Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Season Three

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation
our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,
both new and old, to engage and debate about all

(00:23):
things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome back to a new episode of Phasers Set to Stun,
where we continue to show our love for everything Star
Trek in this ongoing series from a film by podcast
which focuses on every system of the expanding Star Trek
universe by covering television, movies, animation, directors, merchandise, and much
much more. Plotting your course on this voyage through the

(01:02):
wormhole is your Core Trek crew. I'm Wayne Whiten, I'm David.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Byrne, and I'm Scott Hoffman.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
And today we're returning to the edge of the Frontier
to continue our discussion and what we like to call
Starter Treks. A chosen list list for first time viewers.
This spoiler free list focuses on the top ten episodes
from each season for people diving into Star Trek Deep
Space nine for the first time, showing them a great
place to start and what to warp away from. With

(01:32):
Starter Treks, we simplify the list to give new viewers
a taste from each season. After you listen to the episode,
you can find the course we plotted for you on
the convenient list located in the description below. The year
was nineteen ninety four. Star Trek the Next Generation had
finished its seven year run with a hell of a
series finale earlier that year. For the first time during

(01:55):
its run, Deep Space nine was floating in space on
its own, the only Star Trek on our screens, at
least for a couple of months, because that November saw
the release of the film Star Trek Generations, and then
just a little over a month later, the series premiere
of Star Trek Voyager in January nineteen ninety five. It
was a very busy year for Star Trek. Changes were coming,

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and Deep Space nine was evolving right alongside its two
sister shows. Season three brought us a new and dangerous
adversary to our little station, a move towards long form
storytelling and serialization, the first use of CGI for starships,
newly designed combadges for Starfleet. Odo got a belt and

(02:37):
Cisco got a beard, and a new way to get
around with the introduction of the USS Defiant. All Right,
let's start. What do you guys think about the introduction
of these tough little ship for DS nine.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
I think it was needed to help the progress of
the story because I think it was going to get
stale with them just sitting on the deep Space nine.
So they had to move it out. So they needed
a ship, and I think to define is definitely the answer.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Gives them a lot more maneuverability. Although I do love
the Runabouts nine. Those are great little ships on their own,
but yeah, I mean it addresses a lot of the
you know, mobility concerns. It can't just stay on the
station because you have a whole quadrant to explore, and
obviously with the big threat it opens up the door

(03:24):
for a lot of great CGI space bells.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean the Runabouts are great, but they're not
really designed for any space battles or for anything, you know, major,
So it was a necessary addition.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
They had a tough little ship.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
It does make me kind of grit and every time
I heard that in this season, I was like, and
then I have to think about, like where that came
up with another movie that we've talked about.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
But anyway, all right, so let's begin with our list
of the top ten must watch episodes from the third
season of Star Trek Deep Space nine. Scott, why don't
you start us off with the first episode?

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, so we're going to talk about a two parter
right out of the gate. They don't waste it any time.
So The Search is a story by Iris Steven Beer
and Robert Hewitt Wolfe and directed by Kim Friedman. Starfleet
recognizes the potential threat of the Dominion and the Founders
after the events of last season, and they send a

(04:22):
ship made for the task. The USS Defiant arrives at
DS nine, and it's a tough little ship designed for battle.
Originally made to defend against the Board, The Defiant takes
Cisco and the crew into the game of Quadrant on
a covert mission to learn more about the Founders and,
if possible, convince them that the Federation is not a
threat and a potential ally. But a catastrophe sends the

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crew in separate directions as Kira and Odo escape in
a shuttle on unexpected side mission, where Odo seems drawn
to what may be his home world. It's a tense
two parter that sets the stage for a very intense
season three after that recap and after thinking about all
that happens in this episode, there's genuinely part of me

(05:05):
that's like, all right, let's move on to the next episode,
because there's very little that we can say without spoiling
a whole lot. So all that to say, this is
a very important episode. I'd say, a very intense and
amazing opening to the season that absolutely sets the tone
for everything else it's about to happen.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Well, it's very important for Odo obviously, but this, this
two parter is very very important to Odo and who
he is and where he comes from.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
I do want to call out Ken Marshall, who plays
Lieutenant Commander Michael Eddington. You may remember it. You may
remember him as Colon from Kroll.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I do.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Oh my god, yep, back, it's a crawl back.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
It is a while for me to realize that too,
when he looks so different.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
He does.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, and that's definitely a character to watch.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
It is it will absolutely. We had the new combadges,
which is kind of interesting, and then our first appearance
of romulents under Your Life nine.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, that was the romulin that they added to the Defiant,
played by Martha Hacketts, which we see definitely more of
her in Star Trek Voyager. But I thought she was
an interesting character. It's a pity that they didn't add
her to the secondary cast. But like they did with Eddington,
I thought it having a romulin stuck in the middle
of them actually would have been rather interesting to the

(06:31):
story to you know, to see the dynamics between the two.
But yeah, she's she's gone by the end of the
second second episode.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, I think they got rid of her character too fast.
I agree with you, Wayne, I think that could have
caused a lot of friction to add to the what's
going on around Deep Space nine and between the characters themselves.
I really wish they would have kept her.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah. Now, I mean we can hear here Wright Scott.
We can't really tell too much about this episode, so
just everybody go go watch it. But let let me
let me ask you guys. This for a two parter,
it starts off really good. But what did you think,
without giving any spoilers away, what did you think of
the ending, either back when you first saw it or
when you rewatched it. Now. Hm, I'm gonna be honest,

(07:16):
I remember when we when this first aired and I
wasn't it had such a great idea, and of course
after the season finale last season, I was expecting big things.
I thought the the ending kind of left me confused.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Okay, that's interesting, and yeah, it's very hard to talk
about this without anything. I thought. Overall, it helped to
raise the amount of questions and give the right amount
of answers at the right time.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, it left a lot of questions opened. I think
that's what confused me a lot. Now, you know, looking
back now, I understand what they were doing, and you know,
when you see the series as a whole, but when
you're coming into it for the first time watching it,
it's like, you know, what, what? What did I just watch?
What just happened?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, there's a a spoilery question that comes to mind
at the end in terms of when there's a reunion
between certain characters, the how much you can trust that
reunion that happens, and that that definitely comes up later.

