Episode #14- Special Guest CT Artist Mike Nash Real I...Tune In!! We talk about many things Hip Hop!!

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All right, d n J podcast. We are back another week, another
episode. You know how we do. We are back. Big Jay's in
the building. It's one Big Jaywho's going on not much. Man,
feeling better today. The weather,it's been better. That's about the weather.
Every show he goes a little bitcrazily. Today it was a yeah,
today was a beautiful day. Manin the building. Today we got

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Mike, the one only Mike NashReal I d that's that's how you say
your name, the whole like MikeNash real ID. Mike is Mike Nash
real life. They had me droppedthe d oh. Yeah, it's kind
of funny, but yeah, pawson there. Yeah, super Bowls.
So what's going on? Man?A long time don't see man? All
right, Man's well, good tosee you. Man. I'm good man.

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Maintaining man, you know, Ican't complain too much. Still doing,
still doing me, still doing themusic. All right. It's so
So if you guys haven't heard ofMike Nash Real Life, it is on
Spotify. So what are the platformstogether? I'm prettube. Yeah, it's
pretty much everywhere Apple Music, um, anywhere you stream music. That's type
in Mike Nash Real Lie and umyeah, I got three, you know,

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pretty dope albums out there. Igot a bunch of singles out there,
um some videos on YouTube, somegreat songs out there. Appreciate that.
Appreciate that. For somebody who doesn'tknow what type style who you are,
I'm I'll tell you some nicest brother, what type of style music are
you? What do you do?Or your rapper or because I kind of

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got yeah, yeah, pretty muchpretty much hip hop artists. I mean,
I guess you could say you couldsay I'm a rapper, um more
of a lyricists and stuff, youknow, and trying to try to keep
it with the essence and stuff,trying to keep it um of course,
move my age and stuff. I'mnineties boombap or whatever. But you know,
I respect, I respect the peoplethat keep up with the time as
long as they do it right.I mean, there's you know, I

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always say we had whack rappage backin our day, but off stage,
but right we but we didn't putthem on a cover of Source magazine.
No exactly, we didn't, youknow what I mean. That's that's that's
the difference between then and now.It's like we're publicizing the people. That's
like not doing good music. Man, But they're not doing good music.
But they're they're doing numbers. They'redoing difference, yes, and it sucks

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because hip hop was never about that. When it first started. Hip hop
was about, you know, makingmusic and telling the story. Being original
was I'm not that old, butstill being original was super key. From
the excuse me from the words ofthe Juice Crew. You know, there's
a sign at the door, nobiting aloud. If you didn't read it,

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I suggest you do something, you'llbe stranded, just like Caruso,
you know. But it was likeyou know, someone someone ended up,
sounded like somebody. It was likebe it was it was. It was
something. I remember Lords of theUnderground they had a small I don't know
if it's actual beat, but theyhad a small beet for Onyx. When
Honest came out, they sounded justlike Lords the Underground and they had a

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song about it, whow Forgot?Here comes the Lords. Listen to that
song, Here comes the Lords.That was too. They say some stuff.
It sounds that they talk about Onyx. Let's turn on the radio.
This this bout that sounds like it'sI forget the rap because now I'm drawing
a blank because obviously you're talking aboutsomething you dropped blank. Yeah. Nah,
it felt like it was towards honestat the same time that this is

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I ain't gonna from And they theythey, they came and surprised everyone,
like it came with the baldheads andstuff, and you know, I'm baldhead
by default forty but um, yeah, nah, they don't mean death jam
off the red people, Like,who the hell are these people and stuff?
You know what I mean? Theyheard them rap, It's like,
what the hell? Yeah, SoMike wow, um a very long time

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man. I'm gonna say that Iwrote my first rhyme in nineteen eighty nine
and um yeah, man, Inever stopped. Man. I mean,
it's some hiatus is here and therebecause life. Life has to be life,
you know what I mean. Youknow, I'm a man, I'm
a father first and stuff, youknow what I mean. So, you
know, being in being in Connecticutand stuff is kind of hard. Being
the corridor between New York and Boston. It's like, you know, they'll

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just skip right past us and stuff. We have to you have to be
that much hard three times it's dopeand with the driver and with the grind
and stuff like that. But eventhat's not enough, you know what I
mean. I mean, living Connecticut, I've known a couple of dope rappers.
I mean, uh few shot out, a few few people in auto
bots, a couple of a coupleof other rappers that I've heard Christmas.

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Even if you're in Connecticut, youknow one Apathy? Um damn that's u.
Yeah, you've got another slept on. I mean you you you google
this dude, man Apathy, andhe's got his schedule locked from like now
to like two thousand twenty six.He'sn't but he's overseas. Yeah again,

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love it over there were the spiritualSweden progue Germany. I'm like, wow,
this dude doing this thing. Ijust I want to visit UK Germany
because of that reason, the factthey loved the real hip hop over there
or that we do here in theStates. Another person went out there probably
I think he went out there,never came back. Jabru the damages.
Shout out to Jabru the damage.And he went to Germany, married the
German out there, and he's out. He's he lives in Germany and stuff

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so so so so I don't Idon't know. I know hip hop,
I don't know much. I don'tget into depth for it. So you're
saying, overseas they appreciate American hiphop more than but their own. They're
appreciating the real hip hop that wewas raised off of the nineties. They
have their own music, they havethey of course, they have their their

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their new waves, they have theirdrillish type stuff or whatever. But for
the most part, they love thatreal, that real stuff, man,
you know what I mean, notthat it's not some of that corner ship
were listening to today. Yeah,yeah, definitely people that tore over there
a lot. I see it already, the rugged man, I see the
mortal technique always over there. Imean, nothing to guess the rap out

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today. But like I said,money, I'm gonna said yeah, But
I like, I don't know,it should be a different genres. I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna rap it. Could it could be, yeah,
some some kind of some kind ofsuffing like that away from the originals or
the ogs, because yeah, westarted the yea they started yeah, and

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and and trust me, there isthere's still a market for the you know,
for the ogi rappers, for theunderground stuff. Griselda pretty much reopened
the doors stuff when they were whenthey were together. Yeah, so I
mean there is a marketing and peopleare nowadays people underground wrappers are making money
because of the streaming and stuff thingsthat they do with stuff. Merch is

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real big and stuff, you knowwhat I mean. And um, I
want to get some merchant prevorite undergroundartists. Oh yeah, yeah, I
got my Cannibis hat upstairs and myrecord. But yeah, overseas it's um
you know, shut out the peoplelike DJ doo Wop you know what I
mean, shout out with him andhe goes out there at least once a
year. He brings a z withhim. The damage are out there.

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He brings um Smith and Weston shoutout to act the beating nuts over there.
And you gotta see other people.Got to see the videos. I
mean, these people are out theresinging the song. These are young kids.
Are packed stadiums like a full stadium, but these are yeah, you
don't. You don't see that shitout here in like California, those old

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school represent You gotta go overseas tosee him. You you can see they
play. Like I said, Ihave to be an ext drama again right
now, Like right now with thefifty years of hip hop, there's a
lot of things going on the rockbelts. So if you wanted to see
him Mortal Technique, he has tobe featured with, like but just somebody
else. They're paying tribute to trickcalled Quests. They're doing the whole segment

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with boot Camp coming click shout outto boot Camp, the whole boot Camp.
They're kind of like they're kind oflike unspoken out of the existence.
Yeah, Pall, I mean peopledon't talk about them enough. You know
what they have to super impact.Shout out to people that semerging back from
that like rock Nets monstering Autumn.But back to your question, Jay,

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like more Technique. If you followthem on the socials, you'll see that
he has some tourists in the US, but it's usually out West mostly.
Yeah that's danger swamp. Yeah,but still like they're still performed. You
know, I went to he'll neversell out, He'll never sell out a
stadium, No, definitely, neverset and we're past those days underground artists

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like that setting out the stadium.Yeah, because it's not not that he's
not relevant anymore. It's just notpopular enough for anybody. And then people
don't know when they showing up toa certain places. I just I still
don't understand. How can you listento rap now and then still listen to
rap then, Like, I don'tlisten to rap now because I just I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna hate.Like I said, I kids can't stand
it, yeah already chan, Imean, like, however, you get

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your money whatever, there's no Ijust I just start getting I like the
storytelling. I like the bars,and just I like real hill. You
don't want to hear something you're likeyou still? I mean, yeah,
you want to catch it. Youwant to catch it on the first as
soon as it comes out of hismouth. You want to catch the bar
you don't have. You don't wantto have to rewind it, like why
is he mumbling? Exactly? Youdon't want to have to rewind it five

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times. You got people like um, you know, twenty one Savage and
these people and stuff here Quarterback Black. You know they got this song.
You know, I just want torock. And then not even a month
later, you got a little babyoh, dub Baby, I mean,

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shout out to a little baby.I fuck with him. Dub Baby coming
out, I don't know, makeit get a booty. I mean,
I don't even want to say thewhole hook. But it's the same field
joint again. Cookie cutters, Icall them cookie cuts and they're they're they're
they're just trying to ride that wave. Man. And did you notice not
the rappers their biting beats off fromwhole school already. But they made,

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they're getting they're cleared. But it'stoo early. I mean, it's too
quick. There's some that's too early. There's yeah, there's something that are
too early, and there's something thatyou know, the artists and the labels
are getting with the artists and gettingthem, getting them to a bag of
some sorts. Shout for that.This was all about making the money.

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And then again, I don't hateon anybody making money. The baby,
the baby. I'm not big fansmaking money. I don't care. I
just don't like the music. Idon't think it should be called hip hop.
That's my personal opinion. They gotthey gonna come with different genre.
There's something different. I've always said, the club hoop, club rat I
don't know. So that's why theyplayed the club go through a bar of
the club. That's what they're gonnaplay that rat. Yeah. Yeah,

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you have to go on to abarrow club on a certain day to hit
the old school stuff. And it'scalled old school night. Yeah, it's
called exactly. Exactly has to bea theme in order to get people to
come to show. But then again, when they say throw about how how
far are they going back, they'reprobably only going back to early two thouars
start playing Melly or Paul Wall.They're not going that's far back to playing

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We're Carress when rock Cam all theall the and all that. Huh.
But they're playing the early two thousands. Like, that's not old school.
You gotta go. You gotta gofarther than that. I mean, if
you go and go early. Imean I've been. I've been to a
bar right for happy I all onetime. This isn't one of these times
over here and we're going and thenwe're gonna play some old school hip hop,
right and they're playing Nelly Ride withme. Yeah, yeah, like

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I appreciate it for what it is. Yeah yeah, yeah, I say,
like you know, right there intwo thousands and stuff or whatever and
stuff. You know, I wasaway for a little while whatever from ninety
eight to two from to two thousands. So I came home two thousands or
whatever, kind of like ready forthe world and stuff. You know,
we ain't going to come up comingout in the city. And that's when

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um doctor Jayson Dog had that ya. Yeah, I mean that helling it,
you know what I mean. Andit seemed like Jay and all them
no disrespect or whatever. It's kindof like the East Coast turning back on
hip hop and like handed it toAtlanta, just kind of handed it to
you know, Jamaine depin, youknow, shout out to ja Jaane depreting
all them and so so deaf andall that. But Ti added some substance.

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He was actually one of the mostone of the lyrical ones and stuff
coming out of there. I mean, his first album was called trap Music.
He pretty much innovated that whole thingand stuff. But you know,
the innovator. Yeah, all thethings that came along with it. I
mean, I guess they had funwith it, the lean with it,
pop with it and all that.You know, they are Daffy's a young
gang Twins and all that back thenwhen it came out, I hit it.

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Now when I hear you have that, I see it like this nostalgic.
That's what it is. Yeah,you don't. You don't ride a
roller coaster every day. You don'tgo to an amusement park. So it's
kind of like you know, I'lltake that right so real quick. Before
we got way off topic for youcoming up. You know writing music.

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Your first song you wrote was aneighty nine. Who was your biggest influences
back then? Good question? Imean d at that time, the obvious
rock, ham rock of course,coolg raps, Yeah, Carress Swan,
the whole Juice crew, Heavy DayShout, not the Heavy Day. Don't

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get enough, don't get enough problem, doesn't get enough Love. One of
my favorite songs ever, This Dun'tCurse This Heavy d PE trying a whole
bunch of guys home p rock productionat all God, and that song is
so dope because they all go inthey wrap, you know, some serious.
None of them are cursing. That'swhat makes it so fire. I
love that song. You guys haven'theard it out there? Go check it

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out. Heavy d Don't Curse,Don't curse real don't you tip is on
there, Grampoo. But like yousaid, rock it's such a great song,
move on that I think what heproduced it? Yeah, he um,
it's kind of crazy because Big Daddycame to Man, it's like r
A W. I wrote that.I wrote those lyrics line by line,

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and I used to read it andput like perform it in front of the
mirror like you know what I mean, like a W terrorists like ridiculous.
And that's how I got like intothe writing, you know what I mean,
because I used to just listen tojust listen and listen and listen.
I mean, my history goes farback. I mean I was born and
I was born in Bridgeport, butreal quick we moved to Puerto Rico.

