Episode # 30- The Official Comeback Episode w/ Gr8ness

Tune in to the newest episode as we get to know local Hip Hop artist Gr8nes Murdock. We talk on his past stuggles in life that has led him to be the man/artist he is today. Also some Top 5 fun.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Kay right, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Podcast. It's been about five months. I missed everybody. Man,
it's been way too long since my last episode. But
I'm back with a special one to break the to
break the cold streak. I'm back with Greatness, the one
only Greatness. You go by greatness, Greatness, Murdoch, what do
you do?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's greatness. But there's another artist that used the name,
so I add Murdoch. That's my last name. Is is
pronounced that way, but it's spelled differently. But I actually
grew up on Murdoch Avenue in Queens, New York.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Gotcha, gotcha? So welcome to the show Man. Appreciate you
stopping through. You know, we've been to a couple of
performances out here and c T real quick. How do
you how do you get for performance? Like? What's the
process behind it? Just real quick? I want to get
into that because I see it.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
A lot you gotta be like, you gotta get up
in front of a lot of people. Yeah, you gotta
remember your lyrics. You gotta you know, be aware your
surroundings the same time, because you can't trust everybody in
the world. Oh yeah, So how do you prepare for
something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
So for me, it depends on whether I'm like booking
the show myself or if I'm on another persons show.
So if I'm booking the show myself, before I figure
out what I'm going to do, I gotta make sure
all the other artists that are performing are there, and
then I try to judge depending on the audience I'm

(01:40):
going to be in front of. So if I'm doing
a show in Talenting, the performance I do there is
going to be completely different than what I'm going to
do in Waterbury, or if I'm doing and like i
gotta show Saturday on Woodbridge, I'm going to be in
the show with like a lot of lyrical artists. So
in that sense, I gotta figure out what's going to
be the best for that audience. So then I go

(02:00):
to the studio and I'll get my set list ready
depending on how much time I have, you know, I'll
try to fit the story I'm trying to tell within
that time limit.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So you cater to the crowd and what what you're
going to go up against.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm really big on crowd feedback and
crowd response. Like, so like I'm i know a lot
of people don't do this anymore, but I'm one of
the old school type. So I'll pull the beat out
so you can hear a part of my my lyrics acapella.
So for that bar can hit a lot harder, you know,
and to get that reaction from the crowd.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Too many people do that. That's awesome. You can hear
what you're saying. Just mumble rapping, because that's the big
thing that's nowadays, and.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
That is that is that.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I even add sound effects and I have some gunshots
that go off for and everything, so.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
They're there for the performance. Oh yeah, what got you
into rapping?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Man? What? My dad? Yeah? My dad.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
My dad was a gangster, but he also was an
up and coming rapper. And my dad had me when
he was seventeen years old. He was seventeen my mom
both they were going seventeen, so.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
They were young, okay.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
And I used to watch my dad rap in the
kitchen at my grandmother's house. And he ended up going
away to jail for a long time. And I found
one of his old raps and he didn't finish it.
So I finished it and I took it to my
brother and my friends on the that lived on the
same block as me, and I'm like, yo, I got

(03:28):
some raps, you know. I started rapping with them and
we all made a little rap group together.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Now that just did it come natural when you when
you first looked at the at the page it was
the page or book or whatever it was.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, well I was something.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Was it something you had to work on because it
doesn't come natural?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
No?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
No, no, Well, prior to me firing at me and
my brother, you know, he mixed music with us as well.
We were big fans in Tupac, so we had the
All Lives on Me album and we thought it was cool.
We bought Mike's and Mike stands and we would wrap
the whole album to like our family members in the
living room and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
So when I found the rap, it was something that
I wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
But the writing part came natural for me, not more so, uh,
flowing to the beat.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
And deliver go.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Now you grew up in Queen, you said, yeah, yeah,
I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, And you know it was even more wild about that.
It was we liked all types of rap music, I mean,
from Mob deep Biggie, but Pac was on our playlist
as well.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Pac was our favorite, though.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, it was more because when Poc rapped you could
feel him.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
You're like, you know you felt that every.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Sure, Yeah, it was it was it was for me.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
It was like that, Yeah, yeah, you could feel.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
What they're wrapping about. You almost see what they were
actually living.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Do you have any like, what's your influences besides Tupac?
You just mentioned other other guys that no one would guess,
like besides the normal, like Biggie and Yeah, everybody everybody
has influence from jay z and and Nas who are
the random dudes, and hip hop because everybody has I
have mine. Yeah that you love to hear everybody's like,

(05:15):
oh shit.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
You know, I don't know that I'm not my thing
is So it's so fucking crazy, is because.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
It's not just like hip hop that I draw my
influences from.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
And a lot of times what connects me with the
artist is them having a song that I relate to
or I'm going through something at that time. So I
remember before we started, I was talking to you about
Eminem and and I had related to Eminem so much
when he first came out because he was a white
dude that there wasn't too many white dudes in rap.

(05:51):
And I felt kind of in a similar situation because
I'm very light.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
I'm black, but I'm very light.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
And I grew up in a predominantly dark air dark neighborhood,
you know.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
And when I moved.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
From where my grandmother lived at, I moved to a
project far away and far rockaway. I felt like an outcast.
I was no you know what I'm saying. I got
teased for being so light skinned, you know what I mean.
And I and like I said, my dad taught me
how to fight. I was fighting and everything. But something
happened to me when I went out there, and I
like lost my confidence, you know. I cut my hair off,
I had got a little permit. I looked like a

(06:26):
fucking I guess, a weirdo to them. And shit, that's
how I was treated.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
And I felt alone and then like Eminem's music had
uh made me?

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, it hit me and.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Then I was like, you know what, and I see
his music actually did give me confidence at that time.
But as far as other influences with writing, I fell
in love with the art of it and Cannabis was
somebody that I gravitated toys because of the way he
put his words together over the beat.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
We connect on that because I'm huge. Yeah, he's in
my top.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, Cannabis was dope. Uh to me, M was dope.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Cannabis and Eminem got me into the battle rap like
l being a fan of that, and I started off
like battle rapping when I really started writing out. Yeah,
and they were big influences from that. But uh also
Redman yeas Nas was definitely He's one of my favorites.

(07:25):
W greatest of all time. To me, he's one of
my favorites. A lot of his music I was able
to relate to because I grew up very poor, and
you know, his message was always delivered to the poverty stricken.
And and jay Z I was a fan of his rapping,
but I couldn't relate to it a lot of the
things he said because a lot of it that I

(07:48):
heard at the time was talking about money and things
that I didn't have. Yeah, you know, and and uh,
w as I deep as I dove more into his
into his music, I started becoming a fan of him
as well. Because of you know, there was other things
that I could relate to, and the way he delivered
it and painting his picture made me a fan of

(08:09):
him definitely. Big l came came like to me out
of nowhere because a lot of people would talk about him,
but I didn't hear too much of him until my
friends let me hear freestyle when he said something about
breaking some break you like a plastic spoon or something
like that, and I'm like, yo.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
We were playing yo. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And a.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Lot of early fabulous. I was a big fan of
fabulous already. To another person that I was a big
fan of was fifty cents, you know. I moved from
Murdoch north Side, Jamaica Queens. Then I moved the Far
Rock away, and then I moved to South Side Jamaica Queens.
And yeah, south Side Jamaican Queens. Yeah, I lived in

(08:51):
South Side Jamaican Queens for my mother still lives in
South sud Jamaica Queens. Literally like from two thousand and
one till now. So, I it was a lot of
fifty bumping back in the day and his consistency and
the way he flooded the market is what inspired me.

