September 19, 2025 • 46 mins
Jeff, Amber, and Andrew take pause to pay tribute to Robert Redford with an impromptu discussion about their top 10 favorite performances by the iconic actor.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I like to let things go. I like to be
let go as an actor. I don't want to be
over controlled as an actor. He used to hate it.
I like best when I said, what do you want now?
Let me go?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hello everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm Amber Lewis, and I am Andrew Blakeley.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And this is a Film by podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So this past Tuesday, Oscar winning director, actor activist icon
really Robert Redford passed away in his sleep at the
age of eighty nine. I think it wasn't more in
an hour had passed after that, after news broke that
that I heard from both of you about it, and
(01:07):
just like, wow, I can't believe. You know, Redford's one
of those guys that we just assumed. I just assumed
like he he will. He will always make movies. He's
been making movies since before we were born, and he'll
continue to do so. Just a you know, I don't
want to say it's a it's a shock. You know,
he was eighty nine years old. So I think I
(01:28):
think this is a moment where we can celebrate his life.
We can celebrate what what he gave us. Amber, do
you recall the first time you took notice of Robert Redford,
like do you remember what movie it was that where
you're like, oh, this guy's a movie star, this guy's amazing.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Very young. My parents loved Butch.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Cassidy and The Sundance Kid and The Sting, and we
watched those like quite often and quoted them a lot.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
So were the first two where I was like, knew
who he was and you know, appreciated what he did.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
How about it, Andrew, I, honestly, it'd be hard for
me to say he's you know, he's been around since,
like you said, before I was born. He'd made a
dozen classics. So I can't even pinpoint it. You know,
as a kid, I remember watching The Natural, I remember
watching The Sting. I remember watching Sneakers we had on VHS.
I watched that one all the time, you know. So
it's it's hard to say when when it first came about.
(02:29):
He's just always been there.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So what we're going to do today, it's not exactly
our normal format, but we did want to take a
moment to show our appreciation. So what we're doing is
our top ten Robert Redford film.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Roles, you know, be it film, be a TV.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I know he's done some amazing television work. And I
want to clarify you know that we're not saying that
these are the best performances.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
You know, we're not ranking them.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
This is just I think after the conversation the three
of us off off, Mike was you know, these are
these are the ten that that stand out to us.
These are our favorites. So I wouldn't say there are
any any particular order. But let's let's get it. Let's
jump into this amber. What do you have for our
(03:16):
number ten choice?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
So this is a newer one from twenty thirteen. The
film is All Is Lost.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
This is it the Virginia gene An SOS call Over.
This is the Virginia gene An SOS call Over. This
is the Virginia gene with an SS call over.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
And he plays a character known only as our Man.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
There's almost no dialogue in this movie.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I think there's like thirty two words, fifty two words
something like that in the whole entire movie. I am
obsessed with this movie. I absolutely love it. There I
read somewhere once that people die in the wilderness because
of lack of imagination.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
And this movie is about a guy who.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Is incredibly intelligent, incredibly prepared, Like he's not just wandering
out in the world, and he is on a sailboat
that is sinking and he has to work the problem,
and he's all by himself, and the cheat would be
(04:44):
to have him like talk to himself, you know.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
And he does not do that.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
You are just watching Robert Redford, who I think conveys
you know, everybody talks about how gorgeous he was, and
of course he was, but he also conveys an incredible intelligence,
and this movie is him. You're watching him think, and
you're watching him methodically work the problem.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Andrew, you're nodding and smiling a lot.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
What's what's your take on this one?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I only watched this movie maybe two years ago. I
stumbled on it by accident, not even looking for Robert Redford.
The score is done by Alex Ebert, who's the front
man for Edward Sharp and the Magnetic Zeros, and I'm
a big fan of them, so when I heard he
did the score for this movie with almost no dialogue,
I was like, Oh, check it out, and then boom,
there's Robert Redford. So I'm so glad it's on the
(05:34):
list because it really caught me off gard and it
blew me away. He's so engaging that it doesn't feel
like a gimmick that there's no dialogue. It feels very
natural and you can't look away.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So I'm gonna be honest, I have not seen this
one yet, and you know it kinda I think it
kind of had a quiet opening it when it first
came out, and I always thought, oh, that could be good.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
But after hearing Amber describe it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It, Amber, you're giving me a real Santiago old Man
of the Sea vibe. Yeah, you know, so, I'm i
and I love that. I love that book. So I'm
definitely gonna check this one out. Guys, A great pick, Andrew,
what do you have at number nine?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Number nine? We have sneakers and she's using you to
get to her.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
And she's using me to get to you. I know,
I know that's confusing. If you love him, if you
really love him, then just keep on loving him and
give him head whenever he wants.
Speaker 9 (06:37):
Give him help, be a be a beacon in a
sad and lonely life.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Can you do that for Gunner?
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Yes, I get out of here, give him a head,
be a beacon.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I know I mentioned it once already, but I absolutely
love this movie as a kid. The cast is stacked
with talent. It's got Sidney Pottier, Dan Aykroyd, Young River, Phoenix,
Ben Kingsley. But heading it up is Robert Redford, and
he is a somewhat reformed criminal leading a group of
(07:22):
the same and so it's got some fun heist vibes.
It's really funny. It's just classic classic nineties humor carried
by just an unbelievable cast. I've seen this movie probably
about a thousand times. I could quote it so much.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
This has been on the film by list for a
couple of seasons, like a maybe we can get Sneakers
in this month, And I'm a big fan of Martin Marty.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Bishop, so I think we're gonna probably get to this one.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Judging and Amber, just just judging by her expression just now,
it sounds like you two will be the ones covered.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
That episode when we do it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But uh, Amber, obviously you're a fan of Sneakers.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You're a fan of Bishop and Sneakers.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Yes, yes, I'm slightly older than Andrew, so I was
just graduated high school and I remember going with a
group of friends to see it and just having a
great time. And I was working at Blockbuster Video at
the time, so I got like a cheap copy and
wore it out.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Fantastic film.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Now I think we're gonna we're gonna zag here on
the number eight pick, because I gotta be honest.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I was surprised.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I was pleasantly surprised Amber when you mentioned this one,
because now you're taking us into that that television realm,
specifically to nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Who's your pick here?
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Okay, So for those of you that were timing, what
are we like five minutes in? I'm getting choked up.
So this is a Twilight Zone episode. It is one
of my favorites from season three. It's episode sixteen, Nothing
in the Dark, and he plays a mysterious young man.
(09:16):
He's so young and so beautiful, and he shows up
at this old woman's apartment. And I don't want to
like reveal the twist, but it's cat. She is afraid
of dying, and she won't leave her apartment because she's
(09:36):
afraid if she goes out, she's going to die.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
She's going to meet death, and she will die.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
And the reveal is that he was death and he
was with her all along.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
And he holds his arms out and he says, look,
is this so bad?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You kick me?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
It was you all the time?
Speaker 8 (10:02):
Yes, I tricked you, But why.
Speaker 10 (10:08):
The moment I let you inside. You could have taken
me anytime, but you and nice You made me trust you,
But I.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
Had to make you understand. Am I really so bad?
Am I really so frightening?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
It's okay?
Speaker 6 (10:35):
And there was nothing in the dark that wasn't there
in the light all the time.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Maybe the most charming grim reaper of all time.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
This poor woman he.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Beats, He beats out Brad Pitt and meet Joe.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Black he does. Yeah, that's no easy feet.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But I think this has got to be one of
the most This is probably the earliest, maybe the first
time we've seen a study in agoraphobia showing up in
television or film. This old woman who has you know,
Rod Soling has explained to us, has cheated death thousands
of times, has now relegated herself to She's like in
(11:15):
this crummy Rundown basement apartment. It's a the building's dilapidated.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yeah, they're going to tear it down, and they're about
to tear it down.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
She will not leave because she's that petrified of dying.
And the way I won't spoil it, Okay, I won't
spoil this part, but the way he gets in the
door is so clever, especially when the you know, the
next the next person comes knocking and uh, you know,
it's it's twilight and so it's meant to be creepy
and a little little scary, but the way he makes
(11:46):
it okay to accept fate, it's it's it's it's actually amber.
