Episode #20 Hip Hop convo w/ E-Nice & Positive ID

Excuse my drunkeness on this podcast lol, but i had a great time talking some hip hop with CT Artist Positive ID.

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Episode Transcript

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Yes, sir, what do Igotta pull the mic towards me more?
Oh? That was that was goodRick course from that far mhm right with

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a special episode Big Hobe coming through, Big Sean positive. ID what's going
on? It's up Bro doing good, Man doing good. Hell, yeah,
I know I did call for thepodcast. I'm totally down, know
ship, I ain't got nothing todo, Bro, It's awesome my show
just to end. I just dida show out in Tornon. That's amazing.

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I don't even know where you were. I probably would have popped through,
honestly. Yeah. It's it's calledthe Outlet for Arts. It's a
church turned studio in venue. It'sright over where where you can bring your
kids to seeing Santa Claus. Theywanted to no, no, no,
the Christmas Village they call it.So you know where the y m c
a Is and Torrenton, it's rightup that way. Yeah, you go

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up to the y, go toChristmas Village where you can bring your kids.
Just she saying in the Reindeers andship in the church is right around
the corner. That's awesome. That'sawesome. Yeah, I saw you performed.
I know where you were. Yeah, shout. I asked for that
ship. Yeah, I thought youwere across the state. No, no,
I I would have to go seeit. But so I actually had

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like a New England tour plan backin the day, but COVID killed it.
I was gonna do Maine, RhodeIsland, all that ship. And
I was like, you know,COVID just fucking killed the whole time.
Yeah, so it sucked. Yeah, put your back, you know,
put your back by at least threeyears. Yeah. And you know what
I ended up doing is I wrotea lot of poetry. I couldn't get

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out and do shows. Yep.I got like a draward full. Now,
so my dad's trying to gave meto publish a book, so I
may do that. I may publisha book. Bro, it's not that
you do that. You have toshould never know. Hell, yeah,
you never know. Yeah that mightexplode awesome. Yeah, hell you got
you gotta do it, you gotto. I do a lot of a

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lot of shows. I've been freestylingactually since the age of eight years old.
Bro, eight years old. Yeah, I was eight years old and
I went on stage at my aunt'swedding and I had to play some ship
from signing the family stone and Ifreestyle and I'll never forget my dag on
off the Top, dude, Inever forget my dag going the hell is

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this? Like? He was likeblown away, like what's going on off
the off the top bro? Andhonestly hip hop and you know, study
hip hop. There's not too manythat could do that. Yeah, well,
you know's something you can do.I feel like he's an old art
that people don't care about it anymore. I think you don't you say that,
right, People do care about it, it's just the mass is.

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The mass is the huge group ofpeople who don't care about it right right,
Like because they are the radio.They don't know, they don't know
better. The radio definitely doesn't careexactly. I mean, honestly, I
don't know if people even realize.I'm pretty sure I can't say for sure
one hundred percent because obviously I wasn'tjay Z's man, I wasn't Biggies man.
I didn't know him. But Iwas always told they never even wrote

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anything. Now, they just wentin the booth, really came with it
every time. So I remember onetime a guy said to me, oh,
it's jay Z. You're you know, uh, your influencer, idol
or whatever them like. Honestly,I don't want to sell like an asshole,
but I'm not really a jay Zfan, to be honest, which
a lot of rappers don't like that. I don't like j Z. It's

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not that I don't like jay Z, but I think jay Z is a
business man and he fucking kills thebusiness man for sure, but he's not
really to me. He's not arapper. I'm gonna bump in my ride
when I'm driving around time. He'snot that that. That's rough unless first

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album all day, but after that, sure, yo, do you know?
And I shouldn't even say this onthe air because it's really not okay.
I actually wrote a disc track forjay Z no way, yes,
And obviously I didn't put it outthere because people were like, show,
don't do the career suicide whatever,who cares? But who cares? Honestly

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in a couple did he really?So? In the song I said something
about, uh, he he's onlybeing kept around to see how the babies
come out, and Beyonce, yeah, yeah, it's not really right.
He bro it's not really right.And and at one point I like crucified

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him a little bit, right,because remember there was a point in time
when he called himself Jehovah. SoI'm not religious. I don't want to
say that on air where it soundsbad. I'm not religious, but I'm
not religious. I wouldn't say Idon't believe in God. I just don't
believe in the written book that's handedto me. And I have trouble with
church. I have trouble with thechurch. Right there alone is a whole

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of the episode. Because for real, religion is man made. That's what
I'm saying. I've got a bigreligious guy who knows God and what it
stands for. Religion is man made, honestly in a weird way. I
feel like it's invented to make usfeel more comfortable with the end. That's

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my thoughts. I got myself ina lot of trouble for it, but
that's my thoughts, right. Andthen so in the disc of jay Z,
I got a little bit rough bro. I said something about if you
were real, if you were areal soldier, I would have known you,
right. And as you're talking toyou calling yourself Jehovah, I said

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something about on himself up on thecross. I'm like to fight out who's
really bosh Like I wasn't fucking around. I'm not gonna lie. I wrote
a whole fucking three four pages justgoing after j and people are like,
no, no, and don't don'tdo that. Yeah, like okay,
so like obviously he's a credit tohip hop. I can't deny that.

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Okay, I can't deny who's comeunder his wings. I can't deny these
things. But you know what's funny. And nobody agrees with this. I
know they don't, but I don'tcare. I like Beanie better, Bro.
I like Beans better than Jay Idid. I really did. And
when Naswa came with Ether, Isaid, yes, kill him, let's

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go. I didn't care. Peopledidn't like it, but I didn't care.
Oh that's that's so hard to Ilike Beans. I liked Beans better
Bro. I was like, man, this dude ain't got ship going on.
There's a lot of people. Yeah, I just couldn't. When people
came after him and they were likejoking around about the fact that he named

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his company after Rockefella. You know, they were all like Rockefella, just
that and the other thing. Iwas kind of like, I don't really
know if I care about that part. I just care that he's not who
he really says he is to adegree. That's another thing that I'll get
people mad at me. And here'swhy I say this. Do you remember

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when he first came out, hehad a different flow, all right,
he was a copy of Ways sulcierytJazz. Oh right, he was right.
He did not sound like he doesnow obviously right now. Not to
sound bad, but I do agree, and I think it was Nasa said
Biggie's lyrics keep coming out of yourmouth or whatever. Right, fact,

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well, I hate to say it, but I think he really did kind
of steal Biggie's flow a little bitin some of his newer shit, Like
it didn't sound like Jay anymore.Like the people that know that, I'm
like, sorry, hey, bro, but I don't think this is it.
This isn't it. Bro. You'relike, you sound like Biggie,
Like you're trying to bite Biggie smalls, and nobody wants to bite somebody,

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although nowadays it's okay. Apparently nowadaysit's like that that'sable. Now you can
Bro. That was like, yeah, now you can bite everybody, and
you can get famous by being snitched. Nine, I don't get that.
Snitching was never okay and we foundright, we proved it normal. In

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the original history of hip hop,we've proved that snitching was not okay.
It was never okay. They evenhad to stop stitching campaign and people,
what was it little Kim that timeback in the day when she didn't say
nothing and she took her heat andyou know, I mean, yeah,

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I don't understand, and you knowwhat, and if fifty was snitching,
that's not okay. But I'll tellyou what that that dude got some lyrics.
Bro, I love oh yeah,I love fifty fifty fire back right
for me personally, Yes, Ithink Game is the better rapper. So
Mike Game is the better rapper thanfifty. So I think Game is better,

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and I think Game. I thinkfifty and Gina made a mistake by
letting him go. That's you knowwhat's crazy. They didn't let him go
officially, Yeah, until you startdis jute right right, because when they
signed, when he got when theysigned Game, there was in the middle

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of all the yes, the fatJoe beef and beef. They didn't know
how fifty. They didn't know howbad. They didn't know how game was
gonna switch on that and he didn'tlike it. He didn't want to do
it. He didn't want to withit and them off. Is that dude?
Yeah? Came as fred Jie doespecially the original Fat Joe. The

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original Fat Joe is not that dude, the beast, but the street Joe
Joe. Yeah, guy, yeahJoe, that guy for real, dude,
he'll hit you without you know,being on a wax. Now,
how do you feel about Joe Rollfifty? Are you a joy Role fan?

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Because I am to a degree,I am to a degree. I
can't disagree. Yes, I havejo to agree because that's what Drake is
right now, right, that's true. That's what yeah said that R and
B Yeah, rapid Yeah, funny, that's funny because you're not wrong.

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People loved it until fifty. Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong, dude,
exactly. People people love can Iask ask here? Yeah? Okay,
So it's funny you say that sofifty Yeah, so it's funny you
say this. So I like fiftybetter than job Rule, but I don't

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dislike job Roll. I don't nowhis first ship. His first ship,
though, was not the same ashis last ship. You noticed that,
right, Jos's first ship was morelike I want to be d MX.
Remember, I was more hollo,Yeah, I feel it more than oh

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see, I thought it was DMX, But I mean you could go for
both. Yeah. Well, Imean when Joe Roll did the pledge,
I saw POC, I said,what the fuck's the one? Yeah,
I was like, why is pWhy is pop being regenerated? I was
like, no, And I'm toobig of a Pock fan for that not
to upset me. I'm not gonnalie so that that was an issue,
Like, I'm like, no,Pok's my favorite rapper of all time.

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You can't. He can't be touchedby any other APPA. Have you ever
heard of black Haye? He soundsexactly like Tupac. I'm I'm sorry,
dude, No, please don't no, because at that point you're fucking around
with some bullshit that's not okay.All right. If real Tupac fans are
okay with somebody like that, they'renot real period. But I did really

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like job rules second and third autum, I think, and he did do
a lot of ladies joints, youknow, with the singing chicks and whatever.
There's nothing wrong with that. Ido nothing. And he had like
little excerpts of it sounded like prayersto me, which see that's where the

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d m X thing comes. Thatsounds like hold on second, He's sound
a lot of like ax me.Honestly, those albums probably the wall right
there behind you, and I meanhonestly, job rule and this is definitely
gonna pisss off. I would popjob roll on my player for jay Z.

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Got any playing my ride, Bro, that's a job rolls. Not
even that one of most people smashthat page it all day before I bought
jay Z in my ride ro ifjay Z don't even go with my ride
bro. If you guys are listeningright now, it's nice part of the
e J podcast bit shout of thebig j can't be can't be here right

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now. He's indisposed, he's humanspirit. Yeah, he would agree with
you right now. Yeah, thatcan't be the same that he would prefer.
Yeah, jay Z is not preferredto job role. To make that,
I would take job first, Likeif you gave me the disc,
all right, if you were myride, hold on it from before we

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go forward. I can't play brobefore you go forward. Yeah yeah,
yeah, it's not a flawed logic. It is not it's not a flawed
logic. Yeah yeah. But tosay that you completely take j over Jah
is wild. And actually jay Zdoesn't even get played in My ride.
Period's wild. It's like a metasociety movie when he flips out the cat

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and Chy doesn't get played. Shoutout, big, jud No, no,
you know what you know, it'scrazy. I love Jah, Yeah
yeah, bore Than, I loveDrake. I think this This is a
separate situation. Yeah yeah, yeah, a separate subject. I like Jaw

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Bore the Drake, and they ableto say the type of rapper. They
are the same to a son.You can judge me how you want.
But I want to see the commentsbelow. You see this post below.
I want to see Ja because I'mabout to make some other hip hop fans.
Man. Let's go. Let's Drakedon't get played either, brother,

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it doesn't, it doesn't, honestly, dude. Okay, So Drake's from
Canada, right, yea Canada.My favorite rapp from Canada is Mercurleys.
Bro, That's who is my favorite. That dude talks to me, he
got some ships. I like that. Dude, bro, and I don't

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feel like he gets enough you know, you know it doesn't get enough love.
Like people don't know him. Peopleare like, who's Mercurley's fat?
That's big facts, but fuck thatMercurleys is way better than drinking my bad.
No. So I don't know,and I love I love this right

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now, I really, I reallydo. Yeah. The boys showing right
here positive ideas if you yeh,it's good to disagree ye, but breakfast
nice, so honestly breakfast nice.Yeah. So another up. I don't
know. I don't think he's betterthan drinking situation and Drakes and the the

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guy that doesn't get playing my ride. Bro, I don't even touch a
song. Bro, I agree withyou. It's not even my rotation.
That's no, he's not in myrotation because that touch your old joint,
that ship should go somewhere doesn't getplayed. All right, Bro, I'm
good. My video my videographer,yeah yeah, kind of tested that Drake

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and d Now now there is onething I'll has a few virtues. I
was like, do I like murculateso much? Because he talks to me?
I'm like, yo, yes,right, the feelings he has like
that deep ship. That's why Ilike him. Sure, I'm like,
oh yeah, yeah, I getthat. That's how I feel. Yeah,

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like versus he'll talk right to likea reflection almost sitting there going damn,
how does motherfucking know me? Shehas the song with is from c
Apathy. Oh I love Apathy too. I opened for that motherfucker bro Yo
versus Yo. That dude doesn't getenough credit for Connecticut Yo. That Apathy

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dude versus Sorry, he doesn't getenough credit Apathy And I've not hated.
No, you don't get enough creditin this motherfucker bro, but probably one
of the best gods. Have youever seen or heard the Dummy Gods live?
Of course, dude, I've neverseen them live. I can't lie.
Blackish stay on r I p Manrecipes. I was down with that

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whole crew. I opened form lunch. My god, I was so having
a good night. Honestly, Ihad a question for you. Sure.
I was there at the Started House, at the Started House house performance spaghetti
Wearhouse, Warehouse at Hartford. Yeah, it's that spaghetti I was there.

