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Episode Transcript

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Instagram. Yeah, that's nice.It's live on YouTube. Welcome Hefty Podcasts.
How you guys doing out there?Nice? The first video cast for
my podcast. I usually do strictlyaudio, so this is the first and

(00:21):
I appreciated it being my guest tonight, being the first guest on the live
on the live cast. How areyou doing, sir? I'm good.
I need it. I'm all right, man, I've been that sinicipating this
day for about a few weeks.Awesome. I'm glad we actually connected and
got gotta get this done because Ihave so many questions and I like to

(00:43):
learn stuff. So the main themain gist of the podcast is I like
to talk to people who have differentinterest in life, different views in life
and doing different things. So Ilike to learn. I'm a generalist and
just you know, tell me,give me information. I have to learn,
like people have to saying this.I went to Mercedes recently to have
a schedule a maintenance done on themayback and there was a sales not because

(01:10):
what year is your mayback? Isaid at twenty twenty two. He's like,
ah, that's nothing. I shouldput you in one of these new
twenty twenty fours. I said,hey, man, have you ever had
four chicks up your dick? Atthe same time he said no, I
said, don't talk to me Jesus, and that's how we played. I
have the podcast with e Nights.Oh that's freaking awesome. Thank you again.

(01:33):
I appreciate you being here, man, it's awesome. Appreciate it.
So, man, I'll given mygame and that's awesome. We're gonna get
into that a little bit later.I remember. So I wrote some notes
down and stuff, some questions andstuff to get into. But real quick,
real simple. How's the family life. I don't know if that's your
first born. I've seen follow bornand she turns two on Sunday. We

(01:55):
Birkeley party tomorrow. You just getthe house order? Nice? How did
that life? It's awesome. Iam a napping guy. I've learned to
nap. I don't have a consistentsleep schedule. You know, do you
nap when she naps? That takeadvantage of that. Uh, that's the
recommendation. It doesn't always work outlike that though. Yeah. Niceess Yeah,

(02:16):
yeah, I got three myself,so that that was my thing.
They were napping and I'm home.I can hear her things. My Namey's
not really doing her job. Ohgotta get on it, Come on,
Manny, all right. First things, first, man, congrats on this
new rocking album got coming out.Thank you. Another simple question, how

(02:38):
did that come about? How didRocket come to you? You go to
him like, how did that happen? So in twenty this is I've never
told the story before. In twentyeighteen, when I dropped ghost Face Killer
the Lost Tapes, there's so muchto talk about that album. I think
I think it's the best ghost Facealbum in the past decade. And that's
no slight to ghost or anyone elsethat's made on the records. I just

(02:58):
think, my sh it's the best. That was the first time I made
an album that was only available inlimited edition physicals. Okay, we did
many, you know, many differentissues of it, and we had many
different color variants of vinyls and CDsand cassettes and things of that nature,
you know, But the album livesdigitally online for the world. But it's
like, if you've got say,the Glow in the Dark version of the

(03:22):
vinyl, one of twenty fifty people, if you got the gold edition,
you want to five hundred people andwe're talking about an artist who has a
million fans, you know. Soit's that was the first time I ever
worked at a limited edition product,and I learned that whole game from host
Kingpin. Rock Kim was a fanof the gold s Face album, so
I met with and then there's afamous photo of rock Kim and I both
holding up copies of the album,you know, and I kind of every

(03:44):
time rock Kim comes to town,I'm always, you know, hanging out
with him and shit like that.I've known Raw and as Man as you're
Matt since two thousand and seven.We all met in Vegas when I was
in law school. I was justabout to graduate law school. It's the
first time we met during the pandemic. We broke her to deal with Fat
Beats, and it was supposed tobe for essentially four new songs and three

(04:08):
remixes. The more and more we'dwork on that project, the more it
was developing into such such greater thanlike the model with Fat Beats. We
went from like you know, Premieris going to produce, to Knife Wonder
to Pete Rock to Rock Kim's dibblinand dabbling on the production side to Jazzy

(04:29):
Jeff, who he you know,started touring with very consistently, and I
can tell the world this there willbe a full length Rock Kim and Jazz
Jeff album down the road. Youknow, you know, rise of perfectionists
and obviously a master of his craft, so therefore you can't really put a
time stamp on it. I didn'tthink it was gonna take three four years
to make the Fat Beats project happen. So Fat Beats was being sold and

(04:49):
it just got to the point where, you know, one the original owner
was fed up with me. Wehave a lawsuit going on right now for
this Capadonna's Two Bangers project that they'vepaid us zero dollars for and why of
the fact it's been like Capadana's mostviably commercially successful record in the past decade,
and Rock Kim hadn't really turned inanything. So we end up giving

(05:13):
them the money back for that deal, or or or Rock Kim's management did.
And then I stepped up to theplate like, look, I want
this. I've always wanted this.This is like a dream come true for
me. I don't want like rememberthe Fat Beats dealers, I don't want
three four songs, I want toat least make an EP. So we
agreed on rock Kim producing the entireproject. And you know, it's rock
Kim's on every song. So forfans that are like, oh man,

(05:36):
this is gonna be some bullshit andit's it's not. It's amazing. I
wouldn't say it's the greatest accomplishment ofmy life given the fact that my name
is associated to acts like Eminem andWu Tang Clan and Redman and you know,
you name it, ninety forty thelist goes on and on on DMX.
If this Rock Kim shit really wasn'tall that, I'm extremely proud of

(05:57):
it. Rob literally, as oflast I just finished putting all his touches
on how he wanted it specifically tobe in the world. You know,
we'll get that come July. Buthad it not been for the ghost Face
record and you know, me reallysitting down with them and selling them on
like, look, we don't haveto play by old school rules where we
have to shift five hundred thousand recordsand you know, like really like aim

(06:19):
for the stars, we can makelike I believe on the fiscal side of
things, we're gonna have like seventhousand units, like I expect those to
sell in the first I don't know, thirty days, and then we'll live
on forever. Okay, So we'regonna do you know, there's gonna be

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several different color vinyls. There's gonnabe two different versions of the CD with
the audio is gonna be the same. It's the artwork's gonna be different cassette
version, and that's that, youknow. First with Corrupt and Master Killer,
rock Kim's rapping on the song.Rock Kim did the cuts, rock
Kim produced the beat, other superI mean notable MC's on the ship,

(07:04):
Nipsey Hustle. You know, peopleare like, yo, you got like
four or five dead dudes on here, and I'm like, well, there's
still legends, and there's still youknow, everyone loved rock Kim, and
these were songs that were done organically, and just you know, if it's
not meeting rock Kim's level of professionalismand Bart them, it's not happening.