(08:34):
So it's it's an interesting rewatch moment, I would say,
And you get to like, what season five, maybe just
kind of season six, maybe dip back into this and
see if you can see when certain things happened or
when certain.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's a good suggestion.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, yeah, just speak careful what you said. You'll get
phased on the show.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm being very careful. I was
not expecting that our producer phasing me.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
I'm very I will point out another standout performance salom Gens. Yeah,
has been on Next Generation before, wearing very similar prosthetic makeup.
I'll say, and that's a character to watch throughout the

(09:23):
rest of the series. I think I can say that
without spoiling very much. But it's a I think it's
a standout performance. I mean it's absolutely I mean it's
it's intriguing, but it's also chilling, the consistency of her
performance throughout. So just heads up, that's one to.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Watch, all right. Onto episode two, and this one is mine.
It is Second Skin, written by Robert Hewitt Wolf and
directed by Les Landaum. Major Kira Nurice is shocked to
awaken on Dark Cardassia, where she is told she's actually
a card Assi and name Eleana Gemore, a deep cover

(10:03):
operative who only believes she was but Jordan. As she
struggles to cling to her identity, the Cardassians insist her
entire life as Kiara was a fabricated cover story. Kiera
begins to doubt herself when she finds apparent evidence supporting
their claim, including the affection of a man claiming to
be her father. All right, now, this is an interesting episode.

(10:27):
I'm glad you guys chose because I didn't put this
on my list, But after rewatching it, I realized this
really is such a strong episode for Major Kiera. She
has one about one really strong one per season, and
this is the season three's. It was originally wasn't going
to be Kira. It was actually going to be Chief
O'Brien that was in the part, which I'm glad they

(10:48):
didn't go with that way. The reason they didn't use
Chief O'Brien is because if he was actually no one
would believe it because if he was a Cardassian, well
he's got a kid. I mean, you know, this was
a lot of complications that would require a lot of explanations,
something they really didn't want to get into. But from
what I understand, Nana Visitor hated this episode. She hated

(11:12):
it because remember last season I talked about Helen Utdi
being very claustrophobic and Meg hera our Nana visitor is too,
and having to wear all that makeup sent her into
panic attacks, which I mean, that's just horrible. So I
can understand why she did not like filming this episode.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
And it's interesting that she says that because that episode
coming up, you would think she'd be claustrophobic in that
episode too, that we're going to talk about soon.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I know which one you're talking about, And yes she was,
Yes she was.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
That one was even worth in my opinion, I've got
to say, you know, without giving away anything, I thought
the ending to this episode was absolutely beautiful. Yeah, between
between two characters. Yes, it really was. I mean it
really pulled the heart strings at the end of this episode,
and it just it was. It was just beautifully done.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
It reminds me a lot of I'm going to blank
out on the name of the episode and even the
season that it was in. We wily talked about too
so far, where she is trying to convince the Bajoran
to leave a planet that's like everybody's evacuating the planet.
She has to help the Pajoran with building the fireflace.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
You know that what I'm talking about during the first season.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, that reminds me a lot of this one has
a very interesting look into the Obsidian order and the
manipulative abilities of them and the you know, Cardassians in general.
I would say, not to make a kind of a generalization,
but I mean like they they do it like no
one else.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
But it gives a lot more characterization to him though.
I mean, it gives a lot more to the Cardassians.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, which is great, and I'm glad that they've given
them this kind of range. That it's now that they're
two dimensional villains or anything else like that, but they
really have this kind of you know, emotional depth to them.
It really helps with Grek's character as well.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
I think this is this whole season. You get that
with the Kardassians. Yeah. Yeah, And we're going to talk
about few of those episodes here where you are really
starting to see them more in depth than we've ever
seen them. I mean, what we saw of them in
the next generation, I mean, they were just a villain.
They you know, you didn't really care about, and we're
understanding them and you get that too here at the
beginning of D Space nine. But as the show's going along,

(13:28):
we're digging deeper into that and it makes them a
whole lot more interesting, especially Gerk.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Absolutely, Yeah, Garrek gets a lot this season. He really
really grows. Yeah, that's another new thing we got this
episode two is we got a new musical composer for
the series. This Yeah, David Bell. You know he's he'd
been around for a while. He composed for Murder she
wrote and The Heat of the Night. He also did

(13:56):
a film called Final Justice, which I really remember from
Mystery Science Theater three thousand. He's from He's from Middletown, Ohio.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
I did not interest.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
He's a local boy. Yeah, well we.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Gotta call him out for sure, since in Ohio bo
boy for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
All right, David, you get episode three.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
That is defiant interesting title written by Ronald D. Moore
and Robert Hewitt, Wolf, directed by Cliff Bole. Kira is
on the verge of snapping from all the pressure she
has encountered. She even snaps Zambashier, who immediately orders her
to take some time off. Kira is taken to Cork's
Bar to relax, where she runs into none another than

(14:37):
Commander Riker, who has leave of his own. It seems
he is on his way to the planet Riza for
some pleasure. Kiera and Riker hit off hit it off,
and she offers to give him a tour around the station,
but he has quite the interest in one thing. The Defiant.
Riker eventually takes control of this ship and warps away,
causing tensions to rise between the Cardashians and the Federation,
bringing them to possible war. Going and Goldcott must work

(15:01):
together to capture Riker and the Defiant, but in doing so,
even more secrets are revealed. So we were just talking
about more in depth with the Cardassians, and here is
one of that. You know, Cisco is taken to their
planet to help them capture the Defiant, and they have

(15:22):
to trust each other here, and even gald to Cott
is kind of thrown off by I forget the character's name,
Is it correct, Cornas? Is that our name? Karnass Yes? Yeah,
who who basically you know, was overseeing Dacott a little
bit here because he is the military commander and he

(15:43):
knows everything that's going on in the military. But then
he's caught by surprise of you know, I'm not going
to say it because we don't want to give it away,
but some of the secrets that are going on that
the Kardassians are holding back from him, so it's kind
of like a wait a minute here, Cisco is supposed
to be the one who is you know, you know,
getting surprised by the Cardassians, but gall to Coat kind
of gets caught with his pants down, right for sure.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, he's definitely kind of put in his place. And yeah,
it digs a lot deeper into how the secrecy is
so intertwined and so essential to Cardessian life, let alone
their military structure.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah, yep, and it's interesting. Rachel Garrett plays her, and
she was in Yesterday's enterprise I believe as Rachel Garrett, right,
Rachel Garrett. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she played Rachel Garrett and
Yesterday's enterprise, which is kind of neat that they bring
her back. I love that Star Trek does that they
bring back so many actors to play different characters. Okay,