(09:12):
And then like I listened to him. The first thing
I heard it from him was called how to Rob?
And that was another thing that Another thing that I
liked about Eminem was because he wasn't afraid to talk
about anybody or want to smoke with anybody.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
And that it was me.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Because like, once I got my confidence back being in
for a Rockaway, I was at anybody. I mean, like
I you know, I literally with egg On gang members
and you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, I wrapped
the flag around my boat and I walk around with
my boot in the projects and say who wants to smoke?

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Like you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (09:44):
And that actually got me like respecting credit on the
street because it.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Was like, Yo, who's this little dude? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
And I credit that like I said to Eminem. But
when I went back to South Side and it was
like fifty cent heavy, Me and my team was already
making music at this time, and.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
The first thing I heard from fifty cent was how
to Rob? And he came at everybody and it was
like that Eminem thing.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I think that came out maybe like ninety eight or
ninety nine, maybe the year two thousand, and that made
me a fan of him because I'm like, oh ship,
But after he got shot and he came back and
he changed his whole style up. It was like he
wasn't as lyrical as he was prior to that, but
his songs had more impact, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
They just hit a little bit better.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so real quick.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
There's there is an artist before that that said my
top three that started, you know, just a celebrity, just
another rappers because he didn't care and he passed earlier
this year. Cheer Uxel Recipexell. Yeah yeah, I know, one
of my top three of all time. Yeah yeah, was
coming at him at one point. Yeah yeah, because because

(10:51):
she dropped the line about pock and jail and pocket
like that. So he put him on the line and
hit him up yeap and all that. But people don't
give him credit for because.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
He came at part. That was the crazy part.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah yeah, So I like to throw that out there as.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Much as yeah I actually actually pops no g excel
Yeah yeah yeah, well you know past.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
That was a sad day. Yeah, how do you stay
motivate to keep doing music?

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Like what's like there's hip hop artists love doing music.
That's without a doubt. Yeah, what keeps you wanted to
do it? Because there's something out there that I listen to. Yeah,
they just stopped. No one knows the reason. But keeps
you wanting to keep.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
My motivation right now is it's not letting down a lot.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Of people who believe in me, a lot of people
who've been waiting on me for twenty years to beat
the version that I am of myself and and the
way I feel right now, I'm so passionate about it.
So this project that I'm working on, well, that's it'sretty
much finished and putting a finishing touches on it. It's
called Destined for Greatness. I was originally supposed to put

(12:06):
this out in two thousand and two.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Two thousand and two.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, wow, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I gotta one of the videos that were up there.
I have a picture and I put two thousand and
two on it, and uh, and I put the photo
that I was going to use for the mixtape that
I was going to put out of it then to
what I got right now, you know.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
And one of my motivations.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Is proving any and everyone wrong who doubted me and
didn't believe in me, and that fused me because I
didn't believe in myself for a long time, you know,
and I and I just started believing in myself about
a year ago.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, self confidence is important, especially when you wrap.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh yeah, you gotta be not cocky, but you gotta
be confident when you Oh, they're just you're going to
kill anybody?

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
How do you incorporate your personal experiences in your music?

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Everything I talk about is real life.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Everything is something I've been through, I've seen, or I'm doing, like.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, I've been around. My entire life is in my music.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
How do you how do you try and balance that?
Because not nowadays? You hear the rappers that be out
now then I talk about their every day life. Some
of them do for sure, so don't How do you
try and incorporate both? You get to appeal to the masses. Yeah,
we're gonna get into your views and YouTube real quick
in a few minutes.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
So I.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Not to to my one, but I'm a very well
rounded person outside.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Like a confident Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I mean when I say well rounded, I mean like
I'm into probably about anything you can freaking think of.
I mean from being a pro wrestler to running the
streets to having a regular job, to party and like
a motherfucker, to being into some real deep conscious stuff.
I mean talking about pulling out books at doctor Malacho,
I e Z York. I'm into like Behold of Pale

(14:12):
White Horse. You know, I'm it was real heavy into
the conspiracies to everything. But I'm very spiritual as well,
you know, And and I'm with the shit. If somebody
wanted to, we can have a good time, where we
can have a bad time, you know what I mean.
But I spread love. I don't spread violence. I could
talk about violence because I've.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Been through a lot of violent things.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I've had a lot of terrible things happen to me,
and I've done things that I'm not proud of. But overall,
I've had I lived a life where I can pretty
much talk about any and everything, you know, from being
at rock bottom to to living like the people you
see on TV, you know, to work work in a

(14:53):
regular nine to five job and being happy with that.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
So when it comes to relating to today's audience, I
have experiences that like if they want to talk about
turning up, and then I can talk about turning up.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
You know, every song that comes out now is about
you know, yeah, yeah, whatever, that's that's what it is now.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
So when someone comes out with some content, I like
that stuff. I want to hear what you have to say.
I don't want to hear about.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Your lead yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Thousands of dollars because that's not real life.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
That's not real life.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, but that's like so, but also with the well
rounded it's the same thing with like my music. I
try to make a little bit for everybody, like you know,
and that is the fun and the artistic thing about
it with me. But and that's also with my taste
because it all depends on my mood. Like if if
I'm in a club, I'm in a bar, I I

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you know, I'm.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Not going to be looking for eminem you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
If I'm sitting there with my headphones on, I want
to hear some cannabis.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
I want to hear some you know, some bars.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
But if I'm out vibing on driving, you know, to
hear yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, some.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Girls, you know, stuff like that's chilling. You just want
to relax.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh yeah, if we're party girls dancing, we have a
strip club that I want to hear.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yeah. Yeah, so so I want to.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Make music for people with their headphones on and the
people that's sitting in the strip clubs as well.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Like you know, I'll try to make a little bit
for everything. I appreciate that that's not bad. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Do you have any favorite song you did that's like
you're number one for yourself? Like when you made that,
you was like, yeah, this is this is probably my
best track, my deepest track, my darkest track, whatever the
case is.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Do you have one of those type of songs? I do?
But then I'll make another one and I'm like, no,
I sit now.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
But as far as the two songs right Now that
I like have out that people can go and check
out right now would be Crying No More and the
song called Leaving Soon Lovers love for two different, completely
different reasons.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
The Leaving Soon is because.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
I speak about a lot of my own personal trauma
in that song, and that was like the first time
I ever wrote some of that material down like on
paper and set it out loud like stuff that I
went through and saw and.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Cry no more.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Because of like the journey I went through in my
entire life to put like you know, I put out
music before like ten twelve years ago, and.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
You know, with help from others.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
But Crying No More was the first music video that
I put the put out myself on my own money,
you know, and the story I was telling in it,
it didn't work out right because like in the beginning,
the part is like the phone is spinning for really
long and my dad is talking.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
It wasn't supposed to be that long either.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
But my dad was supposed to be in the video,
but he couldn't make it that day, so he came
the next day. And like I said, making music was
something that my dad inspired me to do originally, and
growing up as a kid, I always just wanted to
make him proud. He was he went, he went to
prison for a long time, and you know, I was

(18:15):
running the streets. I was doing a lot of knucklehead stuff.
And then like when I made music. You know, he
gave me the name Greatness. When I was a little kid,
he used to look me in the mirror and tell me,
you know, he was big greatness and I was little greatness,
meaning that anything I do in life reached for greatness
and nothing can stop.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Me no matter what I want to do. If I
want to make music.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Nothing can stop me if I want to be a
pro wrestler, doesn't matter if anyone tells me I'm too
small to do it. I'm gonna do it. Reach for
greatness anything you want to be. And he used to
tell me all the time when.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
I was a little kids.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, and when I started making music, I called myself
little greatness. And we had a great relationship while he
was in jail, and I waited so long for him
to come out of jail, and I just wanted him.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
I wanted him to come home from jail.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
And I had a record deal and I got the
mouth and the hood, and life didn't happen that way
for me. You know, I got too caught up in
partying and you know a lot of other personal things
that went by. But I had a whole team of
people that was making music. Like we all have a
tattooed on our neck, like we had studios built. Everything
was going in the right way, but then there would

