Ep. 26 - Herschel And Kanye and Stewart: Oh My!

In this episode Jeff Charles discusses the ongoing controversies surrounding Georgia Senate candidate Herschel walker and the latest developments in that saga.

Next, he tackles the Kanye West "White Lives Matter" fiasco and why it has made everyone dumber. He also delves into declining black support for the Democrats.

Lastly, former comedian Jon Stewart rankled some feathers during an interview with Arkansas Attorney General Leslie Rutledge when he made some deceptive claims about the movement to trans children.

Episode Transcript

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This is the FCB Podcast Network.This is a Fresh Perspective with Jeff Charles.

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All right, y'all, welcome onback to a Fresh perspective with Jeff
Charles, with your favorite conservatorian me, Jeff Charles. Thank you guys so
much for listening. I'm going totalk about the whole herschel Walker fiasco.
And you know, before I gointo it, yeah, you already know
what what I'm gonna say. Ifyou haven't already subscribe to this podcast,

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anyway, I'm just gonna go rightinto this, and I have a feeling

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that this controversy isn't over yet.I know it's been you know, a
few days since it happened, andI actually recorded this earlier this week,
but then it turns out that theprogram that I use didn't record the audio,
so I wasted about twenty twenty fiveminutes talking to myself for no reason.
But that's all right. I madesure that it's recording me now,

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damn it. So just to youknow, just for the few people who
don't know what happened, maybe peoplewho don't follow this as much, I'll
give you a little synopsis. HerschelWalker, who was running for Senate in
Georgia, is being bombarded by issuesthat are coming from his past. And
this wasn't hard to see coming becauseif you know anything about herschel Walker,

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he has quite a troubled past.Now, much of it he has talked
about publicly already over the years,and he's talked about the changes that he
went through. But one of thereasons why a lot of conservatives, myself
included, had some misgivings about himbeing endorsed by Trump and winning the primaries,
is that we knew that stuff wasgoing to come up, even stuff

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that we didn't know about yet.And that is precisely what has happened over
this past year and a half orso. So what had happened was The
Daily Beast, which you know,is a far left activist media outlet.
They publish a report alleging that hepaid for an abortion for on one of

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his ex girlfriends, back in twothousand and nine, and they claimed to
have, you know, the receiptsthat she supposedly kept from from having the
procedure, and the check that hewrote her, and the get well card
that he sent her, and itbasically she came forward. She's still anonymous,
but apparently it came out later inthe week that she's actually the mother

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of one of his kids that hehad previously that he didn't talk about publicly.
The Daily Beasts reported on that aswell. The Daily Beast has a
real hard on for herschel Walker,and they have from the beginning for some
reason. But I can see whyhe is a threat. I mean,
he's basically in a statistical dead heatwith Senator Raphael Warnock even now after this

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whole scandal broke so again they're claimingthat he paid to have an abortion,
that he urged his ex girlfriend tohave an abortion. Now he denies this,
and he's even threatened legal action,but that's where the accusations stand now.
He may be telling the truth,he may not be. And I'm

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going to get to it later whereI talk about whether this will affect the
election or not. But basically,the Daily Beast is hoping that this will
destroy his chances of becoming Georgie's nextsenator. Now, the woman who came
forward said that she did so becauseshe couldn't stand the hypocrisy anymore, and

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that quote, we all deserve betterbecause herschel Walker has a very strong pro
life stance and he's been he's beenpreaching it from the rooftops ever since he
was running, and even before that, he's he is very pro life.
Now, as if this wasn't badenough, when this report came out last
Tuesday, it prompted herschel Walker's son, Christian Walker, to come out and

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give us a piece of his mind, so to speak. Now, Christian
Walker is a conservative social media influencer. He's a young guy, twenty two
years old. And as you'll hearme explain, and actually hear him explain,
because I'm going to play a coupleof clips, he wasn't really on
board with the idea of herschel Walkerrunning for office, and neither was his

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what was the rest of his familybecause they knew the stuff was going to
come up and they didn't want toget dragged into it, which is what
essentially ended up happening. So ChristianWalker went on a mini Twitter rant.
He posted like two or three tweetsand talked and basically said what I just
said about how people were begging himnot to run because they didn't want to
be exposed to all this. Theydidn't want attention from the media. They

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knew that he had stuff in hispast that he hadn't gone public with.
And then these revelations start coming up, and it looks like this one from
from The Daily Beast about the abortionwas the straw that broke the camel's back
for Christian Walker. He talked aboutwhat he and his mother went through when
Herschel was going through his issues andthe violence, the threats. He had

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talked about how they had to movesix times and that they were basically living
in terror. And you know,when I'm reading the tweets, I'm seeing
pain. Obviously. This is apainful childhood having a father like this who
was also out, you know,cheating, you know, up with other
other women, and you know,he was he was trash basically. And
I have no problem saying that becauseHerschel Walker said it too. He didn't

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use the same words, but he'stalked about how his shortcomings as a father,
as her husband, and even asa person, so you could imagine
how this affected his son. Now, I'm not a fan of Christian Walkers.
I don't dislike him personally, Idon't know him. I'm just not
really into you know, that stick, you know, with all the screaming

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and yelling and YadA, YadA YadA. I mean that's cool for some people.
But maybe I'm just, in thewords of Danny Glover, maybe I'm
just too old for this ish youknow. But again, he wrote what
he wrote. He said that therewas a lot of lying going on,
and that he hidden, that hewas tired of it and that and basically
that his father was being dishonest becausehe didn't talk about this publicly and he

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made it sound like he was allabout that pro life stuff. And I
can I understand the frustration. Buthere's the thing. Now, you know
what happened, right once he cameout like that, right, yeah,
that's right, right, the rightcame out to him hard. But they,
I mean they all this outrage wasthrown at Christian for going public with

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his opinions on his dad's past andhis decision to run for the Senate,
and of course you know, youknow, the usual conspiracy theories came up,
because we're on the right and welove our conspiracy theories. People are
pretending that he's being paid by theDemocrats or the media to speak out against
his dad, and people were talkingabout the timing. Oh, the timing

