The One Covering the 2024 NBA Finals Dallas vs Boston

Enjoy this episode as I have the return of Big J and close friend Ky Smooth. We dive in to the 2024 NBA finals with the Mavs vs Celtics. Another segment of ALL OUT BLITZ with mostly Dallas and LA Lakers players. Like share and suscribe on all podcast platforms

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Episode Transcript

(00:14):
Alright, another episode, another week, another day, Happy podcasts coming to
you another week. Like I said, another day, new episode. How
do you guys doing out there?I hope everybody's doing good. Had a
good week. Work went well.I did a month for us manufacturing folks.
But you know all that goes busyday but not not really. Sorry,

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nothing we can't handle tonight with Maybewe gotta got Big Jay in the
building. Big Jam's going on beingjam? What's going on? How you
doing? Chilling? Chilling? What'slife? Life? Right? Life is
life? Life is life? Andwhat's cooking? I'm not cooking nothing?
No, no no. We alsogot my boy Kay wanted to but to

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come on. What's going on?What's going on? Man? I got
doing man? Thanks for the invite, appreciate it. You should be coming
through. It was a pleasure adventuatbecause we are doing the NBA Finals podcast.
We love talking about different things onthe Empty podcast. Here. We
do basketball, we do hip hop, we do music, we do a
whole bunch of things. It's gota different episode coming for you guys tomorrow.

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Hopefully that goes through. It shouldI don't see why not, but
it's gonna be fun. It's gonnabe real fun. Uh. Who could
have predicted Dallas Boston in the finals. I think I think the Boston was
a pretty sure lock in the East. But they didn't play anybody important or

(01:47):
healthy. They haven't played a goodteam yet. But they played everybody that
was injured. Everybody was injured,everybody. Jimmy Butler was injured. I
don't think Jimmy Butler played at allright. Julius rand was injured, Randa
was heard and then half to theex ventures her because they were playing seven
guys a game and then haller Burnwas in the full strength. How they
got hurt? What second game?First game? For a second and that

(02:12):
was it. That was easy.They were done. They haven't seen the
team like us. And be honest, I'm general manager of the Merricks.
I think Boston doesn't beat anybody inthe West this year. I think if
it was Denver, if it wasMinnesota, if it was Okay see maybe
okay see, it would be thedifferent spot. I knew. I knew
after we beat the Clippers, becausethat's I was worried about getting out in

(02:35):
the first round with them. Iknew we had it and I knew we
had it in the bag. There'sa lot of experts that didn't think nobody
nobody, nobody didn't they did.It was mad in the first round.
That was amazing that you guys madeit out the first round and what four
six s first round? First round? Five wasn't sweet? It was six

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six, six and five. Okay, See the sixth was killing. So
I was gonna say, how muchyou how they do kidding Lakers? Man?
You know, hey, I thinkthey did alright. Man, it's
just like I said, man,Lakers Lebron. You know, he's trying

(03:23):
to curate the teams is old age, you know, like the guy.
The guy's amazing. But you knowthey just they just ran into a jugger.
They need they need some new youngblood. You know. Ridding is
that guy. He's he's leading candidateright now because he uns. I don't
see why he needs to be thecoach because he runs a good podcast.

(03:46):
Because they put Shobers coach because hehas a good podcast to thinking about the
Lakers. You could tell he's asmart dude. Yeah so stim Duncan.
He's never gonna be a Kobe.So you gotta find the right piece that's
gonna build a team, you knowwhat I mean, the Lakers, and
that's hard, harder doing. Theygot Lebron when he was like like almost
out his peak. He wasn't stillin his peak. He wasn't the Cleveland

(04:10):
Cavalier in Miami heat Lebron. Youknow, so you got under He's still
really good man, absolutely still playinggood. You know. I mean,
the guy's amazing. But like Isaid, he wasn't the Cleveland Cavalry rookie
Lebron or the heat, the heatLebron. No one knows what he's gonna
do yet, still right, becausethey don't know what This club is not
gonna get drafted. This is notdraft. This is not good at all.

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His scouts are getting proven wrong alreadybecause his vertical is up there.
The scribbish numbers doesn't mean anything scrimmagedraft. He's six to one. That's
hard to play the NBA and hecan't pass nothing. But what I'm saying
is his numbers are doing really goodagainst other draft guys that are going to

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get drafted. Hide he might.If he drafted, he'll be brought on
undrafted. He's not driving raft.If he does, it'll be in the
second round. If he does,possibility of getting getting Lebron to that team.
That's probably the only reason why hewould get drafted because of his last
name. There's nothing wrong with thatson, wrong, no, but no,

(05:16):
but you don't want that. LikeMargaret Harrison Junior, if his father
was trash you, he put inwork, I mean so that his father
Brownie hasn't put it in no typeof work anywhere. He's only he's only
known because his father is Lebron James. Nobody talking about Carmelo's son. And
he's way better than Brownie. Ohyeah, absolutely, if he was here,

(05:41):
he was here well. And plushis other son is better than them
too. There's other some six seven. Yes, I forget, yes,
way better, better vertical shots.He's like a DRNT, way better than
I know. It's gonna be abetter pro for sure. But we'll see
what happens with that. Yeah,Like Lakers ran into a juggernaut Denver and

(06:04):
then Dever got silenced by Minnesota,which harn shocked me. Minnesota was then
get silence, they went to theywent to seven, then they get silent
was SI it was seven. Whenit was seven, I expected Dever to
win. No home team won onthe floor that that that series, every
road team won on the road,every single game, every single game.

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That's amazing. Was the last timethat happened? Amazing, But that's the
same. And then they went toDenver and beat On by forty on top
of that, so it was byforty by forty. I didn't see the
final. They're blowing them out,so I turned the TV offs. I
didn't final score. But yeah,this this is definitely a weird finals.
I don't think anybody predicted it.Maybe one guy, but he got a

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slip it for Dallas winning the titlethis year. Fight out of bat for
like a hundred k. Hope hegets it. That'd be awesome. It's
funny. We we beat We beatthe Clippers to go to the next round
of their home and okay, intheir home and in Minnesota in their home
series. They're scared to play onthe road. I think Dallas tastes game

(07:09):
one shot they're gonna sweep. Whenthat's what happened. Oh that's rough.
I got my boys winning for toone for one for one, Boston sneak
winning. That's it, Boston,see to it. Kyrie. Remember Luka
doesn't play that good defense. He'sgotten better. He doesn't play defense.

(07:30):
Is Kyrie one of them got toguard? You must know, you must
not been watching any of the games. Are playing better defense than any play
with players on any of the squadLucas Luca has been locking the players and
just no to morrow, you haven'tbeen seen. You haven't seen because it's
because who he has behind them,Gafford, Lively, all the big men.

(07:51):
Who's the other big man? PJ. Washington, He's got a big
man he has to help. Butfrom live Dan Go, that's it.
Man rotations. But he's been injured, that's what injury. He play his
whole playoffs. He played one gameagainst Minnesota, that was it the clincher.

(08:13):
He was injured. Yeah, Inoticed Tims had a hard time getting
into the paint. Yeah, hada hard time. Yeah, but think
about that time they had a hardtime getting into the paint and we had
an easy time get into the paint. They had defensive player the Year in
the middle there. Well. Inmy opinion, Dallas has the best backcourt

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in the n b A. He'sdone the best carrier, had the best
back, one of the best handle. They said it could be one of
the best scoring back course of alltime there up there, probably up there
with the Mavericks. They don't havetheir their player, the centers. They
just need to be the on terrier. They don't really need them to score.

(08:56):
Those are bonuses. That's one dude, like one when we drafted him
and we were sitting right here.I like that ball. I related that
ball because Wolves. I really thoughtthere was a team because they was so
long as well. They had RudyGobert as a terrier terrier for ser Carl
Towns and stretched five that could shootthe three ball sounds. You know.

(09:16):
They had uh, Kyli Anderson comeoff the bench, the Chinese, the
Chinese black guy whatever, six sixten whatever. Oh his hairline to drives
me, you know. But I'msaying that they were so diverse that the
Timberwolves, you know, they wastalking about anti other words like the ninety
four Jordan's when you put that exactly, that's what him. He put that

(09:37):
dunk on Gafford. He looked thatlooked like too much after the Dimmer series.
And then after you said, ohI got Kyrie and Kas on him,
they couldn't. They had too much. They gave enough props. Good
said that Edwards. I think KyrieBustes he had. He has everything to

(09:58):
be the great. He's good towork on i q as maturity, maturity,
his mature in the game. Andhe's little young. Tell you can
tell you a little young twenty two. That is twenty two, and he's
still young. Really, he's stillyoung to the game. But he has
all the athleticism, he has thephysicality, he has everything about it.
His character, the way he carrieshe's gonna notice, he's gonna want.