(07:24):
So we got Prodigy, Rest inPeace, Nipsey also Rest in Peace DMX
and just for those at home,DMX is not rapping. We have one
of the last ever DMX recorded prayerson the project. That was one of
my questions, how did you getyour hands on something like that? I
recorded it, I did, yeah, like me and expert heavy. Okay,

(07:46):
listen. DMX his last ever Instagrampost before he died was for me.
We like, my job was tooffload the last of the tour merch
and that's what sustained the family whilebank accounts were being from was and ship
like that. You know. Itwasn't until Kanye West stepped in with his
Blenciaga DMX shirt, which, bythe way, veryone that knows Dmax he

(08:07):
would have never worn that ship likeDMX was Neveriaga. GMx was like,
give me a fucking Levi overall suit, you know, some dickeys and ship
like that like that was X Yeahfor the Gonsoon's on the joint, you
know. It's it's that's part aboutthis. All the press that I've met

(08:28):
with in the past four weeks andplayed it for him, everyone picks a
different favorite song, and that's whatI love the most. That's what rock
Kim loves the most. Because therewas talks of us taking this one song
off and replacing it, and Iwas like, well, this is this
guy's favorite and he's like, ohdamn, all right, well that band
said we can't, we can't takethat off. So yeah, it's it's
phenomenal. Man. I cannot waitfor the world to digest it. Like

(08:50):
I said, I felt like I'veI've put in a lot of work throughout
the course of my career. We'retwo hundred plus albums in to to get
to where I earned o respect fromrock Cam to have his trust and faith
and make you know, having meas the executive DUSERM behind his product.
And I love I love reading allthe stories online and seeing what people are

(09:11):
saying. And I saw a poston everybody like they're like, this is
the guy that's making the rock Kimalbum And they posted like a video of
me rapping in the year two thousandand one. They're like, he sucks.
I'm like, the two aren't havenothing to do with each other.
How I used to years, howI'm able to and are and executive news
records in the present day are notone of the same, Like, uh,
you people at home can't see it, but my my Instagram people can

(09:35):
see, Like I know what thefuck I'm doing. So I was gonna
get into that your last podcast youmentioned what's your A and R stuff and
the prices you put out for youknow, services you give you put you
sort of put it together a resumeof still. Yeah, it's my working
resume. I I edited about fourtimes a year, once a quarter.

(09:56):
Yeah. Now, what's your favoritething on that resume? For those out
there? My favorite thing, I'llbreak it down to a couple categories me
as the artist, probably breaking againstworld record and doing it for charity,
funding a school in Nigeria because thatmovie will never be relocated amongst any other
artists. You know, they talkabout what rappers really bring to the table

(10:18):
and how they build on the culture. Well, financing a school is a
class act example of building on ahip hop culture. Thousands of students a
year ages i'd say six or seventhrough eighteen go to the school. You
can look it up online bayboard dotorg, b E B o R dot
org and the Baybor River States ofNigeria. As an A and R,

(10:41):
you know, the ghost Face albumis one of my greatest accomplishments because I
fully funded that myself, like Idid the Rock Kymn record, and you
know, it was a different timein twenty eighteen to twenty twenty four and
maybe two different m eighties. Butat the time, I had spent probably
a quarter of my life's worth tomake that record, you know, and

(11:01):
I had to. You know,it's the equivalent of buying like seven bricks
and gramm and grammar and that shipoff like you know, and I can
make that analysis as a former successin the drug game. Oh yeah,
yeah, dude. I bought myfirst car with cash when I was sixteen.

(11:22):
I was the only kid I knewin high school that had stacks,
you know. I had the brickphone, I had the page here.
I did my thing nice. Soyeah, A lot of people don't know
that side either that. Oh no, I mean I'm good time in Walback

(11:43):
correctional Facility. Uh. Someone someoneasked me in my life, why not
build a school in America? BecauseAmerican can afford schools exactly right, like
America, governments in America build schoolsin America. Dude. When I was
a senior in college, my seniorseminar was on the African diaspora and come

(12:05):
to find out to actually fund aschool, it's around twelve thirteen thousand American
dollars. I'm looking down at mywrist while I'm taking notes with my right
hand living out of my left hand. I'm like, damn, my watch
costs more than that, and currentlywaiting to watch that cost five times that.
But but I could do this,I could do something charity on the
school. And it's around thirty grandall in to build the rods, the

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irrigation, to the textbooks, theresources, the staffing. Like to me,
that was nothing like, I'm justgonna wrap for a really long period
of time and people are gonna donatemoney and at the end, I'm gonna
have a school. Like it seemedlike a no brainer. And then of
course everything in my life got better, Like every time I'd get a show
booking, it's for more money becauseI'm wu tang m ad, billboard m

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ad, I'm ginnis world recordmad.Every time I got booked for a feature,
my feature price went up. Thatwas the whole ethics. Beyond that,
the dude said, Lebron built aschool in Ohio. That's awesome.
Yeah, Lebron, he has fourhundred times more than me if I build

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another script builded in Toledo. SinceI'm also from Ohio. My next school
here in Toledo, Ohio. Markmy words, the rock Tim and Jazzy
Jeffy said that later this year orlike with a no no, not later
this year. Dude, they're gonnaMan if it took me four years to
get these seven songs done, thatship should come before twenty twenty seven.

(13:35):
Damn. Still, I'm just gonnathrow it out there. I'm calling it.
I mentioned something about twenty twenty fouris we're getting a lot of like
labs and autom Yeah, we are. Look at the look at the first
round. I worked on that dropthis year, the super Goat, hus
Kingpin, a knife, wonder.Every physical on the planet is sold out.
You can't get it if you try. If you didn't buy the vinyl

(13:56):
on Monday, good luck. Isaw one person, some one on eBay
for two dollars. That's it.Yeah one you got, you got that
one, you got the common PeteRock you got premiere playing this year supposedly,
and my person the one you're workingon. What I I know?

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Why not? But I saw Isaw Pete at the show and I walked
in. We were in the samedress room and I walked in. He's
like, what's up and dap meup and then realized it was me and
like, well, he looked atme like like you you snuffing that from
him like a But then when Iasked him for a photo later, he's
like, man, get the funkout of my face. I'm like,

(14:39):
Pete, don't want to follow me, Pete, it's me. It's a
lady. I knew he wanted toabout ship like I'm silly. I was
watching around. Everyone would have juststood around and washed. It would have
been glorious. I was following youwhen that whole issue is going on with
him in cannabis. And the bestpart about the Internet now is when like,
look, if if you're a diehard and Manu fan, regardless if

(15:01):
I do right or wrong, likeyou're gonna rive with me if you're a
diehard Pete Rock fan. But duringthat ship I converted so many Pete Rock
fans because they're like, yo,Pete's just clearly lying, like this dude
pulling out everything. I converted everyPete Rock fan extept like one that was
like, no, Pete say itain't so like it's awesome, but yeah,

(15:26):
nonetheless it's still gonna happen to him. In common, we got that's
gonna be a personal favorite. Mypersonal favorite is gonna be obviously you guys
can see up there Cannabis and Chinoalbum. Man that ain't kind of heard
Bro, Sorry, I'm sorry,but cannabis. Hear behind? Bro,
He's he He's just behind, dude, like and it makes no sense.