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I was four years old. Theonly English I really knew was Robber's Delight
song. So so that he thathe wanose out there used to be like
read. I used to go Iused to go ahead, and they used

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to give me quarters like I usedto make money. Yeah. It was
honestly yeah yeah, yeah yeah.So it's like it never left you know
what I mean, it never leftme and stuff from there and went to
the Bronx until like fifth grade started. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
where I really got my vibe.Man, really b boys stuff. I
was that little dude coming out inthe battles, breakdancing and stuff. My

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brothers shout out to West. Usedto do the graffiti on the trains and
all that stuff, and like welived it, like you know what I
mean, Oh yeah, used tobreak. Yeah it's hard hard him see
him doing that enough, I guesshe did. I guess he did well.
I always say, you know,it's it's a shame that that you

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know, that was the thing thattechnology though, like you know, just
imagine, but just imagine if wehad technology back then and we actually could
right now, you just gotta takemy word for it. I can talk
about back in, I can talkabout some episodes. I can talk about
some scenarios. We got a videoproof. Now you didn't take my word,

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you know what I mean. ButI'll be know now it's like all
work. But look look at himlove and google that and then you know
what I mean. So it's likeour error. I think it was like
the dopest still man, it is, But I said, we just hearsay
right now. We grew up inthe nineties. I love the eighties.
I love the nineties. Yeah,I loves after like oh six, I

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started hating a lot of stuff,but like, I loved a lot of
stuff from the eighties nineties and likethe best errors. Like I'm a big
fan. I like all that.I was fan me a little bit to
appreciate. It was our jay z. He was our yeah, exact exactly
what you know what I mean.I mean he couldn't go smooth and then

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he could all super hard and whateverand stuff. But yeah, shout out
to her man. So now togo back to you, you have a
song with Crooked Eye it. Ohyeah, shout out to King Crooked Crooked
shout out YEA real quick a storyon that we worked together for a little

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bit crood wish no mean might worktogether for a little bit, uh a
few years ago. And then Imean again, I'm not big into local
rappers, but I didn't. Iknow a little bit more now that I
did back then. So I wentin to work one day and it's like,
hey, it used to be arapper, And I was like,

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great, yeah, whatever, yeah, another one, another one. This
is like a real story. Thisis like real shit, real story.
So I was like, oh,I worked, that's what's suck whatever.
And that's when I was working atthe other building. We used to have
two buildings. So I went backto the other building. I said,
guys, fin trash, just music, garbage whatever, and this is like
real tongue and I was like,let me just such some music. You

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say you have some kink, crookedwhatever. Back then it was a crookodie
and I was let me check itup. I kid you not. That
whole day for eight hours straight whileI was at work, Joe Catalog was
on play. It was it wason player. I was like, actutely
pretty good. I was shot andI felt like shit, damn, I

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thought this guy was garbage. Wellno, no, no, you are
right too, because like I said, there's there's more, you know,
there's there's there's less of the peoplewho actually have it, and there's more,
you know what I mean, Likepeople that rap that you're like,
you definitely don't got it. Yeah, but if you've been a rappers like
this guy rap, even if youdon't make it big, you can still
rape to be a good rapper.Yeah, And then you know that's that's

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the thing, like where we're fromor whatever and stuff. There's a lot
of hard about being from Conneticut.Yeah, it's hard because you know,
everyone wants to be that one.Yeah, you know what I mean right
there? Yeah, and New Yorkovershadows everybody. But I mean Boston's there
too, but they don't have muchthat I have many. There's a few.
They are good. There's rap fromRhode Island. There's a lot of

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good shot out to Meldi's and allthem out there in Boston doing it.
Man from mass I like Jordan Lucas, it's one of the best out rights.
Yeah, there's a bunch. IfI had to think about it,
I probably couldn't come up with somebodyfrom the best from Masks. I would
probably enjoining it from Masks. Soso the most complete. Yeah. So

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when you so when you started rappingand all that, what was one rapper
you could continuously play his album andjust get influenced the like thoughts, just
try and mold it into your own. Yeah, we all do that.
Even like even if you playing basketball, if you're like a certain player,
you're gonna try and mold the gamearound that person. It's samething with rap,

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like a certain rapper you're gonna tryand mold your style around that person.
Yeah, it's just um damn,I already sounded like anybody. Um,
but your voice is very your voiceis very distinct. Part of the
reasons why I liked it. Thisis why, you know, one of
the reasons why I can is voicesare different. So your voice stands out,
so you know it's you on thetrack. Yeah, that's that's what
I appreciate it. Samething would bereal and yeah, yeah, that's what

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I kind of focused on too,and stuff. I'm you know, just
making sure that I don't sound likeanybody, you know what I mean,
and even a voice wise or whateverin style because you get those people that
are talking. You remember when Fabcame out, it was like, oh,
you know, May said he wantshis voice back sound like yeah,
yeah, they sound the like whenthey shout out the FAB. So what

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what your trouble was? It wasit you said rock Cam, I'm gonna
say rock Cam. And so faras like where I got my like my
style from and stuff and really moldbelieve it or not even on from the
hood and stuff like that, liketribal quest, native tongue, you know,
we're really into that and stuff,you know what I mean, so
far as getting into the beats andthe style that should be for that beat,
not just not just a rap tothe beat, but what style should

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you use for that beat? Likeyou know, and you know, kind
of focused on that and yeah,had mad people being like, Yo,
you don't sound like nobody. Youdon't sound like nobody. I'm like,
who check? Who check? That'sawesome, so what I mean? But

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yeah, that's why I like umabout hip hop, manu. It's awesome
at least a different impression on everybody. I mean, no, no,
just like I said nowadays, likeI said, I don't, I don't
hate on the rappers nowadays. Ijust prefer back then music. And it
was just it was it's easier tolisten to, it's easier to follow.
You can just you can break itdown a lot more each than right now.
You just you gotta play fifteen timesor even get a punchline. Just

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that's if there is a pure yeah, if there's a punchline. Anyway,
I mean, there's very few newguys now that you can actually listen to
him. There's always gonna be somethingthere. Joiner Drake cole Ken drinking.
Oh yeah, I love but otherpeople that spect on. Chris Ravers is
another one that's really good. There'sthe underground guys. I mean yeah,

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even like not for Nothing, maybehe's not that on the ground. But
Dax is fire. I really,I really like Dax. But I don't
feel like he didn't get as muchappreciation as he should because then he's not
just a lot of guys like I'myou might be I'm crazy for saying this.
I think he's better than Joiner.I think he's better than Rivers.
Das nice that you listen to hisfreestyle like like I'm like I said,

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it's just it's my opinion. Solike on the What's Popping remis that the
still Dre remix, like in theRap God Remakes the Rap God Part two,
the Joker that he goes in.He's he does it all by himself,
like literally all by himself, andhe has nobody he has. He
has his own little team, theydo his own little videos. His videos
cost like five hundred bucks to make. Like it's just nuts. He was

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saw And I think Dax is nice, and I really like that Dax is
He's original, he's humble as hell, and he spits bars like bar songs
that I do like. But tosay that he's better than Joind, He's
not a he's not as big asJoiner, but but Dax Dax is a
monster. He had the viewers.How YouTube views are up there? Yeah,

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because because because he's because he's he'srapping over in the street beats over
beat. But like if you heardwhat he said over that, what's popping
remakes beat? I haven't heard yet, man, It's ridiculous. The only
thing about Joiner and he's he's veryepic. Man. I don't know if
you guys saw his last video andstuff, but he's very it's it doesn't

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mean but somebody's like, as soonas that's all this guy in the thumb,
naw, I didn't trust him.So it was like, it's one
of those dudes that you made thisbig cup just for being your boy's like,
no, don't work like that,bro. Yeah, that's why I
love that. It's very clever,very clever guy, very clever. His
storytelling his top notch. NA.I don't know if I'll put him top

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five, Yeah, damn close.And again you see the levels that he
has to go. He has tosuper exceed. Everyone try to super exceed
because of where he's from. Hegoes saying what I mean, like like
when he tried he tried to killthat pan to be when he killed the
panda be Yeah, yeah hard hewent there. He went harder just to
shut that beat. Let me saysomething about that panda song. Panda song.

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I used to laugh at it,but I just heard it not too
long ago and bangs. It grewup, y'all. I was definitely I
heard. I'm like, yo,this was actually, this is actually for
me. If I like all music, if something catches my ear, I'm

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gonna like it. Oh yeah,I mean there's somebody every song that I
like or whatever. Fun ye,but still some hip hop songs I don't
like them right away, but theygrow on you and it can't happen the
more year because the rido bangs.Shoot, they put you on that frequency.
But join us getting top five,I think storytelling he's he's creeping up

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there. Oh no, definitely,because to me, one of the best
songs of all time. And anyoneanyone Devil's work, Devil's work. Anyone
can call me out on this.If there's a better storytelling someone than Devil's
Work Coming Out, Coming Out thatwas worked two. It was pretty good.
Jo. I hear Devil's work andI get goose bumps every single times.

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Devil's Work two is pretty good too. Devil's Worth two is awesome.
I just don't think the topt partone because part one made people well,
made people really recognize him with himgetting on an eminem albumar oh, he
got Lucky You on the comics.He was, That's what he made that
he would he went, he wenton that track too, but he was
out for a while before that.Drop dropping bombs definitely excuse but yeah,

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shouting up work, you know,shout out to people from Boston back in
the days. People. A lotof people don't even realize. DJ Premier
is from Boston. Guru the GangStar is from Boston. Oh yes they
are. You see you are somethingnew everything. Yes, I know that
DJ Premier and Gurgle the Crew GangstarBoston. This Yeah, shout rest in

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peace and shout out to Google.Man, he would have been sixty two
this year. Man, Wow,a couple of days ago because it was
a few day yeah, yeah,yeah, because I just saw I just
saw it. The recipe's gurgle.He's one of my favorite rappers. I
don't think he's top ten for mepersonally, but he's up there because he
has a lot of the songs asa Google themselves and stuff. Oh yeah

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kinds of stuff. Yeah, don'ttake it personal and all that. I
mean, they got they made theirmark, you know, they made their
mark, and a lot of peoplejust swar up and down. They were
from New York and stuff until untillike people started realizing they from Boston.
You know. So going back toyou, because you know this is an
episode starring Mike Nash, I'm gonnaask you some question, no doubt.
So the whole song you have crookedis called way Back. Yes, love

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that song, Yes, thank you, m How did that come about?
Um? How did you get?Yeah? But the song? Um,
the song I had the idea forfor a while, and I get I
get to these stag into these pointswhere if I don't have the song right
over the right person, I justwon't do it. I'll stay in the

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back burner and stuff, and againtrying to trying to reach out. Just
around twenty twenty fourteen, twenty thirteen, I already had more like more music
out, trying to reach out toa home home base producers and stuff,
and just wasn't working out. SoI reached out to UM to M A
D. Shout out to M AD. And Holy Toledo Productions doing a

(27:29):
lot of stuff right now. Hedoes a lot, Man, I'm gonna
give him a big shout out rightnow because this is a type of topic
for a little bit later. Butif you think it was two two of
the top three artists of all time, if you can imagine that they do
out together, that's gonna be crazy. I didn't want to curse so much,

(27:51):
so we're gonna tack later. Butyeah, because yeah, yeah,
that's why I wanted. Yeah,he has Holy Toledo Productions and stuff.
You know, I started following him, started feeling his vibe and stuff,
and then he's he's affiliated with Anolddomini Donold Dominie is a producer out of
the UK, which is which isbased in California, which made kind of

(28:12):
controls and stuff, and he hasa ton of producers overseas, Sweden,
Germany. I mean shout out toSchoolholics, uh two D Productions, all
these different and their young kids andthey're out there from the UK really starving
and on some boom bat official anythingyou hear from me if you do stream

(28:33):
my music, and I appreciate that. Um, all three albums, all
three albums are all those producers.Yes, now one track is from the
United States, which is you know, I want to say, sad to
say, but I had to keepon, had to do what I had
to do, you know what Imean. Um, Anald Domini and m
Mayde had this competition thing with himwith Crocodile and best verse wins a feature

(29:00):
blah blah blah, right, andit was it was about I forgot how
many entries. There's a lot ofentries and it was worldwide and they had
to do a revote because I wasneck and neck with the first with number
one and stuff, you know whatI mean, And they, I guess,
they awarded some guy, some kidfrom San Francisco the video and he

(29:21):
won. So they hit me onthe side, was like, yo,
your joint was crazy and stuff.Don't you you know, still reach out
to him because he might do thevideo. So it just so happens that
I reached out to his video guy, Eddie Patino shout out to Eddie Petino
out there and Cali in La doingbig things. He's crookodis video, his
personal video guy. So I reachedout to him. I'm like, yo,

(29:42):
I got this joint and stuff.You know, croocket I was you
know, was was kind enough todo the verse and stuff. I paid
him for it or whatever and stuff. Here's the song man. He fell
in love with that song. Hesaid, get your ass out here right
now to shoot this video. He'slike, I gotta crook at that right
here. I'm talking to him rightnow. He's like, you want to
do it? I got a videowith you. Got a video definitely.
It's on YouTube. Yeah yeah.Type type in um yeah, type of

(30:04):
Mike nash Um real life, wayback Petre Crookodi so um, I was
on real quick back to the storyI was talking about when I was at
work. That's one of the thingsI did punching the video. I was
like, Yo, this is likelegit, this is fire, you know
again, shout out to Eddie Patinoand he had the whole He was waiting
waiting for me with open arms.He kind of didn't think I was gonna

(30:26):
go. I think he deals witha lot of people who just talk about
it his stuff. I was onthe next thing smoking. I wasn't.
I went there the week before Christmas, it was in December, and shed
this went out there. You know. Yeah you have to change your wardrobe,
you know, coming from here Christmastime. Yeah, it was crazy.
I was all over the place withit and stuff. I had this.
I had like some some hot stuff, some some vessels, some hoods

