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December 15, 2024 • 104 mins
Enjoy the latest episode/interview with artist D. Dermz. We talk about many things Hip-Hop, including his relationship with Canibus, and projects he has coming in the new year with features from Inspectah Deck, Papoose amongst the many. Like, Share and suscribe. Much Appreciated

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
We're back Hefty podcast with my guests the Durams. We
have some technical difficulties just a little while ago. We're
good now, we're all straight about to get back into
the info he just left off on with the sessions
you had with Inspected Deck. You guys created a whole
track together. It was just one track? Was it two?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
What did you guys do?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
All right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
So well technically one track, but man, you know, he
gave me like accounted.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
He gave me like.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Damn the like bro like something like sixty bars.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
My god, that's at least right.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Sometimes it's hard to interpret bars in two minutes, but
that's at least three or four minutes right of just
straight going.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, did you hear? Did you hear the track?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I dropped it on my birthday over the summer?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I did. I gotta download it. I here the whole thing.
I do have, man, I do have it. Man, that's true.
Gotta show love, man, Yeah, count the bars. Count the bus.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's at least over like, it's at least over forty eight. Okay,
might have hit me off for like fifty six bars,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
So what I do when I hear somebody the hell
he had, you know, this many bars. I compare it to.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Cannabisus verse on the Lost Boys track with A Plus
and Redman. Yeah, he goes where he goes last. I
think it's Beat from the East. Yeah, and that I
mean his verse is about two and a half three
minutes long. So somebody says, oh, you know, he's been
one hundred bars. I was like, all right, that's about
six seven minutes, just roughly. I based it off that

(01:56):
just because I know that was fifty bars and I
know it took about three minutes for him to spit it.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Right, That's how I base everything off.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I just compare it because that's it's like something my
brain is like, all right, that was this. You know,
I hear sixty five somebody I dropped seventy five.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
But what I mean, I you know, growing up listening
to rap and hip hop, I never even like counted
balls until like Cannabis put that thought in my head,
like you know, like, but we'll get back into this.

(02:34):
But just staying on topic with the Rebel, So we did.
We did one song, but yeah, it was like fifty
six bars, so I was gonna chop it up in
two songs, Okay, but I just, I just I'm just
gonna put it out as one.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm big fucking you know this monster track rock.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, the sop and philosophies and hot pot the seas
can't define out why we dropped. Yeah, man, so.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
That when I was nineteen and so.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, after he did that song, you know, instead of uh,
you know, kicking me out the room, you know, we
got to kick it, you know, smoke a blond ason KFC,
and he went into the studio recorded another song. I
don't know if you know the song called DreamCatcher.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Got I probably heard it EF I heard it. Yeah,
it's it's I don't think he ever put it out
on Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
It came out in two thousand and nine, and in
two thousand and nine, Rebel dropped the Manifesto album. DreamCatcher
might have been on that album.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I don't think so. But I got to.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
He was like, you want to hang around? You know,
I'm gonna go, uh you know, lay out, lay down
some ship I've been working on, and uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Hell yeah, eighteen year old me.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
You know, that's how I envisioned when people get together
on tracks like you know.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
When now he's an ez on Ellmatic or.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Anybody when the artists get together, I'd like to envision
I envisioned that going to studio together, chilling, hanging out,
recording the verse. I know that's not true. I mean
part of me is like, I hope that's true. I
want that to be the thing, because you just picture
in your head, all right, they just chilling, they n't
averse to and they go in and record it. Like

(04:33):
if that was true, that'd be awesome. But I know
it's not the case. Some people did record from somewhere else,
they send it to you.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
There's all this stuff. Yeah, so hear the story. You
guys actually was in the studio chilling and.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, yeah, we were in the studio chilling, and uh
yeah he recorded that versus dreamcatch. It was so surreal
because you know, like it was his song on his
next album. And I'm sitting there listen and he's in
the studio and I'm just like watching, like you know,
like absorbing, Like here I am this eighteen year old kid. Man.

(05:08):
I've been listening to thirty six Chambers, you know since
i was five years old.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
You know, my older brother, you know, like through on, so.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
You know, seeing him in the studio he was.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
He was saying these rhymes.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
It was like it almost felt like he was talking
to me personally. Yeah, because he you know, he's now
I'm gonna spit the verse.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
It was.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I sat and kicked it with the homie, try to
ask him his thoughts. He was contemplating clapping the boss.
He tried laughing it off. Shorty pregnant and she having
a boy about the mask up, pathers and toys And.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Now that night, did you just do that track or
were you able to record other stuff that you wanted
to do?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
That was they did? They did that?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yo, I just uh I left, you know, I was,
I was. I was there for like six hours. I
was there for six hours.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
There.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
It was Richmond v at Remedy Rossu Studio and Jojo
Pelagrino Studio at the time. But apparently they got some I.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I forget about it, you know, but uh, at the time,
they was running the studio and I chopped it up
with that there for a few hours, and uh yeah,
great fucking.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Moment, great epic legendary man.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, I learned.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I learned so much, you know, you learned so much
sitting watching and observing. You know, that's the god. You know,
that's one of the you know, the you know eight
original you know the nine originals who sang members?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
And uh, what what got through to rapping?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Like? What age did you were? Like?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
You know what, I think I could wrap you know,
I'm just trying to shut out. You know.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
That's a great question. So well it's two different, two
different answers. What age I started listening to rap?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Five? Five? Was?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I was five years old? Five years old?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Remember the first time to listen.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
To yeah, five years old?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
For Yeah, the first song I heard was a House
of Paine jump around, Yeah, and I knew what my
brother used to play it, you know, House of Pain,
Beastie Boys and uh, you know in the Missus dou
Fire movie that got Robin Williams, you know, dancing to

(07:49):
the you know he dances to that jump around, you know,
fucking Fox his whole house up and ship and Yo
More and the What's Up Your Home Early girlfriend?

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Right?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
So like yo, like that that was my first experience
really to like hip hop, you know, was you know,
like hearing that song in a movie and yeah, I
was like four four when that came out. Uh, and

(08:27):
my my older brother. You know, he was a big
he was big on Beastie Boys and Wu Tang Clan
and so I was listening to you know, I would
you know, go into his room and listen to House
of Payne, Beastie Boys, Wu Tang Clan. He used to
have all Wu Tang Clan posters, a lot of cool

(08:50):
posters on his room. And that was that was my
early you know, That's how I was exposed to hip hop.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
What did when did you first start ryming?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Like what did your first so I give it a shot,
Like did you write or it was just like off
the top of the head.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
So I was inspired to write when I heard Kid
Rock because Kid Rock came out in ninety seven and
he had just crossed over, you know, he you know
this crossover singles Cowboy and because he started out as
a hip hop artist Body Richie. You know that was

(09:28):
another album that inspired me too when I was like
ten years old. You know, Grit Sandwiches for breakfast.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I never heard that. Yeah, yeah, it's dope.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah he was he at the flat Top and you know,
like you know, people call him a culture bullship. Kid
Rock was fucking repping hip hop.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Like, you know, early on, I don't really really really
rapping it.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, he was down with what was it, Pete Nice? Yeah, no, yeah,
Pete Nice and so yeah, influences.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Like so just that's the way you go to write
it with rock.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
So I started writing yeah, yeah, when I heard that
Devil with that of Close album, I was like seven
years old. So at seven years old, I broke my
first Yeah, and uh, you know I could still remember
it and everything, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
How does that sound like at seven years old? What
do you remember that rhyme? You said, how does that
sound like?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Right now? It?

