Ep. 32 - Fresh Sundays: Rhonda Mary On Female Gun Ownership

Rhonda Mary stopped by the program to discuss gun ownership, especially among women, who are buying firearms at increased rates. She tells the story of how she became a gun owner and how she became a content creator. She also goes over some practical advice for women who are considering becoming gun owners.

Check out her YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/c/RhondaMary

Episode Transcript

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This is the FCB Podcast Network.This is a fresh perspective with Jeff Charles.

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Without further ado, I'm just gonnago ahead and bring on my guests.
I have with me a content creator, a Second Amendment supporter, the
lovely Rhonda Mary. Welcome to theprogram system. Thank you for having me.
Yeah, I'm glad to have youon. I've actually it's funny,
I've actually been wanting to do thisfor a long time. I just haven't
gotten around to it. But you'veyou've been I've been seeing me out there.

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You're doing a lot of stuff Isee on Instagram all the time,
so it's good stuff. And Istarted following you probably like a couple of
years ago, so I've kind ofseen how you've grown since then. So
it's been it's been nice to see. Thank you. It's been a really
interesting journey that. Yeah, thelife of a content creator is very interesting,
definitely. So but before we getinto everything, why don't you tell

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us a little bit about yourself andwhat you do, what you're about,
all that good stuff. So,hey, y'all, my name is Rhonda
Mary. I am a Second Amendmentadvocate. Like he already said, YouTube
n is such a great introduction.I really don't need to rehash that part,
but anyway, I started off asa YouTuber talking about political and social
topics, and as I was learningmore about American history, civics, civil

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rights, black American history, allthese other things, I was just becoming
more open to, like the Constitutionand what the life of American citizen's allegedly
supposed to and you know, thefreedom and everything that comes with that.
And so I had already kind ofbecome open to the idea of gud ownership,

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but I wasn't a gun owner.And during around that same time,
simultaneously, I think this was maybea year or so into YouTube, it
may have been shorter, I wasin a hidden run slash road rage incident
where an irate driver basically tried topush my car off the road in a

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frenzy, ended up like crashing anddamaging my bumper and all this other crazy
stuff. And I was going likewell over seventy miles per hour on the
road, but I wasn't going fastenough for him, and he pushed me
off the road and at some pointwe both pulled over. And this is
at a point where I was completelyjust not eve it's just all vibes.

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It's not about or being up youknow, logical thinking. And you know,
he was just very outright and wascussing me out and saying all this
crazy stuff, and it's like alight switch went off, and it's like,
girl, like this man could haveended you on the side of this
role, like, you know,for me to even let it get this

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far. And the respondent officer justhappened to be a young black woman,
and I was telling her about whatwas going on, and she was like,
girl, you didn't have a gun, And you know, I was
like, no, like I cando that, Like this like a thing
for real. I could just beout here trying to defend my life.

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And a week or two later,I went and got my first firearm.
And then as I started learning moreabout it, I'm like, I gotta
tell other people about this, becauseI don't want people out here feeling how
I felt. And so I justkind of started sharing their journey and talking
to people more about it, anda lot of people were really really responsive,

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and so I just kind of startedmixing that in with what I was
already doing. Yeah, I mean, that has to be a chilling situation.
I mean a lot of times whenpeople get guns because they anticipate something
that might happen. But then thereare also people who get one because something
does happen and they realize that theywere defenseless, and so they don't want
to have that happen again. Believeit or not, I think it's the

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opposite. For I would say mostof the people outside of the and this
might be a little stereotypical. Imight even be wrong on this front as
well, but I do think thatyou have a lot of the white,
older male population, and it's kindof like, especially when you're in certain

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parts of the country, right rightinto them, like this is our God,
give them right. Whereas I thinka lot of people outside of that
demographic, especially like through media andHollywood and you know, public schools,
we're kind of almost taught to beanti gun from the jib or only look
at it as if it's for certainpeople. And I think a lot of