(19:20):
always be something small that felt that that fell apart,
you know, from like our manager killing itself, you know,
to us all separating and going different ways, and then
inner personal problems and you know, just life happened, and
when my dad came.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, when my dad came home, it just the week
he came.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
The day before my dad came home, I was I
was kind of ashamed because I had just lost my job,
I didn't have any money, I had a kid. He
was going to meet my son for the first time.
And you know, it was a great day. Like I
was so happy. I was so overwhelmed that I cried.
But no one else was around because I was so
fucking happy because I waited so long for my dad
to come home.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
And then it just so happens that week. My boy Felts.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
He's a part of our team as well, and at
this time, he was like really doing his thing. He's
doing shows all over the place, his music videos, and
he just so happened to call me and say, yo, bro,
I gotta I got a song I need you on
and we're gonna shoot a video for it Saturday.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Now.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Prior to that happened that summer of me and my
boy Dreams and over Here was working on a mixtape
together and that was and our music was coming out great.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Like his uncle was in the music industry and set
up a block party.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Let us perform on it and everything, and we were
the hashtag wave boys and it was about to go crazy,
like you know, we had a lot of build up,
but then life happened and he had to move to
another state. So I took that project and took a
lot of the songs we were working on and started
working on a solo mixtape. And then it seemed like
it was gonna halt for a second. But then, like
I said, my boy Felts came through put me in

(20:47):
his music video. Same week my dad came home. So
my dad came home to like the music stuff still rolled,
so he didn't even realize that that there was a
big hump and shit was fucked up because he was
given a picture that was paying way different.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
So everything was popping.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Like my mother was telling him stuff that wasn't taking place,
like stuff wasn't going.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Well, but he was. It just happened that way. And
then we did the video. My dad's in the music video,
and now.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I'm putting out the mixtape that him and I was
originally working on together. Now it's my own mixtape, and
he's coming home and seeing this, and it didn't turn
out the way I want. I hope because I was
going on for someone else's dollar. It wasn't my money
that was putting it together. So like things that I
wanted on it taking care of wasn't taking care of.

(21:33):
And then the way the overall thing came out, I
wasn't happy with it, but I really couldn't say much
because I didn't have any money.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
And me and my dad got into like.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
A little dispute because he couldn't make it to the
first video shoot that I was doing for it, and
we got into an argument. We got into an argument,
and it was real bad and it kind of discouraged me.
So for a while I was working on a lot
of music with other people and pushing and like on
group projects and stuff like that. So this entire year

(22:04):
I stopped drinking April of last year, and once I
stopped drinking, I started working on music again and I
had really put everything into this, And when my dad
couldn't make it, he thought I was gonna be upset again,
and I was like, no, no, He's like, but I'm
coming the next day. So we recorded some footage on
the phone of him giving me some jewels for the

(22:25):
for the thing that we were doing in the video,
he's giving me advice and it was gonna an original
idea was I'm telling my son the same thing he
told me about being greatness and stuff like that. And
then my dad was supposed to come in and say, hey,
we got to go take care of this, so we
had to pull an audible, but I wanted him to
be in the video, so I put the phone footage

(22:46):
up there, and when I watched it for the first time,
it was like I was sitting there. It wasn't even
on YouTube yet. Actually I did. I threw it right
on that because I should have. I was supposed to
hit him back and tell him to cut some of
it talking out, but I was just like, yo, let
me put this out. So when I put it out,
I sat there and I watched it, and I had
the craziest flashback of my dad saying it to me,
like watching me say what he said to me as

(23:08):
a kid, and I don't know, it's just it was
an indescribable feeling and I couldn't even get the words out,
like to say anything anyone.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
And I just cried, like, you know, out of happiness.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
So Cry No More is definitely my favorite because of
that yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Feel that.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
You quit drinking. Is that because you were felt like
you were drinking too much or just because you wanted
to take a different path.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
It's different for everybody.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, that's a it's a huge before we go, that's
a huge success over a year of not drinking all
to do that, I can't so much respect I could.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
I was able to do anything. I mean, whether molly, coke, weed, drinking.
I never like smoke cracker, didn'ty dopeen upthing like that.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
But I partied. But the problem that the.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
One that I couldn't the one thing I couldn't stop
doing was alcohol.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Like anything.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
I stopped smoking weed, no problem, you know what I mean.
I just couldn't stop drinking. But I got I got
really depressed, and I was drinking a lot, like more
like I shouldn't have drank that much. And then I
got depressed to the point I got suicidal and I
tried to drink myself to death.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
I watched this movie.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
With Nicholas Cage in it called Leaving Las Vegas, where
he did that, and I don't know why I thought
it was a good idea to do that. I mean,
I think it was a good idea. I just didn't
want to be here no more, and that was the
way I wanted to go out. So I like rented
out a hotel room for a week and I got
as much alcohol as I could get, and to the
part I couldn't leave, I was having it uh delivered

(24:51):
to me at at the place.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
I was staying at, and I it didn't work. It
didn't work.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
I ended up when I when I left out the
hotel room, I went back to my ex girlfriend's house
where I lived at the time.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Were broken up, and I had this and I was.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Living in the basement, and I don't know, I felt
like I let my whole family down.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
I let everybody that believed in me down.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I was married for a long time, you know, I
was divorced, and then I just I destroyed the girl
that that I was madly in love with. I destroyed
her and that was like, I guess, destroyer that broke
the camel's back. And I felt like I was a
burden to everybody, and I felt like, you know, I
would get drunk. I would call my mother crying and
tell her that I'm sorry for being a failure, and

(25:36):
you know, stuff like that, and I was to the
point where I giving up completely on everything.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
I was just like, you know what this is it.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I poured a whole bunch of drugs on the counter
and I was and I tried to consume it all
with the alcohol, and uh, my ex wife just randomly
came over there, knocked on the door and I open
up the door and my eyes were like bloodshot red.
I'm just crying and she's just asking me, like what
are you doing? And I just kept saying I'm sorry.

(26:07):
So she called the crisis unit, and the crisis unit
took me to the hospital and I had I had
to sit in this white room, no outside, nothing, and
I had to reflect and I reflected on everything that
went wrong in my life and what was I doing.
What's the one thing that I couldn't change in my life?
And it was just drinking, and because it caused me

(26:28):
to become a person that I wasn't And instead of
me blaming alcohol or blaming anyone else, I was taking
full accountability. And it was like, it was me who
let those demons and I have cool control.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
So when I leave out of here, I'm not going
to drink any more alcohol. And once I left out
of there.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I just I didn't drink anymore, and everything started going
right for me.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
You know, alcoholism. My grandfather died for that back in
two thousand and seven. He drank a lot trying to
help him out. Yeah, about to drink liver failure that
I end up doing them in, but hits the heads
home a little bit. I understand. I don't fully understand
because I didn't go through it myself, but I definitely
understand that.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I mean, I had had I suffered a lot of
losses in my life. People close to me passed away.
And when I was younger, when I was about maybe
like twelve years old, I was attacked in the library
and the dude tried to kill me and he touched
me in private areas, and I dealt with that by

(27:32):
going to the streets, and I was like, nobody could
will ever do that to me again. I became I
tried to become a super gangster like anybody I could.
I was fighting, you know what I mean, And that
was something that for a long time I couldn't say
out loud. So I used to get fucked up a
lot to not think about that, you know, And I
carried that with me for a long time.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
And then, like I said, I manager killed hisself.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
I saw him a couple of hours before that happened,
and he asked me to talk to him. And at
the time, I was seventeen and he was thirty five,
and and wherever from. Suicide wasn't something that that we
dealt with on a regular basis. So he said to me,
if I didn't talk to him, he would kill herself.
And I was like, man, you're grown ass man, take
your ass to sleep, and I rolled over. Then a
couple hours later, he jumped in front of a train.