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is suspect. This is an Octobersurprise. But that doesn't really make much
sense considering the fact that it wasthe story that set him off. Now,
I fully believe that the Daily Beastsheld onto the story until October.
They didn't just discover this. I'dbe surprised if that were the case,
and I wouldn't believe them if theysaid it. They probably had this for

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a while and they were waiting forthe right time to drop it, which
was in October. So it makessense that's when Christian Wood get set up.
If what he's saying is true,and there's been all this lying all
along the way. Again, strawthat broke the camel's back. So people
were criticizing him for talking about itpublicly, and I understand that criticism because
I wouldn't have done that if itwere me. Maybe I'm a little bit

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more old school. He's a differentgeneration where everything is done on social media.
But I don't believe that, youknow, hashing out your issues on
social media is the best way togo. But after he started getting all
this vitriol from the right, andof course the left wants to pretend like
they're all understanding. Oh, wefeel so sorry for him, YadA YadA,

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yadah, blah blah blah. Hemakes a video, He makes a
couple of videos defending himself and puthimself and posted on Twitter. So I'm
gonna play that for you right now. I stayed silent as the atrocities committed
against my mom, we're downplayed.I stayed silent when it came out that
my father, Herschel, walk aroundall these random kids across the country,
none of whom he raised. Andyou know, my favorite issue to talk

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about is father absence. Surprised becauseit affected me. That's why I talked
about it all the time, becauseit affected me. Family values. People,
he has four kids, four differentwomen. Wasn't in the house raising
one of them. He was outhaving sex with other women. Do you
care about family values? I wassigned lie after lie after life. The
abortion car drops yesterday. It's literallyhis handwriting in the car, they say

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they have receipts. Whatever he getson Twitter, he lies about it.
Okay, I'm done done. Everythinghas been a lie. And so for
the right to say I'm being suspiciousfor saying, hey, I'm done with
the lives when you all have beencalling me saying is this true about your
dad? Gosh, we're not gonnawin Georgia, this candidate that's been you.
You have no idea what I've beenthrough in my life. You have

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no idea what me and my momhave survived. We could have ended this
on day one. We haven't.I haven't told any stories. I'm just
saying, don't lie, don't lieon my mom, don't lie on me,
don't lie on the lives stroyed,and act like you're some moral family
man. Y'all should care about that, Conservatives, and then for people on
the left to act as though I'mresponsible for all of the things that he

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has done. I've talked about father. I've talked all these because they've been
close to me, because they matterto me, because I went through it.
That's why I've talked about it.So when you say we'll talk about
your dad, I am I'm sayingthis behavior is atrocious. Don't come for
me. You don't have to likemy father. You don't have to like
me. You don't have to.I'm just saying I'm done with the lies,

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and just two more things I haveto address, and then I'm done
with this buffoonery nut job land.This is atrocious. People on the right
are pulling up that I did acampaign event with my dad last year,
and they're saying, well, yousupport it. Out of all last year
and all this year, you looksuspicious. You know, you all have
been calling me saying, why aren'tyou on the campaign trail with your dad?
Why aren't you helping him out?This looks weird. You should go

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help him. And I've said toyou, calmly, I'm not getting involved.
If you don't know my family life. I did one event last year
when we were told he was goingto get a head of his past and
hold him self accountable. None ofthat happened. Everything's been a lie.
So for me to tell you I'mnot getting involved, and then you also
be flooding my dams and calling mesaying I didn't know all this about your
dad. We're going to lose thecenturies. And then when I simply say

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I'm done with the lies. Yougo, well, Christian looks suspicious.
Excuse me. I haven't told onestory about what I experienced with him.
I'm just simply saying, don't lie. And then for certain political pundance to
be pulling up old pictures I postedof my dad, thinking they can police
and determine what my relationship with mydad was. If you want to pull
stuff up, I'll pull stuff up. Don't try me, don't test my

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authenticity. All of this has beena lie. And you've known him.
You've known so, don't you dare? And then to the left, who
says, all right, well,and I think there's a little bit more,
But I mean you get the generalidea, right, I mean again,
I mean it's hard for me toblame him again, I wouldn't have
done that. But at the sametime, if he's gone through all this

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trauma, which he has, thatthere's absolutely no way that you can deal
with what would deal with what hesays that he dealt with as a kid
and not be jacked up. Likeobviously there's still some healing that needs to
happen here. But to suggest thatthis is some type of conspiracy I'm sorry,
I'm not buying it. Show methe money, show me the evidence.
I'm pretty sure that Senator Chuck Schumerdidn't drop off a bag full of

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cash at Christian's house, and I'msure CNN didn't either. It's obvious what
happened here. It's common sense.I mean, he's been going through all
this stuff and he chose to airit out publicly. I don't think there
was any money involved in it atall, and there's no evidence of that.
And on top of that too,I was on a panel last week

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with Angela Stanton King on her channelCheck that out. By the way,
it was, it was a lotof fun, but we talked about this
issue among others. And you guysprobably know who Shamika Michelle is. She's
with The Blaze and she was alsopart of the hashtag walk away movement and
she's a friend of Christian Walker's andshe kind of gave us a little bit

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of insight. She didn't tell allhis business or anything like that, but
you know, she said that she'sknown that there has been issues going on.
They've talked about it, and Imean, so this isn't a surprise.
So to me, it's just absurd. I get criticizing him for going
public, but other people aren't.I mean, my friend Adam Coleman,
he's also right leaning. I don'tthink he calls himself a conservative, but

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the dude's obviously a right leaning Imean, come on, he's not a
liberal. But he was all forit. I mean, he had no
problem with it because he puts theblame on herschel Walker, and I agree
with that. You can't mess upyour kid and then expect not to have
any blowback on it. This isherschel Walker reaping what he has home.
When I look at these two men, I have way more sympathy for Christian
Walker than I do for herschel Walker, because I have no sympathy for herschel

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Walker. And you know what,I don't think he would want any again.
He hasn't. He has been forthcomingabout a lot of this stuff.
He's been honest about a lot ofit. I'm sure there's stuff he's holding
back. But again, people attackingChristian Walker for saying what he said and
not blaming herschel Walker, you cantell that they're looking at this through a