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people outside of that demography, unfortunately, you do have something that happened to
them negatively and then they're like,oh, let me now go get protection.
Right the lady off of the view, she was even one of those
Well, I don't think anything negativelyhappened to her. I think it was
just what she was maybe seeing orlike neighborhood chyroll, I can't think of

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her last name or nobody think shewas recent and you know, she was
saying how she want to go outof fire arm just because of everything she
was seeing. And I think,you know, it's unfortunate that it has
to be like that, and ifI can't help and prevent people from having
to go through a negative experience becauseyou don't know something a bad bad to

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happen and then you have to learnthem back in. Unfortunately, yeah,
unfortunately and kind Unfortunately. I've beenable to meet some people that don't have
the best stories, you know,I've met women that have been raped or
taking advantage of I met one womanwho feel ups their husband was killed right

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in front of her, you know, to see them go get armed after
that. If I can help sparkas much curiosity, knowledge, safety,
understanding and kind of sparks some ofthese conversations, like I want to be
that person to help more people comeopen to this idea before anything bad happens

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to them, right, Yeah,it's important, I mean, and I
think I think you're right, aboutwhat you were saying. I mean,
there are different reasons why people willget into guns, like you said,
living in certain parts of the country, it's just part of the part of
life. They want to exercise aSecond Amendment right and and that kind of
thing. I mean. And forme, I was born and raised in
southern California, not very gun friendly, and I was never against guns,
but it never would have even occurredto me to become a gun owner myself.

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That didn't happen until later in life. I never would, like if
you would have asked me when Iwas in my early twenties if I would
ever own a gun, I'd belike, no, why would I do
that? Then, you know,as I learned more, I'm like,
you know, why wouldn't I Imean, because you just never know what's
gonna happen. And plus there's alsothe fun side of it too. I
like shooting, I like going tothe range and all that stuff. So

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I think everybody has a different journey. But I wanted to ask you what
made you want to become a contentcreator in the first place. I like,
what pushed you into that space?It was a make sure thing.
So first of all, this wasback in a day, I would have
friends that would tell me, oh, you should do YouTube for hair,

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you should do YouTube for makeup,and all these other things, and I
would think, like, no,um, you know, that's just not
my thing, Like I'm really notinto that. And as time went on,
like this was back in the daywhen I was on Facebook, and
I would talk about these different topicsthat were viral and I wasn't trying to

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be controversial, but sometimes people wouldtake it like that. And I just
had this really silly idea that ifI said it in longer format, people
would be like, oh, Iget you down now. I agree with
that, But that certainly was notthe case. It doesn't matter what formatch
you're saying, and if it's Twitteror if you go on to say,
oh, let me explain this,you know, in this longer format,

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this forty minute YouTube video, ifit goes outside of any level of the
mainstream media narrative, a lot oftimes you're just gonna have a lot of
pushback. And so I don't know. I had friends that kind of we're
in my ear, just kind ofhyping me up to do it. And
it took a minute. It liketook a minute, because you know,

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when you're a you tuber or no, not even when you're just a YouTuber.
When you're starting at something new,a lot of people stress the details.
You know, how does my lightinglook, how does my background look?
How does I remember? When Ifirst started, I had seen these
YouTubers that would have like these shiny, sparkly backgrounds behind them. So I

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went to like, I don't know, Joanne or some type of legs or
you get Fatbric and stuff like this, and I hung a shiny background up
behind me, and I remember Ifinally felt like I did everything right.
I got my Karens and up,I got my lightning set up, and
I sat there and I think Ididn't maybe like a thirty minute video.