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Were you there? I was?I was there. I was there.
Brom so mad about that dude.Slaughterhouse gone, No, I was there,
so there my boys before Fire.Oh yeah, then Starterhouse came out.
Yes, Crook It Crooked is myfavor dude out of them. To

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be honest, I love to bebiased because I love I do Love't get
me wrong, Crooked. Crooked.Crooked speaks to me differently in a little
bit of a different way because Iwas maybe the biggest Death Row fan that
I know. Really Okay, whenDeath Row collapsed and there wasn't a lot

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going on anymore, and the Crookedcame out with his little hood star and
was like I'm a hood star.I was like, whoa wait a minute,
maybe death was not dead? Yeah, fact, I love Crooked bro
I when he had like his littleunderground ship, what was the circle of
bosses? And uh, it waslike what did the thought the house first

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came out? Ship? I can'teven but I loved probably that that was
at Fire. I was at thatshow in Hartford. Yeah, Warehouse,
I was there too, buddy aswell. How would you know that facts
facts? I had? And thenpoint three shirt yeah yeah crazy Indian three

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right and I just wore it justto wear it. Yeah yeah, real
quick story for anybody else. Wego for it there before before that concert,
that bet and there Part three eitherI was feeling myself. Nothing wrong
with that at all, No,not at all. If you're feeling yourself
out there is one for yourself withyou on that for yourself needs to be

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no matter what it needs to bedone, Bro, just push you da
about there, no matter what youlistener a thousand listeners. Hell yeah,
put your name out there. Iagree with that, dude. I say
that, and I love that.I say that with the bottom of my
heart. I love you know.I'm not gonna lie, bro, tonight

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was not good for crowd. Wewere performing for other rappers, but in
a weird way. This is whatI think and say to me, an
artist cash to love the music enoughto perform for no one exactly right,
And if you don't, you coulddo that, and you're in the wrong
business. If you could do that, you could, right. So Yeah,

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I agree with I know thought Iwas coming three four weeks in Evans,
Oh ship, I had a radioshow on Hartford. Oh she knew
ahead of time. Yeah. Three, you guys do nice? Whoever out
there is listening and do you nicefor three? I appreciate it. I
love it. I'm appreciative of it. Hell yeah. So they came through.

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I have my Internet for three shirt. Oh my god, it's so
good. Bro. I walk inlike you you nice in three? Yeah.
I was like in my head,I was like, obvious, is
up my shirt? Nah? Youtwo to six to six? Am you
the ship? I was like,I didn't have that on my shirt?

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Oh ship? Who was there's somedude from wrong okay yeah yeah yeah.
I was like, yeah that timezone up. They were like, we
love your fucking show. I waslike, b I appreciate that. Are
you sure? Like I was,uh oh shure skepticism. They didn't believe

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him. I didn't believe him hadit on my shirt? Yeah? Yeah,
he thought he was a shirt youknow, yeah, picked it out
broke and right. You just thoughtliterally it was just front. I just
thought was my shirt. Didn't giveme props? They told me the time
that my shirt was on. Wellyeah, he showed me the love that

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your shirt, the type of shipthat I was that all went on the
shirt. Yeah. It was awesome. That is awesome, you know,
getting love like there was like whenI walked in, I went to pay
my ticket and add on my paymmy ticket. Yeah, broke hit.
Yeah good, obviously he up myshirt. You in there for three and

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again I had on my shirt,bros, my shirt. Yeah, you
could just know from that. Itwas like, bro, you played two
to six. They was like,bro, you played two tom oh ship
that my shirt. That was like, yeah, this guy's love the show.
Yeah, this guy's really a fanbecause you know two to six.

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Yeah, that's awesome. I loveship like that to me, Yeah,
it's awesome to any To the regularperson, it's like, whatever, that
was awesome. No, I getit. So it was so yeah,
No, I get definitely two sixsix am. Love every show you play

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real hip hop whatever. Yeah,yeah, keep doing ship. Can't fake
that. It was awesome. Softlot of house perform Joe Roy Fire,
Crooked, next Joe, Joe,Joe, and last then they all went

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their ship together. So good.So bro. And you know what's funny.
Now, a lot of people don'tlike this this thing. I'm about
to say either. I never gaveJoe Bout a chance. Why And I'll
tell you, And I don't reallyunderstand now maybe I should. I don't
give his word a chance now yeah, oh it does his podcasts. Yeah,

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I know he's all he likes fuckingwith people. I don't know about
that ship either, his podcast ship, but he knows what he's doing obviously.
Yeah, he's pissing people off andmaking he's making movies people off.
Yeah. Yeah, and and honestly, obviously he's more known for that.
I think that's the problem. Sohere's my issue. Okay, I heard
Pump what was it, Pump,Pump, pump whatever? Remember that?

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Right? That was the more likethat was the radio friendly joint from from
Joe Biden. Right, So myissue is it was okay, I didn't
fall over it, And I thinkmy problem was I went from that song
and didn't give him a shot.Bro. But when he was on Slaughterhouse,
I realized he made a mistake.I need to go back through his

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catal Oh. I don't know,because I liked him and slaughter I like,
you went too far ahead from youbecause ten minutes on his first album,
yeah it was fire, Yeah,yeah, ten minutes for Joe Biden.
Yeah it was fire. Yeah.I love that song, just could
be. I don't ever heard O. No, like literally, I never

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heard the song. Because you hearthat, I didn't hear I didn't get
but the chance man, people likemove Music mixtape for fire. No mood
Music was fire. I never gavemy fans. Bro, I need to
go back to his catalog because obviouslyI'm missing out on but I like mood
Music was Yeah, I think Imissed on his catal. I think that

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radio friendly track that got the firedidn't do it for me right, and
I was like, what did youdo a lot for hip hop heads?
But now back at it, it'slike like, Okay, that's not the
fire. I mean, I betthat was good in the clubs. Bro,
Yeah, I'm not sure. WhenI was in the clubs I heard
all the time. But so ifI go backwards on Slaughterhouse, Crooked was

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the first one I heard of allof them because I was so West coast
still am. I'm a huge WestCoaster. I don't know what it is.
I'm obviously from New England, butfor some weird reason, so n
w A made me want to rap. They were the ones I'm like,
Yo, they're reporting street ship,They're telling the truth. They don't give
a fuck real life, say anythingthey want. I was like, Yo,

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what the fuck is this ship?Because yes, I heard the Fab
Boys, Yes, I heard,Yes, I heard Hammer, Yes I
heard Ice, but no, thosewere all great. They were okay,
but they were all right, andthey they didn't they didn't grab my attention
when the WA came out, andI liked them before the police, which

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obviously the police got a lot ofattention, right, But I actually liked
them even when Poshi dropped. SoI remember hearing bitch is a bitch.
I guess there is just PMS,right, I was like, damn,
what the fuck is this ship?So I started buying every NWA album came
out. Okay, And I'm notgonna lie, dude. I was the

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only white boy in school pumping thatmusic at my time, right, because
I wasn't in a school that wasvalidly ethnically mixed. Okay. So I
was in a school. I wasin Midfield for a minute, Okay,
Lichfield was all richie, you wereprobably like one of one, right,
and I didn't fit in bro.I didn't know. Not only was I

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a hip hop or I was askater before hip hop and skater was a
thing. I was both. Really, Yes, I was a backpacker.
I was a skateboarder, and Iwas like the only white boy that showed
up on the basketball court that hungout and played with the guy. And
I'm not presidents at all, Iget me wrong, but I didn't feel
like I felt awkwardly the opposite ofwhat normally an ethnic what would they call

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it, ethnically challenged person goes.I felt the white side of it.
Now, a lot of people getmad when I said, oh, privilege,
just that and the other thing,Like, Okay, I'm not saying
I don't got privilege. I thinkthat's a case in certain situation. But
when you're the only white man inthe court, you're not privileged at that
moment. No, You've got toprove something. Now, I wasn't a

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shooter per se on a basketball courtat all. I will never say I
could outshoot anyone because it wasn't mything. But I'll tell you what,
Bro, I was the white magicJohnson on that motherfucker. I had more
assist than anyone I know, Bro, anyone Broy with you, yo,
I was ball. Yeah, Iwas like a motherfucker, Bro. I

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had to hook about boys up myfavorite place to play it with all time.
Yeah. Yeah, my best friends. Yeah, my boy Angel when
he hears this, he does Yeah. He's looking for me to cut Yeah.
Yeah, he knows what you're gonnado. Yeah, yeah, he's
ready. I'm a score yeah yeah, see, I'd feed you all day.

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That's what I do. That's whatI do. That's that's what I
do. That I was just stockedinto the mail, bro I was.
I was that guy that's even havingaward bro for most succession. Yeah,
I was that guy. I wasnever the star. I was never the
one that got the love. Butthat motherfucker underneath didn't get that shot.

(29:42):
You know what I'm saying. Peoplethought that way. I create this for
you, I create this par foryou. There was a guy it was
six foot eight that couldn't dunk reallybecause he was clutchy. Yeah, so
he'd be falling around on his ownshoes. My coach had to teach him

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to dunk, and then when hedid, you better believe I was getting
the ball to them all day,dude. Yeah, that's all I did.
Bro. I even had a guy. I had a guy that looked
similar to Sean Kemp back in theday I played with us. Well,
he just call him the rain Makerand he would do like the crazy shit,
you know, with the attitude andstick his head through the that shit

(30:23):
like I never got real credit formy team. And you know what's funny,
though it didn't bother me, Bro, I don't know why it did
not bother me, you know whatI'm saying to be Yeah, it didn't
bother me that I wasn't like mentionedwhen I do shows. There was a
long time when I was the guyon the flyer that was the and Moore.

(30:44):
Bro. You know what I'm saying, right, I'm like, uh
apathy uh self titled blah blah blah. Right, and then they're like and
more. I'm like, yep,that's made Like what he means, I'm
like, I'm the end Moore.But now now I've never had a headline
show per se, and I don'tknow when that's coming or if it is
coming, right, But I amthe guy that starts to party. Bro.