(16:45):
I mean you can get away with it when they
have so much makeup on them, you really can't tell
they are.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
According to the Star Yates, this is the last episode
that plays that happens before the events of Star Trek Generations.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
I was wondering about that. There's a lot of this
where I'm kind of like, where does this fit in
all of the Yeah, so that's interesting context.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
I will say there's there's one scene between Ducott and
Cisco that I absolutely love in this episode, and this
isn't giving away anything. It's when Dacott is explaining to
Cisco about his explanation of his son's birthday and what
the boy will remember, you know, he will look back
with hatred because his father was pulled away during the

(17:25):
time of his birthday. I thought that was a really
cool It gave more depth to Ducott. It really did
to me, and you know because I mean he's just
not this stoic leader who is a villain with the Cardassians.
He actually has a kid, He's got a family, and
to hear that explain to Cisco just really puts that into,

(17:45):
you know, a different level of this character.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, especially when you've got one father talking to another. Yeah.
So it's not only from different planets, different societies, but
just a different parenting style. And it's not presented in
such a way that this is the wrong way to
do it. It's just kind of differing styles and it's
an interestingly disarming way to position Goldacott because in a

(18:10):
lot of this. When you look at his entire arc,
He's absolutely a villain. He started out that way, but
you get these looks into him that give him a
bit more relatable depth where you understand that, like you know,
and that's where you get some great villain development, in

(18:30):
my opinion, is the ones that you're afraid of because
they you can you can see the logic behind what
they're doing. You don't agree with it necessarily, but you
see what's drive them.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
The best line of the episode, you shouldn't go fishing today,
you won't catch anything. Was weird.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, good line. But what are you gonna do? All right?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be
back right after these messages, and we're continuing on with
our starter treks for Star Trek Deep Space nine. Our
fourth pick is the second of the season's two parters,
and that is Past Tense. Captain Cisco, doctor Bashir, and

(19:13):
Jodziev Dax are accidentally transported to the twenty first century
Earth after a transporter malfunction. Cisco and Bisher find themselves
in San Francisco just before the Infamous Bell Riots, a
pivotal event in which oppressed citizens from the sanctuary districts
rise up against social inequality, but things take a dangerous

(19:34):
turn when history is altered, forcing Cisco to take drastic
measures to put things right. Meanwhile, Dax works to contact Starfleet,
while the crew on DS nine race to locate and
retrieve their missing officers before the timeline is completely altered.
Now this another two parter, so early in the series.

(19:56):
This is an interesting one and I think probably one
of the better of the two parters for the entire series.
I really like this. I like this when it first aired.
I like this now. It's it's really well done. And
I know it's uh, it can be a little preachy,
but I think it works a little a little bit,
a little bit, a little bit a lot, actually, but

(20:18):
I think it's it's written. It's so well written that
you don't even you don't even notice that, and at
least I didn't that much. It's just a good episode,
and uh, you know, I like it. It's not too
much you can give about. It's about the ending of it.
I don't want to give anything away.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Right Well, the biggest win here is when I celebrated
Dick Miller.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yes, yes, yes, I was gonna say somebody's got to say.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Dick Miller is amazing and everything he does, and we
always want to call him out and everything he does
because he is fantastic. We gotta call it. Clint Howard. Yeah,
he's not a not a very big role in this one,
but he he is in it. Clint is in a
lot of stuff and as we know, he's got he's
been an original star Trek obviously when he was really little. Yep, Scott,

(21:09):
this really reminded me, especially part two, really reminded me
of Dog Day Afternoon.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yes, yes, yes, read in my mind.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah, this is exactly what it felt like. When I
was watching this, I was like, this is Dog Day Afternoon,
and it really it's what it felt like.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, that's true. That's a good goal, and fans of
that you'll be I think pleasantly surprised by this one.
I think it's got a lot of great development. It's
not as two dimensional as it could be. It's a
very interesting look at what they thought twenty twenty four
would be like, So just watch it with that lens.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
The future right exactly.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
But also just interesting, like their their take on some
issues of the day, Like it gets a lot into
struggles of the homeless and just looking at that through
it kind of a nineties lens versus today's lens. It
does get a bit preachy, but but it's it's an

(22:14):
interesting use of a two parter, right, It's not advancing
the story all that much. It's just taking a beat
to kind of look at SEMy present day and give
a different perspective.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
And it's convincing character development too. Yes, No, I mean,
especially with Bashir. I mean you're you're getting a lot
of Hilm in this, and it's it's it's helping them
to develop each other, between Basher and Cisco for one thing.
So I like that. It doesn't you're right, it doesn't
push the story along for D Space nine, but it
does push the characters, and I think that's why I

(22:43):
like it. But you know, it's one of those things
where you when you're watching, you're kind of rolling your
eyes with like, oh, start trek seing another episode where
they're going back in time to to our you know,
to our time. But it's not really that. It's got
a really good story, it's got a good heart.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Pine.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah, it is preachy, but some good things that are
going on in this a lot of good performances and
those kind of things. And I also want to call
out Deborah Van and Vaukenberg, who plays a detective president
in this many of you want to know her. Murphy
and the Warriors Scott another movie we covered yep, and
of course Jackie Rush from Too Close for Comfort, because
I want to hear monrou.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Boughts on the major Kira Chief O'Brien adventure that we
probably can't say too much about, but there's a little
bit of kind of comic relief I think with that.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Didn't they add that because they were they needed to
add more time to it, so they added those scenes. Yeah,
that's why they would get that that montage.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, those are films much late in the filming session.
But I do want to bring something else that's not
a spoiler. I want to point something out that I
think is rather cool. When they go back to nineteen thirty,
you'll notice the camera the director is really adamant on
showing this boxing poster that's that's hanging up. Just so
you know, that boxing poster is the same poster that

(24:02):
we see hanging on the wall in the episode Sitting
on the edge of Forever. It was put there on purpose,
because that means that Kira and O'Brien are at the
exact same time as Kirk spocka, McCoy aar and everything.
They're both on Earth at the same time.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
And neither neither one of them goes to see the match.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
No, I mean, you're right, but you know that's not
the only thing too. If you really want to talk timelines,
you know this, let's see twenty twenty four. This Picard
and his bunch traveled back to twenty twenty four during
in the second season of Star Trek Card, which means
that and they even visited one of these sanctuary districts,

(24:48):
which means they were on the same time as as
Cisco and Basher just there in San Francisco and Picard
and them, we're in Los Angeles. So everybody visits twenty
twenty four? What is up with that year?