This is a great pick because he's he's doing a
whole lot in what twenty two minutes short? Yeah, I
mean yeah, And I'll tell you if if you got
to go, you know, Robert Redford holding his hand out
(12:09):
to you, that's not a bad way to go, honestly. Uh,
let's take a quick break and when we come back,
we'll talk a little bit about Robert Redford the director,
and we'll continue with our top ten. Welcome back, we
are talking about our top ten favorite Robert Redford film roles.
(12:33):
It's no doubt he's he was an incredible actor, but
let's not forget he.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Was an incredible director.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So I got to ask you guys, because I know
we've collectively, we've probably seen all of his the films
that he's directed.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Amber.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
If you had to suggest a title to someone, if
someone came up to you and said, oh, I didn't
know he directed movies, you know, did he do anything good?
What's the title that you're going to tell people to
go go out and watch.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
There are a handful of movies that I would define
as perfect, and this is one of them.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
A River Runs Throat.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I think it's absolutely It's beautifully shot, it has beautiful music, the.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Performances are amazing.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
It's just absolutely one of the most heartbreakingly beautiful movies.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And Andrew it it stars Brad Pitt, not as the
Grim Reaper.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
No, Brad Pet's basically playing Robert Redford.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
He's playing Robert Redford. Let's go, let's call it what
it is.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Brad Pitt's a young Robert Redford. They're both obnoxiously good
looking but amazing actors.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
To boo tho, Yeah, how about it? Andrew? What movie?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
What Robert Redford directed film? Would you recommend to people?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And as she said, he did so many, but for
me it was an obvious choice. It blew me away.
The first time I saw it as his nineteen ninety
four movie Quiz Show. It's it's tense and it's extremely
well shut it. It's kind of like it reminds me
of the Social Network in that on paper, the story
is really boring, and get somehow you manage to make
it really tense and thrilling and engaging. Fantastic movie, fantastic pacing.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
I just love it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, listen, I'll tell you both right now. There was
no wrong answer there, there was no bad suggestion there.
So but Quiz Show and River runs that they would
probably be at the top of my list. But back
to the list at hand, our top ten favorite roles.
I'm gonna jump in here real quick because I listen,
(14:40):
you guys had some great choices. Fortunately for me, You
can't You kind of had a little bit of crossover
that gave me a chance to drop two in there.
So for number seven, I got to talk about Jeremiah
Johnson in Jeremiah Johnson.
Speaker 11 (14:59):
There's pa been trapped out since twenty five?
Speaker 12 (15:04):
What are you doing here? Then?
Speaker 11 (15:05):
I hunt Grizz Grizz Grizz or Bears Pilgrim, I Collect
the Claws.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I had one on that ticket back there ready to
shake hands?
Speaker 12 (15:16):
Would you come along?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I'm sorry that that you look hungry too, huh?
Speaker 10 (15:24):
Come on, you know how to.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Skin grizz I can skin most anything.
Speaker 12 (15:36):
Sure her or Cocky for a Starving.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Field Group nineteen seventy two, directed by Sidney Pollock. So
if you if you hadn't seen this one, if you
needed a reason, you don't need many. But you know
Pollock was an incredible director, and this is this is
certainly evidence of that. It's based on the story of
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real life trapper and mountain man John Johnston, who was
known as the Crow Killer.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
This is a nickname he earned.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Because it was after members of the Crow tribe murdered
his wife that Johnston swore vengeance on the entire tribe.
Redford is on the record as saying this is his
favorite among the films he started.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Have you guys, I have either of you seen this?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Because I know this is It's nineteen seventy two, so
I know we're going way back.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I'm embarrassed to say that I haven't. This is one
of those ones that's been on my list for years,
you know, I think it's it's an iconic film. Well
for him, I'm aware of it, but no, I've just
I've never seen it.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
How about an.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Amber, I've seen it, but it's been a really long time.
It's time for a revisit.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think what the irony here is that today's generation
probably uses a very specific gift from the movie.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Without even knowing that it is, in fact Robert Redford.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
You know, we're talking about the bearded man who just
looks to the side and gives you that knowing smile
like you're doing something right. So, hey, kids, every time
you share that, you're actually sharing Jeremiah Johnson.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
So keep keep that in mind.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And on a personal note, I was this close to
being named Jeremiah Johnson because of this film.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
My father campaigned h rather.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Rather vigorously with my mother that you know, because they
were there, they knew was it gonna be a J name.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
They just didn't know which.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And uh, he wanted Jeremiah Johnson and unfortunately she did not.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
So you know, I could have called you double J
either way.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I'm okay with right, It's it's all good.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yeah, my nickname would have stood, you know, uh, the
same regardless. But yeah, just a fantastic movie. And again,
you know, when you're talking Pollock, the cinematographer on this
movie's gorge just because we're out you know, it's the
American West, and it's it's incredible.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Well and again a lot of you know, long interrupted
scenes with no dialogue.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I would, and I would tell anyone, like, if
you haven't seen this movie, and maybe you're a big
fan of Dances.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
With Wolves, yeah, not a bad double feature.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You know, you know, And I don't want to spoil
the whole movie, but basically, Jeremiah Johnson, he's a mountain
you know. He decides to kind of go off live
in the mountains on his own, be a hermit. And
after a time he does, he does find himself a
nice woman to settle down with. And then there's a
a bit of controversy with the the the Crow Tribe
(18:35):
Native Americans.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
So definitely one to watch.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
As for number six, I'm gonna tell you guys right now,
this is, without a doubt my all time favorite Robert
Rever performance. And I say that knowing that the Sting
is out there and Butcher Cassidy and Sundance Kids out there,
and you know, there's a lot of great performances out there,
but I'm telling you there's something about General Irwin in
(19:00):
The Last Castle, which came out in two thousand and one,
that is absolutely incredible.
Speaker 13 (19:08):
These salutes, I've given them some thought, and technically they
are not a violation of regulations. So if the inmates
can confine themselves to a simple hand movement through the hair,
I see no problem with it. And if the men
(19:32):
want to call you chief, well that's fine. Then free speech.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
And all that.
Speaker 14 (19:39):
Okay, then no, not okay, it's too late, colonel, it's
too late for one through your offer. The men don't
want a salute, they don't want to use rank, they
don't want better food, they don't want more TV.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
They just want your resignation. So do I.
Speaker 13 (20:00):
My resignation or disgrace?
Speaker 14 (20:01):
Colonel, a disgrace to the uniform? You should not be
allowed to retain your command?
Speaker 13 (20:09):
Well, then I better go back.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
I think you should.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Tell me, mister Irwin, what's to stop me from just
placing you in the hole for say six months?
Speaker 8 (20:23):
Nothing, that's the way you want to win.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
This was shot on location at a former prison at Tennessee,
which coincidentally is the same prison that they used for
the Green Mile.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Your thoughts on this one. Aber. Have you seen The
Last Castle with Redford and James Gandolfini.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I have not. It sounds a lot like Brew Baker.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
He went in in that one and cleaned up a prison,
but that's probably more brutal.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Than now Brew Baker man and against a cruel system,
you know.
Speaker 15 (21:01):
This.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So General Irwin is uh, he's court martialed for insubordination
and he's sent to this military prison where the commandant
is played by James Gandolfini, who has a real chip
on his shoulder, you know, because he wants to be
that that military leader that has you know, military experience,
(21:22):
and he's regulated to you know, running this prison. And
of course, uh, General Erwin is a very famous figure.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
In popular culture. Everyone knows him. He's written books, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
He's kind of like a Storm and Norman type for
those of you that remember Desert Storm.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
But it's just it's an incredible cast.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
James Gandolfini, Robert Redford, you got uh, Mark Ruffalo, who
I know in the past I've said I'm not a
big fan of Ruffalo. There's a handful of movies where
I really like him. This is one of those where
Ruffalo is just on point in playing an incredible part.
Del worry Lindo is in this amber. I'm telling you,
(22:06):
you're gonna love this film, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Gonna love it.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Fascinating. So on the list it goes.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, Redford.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Redford carries it in my opinion. I mean, he's the
reason to watch it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think, oh gosh, he's he well Andrew, you know,
he's he conveys leadership without without.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Even trying, right. Yeah, and it's funny.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
One of my favorite stories about this movie is Redford
actually needed about fifteen to twenty takes to get his
salute right, which is ironic because the scene in question, Andrew,
you know which scene I'm about to talk about. The
scene in question is him teaching another prisoner how you
know what the history of saluting is and how how
to properly do it. So the fact that director's out
(22:49):
there calling cut because he's having some troubles with it
is a little funny.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That is pretty good, especially the amount of times they
salute terribly movies. But like, that's the one scene you
really can't that's the one important it right this time.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, and it's it's interesting too.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I won't spoil it for Amber, But just what he
has to say about the history of saluting really cool.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Let's talk about number.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Five, Andrew and uh, this is a genre that you're
no stranger to.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, we've talked about it more than once, but that's
not the reason it's on here. So I want to
talk about him as Alexander Pierce in Captain America and
the Winter Soldier.