(28:13):
So I lived with that in my head for a
long time, those you know, And I tried so hard
to suppress those memories. So I tried to drink and
do whatever I could to have a good time. So
I didn't think about that. And I had blamed myself
for it for a long time. And yeah, and I
and you know that type of that type of stuff

(28:39):
will cause you to dive deeper into this and that that's.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Makes me feel like you're having a great time, so
that way, you.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Know, and yeah, yeah something or something.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, And I didn't know that that I was manic.
I didn't even you know, Like I said, where I
grew up at, these type of things weren't stuff we
were diagnosed with because we didn't know. We just something's
wrong with them, like you know, we didn't go get
help and ship like that. So I didn't find out
that that I was manning until like I was thirty.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
You know that's huge to you know, say that out loud.
It's yeah, it's a big step forward. It's uh, some
dark stuff. Man, I even know what else to say
that it just sucks, but you feel comfortable now you
can talk about it. Yeah, you're in a good space.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Now.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
I feel like I feel like me speaking about it
could possibly help someone else out you.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Know that's going through something similar. You know.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I want to get back to the music because yeah, yeah,
I had a dark and I appreciate you sharing that that.
It's you get to know people that way. Yeah, you
create a connection like that. Yeah, and you get to
know what they've been through on life. And because now
everybody lives the same life, we all got different lives,
different shit, it's happening all the times.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Oh yeah, So back to music.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yes, when you step into the booth, you like to
right you actually just freestyle the top or whatever comes
to you, or if you're in a store shopping, just
come to you. But I'll write that down. I gotta
remember that to say that.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Just like that, Just like that. A lot of times.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Uh, I get to write the most music when I'm
at work because I have an office and I can
play my phone in the office. So when I can
go out deal with people, I'm thinking in my head,
go back to my office, write it down a little good.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, yeah, I do, so do you think?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Real quick? Off subject? Jay Z never wrote ride in
his life.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
I believe he did. He had, Yeah, too much stuff
he wrote.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
So many people.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Also like the lyrical exercise is something like where I'm from,
when we heard that song, they did lyrical exercise. A
lot of us started looking into it and fact out
it's something that they do and it's not. It's basically
like you're writing it in your head without on paper.
You're repeating something to you memorized, and then go on

(31:03):
to the next line. And I believe he mastered it.
You know, I've watched my boy Dreams going there with
no material and finish his verse as he's recording it.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
You know, that's insane. Yeah, but we got some special power.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, yeah power.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Today. I do have a coworker that did that, so
I used to work with him. But I think this
back in twenty thirteen something like that. Yeah, and that's
when the Kendrick Control Verse came out. Yeah, and he's
from New York, Poughkeepsie or whatever, and shout out Jermaine.
Now he's gonna be on episode soon. He while we

(31:45):
were working, was wrapping his verse the whole day. I said,
what are you doing? He's like, I'm just rapping. I said,
what I was wrapping for this Kendrick Martin. I was like,
what out of here yet?

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, yeah, So we're dripping and ship you're working and
he's wrapping his whole verse. What are you doing? Because
back the next day here, let's get the track I recorded.
It was everything he was before.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
That's dope.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
He didn't write down, just at work, just wrapping it.
He rememberized it. Yeah, and it was a response to
Kendrick because everybody was responding to Kendrick. But it was
all and you don't right now his and not. I
just I just kind of remember what I'm thinking about,
say I say it out loud. I remember it well.
I put it to audio.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I love the freestyle. I don't freestyle as much as
I used to, but we always used to freestyle, especially
him or not.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
But freestyling to.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Me is almost like practice, you know, and then you
can find some pretty good ship up that you were
Wait a minute, did I say that?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
You know?

Speaker 3 (32:41):
The worst ones are the ones you don't record because you're,
like I said, some hot ship lash.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Is anybody you want to work with? First of we'll
go local. Anybody you want to work with locally that's
you know good or you know everyone.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
I want to work with everyone.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
There's a dude named Steady I'd like to work with.
He's this is the battle rap thing and he's pretty
big in Waterbury.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Dude Squatch.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
He just shot this video for me a couple of
weeks ago, this god mode freestyle I did.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
I definitely like to work with him. He's pretty dope.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, there's a lot of talented local artists that I'd
love to work with.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Is full of it.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
It's just connecique.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's overlooked because we're between Boston and New York.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, I would have never thought there was a hip
hop scene in Connecticut myself before moving out here.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
So when I grew up listening to mostly New York rappers,
just I didn't think anybody was in Cetquet was rapping.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
My first person I heard was nas nobody, it's crazy.
How about big time? And what would be like your dream?
Just one one?

Speaker 4 (33:54):
I need that nosed Yeah, I need to hear that fire.
You've been fifty or fifty fifty? Yeah, I'd love to
do it. I love to work with fifty. If you
ever listened to this podcast, check out my catalog. Man,
I need to fuck with your dog chilling.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
He's living his best life. Oh yeah, you mentioned your
god both freestyle. Yeah, I peeped. There was fire. She
had a cannabis lighting there. I didn't like, but that's
another story.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
What does that tell me? Oh well, well well let's
get it. Let's get it because.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Like so, so, I was listening to that week right yeah,
because you uploaded what eight days ago?

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah something, listen to it last.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Weekend, and the first listener to right here, I was playing,
let me listen.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Then I heard that line. I was like, he did it?
And then I replayed it again. I was like, he
did what was that about?

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Bro? All Right?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
So, so, like I said, I was a big Cannabis fane,
and whence the battle rap scene started becoming popular. I'm
I'm watching King of the Doe and they said they
hyping up him battling Disaster, So I'm like, oh, this
is crazy. Like I was a fan of Disaster. He

(35:10):
has like an eminem style and he also freestyle, so
I'm like, oh, this is gonna be crazy because we
never got like the Cannabis Eminem official battle, so that
to me, that was like the closest we're going to
get to it. So I was excited about it. And
you know, his first round, he came in swinging, and
then he pulled out.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
The first and second one, and then he pulled out the.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Pad and I was like, damn, man, what is doing
And then and but then and then and then, like
Disaster did like this.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
He went from freestyle to written in between it and
said he was going to do it as he did it,
and it was like that third verse was just like
oh shit. And that made me.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Really a fan of Disaster at that point, because like
I said, he reminded me of him.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
But that battle made me a fan of him.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
He said some crazy shit about dragging up the side
of the body like King Kong. Like it was crazy,
you know, he said some wild ship, and you know,
I was like, yo, disaster I thought I thought it
was gonna be a great battle was.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
To work.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Oh my gosh, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
So so so the line, so the line was basically
like so I'm like, uh So, I'm like, uh, this.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Year, I ain't having the guardess who you clash it with?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
So I'm basically putting myself on a guard teer level
by saying that line. The goddess who you clash with?
Poseidon to a battleship. This can get disastrous, you know,
like I'm the wave guard, you know what I'm saying. No,
I'm the guard of the sea and just a battleship.
And then the next line is can't this this can't
get disastrous. So it was it's just supposed to be
just wordplace. So get disasters cannabis, disaster ship. Can I

(36:49):
get a paddigan cannabis and dad pins? Meaning he got smoked,
you know, can I get a paddigan cannabis and dad pins?