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political lens, because, yeah,I'm just gonna say it, you guys
know good in hell well that ifthe parties were reversed, if Herschel Walker
were a Democrat, you would allbe cheering for Christian Walker and talking about
how horrible Herschel is for messing uphis son. You know it. Now,
I'm not saying everybody. And now, if you're listening to this and

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you're not that type, then I'mnot talking about you. If it doesn't
apply, let it fly. Butwe both know that that's what will be
happening. And then the left wouldbe attacking Christian Walker for airing dirty laundry
because people are looking at this througha political lens. They're not. They're
they're more focused on politics than theyare on humanity. I got sympathy for
what Christian Walker went through. Thatwasn't his fault, and if he chose

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to speak out about it, yeah, it's a small Yeah. Again,
I wouldn't have done it, Butthat's a small criticism. Most of my
criticism goes or was Herschel Walker.Now, now that I've gotten that part
out of the way, here's thequestion everybody wants to know. Is this
going to affect the election? Isthis going to affect Herschel Walker's chances of
becoming senator. Well, they rana poll that night that the article dropped,

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and it showed that Walker was aboutthree points behind Warnock, which is
basically where he's been over the pastfew weeks. There's still neck and neck.
There was another poll that came outthat I don't buy saying that you
know, herschel Walker is now thirtyeight points and Warnock's at fifty fifty percentage
points. That I don't buy itbecause they also put Stacy Kemp or up

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Stacy Kemp. They also put StacyAbrams only two points behind Kemp when he's
been leading her by six seven eightpoints for the past couple months or show.
I mean, come on, there'sno way she caught up. She's
not doing well. So I don'tbuy that poll. I'll wait for other
polling. But I don't think thatthis is going to affect him, right.
This doesn't mean he's going to win. This is still anybody's race.

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But the thing is is that allthe stuff is baked into the cake when
it comes to Herschel Walker. Wealready know that he was trash when he
was younger. We already know it'sbeen it's been in the news for years,
he is talking about it, hehas talked about it publicly. So
yeah, there are some new revelationscoming up. But it tracks right,
and I hate to even put itthis away, like that tracks okay,

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he paid for an abortion. Yeah, that that tracks with who he used
to be. But for leftists whoare pretending that this is some example of
hypocrisy, some people are just toodense to realize what they're saying. Others
know what they're doing, they're beingmanipulative. But let's say he did.
Let's say he did pay for theabortion, and let's say he even admitted
it. He came out and said, hey, yeah, I did that.
But that's not why I believe anymore. How many women are a part

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of the pro life movement who havehad abortions previously. See what happens is
sometimes people change their minds. Soit is very much possible that he could
have paid an abortion and then laterin life change his mind, not realizing
or realizing that he shouldn't have donethat. Many women have. I mean,
I've met women who have had abortionsin the past and then they change

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their minds later. Some of themare traumatized by it some you know,
come to the realization later. Butthis isn't some example of hypocrisy. It
would be hypocrisy if he were saying, who are pro life and then paying
for abortions at that point, yes, that's hypocrisy. But when you change
your view on something and it's differentfrom what you did in the past,
then that's different. I mean,if a guy who used to be strung

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out on drugs gets clean and thentries to warn kids about taking drugs,
should he not do that because hetook drugs in the past. No.
If anything, that's even more ofa reason why he should, because he
knows what it's like to go throughthat. It's common sense, guys,
this is I mean, it's aten year old configure this stuff out,
but I shouldn't even have to sayit. It's absolutely ridiculous. But again,

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this stuff is baked into the cake. Now, if he does lose,
a lot of it is going tobe because because of what is already
baked into the cake. If thisstory had never come out, I still
think his baggage would be one ofthe biggest reasons why he would lose.
But he has some other issues too. I mean, let's just be real,
guys. He's not very articulate.He doesn't seem to have a very
good grasp of the issues. Theonly reason to vote for him is because

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you know that he's going to votethe way you want him to vote,
which I think a lot of peopleare still going to do. They'll hold
they will hold their nose and votefor him because one, I do think
that he actually went through a change. I don't think he's the exact same
person that he was when he wasyounger, and I'm going to judge him
on who he is now. Butalso again, we already know a Warnock

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stands herschel Walker may have paid forone abortion, Warnock is trying to get
the federal government to pay for thousandsupon thousands upon thousands of dead babies,
a disproportionate percentage of them black.So yeah, this isn't going to hurt
herschel Walker. But again, thisis still anybody's race. They're still in
a statistical dead heat. So it'sgoing to be very interesting to see how
this turns out. And I'll bepaying attention to pulling coming up this week

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to see you what's going on.But I'll give an update on this if
anything crazy happens, but I'll justleave it there for right now. I'll
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next segment. Here on a FreshPerspective with Jeff Charles. I want to
thank you again for listening, becauseI love everybody who listening. I have
the best followers. I always boastabout that on Twitter. I've got the
best listeners too, and the bestviewers. I've got the best to everybody,
let's just put it that way.But I want to talk about some
black stuff, all right. Iwant to talk about the Democrats problems that

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they're having with minorities right now.But before I do that, I'm going
to get to the elephant in theroom, and I don't. I'm not
going to spend a lot of timeon Kanye West. I'm not going to
spend a lot of time on onYeasy because I'm already sick. I was
tired of the story five minutes aftera broke because I just knew where it
was going, and I guess I'lljust free will it a bit, you

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know. And I've discussed it onsome other channels too. I was part
of a Black Conservative summit on HotepJesus's channel, which you should check out
because it was a great conversation.It was me, Jason Whitlock, Hotep,
Jesus Uncle Hotep, and my sisterfrom another mister who I love dearly
Sonny Johnson, and we had aconversation. Actually, just to give you

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an idea, The first topic waswhat does it mean to be a comb?
So you got to check that out. That was some comedy goal right
there, and it got a littlebit spicy at some moments too, but
but it was overall a very productiveconversation and we'll be doing that again.
But I digress. Kanye West,White lives matter. Good God. You

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know, here's the thing, here'smy take on this. I thought it
was dumb. I mean, youknow me, and you know I think
this kind of stuff is stupid.You know, I think it's foolish.
Kanye West was not making some profoundpolitical statement. He was trying to get
attention. Anybody who knows anything aboutKanye West knows that he does this.
He says stuff to get attention.He likes to be controversial. Remember when