(15:48):
It makes sense why he's behind andeverything he touches he is. Wait wait
till you hear the chiaoksl verse allRock Kim, that's I can't wait.
I saw the Yeah, Crooked Eye. Crooked Eye has the verse on the
same song, Rock Kim Rock Kimand chehunks Out both were like, this

(16:12):
is a perfect verse. Like I'mlike, I've never heard anyone describe a
versus perfect, but it met alltheir criteria for an amazing verse. I
can't I can't wait for how longthe EP is going to be seven?
It's usually seven to eight night songs. It's seven songs. Everything with the
Ship of seven. It's coming outthe Rebirth of seven, seven letters.

(16:33):
July is the seventh is the goddamsee the free mathematics seven. We're doing
seven drops between the vinyl, thedigital, the CD, the cassette,
the merch the n f t sand some other ship. So yeah,
everything's seven. That's amazing because ifthe seventh thing didn't matter, I could

(16:56):
have easily taken like the d MXPrayer and made it its own track,
or like maybe split up a songair in there. But the theme has
always been seven. Are they gonnabe leftover? Wich packs? You guys
at least have a later date orno. But I am taking beats and
a rock Kim feature, and thenwe're selling that as something called the god

(17:18):
Pack. So like when me andand on do are beats and features packs,
there's gonna be and also in July. It's gonna drop July twelfth.
It's called the god Pack, whereanyone at home can purchase a batch of
rock Kim beats and the Verse touse for their project. And by the
way, rock Kim charge over fiftythousand dollars for a verse. I know
an artist that you know by namethat just paid them one hundred grand.
So anyone now is gonna have theopportunity to have these licensed beats and a

(17:42):
feature for their project. For oneof the NFTs, we have a one
of one piece of rock Kim artworkthat he signed we're gonna have a rock
Kim beat that you will have exclusivelyso only one person can buy it for
their record and maybe like an exponentialthing like a day in the studio with
Rock him and you guys make asong together. But you know, we'll

(18:03):
see about that, Like that's theundertaking. I'm gonna need like fifty rats
from someone with that one, atleast fifty. I think I'll let go
for like ten fifteen thousand. I'llprobably let the NFT one on one piece
of art go for five or tenthousand bucks. But there's a lot and
we got there. Oh and themerch was the other thing I didn't mention
in the seven And there's you know, elimit edition line of Rock can Merch

(18:26):
Okay shirt, the works shirt andnot the words shirts hoodies had. Okay,
that's all right, nice. Canyou elaborate on the whole cannabis issues
where he's on behind, like what'sgoing on? Can you? I don't
know. I don't just know howhe occupies his time. All I know

(18:48):
is that when we did the deal, I said, look, I can
get us one hundred percent of themoney up front, which is unheard of.
Okay, when you sign, youget a piece of the advance.
When you, like, you know, maybe turn in some deliverables, you
get another piece. When you turninto all the deliverables, you get the
balance. That's how advances work.And rap I got us one hundre percent

(19:08):
of the money. He's like,I'm going to block out these two weeks
in July and this was July lastyear, and knock out all these references
that didn't happen. It's just hehe lies but hates being told he's a
liar. You know I didn't lie, It's just it didn't work out that
way. I'm like, dude,you got to understand people, in their

(19:30):
words, are both accountable. It'sinterchangeable. Shit. I'm only good at
my job because I say what Ican do and do what the fuck I
say. That's it. If Itell Snooper, I'll bring you two hunred
thousand dollars in cash on Friday.But I'm like, oh, maybe like
ten fridays from now, it's notthe same. Granted the money might come,
it doesn't mean what it's supposed tomean then in there, so yeah,

(19:56):
you get it. So it's likewe're waiting on I don't know I've
heard like two or three references fromCannabis, and it was supposed to be
Thiss and Chino talk every week,go over what songs are each gonna vocal,
then you know, do their respectivevocals based off of Okay, this
song is gonna be like this becauseyou know they live in two different places.
And then we switched the references.She now has done all of his

(20:18):
obligations to this point in time,and Cannabis is just way fucking behind,
and I don't know what's going onwith him. Like I got him paid
to do promotions for his own record, The Slick the Self Iron Code album
was just dropped on vinyl, andhe took the money and didn't do the
work. And it's like, yo, bro, there's not a lot of
easier bags in the game. Thenhere's on amount of money that has a

(20:41):
common in it to make social mediathat kind of shit. So you know,
ever since I've been working with Cannabis, dating back to seven o eight,
he's onways been one foot in,one foot out, and I just
I've done everything I can to putboth feet back in the arena. Like
I didn't have to put him onthe Rock Came album that's a fucking privilege,

(21:03):
dude, that's amazing. I callEminem for that. I called Kendrick
Lamar for that. I think alot of people like, why didn't you?
I called in my Eminem favor recentlyfor my artist d Z in Australia.
When d Z's album drops, hisdebut album, I believe February twenty
twenty five, Eminem to the introlike he just doesn't come. I could

(21:26):
have clearly got Eminem on rock Kimlike, you know, so, I
just I want people. I justwanted the motherfucker to be who I see
him in my head. And whenpeople ask me, why are you still
like even fuck with this dude?Because I wish he would just be who
I want him to be, orhow I grew up admiring him. You
know, I've worked with him forso long it's led me to believe that

(21:47):
really he was a comment and dominatorof all these problems. Like you get
paid for work, you do thework. It's that simple. That's what
keeps the checks coming. That's whyI'm never gonna have to worry about clients
or or anything like that, aslong as I delive for excellent albums,
people will continue to pay me tomake and deliver excellent albums. The minute
I stop, I expect to checkthe stop. So therefore, I don't

(22:07):
anticipate stopping. As I say,do you have an insight? Are you
just gonna keep going to the Doyou just stop working now and be good
for about the next fifteen to twentyyears of my life? But it's not
going too I mean, whether ornot there's anything I ever do in my
lifetime bigger than the rock kimn project, Okay, that's you get to be
determined. But I'll still have clientslike the Forties and Tech Ninees and Wu

(22:33):
Tangs and and and the likes thatwill continue to drop golden platinum fucking records.
So I'm cool with that. Youknow. I just got to get
something, so I need hallways.I saw on your last podcast you mentioned
l was going to be on thatalbum, The China on Cannabis one.
Now, was that even possible?Still, even if it is possible,