Speaker 12 (23:26):
For immediate hearing.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Don't need hearings, we need action.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Is this Council's duty to overseas shield.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Breeds like this raises a serious question.
Speaker 15 (23:33):
Like how the hell did a French pirate manage the
hijack of covert shield vessel in broad daylight?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
With the record councilman, he's Algerian.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
I can draw a map of it. Help.
Speaker 15 (23:44):
I appreciate your wit, Secretary Pierce, but this Council takes
things like international piracy fairly seriously.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Really, I don't.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
I don't care about one vote. I care about the fleet.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
This is going to fall to ranker every time someone pushes.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Us on the playing field. Maybe we need someone to
oversee us, Secretary.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
The reason this one went on my list isn't just
my love for Captain America. It's he was such a
brilliant choice to cast as a villain or an antagonist,
partially in the MCU in general because you know, as
we said, he's so charming. His leadership that he just
his gravitasity carries makes him such a great hero that
(24:31):
it was a really interesting turn. And the moment that
you like realize now that he's the villain in the movie,
I think was spoiled by the marketing.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Unfortunately, sadly.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, but it's such a great turn, and from a
casting standpoint, what I love about it is if the
MCU had started twenty thirty years earlier, he would have
been Captain America. He's like, oh gosh, the perfect choice
to be Captain America. So to cast him as, you know,
a hydro operative and to have him be so charming
and so likable that even as as you know, he
(25:00):
is straight up controlling, ruling the world evil, you still
kind of like him a little bit. He's still kind
of charming. Like his relationship with Samuel L. Jackson's fury
is it's it's it's cool, like it's nice. You know,
even when he's bullshitting you, you kind of fall for it
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Uh, Peggy Carter.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I mean, uh, amber lewis this this one?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
This one was on your list as well.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Uh, tell tell me about your your thoughts on his performance.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Well, this actually when I heard that he had died,
this was the first movie that I thought of It
made that much of an impact. It's this movie is
one of my, if not the favorite MCU film, and uh,
you know what he brings to it. It sort of
(25:49):
elevates the story and changes what the MCU was doing
from just superhero villain to like a seventies conspiracy thriller
kind of thing. And it's just absolutely awesome to watch.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
The problem with his villain is that it's really difficult
to dislike him because he's so damn charismatic. You know,
he's he's Robbert, He's like Michael B.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Jordan and Black Panther, Like.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, he's not rock And I know he's a bag,
I know.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
A good point.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, And he was able to do it without any
physical threat, Like there's no fight. You know, he doesn't
have to punch Captain America. He's he's an amazing villain
just by being charming.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
He doesn't have to twirl a mustache or you.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Know, if he did. He'd pull it off though, because
he's he would.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
He would, he would, he absolutely would. Guys, Let's take
another quick break and when we get back, we'll keep uh,
we'll keep going on with the top the top ten.
All right, guys, back to the top ten.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Amber.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I believe we have arrived at the number four pick.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yes, this is the one swooning romance entry that I
had to make from nineteen eighty five out of Africa.
He plays Dennis finch Hatton and he's as untamed as
early nineteen hundreds Africa itself, and every single man should
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have to watch the scene where he washes Meryl Streep's hair, laughed.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Loud and long, and all the while his eyes went
to and fro. Haha, quoth he full plane. I see
the devil knows how to roll.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
Farewell farewell.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Yes, where I leave out the doll parts, farewell farewell.
But this I tell to thee our wedding guest, lay
your head back, prayeth well, loveth well, both man and
bird and beast.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
It should be required viewing for.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
All of you.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna argue this pick. It's
it's an incredible performance.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
It's another one I haven't seen.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
I know.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I'm sorry. It's killing me.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Andrew.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It did, It did win the Academy Awards for Best
Directing and Best Score. It's a it's an amazing John
Barry score h nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
You listen when I when it came out. When I
was a kid, I was like, no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
But as an adult, it's it is. It is peak
Redford and uh, Amber's right.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
You know this that. I mean him and Him and
Street together, they they're cooking.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yeah, they really swimmingly romantic. Your wife will thank you.
Your wife will thank me for telling you.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I'll make sure to let her know you said so.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I say, don't show the movie.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Just just wash your hair, just steal his move, and
you know, just take take all the glory. Uh, Andrew,
let's uh, let's get back to something a little less romantic.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Unless we're talking romantic. What do you have for number three?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's that's the perfect word for it. We got Butch
Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid.
Speaker 12 (29:37):
No real chump.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Like hell, we will no, It'll be okay. It's lors
deep enough. We don't get squished to death.
Speaker 12 (29:47):
He'll never follow how do you know would you make
a jump like that?
Speaker 8 (29:50):
You didn't have to.
Speaker 15 (29:51):
I have to, and I'm not gonna what we got
to otherwise we're dead.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
They're just gonna have to go back down the same
way they come. Come on, just one clear shot.
Speaker 12 (29:59):
That's all I want. We got to get away from me.
I want to fight him.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
He'll kill us.
Speaker 12 (30:05):
Maybe you want to die?
Speaker 15 (30:06):
Do you.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
All right?
Speaker 8 (30:11):
I'll jump first? Nope? Then you jump first?
Speaker 12 (30:14):
Oh, I said, what's the matter with you? I can't swim?
Why are you crazy? The fall will probably kill you.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Paul Newman and Redford at their most charming, they're most handsome,
and it's the most iconic duo. I love this movie.
I think so many movies tried to capture this energy.
This you know this buddy cop Outlaw five. I don't
think anybody's done it as successfully. The ending is top
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five endings of all time as far as I'm concerned. Yes,
I mean just a the freeze frame of them, you know,
running out is it's iconic. I love this movie. It's
it feels good, it's funny, it's got action, it's got
it's got everything. It's just you just want to be
these guys.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Ember it's this one comes out in nineteen sixty nine.
But as far as westerns go, it it holds up.
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Oh my goodness, yes, And there chemistry and banter is
just absolutely sparkles.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
She says, it sparkles.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
I like that, Jeff, you and you and I have
jumped off of a JuffEd off of a cliff into
water in the desert. I gotta tell you, the first
time we did that, all I could picture was, you know,
them running jumping off that cliff together. That that helped
get me over that hump.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It absolutely helped me when when someone says, yeah, you
got to jump, it's it's only forty feet down. I
just thought, okay, I'm I'm Butcher Andrew, Hey, Sundance, let's
let's do this. It does take the edge off when
you're when you're doing something like that.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
But yeah, this one's a classic.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
It's an all time great, all time great for the
Western genre.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Now let's go to number two because.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
If you if you like him, uh you know, in
the Buddy roll. But now you want to take a
little more seriously, Amber the.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Best journalism movie in the history of journalism movies all
the presidents men.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Where are you stuck? The story is stalled on this
and you thought i'd help. I'll ever quote.
Speaker 14 (32:53):
I wouldn't quote you, even as an anonymous source.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
I mean you'd be on deep background.
Speaker 9 (32:58):
You can trust me, you know that. Can you tell
me what you know?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
You tell me what you know?
Speaker 14 (33:06):
The story is dry.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
All we've got here or pieces. We can't seem to
figure out what the puzzle is supposed to look like.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Forget the myths that the media is created about the
White House.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
You tell me what you know and I'll confirm. I'll
keep you in the right direction if I can. But
that's all.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
We covered this one on our limited nineteen seventy six series.
You're right, Ambert, what it's if you're watching a journalism movie,
which I'd love to do like a Top five Journalist
Movies episode at some point in the future. But this
one is the number one pick.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Right, Yes, yes, absolutely, I am. I'm obsessed with journalism movies.