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Well, I wrote down kid Rocks lyrics to loosely paid
for first, and then I studied it and I analyzed it,
and you know, I got my own sheet next to it,
and I just like kind of followed the format. You know,
I was seven years old, I was, you know, I

(11:00):
was you know, I was, you know, mastering the art
of imitation and you know, mimicking and that's how I
hold my skill. You know, I believe imitation, you know.
So I just I just tried to copy, you know,
I could just figure out their format and you could try, Yeah,

(11:25):
my flowing formats similar.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
And then Slim Shady came out nineteen ninety eight and
Hi my name is You.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Know you like that when he first came out, Yeah,
I love that money.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
When he first came out, he was yeah, yeah, I
grew up in New York City, he was. It was
all over the radio. It was the only white, only
white rapper on the ninety two point three K Rock.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
It was fuck a rock station.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
They were playing playing eminem like, Yeah my Name is
was huge. Yeah, New York City, it just hit different.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
You mentioned you used to be on Cannabis Central dot com,
So I want to get into some of that stuff
because you were battling people on there. You mentioned a
few of your posts that you would battle a couple
of guys on there. I don't know if you actually
battled j Cole when he used to be on there,
but there was a bunch of guys on there that

(12:29):
you know, you Jacole, you got passionate MC used to
be on there.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I visited the site, but I was never I mean,
what was that O two one O two something like that,
and yeah, I never got into this all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I was just go there for the new music.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, yeah, I got to Yeah, cannabis Central dot Com.
I was on there at the same time as j
Cole and uh I didn't battle.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Jacole, but.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, but he did, Uh he did, he did, you know,
post it at the same time I posted that I would.
I would vote on his battles, and you know we uh.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
You guys know of each other and ship.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, you know, I don't know if you knew me,
were you know probably you know, yeah, no, it was
really tight knit community. But he uh yeah, I would
upload his tracks and ship and uh you know, it
was it was crazy. We don't know he was going
to blow up someday, and uh, you know, I would
do my own you know, we would go on that

(13:43):
site and cannabis Central dot com form upload audio dishes and.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Uh no, just just off the fly, like you don't person.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Like, Yeah, one time cannabis Cannabis showed up the fly
and uh started, uh you know, just directing rhymes, directing
rhymes at us, and every the whole the whole fucking
site started, uh you know, to take jabs and really yeah,

(14:21):
I was the only one he responded to, and you know,
we went back and forth a little bit. I was
like fifteen years old, two thousand and five.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
This was this was a video, right, it just strictly
AUDI uploaded and yeah, and put it up there.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
The text battles, oh.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Text battles, So just typing it out.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Just typing it out on you know, and then on
his fan form.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Simpler times, simpler time, Yeah, simpler time. So did that
lead to you first?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
That was my first interaction with with uh, with cannabis
at fifteen years old. I had a text battle of them.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
He was I mean you can say, you can say that,
Hell yeah, why not?

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I mean, you know, I wanted in the sense that
I was the only one he responded to.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's a win.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Win is a win.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I see you.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
He definitely spin some humbling bars. It was cool, you know,
I remember them to this day. You know, that's awesome.
But you know, and then he opened up a website
and UH two ten spitboys.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I do remember that.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, he had m seas on there and it was
it was it.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Was going well. And that that's when.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
He got a lot of rippers together and we collaborated
all around the world. You know what's was getting together.
This one dude Fitousie from the u K.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
London.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, put together mixtape of all these world nation widen
sees that we're on spitballs dot Com and Cannabis was
you know down the host you know the album. So
I'll send that to you know, if anyone's interested.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
You know, I want to hear that. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
The intro that Cannabis does is though, he shouts out
everybody on the intro and you know, just a real
stand up dude. And uh, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
So the guys where he was getting like a lot
of remixes on with a lot of those those guys,
a lot of the type of guys. Nah, so that
I know, some Passionate was on a couple of remixes. Yeah,
Mark DS was on a couple Yeah yeah, yeah, this

(17:01):
guy from Australia, I forget his name, well shake no,
Marty McKay no, that might be I don't be kid. No, No,
the other guy Demon that's the name Dombo yeah oh
Donald yeah yeah, yeah, okay, I'm thinking about the same era.

(17:22):
So yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, so that's when I reached out to Cannabis and
then my you know, just you know, capt building with him.
I was I was going to college at the time
I was twenty and you know, i'd be eating I
hop you know, I got class and how well I'm
trying to you know, get some I hoppen. I got
an email from Cannabis.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Like, Yo, I like that song you just upload Yo.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I like yo, dumb, I like that song you just
uploaded styles correct me stop wife and yeah, man, twenty
years old.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
You know, like that's the ultimate that's the ultimate complimentbery there.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, man, especially when he's just eating pancakes and shiit
fucking you know.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Like you can eat all you can eat pancakes.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Get sitting. There's just some fucking yeah, And you know
it's weird.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's like, how long after that before you guys actually
met like in person and stuff started hanging out and stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Well, we had a couple more interactions, you know, like
then he had a it was like two years after that,
but then we he had a he had a website.
So I'm just going through the history of you know,
our relationship. He uh, he had a website Canadas catalog

(18:44):
dot com and that's when he was selling his Liverpool
Law album.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
In twenty twenty, twenty eleven, yep.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
And that's where I got my lot, the site was opened,
me and a couple other rivers. Uh you know, we
was we was picked to uh the data test to site.
You know, I was, I was. I was fortunate enough
to uh you know, to be able to be a
test to site and uh, you know, we hopped on

(19:15):
zoom calls, you know, and we just worked on the site.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
So it was.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
It was me cannabis for Dowsy Sham fifty one and
uh this uh, this European guy named Liam Franklin who
was quota the quota of the fucking you know, the operation.
But but yeah, so little by little, you know, you know,
I went from a text battle and them to uh

(19:45):
you know, collabing with him to his website on spitballs
dot com.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Uh a year later, now I'm beta tests on his
website and we're doing zoom calls. And it was cool,
you know, you know, the zoom call was cool.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
He popped the bottle of champagne. That's awesome for you,
Chase terms, you know, chiz Dowsy shan and uh a
little blunt and then I took us around his uh
took us around his home studio and showed us his
uh his plaque.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
For which one is for?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Can I Bush?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Okay? The first album?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah? Well what black was that? Was that? You only? Yes,
the only plaque he got. I know, it sucks that
it sucks.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Definitely should get more, but that's another story. So you're
from originally from New York, just Stan Eilan, right, like
that's where you were born and raised with Stan Island.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I'm not done though, but so so yeah, he showed
us his plaque and you know, his microphone and all
that ship and then you wanted to know when I
actually met him, right, Yeah, so I was getting into
that so s yeah, I throw all that you know,
build up of you know, online correspondence, fucking locking horns

(21:17):
and battling online and fucking I met him at the
disaster battle in Los Angeles. I was, I was, I
was fucking in the crowd. I had to go take
a piss. I went to the bedroom cannabis staying, Uh,

(21:39):
I mean he's blocking the bathroom door. It's like, I
can't go in there. What do you mean I can't
go in there?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Public?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, I can't go in there. La all right, fucking
take a piss right on your thing. The fuck out
of my way, and.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I'm like, what do you mean, what do you mean?
I can't stuff?

Speaker 3 (22:00):
You know, just you know, look, I'm like, oh, it's
cannabis right next to him, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
And I was speechless.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
I was like, oh, Ship, you know, and uh, yeah,
you know, I just met him, chopped it up. It
was it was cool. It was cool, you know, it
was cool. Watched the battle. I could have you know,
I could have been right there, shoulder to shoulder. But
as soon as I seen him, Edison, I noticed the

(22:31):
stitches in it, said, I noticed the sling in the arm.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I noticed, you know what I mean. He wasn't right, man,
He wasn't right that night. I was. I was watching Painkillers.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
He was, he was on he was on painkillers. Come on, guys,
stitches in his head, fucking shoulder like, yeah, you know,
I was.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I was. I don't know what to think. I was
fucking scared. Edison. I was like, oh, Ship, that's what
happened to you? Who? Like so just by looks you
could tell he wasn't ready for hours.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, nah, man, I knew. I knew it wasn't gonna
be a fair battle. I knew it wasn't gonna be
you know, some ship. So yeah, yeah, and then after
the battle.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
During the battle, I.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Was sitting next to Daylight and percyp.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I think he won the first two rounds. He won
the first rounds. I think he lost it to the
third and it's one of the first two rounds to
be for what it looked like he had the crowd involved.
There was reciting something. Then the classic ship.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
You know, he had the most loudest moments, the most
lost moments.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
And then.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
He pull out the dope pad And I didn't really
know what to think of it.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
When I'm watching it live as a fan, It's like
this is a little wild watching.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, I was watching the live right and fucking in
front of me, Bro, I don't know what to think.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
You like, Bro, it was like it was chaos. It
was like, you know, the scene of the Titanic.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I was like, what the hell is going on?