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I'm the opening act at almost everyshow I do, and they choose
me to set it off. Soin a way, I think that's pretty
dope. That's like I don't knowif people think if the headliners last,
but in a weird way sometimes,don't you feel like that's weird? Everybody's
left area and now five Nights comingon. Well, everybody left, bro,
And I'm not auditioning because I thinkRoyce is one of the best lyricists

(31:33):
on the planet. Hans that ifyou don't think that right now, no,
if you dish or if you're notlike Royce, I don't think you're
hip hop. But then again,people say the same shit about me and
jay Z, so I can't reallysay that. But see, Jay's a
businessman first, bro. That's myopinion, So you know what I'm saying,

(31:56):
And like hip hop is so subjectivebecause yeah, yeah, no doubt,
it's just it's what you like.So let me ask you a question
real quick before you go go tothat question. I had this talk with
my boy Bob Yep on Facebook theother day. Yeah, and he was

(32:17):
talking about well, before we getinto that, I shared a post where
fifties get it to that trend handsdown better than his the massacre. But
he said, if you really thinkabout it, the massacre wasn't too far
off, and I was to me, I was like, bro, it's

(32:38):
way far off, way far a. Masa doesn't work for me. It
doesn't get rich. I'll play allday still to this day. Funck that
I'll play that all day. Tohim, he was like, it's all
opinion, and it is. Andat the same time I was like,
I agree with that. I reallysat back at thought. I was like,

(33:00):
wait, hold up, he mightbe right. He's right. I
think I'm thinking about the songs somethinglike, oh, you were starting to
think maybe Master is not far off? Exactly? Yeah, exactly, I
mean, and I'm thinking about it. I'm like, hold on, so
I put twenty one questions with what'sthe other one? Out of control?

(33:22):
Okay, twenty of courses beat thatto me too, no question. But
then he puts I was supposed todie today on the bassacre versus money Man.
It's tough. But then when youhear a verse, it's like many
man is untouched. So hands down, I'm supposed to die today. Here's

(33:45):
where I go. Here's here's whereI go. Right, Here's where I
go with this. I don't rememberI'm supposed to die today, but I
definitely remember money Man. You know, think about that argument that I can't
just turn it on and be like, oh, okay, you put many
men. I know before it evenstarts what it is. So to me,

(34:07):
that's no contest, just because ofthat one part alone, I recognize
many men immediately, not necessarily,I'm supposed to die today. That's a
good right not to like if youplayed it now right many men was way

(34:28):
better in my opinion, because whenmany men start playing, just like when
uh yeah, when you played nothingbut a G thing, I'm gonna know
immediately what it is because I'm asuper West Coaster. I don't even understand
how that happened to me, tobe honest, I think it was an
n w A grabbed me so hardthat I was like, okay, who's

(34:49):
next on the West Coast, sothat people were like, show U about
the East Coast, that's where you'refrom. Like I don't hate the East
Coast, but the vibes. ButI went to the Snoop concert and Warren
G showed up. You don't evenknow almost died that day. Like they
were like, now Warren G.I'm like, oh my god, I
can't, like I literally just almostnothing. Oh my god, I'm like,

(35:14):
warn dude. And who was atthe Oakdale? And it was front
row if you got there first,it was the standing My Snoop DOGG pictures
were so close you'd think I wassmoking weed with the man, and I
was kind of hoping to. ButI mean the point is I was right
there, bro, Right, Iwas there. I was there, bro.

(35:34):
You know. The guy that openedfor that show back in the day
was actually kind of interesting because Idon't follow much, but he killed It
was Trade the Truth. If youremember him. He's got that crew assholes
by nature, I guess it's calledso listen. He opened and I didn't

(35:54):
know who he was. I'm notgonna lie, not really, you know
what I mean, I'm going whoknows this cat? This dude's pretty fucking
dope. And then to make iteven more interesting, my handicapped from whim
Me to the show. Right.We were the row because it was first
come, first serve thing. Itwas kind of cool because you just paid
the regular ticket. You just gotthere and you stayed where you were.

(36:15):
My boy won a boombox from Tradethe Truth. He handed it to one
that's pretty cool. It was oneof those those crazy bump boxes that look
like the old school boombox you holdon his shoulder, but it's got the
bluetooth. You got that ship,yeah, yeah, you got that ship?
Right. So snow Warren g cameout and I almost died because to

(36:40):
me, Regulator is ridiculous, andyou know, to be Regulator is one
of the best storytelling songs ever ofall time. And Kill and the clip
one in the whole, I mean, come on, they dog honestly carry
that song because they talk in thatsong. Obviously it's uh, he's like

(37:02):
the second man, but still it'ssongs. Yeah, you know you're the
either make guy or you're the secondYeah. Yeah, that one's his song.
Yeah, but he knows he's thesecond fiddle. Yeah yeah, and
he plays really well. But god, it's awesome. He know. They
dog was like I had the betterinteraction. So yeah, so listen,

(37:30):
I was just thinking about the trimmingand I were on a different subject a
little bit. But in my head, for you is the king of hooks?
Who's the best hook in hip hop? I mean, is there a
competition? Is there a competition?It's close? Okay, who's second?
For you? Oh? She knowthat. I agree with motherfucker on the

(37:52):
Hawks bro. If anything he touchesgets fucking murdered with whatever it goes.
I agree with gold I agree withgold plantinum yeah, I agree is up
there Acon should have done an albumthat was just featuring rappers the whole album.
He hasn't done that. What Acon'sbest hooks a song with to beat

(38:17):
that? Oh, it's called findUs Back the Club. Now, I
gotta go backwards on that one.I don't know that joint off the top
of my head. No, notgonna lie, bro, being uch my
favorite was off the book. Youknow. I love beating that. Pun
was fucking They one of the firstones to put Pun on a track officially

(38:39):
because they knew officially they do.They were like, Yo was a monster,
This dude's gonna kill exactly off thebook. Fat Joe like Big Pun
better than himself, of course inmy opinion, and it still does.
I love that because fact Joe tellsthe truth of that. Mm hmm,

(39:00):
Bro, I know he knew hedo he don was better due Pun was
honestly she do to be in myopinion the way I look at it,
and you got you see the Shipof the Wall, Yeah, see Bigger
all the walls love Big Love,Pocket Biggie Biggy the ship too. Fat

(39:21):
Joe do I personally think that youdo? He was fucking Juju of the
beating better than him? Interesting?Bro, Interesting Now you're talking about old
Fat Joe though. Yeah, seeI wouldn't be able to do that.
I would, I wouldn't able todo it. Juju the beating, So
it's a fire. Fat Joe theGangster was my Fat Joe, Fat Joe

(39:45):
the South with his eminem joint,which I don't mind. But it's not
Fat Joe Juju of it's not thesame. He produced a lot of I
don't get me wrong, benuts isfire. They produced the first album of
comic. That's different comments album thatmakes big, that makes big, that

(40:06):
makes a big cash, that makesa big cash. Now see that's another
problem. That's another Jo of thebeat Nuts. And I liked less.
Oh, no doubt, no doubt. He was the kid rappers. He
was the kid. Yeah no,I could see that. And you know,
using fire, he doesn't get anycredit. He doesn't get any credit.
People don't even know people know thebeat Nuts. So hear the beat

(40:29):
Nuts name. But if you saidJuju, you'd have to say of the
beat Nuts to get exactly exactly.That's just crazy. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, you're some of the bestbeats you ever heard. Beware of course,
that's Juju the beat I'm not gonnanot know the Beats not gonna I
did not know that. You knowthat I love that bro Beware by Yo,

(40:52):
that's one of my fucking all timeprobably you guys hear the crack ye,
but yeah, no, be createdbe aware that beat that big.
You know, that makes the case, that makes it makes a big case.
And they made the first album Showof Common. Comment's first album was

(41:15):
produced by the Beatings Undodgeable. Whenpeople say, oh, you're crazy beat
that's one of the best groups ofall time? Why not they produced Comments
first album, which they produced alot of hits. Joe, they produced
a lot of hits for big Punk. Why wouldn't they be one of the
greatest. I think they're just overlooked. They overlooked fire because no, you're

(41:37):
right, their rhymes are not thatintricate, but their rhymes are classic.
But their productions but us, she'scrazy. The rhymes that they spit is
actually wild. You just gotta payat like no escape of this one of
the best runs. One of thebest verses of all time, which one

(41:59):
juju. Oh yeah, no escapeof this? Oh yeah no, that's
true of all time. That's true, that's true. The best verson of
all time, and actually to notknow that they produced to beware makes a
difference and the fact that they producednow she that's another one that gets now
the right home. You don't listento be aware and be like okay,

(42:20):
yeah, yeah, no doubt andI want and I mean common is another
one that people get mad at meabout comments first album was retarded. It
was amazing, But I didn't followhim after that, really no, just
I was done, dude. Ididn't give him listen to be I don't
know what happened. I didn't givehim a chance. Oh God, I
don't know why. And I lovedthis first time rerection was fine. I

(42:43):
loved this first album. I lovedhow he went after Cube. Yeah he
actually I don't know if he beI'm too much West Coast. I can't
say it, bro, I can'tdo it. Yeah, I can't,
though, I can't. I amtoo West Coast Man Westside Connection first came

(43:08):
out. That was my ship.Yeah, I couldn't. I can't.
I can't give ice Cube enough propsfor when he went after in w A
pushed him out Ashley. Maybe thebest response ever to being pushed out of
a group by like literally, Imean literally, And it's funny because Eminem

(43:35):
has some of the best beef songsever made on the planet, in my
opinion, bought dude, Dalen thecoffin was retarded, dude, And you
know it's funny. You want tohear of information. I fucking met ben
you know, in Boston. Mycousins were tight with the motherfucker. What

(44:00):
was it that time and before hewent after him, before that ship went
down. I met Benzino when hewas made men really with the glass,
Yes, when he was made Menand when his album was that group,
the Almighty R s O. Andthey had it was called and they had

(44:25):
the dish, the dish for thePolice that got banned. I think it
was called one. It was itcalled one in the Chamber, I don't
remember off the top of it,but yeah, they had a song the
Police and now listen, Made MenR s O. All of that.
I never got into him big enoughto be a big deal. But do

(44:49):
you remember when when RSO and MobDeep did the song? And that's funny
because that's Benzino who never got anycredit for anything, and that ship was
pretty tight, bro, considering Igotta chick it out. It was obviously
not good. He didn't do anythingthat was like, you know, memorable.

(45:12):
He didn't. But at the sametime, yeah yeah, but at
the same time I didn't. Iknow, it didn't work for me.
No, Now, he was ahuge deal. He was a huge deal
with what he was part of TheSource magazine right with David May I believe

(45:37):
who game went after one of thesongs. I'm pretty sure my pen almost
broke on the page something crushed byDavid ma He was talking about the Source
probably, I think so, right, So I think so. So here's
what I think. Okay, SoBenzino was never a rapper in to a

(45:59):
degree he has some Okay, hehad other people featured on his song,
right and they they made the song, the other guys. Benzina was part
of it. Nowadays it has tobe like he was never a scallery,
He was never a star. Hewas more like the guy to put it
together. He's the host. Yeah, yeah, he's the guy to put

(46:19):
it together. The Source Magazine wasthe ship to me at one point.
I loved it. I had everybecause everybody had all of it to everybody.
Yeah, when they went after Eminem, they fucked up because people loved
Eminem already they were like, Yo, this guy's like the Great Way of
Hope ship whatever. They were notokay with the Source going after one.
They fucked up on that, inmy opinion, to the point, do

(46:40):
you remember Eminem what he said Iwant of a song? He already said,
he said, double XL double XL. I'll even buy a copy myself.
Yeah that's yeah, yeah yeah,uh grandfather rat yeah yeah, so
he he actually literally was basically sayingfuck the source. Na, yeah,

(47:01):
yeah. The Coffin Nail the Coffinwas probably one of my favorite songs ever.
And you know what's funny. Ibet you some people don't even know
that song. I bet you thatyou know what's sad? Yeah, right
right because the fans I think theyknow everything. Yeah, and I'll be
like, oh, did you everhear the disc against Ray Benzino Nail on

(47:22):
the Coffin? They look at melike I'm like some fucked up weirdough ye,
like who's that dude? That's fine? And I'm like, no,
you're wrong. I'm like Eminem's Nailin the Coffin might be my favorite to
somebody's period, and he's got alot down the coffin is he went so
five, Yeah you went. Hewas mad, dude. He was like

(47:44):
all over the street like fifty cents. Yeah, I mean who said the
street like fifty I was like,damn he did what? Yeah? The
grandfather is ship. Yeah, it'scrazy people call it. I see the
post that Yeah, people called agrandfather rat. Yeah. I was like,

(48:08):
what the fun is grandfather rat?Because I know it's yeah, yeah,
looking at it comments it's the sameship because he said something about him
being like a grand grandfather rat.Yeah, that's right. His grandson's trying
to rap, he's trying to eatoff. Yeah, no doubt. What
the hell is grandfather rat? That'sfunny. I'm looking it up. It

(48:30):
was like, bro, that's theproblem. Now you're ready to piss off
some eminem fans, but let's go. This is a before not gonna like
the special big white boy, bigj Yeah. If he was down here,
right, he would have like,I gonna like this comment at all.
But I liked Devil by mg Kbetter than Kish And I know,

(48:52):
I know people ain't gonna like.I know people ain't gonna like that.
Those are fighting words. But here'smy opinion. Might have to agree with.
Here's here's my opinion. And itsounds saying this, but this is
this is This is how I feel. Eminem is now a name, Eminem
is now a brand. He doesnot have to win. He wins without

(49:14):
winning. He already won, dudea song. He literally not even dropped
theushall and he would fucking win anyway. That yeah, Eminem, we gotta
do nothing anymore. Eminem is Eminem. Eminem is the rap god, according

(49:36):
to many, many fans of hiphop. Even he didn't have to even
people that, Yeah right, evenM and I love educate this. Yeah,
yeah, he's going to He wentoff. He's like, I know
he rap god, but yeah,et cetera. I don't remember what.

