back toa Film by podcast. I'm Jeff Johnson
and I am very happy to haveOz Rodriguez on the show with us today.

(00:37):
Oz. Hello, welcome, sir, Hello, Hello, thank you,
Thank you for having me very excitedto talk anything that includes the word
film in it. You were onthe right show, my friend. He
look, our listeners know here wewe loved a wax intellectual about Hollywood's best

(00:57):
directors, biggest directors. They're nderratedhits, what we love about them,
and on occasion we get to talkwith the director. So this is absolutely
a treat for us. Oz.How about we start with how you got
into the business. Uh, yeah, it started the beginning in the Caribbean

(01:19):
jungle. I'm from the Dominican Republicfrom Santo Domingo. Yeah, I grew
up in the Caribbean, and we'rethere is where I started watching movies and
getting obsessed with them. My momis an avid film watcher. She can
sit down and watch two or threemovies and on a Sunday and and you

(01:44):
know, think nothing of it.So yeah, I think she probably had
parted that sort of love of ofcinema. Huh. And yeah, I
think I growing up, I wasreally attracted to movies, but in the
Dominican Republic, I didn't know whatto do with this love for movies because

(02:04):
there was no film school there atthe time. So then I graduated high
school. I studied advertising actually atuniversity. And while I was doing that,
I was saving money and doing researchand I found the school online.
It's called the LA Film School.It was a year program. I'm like,

(02:25):
that sounds great, let's do that. So I moved to La.
I didn't know anyone. The littlemoney had saved, and I went to
the school. It was a yearschool, and I met a bunch of
really good people that some of themmight still work with today. And you
know, you go to film school, do the thing you learn, You
watch movies and you have this knowledge. But then like when you're out there,

(02:49):
you know, you're like, Hollywood, what can I do in Hollywood?
It's like, ah, go away. So I think it's you know,
it's always important for you to startdoing something yourself. So you got
something to show and and and startedmaking a mark. So that didn't come
right away. I actually started workingin the LA Film School, and I
worked in the equipment room and That'show I started borrowing some cameras to then

(03:14):
make some sketches with my friends,and then we put those online. And
the beginning of like YouTube sounds likea hundred years ago, but yeah,
we we uh we we were doingthat and making a little bit of money
and then we uh me and somefriends we got hired at Funnier Die.

(03:35):
That website started with We'll Will Ferrelland that on McKay And that was like
another film school because I was workingwith celebs of all kinds, like a
too D list, and it waslike the first time I like worked with
a red camera or like there waslike a truck full of lights, like

(03:58):
an equipment truck. So that wasreally a great experience, and I think
it was sort of a low stresspreparation for what came next when the Major's
called and SNL gave me a job. So I moved to New York City
to the very chill job that isSaturday Night Live with no pressure at all.

(04:19):
We have all the time in theworld to do your work. Yeah.
No, it was, Yeah,it tremendously wild and different experience and
you sort of just hold on tothat train and just try not to fall
off. I mean obviously that changedmy life. Like getting a job at

(04:42):
at that American cultural institution, Let'ssay it was incredible, and I learned
so much just because like there wasconstant work, you were doing a sketch
every week and and and definitely learnedreally quickly what works and what doesn't because
the audience tells you right away they'relike nope, not laughing. And then

(05:03):
also like developed my sort of mygut instincts. I because in my time
there, everything that could go wrongon a set went wrong for me,
So I like I could sort ofsee problems coming a mile ahead. Uh
you know, I got a blizzarddumped on me, a thunderstorm too,
all kinds of shit. That washow I got to SNL. That is

(05:25):
a little bit of my story.I gotta imagine leaving home for Los Angeles.
That's got to be as frightening asit is exciting. My question to
you was was Hollywood? Was it? Was it what you expected, like
Los Angeles, like the culture there, you know from what you had seen
on TV or what you expected.Was it was it a culture shock or

(05:46):
was it like, Yeah, thisis exactly this is exactly what I thought
it would be. Yeah, itwas a little bit of a shock.
I mean I had family. Ihad family in the East Coast, so
New York, Miami, so I'dbeen to the States. But LA is
its own sort of different animal,if you will. And like I remember,
I remember going to like the Walkof Fame and sort of where it

(06:09):
starts, which is not in frontof the Chinese theora where it's a little
grimy, let's say, and Iwas like, oh, this is a
dirty guys. Somebody has to cleanthis these stars. That was sort of
my first indication that like, huh, things are not as they seem.
Uh, But yeah, I know, I think, like definitely a little

(06:30):
bit of a culture shock. Man. I didn't have a car for like
the first year, so that wasinteresting. And they got it moved close
to the LA Film School, LikeI was a few blocks away, so
I like I didn't have to schlipthe camera to too far. But then
like that that school was like ayear long program and it was an intense

(06:51):
not intense, but like they giveyou a camera the first day and like
you you're expected to deliver a shortthe first week, and they're really it's
it's built, so you do shitand I feel like that's something that's sort
of tried to carry with me asfar as like, ah do stuff,

(07:12):
because you can always rely on thatwhenever you feel weird and you're like,
where the fuck am I? Iguess let's go to work. So you
know, you mentioned your mother kindof helped you find this passion for filmmaking.
Was there was there specific movies,specific movie stars like who who inspires
osre Riguez at this point? Somy mom, you know, I was

(07:34):
watching all kinds of stuff and obviouslyinto genre stuff, like I loved Indiana
Jones, that's my dude. Butyou know, growing up in the Dominican
Republic, every movie is foreign,Like the most movies we got are American
movies. But I was also exposedto Spanish movies. And I've watched a

(07:55):
lot of better on my lower movieswith my mom and my sister too.
And I remember one time she maybeshe was like, you've seen these Indiana
Jones movies way too many times.You should check out this movie Vertigo by
Hitchcock. Oh wow. I waslike yeah, And I was like,
all right, mom, And I'dheard her talk about how like she was

(08:16):
affected by that movie and I rememberwatching it, and by the end of
it, I remember my feeling.My first felom was like, Wow,
could they make movies like that?Like that, Like the ending is so
shocking. So that's a movie thatI remember sort of being like, Oh,
there's other stuff out there that likeis not just just sort of pure

(08:39):
joy and fun and and and silliness. Like some stuff can make you think
and and can make you feel notgreat too afterwards. So yeah, I
mean, I just devoured movies alot. I think by personality I myself,
I like to not take things tooserious, so I tend to just

(09:01):
want to make people laugh. Butbut I'll watch anything. Sometimes I actually
watch less comedies than than other genres, only because, like, I work
on it so much that sometimes youwant to like not like I don't even
want to see people laughing. Ijust had a great day filming with comedians.
Let me give me some sadness orlike some some good crime. Yeah,

(09:22):
I love it. This this pastAugust, Hulu, you know we're
getting I'm seeing the promos, I'mseeing this. I see this trailer for
Miguel Wants to Fight, and justbased off the trailer, I'm like,
Okay, that's that's got a uniquelook to it that looks like it could
be fun. I watched this,you know, and you know, apologies
because I didn't I didn't know.I didn't know your work at that point.

