Ep. 36 - Jeff's Political Journey Over the Last Year

In this episode, Jeff Charles discusses his political journey over the past year and highlights the importance of local politics. He tells the story of a pastor in North Carolina who is being hassled by his city government for feeding and housing the homeless. He also touches on the war in Israel and how it might turn out. Finally, he discusses lawsuits filed against medical facilities by detransitioners for subjecting them to “gender-affirming care” as children.

Episode Transcript

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This is the FCB Podcast Network.This is a Fresh Perspective with Jeff Charles.

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All Right, all right, allright, y'all, welcome, Welcome
back to another episode of a FreshPerspective with Jeff Charles on the FCB Network,
where we prefer truth over narrative andprinciples over politics always. And it's
it's been a while, hasn't it. Yeah, I know it has been

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a while. I kind of hadto put things on hiatus for a bit,
had a lot of things happening inmy life. Have been very busy,
busy, busy, and I'm lookingforward to catching you guys all up
on what I've been doing, andI will be more consistent from here on
out. I'm like, had alot of things settled down. Still busy,
but I think I'm back into myflow. So I'm going to be

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putting a lot more time into thisproject, into this production, and into
giving you the news about things thatactually matter rather than all the outrage,
porn and all that jazz. BeforeI get into the subject matter first and
kind of explain what's been going onwith me, hype up my new substack.

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Well it's not that new anymore,but it's called Chasing Liberty. Check
it out on substack. You cansee that at Libertychasers dot com and I'll
put a link to that in theshow notes. I'm doing a lot of
different types of content, but I'mfocusing mainly on local issues, instances of
government abuses carried out by a localgovernment, local law enforcement, mayors and

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all of that good stuff, andI'll be talking a lot about that.
In fact, I plant to dedicatea lot of my platform to talking about
local issues because I really want toget people to understand how important it is
to focus on your local politics.So check it out at Chasing Liberty libertychases
dot com. It's the same nameas a book that I'm going to be
having come out pretty soon. Ijust finished it. I'm going through the

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proofreading process. The book is calledChasing Liberty. Pretty easy to remember,
right. I will be keeping youguys updated on that and I'll let you
know when it comes out and whereyou can get it and all of that
good stuff. But yeah, definitelygo to my subsect, become a subscriber,
Become a paid subscriber, support mywork. I really appreciate everybody who
supports me and what I'm trying todo, and I'll be getting a lot

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into that as well, But let'sjust get down to brass tax. What's
been going on with Jeff Charles.Now, if you've followed me for any
length of time, you might alreadyknow, especially if you follow me on
Twitter, if you've been following mywriting all of that good stuff over the
past let's say, five six yearsor so, I've dedicated a lot of

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my platform to the conservative space andthe Republican space. And even though my
beliefs have always been more libertarian,I wasn't really I wouldn't have considered myself
a part of the liberty movement becausemy philosophy is that if we take over
the Republican Party, we can finallyget it to live up to what it
says it does. Because if you'vebeen a Republican for any length of time,

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you know what they do. Theyrun on a libertarian platform, then
they get into office and they governlike diet Democrats. People have been complaining
about that for god knows how long, So I'm not doing that anymore.
Just just to put it bluntly,and I'm gonna kind of just walk you
through the story of what happened,and you know what led me to where

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I am right now. So letme take you back to November eighth,
twenty twenty two. This was afterthe midterm elections, and if you remember,
there was this big red wave Iwas supposed to happen, and it
turned out to be a red trickle. Democrats increased their lead in the Senate,
Republicans managed to take back the Housebarely. And you know, I

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went to the ballot box, right, I went to vote and do my
civic duty. And even when Iwas in line, I was just thinking,
you know what, I can't dothis anymore. Maybe you've gone through
something similar. And I was fullyexpecting to vote for Republican candidates, at
least mostly Republican candidates. I wouldvote Republican and libertarian, and I planned

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to vote for Governor Greg Abbott.I'm in Texas for those who don't know.
And you know, I it wasfunny because when I got to the
ballot box, I'm going to vote, right, and I was going to
vote for Greg Abbott as well assome other Republicans down ballot, and I

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just realized, you know what,I can't do it. I can't do
this anymore, and that phrase keptrepeating in my brain. I got to
the point to where I felt likethe Republican Party was not earning my vote.
And even though I was never inlove with the Republican Party, I
thought it was trashed too, justlike I do now, But I thought
it was the closest to my valuesand that it could be potentially reformed.

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A lot of people still think that, and I don't knock them. You
know, we need people trying toget them to live up to what they
say they are. But I didn'tvote for Governor Greg Abbott, you know,
I voted for Mark Tippetts's he wasa Libertarian candidate for Texas governor.
And I just realized that I waswasting my time with my platform. I

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felt that my voice and my platformcould be better used elsewhere to a different
purpose. And you know, evenwith figures of like Donald Trump and the
splash that he made, even theMagam movement, which I was never a
part of the Magam movement, butI was down with the whole anti establishment
thing, and I still am.You know that the populism that cropped up,

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you know, people wanted a rebelcause that's why they voted for Trump,
and we didn't get it, didwe. You know, Trump did
some things that I liked, youknow, he won me over on a
lot of things, but even hewasn't enough to get the Republican Party to
do what it's supposed to do,especially when it comes to rolling back the
state, limiting government, making thegovernment less intrusive in our lives. I

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became I felt like I was apolitical wanderer. So I got out of
the voting booth and then I wenthome, and that's when I started going
through what I call a political darknight of the soul. I realized,
you know, this party isn't goingto be changed from within, at least
not anytime soon. I mean,anything's possible, right, I could be
wrong, but I was just tiredof it. I was sick of it.
It was just too difficult to reallymake a change, even at the