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And when I went to watch thevideo back half of my background was like
off the wall. I remember beingso depressed. I was like, oh
my god, I was just superannoying. I was just like, I'm
it's over it. I just don'twant to do this. I'm just so

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over And my friend's like, no, run, you've got to do it.
You're so dope. People are gonnalove you. He's like, let
me see it, and he triedto talk me into posting it like that,
and I'm like, I just can't. I just can't do it.
And so a few days later Iworked up the goods and I recorded something
again, which was needless to say, much shorter, but you know,

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and it's an entire journey because whatI learned from that is sometimes you just
gotta go for it when stuff isnot perfect. And then also it's gonna
be people that are gonna ride withyou that love to see that journey and
your change and your progression. Likeeven now, so this is like my
new office and finally I have abetter camera, I have better light,

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and I have I'm like, butthis ain't all that right now, but
people are gonna see evolving go overtime. But I mean I've been in
some of my videos in my bedroomus to be in a background and just
all kinds of stuff. So itchanges, it changes. It's an evolution,
yeah, absolutely, and people peopleare love that they kind of get
to go on that journey with you. And you will have people. I

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remember when you have fifteen hundred followers, I was the fifteen hundred and one
follower, you know, So yeah, it's been nice to see the evolution
I mean, and it's crazy howit works. I mean, it's a
it's a it's a slog. Imean, it takes time, but you
can when you look back, youcan see where you were and where you
are now, and it's great.Um, what kind of so when you

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do content on guns, because Isee a lot of your stuff on Instagram
and you're and you're you have theselittle short videos about you know, women
owning guns and why they should andand you know, tips on how to
carry and all that stuff. Whatkind of response do you get from that
as a woman being in the space, Because usually it's it's it's a lot
of dudes in the gun world,and it's especially when it comes to content,

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Well, what what's what's the responsebeen to you as a woman.
So initially when I started Don't Don'tdoing gun content, I had a bigger
following of guys. And you probablydon't know this about me, and this
is a little tidbit, but beforethat, my content was mostly yeared towards

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at least its Instagram goals was mostlygeared towards like fitness and health and stuff
like that. And so I kindof, like you know, started switching
and introducing some of this gun contentand stuff like that. And so initially
I had a large male following,and now I'm nearly at like fifty fifty
mil and fifty fifty well, andit's so exciting to me. And if

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you know anything about like algorithms andmetrics, most people, especially when you're
dealing with like politics and pretty muchanything outside of and not to sound stereotypical,
but outside of like hair like beauty, right, we're gonna have a
larger male following. That's just mostpeople. That's for It doesn't matter if

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it's a male commentator or a female, it just tends to weigh Even if
you look at YouTube numbers, likeI said, if you're anything outside of
beauty, a lot of times,you know, male viewership is really hot
on YouTube and stuff like that.And so initially when I started it,
you know, I didn't get alot of the response that I thought I

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wanted from women, Like I'm like, no, I need to make this
better. I need to you know, attract more women, and so I
started making everything prettier. Honestly,I started making everything prettier, flirtier,
like makeup, wearing these cute dressesand your girl been cute. Now,

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like, don't get it twisted,don't get it wrong. You do it
up a little bit, you dollit up a little bit more. I
started giving safety tips that were outsideof the gun, right, because sometimes
women aren't scared of the gun andnot ready to work up to that.
So I'll say this is how youyou flashlight, this is what you do

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when you're traveling, you know,and those type of tips, this is
what you should do when you enteryour home at night, and tips that
have absolutely nothing to do with afirearm, because it can be a little
intimidating, it can be a littlescary, and that kind of brings them
in a little bit. They say, Okay, I like this tip.
Let me see a little bit morewhere she talked what she's talking about,

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And then that kind of rolls themin. And I saw my demographics starting
to change, and I'm like,okay, this is good. I'm I'm
getting to the money now, solike this, this is good good,
you know, and I want totalk about women buying more firearms. But
before I go there, you mentionedthat, you know, sometimes it's intimidating
for what I hear from men,and they kind of tell me about what

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made them buy a gun or whatwas making them hesitant. I mean,
it really was just mainly like theyjust weren't sure if they needed it.
But when it comes to women,what would you say is like the number
one, two or three reasons whythey might they might be thinking about it,
but they're hesitant to actually make thatstep of buying a firearm because of

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all the negative stereotypes that people putinto their heads about firearms and about owning
firearms. This is so popular,and it's so it's so so let me
explain first and then I'll just talkabout it a little bit. A lot