(09:43):
I mean, I knew your work, I just didn't know that I
knew your work. So let's talka little bit about Miguel wants to Fight?
Can you? Can you share alittle bit. Let's start off with
the writing process. You write this, You co write this with with Chay
Serrano and Jason Kossop Soon Is thatcorrect? No, they they were the
writers, and I was lucky enoughto just sort of get sent the script

(10:03):
one day, and uh yeah,I really responded to it. It had
so many things that I was sortof looking for in movies and I'd like
to watch too. I uh,well, first, his name is Miguel,
so that immediately I'm like, well, he's a Latino kid, so
almost I basically was in right away. And then I loved the sort of

(10:26):
the story and how it deals withsort of the coming of age aspect and
sort of finding yourself and being comfortablein your own skin. And then you
add some fun actions, action beatsand some funds or recreations of movies that
I've grown up loving. So itfelt like a no brainer to me,
like I need to be involved.Okay, so we've got four sensational young

(10:48):
actors in this film. Were youwere you involved in the casting process or
you know, did you read withthese actors or can you tell us a
little bit about that? Yeah?No, that was that was the That
was basically the Hulu basically was like, let's see if we can find these
actors, because if we don't,like the movie is these four kids.
So if like if we don't findthese teenagers and we don't make this movie.

(11:11):
So uh now we looked all overthe world literally and and we we've
we It's one of those things wherelike, you know, you see a
bunch of people and people feel okay, but then like someone like Tyler shows
up and you're like, oh,yeah, that's it. That's that's the
one. Or Christian who who playsDave David or Surge who plays a SERENI

(11:33):
like they're there, they had thatlike they you just knew something. You
just like you saw them and youknew. But we're doing this in in
over zoom, so we're still livingin a post pandemic world. So you're
casting with people on zoom, andthat's that's tricky because when you're in the

(11:54):
same room with someone, it's easierto sort of exchange ideas and something and
and something's just like the zoom sucks, the connection sucks some random dude outside
of the leaf flower and you can'tcontrol that. Uh. So we we
we found the four actors that wewanted for the teenagers, but we needed

(12:15):
to see if they could work welltogether, because that's that's the whole movie.
So we did a chemistry read butalso on zoom gosh the actors as
well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's there's a lot of that
happening right now. But it's yeah, it's tough. It's tough, and

(12:37):
uh somehow we we we did it. And even with like it's like in
this form, which is not theideal form, and and one of the
actors, like internet was off,so like he was like coming in a
little late. But even even likethat, you could tell there's something here,
like there's this core is fun andI think I think this is the

(13:01):
right way to do it. Yeah, and then once we found those four
actors, sort of like that ledto getting people like oh, well,
I see you, and and justfilling out the cast. But yeah,
it all started with them. AndI think one of the biggest compliments I've
received is people think they were bestfriends before we shot the movie, and

(13:22):
they actually met in person a weekbefore we shot, so the us to
them. Yeah, the chemistry thatthese four have, it's it's so impressive
because when you know, when you'rewatching a film and it's and it's got
young young you know, the charactersare young actors or I'm sorry, the
characters are our young people. Sometimesthere's a preconceived notion of what their dialogue

(13:46):
would sound like, right, AndI gotta tell you, you guys nailed
it with this because they're having conversationslike that kind of took me back to
high school and I thought, yeah, this is how we This is how
me and my best friends talk,this is this is how we treated each
other. So there, their chemistryis fantastic. One question I have for
you the character of Miguel, heis he's such a sweet kid, you

(14:09):
know, and the irony is thatwhen you when you pull up Tyler Dean
Flores on IMDb. His the firstpicture you see of him, he looks
so intense. I mean, helooks like he's gonna whip your ass.
So was that was that a situationwhere are you looking at headshots before you're
seeing him on zoom? Because ifI'm looking at this picture of Tyler Dean

(14:31):
Flores, I'm like, this isn'tI'm googling. I'm googling it right now
because I need to know what photoit is. Oh, I'm telling you,
oh interesting, Yeah, so yousee it what I'm seeing. It's
I have a story about this photoactually, but it's not about Miguel.
No. He came in, hecame in, he didn't have braids,
he had his long he looked verymuch like he looks in the movie.

(14:52):
And because we were like just keepthat same the like had his long hair
sort of in a ponytail and rare, like, yeah, just keep that
look. It looks it looks cooland like you don't look different than other
type of heroes and movies. SoI loved it. But yeah, that
photo actually is from some other movie. But uh, I ended, uh,

(15:15):
well, i'll tell you later.Well, we talked about we talked
about the future projects. I'll bringup that photo okay, story. Yeah,
because I'm telling you right now,you look at that photo. I'm
if I'm the director, I'm makinga mistake of saying, you know what,
that's not Miguel, but let's let'sread him for Damien because he looks
he looks scary. So yeah,uh, you mentioned we got we got

(15:39):
a couple of other great actors actresses. What was it like working with with
Dasha? Because I loved I lovedher on Orange's New Black, So when
I saw her in the film,I was like, oh, right,
you know, and she's got oneof the She's got some very funny scenes
too. She's awesome. Dasha's adream. I have known her for a

(16:00):
little bit, so honestly, itwas I asked her for a favor.
I texted her and I was like, do you uh, would you mind
come to this ridiculous role. Ihave to call you tell you what happens
to her because I do not wantto text what happens her? Oh man

(16:21):
uh And I yeah, I basicallyasked her for a favor. I was
like, this is the story,and this is what we're doing, and
you don't mind giving us a coupleof days of your time? And she's
the best. She said, Charlotte, do is she went up to Syracuse
and got punched. We'll leave itat that because I want to I don't

