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October 27, 2022 • 58 mins
In this episode, Jeff Charles recounts his trip to the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, TX and explains the atrocity committed by the U.S. government. there.

He also takes a look at voter turnout in Georgia and how it will likely place the Democrats' Jim Crow 2.0 narrative in jeopardy.

Lastly, he discusses the Democrats' strategy of emphasizing abortion rights over economic concerns in the leadup to the midterm elections.

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Now this is the FCB Podcast Network. This is a Fresh Perspective with Jeff

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Charles. All Right, y'all,welcome back to another episode of A Fresh
Perspective with Jeff Charles, where wechoose truth over narrative and principles over politics.
And I'm back at you this weekwith another fire episode. I'm going
to be talking about some pretty importantthings. And we're less than two weeks
away from the upcoming midterm congressional elections, so it's all about to be decided

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how things turn out. I'm gonnatalk a little bit about that, about
how both parties are approaching some ofthe issues heading in to the midterm elections.
I'm also gonna tell a story aboutsomething that I did did recently that
was very interesting and eye opening.Mostly even going to talk a little bit

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get into this First. I wantto talk about Waco, and for those
who aren't familiar, I'm going totalk about what happened almost thirty years ago
in Waco, Texas at the BranchDavidian Compound. Now, I last Thursday,

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and I didn't expect to do this, but one of my friends was
in town and she wanted to visitthe Branch Davidian Compound at Mount Carmel in
Waco. It's way out in arural area, and this is the site
of one of the most disgusting atrocitiesthat our federal government has committed in modern

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times. And I'm not exaggerating exaggeratingwhen I say that, Again, some
of you might already know about it. I think you've probably you've probably at
least heard about it, even ifyou don't know all the detail. So
I'm going to kind of go overwhat happened there. Now, I'm going
to be leaving a lot out becausethere's just a lot to the story.
There's just way too much for meto fit it all into one one segment.
But maybe I'll do some more talkingabout it later on. But I

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went to this site just because ofthe historical significance of this event. So
it's started with a religious sect ora cult. I believe it was a
cult called the Branch Davidians. NowBranch Davidians is an offshoot of Seventh Day

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Adventism, now the Branch, Andnow I should actually correct something I said.
The Branch Davidian sect isn't necessarily acult in and of itself, but
what happened is that it was basicallybastardized by a man named Vernon Howell who
later changed his name to David Koresh. So he joined the Branch Davidian sect,

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started preaching weird stuff. He sawhimself as a prophet and that's how
he positioned himself, and he wasvery charismatic, so he was able to
convince a lot of people to followhim, and then he kind of broke
off with his own version of BranchDavidianism. So it was basically something separate
from the actual original Branch Davidian sectof Seventh Day Adventism, and his part

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of it is what I considered tobe a cult. And long story short,
they set up in the eighties.They set up a compound in Waco,
Texas. The commune had about oneto two hundred people, and he
would recruit people from all over thecountry. And I'll get into that a
little bit later, but I kindof just wanted to set the scene there
so they have this commune in Waco, Texas, and he was the leader

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of the cult. The men werenot allowed to have sexual relations with their
wives. As a matter of fact, they had to give their wives two
koresh and he was the only oneallowed to be active sexually. And because
not only did he consider himself tobe a prophet, later he started claiming
to be the Messiah and that hehad to have all these children to carry

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on his legacy. But that's youknow, when when it comes to cult
leaders, that's what a lot ofthem do. Right, we already know
this. So this compound of thissect, the Branch Davidians, had been
living in this compound for quite awhile and they were very much about the
Second Amendment. They had a wholestockpile of firearms. They had a lot

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of illegal firearms, so this meansfully automatic rifles. They also had pistols
semi automatics. When all in saidwas done, they had about they had
two over two hundred firearms in thatcompound. And this got him on the
radar of the Bureau of Alcohol,Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives also known as

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the ATF. Now the ATF hadbeen going through some very bad press just
a year before the incident at RubyRidge happened. I'm not going to go
too much into that, but itwas an issue. It was a situation
where they were trying to capture thisman and his family. His name was
Randy Weaver, and they ended upkilling his fourteen year old son and his

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wife. And again they got alot of bad press because of that,
and it is believed that they sawthis situation with the Branch Davidians as a
way to redeem themselves in the eyesof the government and of the public,
because there was talk of dissolving theATF, which I would be perfectly fine
with that, especially based on thethings that they've done. So on February

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twenty eighth, they decide that theywant to go after David Koresh and his
followers for owning illegal weapons. Nowthere are also reports of child abuse,
and I'll get to that in asecond too, But on February twenty eighth,
nineteen ninety three, the ATF startedthe process of what is now known
as one of the most egregious actsof tyranny the government has committed in modern

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history. And then it wouldn't belong before the FBI actually joined in on
this atrocity. So in order tocapture David Koresh, they surrounded the building.
This is just the ATF so far. The FBI isn't involved yet,
and it devolves into a full onfirefight. As a matter of fact,

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it is the longest fire fight doneby law enforcement in American history. It
was a full on blood bath.Now, the ATF claims that the Branch
Davidians fired the first shot. TheBranch Davidians claimed that the ATF fired the
first shot. We don't know forsure what happened. It could have been