(49:57):
And I mean, I'm sorry,but I thought his beard was weird.
I mean, honestly, honestly Idid. I was like, oh,
yeah, okay, guys, Imean, I think the new Eminem look
now, I don't know if he'schanged in the last little bit that I've
seen. This is definitely not gonnago. Okay, this is gonna cost
some ship. Your show is gonnaget some controversial remarks on this one.

(50:21):
Motherfucker looks like the Taliban. Imean come on, not good luck,
bro, Please get rid of thebeard. Okay, don't do that.
And you know what, I'm gladhe went up to Trump, don't get
me wrong. But at the sametime, I didn't really think it was
that good. And honestly, Ialso a lot of people off of this

(50:43):
too. Eminem's new ship Emina.Sorry it's uh. I don't even listen
to somebody. I haven't even heardall of it. I don't even care
about it, right, I don'tcare about it. Shut up, big
gent Big Jay's he likes his newship, bro, Yeah, I can't

(51:07):
not love him, love him.Love is not the best. No.
And when he first came out,everyone thought he was a joke. Please
tell me I'm wrong. My nameis Everyone thought was a fucking bullshit and
then it caught on, right,but nobody liked it in the beginning.

(51:27):
Everybody's going his fucking clown. Evenhis video got made fun of it.
When he first came out, hewas a joke, right, well,
make a joke of hip hop,right he wasn't. Now. Eminem's first
couple of albums, maybe even three, I think, in my opinion,
are absolute fire. Eminem Show.Eminem Show is probably my favorite. Actually,

(51:51):
No, people don't listen to anythingnot that one. I won't count
that one because I never even heardit, to be honest at all,
none of it. I'm not evenan I've never fand one song if anybody
knows you nice? Yeah, right, so that changes all to me?
Not that nice, right right?Infinite was fire, Have an M Show

(52:13):
was fire? Yeah, the shittyap was LP bet was okay, okay,
So I definitely don't put Yeah,I don't push slim shitty over m
a M Show, but a lotof people would. Yeah. Yeah,
and Marshall Mathers I think is evenbetter than slim shait. It probably is
in my opinion closet my opinion,I am. And when he did that

(52:36):
Psycho Chem song, I thought thatShi was crazy. It's good but it's
dark, but it's good, verydark. It's good. And obviously the
stand song is just dope. Everyonelikes the Stand song. At that point,
the two of the repersented that wassomebody else. Yeah, I like
that. I like that, butyou're like, I don't want to see

(52:58):
it was good. Yes, that'smy favorite one. Actually, I'm pretty
sure he's his old fan. That. Yeah, I love it. I
love the the actual first yeah himself. Yeah yeah, it just was done
well I think done. It mighthave been done one of the best.

(53:20):
It was one of the best.Yeah, himself standing definitely recognizable by everyone.
There's not anyone who's gonna be like, oh, what the fuck is
this ship? No, And that'sanother thing that Eminem brings to the table
too, though, because he broughtdifferent fans to hip hop. So I'll
give him again. I will alwaysgive him props for that. Yeah,

(53:42):
like what was that? That doesn'tmake him the best to be? Yeah
yeah, no, I agree,Yeah, that doesn't make the best.
Now, she Cannabis got a rawdeal. In my opinion, I went
down when Cannabis first came out.People knew who he was and they were

(54:02):
like, Wow, these fucking lyricsare retarded. It's like the way he
spit, you know, just everythingabout honestly, I said in interview was
about the four three two one situationtoo. Honestly, bro, this dude
wraps like from another planet, rightright right wraps. Yeah, yeah,

(54:24):
he was with the metaphors is like, you know this is nice? Yeah
yeah, no, he should havethat whole y cleft ll cool j thing.
And I'm an LL cool J fan. I'm even a y cleft fan
to a degree. Really, butthat was some shady ship. Cannabis should
never been Yeah, No, andI don't disagree. Cannabis should have never

(54:46):
been dealt that wrong hand. Thatwas not necessary. LL lost me somewhat
as a fan when he pulled thatship, to be honest, because there
was, like, is wrong withyou, bro? Useful to be like
this big deal? You're like this, you got to back up your artists,
but you're you're a producer, Yeah, back up your artist. Yeah.

(55:07):
LL is like what he's Golden Age, right, eighties? So you
already got your fans, you alreadygot the platform, You got people that
will ride and die with you forthe rest of your life. Why take
him out and lash? He wasafraid? And I hate to say it
because I don't honestly think I gavecannabis enough hearing to know how good he

(55:36):
was. But I also do thinkthat LL should not have made that mistake.
Yeah, it wasn't necessarily it doesn'tmake sense to me. ELL's the
word second album after that, this, Yes, if you read the credits,
yes you see. Yeah, Igot to see these on a wall.

(55:59):
Yeah, yeah, yep. Halfmy wall has CDs of these.
What these artists do exactly say?Drop? Mm hmmm mmm drop. The
album called the what's the word Itwasn't. No, it wasn't a phen

(56:21):
phenomena. Phenomena yeah maybe probably yeah, phenomena. Yeah. He gave Cannabis
the credit, the props. Idid not know that the credit. Bro,
that's after this podcast is done.You want to go check out the
wall right? The world definitely behindyou. Yeah, that's interesting. He

(56:42):
gave him his props like, yeah, that's interesting, bro, I mean
against the guy that is the propsbecause he's a rapper. I love the
Foia when they first came out.I loved the y Clefs, the Carnival.
I did not listen to Why Cleftthat much after that, so I
can't say much, but I wasa big fan of those albums. I

(57:07):
also saw Why Cleft live at Yukonin Connecticut. He was amazing. He
came to party with us, literallysaid he was coming to the jungle and
I was like whatever, bro.Full of ship and the limo rolled up.
So I can't say enough about thatalbum. I would be I can't
say above that that night was ridiculous. I mean he was like with arms

(57:30):
reach, getting his fucking grove on. Oh and the fact that he did
a crazy dirty dancing contest live.He threw some brought up on his fucking
face and ship and he was like, oh what. I was like,
Yo, what the fuck dude?And when he did his joint Gone to
November, he was very high tower. Yeah. On stage, he didn't

(57:57):
sing the song right on burbas he'sraw Maru. I was like, what
the fuck broke, he was retarded, he's doing it. Didn't want to
do that song because yeah, yeah, the quote unquote propaganda Yeah yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah demand because ofthat song. Yeah, and I didn't

(58:20):
really the band, bro, Ididn't give enough credit to to I didn't
do any more following of y Cliffafter the Carnival, And that's understandable,
man, I lost him at thatpoint. No, that's understandable because overall
I didn't really care he's the band. Yeah, yeah, I didn't care.
If you look at the records heproduced, Yeah, and definitely fire

(58:43):
technically what he wrote. But yeah, yeah, no, I guess the
stuff he was right, yeah,bro, he yeah, he had he
had an interview with Matt Haffa.Okay, yeah Barbershop. Yeah, yeah,
I know you're talking about it's oneof my favorite podcasts. And I
never heard that one though I haven'theard the podcast, but I know you're

(59:05):
talking about. He's like, yo, he's good. Why Clift gave props
the Cannabis and was like, yo, he's one of the only artists that
I actually spit in front of.Yeah that I know what I could do
in front of him. Yeah,yeah, cannabis is like yeah, he's
one of those artists like you knowhe could do and but he holds back

(59:27):
because he's right right rice music,but he didn't care about as much.
Yeah, he didn't care about asmuch. All that wasn't really accolades.
Yeah, that wasn't his thing.The right and produced, that's what he
did. But that nine one onejoint with him and Mary Jay's Fire.
That song was like when the dedicatedto Like a Girl, probably about five

(59:49):
times kept thinking that, you knowthat was the one. I was like
nineber one, I cut the ballin my art. I started thinking,
obviously I got to stop using itbecause I ain't working. But why Yeah,
he just that it gets because hewas working with cannabis. Yeah,

(01:00:10):
that whole thing didn't look good forhim either. No, But at the
same time, now you're a cannabisfan, so I already know where I
know where you're gonna go on this, but I'm not gonna agree with you.
Let's go. I want to hearit. I want to hear him
in this second round. Knockout isdefinitely better than Jack the Ripper for you,

(01:00:31):
right, of course, not forme. You know why, I'll
killed him on that. I likehe went psycho like and I think part
of the reason why is because Ellagot my shock factor because he's a ladies
love cool jab. Where the fuckdid that come from? Exactly? He
was all gangster. He's like blahblah blah. I was like, whoa,

(01:00:52):
what the fuck is this? Myfeet off that? Yeah, I'm
a piggyback off of that guy.He did that because he was He He
had to. He had to.He had he wasn't as lyrically skilled as
Cannabis. He had to. Hehad to do it. I don't blame

(01:01:14):
for it. Had you gotta loseyou you got to use your power.
Yeah, yeah, he had hehad to do it. It's no choice.
And he used his platform, andit was funny because el who's up
there? Yeah right, you gotup here? Yeah, was riving like
cannabis would on the record. Soyeah, that's interesting. I never thought

(01:01:38):
of it that way. He hadto. I never thought that. You
never thought of it that way.List That makes it a little different in
my mind. That way, it'sone of the best songs ever. Yeah,
and I don't hate Hell. Ilike I like him. Yeah.
Yeah. If you listen to theRipper strikes back, Yes, he's yelling

(01:02:00):
on the whole record. He doesthat to cert his dominance. Yeah,
it's true. That is referent.It's not the same out he's coming to
hard on that ship. It is, and that beat is rich hearted,
that beat retarded, bro. Idon't hate him for it, but he
had no understand it. You understandwhy he did it. He had too.