(30:47):
just in case and sit you know. And um, yeah, man,
he met me out there. Man, he showed me around, bought me
to be real studios. Um,I'm not sure if you're familiar with the
smoke box car right in the carwith people sitting there. He got celebrities
sitting in the car and they smokingstuff and they talking stuff. I had
the opportunity to be in there.And when you see the video, the

(31:10):
license plate says smoke Box and I'mon the car, on that exact car.
So that was you know, thatwas an honor to do it.
So I was waiting waiting for bReal to be around. But like I
said, Eddie Petino shout out tohim. He had full access to the
whole, to the whole studio,and um yeah, from there we met
up with Crookody. We met upwith Crookodi. We went out to Santa

(31:30):
Ana and what was dope? WhatCrookodi was that I thought he was just
gonna come up with the video andthis be in a video. He couldn't
make it out to where we wasbecause the low rider was too low to
get hit the highway. He hada six fold and pola, so yeah,
he couldn't. They couldn't make itand stuff. So we went out

(31:51):
there. Now, my flights atI'm on the Red Eye and my flights
at midnight, and it's already eleveno'clock at night and we're shooting. I'm
like, Dawn, I got getsSTI to get him on the video.
So we shoot out to Santa Ana. We get there, he apologizes again,
shout out the King Crookett for this. He comes out cliche with these
two big Mexicans, tattered up andstuff, real cliche la stuff, right,

(32:13):
But then he comes out and pullsout the six four and pola and
I'm like, well, I didn'tyou know what we're doing with that?
He oh, No, We're gonnaride around and we're gonna shoot inside that
pola and stuff with the with thesixth fold with the ship dropping. I
said, kid, that's fire.He was like, yo, that's it's
not me and stuff for now fornot being over there and stuff. Because
we were supposed to shoot in LongBeach Projects. We went to Long Beach

(32:35):
Projects and we shot some stuff,but it was like some there was some
dudes that were kind of hating nowwhat we were doing and stuff, so
we got to bounce out real quick. I'm not having this. Yeah yeah,
so um yeah, you know,he felt bad or whatever, so
he brought up six fourth next youknow, we're in a sixth for riding
around shoot the video. I'm like, yo, it was way more than
I expected. Yeah, it wasway more. Yeah, way more than

(32:59):
I expect. A real humble dudeand stuff. And I got into I
got into the cigars because he gotinto he was into the cigars or whatever.
If you look at Kim Crooked,he's always always, always the social
and he's always yeah, shout away, yeah, shout out the Horseshoe Gang
too, man. People he gotabout Horseshoe Gang. Yeah, man,
I haven't heard much. I've heardenough to me like these guys are nasty.

(33:22):
Yeah. Did Although I made theflight in it crazy because at the
end of the video is me leaving, leaving in the airpill of trying to
hurt you, trying to be coyabout it. Yeah, it was,
it was you know. I'm thenI'm on the flight back, like,
wow, did that really happen?That? Really? It feels a surreal

(33:44):
right it is. And and thething is that it happened because I did
it myself. I didn't. Ididn't, uh you know when I am
somebody, I didn't take somebody's wordfor this or for that or whatever.
I made it happen. I pulled, I pulled the dreams. Yeah,
I put up the bread and stuff. And mind you when when you hit
these artists up personally and ain't allthat crazy bread. It's if you deal

(34:08):
with their promoters and you deal withthe other people that they're gonna try and
get all. They want their cup, they want their cut. But if
you know, if you if youknow, if you could, if you
could deal directly to him and somethinganything that's bad. It's what you've seen
and it's for all the upcoming artistsand stuff. You know what I'm saying.
You want to deal with people,deal with on the Dominie and maybe
they got this whole feature thing rightnow where they're they're doing um like leasing

(34:30):
features major artists with Gino, excelUm, Cannabis. Uh, get all
these people, and so I don'tif I'm wrapped. Yeah, these are
the guys that don't have on mytracks, Like I don't know what that
Yeah, definitely definitely, But forme and I Google, I started liking

(34:52):
them late. If I would sayhip hop life, that's how I like
the hip hop, I want tosay, like two thousand, two thousand
and three. Yeah, yeah,but we've heard, you know, we've
heard. I remember when I firstheard either like oh one, Like I
remember when I first heard that,and that was like amazing to me.
But that's better wrap ever. Yeah, it is like hands out, it

(35:14):
got it gotta be. But growingup from there, it's just like somebody
I didn't like the mainstream of whatthey had, so I always wanted to
find my old people that I like. When I first learned the hip hop
again, I didn't. I liked. I didn't like him. When I
started listening to him more, Iwas like, this dude's just not commercially
better rapping than al all. Butlike lirically, it's a better rapping than

(35:37):
l That's just my opinion. Yeah, everybody can think different, but that's
just me. It's like you don'tlearning your old thing, like wait that
Magic one. And yeah, eveneven with sports, I like Scottie people
more than MJ. That doesn't takeaway from MJ's greatness. If everybody has
a personal opinion. I love Scottihip mind you Jordan name when a goddamn

(35:57):
exactly he doubled down and want tohear that and then double down and to
double down on it. And Ihate to kick someone when they're down or
whatever. But as well as theygot pipping, seven years already passed.
Of all these teams beating you,they got old, you ran through them,
everybody, I think, yeah,it would have happened without Pipping because

(36:21):
they met their time. I mean, come on, man, I mean
the Lakers, I mean at thattime, they're older. Magic already announced
you as you know, Kareem Kareewith the goggles going balled in and out,
in and out, you know,injured and stuff like that. You
ran through them. Bird was tanyour ass up for six years, you

(36:46):
know what I mean? And thatone, that one game you have what
sixty three points one assist. Yeah, that's Jordan. I wasn't at a
loss. It was a lost lostnot like jan Yeah. But if you
guys haven't heard it, check outMike Nash's um clap track with Crocodile.

(37:07):
I think y'all would like it.Man. If y'all y'all appreciate you some
good stuff, man, you know, I mean, it's awesome. It's
great, it's a great video,it's a great track. I love it
all the way again, going backto my work story, I've heard that
song. I want to say thatin four times for not even like ten
times in a row. That wasthe first song I heard because you said
that, and I was like,oh, let me listen to that track

(37:28):
that it had to be at leastten times in a row. How did
you feel sure? And then itled to more tracks learning about what else
you do and you know, howelse you do other shit, And just
before we go on the best track, I love it's still I try oh
yeah every time that comes on.Yes, happened on my iPod. I'm

(37:50):
probably one of the only person peoplein the world that has iPods with like
five thousand songs on it. Butevery time it comes up, it's got.
It's at least of times, noanybody, they don't appreciate that.
Man, it's awesome. Still trystill not try man with a try with
an eye at the MN. That'smy that's that's my third Uh. You

(38:13):
know, my third album was prettymuch completed my trilogy. That's why from
then on I did singles. Yeah, and I'm working on an EP now
some some more singles. I gotthis single call Uh. It's kind of
crazy because me being older, I'mtrying to get into teaching and trying to
speak with some substance, so youknow with these girls, Yeah, with

(38:34):
these girls with the filter things andstuff and feeling like they need to look
like somebody that they're not. Yea. I got the song called go Filter
Fish and as g U L DashFilter Dash fish and go filter fish.
If everybody knows from like rush Hourfrom Russia, everybody says the same thing.
It's pretty much canned fish, whichis disgusting, and it's like this

(38:55):
Jewish thing or whatever and stuff.But it's, um, what I'm speaking
on this filter fits. It's like, you know, you don't need to,
you know, be someone you're notand stuff you know you hate.
You're not in there, you're notin the cell. You do have to
hit the world one way or another. People don't know how you look.
Whereas for real stuff, you knowwhat I mean. So it's like,
you know, just be you andpeople who don't love you. Like I

(39:19):
saw the other day and it's stillI mean, it might be like five
years old, but it said girlsthat have natural beauty and they work for
a living are still winning. That'slike still true because what we're living now
this girls, the feet picks.There's a girl some booty pigs. I'm
not hating against your money. Yeah, but that's not real life. That's

(39:42):
not real life. You don't feellike that forever. Yeah, you gotta
work from So going back to thetrack with Crooking and how you're going back
now, how do you feel goingup wrapping side, going side by side
with a guy like Crooking, Well, it's it's um. It was it
was over wellman, because you know, I mean he's I mean slaughter house,

(40:02):
you know what I mean, he'sUh then this was um, excuse
me, this was um during theduring the fallout just broke up that that
just kind of part of ways orwhatever, stuff and um yeah, it
was around that time. So hewas he was, he was, he
was. He was like, yea, this is right. There was slaughter

(40:25):
House was like doing that thing andstuff and um again he was under he
was under that umbrella with them madeand all them and stuff or whatever.
And then me me getting to thatcompetition and stuff or whatever, and me
lasting so long, just a littlekid out of Connecticut going against these people
all over the world and stuffing.It's like who's my dash, who's my
nash and stuff? And you knowthat I felt, I felt mad.

(40:47):
I felt I felt great about that, you know, not not not in
ego. Oh no, no,it does, it does. It doesn't
if anybody says any differ in theirlying. I mean like you know,
and I hear people now when theyhear the song, they're like, yo,
you went to toe like but notsomething just as good, I mean

(41:12):
better. I personally think it wasjust yeah, you could tell he went
he did really good, but itwas like not as beast yeah yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah, but itwas good, but it was It's great.
It was good enough for the jointand stuff, and you know,
I loved it and stuff. Youknow what I mean, and you know
this just uh, just me givinga piece up, this little piece of

(41:34):
my life I don't like to talkabout. See a lot of people,
the masses want to hear about howyou're trapped in the hood. You know
what I'm saying. They don't necessarilywant to hear you come out the hood.
They want to hear you still thereexactly. You know what I'm saying,
And that whole thing. You know, I'm from way back this and
that whatever, My mom gonna comeup to get the hell up out of
there, you know what I mean. Like, so yeah, it was

(41:58):
yeah, Stream didn't want people allof us out. Yeah yeah, yeah.
You know they're like when the storiesare like, you know, we're
still the trap. That's why thatmusic is still not still But that music
sells a lot, yeah because yeaha lot whatever. But you know,
like I said, the listeners tothe people who want to hear it but
don't want to live it, theyjust want to hear about it, you

(42:20):
know what I mean. So theykind of feel like they need you to
stay ignorant, to stay to staystagnant, and that little things so like
that they could still have their listening. Don't give a help out about the
actual life you're living from it.Yeah, they just want to hear what
you think, which is stuff like, so, well, year did you
put up your first album? Um, well, my first solo album,
um actually was twenty and twelve.As a solo artist, I was pretty

(42:45):
much from the beginning like a crewguy. Like I was always downward cruise,
you know, some of the bestcruise that Connecticut has to offer,
and stuff out pretty much at apart of and um, you know me
being um from you know, fromthe Bronx with the breakdancing cruise stuff.
I was always loving the crew thing, you know what I mean. And
it just it just wasn't working outfrom crew to crew and stuff and things

(43:07):
get you know, things start fallingapart and stuff like that or whatever.
So I took a long hiatus fromlike from like two thousand and seven all
the way to two thousand and elevenor something like that, got a house,
started having, you know, wehave I had my first my firstborn.
I said, all right, well, I gotta do this. I
gotta be a father, I gottado this and send the foundation and stuff.
And then twenty twelve shout out toWIFEI man my girl Eva Man love

(43:30):
you. But she's the one whoactually gave me the title of More Life,
More Music, my first solo album, and she would you know.
I was like, well, Imean, you know, it's done,
it's done with, it's done with. You know. She's like, no,
you got more life, you gotmore music. So my solo album
was called More Life, More Music, and that was like a story.

(43:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, And youknow from two thousand and twelve that was
my first album. Whatever pressed up, CD, barcoded, everything, streaming
and stuff and just loving the justjust just filling the high of of that
acceptance of actually being accepted as asolo artists, being that albums always for
cruise, you know what I mean, the cruise and the cruise you just

(44:15):
gotta hurry up and just make sureyou got your sixteen ready solo artists,
you got to make sure you gotthree verses ready hooks, boom, this
and that or whatever. So sothe complete fifteen songs on the album,
all my all my albums are fifteensongs long. So that's a lot of
drawings, you know what I mean. That A lot of people don't even
do that, no more, Yeah, they don't a lot of music comes

(44:37):
out now it's like seven tracks,eight tracks LP or EPs, whole out,
even the whole album I've seen.I mean now it's did the one
with u K. Yeah, that'slike eight songs. It's like, it's
good, it's good enough. Thisis why, this is why NAS had
to come up with these albums realquick after that, because he knew that.