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Fucking people are just like it's a total pandemonium.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Random dude.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
They start smashing bottles, Daylight start smashing fucking bottles on
the floor.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Just because.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Its fucking wild. An hour, Yeah, it's fucking passed. The
whole you know, the whole venue was fucking I thought
this was, you know, dangerous. So you know, I mean
classic pack, classic classic pack. He was you know, he

(24:46):
was there. I was, I ran right up on stage.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yo. I had a feeling, you know, yeah, I wasn't
gonna you know.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
To me when I originally when I originally thought, I
was like, it's Cannabis.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
He's up here. Disaster is a battle rapper. He's good
and he's great.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
He's not on that same level, so I felt like
he doesn't have to win the battle approval point. I
felt like he was doing it just for and yeah,
I don't know what was going on before. It was
just you know, a fan watching live. I was like,
he's doing this just for the clicks, just for you know,
back then, it was all about how many clicks can

(25:24):
you get onto you your trending and ship this is
what two thousand nine, ten, eleven, twenty twelve, twelve twelve. Yeah,
it was just if you were trending this, how you
was getting money. So he was doing it for the
That's what I thought I thought at first.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Cannabis guy got like he got a one hundred grand
for that battle. Okay, that's not bad at all. That's
fucking great.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Paige.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
That's a great that's why he did. That's why he
did the battle. That's why our game, that's why. Uh
what's that dude's name, fucking organic. Yeah, that's why he's.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Fisted, you know, because this guy just got a hunt.
I think he had to give some back, but he
uh he.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Uh, he kicked off at like seventy five seventy five
racks while.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
He pays some back. He did the third round. It
was the note book, but it was still the third
He still did it.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, no, some you know legal ship, you know, Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I guess I don't. I don't know if this is
behind it. It's a lot of behind the scenes stuff, but.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, yeah, then we all went out to you know,
fucking Santa Monica afterwards, me and made the cannabis NBC Supernatural, UFC,
m M A World Champion fight at Doe We Cooper
Black Cobra, Yeah, DJ Carma Infinite and uh yeah and

(27:01):
maybe MC Supernatural. That was dope, you know, having dinner
with him, how was.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
How was that vibe to dinner? Yo? After that that
just happened, like what the everybody quiet? Everybody's chilling man?

Speaker 2 (27:17):
It was chill man. It was. It's like it was like,
funck that man. Yeah, this is a little classic. Back
was already at the man.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
He was already fucking at back at Italian Hollywood. He
wanted to chill, man like fuck that battle that know,
fuck you know what did it? It proved it didn't
even if you want, like you said twenty minutes ago,
you know, cannabis fucking you know, beat him, you know,

(27:49):
in the first fucking you.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Know, easily, I think first of us easily beat him
a battle wrap. Crowd reaction is a huge plus. He
had that already the first two rounds, is it.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
He had the He had the loudest crowd reaction of
the night, for sure. That's a that's a fact for sure.
So yeah, le's keep it moving, keep it moving there.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
You know, I'm.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Always you know down the you know, show of the
best fucking uh the next interaction, I met up with
him in Virginia at uh Virginia Beach. He was doing
a show down there with with a cap of Donna
and uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I met up with

(28:40):
him that night and I got to meet you know,
some other rippers, you know, shout out to command the
Complex Pirate you know, the greatest poet, Leverett Infinity mixer,
possibly of all time.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
And yeah, you know, so.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
After the show, Cannabis and Mady, Me and Pirate, you know,
we all hopping and Madi's rental and made he was driving,
Cannabis was riding Shotty. I was sitting directly behind Cannabis
and uh, Pirates.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Right next to me.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
And we went to waffle house and ship, you know,
and you know there's a video somewhere, you know, this
uh this wanted to take a video for me, you know,
from my family, you know, just a shot. He wanted
to shout out my family. You know, it's a good
dude like that. You know, it's just like you know,

(29:41):
all shout out. Yeah, shout out to the Dermity clan.
We fed him in everything late night waffle house, chicken bush, eggs, cheese.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
But you know that's a good sucking impression. Yeah man.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah, I was twenty three years old and you know,
just soaking it.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
In and yeah, man, So that was the.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Last time we had dope conversations too, you know, talking
about Tesla Art satisin fucking you know, Angels, Devils, fucking
Samuel Samuel Jackson. We was talking movies, you know, fucking
you know, Cannabis is the graceful dude. Just to watch
him interact with his fans, you know, like awesome, yo,

(30:29):
so respectful to his fans. I was there taking you know,
I was like the photographer, you know, just taking you know,
snapshots of people and the interesting dude. Interesting dude. He
mimics the person that he's talking to, at least when
I saw him, he mimixed the energy and.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's just.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Unique individual for real. I ain't seen him in a minute,
but yeah, that's yeah. So I saw him in new hand,
I'm sure a couple of years ago, and.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
I haven't. I haven't gone to see him live yet
at a show, rarely up to.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
We still we still taw via email h here and there.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
That's it's a met to you. Have you got anything
new coming out? Like any music, if you're working on
something new, tell you a little background on you you
dropped in the albums. I trying to look for some
stuff and I couldn't really find anything.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, yeah, I'm working on some some some new stuff.
It's definitely gonna drop. Definitely gonna drop in uh January,
first quarter at twenty Currently my music was taken down
from all uh distribution companies. You know, they were under

(31:58):
several alias is like Little Grip, Danny Digital, de dermed,
so got confused and so my you know, just rebranded
under One Roof and uh yeah, they're going to be
back on back and all streaming platforms very very soon.
But I'm not in a rush to do that because

(32:19):
I want to you know, put more music out and
you know.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
All right, anybody who planning not working with in the
future for for those for that project, anybody in mind.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
So I'm just going to use the features that I
acquired as you know, as a young and growing up
that I never you know least I just been you know,
I just had them in a stash, you know, just
I got these. I got these uh you know, these
legendary features with King just you know, just loaded in

(32:53):
the chamber ready to go.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
You know, I got you.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Know, I got Cannabis, pat Poos, inspected deck, rass cast,
Craig g Georgia, Peligrino passing it and see classic pack
produced to be Benefit produced to be I got my
man Block McLeod from Ameo.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
The Pharaohs, Pharaohs. But yeah, that's there's a lot of Yeah,
Black McCloud.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Says, a lot of people, right, there's a lot that's good,
good ship. There's a lot of legends right there too.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm probably forgetting one or two. But yeah,
it's the side lineup. Something I've been working on, you know,
my whole life, and uh just you know, it's getting
time to put it out. You know, my you know,
my rhyme and ability is just bonkers these days. Like

(33:49):
I was always it's always nice, you know, but you
know I wasn't great. But one thing, you know, I
always have potential and I was always always able to
convey that. And you know I was more than decent.

(34:10):
You know, I was nice, but.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I gotta work on it. Practice it's perfect. And the
older you get, the more mature you get.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
That's what I love.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
What you want to sound like you just know everything,
what you want to do.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
You know what you want to do. You grow into
your character, you grow into you know the eerror. You
know I come from that boom bat bearr. So you know,
when I was like in my early you know, mid
mid late twenties, like I kind of wanted to fit
in with the youngsters and the young crowd and you

(34:47):
know that's what a little rip came from.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Try to state relevant.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
And you know, just you know, learn, just do me
and you know, do do what I do?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Do?

Speaker 2 (35:00):
You know? You find your lane? How you want to
go down that lane? Right right? Find my lane?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Do ye? Now?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
What's the I want to get into?

Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's a crazy experience you have and anything besides you
know that live battle like industry industry wise, like what's
the craziest ship you've been a part of? You've seen
it was like, wow, this is nuts.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
It's something you can actually speak on like a diddy
part of your son.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Well, I'm not I've never been in the industry, but
I've been around some industry.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Dude. That's what I've met. That's what I've met.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
And I don't really got no no stories like that.
You know, when I would ride around with cannabis, you know,
you know, we be uh, you know, we'd be ducking
agents and you know hip hop police. Yeah, so you

(36:12):
know the hip hop police. I guess you know that's
that's that's something. Yeah, that's probably the craziest weird this.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Experience.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
You know, what do what do you say that? What
do you mean hip hop police, like what.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Like agents, you know, like uh operatives, people you know
that come to really okay, yeah, people come to cannabis
shows just to you know, just to you know, see
who's in the crowd and you know, just you know,
just spot them out.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Oh well I thought that was just something that people saying,
like this actual real thing, like hip hop police.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
That's what I thought too, bro.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
I was twenty three years old, you know, fucking I'm
about top into the car, you know, with eighty cannabis
and pirate and you know, like there was these dudes
approaching us and just acting really weird, asking questions strange questions,
and yeah, yeah, yeah they it was Cannabis was saying

(37:19):
they were agents, and so yeah, that was that was
an experience I had, you know, as far as being
with an industry person who you know, whether or not
they were some type you know, I don't know who
the fuck they were, but cannabis is mine.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
They were agents, so yeah, they never know.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Oh for you would you go to rap? How did
you get your inspiration? Do you listen to other rappers
and the tras that or do you just like going
about day to day life. And that's what you're right about,
or past experiences or what do you draw your inspiration from.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
So yeah, I draw my informent, my inspiration from listening
to old school instrumentals and yeah, listening to a lot
of old school rappers, like you know, like Cannabis. Yeah,

(38:27):
really just cannabis, you know. I just I just listened
to this and that's it. No one else, not really.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
No, no, no, no China selling there it's okay, Reno.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Nah, I really don't you know. I might, I might,
you know, I might support you know, an album, but
I just I just listened. I just listened to Cannabis.
To be straight up, like, I really don't give a fuck,
but these other rap just gotta say right because it

(39:02):
don't appeal it don't appeal to me.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
You know that you're number one of all time number
your goat?