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Can I get an ad lib?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Because he said disaster says a line where he was like,
you're standing there probably waiting for your man to do
an ad lib, like you said he said some ship
like that he wait't for your man to do an
ad lib or something like that.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
He said that it was fire.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
It was fire.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I was like, it wasn't a shot at him.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
No, I know, I know it wasn't. But I was like,
that's a good wordplay right there, the way you flipped it.
It was it was fire. I can't even lie. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, and like, only if you're really into battle rap,
would you would you podcast that?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Sure, because there's lot of people that like battle rap
but don't know that bad. Yeah, what happened everybody?

Speaker 3 (37:28):
And how long ago it was now? But like twelve
something like that, yeah, like twenty twelve. Yeah, And I
like and I wanted that track to be like one
of those like I'm talking to anybody who feels like
you know, and then I even say so it's more
like a battle rap theme kind of a verse the
way I do it, and like I even say a.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Part or I say my name being greatness.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
We really wanted you can snatch it meaning that because
there's other artists that used the name, but I know
they wasn't using his name in two thousand, two thousand,
in one, nineteen ninety nine, and like I'm on mixtapes
in nineteen ninety nine, I'm on mixtapes in two thousand,
I was a pro wrestler in two thousand, I was
a pro wrestler in two thousand and four. With my
name on posters, you know what I'm saying, or you
know what I'm saying. So I've used I've had this

(38:12):
name tattooed on my next since I was sixteen and
I'm thirty nine right now. So so I tell you,
I know nobody was running around with that name.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
So if y'all want, the name is my name. But
because y'all put it out there before me, you know
I had to. You know it is what it is.
But you can step up, you know what I mean.
I guarantee you ain't leaving with it.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I guarantee you that open Challenge's open challenge.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Any other artists we're using the name greatness, come and
see me, and I guarantee you won't be using that
name after you see me.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Put let's do it. Purchase that's that's that's how gangster
I am with it.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
I put the name up, I won't use it if
you beat me, But I highly doubt there's another greatness
that's gonna take this for me.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Now on your godbo a freestyle you're up to like
almost in eight days. It Yeah, a couple other your
videos I was watching, Wait boys got that track? It's
called wave Boys, right.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Wave Boys get that?

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, K man. That's not a lot for like the
big you know YouTubers out there, but for us, Yeah,
that's a lot of that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
So what was crazy is because, uh, the first couple
of days when I put out the cry No More track,
it was getting a lot of traction. I was like,
oh shit, it's got like four hundred five hundred views already.
But after I put out the Leaving Soon of a single,

(39:31):
I got contacted by this radio station in the UK,
ask Becauld. They played the song and yeah, and they
played the song. After they played the song, all my
ships started blowing the fuck up. I mean, like my
fucking Instagram followers went up by a few thousand. My
my my Facebook went from I think like three thousand

(39:52):
to almost ten thousand followers. Yeah and yeah, like almost instantly,
so I was like, all right, doing something right now.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
But the u K. I have my last one of
my last interviews I did with Got for a lot
of big artists in the game. He worked with, work
with Snoop, he's a lot of people. Had an interview
with him and we were talking about the fans in
the UK.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
They love here more than Yes.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
A lot of people here like our hip hop's appreciate it. Yes,
so that that's awesome you used to plays over there
is gonna blow up because they love it. They don't
love the old rap that we have over here.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
They love we have yes, Yes.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
And it's crazy because it was that particular song which
is not.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Like a commercial song, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
But it has like a commercial kind of feel with
my boys singing a hook on it, so it's catchy.
But if you listen to the lyrics I'm saying, and
and now that you mentioned it, it's it's the lyrics
that they more appreciate over.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
For sure, they love it. I love the UK. I
need to go over there and visit just because of that.
Just they love when if someone like the old school
artists goes there like rass casts. Yeah, they're gonna sell out,
They're gonna sell out, and over here, you rascas probably
won't even sell out of a fucking theater. Yeah, yeah,
roughly that's an estimate, but he might. Yeah, but that's
just average. So a couple of other videos you got

(41:17):
on there. You got Credit War, which is one of
your favorite tracks, one of my favorite tracks for twenty
four thousand views. That another one that played overseas that
was just getting attraction here myself.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
That got more traction after the leaving Zion Pertre Okay,
the same thing, And that's crazy because that one only
on YouTube, that one only has like five six thousand
something views, but.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
The streams on while the it's really high.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
On Okay, yeah, I have that one of thirty four kid. Yeah,
that's pretty good. You got super Soaker at twenty eight
k Like, how does that do you feel? The type
of way where you see the views get that high,
like this is like this is happening now. Yeah, it's
popping right now. You gotta keep attacking it right now
because right now.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
That's why I just didn't That's why I just shot
another video just as fast. Saturday like I gotta flood
content and even like recorded, like I would like to
record like podcast interviews with you.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
I can load up on there. We can come have
time chop up for us. I want. I just want
to put out more and more content.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
And it doesn't just necessarily have to be just directing
with the music, you know, I would like people to
get to know me and and know my brand, you know.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
But yeah, it makes me.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
It's definitely motivated me to do more. Like I see
that and I'm thinking of the next song, I'm thinking
of the next idea I'm taking on the next project.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
I'm thinking of the next way to market, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
I'm like, I'm seeing that makes me work more on
my YouTube and work more on my my Facebook professional
dashboard and the Instagram one so I can boost how
many how many ads I'm putting out for it. I
got orders of uh stickers and flyers coming out just
to promote my channels on it now.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
So it's definitely very much motivating.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
And the response I'll be getting just from like family
members you know that I have, you know, just hit
me up to tell me they were proud of me
and stuff like that, you know, And and like I said,
there was a lot of people that's been waiting on
this version of me for a long time, and that.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Loan is awesome in itself. Yeah, even just your family
reaching out to be like hey, yeah, I love what
you're doing. That's awesome. Keep it up, good guys. Even
just a regular good job. It's just oh yeah, so underappreciated, yes, because.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Like ten years ago, ten years ago, I wasn't getting
those responses from my music. It was like, well, you know,
you better make sure you sign that job appcase. Now
it's getting like all right, yeah something about the pop.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Yeah, that's what that's what.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
My responses are getting more for, Like like yo, all right,
so when you get where we're going there, which you
know what I mean. So like people people see my
work ethic and they see that the work I've been
putting it, it is finally starting to pay you.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Do you have a song that is inspired by that
dark moment in time that.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
You went through? Do you? Or do you? I have
a about that time?

Speaker 3 (43:59):
The last song on my album is called Weirdly Greatness Go,
and on that track, I speak about a lot of
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
That was it difficult to make a track like that
because it you know, so it's so deep and I
don't mean to get to personal.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
That song.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
And I have a song that I wrote for my grandfather,
probably only two songs.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
That I was I was crying while I was writing
to hear those.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
When do you have the album dropping?

Speaker 4 (44:32):
My plan is New Year's Eve that right around the corner,
man right there, right there.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
When I leave here, I'm going right to the studio
to try to put some of those in order.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
And you know, who do you have on the album?
You have any guest features.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Or yeah, yeah, I've got Dreams He's on it, a
couple of tracks on it, hashtag wave Boys, I got Queen.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Man on it.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I have an artist on their name, Abigail Rico. She's
got a really wonderful voice.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
I've seen her perform one of those voices.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Oh yeah, we got a banger called Bonnie and Clyde
twenty five that. Yeah, I should be putting that single
out soon. I'm planning to probably dropping a video for
that around like Valentine's Day. That's a really good song.
That's one of my favorite songs that's on the project.
I got who else? I got my man Calico Crisis

(45:31):
as on Deck Records is something we started in New
York that we're reviving since everything's been going back together. Yep,
he's up. My brother, you know, he's on the project.
Him and I was working on a project. We got
a group called Lost Forever in the name of our
brother that died a couple of years ago. I took

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a couple of songs that were supposed to go on
that project because I pushed that project back. That's gonna
go on here, so my brother will be on there.
I got a song with my sister. Her name is
don de d look out for her. She's got a
lot of great music out, so she's gonna be on
it as well. I'm trying to make sure I'm not
missing anyone. I have another song with another artist named Sophie.