(16:44):
want to spoil that for for ourlisteners haven't yet seen this, because it's
it's one of the funnier moments.And I mean, Miguel has some very
embarrassing moments in this movie. Uhand outside of Bona Lisa, that's definitely
one of the more embarrassing moments forhim. The world is telling him not
to get in a fight, andhe's absolutely, so absolutely you. I

(17:06):
know, we mentioned you mentioned earlierjust shortly ago. This film kind of
pays amage to like a couple acouple of classic films, a couple of
big films entered The Dragon and theMatrix. Most notably were other films considered
early on in the writing process orin the filming process, or is it
was it always like this is who, this is the these are the movies

(17:26):
that Miguel responds to. There wereother films considered, for sure. I
think any of The Dragon and theMatrix were always sort of what they were.
The last battle was something else.Actually, it was a Matt Max
Fury Road thing, and I waslike, guys, we can't afford that

(17:48):
there's no desert in Syracuse. ButI think also like it opened up the
conversation. I was like, well, the movie starts talking about one punch
Man, what if it's an anime? So that that sort of came from
that. And yeah, I meanI think Entered the Dragon and Matrix,
But in those scenes, there areso many other little nods to other films,

(18:08):
like getting End of the Dragon.I'm a big old action movie nerd,
so that Enter of the Dragon sequencethere's nods to three different Bruce Lee
movies. There's nods to Jackie Chan, there's nods to Steve mi Shao and
Donnie Yen and probably one more I'mforgetting right now. Well, let's you
got the QT reference too, youknow when he walks in. Yeah,

(18:30):
we made fun. Why you justlike the girl from Kill Bill Scheme of
Death? You know? Yeah,dude, I loved it. It's it's
fascinating to me. I mean,Enter the Dragon celebrates its fiftieth anniversary this
year. Yeah, and it's stillrelevant, you know, and and and
it's because of it's because of filmmakerslike you that that's that's keeping it alive.
I loved those moments in this film, you know, absolutely loved it.

(18:55):
Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it's Bruce Lee's a turtle man,
It's it's a It was so funto like build that action scene in
like in the middle of punches wherewe're like, oh, what if we
reference this thing? And what ifwe referenced that thing right there? And
that. It was such a blast, dude to to to think about it.

(19:17):
It was definitely hard to shoot,but I can imagine the dreaming part
was very fun. Yeah. Well, this movie as funny as it is,
and there's so many great comedic beats. I really appreciate the fact that
there's a there's a real heartfelt storyhere, you know, a father and
son's story. I wasn't expecting becauseI didn't really see that in the trailer,

(19:37):
so I wasn't ready for it.But it really makes an impact.
Yeah, I mean, I thinkit all. It all sort of goes
back to Miguil and his world andlike his like drive to like want to
fight and his drive don't want tofight is related to his environment, his
friends, his family. In away, he's surrounded by violence and people

(19:59):
are fighting in the town. Hisdad's a boxing coach and he there's there's
a lot of sort of teenager feelingsthere that I wanted to sort of like
capture because we've all sort of hadthose emo emotions. So I think,
yeah, it was a vital partof the story as far as like,
this is a person that his dadlike accepts him for who he is and

(20:25):
tells him that they love him forwho he is. He doesn't have to
fight and they just want him tobe his self, his dorky as self
that makes Naruto videos at the park. So yeah, it was a nice
like it was a nice way tosort of comment on on sort of boyhood,

(20:45):
if you will, and like whatit means to be a man and
sort of like violence, do youhave to partake in it? All these
heavy things that like obviously we're notlike let me tell you about these things,
but like I think those are sortof interwoven in that relationship, and
also just show a loving relationship betweena dad and his son, which is
like sometimes not shown as much.So this film comes out, I feel

(21:08):
it's coming out at a very importanttime because we are we are coming towards
the end like you know, it'sobviously it's it's a Hispanic Heritage Month.
We celebrate that annually from September fifteenthto October fifteenth, OS as we strive
to champion diversity, equality inclusion.Do you have any any thoughts you can

(21:30):
share on how Hispanic heritage can becelebrated in the film industry or how we
can do a better job. Iwould say it could be celebrated by giving
me and other Latino directors more jobs. That would be the best way to
absolutely, yes, more opportunities.And also like also I think Hispanic Heritage

(21:53):
Month is amazing, but also notjust like saving everything for that month.
I think sort of having a planfor Latino stories, not just for that
chunk of time, but just forlike the future. And uh, I
add some of it is by givingwriters, Latina writers, directors, cinematographers,

(22:18):
everyone that works in the crew achance. So yeah, I mean
I am hopeful for the future.I think I think I would be facetious
if I wasn't because I've made twofeatures with a lot of latinos. I
can't believe they let me have allthose Latinos in there. And then I

(22:41):
just finished this pilot for a showthat comes out in October nineteenth about this
kid that moves to Miami to makeit in the Regaton industry, also starring
Tyler Dean Flores who plays Miguel,And that is also another show with a
bunch of people from the Caribbean Diannaeus. So, you know, I started

(23:02):
the answer with like, I feellike there could be more, but there's
we're also making stride, So youknow, I feel like you always want
more, but I must admit thatwe some things are happening and it's up
to all of us to sort ofpush it through and hopefully and also support
it and demand more of it.I guess, well, yeah, So

(23:25):
I mean I'm thinking like this summer, we DC finally gives us our first
Latina superhero, you know, withthe Blue Beetle Solomon Dwight. He did
amazing in that film. I don'tknow if you saw it. I'm a
you know, I love the superherogenre. I don't care how many they
make, I'll go see them.I wasn't even familiar with that character that

(23:45):
much, and I feel it's oneof the better DC films that they've made
in the past, you know,five ten years so I agree with you.
I feel like, yeah, we'restarting to see progress. We just
need more of it, right mmhmm yeah, I I uh, I
hope there's a Latino superhero Marvel andanother and the Latino Superhero Team one day

(24:11):
and like all the things uh uhand not just uh. I think representation
all kinds, and it's superheroes inhorror movies. I'll take anything. Uh
yeah, it's it's it's slowly,slowly making gains here. Yeah, you
know you mentioned horror films. Ialways think of Julie Carmen in Fright Night
Part two because look, I'm ahot take. Fright Night two is better

(24:33):
than Fright Night. I'm gonna say, well, it's it's, it's it's
listen. I love Chris Saranon,but when Regime comes on the screen at
that age, I was mesmerized,you know, absolutely loved her. So
now I gotta go watch Fright Nighttoo. Yeah you've not seen it's been
well while it's almost like I haven'tseen it because it's been so long.