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of times when you have women thatare interviews of relationships or maybe they live
in not the best of areas andthey're thinking about getting firearms, one of
the first things you'll have people say, this is way more common, and
it should be and it's actually veryeasy heat right, the fact that,
oh, if you use this firearm, will that firearm is more likely to

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be turned on you. Right,I've heard that was to kill you.
Okay. Now, that completely negatesthe fact that a lot of times we
do not hear the success stories,the overcomer stories, these stories about women
defending their tools with defending their lives. With these tools, right, you

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have what happens a lot more oftenthan the other one. Now, hundreds
of thousands, I think, whatbetween three hundred thousand to one million each
year of firearms saving lives. Okay, A huge part of gun violence or
quote unquote gun violence statistics are suicides. And so it's just so much I

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don't I don't like this idea thatwomen are supposed to be so empowered,
so strong, so independent. Andthen as soon as we get into talking
about defending your life, which hasmore than anything people talk about defending their
peace and keeping their peace and allthis, you don't have peace if you
don't have life. And so Ihope to be moved into discouraging women,

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like, if we're gonna be empowered, let's be empowered all around. It's
not time to power when it comesto our safety. That is not the
time to be like, oh nowit's time to depend on a man or
the good will. This man thatI don't know, it really doesn't owe
me anything. And so if anything, to be empowered means to be able

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to defend something, that means shouldmean the most to us, to our
families and our community, our children, and that's our livelihood. And so
I hope that so many women arediscouraged from that. And I think it's
on purpose. I think it's onpurpose. I saw a tweet recently that
this did numbers on my Instagram whereI can't remember verbet on what the guy

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said, but he was responding tothis woman who said that she deserves to
defare her life from assault or attack, and his response was, you know,
it's I find it funny that yourather sick in jail for twenty to
twenty five years. They're like,guy, then let a guy take advantage
of you. I could when Isaw that tweet, Randa, I couldn't

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believe it. I was like,what this has got to be a troll,
Like this guy can't be real,Like what kind of dumbass tweet is
that? This is what I'm tellingyou, There are people out here that
actually think like that. They thinkthat, like, like, your highest
alignment should be to defend yourself,defend your life, defend your family and

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your children. Some people think thatyou don't deserve that. They don't think
you are deserving of that. Theythink that criminals rapist. And I'm not
gonna call this guy a rapist,but he's definitely on the side of the
rapist. Well, if you're sayingstuff like that, he is, even
if he doesn't intend to be,he is. When you think that I

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should just succumb to a rapist,you rather that than me having to explain
to a jury or the police whyI defended my life, And not to
even mention that a woman doesn't knowas she being raped that the next step
isn't murder. You don't know that, you don't know that. Are we

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really thinking that we can already seethat a rapist. The moral fiber is
not there to SoC even assume thatyou can potentially murder me. It's just
a ridiculous concept in itself. Ibelieve that a person that is willing to
violently ripe and attack somebody is willingto do pretty much anything. You obviously

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aren't worried about the consequences. Andso we need to stop trying to scare
women into being vulnerable. Who winsfrom that? Evil men, good men
don't from that, and women surelydon't. And so if we won't,
if we really won't, not onlypeople to be held accountable. Swift consequences.

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You have to know. You shouldhave to know if you intend to
hurt children and women, and notto leave men out too. Because,
don't get me wrong, I don'tthink that men are just disposable. I
don't think that men should have tosubmit their lives to others or at people
either. Absolutely. However, ifyou have a culture or society that is

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and that's There's so much in whatyou just said. And it reminded me
of a story. A good friendof mine told me that his dad told
him about a situation where he carries. He has a gun, and somebody
wanted to rob him for his wallet. And the guy, I think he
had a knife or something like that, and he had like twenty bucks,
and so he just gave him thetwenty bucks and let him go because he

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didn't want to have to potentially killsomebody over twenty bucks. But that's far
different from what you were describing.I mean, if it's a situation where
you're a woman and somebody's trying torape you or rob you, you don't
know what they're going to do.And that tweet pissed me off because I
know that that probably convinced or madewomen of sally some women more afraid.

