The One with Kendrick vs Drake!!!! Oh and some Diddy talk!

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today, but maybe next time we'llwe'll get them in through today's episode.
It's gonna be a good episode.It's gonna be very it's gonna get very
intense in here. I can feelit. I can feel it. We're
gonna be talking about the Kendrick DrakeBeef and BBL Drizzy because I can't get

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that damn song stuck out of myhead fire video. Yeah, So with
me today, I'm my boy,Mike, Mike induced yourself as Mike.
How you doing today? Man,you bro? How you doing? I'm
good? Yeah, I'm just youknow, taking care of the family,
working. You try to get it. You try to get me here a
couple of times and live with theAmerican dream. Yeah, which American?

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Yeah, definitely. I'm happy tobe here, you know. Hold on,
it only took you four years tocome through the crew, saying I
work every weekend. I'm working.I'm actually working tonight, you know,
but I'm still you know, I'mrisking. I'm sacrificing sleep to be here
because if not, I would havebeen sleeping getting ready. I appreciate you.
Love your sacridfressing sleep for your boypodcast. I love it. Have

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the podcast, my boy James,James James, I haven't seen you forever
yesterday right life. Yeah, itwork, sucks whatever, that's another thing.
But James is one of the peoplethat I know we could talk hip
hop and we can talk for hoursabout it. So I invite him on
his podcast, not only for theNew Beef, but we just are knowledge

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of hip hop goes deep, sobeyond you know, the mainstream Kendrick and
I consider myself a new old head, so there you know, I'm a
definitely oldhead. But we'll get intothat. And my third guest of the
evening introduce your stuff, sir.It's your boy a j ak area like
the Little Murmaid, except for Iswim faster. I'm like a deep sea
divey you heard and if you alreadyknow me, from the one to know,

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watch your TV just fucking get it. Shout out to your podcast,
what's the next episode coming out?Real quick before we dive into what we're
talking about tonight, next weekend,next weekend? What you got what you
got playing? And you can't givedetails? Or yeah, yeah, I
did a I did a. Idid a podcast with my cousin down in
the city and the Bronx word Word, so that'll be coming out. Shout

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out music, you know, wordword alsople of a couple of his homies
too. So okay, I don'twhat you gotta do like like a barber
shop talk or well it was itwas more of a more Bronx thing.
So it's more of like I askedthem, like how they feel about being
in the Bronx and everything else inthe music in the Bronx. And it's
funny talk. You're talking a bigla. It's me and my man.

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What's the main top like what youtalking about? So really, so the
name of it is I want toknow Rapture TV. So, but want
to know rapture. Rapture is rapand culture put together. So it's anything
anything I was thinking you were doing, like reed TYPEE. I was thinking
it's rapture one to no Raps tothe One and Only Rap Culture TV's just

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something that we had you on beforewhen we were the e J podcast.
You didn't say that. No,I didn't got mass So we're terrible for
that. No podcast exactly as hell, that's awesome the podcast TV. I
actually scheme. I do like that, sure talking about but yeah, so

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we did that, and it's basicallyanything that involves rap and culture as a
man, because when we go aroundwe do like this when it's just basically
talk rap music, sports and asmuch people think sports is highly involved in
the rap, it is for sure, and it's a sport rap as well.

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Hip hop hip hop is a sportsexpetition. Competition is probably more competition
than sports could be at times.At times it is at times right now
right now with competitive what I mean, what I mean is like there's always
beef and hip hop as opposed tolike sports. Sometimes you know, is

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there always beef though always yes,it's always subliminalis subliminals, yes, but
that's not what there's also different timesof beef that we don't really something that's
contrive because if you if you takea dive into drum music in the Chicago
scene. It's real. That's that'sa whole That's what I was going to
say. They have real beef thatsome genres that are made to it's street

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beef to compete with the other subgenre literally you know. So that's kind
of crazy and you got to thinkabout it. U r L or anybody
in battle leagues a lot of alot of stage I feel, Yeah,
they sit down lately and they canget up there told to argue with each

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other. That's just up the battle. But that's what beef is. Though
a lot of people they like tomisconstrue the word and they like to blow
it out of proportions. If it'srap beef doesn't mean somebody's gonna get all
definitely, you know what I'm saying, Like we're not. It's not the
only one real beef like hip hopbeef that actually got physical was I think
the fifty and Joy rule like thatwas the only when they got I can

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think of the Bigger Tube. Ididn't get physical. And because no one
knows who did what, Yeah Istarted that started riots and ship it did,
but that was not between them twobetween the artists. Because there's proof
that fifty and Joy rules. Theybanged, They had a bang out,
They fought at least twice, let'sthink about it. One of them locked

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up in the hotel and couldn't leavehis hotel, so somebody came picked him
up. But still did he needthat is physical happened? No? No,
No, he was with Diddy.Here's what he wass know you're talking
about later, he was with Diddyin a hotel. Yeah, we're getto

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meeting potatoes of the Kendrick and Drinkbeef. I want to talk about Diddy
a little bit because that video surfacelast night. That was disturbing. I
texted you in the second. Iseen that at like five three in the
morning. Yeah, I saw that. I be telling everybody, p Diddy's
a shady character. I hated himsince we knew that. Yeah. In

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fact, Yo, I always hada problem with Diddy. I don't know
what I know. I want youto explain it because it's like I think
you have a problem with any butnone of this came to light. So
you know, because of all hisantics like shine him and j Cole to
a physical altercation, kid cut hiscar or something. He tried to blow

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out about that. Yeah, that'swho do you slap? I forgot he
slapped, wasn't it? What doyou slap? Drake? Drake? I
heard about that one. Again,this is all lately five to six.
But that's but that's that's the eraof video footage. Yeah, exactly,

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this back in the days. Yeah, it's not something you start doing overnight,
you know, yeah, exactly,it's it's uh, what's the wanted
a pattern pattern? Yeah, sorry, I don't know. Church the whole
the whole shining thing was. Yeah, that's that was set off right there.
Shine's good now, Yes, yeah, he said he's like a senator
or something. I believe. Ibelieve. Yeah, it's making good money.

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Yeah, he got all the Diddymoney pretty sure. Yeah he's good
now. A couple of million dollarsto do ten years and it's gotta be
a million of year. Yeah yeah, I would say yeah back then,
nine two thousand, I'm like,yeah, a million a year for ten
years, that sounds good back then. Now it's nothing. I don't know.
That sounds good right now is something? But back then ten mill in

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ninety nine was a lot. Ido. That's a lot. I do
that right now, I was thinkingthis was my boss. No, no,
ten mill ten years, No,No, I'm just kidding. I
was not really, Yeah, Iwould. Are you doing it? Ten
years in jail? Ten years injail for ten maybies? Yeah? You
know the average person makes a millionin the lifetime. Yeah, yeah,

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you you. I understand they sayyou're making ten life, you're making ten
lifetime. You're right for ten.I'm a mention of time, so much
real ship, I'm gonna do ittime. I'm gonna get out and I'm
gonna just go fuck like crazy everybody. After three jail, you're good.
Good. Yeah, you could bemissing the leg. Hey, I'm just

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saying, but ten ten millions,ten million for ten years, as I
think that's maybe twenty. I'm notsaying okay, so I'm not saying that
just going to get you old.I'm not saying jail stinks. I'm not
saying I'm not horrible. I'm notsaying there say that's gonna suck. I'm
not saying I would do it.But it's mathematically yea, mathematically correct.

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I get you my yeah, mymorality. It says, no, I'm
morally my lifestyles. So you cango like six not the fuck him.
But anyways, you got a millionor you never go out. I mean,
that's not that's not even a choice. That's not a choice. That's

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not a choice. I'll take theten. I'll take the time with zero
dollars in that scenario. But ifsomebody you don't over over snitch team,
so you're gonna take the ten.Ten million is involved, Phil, I

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ain't snitching, period. I'll takea hundred years over snitch words on that.
On that topic, Okay, afterwe'll get it to the stuff,
let's go. I want to justfor the record, I'm not a snitch.
I have never snitched. I've beenin situations where I could have snitched.
I'm not. You know, wefrom the brand. The brand is

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not the worst place in the world, but it's not the true smarts in
the brain. So with six nine, I feel like, all right,
so I feel like the only theonly time is really bad to snitch is
like if you played part it right, there's a difference between civilians. He

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is he really snitch? And thisis questions. I'm not saying I'm not,
but this this really snitching. Ifthose dudes were against him, if
he's in it, in some way. No, no, no, like
Sammy the Bull snitched on John Gottiand so and they were, but they
sent a podcast. He's making money. And that's different though, because he

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was involved. Yeah, but itwasn't. Six nine wasn't involved with I
thought six nine was involved. Hedefinitely was. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.Okay, so he was involved. Yeah,
yeah, that's what I'm saying.He put he had one of the
dudes put a hit on the lastthing I heard was like, pretty they
like kidnapped. They didn't. Theydidn't. They tried that they had too

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much money not to be able todo anything after the Okay, but he
had got one of them. Theirwhole indictment was on six not basically whatever
whatever whatever six nine said was basicallywas like, Okay, his word is
bond, so we're gonna didn't didn't. That's gonna use him as a big
reason why everybody else is gat didn'tsix nine on a dude that the dude

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he told the dude to commit amurder, like he she said, say
I sent you out to commit amurder, you commit a murder. I
snitch on you. Didn't you dothat? Yeah, I mean because I'm
saying there's there's a lot more tohis camp. Yo, his camp was
storing him. Yea facta the girl. But he wanted to be in the
streets. I mean that's you're inthe streets or you're a civilian. And

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it's like, like I said,like, you know, the streets.
I'm not gonna say the street mebecause I'm not really I wanted to consent
myself street, but the streets smartme want to snitch. But at the
same time, I'd be like ya, I really want to say, yeah,
you know, somebody not knowing.But if you you heard he heard

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of somebody and he shot somebody,you're not going to do it. It
depends. It depends. So somebodyshot your friend and you was him,
you're not if it depends if you'reit was, if you're I'm gonna break
this down right, So being beinghow being how I was raised, if

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you saw your boy gets shocked bysomebody else, what and you got a
family, what makes him not comeafter you or your family to shut you
up? Okay, Yeah, Ihear that. There's there's there's too many
consequences for everything else. And andLife and Death is not worth being a
title tale. And so I thoughtthis was the direction you was about to
take it. But also when we'retalking about when you're really into that,

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you know, gang life activity andstuff like that, you're not gonna snitch
before you decide to take matters intoyour own hand. That too understanding.
So that's actually I understand that situationbecause sometimes yeah, yeah, but hey
listen, sometimes that's what the situationis. You're not accomplishing it. This

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ship happened, Yeah, so accomplished. But it's just stuff. Is this
you're saying. But I get whatyou're saying. I stick. I stick
with not snitching. I got milk, yeah, or snitch, no question
me, no question. I'm takingit. It's gonna be good. You

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know, I'm taking it. Thisis gonna live universities. I'm saying,
it's not gonna go way. He'sgonna look what six nine is right now,
you're doing exactly. He tried tomake a little comeback, but look
at him now, and he triedhe tried to advertise that snitching. Yeah
about it, Yeah definitely, hesaid. You've seen the video where he

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had the rat. Yeah, cloudmake millions. He's making money off of
it, which sucks. Sad makea moment, yeah, YouTube. But
this generation now that like looks upto six, Yeah, they don't give
sad and unfortunate. Yeah, it'strue. They don't care about the generation

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X. I think so, Idon't know whatever. You want to look
up to him and he's making moneyoff that, Yeah, I can't be
mad at the money he's making offit. I'll be mad at him,
like that sucks. That's yeah,but that situation. Yeah, definitely capitalize
on it. But that's what it's. You shouldn't have the opportunity to capitalize
it because you shouldn't have done it. Exactly. Conversation over all, Right,

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so to what we are here forthe podcast Kendrick versus Drake. Everybody's
talking about it. Huh. Everybody'stalking about it. Everybody loves it.
Everybody has a horse and a race. Not everybody gonna say, don't send
me. Honestly, it's like,yeah, you're just gonna play Devil's I

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am gonna play Devil's advocations. I'mgonna call it kind. I'm gonna your
kind. How do I want tosay do say that I'm impartial to who
this beef. Who's the winner orwho's the loser. I could care less,
but I think it's good or hiphop because it's getting a lot of

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real quick. It got mentioned onthe Tom Brady Roast it said somebody had
what was the joke? I thinkit was it was Jeff Ross or Schultz
Andrew Schultz. Somebody said you gotmore attention than you got more black man
attention or something than this kend drinkand Drake beef. To say the least.

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It was mentioned in the Tom BradyRoast, which was awesome. By
the way, It's hilarious. Yougotta watch it. Nicky Lazer was one
of my favorites. Andrew shows didreally good. Jeff Ross is one of
the ogs. He did good,but he got told to shut the hell
out by Brady, which was hilariousfor you know, talking about his dad

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about Craft and I gotta say somethingabout that real quick. It's Bob Kraft.
Why can't we make fun of that. It's a no holds barred Why
did Brady put that in that nobodycould mention Craft? He was hold on
this. This was serious, likehe really told him, Yeah, I
don't do that ship again. Literally, he went into this to the mic

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where Jeff rof Jeff Ross was,don't say that ship again, you said,
yeah, I mean I think it'sit's the love and respect you Robert
Kraft talking about his sister. No, Robert Kraft, the owner of the
Patriot, because he's daddy watching.They probably cut it from the main feet.
I swear it, but it happened. He said something about happy endings

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with Bob Craft, and Tom Bradywalked up to the to the Michael Jeff
Ross was and said, don't dothat ship again. Literally that that was
one of the stipulations that Brady putin. I'll do this, but no
happy ending jokes about Bob Kraft andthat he was going on, and that
should be it's it should be onthe table. It's it's a road.

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Everything and anything related to that person. If we're talking about Tom Brady,
we'll talking about Bomcrat, talk checksabout ground, talking about Edelman for sure,
everybody. If it's about far,we're gona talk about his you know
Overlosse addiction, we're talking about hiswife. We'll talk about the the vikings
to talk about the backers, whatever, everything is on the table to put
that in, you know, whydo it? You know what it may
be. It may have to dosomething with the investigation. Is it not

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over yet? That's all the ship. I don't think it is regardless that
that that I have not one hundredpercent show on that. But that's what
I think it is. I'm notentirely sure that that investigation is settled.
Still. Is Tom Brady like thaton it? He is here? Maybe
he wasn't Vould. I don't know. Maybe he was what I'm saying as
well along you know, inside raftin the back of the massage problem the

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Patriots anymore, Who cares unless he'sin it? Definitely, that's hilarious.
That is hilarious. You're on bluetooth. I'm gonna take it off. Yeah,
So anyway, that was hilarious.But that's how much this Yeah Beef
has given hip hop. Like peopleare looking at it and it's bringing a
lot of people that don't listening tohip hop now coming back to hip hop.

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I don't want those people, Iagree, but just for the genre,
I love it. Yeah, that'swhat I got real quick. That's
gonna lead to people, Yeah,going in doing some research. Drake looking
back and Drakes song on a Drakesong he had research, Yeah, not
research, but yeah, looking back, and it's for the person that's not

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the average thing I got you.So they're gonna be like, who's Drake
music? Everybody? Who's this person? Let me listening to those people that
it's gonna lead down the rabbit holeof different artists. But that's just views
and likes for everybody, I guess. But this is this is what big
picture. It probably not happened like, but I know I agree that it's
awesome for hip hop, so I'llagree, like it's definitely the biggest beef

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and hip hop right now. Wellever not ever, no, no,
it's ever ever ever, Yes,I don't ever ever if you you were
too young, if to live,if Kendrick or Drake was, because I
could, I could right now,Bro, I know you couldn't say that,
say that. I know what whatdoes that have to do with young?