(22:53):
that's the whole thing. Like,I mean, I got a rock Kim
on it, rock Kim is ontheir record. Like there are four artists
we picked Lo Cool Jay, loupeFiasco, Rock Him and uh, maybe
technology are more technique. It wasone of four of those five names.
We don't need any features on thatproject, but if we're to have them,

(23:15):
those are the potential names. Yes, we can call Llo cool J
and be like, look, Imean, there's gonna be a check involved.
It's not just gonna happen to happen. We'll get the check, no
problem, you know. So it'sI need this to be on top of
his shit. This has a lotof outside of distractions, and it's like,
I don't even I can't name namesand shit like that because I don't

(23:37):
know any of these motherfucker's names.But some of these people in his life
need to let him be the star. Everyone keeps trying to latch onto his
star power. That's not even fuckingwow in the year twenty twenty four,
but it's so much more wow thantheir star power. That can't help it,
Like fucking off everything I'm doing.None of these people were there when

(23:59):
I built him back up. Theyweren't around for Kaiju. They weren't around
for one stuff closer to infinity.Ah, the woodworks comes all these motherfuckers,
and then one by one best hasto realize that they're all full of
shit and bring nothing to the table. But he's such a nice person.
He gives them all the opportunity toshow him that they're fucking retards. I'm
like, I know what, people, Let him go, dude, let

(24:19):
them do their own shit. Ifyou're gonna do versus for them, get
the bag. If you're gonna doa show, get the bag. Like
he will put off doing shit that'sbeneficial in his career to help someone that
doesn't know what to do with thebenefit of having the guest artists attached to
their shit. I, on theother hand, know exactly what he's supposed
to do when a rock Kim fallsinto your lap pause, you know,
when when the opportunity to add ona Wu Tang project or executives a Wu

(24:44):
Tank project or corrupt project or CrookedEye. I know what to do with
these artists and these opportunities. Peoplejust want. They feel like, yo,
I can do what it. Maybehe does. Know the fuck you
cannot, And even if you could, you wouldn't know what to do with
it. That's the difference. Nicelast question, not last question. I'm
sorry. Next question, how doesthe last question I asked? I'm here

(25:06):
for thirty seven just came. Oneof the question I did have is how
did it feel to be able toget done what Doctor Drake couldn't? Thank
you huge, that thanks huge.So we gave. We gave the first
interview with Rock him to Spin andthen the Rolling Stone after and I'm like,
did any of you ask that question? They're like, now, I'm

(25:26):
like, see you think they thinkI'm asking that out of myself reasons.
I think that's a legit question toask. And the answer is this.
You've seen interviews with Rock Kim speakingon his time with Aftermath and Dray and
Dre. It's it wasn't like thebeats were batter. I think it's doctor
Dre. Come on, I betthat shit sounds amazing to hear everything that
Rock Kim did with Dre. Butfor Dre to, you know, and

(25:48):
this is part of being an executivebruisers, not just the money guys,
not just the dude coordinating all thefucking ship and R and the ship,
but for Dre to be like,you know, I think this song should
be about this, or I thinkyou know you should like I didn't do
that with Raw. I studied allthe shit that Rob didn't like about what
his time with Dre and did theexact opposite, Rob the balls in your
court you, And it made iteasier when he's making the beats, because

(26:11):
one, I don't have to tellhim much to rap about you, rap
what you feel like rapping about youmade the soundscape, like I don't a
lot of writers either write just towrite, or they only write when they
hear an instrumental. Okay, likelater in my artist career, I became
that way. I only wrote down. I only wrote raps when I was
listening to beat. I didn't justhave like free wraps lighting around, and

(26:32):
rock Kim doesn't have fucking just freewraps lyning around or old references or anything
like that. So I did theexact opposite of Dre and just let Rob
run his creative game. And that'sthe difference. Like give me the freedom
of that time creativity, give methe freedom of choice. And you know
I didn't waver like fat beats.You know it's been three four years,
Like if we could just get ourmoney back, I think Matt ken't give
him the money back like a fuckingweek or month later, Like sure you

(26:56):
wanted no problem, like I wasas patient as patient against I say,
I practice gone. You're like,patients will run him and now the world
will benefit from it. Dude,I really, I'm I'm happy that it's
a seven song EP because it clocksin it about thirty four minutes and that's
short enough to listen to it once, love it, go back, Let's
do it again and again and againand again, and I get tired of

(27:17):
it. We're not going to dragyou out with twenty rock hymn songs.
You will be digesting those seven forweeks until you're like, yo, this
is the best ship like it.It's the greatest album of the year.
But you will come to that determinationby year's end when accounts and I guarantee
you we get a couple of Grammynommes out of it. Well, that'd
be awesome. Indeed, that's whatit one deserves. When album I just

(27:40):
didn't put together and you got thefeatures and everybody coming through, Yes,
I like Justine. I tried toapply to extended for the ghost Face record.
The ghost Face I picked all thebeats, send the beats to ghost
These are what I need you tovocal he vocals first lays the blueprint now
I'm going to get Snoop and heforty and Sheikh Luge and Ray Kwan and

(28:02):
lat of the Dark Men and andPriests and Bishop Momont and the who's who
and put it all together. Thengo back to Ghosts. Here's what I
did Ghosts. There was I thinkone person on that entire project you want
me to take off? And itwasn't for like any retarded like like you
know, I'll fuck this person.Ghosts did a verse for them. They
did a verse for ghost project,then asked for another verse from Ghosts and

(28:23):
Ghosts like I did the ship forthem first. So if they're expecting me
to verse swamp them, I alreadydid that shit, I'm not doing it.
Take them off. That was it. Now, when those featurements happen,
do you guys get to get inthe studios you gotta have a session
or just to be there. Yes, you know. So like when I
got Tricky on the Ghost Bets album, And for those of you who aren't

(28:44):
familiar with Tricky, like that's oneof my favorite arts of all time for
the United Kingdom. Like I wentto a Tricky concert in San Francisco.
We didn't get to meet, butI met his manager. He was on
tour for the next like thirty days. He was able to record on his
tour. Boss. I was notat the session Snoop and forty. I
was, however, at the sessionswith like Priest and Bishop Vermont and Asia

(29:04):
and hust Kingpin, and I think, I think master Killer, So like,
yeah, who's who of it?If I can be there, sure,
but I'm not gonna go, likeget on a plane from Los Angeles
and go to New York just tosit in the studio for an hour and
fly home. Finally, Now,the craziest shit was if my daughter's birthday
wasn't tomorrow or her birthday party Tomorrowbirthdays on a Sunday. There is a

(29:27):
private listening party happening right now inNew York, invite only. I was
on the invite list to here Onceupon a time shall inow before it goes
to the museum in Australia. Iwas invited. I even got offered several
thousand dollars to attend, So trustme, I would have loved to go