(10:22):
He takes, he takes, hetakes the lead on the bench when they're
down and they're on the during thetime outs. Plenty of proof of that.
He's actually he's actually speaking telling theteam like like you know, we're
gonna get we got this, wegot this. So he's actually gonna take
over that team eventually. The footagejust him saying, if we win this

(10:43):
game, we go to game seven, we winning it. Yeah, but
that's what we're gonna win. Mcdamesopened his mouth said we're gonna run the
table. After they won the firstgame, he said, no, it's
we're gonna run the table. Andthen then then next game you can't Lougle
Dropps twenty in the first quarter andthere was a robber for the players.
You can't give other teams that bulletinboard material because they're gonna use it against

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you. Man. That's you lookfor an edge, You look for something
to hype you up. You wantto use something to use against the other
team. Momentum. We were doinga podcast undering the NBA Draft. We
did it live Susan Marriage grabbed.I told my brother, I want Derek.
I want Derek Lively. Susan Marriagegrabbed Deck Light. I was hyped.
That has been an AMA. Thenthe winning of the Rookie of the

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Year, I think it would havebeen him. I think it'd been Derek
Light. The news was nice allyear, all year. Came out of
Duke. Yeah, came out ofDuke. Yeah. Nice. I remember
that it was called live Draft.The seven seven feet even do this nice
man. He just catches the lives. And when we got guy from the
PJ Washington just to wrap after that, Dallas definitely has a nice, even

(11:50):
out team. I like it.Trades at the deadline for Gafford and PJ
Washington. I thought it was youknow, it was just one of those
it's the Feller Jones a great pickupseason is great. I don't know he
was gonna play to be great.Man, that's one of the long players.

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Man, they got Derrick Jones Junior. You know why that lively long
stretch players. You know why theywent that route because Luca doesn't play defense.
And it's not not against Luca.They know that, they know he
can't play defense that well. Soyou surround them with players that are long,
lanky, agile, athletic that willif somebody gets by Luca. But

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we're at the right, we gotyou, we got you covered. And
that's not a bad thing against Lucabecause there's plenty people in the NBA that
don't play defense. He's not theonly one. He's one of the worst
ones. But if you surround themwith a good center and a nice,
big, tall and he got LivelyJones at the three. I don't help,
I don't guard. I don't seethis. Something's beating them if they
don't have KP. Don't see thatinside a can I handle d or like

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Gafford Gaffer had go Bear. Hewent straight up. He went up with
go Beart. Gaffer only sixty nineas the center Bear seventh seven. That
do you see how you see hisjump. Yeah, he was gaffer.
He has a he has a longshe jumped out. He blought go bear

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like face to face. It musthave been like five six times. Gaff
is a problem that he was guardedguys that six think six eight. Honestly,
he was underside centered, he wasguarding people. She was he was.
You see the way he finishes.Yeah, he's a monster, but
he don't don't go bear? Isthat that play? Ja James Bears a

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good player. Couldn't handle this likemore like a more like an efficient jump
McGee more efficient. When McGee firstcame out, he was was was good
because it was hard Flora. That'snow, that's average in the NBA,
not somebody that ty Gwenby chat homegreen shooting got coming in coming in look

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at but he can't shoot like howWemby and you know, can you imagine
had a jump shot right now likeGafford and the guys. He wasn't even
he wasn't even stiff. He wasn'teven good like he either like he's stiff.
Look stiff rock step hook or rockstep dunk like you he's not really

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You gotta be you gotta be ableto be a great player in the n
b A. That's what i'mna callit now. I think I think clinking
will be better. He's gonna bea bus I'm calling now talking him,
that's all. He was super bust. That was a super bust. He
looked like he's gonna have bobo superbust health problems down the road. In

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the n b A A two gameshe got the Really he he should be.
He doesn't have a shot. Hedoesn't have a shot right, a
longer range. He's not hitting three. He hits like a long range.
Call shoot like Lemby, call me, call me, and probably not he

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was. He was, he's absolutely, but you take you don't have the
pen. He didn't go on thethree. He can't go on the three.
Know what? In this league,you gotta have a shot. They
are more agile, more athletic thanhim. They had a quicker first step
to him, so might get byhim. But he's a big dude.
He's got the weight on him.He's got the wait on them too.
Especially. Yeah, the bust isa it's a big word to call Zach.

(15:50):
I think you know fifty, heget drafted. He'll get drafted,
for sure. He can in thefirst run. Ji drafted s in July
June. Yeah, going top three, top two, top three, who
Tyren Shannon Junr. Yeah, he'sthe top three Illinois. But I think

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I think this guy's gonna go numberone. What's his name? The guy
from France, the France guy friendthe colonels. Yeah, forgot his name.
I forget, Yeah, I forget. His name? Is escaping you
right? He's like six not college? Yeah, yeah, he's from France,
frank College. He's nice, He'snice as hell. He's really good.
It's him a couple of normals.She's going to the top five.

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Yeah, clion Is Robert to gotop five, s one, top ten,
the top five. I would lovePortland to grab clinking seven and that
somebody that's at fourteen. I'll behappy, clean cleanon can he can make
itself, he can work on theshot. He's athletic defender, anchor,
no center, he could run thefloor, no center from you can't never

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work out. It's never worked out. Ok before a little bit, but
before it was like two years lookingfor to a little bit. Like game
in the league. You gotta haveyou gotta have a shot, you gotta
have a shot. So if Clintondeveloped that fifteen for twenty foot jumper,
the be alright, who's having Blakeall Blake? That was done. I'm

(17:18):
gonna give you an example of theshot. I'm gonna give you an example.
A guy that dominated the college thecollege basketball when he was in the
league. He was in college basketball. He dominated the college basketball, set
all types of records, nothing inthe A c C. A guy named
Tyler Hansburg. Oh yeah, guywas domin He dominated, He dominated,

(17:38):
he was college. All he didwas dropping, he did rebounds, put
backs, he got. He wasHe was a regular player, which an
NBA was a normal, normalist player. Same thing with Jimmer for that same
thing lived up college. He wasshooting from behind the three, like thirty
feet. He was shooting like crazyme. J j Reddick. J J

(17:59):
Reddick was a good career. Butit wasn't like well, champion, champion,
he was setting records. He wasa good He was a good role
player. Like Adam Morrison. AdamMorrison was really good. Anthony Anthony super
boss like dudes like when they getit's just something different about the NBA.

(18:22):
Love is, like I think tome, love is like your health style,
like you gotta think gonna be theNBA A. Two games, different
levels to it, you know.So yeah, get back to Dallas.
I'm going six games before you knowyou, Boston, No, No,

(18:42):
I got Dallas with it. Ithink I just I just like the whole
kid and the kid as a formingpoint, Boston does Kyrie and Luca or
point guards, and it depends.It depends on how Drew Holiday is playing
and who is guarding. If he'splaying good defense and locking up, if

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he is locking up, one ofthe two is probably gonna be Kyrie over
Luca. It's it's he's he's maybe. But it's gonna be hard to lock
them too up, you know,it is it is. You gotta pick
one or the other. You gottastick to one, lock that person up
and see if the other one canbeat you. They have to pray that
is Kyrie because Luca is gonna lightit up from anywhere, I guess anybody.

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Even though Brown and Tatum do playgood defense, good good defenders,
they're not bad. Brown is betterdefender than Tatum is. But I mean
even if you put Tatum, ifyou if you put Brown on Kyrie,
it's a good it's a good matchupall around, because even for the big
man, you got Horford. HopefullyPersica is playing Game one, he's rub
to play. It's a good matchupall across the board. Point guard you

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got Drew versus Luca, right andat the two you got Brown versus Kyrie,
which is gonna be a great matchup. Can't wait for to see that.
PJ Washington, that's gonna be agood one. PJ is because he
is a good defender, so hegot linked on to so we'll see how
that's gonna Matt that's gonna matter.Even Jones Junior is a great defender too.
That is a nice Defender's another threeD that Taylum Washington is gonna It's

(20:11):
gonna matter for the whole series.It's gonna be important. I don't see
nobody in the in the that thatcan card Gafford in the middle. Don't
sleep her. Hordford's old but couldplay d can't do it if we can't,
If we body Rudy, ify Rudy, if everybody Rudy go Beart Lively
and Gafford. I don't see,I don't I don't see. I don't
see the just being it's gonna befifteen to ten easy for both of them.