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either because even though the government wasatrocious here, the Davidians weren't necessarily necessarily
one hundred percent innocent. But that'swhat happened, you know. The the
ATF agents tried to get into thecompound. They had ladders that they put
to get up into get up ontothe roof. They tried to go in,

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and they got shot, and theygot turned around, turned back to
go back out. This started inthe morning. By the evening time,
six Davidians were dead along with fourATF agents. So, like I said,
it was a blood bath. Imean, you know, especially considering
for this being a law enforcement action. Usually you don't see a gunfight like

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this that results in these many casualties, and there are plenty more who were
wounded. As a matter of fact, Koresh himself was shot, and before
the shooting began, he actually cameout to this group of ATF agents,
about one hundred of them, andsaid, hey, we've got women and
children in here. You don't needthe guns. Don't shoot. And mind

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you, this cult might have beenweird, but they showed no signs of
actually posing a threat to anybody inthe community. They were actually pretty involved
in the community. The Koresh andthe other members of the sect knew the
sheriff, and the sheriff wouldn't evenuse guns when he dealt with him.
He can just talk to David Koreshdirectly if there was an issue and they'd

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work it out. So they hadall these weapons, but these were clearly
for self defense. Now, Koreshhad some weird ideas of prophecy. He
would talk a lot of time aboutthe Seventh about the Seven Seals and how
Babylon was going to come down onhim a Babylon represented the government. This
ended up being a self fulfilling prophecy, because even though I'm focusing on the

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government, there are plenty of waysthat Koresh could have ended the standoff if
he wanted to, but he didn't. So after this first shootout on the
first day, February twenty eighth,nineteen ninety three, they had a ceasefire,
and then they laid siege to thecompound so nobody could go in,
nobody could go out. They hadthe whole place surrounded, and they spent

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this time trying to persuade Koresh tolet people out. Now, mind you,
there are children in this compound,lots of them. And this went
on and on. The This isat the point where the FBI gets involved,
and the negotiator working with the FBIis trying to work out a peaceful
solution. He's having to go againstthe authorities who want to go in again,

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and he's having to deal with Koresh, who was becoming even more and
more unhinged as this process goes onagain, Koresh believed that he was hearing
from God, and at several pointsduring the standoff, he would tell the
FBI negotiator, Hey, you knowwhat, I haven't heard from God yet,
So I'm not going to come out. Then he would say, Okay,
I'm going to come out in aweek. That's what God told me.

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Then that week would pass by andhe'd say, no, just kidding
God. God said to stay.Now. At some point he did release
a lot of the children who werein there, but not all of them,
but he did let a lot ofthe children out. Some of the
members of the sect were allowed toleave, who he wasn't necessarily imprisoning them

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there, but some of them leftand the rest stay because they actually believed
in this man. They actually believedthat he was the Messiah, that he
was there to save them. Sothis situation continues to progress. And again
I'm leaving a lot out and I'mgoing to recommend some documentaries that you can
watch at the end of the segment. But on the final day, President

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Bill Clinton, an attorney and thenAttorney General Janet Reno signed off on arrayed.
Basically, the FBI got sick ofit, and even though this negotiator
was trying to hold them back becausehe believed that eventually he could persuade Koresh
to come out, they said no. So the siege lasted for fifty one

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days. Almost two months, andon the fifty first day, that's when
stuff got wild. They brought intanks from the military. They they borrowed
tanks from the military. They're aboutthree or four of them, and they
started launching tear gas into the compoundfrom the tanks. Now they're not just

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launching these canisters from afar, they'redriving up and crashing into the building and
then letting the tear gas in there. The plan supposedly was he used his
tear gas to make them run out, to make them leave, because they
wouldn't be able to take the sicknessand all the stuff that that causes.
Also, they didn't make gas maskssmall enough for children, so they figured

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that the mothers would want to savetheir kids. Well, it didn't quite
go that way. After they launchedthis tear gas into the building, a
fire started. Now, the federalauthorities claimed that it was members of the
cult who started the fire. Theyclaimed to have seen them outside starting the

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fire. The surviving the few thatdid survive, said this didn't happen.
As a matter of fact, Atno point did they discuss committing mass suicide,
because that was another rationale that thegovernment used. They said well,
they might commit mass suicide like JimJones did, and they might kill the

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children, they might kill the women, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA,
But there was never any indication thatthat was going to happen. And
by the way, at some pointthey were able to listen in on the
compound because the Davidians asked for milkfor the children, and they sent the
milk in with some bugs on it, so they bugged them and so they
were able to us an end.There was no indication that these people were

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going to kill themselves. To thisday, the people that survived insist that
there was never a plan for masssuicide. That was not going to be
a thing, but they could havehappened. However, based on some of
the things that I've seen, Ithink the government started that fire, maybe
not on purpose, maybe on purpose. Actually there is evidence of both.