(45:00):
I was like, oh man,it just dropped one some things ago.
Oh yeah, it's good. Ilistened only one, uh once on
the way through. I listen toone some times. It's a it's about
it's abobe. Shout out to hitBoy. Yeah, hit Boy, they
did five albums in three years,full length albums. These are all twelve
songs plus. So shout out hitBoy, Shout out nass So who right

(45:20):
now, if somebody came out ofthe album right now, who would have
been that you did actually school gettingand listen to those things right now?
You know, could be still JayNasa Yeah, I mean Jay dropping,
Yeah, Nasi is dropping. Jay'sdropping. I'm I'm I'm copping at you
know what I mean a lot ofpeople hating the man that he's become or
whatever, but you know, Iknow the duty was, but yeah,

(45:45):
you know m J Jay's own business. Now, yeah, yeah, I
can appreciate that. You don't meanthe money man shout out to people like
you know, like Conway the Machineand stuff like that. Like I've been
listening to him like ridiculously, LikeI haven't heard Munch. Yeah, I'm
like stuck in my ways. Ilike who I like, and I just

(46:06):
want to sten to that, youknow, So I didn't want to do
even if it's good. I hassaid to listen or even you know,
trying to listen to So I heardsome stuff and it's fire. Yeah,
check out here, I got Igotta hear more like two albums album pretty
cool. It's just this is mything. Do you listen to him?
I do? How are you friendabout him? Um? Kanway, He's

(46:28):
dope, He's dope, He's veryvintage. Um, he's to he's he's
for the culture. You know.Eminem eminem um, oh no, I
love eminem. Yeah. Yeah,somebody here doesn't listen. He's not he's
not feeling yesterday. I don't feelhim as much as I do. But
I mean everybody's different. I getit. But I mean, like Eminem

(46:52):
a lot, it's just recently hehasn't put out as much good stuff as
he used to. Its line,that's not a lie, it's how how
how was it a lie? Though? His last alb Music to be murdered
By, was fired. Music tobe murdered By it right, was fired,
and the last one we put upwas it was another current call.

(47:13):
It was another the greatest hits.I don't care about it. I don't
care about those because it's greatest hits. I'm not worried about those. But
Music to be murdered By it wasfired, Died to be murdered By.
I heard maybe two songs and itwas like it was not it for me.
Again, everybody's different. Everybody likesthe old type of music, type
of rap, tap hip hop.I'm not thinking that nothing away from you

(47:35):
or from what you like. Butfor me, it's like it didn't interests
me. So I didn't hear it. But should I'm an I'm a fan
and I can honestly say the revivalalbum he put out was trash like from
the beginning, from beginning to end. Accept the Accept the radio hit with
Ed Sharon River. That's that's aboutThat's about it. That's the other than

(47:55):
that. I thought a Relapse wasn'teven that good. Relapse. To me,
I can't that's great. Ila threeam um My Mom Black pyproon back
Guy Underground Beautiful. I get.I get he was. I get he
was later he was on drugs water, but he still spit bars on that
on the album. The album wasunderrated. It wasn't great. It wasn't

(48:17):
his greatest album, but it wasthe underrated album. It's had some good
stuff on there, and the twofavorite songs I got off of there are
Beautiful, which is underrated as hell. Haven't heard beautiful listening beautiful and Underground
Underground Underground was so it was sofire that Yeah, yeah, m's worst

(48:38):
EM's worst albums where I feel itwas Revival and was uncore. Uncle was
good, but it wasn't that great. Excuse me when I see reviews and
people talking about the albums, theylove Revival more than they love Relapse.
I don't understand that. It doesn'tmake any sense to butt that voice.

(48:59):
It was like, yeah, thekid, I get, I get why
they liked Revival. He had morefeatures on it. He had Pink,
he had at least keys, hehad uh Rihanna on there, he had
had shared on there, he hadmore radio of course people like that.
But Relap Relapse was fired, Relaxesfired, And like I said, when
he came out with Kama Kazi,I was like, oh yeah, yeah,
every song Kama Kazi was firing everysong but that. But that's because

(49:22):
you're a fan. No, no, no, no, because like that
it wasn't fired. I'm just takingaway from you're a fan, it's gonna
be fired. No, I said, I told you truth. Like uncre
wasn't that great, Revival wasn't thatgreat? There were songs that I skipped,
like I like acre stuff on it. There's very there's very few albums

(49:43):
I am where I listened to fromfirst, from beginning to the beginning to
and there's there's very few albums nowthat that could pop in listen to it
from getting that. That's how Ilike personally to judge the album from first.
Yeah, if you're the Skis,that's good. Like I said,
there's very few albums out there whoyou can bang it from beginning to happen
to those days to me. Tome, the last album that I banged

(50:07):
from beginning to end, and I'mstill gonna still live by this to the
day. That was the Carter TooLittle Wings album from beginning to end after
that, from the beginning they weregood. But the Carter Too, every
song was you were just like,like, damn, but this was vintage
Wayne. It wasn't. This wasn'tthat you know, I can't feel my
face Yeah, draw Santanna shit,they was fired from me. I can't

(50:30):
Little Wayne Carter two fired. Ican skip two songs probably which one.
I look at the track list again, everything was someone I don't mind skipping
it. Even the Carter three,I can skipped like four songs. Yeah,
yeah, but the Thanny percent albumwas fired a lot of people.
That was his peak. Carter three. Yeah, yeah, I can't stand

(50:51):
half that album like it because itwas on the radiobody heard the Officer.
I don't mind Lollipop. This isOfficer a millie. You probably heard two
minutes, Okay, mister Carter wasa fire out song that she was fired
that personally, that lottipop joint isuh, every artist out right now pretty

(51:15):
much pretty much like you know whatI mean. So if you have,
if you picked the album that youcan listen to what I was skipping it
and just popping it from beginning there. Oh, that's a great question.
That is I'm talking about, likeyou don't even listened to the skits and
just still smile, still listen tono matter what bro that is. I
mean there's a few, A lotof them are old. You know what

(51:37):
I like about is bad? Umyeah, bade every single it was good.
Bad is ridiculous. That's the onewith pink cookies in the plastic bag.
You know that. No, No, that one was with us Well,
um I need I no, no, that was with uh sure,

(51:58):
but my rime ain't done. Umblewas on there. Um it might have
been. I might I might bewrong. Black Panther had id love.
I mean, there's albums that Igo to right now when I'm hearing a
bunch of bull and I'm here andI'm just tired of hearing all this and

(52:22):
I need to like refresh my brainand stuff. Um Mob Deed's album which
one, um uh no, Iwas the second album at first, that
first one, Oh gotta on theright there, Yeah, and one will
give Up the Goods and all that. That Mob Deep album was ridiculou getting

(52:45):
the um the one will give Upthe Goods and and shook Ones and all
that and that classic the Infamous definitelythe almost I was gonna say the Infamous
mind I don't want to be that. That was really good. That album
right there is ridiculous for me.I only have like a handful. Yeah,

(53:07):
it's still men U the Purple Tapefrom you joint Um. There's two
tribes because you know what, Ilike to take a lot. Yeah,
but when ghost Face raps and I'mgonna get a lot of heat for this
talk if you want to want itto be cram n. I think ghost
Face is a little overrated. Ilike him, but again, it's about

(53:31):
the delivera. It's just like he'stalking his story to me. It's not
really rapping. He's yeah, becausethat's how I hear it. That's how
I hear it. Still Madic isalbum you're gonna threw back to the front
to back. The bad is oneof the nomadic is like the one number
one it was written from it.I am had a couple that I could

(53:55):
have skipped. Was definitely have toskip a couple of albums. Actually got
the biggest. Now God's Son notgonna listen to the beginning of the two
Gods was good too. That's wasfired was good? Umift get rich of
that trying? Oh yeah down Definitely, that's definitely top Definitely, that's right,
that's the top. Fire. That'sone of the top albums. Yeah,
honestly because from front to back youcan hear that all the way through

(54:17):
and just love it. Maybe maybeninety five percent. But All Eyes on
Me two pot is a good albumto listen to best All Eyes. I
could skip ye one or two,that's less about it, but the whole,
the whole double album is the Wildby the way. Yeah, that
double album was fired, so it'sreally good. The double album, the
Biggie double album. But life afterthat, Life after that, both plugs,

(54:40):
you can for both plugs back beforethe first one. The second one
I could skip and I liked thesong, but I can skip New York
Giants whatever. Yeah, I justskip that one. It's good when I
first heard it. But the actualTist Squad album with all of them on
it was it was good. Backand back to front too. Was no.
I just give a couple there oneSunshine and like there was one else

(55:04):
when I was up the way,man, it was kept me, kept
me sane. Man Don Carter Ginaalbum. They had so many features on
it had both you gotta be lookingat the wall, but up there Doc
is up there, right there,and the comment is a job rule and
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna saylow end theory. Man Trick called quests

(55:27):
Man that low end theory was whatwas what? Because I remember hearing it,
but I remember, like track fortrack, what about Blueprint one?
That was a good album? No, literally Blueprint Blueprint? I was one
of the rare ones that it doesn'tlike blueprint from beginning to end. I
hate girls, a lot of Ihate girls. Girls? Is that the
one? How many people were different? Well, you don't like Blueprint like

(55:54):
blueprint from beginning to end? Ireally don't, So I like, I
mean eight said a blueprint was fired. Yeah, there's two songs act ski
like our three songs like a skid. I know one of them is definitely
girls Girls, Girls, and theother ones I'm trying to plank because when
you talk about something, if wewere off air right now, I can
tell you all three songs like yeah, but we're all kind of come up

(56:16):
with it's all these one it's comingup to my girls, girls there's two
more on the album. I waslike, that's that's not bad, it's
good. Let's hang on it.But let's get that and I have no
care. So what would you communeto the Black album more than you listen
to the Blueprint? One Yes,Black Album, Front the Bank was fired,

(56:38):
the whole thing, all the blackalbums, which I can't remember what
it is. Um you got yougotta trying to kind of remember, because
I did was fire like you cool, dude, you want the whole album
was fired. We used to box. It's about Kanye's graduation. That was

(56:58):
good. That was a good album. I said, Barry Bunds. I
can't listen to the Barry Bonds Andyou like a little way. That's saying
a lot because you like a littleway. Huh y. That's one of
the worst songs off The American Gangsterjay Z about Jim Jones. Jim Jones
got an American gang stuff. Ilike, I like, I like Joe,

(57:21):
like Jim. His last this songto me males was like, well,
I don't meet Push Push. Ilike I like Jim You push late
in some one, I like,I like Jim Jones when back in the
day, not Jim Jones. JimJones has some good songs. I just
don't think he had a four hourslike Bangers. Yea one hour. I
can listen to from the Bad People, Um, what the He's been missing?

(57:43):
Drawson to him when he bought hisfirst one. When I it was
my birthday, my brother bought methis actually you know what and believe it
or not, two people having listento Paul Wallace People's Chimp. When that
album came out, my brother Iwoke up. I was working third Ship.
My brother was working at Target overnight, so he got to he got
to hit see these came out.He had to hear the out. I
honestly probably bought the first copies,yeah, because our break used to be

(58:06):
like two thirty yeah, and sothat's what stuff we used to go out.
So when I woke up, heput the album on my a dresser
and I woke up. Was beginningthat the old Paul old Paul album,
the what the game has been missing? And he's the first one APUBLM on
that. Uh, the Curtis albumfor these for these albums. Yeah,
I like that. The albums okay, but it's not great. But there's
one album, but Curtis, thefirst six songs are good. After that,

(58:30):
I'll just go through that. Youguys ever heard of um and it's
crazy because not part of his officialcatalog. But fifty had eight dropped the
album called war Angel. No,I didn't hear that one. It's on
you, but I did. Umthat okay, okay, okay, okay,
oh y, y're right? Yeah, yeah, I like I love

(58:50):
that. That's that's the song Animal, that's the Animal's ambition. That was
that was the thing. Yeah,we'll hear o war Angel really um and
song um I've got my London girl. Because he it's not part of his
official catalog. It's weird because hean Annibal. That's why Jenakis got that

(59:14):
beat off of that song. Anibalwas on that. I believe just like
all his love. That's all hislove, all his time. That wasn't
on the album. And you guyson YouTube type in fifty cents war Angel
and it's a it's a full album. It's ridiculous. I I I never

(59:35):
heard a song that people ask methisen thing that kills me? Who asked
you you haven't heard this person yet? You heard that yet? You know
how much stuff comes out with hiphop. I know that we kid like
and there's so much and knowing thatyou you know, you're, you're,
you're keen on things. Just tohear you say, oh no, I
didn't hear that yet, that's kindof refreshing because I'm like, oh oh

(59:57):
yeah, exactly, there's still roomfor more. Yeah, yeah, I'm
okay with that. I love themore different stuff. Yeah, yeah,
definitely, And I'm probably really late, Like a couple of years ago,
I just heard the fifty and ChrisBrown song the Romeo. Really only like
a couple of years ago I heardthat song because again, for a few

(01:00:17):
years, I was stubborn. ButI don't listen to the people I like.
Not you so pretty much you createyour own algorithm exactly. Yeah,
like you know what I mean.So you can't listen everything. People tell
me you haven't heard this person,No I happened, but no, like
yo, but I'm excited that Inever heard before. Exactly, people check

(01:00:37):
it out. Like again, Iget the same thing with like Jedimintrins.
I like Jedi Mitris. I haven'theard a lot of Vini pezz Is solo
stuff, so when I hear it, I was like, oh this actually
it's actually fired. Vitipets has alot of dope stuff. You heard of
names Nimes. Yes, yes,it's a lot of dope stuff, but
it does pretty so um, MichaelNomesi's question, who's one artist that you

(01:01:02):
can listen to that other people willlook at you like you listen to him
for like like I mean real,I'm gonna be real and this is this
is not even heap, this isI listen to Kenny g. Yeah,
that's that's that's that's that's my ship. I don't even got that. Yes,
I mean, if you see meas big as I ain't mean listen
to Kenny. It looks weird.But but who's want to who is Who's

(01:01:25):
one person or group or wherever youcan listen to people look at you like
you're funny looking for that you know, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say,
um, you pay Fiasco the coolalbum that Fire? Yes, he
is his second album. I forgotthat. I think it was the second
album. That album is And Icould keep hearing I can keep hearing people