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local level. It's very hard toget into the local GOP and actually start
doing things on the ground. That'sone of the biggest weaknesses of the conservative
movement. They don't do an onthe ground. And I'm not just talking
about registering voters, I mean actuallyhelping people in need. So I was
thinking maybe I would start checking outthe liberty movement. I had been watching

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it from afar for years, andin my mind I always said, if
I could take that movement seriously,if I could get it, if they
can get it to where I canat least take the party seriously, I
might end up jumping ship, because, like I said, I'm more of
a libertarian anyway. Conservatives still wanta bigger government than what I want,
although a lot of conservatives do wantthe same or maybe a little bit more

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than I want, and they're probablymore libertarian anyway, but they don't vote
libertarian. And I'll probably cover thaton another episode. Why don't libertarians vote
libertarian? Why do they vote Republican? That's a valid question to ask,
and there are valid arguments on bothsides of that right. So, as
far as this transformation, what Istarted doing is really just kind of abandoning

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the conservative movement. You know,I still have a lot of friends there,
most of my audience is still conservative, but I'm not going to push
the Republican Party. I'm not goingto even try to prop it up,
because to me, there's no pointto that. They haven't earned it and
they don't want it. The RepublicanParty does not want to change. You
know, A big issue for me, if you've been following me, is
as far as reaching out to blackvoters. Now, a lot of the

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base wants to do that, butthe Republican Party does not. They do
not want more black people in themovement. I'm convinced now. I'm not
talking about regular, everyday conservatives.I'm talking about the party apparatus. It
has shown that that that's not wheretheir minds are right now and probably not
ever. So I write about thisa lot in my book. But to

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me, if we want a morefree society, we have to think outside
of the duopoly, We have tothink outside of the uniparty, because it
is a uniparty. Republicans are notdifferent enough from Democrats for me to support
them. Now. On some issues, Republicans are better than Democrats. Like

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guns, they're much better than Democratthat's objectively true. I won't say that
Republicans are pro gun, because alot of them aren't, but that's objectively
true. When it comes to reformingthe criminal justice system, Democrats are better,
that's objectively true. Republicans aren't thatinterested other than the First Step Act,
what else do they What else haveRepublicans done? Nothing? And that

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was a bipartisan thing, and thatwas a good piece of legislation. I'll
actually give it to them for that. But for me, I had been
preaching about local politics for years.That was always my mantry. You have
to get involved with your local politics. And I ended up seeing a way
to do that. So let meactually, let me back up just a
little bit. So I started tryingto figure out how to use my platform.

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What should I be pushing for,what should I be writing about?
What should I be talking about?And Twitter it's called x now, but
if it's Mamma calls at Twitter,I'm gonna call it Twitter, all right,
So it's Twitter. And so Istarted doing Twitter spaces with my partner
and my significant other, Miss Donnie, the Dawn Donnie Anthony, and we

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we started doing these spaces because shewas going through the same thing that I
was going through, right, shekind of arrived there a little bit before
I did, but we'd had we'dhave a lot, we have had a
lot of conversations on this, andso we started doing what we call liberty
spaces, and we're still doing them, and a lot of people started showing
up and we both were talking abouthow, you know, maybe we should

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get more involved in the liberty movement, maybe we should start making some connections.
I already knew a lot of peoplein the liberty movement. I already
knew a lot. I knew MichaelHeyes from the Mesas Caucus. I met
him in person a couple of yearsago at the Solutionary Summit. I know
Macheterrey is a friend of mine,So it's not like it would have been
hard. But the funny thing iswe didn't have to start reaching out because
they reached out to us because theMesas Caucus took over the Libertarian Party a

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couple of years ago, and I'vebeen watching that and they were doing a
lot of things that I liked,and so that was another thing that was
pivotal in getting me to really jumpinto this movement. Now, I wouldn't
say that I'm a party guy perse, but my thing is liberty,
so and it's liberty at the locallevel. The Mesa's Caucus had rolled out

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an initiative called Decentralized Revolution, whichis really an initiative that focuses primarily on
local races. They're recruiting candidates,the recruiting people to run for local office,
to serve on campaigns, to volunteer, and to really focus on city
councils, mayor seats, judge seats, sheriff's seats, which is very important

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getting the right people in at thoseoffices so that they can push back against
a lot of the overreach that happensat the federal and even at the state
level. As far as I'm concerned, the federal government is gone. It
is mired in corruption. It isrun by the elite ruling class that governs
the Republican and Democratic parties that worktogether. We're not getting the rot out

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of that anytime soon. Even ifTrump gets another term he promises to drain
the swamp, he didn't do itthe first time around. I think he
he may want some revenge if hegets into office, he might do something.
But the president can't really do awhole hell of a lot to get
rid of that deep seated rot thatis in Washington, d C. So
what do you do. You getpeople in it at the local level who

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can push back against a lot ofthe overreach that happens, and people say,
well, that can happen because thefederal government's so powerful. I'll give
you some examples. You all rememberCOVID, right, remember when they locked
us all down. Some of youmight remember that there were sheriffs who pushed
back when states passed laws locking thingsdown requiring masks. There were sheriffs all

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across the country who said, Okay, you can pass those laws, but
we're not going to enforce it.If you don't have an apparatus that is
going to enforce unconstitutional laws that violateour natural rights, and those laws don't
mean a whole hell of a lot. Right. Here's another example given in
Illinois, they just passed an assaultweapons ban. About half of the state's
sheriffs came out and said, okay, you can pass these assault weapons laws,

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but they violate the Second Amendment,and we are not going to enforce
them. You're not going to goto people's houses and throw them in cages
or take their guns or what haveyou, so they can still have their
guns. Look at marijuana. Marijuanais illegal at the federal level. You're
not supposed to have it, butit's legal in a lot of states,
isn't it. California, Colorado andothers? Because the states were able to

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pass those laws, and they essentiallynullify what the federal government is doing.
The sheriffs that I just mentioned arenullifying what the states were doing under COVID,
and even now with the assault weaponsbanned in Illinois. That's where it
has to start. And if you'rea liberty minded person, if you call
yourself a libertarian, or even ifyou don't, this is where we have

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to start. Libertarians aren't going towin it in a federal and nation nationwide
seat for a very long time.If ever, at this point state level,
maybe you know, there's some libertariansthat have statewide offices. Some of
them run it as Republicans, someof them run as independents, some of
them run as libertarians. But wherewe can start getting wins is out at
the local level. Then we havemore of a proof of concept because people

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will see that limited government principles workand they create a freer society. So
to me, that's where I'm atnow, and that's how I got there.
And again I don't knock anybody who'sstill trying to reform the Republican Party.
I totally get it. I wasthere too, But to me,
I think that it's not going towork. Now at the local level.