(01:02:22):
Yeah, if he didn't know,he would be the cannabis would have
speak still hanging around. It shouldn'thave went down like yeah underground probably of
course. Yeah, yeah he again, bar for bar oh yeah, like
yeah, break the lyric lyric,Yeah, if you break it down,

(01:02:42):
Yeah, well you might be.You might be right about that. I
think it was just because as anLL fan of his Lady cool J Ship
whilch imagine that's my favorite fun trackbecause I just bumped that ship the fucking
beat and he's like putting putting thegirl on the copy of Machine Chain in
between. I mean, if youdon't like that, you made a straight
man. I'm just trying. That'sthe ship. But at the same time,

(01:03:07):
I never thought of it that way. That changes my opinion a little
bit because it came hard, andI think I think what it did for
me is what I do for peoplewhen they see me and go, the
fuck is this fucking Peter Griffin fuckingfast? You can't. It's like a
shot factor. Yeah, you justdo what you like. Tonight, when

(01:03:30):
I ended up doing a horror trackfor some reason, I don't know.
I just figured I have a littlefun until DJ put on something scary,
right, I went harder than Iever won. I was screaming, I
was yelling, I was doing demonlaughs and ship and you know what's funny,
I got more love for that trackthan any track I did. Deny
it. In fact, I didn'tknow. I didn't know why I could

(01:03:51):
do horror or it's just around withevery once in a while, but they
really liked it. They really likedit. I did the intro like Demon
Night from Tales from the Cryft.You know, it's funny. Now they
kind of say you're tone deaf andthe like when you're hearing yourself. That's
not how you sound to the others. So I get mad when you don't

(01:04:12):
get any content. Nobody records itbecause now I don't really know how that
went down. Okay, I onlywent I only know what I heard.
From what I heard, I soundedlike ridiculous and my Demon Night was on
a point. But was it?I don't know, but a couple of
people in the crowd were like,yes, sometimes no, I know what
That's what i'most like. I getmad when I kill shit and people give

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me props all night, like nottonight. A couple of nights ago,
I did a tour for Life show. Shout out to Kenny Mercer Doucebug know
if you ever heard of him.He does all this raising money for mental
health. We based forty grand formental health, and then in that alone
makes me want to do more forthe guy. Okay, because I love

(01:04:56):
depression fucking was awesome, right,Depression fucks from me times. That's serious,
so I get it. So Iwant to be that guy to help
raise money for suicide awareness and shitlike that. Right, it's a big
deal. But I did a coupleI did a cipher and I did a
couple of tracks, and for somereason that night, I always do one
with mental awareness if I'm in thatshow, because I know that's what it's

(01:05:19):
about. Yeah, okay, butremember I freestyle, so it's never the
same, right, So I didthe last one, and for some reason
they really liked it. I saidsomething about how you can't love anyone else
until you love yourself, right,and somehow I built around that as my
freestyle for the end of the night, and everyone says it's my best.

(01:05:42):
But guess what, I don't thinkthere's any fucking recording of that not okay.
I also ran out and did likea huge joke on the cipher.
Okay, so I'm on the sidewaiting. I don't know where it came
from, but people fucking loved it. The crowd wism laughing like it was
a comedy show. Just by myone line. I ran out on the

(01:06:04):
stage and they go, it's beena long time, And then I paused
and I said no, I wasjust before, and they fucking loved it.
For some reason. The crowd wasroaring like they got it. Like
there must have been a lot ofold heads because they got it immediately.
They knew the rock Heem reference.You know what I'm saying, and you

(01:06:27):
know it sucks nobody recorded. Idon't think bro and you know what makes
me man not sound like I don'twant to sound like egotistical or an asshole.
But if I record other people andI took photos and I do a
lot of it. My only reasonwhy I don't get the whole show is
because my phone's a piece of shit. I have a seven. I want
to pay for an upgrade. Seehonest true, my phone battery dies if

(01:06:50):
I forgot to bring my camp charger, which sometimes I'll do on purpose so
I can refill it. If Iforget, I don't get the whole show.
But I support these people so much. I want the whole show in
my fucking social media. I carethat much. And honestly, the Kenny

(01:07:12):
Mers Reduce Bug Tour for Life shows, which if anybody's listening, is not
only that it's important, they're neverdone badly and I'll explain from a person's
opinion, I could be wrong,but when I go to a show and
there's eighteen trap gangster mumble wrappers andtwo that actually have something solid, it's

(01:07:35):
not for me. Now, ifyou're a trap mumble rapper fan, that
might be your show. Okay,so I'm not hating on it, but
when it's not my show, that'swhy that one doesn't get as much airplay
in my social media. But I'lltell you what if I go to a
show, If I go to ashow and you have some emotional or some

(01:07:58):
gangster rep that's done propper, whereI go, I believe you? Yep,
are you lying? I don't knowyou who, but I believe you.
If you sell me your story andwhen I leave, I'm convinced that
that's real, that that that's yourlifestyle. You've won me. Now,

(01:08:21):
if you go out there and gorun and ma fuck a trap trap trap
gang gang you're not selling me atall. Shut up right, you are
full of crap. You probably livein grandma's basement. You're not a gangster
at all, And when they catchyou outside in traffic, you ain't gonna

(01:08:44):
make it right. Six nine somehowis still famous, not sure how right.
And another thing that makes me madabout him is when they started trying
to compare him to Onics, Iwas like, please don't, please don't.
Yes, he tries to maybe possiblyhave a similar streaming style maybe,

(01:09:08):
but he doesn't hold the torch toOnyx, so stop right. And even
when they went solo to me,if you put six nine on the table
in front of me, even againstfred Row or Sticky, he ain't getting
ship I'm throwing isn't the track?Fuck that? I don't know if you've

(01:09:29):
listened to any Sticky or Fredrow bythemselves, those motherfuckers kill honestly kill it.
The best albums of all time?The black Trash the first one,
I don't know the first one onthe first one was I don't know if
I know that definite. I'm gonnahave to find it the whole, the

(01:09:51):
first the whole first album he hadwith Yeah, if I was white Head,
that was that. That's not blacktrash. I want to buy you
for black trash. No Ship,I don't know that one. Well,

(01:10:11):
no that I do know. IfI was white Kirk Jones, Jones,
Yes myself was fire? Is thetrial on that one or the Black Trash
one, that one that the that'sthe one, the Kirk joneses, the

(01:10:32):
one, that trial one is fuckingridiculous. It might be one of the
best storytelling tracks, is that ever. People don't even know that the whole
album. I guarantee you some ofyour listeners have never heard his Ship by
himself. If you heard that oneout there, they probably haven't. Fires
Kirk right, it's Kirk Jones something. It's definitely Kirk Jones. I don't

(01:10:58):
think it's the life of Darry becausethe state. Oh yeah, yeah,
I think you're right. I thinkthat is. Yeah, I think that's
right. Yeah, I think that'sthat's gotta be on that wall, right,
one of the best. It's oneof the best of the best.
Yeah, yeah, And I don'tthink a lot of people. ONYX was
obviously fire almost everything they yeah,yeah, you know that. They're still

(01:11:19):
doing uh uh shows and albums therewith the there with the s d K,
with Me Stopdown Killers, They're withthat whole Canada now Onyx is with
them ONX is with the Canada peepsnow, dude, Yeah, which is

(01:11:40):
obviously interesting. Yeah. MRK iswith Onyx now on the same uh whatever,
you want to call it. Idon't know what s d K really
is stop down killers, but they'repart of that, you know, corporation
whatever. Uh spitting what you can'twhat you do. I'll be right,

(01:12:00):
beck. Oh okay, all right, brother? Oh brom, Should I
still talk? Yeah? Okay.So I don't know what do you guys
think out there? Yo? Whatdo you think about ONYX by themselves with
Slam to Me, which was classicas fuck? I remember, actually back
in the day when I was akid, I remember fucking walking down the

(01:12:21):
street, hitchhiking a ride from Terryvilleto Late Compounds, screaming slam Dud,
Dunna, dud, dunna, Letthe boys be boys, with a whole
bunch of my boys just walking downthe street. That shit was fucking fire
classic. All we got is us. Don't forget ONYX was in that movie

(01:12:46):
Strapped. You guys like gangster movies. That shit is definitely highly recommended to
anyone that likes to Easter movie.Strapped should definitely be in your collection,
should definitely be checked out, shoulddefinitely be listened to. Frederal Starr's album
fire Starter was also fire, andI think there with SDK now Stopdown Killers

(01:13:08):
with Mercules, and I don't rememberwho else is over there, but uh,
I definitely like Mirk better than Drake, which I know a lot of
people aren't gonna agree with. Butto me, Drake is is not really
even rap. Sometimes I feel likehe's just pop. But I will give
Drake his crops. I will giveDrake his props for when he's a feature.

(01:13:30):
For some reason, I like Drakewhen he's a feature better than when
he's by himself. Why, Idon't know how to explain it. So
if there's that game one that game, that game track called U don't get
me wrong the game, Yeah,there's a track when him Drake the game

(01:13:55):
Pretty Fire, really pretty Fire.I think it's a hundred or something like
that. Really, so Drake,it's like drinking the games fire together.
My favorite track ever, I gottaI gotta check it out, honestly,
ever, Drinking the Feature Killer withNipsey. I think I've heard that one.

(01:14:21):
That song maybe one of my favoritesever, even by Nipsey himself.
Really, and I'm a pretty bigNipsey Fanca West Coaster, Yeah, Nipsey
Awsle and it's called I believe it'scalled Killer. Dude fucking kills that it

(01:14:43):
for me. He doesn't rap.I think he just does. The hook
really doesn't even for me. I'mnot for Drake to kill something that's like
a lot. It's like a lot. Honestly, you're gonna have to hear
Killer because that one does blow meaway. To be honest, that is
probably one of the only songs thatDrake has done that I would say,

(01:15:04):
get you mad play? Really,yes, I'll give him props for that
one. The track with him andthe Game is dope as fun too.
But I'm also a super Game fan, which a lot of people don't.
No, No game is a lotof people try to give ship to the

(01:15:24):
game for when he named drops itis there is nothing wrong. Well,
somebody name drops the thing that cracksme off. Bro, just just spit.
Yeah, that's what we want tohear us as fans. You can
you can say, you can saywhat you want about I don't know what

(01:15:45):
I'm talking about ship whatever you wantto say. I this is what I
do, This is what I like. I like hip hop. I want
to I want to break it down. If somebody spits ship out, curse
somebody spits ship it's ship. Yeah, somebody pits fire, it's fire.
That's all I want to know.People were giving him a hard time about

(01:16:09):
name dropping, like I'm like Hueor like that. Yeah, I'm sorry.
If you're paying enough attention to hiphop, there is way more rappers
doing it than just a fucking game. Oh but god, there's way too
many, way too many. Youneed to out on the game and give
him his props. It doesn't makesense. Yeah, for a So if

(01:16:29):
you guys just joining us the middleof the podcast, I got positive ID
with me and he and the Billdid. Big J could have joined me
kind of. This is after ourspecial right now. Of course, of
course off the cuff like my ohyeah, just hit me up and I'm
leaving my show. He's like,set, what are you doing? Like,

(01:16:51):
I don't know, bro, it'slike one two o'clock in the morning.
Bro, I just wanted to getthe big homies shown up in the
building do an episode. That's tome, man, this is awesome.
This is what I love to do, is just how to talk hip hop

(01:17:11):
or talk sports. This is whatI love to do personally, you know,
ice, how to talk hip hop, talk sports. We're gonna get
do sports a little bit sports,but I don't have a lot of looking
for college or like, no,I know you do. I try.
I trying to throw the words outthere. No, not really, I

(01:17:35):
don't watch basketball at all. Whatyeah, I'll explain. And that sounds
weird to the NBA fans now probably. So I was a huge Magic Johnson
fan, okay, which I thinkI feel like I watch him because that's
what I wanted to be there.There's a lot of that and for some

(01:17:58):
reason, you know, I peopleget heat nowadays for being bandwagon pole to
oh bro. That's that's like everyday. That's not every day when I
think about it. With the NBA. When I was younger, I kind
of had two teams. Okay,Yeah, I was a Bulls fan.
Who wasn't honestly, who wasn't whowasn't Tranch. I honestly think the list

(01:18:25):
the list that is of non Bullsfans, it's shorter than the list of
the people that were Bulls fans exactly. So I was a huge Bulls fan.
I was a huge Leaguers fan,but I was also a huge Shack
fan. I still consider myself Shackfan, but it's not because it was
basketball rap career, which I don'thate on. Yes, some interesting ship,

(01:18:50):
but Shack reminds me of Action Bronch. You know he is. I
know. I don't know ron really, I don't know much of it.
Maybe maybe really it's good. ButI'll tell you what. His shows are

(01:19:11):
fucking entertaining. The man is apersonality. He's a good person. Honestly,
he's a good person overall. Right. I would love to meet him
and just party with him because hejust seems like a fucking fun guy,
cool guy, alien show whatever.I forget he doesn't he talks about the
aliens. Actually, Rush, Ihaven't said that as a personality. Okay,

(01:19:38):
his rap I don't know if Ican does it? Does it sound
like ghostwaste to you? He does? Someone does it to be you know
it's crazy. Don't think you knowit's crazy. I don't think so.
You're right, Yeah, I thinkhe does. But if I put myself