(01:01:49):
like him. I could keep hearingpeople you know like black thought, I
mean should be but it was itwas refreshing him pretty you know. I
love the moment that Black Thought hadon that phone flex freestyle. How long
for I think it was the longest, but he went for a while he

(01:02:14):
would just kill the best freestyle.I was like, yeah, fire the
best freestyle from beginning to end andstuff. And that's him. Now.
I heard the roots in ninety four, Um, I shall proceed and all
that. I can't even lie.I just find out about you know,
the roots and Black Thought, likenot even ten years ago, Oh yeah,
yeah, so m live bam.They played live bash out to quest

(01:02:37):
Love on him drunk, but Iheard them and ninety four and to hear
Black Thought, now kick the bestfreestyle. Love finally finally felt like yeah,
you know, and it's like that'slike mad refreshing and stuff. You
know what I'm saying, Especially forhim. Imagine ten years ago he would
have quit or something like that.He wouldn't. He would never never had

(01:02:58):
that moment, you know what Imean, Like, you know, he
still puts his footprint in the hiphop, in the in the history of
hip which is what we need rightnow at this moment. Yeah, that's
the reason. I mean, Ithink personally, if I would have heard
fire coming from the next generation,and I would have heard from I think

(01:03:19):
I would have faded out. Butjust because I keep hearing garbage makes me
want to be like, Yo,no, you forgot about this. You
forgot about this type of round.You know, there was nothing you want.
Yeah, there was nothing ever wrongwith the old school rules and stuff,
you know what I mean, Likeyou could it could be modle school.
You could do your stuff and stufflike you know, Um, like

(01:03:44):
I said, trap music is trapmusic and stuff. There's still a dope
way to do it. There isa dope way to do it, you
know. Um little baby um thatfirst joint he did, um, um,
you stand too close of this way. Yeah. Yeah, and there's

(01:04:09):
and there's dope ways to do it. You can add substance to that,
you know what I mean, LikeI can flow on that now stuff.
But me personally, I don't wantto cheat the listener by giving a bunch
of blank spots. Yeah. Youknow, they'll be like they'll say signing,
they'll yeah, yeah, and thenyeah and then after that another yeah.

(01:04:32):
I'm like, dude, I justyou know what I'm saying. Can
I get that time back? Youcan't get that time back, you know
what I mean. And it's likeI don't leave no blank spots, and
you're gonna get a sixteen. You'regonna get a sixteen. You're gonna get
a full sixteen. And I'm actuallygotta I actually gotta be saying something and
stuff. You know what I'm saying. There's certain things within the algorithms and
these labels. They will not signyou unless you're unless you're talking about you

(01:04:58):
know, corruption, girls, bitches, whatever you want to, drugs,
you know, the whole thing andstuff. If you're not saying these things
and stuff, they're not getting you. You're not gonna get a deal,
which is so far as a majordeal. But these days major deals ain't
even the way man, I meanit is. If it's presented to you
on a silver platform, I mean, who the fuck won't take that?

(01:05:19):
You know what I mean? Butfor me, for me, the young
people that like coming out now andI stayed in the ground. Its token
token slept on a little white kidfrom Rhode Island. Really good starting Grindmo
ciphers. Shout out Grindmo cipher becausethey do a lot of really fire ciphers.
Did you check it? Out.I'm onto a lot. I'm on
two of them. You're onto those? Yeah, Yeah, there's just a

(01:05:43):
lot of ground moods. Yeah,I remember, has a lot of tough
ciphers. I'm on two of those. A pretty recent one too, not
too long not too long ago.I did one and stuff. They came
out to water Bearer. I checkedit out because Token is one of them
that came out from there. ClarkWhite who was his name now used to
be patching a MC came from there, really fired MPT and Snow the product.
Yes, lady female, Yes,yes, yes, one of the

(01:06:06):
best rappers in the game right now. Her and Lady London are my favorite.
Like they're slept on. Lady Londonand Snow the product. One of
the best female rappers out right now. And shout you guys haven't heard of
them? Go check them out.Yeah, shout out to the Shout out
to the people out here in Connecticutright now doing their thing. Man to
two. You know, two individualsright now making it. You know,
they made a move and stuff.Fuego Bass out of Harford just got Benny

(01:06:30):
the Butcher just signed them. He'slike Rizelda who his name is Fuego Bass.
He's out of Hartford. Shout outFlago bass from being from Harford.
But I haven't heard your ship.Yeah, I'm gonna check it out.
It's about Yeah, he's official andstuff. He's you know, he got
signing with other records and stuff,you know what I mean. And um
out of Bridgeboard. Um, notbeing biased, I'm from Bridgeboard and stuff,

(01:06:50):
but shout out to show love showyman. He's Um, he just
went on tour with Millie's out inBoston and stuff. They did a whole
whole tour are out here and stuff, and um, you know, shout
out to show in the whole showup movement and stuff and and you know,
just just a handful of people thatare doing the things and stuff.
Shout out to Bars on ninety five. I don't know if you're yeah,

(01:07:12):
Bars, Yeah, yeah, youknow what's that? What's that group?
That? Excuse me? They doa lot of freestyles. There's a lot
of um it's hard. It's nota freaking uh co written type of like
ciphers. It's like a cipher CocaNostra. Oh, those guys they're just

(01:07:36):
a fire free fire ciphers And Iappreciate those guys. Those are good too.
And it's kind of dope because itkind of looks like they're in the
podcast like setting. Yeah, exactlyexactly, like they're just tanned up like
they're pretty good. Now on that. Is there any artists before we go
to CT mainstream or you know,big time artists that you want to work

(01:07:57):
with it you haven't worked with yet? Uh? Um Joel Ortez, Man,
Man, you ever heard of theproducer Apolo Brown? Of course,
yeah, the cheese dropped an albumwith all his productions, the whole thing.

(01:08:18):
But I heard some of it fire, Um, you know people like
him. Um, it's hard.It's hard to say. It's hard to
say like anybody knew, of courseor whatever and stuff. But um,
I would love a hook from Busterman, just a hook. You don't
want to first rapper, I wouldn'twant it, but again first from Buster

(01:08:40):
because it back back back to thebeginning of the set when I was saying
that there's certain songs that I haveif it ain't the right song or whatever,
if I don't got the right personon it, I got out on
the back turner. Well, Ihad this one song that I never dropped
and it's because I needed Buster onthe and that happened. It is called

(01:09:01):
ship face. It's called it's calledship face getting drunk. You know.
It's like I can only here,I can only hear Buster saying it.
And it's like, you know,the hook is like from the Club of
the Streets for thugs to love.He gets ship faced by nigga, you
know, for the thick sexually chicks. I love the French kids. Come
on now, love. You gottaknow when you say when you say it

(01:09:23):
like that, I can see abust and get it down, my nigga.
If you don't want to move,sit it down, one nigga.
You know how that go back?Niggas getting in the back road you wanta
leave. It's like I could onlyhear him on it, and this this
song is like ten years old.I got the verse to hook it.
I would not drop it until aBuster ish Typdoon comes around or Buster himself.

(01:09:45):
So Buster, if you're listening,I'm shut out and just something got
that Lifetime Achievement Awards. It's likeeverywhere right now. Shut He's he's underrated
man. He's dropped some fun herverses over the years. Here's us here.
He's had some trash to He wentregular, he went, we went
reggae for a little wid he Inever heard Agga for a little while.

(01:10:10):
The video his yard game, it'scrazy. He could talk. He could
talk it, but went at itand it hit as hard as he thought.
It was great. But now,how about for local artists? Is
there a local artist you would liketo work with, not even just because

(01:10:32):
of their popularity or just because ofthe status, just who you like,
anybody you would like on the trackjust to spit you know, bar for
bar, I would I would loveto joining with Chris Webby. Man,
he gets so much hate out here. I don't know why. It's ridiculous.
I don't know why. Yeah,it's crazy. He has he has
some songs with Mercury leagues on there. It's because he's doing him. It's

(01:10:53):
because he's doing him and it's hisstyle and he's doing him. He's putting
the blinders on, like you knowwhat I mean, He's putting the line.
Isn't know that? Boys? Andyou see where he's getting them,
you know what I mean? Shoutout to Chris Fury his manager and stuff,
and um, you know I knowthem. I know them. You
know, back in the days inor when those Throne parties, he was
just a party promoter and stuff.And I mean you see the movies he's

(01:11:15):
making, man, like, howcan you hate on that? Like you
know what I mean? You couldyou could talk smack all you want and
stuff. There's people who hate jayZ and it's like and it's like why
because he became this and ain't youcan't say you can't say you don't like
his music? You know what Imean? I had this thing out here
where people see the thing in Connecticutis like what the ultimate universal narrative they

(01:11:40):
say, if you don't got nothingnice to say, don't say nothing at
all? Here is they do havesomething nice to say, but they ain't
saying it. You understand what Imean. It's all God. And you
know that that when I hear someonesaying, um, like at work and
someone about this guy, be like, yo, oh he's really good at

(01:12:01):
what he does. I don't tellhim because I don't want him get a
big head, Like what what typeof shit is that? Like you don't
want you don't want, you don'twant to say that I'm dope because you
don't want me to get a bighead. Let me get this big head
and float us the hell about it, like you know what I mean,
Like I never understood that. Buthere it's like if you're dope, they're

(01:12:23):
not gonna say it, you knowwhat I mean. And people out here
you can't, you can't, youcould, you cannot like me for whatever
and stuff. You know, Ihave a lot of history out here and
stuff. I did a lot ofstuff I regret. You know, I
had to pass. You know whatI mean? Everyone does, everyone,
but no one can't say that theycan't. Then I feel in my music
because I already transferred my music tocomplete strangers and they say my music is

(01:12:46):
incredible, not that is dope,and it'sn't that whatever. Like I said,
I'm not fooling myself or nothing likethat. Whatever. They'd be like,
yo, you music incredible, Likewhat's up? Why you ain't on
yet? I'm like, ask thembecause when they say it's up to the
people's up to the people's up tothe people, Um, it's the people
who's making these wack rappers famous.It's the people. It's like, shame
on the people. I'm sorry,but it is what it is. You

(01:13:09):
as up to y'all. You knowwhat I'm saying. The artist is doing
the hardest, the hardest word.They're going to the studio, they're composing,
they're doing this stuff. Or allyou have to do is share.
All you have to do is wordof mouth and this and that whatever,
just one little story and stuff.Just at work, you know, I
work with you know, some whitepeople and stuff or whatever, you know,

(01:13:30):
office setting. This is why youshare. Because I'm talking with my
coworker. Find out that he doesbeats and stuff. Right, So we're
talking about music and were talking aboutvideos. All of a sudden, this
secretary lady that we didn't even know, We don't even talk to her.
She says, oh, my cousin'sboys shoots videos. And then I go

(01:13:55):
on his page and he's shooting videosfor like Chris Webby, Blue Face,
all these known rappers and stuff.And I'm like, well, this is
one secretary girl that has a boyfriend, that has a cousin that knows such
and such. This is why youshare, you know, that whole thing
about when they say, um,oh, how come you ain't famous yet?

(01:14:16):
Because you ain't sharing my shit?You know what I'm saying, But
that goes that speaks volumes because youdon't know. If you share something on
somebody's page, that person could havean uncle that has an an r that
works in death jam. You don'teven know. So this is why you
just say, oh no, it'sjust little old me. What's little old
me gonna do if I share yourship? I don't know. Let's see

(01:14:38):
share it, try it, yeah, give it a shot. It takes
its second, you know what Imean. And that's the problem here,
you know what I mean. Youknow, they don't want to be responsible
for your growth and stuff. Andit's sad to say and stuff because of
people's situations. Everyone's in that situationand stuff, and if they want to
see you excel, they don't.They don't want to be a part of

(01:15:00):
that. And it's it's sad tosay, you know what I mean.
But you know, most of themost of the most of the biggest stars,
they always come from a little town, a little town in Illinois or
a little town when they had toleave out of there. But I never
looked at Connecticut like that. Butafter all these years, it is what
it is, you know what Imean. So now going back to you

(01:15:21):
know, you know, people grandanother, Um, what do you what
do you have working I don't knowif you can share it or not?
Whether he got under reps, Whatdo you got working on? Not?
Because I know you said you're intomore of you know, teachings now that
definitely I got about I got aboutfour Um, I got about four singles
on debt that's ready to go.UM, two videos. I'm doing this

(01:15:45):
song called the Filter Fish. LikeI was telling you guys about welfare.
Um, it's about girls using filtersand people just kind of catfishing people and
stuff and just love who you are. UM. I got a song called
another single call Yeah. It's calledso Mellow, and it's kind of like
talking to the young and the dudesand stuff like you know what I'm saying,
like all the violence and stuff andgiving you a piece of my life

(01:16:09):
at the same time to see like, okay, bam, it is possible,
you know what I mean. Youdon't have to be stuck in the
trap. There is not it's ametaphorical cage around the trap around the hood.
You can't leave, you know whatI mean. And then um,
and then another single guy called Gestures. This one's pretty dope too because it's
about all these young girls that thinkthey're ready for an OG and they're still

(01:16:32):
in their young ways and stuff.So it's like the hook is like,
I'm too old for you, babygirl, but I appreciate the gesture,
you know what I'm saying. Isee you running all around ten Yeah.
Yeah. So right now, I'mjust in single mode. I'm doing some
singles and stuff for the for thespring summer. I'm gonna trying to drop