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You might have some Republicans who areliberty minded. I know a few of
them. So to me, it'snot so much about the letter that's next
to the name. It's about thepolicies that they're going to promote. It's
about the principles that they're going toapply to these jobs. So I think
that the best way, again isto focus local. And that is one
of the reasons why I'm dedicating somuch of my platform to talking about what

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stuff that goes on on the ground, because this is stuff that we ignore
because we're so hyper focused on what'sgoing on in the federal government, which
is not going to help us.By the way, I mean, I'm
not saying we should ignore it.I don't. I'm a commentator. It's
my job to talk about what thepresident's doing, what Congress is doing.
But you'd be surprised, and youwill be surprised when I start telling more

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of these stories about what happens atthe local level. So I'm going to
leave it there for right now.There's still more to unpack here, and
I'll be talking more about my journeyand the things that I've been doing.
But I kind of wanted to giveyou guys an update as to where I'm
going with this platform, and Ireally hope that you guys will be coming
with me. Now, you maynot be a libertarian, or you may

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think, oh, that's crazy,I'll just want to smoke weed all day.
Well I don't really smoke weed likethat, so that's not applicable to
everybody. But there's a lot moreto it, and I'm looking forward to
the to the opportunity to educate morepeople and to when you over. Really
I'll be transparent. My objective isto win you over, because chances are
you already agree with most of itanyway, all right, fair enough,

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All I'm asking is for you tohear me out. So I'm going to
take a break. These days,it seems like everybody's talking, but no
one is actually listening to the thingsthey're saying. Critical thinking isn't dead,
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Okay, welcome on back, myfriends to a Fresh Perspective with Jeff

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Charles on the FCB Network and Igot a very interesting story about local politics
before I get into it, Andjust want to remind you to share this
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can access that by going to libertychasersdot com or if you can just go
to substack and just search for ChasingLiberty, you'll find me. Make sure
you become a subscriber. I appreciateit. So in the last segment,
I talked about my journey to whereI am right now and why I'm focusing
mainly on local politics and getting involvedin your local communities. This story is

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one of many that I will betelling to illustrate why it's so important to
pay attention to what's going on inyour local government. We always tend to
focus on at the federal and toa lesser degree, at the state level.
But realistically, if you're listening tothis podcast, I guarantee you there's
corruption going on in your local governmentthat you don't know about. Most people

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don't because we get so fixated onnational politics. So I'm going to dive
into this story from the heart ofGastonia, North Carolina. Now, i
wrote about this on RedState dot Comand I've also written about it on Chasing
Liberty Liberty, So if you wantall the full details, check out my
stuff there, but I'm gonna giveyou at least a snapshot of what went

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down. This story involves a pastor, Pastor Moses Colbert. He's a pillar
of the Gastonia community. He's hada ministry there for over two decades.
Him and his wife, and theyhave had the homeless. They provide food
and clothing and a lot of othertypes of spiritual support to the homeless,
to people who are down on hardtimes. A lot are you know,

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addicted to drugs and other substances.And he's doing what the Word says to
do, what the Bible says todo. He's helping these people, and
he's got a whole ministry. Nowin twenty nineteen, he wanted to expand
this ministry, especially because this isat the end of twenty nineteen, that's
kind of when we were getting hintsof the whole COVID thing happening, and

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in twenty twenty when it became fullblown, a lot of people needed help.
So he wanted to expand his ministryand help more homeless people. There
was a lot of crime going onin the community. There were a lot
of issues, and he wanted todo his part as a Christian leader to
help. Now he ran into ahuge challenge right now, this didn't come

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from the community. Guess where itcame from. You guessed it. It
came from the city council and themayor and people running from mayor. So
he established the Uptown Shelter again.This was in late twenty nineteen, and
he started feeding more people. Hewould house them on his private property,

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and somewhere along the line, cityofficials decided that they didn't really like this.
So it started and I interviewed PastorMoses for the article, and I
interviewed some of the other people thatare involved with helping him, and somebody
had suffered an overdose on his property. So they had to call nine to
one one to get the first respondersout. And they noticed that this building

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didn't have sprinklers. Now this isone hundred year old building, so it's
not going to have all the stuffthat newer buildings have. And this led
to a lot of other violations thatthey came up with. Some were on
the books, some were kind ofvague. They tried to get him to
do different permits and things like that, Mind you, this is private property.
Now here's what happened. They toldhim that he could not house homeless

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people on his private property because itwasn't quote unquote up to coal code.
Now, this part of North Carolinagets very cold during the winter, and
that's when this happened, and socommon sense would say, would you rather
have these people in a building thatmay not have sprinklers, or would you
rather have them out on the streetwhere they will freeze to death. And
the city council made the decision andthey said, now kick him out,

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and at least one person died frozeto death on the streets because he didn't
have anywhere to go. Obviously,this was preventable. And the other thing
is that as this whole saga wenton, he had to shut down that
shelter and he built another one againprivate property to house and feed homeless people.