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But there is evidence that the canistersthat they use to launch into the I
mean sorry, that the tear gascanisters were combustible and that could have very
easily started the fire, and that'sfire spread quickly. It ran into a
propane tank that exploded. Now,some people think that part was done deliberately

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by the military. I'm not goingto get too much into that because I'm
probably already in trouble with the FEDS. But any way that a lot of
people do believe that. Either wayI do believe. I don't believe that
the Davidians set the fire. Idon't. There's just not enough evidence for
its just it would basically require meto just believe the word of the government,

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which I don't. I think it'sfar more likely that the government,
either intentionally or unintentionally set that fire. Unfortunately, most of them weren't able
to make it out. They weren'table to escape. There's evidence that some
tried. I mean, there arereports of gunfire within the building, and
a lot of the bodies did havebullet holes. Now, some people claim

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that this was the Davidians killing themselves, killing each other, either because some
wanted to leave or because they wanteda merciful death. Five of the children
were shot. Four of the childrenwere shot, I'm sorry, one of
them was stabbed, and these arethought to be mercy killings. But when
all instead was done, seventy sixDavidians, including twenty five children, died

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in that fire. Now, evenif the FBI didn't set that fire,
they still created a situation where somethinglike this could happen. There was absolutely
no reason for things to go thisfar, even if they did have illegal
weapons, which you probably know howI feel about that, right, I

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still believe in the Second Amendment,so I'm not even sure that they should
have been illegal. But when wewent in to the compound, you know,
we spoke with Alexa Pace, whowas the wife of Charles pace Pace.
He is the oldest living Branch Davidian, but he was not a part
of Krush's group. They had somemisues with him claiming that he was the
Messiah. We went into the churchand there was a museum there that had

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a lot of material material in it, and you can see some of those
the pictures that I took in thearticle that I wrote about this on Red
State. It showed some of theaftermath of the siege. And you know,
I'm here's one of my Here's issue. The way this was handled from

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start to finish was a cluster,you know what. Because the thing is,
if they want a Koresh, whichI believe they should have, because
Koresh was not a saint, Koreshwas sleeping with underage girls, he married
his first wife when she was fourteenyears old. Now that does fall into

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did fall into Texas's statute of limitationsas long as he had the consent of
the parents, which he did.But he married other wives, one of
which was eleven years old. Hewas having sex with these children. So
yeah, he deserved to go tojail. But here's my thing. If
this is what they suspected to himof doing, and again, I think
it's more the weapons that got theATF's attention than anything else, I guess,

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I mean, because that's sir perview, but you would think that the
FEDS would be investigating this too ifthere's child abuse going on. But here's
the thing. If they want toKoresh, they could have had him at
any time they wanted. They didn'tneed to do this whole raid. They
didn't need to do a siege.Koresh did not hold himself up in that
compound. He would go jogging outsideevery single morning. He would play gigs
in the town because he was amusician. He would be in town all

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the time. They could have pickedhim up, and they chose not to.
Instead, they waited until he wasback in the building and they pulled
off this whole thing, you know. And even on top of that,
when we talked to Alexa Pace,she told us that a lot of the
weapons that they had there weren't obtainedby Koresh. They were already there before.

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He had been in a power strugglewith this with a guy named George
Rodin, who was his rival,and they wanted control of the branch Davidians
after the original prophet died. Hername was Lois Roden, I think,
and Koresh was okay, So see, I'm leaving a lot of stuff out
here. You gotta read about thiswhole story. But anyway, the previous

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guy had stockpiled a lot of theseweapons, and the cult had a lot
of different businesses, so they wouldsell these guns. So Crush continued it.
But he didn't necessarily stockpile all theweapons. And according to missus Pace,
he actually contacted the authorities when hefirst took over and said, hey,
we got all these guns here,what do you want us to do?
The authorities said, oh, yougot to contact the feds. This

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is in our purview. Contacted theFeds. They didn't bother to go get
him, which lets me further suspectthat this was something that the ATF was
going to use to gain favor withthe public. I mean it was called
Operations Showtime. That's how they werereferred to this operation. And again they
had received a lot of bad press. And I do believe that this is

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the reason why they decided to usesuch a show of force, because they
could have done it without using ashow of force. And I think that
Bill Clinton signed off on it becausehe wanted to be seen as tough on
crime. Right, Democrats are alwaysaccused of being stopped on crime, and
a lot of times they deserve it. They definitely deserve it right now.
But he wanted to be seen assomebody who wouldn't tolerate crime. So I'll

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just to wrap up this segment.The reason I wanted to go and what
I really took away from it isa deeper understanding and appreciation for how far
our government will go. These peoplebasically waged war on American citizens. And
while Kresh was a piece of crap, pretty much the other people that were

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in that cult were people who Ibelieved were deceived. He gave them a
sense of purpose, a sense ofmeaning. But having weird religious beliefs does
not give the government the right toconduct this type of operation on you.
It is disgusting, but it's alsoa chilling reminder that our government agencies aren't

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necessarily on our side. When theyfeel like they want to weaponize themselves against
us, they will do it withoutany hesitation. We're living in a day
and age where the FBI is beingweaponized, you know. And if you're
listening to this and you're on theleft, you're probably not gonna buy this.
That's fine. I don't really care, but I would be mad about

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this if this were happening to aformer Democratic president. We see what they're
doing with Trump. They have targeted, targeted former President Donald Trump and his
associates, Mike Lindell, some otherpeople like fifty fifty of his friends and
allies are being targeted by the FBI. And I'm pretty sure that most of
those people didn't commit any rhymes oreven have a reason to give them due