(20:33):
Easy. It's tough man. Thelove love after love after love after
love from Luke and Carrie. Watchit's gonna be crazy watching it takes so
I guarantee you Lively Lively, we'llsee, we'll see. Not for nothing.
Since his mom died of cancer,God bless killing it so lively.
I didn't know that matter of fact, like it was like March really still

(20:53):
the NBA so crazy heard about Gordonwas there. That's recent too, to
god, his brother his brother drewthe way, what was it for?
I know I read it. Thatsucks, but I mean lively some reason.
He's he's like an animal man.He just love that these are he's

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he's gonna be the center for themarriage for years and years to come.
Me I hope no marriage. Neverget rid of that dude. He has
a he's definitely definitely a good pay. Every time he done it, he
yells like super loud and gets hegets pumped up the rookie j When he
done that, he yelled at townface like yeah seven seven even seven even
I see athletics like that is insane. Man's wild and Duke. I like

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him because he could shoot. Hewas behind the shooting. He had shot
one three this year, not one, not one. Jason Kids said you're
not allowed to shoot. He stayedin the middle of the whole season.
He was a beast. They puthim numbers though, put up numbers.
Jayson told him, Jayson just kidtold him, you cannot shoot. Yeah,
he can't shoot. But the thinghe has a shot. When you
watching Duke kin lights, he's behindthe three shoot like this crazy. But

(22:02):
Jason, we can't shoot for theboss's side. Do you guys think they're
gonna do damage? And they havea deeper I think they have a deeper
bench. Dallas, it's gonna begood man in my opinion, James Brown,
and they're gonna get it in theirprime. They're gonna get it in
there playing at a high level rightnow. But they definitely just those two

(22:22):
are another runner for the best backcardingleague. I think their best pick up
when he but the best pick upin my opinion, what they picked up
was k P Andrew Holliday. Thatwas that brought the defense to another level.
Drew was a good pick up andthey be they be everybody want with

(22:44):
KP. Right the whole time,right will be Indiana without k p R
k p K he played. That'sthe first round, the last round,
last round, yeah, k nogame, no games? Do they need
him? A You're gonna need himnow. They were't get it because you
have more You guys have more size. Dallas has more size than Indiana because

(23:06):
Indiana has just mouth Turner and hejust disappeared off the face of the earth.
I don't know what you're doing.Killed. I faced a couple of
parlays with Myles Turner. He failedme every single time. I hate him.
Destroyed the Boston in the middle withMyles Turner. They should have destroyed
they should have without without KP.Is just Horford? How you not you
know Horford gets injured. Let's saythe first game was Boston gonna do.

(23:30):
It's gonna be a good season.Seven and I don't see six for sure.
Dallas side, I don't know.Dallas is gonna take Game two.
That is gonna that is gonna betaking back hope for a vintage in game
two. Watch there's something about Dallas. I think they took away home king

(23:52):
advantage on every series. They tookit from l A. They took him
from okay see, and he tookit from Minnesota all game twos, every
game too, except for Minnesota.We won first the first three l A
l A won the Clippers. Dallaswon the first game from the first game
okay see, okay see when thefirst game blews out. We took it
the second game in Minnesota. Wewon the first three two in Minnesota,

(24:15):
then won of Dallas. I thinkDallas takes the first game versus Boston and
then Boston readjusted. It makes somechanges. Just the fact that we got
there. It's hard to stop.Tatum and Brown did didn't take over game
two. Will be happy the factthat we got there because last year we
didn't even make the playoffs. It'sa big turnaround. It's a big turn
from not making the playoffs to inthe finals. And all we did was

(24:37):
add three more players Lively Gaver inWashington and that was it. Jones and
Boston lost to Miami last year inthe East Finals. Remember Correst, but
Jimmy Butter was on his was onthis game. Jimmy Butrother was killing him.
But then they had Kpi or Drew. Yeah, they're better now.

(24:57):
They're better now. So it's gonnabe a good series. I like it.
It's gonna be entertaining. This onemakes me more nervous than anything because
it's Tatum and Brown. Those dudes, they were like top ten and scoring.
The thing. What I'm saying thatit's gonna go at least six.
You got four players are in thetop ten and scoring all year. Yeah,
there's no way it goes less thansix either way. It's gonna go

(25:18):
six or seven. Because when boyBrown and Tatum are on, they're on
and you're just no stopping them.It's it's hard to but it's hard.
There's something about when Dallas goes home. It's a problem. Dudes can't play
in Dallas. Man, it's hardwhen Dallas goes home. And I think
it's Luka is one of the bestcrowds in the whole league. And then
when when we went to Minnesota andLucas said the tone he dropped, he

(25:41):
dropped four, two three pointers ina row, a couple of floaters in
the three and twenty points in thefirst quarter in Minnesota. The crowd took
them all out of it, Minnesotanot leaving that game at all. Once.
Yeah, once it's over, it'sa Lee, it's hard. It's
hard to come back from that.Man was trying to bring them back.
Go Bear, trying to bring themback edwards, trying to bring him back.
They were, they were down fifteenand then next thing, I said,

(26:03):
half times we're all by twenty nine. Say yeah, that's I saw.
I forgot what I was doing.But I saw the half time scoring.
I was, I'm not even gonnawatch. It's it's over. What's
what's the point of watching. Iwas watching. I watched the whole beginning,
and as soon as I saw Lucagoing, I was like, it's
over. Yeah. When I finallylocked in, I was, but watched
this game. It was a blow. I was like, I'll watch something
else. I'm gonna rewatch you nowX men or something. I don't know

(26:27):
what the hell I did, butit took the extra early sleep or whatever.
It's gonna be good. It's gonnabe a good series. You think
lucagainst MVP for the playoffs or finals, MVP, it's him versus Kyrie.
Kyrie. The thing is, thedude has not he has he has,
he's playing better right now, He'she didn't show up in the Okay,

(26:48):
see the series they had a lotof younger guards. That's what it is.
He showed up versus the Clippers.He definitely showed up against Minnesota,
Yeah he did. I mean ifthey both go over and they did on
the thirty six and thirty six,and they both go off, it'll be
hard, or maybe they'll just giveit to look just the precedents, just
because look at Kyrie just wants toget another one. I think Kyrie would

(27:10):
love to beat Boston so that hesaw the interview with him and Scott Vampelt.
He's like, I don't know ifyou really want to do it,
but I want to talk about itbecause the last time we can talk to
you about it, you're going againstBoston. How does that feel? So
Kyrie played it off. Yeah,he played it off. I don't think
he really wants to go into it. You didn't have a bad time in

(27:30):
Boston. He did in Brooklyn,though. I think his time in Boston
was worse because he promised them foryears, half a year, something like
that. I know, no,I think it's long of that. But
in Boston he had promised them,hey, I'm coming back next year,
and that very next off season hewas gone. He was like he didn't
even resign nothing. So Boston fansdefinitely hate him right now. I saw

(27:56):
a post where, you know,they said, the NBA scriptwriters have gotten
better. You got kp going backto Dallas, got Kyrie going back to
Boston with you know, his people. He was mentoring Tatum and Brown.
But the way the way he's theway Kyrie's mentoring in our locker room now,
because he's been in been in thefinals four times. No, he's

(28:18):
I don't know that he's hold.He's not with Cleveland twice, right,
yeah, yeah, Cleveland twice.Who else? That's it. He must
have all of them with Cleveland,right, all four it's gotta be,
yeah, all four of Cleveland.And they only won one one three.
This is his fourth trip three withCleveland to two loss and one win,

(28:38):
two loss and one win. Yeah, the amazing three one comeback, that's
what it was. That's the onewin. We hit that three over stephand
Clay one two they're breaking. They'reprobably gonna have Drew howday Kyrie, somebody's
got it because he's bigger. Gonnabe Drew or Brown. One one was
gonna be on Kyrie. Yeah,So that leaves Luca to trying to pick

(28:59):
up slight. I can, youknow, dominate the game because they're gonna
have these tall, lanky guys onKyrie trying to guard them up. What
I would do to go because Bostonis two hours. What I would do
to catch a ticket out? Man, anybody out there, give us some
tickets to go see the game.I would love to. I would love
to see a game. I don'tcare if it's in the last row in
the arena, like in the backbehind the pole. Give me your ticket,

(29:22):
I'll go over. Can imagine whatthose tickets costs? Like six hundred
more? Check that out? Inever loved really, I can't imagine for
those it's gotta be if I imagineover a grand I thought there's anything available.
Busting has a loyal fan base,so I doubt they're given any seats
away. Yeah, it's so theydefinitely have a loyal fan base. You

(29:44):
imagine what on the floor is onthe floor tickets like Donnie wilb Game seven,
Yeah, game Cane. What thatthat ticket cost? That probably was
just a rough guest. Twenty fivehundred, three thousand dollars for one seat.
It's insane for the floor it's gottabe more than that. For the
floor game seven Gota, it's gottabe more than that. Get out of

(30:11):
here. So yeah, if you'rejust joining us, if you just you
know, randomly popped into the podcastat this moment in time, Dallas Boston
the most one of the most unpredictablefinals of all time. Boston had Boston
maybe. I mean a lot ofpeople picked Boston that thought Boston in Denver

(30:33):
for sure, Yeah, for sure, that's what I thought. If I
bet money, I would have betDever. I did I think Minnesota is
gonna make it that far? Excuseme, and I did not think that
was won make it this far.They definitely shocked me, So I mean
shocked. Question that on Boston.Do you think they get this far?
If Jimmy Butler was healthy? Doyou think they could beat Houston because the

(30:56):
friend they got Miami, Because thefact that they got KP and Drew,
they would be there. I don'tknow would but Jimmy Butler man playoffs.
Jimmy is different. He's different,but he one for one it would have
been it would have been maybe six. He's different, but he's not.
They did it last year Man lastyear was last year they did. Gave