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he wore that Confederate flag patch supposedlytrying to take it back or some crap
like that. He does stuff likethis. I ain't even mad at him
about it. I ain't even metLike if this is going to help you
sell some clothes or some records orwhatever you're trying to do, so if
I'll talk about the right first.Guys, we got to stop being so

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thirsty, like just because somebody sayssomething that we agree with doesn't mean and
we need to fall in love withthem. Now, I'm not saying that
we don't engage with them, thatwe don't celebrate it. Yeah, we
can give people a pat on theback when they're saying stuff that we like,
I mean, there's nothing wrong withthat. There's something wrong with that
at all. That's just I mean, especially in politics, that's that's the
way it works. But when westart acting like Kanye West is some oh

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my gosh, some type of deepgrew profit type figure, it gets a
little goofy. And not everybody's doingit, but some are. So I
just thought i'd bring it up.And I'm not saying that Kanye West is
dumb. He is a very intelligentman, and he's a marketing genius,
musical genius. So I'm not tryingto demean his intellect or anything like that.
I saw parts of his article sayshe doesn't read, so he doesn't

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write articles. But as I sawa part of this interview with Tucker Carlson,
and I was feeling a lot ofit. I mean, I haven't
watched the whole thing yet, buthe was talking about, you know,
how black people need to practice groupeconomics. He was talking, he was
quoting doctor Claude Anderson, he wastalking about the impact of abortion on the
black community. Like he you know, like I said, he's not a

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dumb person. He is intelligent.He's I think he's just more eccentric and
he doesn't organize his thoughts the wayother people do. And that's fine because
he does drop some bombs in somegood bombs. But this white lives matter
thing was stupid. But I don'tblame him for the for the over the
top reaction. I blame the peoplewho reacted to it. And yes,
he posed for that picture with CandisOwens, who you know, she's got

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a documentary coming out, and youknow she's always tried to glom onto Kanye
West to get a clout. Andthat's all I'll say about that part of
it. But you know, fromthe right, I mean, they were
glomming onto this whole white lives matterthing, you know, acting like somehow
white lives don't matter, so itneeded to be said. I mean,
even Kanye West said that it's obviousthat white lives matter. I don't think

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that a lot of white conservatives understoodwhat he was saying when he said that.
I think he might have been trollinga bit, whether accidentally or intentionally.
But yeah, white lives do matter, and that's that's fine to express
that sentiment. But to me,he made it sound like it was a
repudiation of black Lives Matter, likeI think he posted on Instagram the next
day BLM is a scam and nowit's over. You're welcome, as if

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he somehow ended the scam. No, here's the thing that White Lives Matter
was a distraction. It distracted fromany kind of productive conversation that we could
have been having. I would havehad more respect from him if he were
a shirt that said BLM is ascam, because that would have at least
brought up a productive conversation that peoplecould have because not a lot of people
know that the Global Organism Foundation isa scam and has been a scam from

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the get go. It could havegone all the way back to Darren Seals.
We could have been having that deepconversation, but instead we get White
Lives Matter with the picture of thePope on the front of the shirt,
Like, what the hell like?See this? See this is why I
don't like stuff like this. It'sdumb. And people you know who have
more of a shallow or supervisificial approachto politics, they love the stuff because
it's entertainment and they think that they'reowning the lives. They're not. They're

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owning themselves. But other than thatfine, because the way the right responded
was nowhere near as crazy as whatthe left is. I mean, these
people were acting like, by puttingwhite Lives Matter on a shirt, he's
legitimizing actual white supremacists like David Dukeand Richard Spencer, and that. You

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know, there's this really dumbass articlethat this guy wrote for MSNBC for Joy
Reid's blog posts or her blog.This guy that writes for it, John
Jones. I'm probably butcher butchering hisname, my bad, but it was
like one of the dumbest articles I'veever written. And my thing is if
he had kind of talked about howridiculous it was as a marketing employer,

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how maybe Kanye West should be moreresponsible with his platform because he's very popular,
he's got a lot of followers.I could have been like, Okay,
I may not have agreed with it. I probably wouldn't have, but
at least he's having a sensible,rational, well thought out argument. No,
this guy went full hysterical. Thisguy actually said it would embolden the
type of violent white supremacists that we'veseen over the past two years, which

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there have been some, but notas many as they want us to think.
He went on to say that KanyeWest doesn't care about black people,
that he's anti black, that he'snot pro black, gave some really stupid
examples. I'm not going to gettoo far into what. I wrote an
article about it for Red States,so check that out. And these people
even got a mod Arbury's mom tochime in on the situation, Like that's

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how low these people went. Herattorney, Lee Merit, will release a
statement, so he probably wrote it, and then she, I guess,
just signed off on and said,Okay, yeah, whatever. To use
a mod Arbory mom to attack Kanye'sWest to pull on people's heart strings,
that's kind of disgusting. Guys,Like I mean, I get why you're
mad about it. I get whyyou're mad about it. Some of that

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I agree with most of it,I don't, but I get it.
But I was even on the TammingMax Show on Fox Soul last Friday,
and you would think that this guywent and donned a Nazi uniform and started
goose stepping down Fifth Avenue. Youwould think that he gave a public call
to violence against black people. Youwould think that he dressed up like Uncle

(27:34):
Ruckus and got up on a stageand set and saying, don't trust those
new you know what's over there.Those don't trust those new nd words over
there. We all know that song. Well, probably don't, but it's
a great song. No, No, I'm just kidding. It was just
it was sad because I mean,I'm not surprised that they did it,
because this is what they do.But it's like, you really think that

(27:56):
this is a bigger deal than itactually is. No, it's a stupid
marketing employe. It's not gonna emboldenwhite supremacists. A white supremacist isn't going
to see that picture on social mediaand be like, well it's all I
have to go out and kill mesome niggats, you know. I mean,
that's not going to happen. Yeah, that's that's that's not going to
happen. I'm just I'm god,Okay, I can't even talk about this
anymore. Okay, Okay, I'mdone with this. So the whole thing