I love it, and this one is it just captures
like the excitement and the tedium of you know, building
the story brick by brick, and you know there's one scene,
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there's one long, uninterrupted five minute scene of him on
the phone and Robert Redford on the phone, like your
body's clenched, you're holding your breath, like to see what's
going to happen.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
And it's a one sided conversation.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
I mean, it's just absolutely him trying to pull this
information out of this guy is just awesome.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
It's unimaginable charisma, Like he could sit on screen for
five minutes just talking, like you said, and you can't
look away, and not many people can.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I think one of the things that he does really
well here and he teaches this in other films that
he's done with other actors. This is just as much
Dustin Hoffman's movie as it is his.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
But he never he never outshadows his co star. He shares.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I feel like he shares the screen very generously with
any co star, you guys, is am I right?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Or oh? Absolutely? I mean he's He's a consummate professional
And that does remind me though. There was a really
funny story I wanted to share, and it's not a
movie that Redford was in, but it's a movie that
he thought he could do. So Charles Webb directed The
Graduate and when he was trying to cast all these
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different people. He's trying to find that the right person
for it. He knew Redford, and Redford was putting himself
up for the role. He's like, I should do it,
and and Webb said to him, you can't. You can't
play a loser. And He's like, what do you mean.
I'm I'm an actor. Of course I can play a loser.
And according to red Webb, he said, Okay, have you
ever struck out with a girl? And Redford's response was,
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what do you mean? And he was not doking. He
didn't understand the question. Yeah, and that is why he
did not get the role in The Graduate, but Arman
Dustin Hoffman did, and it was iconic in that as well.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I just I just wish I could be there when
Hoffman heard that story for the first time.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
That's definitely a shot to his ego.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I mean, you can't stand in Redford's presence and not
not get it a little bit, you know.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
No, no, you can't. Guys.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Let's let's take one more quick break and then we
will be back with an honorable mention and our pick
for number one in our top ten favorite Robert Redford performances.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Well, guys, we are here we have arrived.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It's no it's no secret how I feel about honorable
honorable mentions. But if it gives us a chance, if
it gives us a chance to talk just a little
bit longer about an amazing actor like Robert Redford, then
I guess I'm okay with it. So before we talk
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about our choice for number one, let's briefly offer a
few honorable mentions, because, truthfully, with eighty nine film roles
to his credit, our list is missing some very noteworthy roles.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
So Amber, you made the.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Phone call first on Tuesday, so I'm gonna I'm gonna
let you offer your honorable mention first.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
So it's like not one of his greatest movies, but
I love.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
This movie and I love him in it.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Tom Logan in Legal Eagles, Yeah, all right, it's this sweet,
little like lawyer thriller romance kind of eighties ridiculousness. But
there's a whole section right in the middle where he
and Deborah Winger are in They're each in their own apartment,
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and they're both have insomnia, and the ridiculous things that
they do to like just try to like wear themselves
out to go to sleep, and you know, he's like
tap dancing in the bathroom and it's just absurd, and
he's so charming and so funny, and I just adore
this movie.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Those of you that have been with us for a
little bit, you know, we had a very long running
limited series called nineteen eighty six. This movie Legal Eagles,
which came out nineteen eighty six, did not make our
initial run. But then when we brought back the eighty
six series on our Patreon, we promised to do twenty more,
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so that we did eighty six movies for nineteen eighty six.
Our very good friend Jason Colvin from the Surely You
Can't Be Serious podcast, he came over and talked Legal
Eagles with me. It's a very fun episode.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
All the more reason to check out our Patreon.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Go over there right now, get yourself signed up for
a free seven day trial, and pick leg Legals first,
because that was a fun one.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
It's a good time.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Andrew an honorable mention, sir.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I'm glad I got the opportunity to do this because
I really like this movie. I don't think it should
make a top ten list, but it's worth talking about.
It's a twenty eighteen film called The Old Man and
the Gun. He plays a career criminal named Forest Tucker.
It's a biographical movie about him, and he's just charming
and it's fun. And I really like Robert Redford as
he's aged into these roles. He really embraces the humor
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that can come with it and you know, uses his
gravitas in a much more subtle way. And so I
do definitely recommend it. It's sort of a crime comedy
type thing, but really really good, and he is just
delightful in it.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
You know, you're talking about a crime comedy. And I
guess it would be criminal for me not to use
my honorable mention to talk about Johnny Hooker in the
sting because again, an all time great Uh.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I won't, I won't. I won't even start talking because
we'd be here like another hour time. I love to sing, you.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Know, Andrew, if you uh, if you hadn't made the
phone call and I had, I had more picks than
this thing definitely would have made this top ten list.
But I'm gonna I'm gonna throw it in there now
as as an am wall mention, just to be just
be fair.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
It was wild to me it didn't make the top ten.
I didn't put it in my I I had to
cut it for mine, and I was like, it's okay,
somebody else will say it. I'm sure that's what let's
tell myself.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
It's it ain't about what what we think people want
to hear.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
It's about what are our favorites. So, you know, and
I'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
You know, there's been some movies mentioned here where I
have to believe that there's probably some listeners going.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
I've never heard of that movie, you know, I've never
heard I didn't.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
I don't remember him in that movie, you know, Old
Man of the Gun. That's that's a new one on me.
I didn't even know that existed.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
So and all is lost.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I gotta go see that for the non dialogue Robert
Refford movie apparently ever but uh yeah, so you gotta
you gotta share your favorites. And with that we have
arrived at the role we collectively feel as our favorite.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Go pick me out a winner, Andrew.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
This was number one the second I started thinking of
a list. I think it's probably true for all of us.
It's Roy Hobbes in the Natural. It is a beautiful,
beautiful movie. You know, we've talked about sports movies and
baseball movies plenty of times. In this tops the list
almost every time. It's this haunting, beautiful story, gothic feel.
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But it's just it's the love of baseball. It's the
second chance, it's the the effort and the beauty. And
Robert Redford just carries all of it with such subtlety.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
But you can't look away. No, it's I'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
The moment I heard about his passing on Tuesday, I
heard the score to the Natural in my head, and
I thought about the home run and the lights exploding it.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
I don't care. I'll argue it with anyone. The greatest
home run hit of all time.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
In any film, maybe one of the greatest moments of
all time in a sports film.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
I mean, I don't know what. I don't know. I
don't know what topsy, I really don't.
Speaker 6 (43:02):
I heard his voice in my head saying, when I
walk down the street, people say, there goes Roy Hobbes.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
The best there ever was Amber. I know you love
I know you love a good sports movie.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
God in a baseball movie too. Oh my god. Yeah,
I've seen this movie.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
I don't even know how many times I've seen this
movie and listened to the soundtrack, and.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
This is the baseball movie.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
Played baseball in the backyard with my brothers and you know, goodbye,
mister saul.
Speaker 12 (43:31):
Well.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
I mean, you know, playing little League?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
How many you know, how many times did you write
wonder Boy?
Speaker 15 (43:38):
You know?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
You know, I know I'm guilty of it multiple times.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
You know, whether it was that or the Savoy Special.
It's like you know that Lightning bowlt you had to
have it.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, and he's he's this really crazy balance of like
mature and wise but also so innocent in that movie.
It's it's iconic, but I can't even really point to
what makes it iconic because it's just it's so subtle
and it's just pure talent, it is it.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I mean, we know it's a it's a you know,
kind of like a historical film, like as far as
like this the moment in time that that's capturing.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
The sport of baseball.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
But I you know, I could watch it tomorrow, I
could watch it next next year, you know. And I
don't know about you guys, Like when every every time
we get to spring training, I start watching baseball movies.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
This one, this one's gotta be the first one though,
And I don't know why. It just does it just
does well.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
It It's like you said, you know, there was Roy Hobbs,
the best that it ever was. You know, I thought
about this movie yesterday when we heard the news, and
it's you can't be it's not a tragedy that we
lost Redford. You know, he lived an amazing life, he
had an amazing career, but the the mark that he left,
it's impossible to not you know, just just deep in
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your gut, you just kind of feel like this talent,
it was a once in a lifetime thing, you know.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
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this special, impromptu episode so that we could show our
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appreciation to Robert Redford and celebrate some of his memorable
film roles.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Very happy that you both reach you know, reached out
to me. You know, we're we're a you know, we're
like in a crunch mowe right now with our schedule
and the fact that you both wanted to do this,
I was like, well, we'll find time, We'll make time.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
So I thank you both for that.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yes, thank you, Yeah, thank you. I was so excited
to be able to talk about this
Speaker 2 (46:12):
And all of you listening to the show, following us
on social media, and subscribing to our Patreon, we certainly
thank you.