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She's singing on a chorus with my.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Sister on it. I believe I think that might be it.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I think that might be Spotify all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
All streaming platform. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Any moment in your career so far that you're like, yeah,
this is this is it? Like this is I like
this ship? Keep doing this?

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Yeah? Yeah, like this like the first time since I've
been making music, I mean back in New York. People
know me for rapping like that, grew in my neighborhood
and stuff. But this is the first time where like
I've been like at work or I went somewhere strangers
have noticed me and said, yo, I saw your music video,

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like you know, actually take a picture with me, Like.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
So like.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Definitely was a good feeling.
So that's one of them. Another one was just like, uh,
performing with my sister and my brother and my boy Dreams.
After everything, we all all of us collectively went through
together and we did a show at Crossroads and it
was probably the most packed show we did.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
And you know, I've done toys where it was like dead,
like I went on a touris here.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
It was a fun experience, but it wasn't that many
people there, and like, this was something I did on
my own.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
And I was standing and looking.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
At the Facebook live that I was posted as I'm
doing it, and I look back and then I realized
that it was packed from where I was at at
the stage all the way to the end of the bar,
like you know what I'm saying and to me, and
I looked out, I saw Dreams there, and you know,
my mother was there. My mother was sitting on it
was a birthday and I was just like, yo, I
did this, Like we did this, you know what I mean?

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That to me, that was this past year, since I've
got back into music, was the most satisfying feeling.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Oh how do you handle like you just said you right?
A bar passed fired? It's awesome feeling. Yeah, I'm pretty
sure everyone goes through it and one time in their
life it was empty. Yeah, it was empty. How do
you do you go forward with something like that?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Well, like the last show we just did Saturday, it
didn't get that many people in there.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Normally it does.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Because how do you push past that that that might
say that damn nobody here that I was supposed to do, Like,
that's just stuff I think about as a fan listening
and watching Damn nobody's here. What's you about to do?
You know, your performer, you didn't perform? Well, how do
you get past that? That that block for me to
be a block.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
So so what got me past that was, you know,
I got paid to do it.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
So once I got paid my money, I was like,
you know what this was worth it? No? But no,
but the money, I know.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
But as from another standpoint that, in my opinion, was
completely on myself. I was I was under the weather
this past week. A lot of times, you know, my
friends joked and called me lateness because I'm always behind
on shit. But you know, like but this was like
the first time, like I didn't like actually get flyers
printed up, have posters in the smoke shops at the

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gas stations.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
I was under the weather.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
So I had I sent the copy of the flyer
Thursday to the and the show Saturday, so I.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Had just got it time.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Yeah, I put up I started posting Thursday till Saturday.
So for the handful of people that did come, and
that wasn't just like regular bar people that actually came
to see us, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
But it was like it was like, Okay, I.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Didn't promote at all, and people still showed up, you
know what I'm saying. And it wasn't it didn't have
to be crazy enoughing like that. But I didn't have
the opportunity to perform at all. And there was like
a lot of outside things going on. Like I said,
I was under the weather. Why I didn't promote the
way I should have been promoting And that's not an excuse.
So I'm just gonna take all the fault on me.
Next time I will do better.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I thought it was still good. Showed up and it
was still a good performance. Everybody that showed up was
it was still. It was awesome with fire, drinks were
good at the bar. It's a good bar.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Shout at the Crush Roads. Shout of the Crush Roads.
Twenty nine and Main Street. Great staff, great food.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I tried to food yet it's got the food's good.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Food's good. Food's good.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
I got great owners.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
They got great bartenders. You know. I used to uh
so it used to have partners Ryan and he owned
our plot.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
He owned it was called the Barn.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
And when I first got out here, I was like, yo,
it'd be I saw a dude out here putting on
a show, and I was like, yo, I'd love to
if I could. If I get back in the music,
I love to do it here. And then he ended
up owning the Tipsy Pig. And when he owned the
Tipsy Pig is when I had like, I think they
were about to go out in a few months and
I was just starting to do music again, and I
and I went and did a couple of shows, and

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I was like, y'a, I might as well try to
bring this back to torrenting. Let me see what I
can do. So I went to him and I was like, hey, bro,
let me ask you something. If I take care of
the DJ, I don't want to get any money if
I take care of the DJ, this, that or third,
would you let me do a show here?

Speaker 4 (51:23):
He's like, yeah, shoot, go for it. Why not?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
So he gave me a date, which happened to be
the day Biggie Smalls died.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
You know what I mean, Yeah, March night. Let me.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
He gave me an opportunity, and I promoted the ship
out of it. We packed that ship the funk out
and haven't looked back since.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
And once the Tipsy Pig went down, he went into
partnership with the people at Crossroads, So my deal with
him went over the Crossroads.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah yeah, now you mentioned something of this past performance.
Is your last time performer at Crossroads?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
No, just yeah, something behind it?

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
I'm just gonna take a quick little break so that
once I finished up the album, I'm going to I'm
gonna be heavy and promoting.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
I was off for the opportunity to host.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
An open mic every Monday at at the Cajun Boyle,
and a couple of other venues that are in town
asked me to do some work there, so I was
gonna do that a little bit, then come back uh
to Crossroads because I'm my album is gonna be in
volume So this first volume is is destined for Greatness

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Volume one. Then the second one I'm gonna put out
towards March, so close to the end of February. So
once i got that all taken care of, then I'm
gonna put together an event.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
It's not going to be a showcase. It's gonna be
any event.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
I mean like, it's gonna be a real show unlike
anything we've done before. There and I'll pull up and
we'll do something real special across.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Ut question what you got played for twenty twenty five,
Like what are your playing for the rest of it?
For the New Year?

Speaker 3 (53:02):
For the New Year promote Heavy. There's a couple of
tours that I want to get on, so I'm gonna
be I'm gonna bounce around. I'm gonna try to get
uh some things going in a few other states, and
then I want to bring it all back home to
torrenting and I'm gonna do something really big here. And
my ultimate goal is to get Lost Forever Entertainment off

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the ground, which is the entertainment company that we're starting
and rest and priests my brother Lost. We're gonna get
that going as on debt records, and there's a lot
of great local artists in town. And once we get
once we get this situated, you know, we'd love to
work with everybody.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
We're gonna be looking for talent.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
We're gonna be trying to put together shows, We're gonna
be putting together events, and you know right now that's
the next goal, is to get this company off the ground.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Helly you help you.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
I hope you're able to do that.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Man, that's huge.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
We're about to wrap up soon, but not yet this
podcast to do Top five, So actually top five and
a couple of things. So we leave the hip hop
flast Top five ago. It's not simple. Let's go movies.
We'd like to do just twitched up. We've done this
before previous episodes, but I want to bring it up

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with everybody that comes on to the show and be
all right, what's your top five movies?