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah? We are? We are? Are? We live right now?

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
On YouTube and Facebook? YouTube?

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Facebook, we're live right now?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
How many how many views we got? I can't check
it right now. I have to go through my phone
to check that. Yeah, check that out. Let's see, uh,
let's see who's tuning in. So that's second number one

(39:37):
goat right there, it is done.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, bro, absolutely, I don't think anybody fucking with cannabis.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I don't think so either. But I do have other
favorites as well that I love. Yeah, me too, But.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
You know they just I just different patterestal, you know,
like when you asked me, you know, like when I write,
what inspires me? Like those not those dudes? You know
I put on you know, cannabis ship and.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Trusts pressure from his Do you do you prefer the
only stuff that he prefers newer stuff?

Speaker 2 (40:27):
I prefers newest stuff. Okay, what's what's your favorite album for?

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Like?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
How new, how far back? What the matter? Does matter?
Whichever one you like, what's the best one you think.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
In the past, like six years? I'd say my favorite
album is Kaiju?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Okay, I did like that one. I bought that one too,
Like What's the Closer to Affinity? Was pretty fire?

Speaker 2 (41:02):
That was amazing. One step Closer to Infinity was amazing,
really good.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Probably my all time favorite is like.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
An ice cream cone. He dropped three. I think he
dropped only three.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Right, twenty twenty two. I want to say he dropped
like ten. There were different things like there was.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
All twenty oh yeah, the Pete Pete Rock.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Rock, Yeah, I got I got that one over there too.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Whack ass and made he bullshit Pete Rock album. Yeah, man,
I know that ship was going to be a flop.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I don't know if you could call that album because
it was like.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I know why he those weren't even really Pete rock beats,
Like those were some ship, like fucking Pete rock fucking
shipp him out of his ass, and you know, sold
them and made it. Got one of the beats from
from one of my my my DJs, one of my
producers and friends. I'm not going to name them, but

(42:05):
ye oh really yeah, DJ Calm Infinite, that yo, DJ
Kalm Infinite sold M eighty a beat for the Pete
Rock not you know, whatever the fuck they want to
call it the yeah because it's always a different fucking
title by the time it comes out, right, so uh yeah, no,

(42:30):
And they got that beat from fucking djk I who
got that you know, Pete rock beat? You know, and
it's all you know, so it's legal, you know, you
know it transfer is it transfer his hands legally? But yeah,
that wasn't over real Pete rock project, man, And you
know it was like you know, I feel like a

(42:52):
sucker when I support that ship man. Dude, it was
using fucking remixes from twenty fifteen Time Flies Phoenix Phoenix, Like, yeah, dude,
he was That album was good too, like that. I'm
no hater man, like I would have defended the album,
especially you know, it's Cannabis' album, but it's not Cannabis

(43:14):
Is Fall. It's a May's Fall, So I'm on fucking yeah.
I don't blame Pete Rock. That album didn't especially Pete
Rock's vocals did not sound Yeah, did that sound good?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
It sounded off?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I did. I did appreciate what he was trying to
do for that year, trying to do a release a month.
It went good for the first few months. I mean
it was like four or five months before we actually
got like a collection, a collection album, the Albady Era,
this one We're Here I believe it was. And then

(43:51):
there was another album that the Pete Rock one came out.
There was a whole issue with it. So I appreciated
what it was trying to do because we did get
a lot of music that year from Cannabis and it
was it was fire. I don't know how all of
it or if any of it was all original, but
it seemed to me because I never heard this stuff before.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah, yeah, cannabis want to drop that music, you know,
with it without fucking.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
That made Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
But how long?

Speaker 1 (44:24):
That's how how long is between each because we usually
got away a few years for each, you know, best release.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
It's worth it, though, it's always it's always worth it,
always fucking.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Worth One album that that he dropped that I don't
see you get a Lot of Love is for whom
to be told that one was a good album. Yeah,
it's not. It's not on Spotify no more. I don't
know what the issue is behind that album, but I
have it up on my wall.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
But then my hip hop pole and I love that album.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
It was.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
It was good. Get enough Love, Paul. We had Infinity album?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Did that's the one that was on Yes, that's when
it started it off with all the mixes from that
because he was he layered it right, he layered it.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
So when people asked me do you like the old
canvas and the new camp? I like the new cannabis
because the old cannabis didn't have you know, infinite fucking bars.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, that's Fairy. You have to check it out.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
I had set that lined up. I forget what it was. Yeah,
I'll be back in the second. Dog My good. I
was gonna play one of your tracks. Man, I gotta
hear what you sent me.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
It's not bad. Let's do that real quick. It's a
d DAMS. I don't know if this is a new song,
but let's play. Let's rocket see what it's like.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Yea, all right, but.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yeah, the stream of Cannabis the Morning, I think it's cool.
Some people think it's cool. You know, if you're a
cannabis fan, you'll think it's cool.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Yeah, that's who my audience is, cannabis fans.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
So but uh, that's all. You created a new page
on Facebook man.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Yeah, yeah, not me and cannabis. We're gonna drop new music,
you know, besides the besides the tracks that I haven't
released with them, We're gonna come I was some new music, definitely, okay, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
So he is interested in coming out with some new stuff. Yeah,
he's gonna here.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Here's a yeah, there's a lot of ship he's gonna
come out with. Man ripped the jacket to Infinity, that's
coming out. I was announced. I was announced in twenty
Waiting for that forever.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, it was announced in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yep, and uh he's uh stuff licking ice cream corne
CD cover in Uh in the back, simple, simple flower,
it's good. Yeah, but in the back of the CD
CD cases said ripped the jacker.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Uh too, I got it? Yeah? Oh yeah, whatere the
fuck right here, y'all.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Our word? Okay, I know, I do. I remember seeing that.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
See that ripped the jacket come in twenty twenty four,
Rip the Jacket two infinity coming twenty twenty So it
made he fuck that up, y'all.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
He made some dumb posts. He made some dumb posts
like before Christmas, fucking ruining the whole fucking oh yeah,
it's gonna come. And then he took the post down like,
you know, like an asshole fucking five minutes later.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Are you are you close with I mean I had him,
I recently had him on an episode, not recently, okay.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, yeah, I'm close enough for you know, we could
fucking talk shit about each other and mean it, you know,
and still fucking you know, get it in y'all. But
but now he's been doing some snake ship lately. I
don't like how he's been moving, you know, disrespecting cannabis,

(49:06):
you know, and uh going at the Chino like selves. Daughter,
which daughter the oldest China China he talked, He talks.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
The most ship, but he always backs it up with
receipts and everything he does he does.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, I fucking wiped my ass for this receipt.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
And made these receipts. Yeah, fucking no, But what you
could tell that, yo?

Speaker 3 (49:38):
It doesn't matter receipts or not, Yo, it doesn't. His
best friend, his best friend died. His daughters in the morning.
He's gonna go on Instagram and call the vicious, savage, savage, nasty,
horrible names like that. You know, it's brutal. Brutal is
his reputation's room.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
His youngest daughter just came out with a post. Dude,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Let mean, yeah, I haven't seen it because I blocked
his ass, fucking man long ago.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Fucking So this came out from the the Chino excel
tribute Uh Instagram page. Okay, Yeah, it's his daughter's a statement.
It's about a three page long statement. You gotta read
through it. There's a lot of stuff in there and
none of it is fault. No, it's not. None of

(50:30):
it is fault in amity at all for none of it. Okay,
there were more pointing towards the other lady that's represented
the family. I forget the name.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah. Oh wow, see, I can't why it's a whole mixer.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
It's a hot show sic of see in that ship man,
And maybe he tried to tie cannabis into that, get
him involved and fucking oh he didn't turn into verses.
It's his fault tried to turn. He tried, you know
what I'm saying, when he tried to turn the whole
fucking cannabis fan base against I've been watching this cannabis yo.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
So I don't follow that ship no more. I don't
listen to Andy's bullship.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
I just I just wish that album could have came
to fruition because that was that was gonna be an
amazing album.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Man, Yo, fuck that album. I'm gonna I'm keeping aren't mean,
I don't mean fuck that album, bro, but Yo.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
That was gonna be firero that was gonna be Why
would it have been fired? Yo?