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He does living it? No?No, no, no, listen,
listen, listen to me. Letme break it down, let me
break it down. Let me breakit down at a higher level. Break
let me break it down. Letme break it down culture wise, Yes,
let me break it down wise.This is why is the biggest.
This is why that beef was talkingeverywhere, right, no matter why you

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wait, this was talked about likecrazy, this was this is not a
higher plan. I wonder this iswhy this is talking about because twenty four
this is why is the biggest.This is why is the biggest beef and
hip hop right now. This iswhy the biggest beef in hip hop right
now? You know what, yes, you know of all time I saw.
You can't convince me because when cameout though, when Ether came out,

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hip hop was not this big,right, but y'all are talking about
the Hurst so bad was big foryou. Hip Hop was big for me.
Hip Hop was big for media.Is bigger now. So it's not
fair to no, no, dude, hip hop makes it bigger. W
hip Hop is the number one genreright now. When Ether came out,

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it wasn't my nineties. It wasit might have been early two thousand and
one, early in the nineties.Hip hop hit the creation of like hip
hop nineties, but this was twothousand and one, early two thousand,
late the nineties was the was thehip hop has him. I know what
you're trying to say. Country wasthe number one worldwide genre for like years,

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took that over race recently. Rightnow, I think it's yeah,
that's the same. That's the sameat all. You know, I can
the fact like a fact check this. I'm googling it right now. Blad
TV had an interview if somebody forgothis name, I hate Blad TV had
an interview with somebody and it hadthe same argument. They was just like,
oh, yeah, you know whenhip hop wasn't that big, And

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the guy, basically I think he'sa comedian, basically told ticket girling,
basically told him the cap to shutto shut up, because at then,
in the time of the nineties nineties, hip hop was the biggest thing out.
At that time, hip hibbit thehibbit, sorry, not worldwide,
but definitely like New York music andlook it up and music or and culture

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like no, no, No,and you worldwide. Hip hop is the
biggest worldwide came out. Yeah,I love you might agree with you.
I love takeover. I'm not sayingit wasn't It wasn't a significant I'm talking
about yo. Now hip hop isnumber one. Hip Hop is number one.
It's been number one for the pastten fifteen years. Ten Yes,

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worldwide. No Regaton is in therefor a few years, maybe more,
and it probably still is in theUnited States. Let's bet on it.
I will bet on it. Youwant to know why, you will know
why. Let's let's talk about badBunny real quick. What what kind of
music do you make? Hip hop? That bunny exactly everything that Bunny makes

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track. But it's that's hip hop. Bro okay, Spanish music, that's
hip it is number one. No, that's hip hop in a different language.
You got skeptic in u K.They got they got UK artists attists
doing hip Hop's Australian artists. Ilike to you got Toronto artists doing hip
hop. It's still hip hop.It's just in a different language. You
got Australian artists. It gets wasAustralian. She shuns it gets to bring

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her up. But I'm just saying, I'm just making I'm just making a
reference. You know, different areasof the world hip hop. It only
talks about bunny. Bunny make whichis the and then he makes hip hop
trap. You understand. So it'sjust understand that. But it doesn't fall

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under hip hop. Okay, butthey but yeah, but they make they
misconstrue that ship all the time becausethey said, but they say post maloneas
I don't think they say post Maloneis a hip hop artist. Man,
I don't even know. Then hesays he's not. He says, you
understand. So that's that's a misconceptionright there. You know, it all

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depends. Sometimes you can't really listento that. I mean, but at
the same time, as the USgoes, the world goes music wise,
like we're pop culture wise, we'rekind of I mean, I guess,
I guess it's changing like Japan andI mean, we're getting into all different.
You see them k pop. Youever see the tacks of like this.
It's like an Indian rapper. No, they're going you don't know what

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they say. There's some some hardship. I want to slop, he
says, some hard ship. Theybrought it back to like the early the
mid two thousands when we meet milltype thing, because Dave was rapping and
his whole was finishing his sentence withhim like this reminds me of and everybody
you always see that comments like yo, I don't understand, we say,

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but yeah, but he's spinning.Yeah, Yo, there's this girl I
think her name is Sonia Gabana.Fire's gonna say. I gotta show you
guys later. I definitely want tosee. It's the same thing. I
don't speak a lick of Spanish,but she is spinning. That's all I
tell right, you can just tellme what's going I feeling for me.
Females right now, snow the productslike my favorite. Yeah. We were

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having a conversation before about females.Love you love underground artists, bron or
a singer? What do you love? What's wrong with you? I love
the genius? Wrong with you?Love the Genie. The last female artist
rapper that I could say that Ilistened to. I like Steph. I

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never heard that I like I don'teven know who that is who I liked
Steph? Did you make an artists? Syd Rocket Rocks my favorite remy Yeah
always goes you always love the Shaneyou know that makes really good? Yeah,
one of my favorites. But thequestion themselves in what category did they

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put themselves on? So did youever find that you find it was the
number one? It only talks aboutus. I can't find about the world.
Really, Yeah, I don't talkto There was an article on it.
It was I want to say,two years ago, I tried biggest
genre in the world. Oh,I was only looking about hip hop.
I mean that was that was whenthat Donald Mars song came on. What
was it? It was that onesong. It was the years that it

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went like this. It was aquick spike that Bunny was carrying. It
was no Bundy, and soon Iwas carrying the genre. It was them
too. And uh, I'm notI'm not against that because there is a
lot of Hispanic Latino countries, Brazil, all the ship pops the most popular

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music. Yeah, no ship yejust type in everything. What you type
in the biggest genre of music worldwide? Well, type in what was the
biggest genre of music in the nineties. Okay, I'm currio. I'm curious
to see what it was. Wellwhen I looked up, I looked up
and said, fire bro, I'mhard to find about that. I played

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a big part of it. Wasthat was good Johnny and you know Citia
and all them. I probably gotthem all wrong. But so yeah,
let's get back on topic. Thisis what we can't to do. And
I love that we just talk randomand it just leads to different things.
I mean, we're not trying tostay focused when we're here. Culture.
Yeah, I like that. Ilove it. I actually love it now

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that you explained it, I actuallyreally love it. I figured out the
word, by the way, manteau. That's when you combine your words wrap.
What's it called portmanteau, Like likewhen they combined like two celebrities names
and it's a kid or something.Yeah, like, yeah, you know
what I'm talking about. Let's getback to topic. Yeah, we're going
to facts. Like I said,it is a good thing. It means,

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you know, good. But buteither way, hip hop is big
right now because of his bea.So I love it. I love all.
We're not doing no neutral ship.We're going right down the middle.
I might push it. We're notDrake. You're picking Drake. No.

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I mean I told you guys,guys still over here. So he did.
He did tell me no, butyou kind of I felt like he
was kind of leaning towards Drake.He wants to play devils that the way.
Yeah, getting really good at that. I get what I wrote down.
It won't be today because so justfor the podcast, we were listening
to all this. This is right. Listen to all the tracks. You

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guys know more about it than Ido because you guys follow the Kendrick.
You guys, I'm assuming you followDrake because you know some of the things
that were aimed at Drake. Sowhat I wrote down from listening to it
is, where's my page power Drake? He's so big, he's Oh my
gosh. We can't never and youthought that I was God. You can't

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say that. I would respect saidthat would be Yeah, that makes it
work. He said what he mightas well have said, Well, big
d is just big. That definitelyon Drake's team. Huh. Might have
been slurping on the rock bottle.Hey, you that's the power of Drake,
because you can't say that, allright, No, no doubt like

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the power of Drake because you saidit. It's you. It's this song.
But you'll hear it in the club. Yeah, you're hearing the club.
You hear at the bar, youhear it on the mainstream radio,
you might, you might hear it. You won't hear the Kendrick. This
is on mainstream radio except only oncertain times. Chiner that you hear that

(30:15):
in the club. You only hearthat when they're talking about it on the
radiotation, but you'll hear the Drakesong in rotation. Drake songs will be
on the rotation. I just wentout last night and I got one Drake
song like that and then the recentbeating rot in his moment, and he
will be to bar talking about whenlike a club like people playing music.
You won't hear that. We weknow, Yeah, you were in the

(30:40):
Bronx. We know that. Iwas at Harford. Then I went to
West Harford. We know this again, it's West Harford. I don't know
what they can listen to. Ourday is not Drake or you don't even
gout. It's West playing at mybedroom. So that bro, that's it.
The center tips blue back, Yes, but it's not blue Bag.

(31:03):
It's running next to that. It'son Well, the bars and the restaurants
are the center of the center ofwhat's our or whatever the hell it's called
something. I got an alliteration ofwhat I'm saying. That's the power of
Drake. He definitely didn't win thebattle. But the long run, baby,
I mean no, no, becauseyou'll still hear his song rotation.

(31:26):
Rebuttle that right, good kid?Mad City is the longest is the longest
album on streams and the charts inhistory. Can you still play it on
the radio. Yes, it's stillwhere it is. You're still here on
the radio. Radio don't matter nomore. We talking about streams. It
does matter because radio is still upand running until radio does matter streams first

(31:48):
of all, back Backseat, FreeStyle, Good Kid, Mad City on
the way over here. Added tothat, I was listening to back Street.
Can we define the like I feellike, yo? But radio,
if you turn on Hot ninety sevenright now, you're gonna hear that on
rotation, you like DJ show,you're hear not like right now. No,

(32:12):
but that's what I'm saying. Butthey don't regular rotation. We're talking
about a special break show or aspecial DJ coming in fits for y'all.
I'm gonna play these new hits.Radio shows only play the top hits at
the moment. I don't. Theydon't have that. That's not rotation,
that's not top forty rotation. Butsee, but that's what But that's the
point. The radios don't account ofThey don't account for the most music played

(32:36):
anymore. Most people don't. Mostpeople don't listen to the radio that much.
Anymore. They don't. Nobody listensto Spotify. You enough people listen
to it because it's still They hearonce and if they like the song,
they immediately go up. I'm gonnarebuttle that. You said, enough people
listen to the radio, right,that's still up and running. If it
wasn't, it would just be serious, it'd just be Spotify, It just

(32:58):
be Apple that it. I mean, that's the thing though. Radio radio
is getting played it off and it'sstill up and running. It depends on
what we're talking about, like realhip hop. Like hip hop lyricists are
gonna say Kendrick one and and Drakeand you know, because you'll hear more
drink of the radio than Kendrick,right, and we're gonna talk about like
Kendrick more than drinks. There islike ten stations that I have very very

(33:23):
low views that's still on. Yeahfor sure, Like, yeah, I
hear it. I'm just agreeing.But I've just seen I've just seen a
thing of Connecticut. I'll have myphone on the unfortunately right now. But
yeah, one of them, yeah, one of them. One of them
is old school, old school musicnearly has any play, but it's still

(33:47):
but it's still being played on theradio. People people love what they know,
they love to do stuff. Butthat's that's the minority. That's not
the majority. Yeah, I knowthey want to hear, so it's not
getting so it's not getting played often. It's just there. Wait as a
radio station, they're just there interviews. Yeah, I was gonna say,
what are we talking about against anotherone? No, why I do?

(34:14):
It's on the second floor. Goasside, we need the booties. Maybe
pick a tree, you're good.Pick a tree, you're good, right
behind your car. Probably not onthe concrete though, come on, right.
But yeah, as I was saying, the minority and the majority is

(34:35):
different. You don't have to havea bunch of listens in order to stay
afloat. No, right, butyou gotta have a dot that's the thing
is we're talking about. But it'snot comparing to the streams. Actually is
gonna shut you down if you don'thave enough people listen to your station,
what's the point. But comparing theradio stations to streams is crazy because you
don't know. Yeah, so thestreams is like the majority now when people

(35:00):
compared to listen to now is streamBut I'm just assuming does not. Doesn't
Drake have more streams than Kendrick KamarNo, no, I mean I feel
like he has not we're talking aboutwe're talking about like replay value. But
yes, technically yes, overall hedoes, but replay yeah sure, yes,
but he does not have the longevity. Yeah, okay, Kendrick does,

(35:22):
and I don't care what nobody says. But as long as Kendrick,
because Drake doesn't have an album that'sbeen on there the longest in history,
I mean replay, yes, butas long as Drake is breathing, he's
going to be pumping out these garbagehits. Absolutely. Yeah, right,
so he's gonna I'm not I'm notgoing to call it garbage. I mean
the club. Yeah, yeah,I got you. I feel I was.

(35:47):
I was the last It's in myhead for ever. I was.
I was the last night Snapchat.I went crazy because Drake. Right now,
Team KENDRICKT with Drake. Actually,I don't. I don't pedophile.
This is true. I do notlike that. Yeah, do not like
this sucks even though he might notbe, he might not be an actual

(36:12):
pedophile. I know, blah blahblah. Video it's not just a video
I'm sorry, what are you?Are you allowing a grown ass man that
text your daughter fourteen year old daughter? Definitely? Hell no, what definitely
not to give her advice on boys, Definitely, I give her the advice
on the boys. Yeah, stayaway. Exactly, I'm not giving a
grown ass man. I'm allowing agrown ass man to be in communication with

(36:37):
my daughter and give her and talkingabout I miss you, talking about I
miss you. Yeah, that's crazy. What I don't know exactly, that's
weird. That's that's number one.Yes, I agree, I mean I
don't like there's there's a bunch ofAlso, he don't write his own lyrics
the end period giving Victor Kendrick Lamar. But we were talking about compared was

(37:01):
comparing like views on radio stations,streams, streaming, streaming on top right,
Yeah, of course, how toget to that? Why? Yeah,
I mean there's a million reasons hedoesn't write his own stuff. He
gets helped. This is the bigI mean, that's stuff I don't care.
Part. I don't care about that. It depends on if you want

(37:23):
views or your so hipp you don'tcare about Will Smith ghostwriters? Well Smith
had ghost writers. I don't carethis. This is Will Smith had like
sometimes fire, I'm still two ofus. You know, you know who's
you know who gets the killing forme? For that? Will Smith?
So his ghost writers, that's whatthat's messed up because now is wrote Miami.

(37:45):
I think it's Miami one of thoseor just the two of us for
Will Smith a Grammy? So Smithdoes so wrote those songs for him?
Why don he write himself for himself? That's what a ghost writer does.
That exactly one he got paid orit's good, but I doubt that.
It's just he didn't get a Gramtybefore it the reason the reason why I

(38:09):
I stopped listening. Okay, SoI was a Drake fan, big Drake
fan until if you're reading this sadly, but if you're reading yo, I
like. I like Drake's humble beginnings. That's what I like. Is it
really the humble though? If youlisten to Comeback Season? He was a

(38:30):
very humble, humble artist, humblerapper. He personally, when I find
out, when I find an artistthat I like and I listened to,
I listened to something that's relatable.I like humble. You know, I
can't relate to the movies I don'tgot me. But he didn't. He
didn't, That's what I'm saying.Though he wasn't. He didn't start out

(38:52):
rapping like that. He didn't startout rapping about the millions that he making
and all the bitches. He didn'tstart out like that. Dude. If
you listen to Comeback Season, thatwas very lyrically. That was one of
his I don't know before his firstbefore his first album was I mean,
what was that? I don't evenknow, like twenty ten, but that

(39:12):
that's how far i've probably years ago, broke years ago, years ago,
thousand and eight, okay, Igot yeah, like your money, yeah
I do remember. Yeah, sowow, before before sus stopped listening to
him after I look, well,being a fan after if you're reading this,
always too then, always too dimto see, like, yo,

(39:34):
let's see what he got because wecan't deny he makes good music. Yeah,
he makes him big, makes thehits. Yeah, of course,
of course, he makes the melodicship, he makes the catches mainstream.
We can't deny that. So yeah, I would always tune in, but
not as a fan. As acritic, understand, I don't even and
to be honest that I would alwaysI would always tune in hopeing like,

(39:57):
yo, maybe maybe this album isgonna go back to his humble roots.
You know what I'm saying, alwayshoping for that. Got to move forward,
you can't move back. Yeah,people want I want you rapp like
I don't want. I don't Iwant what I want. Yeah, it's
true who was the people evolve people? But this is the issue though,

(40:20):
Even Drake went backwards that you wantto hear, you want to hear go
back to the old Drake went back, you want to you want to hear
my ole ship? You understand Drakewent backwards because I don't follow Drakes.
I actually don't know you. Youbrought up etminem Eminem. When he first
came out, he was young,wow, talking about drugs, talking about

(40:47):
SIPs off the ship. He's notrapping about that. He's more mature and
I don't like him anymore. Z. When he first came out hustling gang
gang like you know street Light comeout with four family orientated business man.
I mean, it's main it's madefrom humble. He's been yeah, you're

(41:10):
right, right, you're right,definitely, no, but he's been off.
He's been off that whole drug stufffor a while. Yeah, great,
goes from the humble lifestyle because comebackseason, thank me later, all
humble albums, take care, allhumble sensitive sensitive topics to Atlanta, gainst

(41:32):
it. That's also why, that'salso why, this is why he's disliked.
This is why he's hated. Imean, Chris brown Blood now he's
been he's been there. He isthe biggest culture vulture out there. Yeah,
I agree, And that's that's thetopic that But the whole culture vultures,
the whole issue that Kendrick has,the culture vultures cell mm hmm.

(41:52):
Period. I mean, I don'tknow what that counts for in this conversation,
but it's funny. No, no, no, no, it does.
There's not la Yeah, there's nota lot of culture. You're right,
you're right. I agree, andyou know what I do agree,
Rick Ross could be to oh mygosh, he stole hit him up.