(29:47):
get that bad, but instead Icalled cappadonnaas I said, Cap go,
He's like how much money? He'slike, shut the fuck out. I'm
getting paid this just to go there, and I believe he's there right now.
He'll probably call him take me later, Hercules. What does it do?
Mercles in Canada, he's on toright He's on tour with Snoop and

(30:11):
like him Wick and Warren Gyp shoutout to Canada. Yeah, he's he's
pretty good. I think he's did. He recently tour with Lucas. I
believe right that. I'm not ahuge join of Lucas. No I was.
I was when he first came out, before all the songs. I'm
like, this is me, rappingfrom the perspective of an ant that checks

(30:33):
out saying this is me. That'spretty funny the white people think of when
they see a black man like you. I'm like, okay, you're really
overtaking the ship. Just speaker hys. I think like a lot of his
early stuff was definitely good. Idefinitely like that. I met him a
couple of times. I like it, and then I just I just couldn't
subscribe all the ship. I knowhe can run, yeah, definitely can

(30:59):
well. One last had been onthe Cannabischino album. Sure. I was
just see if I could get itout before the end of the year.
I will. But uh, whenI call cannabis now, I mean,
I don't think I can help thatsituation. I think Art is in charge
of the label has to be inconstant communication with him and be like or
China, you know, but we'relike, Chino has his own life,
Dude, Chino. We got aChino record that's centerally ready to drop seven

(31:22):
seven and that's like a Sunday,but that's the day he wants to drop
it. So that's called darkness andother colors, I believe, And that's
that gun he is because that's notincluding the just announced to bankers. God's
carpenter. I think it's what it'scalled. That could be wrong, but

(31:45):
I think it's called that I justsaw. I saw the post the other
day, so I can't wait forthat one. Neither. The first one
was really good. I loved it. I'm gonna make sure they kicked me
back ninety five that God's propping thecannabis, you know. One I wanted
selfishly a Carino just verse. Ifthat he was the only one on there,
I would have been no. Allthose songs with Krino that was because

(32:08):
of a guy named the architect inFlorida, and the Architect was another example
of a problem, someone that wasjust overstepping his boundaries. He's someone we
hired to be our mixing and masteringengineer, and then like, I want
to do what it made it does. I want to make the albums to
the point where he tried to convinceCannabis to not work with me, and
I'm like, bro, you onlyknow Cannabs because of me. So I

(32:29):
said, I let him go throughthe motions, like I'm not going to
argue for my fucking position. Maybeif I was talking to Snoop I would
or fucking you know. I mean, come on, there's got to be
a hierarchy of artists. Definitely,I'm not gonna act not but I'm not
doing that ship with Cannabis, likedude, like all the money I made
that dude in Troy twenty two,he went like and made his family good,

(32:52):
like that. He wanted to goback into the normal man's workforce and
not doing any of the rap shit. I'm like, and see, that's
how I know that money isn't athing to him, because I said,
what do you make for a livingat your job? Quit your job?
And I'll pay you that as asalary just a rap plus we should make
at least times three that, andwe did the first year, he made
like times three point two that amountof money. So I wasn't like by

(33:15):
any means like just holding him down, like to cover his bills and ship
like he was living. I wouldstill if I had the work ethic I
thought that he could give me,like proving that it was gonna make money
or be worth my time, likewhatever he's going through right now, or
putting me through some fucking bullshit.Like even if he do, even if

(33:36):
he would have done a verse everymonth, he'd still be behind one verse
month and we're still behind. Sothat's that's the kind of work I think
I'm getting from him when think aboutit this way. We finished the entire
Kaiju album in one month, theentire once uh uh one Step Postal Infinity
in one month of thirty days.He's done three verses for the Ship with

(33:58):
Chino four versus maybe in eleven months, So you can't I don't care if
you know your fucking every member ofyour family died and your house blew up
and whatever that there's there's two excusesthere. That's crazy. Like, you
are a rap artist. You havea studio literally where you live. You

(34:20):
don't have to go anywhere go makeyour fucking wraps. So he must he
must be just letting a million andone things distract him right now from actually
getting the job done. And I'mnot yet. I don't have time to
stand for that ship mm hmm.That's understandable. You get to get stuff
done. Contract to date. Todate, the Horseman album is the only
album I announced ever that I neverthought was gonna happen. I'm like,

(34:42):
that's gonna be the black Monk ofmy resume. But then twenty years later
that should happen. But we don'thave twenty years to wait now. I'm
not fucking waiting twenty years for akids. We definitely to be honest,
Yeah, we need to. I'mgonna make that happen. So it also
congrats on the the Dug Pound album. That one just came out and it's

(35:06):
doing well. That actually look perfect. Example. That album is phenomenal and
that was recorded in a week.The whole album, yeah, it was.
It was the equivalent of like sevenstudio sessions, dude, maybe six.
That's amazing. Yeah, the Stoop'sgot the damn compound. You got

(35:29):
Studio A, Studio B. Infact, after Snoop and DMX to that
versus d m X stayed for liketwo weeks and did Exodus in Studio B
the whole time. He's the firstperson to ever smoked cigarettes and Snoop ship
not going there smoking and like,yo, they frowned upon that. Yeah

(35:50):
myself, so I get it.But pretty well, you got any questions
from the people at home? Isthere anyone that I came to fuck himself?
I will after this, I willfunk off into the oblivions. So

(36:15):
I've assume you've been on tour withsome of these guys that you've worked with.
Oh, what's your favorite spot?You would have been you've been to?
What's my favorite? What your favoritespot, like, you know,
venue or city or kind of SaltLake City, Utah, Austin, Texas.
Yeah, and it has nothing todo with rapids because of how many
girls suck my cock at the sametime, like three or four at a

(36:37):
time. It's pretty awesome. No, Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City,
I found out, like I'm alegend there. I did a show
opening up for Planet Asia, wewere on tour, the Black Belt Theater
tour, and like more people likecame from my set than Asia's. And
then this label the next day broughtme to the studio to give me like
four thousand dollars to do versus withsome of their artists, and you know,

(36:59):
like I had a lot of niceladies, and I was like,
I feel like the fucking king.And they brought me back for years,
like every six seven months, andI was just picking up. I'd go
to Salt Lake City and come homefive six g's richer in a twenty four
to forty hours span, you know, with my uh big smile on my
face and just meet new and lovelyladies. All the Mormons love them,

(37:20):
some jew love them, some Jewishreaction. Huh. How about internationally?
Your favorite anywhere? London? Iwould live in London. All my experience
in the United Kingdom have been phenomenal. I the first time I ever performed
overseas was in Switzerland. That waspretty badass. I was rapping with like

(37:44):
after I broke against world record.I was rapping with all these other famous
freestyle dudes, but I was theonly dude rhyming in English, so like
like in overseas, we're in acrowd where like English isn't the like primary
language. So like when I'm likesaying some ill shit, I'm like waiting
for the reaction and not getting it. But when someone's like if it's something
fiend, and I'm like, whatthe fuck is going on here? What

(38:08):
just happened? They were probably justmaking fun of me the whole time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'msitting there like all these dudes should be
bowing down to me. I'm theGettess w record older these dudes are.
But no, it was not likethat at all. They're looking at me
like you fucking American scum. That'sawesome. The United Kingdom. I love

(38:30):
going there, whether it's just tobe there to chill or like be there
to work. I've been there withWu Tang and the Mob, Deep and
Ship and it's awesome. Man.Now, I did notice your last podcast
you mentioned something about Snoop getting adeal with some people or group or person
in Kazakhstan. Eyebroker for the largestfemale pop group their name is kesh U.