I like to let things go. I like to be
let go as an actor. I don't want to be
over controlled as an actor. He used to hate it.
I like best when I said, what do you want now?
Let me go?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hello everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm Amber Lewis, and I am Andrew Blakeley.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And this is a Film by podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So this past Tuesday, Oscar winning director, actor activist icon
really Robert Redford passed away in his sleep at the
age of eighty nine. I think it wasn't more in
an hour had passed after that, after news broke that
that I heard from both of you about it, and
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just like, wow, I can't believe. You know, Redford's one
of those guys that we just assumed. I just assumed
like he he will. He will always make movies. He's
been making movies since before we were born, and he'll
continue to do so. Just a you know, I don't
want to say it's a it's a shock. You know,
he was eighty nine years old. So I think I
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think this is a moment where we can celebrate his life.
We can celebrate what what he gave us. Amber, do
you recall the first time you took notice of Robert Redford,
like do you remember what movie it was that where
you're like, oh, this guy's a movie star, this guy's amazing.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Very young. My parents loved Butch.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Cassidy and The Sundance Kid and The Sting, and we
watched those like quite often and quoted them a lot.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
So were the first two where I was like, knew
who he was and you know, appreciated what he did.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
How about it, Andrew, I, honestly, it'd be hard for
me to say he's you know, he's been around since,
like you said, before I was born. He'd made a
dozen classics. So I can't even pinpoint it. You know,
as a kid, I remember watching The Natural, I remember
watching The Sting. I remember watching Sneakers we had on VHS.
I watched that one all the time, you know. So
it's it's hard to say when when it first came about.
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He's just always been there.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So what we're going to do today, it's not exactly
our normal format, but we did want to take a
moment to show our appreciation. So what we're doing is
our top ten Robert Redford film.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Roles, you know, be it film, be a TV.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I know he's done some amazing television work. And I
want to clarify you know that we're not saying that
these are the best performances.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
You know, we're not ranking them.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
This is just I think after the conversation the three
of us off off, Mike was you know, these are
these are the ten that that stand out to us.
These are our favorites. So I wouldn't say there are
any any particular order. But let's let's get it. Let's
jump into this amber. What do you have for our
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number ten choice?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
So this is a newer one from twenty thirteen. The
film is All Is Lost.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
This is it the Virginia gene An SOS call Over.
This is the Virginia gene An SOS call Over. This
is the Virginia gene with an SS call over.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
And he plays a character known only as our Man.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
There's almost no dialogue in this movie.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I think there's like thirty two words, fifty two words
something like that in the whole entire movie. I am
obsessed with this movie. I absolutely love it. There I
read somewhere once that people die in the wilderness because
of lack of imagination.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
And this movie is about a guy who.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Is incredibly intelligent, incredibly prepared, Like he's not just wandering
out in the world, and he is on a sailboat
that is sinking and he has to work the problem,
and he's all by himself, and the cheat would be
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to have him like talk to himself, you know.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
And he does not do that.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
You are just watching Robert Redford, who I think conveys
you know, everybody talks about how gorgeous he was, and
of course he was, but he also conveys an incredible intelligence,
and this movie is him. You're watching him think, and
you're watching him methodically work the problem.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Andrew, you're nodding and smiling a lot.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
What's what's your take on this one?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I only watched this movie maybe two years ago. I
stumbled on it by accident, not even looking for Robert Redford.
The score is done by Alex Ebert, who's the front
man for Edward Sharp and the Magnetic Zeros, and I'm
a big fan of them, so when I heard he
did the score for this movie with almost no dialogue,
I was like, Oh, check it out, and then boom,
there's Robert Redford. So I'm so glad it's on the
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list because it really caught me off gard and it
blew me away. He's so engaging that it doesn't feel
like a gimmick that there's no dialogue. It feels very
natural and you can't look away.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So I'm gonna be honest, I have not seen this
one yet, and you know it kinda I think it
kind of had a quiet opening it when it first
came out, and I always thought, oh, that could be good.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
But after hearing Amber describe it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It, Amber, you're giving me a real Santiago old Man
of the Sea vibe. Yeah, you know, so, I'm i
and I love that. I love that book. So I'm
definitely gonna check this one out. Guys, A great pick, Andrew,
what do you have at number nine?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Number nine? We have sneakers and she's using you to
get to her.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
And she's using me to get to you. I know,
I know that's confusing. If you love him, if you
really love him, then just keep on loving him and
give him head whenever he wants.
Speaker 9 (06:37):
Give him help, be a be a beacon in a
sad and lonely life.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Can you do that for Gunner?
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Yes, I get out of here, give him a head,
be a beacon.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I know I mentioned it once already, but I absolutely
love this movie as a kid. The cast is stacked
with talent. It's got Sidney Pottier, Dan Aykroyd, Young River, Phoenix,
Ben Kingsley. But heading it up is Robert Redford, and
he is a somewhat reformed criminal leading a group of
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the same and so it's got some fun heist vibes.
It's really funny. It's just classic classic nineties humor carried
by just an unbelievable cast. I've seen this movie probably
about a thousand times. I could quote it so much.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
This has been on the film by list for a
couple of seasons, like a maybe we can get Sneakers
in this month, And I'm a big fan of Martin Marty.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Bishop, so I think we're gonna probably get to this one.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Judging and Amber, just just judging by her expression just now,
it sounds like you two will be the ones covered.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
That episode when we do it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But uh, Amber, obviously you're a fan of Sneakers.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You're a fan of Bishop and Sneakers.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Yes, yes, I'm slightly older than Andrew, so I was
just graduated high school and I remember going with a
group of friends to see it and just having a
great time. And I was working at Blockbuster Video at
the time, so I got like a cheap copy and
wore it out.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Fantastic film.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Now I think we're gonna we're gonna zag here on
the number eight pick, because I gotta be honest.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I was surprised.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I was pleasantly surprised Amber when you mentioned this one,
because now you're taking us into that that television realm,
specifically to nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Who's your pick here?
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Okay, So for those of you that were timing, what
are we like five minutes in? I'm getting choked up.
So this is a Twilight Zone episode. It is one
of my favorites from season three. It's episode sixteen, Nothing
in the Dark, and he plays a mysterious young man.
(09:16):
He's so young and so beautiful, and he shows up
at this old woman's apartment. And I don't want to
like reveal the twist, but it's cat. She is afraid
of dying, and she won't leave her apartment because she's
(09:36):
afraid if she goes out, she's going to die.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
She's going to meet death, and she will die.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
And the reveal is that he was death and he
was with her all along.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
And he holds his arms out and he says, look,
is this so bad?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You kick me?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
It was you all the time?
Speaker 8 (10:02):
Yes, I tricked you, But why.
Speaker 10 (10:08):
The moment I let you inside. You could have taken
me anytime, but you and nice You made me trust you,
But I.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
Had to make you understand. Am I really so bad?
Am I really so frightening?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
It's okay?
Speaker 6 (10:35):
And there was nothing in the dark that wasn't there
in the light all the time.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Maybe the most charming grim reaper of all time.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
This poor woman he.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Beats, He beats out Brad Pitt and meet Joe.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Black he does. Yeah, that's no easy feet.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But I think this has got to be one of
the most This is probably the earliest, maybe the first
time we've seen a study in agoraphobia showing up in
television or film. This old woman who has you know,
Rod Soling has explained to us, has cheated death thousands
of times, has now relegated herself to She's like in
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this crummy Rundown basement apartment. It's a the building's dilapidated.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yeah, they're going to tear it down, and they're about
to tear it down.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
She will not leave because she's that petrified of dying.
And the way I won't spoil it, Okay, I won't
spoil this part, but the way he gets in the
door is so clever, especially when the you know, the
next the next person comes knocking and uh, you know,
it's it's twilight and so it's meant to be creepy
and a little little scary, but the way he makes
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it okay to accept fate, it's it's it's it's actually amber.
This is a great pick because he's he's doing a
whole lot in what twenty two minutes short? Yeah, I
mean yeah, And I'll tell you if if you got
to go, you know, Robert Redford holding his hand out
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to you, that's not a bad way to go, honestly. Uh,
let's take a quick break and when we come back,
we'll talk a little bit about Robert Redford the director,
and we'll continue with our top ten. Welcome back, we
are talking about our top ten favorite Robert Redford film roles.