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And the community got together and theybought him two trailers to use to
house people. And even then thecity had a problem with it. They
levied more fines on him. Theysaid that he needed a permit to have
again trailers on his own personal property. Every time they tried to comply and
do what they needed to do,the city just added on more things that

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they more steps that they had totake, more hurdles that they had to
get over. And mind you,they were issuing fines to him, trying
to get money out of him becausefor whatever reason they didn't want him housing
these people on his property. Now, at one point they did relent because
he kept pushing the issue. Heeven staged a march to the city.
There was a lot of backlash againstthis, and they said, okay,

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you can have on your property.They just can't stay indoors. They have
to set up camps on his property, which he let them do, and
so he had. Even when hehad paid off some of the fines,
he kept trying to get permits.They kept turning him down no matter what
he did. One day he foundout that they had imposed over sixty thousand
dollars in fines. Now, mindyou, this is because he wants to

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house people on his private property.I keep saying that he owns this.
This does not belong to the city. So I had a conversation with Pastor
Colbert, and I also spoke witha Spike Kohen. For those of you
who don't know, he was theLibertarian Party candidate for vice president in twenty
twenty. But now he has anorganization called You Are the p and they

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deal with issues just like this.When the local government is doing things that
sh that shouldn't be done, theygo out and they help mobilize the community.
They speak out at city council meetings, they do a lot of other
things. And when I spoke tohim, he's his theory and I agree
with it. It sounds to methat the city wants to position itself as
the one who takes care of thehomeless rather than the private entities coming together

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to help people. You know,one of the people who was leading the
charge and the city council against PastorMoses is actually running for mayor now.
One of the questions I asked everybodywho I interviewed about this was, Okay,
so what is the city doing ifthey don't want Pastor Moses to do
this? What's the city doing?The answer nothing, Well, yeah,

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exactly. The most they did wastry to set them up in this old,
dilapidated, nasty, old hotel thatthey didn't even want to stay in.
They ended up going back to PastorMoses because this place was so not
worth living in. I'll just putit that way. As time goes on,
he's got all these fines against him. He's been fighting against it.

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I know. They have a courtdate coming up soon, and what they're
hoping for is that the judge willrule in their favor, saying, yes,
you can have these people on yourproperty, you can have the permit.
Maybe you got to fix some thingsup here and there. And Pastor
Moses did say that, you know, there were some things that he needed
to fix up which he hadn't done, which, by the way, I
don't agree that he should have evenhad to do that, especially if you're
talking about people either being on thestreet or in a shelter with somebody who

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cares about them, with a ministrythat can provide for them, not just
materially but also spiritually. But hestill did what he needed to do to
comply. So hopefully they'll get ridof those fines. Hopefully things will work
out. But here's the thing.Government overreach that strikes closest to home is
usually done by local government. Chancesare, if you're ever going to be

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abused by the police, it's notto be the FBI or the DEA.
It's going to be your sheriff's office, which is an elected position, by
the way, or it's gonna beyour local law enforcement, which is controlled
by your city council and mayor,depending on which city and state that you're
in. In this instance, thelocal government put in place a series of

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rules, like a maze of regulationsthat make it harder for people like Pastor
Moses and others to help people inneed, which again makes me question their
motivations. If it were me,I'd be saying, wait a minute,
hold on, because common sense willtell you all kid could figure this out.
Common sense would tell you that ifsomebody wants to help people in need,

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they should be making it easier forthem to do that, and not
harder. This is why we needto focus on local politics. This is
why. Now I have plenty ofother stories like just like this, and
I'll be telling you about them.And you know, some of them I
find online. Others I find justin my community or in my network,

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like this story about Pastor Moses.But you have to really question. This
is where we should start questioning,because, especially if we're not really paying
close attention, we take this stufffor granted. We don't question this stuff.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,you need a permit to have two
trailers on your property. Oh yeah. Nobody ever stops and says, well,
wait a minute. Why why shouldthe government be able to tell you

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what you can do with your ownprivate property. If Pastor Moses's location was
trashy or not able to be livedin, I doubt homeless people will be
showing up there, right Why wouldthey? Again, we're not talking about
having a facility. That's like theFour Seasons. But if you're going to
choose between a church and dying onthe street freezing to death, what are

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most people going to choose? Right, this is just one story, and
I'll have plenty of others, andI'll probably have an update on this at
some point. But there are tonsof people in these communities who want to
do good things, and the governmenttends to get in the way. Now,
I'm not saying everybody that works inthe government is bad. There are
governments that probably wouldn't have done thisor would have found a way to help

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them. But more often than not, when you have people who have this
level of power and they know thatthey can get away with being corrupt because
nobody's paying attention, why wouldn't they, that's what they do. So I
wanted to leave you with that.Like I said, I'll be giving you
an update when I get it,and I'll have more stories like this,

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and I want to have some moreconversations about why these things happen and what
we need to do as American citizensto push back. All right, Well,
thank you very much, and Iwill see you in the next segment.
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you get your podcasts. That's AliALII. Come check out my show.
I'll see you there, all right, Jell, Welcome back to another episode
of A Fresh Perspective with Jeff Charles, where we prefer truth over narrative,
in principles over politics. Thank youguys for joining again on the FCB network.