(42:20):
Let me get to that. Butbut but that's let me let me get
to that. I'm tired of peopletalking about this for y'all to I'm tired
of y'all talking about c O.I know, I know that's not the
point. So what's so why bringit up? Because he stole the real,
real Rick Ross's name and identity anddidn't pay the man when he said

(42:43):
he would. He thought the realRick Ross was gonna stay. He thought
he was gonna stand out for life, and then the real did some did.
Where's the original Ross? He's hawkingT shirts exactly, he doesn't.
It doesn't matter anymore. But itdoesn't. My heart doesn't mean that.
The Rick doesn't mean Rick Ross wasn'tgangst you. I know, I know

(43:07):
c os that came, that took, that went because the street life is
behind him. This is the keypoint, though. Rick Ross didn't fake
his persona though yeah how the windknow that for sure, But he stole
the real because he is make singhe was a CEO. He doesn't hide
it, but he doesn't hide it. But because Fifty said it, he
didn't come out and say it.Fifty called him out on it years later.

(43:27):
He was like, oh, yeahit was, but he's what what
is? What is a man rappingabout the street life have to bring up
that he was a CEO? Hecould have been you know who? He
was really hustling out there exactly whoknows? Who's know he wasn't, so
that's what that's why he got calledperson hustling. I personally know c os
that were working full time jobs andstill in the streets. Again, that's

(43:50):
understandable. Yeah, that's why Idon't like the whole c O thing.
Yeah, okay, sure, butit's not about him being a CEO.
It's about him stealing the railroad.You don't know what he was doing behind
closed doors. Yeah understand, that'sfine, but he told the real records.
I don't know what job and hekind of it kind of goes with
it, kind of makes sense.But a long time ago, that's different.
When we were there was a stepI'm not a step is what's what

(44:21):
they call him? Security guards?What we're talking about, fucking teacher feeling
feeling substitute trunk Already, there wasa substitute teacher that was on the news.
What was he doing? They founddrugs in his in his trunk.

(44:45):
Just breaking bad. That's the point, breaking bad point, that's the perfect
you know, just you just strengthenedmy argument. Yeah he was, but
we don't know what he's doing.But it doesn't I mean, for me,
it doesn't never do Okay, hewas never lifestyle. I know CEOs

(45:07):
that just became c os this pastyear that were in the streets the lives
I mean for selling work and everythingthat that that's the thing that's real.
But if they steal the name ofsomebody who they're that's different over and say
hey, I want to pay youthis money. This lifestyle, Yeah I
lived that life, right, butyou didn't know any because of selling work

(45:31):
freeway Yeah yeah, right, exactlysnitching, So it was all hypothetical.
So so just my question to youguys is one. I mean, I
mean that that's obvious. We haven'thad a record and what I wanted to
do this episode a couple of weeksago. That would have been the middle

(45:52):
of the beef out of miss alot of songs that came out. It
would have been like outdated. Thisis actually, this is actually there hasn't
been a song a couple of daysand at least a few days a week
a week, right, exactly twoweeks. So this was kind of late
to be honest. Yeah, butthen ships still ship is still surfacing.
Yeah, people are still That's whyepisode at the moment. Now this is

(46:15):
actually accusations. Yeahs of all,sorry to cut you off, DJ academics,
he started academic. I don't likehim. The reason for that is
because he defended He defended Homeboys somuch and now he's in Yeah, and
now he flipped real crazy. Thatwhat he does. He flipped crazy his

(46:37):
accusations that that hit him with.Did you hear about his whole seventeen in
college thing? Yes? I waslike, that's gross, that was wild.
Ecademics. DJ Academics said a coupleof years ago that in college,
a lot of a lot of students, you know, they end up seventeen

(46:57):
and in college, he said,as long as she had a college id,
she can get. Oh yeah,that's trash. You're you're scumpback.
So if you're twenty in college.Look at him, Yeah, he looked
like he does question. He alwayslooked weird. He looked like a pet.
I don't like academics. I don'tlike that. We can't even get

(47:21):
started on academics. I ain't gottime for that before we hold on.
While we're here, I'm my myrid is about to be here. So
James about signed off? Are you? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, I
mean it's bedtime for my rides,so yeah, for sure. But but
I'll be back next week, noquestion, so count on it, all
right, all right, James sendingoff, Yeah, good meet you guys

(47:45):
here, Yeah fucking rapture and TV. Yes sir, yeah you too.
I'll see you guys next week later. You asked, you said, you
said one. I mean, itdepends on how we define it. But
oh wait, oh recording. What'she's doing right now is crazy? What's

(48:19):
that noise? What's that moment comingwith? That's hilarious? Without a doubt
he won I think I think atthis point is the question is is how
damaging is this to Drake? Idon't think it is how what damage damaging
is to his character, to persona, to Drake? How will he be

(48:43):
able to recover? He'll be ableto cover just because Drake is Drake exactly.
He's gonna make the millions of He'lldrop one hit next week and he'll
be good. Everybody will forget he'snot dropping the main The main street will
forget about it, at least notthe hip hop heads will forget about it.
If he takes the longer he takesto drop, the worst it gets
for him. Not not drop ofthis. I'm just talking about in general,

(49:05):
the longer, the longer it takesfor him to drop, the worst
it gets for him. So he'lldrop a hit he has some some subliminals
in it, and everybody will forgetit. He needs to drop, he
needs to He's that big. He'sthat big. The longer, the longer,
the longer he'll bounce back. Ifit depends on the timeframe jay Z
bounced back after, if he responds, if he makes responds like makes,

(49:30):
it makes the song. It's asong, not a distract. It don't
have to be a distract if hestarts making if he starts making music soon
yet, because there's still a lotof people that think just for example,
like Nas and jay Z, there'sstill people that think that jay Z wanted
some people to think Nas one.Whatever the cases crowd, Yeah this this
is the same thing, No doubt, people think Drake one. People people,

(49:50):
a lot of people don't want tolisten to Okay, I gotta think
on music Doubleandre or why why ishe? But do you see that's what
he's wrong? Though? Thisorious shipactually made a lot of people on Twitter.
There's a lot of breakdown videos nowwhere kids were pulling up like yeah,
but Twitter, But Twitter was Twitterwas eating that up alive, talking

(50:10):
about who the hell wants to listento this? And nobody nobody plays That's
the main stream, right, that'sthose people. That's why this is where
the problem is. You want toknow the truth, you can't remember that.
Ever, that's the mainstream. Iremember that. I think how good
Kendrick is. I personally think thatthis is the beginning of the end for
Drake. I don't think so.I know. I'm not saying he's going

(50:32):
to be irrelevant tomorrow. Take thatback. You know why, I might
agree because Drake is fucking up somuch of his relationships. For example,
all the beefs he has, LikeI forgot about his beef with James Harden,
Tiger, all the all the DJs. Who cares about my drink with

(50:57):
James Harden? I was just saying, relationships, though, you're screwing up
with many. The reason he's aculture vulture is because he has to.
Yeah, people can't tell me.People can't tell me he doesn't have to
be a culture vulture. I don'tcare. Nobody says it's the only way
to stay relevant with his type ofmusic in today's day and age, because

(51:21):
if he kept the same style,same flow, it wouldn't happen. There's
only but there's only about a certainpeople and Drake is not one of them
that can do that. Cole andKendrick they can do that and stay with
their same styles for eternity and staythe same. He started as an actor,
not just an actor. He startedoff. He started off as an
actor grabbing cheeks. He started.Not that actually happened though he started.

(51:45):
He started as an actor. Ithink I did. He was he in
a in a in a show,in a movie or show like I shared
it on Facebook. He was grabbingcheeks. Drake was grabbing cheeks. I
mean that, that's his actors.Sometimes you got to do that. Were
they're underage cheeks? Were they ofage cheeks? Which? What kind of

(52:07):
cheeks? I don't want to comebecause I don't want to get canceled.
That's part of it's wrong with that. I'm just saying. As long as
definitely nothing wrong with that. Ijust gotta say that I don't want get
canceled. I don't do that.But it's not wrong with that. As
long as they're a page. Ifyou go that way, that's cool.
That's right. As long as theyare age. As long as there that

(52:31):
I stick with the women cheeks.But anyways, that's the problem is the
problem is is like what a Jsaid, he lost a lot of the
sources. And and actually, youknow what, I wanted to touch up
on this because when you was talkingabout earlier, you was talking about ghost
writers. Everybody else ghosts not everybody, not everybody, everybody to a certain

(52:55):
extent, if they're not ghost writers, they're proof writers. You understand what
I'm saying. Yes, so you'regonna tell me has a ghostwriter or a
proof reader? No? No,no, no, I'm not saying you
said everybody, Yeah you have toYeah, you got a ghost writer.

(53:15):
I can guarantee you NAS has ghostwritersand a proof reader. NAS has proof
readers. I guarantee every artist hasa proof reader. I guarantee you every
Okay, So by a ghostwriter,you don't you think he's gonna write down
a verse? Right? Just pictureit trying to verse. And he passed
it to me and said, yo, Mike, check that and let me
know how it is. I'm proofreading. I'm not gonna go and say that

(53:38):
ghost writer. Okay. So here'san idea. Okay, but that's what's
called a reference track. That's what'sa reference. So he's he's also idea.
Right, you write, you writea verse right versus fire. Your
homeboy is like, oh, Ithink if you I think if you switched
this word with this word, that'sghost writing. Now that's gonna helping out.

(54:00):
Not that you get credit for that. I doubt it for a word
you put that line versus if thatmakes that better. Yes, that's why
I don't. I don't not Drakefor that ghost writing ship. That's not
the problem I have. I don'thave to because he's still he's still actually

(54:24):
yes he multiple. Let me letme speak on this real quick before because
it's like funny because it's like,yeah, yeah, bringing up ship that
I want to touch on, allright. The reason why I remember I
told you, I just told youI was just you know, I just

(54:45):
told you. I just told youthat I was a Drake fan at one
point. What kind of made menot? And it's the same ship with
like if you're listening to logic,because logic does this ship a lot too.
He's a big culture too, butlook at it, we'll get it
to that. But he's a properculture vulture. He's not like Drake,

(55:06):
He's a he's a Can you considerhim? You can, you can't,
but we'll talk about that. Yeah, huge, Okay? Is that because
of what you guys said? Hecame out with practice and you you spit,
you saying juveniles whole verse? Likehe then the next CD is that

(55:28):
culture vulture? Or is it givenprops that's not giving or is it just
writing when as Drake does the dude, he was making full albums that were
all references. He was making fullalbums that had versus full versus of eminem

(55:51):
even Soldier boy like you you understand. So that's actually I was like,
I kind of don't like that.So that's when I started kind of like
I can't put sampling in there,as that's either paying homage or you just
like that much you want to putit in yourself to a level. Dude,
if you over if you over sample, yeah, if you over sampled,

(56:12):
over sampled, you can't. Youyou're telling me you're gonna have a
whole album samples? Why not?I know Kanye does it a lot.
Kanye does a lot of I alwaysfeel that Kanye was premiere a lot of
his beats are sampling from other songs. You just called Kanye overrated god,

(56:34):
college drop out, graduate, Graduationwas the last great Kanye we had.
You didn't like the Life of PabloA lot of people. I don't know
why. I love Guation, lovedit. Graduation was the last great Kanye.
When you split and then you makeeight a Ways and heartbreak and that's
ship, complete trash and people youtell people is amazing because I'm Kanye.

(57:06):
Yo, Gordon Ramsey king his songamazing, amazing. Gordon Ramsey can't sell
me, ship, can't serve me, ship and tell me is good because
it's Gordon ram You understand me.Eight Aways Yo, I I like the
reference. I'm just saying like it'sa good reference. Okay, cool?
Yeah, like Heartbreaks. You triedthat ship, but there's some songs.

(57:30):
Hold on, how many people actuallyalbums? You listened to the whole thing.
What I'm trying to say, though, Kanye, you went to a
different direction. You tried it.It sounded okay. Don't make it sound
like it was God's work. Andthat's what he does a lot. Bro.
That's because he calls myself a god. That's his mindset. Though he's
he's always been a little Kanye wasthe last best Kanye we had. I

(57:54):
liked I like the Life of Pabloa lot, like a lot what songs,
no trash, it like, He'sjust there's some songs I really like
it. I really like I'm notGonna Lie was the only good song on
that. No, there's there's acouple of good songs. I like I'm
not Gonna Lie. And plus alsothat mean that means you're also eliminated albums

(58:15):
with that was a teen night Thatwas a teen night sample. So you
didn't like the albums with him andjay Z, Washingt was okay, it
was good. Yeah, he heoutshine jay Z. Definitely. That wasn't
collapse. That's not just so whatthat's because it's a collapse. It's not
just it's not just him. Iagree, it's good. A lot of

(58:37):
the songs out there were really good. He outshines jay Z. I'll give
you you know, I'm not I'mnot this and Kanye, I'm Kanye.
I have every single hard copy album, certain songs he did. Definitely did
so. I have in waits.I was disappointed when I got it,
but I have it. I washappy. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed

(58:59):
any way, Yes, I likedI liked the life of pobys. Going
back to Drake over sampling can bea problem, you know what I mean,
because there's no it's like then thenit's like we're starting to question,
Yo, who's really you? What'sreally your son? That's that's that's not
him though, that's the Yeah,but he still Drake is you know what

(59:23):
he gots allowed to say on whatBC's for sure, definitely, but so
that that becomes a big question now. I was like, Yo, what's
your sound? And that's a lotof the questioning that he's going through.
Now why because Kendrick made that veryhe opened people's eyes to that. Yo.
You guys, you know, yournumber one artist is a culture role

(59:45):
to your number one artist is adude who has no sound. Your number
one artist is a dude who hashundreds of reference tracks, tons of ghostwriters,
you understand. So this is whyI'm saying, yeah, this is
the beginning of the end for Drake. I personally think so. And to
top it off, bro we,I haven't even talked about the Peedle ship.
I kind of don't even want totalk about that. It's just a

(01:00:07):
level disgusting exactly. I agree.No, it is terrible. It's terrible.
And I'm not saying he's doing somethingwith the little girls. Who knows,
who knows, No one knows,no one will ever know allegation,
But this is what the problem is. You of being a pedo. You
could sit here and be like,I didn't do that with these pictures.

(01:00:29):
The pictures vide weird is a videoto hold on people because people are like,
oh, that's a fake video.That video has been out for ages,
but now attention, Well it gotattention beforehand, but it's just not
as big as it is now becausebecause Ken drink and because of that goes
back to the attention hip hop isgetting me too. We never forgot about

(01:00:52):
it, Yeah, because because hewasn't the only one. I believe pusha
T is the one that brought itup to the whole Kylie ship where he
was like kissing up out Kylie hassix team Yeah on the cheek and like
that. That was texting a thirteenyear old like that was that was You
can't You shouldn't even be able toeven if the text messages are high.
You don't do that, ship yeah, I agree. You know that I

(01:01:13):
don't like that, so listen,that was that was my whole thing.
It was just it was that itwas a texting Millie Bobby Brown at fourteen.
We already know that you did.Bro, that's weird. That's weird,
though, ship. I don't careif you're an artist. I don't
care who you are. If you'retexting a fourteen year old, that's not
family, that's not related to you. They got nothing to do with you
in life. Besides, oh theymade a good TV show. That's that's

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weird. That that's weird. Sothat's what I say. Hugging up,
hugging on a seventeen year old talkingabout their like that, Bro, it's
crazy. You're ending. That's that'scareer ending stuff. Like you have partners.
You said you have to deal withNike. They're not gonna wait.
Let's say let's say Nike's the biggestone too. Like you just said,
they're real quick to drop it,but drink, but the real quick somebody.

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This is just the example. Let'ssay somebody did come out and say,
oh, yeah, he was talkingto me, he was messing around
with me while I was on theage. Now, he's going to court.
You think they're gonna wait, They'regonna wait to see what the verdict
is. They're gonna drop them,you know, mar Nobody wants to be

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next. This is this is whyI said that was the best thing j
Cole did. I gotta hear thatexactly why I said this was the best
decision Jake Cole did because Yo,before J Cole said, I'm sorry them
pedo allegations didn't come out yet,so now he has to do with that.

(01:02:40):
No, no, no, itdoesn't matter. You're defending someone that
has some pedo allegations, defending somebodythat's accused of a pedo I was this
is why this was the smartest shipj Cole did. See. I don't
think so. I'm refute that thereason, the reason for the reason for
that is because he could turned againsthim, You get what I'm saying.