(24:56):
Okay, good, because I didsee Fright Night, but Fright Nights for
when I was prepping vampires. ButI I must admit I did not catch
up on two again, So it'stime. It is time. Oz ms
Carmen is just sensational, you know. I A all right, Well,

(25:18):
we're gonna take a quick break andwhen we get back, we'll continue to
talk with Oz and we'll we'll dipinto his his background, his filmography,
as it were, Welcome back,we are talking with filmmaker Oz Rodriguez.
Oz, you have got some greatstuff that I want to talk about,

(25:40):
if you, if you'll indulge us, let's start off with you know you
you'd already talked about Saurday Live.Uh, like what ten years with Saturday
with SNL. I gotta imagine you'vegot some uh maybe some favorite favorite cast
members, favorite crew to work with. Uh. Yes, yes, it's

(26:00):
the answer to all that. Yeah, I mean I came in the year
that, like people like Adie Bryantand Kate McKinnon came in and Cecily and
like I met Pete Davidson when hewas twenty years old, So yeah,
another lifetime ago. And I lovedworking with them so much, Like shooting

(26:21):
twin Bed, it was such afun Doing my twin Bed was such a
fun moment because we were talking likeyou know, Lonely Island had just left
and they had such a profound impacton the show, especially with music videos,
but there never been any like femaleled music video and that was the

(26:41):
first time that the show had triedit and it was a success, and
that was like a real That wasone of one really nice, awesome night
that like it feels really nice whensomething works, like when you bust your
ass and it works. There's nothinglike it. Yeah, And then as
far as crew, like, man, I I so I did this show.

(27:03):
I did this docu series called CreatingSNL and it's a short series on
YouTube. Yeah, I did thatbecause I was surrounded by all these amazing
crafts people, like everyone behind thescene was so incredible aut their job,
and I felt like the documentaries thatI had seen about SNL were talked about

(27:26):
the history, the cast, lornand maybe the writers, but I'd never
seen anything on makeup. Here,the sets, the photos and all that
shit is like amazing. So thatwas one of my favorite things that I've
done, just to like interview allthese amazing people I work with and just

(27:47):
sort of share their expertise and knowledgeand how insane and challenging their job is
so I think that just the crewin general that puts together eight Age is
there is nothing like it like theeight Age the studio for us and now
there's just nothing like the people thatwork there. It's after you work there

(28:11):
and you work another job, you'relike, oh, this is easy,
this is chill. The great thingabout Creating Center Live, like you're saying,
it's kind of like pulling the pullingthe curtain back and getting like a
behind the scenes look at everything thatgoes into this show, and it's it's
fascinating. You're nominated Creating Center Live, It's nominated for three mice and you

(28:33):
take one home in twenty nineteen,what what was that experience? Like?
I forgot to give you also afun story of real quick Oh please do
my first show night? I wasso like that first week hit me like
a ton of bricks because I justmoved to New York fall whether we're starting,
I was getting cold. I gotso busy, So I got a

(28:55):
cold and Saturday morning, Uh,I popped a dake Will just to like
make it through the day. Butthen I realized I had actually taken a
night wall Oh that's Saturday. Iwas like, Hi, out of my
just like Zong, just like livingin another world and also the pressure of

(29:17):
Saturday night life like my first show. So I was I was just like
in another dimension, like dimension isworld and finished our sketch as the previous
sketch was on TV. So,uh, when I work. When I
worked at SNL, I didn't haveany great hair listener. My hair is

(29:41):
full. Hey yeah, but listenit might be, but it is a
very impressive man. I mean youcan you can see me. As soon
as I realized, like I'm notgonna have hair like that, I just
started shaving it. So I waslike, yeah, but yeah, this
is this is a handsome guy we'retalking about it. I love it.
Thank you? Sorry? So whatwas your ship? I now forgot the

(30:03):
question the Emmy. Let's have aboutEmmy? I mean crazy, like you
know, truly being nominated is amazing, Like you go to this fancy ass
event and you wear tucks and you'resurrounded by famous people and you're in this
insane, insane event. Uh.So, yeah, we got nominated twice.

(30:30):
It was nice to go. Butthen the third year, I don't
know why. I was like,I feel like I feel like we got
it. This year. I don'tknow why. I was like, I
gotta I don't know why. Igot a good feeling. So I was
like, I feel like I shouldprepare a speech. I guess. And
I remember at the event being like, you don't know when your thing's coming
up. So and and the Emmysare actually a three night event. There's

(30:53):
so many Emmy categories that they do. There's a big show where they give
the awards to know the actors andwhatever, and the HBO shows and all
that, but then all sort ofthe other departments are done the previous weekend
on a Saturday and Sunday event thatis then sort of rebroadcast on effects or
something. But anyway, that's wherethey're like best Choreography, best Cinematography,

(31:18):
like a lot of sort of thecraft's awards. So a lot of awards
are given out that weekend, soyou don't know when yours is coming.
I had to pee, Oh no, and I was like, please God,
please, please please please let usbe soon because I have to pee,
and I also need a drink becauseI'm too nervous, and I need

(31:41):
to get over and we need toeither win or lose. Thankfully, it
happened in like the first thirty minutesfor forty five minutes, and it was
incredible. I honestly don't remember muchbecause I think I just blacked out from
like the insanity. I remember walkingtowards the stage and thinking, don't fall,
don't fall, please, don't fall, and then I said something and

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then we were out. It wasso fast. They gave me a huge
statue. Uh super heavy. Butyeah, man, it was a wild,
wild experience, wild night and uhuh yeah, pretty cool, pretty
pretty cool. So you had youyou worked with with Funnier Die. Uh
can we talk a little bit aboutJohn Carpenter presents Funnier Dies Halloween from twenty

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eleven. This is wow. Ihaven't I don't think I've ever been asked
that question. I can't wait.Really, let's see, Well Carpenter clearly
like you know, I mean I'ma big Carpenter fan. Yeah. Yeah,
And and he is what I'm seeingin the in this sketch, it's

(32:47):
just him being himself. I meanhe's just being very much. Yeah.
Was that was that? Was thathim just going, hey, I'll say
what I want, do what Iwant? Or is it like is he
taking direction? Like? How whatwas it? Like to do a director,
I guess my first question. Okay, so where to start. Yeah,
at Funnier Guy, sometimes we wouldjust creates like a situation where we