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Alright, alright, like this, like this.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
It puts you on the spot. Ready for it. I
didn't give you no heads up this was happening, but
it puts you on the spot. See see what happens.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Alright, So I'm gonna go with Reservoir Dogs.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
There is no input in any order, right, I'm gonna
go Reservoir Dogs.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Artificial Intelligence. Really yeah, I like that movie a lot.
For certain time.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I haven't seen this song.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Oh man, don't laugh at me.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Goonies is the reason behind that, you know, Goonies Never Die,
American Gangster four and I'm going to end off with below.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Really yeah, blow, I'm.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
A part of your top five.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
No scarface scarfaces in my top ten.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Good Fellas.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Good Fellas is in my top ten as well. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Now, now, now the reason, the reason for those particular movies, Goonies,
all of them are all sentimental reasons why these are
in my top five. You know, the Goonies was something
I grew up on, and the other movies were movies
that I saw for the first time my dad. When

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my dad was in jail, we went on conjugal visits.
For those those of you who don't know what that is,
you stayed on a cabin together and you live like
as a family for a couple of days. So we
got to do a lot of bonding over those movies.
So those is why those are at my top five.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Sense Now that makes sense. All right, there's a couple
of left off for sure, but everybody has their own person.
Top five is the same. Yeah, all right, let's go
with R and B artists.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Oh live, male or female, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Matter, whatever you want, it doesn't matter, all right.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Damn man, he had to funk it all up. Man.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
I can't even say his name. Man, but I me
just I'm not gonna say his name. But he has
so much music that you know, you can't leave him all.
I don't want to see.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
It's funny. He's my number one RB artists of all time.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Yeah, but I mean his.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
For girls, like I don't listen to his music.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Like the music, and it's not the same, it's not
the same, totally different, totally different.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Love.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I'll say it, Yeah, you love, you can love music.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
In fact, I hate the person. Yeah, you know, I
think he's a shitty person. Yeah yeah, that just fucked up.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah, and you know, and it's fucked up you know,
because like before every before he went to jail and
all that stuff. When that ship first came out, I
saw the tape. Everyone was just in the now because
his music was so good. You know, I hate the
society that we live in that we're judged off of
whether a court system finds you guilty or not, because
there are a lot of innocent people that went to

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jail and people will look at you fucked up and
you'll be an innocent person.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
But we saw the video and we know he was.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
It was but you know, but his music was so influential,
like from his writing for writing for other artists, and
his music was played in churches, you know, and graduations,
love making.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
A lot of babies are running around here that was
made to his music.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Like he's like, so you can't deny him. You got
to give him his flowers. Musically as a person, Yeah,
that's a different story.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
He terrible person, yeah, good business man, good music maker.
That's it separate.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Yeah, And you know, and like I said, I'm a
conspiracy theorist. So you know, they all knew this ship
been going on for a long time. It was just
they was like, you know, what he got too big
for his bridges. He sucked up somewhere, so it's time
to out him. Because all those people that you don't
see on TV behind the curtains, all those rich people,
they all into that ship. They put them onto it.
They introduced them into those type of parties. Yeah, they

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put everybody onto the whole before we because that's the
whole episode.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Yeah, I'm down for that. Called me for that, called
me for that crazy. Yeah, this was come on, you
know you want to buy NBC now they put out
there remember this?

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Yeah, yeah, you get way too much now now you
get too big for your bridges.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Budd You're getting too big and you ain't doing all that.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
So who you got? You just said, you just said
our color. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, we'll say the R.
We'll say the say that.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Big. Sam Cook guy, I love Sam Cook.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
That's different.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Yeah, I love Sam Cook. He's got one of those
voices that hits you. Al Green's three more modern, A
big fan of Usher, Usher, Usher, you know he's got Yeah,
he's got shipload of.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
Music that Yeah, you can't deny him that. Uh.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
And I'm going with Babyface And as far as females go,
Whitney Houston, Uh, Mary J. Blige, Mariah Carey. Those are
my top three right there, like the timeless music. Yeah,
Aretha Franklin would be is up there with me. And

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it's one more.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
Shoot.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
It's hard to pick this one because it's the last one.
H Man Well voice is amazing and it's I don't
even know if you can consider this R and B.
But it's like the birth of R and B to me.
But Billy Holland, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I can hear that. I can hear that. I would
say top almost.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
I almost I forgot about I forgot about her. Yeah,
what are you?

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I forgot about? I got from Erica Dues up there
with me too, but yeah, but for.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Me the week, Yeah, lets do all day.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
I'll throw your favorite top five pop.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Pop Michael Jackson. Yeah you can't. You can't deny Justin Timberlake.
Yeah you can't. I got I gotta, I gotta throw.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Justin and there you have to. You have to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Yeah, he's the did.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Yeah, his solo career was I'm might have to blend
this one with females.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
Uh Pink. I'm a big Pink fan, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
I'm glad you said that because Pink's first album. No,
it was more hip hop. It was pretty hip hop.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Yeah, more hip hop in R and B.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
It was a mix.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Yeah, it was so good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
I love Rihanna. I love Rihanna. Always been a big
fan of Rihanna.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Yeah, I got to meet her one day, you know. Yeah,
I just want to meet her one day and just
tell her how much her music did for me. Yeah.
So where I was at, uh uh, just justin Michael Pink,
Rihanna pop artists through me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
That that off man.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
That honestly, that's awesome because somebody be like, oh, yeah,
you know, Chris Brown is way.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Board to yeah, way born. Just pink al is amazing.
She's fucking dope.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
She went to three different genres. She was like, yeah,
four different genres that do good at all fours.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
This is a little This is a little different for me,
but for different reasons. I'm gonna say, lady, gut.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Guy, that's not bad bad for the RB one. I
thought you're gonna mention acause.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
I considered him more a little hip hoppers, but I
didn't really yeah, because he was like a single, long guy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
He didn't really hit you know, he was like the
hook the hook guy. Yeah, yeah, he's the hook guy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Do you think he's better than hook?

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Okay, I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Have to ask that question because the dogs the King
close second, bro, yeah, close second and third.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
Yeah, I give Akon over T Pain. Got more.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
I think T Pain is really good as well. But yeah,
you ain't beating a dog man, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
All right, one more before we get to the hip
hop one. Okay, I'll tell you a curveball to five
favorite cereals. Ohal, just bad random, that's how we always
do it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Just what you like, Okay, Rusted flakes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
I just had someone that before I left out the house.
Fruity pebbles. Yeah, I like that since I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Don't behaved.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Honey nut cheerios. I love them. Cheerios.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Yeah you know your heart?

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Yeah yeah, then we're gonna switch it up. I'm gonna
hit him with some cinnamon toast crunch and cookie crisp,
Cookie crisp.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
It's not bad. You know what I always get flat
for because in my top five and it ranges, I
got Captain Crunch. Obviously it's one of them. Corn pops,
corn pops, corn pops, like my number one almost got
you got you Apple Jacks and Wow Raisin.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Brand See I didn't you had me throwing to the raad.
I was like, all right, when you hit raisin, I'm like,
come on, man, I like Raisins, but not my cereal,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
I mean, it's so I don't know what it is
about it. It's so damn good extra Raisins. For me.
It's extra Raisins corn poss number one. I always getting
like you like corn pas?

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
What the hell? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
What do you guys like? You guys laughing at the background.
What you guys like you can talk? It's all good.
Tops A good one. A lot of people have different
depends about that Tip.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Five wrestlers ship, uh, the Heartbreak Kids, Shawn Michael's uh
robbing damn uh a j Styles, Breadtha hit.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Man heart and these too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
For me, I'm gonna go with the macho man Randy Savage.
Really yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I respect that top five because it's none of the
usual top five.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Yeah. Yeah, that's like I'm like high fire, yeah, high flying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Off the top road a little a little more high impact,
Like if you watch uh a Brett Hart match, it's
more believable than if you watch Hulk Hogan match.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
So, yeah, I was gonna say there, Yeah, I did
really like the A P A like them. I like
the guys and the Dudley Boys.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
You know, those are all good, but those are all good choices,
those choices.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
But I appreciate your because again, it's not the same
as everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Else and all the all of the people you mentioned.
I am fans of them as well, but I like
when I was training to wrestle, my the way I
was trained is uh, it's quote strong style, which means
I make full contact every time I touch you. So
if you don't want to get hit hard, don't hit

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me hard, or don't get in the ring with me.
You know, but I hit hard when I wrestled, So
if I'm standing right here, you're not going to be
able to tell me that I didn't just hit this person.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
You know, you like that was fake?