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Maybe because maybe maybe he didn't knowthose allegations and he just you know,
because j Cole is not somebody that'son the internet, so he don't really
know details like that unless somebody tellshim. But then that's that he said,
she said, you're not gonna tellme when they they send him a

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ticket to the Grammys. He doesn'tattend. He doesn't. He only attendance.
He only attended one, and thatwas the one he got with.
That was one he got. Thatwas the one he got on with.
I don't even know if it wasa Grammy, but an award with They
all know each other. Yeah,so even though he's not out in the
he knows going on because he justgot his. He just got his first

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Grammy with Drake. Yeah, firstperson. Yeah, so he But regardless,
he knows a buzzy because he's He'sand he's also always referenced the Grammys.
That's another thing I wanted to getinto before before we finished with j
cole stuff, people mentioned that,oh, you know the Greays. You
don't listen to the Grammys no more, blah blah blah blah. Right,

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but Kendrick has over double your Grammesand he's eighty percent less active than you
are. So how does that makesense? Make that makes sense? You're
eighty percent less active than this personand he has over double the gray.
I'm not gonna be biased, andI when it comes to claiming the greatest,

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I say keep accolades and sales outof it. So that's that's gonna
pertain to even Kendrick. But yeah, okay, so but what I'm what
I'm my point is is that Drakeis jealous of the fact that that's why
he brought it up in the song. He's jealous of the fact of him
getting Grammy Kendrick. Kendrick said aword mighty give him somebody give him a

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Grammy. Jealous you're jealous of ityou make music? Or does he think
that Drake the Kendrick's not really sayingthat's what that's why, But that doesn't
make any sense. They don't seethis dude. One person in history to
have a Pulitzer for rap music,and that is Kendrick Lamar. That's not

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something that's just giving out. Yeah, definitely more important. And on top
of that, Kendrick is not speakingon like hose and he's alcoholism bottles.
Yeah, black Black Lives Matter movementor or you know, people going through
issues movements or relationship movement, relationshipproblems. He's speaking on people that stuff

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that everybody can relate to literally,and so that's something that you can get
a Grammy for, right, That'snot something that you could just Okay,
you got a pop song. Okay, you gotta hit. That's okay.
Everybody got hits, not everybody getsGrammys. That's yeah, you're right,

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yeah, but you're you're talking aboutsomebody because people throw sides. Because people
throw sides, we gotta we gotta, we gotta talk about He had a
five year hiatus, came back ona Grammy because of because of that.
In that five years, how manyGrammys did he didn't even catch up to
to Drake, I mean to toKendrick Lamar at all. He didn't now
that the j cole because they're notputting out content that is on the same

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waves, doesn't tell you how goodyou are, how bad you are.
It doesn't. But it's what peopleare listening to him, what they're relating
themselves to, is how I seeit. Because country music, well yeah,
they got a lot of grayments.But the reason for that is because
the majority of the people listen toGreen listen the country music. They're relating

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to country music. See that whatyou said, Because everybody listened to Drake,
but not everybody relates to Drake,relates to him, but cross nobody,
nobody's relating to Gross. That that'sweird. To me though, because
that's that's that's why I said Idon't count numbers. I get it.
I trust count sales. I don'tcount accolades. Don't trust when I don't

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either. Claim the great is whatI do. What I will count,
What I will compare is when Drakeand Kendrick do release music at the same
time, Kendrick always out sells himand Kendrick always out beat him that ALBUMILL
compare how many times it has happened? And do you have proof? I
want to see it. This isme and advocate. I want to see

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it. Every time he won aGrammy for his albums, Drake dropped an
album you can want to grab Meand that be the better person or better
album, Killer, Killer album consecutivelyKiller last year, Killer Mike last year
had one of them. He hadone of the best albums last year,
got agreement, but he beat outnow his album which was way better.

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And I heard both. I don'tthink yes the Juice four No Mike was
was Mike Mike? Yeah, thatwas right album. I don't think so.
I don't think better than that.And I'm gonna tell you why I'm
gonna I'm gonna tell you why Ithink it was three three is gonna I'm
gonna tell you why what Michael wasfired. I listened to it. I

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was like this, want to Grammyover now, let me listen to it.
And it was a couple of hewas snub we run the Jewels albums
though, yeah heard that long beenoff for ages. No, I know
he has, but that's not somebodyyou don't listen to listen to. You
don't list the Jewels. I don'tthink I've ever listened to them, never
said listen. It's just a duosLP and Mike killing Mike, I know,

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kill him. He's been around fora long time. Dude. That's
like real hip hop. That's likethe school hip hop today. Like it.
And he even had they have likea h quote unquote a third member,
which is Zach from Raging Rage ThemAgainst the Machines Fire. He's as

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two. I think you like him, I think you like kill Mike.
He's a good red. That albumwas awesome. He's something better than Magic
three. Okay, why not Magethree is awesome? Okay, the Magic
Three sound like the rest of them, because that's true, that's that's that's
called to be biased. But I'mmy my favorite all time is not I

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have more jay Z albums that wow? Why because I can't take now and
play him in the car you could? No, you can't, you could.
You're not good enough. Bump You'renot gonna roll your way him and
bump rewind in the Wi Bro.Of course it would see his of course

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way, his idea, because Iunderstand he's gonna girls girls, girls over
rewind. No, I'm gonna playtake I rather I rather play, I
rather play. I rather play hard, not life. I'll play. You
don't know you're gonna play it hardthat I'll play hard? Yes, yes,
yes, yes, yes, Ilove. This is why in a

(01:10:03):
car I'm going out, I'm goingout. I'm bumping hard at life before
one. Yes, crazy, I'mso aesthetic that he got with with hit
Boy. That's a great that's thegreatest three year run Drake NAS has always
picked as beats Bro wats his holdup great lyrics Nas shitty beats watch this.

(01:10:28):
How many NAS had a three yearrun? Right? Six albums?
Three years? Yeah? How manyGrammys did you win? Important? How
many Grammys you wing? Did hewin? Win? Yes? Or no?
I don't think he did. Hewon with Magic three. No King
Disease was a King's Disease two orthree one of those. If it was
two, I think it was twoKing's Disease. Where did Drake get Where

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did Drake get a Grammy that year? He didn't, but he also dropped.
I don't know why, because peopleprefer to listen to not just stuff
that relates to I guess exactly.That's that's the point hits. Hits don't
always equal Grammys. But this iswhy I don't care accolades, because it

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also depends on what is being released. There's times when Jake Cole and Kendrake
don't You don't hear from them.J Cole, you definitely hear from j
Cole, you don't hear, youhear he calls on his hiatuses. You
hear about him more than Kendrake,But you don't know because you don't hear

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about him as much as Drake.There's times when there's period nobody Drake's on
every year. This is referring tothe Big Three. There's there's periods of
times where both Kendrick and j No, there hasn't been for j Cole.
The reason for that is because ofhis features and the albums that he's putting
out for dream Veel Records. Dude, he's had three, I think three

(01:11:56):
dreamvel Records. What was album?What was his kal d album? What
do you mean? What was thisk the album? Ye? That was
like what twenty sixteen? Okay?What was the album before that? Uh?
That was not Forest Hills Drives?No, it was the one after
that just your Yours only? Ohyeah, I wasn't. I wasn't fan

(01:12:17):
of yours all? What was it? I wasn't a big fan of it?
What was it? What was That'snot the point though. What was
two years? Two years? Yeah, it's like twenty fourteen. Yeah.
Yeah. He was also on theMad Features after that, and he was
he was on a run for features, he was, But that's that's that's
Jacob's thing. He's on a runfor features for years and then started features
after in between kod and the thethe what's his last album? Which one?

(01:12:47):
The last one? The one?Yeah? Oh you're talking about you're
talking about Mike Mike Mike the Leelater or you're talking about the one before
that? No, one before that? Oh, you're talking about the one
where you have twe one Savage onto CA. Yeah, no, that
was that was a recent one.You might delete later he had, well,

(01:13:08):
yeah, he did came. Yeah, I don't remember him having came
another one. I don't I don'tknow, I don't know. I respect
that though, I liked I likethe fact that he had came on there
because I camp I like him.Trash camera. We're gonna go back to
this again about music though. We'retalking about like reals, like he's influential

(01:13:30):
regardless he had. Don't tell me, don't tell me he's not influential.
He made and he made men puton pink feather coats. I don't care.
Just because you don't care doesn't meanit's not doesn't happen. Just you're
you're being biased biased. Okay,he's not influential, is crazy? Might

(01:13:50):
saying again bias, you're being biasedwas tough. Yeah, but there's there's
gas in between that. Dreamville hemade albums with dream for Records. That's
a collect that's a collapse, that'ssomething he's producing album. The chances of
him getting a Grammy off of thatis very slim. Bro. Yeah,

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but yeah, but that's what that'swhat it's because it's what he wants.
Okay, compared to Drake though everyproblems in the year, he's doing everything
for himself. Okay, that's whatI'm saying. This is I'm just trying
to make a point. I'm notdisagreeing with my point I'm trying to make
is this is why I don't countaccolades and I don't count Grammys and stuff
because and in those periods where Drakedrops something and j Cole and Kendrick does

(01:14:36):
it, that increases the chances ofhim winning the Drake. But that's not
the case. He doesn't win thembecause he exactly has five and he's been
he's saying. I'm not saying thathe's won. I'm just saying that that
that regardless whether he wins or not, that increases his chances. But because

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what you're saying, because there's tooinfluential artists not even partaken in the Grammys,
that's what my point is. Thisit is Kendrick has twelve and he's
played less than him. That's mythat's my point. A J. I
understand what you're saying, but you'renot understandable I am. You're saying because
remember, there's award, there's Grammys, for Best Album. There's Grammy for

(01:15:24):
Best Best Song. You commit youcould win most, you could win multiple
Grammys in one year. Absolutely,Okay, yeah, you understand, So
that that's not that that's still now. That has nothing to do with what
I'm saying. Okay, so sowatch this. So if you have so
you're but you're saying, if youhave more music, it's more of a

(01:15:45):
chance to get a Grammy. That'swhat you're saying, right, No,
no, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm
saying that it is also dictated bywho's your opponent at that time. Dude.
Even album releases, they're strategically dropped. Absolutely. Jay Z had one

(01:16:08):
of the best strategies when it comesto his albums. You know when jay
Z would always drop holidays when peoplewould have money for albums. This was
I'm talking about back in the day. This is a this is a strategy.
This is why they're referring to allI bet you won't drop. They've
been they've been talking that ship orI Bet you won't drop with Taylor Swift

(01:16:30):
drop because they're not going to Nobodywants to do that. You get what
I'm saying. What I'm saying,I'm not talking about how much he won,
how much Drake wanted this and that. I'm not talking about whether he
did win or not. What I'msaying is a lot a lot of the
fans don't realize that, Oh youknow, he's number one on the charts.

(01:16:50):
He has this many songs, bro, but he also has three times
the amount of music. So howis that? How is that? How
is that something to be amazed about? But then when Kendrick and and j
Cole. Every time Kendrick drops,Drake loses to him. So what I'm
saying again, I'm gonna numbers forthat, numbers for that. You say

(01:17:13):
that I want to, I wantto side numbers. I don't. I
don't know if he does, becauseDrake's more grammy than him. He does
because every time, every time,it's different frommer that's different from numbers,
different numbers. That's that's what Idropped. But that's my point. Every
time Kendrick has dropped, Drake hasdropped that year drops every year exactly.
He has more music than he doesthan everybody exactly, and still has way

(01:17:41):
less. It's not just it's notit's it's it's a very hard charts.
He has higher charting who Drake hehas? He has way more number one
Sure yeah, sure, yes hedoes. Okay, so how are you
getting So that's that's my point,So how are you getting more? Grammy?
This is the thing thinks are AndI've actually agreed with him. This

(01:18:02):
is what's so funny. I agreewith him. So what I'm saying is
is the reason why he has thismany number one charts is because Kendrick don't
drop, not like that, notlike us that many times he's not,
He's not. That's I've been agreewith you this whole time. It's not

(01:18:23):
like it. I'm not gonna lie, it's not like it. But I'm
like, I've tried to I've triedto argue with this dude. I'm like,
bro, you're saying the same thing, and he's not like, you're
right, you got it. Butthis is what I've been telling This is
what I've been telling him. Drakefans, the fucking hardcore. You know,
he didn't tell him where he gothis APD from fans, Like I've

(01:18:43):
been telling him, dude, youguys are comparing you guys don't know how
to do your fucking ratios because ifDrake dropped the album every year for eight
years, but Kendrick dropped the albumonly four albums for their eight years,
but and he beats him in thecharts every time he drops. You know
what I'm saying. The only reasonfor Drake I can't say about that about

(01:19:06):
the charts things, just because theonly the only reason for Drake's like success
is because your only competitions are notdropping as frequently. You kind of get
what you get what I'm saying,But they're also not culture voting because Drake,
Drake bounces whatever's hot at the moment. Kendrick is quantity over quality over

(01:19:28):
quantity, absolutely Okay, he's quality, quality over preferred. You know,
you understand me. So, Andthat's that's the thing that this is why
you need the ghost writers, becausewhen you're trying to put out that much,
you know what, run out ofmaterial, but still on the material,
which is why I don't mind giveme the hits. I'm not I'm

(01:19:49):
not here in it for the money. If the love of hip hop and
love for the culture, that's that'sthat's done to me. That's done over
with him. But that's why I'ma problem it's not over with him.
Some people are saying, that's notup for the artists, that's up for
the listeners and also and also thecompany. Drake is always going to be

(01:20:10):
number one because he makes music foreverybody, and that's also up to the
music for you. He don't makemusic for me, He don't make music
for aging. He make music foreverybody. And here's an example he makes
and this is this is his winnerright here. This is where he wins.
He makes music for the female population. This is where he made me.
This that's where I meant. That'swhat I meant earlier when I said

(01:20:31):
the power of drink. There's gonnabe women singing notes. That's for the
females and women love that ship.You get women across the country singing this
song. The women I'm saying that, you know what I'm saying. Women
are singing Drake's this song about Kendrickacross the country. That's huge, just

(01:20:57):
the power of Drake. He coulddo that, but right now I guess
he can't. Can't is doing itright now, but not like us.
The whole world is. But thereason why he said because of I know,
I know he's saying it right now. Yeah, yet, but not
like us. This is what isOkay, let's go back double. It's
double. It takes, takes,takes, family matters and push ups put

(01:21:18):
them together, and not like us, has more views than both of them,
like it's it went viral, likeit went viral. This is why
I said that this is the beginningof the year for Drake. I don't
think so. I don't think so. But everybody's that he only he only

(01:21:39):
has his core fans. Now,Drake, yes, he only has liked
And the reason why he only hashis core fans is because he didn't tell
him that he used that v talkto give him the abs. But he
only has his core fans now,Dude, you got allegations. Okay,
that's pissing off fathers that had daughters. That was because I know people that

(01:22:04):
aren't Kendrick Lamar fans and I justhad this argument and they don't want to
listen to Drinke no more. Theylegit said they don't want to listen to
Drinke anymore because they don't they don'tlike the idea of him being a pedal,
that that that that touches people.Some people don't give what does a
lot of people, A lot ofpeople don't care. But it's sad because

(01:22:25):
I'm a music group. And theybring that up, right, they that,
and they compare him, They compareKendrick to beating his wife. But
when I bring up the fact thatpeople are still listening to Chris Brown after
Chris Brown practically made Rihanna look likegoing to bring that up because did you
see her face? Apparently head shehad a black and blue here here bust

(01:22:46):
the lips she was. All Isaw was a bustle lip on one side
of the black. Okay, butthis is this is the this is the
thing. And I'm not I'm notup. Did her dirty? Yeah?
But she hit him first, Definitelyhim first. That sucked up. I'm
not condoning domestic, definitely, butwe gotta be real and understand that domestic

(01:23:09):
and pedophile doing that different. Nolesser, there's a lesser. There's a
less there's programs, there's family,there's in there, there's therapies, there's
in the you know what I mean, interventions for domestic. There's jail time
for Peter Phili that's it, youunder saying. So it's worse. So
when Drake I hate. When Drakesays, get on Kendricks beating his wife,

(01:23:33):
and if he does, that happensall across America. If the world.
I'm not saying it's okay, butI rather be a wife beater than
the fucking you know, touching thepedophile pedal. We say it out.
It just sounds. You just saythe word is better than I'm not.