(33:16):
could then ask people we wanted towork with to come over. We were
like, what if we just makesome Halloween shit and treated almost like tails
from the Crips and we need ahost and then they make a bunch of
weird sketches. And that was kindof the beauty of Funnier Diet that you
could like go to the bosses andbe like what about this? And I'm

(33:36):
like, okay, especially if ifif it was cheap, and you know,
he came into the office, soI think somebody one of the producers
wives knew his wife and somehow gotto him, and I don't know,
I think he was like all right, and he just showed up. He's

(33:59):
like what the fuck is this?Or like we were all like it was
it was half like it was threeparts. There was the whoa John Carpenter.
There was the embarrassment of like,oh my god, he actually said
yes this, this is so stupid, and the awkwardness of directing this.
Uh sometimes cranky man, lovable crankyman. Yeah. So yeah, we

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directed it and like, uh kindof let him do his thing, and
I mean if he was uh cranky, it only made it funnier. And
uh we let him rip on thepiano and I mean, I see he
said yes to this is wild.Like we all got our posters signed.
It was a wonderful thing to say. That was that like a little bit

(34:44):
of like a hey, I'm on, I'm on the set, I'm the
boss, but I get to beI can kind of get the fan fan
boy out a little bit because thisis Scarpenter. I'm want his auditor.
I can't imagine what that be.Like. Oh yeah. We were like
at the end, we're like,I'm sorry, we had to. We
had to, And I I dothat a lot. I have no shame

(35:05):
of like asking autographs for it someof the people that I beat, because
like it's crazy the people in ofit. So uh, if I can,
I'll do it afterwards after we've we'vedone the work. It's not I
don't open with like, uh,anyone else on funni er guy that you
you just had a positive experience with, And I mean I imagine that's a

(35:28):
lot of it, but anyone standout where you're like, man, this
this one sketch we did. Youknow, anyone come to mind, Yeah,
yeah, I mean I think oneof the first sketches that like kind
of like it wasn't the first sketchwe did, but it was one of
the first. So and it kindof got us like no, I mean,
we already had the job, butit got us a little bit I
don't want to say respect in theoffice, but like people were like,

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oh, these dudes can do theirthing. Like we did this sketch with
Tim Roth called Prostitute, and uhwe were with fucking bringing Tim Roth and
North Hollywood, shooting on a fiveD this ridiculous idea where he is a
pimp for bros. So you canhave someone to hang with, and but

(36:14):
we shot it in this like verygrounded docu style, Like basically it was
those like it was it was inspiredby those documentaries about sex workers and HBO
that that that you'd see in thenineties, So we try to like give
this such stupid idea a very likegravitas type look. And it was the

(36:38):
best time. Tim Roth like gotit and he was so down to clown
and and man like, when youhave a talent like that, and he
is so committed and doing the lines. I mean, there's nothing like it.
Before we get away, Uh weget too far away from messin l

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Can we can we talk on thewhole uh piece on earth little rummer boy
sketch? Yeah, because I gotI listen. So here's the thing you're
bringing them. I'm complimenting you.You know, thirteen years ago the first
time I see this, because obviouslyit's a it's an iconic everyone knows the

(37:20):
whole Crosby Bowie thing. When Isee uh Ferrell and Riley doing this,
I remember saying, I don't knowwho came up with this or who's behind
this, but they're brilliant, they'regenius, and they're gonna they're gonna make
a big impact because this is awesome. Like, how do you do you
recall like how that came to be, like in the writing room, or

(37:43):
I don't recall how it came tobe because that was a typical funnier duy
thing where someone would say something andthen people would find it funny, and
all of a sudden you were onset the next day shooting that thing.
So it might have been like myhad even been like a will Ferrell like,
oh, what did you do this? Uh? Yeah, I don't

(38:05):
remember. I don't honestly remember whereit came from because like as far as
the writing, there wasn't like aton of writing because we were kind of
recreating a shot for shot. Uhbut yeah, I think once I heard
about it, I was like,oh, I'm in I need to work
on that. And yeah it wasso it was again just so much hard
work for something so stupid. Youwere like rented out all the frames and

(38:30):
we figured out all the shots andthe angles and we built the set and
then it was it was so funthat we also, like, you know,
there was a shoot day, butthe previous day we went to the
studio to record it. So I, you know, you're you're singing this
song. I was sinking, butI'm listening to a world Farrell and John

(38:51):
c Riley crack up and crack eachother up as they're recording. Uh,
drummer boy. It was. Itwas incredible. You have to like pinch
yourself. You're like, what thehell is happening here? Yeah, that
was a really fun. It wasjust a fun That was a really fun
shoot because like, uh, itwas it was truly a Christmas miracle because
everything went right, everything went great, there was no problems. I had

(39:15):
a great time, and we dida killer video at the end. So
it was it was, it wascool. Well, I'll be honest with
you. Every Christmas, Uh,there are staples in my house. Things
I'm gonna watch obviously, you know, the Peanuts Christmas Special, die Hard
and thanks to the Internet, Ialways pull up the the your version of

(39:37):
of Bowie and Crosby. I lovethat one. Nice. Nice, Well,
I'm glad you like it. That'sawesome. I uh ship, I'm
gonna pull it up again. Isee it in a while. So earlier
you were you were talking, wewere talking about some of your some of
your inspiration you you mentioned, wetalked a little bit about Vertigo. And

(39:59):
as I'm looking and through you yourfilmography, I noticed one of your one
of your your shorts talking about LatinoVortex. Has the has that Vertigo styled
poster for it. Yep, yougot it. Let's talk. Let's talk.
Let's talk about Latino. So LatinoVortex. First off, it's hilarious.

(40:21):
Let's talk a little bit about thatone. Because one thing I'm kind
of curious about. I want tolike the process directing a short versus an
a television episode versus a feature.Let's let's talk a little bit about the
differences, the challenge, the differentchallenges you might face. Mm hmm.
Well, I mean that was ashort that we did for the the YouTube

(40:50):
channel Mashart MHM and they were associatedto Broadway Video, which is the production
company that does SNL. So yeah, they were like a Latino YouTube channel,
and they were in the same building. They were in thirty Rock.
So I went up and I waslike, I want to make a short.
I want to make a short withDominicans. Yeah, I'd love that.
You guys can give me somebody topay for it. And they were

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like, here's a couple of thousanddollars. When you see something and they
put this in front of you,are you looking at it like Okay,
this is funny because it's true,or like, okay, this is a
little ridiculous. It's not like this, but I'm gonna go for because definitely
it's definitely true. It is somethingvery hard to leave a party like that.