(12:33):
It's no doubt he's he was an incredible actor, but
let's not forget he.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Was an incredible director.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So I got to ask you guys, because I know
we've collectively, we've probably seen all of his the films
that he's directed.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Amber.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
If you had to suggest a title to someone, if
someone came up to you and said, oh, I didn't
know he directed movies, you know, did he do anything good?
What's the title that you're going to tell people to
go go out and watch.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
There are a handful of movies that I would define
as perfect, and this is one of them.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
A River Runs Throat.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I think it's absolutely It's beautifully shot, it has beautiful music, the.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Performances are amazing.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
It's just absolutely one of the most heartbreakingly beautiful movies.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And Andrew it it stars Brad Pitt, not as the
Grim Reaper.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
No, Brad Pet's basically playing Robert Redford.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
He's playing Robert Redford. Let's go, let's call it what
it is.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Brad Pitt's a young Robert Redford. They're both obnoxiously good
looking but amazing actors.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
To boo tho, Yeah, how about it? Andrew? What movie?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
What Robert Redford directed film? Would you recommend to people?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And as she said, he did so many, but for
me it was an obvious choice. It blew me away.
The first time I saw it as his nineteen ninety
four movie Quiz Show. It's it's tense and it's extremely
well shut it. It's kind of like it reminds me
of the Social Network in that on paper, the story
is really boring, and get somehow you manage to make
it really tense and thrilling and engaging. Fantastic movie, fantastic pacing.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
I just love it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, listen, I'll tell you both right now. There was
no wrong answer there, there was no bad suggestion there.
So but Quiz Show and River runs that they would
probably be at the top of my list. But back
to the list at hand, our top ten favorite roles.
I'm gonna jump in here real quick because I listen,
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you guys had some great choices. Fortunately for me, You
can't You kind of had a little bit of crossover
that gave me a chance to drop two in there.
So for number seven, I got to talk about Jeremiah
Johnson in Jeremiah Johnson.
Speaker 11 (14:59):
There's pa been trapped out since twenty five?
Speaker 12 (15:04):
What are you doing here? Then?
Speaker 11 (15:05):
I hunt Grizz Grizz Grizz or Bears Pilgrim, I Collect
the Claws.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I had one on that ticket back there ready to
shake hands?
Speaker 12 (15:16):
Would you come along?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I'm sorry that that you look hungry too, huh?
Speaker 10 (15:24):
Come on, you know how to.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Skin grizz I can skin most anything.
Speaker 12 (15:36):
Sure her or Cocky for a Starving.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Field Group nineteen seventy two, directed by Sidney Pollock. So
if you if you hadn't seen this one, if you
needed a reason, you don't need many. But you know
Pollock was an incredible director, and this is this is
certainly evidence of that. It's based on the story of
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real life trapper and mountain man John Johnston, who was
known as the Crow Killer.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
This is a nickname he earned.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Because it was after members of the Crow tribe murdered
his wife that Johnston swore vengeance on the entire tribe.
Redford is on the record as saying this is his
favorite among the films he started.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Have you guys, I have either of you seen this?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Because I know this is It's nineteen seventy two, so
I know we're going way back.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I'm embarrassed to say that I haven't. This is one
of those ones that's been on my list for years,
you know, I think it's it's an iconic film. Well
for him, I'm aware of it, but no, I've just
I've never seen it.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
How about an.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Amber, I've seen it, but it's been a really long time.
It's time for a revisit.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think what the irony here is that today's generation
probably uses a very specific gift from the movie.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Without even knowing that it is, in fact Robert Redford.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
You know, we're talking about the bearded man who just
looks to the side and gives you that knowing smile
like you're doing something right. So, hey, kids, every time
you share that, you're actually sharing Jeremiah Johnson.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
So keep keep that in mind.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And on a personal note, I was this close to
being named Jeremiah Johnson because of this film.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
My father campaigned h rather.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Rather vigorously with my mother that you know, because they
were there, they knew was it gonna be a J name.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
They just didn't know which.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And uh, he wanted Jeremiah Johnson and unfortunately she did not.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
So you know, I could have called you double J
either way.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I'm okay with right, It's it's all good.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yeah, my nickname would have stood, you know, uh, the
same regardless. But yeah, just a fantastic movie. And again,
you know, when you're talking Pollock, the cinematographer on this
movie's gorge just because we're out you know, it's the
American West, and it's it's incredible.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Well and again a lot of you know, long interrupted
scenes with no dialogue.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I would, and I would tell anyone, like, if
you haven't seen this movie, and maybe you're a big
fan of Dances.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
With Wolves, yeah, not a bad double feature.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You know, you know, And I don't want to spoil
the whole movie, but basically, Jeremiah Johnson, he's a mountain
you know. He decides to kind of go off live
in the mountains on his own, be a hermit. And
after a time he does, he does find himself a
nice woman to settle down with. And then there's a
a bit of controversy with the the the Crow Tribe
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Native Americans.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
So definitely one to watch.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
As for number six, I'm gonna tell you guys right now,
this is, without a doubt my all time favorite Robert
Rever performance. And I say that knowing that the Sting
is out there and Butcher Cassidy and Sundance Kids out there,
and you know, there's a lot of great performances out there,
but I'm telling you there's something about General Irwin in
(19:00):
The Last Castle, which came out in two thousand and one,
that is absolutely incredible.
Speaker 13 (19:08):
These salutes, I've given them some thought, and technically they
are not a violation of regulations. So if the inmates
can confine themselves to a simple hand movement through the hair,
I see no problem with it. And if the men
(19:32):
want to call you chief, well that's fine. Then free speech.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
And all that.
Speaker 14 (19:39):
Okay, then no, not okay, it's too late, colonel, it's
too late for one through your offer. The men don't
want a salute, they don't want to use rank, they
don't want better food, they don't want more TV.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
They just want your resignation. So do I.
Speaker 13 (20:00):
My resignation or disgrace?
Speaker 14 (20:01):
Colonel, a disgrace to the uniform? You should not be
allowed to retain your command?
Speaker 13 (20:09):
Well, then I better go back.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
I think you should.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Tell me, mister Irwin, what's to stop me from just
placing you in the hole for say six months?
Speaker 8 (20:23):
Nothing, that's the way you want to win.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
This was shot on location at a former prison at Tennessee,
which coincidentally is the same prison that they used for
the Green Mile.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Your thoughts on this one. Aber. Have you seen The
Last Castle with Redford and James Gandolfini.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I have not. It sounds a lot like Brew Baker.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
He went in in that one and cleaned up a prison,
but that's probably more brutal.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Than now Brew Baker man and against a cruel system,
you know.
Speaker 15 (21:01):
This.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So General Irwin is uh, he's court martialed for insubordination
and he's sent to this military prison where the commandant
is played by James Gandolfini, who has a real chip
on his shoulder, you know, because he wants to be
that that military leader that has you know, military experience,
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and he's regulated to you know, running this prison. And
of course, uh, General Erwin is a very famous figure.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
In popular culture. Everyone knows him. He's written books, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
He's kind of like a Storm and Norman type for
those of you that remember Desert Storm.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
But it's just it's an incredible cast.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
James Gandolfini, Robert Redford, you got uh, Mark Ruffalo, who
I know in the past I've said I'm not a
big fan of Ruffalo. There's a handful of movies where
I really like him. This is one of those where
Ruffalo is just on point in playing an incredible part.
Del worry Lindo is in this amber. I'm telling you,
(22:06):
you're gonna love this film, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Gonna love it.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Fascinating. So on the list it goes.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, Redford.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Redford carries it in my opinion. I mean, he's the
reason to watch it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think, oh gosh, he's he well Andrew, you know,
he's he conveys leadership without without.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Even trying, right. Yeah, and it's funny.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
One of my favorite stories about this movie is Redford
actually needed about fifteen to twenty takes to get his
salute right, which is ironic because the scene in question, Andrew,
you know which scene I'm about to talk about. The
scene in question is him teaching another prisoner how you
know what the history of saluting is and how how
to properly do it. So the fact that director's out
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there calling cut because he's having some troubles with it
is a little funny.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That is pretty good, especially the amount of times they
salute terribly movies. But like, that's the one scene you
really can't that's the one important it right this time.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, and it's it's interesting too.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I won't spoil it for Amber, But just what he
has to say about the history of saluting really cool.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Let's talk about number.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Five, Andrew and uh, this is a genre that you're
no stranger to.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, we've talked about it more than once, but that's
not the reason it's on here. So I want to
talk about him as Alexander Pierce in Captain America and
the Winter Soldier.