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Look?

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Would she? You know? This was Chino's last album, right,
he was rapped.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
He wrapped about killing himself. If that's what stuff no, no,
but yo, hit me out, hit me out, yo. If
that's what his subject matter was gonna be on his
collab album with cannabis. Yea, I'm glad it didn't come
to fruition because I didn't. I don't want no dark gas,
negative energy on you know, a collab album cannabis.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Right, Like I hear that right? Why would I want to?
You know, neither with cannabis.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Cannabis isn't gonna want to be on a collab album
where you're fucking plotting to kill yourself, you know, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Like, so I'm bad album didn't come out, man, But
what if it's what if the subject matter was it
that somatic?

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Y'll tell you the truth, y'all fucking like to go
back to your answer, like you know, twenty minutes ago,
Like I've never been a k Reno with Chino himself
in Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
I like, that's what I'm saying, Like I don't give
a fuck about Canadino excel out.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
It's just best all day, right, is what it is. Man.
I've been I've been a I was a best fan
first obviously still am. I'm always a Chino Fino fan rappers.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
My favorite rappers are Cannabis and then them Big Pun
jay Z, and uh, I.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Don't have jay Z. I don't have jay Z in
my top five or Biggie.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Again, everybody's top five is different. Yeah, correct, but.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Yeah, jay Z's probably nine or ten for me, damming
them probably maybe maybe top.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Wait wait wait, do you think jay Z was stroking
stroking that girl.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
Brought us why the whole man? As a hip hop fan,
you hope not. But as a human being, yeah, agad
you hope not. That's fucking it's terrible, it's fucking shitty.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
If it's true, that just does that discredit all his
music and everything he's done for hip hop?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I think he didn't. It didn't.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
It did not in R Kelly's case, so I doubt
it wouldn't in Hol's case.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Right because yeah, R Kelly wasn't singing about that type
of ship, So no, JAJ doesn't rap about that type.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Of stuff, so he was singing about that type of ship.
I had one song, aga, but number no not that
when I'm sorry, Uh.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
That's alidah, sorry, that was Aliah. He got one song
that's like sort of referencing that type of behavior.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
I just forget what it was.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I had it.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
I was talking about it the other day. I forgot
it was.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
But Jay definitely doesn't have JA doesn't have material talking
about that type of stuff. So if that's actually true
and he's found guilty, then it's like, all right, that's
the that's Sean Carter.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
That did that ship.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Jay Z's different.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Jay's music's over here, you guys atually separated two.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think
he did it, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
So either it just it felt it feels so random.
It feels like and this she thought it was like you,
all right, did he did?

Speaker 1 (55:06):
He's trying to, you know, bring some of the people
under the bus with him. That's what it felt like
when I first heard that story.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
No, the the answer that the reply that Jay gave
was just too wasphisticate, you know, just too from the heart.
Obviously you know it's the truth.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen the reply. I gotta go
look at it and we'll check it out. I haven't
been anything involved with that type of ship. I tried
not not that I don't care. I'm just trying to see.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
What's going on with Pat Poos and Remy Ma. I
don't know what the fuck either. I've just been seeing
back and forth.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
I don't know who to believe that's the new headline
I'm seeing like that's the newest, like so out of touch,
Yo Edison with these little dark kwondo rondo fucking little mean,
fucking you know, Johnny out you know, I'm so.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Touch for it.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Like I'll pay attention to the core people that I
know and I like and hip hop, but when it
comes to the newer stuff, it's like, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
I really don't A lot of stuff I don't hear.
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
It's hard for me too, all of the music Young
Doug and all them guys and.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Mm hmm. But the facts me, I.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Think people style, it's just domestic stuff that normal people
go through. It just shows that they're normal domestic ship
people treating on each other. That's just normal life ship.
There just happen to be celebrities and it's just a
big deal right now.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
That happens every fucking day in this country.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
That type of yah behavior and actions and ship all right, right, right,
But it's a big deal now because you know they're celebrities.
You know Remy's you know who she is, and papals
who he is. He's not as big as herb but
people know him.

Speaker 6 (57:16):
Yeah yeah one tip.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
H h So I'm surprised you, Jamey Uh okay, that's uh. Oh.
I didn't like to put big punting your top in

(58:00):
your top five man, mm hmm. That's the why people
do that anymore or at all. If ever, there's this
guy that wraps now he's I mnna have him on
the episode soon, not soon, but when he's ready to go.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
His name is the Boss something like that.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Oh yeah, when I tell you he sounds just a
big pun he sounds just a big pun like it's identical.
It's crazy. You got a few good tracks out, so
it's awesome mm hmm. And whenever he's ready, we're gonna
get into that. But it's gonna be fire, it's gonna
be fun cool.

Speaker 6 (58:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
So what about about you, man? What else are you
guys going on?

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Life life, life is life and.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Just working on music, working on music and writing rhymes,
you know, keeping my pench shot. Yeah, and uh, you know,
just trying to adapt man to the ever evolving.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Uh world of.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Music and technology diffusion.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Yeah, with this AI coming out, you know, it's uh,
it's it's a lot to keep up with.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
It's gonna like take over, So you's gonna take over
the Yeah, stuff is going on right now.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
It did already.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Yeah, there's there's there's songs that people put together, but
it sounds like the real people. You wouldn't be able
to tell the difference, right, It's gonna be hard going
forward to liked the music.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
We're in the fourth Industrial Revolution already. And I don't mind,
you know, six distict way, I don't mind. I like it,
you know, Yeah, you know, I wish I was ten
years younger, so I could, you know, go to school
and you know, learn about AI more. But that's something

(01:00:16):
I'm still young, you know, thirty four and uh you know.
So it's a booming field, you know, and it's gonna
replace a lot of people's jobs, gonna have a lot
of repercussions.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
On the same we saw this before this happened.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yeah, a lot of course, type of a terminator bros
kind of it took over, the machines start killing everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah, man, I think we're going on that role.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I watched a lot of movies, so Tomato is one
of the top It's one of the top movies for
me all time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Yeahs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
See, so we're gonna get to a couple of top five.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Speaking of the top fives, every time a podcast episode
we asked people the top fives of random ship it's
gonna be random. You don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
You don't know what I'm gonna ask you, So it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Gonna be completely off the top of the hand, your
top five of whatever I ask you. So, since I
had a podcast episode the other day and we did
top five cereals through and threw my guest off off guard,
that's perfect because that's what you want. I want till
people off guard. I wanted to see what you throw

(01:01:29):
out there for your top five.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
So I ask you the same thing the Durams. What's
your top five cereals? My top five areas is Raisin Brand.
See I said that too. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Yeah, Raisin Brand, Apple Jacks, count chalk you really yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Hell yeah, you got you know. I can't forget crunch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Of course, classics, all classics. I agree with you on
the raging apple Jacks. There my top five as well,
but I also got corn Pops in there Send it
Tos Crunch as well, and this is where it stays.
It's four.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
So I had to pick a fifth, it would probably
be maybe Captain Crunch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
The Captain crunches up there for me with the crunchberries though, right,
it's gotta do with the crunchberries.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
It's got out of it now it's trash garbage. Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
All right, So do you a hip hop guy? So
who are your top What is your top five favorite
songs of all time? Here be for any artists, like
songs you could play back to back to back, no
matter what, no matter where you are. Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Our top five favorite songs of all time would be
uh oh, there's too many as a name, man, there's
so many great songs out there. Yeah, I'm just trying
to like get them in order. That could be. It

(01:03:28):
could be any order. Great, Yeah, tough one. I wen'll
go with the greatest song.