(31:22):
vis it was playing good hero wasplaying battle last year that he did this
year. Yeah, they would havewanted it would have been a tougher seriues,
it would have got him tired.So the baby, the baby,
But I wanted. I wanted Bostonto play the next and with Julius great
series. Could you imagine Boston NewYork have been great? Would have been

(31:45):
great for both cities because they getloud New York. I love key was
going for the next to go tothe East Finals because that stadium where they're
on all that same is loud.You could's New York franchise. If you
think that's possible. Man, they'regonna have to kill bridges. They want

(32:06):
to do this whole. They gotto that. To me, it's working,
but it's not because because camp yeswith a better shot, because I
don't can't have a shot the cannext year. There's no reason why they
can't. But design free agent.I don't know. There's a lot of
freezing this year. But about Durangoing over there, so everybody talking about

(32:29):
Durank whenever Durant thirty five can't stayhealthy. He's a great player, but
that James Harder needs to retire.Harder played good this year. He was
a good distributor, the average highassist. I don't know the exact number,
but his his assist total was itwas up there. He changed his
whole game to play for the Clippers, and that's respectable. But as the

(32:53):
leading scorer now he knows he's notthat No One the whole team. The
only team. The only person that'sgonna be there next year is Kahi.
But they're gonna keep George there.Gonna keep George George. Think about Hardy.
You don't know what you're gonna getwith him, That's what I'm saying.
These games. Remember the first gamehe busted as well? How many
floorids you didn't lame? We're playinghim next, next game? Get like

(33:15):
six points? He is inconsistent now, yeah, for sure? Is it?
He looks He looks out of shad. They just resigned Tyron a little
too to an extension. Yeah,and I don't. I don't Tyron lose
a good coach. Hasn't worked outwith Kawhi and Paul George. Why do
you still keep Paul George there?Hasn't worked. Paul George linked to the
Sixers. He's linked to the nextWe'll see what happens the Sixers. That's

(33:38):
a good squad that that'd be good. Paul George is a good playoff No,
he's not a good playoff player.Not the stats. Look the stats.
He was never I don't know whoshe was that playoff craft Connord playoff
play is wild. But if youlook at the stats, he has equal
stats to have the check equals statsto uh believe Bird and somebody else.

(34:01):
I saw it the other day,maybe when he was in OKC in Indiana.
But his career, his career career, not just Clipper time, not
one was the worst. I hatewhy he needs to retire. He can
never stay healthy. You know heneeds that. He needs to retire.
He just needs to get healthy andjust stay healthy. The NBA season is

(34:22):
brutal, longer than Brendan Roy.But he's just like Brendon Roy. His
knees are a problems, are aproblem. That Roy was definitely an injury
played. That was one of thebiggest what ifs in history for me.
For me as the Blazersawhi would haveplayed that whole series probably would have went
to seven. We probably would havelost if he was one hundred healthy most

(34:42):
likely. Plus it didn't help thewestbrook was off his game too. That's
another that was an assumption that goingin, he's how I was healthy.
You guys gonna get beat. He'sanother one needs to retire. West brother.
Why is a perfect six man?Yeah, Lou Wood's gonna past so
many years or us gonna aast.Somebody got that explosive this Lou Williams that

(35:02):
that dude can get from anyone abucket regard him. When he was worried
about something, Shoot, that's thegame. If Russ is in the game,
you him shoot. If he's hitting, you live with it because he
ain't gonna always hit. He's yourenergy. Brooks is his worst enemy,

(35:27):
you know what I mean? Theguy, the guy, he got the
skills, but he just he can'tshoot and save his life. To me,
I think his worst he's a mentalcase. I don't see that no
more. I don't see that nomore for what he used to be in
Okay, see, well yeah he'sdon't forget he's missing trip with double But
I just don't. I just thinkbut he got that, he got that

(35:50):
title. I just think he's amental case. He's a mental case man.
He's very very emotional, very emotionalplayer. You can easily get in
his head. For sure. DoublesLuca, he has an average the triple
double for a year though this yearwas thirty four ninety nine and these thing
is you know, you know,you actually know it's messed up. Westbrook

(36:13):
only average it was it was,it was it was twenty seven, ten
and ten, something like that.When he won the MVP, his team
was in the eighth seed and hewon MVP of the Year of the year
because nobody doesn't make average, becausenobody averaged and they got That was the
first round in like sixty years.But Luca did sixty and Luca didn't win
the MVP. The league is scoringnine to nine, that's what. That's

(36:37):
fine, horrible they should have Ithink I should have been Shay and then
Luca and then Jokic. If anybodyshould have done Jason Tatum, then he
had the best record in the league. Had It's not always my best record.
Most likely is because sometimes sometimes JokaJokic got it and Shay had a
better They had a better record andhe had a better season headed Yoka winning.

(37:00):
I don't know I don't understand howpeople who voted it should have been
Shade or Luca either one. Iagree it should have been Shae, then
Luca, thenk I could I couldsee that to find how how how Yoki
won it over Shad. But thereason why Westbrook wanted that one year and

(37:20):
has been nothing crazier since then isbecause it was a triple double. Nobody
did that fifty years, so everybodywas amazed by it. The next year,
where did he finish The next year? I think he did another triple
double, but he finished fifth theMVP voting. All Right, you could
do it. Yeah you you're atriple double guy, but you have the
MVP. Man, they made theplayoffs. I think I don't know how

(37:44):
he was screwing like that brow.That's funny because I was saying the same
thing and the same watched him playsanother one, very heavy footing moves.
Yeah he could. The game comesto him. He doesn't go to like
the speed of everybody else. He'sjust like, all right, this is
what I'm gonna do. You can'tstop it. I would have scored it,
But what the way he shoots?You would think, why is the

(38:05):
onody blocking that shot. It's soslow, Like I see these guys getting
like like tips tips and he's shootingover them. You know what I think.
I just think he has a goodit's over it's the overseas and he
knows the position were to be misteroverseas man the overseas. He's like,
yo, look at his shot.Everybody's like a block. Look looking.

(38:27):
Shot is like over his head,over his head. It's like this,
it's like, you know, overhis head and it goes in set over
the step overseas. Playing him didn'thard. I don't know how they make
that. So Luca was playing withgirl man he was twelve. Yeah,
I heard about that. So that'slike play How does he twenty five twenty
five? He's playing professional basketball forthirteen years, guys, feeling himself and

(38:50):
he won the championship? Was aUFC three or two going on? Right?
Now? Come on, how's that? How's that slip looking? Cawan?
How's the slip looking? How's thatpart? Like? Look, I
got another one, got another one? Superstars are out for three zero two
USC three or two. You guysknow, I'm not a big UFC fan,
but it's fun to put a slipin you know, see who you

(39:12):
know, which fight you know distance, which fight is quick over knockout ko.
Absolutely, it's exciting. I'm nota big UFC person, but it's
definitely exciting to just even watch it. But you know, hanging out with
somebody who loves it like you,it's kind of cool. I get interested
in it, but that's as faras it goes. Once you leave,
I'll be like a UFC is whatever. It's money made if you know what

(39:36):
you're doing. Sure, speaking ofreal quick before we dive into something else.
W n B A man, yougotta bet, gotta bet be hitting.
I'll tell you guys offline before westarted the podcast. But hitting some
Kitlyn Clark props. Man, I'mhitting, you know, three threes a
game, twenty points and them tolose. But I make I make the

(39:58):
slips a little too long, soI add other things to and I lose.
But all the ones with it,with her in it, I've been
hitting like at least ninety percent ofthem. So if I do them separately,
just her and just to hit twentypoints, just to hit her three
threes, just to hit you know, I picked the other team away because
her team is absolutely terrible. Yeah, I got a buddy he actually plays

(40:22):
well. He don't play, butyeah, Joanna man, he's been he's
been doing it's bed. I thinkif I just kept her at the Connecticut
son I'd be good. Women's defeatedwoman to me, no direspect the woman.
I feel like women's athletic just likemen. But I just women's basketball

(40:44):
to me is just trash. Whybecause I think it's the opposite. If
you watch, they're getting better,They're getting they're getting getting better, you
know, are shooting or shooting likemen. Some some of the girls.
Yea, I was was. Igrew up watching NBA. I grew up
watching Magic Spinny Hardaway, Georgia oryou know, like, I just can't

(41:07):
watch a woman with me personally hoppingaround with me personally. I can't watch
them unless unlets's just you kin women, that's one of the basketball women that
can watch them. Unless women's basketballin college. I can't sit there and
watch a Connecticut Suns game. Welet's stay the championship or something, and
I'll sit there and watch it.But I won't sit there. Let me
let me see we watch Klon CaitlinClark just not gonna do it. It's

(41:29):
interesting. But why is because it'swomen. I'm honestly trying to find out
what i see it from a differentperspective because I'm not a big Draymond fan.
But when he said on a podcastor somebody show years ago, all
right, I'm watching, he madea point because if you watch women's basketball,