(01:23:55):
You understand what I'm not both,I'm not gonna Yeah, definitely, I
agree. I agree. So andthen on top of that, you got
the like I said, you gotthe fathers that are farthest daughters. He's
a predator. You got mothers thathas kids, he's a predator. There,
You're you're losing fan base there.I'm one example. You're father of
a year old girl. I can'tlisten to car Now like she turns it

(01:24:19):
on, turn it off. Itdisgusts me. I can't listen to R.
Kelly Eymore. Okay, see we'regonna get into this, come to
the We're gonna we're gonna get intothis. Definitely, babyby Yo. I
can't listen to R. Kelly andI used to love his music, but
it's like acting. It's a separatelife. You gotta let me go,

(01:24:42):
let me eat, let me eata little bit. It's like acting get
that. Are you mad at JoshBrowling for Plantanos? Like for Snappers Finger.
I know it's a hypothetical. It'sa freaking movie. It's fake,
but it's I'm about to hit youright now with something, but it's active.
It's different. It's from again musicand your real life. Michael Jackson,
no one knows for sure what hedid, but his music is great,

(01:25:06):
and his music doesn't pass when inhis music, it doesn't show anything
of that type of behavior. Soit's different from his personal life. Kelly,
some songs are you know, closeenough here? Like maybe he might
be talking about that, but Idon't know who's the other one. It's

(01:25:29):
Kelly, it's Michael Jackson. Who'sthe other one? Now it's Drake.
So Drake doesn't say that type ofstuff in his songs. I know people
are bringing up lines, but it'sjust a line. He's a Twitter,
he said in tweets, and hesaid in the music, Yes, he
has said the music. You justdon't listen to him. He said,
oh, I said, you waseven fine in high school. Picks.

(01:25:50):
He probably was in high school thatas well. He was He's talking about
how he saw her high school picks. He's talking about, Oh, I'm
talking about somebody at your high schoolpigs. So he's talking about the ladies
from Toronto. No who else?All right? Defend because Instagram and the

(01:26:13):
people he dates all the time.You finished with the Josh Brolin, I
got my rebutter. Okay, SoJosh Brolin real life. In real life,
Josh Brolin was at Thanos and that'sthe problem. In real life,
r Kelly was a pedophile. That'sthe difference nor music. You're a different
person. You're a different person differentbut you see what I'm saying. Your

(01:26:35):
real life persona, your real lifeimage was pissing on kids. But that's
a problem that Josh Brolan's real lifeimage wasn't Thanels who was trying to kill
That was a reference. I justyou know, I get what you was
trying to say, because it is. Some people can't correlate that. And
that's sad because I was a bigfan of Game of Thrones and the dude

(01:27:00):
who played Jeoffrey, the kid whoplayed Jeoffrey, he quit acting because he
was getting hate male. That's sad. He was getting hate mail for his
character, so it wasn't. I'mnot saying it was a bad reference.
I don't watch, but I can'tcorrelate. But you gotta. You should

(01:27:24):
be able to separate the two becauseif you can find those references Michael Jackson
music, then Boomson. I don'twant to listen to it the bar.
But his music wasn't about that,you know, little Boys and the other
crap that he went through, whichnone of it was ever one hundred percent
proven. No one knows. RKelly stuff is a different story. But
that stuff's not his music. Imean this one song was was it Alias

(01:27:46):
or his song? That's a Liassong agent, but number Kelly. So
I don't think he has nothing thatto me that speaks on his life what
you're saying, but it will wasteso you hear, I believe I could
fly and be like oh his Peter. It would weigh so much if it
was flipped the wrong. It wouldbe less of a problem if he was

(01:28:08):
a pedophile in his music, butin real life he wasn't because that happens
a lot. Dude, Yo,I don't know if you guys how much
that this is what I mean,let me explain what I'm saying. You
you ever, I don't know howmuch you guys know if you guys are

(01:28:30):
you listening to rock or you guysknow rock? You guys know these You
see how they look, you seetheir appearance, Yo, those dudes behind
the mask, there's some of thenicest guys. Ever, That's what I'm
trying to say. You understand.So people, it's easier too, it's
easier to be able to take theall. You know what he was just

(01:28:56):
acting, but he this is howhe really is. And that's where the
that's where the issue, that's wherethe issue is what you're saying. I
understand what you saying. So that'sthe problem. That's why I don't funk
with R Kelly no more, becauseeven though he made good music and he's
talking about love and he's talking aboutMary and being happy forever, Yo,
his real hymn was being a pedophile. I just can't to separate the two.

(01:29:20):
You have to I just can't supportthat. That's that person. And
that's what That's what I'm saying here, because I'm not saying that everybody that
listens to Drake is going to bedisgusted by that. There's still defending that,
defending the fact that he didn't doanything. That is going to be

(01:29:41):
a portion that it's going to bedisgusted by it. He's going to be
victims of pedophilia that not fucking withhim. There's going to be parents that
you understand that person. And thenYo, it's like, Yo, somebody
could call me a pedo and I'lljust laugh at them because it's like,
where's the proof. Yeah, butdude, you all this ship is just

(01:30:05):
researva and coming back and like fromyears ago, tweets of him saying,
oh, tweets of him saying,oh, that predator is that predator in
that movie is whack they should havecast to me, I'll show up a
real predator. That's this is justsome ship. You just don't say,
like, that's just track. Itwas deleted eight hours later. Bro,

(01:30:27):
he slept on It was like,yeah, understand all that ships coming back.
Yeah, you know, so it'sa problem from him that that's that's
exactly that. This is why peopledon't understand, like this is why he
lost the beef, because I agreehe lost to be He lost the beef
not only on a on a ona on a skill level because we haven't

(01:30:48):
even talked about all the doubles andtriples and quadrop fucking multise Octagonians that Kendrick
has in his songs. People thinkthat Kendrick laws because apparently Kendrick lied.
Yeah, now there's news of theperson that gave the info to Drake.

(01:31:15):
Gave the info to Drake, sogot paid for it. But he also
lied and gave the info to Drakethat was incorrect. So it's just like,
okay, now you make yourself lookeven dumber. Cooley Bravo is an
artist from from Atlanta. He said, yeah, Drake Camp came up to
me off, came up to mycamp and offered one hundred k for info

(01:31:40):
on Kendrick. Number one rule ofb Field. The winner goes to who
has the most dirt on the personright off the back. Drake isn't winning
because you don't have enough dirt onKendrick. This was evident by the fact
that you took songs and instead ofsingling out instead of the ring all your
your your your your ship, andKendrick you was talking to you was talking

(01:32:04):
about Rick Ross, he was talkingabout the weekend. That's evident you're filling
in because you don't have enough.It's filler because you don't have enough shots
for that one person. Okay,So anyways, he did that with Pushing.
He offered one hundred k for youknow, dirt on Pushing because you

(01:32:25):
don't have nothing. This is whyyou don't. This is why you didn't
go after Joe Budden. Yeah,because you don't have beat. You don't
have dirt on Joe Budden exactly.Commy is a nice dude. What what
say it? Whatever you're gonna say, say it, Kendrick, Yo,
J Drake is the biggest bully inthe fucking industry. Then that's why it's

(01:32:45):
twenty v one. Bro. He'sdone so many people dirty and everyone's like,
oh, why is everybody coming outnow this and that. You gotta
understand, yo, this is thisis that happens. This is the biggest
dude in the industry. He lostthat battle. I think you're in the
industry. If I'm future and I'mdown here and I speak up on this

(01:33:11):
dude, what they're gonna say,I'm reaching hate, it's nothing. Mm
hmm. So he has no choicebut to keep his mouth shut. You
understand, if I'm Rick Ross.Drake is up here, Rick rosses down
here. If he says, ifhe speaks on Drake, what he's gonna
say, what, they're gonna say, he's reaching. He don't have his
money for sure, for sure,that dude. They needed Kendrick to speak

(01:33:38):
up. They needed somebody at hislevel, as big as he is to
speak up. And that's why theycame out and they decided, like word,
Kendrick finally spoke up. Now we'regonna hit him because people are gonna
listen to the goats. M hm, you gave me people is gonna listen
to the goats. So if thegoat is saying what every all these small

(01:34:00):
niggas are saying, it has tobe true. You know what I'm saying.
So that's that's why nobody listening toGame. That's what happened. You
know you said what let's say nobodyis listening to him. Not he's irrelevant?
Why because he hasn't have music ona while. Game. H Really,

(01:34:24):
if he says something, I'm gonnalisten to what he's gotta say.
I've been hearing a lot of shipof like Game is one of the one
of the legends and he's I haven'treally heard late. Yeah, he has
create his distracts of all time threehundred bars and running. I agree,
but I haven't heard him. Activemusic relevant doesn't make your relevant. You

(01:34:45):
just you're just out of the game. Been irrelevant, Yeah, he hasn't
been. He's been. If hesaid drops uping right now, but ourselves
everybody I am if he drops somethingtomorrow, is sudden anything coming out of
the p couple of years. No, it's not guarantee you his last album
flopped, that's last two albums flopped. Yes, you're looking up crazy.

(01:35:08):
I'm not even fan. It definitelydidn't flop. Look it up. What
was the last one flopped? Asfar as what music sales? So,
dude, you know if they don'tmake albums and more, but it's still
it's the streams, it's the sting. So sales are streams now. Yeah,
it's substituted. It's different now.Yeah, look it up. You're
talking about sales, bro sales domadder in this this decade and amazing?

(01:35:31):
Yes, but he just said heout sells everybody. He would, he
would drop right now. He'd bethe big type of conversation. Yeah,
and Eminem still holds the record forthe most sales, but we're talking about
when albums was actually made. Yeah, his old album still holds, Yes,
but he's talking about right now.He said he dropped right now.
Probably not exactly. That's what I'mtalking about, because a lot of new

(01:35:53):
heads are not listening. That's whatI'm talking about. So his last one
was called To released in twenty twentytwo. The album sold by itself,
just the album, eight hundred andtwenty seven k total, so video all
demanded streams was one hundred and fiftyone million, three hundred thirty two thousand.
That's not. That's that's for thealbum, for that album. That's

(01:36:15):
not that's not. That's not enough. What I mean, that's fifty one
million. If he drops tomorrow,he's gonna get that in a couple of
days. Not in a couple ofdays, No, he won't. That's
insane. I don't even like emdevI don't. I'm not a fan.
Kenjick Lamar has Kenjick Lamar has almostthat for one song, because that's what's
hot right now anymore. He's it'snot gonna happen. There's too many Eminem's

(01:36:42):
out there who there's a bunch likeelaborate the fuck is his name? And
nothing? There is ship I thoughtyou didn't catch that. Let's see,
what's his name? Nef? Notnot? What is his name? Who?

(01:37:10):
Nef? This is not ne F. I don't know if it's enough
Eddie p h right, no,oh Eddie f No, I don't know
if it's him. There's another there'sthere's that year. They're all you know,
it's crazy. They're all white?Yeah? Who all white? I
have to know who this is?Oh my god. The last damn for

(01:37:34):
Kendrick was one million, two thousandsales. Yes, just for the album.
That's that's okay, that's already morefor the album. That's already more
than a lot, more than seventyseven thousand for sales for sales, No,
yes, looking at it right now? Where'd you get that? Infro?

(01:37:55):
What? Google? Are you aWikipedia? Google? Google? Wikipedia?
They were comparing it. If he'sgonna make some money off of it,
have a lot of hits. Butyeah, but you said he's gonna
sell more than everybody. That's whatyou said he will. Yeah. No,
he's not, Yes, he's not. He's not something. His albums

(01:38:15):
dropping soon. I don't know whatyou mean by my album sales. He's
not. They're still making physical copies. They still where you're gonna buy them.
People that you like the album,you can buy it. That's probably
most likely to the website. That'sthat's about it. It's all about about

(01:38:39):
YouTube streams about I used to putartists. I used to put artists in
a fucking like a jar. Iused to randomly pick one out. Okay,
I'm bout to buy the album Idon't have from that artist. That's
how I used to be said.They all came out Kendrick right that I

(01:39:00):
was. You know, it waseverybody, Chris, everybody. So I
was like, all right, sono, when I was little. I
used to do that when I wasyoung, like because you know, I
had to backtrack, Dude, Ilistened to Big Daddy came. I listened
to Confusion, you know what Imean, Like people don't know who that
is. That's crazy. That's That'swhat I'm saying. And I'm I'm I'm
not young, but I'm not old. I wouldn't think I listened to that.

(01:39:23):
That's the way I did my research. You you act like people who
are young don't listen to most ofthem, most of them. Most of
the kids don't do that. Theydon't do that. My kids, my
kids, they don't. I belike, that's all depending on who you
were raised with. So what I'msaying it is then, but still like
your kids are all gonna know whoeverybody in that list is. Yes,

(01:39:45):
on whose list? They know alot of them, a lot of them.
They don't listen to the music though, but they're gonna know who they
are. That's just the music,not just that he plays the music,
gonna pay them music. They're gonnaknow that song, and then they they
may not like the music, likefor example, I didn't like sauce on
music when I was a kid.I didn't when I was younger. I

(01:40:09):
didn't. You you grew up andyou like. Now you grew up and
you like it now say through afreestyle obviously playing all the time. I
hate it and you don't like thesame thing, And how I grow up,
I was like, I love freestyle. It all depends on it all
depends on what you're listening to exactlywhen you're raised. Now what you like
what you raised you're raised? Yes, So I wasn't raised on like it

(01:40:30):
was Spanish. I heard some,but I did my old thing. I
liked who I liked that, didmy research on who I wanted to do
my research on exactly. That's that'sall personal personal pressure. But that's also
that's also you by yourself. Butsaying that they're not gonna know the old
heads, but that's based on whothey actually decided to listen to. Kids.

(01:40:50):
Kids nowadays they don't know like middleschool, dude, I was in
middle school looking up people from dead. Yeah, kids don't do that no
more. This is why, thisis why it's been a big the past
couple of years. There was abig beef between the old heads and heads

(01:41:11):
because the new heads was not payinghomage to the roots. And and it's
true because I'll be talking to mystep son. He's thirteen years you don't
know, I don't know him.Who do you know a young boy?
Trash? You don't do your Youdon't expect you to know them. I

(01:41:33):
expect you to literally like go andlook for them a question. Often are
you playing that stuff around him allthe time? Then when he grows up,
he may not do it right now, when he grows up, it's
gonna change. No, he tellsme all the time, I play good
music. When he grows up,when he see that's the thing. When
he grows up, he'll learn.So the he's wrapping all the Kendrick this

(01:41:55):
is with me, proud of himin the cartoon with me bro listen another
of this ship. My dad wasa rocker. Now my mom didn't be
listening to rock music at all.I did it by myself. I still
took it amongst myself to backtrack andstart finding out the roots of this ship.
You know, but I'm not.I'm not from the era of freestyle

(01:42:16):
Saturdays. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not from the era of the
Beg's, but I still know andlisten to the Beg's feel me. That's
what I'm talking about. I'm notfrom the era of the Beg's, but
I know who the Beg's are andlisten to their music. That's because me
personally. Okay, so I'm thirtythree, you're in my age range.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.We're like the last No, but that's

(01:42:40):
what But that's that's that's my point. Like I play that kids. I
play that stuff around my kids,so when they get older, they may
not like it right now because it'snot what's probon. When they get older,
they'll start looking ato that music likethat. I appreciate it because the
music's the nostalgia for them. Yeah. Like, for example, rock music,
I didn't like it when I wasa kid. That wasn't I'm in

(01:43:00):
the East side of New Britain.There's there's people getting robbed in swat teams
running in houses around the corner onDwight Street. That's yeah, I'm not
listening to rock music at the time. I'm listening to hip fifty like that's
what I'm listening to. I appreciatedrock as I got older. Yes,

(01:43:25):
a lot of rock, but forme, like like I like, I
love I love it like that.Did you listen as a kid? I
was my father exactly my points.But I never hated it. When I
was a kid, I didn't hateit. I appreciated it, didn't listen
to it. Now now when asI am older, I was like,
I love it. Yeah, becauseyou understand you you understand more things.

(01:43:48):
What is it that's the main one? Is so awesome? Man. See
that's what my father used to play. I never hated I didn't say all
this is trash. I just listenedto it, I was saying. But
in the same time, it's likeme, I don't know. I could
only really kind of like use myselfas an example. I took the initiative

(01:44:14):
to say. And another thing too, is I used to listen to an
album see a feature. I'm like, Yo, this dude's this dude's verse
was fire. Let me search thefeature. That's that's funny. You say
that because I was talking about thisthe other day, my boy James who
left earlier. Bro, before youstart, before you startle me fish science.