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It reaffirmed that message, And whenyou're talking about empowering women, that was
deep because you're right, the samepeople who say they want women to be
empowered in every other area of theirlife are somehow against the idea of a
woman being empowered to defend herself.They're always like, oh, women don't
need a man, they don't needa man, but don't get a gun.

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Well, I mean, if there'sa man after you, I'm sorry,
like he's gonna win unless you havea gun. So that so that's
not empowering. That's disempowering, andit's it's it's a really sick message.
If you think about it, it'sreally sick. And when you really think
about it, it also insinuates that, oh, if you just submit,

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if you just succumb, everything willbe all right, it'll turn out right.
But we know that oftentimes more timesthan not right. Let's say,
if you are being abducted and thisman tries to put you in a car
or put you into the trump,the chances of you ever returning home is

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literally slim to none, slim tonone if some if you ever let someone
take you to a second location,that is one of the worst things you
can ever do right right, Butyou have so many people that think,
oh, well, if I justdo this, if I just go this
far, but you don't know howfar the other person is willing to take

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it. You do not know,You do not know, and too insenuate,
Oh, if you just go alongwith it, it'll stop there,
it'll end there. That's not alwayshow it works. And like you and
I'm glad you made the distinction.You know, if you see that this
person older trying to just get twentydollars and just trying to take my purse
and go. You know, that'sa different thing from Don't get me wrong,

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you can still be traumatized by that. But when we're literally talking about
taking someone's body, right, thatcan lead to a life a long time
of stress, trauma, PTSD.I mean possibly taking the ability for this
person to have children, all theother STDs and every other thing that could

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come with that. That people justthink, oh, just give them the
five minutes to seven minutes and you'llget past it, but that can lead
to a life long time of likeheartbreak and just in stress and everything else
that's related to it. Yeah,So in light of that, I want
to get it to the good partbecause gun sales are skyrocketing. I think

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in June it hit gun sales exceededa million purchases, and that was for
the I think it was a thirtyfifth month in a row. And a
lot of these new gun buyers arewomen, Black women specifically, and I'm
seeing more Black women and women ingeneral taking that step. I mean,
it's funny because when I first gotmy gun, I was talking to my

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mom about it and she was terrifiedbecause I remember we're from southern California,
and she was like, well,why do you need a gun? And
you know, I kind of gaveher my reasons why, but I also
assured her that I'd be safe andwent over all that stuff. About eight
months later, she's like, Okay, I want to get a gun.
I didn't even try to convince her, but now she's she's ready. So
why do you think so many morewomen are willing to become gun owners nowadays?

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Because they're seeing it. They're seeingit more, and they're seeing it
from people by me, and sowill others. Don't give me wrong,
who are sharing these stories. Youhave different organizations that are reaching the people,
that are making it way more popular, way more common, and more
every day, you know, andsome people are really becoming open to the

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idea. And also I think thatCOVID and the COVID lockdowns and just everything
surrounding that time open people's eyes tojust a different realm. Right when you
literally have police departments making statements likeyil, we're you know, unless this

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is life threatening, we're not coming. Well, something can go from not
life threatening to life threatening literally inseconds, you know, And so I
think so many people seeing that like, nobody's coming to save you. Even
if they're coming to save you,they're not obligated to save you. You
don't know if they're gonna get therein enough time. Crime Like, crime

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is swift, it happens fast.Violence is swift, it happens fast.
Right. I think you see people. I think you had people see firsthand
the violence and crime that was increasingin their neighborhoods. When you're allowing people
to mask their identities and are otherthings that just you had people losing their

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jobs. All these things are gonnatranslate into more crime, right, a
lot more time on their heads,more people to take advantage of, and
all these other things. And soI think that that unique set of circumstances
kind of propelled a lot of womento be more open to the idea of

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becoming armed. Yeah. Yeah,and it's it's not a good reason,
but I mean it's good that it'shappening because it is important. So for
women who are thinking about getting agun, or maybe they've already made the
decision and they know they want toget one and they want to get into
this world, I mean, well, what advice would you have for a
woman who's because I think it's differentfrom men. But for women, what