Speaker 4 (25:00):
All this tiny white stuff come on now?

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, it's kind of calling the mind. Like, I wonder
if anybody ever do like a you know, whether it's
comics or novelization or whatever, but get into this time
bureau that's trying to keep everybody from screwing up the
timelines like this.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
That's right, that's mentioned for the first time. Series, that's
mentioned for the first time here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, there's a bunch you could probably do with those
stories as callbacks to this skut of stuff or whatever.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
So there's there's a department to handle that stuff. You know.
I don't know why they've not gone that route, to
be honest with you, because that could really open up
some really cool stories.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Exactly. Yeah. Well, I mean especially if you say, like, well,
you know, because O'Brien takes a marker back with him
and rates graffiti on the car that says invest in
whatever company apple. Yeah, but like if you know, kind
of the reason that that department exists has to be
because something got screwed up at some point right.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Current it Yeah, they're talking about that department. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
All right, David, you will bring us our fifth pick.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Heart of Stone Written by Robert Hewitt Wolf very busy guy,
by the way. In this season directed by Alexander Singer,
Kira and Odo are returning to Deep Space nine from
reviewing security procedures and a planet close to the Cardassian border.
On their return, they receive a distressed call from a
ship that was attacked by the Machi. They follow the
ship to a moon, where Kira becomes stock and begins

(26:30):
to be enveloped by a crystal. Odo rushes to figure
out how to save her. While on the station, Nog
had officially reached adulthood and must figure out soon what
he is to become and makes a shocking decision. Now,
we kind of talked a little bit earlier about the
claustrophobia stuff, because she has to go through some serious
stuff here for sure, encased in that crystal, I can

(26:54):
imagine what was going through her mind as she was
doing that, but I do We kind of briefly talked
about this off Mike the other day. This is one
of my favorite scenes in this this episode, and that's
between Cisco and Nog. The scene when what Nog wants
to do and Cisco's basically doesn't believe him and doesn't

(27:18):
trust him because he's not he's a ferringy, you know,
they just you know, they're all after the money, and
he doesn't believe what he wants to do, so Cisco
puts him to the test. To this episode and that
scene when Nog finally comes to him and asks him
and begs him to, you know, to do what he
wants to do, and I'm beating around the bus because
I don't want to ruin it for the listeners and

(27:38):
he can. Cisco basically confronts Nog here and you know,
tries to pull out those emotions, tries to pull out
the truth from Nog really what he's up to, and
Cisco comes to find out Nog isn't up to something.
It's truly what he wants and the reason why he
wants to do it is is very heartwarming and heartbreaking

(28:01):
at the same time because you know what his dad
Ram is going through with Quirk. You know, we all
know what that is like. And to see also what
Rahm does here to stand up against Quark for Nog
is incredible and it really this season really makes me
love Rom more than I've ever loved him his character.

(28:24):
But the scene between Cisco Nog was just absolutely outstanding
and is my favorite scene of this whole season.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, I love to see so just kind of looking
through some trivia that this is the actor who plays Nog,
Aaron Eisenberg rest in piece that this is one of
his all time favorite pieces that he's done, not only
from Das line but his entire acting career. And it
is clear to see why I say it pretty much

(28:54):
every season when we get home with these little recaps,
I know that there are people that find the Farrengi
absolutely obnoxious and they lean into that. They see them
as you know, two dimensional and greedy. There's so much
more to see here, not that that's not central to
their society, but you get so much more this one.
I mean, in my opinion, this is a cornerstone of

(29:18):
the series. Yep, it's absolutely essential watching. I think if
you see nothing but the first two episodes and this one,
you will understand why you have to watch the rest
of this series because it's just, oh, there's so many
heartbreaking moments. Even the we get a little bit of
information about Odo's name and his his discussion of that

(29:44):
rips my heart out absolutely, And there are so many
of those moments, especially you know at the at the
end the resolution of this Nog Cisco storyline, what Nog
says about his father, it's just as a fire myself
is just like, oh my god, clutching my chest. Just

(30:04):
the acting in this cover to cover the the effect
the writing, yeah, is supreme. And when I knew that
we were going to talk about this series. This is
always what comes to mind, ye, And I was just like,
I cannot wait to talk about this episode that we
can't say a lot about because.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
It's right boilery.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Now, yeah, that's the irony of this is this is
such a great episode. You got to go watch this one.
You know, it's it's not it's it's not a big episode.
I mean, there's no big battles or anything, because it's
it's a bottle episode. You know. They they spent so
much money doing in Past tense that they had to
save some money. But the performances are just incredible, and

(30:41):
that's what makes this episode so great. That's what what
pulls the episode in, you know, all all of them.
Nana Visitor of course, another great performance. Reneopistion was Odo.
He's he's so good in this episode, so so so dignified,
you know. And then of course I agree with both
with I think Nog's story, which is actually the b story,

(31:03):
is actually the best part of this episode of great.
You know, you know it could have been played for laughs,
you know with the frrangi and you expect that when
you get a Farringi, but this this isn't. This is
a major turning point for this character, and it's an
incredible performance. Aaron Eisenberg's just just so good, total different outlook.