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process to do this. They aresending a message, but it's not even
just about Trump. Look at howthey're handling the abortion issue. I believe
I covered this on the last episode. They are gung ho about arresting pro
life protesters showing up to their houseswith guns the FBI. But when it
comes to the people committing acts ofvandalism and fire bombings against pro life organizations,

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they've got nothing to say about it. They still have arrested nobody for
it. As of this recording,not one person has been arrested for that.
And we know that if they wantedto catch them, they could because
look at how they're rounding up allthe January six people using their cell phone
data. Didn't take them that long. The FBI has a ton of resources,
so we need to be mindful ofthis, and we need to make

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sure that we're electing people who willdiminish the power of the FBI and other
federal law enforcement agencies. And that'sa tough call because a lot of Republicans
don't really want to do it.They'll talk a big game, but when
it comes to action, they'll donothing. We need to be ready.
We need to understand the times inwhich we are living. These aren't the
normal, you know, I don'tknow if it was ever normal, but

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we need to be very aware ofwhat our government is capable of, because
when we realize that, then wewill be more adamant about getting people into
office who will at least try tostop this. But I'll leave it there
for right now, and I'll seeyou on the other side. These days,

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it seems like everybody's talking, butno one is actually listening to the
things they're saying. Critical thinking isn'tdead, but it's definitely low on oxygen.
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alright, welcome back, y'all tothe next segment. Here on a fresh
perspective, and I want to talkabout something fun. This is good,
This is gonna be good. Now. I'm just gonna go right into it.

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Now. Remember last year when Democratstook over control of the Legislature and
the White House, and you know, people on the right were still feeling
a certain type of way about thetwenty twenty presidential election, and red states
like Texas and Georgia and others passedlegislation designed to promote election election integrity,

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ostensibly to cut down on voter fraud. Now, remember how the Democrats reacted
to that. Right now, Regardlessof what you think of these laws,
which I mean a lot of themI thought were fine. I had some
issues with others, didn't think thatthey were really necessary. But what were
the Democrats saying. They're saying whatthey always saying. Anytime you even sneeze

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in the general direction of an electionlaw, they say, that's voter suppression.
Anytime any law whatsoever, anything whatsoever, it's voter suppression. All voting
law are voting suppression. As amatter of fact. The only thing that
isn't voter suppression. The only waywe would have no voter suppression is if

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we made it impossible for people tonot be able to vote. If anybody
has any type of difficulty whatsoever,it's voter suppression unless it happens in a
blue state, of course, right, I mean, because sometimes we have
some pickups, maybe some issues withthe computers or the software. Well,
to them, that's voted. Atleast to some people I've been talking to

(26:30):
on Twitter, that's voter suppression aslong as it happens in a red state.
But I digress. They claimed thatthese laws would disenfranchise black voters,
because you know, they always exploitus to make their point. If they
disagree with something, the best thingthey can do is bring out the blacks
and make it sound like we careabout them, and make it sound like

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whatever they don't like is somehow goingto disproportionately impact black people. Now,
mind you, they provided no evidenceof this. They usually don't. They'd
provided no evidence. They didn't eveneven provide any compelling arguments as to why
these laws would suppress black votes.Now we, I mean we you know
what voter suppression is. It's it'spreventing people from voting, or at least

(27:15):
trying to. And I'm going toget to that in a second. But
remember they called this Jim Crow twopoint zero, the president of these here
United States of America was one ofmany who got up and said, well,
these are this is just like JimCrow what happened back in the days
of Bull Connor. As a matterof fact, he compared anybody who supports

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these laws two people like Bull Connor. Although his best friends, you know,
Strom Thurman wasn't mentioned in that,or what was a strom Thurman who's
a KKK guy. I can't rememberthat that he gave the eulogy for,
but I digress. So they werescreaming like drunken Banshees about how these election

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integrity laws, which I admit weren'tperfect, would somehow prevent black people from
turning out, to the point towhere we would actually have to refer to
this as Jim Crow two point zero, because there's nothing like downplaying the experience
of the people who actually went throughJim Crow to score chee political points.

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But the early numbers are in inthe state of Georgia, and on its
first day of early voting in themidterm elections, the state had a near
record level turnout. So most peoplewould take this as a positive sign that
more Americans are becoming engaged in thepolitical process, But for others, namely

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the left, it's not such greatnews, right. And it's really interesting
because a lot of these people willprobably be voted for Democrats, but that
means that one of their narratives isgoing to be cast in doubt. Of
those voters that turned out early.Up until now, the twenty fourth of

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October, thirty five percent have beenblack. Black voter turnout is dramatically higher
than what it was in twenty eighteen, and it's almost as high as it
was in twenty twenty. And bythe way, that was a presidential election,
so more people tend to show upin midterms. They usually don't,

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So the fact that the numbers duringthese midterm elections are almost as high as
what they were in twenty twenty kindof says something, doesn't it. Now
If this trend continues, and ifafter all is said and done, if

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it turns out that more Black voterand more Latino voters, and more voters
voters, everybody voting is higher thanwhat it was in twenty eighteen, we
can pretty much say goodbye to thevoter suppression narrative because these numbers already pose

(30:17):
a very difficult problem for Democrats whosay that black people can't vote because of
these election integrity laws. Right now, you saw that they backed off of
the voter ID thing a while ago, right you know, a Representative James
Cleburne and South Carolina was trying topretend like he never said that voter ID
laws were racist when he is onrecord saying that many times. Right,

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So the question is, what arethey going to do if this narrative dies
or is or takes so much damagethat nobody really takes it seriously anymore.
Well, they're going to keep usingit. They're not going to say,
oh, are bad, maybe theseelection laws weren't opping black voters from voting.
No, they're gonna double down.They're gonna keep going with it.