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Here a Fresh perspective and it's timeto talk about Israel. And I'm
going to kind of delve into what'sbeen going on in Israel between the IDF,
the Israel Defense Forces and Hamas anda lot of this you probably already
know, but I kind of wantto give some some analysis. But you

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know, this is an issue thatgoes way back and it's got a lot
of different moving pieces. There's alot of history here as to even how
this how this issue came about inthe first place, And I'll probably do
a bonus episode really detailing how thePalestinian refugee crisis started at least when with

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the modern state of Israel. Again, this compt goes way back to biblical
times. So I mean, youdo plenty of episodes on this, but
I want to talk about the modernissue, but I'll put that out later.
Right now, I want to talkabout what's happening this week, and
as the world is watching and respondingin real time, I'll continue to unpack,

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you know, what's going on herebecause there's a lot of complexities,
and you know, it involves Israel, it evolves a Moss, it involves
Iron, possibly Russia, and ofcourse it involves the United States of America.
So let's start with So last thatHamas, which is the terrorist group
that is in charge of the GazaStrip. Now, mind you, Hamas

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is the government of the Gaza Strip. They a quote unquote won the election
in two thousand and seven and waselected as the government of that territory.
Now, obviously I have doubts aboutthe integrity of that election. I figure,
if we have questions about our electionshere in America, there should be
a lot of questions about this group. But suffice it to say they are
in charge. They launched a devastatingattack on Sunday, I'm sorry, Saturday

(30:34):
morning, killing a lot of people. In the first opening salvo, they
launched over five thousand rockets. Therewere over two thousand Hamas operatives who went
in and conducted ground assaults, takinghostage sausages. They killed about seven hundred
people, soldiers and civilians, whichis what Hamas does. But the difference

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between this attack and attacks in yearspriors that AMAS wasn't really all that organized
with it. You might have themcome and try to kidnap an Israeli soldier
or civilian, or take pot shotsand kill people. They always launch rockets
a few here and there. Israelhas the iron dome system that allows them

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to take out a lot of therockets that are shot, but it doesn't
get all of them, so theymight pick off two or three people here
and there every now and then.But something of this magnitude we haven't seen
in Israel in over five decades,fifty years, I mean the last time
they had this level of fighting wasduring the yam Kapur War, which was

(31:37):
in nineteen seventy three. So needlessto say, when when this first hit
the news waves, everybody knew thatthis was going to be a huge issue.
We already knew that Israel's was goingto launch a counter effective and they
did. It was swipt, therewere air raids, ground operations. The
IDF laid siege to the Gaza Strip, which is a controversial move, and

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you know, there are some validpoints to be made there on both sides
of this, but with the levelof casualties, it's going to have a
very reverberating impact, probably on therest of the region, especially since Iran
is involved. Now Iran is denyingit, but it's kind of like with
a wink and not yeah, ofcourse they're involved. There's absolutely no way

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Hamas could have launched this type ofattack without the assistance of a foreign power.
So Iran's shadow is looming large overthis whole thing, and it's been
confirmed. The Wall Street Journal putout a report talking about how higher up
officials in the Iranian regime helped Hamasplan, coordinate, and even execute the

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attack. So you've got this alliancebetween Iran in Hamas, which has been
there since Hamas was formed, Ibelieve in nineteen eighty seven. But this
is a a landmark event in thegeopolitical dynamics in the Middle East. In
the Middle East, So right nowas it stands, Israel has launched attacks

(33:12):
on Gaza, it has done thesiege. Like I said, they're also
dealing with attacks from Hesblah in thenorth and so Hesblah is based in Lebanon,
which is which borders Israel to thenorth, and they've been launching rockets.
There have been some skirmishes, notall out fighting like there is with
Hamas, but that has opened upmore speculation because if Hesbla becomes involved,

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it's gonna get real. It's gonnaget even more real. That means that
Israel has a two front war tofight. His Blah is much better equipped,
much better train than Hamas, andthat that's that's going to put put
them in a very interesting situation.Let's go to the United States. So
President Joe Biden, his administration isunder scrutiny as usual, and he's been

(33:59):
criticized for giving a kind of atepid reaction to this whole thing. Now,
you have a lot of people onthe right and on the left too,
actually, who don't want us involvedin this war. I'm one of
them. I don't think that Israelreally needs us to support them like that,
and we got to take care ofour country. But of course we're

(34:19):
going to get involved. That that'sjust that's the way it's always been.
We may not send soldiers over there, but we already sent warships to the
area, to the Mediterranean terranean Sea, and they're basically there as a deterrent
so far, just as a deterrent, but that could easily escalate again,
especially if hees blog gets involved inthis fighting. Now people are divided on

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this obviously. You've got people whoare rightly criticizing Hamas for carrying out the
attack in the first place, fordeliberately targeting civilians, putting their own civilian
civilians that are supposed to be undertheir care in danger, which they've done
for years, and there's really noredeem mean factor about them. Then on
the other side, you've got peoplecriticizing Israel. I think with this siege

(35:07):
there's gonna be a lot more criticismbecause it's preventing humanitarian aid from getting to
the area. Everybody understands that Israelhas right to defend itself, but this
always happens whenever they retaliate in someareas, they go overboard, and I
think that's going to happen here becauseof the severity of Bamasa's attack. I

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saw a report and here's the otherthing, guys, it's very difficult to
know what's real and what's fake.I mean, especially if you're on social
media and you see people report certainthings or they'll put videos out about what's
happening in Israel. Do not trustanything unless you can verify it independently.
I mean, there's a video ofan airstrike that basically blocked off the route

(35:52):
to Egypt which borders the Gaza Stripon the southwest, and people are saying,
is did that, which it soundslike and I think it's been confirmed
that they did. But when Ifirst saw it, I was like,
well, that could be footaged fromyears ago or could it just happened.
With some of these things, youdo have to wait and see, and

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if that's the case, then probablya bad move. I mean, because
some of those a lot of thePalestinian Stinians want to get out. And
you know, what we're seeing hereis a situation where governments are doing things
that hurt their own people and hurtpeople outside of their countries. Hamas is
a government for all intents and purposes, whether whether they won that election or

(36:35):
not, they're in charge and theyhaven't allowed any elections since. So in
this in this way, what thisreally brings out to me is like when
I think about this stuff, andit's tough because I think if you ask
the average Israeli and the average Palestinianwhat they want, they want peace.
They just want to do their thing. They're they're you know, especially here

(36:59):
in the West, especially if you'reon the right. I mean, I'm
seeing people make it sound like allPalestinians are Hamas. They're not. Now,
do they have a lot of support, Yes, that's true, they
do. They do have a lotof support among the Palestinians because Hamas has
positioned itself as the savior of theseindividuals and a lot of them don't have