(31:24):
You you come out of this episode looking at the
Farrangi differently, they're they're they're so good.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
And when you get to the end of this episode
and you realize what Nog was after, you can go
back in the beginning when he first you know, comes
onto the ops and he wants to see Cisco, and
Cisco finally says, you know, let you know let him
in the look of glee on his face when he's
getting to get to go see Cisco. That that right

(31:51):
there just shows you what incredible performance here.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
H Well, it bears mentioning how Jake fits into this set,
right You've got two best friends and this you know,
Nog never getting the approval of his friend's father and
feeling that he always has to chase that and feeling
like he's not getting a lot of respect. So his

(32:17):
passion for his diligence in pursuing that is amazing. But
then the performance between Jake and Nog is also very
very revealing in a lot of growth for kids at
that age to come to that point in their lives.
So yeah, don't miss this one at all.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
All right, Scott, the sixth one is yours.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
So this one is Through the Looking Glass, written by
Ira Stephen Beer and Robert Hewitt Wolfe. I got through
it see, directed by uh Winrich Colby. So Cisco is
kidnapped and taken into the Mirror universe, where his counter
part was recently killed in a shuttle explosion. He's needed
by the rebellion against the Klingon Cardassian Alliance because his

(32:59):
counter part, because the counterpart of his wife, Jennifer, has
a pivotal role. If Cisco can convince her to help
the rebellion, he'll be sent back to his own universe.
If not, he'll die along with the rest of the
rebellion and eliminate any resistance to the Alliance. It's an
exciting follow up to last season and an emotional story
I would say for Cisco. I hope I'm not spoiling

(33:21):
too much with that overview, but it's hard not to like.
It's after the first ten minutes, a lot of that happens,
but it's it's interesting that they chose to have an
episode that features his wife because it feels like in
the beginning of the series they tried to say, three
years later, we're helping you get through that, right to

(33:44):
help heal from that. This one just feels it just
like rips that scar wide back open.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I think that's why they did that. Think you had
a right spot on.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
And it's interesting that they had a little bit of
comedy at the beginning of this episode with the goal
fighting that they were talking to court like, why why
are they all individually numbered? Well, we were recounting them.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
A question for you, Wayne, and you might be talking
about this. Where does this fit into the Voyager timeline?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Okay, this takes place well, I mean, it doesn't take
place at all in the Mirror universe, but the rest
of it is pretty much right after Voyager was sent
to the to the Delta Quadrants. In effects the two episodes, Okay,
when we were talking about Past Tense, Past Tense is
the last story that takes place before Voyager was sent

(34:43):
to the to the Delta Quadrant. So this one is
actually after gotcha.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Okay, so Voyager was running at this point.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Right there They're lost. Okay, yeah, so it was running yeah,
by I think three weeks now. Yeah, okay, which is
a surprise. We saw Tim Russ in it, you know, yeah, yeah,
even though it's such a small part.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
He's yeah, but he's you know, given a prominent, recognizable part.
So it was just an interesting connection here.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
He wasn't calming the desert anymore.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, he will be soon again from what.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
You know, I like this episode that I always like
the Mere Universe episodes. It actually when this first aired,
it really surprised me that they went back to this.
I was expecting the last one to be a one
and done thing, but uh, it just it gives the
characters a chance to do something different, you know, we
see it. We see Avery Brooks and Nana Visitor playing
you know, having fun with their parts and playing their

(35:45):
their characters different or a freer, a darker version of it.
I kind of like that. I think it's it's it's
kind of neat, you know. You know, we see a
lot back then. I mean, this was the first time
deep Space and I was the first time we really
revisited the Mere Universe. You know, now after Discovery and
all that, I probably go not again. You know, it
was still fresh back then, and that's why I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Absolutely, there's there's probably a pause moment for for new
viewers or people who are coming back to it. I
imagine if we were in a room watching this together,
the meeting between Cisco and Dax in the Mirror universe
and the moment that they share, I feel like that

(36:29):
would be a hold up. Let's talk about that for
a bit. Yeah, we're not gonna talk about it here.
But it did make me think, like, did I just
see okay? Really? Yeah, okay, don't I don't know about that,
but all.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Right, sure, Oh hey, look we got another two parts
are coming up. Shocker Daven, why don't you tell us
about that one?

Speaker 4 (36:50):
And the first time it start treking? There are two
different titles. They're not part one part two, right, it's
very confused that if you're not careful, I'm gonna break
these up at the two to just bear with me.
So and Probably is the first episode, written by Renee
Echeveria and Robert Liederman and directed by Avery Brooks. Grek's
shop has an impromptu fire sale when it explodes, It

(37:12):
is fortunate for Gerrit that he survives, and of course,
Odo quickly expects foul play. And begins an investigation. Garrick
refuses to cooperate, which infuriates Odo. Evidence is uncovered which
leads Odo to a Flaxen who recently arrived onto the station.
Odo interrogates him, but as he digs deeper, the alien
ship explode, which now forces the investigation into another direction,

(37:33):
one that Odo realizes with some help that makes him
see that he has only uncovered a small piece of
a very much larger huzzle to the second episode, The
Die Is Cast, written by Ronald Y Moore and Robert
Hewitt Wolfe, directed by David Livingstone, and the second part
to Improbable Calls. Deep Space nine finds itself being approached
by Romulin and Cardassian Fleet. Cisco readies for a fight,

(37:56):
but to his surprise, they passed the station and goes
through the wormhole on the way to the game Maquadrant.
Cisco goes after Start, goes against Starfleet to orders and
quickly follows after them. Meanwhile, on one of the ships
within the fleet, Odo is being held against his wishes,
unable to change form and begins to be interrogated by
someone he thought he knew. This and more will all
come to a very explosive conclusion that will continue to

(38:18):
ripple across the star systems, that will further the danger
surrounding Deep Space nine. So we talked about Garrick before
and that how his character really gets a lot of
exposure in this season, and this two parter is one
of those for sure. Yeah, we get to really see

(38:38):
Garrick who Grek really was before we got to know him,
who you know, the rumors, the stories we heard about Gerrick.
We get to see him here be that person. And
you know, I don't want to give way too much.
You guys know what I'm talking about, but you get
to see that side of him that you know, we
haven't really got to see before. And this two parter

(38:59):
is it is really big, and you know, the battle
that happens at the end towards the end of the
second episode is huge. You know, we don't get to
see a lot of dog fighting in Star Trek. You
get to see these big ships just dooking it out
back and forth, you know, torpedoes, photo torpedoes and fass
this you actually get to see a lot of you know,
some dog fighting going on and some ships getting blown

(39:19):
up and move, you know, weaving in and out. I
thought that was fantastic, something you don't see in Star
Trek ye.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
And I think it's one of the things that I
love most about DS nine, even though I know there's
different opinions about like how much fighting there should be
on on the series, but I think it's just so
well choreographed and so well done, and it feels just
so compelling to watch. I think it raises the stakes,
it makes things seem more dangerous, and I just think