(28:18):
was stupid and it brought out alot of stupid, and there's just a
lot of stupid. My IQ probablydropped about ten points over this past week
just from having to talk about this. Stuff. So I'm going to stop
because I need to get my IQback up from where it was before Kanye
West decided to put White Lives Matteron a shirt. Thanks yeay, I
appreciate it. But I also wantto talk about the democrats problem with minorities,

(28:45):
which I actually think is feeding intoa lot of this because for the
first time in a long time,Democrats are bleeding support among black and Latino
voters, not Latina X Latino,and obviously they're worried about this. And
and if this trend continues, whichI think it will, the Left is
going to be in a lot oftrouble politically over the long term. Now,

(29:06):
this, you know, is acaveat writing. You know what my
caveat is. This is assuming thatthe Republic, that the former Party of
Lincoln, is willing to get theirstuff together and make a sustained effort to
court minority voters in the years tocome. I'm very cautiously optimistic because I'm
seeing some good signs. But Latinovoters have shown a remarkable shift in their

(29:30):
voting patterns, which we've seen.We've seen a poll after poll showing that
more Hispanics are indicated that they willvote for a Republican candidate. Candidate in
the upcoming midterm elections, most stillsupport Democrats, but again, these things
take time. There was an NBCTelemundo poll that found that fifty four percent
of Latino respondents indicated that they wouldprefer that Democrats retain control of Congress.

(29:56):
Thirty three percent said that they wouldrather see Republicans retake the legislature. Now,
this is a twenty one point leadthat Democrats have among Latinos, but
this is but in October of twentytwenty, they had a twenty six point
lead during those elections. In twentyeighteen, they had a thirty four point
lead among Latinos over Republicans. Sothat lead is starting to shrink, and

(30:22):
it's not by any small numbers.We're not talking about one two percent.
These are significant changes, and theRepublican Party has been doing the work.
And like a lot of people thinkthis came out of nowhere, it really
didn't. They've been doing this fora while. So obviously Latinos that there
are concerns same as everybody else theeconomy. They're actually concerned about immigration to

(30:45):
crime, but Democrats are emphasizing abortionand healthcare which they do win on because
Latinos do favorite Democrats on abortion,healthcare and addressing the concerns of the Hispanic
community and protecting democracy or whatever thatmeans. That that's just how they worded
in the poll. But black votersare doing the same, And I wrote

(31:06):
a piece for Newsweek on this aswell, and again, majority of black
people are putting Democrats, but thosepercentages have declined. Now. On the
last episode, I believe, Italked about Stacey Arams and her losing support
among black voters. So there wasanother poll showing that seventy nine percent of

(31:26):
Black voters would chose Democrats of Democratcandidate for Congress in the upcoming elections.
Eighteen percent chose a Republican candidate orsaid that they would vote for the Republican
candidate in November. Now, again, that's a lot. I mean that
that. I mean that Black peopleare still overwhelmingly supporting Democrats. But here's

(31:47):
the thing. Democrats typically enjoy overninety percent of black votes. That's the
way it's been for decades, Soseventy nine percent doesn't look too good.
It doesn't look good at all.That's a huge decline, especially among black
men. But here's another statistic thatI saw. This was a Washington Post
ABC News poll, So we can'tsay that it's skewed towards the right.

(32:08):
If anything, it's skewed in favorof the left. When asked who they
would choose that the twenty twenty fourpresidential election were held today, seventy percent
indicated they would support President Joe Biden. Twenty three percent said they would choose
Donald Trump. To give you somecontext, Trump won twelve percent of the

(32:29):
black vote in twenty twenty, butif it were held today, he'd get
twenty three percent, almost double.Now, these numbers changed. I get
that, but the fact that theygot those results says something. And Democrats
are doing everything. It's almost likethey're doing everything they can to alien eight

(32:51):
black voters. I know they're notdoing it on purpose, but I mean,
come on, you guys may haveseen that music video that just came
out. This is just an exampleof out of touch they are with average
black folks Like this is this isthe kind of thing that black progressives like.
And I wish I would have gottenthe clip. I would have played
it, but um, actually,you know I'm gonna grab that. I'm

(33:12):
gonna grab that real quick. I'mabout in. I'm nothing, think that
one. It's folly season right Novacking, no love novaut In, I'll touch
NovaKing. I'm nothing right now.Vow no fucking out, Vow no bucking

(33:34):
out. Bauck In, I loveit not nowvau in. I'll touch novacking.
I'm no vau no fucking out,vow no buck Okay, I'm looking
for some action. Scott was headingthanks, and I absotiny is a hole
to be determining. He got manshow, He's downcing bro Dony Resling.

(33:54):
Vote this man turns for all thesingle ques. Want to hit this booty
gotta do yourself. Oh my god. Yeah. Like I said, this
would be funny if if they weren'treally doing this thinking that this is going
to get black people to vote.This is how little they think of us.

(34:15):
They won't run ads talking about policyor you know, stuff like that,
no no voting, no vucking Yeah, and that's with the v because
they wanted to avoid using the Fand it's so insulting, like this is
some of the most insulting crap I'veever seen. And then they wonder why

(34:36):
they're losing black support, Like thenormal average black dude is going to look
at that and be like, whatthe hell are you talking about? Like,
well, what is this? Thisisn't how you reach black voters.
This doesn't speak to the issues thatI care about. I'm paying more money
when I go to the grocery store. But you're gonna do a video that
says no vote, no bucking,Like, come on, And that's just
one of several examples. That's notthe only reason I know that. But

(34:59):
still the idea that making this typeof video is going to entice black people
to vote, there's a reason whythey're losing. Now on the other side,
Republicans better be taken advantage of this. And you know what I say,
the Republican Party rarely misses an opportunity, to miss an opportunity, but
hopefully they can that they're crafting amessaging strategy that will speak to what black

(35:22):
voters need at the local level,state and federal, not just at the
federal So because if they don't,what's going to happen is that Democrats are
going to figure out a way towin black people back. I mean,
there's going to be more black peoplewho vote Republican this year. But I
think most who don't support Democrats aregoing to sit it out. They're gonna