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As a matter of fact, StacyAbrams, who was running for Georgia governor
and she's gonna lose, but she'srunning. But after these numbers came in,
she came out and brought forth thisnew narrative that, oh, it's
not because there wasn't voter suppression,it's because we overcame that voter suppression somehow.

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And that's what they're and she's alreadypriming people to believe that. So
here's what she said. Let's rollin. We are here today because we
are about to make history. Intwenty days, we are changing Georgia.
Let's get it done. Thank youall so much for being here. Yesterday
was amazing. And I'm not talkingabout the debate that was good too,

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but yesterday we saw record her Nowfor early voting. Yes, we should
be excited, but let's remember whatthat means. It does not mean the
voter suppression doesn't exist. That's likesaying that there are no more sharks in
the water because more people get in. We know the voter suppression is alive
and well in Georgia, but we'restronger, we're faster, and we're better

(32:19):
than it, and we are goingto bring it and we're going to win
this election. There you have it. Voter suppression is still a thing,
even though more people voted, specificallymore black people. Now and again,
she provides no evidence that people hada harder time voting this go around,

(32:40):
because there isn't anything because people probablydidn't. As a matter of fact,
George's voting law actually made it easierin some ways to vote, but people
like Abrams don't want you to knowabout that. Now. Could there be
attempted voter suppression? Sure, ofcourse. It depends on how wide your
definition of that term is. Andpeople on the left or the anti Republican

(33:02):
crowd, they'll say that pretty muchanything is voter suppression, and there might
be things that I might even agreewith, But is it happening to the
extent that the left wants us tobelieve to where they can say it's Jim
Crow two point zero. No,it very clearly is not. You know,
it's like voter fraud in general.I mean, there have been cases
where voter fraud has been a seriousissue, but if you look throughout the

(33:24):
history in general, it doesn't change. It doesn't influence elections. Now should
we still do something about it?Of course, and if there's voter suppression
happening, we should do something aboutthat too. But the idea that all
these people are not able to voteis absolutely absurd because if that were the

(33:44):
case, you wouldn't have so manypeople showing up to vote. These numbers
have been growing for years. Ifanything, it's become easier to vote.
The question is how easy should itbe? I mean, and you can
argue anything about that. I mean, if you go to the dumbest extreme,
you know, you shouldn't even haveto leave your house to vote.

(34:06):
You should be able to vote byemail. And if you don't vote by
email, then mad's voter suppression.I think I just got a new satire
idea, A new satire idea forthe Smattering, which is my brand new
substack where I'm posting all my satireshameless plug. All right, that wasn't
planned by whatever. Here's the thing. They're going to keep doubling down on

(34:29):
the voter suppression narrative. But Democratsare not stupid for the most part.
They know that after this election it'snot going to be nearly as effective.
But again, when they lose bigin November, I was predicting that they
were going to use voter suppression astheir main excuse. I'm changing my mind
because I think the numbers will showwell, I think the numbers are going

(34:51):
to destroy that narrative so thoroughly thatthey won't be able to use it.
So what are they going to use. I'll give you one guess. You
already know what they're gonna do.They're going to fall back on what they
usually say, that it was whitesupremacy, that was racism. They're already
they're already primings for that too.Members of the activist media, especially black

(35:13):
progressive members of the activist media,you know, you know the ones at
tap ants. I think that thetap answers got the memo this past weekend
because you had Joy Reid, youhad Tiffany Cross, you had Jamal Hill
all coming out to excoriate racial minoritieswho aren't Democrats. You know, Jamal
Hill and Joy Reid found out thatHispanics like Rhonda Santis and that more Hispanics

(35:40):
are going to vote Republican, andthey had a cow about it. I
mean, Jamal Hill said that thereason why Hispanics in Miami Dade County are
voting for de Santis is because oftheir quote unquote proximity to whiteness, not
whiteness, whiteness. You know,Joy read I can't even She said something

(36:02):
about the Proud Boys infiltrating Miami DadeCounty and they're somehow influencing these poor,
hapless Latinos who don't know how tothink for themselves, who don't know how
to how to how to vote intheir best interests. And it's funny to
me because they think it's this whitenessthat is causing blacks and Latinos to support

(36:25):
Republicans more, But really it's peoplelike you guys that are encouraging us to
not vote Democrat. Tiffany Cross cameout again and she was bashing blacks and
Hispanics who are running for office onthe Gail on Goop tickets. She said
that these are faces of color,but they're not voices of color, quote

(36:50):
unquote, whatever the hell that means. Now, this is only a week
a few weeks ago that she waslecturing black men on how they should be
getting in line with black women tosupport Democrats because a lot of black men
are becoming disillusioned with the Democratic Party, and rightly so. I'm not saying
Republicans are perfect. You know,I got all kinds of fire for the
Republicans. If you follow me,you know I am on their behinds all