Speaker 6 (01:03:45):
Song.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I can follow the leader.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
All right, I can't go wrong there. Classic mm hmmm,
I like check out my melody a little bit better
than that one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Then I'm gonna go with kay Arrest, Want Soccer and ses.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
I bet the teacher. I can't go wrong with the teacher.
He's done enough people's top fives. I'm just saying, mm hmm.
Karres Overalls is not enough people's top fives. I think
he should belong. No, yeah, but the song, now, I

(01:04:43):
wanna go with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Too many days. I got a few off top that
I know that I like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Yeah, m I'll go with them trying to thank you know,
I I got two down, three lives.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Yeahs to subjects when you get put on the spot,
um hm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Be old dirty basketard Brooklyn zoo.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Yeah. I wouldn't expect that one, all right, I respect it.
So the biggest song tupac mhm could be cannabis.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
No, no like favorite favorite. Yeah yah, we'll go with
uh yuck them out new Testament outro.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Right see, I'm gonna write that down so I can
go check that out. You said yuk mouth m.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Hm Testament outro. And then I'm gonna go with uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah, especially different. I never heard that, so I'm gonna
check that shut out for sure. I'm gonna go with
the big.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Pun be aware.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I like that one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Top that's my top five. Sorry it took so long,
but no you're good. You gotta think you can put
on a spot that's that's like, it's all right if
you have a real answer, like I really those are
my real is your favorite song? Those are the ones
you want to listen to, like they come up, you repush,
the ones that you know me and me you know better. Yeah,

(01:07:24):
fall in love with hip hop and all that? Ship
for sure? All right, what are your five favorite songs?

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Mine? Ship?

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I was just thinking, Okay, one no particular order, and
this one is recent. I got.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Johan Lucas Devil's work, just a meeting behind it and everything.
The video makes it even better. I love that one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Scarface and Nas did your cald song called hip hop?

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Got to hear that track. It's amazing, Oh Ship, there's
so many let me see ses those two those are
fairly new. I do really love If I Rule the

(01:08:20):
World by Now because I think that's the first song
I've heard, Like, my earliest memory was If I Were
the World on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
The radio, So I'm the that's the first one I've heard,
yeah on the radio, Oh Ship. I was the first
not song I heard was I think it was a
hard it's sow not what's not? That's that one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
But what When I was young, I was a hip
pop shorty rock know for rock and microphones and switching
off for forty top.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Ah, fucking is that amatic? It's all mad that? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
I think at the title one Time for your Mom. Okay, yes, yeah,
that was my first song.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Yeah, yeah, I wasn't into music early on. I was
just I don't know what the hell was doing early on.
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
I remember my first hip hop song listened to was
If I Were the World, and I was like, what
the hell is this? And it's just like everything was
about it was so good and I was like, oh shit,
this is nice. So it's gotta be that just because
of the that's the first one I've heard.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
The first hip hop first step of tape that I
purchased was LL Cool Phenomenon.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
I got two thousand, two thousand, No, No, that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Was like, no, it's ninety eight. I got it in
two thousand and one. A fleet a flea market.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Not worse ship.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Hell yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
We had to think called strawberries out here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Used to go to Strawberries and get fucking four for
ten or three for ten whatever the deal was for
hip hop CDs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
I'm trying to think of other other tracks.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
CD is even worth the Edison man, like the rappers
really need to print out, like, you know, it doesn't
make it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
It's for it's for the collectors. It's for the collector.
See my rock hit one one right here?

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Yeah, yeah, wall Who the fuck is collected these like
a couple of you know, a couple of people doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
I'm doing it. It's not work, It's not worth. I
feel like it's not even worth.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
That's what the whole beef with cannabis and that made
the is, you know, kind of about now like Mayde
wants to put all cannabis his future fucking records on
vinyls and ship and CDs, and cannabis is like, bro,
it's a new fucking day and age. You know, I

(01:11:08):
agree with that, you know what I mean, Like, cannabis
is kind of you know, cannabis has his mind in
the future, you know, I mean, he's got his mind.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Yeah. Uh for the it's for the collectors, people that grew.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Up with it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Yeah, yeah, nods, you know, shut out, you know, shout
out to uh yeah, those those officionados who love to
have you know that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
He's like because yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Yo, Cannabis is not moving awaited you know, you just
wanting for the CD to drop it, the stores to
go get it now, just like be uploaded to Spotify.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
That's just not You appreciate the music, but it's just
not the same, you know, like I love, I love
not to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Sit the same for us, but for this, you know,
you know the generation now like, yeah, they're not that's
how they consume music.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
You know, they're not going in a record stores, so like,
you know, like we feel like.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
We're missing out, like it's some nostalgic ship. But yeah,
you know, anybody you know fucking you know twenty seven,
you know twenty five, you know they they the fuck
are they gonna buy a CD for? You know, what
are they gonna buy a city for? And and it's
not like Cannabis makes you know, music for those people.

(01:12:36):
That's not his fan base. But it ain't about like yo,
you know, I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna keep it
all the way a buck right now, Like it ain't
about fucking fuck his fan base, yo. Fuck you know,
fuck Cannabis is fan base, yo, because they all want
extreme extreme requests from them. Oh do this I want

(01:12:58):
you to rap like you did in nineteen ninety eight.
I want you to fucking like, yeah the fuck out
of here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
You know, like he's gonna do what he wants to
do when he wants to always, Yeah, it's up to you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
They appreciate it or not.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Yeah, you know, he wants to move forward with that time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
I don't. I don't mind that at all. But also
I think the CDs helped the artists get more money
because you're.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Owning a piece of it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
And according to people stoopid other artists, Spotify don't pay
you that much. They don't pay the artist.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
They do, yeah, they do.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
But now when you got fucking MD fucking you know,
handling the fucking order for fillments and fucking all of
a sudden, to you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
The vinyls go fucking missing, you know, like my like
mine did. I only ordered one of the vinyls and
that was a reconstruction for that on the wall right here.
That's my ship right there. That's why they're doing it
for people that collect But.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Huh, my top five songs, man, that's you put me
in a spot because I wasn't ready for that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
No one ever asked me that question back so oh yeah,
I like Poet, I.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Like port Lauria. I like Poet Lauria too. Off the
Rip the Jacker album, that's one of my favorites. No
matter what. That song come on, I'm I'm gonna rock
that song right there. Inspire for those of you out
there that never listen to that, listen to. That track
is really good. Ship.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Its way too many songs, way too many artists.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Yeah, but eight is nowhere. And then yo, keep it
a buck. He's like one of the fucking packers. Have
you ever heard right as a rapper, I've.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Only heard like, I've only heard maybe three songs. He
was gone, yeah, trash right. I wasn't feeling it that
the song I could say to it nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Yeah, nobody. Yeah that's why. Yeah he quit wrap like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
He does.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Hold the whole was the world record for the look.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
He still is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
He still running in his fucking mouth about cannabis on. Uh.
You know, his little his little he has.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
I don't think he hasn't a while. I mean I
haven't really been paying attention.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Shut him the fuck up. I've been busy with work
and that ass. I was like, Yo, you're not gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Talk to my man's best like that, you just disrespect them,
spread lies, yeah you know yo, And Nadi knows industry people,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
So it does he work with a lot of big artists,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Yeah, so what he says, you know, kind of holds weight,
you know. So and this is Simon Salmon all this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
You know he hasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
He hasn't been defended himself, you know. So you just
got Nate fighting you know, fucking wait she know, like
sells daughter, driving her insane, Yeah, and then attacking cannabis
fucking weirdo like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Weirdo ship y'all, dead ass, y'all. I don't play with
that ship like.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
I got that love be sho like yo, the way
you're talking about cannabis making, you know, bring bringing up
attention for him, uh you know what he does for
his work, you know, like putting him on blast like that,
Like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yeah, Like I don't agree with that, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
I smacked the ship out of and the dead ass
if I haven't seen him, Oh, like I saw much
love I got for best yo. You know corny ship y'all.
That's supposed to be his manager, his ex manager X
and you know middleman and now you now you know
you publicly you probably you know, disrespecting him like yo,

(01:16:53):
you low class?