(39:51):
it's another aspect of this that just I think it's
a more interesting element for new reviewers, right who might
be looking for something else on the Star Trek show.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Well, you're you're starting to see the stakes get hired.
You know, as the season's gold go along and as
we know what's coming, you know, the stakes are getting
higher for our crew and for what's going on in
this area. So you know, this is just the tip
of the iceberg of what's to come.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, Now I got a question because I didn't I
didn't do the research on this. Was this Avery Brooks
first time he directed? I don't remember seeing his name.
It is his first one. Okay, I know he'll go
on to direct some more. But he did a great job.
Oh yeah, he had a really good job. I guess
he's going to be the Jonathan Frakes of The Deep
Space nine become a director. Nothing wrong with that, iron

(40:39):
This this episode was phenomenal when it first aired. It
blew me away and it had that that motion picture
feel to it. And I think a lot of that
comes from Dennis McCarthy's score though, And I want to
point that out because you can definitely tell that this
is post generations because he's it has that sound. Yep,
it definitely has the sound that he brought to that

(40:59):
that film. It's it's a wonderful score and it's been
released to It's on the volume one from Wala Land
if you ever want to want to hear it or
get it. But great episode, good return to We got
Paul Dooley again returning from last season. Yep, yep, my
guy from alf. But just this season is full of

(41:19):
a lot of really good, good episodes and this is
one of the top.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Ones for me. It's there. You're really getting to see
these characters getting developed big time this season. And you
know what this this was only supposed to be one part, right,
It was originally just one episode, but the ending of
the first episode was kind of weak, so they decided
to expand this and turn it into a two parter
because they went ahead and filmed another episode after that.

(41:45):
That's why the first one and then they had to
go back and shoot the second episode.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, that's why it doesn't have a part one part two.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
On it that, yep, which is kind of interesting. All
I got to say is poor Bishar's pants.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Oh man, the like oh crimea river? Right, this is
hard to talk about. Again. I think the ending of
the first episode and Probable Cause is very intriguing, and
I think the dia is cast as a follow up
to that ending is very unexpected because when I was

(42:19):
watching this episode, I was like, oh, yeah, so this
character is going to go in this direction and we're
going to see this kind of trope and whatever. It
surprises you in a lot of ways, and the Garrick's
character goes in directions that you don't necessarily expect, which
makes him a little hard to trust. At the same time,

(42:40):
you can see where he's conflicted, so it's not you're
not quite ready to dismiss him. It's it's just another
level of understanding. And I think it's it's a it's
a bold move, but I'm glad that they did it.
We're also focusing a lot on Odo this season, and
my god, you feel for Odo oh so much in

(43:01):
this episode. His the makeup in this with out spoiling
things is so.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Painful to whoa it is.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yeah, it is surprisingly painful. And just to think about
what you had mentioned, Dave in your overview, what happens
to him in this episode, it's I think essential viewing
to show because you know, if you're interested in his species,
it's essential to understanding it.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Agreed, without question.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
All right, let's pause once again for station identification. Welcome
back to Deep Space nine starter treks. We've given you
the first seven of our picks, and I have number eight,
which is Family Business, written by Ears Stephen Bear and
Robert Hewitt Wolf and directed by Renee abu jan Wa.

(43:54):
Pork is summoned back to Ferengar after the Ringy Commerce
Authority charges his mother, Hiska, with the crime of earning
prophet something forbidden to Ferringi females. Accompanied by his brother Ram,
Pork tries to force It'ska to confess and return her profits,
only to discover she's a shrewd and successful business woman

(44:15):
who refuses to submit to sexist laws. Their heated family
conflict exposes a strained relationship between mother and sons, as
well as revealed the different values Quirk and rom hold.
I thought to have this episode on on the list too,
because I like these. I like the FARRINGI episodes, and
I think this one's a damn good one and an

(44:36):
important one, mainly because we got we got some first
appearances here that are important to the series. Of course,
we got Ishka played by the wonderful Andrea Martin from SCTV.
I love her moogie.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
I could see that it was her through the makeup
and it was absolute delight in every we'll see.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah, she's so wonderful. And we've got uh, we got
the appearance of Liquidator Brunt, played by the Jeffrey Colmes,
who's played pretty much every alien in every series there is.
And then finally we've got who will become a very
important character to keep your eyes on. That's Cassidy Yates
played by Penny Johnson. You know, like I said, I

(45:22):
don't want to reveal too much about her, Just keep
your eyes, keep your eyes on her. She'll become very important.
But this, this is this is a fun episode. It
really really expands uh, the culture, the depth of the
Faringhi while you know, introducing one of the most in
my opinion, the most memorable characters of the of the
series in Ishka and armand Sherman. He is fantastic in

(45:46):
this episode. You know, he's so conflicted. You know, he's
he's a businessman, and he he follows the Farringi rules
of acquisition and their their laws so strict. But you know,
this is his mother, this is Moogie, and and he's
not really sure what he wants, What's what he's going
to do.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
You know, this is such a good episode, but man
is it weird and.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Very uncomfortable in a couple of spots. Yeah, and you
know you got to give it to Andrea Martin for saying, like,
all right, this is what I have to do.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Oh oh yeah, there the hours in the makeup chair.
She's a trooper.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
There's also another important thing to talk about, but I'm
not going to mention it unless you give me a
strip of latinum. If you're a fan of Lower Decks
and you've seen the Ferrangi episodes where you see the
Frangi homeworld. I think this is very much integral to
that DNA, Like, yes, is it spoiling anything? If I

(46:48):
talk about the office that he goes into. No, there's
there's like cash machines all over the place, and that
is like, well, if you want that chair, it's two
strips of latinum. If you want to stand, it's one
strip of latinum or something like that. Like every single
thing in that society costs money. So yeah, I mean, like,

(47:12):
how do you walk around without sounding like you have
like three sets of spurs on, like with all the
latinum that has the jingle jangle in your pockets.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
It kind of reminds you going to a sci fi convention,
you know exactly, Yeah, except it's it's got to be
the most miserable vacation spot ever. It is always raining there,
always raining, always raining, you know.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
I do I do want to call out Penny Johnson
to Penny Johnson Gerald because remember she played Claire Finn
in The Orble.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
I do remember love that series.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Yep, orb is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
So yes, all right, Scott, give us the honor of
telling us about number nine.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Oh it Explorers. This one took me by surprise story
by Hillary J. Bader and directed by Cliff Bowl. This
is where the Beard first appeared. So happy to see
that Cisco not only grows a goat tea, he builds
plans to recreate history. This fun bottled episode finds him