(01:44:35):
You know anybody else that listened tothe Ruggaman already? The Ruggaman?
I know, I do. There'ssome songs I listened to. James does.
There's a couple of albums he saidhe does like, but people do.
I listened to Ari. It's good. This is why the comment on
your page, on your comment theother day already needed already needs to make

(01:44:57):
music and stop being a fucking Rememberhe don't come up with it, doesn't
He barely comes out, you understandhim. The diabolics is another one,
all right, the rugging Man.I searched him when I was listening to
more technique he was. He's alwaysa feature. Yeah, technique ship in
fact, So that's how I foundhim. And I was like, nobody
does the research. That's what itis. That's what I'm saying, don't

(01:45:21):
do the research. That was tough. The story the other day, James,
how I found out a China Excelwasn't because I've heard him somewhere.
I used to be on All hiphop dot Com was humongous back in the
day. Oh, I used tolove it. I used to always look
for new songs or whatever. Right, so I find a new song that
like, b I'll listen to it. That's not reading the comments. That

(01:45:42):
picture was awesome to Yeah, soI read the comments of certain songs,
people like what's your tip? What'syour top five list? Before he became
a singer, so I would alwayssee what's your tip five, what's your
time five? People would go on. Some will be the normal jay Z,
Tupac, Nash, whatever, butthere's always a bunch of comments that
would be like I love Common,I love most step, I love cheat

(01:46:05):
to Excel, I love cannabis,and like nas like who the hell cheats?
And it would be a ton ofpeople like you top five fer Match
in my top five, Big Alin my top five. I don't know.
So that's how I freaking out.I was like, the hell to
excel, right, I don't likehis delivery. He doesn't appeal to me.

(01:46:27):
Ye dead monster, Yeah you gottahave you have, I probably will,
but listen. Delivery is important whenit comes to grabbing you so exactly.
So if somebody don't have a deliverythat you don't like, it's more
of being forced to listen to.Like, yeah, I'll force myself to

(01:46:48):
listen to him, but you'll findsome stuff that you would like, because
I'm sure you know. That's howI dug I dug into it. I
was like, who the hell isthis? Let me do some music,
do some research, do some search. A bunch of songs I like something
I don't like, And that's whatevery artist. There's some now songs I
don't like, but it happens,It's gonna happen. So that's how I
did it. I just did theresearch. I found out Krino is another

(01:47:10):
one. Yeah, probably never heardof Carino. Carino is a freaking amazing
He's He's gotten props from Big Boy, He's gotten props from scarface. He's
gotten props from any big down Southrappers. That dude. So who the
hell is Carrinas? Did research?Dude's an amazing artist. He's got like
fifty albums out, so much stuffout that it's hard to keep up.
But you see that stuff and youjust do the research. But let me

(01:47:33):
search this guy out is another onehas the talent to compare, to compete
with. He could and he wasnever out. He was never put up
there. You know some people,some people don't even want that, you
know people, some people don't wantthat that limelight, that that spotlight of
being the top rapper of the game. But he could because he's lyrically gifted

(01:47:58):
a lot of this, a lotof who you know what label you label
is a big thing anymore, Idon't know. That's how they pushed their
music labels pay for radio play,labels pay radio play labels by the Also

(01:48:19):
they also make the artist put itwear dresses to right that too bad?
Bunny? Who the young little ya? One of those guys wore dress?
I forgot why the videos with ana K. Forget which one that was?
Who that was? Lo? Hehad he had a pick dress on
with an oozy like or a kin his hand. I was like,

(01:48:40):
what the hell is that young doglike that? Yeah, that's trash dude,
So that's what you gotta do theSouth Records, that's trash man.
You're taking away from yourself as aas a man overall. Yes, you
like him, Yeah, for newage music, for stuff you can just

(01:49:00):
bump. It's not for you.It's crazy. I can't bump none of
that new music. It's not it'snot for music. It's not to it's
not to say right like not thelike Oh yeah, No, he's nice,
like lyrical and stuff like that.No, he's just catchy and I
can put him in I can puthim in there. And if I'm at
a club playing for the beat,if I'm at a club exactly, if
I'm at a club, I'm notlistening to people who are lyrical, they're

(01:49:23):
not playing. That's that's definitely herefor sure. I don't think you heard.
I don't know. We'll find out, like tomorrow, yeah, but
yeah, yeah, like future forexample, Yeah, future with a new
era of type of music. Yeah, he's a legend, but he's not

(01:49:44):
lyrically, No, he's not.He's the last I don't know about that,
not the last one, not thelast one. Who's who else?
Last street dude? Main stre stream? See Conway, Conway the Machine,
Benny, Benny, They're not mainstream. Benny's not stream, Benny the Butcher

(01:50:09):
and Conway he is there stream it'sthe r Why are they? You hear
the single on Yes Benny Benny andJ Cole that that blasted everywhere? Cole?
So how do you how do youbecome How do you become? So?
How do you become mainstream? Mainstream? Is but tymor swift like?

(01:50:34):
That's Benny the Butcher with J Cole? Like Cole, I wouldn't even really
consider J Cole that mainstream. Yes, yes, yes, he's he's borderline,
he's borderline. I don't think he'sfully mainstream. How is he not
Drake's mainstream? If you compare LittleWayne's mainstream has more music, has mainstream

(01:50:56):
Eminem has way more music. It'snot about the amount of music. So
what's Will Smith has a little bitof music. He's being streamed. So
okay, do you know eighty percentof will Will Smith's music? I kind
of do, which is sad,yeah, crazy because you ain't here.
Eighty percent of it on the radio. You heard a lot of it though
you heard a lot of j Coleon the radio. All of yourself is

(01:51:19):
not. But Benny and Conway areBenny Benny. Those two are Benny and
Conway are Bust the rhymes, Brustthe ryme is mainstream. Future is not
the only hood dude doing music tochange. He's the last one. Maze
titty boy, Yeah, titty boys, teddy boys. Not even right now?

(01:51:42):
Is what was that? I haven'theard him in a while, and
I think there's last thing. Itwas in twenty twenty three last year,
if I'm correct, was the albumYeah, alright, So listen what we
say when I say mainstream, it'severdem a little way Drake that level Jason.
But you're just putting that level hopartist. That's that doesn't make you
mainstream. What makes you mainstream isthat you're being played regularly radio. So

(01:52:05):
you can go to oklahomaist like,Yo, you heard Benny's Butcher to be
honest. Okay, okay, ifyou got that same radio station, Okay,
pop smoke, pop smokes, popsmoke. Mainstream. He's good at
there. He was good in NewYork's popular in in the in the Northeast.
He was extremely mainstream here. Yes, yeah, but that's jadakus what

(01:52:30):
Jadak is not mainstream. He iswhat he was just because a lot of
people know who it is. Doesn'this music was mainstream, The Locks wasn't
There's a difference. Jadakis was theLocks, wasn't it. Jason was like
you make me want with Mariah Carey. That's mainstream Jada, that's it.
Right. So there's a lot ofsongs like mainstream. I don't think you

(01:52:54):
understand mainstream is okay, But you'resaying big art NB NB a young boy
mainstream. Yes, yeah, heis his biggest Drake. But that's my
point. You guys are pulling outbig name artists to get you're wrong.
This is the you're wrong. Thisis what it doesn't make sense. This

(01:53:15):
is what I'm saying. Benny theButcher Conway. They're being played on the
East Side. Yeah, but that'sbecause that's where they say the most mainstream
is everywhere in the country whole,that's mainstream. You hear. Drake was
being played in l A, NewYork, Florida, Toronto, Mexico,

(01:53:39):
Asia, Idaho. Alcohola like yougo to Oklahoma, who drink is you
go. If you go to Atlanta, right and you spend a week there,
you're gonna hear a bunch of musicthat you ain't here of pan Connecticut.
Yeah, I live in Florida.That's not mainstream. But to them,
their mainstream down there. Hate tothem, but difference between pop popularity

(01:54:03):
in the area and mainstream. Okay, so okay, here's okay, NB
young boy? Has he got Grammyvotes? Who has he got Grammy nominations?
Any? Young Boy? No,that's mainstream, he said, No,
that mainstream. That means he's mainstream. That would be I feel like
it would any what. So thepoint I was trying to make with NB

(01:54:27):
A young Boy is about the labels. When he was popping and he was
hot and he was breaking all theserecords, he was with Atlantic. Atlantic
Records, that is one of themajor labels, one of the las,
one of the classics. He startedbeefing with Atlantic, he stopped making music

(01:54:53):
with them, he left the label. All right, now he's independent.
You know, his music after hebecame independent, wasn't making making numbers that
he was making when he was atYes it is yes, it is yeah,
it is independent. Yeah, evenwhen he was even when he had

(01:55:20):
a bracelet. Atlantic Record was blacklistinghim. Bro it was he was blacklist
But he was already he was alreadytoo big. I believe that he was
already too big. The college kidslove and be a young boy, he's
already to he was. He wasmaking music in his house with an ankle
bracelet, couldn't leave his front yard, and it was still pulling out some

(01:55:42):
of the most some of the mostcharts in the in the country. That
considering his but that you're saying,you're saying that, but again, that
just proves my point that he's stillmainstream and he was still as popping as
he was. Also, he hadhis B foot love Dirt, his b
foot Little Dirk, and it mademade him elevate his music. They had
Yes, Yeah, who are theylittle Dirk. I'm just I'm just trying

(01:56:08):
to say, yeah he is.Okay. They don't know him in the
West Coast though, I bet youthey do. I bet you they do.
No, No, they don't.He's not played in the West Coast.
How do you know that? Wedon't know that for sure? He's
You want to know how you knowthat? Because there because you can look
up where an artist is played themost. You know that, right the

(01:56:30):
West Coast, Little Dirk has playedthe least. This is This is gonna
be another segment of ours, mainstream, and we're gonna get to a couple
of other seconds. We gotta finish. We gotta finish the Kendrick and Drake
got to finish. We're coming backto it. I'm I'm at, I
gotta work at living. We gottafinish, so Kenrick one landslide, landslide.

(01:56:55):
Yeah, I agree, I do, I do agree. I'm not
a Drake fan, not a cronfan. One. You could know he
was trying to he was trying toget somebody today. It would just make
this so much better. Drake isgonna make more money if you take if
you take your money into account ofit. People always do when you bring

(01:57:17):
up eminem he got more money,He's gonna make more more sales if you
think of that aspect, which alot of people do. Yeah, rings
for for sports sales, sales,which is why I bring up Grammys,
because sales they could do that.I can bring up greams, bring up
Grammys, But who got more money. It doesn't matter about the Grammys.
It's a damn statue versus all themillions that I got. Okay, you

(01:57:39):
have all your money, your moneycan your money can be gone, but
your Grammys is gonna be in therecord forever. Grammy is what an award.
Hey you good job, this oneyear job? People are. People
are remembered for Grammys, not rememberedfor money. Here you are who's remembered
for money? That was rich.Jeff Bezeos dies right now. He's remembered
for his money and everything he did. No, he's gonna remember for Amazon.

(01:58:00):
I'm not giving money. It wasmoney made off that. Yeah,
but he's gonna remember for Amazon theamount of money he dies. I don't
still gray either. You do that. You do die with your accolades and
money that still attached your name,Just like money, it's still different.
You die with nothing in your play. I don't. I don't. I

(01:58:20):
just don't compare. I don't includeaccolades. But I know norble people like
us don't. Yeah, but themain stream the greatest rapper of all time
right now, he might be ajanitor in fucking Iowa. Who knows.
You don't know that the best basketballplayer ever is not never played basketball in

(01:58:40):
NBA We don't know that yet,I don't. That don't make you know
that. It doesn't make no sensebecause we only talk about the best basketball
players being in the NBA. There'sa lot of basketball players that are not
in n A that are really good. Yeah, but they're not talked about.
Yeah, that doesn't. That doesn'tThey're nobody's they don't exist. That's

(01:59:01):
fine, but they do exist.They don't exist in the mainstream. You
know their name, you know,just born. They don't exist. This
kind of does correlate with Drake andKendrick because Cole played basketball. Shut up,
like, hey, he put heputs, he put that team on
the map. So why so whyis we got two things I want to

(01:59:28):
do? Why is on Drake forbeing white and black? But why because
I'm not even finished? Let finish, Lett finish. And then we got
two more things and there were hedoesn't hate on he doesn't hate on Jake
Cole for being white and black.And this is for the confused Drakes because
Drake wasn't out here, I mean, Cole wasn't out here using hard e

(01:59:49):
R to describe somebody. And alsohe wasn't painting against face black and also
he wasn't. He's not charge thisis. I don't because it was also
not. He's also not wearing orhaving a bar mitzvah. It was never

(02:00:10):
about a race thing. No,it's never is. It just comes to
the culture thing. It comes up. This is why Kendricks kendricks favorite rapper
of all time. He said ithis eminem guy. Yes, it is
Kendricks, it is. Maybe he'sone of them, I know he said

(02:00:30):
he prais his tupacket, he praisesSnoop. Yes, I honestly think if
you dig deep in his interviews,he also prais his cadabis a lot more
than those guys. But you alsodidn't listen to his this is you also
don't listen to his music. Okay, thought you said because I thought you
said, he said Kendrick also,but you also didn't listen to this.

(02:00:55):
I don't know. I thought yousaid j Cole before you started. By
the time, we don't, Yeah, we about to make Edison and Mike
Bee j Cole. J Cole isdefinitely not jay Z. He always said
it. No, if you listento his interviews, he does say cannabis
a lot, has a lot ofinfluence on his style. He does,
but it's not his favorite. Kendricksspoke of Eminem Tupac. Those are the

(02:01:21):
main ones he has. Other peopleterrible mix if you ask me. But
why because all those styles are justall different, they're all so your top
five has consistency at all, thenwhy can't difference. I'm just talking to
podcasts because of the West Coast andof course because of course that's this is

(02:01:42):
why. So he mixed up thetwo don't love for ice Cube, he
don't love. But but that doesn'tmean it's his favorite. I know.
Just so you guys don't give menetroll and I talked ship. I know,
I'm gonna put it out. Sowhy he praises Eminem even though he's
white, Because Eminem was cultured.Eminem grew up in the hood and grew

(02:02:05):
up broke. Eminem grew up inthe povertish state. It's not it was
never understands the hood. Understand understandsthe hood. He's not. He's not
a gang banging He's not. Drakewas not one of that Edison. You
understand the hood. Yes, youget me to a certain extent. If

(02:02:25):
you go to Hartford and you knowall yo let me this is just not
looking right. You're gonna grew upthere exactly. That doesn't mean you gave
what I'm saying. Drake wasn't doingthat. This is why it was making
TV shows exactly. So this iswhere Drake talking about in a wheelchair.

(02:02:47):
I'm just talking about what grabbing cheekswas being said on the media because you
know the Drake stands like to fendthat, like you're making the racist thing.
It was never about racism. Itwas about culture. It's not about
colored you know what I mean.So that's one that's one of the that's

(02:03:09):
one of the issues that and hebasically just got him for it. Too
good. You want you want todo like, uh, you got?
I got two things to go overreal quick, go ahead, we need
to touch on. So we mentionedthat I want to do this with James

(02:03:30):
here, but he had to goJacob. He apologized after his disc Right.
What I want to bring up isvery it's very It made me like
disliked the guy for sure. SoI want you guys disappointed. I want
you guys to do is think ofthis next question and how would it affect

(02:03:53):
history. So let's say previous hiphop beasts, Right, this came out
and another came out and that personsays, sorry, how would that change
different beefs in the history of hiphop? So let's say real quick,
let's say just for one, who'sthe big one. Let's go for for

(02:04:15):
for general statements. Going now tojay Z, jay Z dropped he had
that he had a one liner.He said, asked, nos he messing
with whole? No? That wasit? That na it h to the
omo and the jay Z did theverse to takeover? What if he apologized
after that verse? Takeover? Whathappens? What if it happens? Oh

(02:04:41):
a lot, especially especially since wasin the streets, like immediately, yeah,
let's say bad this. See thething is with Ja Cole, he
never admitted to being in the streets. He admitted, dude, with just
a beef, it does in hiphop? It definitely does, AJ because

(02:05:04):
we actually thinking the party. Definitely, Yes, it does? It does
it does? We know Kendrick frombeing from Compton. You know what you
know people that ride behind Kendrick.This is this is the crazy part,
bro. You know you know more, you know there was more. There
was people that was more surprised thathe responded than when he apologized because because

(02:05:29):
that's not the person that but ifyou're going to respond, stick with it
that that's that's all. I getthat too. I get that too.
Problem, I get that too.But it goes a line with what he
preaches in his music. It does. That's why the hypothetical question, but

(02:05:51):
what would happened? What would whatwould change? But my problem with situation,
my problem with is is the factthat he's been talking like he's better
than the top two and he goesdrops it. Yeah, but you go
and drop a disc track when yourname wasn't really mentioned or your tracks wasn't

(02:06:15):
really mentioned, and like that,he he did mention the whole steak walking
three K that was towards Drake,I mean towards Kendrick Jesus correct. I
don't see the bar. But maybethat's because I don't have the knowledge to
find the relevancy because I forgot Ithink it was I didn't see the bar.
I didn't see the relevance for that. But that song is mostly towards

(02:06:39):
mostly towards Drake. Excuse me,now, when you throw a dish track
out there, you could have waitedto drop it or not drop it.
At all or not drop it atall. You have the power in your
hand, but you put it onan album to help promote your album.
It's not even album. I don'teven know if they considered an album EP.