(01:16:54):
them out. I'm trying to dropthem before the summer ends, and then
I'm gonna work on an EP forthe fall and hopefully for album in the
winter. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, something to look forward to.
No, definitely, I want todo a skate crap, you know.
And like I said, the peopleready, man, I'm gona try
to do a promo for you guys. Man, seriously when the album comes

(01:17:15):
out, I'm not definitely sure.Yeah, couple tracks, yes, yes,
yes, yes, definitely totally yeahyeah yeah, and um yeah,
I'm on like I said, ifyou, if you guys stream on YouTube,
I got a topic page as well, okay, and it's all monetizing
stuff and you know, you cancheck all the albums out on YouTube and

(01:17:36):
stuff. If you if you're onSpotify, it's on there Spotify. If
it's on a couple of music,it is on Apple Music as well.
And yeah, man, this isum. You know, I'm at this
point right now where all my kidsare grown now almost out of the college,
one not one, out of thehouse and stuff, and it's like
back to me, yeah, becauseyou know it's your time. Yeah yeah,

(01:17:58):
yeah, you know, like Isaid, you know father older,
Yeah, you're good. Oh yeahyeah. My oldest sons he's an econ
major. He works in the bank, he's a proving loan a. You're
good. You're good. My youngestson he's doing this, he's doing this
engineering stuff and stuff. So youknow, I had to make sure that
they were in the right path,you know what I mean. And you

(01:18:18):
know that I dabbled in between.But now I'm gonna try to go full
fledge. Um, there is noage limit on this hip hop now.
I was just say that, doyou see yourself stopping at any time just
because of your age or yeah,it all depends on how you feel.
Man. Like I said, Ihave, I have a lot of people
I did music with that, don'tyou know. They don't do it no
more for whatever reason. I knowwe were talking off age. I'm an

(01:18:40):
off air. Yeah, Kra's stillwrapping. Yes, little couple things here
and there. Oh yeah, Ijust put out a single rock the Bells
Radio decent. Yeah, yeah,exactly. Yeah, it's not bad A
number. Like said, it's aboutnumber. If you can feel like you
can still do it, do itif you're a brain if your brain capacity

(01:19:02):
is still there where you. LikeI said, I'm not running out of
things to say. Yeah, andespecially now things that I'm seeing post post
now, covid post covid um.The way people are now is like you
know me first, f you mefirst, this and that. You see
it in the highways, you seeit in the driving, you see it
in stopping shot, you see itin the in the in the parking lots

(01:19:25):
and stuff. Everyone's me first,me, me, me, me,
me, me, me. Youknow what I mean. So I talk
about that a lot too, stuff, you know what I mean, hopefully
trying to get people, you know, one person at a time, you
know what I mean. This thingcalled it's kind of funny. It's called
affluence on right, and it's ait's a kid it's it's a case where
people don't they're never dealt with consequences. Right. It was a story and

(01:19:47):
this kid in California, this richkid, driving drunk, ran over these
two people and continued on and wenthome. It was a hidden run,
right. So they got on mycamera and that they went to his house.
They arrested him. Right, hegot these his parents got these two
big time lawyers and they looked upsome situations and stuff and they said,
hey, he suffers from affluenza wherehe wasn't raised to know what consequences are.

(01:20:15):
He never he never does. Lookedthis, looked this up over,
got awful probation. But they wasgonna do what that was gonna do some
kind of stuff. And I thinkthe family was going to do a civil
suit on them or whatever. Right, so they we're gonna try to get
this kid. The parents are tryingto get them overseas. So they dressed

(01:20:38):
them like a girl. YouTube this. Hey, I learned that I can't
speak out nothing that ain't to youbecause everything's googlable, you know what I
mean. But they dressed him asa girl, and he got caught up
in the airport and stuff, andthese lawyers. Really looked up, really

(01:21:00):
he looked up a situation where there'sa cake affluence of what people. Kids
are growing up without consequences, sothey think they could do whatever they want
because they're not gonna super consequences.Their parents are gonna pay to pay their
way out. So it's kind oflike something now like right now, like
you got these people that are likewith this road rage. Man, it's
road rage. It's ridiculous, itis, And it reminds me of the

(01:21:23):
Dante Stalworth. He kills somebody,yeah he was. He kills somebody.
Yeah, he was drunk. Hewas able to play the next year with
the Patriots. That's crazy. Hewas drunk, he kills somebody, which
is insane. I thought, youknow, because somebody was you know,
you're a jail for five years andthey're like, yeah, exactly, but

(01:21:43):
he was drunk, term living,he has money, he's all free.
Yeah, he's able to play thevery next season with the Patriot. And
I think that's I think that's aproblem here, Like even like in like
shopping places to see people these attitudesand you know, me first met first
in that way, these people arenot being checked. That's the problem.
You know what I mean. Youyou you you you you know. You

(01:22:06):
wake up in the morning, youcan wash your face and stuff. If
that person who was an asshole theday before wakes up washing his face and
sees a black guy, he mightwant to reflect and they're like, damn
that black you know that guy outof hand, that black guy could turn
into a bullet. Let me changemy ways and stuff. And I'm not

(01:22:26):
saying like choose violence and stuff.But some people just go overboard. Some
people need to be checked. Buta lot of people who are a lot
of a lot of people who aredoing the checking are the ones are getting
in trouble for checking checking these peoplewhich is which is which is right?
Buttons which is wrong? Sometimes someyeah something's just happened. But some people
are just spiteful. Some people arejust just got that malice in them and

(01:22:48):
stuff like sureverybody gets the whole Karenworked from me, you know, just
the harassment from some of these people. Then when you say something automatically is
like the trigger trigger saying that whatyou know, you're only speaking in your
mind because young we could change youknow, we could change people. You
know, one crazy to say oneblack eye at the time. Many in

(01:23:13):
this day and age. You justgotta watch what you're saying all the violence.
No, no, I'm I actuallylike smiling and stuff. You know
what I'm saying. I like,you know, I like, I'm I'm
from the worst of the worst,dude, Like, I'm from the projects
of Bronx, New York to FatherPanic and Bridgeport if you know, you
know it was it was the sixthworth worst projects in America. From there

(01:23:34):
went to pt Projects, which isnot not you know, it's the same.
It's the same and stuff. Youknow what I mean. Um,
I just like that just got tobe sensitive. Yeah, yeah, you
say, someday just take it overboards. Really gotta watch. He didn't
give me command comedy. You can'tsaying Chipov about the whole ladys Oh yeah

(01:24:00):
that he talked so much about theeven trying to sue him transgender. Ye,
the lady he was again. Thelady he was talking about was his
legit friend. Yes, yeah,held, it was legit friend. He
told the story. It's like,hey, this is my personal friend.
She's okay, we'll be telling thestory. How are you going to tell
me that story? Subject? Rubthe nail on the coffin with that was

(01:24:24):
his last words was okay, I'llstop bashing ya when you stop bashing us.
It was okay to think of thisand think that it's okay if you
know to to watch the black moviesand watching this and that or whatever.
But when it's time to talk aboutthis, what makes that so different exactly?
I'll stop bashing. Stop bashing upwhite people using the word the N

(01:24:45):
word, more black people are usingYeah. So so it's like, yeah,
yeah when you cut that out.Cutting out to seeing this video on
TikTok is funniest. I was adentist and he was like, I don't
know what I'm feeling right now,but it's like I'm feeling this joy right
now. He had a black patientand he needed a root canal and I

(01:25:05):
kind of rushed it for him,and he says, yo, yo,
my nigga, and he's like,I don't know how I felt about You
know, you gotta see that asfunny as hell. He's like, yo,
I don't know how I feel aboutthat. I feel like none of
my friends say the N word.He's like, I feel like I accomplish

(01:25:30):
in his life, Like you know, he felt so accepted now that n
things like that, you know,like I said, like, you know,
I'm from the worst of the worst, man, I'm I'm I'm a
sure example of of you know,still having love in his heart, still
wanting to laugh, still want youto win, still want you to win.

(01:25:51):
There's not enough people winning, sowhen that one person wins out the
masses, he's hated on because themasses was winning around exactly. Yeah,
so if everyone's winning, you know, you understand what I mean, Like,
you know, it was a job. It was a job that you
know, some people found out thathow much I made and everyone just like

(01:26:11):
just turn it back on me,like okay, like the company thinks I'm
worth this, the company thinks you'reworth that. I have nothing to do
with that, exactly, Like youcan't understand what I mean, Like,
oh yeah right now, but I'mgonna keep a lot of people a lot

(01:26:32):
of people with that, you knowwhat I mean. And it's like it's
like, damn, I couldn't.I couldn't say that. Freedom was like
oh shit, you know, okay, yeah that's you. Yeah, you
know what I mean, that's you. I almost want to be like damn,
I want to go to the HRand be like, yo, take
a dollar off for me and putit to put it in that it doesn't

(01:26:55):
you. You gotta think about youexactly. You know that's why I feel
people money t Yeah yeah, yeah, thinking about yourself. That's what it's
all about, because about they gonnathink about you, and you know,
it's it's such as like that.You gotta have been in the multiple multiple

(01:27:15):
situations like that, and I'm like, yeah, if I would have found
that out about you, like ohshit, yo, they think you're worth
that. Yeah, shit, shoutout to you exactly. If I knew
better, If I knew better,I do better. Yeah, you know,
it's like then let me work onme, Let me work on my
stuff so I can get there orwhatever and stuff that should be motivation.
Perhaps you don't even know what Iwant to do, but you don't turn

(01:27:36):
your back and give them a silenttreatment or whatever like it like it like
if it was them, like Ididn't know what you made before and stuff
like you know, like it's thesame thing with you know, and you
were raises and stuff like that togive out, Yeah why did I get
this? And that person got that? And then that year comes and they
go, oh, they didn't giveme a raise that I want. Watch
this. I ain't gonna do this, and I ain't gonna do that,
and I ain't gonna do this.Then that year goes by, then you

(01:27:59):
get that little three percent, andthen you're talking shit about that. But
it's because you said you wasn't gonnaSo people bury their own cells, you
know, so big I brought,I brought you time. Okay, brought
the topic earlier. I just wantto touch on it before you know,
we head out. So think Iwant everybody out there they give your top

(01:28:24):
three artists of all time real quick? Yeah, we got them a couple
of or maybe our first or secondepisode. Yeah, this is a little
different. Think of your top artistsof all time? Do you give your
top three? Right? We're talkingabout anybody? Yeah, rap for me,
just rap. Think about your topthree. I honestly think about it.

(01:28:45):
Even if you're you're at home listeningright now, you're at work listening
right now. Think about your topthree artists of all time, any genre,
it could be any genre. Honestly, didn't your top three? Now
imagine two of those top three doa whole album together, a whole album
before I even go further, awhole album produced by a couple of producers,

(01:29:09):
two and three producers only. Whatwould that sound like for you?
It doesn't matter what genre you like. It could be. It could be
country, it could be rap,It could be rock, it could be
hard rock, it could be classicrun whatever. I can imagine if we
were live, if he was likedoing live comments right now, video,

(01:29:32):
We're gonna ask this question if yourass now, even right now, even
on YouTube, post your comments,posts, whatever you want to say.
Two of your top three favorite artistsof all time do an album together?
What would that look like for you? I want to see it in the
comments, so let me know whatit looks like. I'm curious to see.

(01:29:53):
Everybody has different genres, everybody,everybody likes different artists. What does
that look like for you out there? Now? I'm gonna ask this question
for Mike first before I go tobe jail. What is that like for
you? Two are your top threeartists? What are your top three artists
of all time? Does it matterthe genre? And if those two artists
did an album, what are liketwo out of those three? What would

(01:30:14):
it feel? What would it feellike for you? My goodness. I'm
gonna say, I mean, likeI said, like when I first heard
a song, know the llege rockhim man, that I mean fire,
I mean, come on man,amazing and his voice is delivery to swagged
this and that he's my old manstuff now of him's rock him. If

(01:30:41):
you didn't know that, Yeah,that's where I came a live man.
That's the god. Um if himand I don't even think I've ever heard
them together, him a caress oroh my god, you know the way
I have things I got cooking inmy head is like, Wow, that's
the god with the knowledge race supremesover everyone together. It's like, ah,

(01:31:03):
that's the teaching involved with that,like the stale and the skills,
the skills and and just like thegodly impact that Yeah, it's insane.
How about for you, Big Jay? What so so Rocky mccarrests. For
you, Yes, that's amazing.That album would be like my mind will

(01:31:24):
be blown just hands down, God'sof War's I love that. I love
that. That's awesome. That's awesome. So on that note, if you're
too, Two of your favorite topthree artists of all time did a song?
Did did the album? I bad. What would it be called?