(41:51):
that's how basketball is supposed to beplayed. There's no one on ones,
there's no io play. This plays, there's team basketball, there's passing,
there's you know, four to fivepasses per possession. They're gonna try
and get open shot because that's howbasketball is supposed to be played. Because
they don't have people like Lebron Jamesand stars like that. Can't you can't

(42:12):
compare that, you can, it'shard to compare that, But imagine you
had somebody. So if you're true, if you have a person like Lebron
j n W NBA, see alot of eye solds and there's a lot
of eye shows. I don't wantto doubt look at anybody like that.
But if you truly love the gameof basketball and how it's played, just
them running plays, running screens andpick and rolls and you know, five

(42:36):
passes per possession. That's basketball.That's how it's supposed to be played.
And it's good to see. It'sawesome. It's getting good, getting more
popular, you know what. Meyou know, you know my problem is,
I think I'm gonna be honest withyou. My problem is watching w
n b A or COS women Collgebasketball women's. I think it's very I

(42:58):
think it's very amateur, but asbut you can learn off it watching it.
But me, I like to seea little bit of excitement, like
a little bit of less you know, I mean, let me let me
see you drive hard and yeah on, somebody, let me see you.
I mean game. Hear what you'resaying. But think about that. The

(43:20):
reason why they get paid when theyget paid, right, you're not gonna
get paid lebrons, everybody we shouldget paid a fair amount. But you're
not. You're not w A players. You're not like the players going to
elite w players. I can score, you want to score. It goes
like for me, it's it's like, you know, like when you watch

(43:43):
the NBA, just want to seeblocks, and I want to watch w
w n A game. You're notamateur. You're not gonna get a dunk,
very serious blocks, score, alot of high picked rolls, a
lot of high screens, very amateur. So don't get me wrong, the
amateurs, it's just they want pay, they want they can't get a copy.

(44:07):
I'm sorry, you gotta get theyou gotta hit the viewership. Name
one w M A player. I'mI'm gonna be thorough with it. Name
one NBA player. Name one wM player that called the isole and said,
I'm gonna take this play one onone. The only ones that probably

(44:30):
cross up cash for me, theonly ones I've ever probably ever seen myself.
Maybe there's a couple of more makea catch or you gonna Stewart do
that. She can do that hermore low post. But yeah, I
can see it. You gonna seeit now more with Kate Clark one on

(44:52):
one, I'm gonna step back andhit this three. Yeah, but she's
some of the three she's been taking. She's forcing it, she's kind of
don't get her, trying to findher a way, she's trying to find
her purpose. You know, Ibet you don't remember her sets first year.
Yeah, he was the same thing. Yeah, but he was doing
the same thing, but trying tofind his shot, trying to find his

(45:13):
range, trying to find his rhythm. Everything he does it he does,
but he was trying to find ithis first year. Give her a couple
of years if she can, Ifshe can do the shoot like that and
put like over ten assists on topof that, she'd be nice. She'll
get that. You gotta give hersome time. She gonna get that.
The viewship is what needs to happenfor to get paid better. They're getting
reviews now because of what she's doingfor the game, which is cool,

(45:36):
which is awesome, but don't Iwant every one just one person though it
kind of he's taking away from everybodythey've been putting the time in the league.
Was getting a lot of flat forwhat she said. And I don't
think she was wrong, but shewas wrong. Lebron James at w N
b A. I think so she'sgoing on. I think she's going on

(45:57):
year excuse me, she's the Jordanof the w N She's going to a
year twenty. She has the records, she has the scoring titles, she
has the rings. She got likefour rings something thicke, it's four,
take's three or four whatever? Mayawar never got ready she would she would
have passed, she would have passedmore pursued the other opportunities. But to
is the Michael Jordan w n bA. But w n b A,

(46:19):
it's good basketball. It's basketball howit's supposed to be played. If you
want to watch it, wat gosee the game. It's awesome. The
center defeated. They're undefeated right now. I did. There's six and o,
seven and zero, So his firsttime Connecticut has been undefeated in w
n B A. They're probably stilllosing the first round of playoffs. Hopefully
not. But we'll see the championtwo years ago. Yeah, they lost.

(46:43):
I believe we lost sixth and somethinglike that. Yeah, the fatherly
wins tough. It's awesome, butwe'd love to see a title come home
to Ukon. I want to seethe NBA team coming hard. Next year
is gonna be awesome. Paige Beckerscome out of the Yukon and she's coming
on. Does she stay another year? She stayed another year? Woman this

(47:04):
year because because her first second yeSo yeah, uh got a quick segment.
I want to give you guys quickI like to do now that were
doing this podcast called All All BlitzYou guys know I love drink champs.
They do think called quick time stime. Give you two people to pick,

(47:28):
you gotta pick. If you don'tpick, gotta take a shot. Okay,
I bet take a shot at Arizonaiced Tea for you, Big Jay.
All right, So I'm gonna goDallas first, since they're in the
finals of this What this podcast isabout, this episode is about two players.
Gotta pick one, Dirk or Luca. That's the hard one. Luca

(47:52):
over Dirk. That was easy.That was easy. A different age,
just the just think both they're inthe prime, both playing the game in
the front, in their prime.Ye, that's how you do it.
He's going dirt. No one's goingto him. I'm going Luca in their

(48:13):
primes. Yeah, I got Lukaluk at could drive, Luca can hit
the three. No one ever blockedpost. Nobody ever blocked dirt shot ever.
I haven't seen anybody block Lucas shot. I've seen it. Tal did
it in the last game to Shadto on a drive on on on the
drive. I haven't seen Hillard threeagain blocked too. I've seen them more
than never. I've never seen dirtshot and block ever ever. But that's

(48:36):
not the reason to choose Dirk.Over look at him when he was in
his prime. He was his prime. The twenty eleven final says it all.
Run to the Finals says it all. This is nice. I think
if Luka gets this one, he'sa better man than Dirk if he gets
this one. But right now,yeah, three, yes, for sure?
All right, Chase a kid,carry over, susy kid jas you

(49:00):
go with the vet. They holdthe place in your heart for that first
time. Jason Kidd sounds like Javi. Kidd was a pure point guard.
Kyrie is not ky can shoot likecrazy. You can't assist that kid did.
And Kidd was a triple double machinebefore Westbrook was. That's all kid
did was get triple doubles. Andhe can reboud. Can't rebound like Jason

(49:21):
Kid can. All right, nextone, Michael Finley, Jason Terry.
That's rough. This is what Ilove. This is what I love about
this game. J T. JT was the beast though he was,
but Filey Philly Philly was always agood scorer, but he was j T

(49:43):
was a better scorer un j T. For sure, Terry, I don't
know Philly Philly is always he alwaysgonna be an all time everick. But
man, Philly could talk to Phillyused to bang on cash, he used,
so yeah, it was good.He was athletic when he first came
out. Now I'm gonna I'm gonnatake a shout on that one, alright,

(50:05):
Alright, that's fair, that's that'sthat's not bad. That's not bad.
I like that, alright. OneTatum Paul Pierce. What if my
boy Robbie Riddles is here right now, he'll call you fucking crazy. Tatum
over Paul Piers, Are you suredon't take a shot on that one opinion?

(50:30):
You know, he's still developing.He has a left Paul Pierce was
six seven yeah, six six sixseven, just around there. Tatum six
six eight long. I feel likeTatum has more moves, more tools.
That's why I don't even I don'teven like Paul Pierce personally. And that's

(50:51):
I think that's kind of that's astretch, way way more athletic. I
feel like clutch wise, maybe PaulPierce had it, you know, but
he knew with spots. But Tatum, and here's the thing, got rings.
You know, even though he wouldplay with Gavin Garnad. He played
with Ray Allen, he got rings. But Tatum, I feel like,

(51:13):
all around in his prime. ButPaul Pierce. I'll take Tatum on my
team if I was a junior,because Tatum gonna get he can drive.
It's not selfish. He can dunkon. You can not selfish for sure.
I mean I think it's all around. He's all around better player.
But Pierce has Probably Paul Pierce wasgood. He was good. I always

(51:34):
told myself, like, how youknow they call him the truth, But
I was like, yo, he'sso slow, you know, but he's
averaging well, he's having like twentyfive. He was, he was he
had a high average. He didn'tknow, but I don't know. I
just always I just think Jason Tatumis better. Jason Tatum has I'm not
gassing him up, but he has. If he continued to do what he's
doing, he has a pedigree tobe in the T Mac era, the

(51:54):
Team Mac. You know, Inoticed in his game he's doing that.
He's doing the fifteen eighteen foot yaefade away, fade away, you know
what I mean. That's team MattKobe stuff. You know, I mean
team Kobe. Uh Like that JasonTatum has potential to be one of them

(52:16):
the elite players in the league.You know what I mean, he does,
he does, He's there, healmost did. I think he I
think he is a superstar already,he's done. He's a household name.
I think superstar sadus is if yourhousehold name, you're good, that's your
superstar. All right. Next,you got porzis Antoine Walker. I'm gonna

(52:38):
go cut. Think about it,think about it, think about it.
Walker put in work. Sometimes Idon't even like Anson Walker. You haven't
think about a character. Kpn't putenough time and still just overall overall,
that's for you, that's for you. I'm gonna go o. KP Okay.