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would you what tips would you givethem when it comes to getting a gun
and clearing and all that stuff.First of all, I would say,
you definitely need to get trained.You know, save the money, find
the money, put a little bitof money back, and a few times

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out of a year, try togo to a really good training where you
can learn more. Also, there'stons of information that is available by way
of your smartphone. You know,we have an access to a lot of
information, but that hands owned training. You want to be prepared, and

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you want to be proficient, andyou want to understand the law. It
is so important. Getting a firearmis not enough. Okay, Every year,
every year, like clockwork, thereare sisters all across the country who
shoot that firearm in the air becauseof an attacker, a previous abuser,

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or whatever the case may be.They shoot that firearm in the air,
letting off rounds. They the policeeither find out or they call a police
unknowingly that they have now broken alaw and now they almost i mean literally
become a criminal just like that,something so simple. Right, Because of

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our misunderstanding or lack of knowledge,we see these things on TV, or
we'll hear like somebody like Joe Biden, or somebody says shoot them in a
leg or or simile barding shot.You know, we're very very um miseducated
or behind the eight ball in alot of ways, and that is solved
through knowledge and education. We theentire point of the firearm is to protect

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and defend life, not to notto become a criminal or end up behind
bars when no actual crime was metit. And when I say that may
sound sound a little weird, butI'll say like violent crime, and you

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know it's it's almost a way tofeed into what we don't want to what
don't want to do. We don'twant to feed into the beast of the
system. Right, you don't wantto not know the laws and now you
don't know about the proper storage,how you should be traveling. If this
is a duty to retreat state,you know that you shouldn't be shooting in
the air, like a duty tonotify state, like all things that go

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into it, that can mean aprison sentence for you when it doesn't have
to be. So getting the firearma law is just simply not enough.
And we don't want to further aproblem, especially especially in these deep blue
cities that are already ant high gunling. They're not going to favor you.

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They're not gonna favor you. Idon't favor your attacker more than the favorite
year you're going to favorite. Andit's sad. It's sad to say.
And even if we want to getinto that conversation, that's a whole different
conversation. But you know, it'sunfortunate that a lot of times the person
that was attempting to commit the crimecommitted the crime. The attacker. You

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know, it may be more favorablethan it comes to you being negligent with
that firearm. M Yeah, Imean we saw what happened with m.
I can't remember his name, butthe guy in New York City at the
bodega, and he didn't use agun, but this guy was clearly attacking
him and he stabbed him in selfdefense, and he was going to face

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a murder charge. I mean,luckily, I mean, there was enough
pressure for the day to you know, stop being a moron, But he
could have gone to jail for doingwhat all of us would do defending himself.
And I mean it's crazy. Andimagine how many faceless people face that
same fate everyone that their story didn'thappen to go viral, you know,

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And so those are real things.Those are real issues, and we don't
want people to have to face thatand be taken away from their families and
lose their jobs and things like this. We want to know people. We
want people to know what they're upagainst and what they're dealing with when they're
owning and using these tools. Yeah, exactly. I mean, And even

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the thing is, you can evendo everything right, like like he did,
and still face a charge. Imean, that's why, that's why
they have a carry insurance. Ihave that insurance just in case something pops
off. Even if I do everythingright, I still want to be covered
legally because if depending on where youlive, you got these DA's who want
to make an example of you.They don't like the idea of people defending

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themselves or the good guy with agun that they say doesn't exist, but
the data shows that it does.There's a lot to think about it.
I mean, it's a training,it's covering yourself legally, and you know,
and I say this, and thenI don't want to intimidate people into
the thinking that Oh, it's justsuch a life change that I shouldn't do
it. No, it's it's it'sa change, and I want to get
into it to an aspect of thatin a second. But it's it's worth

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it. I was talking to RickGreen about this. I mean, when
you carry you your life from whenyou don't carry to where you start caring,
you do things differently, You weardifferent clothes, you you you operate
differently. You have to be awareof more things. Um So when it
comes to like, when it comesto caring, like for women, it's
different from men. So I knowwomen have a harder time of it.