(01:31:45):
God's a War would be amazing,honestly for Caress and rock him. God's
a war. That's crazy, allright, that's the big Jai. What
you got? What you got?Two of your top three artists of all
time, it doesn't matter who,two out of three maybe three, And
if two of those did an albumtogether, how did that feel like for

(01:32:06):
you? It's it's hard for me. I'm not. I'm not. I'm
not even gonna put M on this. Uh, you could go there,
the top three though, he's butyou said two of them. It could
be your one eighty three, orit could be a twoenty three, or
it could be your three to two. Oh okay, So I mean they
did do a song, They didmaybe two two songs together. Like I

(01:32:26):
really loved DMX, So I thinkI think if M loved and X did
the whole album together, I thinkit'd be fire like or like I was
gonna say, even if um butit's not listening, but I'm saying it's
not, it's not, it's notreally his style. Was gonna say,
even if L and X did thealbum together, there's two different styles of
round the Fire. And then Ididn't say else and M. I said,

(01:32:48):
I said, if X and Mdid the album again, I think
it'd be fired. Oh my god, I think be fired. I'm talking
like X the Great Depression, theGreat champ the Old As you know,
if they all got even that sogo to Sleep with Fire, you know,
and that was that was just afeature and from like oh two to

(01:33:09):
like eight with Dmax from from theChamp Down uld be like amazing. I
can't even like that'd be like oneof the best albums. I got a
confession before I get I don't thinkI ever said this, but when eminem
first first came out, I literallylaughed at it. My name is I

(01:33:33):
didn't. I didn't think that wasa last I didn't think he was gonna
go as far as I could throwit right until, you know, like
I said, I was up theway or whatever. College radio shout out
to Demigods radio with apathy and allthat. At the beginning of Demigod's radio
and stuff back in the days tocollege radios, I started hearing him free
the freestyles first, when he startedgoing to these radio stations and doing the

(01:33:56):
doing the clues and doing the youknow what I mean, I was like,
I'll just so lucky. I didn'tsay it outline, just kept it
to myself because I was like,Wow, this dude, this dude,
I'd like to hear Marshal Mothers,LPM and the Great Depression X on a
not great Great Depression. No,it's dark hot that X. I mean

(01:34:24):
with eminem from like the first couple. God, that's amazing. It's amazing,
should be scary, and I don'tthink anybody ever would like put those
two like you know what I mean. It's again That's why I love hip
hop because everybody has their own opinions, and then I want to hear their
own matchups. If you out therelistening right now, what is your matchup?

(01:34:45):
What do you want to hear?On the whole album together? Everybody
has their own opinions. Nothing,it's no wrong answer, it's well you
want to hear. There's a tonof that. People will be like,
oh, this is fire. Imean like t I and Luda, imagine
Tilud the whole don't know. Ipersonally love I personally love love Asia Nas.
Yes, I don't think they're doingout together completely that one would be

(01:35:10):
amazing. They got enough songs todo a whole album together, and he's
still doing this thing being fans inunderground. If China and Immortal did the
album together, oh god, ohmy god, and I love him more.
Album Technolution. A lot of peoplewho know me my top three,
and it ranges depending on the day. Nasa, What's hell, Cannabis?

(01:35:31):
It could be cannabis, Cha,What's now? It could be what's cannabis?
Not it could be China Now it'scannabis. It ranges, it's different.
It doesn't matter how I feel.Later this year, shout out to
m Adia again, he's doing andChina what Excel album? Oh yes,

(01:35:51):
it's a Cannabis and China What's Allalbum? That's gonna freaking blow my mind.
You're not gonna hear from me frommy three weeks. I swear to
every song of that album because theyhave songs together in the past, and
they're great. Frick the songs.They're great verses with each other. They
did songs with Swaying Tech. Shoutout Swaying Tech. I love Swaying Tech.

(01:36:13):
They're They're part of the inspiration whyI do a podcast right now with
my brother Swaying Tech. Yeah exactly, They're great, but you know,
and cannabis on the whole album.Oh my god, I can't wait till
that comes out. Yea, Andpeople out there listen to this right now,
it's gonna be like, who thehell you those cannabis yourself favor check

(01:36:35):
out that mus individually to be awesome, and and for those who never heard
of cannabis, they want to hearfirst one. I here retarded. I
personally think he's the only one toto match out Hell in the battle.

(01:36:56):
I'm not gonna say who won.I think care if it's one. Obviously,
I'm a Cannis fan, he said, j thinks because he's out fan.
Yeah yeah, yeah, But Budd, he said, I'm RiPP before
your Vanguard Award, in front ofyour bonds, your first, second and
third ball, make your wife home, whatever, whatever the case is,

(01:37:16):
I said, nah, he startedit. That's fire. But that two
on an album together produced were you? But well, we were talking about
by it and he has I'm sorryhe has Johnny something beats. I forget

(01:37:40):
to day john and Blake now becauseobviously, again we're talking about it,
I forget about it. But oncewe were off air, I'm thinking about
it. Yeah exactly. So it'slike Johnny something beats and there's two bangers,
have maybe one or two beats onhere. Possibly as somebody else the
albums would be said that will neverhappened. No, that's gonna happen.

(01:38:01):
It's that one's gonna happen. That'swhat I wanted to get here. For
me, I want to get everybodyelse's reaction about that, because I'm lucky.
Two of my favorite three artists ofall time for rats, are doing
an album together. That's so rare. And there's some people in the world
that love Eminem right, and yousaid genre don't matter. Yeah, and

(01:38:23):
that's that same person that loves Eminembecause love Prince. Now, Matt,
you understand, So man, thereis no wrong answer. Imagine imagine Eminem
off of print and the damn guitaror something like God. Now imagine like
there's some people out there they werelike m J and Prince on an album.
Yeah, you imagine Michael Jackson andPrince on the whole album. How
to sell an album of all timethat would be amazing? And Carlo Sington,

(01:38:48):
Oh my god, I didn't wantto be amazing, just instrumental,
just gonna make Brazilian nights album.They even gotta say they were just instrumental,
just the saxophone with a guitar.But all we're doing it's amazing.
Well for me, I'm lucky enoughto see that. And I want to
say I prophesized that I don't atMad He's gonna say different, and I

(01:39:10):
don't know if he'll ever hear this, but I've been saying that for the
past two years. On his post, I was like, give me a
Cannabis. She know what's out albumabout twelve songs, and I've got posted
about it. I can look itup. A whole album with them two
with one feature from Kren. NowI will pay fifty hours for an album.

(01:39:30):
Wow, that's a lot. Iwould pay fifty bucks on the album
album if am Mortals on the album, be amazing too, But just them
two alone. They already started thestudio sessions for it. Wow, the
ever started it, So I followedone to follow Cannabis on the socials they
ever started the studio sessions for it. I can't wait till albums out.

(01:39:51):
You guys won't even hear from mefor about couple of years, you know
where it said. They're like,yeah, now I'll listen to this album
real quick. Sorry and yeah,man, like I said, you know
people that are still doing it,man, the Ross cars and so many
it's a lot man. And likeI said, this this there's still a
community that does the priest. Youknow, it's supportable and um, you

(01:40:16):
know the whole thing with m Adwhen he was trying to fight for the
Wou Tang stuff from that that pharmaceuticaldude, that pharmaceutical dude that took that
he had bought the Wu Tang catalog. I don't remember that. I probably
read about it, but it was. It was. It was on a
documentary and everything. This was thatpharmaceutical dude that he raised up the HIV

(01:40:38):
medication seven. Really yeah, itwas like it was some young evil dude
I forgot his name or whatever.He bought for some reason. I don't
know how he did. He boughtthe catalog, the Wu Tang catalog,
but he had it and he wascoaxing it in the air for like a
million dollars or whatever. M Adkind of stepped in there. It was
like funangling some deals and actually gotthat back from them. O good.

(01:41:01):
Yeah, somebody in the pharmaceutical industrydoes not need and it's it's some young
dude that everything got he inherited everythingor whatever. And it's a documentary on
it too though, And I checkedand ghost Face got into it real heavy
because his mom was one of thepatients that were on that medication he raised

(01:41:24):
up. It was like a seventydollars medication that now was like four hundred
and fifty dollars. That's some wildstuff or whatever. But yeah, that's
that's a whole another size. Thepharma industry is in saying that's a whole
of the podcast episode, like younever thought you were here, pharmaceutical company,
the Woutang catalogs in the same sentence. But yeah, yeah, it's
rare. Yeah, that's yeah,e J podcast. We're here where Mike

(01:41:47):
mash real eye shout out miss you. The CI guards were fired. Yeah,
good right, you probably heard mecall from the area. We one
listening, man. I appreciate youhears man. I appreciate your ears once
again. Mike Nash real life man, take it, take your boy and
listen. Let me know I'm onall um, all platforms. Mike Nash,

(01:42:10):
Real life, Mike Nash. Um. It's kind of funny because if
you type in. Just Mike Nash, there's a country cigarette him. Shout
out to that dude. Man,you got a few streams for me.
I heard yourself. But yeah,it's Mike Nash. Real eye the letter
I and Instagram, Twitter on thatthing. Yeah, take out to it and

(01:42:33):
have here many We love it,appreciate it. We're gonna have you back.
We want to hear the album.Yeah, obviously said time. Check
it out people. Yeah, andI'm gonna cook up. I'm gonna cook
up promo for you guys. Hey, um and for the listeners. Man,
storry. We didn't get too toomany sports and stuff. But I
will be back. Oh no,for sure. Especially we'll get to see

(01:42:56):
if you come back. Just tomake sure you come back, I would
patriot man, he's coming back.He's coming back to mac Castle, the
whole team. So Mike Mash comingback next week and bring him back next
week, bringing back next weeks likecoming back. Hey, watch out for

(01:43:18):
my boys. Man, it's notwhy my jones. We could have started
to hold on. We're gonna holdit, were gonna hold it. You
don't come back before this because seasonstarts. No, definitely be back,
He's not people before we let yougo, and I was gonna ask you

(01:43:39):
if started to show to throw youoff, but I forgot because he was
getting in the combo. I don'twant to bring it out for you because
we had an episode, one ofour early episodes, episode two, I
want to say, we talked aboutour top five ever for hip hop.
Yea that that we got to haveanother one because that episode, which I

(01:43:59):
love it, we could have goingfor it was so distorted, it was
so all over the place. We'restill trying to get to feel the whole
place it was with each other.So yeah, if you know, tell
you what's your five five? Shutout the craig Man. Shout out,
Craig, Craig, get your rightsback here, bro, but get your
top five and explain your top five. We didn't do that. We just
gave us have five. We didn'texplain. We didn't explain why that's top

(01:44:23):
five. Right, So before yougo, no bias, no mainstream answer,
because I know the main stream answeris like big j Yeah, I
don't want to hear that. Iwant to hear your personal time. Unless
that is your top five personal what'sthere's no problem with that. Yeah,
I want to hear your personal topfive. Who did you listen to on

(01:44:43):
a regular on a regular Um,I mean so far as my era and
stuff. Um, I appreciate everythingjay Z did. I'm gonna put jay
Z at number one, all right, one, I'm gonna put him at
number one. I'm gonna playing onnumber one. Um, you know what
I mean. It's it's just certainthings that he did, certain things.
I mean, he's it is whatit is, um too. I'm gonna

(01:45:08):
go with Buster. Yes he wasuh yes, yes, yes, he's
a sleeper that shouldn't even be sleptdown because if you know, you know,
you know what I mean. MostYeah, it's the most animated,
um, controversial visual I mean,he gave you so much crazy visuals,
you know what I mean, Andhe opened up the doors for that and
stuff. And when he where heshowed you the librical Buster. I mean,

(01:45:32):
he's he's not even matched even tothis day. He's the feature killer,
you know what I mean. Hegoes into he goes into features and
heat just kills stuff. Um.Three, hate to be biased when I'm
gonna say Biggie wasn't wasn't out toolong and you know, too long or

(01:45:53):
whatever, But just the impact hehad on those two albums for people to
keep speaking by people. It hasthe whole weight, It has the whole
weight. So three, I'm gonnago biggie just because of those two albums
holding so much weight that people canstill talk about it and stuff. So
just imagine what would have been andstuff. Um, So we got so,

(01:46:15):
we got Jay, we got Um, we got Wow. Yeah yeah
Wow, Yes sir, Um,I'm not four four Um, we're gonna
We're gonna straight lyrics and stuff.Um, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
go um rock him. Okay.So like I said, like I said,

(01:46:38):
I follow the leader. Uh No, the lleged them joints made me
man like. You know what Imean. It's real smooth assassin, real
lybrical. You know what I'm saying. Lyrics a fury when it's one of
his joints. Um, and thenI'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with
cannabis. Man, what I'm notgonna lie. Really, you the only

(01:47:00):
other person I ever heard. Yeah, I'm not saying he's trash. I
just haven't heard. It's because Iknew where I know where he could have
been. You know what I mean, you know, that whole running with
White Cleff I think shouldn't have happened, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, he kind of liketrying to commercial trying to trying to
come up, trying to commercialize themtop five it is it's um. You

(01:47:28):
know that that that first Round knockoutwas taking this. I mean it's I
mean second Round knockout. I meanthat I appreciated that, honestly, that's
one of the top battle songs.But besides no Vaseline and then hit them
Up and all that stuff, andI mean people still mentioned that song,
they mentioned that song. And thenI heard the album that Get be Tarted.

(01:47:49):
It's like boom, It's like it'sreally slept on album. It could
have been better. Yeah yeah,yeah, let's slept On album. Yeah,
the Patriot um, all those joints, man, it was like it
it was ridiculous. He was putin the wrong place. And then yeah
oh yeah yeah yeah, and thencannabis not being in his right mind at
the time and stuff with the wholeyou know, because he thought Eminem wrote

(01:48:13):
for l right on that the Dishtrack. Yeah, it was a whole
shit going out. Yeah yeah,and he kind of went out there a
little bit, you know with thewhole Manchurian candidate thing and all that stuff.
And so now you got you gotMic nashes to top five. Yeah,
yeah, want to go tomorrow.It might be another five, might
be different. It ranges, that'swhy. For the real hip hop listeners

(01:48:35):
out there, Yeah, the topfive ranges every day. It does.
But for me personally, before Igo to Jay's Top five, now it's
Canniba Top three all time. Yeah, that ranges, no matter what,
once or three, four or fiveranges between a whole bunch of artists every
day. It depends on how I'mfeeling. So I got being Fun in
there, got Red Man in there, I got Met the Man in there.