(35:44):
stay home, They're gonna say apox on both your houses. I don't
want nothing to do with any ofyou that will help Republicans. But Republicans
need to start winning black votes.And again, I've seen some positive signs.
I've seen that there's people within themovement and within the party who want
that to happen. So hopefully we'llsee some positive developments over the next few

(36:06):
years. But I'll leave it therefor right now. See you on the
other side. This is Darvy OKing penmorw co host of The Outlaws radio
show, and if you haven't heardour show before, check out this clip
JD Vance. One of the thingsI think we have to do on the
Republican side, because we've got thewhite working class and I think we've got
them solid, is start to attractyou know, the black and I guess

(36:28):
now the Latida working class into ourcoalition. Because I think we do that
and we serve those voters well,I mean we could we could become the
majority party in this country for ageneration if we actually see the opportunity.
And you know what I tell alot of my friends, you know,
we're a little older than I.I'm thirty seven years old. Bottle and
say, well, you know,we really want to get back to the
country club set in the Republican Party. And I say, look, at

(36:50):
the end of the day, like, we're going to be a stronger party
if we accept that the country clubset maybe is never coming back, but
we acquire some of those black andHispanic class voters into our coalition, Like,
let the country club set go,you know, let them use their
preferred pronouns and obsess about racial issuesand gender issues because they're all crazy.

(37:12):
And I think that this is somethingthat that actually unites a lot of working
class white and black folks is wejust want to live in a country where
we don't have to obsessively worry abouteverything that we say. Subscribe to The
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(37:42):
All right, we are back herein the final segment of a Fresh Perspective
with Jeff Charles. I want tothank you all again for listening. I
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(38:07):
you know, So help her brotherout. But I want to talk
about John Stewart, especially when itconcerns this movement to trans children. Now,
you know, this is an issuethat's close to my heart. I've
been, you know, been coveringthis for quite a while now, and

(38:28):
I've been covering it pretty frequently becauseof how serious this issue is, and
I'm covering it from different angles.I'm talking about what's happening in schools and
medical facilities, dealing with how themedia is trying to run cover for this
whole thing. And that's what bringsme to this topic right here. So
John Stewart had an interview with LeslieRittledge, who was the Attorney General for

(38:50):
Arkansas, and Arkansas passed a lawthat disallows quote unquote, gender affirming care
to minor children. Just to giveyou a quick overview, gender affirming care
is basically what medical professionals and counselorswill put an individual through to help them

(39:13):
transition to the opposite gender if they'redealing with gender dysphoria. It involves social
transitioning when you're choosing your pronouns andyou're dressing like the opposite sex. And
then from there it could involve medicaltransition, which involves the prescribing of puberty
blockers, which stop puberty and stopthe body from developing. So for kids,

(39:36):
this is one of the things thatthey will do. And the problem
is that that there are a lotof irreversible issues that come up with this.
But I'm actually working on putting ittogether in episode just on Gender Affirming
Care alone, so look out forthat coming up. I'm almost done with
it. And then, of coursethe last step is surgical treatments, which
can which you can or you canalready imagine what that involves. You know,

(40:00):
that can involve, you know,for girls, what they call top
surgery, which is just a nicerway of saying double hysterectomy. For boys,
it can be you know, thefamily jewels and all that, So
removing those surgically ostensibly to make theperson feel like they're transitioning to the opposite
sex. And this is supposed topromote mental health. And you'll see some

(40:23):
of the arguments that these people givebecause I'm going to play part of this
interview between John Stewart, and I'mgoing to show you just how dishonest he
is. And I'm not sure ifhe knows he's being dishonest or if he's
just being believing the lies that he'sbeen told. John Stewart is not a
stupid person, so if he wantedto, he could actually dig into this
stuff more and see if this isthe right thing to do. But he's

(40:45):
he's peddling the line, he's wholehog for the movement to trans children.
So I'm going to play the videohere and then i'll kind of, you
know, kind of explain where he'sI'll say he's going wrong, but he's
not going wrong, he's lying.So I mean, there's really no other
way to spend that. So getone second here and let's go why would

(41:12):
the state of Arkansas step in tooverride parents, physicians, psychiatrists, endocrinologists
who have developed guidelines. Why wouldyou override those guidelines? Well, I
think it's important that all of thosephysicians, all of those experts, for

(41:34):
every single one of them. There'san expert that says we don't need to
allow children to be able to takethose medications, that there are many incidences
where well, you know that's nottrue. You know it's not for everyone.
There's one, there's these are theestablished. Well, I don't know
that that's not true. I don'tknow that. Why would you pass a

(41:54):
law then? If you don't,if you don't know that that's true,
wouldn't No, John, that istrue. There are a lot of experts
who say that these treatments can bedangerous and even leaning left leaning activist media
outlets. Have you even acknowledged thatthere is not enough data to conclusively prove

(42:19):
that quote unquote gender affirming care ishealthy for minors. As a matter of
fact, two countries who have beendoing this for longer than we have,
because we just got on the wholetrans and kids trained a few years ago,
almost a decade ago. Sweden's beendoing it for about thirty forty years,

(42:39):
same with the United Kingdom. TheUnited Kingdom is backing off of this
because they conducted studies showing that thisdoes more harm than good. Sweden and
I always cite the study Sweden andSweden conducted of study again over thirty forty
years or so that found that childrenwho received gender affirming care where nineteen times

(42:59):
more likely to kill themselves when theybecame adults. So, yeah, this
isn't just a few medical professionals hereand there who are dissenting. You know,
this is the same stuff that theydid with COVID. Right. They
made it sound like only a fewhandful of doctors opposed the Democrat approved narrative
about vaccines and about the COVID nineteenvirus, when in fact there were many.