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Can you kind of talk a littlebit about that. Um So, when
I originally started carrying my firearm,um I had guys who would see me,
Oh, you gotta change how youdress. You gotta wear bigger shirts,
you gotta dress book. You know, like this is the way,
Like you just gotta do it.You just gotta accept it. And I

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was, you know, again thatidea I was in opposition to that.
I didn't believe that to care thistool, I have to fundamentally change,
you know, the way that Ilook on a day today. And so
I was determined to find ways findproducts on the market that would fit my

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style, that would fit the wayI like to dress, and I like
to be comfortable, and that's whatI did. And I think that that's
another reason why what we're seeing withthe numbers of women who are becoming gun
owners. And I see that reflectedin my local gun shop because now they're
hiring more women to work behind thecounter and stuff like that. And I

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think that because the gun industry hasbeen so mall dominated, I think that
you have a lot of men thatdon't necessarily have bad intentions, but I
think that they don't really understand orthey don't really care that women face a
unique set of problems when it comesto trying to conceal carry. I don't

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want to look frumpy. I don'twant to look for us like a grandma.
I don't want to dress like I'mfrom the middle of Utah, like
that's I'm just not into it.So I think that if we want to
make women understand that this is somethingthat could work for them, we have

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to make it fit them. It'slike, what's really good about going to
trainings and working with different fire owninstructors is they can give you tips,
right, they can help you kindof craft these ideas and these plans until
you the best things and most ofall, make sure that you're safe.

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But this is still a kind ofunique and personal journey. Some things that
work for me may not work foryou. Some things that work for you.
I'm like, Okay, I seewhat she's doing over there. I
like that. Let me see howI can use that or use that to
my benefit. And so the partof it being an unique journey is a
big part of it. Yeah,it definitely is. So I wanted to

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find out. I mean, butbefore we sign off, what else do
you have going on with your channel? Like what do you have something in
the works or yes, So I'mactually working on content now to help not
just women, but everybody who arekind of like me who came in a
game, you know that don't haveprior military background, don't have veteran family

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members getting hunting with their grandpa whenthey were three years old. Kind of
help those people on their journey andgive them a little bit more guidance,
especially when the resources, you know, maybe lacking. I know that sometimes
when you're looking for information, away that information is disseminated across the Internet

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can be a little tough to getlike, I just want to get right
to the nitty gritty. This isthe answer I need. This is what
I'm trying to get to. SoI'm working on a solution for that.
So hopefully in the next couple months, you guys will see me promoting that
and trying to get that word out. But that's mostly what I've been focused
on right now, and just tryingto get the word out more and trying

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to spread the message and not onlyjust about gun ownership, especially especially as
it relates to the black community.One thing I think we shouldn't forget to
do is leave out the political sideof this. It's one thing to be
able to defend your life, andit's super important. But if you're great

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great grandkids aren't gonna have those samerights or they're potentially their threat because we
aren't learning civics, we don't knowwhat's due to us as American citizens and
all these other things. Then youknow, that's a concern that we should
have and that's important. But that'sa whole another conversation that we could save

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for another day. Yeah, definitely, yeah, because I do talk about
that a lot, but I loveto get more of your perspective on that,
so we got to do this again. But you're doing a great job.
I mean I see your stuff allthe time, so I'm really I'm
really excited about about what you're doingand I'll be looking forward to what you
do with this new project as well. But before we go, why don't

(38:30):
you let it be new word theycan find you. So you can find
me on YouTube Runda Mary. I'mon Instagram Runda Underscore Mary, Runda Mirror
Views, and on Twitter i amRunda Mirror. It's some version or Rundo
mirror. You will find me,y'all. I have been kicked off on
these platforms. I'll sleep back andall kinds of stuff. So it's some

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version of Round and Mary out thereand you'll find me. Okay, great,
Well, thanks for joining me andI'll look forward to having you back
on. Thank you. This hasbeen a presentation of the FCB podcast Network,
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