(38:53):
A feature and video with Snoop.Now Snoop like they came over from
Kazakhstan, you know, you knowafterwards, the people in kansastwn like the
parliament like took me out to launchin Beverly Hill. Was like it's like
the biggest honor, you know,and our country's ever known. And Snoop
has a show coming like stoops ontorn Canada right now, but has a

(39:15):
show in America on the fifteenth,and like they're flying in to perform with
him, but they're gonna do thatsong and from the sold out crowd and
you know, just like strengthen thatbond in the relationship. But it's a
really big deal. And uh,you know, I put Snoop on records
that have gone platinum in Bulgaria andand I think in Germany or Switzerland or
ship so it's like I've done mydu there. You know for those does

(39:39):
it help Snoop to like understand whatthey're saying so he knows the theme of
the song or the track goes in. He definitely wants to be as in
the net as possible, so weyou know, Snoop's part on that song
as in English, the rest isnot. So we had to have the
translation and like you know, beyondjust a translation, like what's the overall

(40:00):
theme of the song and really reallyunderstand it that way to get the best
vocal contributions out of On a Dogor whoever the suiting guest artist is.
When you're dealing with exclusive features,Yeah, you know you want to use
you want to use the guest artistessentially as an instrument to the track and
really make it go that way.Like I said, my my new neighbors

(40:21):
are just watching me through the windowright now seeing me talk to it.
It sounds watching me talk to atelephone and a computer like this is a
literal. Guy's been starting at mefor troy minutes. He has not moving.
Yeah, hey, you mentioned UKover there. I want to visit
just to visit their hip hop areasbecause they love our underground hip hop more

(40:45):
than we love it over here inStates. I just want to go over
there just you know, go toa couple of shows and enjoy the culture
because they love it more than wedo. And like I said, like
say Wu Tang, you know thisis before Wu Tang to the tour with
Nas and bus Rimes and Nas andday Hussole. But you know, then
you might catch wul Tank like aneight thousand cap room or smaller, but
when you go overseas, that's wherethe real heads are. So they're playing

(41:07):
twenty thousand plus every night, youknow, those festivals of for one hundred
thousand of thus people. That's anexample of them really feeling the love.
So I think that applies like evenyou know, for an artist just getting
started, if you're a prony event, we have this upcoming dude coming from
America, like clearly it's worth checkingout because otherwise how the fuck would you

(41:28):
be getting over there exactly? AndI just saw the Beatles are going on
throw in Australia. It's like,yeah, my artist is going to do
the Brisbane date, and then Onyxis going on tour in Australia as well.
They're I mean, they're always ontour of the world. But Gz's
gonna do the Brisbane, Sydney andMelbourne date and he has a new EP
drop in June fourteenth. We needwe need some dates in America, so

(41:52):
we often go see that that's kindof fall. We need to show more
love to underground hip hop. Wedefinitely need that because that's the best hip
hop round YEP, especially nowadays.I did see that you have tickets to
the NAS show in Vegas. Oh, that's I'm going. I'm going as

(42:13):
a fan. I could call turnand be like, put me on the
guest list. But it's not justa NAS show. It's NAS with the
Philanthropic CURVEI Philharmonic Orchestra. So that'sa big deal. You don't know,
like sometimes when Wuchang goes on tour, like it's not just the average Wu
Tang show. It's like, youshould buy tickets to that ship. So

(42:34):
I bought tickets. I'm in thesecond row, like I want to experience
that ship from a fan perspective.And it's I know it's not the first
time he's done that with the orchestra, but it's like I've never seen it
live. I've seen it on televisionand DVD. Ship. So and I
love any excuse at all to goto Vegas. I've never been to put
on very nice. It's very verynice. All the ladies really nice,

(42:55):
very nice. Was it a coupleof my south is the Buddy Ranch?
But that's another story. Now I'vebeen to Vegas one hundred times and never
done that. I don't I thinkthat's far far read it online with it
what else can we expect for twentytwenty four for m eighty and Holy to
the productions your record company. Ohyou drop the news on So for me

(43:22):
and me and Adrian. We gotthe Rock Kim pack com in July.
We got the Bone pack drop inthis month. We have a Trust Records
versus Zelda Records beat some features packthat's big. We got the Icon six
packs, so we got our patsall planned out for the rest of the
UH. For the rest of theyear, I got more records come in,

(43:44):
you know, hopefully that also won'tbe ready by the this year.
I know it. I mean,hust moved to Brazil, but you know
we're coming off the success of Hustking Pin in Knife Wonder, we have
the Corrupt and Hust king Pin albumto meet the Kingpins. You know.
I will do my best to seeif I can get China and Canada sound
twenty twenty four. If not,then that'll wait till twenty twenty five and
I'll release the Cannabis album produced byMatt Liban. Oh No, definitely new

(44:08):
records from Planet Asia. Yeah,just sounds about like it. I mean,
I just want to ride the rockKim wave, you know, and
until I feel like chilling. ButI do have a question a lot A
lot of times, I'm definitely notrushing it. And a lot of people
are coming to me now like,yo, we need to work, we

(44:29):
need it like that. We're neverhitting me for work before. And I
told him you got to at leastwait until like the end of August,
because I've spent my whole life toget to this point in time. And
I'm not trying to hack like yourmore plane. Not to be disrespectful whoever
I'm talking to, but this isthe most important ship to me. You
know. The only verse that Cannabisdid like that for me was his verse
on the rock Kim record, whichby the way, was like four minutes

(44:51):
long. Rock Kim was cracking up. I ended up cutting it. I
end up cutting it to like aminute and a half or maybe four minutes.
Cannabis was doing his eminem ship whereyou had like eight different voices.
I'm like, yo, bro,come on, so we don't need all
the voice. I do have aquestion from a person at watching. He
says, as a mayde, whohis favorite Jewish rapper is. I think