Speaker 12 (23:26):
For immediate hearing.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Don't need hearings, we need action.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Is this Council's duty to overseas shield.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Breeds like this raises a serious question.
Speaker 15 (23:33):
Like how the hell did a French pirate manage the
hijack of covert shield vessel in broad daylight?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
With the record councilman, he's Algerian.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
I can draw a map of it. Help.
Speaker 15 (23:44):
I appreciate your wit, Secretary Pierce, but this Council takes
things like international piracy fairly seriously.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Really, I don't.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
I don't care about one vote. I care about the fleet.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
This is going to fall to ranker every time someone pushes.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Us on the playing field. Maybe we need someone to
oversee us, Secretary.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
The reason this one went on my list isn't just
my love for Captain America. It's he was such a
brilliant choice to cast as a villain or an antagonist,
partially in the MCU in general because you know, as
we said, he's so charming. His leadership that he just
his gravitasity carries makes him such a great hero that
(24:31):
it was a really interesting turn. And the moment that
you like realize now that he's the villain in the movie,
I think was spoiled by the marketing.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Unfortunately, sadly.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, but it's such a great turn, and from a
casting standpoint, what I love about it is if the
MCU had started twenty thirty years earlier, he would have
been Captain America. He's like, oh gosh, the perfect choice
to be Captain America. So to cast him as, you know,
a hydro operative and to have him be so charming
and so likable that even as as you know, he
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is straight up controlling, ruling the world evil, you still
kind of like him a little bit. He's still kind
of charming. Like his relationship with Samuel L. Jackson's fury
is it's it's it's cool, like it's nice. You know,
even when he's bullshitting you, you kind of fall for it
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Uh, Peggy Carter.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I mean, uh, amber lewis this this one?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
This one was on your list as well.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Uh, tell tell me about your your thoughts on his performance.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Well, this actually when I heard that he had died,
this was the first movie that I thought of It
made that much of an impact. It's this movie is
one of my, if not the favorite MCU film, and uh,
you know what he brings to it. It sort of
(25:49):
elevates the story and changes what the MCU was doing
from just superhero villain to like a seventies conspiracy thriller
kind of thing. And it's just absolutely awesome to watch.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
The problem with his villain is that it's really difficult
to dislike him because he's so damn charismatic. You know,
he's he's Robbert, He's like Michael B.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Jordan and Black Panther, Like.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, he's not rock And I know he's a bag,
I know.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
A good point.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, And he was able to do it without any
physical threat, Like there's no fight. You know, he doesn't
have to punch Captain America. He's he's an amazing villain
just by being charming.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
He doesn't have to twirl a mustache or you.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Know, if he did. He'd pull it off though, because
he's he would.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
He would, he would, he absolutely would. Guys, Let's take
another quick break and when we get back, we'll keep uh,
we'll keep going on with the top the top ten.
All right, guys, back to the top ten.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Amber.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I believe we have arrived at the number four pick.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yes, this is the one swooning romance entry that I
had to make from nineteen eighty five out of Africa.
He plays Dennis finch Hatton and he's as untamed as
early nineteen hundreds Africa itself, and every single man should
(27:26):
have to watch the scene where he washes Meryl Streep's hair, laughed.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Loud and long, and all the while his eyes went
to and fro. Haha, quoth he full plane. I see
the devil knows how to roll.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
Farewell farewell.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Yes, where I leave out the doll parts, farewell farewell.
But this I tell to thee our wedding guest, lay
your head back, prayeth well, loveth well, both man and
bird and beast.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
It should be required viewing for.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
All of you.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna argue this pick. It's
it's an incredible performance.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
It's another one I haven't seen.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
I know.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I'm sorry. It's killing me.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Andrew.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It did, It did win the Academy Awards for Best
Directing and Best Score. It's a it's an amazing John
Barry score h nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
You listen when I when it came out. When I
was a kid, I was like, no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
But as an adult, it's it is. It is peak
Redford and uh, Amber's right.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
You know this that. I mean him and Him and
Street together, they they're cooking.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yeah, they really swimmingly romantic. Your wife will thank you.
Your wife will thank me for telling you.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I'll make sure to let her know you said so.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I say, don't show the movie.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Just just wash your hair, just steal his move, and
you know, just take take all the glory. Uh, Andrew,
let's uh, let's get back to something a little less romantic.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Unless we're talking romantic. What do you have for number three?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's that's the perfect word for it. We got Butch
Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid.
Speaker 12 (29:37):
No real chump.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Like hell, we will no, It'll be okay. It's lors
deep enough. We don't get squished to death.
Speaker 12 (29:47):
He'll never follow how do you know would you make
a jump like that?
Speaker 8 (29:50):
You didn't have to.
Speaker 15 (29:51):
I have to, and I'm not gonna what we got
to otherwise we're dead.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
They're just gonna have to go back down the same
way they come. Come on, just one clear shot.
Speaker 12 (29:59):
That's all I want. We got to get away from me.
I want to fight him.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
He'll kill us.
Speaker 12 (30:05):
Maybe you want to die?
Speaker 15 (30:06):
Do you.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
All right?
Speaker 8 (30:11):
I'll jump first? Nope? Then you jump first?
Speaker 12 (30:14):
Oh, I said, what's the matter with you? I can't swim?
Why are you crazy? The fall will probably kill you.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Paul Newman and Redford at their most charming, they're most handsome,
and it's the most iconic duo. I love this movie.
I think so many movies tried to capture this energy.
This you know this buddy cop Outlaw five. I don't
think anybody's done it as successfully. The ending is top
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five endings of all time as far as I'm concerned. Yes,
I mean just a the freeze frame of them, you know,
running out is it's iconic. I love this movie. It's
it feels good, it's funny, it's got action, it's got
it's got everything. It's just you just want to be
these guys.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Ember it's this one comes out in nineteen sixty nine.
But as far as westerns go, it it holds up.
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Oh my goodness, yes, And there chemistry and banter is
just absolutely sparkles.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
She says, it sparkles.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
I like that, Jeff, you and you and I have
jumped off of a JuffEd off of a cliff into
water in the desert. I gotta tell you, the first
time we did that, all I could picture was, you know,
them running jumping off that cliff together. That that helped
get me over that hump.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It absolutely helped me when when someone says, yeah, you
got to jump, it's it's only forty feet down. I
just thought, okay, I'm I'm Butcher Andrew, Hey, Sundance, let's
let's do this. It does take the edge off when
you're when you're doing something like that.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
But yeah, this one's a classic.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
It's an all time great, all time great for the
Western genre.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Now let's go to number two because.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
If you if you like him, uh you know, in
the Buddy roll. But now you want to take a
little more seriously, Amber the.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Best journalism movie in the history of journalism movies all
the presidents men.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Where are you stuck? The story is stalled on this
and you thought i'd help. I'll ever quote.
Speaker 14 (32:53):
I wouldn't quote you, even as an anonymous source.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
I mean you'd be on deep background.
Speaker 9 (32:58):
You can trust me, you know that. Can you tell
me what you know?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
You tell me what you know?
Speaker 14 (33:06):
The story is dry.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
All we've got here or pieces. We can't seem to
figure out what the puzzle is supposed to look like.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Forget the myths that the media is created about the
White House.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
You tell me what you know and I'll confirm. I'll
keep you in the right direction if I can. But
that's all.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
We covered this one on our limited nineteen seventy six series.
You're right, Ambert, what it's if you're watching a journalism movie,
which I'd love to do like a Top five Journalist
Movies episode at some point in the future. But this
one is the number one pick.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Right, Yes, yes, absolutely, I am. I'm obsessed with journalism movies.