(37:19):
a lot of access to outside information. It's almost like a North Korea type
of situation, and a lot ofthese folks are raised to hate Israel,
to raise to hate America, andHamas will use actual wrongdoing on America's part
and on Israel's part, and alsostuff that they make up to basically indoctrinate

(37:40):
these folks into growing up and believingthat Hamas is doing the right thing.
Hamas will actually hide among civilians,and they've done this for years. They'll
hide their weapons in mosques, inschools because they know that if it gets
bombed, civilians will die. Thatmakes Israel look bad, that makes the
international community. You look at themsideways, and it's again, it's a

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horrible situation, and they're psych Isaid before, I mean not all Palestinians
are Hamas, and not all Israelisare really radical in what they want to
do. Because there are people inIsrael who just want to white Palestine out
and just take over all that landand salt the earth and all that stuff.
And unfortunately there are people on theright here in the United States who

(38:23):
want that to happen. You'll seepeople talking about turning the whole region into
glass or into a parking lot.About half of the Palestinian population in Gaza
are under the age of eighteen.They're kids, So you're talking about massacring
kids, which makes absolutely no sense. If you're advocating for that, you
are Hamas just on the other side, you're doing exactly what they want to

(38:46):
do to Israel. So to me, you know, I am a firm
believer in the non aggression principle,which says that you do not initiate violence
against someone else if they're not initiatingviolence against you. And the keyword is
initiate, so you don't start theviolence. But if somebody initiates against you,
you have the right to defend yourself. So I don't deny Israel that

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right. At the same time,I don't want innocent people on either side
to die. And I think that, you know, especially in twenty twenty
three, with American politics, wetend to lose our humanity and I see
a lot of people losing their humanityif they ever had it in the first
place. Realistically, and to me, this is a tough nut to crack.

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If you know the history of thisconflict. There are no easy answers.
It may never it may never getresolved. Hopefully it does, but
it's just a really sad situation.You know, We've got people on the
right who want us to give moreaid to Israel. Nikki Haley, you

(39:52):
should a warning. And then you'vegot people on the left who are just
taking the opportunity to bash Israel forpolitical purposes, and nobody's really looking at
the reality that these are two governmentsthat are doing this and every government is
corrupt, and yes, that includesIsrael. It's okay to say that sometimes
a lot of times governments do notrepresent their people the way that they should.

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So as this conflict unfolds, there'sgoing to be a lot of new
revelations about what's going on. Thisis how it always goes. I expect
this to go on for at leasta few weeks, maybe even longer,
depending on how things shake out.Benjamin Nettan Yahoo Is, a Prime minister
of Israel, has said he's goingto wipe out Hamas this time. And

(40:39):
again I don't have a problem withgoing after Hamas because they actually did the
deed. So, I mean,in some are arguing that they could have
approached this more surgically instead of justopening up a siege and just bombing and
you know, killing innocent people,and that's probably true because Israel has done

(40:59):
that before in other instances. Theyhave hunted down Nazis and people who have
carried out terrorist attacks against Israel allover the world without killing this in people.
So they can do it. I'mnot saying it's easy, but it
can happen. So hopefully they areable to minimize the number of civilian deaths
because Hamas has responsibility in that too, because they did start this thing.

(41:20):
They did then you kind of getinto the debate, and I'm not going
to get into it here, butit is worth talking about at some point
the things that led up to this. I'm not saying that the Israelis who
die deserve to die, but theIsraeli government has done some pretty messed up
things to the Palestinian people. Someof it I understand because there are a
lot of terrorists in that area whothat they don't want They don't want freedom

(41:44):
for Palestinians, they want to eliminateIsrael. There's a difference and Hammas they
say it straight out. It's intheir charter that they'll tell you, Yeah,
our goal is to wipe out theJews. When you have something like
that, it's very difficult to administerthat territory when you're surrounded by enemies,
said the criticisms about the Gaza Stripbeing basically an open air prison where people

(42:05):
it's very hard for people to comeand go. It's true and it's wrong,
and I'm only scratching the surface becauseit even gets even more complex than
that. I mean, there wasa time when Israel really occupied the Gaza
Strip who were building settlements. Thatwas a huge issue. I think that's
still an issue in the West Bank. But you know, in early two
thousand, Aril Sharon, who wasthe Prime Minister of Israel back then,

(42:28):
pulled everybody, pull all the Israelisout of Gaza, thinking okay, well
they want this land, we'll letthem have this and then they'll leave us
alone. Well that didn't happen.So on both sides, there are people
who are very much invested in keepingthis conflict going people on the Israeli side,
people on the Palestinian side, peopleoutside of that whole paradigm. I
mean, I think there's Americans whowant that stuff that wanted to keep going

(42:51):
on. There are elements in theair world, which by the way,
it was the Arab world that causedthe Palestinian refugee crisis in the first place.
A lot of people I'll tell you, oh, well, just Israel,
just Jews just came there to juststarted kicking everybody out. No no,
no, no, no no,that's not what happened, and so
I'll but I'll do a bonus episodeon that to explain that. Now,

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that doesn't mean that Israel's actions sincethen have been stellar, but they weren't
the ones who started it. Soit's a very I wish I had more
of a solution here, but it'svery difficult to have a solution. I
mean, realistically, the elements thatwant the wars to continue need to not
be in power, and that reallyI think that's the only way it's going

(43:34):
to happen. And it's very unfortunate. And again, this is going to
get worse and it's probably going tospill to other nations, especially if Hezbla
gets involved. Israel will go intoLebanon to take care of business if they
have to. There are even reportsof rockets being fired from Syria, which
borders Israel on the northeast, sowe don't know who did that yet.