(53:00):
I feel like Anthony Walker was moreof a bully, more physical,
dominant rebounds and you know, butI feel like KP. I forgot.
I feel like KP brings a differenttype of game. You know, he's
he's efficient shooting the three ball.You know, I think he has a
high higher rating in blocks. Youknow, he's more interior presence, he's

(53:22):
more tarian presidents. He's a cleansix eleven is he he was seven seven
one? Okay. I appreciate iton the spot review. That was pretty
awesome. He'd be seven to Ithink, yeah, I got walk war
for Al Horford. This is kindof funny. Walter McCarthy. You don

(53:45):
remember Walt to McCarthy the zero Oh, come on Celtics, Walter McCarthy.
I don't know who that is?What Wat McCarthy, I mean, disrespectful
bro and Walter a basketball player.I don't know who that is. And

(54:05):
Wat McCarthy's pride. He looked likeit was fifty years old. He's one
of those dudes that he looked oldlike Greg Golden. You know who?
You know how I am man.If I don't know what I'm talking about,
I ain't gonna say nothing about it. I don't know. I don't
know who the corrections is seven twoseven to seven. That's tall. He's
the original Web Honestly, I don'tknow he was. He's young, he's

(54:27):
twenty eight. I feel like he'sbeen to leave forever because he was Jerry
Little right. No, No,he wasn't during he was sure. Can
you imagine if if KP was stillin there, we're Broun Saon and de
Calia. Now probably good squad becausethe perils wasn't when he was first year,

(54:50):
he was nice. All right,I got another Maverick one for you
guys. Show married Vince Carter Marion, what yeah, Vince Carter, No
way, no way. He didn'tplay that along with the marriage. Three
years, three years. That's that'sall about. Marion. Marion was no
matter how Marion was a big timehe played with his five years, big

(55:13):
time role player, off the benchand he won a ring. Was his
starter? Who was who was thestarter? And he off the bench when
this cap when Coron Butler was playingMary and he got a ring horrible than
the league. He does one ofthe horrible shots ever. And he was
a great defender. He was,He was a great defender. He was
Marion. I love vis Carter,but Vince Carter in Toronto or Vince Carter

(55:38):
in New Jersey, but not Dallas, not about. He was prime in
Phoenix, in Phoenix, but thenhe got He had a lot of good
years Dallas. He was flight thirtytwo in Phoenix, winning him him Mary
Stamar, Joe Johnson, quin Richison. Oh yeah, absolutely. At one

(55:58):
point he was done. He yeah, everyone does, but is not sixty
five years old. Still like Vincesthe man ain't he one of the oldest
dudes in the league. He hewas, he was one more. Yeah,
as long as tenure. Do youwant Howard thing oldest player like ever

(56:22):
to play like forty eight? Right, He's not. No, he wasn't
playing at forty eight, bro,That's why it's got to be forty two.
He was Edward Howard and the guyfor the Spurs Lebron James Lebron Willis
played to like forty something. NonNate Kickey, Hecky played until he was

(56:45):
forty five years old. Who's who'safter him? Because I don't know who
that is. There's a league somethingfor the Spurs who played for a long
time. I forget his name.I probably butchered it now Haicky. Then
it was, uh, this guyfor the Spurs. What's his name,

(57:06):
Kevin Willis, Kevin Willias, that'sthe name, Kevin. I don't know
what. Twenty years forty six,Yeah, forty six, there you go,
Kevin Willis and Robert Parrish forty four, Jue Howard forty whodonads has was
only forty of the bet has beenin the league forever. It's only forty

(57:27):
two, all right, So acouple more all out blitzed before we go,
before we signed off on this episodeagain, rope, before we keep
going, Dallas and six, that'sI think that's an overall consensus here for
me, Dallas six, That isn'tfine for me. Man, that isn't
five. Give it at least twogames to Boston for Brown and Tatum.

(57:51):
Just five Dallas five. I meanyou're a fan, so that's understandable.
I'm trying to be one thing.What they've shown me so far, I
feel like five. Yeah, fiveteam that did? Do you think?
Do you think Dallas beaver like that? No? That is I would have

(58:13):
went to seven. That's what Iwas hoping to see. I would have
loved to see the seven. Iwould have loved to see Luca. That's
what I was hoping for that Iwas I wanted to see because there because
they're best friends still now. Iwould love to see your and Luca playing
together around with each other. It'sawesome to see. It's very wholesome.
I would love to have seen that, but unfortunately it didn't work. So

(58:40):
that is fine for me. Thatis for you. Okay, what what
you got? What you got?A good series? I can see.
Maybe Dad is getting in six,six, six to seven. That is
the sixth I got. Like Isaid, I'll go five. I won't
be surprised to go more, butI got them in five. Would you

(59:00):
be disappointed if Boston wins? No, I think honestly Boss is the favorite.
I would be shocked if Boston wins. I wouldn't be done. You
better put your money up. Dallasis dog money. I bet Dallas I
want because last year we weren't evenin the playoffs. The fact that we
went through all these good teams andthe number one best record team, number

(59:22):
one in the league team, andthe fact that we got there. Yeah,
I won't be pissed. I'd beI'd be happy. We had a
good season. Just doesn't just meansnext year then to go ahead and after
even harder. So that's gonna berough next year. Everybody come back is
healthy, we'll see, we'll seenext year is well. We got some
more episodes coming for that. Youknow, the draft, the free agency.

(59:43):
You know, there's always that's alwayson deck. But so six all
across the board, except you've beenJay and five hope you what you think?
Oh yeah, that's right, allright? So some more all blitz.
That's what we call it. Oursegment here on the Healthy Podcast.
One for Kawan. Think about thisall right, it's probably easy, probably

(01:00:07):
real easy. So i'mnna give youone real easy first, Lebron Kobe Kobe
that that that was easy. Thatwas easy. You gotta ask, gotta
ask, you gotta ask that yougot for sure? I believe it alright

(01:00:28):
right ready, lamar Odom Anthony Davis, think about it, really think hard,
because Davis he's always injured, buthe's a monster when he's healthy.
So our order was good. Whoyou picking? Who you picking? As

(01:00:51):
a GM, Oh, that's tough. I never I never thought about it
that way. So let's go asa GM with think a d a d
okay back now, as a fan, I know Lam he's a point he's
a point forward. He's one ofthe originals. He's up there, shoots

(01:01:13):
the three ball lefty. He's different. I ain't gonna lie. I saw
I saw a highlight table. Wellhe not from the Britain, but he
was school to Britain for for yearsback in over there on the East Side.
I know, I know somebody Iused to work with that was the
school with him there. It was. It was awesome. It's cool to
over there for to get his gradesup. I forgot he was a Maverick

(01:01:34):
too. He was, he reallywas. He was GM, a d
GM the presence it is going tobring a defense way up as a GM.
I could see that as a fan. I saw a highlight tape of
Hip the other day and I waslike, you know what, that's invaluable
now today, Like his passes,his mid rage game, his post up

(01:01:58):
was so insane. That was thatwas on the point when Derek Fisher was
out. He did that would havehelped the Lakers right now, somebody like
him. They got Lebron, butLebron's older a pride. Lamar Odom would
be monster on the Lakers right now, he's he's underrated. I did like
Lamar Odom. I'm not a Lakersfan, obviously, I'm a Blazers fan.

(01:02:20):
Lakers my mortal enemies. But Lamarwas a beast. He was good.
He got three rings right and Lamarno. Two. I think he
had too with the Lakers. Hewas on with Shack and with Shack and
Waite. No, I don't thinkhe was on that. I think he
was on the Clippers on that.You gotta look that up. I don't
know, he might he might havebeen on that winning I know for you,

(01:02:43):
well, well big J looks thatup. I don't know. For
you. You're a Laker fan.So think about it. Nick Man exel
Derek Fisher. You're right, mM nick Man exl Derek Fisher. What
you got that's not bad? Like? That's good? Like Nick actual had

(01:03:07):
yet Yeah, better was a monsteroverall. Yeah, overall better skills than
Nick than Derek. Thinking about DerrickFisher, he was a he was a
set up shooter and you leave himopen. He's a fucking sniper. He's
a sniper, definitely. He DerekFisher's sucking clutch when it comes to Derrick
Fisher, more people making pay yourtaxes, leave him open, you know

(01:03:31):
what I mean. Next, wasthe only one in the NBA history to
to shoot his free throws a footbehind the line. Yeah, but actually
had that was crazy behind the line. But Fisher he played the position and
you leave him open the lefty andhe'll dagger it, you know, I
mean, not super athletic, butyou leave him open, he'll make you
pay that bad So who you gowith? Overall? Bad player? Who

(01:03:57):
you pick it as a fan,as a as a well, because you
can't forget watching more Derek Fisher.You can't forget zero point for I grew
up watching Fisher when I grew upLakers. I'm a Lakers fan. The
only people in the Lakers that thathave been clutched for me was Derek Fisher,
Robert Horry, and Kobe Bryant.That those are those the Lakers that

(01:04:17):
I grew up in watching. Themother was clutch. Clutch, I know,
because Kobe gotta get winning versus Portland. Derek Fish. I don't know
how much rings he got the pain, but you know them guys are clutch.
All you got Robert or Divac wasthe Laker before. Come on,

(01:04:45):
man, that ain't no question.That's easy, clean stretch for man.
Make you pay. Man was knownfor his sacramental ty. He's not La
days, but he had good lA d He had better Sacramento days.
He was good. Divit was thebeast man. People sleep on him.