(37:13):
the time. But the idea thatblack men, or black women, or
anybody for that matter, is justsupposed to fall in line even though the
Democrats aren't fulfilling their promises is absolutelyabsurd and the prime example of black progressive
tap dancer behavior. They must havegotten the message from their white progressive overlords

(37:34):
that they're supposed to be disseminating thesemessages over this past weekend. I expect
to see more of this, especiallyafter the numbers are in, because these
people are mad that people who looklike them are not voting the way they
think they should vote. White progressiveshate it, which is why they have
their tap dancers come out that thesepeople get paid big bucks to call people

(37:55):
racist, so that's what they're doing. I'm not saying that there aren't tap
dancers on the right too. You'veseen me bring those up. As a
matter of fact, I probably talkmore about them than I do on the
left. I should probably change that, even if it's just for my own
entertainment, because whenever you point thisstuff out on the left, you got
all kinds of people coming out ofthe woodwork getting all but hurt about it

(38:16):
because they only like it when it'sbeing directed at black conservatives. But I
digress. That's what's going to happenafter they lose. They're going to blame
white supremacy because one, that's whatthey blame everything on. Two, they
don't really have anything, you know. I mean, they're not going to
take responsibility. They're not going tosay, oh, well, maybe we

(38:37):
shouldn't have been focusing on abortion,when the American people are telling us in
poll after poll after poll after pollthat their top priority is the economy.
We shouldn't be downplaying the importance ofinflation. We shouldn't be pretending that we're
hard on crime when we're really softon crime. They're not going to say
that. They're not going to say, you know what, maybe we shouldn't

(38:58):
be trying to indoctrinate children in schoolswith a progressive ideology. Maybe we shouldn't
be trying to trans kids. No, they're doubling down on all of that
stuff and they're going to keep doingit. So this is why I said
Democrats aren't stupid for the most part, because this is where they do get
stupid, and using white supremacy asa scapegoat is the very epitome of dumb.

(39:23):
But here we are. That's whatwe have here. So we'll see.
I'll talk about this more after andwe'll see if the prophet Jeff Azaiah's
predictions come true. But until then, let's pay some bills real quick.
I'll be right back. This isDarvy O Kingpinmorl, co host of The

(39:45):
Outlaws radio show, and if youhaven't heard our show before, check out
this clip JD Vance. One ofthe things I think we have to do
on the Republican side, because we'vegot the white working class and I think
we've got them solid, is startto attract you know, the black I
guess now the Latida working class intoour coalition because I think we do that
and we serve those voters well,I mean we could we could become the

(40:07):
majority party in this country for ageneration if we actually see the opportunity.
And you know what I tell alot of my friends, you know,
we're a little older than I am. I'm thirty seven years old, blotting
them to say, well, youknow, we really want to get back
to the country club set in theRepublican Party. And I say, look,
at the end of the day,like we're going to be a stronger
party if we accept that the countryclub set maybe is never coming back,

(40:29):
but we acquire some of those blackand Hispanic working class voters into our coalition,
Like let the country club set go, you know, let them use
their preferred pronouns and obsess about racialissues and gender issues because they're all crazy.
And I think that this is somethingthat actually unites a lot of working
class white and black folks, iswe just want to live in a country

(40:52):
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All right, welcome back to thefinal segment here. I appreciate you
listening. You know, I loveall of you. And we're gonna talk
about abortion and these upcoming midterm elections. Before I get into that, just
want to remind you to please subscribeto this podcast if you haven't already,
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(41:37):
just a few sentences to let peopleknow why you love this podcast so
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substat dot com. And let's getinto this. So earlier this year,

(41:57):
as you already know, the SupremeCourt issued a ruling overturning Row versus Wade,
which essentially means that legislation regarding abortionis to be left up to the
states. Now. Ever, sinceit became known that the Court was going
to issue this ruling, when thedraft opinion was leaked to the public,

(42:21):
By the way, they discovered whodid the leaking have a or if they
have, they just haven't told usabout it. Anyway, Ever since this
happened, you know, the Democratsand their close friends and allies in the
activists media have been leveraging the issueto possibly make sure that they don't lose

(42:42):
both chambers of Congress in November,or at least to mitigate some of the
damage that they're about to take inthe elections. They have been very aggressive
in their condemnation of the Court's decisionand also the legislation that went into effect
in red states that placed restrictions onthe procedure now part of their plan,

(43:08):
and this wasn't a bad strategy perse. Really part of the strategy has
been to paint Republicans as extreme onabortion and accusing them of being out a
step with what the majority of Americansfeel about abortion, especially those who don't

(43:30):
who don't believe that abortion should belegal even in cases of rape and incest,
and that that's a smart move,I mean, because whether you believe
that's right or not, the averageAmerican isn't necessarily going that far when it
comes to restricting abortion. So they'vebeen putting Republicans on the defensive by asking

(43:53):
these questions about whether they support itin cases of rape and incest or whether
they've believe it should be illegal evenin those cases. A lot of the
laws that have been passed, Ibelieve in Mississippi basically outlaws the procedure except
for in cases where the life ofthe mother is in jeopardy. And yeah,

(44:15):
it worked. I mean, conservativeswere on the defensive on this,
so it was a strategy that madesense for Democrats. But this is a
two edged sword, and I thinkthe Democrats didn't really count on this.