(43:54):
That could have been his blood,that could have been another organization. This
has the potential to get really outof hand and the Middle East situation has
always been a powder kick. Butmy heart is for the victims of this,
the innocence civilians who are getting killed, who are getting maimed, who

(44:15):
are getting kidnapped, beaten, raped. It's happening, and I don't think
that we should lose sight of itbecause in this whole, in the grand
scheme of things, those are thepeople who are going to suffer the most.
But we'll be talking more about this. There will be more developments hanging
there, and I'll catch you onthe foot side, hot topics, the

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(45:02):
fresh perspective with Jeff Charles on theFCB Network, where we preferred truth over
narratives and principles over politics. Nowwe're going to get a little controversial with
this one. Well, it maynot be that controversial considering my audience,
but in the grander scheme of things, this is one of those hot topic

(45:22):
issues and it's something that I writeabout a lot. So if you follow
me and if you read my stuffon Red State or Chasing Liberty my sub
stack, or if you followed meon social media on Twitter x at Jeff
Charles Junior, then you'll know thatI talked about this a lot. And
it has to do with the debateover gender affirming care, especially in education

(45:45):
and in the medical field, andthe transgender issue has been going on for
quite a while. It's been ahot button topic, but it didn't really
get that much play until people realizedthat there's a movement to push this up
on children. Now, if youlisten to me, you know, you
know, I don't accept the ideathat this isn't happening, because it is.

(46:07):
I see way too many stories.I've written way too many stories on
this. It is happening. Theyare pushing or gender ideology on kids in
schools and elsewhere. Now, this, now, what this is bringing about
is this movement for gender affirming care. And I put that in quotes,

(46:28):
gender affirming care, because I don'tbelieve that it's actually care. It doesn't
help the mental health of children,and a lot of the data on it
is very new, at least inthe United States, but in Europe it's
not. And I'll get to thatin a second. But when I talk
about gender affirming care, what thatis is helping people transition to the opposite
gender. Adults go through it andkids go through it. It can be

(46:52):
a social transition where the kid mightuse a different name that's opposite sex,
they may wear some clothes that arethe opposite sex, and that's hours agoes.
The next step is a medical transitionwhere you're introducing puberty blockers, hormone
treatments designed to stop puberty, stopthe body from developing the way it's opposed
to, and that is supposed tosomehow help the mental health of a child

(47:15):
who is dealing with gender dysphoria,which in the vast majority of these cases,
they're dealing with other mental health issuesthat aren't being paid attention to because
the impetus is to rush them intothis and to convince and really emotionally blackmail
parents and to accepting this. Soafter medical it can also go surgical to

(47:36):
where you're actually cutting off body partsand doing surgery to supposedly transition the individual
to the opposite sex. So,just for those who don't know, that's
what. That's in a nutshell,what gender affirming care is. Now.
What I really want to talk about, though, are the de transitioners.

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And you may have heard a lotof a lot of these folks, people
who go through gender affirming care,especially as children. Then they get older,
then they regret it and they wantto reverse what happened. In a
lot of these cases, it's irreversible, especially if they went through surgery,
that's an irreversible procedure. If theywent on puberty blockers and hormones, if

(48:19):
they've been on them for a longtime, it can't be reversed. Now,
the proponents of gender affirming care willlie to you and tell you that
all all this stuff is is completelyreversible. You just stop taking them and
blah blah blah blah, they'll goback to the normal gender. No,
in a lot of cases, thatdoesn't happen. In most cases, it
doesn't happen. And most of thisis affecting little girls. It happens to
boys too, but for whatever reason, more girls are embracing the opposite gender

(48:45):
identity than biological males. So youhave people who again have mental health issues,
depression, anxiety, you know,eating, disorders things like that,
and then if they're with the wrongmedical professional, they'll just say, oh,
well, you probably have gender dysphoria. Let's put you on some puberty

(49:07):
blockers. And I'm not exaggerating whenI say that, by the way,
that's not a hypothetical. That actuallyhappens, and you'll learn that when you
really read the stories of the detransitioners. There's a lot of documentaries out there,
so I came across an article andI wrote about this too. There
is now a law firm called CampbellMiller Pain and I actually met one of

(49:28):
these guys a few months ago inAustin at an event. They open up
a brand new law firm specifically torepresent people who de transition. So these
are people who who were convinced togo through these gender transitions as children by
medical professionals, and then it causesa lot of damage. It makes your
mental health worths, and then lateron they regret it and they want to

(49:52):
detransition, and now they're suing thesepeople. Now they're suing these professionals because
in a lot of cases, theyare not not being made aware of the
potential consequences of going through these treatments. A lot of times they will convince
the parents by basically telling them,if you don't allow your son or daughter

(50:12):
to go to the opposite sex,they will probably kill themselves. It's emotional
blackmail because a lot of times peoplesay, well, why do the parents
keep allowing this stuff? Do theynot care about their kids? Yeah,
they care about their kids. That'swhy they do it. Because they're being
manipulated and in a lot of casesthat they're holding information back, they're not
really exploring other options. Before thegender firming care model became popular, there

(50:36):
was more of a therapeutic There ismore of a tough therapy approach to this,
more of a wait and see approach. Why because eighty to ninety percent
of kids dealing with gender dysphoria endup growing out of it without the use
of any kind of medical treatments alot of times without even a lot of
therapy because it's a phase that theygo through. So there's no reason to
rush these kids into these treatments.So when I'm looking at this, I'm

(51:02):
seeing you know, a lot ofd transitioners are finding lawsuits. That's why
this law froom was established. Theyare representing a woman named Priscia Moseley,
who I'm not going to get graphicof about it, but she went through
surgery. They cut off some partsand she went in there because she was
dealing with depression, dealing with selfharm issues, and the medical professional said,

(51:25):
no, no, you got genderissues. We got to get you
through these treatments. We got todo these puberty blockers. He was her
first patient for this type of issue, and he wanted to start getting into
this field because it is very lucrative. You can make a lot of money
doing gender affirming care. So sheissuing him and others. And there are