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Is it because Cannabis old that money to the people
that he old to. Don't of the story obviously, yo, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
That's not He's just the fucking that was the case.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
You know, none of those people a messaging you know,
Cannabis for money. It's just madey looking for attention, doing
it for views. You know, he gave Cannabis thirty thousand
dollars and made he gave Cannabis thirty thousand dollars of
his own money to try to convince Cannabis to quit

(01:17:35):
his job as whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
I've heard that, I've heard that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Yeah, let's not Yeah, I don't know if you know,
but you know, let's not put this business some blessed
like that. But because you know, we don't do that
around here. You know, we don't put people's fucking purpose,
you know, the personal stuff out there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Yeah, yo, who the fuck yo? And made fucking clown
man can do that. Cannabis for it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Is kind of fun up. It feels fed up. Besides
to a story. I don't know you decide that. Well,
I'm not I'm not there, but.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
So I just go with it. I just watched the
videos and I just know I'll keep scrolling, you know, yeah, yeah,
so yeah me even fucking choke bro.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
That is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Plain simple, yo, plain simple. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
I don't know personally to actually have an opinion on them,
but well, the podcast I did with it was it
was good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
It was you don't got You don't got as much
as well for cannabis as I do. That's just that's
just what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Well, you do him personally though, That's why.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Right you met up, you don't have.

Speaker 6 (01:18:52):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Yeah, exactly for sure you understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
So you know you know you couldn't possibly understand you know, Yeah,
I gotcha.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Say for my last song from my top five, I
can't give it to you because I don't know it.
There's too many songs out there to actually know it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
I could. I could throw a bunch out there that
I really love.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Ether is up there by now, second round knockout by
This is actually up there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
One of my favorite songs. A Z got a few
songs that I love.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
My money murdered the second round knockout man, I don't
want to hear that anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
I hate when people saying, you know what kind of
people mentioned that, It's like, why the fuck you bring
it up?

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Second round knockout?

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
People are still asking who ja about that whole beef?
And he was on Drink Chance they asked him. He
was on Joe Bunden podcast, they asked him. I was like, bro,
this is old ship. Why are we talking about a
battle that's twenty five years old? Twenty seven years old?
Whatever fuck it is. That's so wild that asking about

(01:20:07):
different stuff. What's he doing now? Why bring up that
battle from that long as though there's no point to it?
What are you getting out of it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Views? Yeah, it's ramm shit out of me, that's all
they didn't like. But that is being graceful about it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
And he's taking full, you know, not full blame, but
he's taking a part, partial, more than partial blame before
that whole battle, and that's good to see. But they're
not a fan of that. Like, you're asking about this
this shit so many years later? Who cares it's over
and done with? How about giving him his flowers for

(01:20:49):
what he's done. All the freestyles he's rapped, all the
featured verses that he's killed, instead of talking about an
old beef that's twenty seven years old, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Okay, right, I'm with you today, ship, So what's up? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
All right? Top five?

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
You drink sodas, pype sodas? What you call what do
you guys call it? Do you guys call soda? Right? Yeah?
We called soa Okay, because I have I have family
in Chicago they call it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Pop like.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Yeah yeah pop uh serge PEPSI.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Serge Holy Ship shout out to serve ship yo, doctor pepper.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
But I don't drink much soda, you know, I mean
I'm drinking.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
I'm drinking. I got I've been drinking Mountain, Mountain, dude,
the road okay word yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
And uh uh strawberry f.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Word words. I like that list with it. Surge is
to throw back. I didn't expect the surge at all. Yeah,
that's my favorite classic.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
This surg is so awesome. It's really good.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
I was glad when they brought it back around during
the quarantine. Yeah, that was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Know what happened to it? Well, they took they took
it out, man, they took out the shows. They was like, yeah,
that's enough.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Hm. I feel like that with Baja Blast, like I
don't drink soda at all. But if I do drink,
drink yeah yeah. I'm more of a Seltzer guy. Now
I do Seltzer's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
So if I do a soda, I'm gonna go have
a Baja Blast. That's about it. And it's only soda
I like right now, just because it's something good. It's classic.
It's been around for years. But I'm more just water
and juice. To see the jug get on the water today.
It's tough, but.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
I try to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
It's good. But if I had to do top five sodas,
it would be Baba Blast. You got regular Coca Cola,
you got. I put ginger in there because I love
Jarell Coke.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
You gotta put Surgeon there because you reminded me of it,
and it definitely is top material.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
You have to and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Yo, I look ORNI soda like orn soda an.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Yeah no, yeah, Sunkiss, Yeah, Sunkiss is better than crush,
Oh for sure, easy, I got. I gotta given honorable
mention A Pepsi blue man, Remember Pepsi fucking blue?

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
And I never was a Pepsi fance, so I never
tried it. It's always a coke fan. I was always
your cokes better than Pepsi all the time. So just
because of that reason, I didn't try anything Pepsi. So
I got older, so Pepsi Blue was already gone. But
the time I got older, so I never really tried it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Yeah, I'm in the Mountain du Cans with the fucking
Star Wars characters on the jaw jaw bangs and fucking
fandom fandom of the Clones.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Yeah, we just regular bah blah. I mean it was
just regular mountain do it just said characters.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
It made them taste better. Like they still sell them, Yeah,
we do. Yeah, they still sell the money man. But yeah,
I get myself a little microphone for for Christmas or
the treat. I want to get an ant one fifth
Edition Road. It's the first microphone that has a built

(01:24:54):
in audio interface. You could plug in a x L
r K ble as well as a USB cable. I'll
just released in uh I think either the beginning of
twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three. I think twenty
twenty two, And it packs a punch and the first
microphone of its kind where you know you just if

(01:25:17):
you want to put a XL R and plug it
into a pre app.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
You can.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
If you want to just plug it into a fucking USB,
you can. It's that like, uh like an outlet, you know,
right at the bottom, you know. I plugs both of them.
And so because I sold my MIC, I sold my
MIC equipment and uh yeah, so I'm picking up this
NT one fifth edition Road been trying to look for

(01:25:46):
a good deal on it. Quotes about like dude requests
like three hundred dollars. You could find them deal find them,
find like a deal for like two eighty, you know,
So I'm looking for a cheaper one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
But uh kind of mic. You guys that it's at.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Uh yey yeddy A white one. Yeah, I saw it
on I want to say. I got off Amazon and
it costs more. I don't know why, but the more
because it was all white.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
It is a Baghetti Pro white. Yes, uh sick. Yeah,
that's pretty good for podcasts.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
They're awesome. They're amazing. They got the different settings on
it and everything, all that stuff. I got my my
sticker from the the Chino album. I said, I don't
know where to put the sticker. I don't know what
the fun I'm gonna do with it, and then I said,
put on the mic.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
It looks good there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
It's good at this to my mic. I ain't getting
no sticker. Fuck now, they tell you what a sticker?

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
You know what he knew he was sending it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
He was like, I'm giving him no sticker right exactly,
exactly handle sticker. I think at the rocking post summer,
I gotta find it. I gotta hang it up.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
And that's ship. Do you think that albums gonna come
true next year? The rock Him and Scarface? So rumor
about that. I don't know if it's true or not,
but I do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
I think rock Him is gonna try to keep the
momentum growing that he got this year, and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Yeah it makes sense for him they were dropping in
twenty twenty five way, you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Know, versus later round it would be amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Yeah, definitely. What does he think of the album?

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
See that's I was just talking to somebody about it today.
I called out an album. I was like, what do
you think about the rock Can album? And they were like,
what album? It's the fucking EP.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
I said the same ship too. The bros like seven
songs or any sounds whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Yeah, I called it an album. You know, I don't
you know Project E P. I guess you know, can
fit you know, either one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
But I miss I do miss. This is what I
miss about I like you and albums. People used to
drop what's the year if that? Maybe more did have
at least ten to fourteen tracks on it, have some feature.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
They had like twenty sometimes and.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Yeah, back then you would we had we had the
attention span back then.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Yes, that was just you know what I mean people
with everything.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Yeah, no, we we were able to listen to uh,
you know, three sets of sixteen bars in the song.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Yeah, we span larger than they do now now. The
average attention span, you know, it's that's why everything's like
two minutes long every.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Song, and the popular songs for the newest artists one
verse hook, half a verse hook.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Again, yeah, because the hook, the hook of the beats
whats now that's yeah, yeah, I'm I'm not gonna do that. Yeah,
I'm going back to the old style and.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
At least two verses, like that's that's the hip hop
that people that love hip hop want, at least at
least two verses. Maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Yeah, So I got I got this ep Man coming out.
You know, I'm trying to drop it twenty twenty five.
It's called Ready for War Cannabis, Pat Pools, Inspected, Deck,
Craig g Jojo Pellegrino as Passionate MC and I gotta
beat from Classic Pack and uh, you know, I'm trying
to add as many you know, extra seasonings and spices

(01:30:03):
and little perfections and uh, you know, trying. I'm trying
to source it up and uh you know, it's marinate
and right now I'm just you know, gonna wrap it
and then uh, you know, tinfoil, let it cook nice
and listen, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go down to
uh yeah, I'm gonna go down to Staten Island and