(48:13):
rebuilding a Bajoran's solar sail ship that navigated the stars
while humans were still sailing the seas. His plan seeks
to him to prove that ancient Bajorans were able to
travel from Baijor to Cardassia with the ship without warp drive,
which he pilots with his son Jake. This trip brings
them closer together and vindicates a story often dismissed as
impossible by Cardassians. Back on the station, we get an

(48:36):
introduction to an important dab, a girl named Belita, and
we also see doctor Sheer doctor Bashir face some embarrassing
history as a former competitor visits the station. When I
first saw the description of this episode, I didn't have
very high expectations. I was like, well, I don't know,
it doesn't seem like it's gonna drive that much, but wow,

(48:56):
is it important to Jake? And and I would say
some some growth that we see from.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Ducat Character Development shoot, character development, and I love me
some DA, so I'm excited to see her.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
There's another character introduced that you've got to keep your
eye on or she's going to come very important to
the series. A lot lots of introductions this season.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Matter of fact, I'm looking I'm looking at Chief Masters
and photograph right now, right in front.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
What you're looking up at. I was like, yeah, roof leaking. Yeah, no,
I mean, like, you know, there's I feel like the
design of the Solar Sales ship was very cool. It
was reminiscent of draw and I think and the the
care that I think they took into designing this ship

(49:46):
to make it very manual. You know, there's no keypads,
there's no electronics really on this thing, lots of cranks
and they have to fly with the air that they.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Need to breathe.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Like, yeah, it's just very very interesting episode, very important
for Jake and Cisco. I'd say semi important from Bashir,
like the sad episode seems like it's it's good, probably
not as important, but just fantastic performances all around.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Come on, O'Brien, be here. Drunk theme that was.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Yeah, Yeah, that's true, that's a good run singing yeah
when when o Brian LiTi goes.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
I really do not hate you anymore? Right, yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
And the visual effects are really impressive in this episode.
That light shit is completely done in CGI, which is
a first for the series. You know, the company that
does the visual effects for d Space nine, which is
an image g they really weren't set up for CGI
of that extent, so they had ended up having to
go back to Industrial Light and Magic, and John Nolan

(50:55):
himself created the light ship and the computer model for it.
It's obvious, it's very, very impressive, and it's a great episode.
I'm glad you guys chose this one. So I love this.
I remember when it first aired, I was impressed with him. Yeah,
all right, David is going to close out the season
with episode ten.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
And that, of course is the season finale. The Adversary
written by Robert Hewitt, Wolf directed by Alexander Singer, and
the season finale, Cisco finally receives a well deserved promotion,
but just as the celebration settles down, he O'Brien and
others take the Defiant to Thin Kathy's space, when suddenly
the ship starts to have problems. O'Brien hears strange sounds

(51:35):
around the ship, and mishaps begin to occur, making Cisco
believe someone on board is causing sabotage. Someone or something
on the ship is not who they appear to be,
forcing Cisco to gather the staff and find out who
exactly it is. To their surprise, it is quickly discovered
and it isn't long until their plan is revealed, which
could potentially cause a war between the Federation and this

(51:55):
in Kathy, in the fashion of John Carpenter's The Thing,
the Crew, you try to find out who exactly is
who and capture the impostor before it is too late. Yeah,
I mean, this is the Thing all over again, and
it's done really well, you know, even down to the
testing of the blood and stuff like that. This was

(52:16):
a really unique episode, to be honest with you, because
you're you're adding more dimension to some of the stuff
that we've already experienced in this season. And I don't
want to give away too much, you know, and but
you this is not what you would think to be
one of those gigantic battle epic conclusions to a season. Okay,

(52:37):
but it does have a good story to it. That
has a lot of what is on the horizon for
Deep Space nine in this episode, and I think it
was an incredible season finale to be honest with him.
You know, you're getting more ODO stuff, you know, because
we've had a ton of that throughout this season. You know,
you get a lot of the crew here on the Defiant.

(52:58):
You get to see more of the Defiant than we've
ever seen for right, we can see some rooms in
engineering and stuff that we've never seen before. So we're
already getting more sets when it comes to Defiant. So
a lot really happens in this episode. Even though it
seems small and contained, it really.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Isn't I that this was go ahead? Oh no, I
was just gonna say that I found myself surprised to
see Eddington in some of the scenes me too, true,
just surprised given some of the events, which I can't
say with that spoiling anything, but it's it's definitely something

(53:34):
that I think will be thought provoking to people that
are watching this for the first time. I think it's
absolutely an episode worth watching twice because you'll you'll want
to see where you where you think certain things have changed,
or you'll want to see where you some thinks of
your guesses were wrong, has big consequences for one character

(53:56):
in particular, and pretty chilling line of dialogue. I will
say to the end of the episode, something that's whispered,
which is right when you want to watch this episode
all over again. There's one scene in particular where one
character does a bit of slight of hand. You can
kind of tell that they are. But then when you

(54:19):
see how things resolve, and when you go further into
the series, you'll want to watch this one all over
again to see if there was a lot more happening.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
So, if I remember correctly, there's an episode of season
five that comes back to stuff that happens in this episode.
Is that Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (54:38):
I feel like that's right.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Okay, yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Right, yeah yeah. This This was going to originally be
a cliffhanger were they were planning on doing a cliffhanger,
but for some reason, Paramount came to them and said, Nope, nope,
don't do that. Nobody knows the reason why Paramount said no,
but they veted. It ended up moving that the story
that they had originally written for next season. The next
season is two parter, so we got this episode, and

(55:02):
I think, in my opinion, it's probably better. It's no,
not probably, it definitely is better. It's a it's a
much better ending. I'm glad that they didn't go with
cliffhangers like they did with the Next Generation. It gives
deep space to sign a different feel, a different style, but
it allows them this ominous endings without having the to
be continued at the end, you know, leaving you wanting

(55:23):
more at the end in this episode more than any
of them have really let you want more. You can't
wait to see what happens for season four.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Yeah, well, it feels like it makes sense to say,
like we're already running with pretty long development marks. We're
having a lot of two and three partners in this.
Let's kind of spare people from the fatigue of saying like,
I've got to wait like a whole a few months
at least before I can see a resolution. Feels like
that we get kind of tiring.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
But yeah, and now, of course, with every season, not
every episode turns out to be the classic Star Trek
hit that we all love. Sometimes an episode may not
work either. It's the script that's lackluster and boring. The
actor wouldn't or the ethics looks like something straight out
of the original series. These are the episodes to skip
our dishonorable mentions, David, I'll have you go first.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
You know, it pains me to pick this one because
it is directed by the amazing Jonathan Freakes, and of
course I'm going with episode eight Meridian. Cisco wants to
explore the Gamma Quander, so they find an area of
void of planets until they find one, call it Meridian.
It is here get Sea falls in love with a
scientist on a planet whose inhabitants shift between this universe