(02:07:00):
I thought it was an EP.But people were saying, twelve twelve
song, twelve songs, that's album. Say that, So those twelve songs,
I didn't appreciate that. I'm like, all right, cool, we're
gonna get We're gonna get J Colein this. And I honestly so hard
to believe that if J Cole wasinvolved in this, Drake would have got

(02:07:23):
thrown to like number three spot byKendrick, and Kendrick would have manipulated it
and to the point where Drake isthrowing shots at J Cole, because Drake
is sensitive sensitive made sure so hewould have he would have been thrown shots
at both of them, and thenit would have been a one v one
v one it would have been Iwould love it, would have loved for
all. So I think that's howit would have happened. But I also

(02:07:48):
think that J Cole is hiding thingsthat Kendrick knew about because Kendrick and J
Cole were closer. Yeah, yeah, they were possible. That's okay,
so so possible video. So Shipcame out. So the reason why I
said this was the smartest thing hedid was because Ship came out. If

(02:08:09):
you don't research his videos that cameout whatever. So they're saying this is
all alleged whatever, there's no fuckingfact checking. Well they said that,
Uh, schoolboy Q actually reached outto Kendrick, I mean reached out to
Jake. They said, listen,bro, basically like we got love for

(02:08:33):
you. It's not about you.We got k Dot, got some ship
that's really about a fuck up Drakeand we we suggest you and that's because
they're been throwing shots at each otherfor ten years. We suggest that you.
You you moved to the side.Remember what I said, Dude,
this guy has too He's not anupcoming artist no more. He got the

(02:08:56):
legacy to hold on to that petship is serious. You get what I'm
saying. This is why I saidthis was the smartest move that does and
jay Z there wasn't no pedal allegationsgoing on, even street allegations can when
that came out. I get thehypothetical, but Drake is the fake the

(02:09:20):
fake thug. Kendrick is the manthat grew up around it and dealt with
it in his life. You gotlived, you got you got that.
You got bloods and crips that standbehind Kendrick calling Kendrick a real nigga because
he still put people from the hoodon. He's still he still paid how
muche to the hood. He's stillin the hood, and he's still paying
for funerals and all that stuff.And Drake is just around people that been

(02:09:43):
the hoods he takes. That's theculture vulture in him. That's the colonization
that Kendrick was talking about. Soback to the original question after that ten
minute segue, what would change ifsomething like that happened between J It would
have probably probably would destroyed one oftheir careers. To who which ones?

(02:10:03):
To who say, Let's say Jayuh any J apologize, he wouldn't be
as big as he is. Ithink he still would. I'm a Dodge
fan. I think it would hurtnow as little if he wasn't able to
come out with ether and to putthem back on the back. That's when
he drives. So you said,but who's apologizing. Let's say J apologize

(02:10:24):
Yeah, No, is dis creditbecause the gangster exactly. Yeah, he
guess he grew up like that.But that's not his message. That's Jay's
message. You know, J wasthe hustler. J wasn't a yeah,
it was hustler. If you're ahustler in the streets, you you you
you're doing it. You're doing hustler, not a gangster. You can different.

(02:10:50):
You could hustle and not be againsteither, not with drugs. I
don't see the correlation with drugs.If you you can't, you can't be.
You can have that attitude, lifestyle, you won't not necessarily a gangster.
You're not talking about selling drugs inthe streets of New York City.
And and I get that, Iknow, I know, and you're not
and you're not, You're not.It's a hypothetical. Let's say he does

(02:11:13):
that. I think the opposite.I think is not as big as he
is because Ether was like sort ofa comeback. Wait, so you're saying
that if J apologizes, Nas doesn'tget the fame that he does that he
is now No, because he waspopular, he was out for his last
I get that if Jay apologized,NOAs wouldn't be as big as he is

(02:11:35):
now because at that point had droppedDomas and everybody. A lot of people
hated it. They had some gemson there, a lot of people hated
it overall. And he doesn't getto drop Ether, which propelled him back
on top of the charts. Butlike so he doesn't drop you know God,
so he probably doesn't Stimatic doesn't hitas hard as it does that because

(02:11:58):
he no, I you know whatI'm saying. I agree, So how
does that change history if somebody elsedid it? The reason the reason I
agree is because of now type ofmusic. Yeah. Now, this type
of music was about putting messages outexactly exactly. It still isn't. It's
still regarded as it's still regarded asa boom to teach people boom knowledge.

(02:12:24):
Yeah, but Jay Is exactly didthat years later four for four. But
when I talk about that right now, Yeah, but that's about he say't
thing that was talking about back upagainst was doing it against the way albums.
Don't know which which sucks because it'sgood album it's good. I do

(02:12:45):
because not when I when when Iwas younger and in a round people that
were in like in the streets heavilylike doing my things in the streets.
But now as an adult, Iappreciate four for four as probably his best
album for me personally. In mypoint of view. Yea, now I

(02:13:07):
would consider it just because of allthe investment stuff and stuff like that and
everything else. As a businessman,the smartest gangsters are investors. Fifty the
smartest gangsters are investors. It ain'tthe niggas that's selling drugs in the streets
anymore. It's it's the niggas thatsold drugs, put the money back into
the hood both the property, flippedit, and they continue to do that

(02:13:30):
so forth and so forth and soforth with everything else. Suppose that is
that is? That is definitely,But that's that's that, you know.
Come on, Chamelionaire, I wasjustifying my boy made one album, left

(02:13:54):
the game and invested all his shipand now he's making He made mad money,
yo. Man. At first Iwas just talking. I was just
talking ship. You know. Alot of the main topic is Drake and
Kendrick. A lot of stands waslike, oh, so can't Drake don't
got the right to grow and evolvedbecause he changed. No, that's not

(02:14:18):
changed. How you go from humbleto gainst it. You don't do that.
Every every other artist that really wasin the in the in the in
the the hood, really living thatlifestyle years later, if they still in
the music, you see that thatthat mature shift in the music. How

(02:14:41):
did Drake go from humble lifestyle andmaking me? Making at started from the
bottom? Yard you started from Youstarted from middle class bro like the bottom.
I had a problem with the secondthat I couldn't every time that saw
one played, I couldn't get WheelchairJimmy on my head. The Grass,

(02:15:07):
I couldn't get it out my watchit. I just saw the clips of
that already. I watched the grass. Ain't no way you started from the
bottom. He was in there forseasons. It wasn't just one. It
was in there for seasons sometimes okaysometimes as a kid. So you for
real references. We're gonna get We'regonna get it into one more thing before

(02:15:28):
we go. So I was talkingbefore the podcast started that I love Drink
Champs. That's one of my favoritepodcasts. Champs shout out Drink Champs,
nor Big Gums, Norri. Igot the same thing, and I smiled
my gums, you know, bigtwo, So shout out norry, Oh
my god, that's real. Quicka quick little two minute segment of that,

(02:15:50):
because those hilarious. He's trash andhe's hilarious, like he's a goofball
real. I can't stand him.I can't tell if he's serious what he's
doing it for the likes of theclicks. I want to kick him in
the head. Yeah I don't,because how you Eminem the first bottom of
the first ten minutes of the podtaking ahead Eminem's trash, that cross,

(02:16:11):
you get drunk, you start crying. I don't want to be feel more
mad. I don't got no problemwith Eminem, Like what I'm not Who
gets it worse? Is that yougo to Eminem's mom spaghetti spot. Oh
he does, I didn't see thatpart to film a video. He filmed
the video he is. He admittedto have a ghost Riders too, and

(02:16:33):
and he took his spaghetti and whatwas he threw it on the floor Like
that ain't no way for real.I got to that out. I know
I didn't see the video, butI saw it like, yeah, I
saw a video. Yeah they're talkingabout it, but I didn't see that.
Like the physical video but yeah,he took a video his daughter though
making making this to this song ofthat, he admitted to having ghost writers.

(02:16:58):
Everybody hashost why look hot Cordy Ray? Yeah, I know who that
is. That's I didn't know that. People watching, people watching. Huh

(02:17:20):
No, she's a grown woman,so you get she's fire, so thin
fire. Speaking of drink champs,Uh, they got a stink called quick
time slim, right, m hm, you can't pick your favorite? Got
to the shot. So here inthe Hearty podcast, I like to do
something different and I's just like notjack but just sort of mimic. So

(02:17:41):
I call mine a blitz because wetalk about sports, talk about hip hop,
we talk about different things in life, so we call it all at
blitz. The same type of thesame type of what are you? What's
the word I'm looking for, thesame type of flow, the same type
of flow of quick time Slam.So you picked two artists, pick who

(02:18:01):
your favorite is or who's better thanthe other one? Okay, so the
first one already earlier, Kenrick Lamar, who do you prefer? I prefer
J Cole. You slit your wristsand I slid you my dish. You
wanted to disco, but jumped onmy dick. Grown man should never bite

(02:18:22):
their tongue unless you eating pussy.The smell like it's a stale plump.
I got my finger on the motherfuckingpistol aiming at a pig. This web
is gonna miss you, Kendrick Lamar. I love high Power. J Cole
actually produced that. Yes, no, no, yes, that's fire.
That collaboration. It would have beenfucking beautiful. They would have made an
album together. It would have soldthe most of all time in history,

(02:18:46):
the greatest album in history, probablythat greatest album solely because of preference.
Yeah, I get that, everybody'spreference. I understand Jacob Kenrick. That's
why this does. That's what Ilike J cole style over Kendricks. I'm
not saying he's better, absolutely,you know, and and I highly understand
that. But Kendrick Lamar is reallywho put me in my bag for rap

(02:19:07):
music. Like when I when Iwhen I wanted to invest in music,
when I was listening to him beforesection eighty, like I was really listening
to like J Rock's music and listeningto like Kendrick Lamar in his features,
I'm like damn sol Kenjack Lamar isreally who made me like, all right,
cool, let me see who elseis underground and stuff like that.

(02:19:28):
Started listening to people when Hopson wasnice back then, before before he got
well not not not before Kendrick Rundthe same time when I was listening to
hops and but I was listening tothe Oh my god, what the hell
was Locksmith? Oh my god,that's really that's Kenjack Lamars who really put

(02:19:48):
me in my bag to listen torat in general. So that's why he
will always recently two thousand, twothousand and eight, No fifty was my
man's before that, that's still hiphop. Yeah, But but you said
lyrical people were just like lyrical underground, Underground said so much more. That's

(02:20:09):
why I started learning about Gino xL and everybody else and the rugg Man
we were talking about earlier. Youwere the first time I listened to the
a Z. I didn't know thatwas at the time. So to beyondes
to bed listened to technique because ofbecause of you're you're bag tracking. You
started from the very recent to thebag because I knew about the ass and
the R I didn't everybody like Isaid, like I said, but yeah,

(02:20:35):
that's that. That didn't start withKendrick, absolutely not, but for
me it did because my mom didn'tallow me to listen to rap music.
I was listening to, like Isaid, you doing the BG is the
freestyle. I wasn't allowed to listento the BT hip Hop hip Hop Awards
or anything like that or either Icouldn't put that on. She didn't put

(02:20:56):
that on. She was that thatgot ignored. I turned it on and
got ignored. I listened to myselfthat I gotta go to work. And
so if you twenty eight Kendrick cameout like two thousand and eight, or
we came up before that. Butyeah, yeah, so you was around
the time when your mother was stilltelling me what definitely sure that was before

(02:21:18):
that was. That was when Iwas. That was when I was twelve,
remember I remember remember you. Yeah, I'm out to listen to that
automatically turn that off right now.That wasn't bought me albums. My mother
bought me two albums, and Ihad to get to get stuff. I
had to I had a press playingrewind on the tape player to hear the

(02:21:39):
jay Z song on the radio torecord it. Yeah, fifty was my
first album I ever purchased. Getrid of Dot. That's one of the
best ever. Yes, sorry,that's what that's that that you touched ter
age better than the Age, betterthan the nas remember that that ship that
were that commented on Facebook that youpost you put four albums. It was

(02:22:01):
the Nos the blueprint fifty and youhad to get rid of one or something
like that. No, no,no, you said which one is the
best album here? And I saidthe fifty cent what was the Nos?
Well, yeah, it doesn't matter. It was not Domins. I think
it was. If it's not Damins, then it's fifty. But if it's
illmatic or still, it's definitely notfifty because you can play those right now.

(02:22:26):
It was written. It was writtenbecause I remember when you told me,
I mean thought of gave me matYeah, ify gave you power.
It is fifty. Still fifty,Yeah, probably fifty. It's still fifty.
Probably fifty I gave alone is insane. I don't think fifty has a
better song than that storytelling wise storytelling, because I gave you powers. Amazing.

(02:22:54):
It's a great song. That ismy top five for sure. So
I compared it to like I comparethe reason why I said fifty was because
his album makes the best. Definitelyprobably you can still bang it now.
It's a little bit crazy, sohard, it's so good. So what
was all right? So the nextone, you guys touched on a little
bit, so I got again.This is all all blitzed little second.

(02:23:16):
I'm trying to do every every episode, even if it's you know, I
got somebody coming up that's a bigStephen kick fan. So I'm gonna do
writers all all blitz you know whoyou got this person Stevie Kan or this
person whatever, So ionea make itup to whoever he's here at the show.
I read, so I read.I haven't read in a while,
So the guy got coming soon.Tom Clincy. People people don't realize it,
but that man, that man couldwrite. There's a lot of books

(02:23:39):
based off his books. I knowthat, but he has so much more
books Inane James Patterson. So Jesus, I can go on for days,
but continue. So to my boytrying to bring into the episode. We're
trying to figure out a date thatworks out best. But it's big stick
Stevin kik Fan. It amazing himselflike so much everything about going through it

(02:24:01):
does. He watches movies, books, movies, everything, He already made
everything. It's everything Steven hands down. And it's awesome to see because I
want to talk about talk to peoplethat have different passions of life. That's
one of his passions. I wantto tal about. I want to learn
about it. So when he comesthrough, we do all all blitz.
I will do writers and I'm notgonna do Stevie King because you know that's
his number one. But that's whatI want to do. So next and

(02:24:24):
if you don't know take it.If you just don't know this, you
can pretend to pick one. We'llsee hold On, We'll see Joiner,
Hopson, Joiner, Joiner both fortheir prime Joiner joinering better. It's the

(02:24:45):
style thing. His storytelling is nice. He got one bad storytelling song that's
better. I have to go backto check on. Not one good storytelling
he he did not give a likehe's his mind really but style. I
really like where Joining is at rightnow. His videos are amazing. Dude,

(02:25:09):
have you heard Happy Birthday? Yes? That happy? No? No?
That was that was like? Wasthat was like? That was like
as deep as the I'm not racistabout you're talking about Joiner right, yeah,

(02:25:30):
yeah, when the whole video wasfired. Dude, you had to
watch the video. Don't watch theracist one. There's there's not many storytellers
better than joining period. I Iagree. Period. It was the first
one he ever came out with RossYeah, yeah, yeah, that was
that was that replay he came outwith the Then he came out with I'm

(02:25:52):
Not Racist after. Yes, itwas the way after, but yeah he
did come dude. But Happy Birthdayand watch that fucking video, Dude,
that ship was crazy. I mighthave his homeboy in the video is the
same dude that plays the snitch inPower. I was so angry that whole
song, hoping the snitch. Buthe's an actual good R and B artist.

(02:26:15):
That's grimy. But I've seen therecent one where his boys aswer for
money. Yes, what song isthat? That's Happy Birthday? Is it?
Yeah? Yeah? Where his boysin the video is that? You
know, I know you're doing goodwhatever, but I need this money for
this business. I'm trying to runor whatever. He's asking the money for
it. It's different. It's thiswas new. It's off his new album.

(02:26:39):
Oh no. He starts, hestarts being friendly and then it switches
immediately. Yeah, yeah, that'sthe same one. What's the name of
the song? I don't remember.That's the latest one I saw. Yeah,
but happy Birthdays. Happy Birthday wasa single, it wasn't off of
his album. I don't remember thatone, So I still got a couple

(02:27:03):
more So I want to say yougot away from ye make it out,
so I gotta be out now.It's a forty minute drive. Brody or
Crody, No bros, Brody,I ain't Canadian. Yeah, we gotta
make a part two to this becausewe didn't really talk. We talked about

(02:27:24):
it, but I want I wantto break down euphoria because I'm not saying
you don't understand it, but likeyou said, you don't really follow these
dudes. I don't follow the guyand a lot of a lot of the
punchlines that the double time just wentover my head. You have to it's
kind of impossible to know every singlething that someone says in a rap song.