(44:36):
Now, there was a few researchstudy conducted in June. It said that
sixty one percent of respondents believed thatabortion should be legal in all or most
cases, while thirty seven percent thinkabortion should be illegal in all illegal in
all or most cases. Now,this sounds kind of damning, but when

(44:58):
you look at the numbers more closely, especially when you look up look at
Gallop. When you look up Galloppoles that have measured this over the past
thirty years or so, you seethat even those who think that abortion should
be legal still are for certain restrictions. See. The issue here is that

(45:23):
Democrats aren't thinking about that part ofit. Because even though most Americans don't
believe that abortion should be illegal exceptin cases of the life of the mother,
they're not exactly on the other extremeeither. And this is where Democrats

(45:45):
have been getting hit because and honestly, I believe that the Republicans should be
doing this more, but they butRepublicans have been turning this back on them.
See, Democrats have been kind ofevasive on the issue on the issue
since there have been Republicans and membersof conservative media who are pointing the finger

(46:06):
back. And this has put alot of Democratic politicians and situations where they
kind of have to hamm and hawwhen they're asked about how far their support
for abortion goes. Now, alot of them refuse to give a straight
answer, especially when it concerns lateterm abortions. And that's the issue here

(46:28):
that that's what's making it harder forDemocrats to really use the abortion issue to
its full potential. So there havebeen several like Katie Hobbs, some of
them have admitted where they stand onabortion. Now, they may not come
out and say yes, I KatieHobbes support abortion in all cases up to
the birth of the child, butthey'll say things like when they're asked about

(46:52):
it, they'll say, I believethat's between the woman and her doctors.
So essentially they're saying yes, theywould be okay with abortion up to the
point of birth. Katie Hobbs whowas running for Arizona governor, she's running
against Carry Lake. She's just oneof several. You've also got Stacy Abrams
who's running for a governor in Georgia. You've got Beato or Rourke or I'm

(47:13):
sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Francis Robert or no, it's Robert
Francis or Rourke who was running againstGovernor Greg Abbott in Texas and you know
he's gonna lose. And you alsohave others Charlie christ who was running against
Governor Ron de Santis in Florida.They have all pretty much indicated that they

(47:37):
are okay with abortion up to thepoint of birth. Now, then,
how does that gibe with how theAmerican public feels about the abortion issue,
Because again, they made out allthink it should they most don't think that
it should be illegal in many cases, but not in all cases. So

(48:00):
the Associated Press they did a surveywith the North Center for Public Affairs Research,
and they found that sixty five percentof Americans believe abortion should be illegal
in the second trimester. That's sixtyfive percent of respondence moreover eighty percent felt

(48:22):
that it should be banned during thethird trimester. See, most people who
are pro choice believe that after thatfirst trimester you don't get an abortion unless
there's situations with the health of themother and things like that. But after
the third trimester, they don't believethat it should be legal. For the

(48:44):
most part, most Americans are notextreme on this issue. So while the
left has been weaponizing the abortion issue, like I said, it's become a
two edged sword because if they cansay that if you're a Republican and you
don't want abortion in cases of thelife of the mother, then the Republicans
going to turn right around, Yeah, but you guys want to kill babies

(49:06):
up until the point of birth,which one of those sounds more extreme.
I don't know which one sounds amore extreme to the American public. But
in this way, conservatives have beenable to expose the radicals on the pro
abortion side of the argument, whichhas basically, in my opinion, diminished

(49:28):
the efficacy of this argument. Nowthere's still they're still using it. I
believe it's still having somewhat of animpact, but I think there are some
other issues here and Honestly, ifI were Democrats, I would not be
using abortion not like this. WhyBecause, as my colleague Mark angelides at

(49:52):
Liberty and Nation dot com, whereI also write, he wrote an article
about this and he said, quotepull after pull indicates that the top priority
for the American voter is the costof living. It was true when Clinton
strategist James Carville coined the phrase it'sthe economy stupid, and it remains true

(50:12):
today. And he continues even arecent New York Times Sienna College survey noted
that female voters. Female voters aremore concerned over pocketbook policies than abortion.
And then he asked the same questionI'm asking, so why instead of seeking
to address the issue of inflation,are Democrat politicians doubling down? He continues

(50:37):
later on the article and he writes, quote for the millions of voters across
the nation who would usually cast astraight blue ballot, their party's refusal to
acknowledge that inflation and the cost ofliving crisis are the pivotal issues during this
election cycle is likely more than alittle frustrating. How do you make yourself

(51:00):
by an authority who refuses to listen? And he is absolutely right. But
we actually just talked about this thisearlier for another thing on Liberty Liberty Nation
TV, which I host. Youshould check that out, and we basically
agreed. I mean, Americans havebeen telling both parties what their main concerns

(51:22):
are. It's the economy. Abortionbarely even cracks number seven on the list.
American voters are telling Democrats, hey, we're hurting here at the gas
pump. We're hurting when when whenwe go to get groceries. You know
what, Education is an issue,Immigration, crying pretty much, There's tons

(51:45):
of issues that take precedence over abortion. And yet you still had Joe Biden
coming out and doubling down on abortion. You want to hear from him.
Okay, hold on a second,let me roll it. The court Row
right nearly fifty years ago, andI believe Congress should codify Row once and
for all. Right, now,we're short a handful of votes. If