(45:12):
you said something about you Jewish.That's an easy answer. It's the King
ad Rock. The King ad Rock, that's the name rock Beatible. I
think that's what rock from Voice ismy favorite Jewish rapper and also one mm
hm for those of you watched itwith Instagram, this is a nice who

(45:35):
I'm talking to if anyone, Ithink people think I'm just starting with myself
in my office tuning in all right, now, have you do you have
artists all over the states? I'massuming do you have in worldwide? Like
I'm from CT and do you haveany in the CT area or looking at

(45:59):
from the CT. I was thefirst I was to ever get Chris Webby
a paid feature. Really yeah,like yeah, I like Chris Lobby very
very much. Chris Webby owns twopieces from the M. E. D.
Household. He has my Sopranos piecefully signed by the entire cast minus
his mom, and he has myBreaking Bad piece that's signed by like the

(46:22):
main cast members. But I triedto get Chris signed to BMG. I
did. The deal did not gothrough. BMG wanted him very badly,
and I think if he would havetaken the deal, we'd be hearing more
Chris Webby records on mainstream radio.But Chris, you know, is good
with his independent grind and wars consistently, and I've really watched that dude blow

(46:43):
up from you know, say,doing like fifteen hundred dollar shows to fifteen
dollars shows, and he's a great, great good guy. Shut up,
Chris Webby. That's awesome apathy outhere. There a couple other local guys
that I like personally, Mike Nashville, I d whole bunches, whole bunch
of louk lass out here. Yougot any advice for somebody that's up and
coming from you know, doesn't haveto be Connecticut about from anyway. You

(47:07):
know, It's funny because my answeris self serving. Any artist that's up
and coming that has five hundred dollarsshould hire me for a consultation. Let
me explain to you why the fivehundred dollars will give you eons of game.
I you pay me for the fivehundred dollars consultation, I send you
this pre consule Q and a youfill it out. I spend about a

(47:27):
week literally crafting a program for youto follow, specifically crafted for you.
Now, if you end up hiringme in the course of a year there
after, I take a deductive fivehundred dollars from whatever service you're hiring me
for, you know, like outum, construction, legal, label and distribution,
shopping, et cetera, et cetera, ceter The point is if you
don't hire me though, which bythe way, about ninety percent of people
who get the consoles don't because theycan't afford me. But the point is

(47:52):
you're making more money. You're releasinggreater bodies of product, You're seeing more
revenue from streaming, You're getting moresubscribers on your streams, which is the
whole point. That's what you're supposedto do, and label start to pay
attention. You're building a fan base, and it's become You're becoming more organic
in the in the actual business ofmusic versus just like you know, I
make great raps and I'm the greatest, like but people don't fuck with me.

(48:12):
Is because people just avail themselves tohow great their music is. There's
so much more to making the music. The best advice I can give to
an independent artist is hire me fora consultation and have a real professional that
has all the accolades in the worldto give you proper advice guide you on
where you're supposed to be going.And again, these programs I craft for
each individual individual artists are exactly thatdone for you. I don't do a

(48:35):
consult with you know, uh,Jimmy down the block and take fucking Billy's
note sheet. Yeah, you know, it's specific to you. That's the
best advice I can give. Youdon't have to spend money with me,
but you do in your careers haveto spend money. So please be more
than just someone you can write andrecord great limes. That's that's my starting

(48:55):
advice. That's awesome out there listeninglistening to this later on Spotify. iHeartRadio,
Google podcasts, wherever it is.Take that advice. If you're a
local artists and when you're not dealingwith music and family, family time,
what are you doing? What doyou get into? What's your hobbies and
stuff like that. I like goingto a lot of sporting events at Staples

(49:16):
Center Crypto dot com. Now Igo to as many LA Kings games and
ship like that as I can.Hockey games. I like, does you
go to hockey? I love goingto hockey games. Yeah, I like,
before before the Lakers got Lebron,I used to treat friends as like
the sleep on a like a coupleof times, a couple of times a

(49:37):
month basis, you know, likeme, Priest and Haus and Asia and
all of them would go and justhave a good time, and like we
know all the people that bring uslike a free bottle of you know,
like vod Car, Jamison or someship. I like, I like hanging
out with friends. Then it's veryfar in fe you that I get to
do that now because everything is worked, and when I'm not working, it's
family time. Like who's cool tohang with my young daughter? Dude?

(49:59):
You know she's cool with my wife. That's what I say about my kid.
I love. I love being afamily man. And the whole point
is it has not yet affected mywork. I'm like the last five years,
every year has been my best year. That we move on the next
year and that year is better thanthe last. So it's like I'm riding
this wave of just like killing shitand nothing's phasing me. And you know,

(50:22):
people have been hating on me mywhole life, and it's gotten to
the point where like I'm forty twogoing to forty three, So some of
you are forty give or take,like You've got to come to the point
where you decide I'm going to stopthe hate and now I'm gonna start living
for me. So I feel likea lot of these people have spent so
much time trying to bring me downthat they've forgot to accomplish it in their
own lives. And here I am, like, I know you guys exist,

(50:45):
but I'm just gonna ride out now. You've worked with so many people
over the years since forever. Who'syour favorites? Your favorite MC man is
my favorite MC of all time becausehe has the first artist I've listened to
that really had personality and humor andplus the bars were insane, So I

(51:06):
like that because everyone's so fucking tough, you know, and Priests used to
be in my top five before wefell out. Working with Rock Kim is
a dream come true that I'll neverever take for granted. Like I love
ghost Face and me and him goback and forth on shit all the time
because he's another example of he knowsall the business we've done together is fucking

(51:28):
on the up and up and righteous. But he's got all these other people
that are like, you know,you don't need an eighty He's shit,
it's like theseus ever done this speech. Like a lot of these people in
ghost gear, if ghost Face didn'texist, they'd be nothing, Like who
would you be without ghost I wouldstill be me if you remove any one
person from my artist shit, I'mstill at eighty right. But that's the

(51:52):
whole point, Like, that's whyI built my company that way. A
lot of these people that were withWu Tang that want to be part of
Wu Tang, like as an artist, as a Killer Bee, never envisioned
what life would be like if thatplan didn't pan out. So I always,
even though I came through Utaga's,my family always knew I was going
to expand out and I wanted youknow, I'm not talking about me as
an artist. Even then I wasworking with all sorts of other people.

(52:14):
But I provide A and R services, label service, things of that nature.
I was going to law school.I'm not meant to just serve one
master, Like I got the shipthat everyone needs. So talk to me.
People like a lot of use aclick hopper. He's this, like,
bro, you know how grateful Iam to have some kind of knowledge
or skill set that everyone needs.Like when DMX personally calls me like you

(52:37):
gonna be my guy, like aftermeeting me for the first time, like
with us now or like rock Kim, like Yo, I've seen the press
for the record has been so crazy. I'm like, whatever you need.
Like in our contract, he wasonly obligated to do like five or six
of the most key interviews. Nowwe're really going to ride out with the
ship, so I don't have tobe like we turned down drink Champs.