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We all relied on our own experiences, and obviously you heighten in to
make it ridiculous, but it isdefinitely based on a kernel of truth.
Sometimes it is hard to leave.That's why sometimes you have to do the
was it Irish goodbye where you don'tsay goodbye, just get the f out
of there. That is very true. So we just took it to the

(41:57):
nth degree and and it was itwas a blast. We like, it
was basically like a bunch of favorsand I really just I knew those performers
like my Dias, and I kindof just wanted to do something fun with
it. Mike. It was trulylike a fun fun uh and exercise and

(42:19):
fun. It was all for fun. So so yeah, not a ton
of money, so uh the locationwas the main actress apartment, so there
didn't have to pay for location.Nice. So yeah, I just like
got a little bit of money forrenting, forgetting the camera and paying the
uh andy coogler who shot it theDP and then we paid uh sound dude,

(42:42):
and then ask a bunch of friendsthat come over and then we got
the pizza at the end. Sothat that was like that was very much
like film school, you know,back to basics kind of shooting and then
you know, features are definitely thecomplete up a set of that it's like
you prep for a month or moreand so many movie pieces and you want

(43:06):
to be also more ambitious. Butat the same time, like when you're
actually shooting it, it is thesame thing. Even if you are on
a huge production or if you're asmall thing and you sort of have to
You have the scene and you haveto capture in the best way possible.
Sometimes you just have more expensive camerasto do it right. Well, let's

(43:28):
talk about a feature let's talk aboutyour your feature film. Uh, let's
do it. Yeah, Vampires VersusThe Bronx. This is twenty twenty.
First off, again, I'm seeingI'm watching this a couple of years ago.
I'm like, man, this thisis pretty damn good. So it's
exciting to get to talk to theguy that made that film. Were you

(43:52):
inspired? I know you you kindof mentioned, you know, you said,
hey, I watched I watched TheFright Nights to get ready for Vampires.
The eighties kind of gave us thisthis kids versus monsters sub genre.
I can think of a couple ofgreat ones that I loved. Any of
them? Were they like, didyou take inspiration from Meriam? When you
when you're putting this this uh thiscast together and coming up with this story

(44:15):
from all of them, yes isthe answer, and from all of them
yes, uh yeah No. Imean it's very much like wanting to make
something that felt like those movies,but set in set now, make contemporary
story and set in a location thatwas not Suburbia that was the you know,

(44:37):
the Bronx that had this huge Dominicandiaspora, which was something I was
really interested in. Like it reallystarted with like, I want to make
a fun, sort of kids genremovie, but I want the kids to
look like myself and my friends whenwe were growing up. Like that was
sort of like the seed of theidea. So so one hundred percent Monster
Squad, Gooonies, Lost Boys,Fright Night. Yeah, yeah, for

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sure you mentioned Monster Squad and thatthat's the double feature I go with with
Vampires versus Brox. I'm like,all right, we're gonna we're gonna do
Monster Squad. We're gonna do Vampiresversus the Brocks, because like I feel
like those kids that you know,you captured that essence like this is this
is how kids talk, this ishow they behave. Yeah, fantastic film.
It's on Netflix. One thing again, you know what I love about

(45:22):
your trailers. Uh to to thesethese films, I'm yeah, I'm all
in because it's like, Okay,this looks like it's gonna be a fun
movie. And then there's a message, there's like a different there's another message,
there's there's more to the story.Uh, you know with vampires,
there's definitely a message about gentrification inthere, and and it's an important conversation

(45:43):
to have. And you know againobviously it's yeah it's vampires. Uh love
love the real estate name, youknow, based off of the whole not
sparatu. I was like, youknow, because I'm a horror I'm a
horror guy. I love I'm amovie nerd. I was like, wait
that I know what, I know, what's up? You know, and
uh, you know it. Soit has like a little bit of sailing
slot feeling where the vampires are kindof taken over, but but it's something

(46:06):
that's it's it's own thing too.So uh, you're working with method man,
Zoe Saldana, Shaye Wigham, Likethat's got to be an amazing experience
with these with these guys. Yes, I can't believe I got all those
people metha man came in to readfor something else and then he was like,
what if, what if? Whatif I do this? This father

(46:28):
Jackson roll I was like, yeah, yes see you once said we got
it and Shae Wiggam, I can't. I it's amazing that he was into
it, like I can't. It'sso cool that he was like he was
set to script and yeah. Iremember like face timing with him and I

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like, uh, you know,at first, You're like, well,
it's this guy always plays intense dudes. I'm literally scared. But he was
so cool. He's so cool.I love Shaye Wigham. He should be
in everything. He's the ultimate pro. I learned so much from him,
like the best. And then sohe saw Dania. I wrote her a

(47:12):
long letter to try to basically askingher for his favor, and I told
her what the movie's about and alwaysI'm a Dominican filmmaker and still to this
day can't believe she said yes.She was like, I'll be in New
York that day. Let's go.I love it man. Yeah, so
any and I got Sue. Itwas amazing. We got super lucky.

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Now I know we're gonna we're gonnatalk about what's coming up next for you
here in a couple of minutes.But before we you know, just to
Yeah, I'm gonna cheat a littlebit. You ever have thoughts on like,
you know, more of the ofthe vampire story, like, you
know, bring these kids back doinganother another film? Because it ends it
ends kind of like, hey,you come to our neighborhood. This is

(47:57):
what happens, you know. Yeah. I love the mean, like the
community comes together. So I waswondered, like what if what if there's
a different threat, you know,different creature, different monster, Like could
we do something more in this year? There's definitely you know the stories uh
from your mouth to Netflix ears?Uh yeah, I would love that.