(56:38):
and a plane of pure energy every like sixty years,
I think it is. We also see an alien on
DS nine named Tyrann that is trying to romanticize Kira
and it ends up request a hollow suit of her
from Quirk.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Yuck yuck norins Rinse, Rinse.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
No, thank you, avoid this episode.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
I agree, that's that was That was my pick as well.
The star Trek Brigadoon. Not a big fan. I think
it's interesting to I forget what episode it is, but
there's an episode of Lower Decks where they kind of
uh ras on this one a little bit. Yeah, yeah, Wayne,

(57:24):
what about.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
You, well, I think I'll make a unanimous and you know,
like you said, I understand what they're trying to do.
They were trying to do a Star Trek version of brigadoone,
but that romance element with Jed, Zia and Durell, it
just doesn't work for me. H. Terry Farrell is a
fantastic actors. So the fault isn't hers. It must lie

(57:47):
in the script, in the directing and I and that's
where I place it. It's you know, it's the whole
episode is all talk, talk, talk, and there's no really
no action for forty five minutes. But the story is
so obvious. You know, there's no peril because we know
Jed's he is going to return to the station. She's
not going to fall in love and stay there. We
know that's going to you know what happened. And I'm
not a big fan of episodes that do this. You know,

(58:07):
Deep Space nine does do romantic episodes good, but so
far in the last three seasons, we've all picked the
romantic episodes as being some of the worst. And then there's,
of course that's there's the quarks Hollow Sweet Program. It's hilarious,
but it's it's creepy. It is.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
No, I feel like there's bottle episodes and there's candle episodes,
and this is.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Definitely a candle light candle episode. I know that reference
to you. And finally, for every season, we place the
spotlight on one character and give our favorite moments. For
season three, our light is shown on the station's very
own Constable Odo Scott. What's your favorite Odo moment this season?

Speaker 3 (58:52):
It is so hard to pick it is and at
the same time very easy for me because I would
say Heart of Stone, the moment when Odo figures out
the mystery of this episode. The range of acting that

(59:14):
Renee is able to provide through all that prosthesis is astonishing,
and what he and the writers have done with this character,
it's nothing short of amazing. I think Heart of Stone
is one that bears watching a second time as soon
as you finish it, to try if you can see

(59:35):
if you can figure it certain things out, but also
just Renee's performance in it is definitely worth a rewatch.
That's my pick, Dave, What about you? So?

Speaker 4 (59:45):
I told her you, guys, I had picked two of
them because I knew this was going to happen that
was My first pick was Heart of Stone. It was
just his line where he says, how meeting Kiera Crew
and even Quirk, he is no longer nothing he thinks
of me. Now, that was just absolutely amazing, Scott. Since
you've got to kind of pick that, I'm gonna I'll
go with another one, just to just to be different.

(01:00:06):
So I'm gonna go with the Search part two. When
I don't know how I can say this without giving
anything away.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Let's let's say just five four three two one. There's
gonna be a spoiler. Just deal with it and come
back in fifteen seconds.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
So when he realizes he is home and even says it,
the smile and the joy we get to see on
his face, Yeah, the pure happiness on him just sets
just just just warms your heart because you don't really
have never seen that from Odo, that that smile, Yeah,

(01:00:47):
and to see that then and there just man, it
just makes you feel so good for him. Then, of
course all the crap hits the fan, of course, but still,
it was that moment that really, you know, this is
a great Odo moment.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
It's childlike, it is right like, and it's genuine like.
It doesn't it's oh, and when you when you see
all the rest that he goes through after that, mm hmm, yeah,
it was. It was a it was a pleasure to see.
So I'm glad you. I'm glad you mentioned that moment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
You know, Wayne, what about you, I'm going to choose
something different, but I love both your choices, and in
fact I considered both of those. But in order not
to spoil anything from the episode, I'm going to keep
this down to like one specific scene and it's from
the Day is cast, and it's when Odo is being
interrogated by Garrick. You know, Grek has that device that

(01:01:39):
keeps Odo from shape shifting, and he begins to waste
away and peel away like little pieces or something, and
Gerrek is just he's so frustrated that Odo is not talking,
and he gets down on his knees and he yells,
you know, tell me something anything, you know, lie if
you don't, if you have to, but just say something please,
And Odo, you know, comes back to him says, home,
I want to go home. But he's not talking about
Deep Space nine. He's he's talking about three Link and

(01:02:02):
and just the the the the anguish that the sadness
in uh Odo in rene opvision VA's eyes. Just it
makes that seem so powerful because Odo and Garrick are
like polar opposites, you know, they're They're both different, so
different and intellects so different in their morals. But that

(01:02:23):
makes every scene in this episode between the two and them,
I'm just so tense. It's just an incredible character moment
for Odo and an incredible performance. And that's why I
chose that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
That is an amazing That is an amazing pick. Yeah,
especially what you said about home, Like you think in
that moment you want to be in a place of
comfort that you've always known, you would think, right. The
fact that he doesn't do that, and that he longs

(01:02:54):
for a home that he still doesn't know all that
well is are you telling? And very heartbreaking? He says,
I would give up everything that I know to be
in this place that I've never known. That's wow, that's
a heavy hit.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
It is a lot of good order moments in the season.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Yes, there are, and there you have it. Our top
ten episodes Starter Trek Choices from the third season of
Star Trek Deep Space nine. We'd like to open a
channel to our listeners and hear just what you thought
about our choices and the season in general. You can
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(01:03:36):
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and Scott for joining me through the wormhole once again.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Yeap.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Likewise, next episode, we'll give you our top ten episodes
from season four, a season full of new friends, returning characters,
and Cisco's bald head. We look forward to returning to
Deep Space nine and to you our listeners on the
next episode of Phasers. Set to Stunt written by Robert

(01:04:17):
Whoittt World written by Robert who witt War I cannot
say his name.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
It's not Warf, It's war Wolf.