(52:59):
You know, We've turned down abunch of ship, but the ship that
makes the most sense is theF foryou to get done. I'm glad to
have this for on the record.Jiz has always been one of my all
time favorites because the lyricism, thefunny thing is appreciates to tell me that
Jisus was the funniest person he knewin real life, and I cannot recall
one time that Jesus ever made melaugh. So I'm like, you can
see different sides of people depending onwho they're with. Maybe, you know,

(53:23):
like I've seen Redman be absolutely hilariousaround me, and then I've seen
him be, you know, likethe exact opposite to someone else. So
it's like people have a million onestories like that with Tupac. Yeah,
you know though those are essentially runningon my top five there. You know,
you're appreciate from from someone I don'tknow so well, but I've had

(53:45):
several encounters with Scarface has always beenat the top of the game for me.
I love Face. How often areyou getting hit up for A and
R stuff and full, you know, actual services. I get over one
hundred emails a day for work relatedthings, and three of them a day
maybe two are actual money. Theother ninety seven ninety eight are just like

(54:12):
people do that though you have tounderstand we're in a social media world now,
so it's like people hit my DMlike your families got work and then
I'll send them my packet. Theyjust want to tell people I've been talking
to M eighty Like, okay,that's what it is. So respects to
the people that hit me actually comingthrough and people know I'm a super dickhead,

(54:34):
because imagine if by the time Iget to you, whether I think
you're actually coming with it or not, like you're being really you got bread
to spelling me. I've already talkedto ninety people in the day that aren't
so of course, I'm going tobe an asshole. Prove make me not
be an asshole. That's your job, it's part of your payment. They
got real in fact, here's thebread right now. Like, dude,
sometimes I just wake up in themorning and there's like cash apps and paypals

(54:55):
and zel's and shit, and I'mlike, I have no idea where this
money came from. Got to figureit out. How do you say,
what's organized with all that shit happening? That's gotta be Uh, Honestly,
I don't write shit down. Istarted keeping more notes in my phone,
but I used to only write somethingdown if it was money. So,
like my friend's mom's sitting down withme one time. I'm I'm in their

(55:16):
house and I get this call andthe guy's just talking, talking, talking,
and she's like, I hang up. It's like you didn't write any
of that down. I'm like,he's not for real. It's like you
just entertain him the whole time.He entertaining. He's not for real.
Like I'll put the pen to thepaper and make some shit happen when I
see some money. Yeah, yeah, what up? John? Everybody on

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YouTube Facebook appreciate you guys checking inI love it. It's awesome. So
when does this air? Like Ifinished, and then it automatically airs right
now, it's live on Facebook andYouTube, so that automatically up uploaded.
Make sure for those just tuning inon Instagram that you watch a hefty podcast
with Eanic's on YouTube. It's livenow. But when I finished, then
it will like do its thing.No, do it behind the scenes worth

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We don't know how it work.It does the buffering, that's what the
new exactly does the buffering and thenyou can watch it in hole just like
the Saying Bug podcasting. The audiowas automatically up on Spotify, iTunes.
Yeah, all those iHeartRadio podcasts,all that stuff automatically uploaded. So that's
awesome. Yeah, all right,before we head out of here, anything

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last advice for all the look artistsout there again before we go, I
appreciate you taking time. Listen toyou. It's awesome. Don't make raps
or don't make raps, don't makesongs and just sit on them. Make
something, get it out, makesomething, get it out. That's what
it is. If you, ifyou have the ability to record every week,
drop something once a week, dropa single. If you have the
ability to shoot a video once amonth, drop it. Just keep putting

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the shit out because that's what getspeople to start talking. Like there's ten
thousand eight rs. My name comesup in the conversation more times than not
because I'm actively putting myself out there. This is who i am, this
is my background, is my resume, this is what I'm working on now,
but I've worked on the past.I am in your fucking face with
it. So many other people areso behind the scenes because that's what our

(57:06):
positions are, and I exectives behindthe scenes. They don't know who to
turn to when they're in need ofsome of the services I offer. I'm
here telling you I'm the one stopshop you can't go wrong. Okay,
it doesn't work out for everybody.So yeah, before we sign off,
what's the best slash coolest story youever been a part that you are able

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to tell us? What's the bestthat like like the you know the best?
You know you've been to a party, saw this happen, or you
went somewhere else and this happen us. Crazy that not a lot of people
know that. You could tell usa lot of stuff is time. I
mean my wife doesn't care. Youknow. It was all the ships free
hurt. Uh, it's nothing,it's nothing crazy. It's just it's just

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the first thing that pops into mymind. U. I went to a
party in andre Agassi's house one timeas my brother's a favorite tennis player.
Uh yeah. So I'm like,dude, Steve, I'm going to Andragazony's
house. I'mall you soon as Iget there. Oh shit, shit's gonna
go to Oh man, if you'rewatching on Instagram, you gotta tune in
the hear this on YouTube, it'sgonna cut off. I'm just gonna hang

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them out. Sorry, Instagram,you don't get to hear the end of
story. So go to and Dragasy'shouse and there's no on Dregazy. I'm
like, there's like one hundreds ofpeople with no on Dragson. I'm like,
where is he? Like, Oh, he's in Germany with Stefanie Graff.
I'm like, uh okay, Sowho's hosting this party there? Duran

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Durant. I'm like the band DuranDrana. And it was awesome. And
there's photos of me naked in andreAgassy's kitchen with two girls wrapped around me.
With a glass of wine in onehand and a whole steak in the
other, like we completely rated thefucking wine cellar. Duran Durant was using
his house as a rehearsal studio inexchange for playing some event for Andrea and

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step These two girls hop in thepool and getting naked and they're happy to
go naked. And then I'm like, I'm in there and I'm holding up
by the diving board and let theseladies have their way with my greatness.
And I think that was the firsttime I ever tried to eat a chicks
box underwater. Don't do that.Good die, So I'm still alive,
Thank God, thank god? Allright, story added life advice. Yeah,

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but I don't do that. Uh. And then it's like everyone's just
standing there watching and I'm like,there's done. More and more chicks are
jumping the pool and that's when dudesa fuck it. Then I get out
and I'm just like, this iswhy. Uh but that was pretty funning
long again, I made man,Thank you. I appreciate the time you
give it me. Yeah. Lookforward to the rest of twenty twenty four.

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Hopefully all these albums come out.Can't wait for the Rock in July
twenty sixth. Appreciate your time byall right man, take care of Hey,
what's your Instagram? An? Niceakes and zero yeah, thank you
all. No, I appreciate that. Starting out later. Thank you m

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