(48:19):
I I don't have one right now, okay, but yeah, I mean
do zombies versus the Bronx UFOs versusthe Bronx ideas are endless man? So
many things? Yeah? Yeah,yeah, uh no, I love it.
I I you might have inspired something, who knows? Okay, all
right, we'll have to talk aboutthat. Ye yeah. Yeah. And
let's let's talk a little bit aboutap Bio. This is one of those

(48:43):
incredible shows that you're telling your friend, like why aren't you watching this,
you know, and then it getsbig and then and then it you know
it, you know, it findsnew life on Peacock. It's like aby
Bio was a dream come true.Also, like I met Michae O'Brien,
the showrunner and the creator on SNLand really clicked with him. We did

(49:07):
some really fun stuff. It wassome of my favorite videos, stuff like
Sad Mouse and Monster Piles on SNLand we just had a really great relationship.
And yeah, he had sold thispilot and I I was very lucky
to have been asked to direct it, and it was the first pilot I

(49:30):
did, so it was a bigdeal and I had to sort of prove
myself And to this day, Ican't believe they okay some of the wild
visual ideas that we threw out,that it's a wild show man, I
mean, yeah, but they werevery down. They were very into sort
of the the the wild scripts,the interesting look. Yeah, and it

(49:52):
was really fun because like Mike andI collaborated on SNL so much, so
it was just sort of like itwas the job, but it just also
felt like I'm working with my friend. And then I brought over Blake McClure,
who was a cinematographer who had shota lot of my SNL shorts.
So yeah, really it was areally special special project because I've done other

(50:16):
pilots before and they don't all feelthat way, like where you forget the
responsibility and the stress, like itfelt really fun. So yeah, it
was a blast to work on thatshow. And I kept coming back,
and I would keep coming back andwas still round. It was the It
was one of my favorite working experiencesand and the like I said, still

(50:42):
surprised that they let us go withoutinteresting color palette. I mean, all
that time working with Glenn Howerton,is there is there any hope we might
see you direct a little bit ofa Sonny in the future, ever that
conversation ever come up, or becauseseeing what you can do on ap bio,
I would love to see what youcould do on Sonny. You know

(51:04):
you talk about those there's interesting colorpalettes and stuff like. Yeah, as
wild as that show gets, like, I can't imagine, you know,
if you were free to run aroundthat world, what you could do.
Send him that email. Man,let's go all right, I'm on it.
I'm on it. I'm on it. Oz No. I mean,
you know, it was I Wedefinitely talked about that a lot of anyone
that like, you know, gofor it. I definitely threw some some

(51:30):
hints there. But it was amazingto see Glenn work. Like he is
so talented and he is a reala real proper actor, and like he
was giving these like two page monologueslike the night before and he comes down
and he just like kills it,and that is that's amazing to work with

(51:50):
because like you're just like it makesyour job some of you. You're just
literally an audience member too, justwatching this guy rip through a monologue like
it's not and he's he's he's somethingelse. He's really cool, he's really
good. Well talk about something else. Let's talk about what's next for Ozrodriguez.
You know we we've just now we'regetting the the WGA, that's that

(52:13):
strikes resolved or getting resolved. Stillworking on the SAG after situation. But
once these things, once these resolutionshappen. Are there any projects you're planning
next anything you can share with us? Definitely planning some projects. Can't share
everything, but I will share thatneon this show I worked on, I
shot at the pilot. It's comingout October nineteenth. It's a series on

(52:36):
Netflix and it's a comedic series aboutthis group of friends that moves to Miami
to make it in the reggaeton musicscene. It's kind of like Reggaeton Dave,
maybe reggaetn Entourage without the problematic stuff. And this is this is the
one with Tyler. Correct, Yeah, so this is the one with Tyler.
So Tyler got that role because theylooked at his IMDb or but he

(53:00):
got the audition because they looked atthe IMDb and they saw him in that
cool photo with braids, and theywere this guy was a cool look,
and they came in for an audition. He nailed it and then they're like,
actually, why don't you use thatlook? So he looks like that
in the show, all nice andhe actually like, kudos to him.

(53:22):
He It definitely feels like a differentcharacter than than Miguel, Like it's really
it's really fun creating a different personality. So yeah, that's really exciting.
It it's a show about reggaeton andit's a comedy and uh, you know,
going back to what we discussed theshow with Latinos, so we definitely
have some great representation there and hopefullyeverybody likes it. I mean, it's

(53:45):
at the end of the day,it's it's Raton is the soundtrack. But
it's about these three friends and theirrelationships and basically how they started from the
bottom and want to get to thetop of the Okay, October nineteenth on
Netflix. So we're looking at likewhat was just like eight eight eight episode
series ten episode like eight episodes,eight episodes, eight episodes. Thirty minutes

(54:07):
goes by real quick. You caneven watch it twice the same day if
you want, we might Okay,we got to check that one out.
We might have to have you comeback and talk about it then. If
that's you know, it's right aroundthis morn. But Oz, I got
to ask you. Let's let's gethypothetical for a minute. Is there a
writer that you'd love to collaborate withon a future project? Oh it's easy

(54:32):
to say what what star? Whatwhat actor? What actress? But but
uh, but you know, asa writer, you're a writer, Like,
is there a writer you'd like?Man, if this guy would write
me something, this guy would writeme something, I'd love to direct it.
Anyone come to mind? No,Uh, only because like, I
mean, there's obvious amazing screenwriters thatif I had a crack at it,

(54:53):
I would be like, yes,please, I would do Aaron Sorkin thing
or something. But it's uh uh, it's not really about It's like I
just want to I would like tokeep reading or have that script that has
an interesting, amazing story with Latinosin it, Like that's I just want

(55:13):
to see more of that. Sonot necessarily I don't know who that person
is, but whoever that person isthat can deliver another great script with sort
of Latino identity and characters and andand if it's fun, then that's the
person that work with. Okay,let's say, whether we're talking film or
television, is there a franchise you'dlove to be involved with as a writer

(55:37):
or as a writer director or asjust a director, anything anything come to
mind there? You know what?I uh, that's a great question.
I leve me some I do.I love spy movies, so I I
would take any spy movie that youthrow on me. A mission impossible born

(56:00):
uh or yeah one bond, oh, one bond? There you go,
yeah, yeah, yeah, youknow what. I that's uh, that's
a great question for which I amhopefully ill prepared, only because like I
don't even see myself, Like Iguess like I'm I'm truly like excited to

(56:24):
work on stuff that has different kindof heroes. And sometimes I because we
don't see these kind of people inthese bigger projects. My my immediate thought
is like I think we have tocreate these projects. But you know,
I I was really down on StarWars for a little bit, and I