(01:20:00):
on out on a ledge right nowto everybody listening right now, I don't
like ghost Face that much. Idon't think he's one of the best.
I don't think he's one of thebest WU Tank members of all time.
Bro. So it's funny. Idon't hate action from ghost Face at all

(01:20:20):
because I'm not a ghost fan.Bro, it's so crazy, and I'm
not gonna say ghost Face doesn't havesome songs he does, Yeah, for
sure. What I do find interestingis are you a Spotify member? I
am? That's what I find interestingis if you look into what ghost Face

(01:20:42):
recommends, it won't be the onethat people said best. And you know
what's funny, I like the onehe recommended a little bit better, like
iron Man was supposed to be hisbest. I think or Supreme clientele,
and honestly, and people say SupremeCrime tells better than iron Man. I
don't like that. I don't evenlike. I don't even care if that

(01:21:06):
she's around. It doesn't need tobro me personally. Me me personally,
and I'm not that old, butthe young Yes, I could be without
any ghost Face projects or versus.Hip hop will still be the same,

(01:21:28):
okay, so hold on keep hiphop will still be the same to me.
Does that doesn't matter? It doesmatter because if he is, if
you take him, if you takehim out of that, it's still don't
think. I don't. I don't. I don't that I don't because grey

(01:21:53):
Kwan is such a monster. Andnow this is verse alone, not his
verse on that's one of the best. What's the what's the song versus on
Face? Right? Yes, yea, his verse on that destroys the whole

(01:22:14):
album. Yeah, you're not there'sthere's doesn't touch of that, doesn't touching
that. But I don't think Facecould be not on that album. He
could to me, he could bethat all day all right, still save
album that I don't agree with.But I don't think Face solo albums compared
to anything. It doesn't and Idon't think it does lash unless you can

(01:22:43):
kill Army. Some of the branchesmaybe not as good. I like.
I like more than a ghost Face, way better than yakon best. Yeah,
the only thing the only person Iwould put ghost Face m hm,

(01:23:04):
opposite of what don't disrespect the ghostFace. If you're somehow listened to this
uh podcast right now? If anything? Yeah, you are neck connect with
you Got metha man and you Gotyou Got. You Got has some although

(01:23:26):
I got it very average stuff,but he also has some really good stuff.
I did like some of the stuffI heard recently, because I only
gave him a shot after watching theshot. Yeah, really didn't, but
you got his fire could have donemore. Yeah, I think his his
verse on Winter Amazing Triumph like oneof the amazing It's one of the best

(01:23:53):
ones exactly, exactly probably history.Yeah, so I can live if me
personally, I can live without ghostFace. I'm gonna get some hate for
that, and I don't know,I'm gonna send you what he recommended.
Yeah, because that's definitely the bestalbum I've ever heard. I'm all for

(01:24:17):
it. But it was like,I was like, why is this album
being recommended by ghost Faces? Thisone has never been hurt by me at
all. I'm all for that.Who is your favorite we're talking about?
That's rough? That's rough, interestingright me? Personally? Who I'll go

(01:24:47):
that is hard method man mehing Man. I gotta got Man because I like
and I love Killer Priest, whichhe he's not an official member, yeah,
but he's like a branch, buthe's like the unofficial him and Redman
like the unofficial ninth member of SchoolTeam. I got you, and I

(01:25:11):
love both of them, yea,and Redman's like up there. Redman's up
there, Yeah for sure. Andnowadays you've been coming out of all these
freestyles. Head, Oh my god, he is making some noise. He's
putting some noise. Bro, He'swaking people up. He's putting doubt to
rest with some of those free styles. Redman is amazing and actually, know

(01:25:38):
what's funny, though I haven't,I didn't become a really big Red Man
fan until maybe last year. Really, I bet a Redman fan for a
long time. For some reason.I love this albums with Maths together,
they definitely are a chance. Iheard a couple of times and I was
like, it wasn't sure. Yeah, but last year I changed my mind.

(01:26:00):
Yeah, each fire, I cansee that. I can see that.
But for me, it is RedBand. Uh Meth obviously you got
okay. Ray Kwan obviously one ofthe best. Some of his tracks are
just amazing. And method Man wasdefinitely the first person I would say normally

(01:26:27):
of course, of course, ofcourse, really I like Quon a lot.
But for me, it's just changedbecause of the Wu Tang Show.
Really Wu Tang Show convinced me tochange my mind. Really, yeah,
I haven't watched that can't stop.If you're fan, you're making a mistake.

(01:26:48):
It's gotta be one of the bestTV shows. Based on the hip
I remember in my life really veryupset when it really the only thing I
give to which Tope would totally myfriend, Tope would totally not agree with
me. Is the last season whenthey started doing some sort of different thing

(01:27:08):
where they were almost the episode wasa song. And I understand the idea
okay behind it. Don't get mewrong, I think it's a cool idea,
but I think I liked it betterwhen it was actually a show,
like when it really followed everything touring, what happened? Why did you guys

(01:27:30):
love to leave the bus? Youknow? Like that I cared more about
the storyline more. I haven't evenseen that. Yeah, I don't get
me wrong, the hip hop songsturned into an episode is a pretty dope
idea, okay, and it's reallyfun to watch it entertaining, but I
think I prefer how it started,you know what I'm saying. But also

(01:27:51):
though when it ended, I wasnot happy. I wanted more bro I
was like, what the fuck's hiphop show? I've ever seen my life?
Like? It made me mad.So you could tell that they didn't
want to separate the fans. Theywant to keep them together for episodes.

(01:28:12):
Yeah, yeah, how about then went bio right the bride first,
And I agree with you because I'llbe I'll be slacking on some stuff like
that. Yeah, you know,you know what kills me? It is
because I see the Biggie autobiography theyhad Tupac portrayed by Anthony Mkie. Yeah,

(01:28:40):
from from exactly, I was like, what killed you? Yeah?
What killed me? Is? Whatkilled me is that It's like, doesn't
real, She's fake, it's fake. Yeah from so I didn't watch it
was a bad idea. Yeah,so I didn't watch it. Bullshit,

(01:29:05):
you did see it. I didsee the Torrius now all the way through
the end. Okay, so tome and his Tori's is a good biopic.
Yeah, I liked it. Buthere's what this is where it's gonna
get fun. I'm the biggest Tupacfan I know. Yeah, never watched
It's on my shelf. Yeah,I've never watched it. For some reason,

(01:29:26):
I'm worried, I mean to bedisappointed. You probably will, honestly,
you probably will be. Ye,I won't play it. I just
kept looking at it and what daymaybe what day too? But yeah,
for some reason, I feel likeI'm really gonna be disappointed like bad.
I believe that. I believe that. And yet the n w A movie
was fucking ridiculous. I heard itwas really good. To me, there

(01:29:51):
is no hip hop biopic movie thateven touches it. Now, keep in
mind, I'm a huge n wA fan, huge biopic or a huge
on West Coaster, so that mightchange my mind compared to an average hip
hop fan. But at the sametime, they got a lot of ship
in that movie. Bro, theydidn't miss a lot of ship. They

(01:30:13):
got a lot of ship in thatmovie wrong, like a lot of stuff
right or a lot of stuff average? Really Yeah, And the fact that
Cube and all of them did almostlike a trailer commercial thing. Have you
ever seen it where they're like reallyreally into it and then ice Cube Son
looks just like them. Have youever seen anyone No, like this is

(01:30:36):
Obar Gooding, right, it's oBar Gooding Jujia It's gotta be Wait,
ice Cube Son isn't the movie.It might be, I'm pretty sure,
but I know Omar Goodie Jujia Sonis in the movie as well. I've
heard about that. I think iceCube Son plays ice Cube really well.

(01:31:00):
I'm pretty sure. And ice CubeSon looks just it's creepy y. Have
you seen ice keep Son and anything? Mm hmm record watching it. There's
a TV series based on Kevin Durant. Come up, not even a basketball
guy. I'll tell you right now, Bro, that might have been one
of the most fun TV series Iremember watching my whole life. I fucking

(01:31:24):
was waiting for the episode. That'show much I like. I was like,
oh my god, I watched Joe. I follows Durrant from middle school,
goes that far back. Have towatch the son plays the coach who
tries to Yeah, yeah, hetries to like get him too, to

(01:31:46):
be a star. Bro. It'scalled Swagger. I don't know if you
have apple honestly watch it. Yeah, but swagger. Yeah. He recommended
if you're an NBA fan at all, even more recommended because I'm not anymore.
I couldn't stop watching that TV show. I couldn't. There were so

(01:32:10):
many cool, like outside things thathappened of basketball that built on the show,
and if some of it's true,Wow, to ran to some crazy
ship back in the day. WhatI disagree with what he did, not
necessarily because I don't think kids shouldbe touched either. It was one of
those type things. Yeah, himand his crew do some ship. I

(01:32:36):
check that out. I would shutthat out. I don't get no love
for me, bro No for Iagree with you. Some kids, you
better get the funk out of myway. For yo, those are the
most innocent people on this earth andyou're talking on no. I'm sorry that
ship ship and they get away withit too much. This is too much,

(01:32:59):
you know what's sad. But hetalks of those situations, which is
terrible. Which is terrible. Wasthat famous dude the island? There were
celebrities. I think Bill Clinton waseven out there slumming. There's still that

(01:33:19):
rapid that's that's wild, that shipAnd definitely I actually liked Bill Clinton.
I don't know why, I wantto say, as a president per se
technically weird. There was something abouthis personality that I kind of thought was
interesting. I don't know why.That's obviously a little thing with them Lewinski,

(01:33:41):
that's a whole other thing. Butfor some reason I kind of liked
him as a person when I sawhim doing interviews or whatever. Why I
loved Barack Obama when he speeches,because he could kill it. For one,
for me, he interviewed, hewas amazing good president. Who knows

(01:34:03):
no one really knows what what orwho was a good president? Right?
But for us as a people,to me personally, who's the leader,

(01:34:24):
right, who's like the leader?Who could we point to as like,
yeah, he's in charge of us? And I'm okay with saying that Barack
was one of those guys. He'sin charge of us. I'm good with
that. When when Bush was likeus, we both ship, both ship

(01:34:48):
like why are you and again it'slike, that's just your opinion, that's
my opinion. But like what Imean what Barack was president, the president.
He felt good that it was ourleader. We felt good. We

(01:35:08):
know he's gonna make the right decision. Yeah for me, that's it for
me. I actually said in afreestyle one Yeah, I said something about
how I love the Rocks speech.I said, he controls the crowd like
I'm doing right now, said somethinglike that, right, that's fire,
thank you. And what I sayabout that is Rock was my favorite president

(01:35:31):
for a couple of reasons. Andsome people I know would definitely be weird
about it. But to me,racism is way too real. Still.
Oh so the fact that he evengot to be President's already a win.
Yeah, like Brocks president, theblack man is in office. Fuck everybody,

(01:35:55):
that's a win. Sorry, period. But I think his speeches were
his best part of his presidential candaeshe was so did he do well with
the things I didn't see when hewas on the microphone? Everyone paid at

(01:36:15):
time? Professional Biden sucks as aspeech guy. And he's old and he's
retarded. I'm sorry. I don'tcare. Biden fans say, what the
fuck you want? That motherfucker hasthe mess. He should not be president.
Something's wrong. He's way too oldand he's way too gone to be

(01:36:36):
trying to be the leader of theKnights and how to act as the lead
dude. He's out of his mind, I'm sorry. And Trump was a
racist asshole. Did he do anythingin the office? Maybe? Who the
fuck knowledge? But you can't beseeing the Proud Boys are acceptable and not
be thinking you're pushing someone the wrongway. You can't possible manipulate people to

(01:37:01):
attack the capital and think you shouldbe accepted. What the fuck is wrong
with you? And he's a retardwhen he speaks, he's just playing dumb.
Is he good with money. Maybepossibly, But also if you think
about it, that motherfucker was bankrupt. He fucked up. We all know

(01:37:23):
that. Before the fact he rebuilthis ship. Don't get me wrong.
Did he have relationship issues? Probably? Presidents have a history of cheating.
I don't even know if there's onethat didn't. You go back all the
way to like Lyndon B. Johnsonor jfkme out and fucking Madelon Monroe.