(01:30:24):
I have a Chedda Bang.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
He works with method Man.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
He he runs method Man Studio, Methlev Studios down in
Staten Island.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
And yeah, he just he just did. He just did.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Uh he just did his sting thing and the bing
bang got out. Uh he did seven years and he's out.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
You know, he's uh.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Meth demands and Inspected. That guy he got swarms with him.
So I'm gonna reach out to him for a couple
of beats. I got Classic Pack on the production. I'm
trying to get you know, I'm gonna get shout a
bang on.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
The production and yeah, amazing man.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
Yeah, I wanna I live up state now. I live
bit upstate New York, you know, and you know, I
don't want to record the album up here. You know,
I don't want to have it. I don't want it
to have that you know, fucking state New York energy.
You know, I'm a I'm a New York City rapper,
you know. You know, it's a different free you know,

(01:31:27):
you know the Grizzeldas and you know, in Buffalo and
that way. You know, I'm I'm I'm like six hours
before that, maybe even a little bit more. But the
rap is you know, around here, it's still an Upstate style,
you know, it's more it's more similar, you know. And

(01:31:50):
they sound the same to the boat, you know, so
and uh, you know everybody up here, you know, they're
Buffalo bills fans and ship so you know it's different.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
You know, Are you am I Buffalo those men?

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
I am actually ok. Yeah, you know we do sports
just because I lived up there for the past ten years,
so you know, but but yeah, down there it's uh,
it's different, you can yeah, it's just different. Different style.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
The or is different, the feelds different, like just everything
is just.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
Yeah, the upstate upstate rap scene is more like the
Buffalo rap scene. And uh, okay, so my project's going
to be more New York you know, New.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
York, New York, you know style. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah,
I can't wait for that. When when do you you said?
First quarter next year? Right? Yeah? No, lady, are you
doing quarter? You know you do? Nah? Nah?

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Man twenty five right, it's gonna stream it right exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
You know that digital ship CDs, you know, like when
you get thrown out the window, they get scratched, you know,
fucking broken.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
When people collect you know, you know, if you do
press one, I'll take one, you know, because I want
to add to the question.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
I'm gonna keep at it, you know. Yeah, I might,
I might, I might. I might need something, you know,
just to have them on tech. You know, it lasts
a lifetime, you know, right, Yeah, No, I won't.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
Probably want I probably I probably make something, and then
you know, I won't promote them, but I'll reach out
to like you know, you know certain you know, yeah, yeah,
I'm trying to as much, dude, I'm really focused on
AI and trying to get into that field and.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Uh, you know, start using.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
You know, create like an AI avatar that uh you
know has my speech, my mannerisms, my vocabulary, you know,
And I want I want to use that a AI
avatar to promote for me on you know, fucking social

(01:34:33):
media Facebook. You know, instead of seeing my face, you know,
you're gonna see the AI avatar. You know that looks
and sounds just like me giving an update, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Dropping a wrap. Yeah that's uh, you know, so that's
that's just a small, small idea I got. And then.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
And then yeah, I want to take you know, do
some ship in the metaverse because everything, you know, in
the Fourth Industrial Revolution, everything is, everything has changed, my brother,
everything is. You know what the Fourth Industrial Revolution is?

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
No, I was gonna look it up after the episode.
You put me on the spot. Well, yeah, let me
know what, let me know what I like to learn.
So tell me what's the First Industrial Revolution? Donna, no
clue I gotna care about for history in class? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
Fucking you know, Second Industrial Revolution, steamboats and ship, Third
Industrial Revolutions, Internet and ship. Okay, what industrial revolutions. Yeah, yeah, completely, Yeah,
like what like it gets really involved in uh in

(01:36:04):
human life and you could either like learn about it
and get with it or like just you know, wake
up one day and uh, you know, I have no
idea how to have a how the world works.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
So I think the most important thing.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
Is a I right now, like as a person, like
I'm constantly reading about different AI models and uh, you know,
new technologies and open AI and Elon Musk whatever he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
All the robots.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
Yeah, exactly exactly, and uh, you know, and like I said,
with music, you know, everything is changing, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
You know, fucking like CDs music, how do you appreciate
the actual artists music?

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
I can take it, you know, you know, like I was,
you know, if I'm listening to like a Cannabis CD. Yeah,
and you know, I running out of the track, you know,
I played a last song and then like there's like
an AI remix, like I listened to it, like you know,
I'm I'm already vibing out, like I heard some dope shit.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
You know, there's been some crazy mixes I've heard recently.
They sound like they were just made yesterday. That's the
scary thing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Like I want to say it was a.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
It could be like a Tupac song with somebody else,
and it sounded legit that they were just in a
studio together yesterday, you know, recording it. I feel like
that's that's the scary part of it, Like we don't
we to get all this stuff, but it's not gonna
be authentic.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
Yeah, it's not gonna be authentic unless it's down uniquely
and in an authentic way.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
Uh, Papa Digit he's an AI rapper.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Let's you mentioned him in a few posts.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
Yeah, Papa digs Ai.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Who's Who's Who's patrolling that? Who's running that? There's somebody
okay is it?

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
It's a team. It's the team. It's a team of
a few people. But Papa Dig is not like you know,
Papa Dig was Digit Digital. Yeah, proper Digital.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
The hell's that? Look? Arizona's Starbucks and a lot of times.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
That'sa try to stay up all night ship.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
Yeah man night hour of lately. Oh yeah, yeah, I've
been out of work, you know, left my job before
years over the summer.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
Just got it back today. Heard Cogrets cogreats on that.
Congrets thank you. Thank you good spirits. Yeah, what were
you doing here? If you don't want me asking? So
I worked as a.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
Customer service rep for National Grid and I would help
people get the gas an electric turned.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
On and off.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
I would collect like you know, like payments and shit.
And yeah, I started doing that in March twenty twenty.
And it's interesting, like the pandemic changed everything, like kind
of like goes back to the a our topic we

(01:40:01):
were talking about, like because you know, like I started
out in the office and then the pandemic you know,
maybe you know, we had to work from home and
it was like just you know, right away changes and
computer systems and programs we was using. It just seemed

(01:40:22):
like like the you know, it was AI based out
of it and it snuck its way in and you know,
it was a good time. You know, it was a
natural disaster. But you know it has its you know,
benefits and it has its Yeah, but that's a good

(01:40:47):
ship though.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
What else is going on? So uh, just uh.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
Just record a music band, you know, writing and I
got a lot, I got a lot to lay down.
I can't I can't wait to put it out. I'm
stigning up with tone cores Pat Poose is president of
that and trying to make you know, some songs that

(01:41:24):
I can pitch the SYNK license licensing agents.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Yeah, that's not that's not a streaming app, right, that's
a recording app. Right. No, tune Core is actually a
distribution h distributor. OK.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Yeah, they offer like a lot of other services like
you know, SYNC licensing and publishing and.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
So a couple of other things I'm trying to do,
you know, when I get the music recorded is just
ultimately try to get it in some kind of media, TV, film,
you know, radio commercial, fucking even at like an airport
or came on just somewhere where I can get a

(01:42:16):
royalty check and uh, you know, get a nice credit.
So trying to do that too, you know, a couple
of goals, trying to start start. You know, I'm determined
to drop this EP out early, you know, this way,
and just keep the momentum going, keep the momentum going

(01:42:37):
from there, don't let it stop and uh yeah, don't
don't let shit get stagnant.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
The only way to go is forward, bro, So I
gotta do act brother, all right, the dorms, it's getting late, man,
appreciate you coming on the podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
I'll cut up some video from here and edit a
little bit to be posted soon. I think it's an
auto post of the whole podcast on the Facebook page
and on the YouTube page.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Mhm.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
But I always take them out and I'll cut them
up big reels, make you know, little little videos of
it here and there, so it's gonna show up everywhere
and I'll share them. I'll tag you in it, man,
it was It was awesome to talk to you. Finally
got it done after you know, who knows how long,
It doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
We got it done.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
That was fire. Good to hear the stories that you
got and looking forward to the new project you got
coming out. Uh on all platforms right, Spotify, Google, all
this all the good, Stuffy, We'll.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
Be worry too. Yeah, the Unice, thanks for having me.
It's been a pleasure, Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
Appreciate it, man, take it easy to meet you man later.
That's how we had the hearty podcast. Did there a
supposed again? Thank you, Ralph Boz
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