(56:44):
think and Or brought me back up. Oh gosh, yeah, you know,
I think I am of the generationwhere something like Star Wars had a
crazy impact. So like, Iguess if they call me for a show,
I'd be available. Well, Imean, we got season two of
V and Door comming, so Felony'sgot to get on the on the call

(57:07):
with you. I think you knowwe could see a couple. Yeah,
come off alone, come on,Dave, help us out. Ah.
Well, you know one more questionI have for you, whether whether we're
talking comfortability or you know, happiness. Where Where do you where? Where

(57:28):
you? Where are you best at? Well, I don't want to say
best at. Where are you?Where do you? Where do you like
to work? Is it feature filmsor is it television more because you've you've
had you, You've been in bothworlds, So like, where do you
Where do you like? Where doyou like being? I? I think
i'd be lying to you if Ididn't say I would love to keep making

(57:50):
more features, more movies. Thatis so satisfying, so cool and so
exciting and a different kind of challenge. But I also love TV and it's
a place where i've worked. Sorry, I've learned so much. So yeah,
like if I had to pick oneright now, I'd probably say I'd
love to make more movies. ButI also love working on TV because you

(58:15):
work on stuff that there's always somethingto learn, and you get an opportunity
to like work with some big thingsthat you maybe couldn't afford in your smaller
movie. So yeah, ultimately wouldlike to make more films. Ultimately we'd
like to see more films from you, so as I can't thank you enough
for spending some time with us today. Definitely looking forward to October nineteenth,

(58:39):
or we can check out Neon onNetflix and hopefully we're seeing another feature film
relatively soon from you. But thankyou for your time. We have loved
having y'all today. Thank you man. This is really fun, fun quote.
I trust me, I will definitelybe bugging you to get you back

(59:00):
because, uh, you know,I love to talk more with you man.
Like you said at the beginning,you know, if we're talking about
film, I'm in and we aredefinitely in for that. So, uh,
we appreciate you, sir, andwe can't thank you enough. What
was the last great movie you sawor the last movie that the last the
last Well, I'll tell you that'sa thank you. I don't I don't.

(59:21):
I don't usually get the good questions. Uh, but uh, my
time now, your time now,okay, So I will tell you that
just last night I got to gosee you. We're talking Star Wars.
Just recently, Uh, I justgot to go see the Creator. Uh
new film visually stunning, an incrediblestory. Hans Zimmer's score is just brilliant.

(59:44):
Uh you know really, it kindof felt I haven't seen it.
I actually am gonna check the pleasechecking. I'm checking those show times right
now. I'm not being the nono no, if you, if if
you, if I can, ifI can persuade you to go see the
Creator, I would love to hearyour thoughts on because I'm talking. I
see it a a friend of theshow, Dayton Johnson, who works on

(01:00:06):
the docum based seventy seven podcast.We went and see this thing, and
my first comment to him when thecredits are rolling, this is amazing.
It actually felt like a Christopher Nolanfilm. Did you did you get that
vibe? And He's like, Ikind of got that vibe. And you
know, I mean you got yougot guys like John David Washington, Kim
wan Anaby, I mean, You'vegot some incredible performers in this film.

(01:00:27):
But man, absolutely incredible film.I hope you I hope you check it
out because it's and it needs tobe seen on a big screen. It's
one of those films I think I'mgoing today. I just found the one
in an hour, so I thinkI can make it. Oh fantast All
right, Well I want to holdyou back, but real quick, I
gotta ask you last great movie thatyou saw this this year? Go to
my letterbox, well that came outthis year? Or I saw how about

(01:00:53):
this? How about Oz Rodriguez recommendsthis film? What what? What do
our listeners need to go see todayor go rent today or stream today?
What would you what would you havethem watch aside from Wants to Fight if
they haven't seen it, obviously,aside from Miguel Wants to Fight. I
saw Past Lives. Actually I hadn'tseen it. That is a very wonderful

(01:01:15):
movie. Okay, that came outthis year and it is a romance and
it is wonderful. It's a wonderfulmovie and it really yeah, I really
connected to it because it's it's aboutthese these uh, this man and a

(01:01:39):
woman that were childhood friends in inSouth Korea. But then the woman that
the young girl, then leaves andcomes to America, and uh, they
sort of stay in touch and thenthen in you know, years past and
he shows up in New York andthings get complicated. But uh, it

(01:02:04):
was it was really it was reallyreally nice, really nice, beautiful movie.
It's one of those movies where everythingseems very effortless and simple, but
nothing is effortless and simple. Irewatched Sleepy Hollow, which was still amazing,
always amazing, Yes, so fun, and then I got oh,

(01:02:27):
I really enjoyed No One Will SaveYou. That was really fun, okay,
Hulu. Yeah, my co hostBrad Kozo, he was just telling
me the other day, like,hey, we checked this out. It's
actually pretty cool. You might wantto let you might want to check it
out. So yeah, I think, yeah, watch it on a big
screen, watch it loud. Ithink that one's it's a shame they didn't
go to the theaters because that one'sreally really fun. I will tell you

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anything else, okay. And thena real weird movie that I saw.
I sung songs from the second floor. Songs from the second floor. I
have truly never seen anything like this. This is a Norwegian movie and it
is about everything in life like Idon't. It's such a bizarre movie and

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it is directed by this guy calledRoy Anderson. And every scene is one
take. There's not a lot ofcamera movement, and it's big white shots
and everything's made. Everything's a set, and it's very deadpan and sometimes that

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people have like grayish faces. EverythingI'm describing as wild. But by the
end of it, I was likereally moved. So these are some of
the crazy movies I've seen recently.All right, well, there you have
it, listeners. Turn on Huluwatch Miguel Wants to Fight. Then turn
on Netflix watch Vampires Versus the Bronx. And then when you when you got

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those two done. Check out PastLives, check out songs from the second
Floor. Check out no One WillSave You. Because we've been talking with
Oz Rodriguez, and not only ishe giving us great films, he is
giving us great film recommendations. Oz, thank you one more time and uh,
listeners, we'll catch you next time. Thank you. Picture it.

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You are a star. We haveto show them that we're not just loser
wannabes. Now, the three ofus currently live in the two thousand and
nine Toyota Coal. I am impressed. You're right, you produced, you
perform. You know how rare thatis. It'll be the biggest throng star

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in the world. Side soon,one side so on the side one side

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one. Okay, this is ourdestiny. You will not regret this,
daddy, Oh mister yankee. Thatokay, I'm gonna go