(01:37:45):
Okay, who knows john who knowsso? In politics? Unfortunately for us
in my opinion, when they dothat lesson of the two evil shit.
It's the only way you can vote. You should vote, because not voting
in all probably doesn't make sense eitherto our vote count. That is something

(01:38:08):
that always bothered You're talking electoral collegebullshit. Why is that even fucking there?
I try. I try not totouch it to the right, I
mean, why is it there,dude? I try. I try not
to touch it. To the politics, Yeah, because you feel like it
costs too much? Issues? Itdoes? It? Does? It?
Does? It? Does? It? Does both? Do both? Do?

(01:38:31):
People are trying to just shut itsblind. They want to turn the
black eyes, turn the blade.Really, people, wake the funk up.
Something's wrong. Will I say youshould be woke and all this other
weird ship that people claim, whichI don't even know what it means to
a degree, to be honest,pay the attention. If there's all of

(01:38:56):
these racial ethnic people dying and alot of them don't make sense, you
fucking find a way to prove thatthey're all legit. I guarantee you even
the biggest racist KKK member is gonnabite his talk. Prove it, bro,
I'm sorry, prove it politics onthe show, but it's dangerous.

(01:39:23):
The lady in Bristol I went intothe uh police issue. Yes, I
saw that video. Guns shoot?Shut up? Why didn't they call her?
She didn't get killed. I guaranteeyou she didn't killed. That was
a black woman. We have adifferent conversation if he was a minority woman,

(01:39:44):
no matter that black, Puerto Rican, Dominican, Colombian, Mexican,
Peruvian, whatever, that should bedead. It doesn't even make sense she
would be dead right now. Ridiculousto say, again, we don't usually
touch on politics. I never poltics. I never do, I never do,

(01:40:10):
I never did. I never dopolitics on your show, bro,
because that could go on forever.With conspiracy and politics, it's time to
get er. Oh but this isinside, so it is a very I
try to stay away, but subjectit triggers people. Sure sure. Another

(01:40:32):
one that takes people pissed off isgang. Gangs aren't okay now. There
is more truth nowadays than there usedto be. I was that that route
there is, but to think thatit's okay when some of the ship's happened
in the past with gangs or drivewhere innocent lives die. I get yelled

(01:40:58):
at for making a song about itbecause I say I don't know. I
said, why is it? Idon't know. I can't be morally correct
on the subject feeling upset that awoman that wasn't supposed to be there got
murdered. People can be shipped becauseyou don't know gain life. I'm like,
why do I have to know?A baby died? That's all.
I don't understand that ship Honestly,A lot of times that upsets me that

(01:41:26):
I've wrapped about police brutality and peoplesay I can't do it because I'm a
white man. Why because I don'tfeel like that's wrong. I can't be
on that side of what I thinkis correct. Morally can't be spoken by
me, you know what I mean? Dude. Sorry, guys, I
don't agree with that comment, andI'm gonna go ahead and move forward and

(01:41:47):
do what I want. You know, honestly, there are a few times
where I get a little controversial andjust say what the I want at all.
That's not okay. I can't saythat. I don't go funck.
I'm doing it on pretty a speech. What anybody says. Have you ever
heard of Locksmith? Of course?Fire? That guy is like, shut

(01:42:12):
out losmouth. That guy's wow.You heard him when he before he became
he is? Of course? Didyou hear the Federation where it was more
like a I don't know, almostlike him. I guess, Wow?
Did he changed? Locksmith? Isfire? Have you heard the I think
it's different record where he wraps fromthe uh being president and doing the speech?

(01:42:41):
Is it him that it's crazy?I don't remember if it's locks with
or not. I think it is. It's dope. He does the voice
of Biden, Trump everybody, andthen at the end of and then he
does Kanye for President all that,yeah, and then this guy resident,

(01:43:02):
He's like and if you if youhelp for me, I'll give everybody free
shoes. I'll take that. I'lltake that. Kanye, I'll take that
Kanye. That's another guy. Howdo you feel about Kanye West? Because
I definitely get different, bro.Yeah, what are you getting? Your

(01:43:26):
shows? You you perform a lot, which is awesome all around, all
around, Mass Rhode Island, done, Manhattan, Manhattan even so yeah,
that's awesome. So when you're doingshows in New York, Mass, Rhode
Island, CZ, what are youhearing stuff like stuff like that, like,

(01:43:51):
oh, you mean people's opinions oryeah, people's opinions. So overall,
I think, let's say you wantto you want to talk about Kanye.
So I would say, in thecrowds I've been in, when it
comes to Kanye, you're either adie hard or you hate them. That's

(01:44:13):
what it is. Me. Iloved this first two albums. Oh great?
Three? Three? What's your third? One? Graduation? Okay?
So what's the first three? It'suh ky drop out? All right?
Yes, what is the uh Ididn't graduated? Second graduate? Graduation is

(01:44:38):
third? Okay? The one Iforget? It's just some mind alright.
So then maybe the first three,but I feel like after that, you
lost. Yeah, whatever, Waysand Heartbreaks was like then before album.

(01:44:59):
I agree with that. Yeah,I forget it was weird. He's not
people love. He's a personality,my dark, twisted fantasy. Yeah,
I never I never heard it.I heard a few songs off the album,
which is they're good, Yeah,but not on the level of the

(01:45:21):
first three. Not at all,not at all. Production is always good,
it's always it. Anything he's everput touches on, he kills.
But his is weird. Yeah,I'm gonna have to do with because anyway,

(01:45:44):
that's the other problem is losing him. You know, you know what's
crazy? People people say he's weird, really weird, But what's going on?
Is that the truth? Do weknow? Have you ever seen one
like all of a sudden he's Godin an interview? Yeah, Bro,

(01:46:06):
that's that's rough, like like you'renot the almighty Creator anything. And I'm
not even religious and he was pressingme off. I'm not either. I'm
not either, Jehovah. I wasmad, yeah, you know what I
mean, for some weird reason,and and that's interesting if you think about
it. I'm not even highly religious, but it still just made me mad

(01:46:26):
because I think I felt like,also, now you're God, what's happening?
I'm jay Z, but I'm alsoJeovah. I ruled the world.
I personally, he was like Jehovahof the rap world, which is maybe,
which is an iffy. But yeah, I don't I know what you're
saying. I loved his first album, but after that I was done.

(01:46:49):
I don't even know he has hits. But I wouldn't play a full album
by jay Z except for the firstYeah, yeah, that's it. Oh
the positive ideas. Come on,You're not gonna play nothing off the Black
album? Nothing. I will playthe whole album, the Black album.

(01:47:12):
You're crazy, man, you arecrazy right now that the Black album,
the four four four and some otherNo, no, that that was different
because now did that like ninety eightninety six? That's old? The Black
album? Yeah, playing nothing shipbut mm hmmm. I wouldn't play front

(01:47:35):
the back. I wouldn't play forthe bank either. But nothing off the
Black album, not nothing, justnot the whole album. No. I
like when you say that that,I agree with that. I like hitch
By. If you gave me ajay Z great such, I'd probably play.
Of course, of course, there'sno album except for his first one

(01:47:58):
when he first came out the bottom, even then, if even then,
it was like if you yeah?And then when not has killed him?
As far as I was, hewasn'tetting play my car because retarding was just
fucking literally just crushed his whole etherwas like another level. Oh and I

(01:48:20):
unfortunately this not why explain? Letme explain, but let's you explain.
But that's wild, that's wild.Remember when he did hip hop is dead?
So I said something like now thatyou and now that you and J

(01:48:40):
Beef and pop is dead? Andthen I said, remember how they did,
like did you like some joint shipafter? Yeah? Dude? So
then I was like, oh,and now you guys are friends. I
gotta hear that because the mouth Iwas like, did you guys like?

(01:49:01):
I don't think I think he madea mistake there being friends with J.
I don't all right. He wasway better before Jay and came. From
my opinion, I love conspiracies.I love I love conspiracies and I love

(01:49:23):
not conspiracies. That makes sense.I love both sides. I feel like,
did that Beef to sell records forhip hop? You think it was
like just made up pen again?On both sides. So I feel like

(01:49:44):
they did that beef. I feellike they did that beef to boost the
sales. Yeah, I can seethat, and I also feel that.
I also feel that that beef wasto destroy one another. Oh interesting,
so oh yeah, I believe.I believe both sides. And then what

(01:50:08):
about Takeover? Do you really thinkTakeover had any chance? See? Take
over was take Over was a disctowards Mob Deep with the with the one
liner to listen to listen to theoriginal, So the first verse was towards

(01:50:33):
now right, no, my bad, my bad mob Deep. First,
yes, it was a one linerand where he ended like as now he
don't want to would hold no thatthat's the that's the one liner, right,
yeah? What because Jaye performed thatright, So when I heard that,

(01:51:02):
he goes, all right, betdrop a verse which was a sid
homo they said, which is ahome or whatever? So now I dropped
that? Yeah yeah, now droppedthat. It was awesome and then jay
finished re recording Takeover, which wasthe one liner to NOAs plus the verse

(01:51:30):
and then another verse after that thatwas j I don't think I really paid
attention. Bro. Check it out. Check it out. It's dope.
That's interesting. So when Jay droppedthe whole verse towards NOAs the one liner,
then diverse, then another verse,I was just like bet the whole

(01:51:50):
song now was like bet Ether waslike the whole song, Oh God.
Then people agree are way off definitelyAnd then what was uh have to Eather

(01:52:17):
dropped a playing was it was atakeover super ugly, super ugly. Remember,
so it goes another verse about noswhich is boom or whatever what it
is? What it is, whichis decent? You're right. I remember
it was Angie Martinez and funk Flexplaying that. The Nows came back with

(01:52:43):
a whole the whole song this isj Yeah, two verses and a hook,
this is Jed. After that,Jay dropped a verse only on super
good. Yeah that's it. Yeah, Yeah, that was it. That

(01:53:04):
was it one. There's no definitelyone anybody of courses that is uh not
not even paying attention. But therethere Jays manage to listen to take over
again because the other thing is inmy opinion, ship I'm deep, I'm

(01:53:28):
sorry not even his best line wasthe ship about that's coming from a TAC
fan. B yeah deep at all, even for even at that point and

(01:53:49):
hey, what did your motherfuckers gotsimple that? I was even like,
no, that's too far off,that's rough. Yeah, I thought that
was too much. And I'm ahuge Oh well he said that, that's
funny. Jaz said something about mobdeep. I forget, I forget the

(01:54:17):
line. It's like, right,there wasn't going after and kicking the door.
No, he was okay because now, well it's the Hotes ship out
right there at that point and killeda lot of people. I did never
went after Park though, Right,that's a lot of bro. That's so

(01:54:40):
rough. Though he tried not to. I think they were friends and he
didn't want That's what I think.He kind of washed. He didn't want
to, but he made who shotyou? Who shot you? You know,
if you look it up, it'snot that's not about bro. He
recorded the same night he ordered that, the same night Pot got shot.