(01:05:10):
Was good just in Sacramento his lA day's here. Slept on he was.
He was. He was pretty good, all right. So I got
a couple more for Dallas, Acouple more then we're gonna sign off here.
So we got mhm Josh Howard,right, Derek Jones, John to

(01:05:33):
keep him a little bit more relevant, Josh Howard Derek Jones overall, don't
think about just now because during thefinals, even though Derek Jones is doing
a phenomenal job right now, JoshHoward is Derreck Jones. But he was
taller, he had taller how JoshHoward the guy would rather Marky's Daniels.

(01:05:59):
He's definitely about Jones. He hehe, he could score more around the
bucket than uh than Jorde Jones came. But Jay Jones has a better shot.
I think I think Josh Josh Howardhad a better defense too. Remember
that dude, I don't know wherehe went, but he fell off the
face of the earth. But Ithink it like I picked Josh Howard,

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all right, I have to seethat there's a tough one for you.
You ready, it's a tough one. You might have to take a shot,
like a real shot. You can'tpick JJ B jenen Brussel, JJ
what the way, the way thereason why I'm saying that that dude's heart

(01:06:46):
was bigger than his body. Man, Dude, that dude, if you,
like I said, we watched thewhole twenty eleven run. We wouldn't
have won if it wasn't for him. We wouldn't have wonder if it wasn't
for him. He yeah, easy, the way he the way he dominated
the inside the paint of the ofthe heat, and well, just proves
it all the way. Andrew Bindapush him in mid air or we were

(01:07:08):
sweeping the Lakers, remember that.I remember that you wanted to push him
in mid air and frustraight to thefloor. Yeah, it was going up
for a lamp. Andrew body knewhe was going up. He pushed them
straight to the floor. We wererocking. We were sweeping the two ton
defending champs. We're rocking and sendingthem home. Three zero four it was

(01:07:30):
three zero We were on our floor. We were beating them by We want
to send them on, we're sleepingthem. We sent them home. It
was the fourth quarner and he that'swhen Oldam decided to push Dirk. And
that's when by them decided to pushJJ Bray in mid air. I remember
that that file because he was goingup J. J Bray all day,
so you just missed it. Iasked Big Jay, I did a tough

(01:07:50):
one so on it so far itwas all all blitz. One of the
the seconds to do here on theHefty podcast. J Broughton, who would
you take Jenny Brunson, J SeeI say that that's that's a tough one
man. Don't get me wrong.Jaj Barrero for his size was six feet

(01:08:13):
six one. He might have beenlike five eleven. Honestly, yeah,
he was. He was, hewas. He was a bulldog. Yeah,
he had a lot of heart.But Brunson, I don't know that
guy for me being six two sixtyone whatever he is, I don't see
nobody more efficient for his size.That's that got the keys to a franchise.

(01:08:39):
Brunson. He became that guy youknow was right now he isa was
a good, efficient three point shooterand he was very he was very.
He was he was a pit bull. He was Yeah, he's a five.
He was a pit bull. Hewas definitely sure he was a pit
bull. But the getting into thepain he made it seemed like he was

(01:09:00):
six three. Yeah, it wasa pit bull. But make no mistake,
Bronson, way better score is gonnabe a problem for years and years
to come already, but I takeI take Burrill all day just because the
heart man, his heart has I'lltake him aout that just because the monster.

(01:09:24):
You know you kind of buyas becauseyou know you're a Magic fan.
You know for sure? For surethat definitely that takes me me being if
I was a billionaire or a millionaire, if I want to vest in the
GM, Brunton over j anybody,E say it? You know overall I
got the better skills, yes,but for heart I would get that.
What if you didn't know what Bruncewas capable of or dig was capable of?

(01:09:45):
Who what are you judge? Wouldyou pick just a college career?
Would you pick Bronson because you won'twant to be an over Yeah for sure,
that's probably sure. Yeah, Butif you're talking to actual skills,
brust is definitely all day. Bruntonhas the skills. Yeah, for hard
and non stop motor. That's Barreaall day. Like he didn't stop.

(01:10:06):
That's like J. J. Wattthe NFL. He didn't stop. He
doesn't stop. He's always you know, is another one. He's another one
like Luca not super athletics, veryefficient. When he gets don the range,
he plays his game. He doesn'tlet the game come to him.
He takes it to the game likecompared to like guys like Restbrook, Dereck

(01:10:27):
Rose was doing big man dunks likeHe's not that type of guy. He's
more of an efficient player. Bruntonreminds me a lot, a lot of
Tony Parker. I think he's betterTony Parker. They can score, You'll
never see him dumb than never gonnabe flashy, and they can score from
everywhere. I think he's better thanTony Parker. Parker is the man I'm
not taking away from him overall.Brea, I'm sorry, brunt It has

(01:10:54):
more skills, a better three point, he has better dribble. Tony Parker
has got into the land whatever hewanted for me. Brunce is a guy
that you know if you're if you'rea point guard and you're six one six
two, you could relate to himcompared to someone like Derek Rose in his
prime. Think of the point guardsto the point guards now Bronton, he

(01:11:15):
can't be the twenty park twenty parkguard he did assists that's like picking Steve
Nashal Brunton, who was picking SteveNash. He could shoot and he consists
like crazy and he could pass that. His passes were nuts. But right
now you got Steph. Stephan isthe point guard. But he can you
can score, he can't assist likethat cool Steph. Steph could pass,

(01:11:36):
but he's crazy. He can't passthat. The best point guard, he
can't. He can't pass how babyand Nash and kid he used to do
back in the day. Those aretrue good but he can't. But those
are true point guards for sure,like Stephan Marbury. True point guards don't
do Steph. He probably he probablywon the best point guards the lead right

(01:11:57):
now to shoot is he is theboy, my boy? Man. They
convicted him and he's still out here. Man, he's still out here.
Man. Why is Donald Trump walkingout? UFC? Music? Bro?
Why is he in the UFC rightnow? This boy? You know Connecticut?
They yeah, I know that hedon't rep it, But you know,
why is Donald Trump my boy walkingout and white? Bro? That's

(01:12:23):
crazy? That's money that No,that's definitely what he does. Kind of
sucks, is I believe it?No, I believe that. But that's
what money does in this country.Bro. He's he literally got convicted of
a felady thirty four and he's walkedthirty one counts. He's walking out to
the UFC. The music. Bro, my boy Sicilian, my boyfriend,

(01:12:45):
my boy Frank. You know,he went to bus Palm, he went
to He passed by Donald Trump Junior'shouse. Ridiculous dollars. Bro. The
house is insane. Bro just gotconvicted. He lives in the He lives
in Martago, Margo, Florida.Yeah, yeah, Martago insane. Brou

(01:13:09):
convicted thirty four counts of felony,a felony. Still he still he's out
in USC three oh two right now. Hilarious. That's America, so real
quick. Before we before we signedoff on the Hefty Podcast, NBA Finals
Edition, we got a couple morefor All All Blitz. If you guys

(01:13:31):
did a catch it the first timeAll All Blitz, you got a similar
to Drink Champs. I love DrinkChamps. It's called quick time slide.
Picked the two, picked the betterof the two. If you can't pick,
you gotta drink. So we didLakers. We did Dallas all right,
because you guys are a fan ofeach Now we're just going random for
NBA. We'll keep it. We'llkeep it. Basketball, Lou Williams Jamal

(01:13:57):
Crawford. Who that was fast?That was fast, man, I don't
know one of the best six mensever. They both are. They both
are easily is way more clutch theone Jamorrow has put more people on the
floor to anybody, I know.I agree, I agree, I agree.

(01:14:17):
But that easy over Lou will LemonPepper, Lou that fast? Okay,
what you thinking now? You ponderingover there? I see you.
They're both explosive. They both theywere. They're both nice to watch.
They were. I'm gonna have togo with I'm gonna have to go with
Crowford. Man, I'm gonna haveto go Croff too. He was a

(01:14:38):
Blazer for a little bit. Hewas had a good season. That that
that's it. That that was easy. That was easy. I know that's
gonna be tough. That'll be tough. Will's nice though, Yeah, for
real, he came. He camemy high school too, man. I
think he came out in high schooltoo. Did I think he did?