(43:24):
So he's making it sound like becausethe mainstream says that that giving children,
little children puberty blockers and even surgicaltreatments is proven to benefit their mental
health, when we don't have enoughdata that even shows that, as admitted
by people on John Stewart's side,and we have studies that show that it

(43:46):
doesn't done by people who have beendoing this stuff for far longer than we
have. But let's keep going.Why would you know it's not for everyone?
There's one, there's these are theestablished Well, I don't know that
that that's not true. I don'tknow that would Why would you pass a
law then? If you don't ifyou don't know that that's true, wouldn't

(44:06):
you. Well, I know thatthere are doctors and that we had plenty
of people come and testify before alegislature who said that, uh, you
know, we have ninety eight percentof the young people who have gender dysphoria
that they are able to move pastthat and once they had the help that
they need no longer suffer from genderdysphoria. Ninety eight percent without that medical

(44:30):
treatment. And that's an incredibly madeup figure. That's that doesn't comport with
any of the studies or documentation thatexists from these medical organizations. Okay,
So first off, John asked,why would you pass a law if you're
not sure what it does? Likehe's playing with words here and he's trying

(44:52):
to trip her up. Very dishonest, because here's the thing. If there
isn't enough data to show whether ornot it benefits, you're talking about lopping
off kids private parts. Damn right, you pass a law if you're not
sure that this is actually going tohelp, it might be a good idea
to wait and see, especially sinceas they get to in the next section,

(45:14):
she talks about how most kids whogo through gender dysphoria grow out of
it, and for others, whenyou have talk therapy and you use a
wait and see approach, most ofthem grow out of it. Now she
said ninety eight percent, I'm notsure what she's sighting there. I haven't
seen ninety eight percent. I've seenbetween eighty and ninety percent come out of
it naturally without having to use pubertyblockers or chopping their breasts off, like

(45:39):
come on again. It's a dishonestargument. It's a dishonest line of questioning.
And John Stewart knows it. Likethe thing, he is not dumb
enough to actually be saying the stuffand actually believing it. He might want
to believe it, but at thesame time he knows what he's trying to
do. And I'll say, maybe, I mean, Leslie rut isn't probably

(46:01):
wasn't prepared for this interview. Shedidn't realize that it was going to be
a gotcha now, you know,maybe they should have known it is,
John Stewart. But at the sametime, what she's saying is right.
But let's just keep going. Let'skeep going. Why would the state of
Arkansas step that's that doesn't comport withany of the studies or documentation that exists

(46:23):
from these medical organizations. What medicalassociation are you talking about of these doctors.
Well, we have all of thatin our legislative history, and we'll
be glad to provide that to you. I don't have the name of that
off the top of my head.I know it's something that you don't have
the name of the organization that offthe top of my head. Oh okay,

(46:43):
but yes, we have all ofthat sided in all of our briefs.
You're suggesting that protecting children means overridingthe recommendations of the American Medical Association,
the American Association of Pediatrics, theEndocrine Society. We don't have enough
at it. We don't have enoughto show that these drugs are affecting,
that these children are better off,and that we should encourrently, or it's

(47:07):
not enough for you. Let me, let me try. Like I said
previously, even the left wing mediasays that we don't have enough data.
So it's probably not a good ideato start putting little kids on drugs that
will prevent them from developing and possiblysterilizing them when you don't really know if

(47:29):
it's going to help or not.I mean, that's that's common sense.
And what one of the lies thatthese people will tell you is that if
you put them on puberty blockers andthey decide that they don't want to transition,
it's just reversible. You just takethem off and then they just develop
like normal. That's not always thecase in a lot of cases. It's
not. Maybe if they do itsoon enough, yes, but if they're

(47:50):
taking them for a long time,it's going to have long term effects.
There's a movie called The Detransition Diaries. It's a documentary and I interviewed the
lady who the filmmaker who made it, and it's about It chronicles the stories
of three girls who were brought intothis transgender cult. And yes, I'm

(48:12):
separating this from people who actually areexperiencing gender dysphoria, because there is a
cultish aspect of it of people whomay not even have gender dysphoria but they're
being influenced into it. That doesexist and that does happen. And they
went on in two well I thinkall three of them went on puberty blockers.
One ended up having top surgery,double hysterectomy or a double missectomy.

(48:36):
Sorry, I shouldn't be listen,it's not funny, but I'm laughing I
myself from messing it up. Butthese girls voices they got off the puberty
blockers, but their voices were stilllower. It affected their voice box,
it affected other physical aspects of theirof their makeup. And this isn't something
that is just reversible. This isirreversible damage. So yeah, you might

(48:59):
want to be a little bit called, especially when there is research available showing
that this stuff does more harm thangood. So he's making it sound like
they're just asn't enough data for LeslieRutledge. That's dishonest. And again,
he knows what he's doing. JohnStewart has been doing this for decades.
He knows exactly what he's doing.And you know, as a journalist,
I can see the game he's playing. But I think regular people can see

(49:20):
it too. Let's keep going.Why would and obviously we all want to
protect encouragingly or it's not enough foryou, Let me let me try and
flip it a different way and seeif maybe this can help in Arkansas if
you have pediatric cancer. And obviouslywe all want to protect children. I

(49:42):
think we established that earlier. Whoseguidelines do you follow for pediatric cancer?
Well, I think if my child, who is four, if I was
faced with it terrible decision, thenI would be speaking to my doctor and
if my doctor recommended something that I'ddisagreed with, and I would get a
second opinion. And that's what Ibelieve that these parents need to make sure

(50:04):
that they're encouraged to get numerous opinionswhen they're talking about an irreversible step.
The state's not saying get another opinion. What they're saying is you can't.
What you're actually saying, that's actuallynot at all what states said. The
states simply said that you cannot performthese procedures, and so parents should get
another opinion, that they and childrenshould want to have another opinion. That's

(50:28):
not because again these are nine tenele If your child is suffering from pediatric
cancer and the state comes in andsays to you, they recommend chemotherapy,
but we're not going to let youdo that. You can't. We think
you should get a different opinion.And here's the organization, all right,
false equivalency. John Stewart is beingdishonest again. See here's the thing.

(50:52):
If a child gets cancer and theparents take them to the doctor, and
the pediatrician says, well, youknow what I think to treat your daughter's
cancer, we should take a pistoland shoot her in her thigh. Yeah,
that sounds crazy, I'm making thisup, but shoot her in the
thigh. The parents should just automaticallyjust just go along with that, because

(51:16):
you know, the doctor recommended it. And on top of that, it
shouldn't be illegal because it is againstthe law to shoot someone in the leg.
Right. So again, this ismore of a goofy example, but
it illustrates what I'm saying. Justbecause a pediatrician says that this is the
trite treatment, that doesn't automatically meanthat it is. Now with chemotherapy,

(51:38):
it's been established that chemotherapy can bean effective treatment against cancer. We've got
the data on that. We've gotdecades and decades and decades of data showing
that chemotherapy is helpful for people sufferingfrom cancer. So it's a yet another
dumbass argument. And what she answeredwas right. You get a second opinion.