(01:55:01):
For some reason, they claim it'snot it's oh yeah, of course they're
gonna say that. Of course I'mgonna say that. But he recorded that
after Tupot got shot. And I'mnot gonna why. I'm a huge Pot
fan, but I was never againstPeggy monster. The both monsters both are
I had to pick that you can't. I'm not doing that, you can't

(01:55:28):
and then pigging two bucks, ftogether, well living living, running around.
It was like that does put togetherfrom the running from the Cops picture
that I'm too fat at my gapbust back because I have an asthma tack.
I mean, come on, comeon, that's fire fire that ship.
I was just like, damn,okay, all right, big damn,

(01:55:50):
that's crazy ship, bro, that'samazing. How about Pocking Breed?
You know that song one of myfriends doesn't even like, but he loves
a song with read together you don'teven like to really, they said,
that's that's two bos favorite, hisfavorite. There were so many, There
were so many, you like,yeah, I do, so do you

(01:56:13):
can you sort of pick a favoritesong or not? Really? Of course
I can't. Uh, before beforewe like off, I could, I
could do that. I could dothat last thing of the night. And
I'll do a little a little mentionedreal quick too. For the possibility of
a future than common song verse songsong. Yeah, I'm gonna have to

(01:56:46):
go honestly, for all the parkfans out there, I'm gonna have to
go, hollaby, Okay, Ihave to go because it was like not
at Biggie, not apathy, butit was it was it was like a

(01:57:08):
mix. It was like in between. Yeah, it's like, if you
want to see me, you betterholler at me. Who. So my
favorite it was Between. It's asong that a lot of people maybe don't
even know. Staring at my reviewit's on a game related soundtrack. He

(01:57:30):
says something about staring at the rearview and his heart is pumping and he
realizes and it ships. Yeah,that song actually, I feel like,
but I'll have to check that oneout. Yeah, I feel like that
song was the soundtrack to my hustlingDish. Yeah, that's why I liked
it so much. I was likeDamns talking to me. He was going

(01:57:54):
on like, this is this iswhat I'm doing, this is what I'm
living. I'm gonna have to stopthis year. I'm gone fucked literally like
Shaw, what are you doing?Bro? All right? All right?
I got you, Bro, gotyou? And then shameless plugs you gotta
do it, shameless. Most likelyI'll be performing in Hamden January. I

(01:58:19):
believe the Twelfth Life. Sure duchebug he runs those shows. I'll probably
in that. I'm hoping that's likeon my list. The biggest thing coming
though. I got a producer whoworked with snow Goons my whole seven song

(01:58:42):
EP album. He's from Australia.Yep. He's gonna be producing my whole
album. And all I gotta dois get in the booth and record my
uh my vocals, which I mayhave just found a studio for with a
chest to beato from the outlet froment. So I know that that's fire and

(01:59:08):
I have to learn to get mydone because I have writtens that have really
important stories that I want to puton the album. But because I free
flow as my normal roots, it'sgoing to be a challenge styles on there
too, because you don't have myroots. I gotta put it on there.

(01:59:30):
Trying to put some of my rings, and they're very controversial. I'll
tell you that right now, peopleare going to be mad. I don't
know, put it out there.It's going to be listened. People are
going to pay attention, even ifthey don't want to put it out there.
Bro put it out there, Okay, who cares? Anybody thinks?

(01:59:53):
Next year, I think I'm goingto try to do more shows I've ever
done. My whole life. That'smy plan. Put it out there that
I'm trying to work with and thenI might even get Long Island next year.
Really, I almost got it thisyear. Yeah, yeah, I
almost got it this year. Broput it out there. Argo Argo almost
got me on that. He's afucking awesome see who has a lot of

(02:00:16):
heart for hip He reached out tome and said he's gonna put me on
just because he feels like I'm goodfor the cost. It made me feel
pretty good. That's like hip hophimself. He didn't want no money either.
There's gotta be a great fucking feeling. Yeah, and he's a big
deal. Sar Go from s Ar g e O. G Oh yeah,

(02:00:38):
s R. I think the factthat I made that connection and then
might end up coming to the futuremakes me feel pretty good. You guys
out there, s A r GO and check it out, sar God
out where where. Yeah, that'sthat's monstrous man That's gonna be common at

(02:01:01):
some point because that's important to me. I feel like it was a huge
thing for That's Monstrous Manhattan. Ishould have done the Bronx. I didn't
do it yet in common It's onmy list just dopest ship man and eventually
again, that's that's amazing stuff.Actually, I have a friend of California.
I just find a way to goout there and do something. But

(02:01:21):
you gotta do what you gotta stayin his house. So I got I
just gotta get out there and beseen the fullest. Bro. That's amazing,
that's amazing, that's awesome. That'sthe future. I'm really glad I
got to do this podcast, andhonest bro, it was awesome. I
hit you out there. Bro,where are you performing on the podcast?

(02:01:44):
But that's not good? Ja.We love you. Yeah, Big Jay,
we love you. You better comethrough next time. Maybe I'll do
another one for sure, Sure,for sure. What did you guys want
come through? Showcase your music?Okay, it's your talents, bro,
mean to do sports? I reallyonly do the NFL. Oh yeah,
I don't talking n b A.I don't know what happened, but the

(02:02:10):
Jordan Magic era it's done. Ohyeah, it's far from over. Bro.
You gotta have a love for what'sgoing on right now. I do
love what Lebron's doing, what Stephis doing, what Katie is doing,
h Steph Dame. Definitely they're amazing, Swagger Show, Swagger showing Apple Ice

(02:02:36):
Sons, the Coach, and it'sit's about Kevin Durant in middle school.
It's pretty is that? Like?IM not sure? But it's really good,
all right, he's a good actor. Power Shows, Yeah, swagger,

(02:03:00):
breaking bad. Those are my favoritesso far, breaking back for me,
Like number one, That was ridiculous. Number one bro like number one,
Crash was number one, Number onewalking walking Dads up there. Number
two Power Such first season was probablythe best one. But don't get me
wrong, those spin offs are justas bad as really but that first one

(02:03:21):
really good. I haven't took noneof the fifty shows at all at all.
I appreciate you. Yeah, anythinggangster that has to be in the
lineup somewhere, check it out.Yeah, I haven't seen Sopranos. I
haven't seen Sopranos. You know,ship like that. I haven't seen it

(02:03:44):
but the last and I won't ruinit for you. The last season fucking
garbage. I heard about it.I heard about it again. I heard
about it because you go through allseven thinking, yeah, boy, let's
go. Yeah, you're like fuckyou, and then of course that died,
right, what's his name died.The main character was died in real

(02:04:04):
life. You can't ask me aquestion. I have no idea. I
actually did in a free flow onceI said something about me being the name
the new Yeah, but you gottasaid, you gotta send me ship that
bro I want to post it,so I'm all about showing local artists love.

(02:04:26):
Oh you got to hear the oneI just did when I like sort
of did it in a little bitof a d MX tribute X fire.
It was supposed to come out andthanks gimping. I called it be Thankful,
and I streamed the hook like actI did a cold Girls, but
I definitely dropped his name to makesure people knew I was paying a homage,
trying to be DMX. I didnever think that you paid a tribute.

(02:04:48):
It's just differently paying a tribute.You're showing love. I should show.
I should send that to you becauseit's pretty interesting. My favorite send
to me. I'll post it bethankful. Yeah, and to start spitting
my lyrics. I mean people brokesaid that share it who who whoever doesn't

(02:05:09):
like it or whoever likes it.But it doesn't matter exactly. That doesn't
doing something right exactly. I loveit, so you know, you know
I love it. I love it. I love it. That's what I
want coming through. Oh for sure, come through. It's not bad.

(02:05:35):
It's not bad. That is thata bad drive? You know? Nice?
Know I got my boy, Igot my hopie Mike Nash coming through
soon. We're trying to pinpoint adate, let me know, yeah popping.
Oh yeah, just to chill andhang out. See what you got

(02:05:57):
to say? For sure? Forsure, I told him many times.
No, he's fire, he's andfor me personally, yeah, for me
personally, My brothers know who Ihow I am, My brother, Big
j mother, brother Nick. Forlocal artists or even somewhat local artists,

(02:06:21):
I'll pick you. Yeah, I'llpick you if I'm gonna talk about it
or if I'm gonna have them onthe podcast. They're good. No,
they're good. They're good and theship and I appreciate what they're doing fire
And actually I told him so evenhaving you on the podcast, I like

(02:06:42):
what you do. I appreciate that. And it's not saying that I'm some
type of big wig or some typeof like expert whatever, that's just my
personal preference. Exacinitely I like that. I love it like he makes me.
He gives me cal Oh, yeah, he did that with Crooked.

(02:07:04):
He gave me yeah for real,that's the fact. Even it's crazy.
I used to work with him.I used to work with him. I
didn't think nothing of it. Yeah, I said, Bro, I used
to work with Crooked. I waslike, I rolled my eyes. I
did, but yeah, sure orwhatever. An hour after he told me

(02:07:28):
that, I looked at the songbecause we we had to uh my previous
job. We had two buildings,so I used to work in the second
building. So I was like,I'll go to my other the other building.
Whatever, Boob, play this track, see what it's about. I
played that ship all day. Iplayed all that ship all day and then

(02:07:48):
they were so fire. This isfour or five years ago, and he
holds his own. Yeah, shoutout Mikes if you're hearing now, because
baby Crook and Crooked is like oneof my favorite She's on the planet of
all time, Nash. Mike Nashheld his own, had two good too

(02:08:15):
great verses. Honestly held his ownand I love to have you guys both
at the same time. Me talksome music, bro, talk some hip
hop. Bro. We're gonna dothat. We're gonna make that happen.
It's gonna be awesome. It's gonnabe awesome. I even told him last
time how much I love that man, Like I really do feel you,

(02:08:39):
Brooke exactly, there's nothing but love. But I don't love everything. It's
hard to even if you're from NewYork, even when you were born of
the fucking Bronx. Every exactly.I'm a little picky too. There's nothing
wrong with that at all, becauseyou can't like everything you You really can't.

(02:09:01):
Honestly, you really can't. Youdon't like me, that's fine,
bro, And there's a lot ofpeople out there and that there's a lot
of people out there that hate.I think the podcast is boring and some
people. Bro, I just wantto talk ship. Literally, give me
ship for freestyle, Like it's almostlike it's not hip hop. It's not

(02:09:22):
important. Definitely is it? Definitelyis freestyles where it all started, exactly
exactly. You beat boxing dancing,No, that's important anymore. It should
be. That's real ship. You'retelling me. Cutting DJs is an important
anymore. Just because people aren't doingit doesn't it's not important. Exactly,
You're sucking up. Check your goddamn hip This is why, this is

(02:09:46):
why we are here to teach.We had an episode for about two hours.
Now there you go preaching hip hop. We're gonna we're gonna put it
the best. We're definitely coming backput it, put it back for the
night. You're right, Oh,I have to there. Definitely will be

(02:10:07):
boring anytime. And if he's inthe building, I want to be here.
Oh for sure. I'll let youknow. Match to the building.
You guys come through. This wouldbe awesome. Honestly, it's gonna be
amazing. Yeah, for sure.The drinks from the inviting of course.
Of course, you guys out theree J podcast just to eat tonight for

(02:10:30):
this episode. But it's all good. Check out Positive Positive Idea social platform
of course, freestyles whatever you guyswant to do. Positive ideas out there.
Positive worked for a while. Wereyou my insurance company? They had
me be the party guy. Yeah, I just went how about have to

(02:10:52):
check that out? You got tosee that one video I turned my shirt
off, the whole crowds going crazy. It was at maybe something take it
off like it might work, theremight be some fresh whatever. It gave
me a lot of of a durchcompany. I was after ten years,

(02:11:13):
I was doing shows at work forserious benefits, like we were what's the
word when you connect to companies merger? But yeah, come down wrap.
I'm like, isn't this a seriousmeaning? Like ice breaker? Well you're

(02:11:33):
serious? Do you come on down? Okay? It is. First time
I wrapped was at a company picnicand the vice president was a female Marion
soul. Shout out to her forthat. She told me do it.
Never talked to the big boss aboutit. He told me after that he

(02:11:56):
was super worried that I might causesome sort of class action lawsuit. That's
awesome. That's awesome. Man.Again, if you guys, ain't no
nice e J podcast every Saturday,try to record for you guys. Check

(02:12:16):
it out. Check keep some localartists, some local businesses, whatever,
whatever the case is. Last episodewere the wife, he's on the spot.
That was awesome. Check it out. Oh it's gonna be awesome,
gonna we're gonna check out the wife. He's think, you know, wife,
you think she begged me. Ithink I begged her, Big Jay,

(02:12:39):
he begged his wife. Oh it'sawesome, it's awesome. That's good.
Stuff. It's all it's all fun, man, it's all fun.
It's awesome. This episode was great, Oh for sure, for sure.
Talk enough about myself. We'll shavethat for next time. We gonna,

(02:13:00):
we're gonna, we're gonna you myboy Jack. We we're gonna get into
it big Sean. Man, Iappreciate you coming through Until next time.
Letters everybody, e j A podcastswe had of here h