(01:14:59):
Willis came out. I don't remembercollege. A couple of big men.
To finish off the show, KG, Tim Duncan Prime. I'm not talking
about titles and I'm talking of ringsprime Tim Duncan kn't regard that. You
gotta go toim Duncan, though,yeah, you gotta go. You can't

(01:15:23):
remember, you can't count the rings. Just strictly play person. Even even
though had good defense, Duncan hada better defense. Did Duncan could guard
centers? Duncan gard the guard centersI could have maybe don't gonna give a
check more of a problem than Garnettwould, probably because I always had he

(01:15:45):
was better. Yeah, remember toTim Duncan played David Robinson, the Admiral
is a beast he was, butthat was only for two years. Though.
Come on, he had play theleague. You're right, I believe

(01:16:09):
right now, walking home, rightnow, man, Yeah, nobody,
he had a trust pretty well fora little bit. He had Old,
he had Old, he had OldSpree, Well, he had Old Robin.
They was already experienced. They werethey were they were the Mavericks coach

(01:16:30):
Avery Johnson was already experiencing the league. They had they had players over there.
Nobody wolves, man, he ain'tnobody. That a few good squads.
But I agree, KG, ifyou if you take the roster,
rond them into effect. That playeda big role because he had Nobody.

(01:16:53):
Doctor had a lot of good playersaround them and a great monster, but
he didn't was Jim Duncan didn't haveall stars on his on the squad though
it was we had, like yousaid, for one year, I thought
it was. It was role playersBruce Bowe and Nobody and Parker that's all

(01:17:14):
ended up being all stars role players. They ended up being All Stars.
So who's an all Star that Idon't know? With plays beside May Honestly
Marbury Serbia play would have that,right? No? I didn't. I
did that was after Who was it? Marbury? Yeah, Barbary, you

(01:17:36):
got Derbi, you got Sam Cassell, you got Okeny was the trash he
was there. He was on theClippers first Marcus Can Marcus, he wasn't
there. Definitely Towers bro played fromthe almost. I remember this dude Dion

(01:17:57):
from high school. He was usuallyfor He had all over Candy jersey sit
behind him home room. He hadall over Candy Minnesota. Really, why
why get it all? Did Iremember in the Hall of Fame? No,
he's not, but the I fromhigh school? How would you buy

(01:18:19):
all over Candie jersey and not aKG jersey that he had he had a
KG said he was the only Minnesotafan I knew. I remember, I
think I remember this, I do. Yeah, he had he had braces,
he had braces. Yeah, Iremember, I remember, funny dude,
he played ball. I feel likeKG was a little better in my

(01:18:40):
opinion overall skills, I would say, yeah, but I feel like I
feel like KG was. He wasin a shitty franchise. Sh was if
you if you put KG with sanAntonio Man, I think those you upro
KG has free well because they didgo to the West Finals. Who they
who? They were? The freakingLakers. Yeah, but Kobe, so

(01:19:05):
KG for you. I'm gonna takmy boy the Black Log with KG Man,
Big Jay d t v D.You can't go wrong with tv D
Man because he was unstoppable. Thatbackboard shot, he perfected that thing.
Man all right, Last one beforewe get off, Last one before we

(01:19:27):
get off. Nb A podcast,NBA Finals podcast. It's getting late for
us here, but last one allour blitz. Chris Webber Wallace, you
know what, I thought you weregonna go Weeb. Everybody thought you gonna

(01:19:48):
go web Honestly, Weber was goodand he didn't he didn't really have a
chance to shine or anything like that. His squad was good. Let me.
They went to the finals a lotwith with the Lakers, back and
forth, back and forth in theWest Finals. But Wallace Wallace. Wallace
had defense and he had a shotfrom the outside. Weber Webert never had

(01:20:11):
that shot from the outside like Wallacedid. They did it? Come on
what you say? That's a goodcomparison. That's a good one, right.
I love that one because I knowwhat I'm doing. Question. Yeah,
I know what I'm going for megrowing up, I'm gonna say something
crazy after So go ahead watching WeberBaby, the Lakers and Rashee Wallace.

(01:20:32):
I'm probably go with Wallas because theLake the Pistons, they actually beat the
Lakers and they had the same typeof style. Weber was very efficient in
the mid range and uh, RasheeWallace was very efficient in the mid range.
And uh, I feel like Wallawas if he got his act together,
I feel like he had more toolsthan Chris Weber. He did.

(01:20:56):
He Actually he's a fletch four thatthat leads to what I show. So
and actually the Lakers that they couldlost to the Pistons, they gave us
hell because of Rachid Wallace. Theygave us almost possia the ben Wallace being
a strong anchor, which Ham hadcome off them screen curls. You know
she was unguardable. Good point shethat that that season. Yeah, I

(01:21:21):
think for me obviously Wallace, Idon't have a brailest fan forever. She
was my favorite power for whatever Msay something crazy, I think as a
GM, I'll be Weber though.As a GM, okay, I can
see that because of the head,the way more efficient. It's way more
efficient. You know, never hada conversation with them both before I drafted

(01:21:45):
them. Webern't weber all day?Who would have Fever would have took me
to a state house and another whereshe would have bro Look. I put
them in a category. Don't laughat me, but I put him the
same category as Ronner tests and DennisRoman. Westbrook. Yeah, okay,
Westbrook wasn't that bad. Was notthat bad. She was was a mental

(01:22:11):
case. He was. I'm tellingyou, I tell people this all the
time. I'm a Rashid fan,right me. Personally, out of all
those guys in that era, he'smore talented than all of them. His
talent, he's more talented. TimDuncan more talented than O KG more Talian
Weber and Dirk Rachid could drive tothe basket. Rashid could post up,

(01:22:38):
but she could post, he couldshoot threes, and he could play defense.
Each If you go back to eachevery one of those part forwards,
there's something that they can't do.He did all of them well. He
never averaged over a game. Checkit out. I think he did.
Look up. If he did,it was like twenty point five. He
could shoot, he could guard,he could drive, and he could defend.

(01:23:00):
Each one of those power forwards thatI just named. There's something that
they can't do out of that forthose four players. So if he had
his head on straight, he's definitelygetting titles than everybody else. I think
he has more rings. He mayhave three or four. I'm not gonna
say five like Tim Duncan got,but he might have three or four.

(01:23:24):
What was his time what was thehighest? Look it up? Yeah,
look it out. You were talkingshit, you gotta look it up.
Gotta look it up. I'm almostpositive he had at least twenty per game.
When he's focused. She was aproblem man. He was. He
was really good people see that hecould dunk. It was like Blake Griffin

(01:23:46):
with the dunks. Not as athletic, but he was just as good.
Here's a beast. What is hisaverage best ones? I want to go
twenty point five, twenty one,nineteen point four. I was close.
I was close. I was closed. That's not bad. Well, I

(01:24:06):
told you whatever person, I thinkhe's born. I want to see if
you have over twenty points in theseason. I guy's career stands right,
Okay, I want to see that. Let's see what you come up with.
I'll say I know Dirk did it. I know Weber did it.

(01:24:28):
Okay, you did that. Idon't Duck did it. But again,
they had better colture, they hadbetter I don't say a squad. This
is one, two, three,four, five, six, seven,
eight nine time, eleven, seventeenyears in the league. Uh huh.
These are his points per game.When I just screenshot it to you,
I believe you. Ten point one, fifteen point one, fourteen point six,

(01:24:53):
twelve point eight, sixteen point four, nineteen point two, nineteen point
three, eighteen point one, sixteenfourteen five, fifteen one, twelve three,
twelve seven, twelve, nine andseven. Never average over twenty points.
What's your point. Like guys said, you never averaged twenty. I
don't care what you're saying. Istill honestly still stay by my statement.

(01:25:18):
Overall, he was more talented thanthose guys, but his head wasn't on
straight. He had better The otherguys had better coaching for sure to start
their careers off. It is whatit is. It's all right. I'll
take that. So appreciate you guyshanging out with us today. If you
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(01:26:11):
you coming through. Of course,it's gonna be future episodes we're doing.
You know, we're doing a tonthis year for episodes. We got a
lot coming. Before we sign off, gotta give a big shout out to
an r extraordinary M eighty. Igot M eighty on the podcast this coming
Friday, June seventh, Big interview. I appreciate him showing love to the

(01:26:35):
Hefty Podcast. It's gonna be good. He's done work with DMX, He's
done work with Cannabis Cheatdoxssel, He'sdone work with Mob Deep, he's done
work with the new Dog Pound album. He's done work with Snoop. He's
got a new rock Him album comingout later this year in July. I
want to say the twenty six.He's got a cheating What's album coming through.

(01:26:58):
It's gonna be a huge interview.Can't wait. June seventh, m
eighty. It's gonna be awesome.Man, can't wait for them. Thank
you for joining the I J Forceto have it because Big J's in the
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Much love to Big J in thebuilding. Much love to Kaiwana the building.

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Until next time Later