(52:13):
you care about the right to choose, then you got to vote. That's
why in these mid term elections areso critical. Look more Democratic senators to
the United States Senate and more Democratsto keep control of the House of Representative
and volks. If we do that, here's the promise I make to you
and the American people. The firstbill that I will send to the Congress

(52:36):
will be to codify Roe v.Wade, and when Congress passes it,
I'll sign it in January, fiftyyears after rowe Is first decided the law
of the land, and together we'llrestore the right to choose for every woman
in every state in America. Sovote, You got to get out the

(52:58):
vote. We can do this ifwe vote. We can do this.
If we vote, I'm gonna codifyRoe v. Wade. But, mister
President, we're hurting, We're losingmoney, We're hurting financially because of this
inflation. You know what I hearyou, American people. That's why I'm

(53:19):
gonna codify Roe v. Wade ifyou elect more Democrats in the House and
the Senate. Mister President, doyou know how much money I paid at
the gas pump just to fill upmy car. I can't even go to
places that I normally go to inmy everyday life because gas prices are so
high. You know, a voter, You're right, this is an issue,

(53:44):
and in order to address it,I'm gonna codify Roe v. Wade
so that you can kill your babies, dude, Really, I mean,
I just told you how much I'mpaying in gas. Do you know how
much it costs just to get somechicken at the grocery store when I go
to h I can't even buy salmonanymore. As much I have to budget
it, I have to portion itout. I don't know how much longer

(54:07):
we can deal with this, allthese gas prices and the groceries. I
can't buy what I normally buy,mister President, the cost of living,
it's just it's it's just too much. I mean, what what are you
going to do about that? Listen? Here are you? Dog face pony?
You're lying, dog face pony soldier. I told you I'm gonna codify

(54:28):
Roe v. Wade. You're you'reworried about your cost of living. You
know what Stacy Abrams said before shewas working on stage at that rap concert.
If you have more abortions, it'lllower inflation. You won't have to
buy as much for those kids thatyou that you that you won't have,
So vote for us, will codifyRoe v Wade. Okay, Okay,

(54:52):
that's it. Let's go Brandon,And that's how the midterms are going right
now. That was an impromptuous kid. I wasn't planning on doing that.
Maybe I should do more with those. That was kind of fun, But
yeah, that's pretty much how themidterm elections have gone. Now. The
other issue that Mark pointed out whenwe were talking is that one of the

(55:13):
reasons why abortion isn't working so wellfor Democrats is because the Court issued it's
ruling too early. And when Iwas having conversations back then, I pointed
this out. Now, if theyhad come up with this ruling this week
or next week, or maybe evenlast month, now, you know,
it's going to get a lot ofpeople mad. Right. I still don't

(55:34):
think it would be enough, butit would possibly help them mitigate some of
the devastation that they're going to takein November. The problem is that it
happened earlier this year, and Ieven said, yeah, this is going
to hurt you know, this isgonna hurt Republicans at least for the short
term because Democrats were going to useit. But I guarantee that by the
time that we that it came downto the wire, the economy was still

(55:57):
going to be the number one issue. That's going to be what's on everybody's
mind. I mean, and honestly, pro life voters are way more adamant
about the issue than pro abortion folksare. I mean, they're pretty passionate
about it. But I mean,if you believe that when you have an
abortion that you're snuffing out the lifeof an innocent child, I mean,
it doesn't I mean, that's nothing'sgoing to elicit passion more than that,

(56:20):
right. So, you know,with our American level attention span, I
figured that even if Democrats continued harpingon this issue. You know, when
people are going to the grocery storeand they're paying more, they're not thinking
about abortion, and they're not thinkingabout January six either, for that matter,
which is the other issue that Democratsare pushing. You know. Stan

(56:40):
Greenberg, who is a well knownDemocratic poster, told Politico that Democrats need
to stop trying to push this issueand also need to stop touting their accomplishments,
their legislative accomplishments, and instead focuson what those accomplishments are going to
do to help lower the cost ofliving. But he's not wrong. I
mean, if I would Democrats,I'd be pushing that. But the problem

(57:04):
is that that's all they have,I mean, because they haven't really done
much for the economy that might benefitpeople, you know, in the future,
but they're still dealing with these prices. So but again, that would
be like the best their best hopeat this point. And really, realistically,
even if they change their messaging around, it's too late. I mean,
we're less than two weeks away fromthe midterms the diets cast, so

(57:29):
that's gonna But that doesn't mean thatthe abortion issue isn't going to come back
up, right Because Roe v.Wade was overturned, that was a historic
moment, something that people never thoughtwould happen, at least not in our
life times, and it did.So that's going to be used for more
political fodder. But I did wantto kind of go over how it's going
to affect these upcoming elections. I'mtelling you not much at all. It's

(57:50):
going to have somewhat of an impact. There are going to be people who
go to the polls with abortion ontheir mind, but I guarantee you most
of these people have the economy ontheir mind before before abortion. So we're
gonna leave it there. We're gonnaland this plane. Thank you everybody for
listening. I really appreciate you.Please share this and please subscribe if you
haven't already. I really appreciate,appreciate everybody who supports my work. So

(58:15):
um, keep going and I willsee you next time. This has been

(58:37):
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