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
No, people, I've had people literally come to my shows
and say the whole show is fake until you got
in the ring.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Yeah, but but it's because I studied those the wrestlers
that I was talking about, and it helped me adapt
to the strong style.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Did you ever get hurt wrestling?

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Lots of times.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
What's the worst injury you've forgotten?

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Besides the permanent scars I always gotta look at. I
had a really bad neck and back injury.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Really yeah that like jump off topp or someone did
a move.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Well, uh, it was over time. You know, my back
would lock up on me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
I go to bend to pick something up and I'll
be stuck in that position, and yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I don't wrestle. That happened to me, like you know
last year hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
The scariest to me are the neck injuries I had
because you always got to worry about being paralyzed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Sure, yeah that's scary, man, Just that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
And being so small being in there with big dudes.
It was really easy for them to throw me. And
I made everyone look really good. So I'd like to
land on my neck a lot of times for the
effect like oh.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Ship like that hurts. So I would get a.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Lot of neck injuries, and those are scary.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
You put your life on life for making other people
look good. Yeah, dedication right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
But that but that that was a dream I had
since I was a kid, which is also something that
you know, I got introduced to by my father.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
That's a tough sport man, that's constant, constant moving, picking
people up, and you gotta be you got to be
in shape for that type.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Of what I'm not like I used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Now, all right, Before we get to the hip hop
artist Top five Top five hip hop tracks of all time?
Oh Ship, ye the way today? All right, but I
want your personal like if you put it out of
the car right now, yeah, play at least three times. Okay,
those tracks?

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
Oh man, that's fuck man, Yeah, you know what, all right,
I got you off?

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Oh Ship, so fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
I love this spot.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
That one is tough, bro, all right, all right, personal
preser all right?

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
So uh nas undying love that's what yep, that's what
I am. There's a song by jay Z cold you
Must Have Loved Me. That's what Kelly Price on the chorus,
and it's just a very powerful song.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Stand by Eminem.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Yep stare yeah yeah yeah. But there is actually another
Eminem song that I like more than that one. But
that was just the first one that just came to
my head. Ambitions of a hustle about fifty I'll bean
hustler's ambitions my songs, Ambittions of a Hustle, so I switched,
so I'm The song I made was a playoff that,

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so he has Hushle's ambition.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
So that fifty is so good. Yeah, that's one of
my favorites.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
And like I said, he has other songs that I
that do hit me more than that, but that is
up there and.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
Oh man, it's got Man. We're at now three? What
did I get?

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
I'm at four? All right, so damn tupac. If I
die tonight, that's fine, right, Yeah, if.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
You're thinking they're popping out, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
It's all right, it's because because I'll keep going. I
got a lot of these things, be like a top
ten type of things. And I know I'm missing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
I don't know I'm missing something, but this is yeah,
I know I'm missing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
So what are my recent favorites? That is probably my
top five? People say I'm crazy. A couple of friends
join Lucas.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
That song, yes, so every kind of up amazing. That
song is amazing, video health it even more even more.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
That could be topping anybody's list. That song itself. If
you hear that song power, he did you thank me later?
Thank me later? I guarantee you don't thank.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Me later.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Devil's work.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Yes, honorable mentioned a mortal technique Dance with the excuse.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Me, that's one of the darkest.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
That's very dark.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
But like like I said, I'm always a fan of
the writing, which is why I picked Stan because it's
the creative the creativity that the artists use into it
sometimes like him sitting there writing three different ways to
contact his favorite artists and him resparting to it, and
the story told is amazing because it's creative. And the
same thing with Dance with the Dance with the Devil, like,

(01:10:50):
come on telling.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
The story that the whole time, the whole story was crazy. Yes,
well at the end he was like I was there
with him and I ripped his mob to Yeah what.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Crazy. It's like, damn, bro, I wouldn't write nothing like
that because it's so dark. People like, I know you
write your real life, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
You did that, man, That's why I can't even make
no fictional stories, you know, because I pride myself and
say in my life, man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
It's because you want to be creative and do something
like that. But then because you're used to, you know,
writing your life, you're gonna ask you that question. No, No,
that's fake bro, but you don't write about your life
be creative man. So it's like a it's a fine
line between the two.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
But yeah, that song here, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
I first heard it literally, Like the memes are like
the Mets popping out for that recently was like was
dropped all right. Top five hip hop artists of all time?

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Okay, top five hip hop for you? You can do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
You can do a mainstream list, okay, you know what
people want to hear, or you could do yourself list.
You know what you hear? What's who's your five?

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
Who's your I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say rock Him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Yeah, it's like a time between rock Him and Big
Daddy k just because of their style of music influenced
the same similar style that I that I that I do,
so big Daddy can't. Rock Him is up there, like
on the same platform for me, nas Uh Jada kiss

(01:12:24):
is up there is in my top five.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
I love top five crazy, I love this guy h
D m XI.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
Yeah. And it's the same thing with Tupac and Biggie.
They're both.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
In the same interchangeable Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Yeah, the same thing with Big Daddy Kane and and
Rock Him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
It's interchangeable depends on how your mood that day, how
you feel. Like mine's always the top three is always
the same. It's four and five for me that always
change the top three. Everybody knows. I've said this on
the podcast before. Yeah, it's itself. Four or five are
big punk.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Rast and you can't go wrong with any of those.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
I probably put Big in there a lot more the
people do because Dude was amazing. Yeah, sometimes I put
in there. I love it's really good. There's so many,
it's too many.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
It's it's like, like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
So uh to make a list of top fifty.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
It's hard.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
So another reason, like with Jadak, like I'm a fan
of like people's styles of writing, Like like I said,
Eminem could be in my top five two book because
of the style of writing. But with Jada kiss Is,
what he does is a lot of his verses he'll
keep the same Ryan pattern through the entire verse, and
that is really difficult to do, you know what I mean.
It's it's it's not saying it's easy, but it's a

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lot easier to switch up with bars every two bars,
every four bars. He'll keep a whole verse that same pattern,
which is something like I tried to do with the
god Mode track. There's a part where I just wrapped
one pattern for a long time because I'm challenging myself
as far as writing and keep that same thing going.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
And I appreciate like that type of writing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Again where with Greatness A hefty podcast, I beat you You
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Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
TikTok, just got TikTok Okay, yeah, and I got Snapchat
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
I was on TikTok joint TikTok last year. I thought
I was like, ew, my business.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
I'm just I just had people.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Keep telling me join it, just to join it, and
I'm like, all right, because it's another place to promote.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
So yeah, for sure, it's another way to make money,
get some views. You never know what's going to happen,
you know. Oh yeah, So you guys out there listening
to Greatness out there Spotify you can find your music
as well. Yes, get everything out there. When you drop
the music, it's gonna drop on Spotify as well.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
It's going to drop all streaming platform.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
On twelve thirty one or one one.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
I'm gonna drop it at midnight.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Mayday one one drops, so I'll be streaming that here.
I'll probably be here in the basement chilling, blasting some music.
So I'm listening to it. I'm gonna check it out.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
Thank you for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
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Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
I love to be great time. Thank you for everything.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
I appreciate it.

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