(52:00):
If somebody says, hey, yourdaughter's dealing with gender dysphoria, let's
chop off her breasts. Yeah,you damn well, better get a second
opinion, right, Any sane personcan see this, by the way,
guys, any regular person can seethis. But the way progressives are pushing
this is by lying about it.Now in one instance, they're saying that

(52:23):
this doesn't really happen, or they'resaying these treatments aren't being given out all
that much. Now, when itcomes to surgical it is fairly rare,
although there's not a lot of dataon it to show exactly how much it's
happening. But when it comes topuberty blockers, definitely. Social transitioning,
Yes, gender affirming care is happening, and there's a huge increase in the

(52:44):
rates that is happening. And I'vetalked about that before. You check out
my interview I think it was withthe Jennifer law who created the de Transition
Diaries, and my interview with BrandonShowalter, a reporter for the Christian Post
who reports almost exclusively exclusively on thisstuff. But here's the thing this.

(53:05):
I brought this up and I playedthis clip just to show how weak their
arguments are, like they have toengage in a lot of duck and a
dodging and dishonesty that is the reasonwhy the two main tactics that they're using
to defend this, and it's thesame thing with critical race theory and other
stuff that's being taught, and youknow, the book banning stuff. There

(53:30):
are two ways that this movement totrans children will thrive, and that is
through keeping people ignorant, so convincingthem that it's not happening, or that
it's only happening a little bit,or that it's not happening in their state.
We're not teaching transgender ideology to kids. Well we know that's not true.
But and they don't use the strategyas much anymore because the cat's out

(53:52):
of the bag, but they're stilltrying. They're still trying to make it
sound like this stuff isn't being inculcatedinto school curriculum. But the other way
they try to defend this practice isto use fear. They thrive on cowardice
because everybody can see that the emperorhas no clothes here, right, I

(54:15):
think it's safe to say that.I mean, there are still a lot
of people who don't know that thisis happening, So that is the ignorance
that they're thriving off of. Butwhen they find out, I mean,
people who vote Democrat are against thestuff, the teaching of it in schools,
and especially the idea that school districtsshould be able to help a kid
transition to the opposite gender without informingthe parents and even lying to parents about

(54:39):
it. Like, you're not goingto get a lot of people to co
sign that, right, So whatthey do is their usual ways to terrify
people into not talking about it.You know, they'll label if if you
come out against us, you're goingto get labeled as a transphobe. Right,
it's the same place book, you'rea racist, if you agree with

(55:00):
disagree with the black person on theleft, you're a transphobe if you don't
think that you should be cutting offthe breasts of thirteen year old girls.
On top of that, they useemotional blackmail. Now they do this with
parents whose kids are suffering from genderdysphoria, but they also use it in

(55:21):
a larger sense. They want youto believe that if you don't allow these
children to get puberty blockers or andmaybe even surgical treatment, then they're going
to kill themselves. And by theway, they say the straight two parents
when talking about their children's gender dysphoria. There's another documentary I watch where mothers
just straight up said the doctor toldher because her daughter thought that she was

(55:46):
a boy, and the doctor toldher, you can either have a live
son or a dead daughter. Setthat right in front of her kid.
That's emotional blackmail. It's it's designedto use fear to put people into embracing
this and into supporting it because thisis a big money industry. I'll be
talking about that soon too when Ito do my Gender Affirming Care podcast.

(56:10):
But it's even deeper than that.Remember when the National school Board Association colluded
with the Justice Department to label parentsas domestic terrorists, the ones who were
showing up to school board meetings toprotest against the critical race theory and the
gender identity stuff that progressives were infusinginto schools. Well, looks like they

(56:36):
didn't learn their lesson from that,because the American Medical Association, which John
Stewart referenced earlier, along with someof the other organizations that he listed,
they wrote a letter earlier or lastweek to the Justice Department to Attorney General
Merritt Garland asking him to launch criminalinvestigations into journalists who have been exposing how

(56:58):
these medical facilities are pushing miners toundergo these questionable gender affirming care treatments and
performing top surgeries again double misectomies onyoung girls. So they want to launch
a criminal investigation into people, intothese people. And what's the excuse that
they use. Oh, well,these people are inciting violence, They are

(57:22):
inciting bomb threats by doing this reporting. Yeah, I mean that's how I
hear them, you know, whenthey when they talk. I know that
was more like a Marvin the Martiantype of voice, but that's how they
sound to me when they talk.Yeah. So basically they're pretending that people
like like Matt Walsh and others whoare exposing what these facilities are doing,

(57:44):
you know, lives of TikTok,they're trying to make it sound like they're
encouraging criminal activity or that they're tryingto incite violence. Now they know this
isn't true, but again, theobjective is to intimidate people into silence.
That's why they're trying to use theJustice Department against these journalists and these media
outlets. Now, as far asI know, Garland hasn't indicated whether he's

(58:06):
going to do it. He mayhave learned his lesson from last time,
but I wouldn't put it past theBiden administration. I mean, we've already
seen that they will use the FBIagainst people who oppose their politics. So
it wouldn't surprise me if some ofthese people started getting visits from the FBI
because they're exposing these nasty mutilation surgeriesthat these facilities are doing on kids.

(58:32):
So they're using fear and deception becausetheir arguments don't stand up. That's why
they do not stand up to scrutiny. So since they can't stand up to
scrutiny, they have to use fear, and they have no problem using the
government to enforce their belief system,their ideology, and the things that they

(59:00):
want to do to these children.So it's important that we recognize how desperate
they are to continue this. SoI'm going to leave it there for right
now. This is a serious Susie, but you know I'll be keeping an
eye on it again. I'll bereleasing that episode on gender affirming Care within
the next few weeks or so.Thank you so much for listening. If

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