(02:27:46):
Yeah, but you don't even youyou don't even know the basic ship
because you don't follow. Remember whenyou was like, oh, I don't
like how he's being so soft withit before the Yeah, exactly to hear
this song, I want to hearsome grimy ship like I want to hear
like want some hard hitting stuff.That's that's that's this song to me.

(02:28:07):
But that's coming from all the stuffI listen to growing up. You got
no vacilline, the bitch and youstick around knockout. That first beat was
a Teddy Pentogram Yes, I heardabout that. Yeah, and then supposed

(02:28:30):
that he did that because Drake doesn'tknow who the hell Teddy Pograss is,
which is hilarious as well. I'msure. I'm sure he does. Teddy
Pentagrams got into a car accident andthat's him in a wheelchair. See,
that's hilarious. That's something I don'teven think of, but yeah, wheelchair

(02:28:54):
Jimmy Teddy and the wheelchair. It'shilarious. So that he picked that sample,
yes, because also when you breakit, when you break it down
like that, it's amazing. Whenyou listen to it the first time going
through, you like, all right, you're not gonna catch it. There
was a lot I had. Ididn't know some but like the crown Ship,

(02:29:15):
I've been no back. I thoughtit was funny. I was like,
yo, that's his cat's name.But again it goes you're going you're
only gonna know as much as youfollow, as much as you put it
to it. Teddy Pentagras also covereda song for Larry Graham, which was
Kendrick's I mean Drake's uncle. Hehe his father and his uncle was in

(02:29:41):
the music business. His great hisgrandfather was also in the music business.
So that line where he was likewhen he was like, oh, you're
trying to be junior, that waslike a fucking triple of tandra because that's
a reference to you're trying to belike Wayne, Wayne his junior to who
berman you get me? But thenalso his father, what was his father's

(02:30:07):
name is Dennis, Yeah, DennisGraham. Yeah, his uncle name was
Larry. Dennis was his father.He also had a music career, but
it was successful. The one thatwas successful was Larry. Larry was referred
to junior because he took his nameafter his grandfather. So he said,
you're trying to be junior because he'snot trying to be his father, he's

(02:30:31):
trying to be a successful career.So you see how deep that shit goes.
No one knows that off Rent like, but that's that's the ship.
You dive into it on purpose.Of course, he's doing his research before
these songs dropped. But you haveto shout to Joe trying to say the
same thing. You have to doyour research. People started people started talking

(02:30:52):
about him because they said that hemixed up the the Joe. Haley Austin
heard that ship. I heard itwhen he was going Joe as. I
know who he was immediately because hewas he got it was he I used
to see funny like parody skits.He's the dude that does the TV preaching.

(02:31:13):
He was he wasn't. He gotinto into trouble because he was using
AI to do some of his becausehe's also the douche that denied a lot
of people access to his church duringthe flood area. So that's why I
know who he was before that personbefore. So he was using AI to

(02:31:33):
create some of his preachers. Hegot in trouble for them, right,
Haley. Joel met is the kidwho paid who played the kid in six
is sixth cents. So there area lot of people is like I started
seeing them. This ship came outa couple of days after. People was

(02:31:54):
like, oh he your your youryour goat. Kendrick made mix up.
He's mixing up these news names.He didn't mix up these names. He
did. He was because that kidsaid I see dead people. He's no,
no, this was a lie.He said, oh am I battling
ghost or a I mm hm.And nigga he said nigga feeling like Joe

(02:32:18):
hal Austin. There's nobody named JoeHail Austin. The names combined name because
he's trying to say that's how that'show mixed up Kendrick is. I mean
Drake, that's how mixed up heis. That he thinks he's a mix
of these two. So it wasan ai that ghost writing. And then

(02:32:39):
he said that in my sixth sensesis telling me to offer. So people
thought people took that as a mixup, like, oh he just mixed
up and that was fire too.No, he did that on purpose,
because fire, when you break itdown, research into it. He did
that purpose because he's saying that Drakemixed up the line mixed up. The
problem is the problem of Drake's fansthat they don't want the music to make

(02:33:01):
him think, because that's that's that'sa lot of the mainstream to It's simpler,
all right, to get back toit before we go out. We
got about, you know, twentyminutes before to go maybe before that,
so real quick, all right,most deaf, Common, most death,
that's wild. That's wild. Mostdeath I got comment on that. I

(02:33:24):
got Common, got one of thebest distracts of all times, the whole
group. But the reason the reasonI say most death is because I listened
to most death. More that Ilistened to. Common said most most rapid
Spanish. I don't care about that. He has one of my favorite verses
in Spanish, which is good,but still I got I got Common in

(02:33:46):
that one. That's just me.Bust the Ryans little way Bust rhymes people.
You said that people quick. Peopleare hating for that, but I
listened. Bust Rhymes is who Igrew up on and idolizing during his times
in a tribe colde Quest. Yeah, that was just like way before you

(02:34:07):
started listening to hip hop. Sobefore before that was like ninety two.
But that's what I wasn't listening to, Young Wayne. I was listening to
Bust. I know what you're saying. I had to say Buster all right
over, Little Wayne, I figureyou guys were a younger crowd, you
would say, little Wayne, that'swho I prefer. Better lyricists. I'm

(02:34:28):
choosing Wayne. I'm definitely not evenlyricist. I'm choosing a buster Buster Rhymes,
slept On Man. He's good,absolutely for lyricism, to created cloud
on on on camera and stuff likethat. His stuff is really good,
bus bust, His whole everything isis great for music, all right,
something something more to gerall Era.I kind of figured, who do you

(02:34:54):
guys go? But Davies. Davies, I got some good songs that I
heard. I don't even like him, Like, I'm not a big fan
of I'm not a big fan ofDavid Dude. Probably I'm probably one of
the nine thousand people that And what'sthat? Even an album? Is it?

(02:35:16):
That was? All right? Ilike a better camera? What what
you was gonna say this? It'snot about that. We're gonna keep going.
Jesus Christ, this guy's high.Lloyd Banks Joelotes, Oh you're smoking,
Michael, you're smoking? Now?Rap circles around Banks and I like

(02:35:37):
me, No, I'm not.I'm not saying that. The reason I
chose Joelotes is because also I listenedto him more and Lloyd's Banks voice really
bothers me, doesn't really, Ihate it that I don't. That is
being me being biased, but that'smy choice for this one. I think

(02:35:58):
joelos has always been He's never wild. I don't know one name Banks mixtapes,
albums, not one Hunger for Morethat was like great, I don't.
I don't even like like not eventhat. The Cold Corner one and
two, I don't know. Ido know the Cold Corner a lot that

(02:36:22):
the co corners are fire. Stillthink Joel rap circles around them and one
on one people. I think Joelbe weird, no weird, how wow
weird? How it's amazing. Seetheir their voices are the same. I
both just like both their voices.But I've listening I can't stand his voice.

(02:36:46):
That ship pisces me off every song. It doesn't matter about their voice
for me, because for a lotof people, that's what they like.
That, that's that's what That's whatit comes down to. I listened to
a couple of Danny Brownny Brown todo. He's tall brown, you don't
know who most his voice is annoying, he has the most annoying, but

(02:37:11):
he's tough. So I'm not evengonna say that. I just never.
I always thought Joe never, henever. He never made me put my
hand over my like my mouth,like all right, keep it going.
Oh yeah, I'm the tour.So wait, he didn't even say that.

(02:37:33):
That was Royce. Alright, that'swhat that's what it's actually the tour.
So because he was baby was hewas was his He said, Joel
is the body something something something Iforget the body crooked was the always was

(02:37:56):
terrible. It was it was kindof trash, but that albums, but
it wasn't. It wasn't. SoJoe was the head exactly. Joe Budden
is nice. Just saying Joe BuddenRoyce fight then Joe Budden Joe and I'm
gonna go with my man. I'mgonna explain, my man, let me

(02:38:18):
explain real quick. So my manSemi made a great point one day in
a group chat, Joe Joe Buddenis the only finish up. Joe Budden
is the only one that went togo spit a freestyle in front of some
of the best artists of that timeand best people lyrically of that time,

(02:38:39):
and spent the best verse in thatwhole area, the whole, the whole,
the whole, proof of this.Yes, it's all, it's all.
It's all on radio Joe Budden withwho every I got you after,
I'm trying to get content after itincluded free. Uh, it included free,
free or like free with freeway,freeways trash just like coast Face.

(02:39:05):
Oh my god, Okay, inthis conversation, it's just my opinion.
I like those face. You knowit's funny. I don't like freeway,
don't I was, okay, waiton my way to the barshop, I
put on freeway. Yes, whybecause he says I was listening to rock
and fellow billionaires. You can hearlike feeling in the air maybe and there's

(02:39:28):
a lot of two words. Yo, I'm a hip hop heady side.
I don't listen to it. SometimesI listen to you called the trash.
You called freeway trash on Black Robbecause I'm like black that first album was
done. I like Black Rods firstalbum. Yeah, play Black Rob,
like I just be random. That'sfine. So today, but I never

(02:39:50):
in my life welcome and like youknow, I'm about a blast of freeway
today. Never in my life.He's nice. Actually, oh my god,
yes he was freeway lyrically. Howmany freestyle okay, how many people
freestyling was better than freeway? Freetshut him down? That one freestyle just
shut him down. I got pissedon a beat. Put on a beat,

(02:40:13):
yeah, I call back. Thenyou know you can't put the beat
on. Put the beat of yes, yeah, but who's the better who's
a better freestyle on Cassidy back?Then nobody? Okay, then we're talking
about talking about yeah exactly, he'sdoing better raps. Now he's trashing that

(02:40:35):
he's garbage. I don't know howmany times he has to tell us that,
you know, make a make arelation to like flower seeds or some
he's married his gun. Like,that's annoying, bro, I think of
something else. I like, he'sone of my favorite I like not as
a bad rapper, alight. Solast one before we signed off, this

(02:40:56):
is more of a funny one,I thought last second, actually, wait,
I'll give you one regular one andthen the last one is more of
a funny one. So I wasas to James, but since you guys,
you guys should be old enough forthis ludicris t, I should be
you guys are old enough for thisfor the genre. For these two guys,

(02:41:16):
that's tough. I've always compared.I've always compared those two. This
is one of my favorite comparisons todo for people to see, absolutely very
very I Gotta and t I Ihas some good albums, man, t
I made better music. No,no, na no. Luda has so

(02:41:41):
many hits bro so t I.He does, but not better than l
he has. He has more hitsthan Luda literally, no, yes,
no, look it up. Hedoes. We could he does have more
hits. He probably does. Hedefinitely has more hits than Ludicris. T
I, T I P has morehits than Luda. Chris, that's the

(02:42:03):
same. I love that album,by the way, that was so good.
But I'm still going to louden Butdamn, we'll bring it up in
another one another. Damn, Iwas gonna says. Ryme paved bust Rhyme
weirdness paved a lot of way fora lot of people. Nick nick rhyme

(02:42:26):
with the videos to even j coolthe k O D album ko D That
album A t M was straight.I see that video was all that was
alright. That's one. The nightbefore we signed off work, and I
got a basketball game in the morning, bright early it Diddy versus pre Jamada

(02:42:50):
Pre. I couldn't say it right, did he Jermada Pri. It's more
of a funny one, but justmusic wise, Diddy jermadd free music wise,
Damn, let's not take the personallives into effect. So so it
was crazy crazy. They had thousandsof hits. Arrow was nuts, thousands

(02:43:11):
of hit Yeah, that Earrow wasnuts. Yeah, No, I can't
get a shot. I mean Ican't. I can't when I say that.
I never liked he. I neverlike a wild I never did never,
I never loved he was he was. He was the Calend before Yea,

(02:43:35):
he was Calid before Calid playing me. Yeah, here's annoying. His
first album is It's on the Wallback there we do albums? Are we
doing? Just in general? Ingeneral? His first album has so many
guest features on there were so goodyou gotta listen to it. Yeah.

(02:43:56):
Yeah, he's not rapping mostly he'sdripping on some of them. But Jay
on the album is nas Seagull,He had Shine Redman Buster, se Lo
Green, I believe, I believewas in that with the Joe Budden was
there too, was nice too,was definitely nice. Oh yeah, take
my shot because I can't choose betweenthe two because so much R and B

(02:44:20):
music, just just the top two, the top three. Actually now it's
Cannabis. He produced so much Rand B music that I still listen to
on a regular day. Basis.That's insane. That was That was for
the clicks. I'm just saying becauseno, no, no, nont lie

(02:44:43):
it was. It was ara.It was a trash moment. But during
that time, it was all aboutthe clicks. If you go to Yahoo,
you go to Google, the mostpopular name searched up during that time
was cannabis. During those that thatone month, two month run, he
was the most person today. Whynot, That's how you make money,
bro. He wasn't worried about money. He compete, He compete disaster any

(02:45:07):
day of the week with anybody.Well he got to prove doing that with
with anybody, anybody in the underground. They don't care about the money,
they care about the quality. Sothat is book dropped the album. Nobody's
paying attention to what people not payingattention to only the hip hop heads.
And I'm gonna listen to because Iam you know, I'm talking about and

(02:45:28):
I know I listen to the album, but he said, nobody's paying attend
to that album. Now he isthere, he is, He's getting people.
People brought him up. Even onthe Joe Butten podcast, he was
brought up. Joe Budd's a hiphop head that don't count. Yes,
but but but he's putting people on. That's what I'm saying, regular people.
But he's putting people on. He'sgetting publicity for that album because people
are listening, because hip hop headsare hip hop heads with fame are putting

(02:45:54):
it on normal Joe Button, normalpeople. But guys just like retired somewhere
just in the world right now.It is Yeah, I pressonally don't like
it, but I like drink trancebetter. That's my SHI with the music.

(02:46:16):
He Bro, Hebro stuff like heBro. That's who. That's who
used to do it with Joe butright, that's that's Tori. That's uh
Rory, yes Bro and Rory.Yeah, okay, okay, they used
to do it with Joe, butsome beef happened. Joe Bud is a
cocky individual, let's say, nota bit. He don't care though he's
the one that messed up the slaughterHouse, hands down. Probably. They
could still be out making music rightnow. Probably, And when he has

(02:46:39):
one of the most interesting beefs actuallyin general, him versus the game.
The game beat him. I don'tknow that you heard that beef. No
Logic. Joe was like, yo, Logic is one of the worst.
I did see that, and Logicgot on live and he was like he

(02:47:01):
started reading that Joe lyrics like pump, pump pump, that's awesome, that's
hilarious. So he started reading ina very white, articulate voice, started
reading his lyrics. He was like, yeah, that's so funny. I

(02:47:22):
like Logic now a little bit morefor that. I like logic. But
this stoff listening to him because hewas a culture vulture. I don't think
he is man. He's just thinkingabout his life. His life is all
about depression and he's but he's buthe's he's he's he's a cool coachure.
Now what pissed me off about Logicis what ever, ever since he making
culture vultures, ever since he starteddefending that he ain't black. When he

(02:47:43):
started doing that, that's kind ofannoyed me. That so he's half blacky
because people. Yeah, I knowhe is half black. He has a
whole podcast with his dad. Yeah, logic, yeah what I'm saying,
But but I never heard anything.It was years ago because people were people
like, you need to stop saying, you need to stop talking like that

(02:48:03):
and like that, and that's that'sstill the whole thing ever since. And
when he started doing that is music, when it started going downhill for me.
As I like logic, he's good. I think as I kept listening
to to to Logic, he startedsounding more and more like other people.

(02:48:24):
Yeah, so it was like,so okay, cool, So today he
sounded like he's sounding like Kendrick.Then the next track he sounded like fucking
Nicki Minaj literally doing Nicki minag ship. Really I didn't. I didn't hear
that. I gotta check it out. And so I was like, he's
doing this every fucking sounding like Drake. Now like he he literally made a

(02:48:48):
song he's like quoting like money trees. You never heard that. I never
listened to Logic and that like Kendrick. Yeah, I have to check that
out. I personally don't like that. That's what actually made me stop listening
to Drake because like, dude,you have your own voice. But again

(02:49:13):
logic, he doesn't pick a fightwith people. That's why he doesn't get
hit that hard threat. You know, But I bet it will come out
soon. It came out already,know if he's gonna be for somebody to
come out for sure, you're retiredready, Yeah, he said he's done

(02:49:35):
music all right. Everybody were outof here Hefty podcast. Thank you to
my guests James who left earlier.Mike, appreciate you coming through. Hey,
j always love your yours. Allright here. We're out of here
later, y'all. You hear mein my

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