(51:46):
a lot of DVD transitioners who aresuing their doctors because they weren't adequately informed.
And that's going to make the difference. That's what's going to have to
happen if because you know, whenit comes to pushing this stuff in schools,
it's hard to fight back against that. We should be and a lot
of us are. But I thinkthat when the real change is going to

(52:08):
happen, when there are tons oflawsuits and they're starting, these people start
hitting them in their pocketbooks. It'slike my friend Gabrielle Clarkoway says, soue
they draws off if you see iton Twitter. She says that all the
time because this is her thing,This is her main mission to push back
against this gender ideology that's being pushedon kids. So I want to step

(52:30):
back for a second. There area lot of states passing laws that are
outlawing gender affirming care for minors,and there's a debate about that, you
know, for should parents have theright to do this with their children?
Sure? They not. I meanI lean towards no, because I think
it's abuse. You wouldn't You wouldn'tlet a parent beat up their kids with

(52:52):
a baseball bat, right, You'reviolating their rights. So but the thing
is is that there are states passingthese laws, and then there are states
like California that are making it easierfor children to even get these procedures without
their parents' consent. But even insome states where it's allowed, there are
medical facilities who have stopped offering thesetreatments in Missouri and North Dakota. And

(53:17):
the reason why is because those statesdid not pass laws banning gender affirming care
for kids, but they did passlaws that give them the right to sue
at a later age. Into adulthood, and I can't remember what the age
was, what it was like maybein your early twenties. Now you can
sue like up until your thirties,forties, and fifties, and the liability

(53:42):
is there. And to me itsays something, well, if you think
these treatments are so beneficial, whyare you afraid of getting sued? Could
because you know that there's a goodchance that a big chunk of these children,
if not most of them, ifnot all of them, will end
up reading it later at some pointin their life and they can hold you

(54:04):
accountable because you didn't do what youwere supposed to do to actually treat their
issues. So this is a positivesign to me, I think, being
able to use the legal system toprotect your rights because they basically defrauded you.
I mean, if these medical professionalswere not honest about what you were
going to go through and the possibleconsequences, they committed fraud to get your

(54:27):
money and to put you through ahorrible procedure. So I think this is
a very positive step. Unfortunately,it means that there's going to be a
lot more detransitioners because a lot ofpeople are going to fall victim to this
before they actually start filing lawsuits.By the way, this is already happening.
Happening in the United Kingdom. Ithink there's over one thousand people filing
lawsuits against medical facilities for doing thesetreatments and not being honest enough front about

(54:52):
it. So let's switch gears tothe international landscape. Because people who think
that they should be using gender affirmingcare on kids, they argue that it's
been shown to be beneficial, thatthere are all these studies showing how wonderful
it is. Well, first off, that's a lie. The studies that
have happened in America, there haven'tbeen quite enough of them to really establish

(55:15):
that. But overseas it has beennow the United Kingdom, Sweden, Finland,
Norway, France, those nations havebeen doing for firming care way before
it became cool in the United States, like decades, so they actually have
a lot more data. And eachand every one of the countries that I

(55:36):
just listed off and even more havemoved away from gender affirming care. They're
doing more of therapy, they're relyingmore on other types of treatments rather than
just putting them on puberty blockers andhormones or cutting off body parts, because
they found out that when these peoplebecome adults, they are way more likely

(55:57):
to commit suicide. I believe thestudy from Sweden showed that they were about
thirty times more likely to commit suicideafter becoming adult if they went through gender
affirming care as a kid. Wehaven't caught up to that yet, although
we shouldn't need to because we've alreadyseen that this is damaging from the other

(56:19):
studies. But again, it's abig business. It is a very big
business. You can make a lotof money by being a medical professional who
does these types of treatments. Soit's unfortunate, but I think that eventually
this battle will be won. Butthe question is how many more children are
going to fall victim to this,How many more people are going to lose

(56:40):
their lives. Even if they don'tcommit suicide, they'll never be the same
because of what's been done to them. You know, some might be lucky
and maybe they stopped early enough andthey can still develop the way that they're
supposed to, but there's going tobe a lot who don't. And as
much as they tried to silence thedetransition, they're still getting out there.

(57:00):
I mean, they were all overthe country last year during legislative sessions to
testify in front of state legislatures abouthow this treatment method has ruined their lives.
So I think more people are goingto get out there, and I
think that's a good thing, eventhough the circumstances are bad. But when

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this lawsuit start flying, this businessmodel will not be nearly as lucrative at
as it is right now. Thiswill be especially true even for schools if
they because a lot of school districtshave policies that specifically require teachers to lie
to parents about gender identity issues.So if there's a little Susie she's thinking

(57:44):
that she might be a boy,or she's confused about her gender, the
teacher won't tell the parents about it, and they can even start helping to
facilitate the social transition. In somestates, they can even startle the puberty
blockers without the parents knowing or consenting, or if the parents do find it,
it's too late because they weren't tellingthem out front. There's gonna be
lawsuits. There are a ready parentssuing for that, by the way,

(58:07):
and I'm not sure how those willgo. I think they'll they'll go well,
because you can make the case thatyou are violating the rights of a
parent to parent their child as asee fit, and you have the state
trying to take over in that area. They're not gonna win that back eventually.
So yeah, I mean, asmuch as I'm not into lawsuits,
sometimes you have to use them andsometimes they are valid. And when you

(58:30):
have a case where you have amedical professionals, when you have the education
system doing things to your kids thatyou either don't know about or don't consent
to, or you're not informed enoughand they're manipulating you, yeah, they
should have to face consequences for that. So I'm gonna leave it there.

(58:50):
I'll give you more updates as thingscome along. Thank you for listening,
and I'll yeah, I'm the Thishas been a presentation of the FCB podcast

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