(01:48:57):
That's what it is. That kindof like different cagories five. I
mean, I got CA Arrests inthere, obviously, one of my favorite
busters between six and seven. Igot a z up in there. Jada
kiss Is obviously, you know,pushing the top five. There's so many
artists out there. It's hard toput out your all top five. It's

(01:49:19):
so many. Fat Joe I loveFat Joe more than other people. I
love the beating nuts more than otherpeople. They got good songs. They
got good a lot of tracks.Ice Team was on drink Chams recently he
was like the Beating Us got oneof the hardest tracks of all time.
It's called Rain of the Tech.Listen to Rain the Tech. It's one

(01:49:39):
of the hardest songs of all time. One of the most gates of songs
of all time. If you likethe time gates of music, they got
one of the best ones of alltime. I mean, I like most
death, I like comming a lot, so my time my top five always
ranges, varies, man, itvaries every day, how you feeling.
But my top three would ever change. Nas China would say, oknnabis untouched.

(01:50:00):
I would put them against anybody industry, wherever you like out there,
they could be there. I'm sorry. My fifth one is always interchanging.
My fourth one is Kerin Now.Krino has really slept on. It's from
Houston Now. If you watch videosCardface, it's always given the props,
little flip, given them, props, commilitaire, given Krino props like this

(01:50:24):
dude is a rapper. He's oneof the best storytellers I've heard in my
life. He has a whole sagaof about a Wizard versus a Sorcerer.
If you listen to the whole song, it's about eight or nine songs spread
out between albums. It's damn amazing. The storytelling that he has and the

(01:50:44):
lyricism he has, it's amazing.Check him out and the way thing you
have to Tony check out ka Rinoused to Texas the rapper. He's amazing.
One of the best songs I've heardwas called bass Akwords, and he
says stuff that doesn't a match butgoes together so clearly. So it's kind
of like Nazis rewind. Nah,it's different. It's totally different. Now's

(01:51:08):
rewind. It's a whole different.Now's rewind. Was like, yeah,
but this is like totally different.So, I mean a couple of bars
is like, hey, I'm theonly due to let a park car hit
him, like a part car hityou ye, stuff like that, Yeah,
yeah, exactly. Like he'll ringthe bell once he's inside the house
or we're knock on the door oncehe's inside the house. It's so random,

(01:51:30):
but it's so awesome. You know, it's crazy. Check it out,
kare you know if you guys haven'theard check him out. His dope
artist again. My top five alwaysranges from anybody, but Jay, how
about you um again. Eventually we'lldo an episode where we break down our
top five why you know songs,you know, lyrics versus whatever it is

(01:51:53):
we're talking about it one day.Well my top three, well, my
top three would never change. It'salways gonna be uh m l Dmax,
So that that will never change.I'll always be the same. That's the
elite Top three and four. Alot of tuparc like tuopoc a lot.
I like fifty a lot. Soif I'm golable or not, fifty deserves

(01:52:14):
like fifty. But I also liketwelve fifty fifty O change interchangeable with number
five, but him a little Waynefrom me? So M that's how it's
funny about that. You say thatI saw a post the other day,
who's better? Oh three fifty twothousand and three or two thousand and seven?
Little Wayne? Oh seven was thecarter three Who's better? This is

(01:52:36):
the mean day? And that's howI was like, Oh, that's tough.
If you say oh, if yousay oh two, if you say
um, oh four little Wayne andoh three fifty is definitely all four of
the Wayne that's when the Carter twofil what softy three fifty was a massacrey,
wasn't it? The all three fiftywas given to that triumph and the

(01:52:58):
g and the album well Beat andthe whole slew of freestyles that he put
on you know, fun Flags,Clue all the others. But little Wings,
Little Wings album the quarter two thatyear was just beas better than the
fifties run. It's kind of eveneven not even little Wayne will be able
to not even m at a certainpoint with top that run. For people

(01:53:20):
were just on a who was ona high flight half like for a year
and a half. He was ona high like that. It's kind of
hard to top that um that thatrun fifty was on that year. So
what do you think about that?Mate? So I saw meet the other
day Big j gave his top three. Yes, so it's m dmx as

(01:53:40):
Adam ro mentions for top five ora little way in fifty. So interesting,
Well he said that I thought ofa mean, that's all the other
day on Facebook? Who was betterold three fifty or old seven Little Way?
And it's so tough because all seventhway was everywhere, but someone's all
three Fifty's I can't feel my faceway like they had. He had to

(01:54:08):
drop three, he had to dropone, one and two was fired.
But like I said, it's hard. It's hard because fifty was on everything.
Like you said, he dropped thatJune album because on he was on
Games album. It's hard at themixtape than it was, like, yeah,
it's hard to talk. He waslike everybody's mixtape that. I don't
think nobody that year order for whateverthe top that fifty was on it for

(01:54:30):
like a year and a half.That like a year and a half,
nobody, nobody top that. There'sa video. There's a video you gotta
look at out social media, lookingup on YouTube. Probably it said what
was jay Z ever the best rappercharting? He tried to charting? I
saw that and it breaks it downfrom ninety six all the way to two

(01:54:51):
thousand and nine. He wasn't thatone. It was never number one,
number one or number two, andat that head Yeah, you talk about
like so a little way. Hehad a bunch of those years and fifty
had a bunch of those years.Yeah, dmx D Max had a lot
of those years. In the firstthree years from ninety eight all the way
to like to because he was theone probably jay Z was jay Z doing

(01:55:13):
his thing, but he was nevercharting that number one exactly. People that
realized that, like when you reflectthat and you started, you started,
you start thinking about it, justI see the fastest, like hold on.
At that time, he wasn't onenumber one. He was one of
the hot one of the hot one, but that number one that that do
you know what I mean? AndI think he knew that at the time.
That's why he wouldn't not. Yeah, he had. He had to

(01:55:34):
know that at that time because nowit wasn't even out at that time.
Well even jay Z even said ona radio thing he was telling what he
was telling damon him. Yo,we gotta hurry up because he's dud fifty
man, he's gonna Yeah, Isaw I saw that. That's amazing video
check that out. Yeah, alot of people never start fifty fifties cover.

(01:55:55):
Yeah, we gotta hurry up anddo our think sit up, yeah
exactly, And then sure how hegot on. He locked damn up.
He really he really locked it up. Man. The thing going to the
club with when it first came outClub for Good, I honestly like white
step better than in the club.Yeah, a little harder, and those
are the club and days exactly goingout to the city and wild out.

(01:56:16):
My goodness, I could imagine that. I'm a little for that. Oh
five, I was, you know, senior in high school. I wasn't
doing all that. I wasn't.Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can
get into this topic. We'll talkabout it for hours and hours. Definitely.
Once again, people to just tuningin now. I hope you didn't
just tune in. Now we're herewith Mike Nash real eye. He's coming
back for more hardist CT artists.Big up. He's a pass fair so

(01:56:40):
we gotta bring him back. Sooh yes, yes, yes, yes
you played facey football. Last episodewas talking about face football. So I
gotta ask everybody that comes out.I'm trying to dabble into it or whatever,
but I happen't done it. It'sa lot of different avenues for fantasy
right now because they got the better. Yeah you got you got Draft Kings,

(01:57:02):
and you got fan Duel. They'reall, you know, doing some
good bets on there. You haven'tone. Yeah, you think boy Love
gonna do? Who? I don'tknow. I don't know. Hold that,
Hona, hold that episode thing?What you know? What happened?

(01:57:25):
What have you? Mike mash Backalong with some other football heads, we'll
have what. We'll have a bigthing. We'll talk about it before the
before the beginning of the season.Because this season's gonna be it. It's
gonna be that's weird. Teasing isgonna be different. It's gonna be honestly,
an AFC more dominantly. So theNFC is wide over, man,
there's I mean, the only teamin the NFC that's good is the Eagles.

(01:57:47):
And I hate to say it,but the Eagle is the only good
team. And the Cowboys with theRams. Cowboys, No, I don't
see it. Um the Rams seenthem a little too old, see them
questioning that. Man. I neverliked that. That's okay, I never
personally liked them. We'll see wherethat goes. I said, we can.

(01:58:08):
That's a whole that's a whole topicfor the whole other show. Don't
get into that. We we gotmore. No one still picked up Ezekiel
Ye still free crazy. We workedon Leonard four yesterday. I don't mind.
I don't mind. Behind Ramandre manMondre's a beast man. I'll take
that all day. I like romandhe gave me some good fancy points.

(01:58:30):
Believe it or not. Didn't.We'll talk about it again because this we
keep going with this and said forthe hip hop hands man, I appreciate
your ears. Man. Check itout, guys, Mike Nash, Spotify,
Apple YouTube, my Heart Radio YouTube, whatever you are, check out
Mike Nash. Real life music isfire. And I don't say that lately.

(01:58:53):
I'm very picky people who don't me. I'm very picking on my head.
No, I know this too,though, people. I'm very picking
my hip hop and even local artists. The only other local artists that I
actually love are the autobots on theBritain. That's it, okay, because
I used to have a radio showback at Hertford and three at Trinity College.
That's old. I used to hatethe way it's talking on Facebook about

(01:59:13):
that. But that's not a story. I used to write it all caps,
man, I hate made you,yeah exactly. So those are only
local artists I would freaking back onyou. Was that. That's it?
And I like Chris Webby. Ilike Ampathy because they do good music.
But the way that I like theAutobots music the way that I like your

(01:59:35):
music. It's on a different levelbecause I know you guys are just top
tier. Yes, yes, yes, and that is no to keep it
ready to r that is no bullshit. That means a lot, brother.
So I mean, you just won'tbe the last time here. Mike Nas
He's gonna be back sooner. People, man, come back. We're still
talking about I'm coming on the watertime. We're talking about that. So

(01:59:57):
um so I had no check outthe other E and J podcast shows.
We got a bunch. We gotan NBA Draft special from a couple of
months ago talking about the draft.We got a couple of episodes right here,
it's popping up on YouTube. Wegot a couple about the fantasy football
and the fantasy football. Yeah,we got a couple of how we first
started, about how we first startedto get into the whole podcast and talking
about sports, talking about this,talking about ut out Apple podcast. Honestly,

(02:00:20):
do anything we don't talk. Wetouch on everything. Anything we don't
touch on there's politics because who different. So yeah, yeah, but thanks
for tuning in. Maybe we'll getthere, Maybe we'll get there. Appreciate
you guys, tuning in, checkus out Instagram, e Ja podcast,

(02:00:40):
Twitter, you nice as zero,Mike Nash give out your handles, bro,
Yes, sir, appreciate you man, Thanks for having me. Guys.
What what what are you? OnInstagram? Mike nashalize yeah, Mike
Nash real line um this on Facebook? On Instagram. I just started threads
the same thing, start threads andstarted zero, testing it out or whatever.

(02:01:01):
I never was a Twitter guy,so I'm kind of I'm kind of
dabbling with that. I'm thinking aboutposting tiktoks. I don't I don't know.
I'm not big on TikTok. Yeahyeah, I'm hafty baller on TikTok.
I just found out my music isstreaming on TikTok. As a start,
I'm gonna started, yeah yeah,yeah yeah. I've been working on
trying to get my stuff. That'sa whole of the avenue of getting music
playing. Because for about almost ayear, the beat Nuts had one of

(02:01:27):
the songs yeah are there. Peoplewere doing that as a trend and they
were trending for about almost a year. Wow. And when you trend for
almost a year, you get money. Oh not definitely hit you up.
So shout out the Beating Nuts,you know Jujus. I love those guys.
One of my favorite groups of alltime. Yeah, that's another topic
front of the day. Yeah,groups of favorite I'm groove up time.
Wow, that's a whole another thing. Yeah. Topic for the people's out

(02:01:50):
there on TikTok and stuff or whatevertype in Mike Nashville, I or my
songs pop up. If you postsomething with my music or whatever, I'll
definitely hit you up some rises orsomething. I definitely definitely hit you off
with something. Let us know.We gotta we gotta intro with the words
with my nash We don't know.Ye, it's gonna be fire. It's

(02:02:11):
gonna be fire. Oh yeah,did you guys listened out there? So
to go back on what I saidlast week, if you're listening right now
at this point of the show,if you want to join our fantasy league,
the keyword is hefty baller, youget fifty dollars off nice. So
whoever wants to join fantasy, you'reserious about fantasy. We're doing a ring
this year, So whoever want youknow, if you want to drink or

(02:02:34):
whatever, hefty balls the cold wordmessage me, I got you get an
interest to our league for a hundredbucks, I'll lead this one hundred fifty
dollars. That's you know, that'sweird for a lot of people. A
lot of people are like, youknow, twenty five fifty bucks for our
fantasy. If we do one fifty, it's official. If you ever heard
it yet, let's join our lastepisode gotta be fire keyword, hefty baller

(02:02:57):
fifty dollars off. So my nest, if you want to join, you
can't use the password target. ButI'm definitely looking to it though. Fantasy
football is awesome. We talked aboutit last week. Makes you see football
in a different yeah, yeah,yeah, definitely. But on that note,
Patriots Packers gonna be top end ofthe division. Let's go. That's

(02:03:19):
how we had to y'all till nextweek. People hashtag pass baby, Let's go.

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