I love it, and this one is it just captures
like the excitement and the tedium of you know, building
the story brick by brick, and you know there's one scene,
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there's one long, uninterrupted five minute scene of him on
the phone and Robert Redford on the phone, like your
body's clenched, you're holding your breath, like to see what's
going to happen.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
And it's a one sided conversation.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
I mean, it's just absolutely him trying to pull this
information out of this guy is just awesome.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
It's unimaginable charisma, Like he could sit on screen for
five minutes just talking, like you said, and you can't
look away, and not many people can.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I think one of the things that he does really
well here and he teaches this in other films that
he's done with other actors. This is just as much
Dustin Hoffman's movie as it is his.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
But he never he never outshadows his co star. He shares.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I feel like he shares the screen very generously with
any co star, you guys, is am I right?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Or oh? Absolutely? I mean he's He's a consummate professional
And that does remind me though. There was a really
funny story I wanted to share, and it's not a
movie that Redford was in, but it's a movie that
he thought he could do. So Charles Webb directed The
Graduate and when he was trying to cast all these
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different people. He's trying to find that the right person
for it. He knew Redford, and Redford was putting himself
up for the role. He's like, I should do it,
and and Webb said to him, you can't. You can't
play a loser. And He's like, what do you mean.
I'm I'm an actor. Of course I can play a loser.
And according to red Webb, he said, Okay, have you
ever struck out with a girl? And Redford's response was,
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what do you mean? And he was not doking. He
didn't understand the question. Yeah, and that is why he
did not get the role in The Graduate, but Arman
Dustin Hoffman did, and it was iconic in that as well.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I just I just wish I could be there when
Hoffman heard that story for the first time.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
That's definitely a shot to his ego.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I mean, you can't stand in Redford's presence and not
not get it a little bit, you know.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
No, no, you can't. Guys.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Let's let's take one more quick break and then we
will be back with an honorable mention and our pick
for number one in our top ten favorite Robert Redford performances.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Well, guys, we are here we have arrived.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It's no it's no secret how I feel about honorable
honorable mentions. But if it gives us a chance, if
it gives us a chance to talk just a little
bit longer about an amazing actor like Robert Redford, then
I guess I'm okay with it. So before we talk
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about our choice for number one, let's briefly offer a
few honorable mentions, because, truthfully, with eighty nine film roles
to his credit, our list is missing some very noteworthy roles.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
So Amber, you made the.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Phone call first on Tuesday, so I'm gonna I'm gonna
let you offer your honorable mention first.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
So it's like not one of his greatest movies, but
I love.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
This movie and I love him in it.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Tom Logan in Legal Eagles, Yeah, all right, it's this sweet,
little like lawyer thriller romance kind of eighties ridiculousness. But
there's a whole section right in the middle where he
and Deborah Winger are in They're each in their own apartment,
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and they're both have insomnia, and the ridiculous things that
they do to like just try to like wear themselves
out to go to sleep, and you know, he's like
tap dancing in the bathroom and it's just absurd, and
he's so charming and so funny, and I just adore
this movie.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Those of you that have been with us for a
little bit, you know, we had a very long running
limited series called nineteen eighty six. This movie Legal Eagles,
which came out nineteen eighty six, did not make our
initial run. But then when we brought back the eighty
six series on our Patreon, we promised to do twenty more,
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so that we did eighty six movies for nineteen eighty six.
Our very good friend Jason Colvin from the Surely You
Can't Be Serious podcast, he came over and talked Legal
Eagles with me. It's a very fun episode.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
All the more reason to check out our Patreon.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Go over there right now, get yourself signed up for
a free seven day trial, and pick leg Legals first,
because that was a fun one.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
It's a good time.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Andrew an honorable mention, sir.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I'm glad I got the opportunity to do this because
I really like this movie. I don't think it should
make a top ten list, but it's worth talking about.
It's a twenty eighteen film called The Old Man and
the Gun. He plays a career criminal named Forest Tucker.
It's a biographical movie about him, and he's just charming
and it's fun. And I really like Robert Redford as
he's aged into these roles. He really embraces the humor
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that can come with it and you know, uses his
gravitas in a much more subtle way. And so I
do definitely recommend it. It's sort of a crime comedy
type thing, but really really good, and he is just
delightful in it.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
You know, you're talking about a crime comedy. And I
guess it would be criminal for me not to use
my honorable mention to talk about Johnny Hooker in the
sting because again, an all time great Uh.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I won't, I won't. I won't even start talking because
we'd be here like another hour time. I love to sing, you.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Know, Andrew, if you uh, if you hadn't made the
phone call and I had, I had more picks than
this thing definitely would have made this top ten list.
But I'm gonna I'm gonna throw it in there now
as as an am wall mention, just to be just
be fair.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
It was wild to me it didn't make the top ten.
I didn't put it in my I I had to
cut it for mine, and I was like, it's okay,
somebody else will say it. I'm sure that's what let's
tell myself.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
It's it ain't about what what we think people want
to hear.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
It's about what are our favorites. So, you know, and
I'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
You know, there's been some movies mentioned here where I
have to believe that there's probably some listeners going.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
I've never heard of that movie, you know, I've never
heard I didn't.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
I don't remember him in that movie, you know, Old
Man of the Gun. That's that's a new one on me.
I didn't even know that existed.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
So and all is lost.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I gotta go see that for the non dialogue Robert
Refford movie apparently ever but uh yeah, so you gotta
you gotta share your favorites. And with that we have
arrived at the role we collectively feel as our favorite.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Go pick me out a winner, Andrew.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
This was number one the second I started thinking of
a list. I think it's probably true for all of us.
It's Roy Hobbes in the Natural. It is a beautiful,
beautiful movie. You know, we've talked about sports movies and
baseball movies plenty of times. In this tops the list
almost every time. It's this haunting, beautiful story, gothic feel.
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But it's just it's the love of baseball. It's the
second chance, it's the the effort and the beauty. And
Robert Redford just carries all of it with such subtlety.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
But you can't look away. No, it's I'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
The moment I heard about his passing on Tuesday, I
heard the score to the Natural in my head, and
I thought about the home run and the lights exploding it.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
I don't care. I'll argue it with anyone. The greatest
home run hit of all time.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
In any film, maybe one of the greatest moments of
all time in a sports film.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
I mean, I don't know what. I don't know. I
don't know what topsy, I really don't.
Speaker 6 (43:02):
I heard his voice in my head saying, when I
walk down the street, people say, there goes Roy Hobbes.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
The best there ever was Amber. I know you love
I know you love a good sports movie.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
God in a baseball movie too. Oh my god. Yeah,
I've seen this movie.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
I don't even know how many times I've seen this
movie and listened to the soundtrack, and.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
This is the baseball movie.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
Played baseball in the backyard with my brothers and you know, goodbye,
mister saul.
Speaker 12 (43:31):
Well.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
I mean, you know, playing little League?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
How many you know, how many times did you write
wonder Boy?
Speaker 15 (43:38):
You know?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
You know, I know I'm guilty of it multiple times.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
You know, whether it was that or the Savoy Special.
It's like you know that Lightning bowlt you had to
have it.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, and he's he's this really crazy balance of like
mature and wise but also so innocent in that movie.
It's it's iconic, but I can't even really point to
what makes it iconic because it's just it's so subtle
and it's just pure talent, it is it.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I mean, we know it's a it's a you know,
kind of like a historical film, like as far as
like this the moment in time that that's capturing.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
The sport of baseball.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
But I you know, I could watch it tomorrow, I
could watch it next next year, you know. And I
don't know about you guys, Like when every every time
we get to spring training, I start watching baseball movies.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
This one, this one's gotta be the first one though,
And I don't know why. It just does it just
does well.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
It It's like you said, you know, there was Roy Hobbs,
the best that it ever was. You know, I thought
about this movie yesterday when we heard the news, and
it's you can't be it's not a tragedy that we
lost Redford. You know, he lived an amazing life, he
had an amazing career, but the the mark that he left,
it's impossible to not you know, just just deep in
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your gut, you just kind of feel like this talent,
it was a once in a lifetime thing, you know.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Listeners, What do you think of our choices for Robert
Redford's top ten film roles? Did we mention all your favorites?
Did we omit any of your favorites? Please let us
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You can write to us at a Film by Podcast
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You might just read your response on the show and
send you some of film by swag My. Thanks to
both Amber Lewis and Andrew Blakeley for joining me for
this special, impromptu episode so that we could show our
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appreciation to Robert Redford and celebrate some of his memorable
film roles.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Very happy that you both reach you know, reached out
to me. You know, we're we're a you know, we're
like in a crunch mowe right now with our schedule
and the fact that you both wanted to do this,
I was like, well, we'll find time, We'll make time.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
So I thank you both for that.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yes, thank you, Yeah, thank you. I was so excited
to be able to talk about this
Speaker 2 (46:12):
And all of you listening to the show, following us
on social media, and subscribing to our Patreon, we certainly
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